Did Somebody Say ‘Registration?’

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Here’s a midday open thread, with open registration for a limited time. The ‘Register’ link is at the top of the left sidebar.

Read all the rules before you register, and commit them to memory. The short version:

  • Don’t register with a proxy.
  • Don’t register with a throwaway email address.
  • Don’t register more than one account at a time.
  • Don’t be a jerk.
  • Don’t be a troll.
  • Don’t be a sock puppet. Stinky Beaumont hates sock puppets. He will find you.
  • If you’re registering just to post a dramatic “goodbye cruel world” comment full of insults and drool, don’t waste your time. Nobody’s going to read it. It will be immediately deleted and your account will be blocked.
  • Do play nice.

And then everything will be groovy.

UPDATE at 10/18/09 4:25:07 pm:

Now closed, but I may reopen in a few minutes.

UPDATE at 10/18/09 5:34:08 pm:

Registration has reopened, again for a limited time.

UPDATE at 10/18/09 6:00:31 pm:

And that’s it for tonight, with nearly 60 registered newbies, some of whom, of course, were sock puppets. (They never stop trying.)

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460 comments
1 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:04:36pm

Yes, someone did say "registration". I think it was me. Welcome Hatchlings!

2 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:07:23pm

Welcome new Lizards! Play nice and jump right in.

3 swamprat  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:07:26pm

Welcome to the curious, the aspiring, the slumming, the stalking, the right, left, center, bored, happy and everyone else.

4 freetoken  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:07:52pm

A registration thread immediately after a Limbaugh thread... any takers on when the first one pops up?

5 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:08:45pm

re: #4 freetoken

A registration thread immediately after a Limbaugh thread... any takers on when the first one pops up?

I bet on number 57 for the first flounce.

6 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:15:44pm

15 newbies and 3 socks already.

7 Bear  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:17:30pm

Welcome. Please play nice. Hope that you new ones have a great time.

8 Daniel Ballard  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:18:28pm

re: #5 Dark_Falcon

Are you starting a flounce pool? LOL

9 Bael  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:18:49pm

Wow, I'm glad I finally got to register. I've been waiting a long time. :)

10 Daniel Ballard  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:19:10pm

re: #9 Bael

Welcome!

11 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:19:29pm

re: #6 Charles

15 newbies and 3 socks already.

There'll be more socks. The stalkers have a thread up attacjing you by saying you're begging for change (despite the fact that you put paid to that rumor quite handily). They're liable to try to slip in right now to attack you. Losers.

12 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:19:45pm

re: #9 Bael

Wow, I'm glad I finally got to register. I've been waiting a long time. :)

Glad to have you on the team.

13 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:19:53pm

Welcome to the new lizards

14 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:20:07pm

re: #12 Dark_Falcon

Glad to have you on the team.

Time will tell!!

/

15 ryannon  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:21:23pm

Here a sock, there a sock...worn-out, smelly old socks. Full of holes and not worth mending...

16 austin_blue  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:21:28pm

re: #9 Bael

Wow, I'm glad I finally got to register. I've been waiting a long time. :)

Welcome! Tell us something about yourself in your profile (saves *lots* of repetition). Click my nic. Doesn't have to definitive.

17 Bagua  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:21:28pm

re: #13 PhillyPretzel

Welcome to the new lizards

Youtube Video
18 XopXproxyX  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:21:57pm

Wow I can't believe I just joined LGF. This time last year it would have been unimaginable, but it has become one I now often read.

19 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:22:41pm

re: #17 Bagua

Sorry. I do not click on any links.

20 Bael  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:22:55pm

re: #10 Rightwingconspirator

Thank you. :D

re: #12 Dark_Falcon

Thank you, as well. I'm a long-time reader. Glad to finally be here.

re: #14 sattv4u2

I'm not here to troll or act like a doofus, don't worry.

21 freetoken  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:23:42pm

I see that Instapundit is still pimping for the AGW deniers. In a link to a site, in reference to current hurricane Rick, Reynolds links to a blog of a guy who is intent that the "real" scientists (over at, ahem, American Thinker) have shown that CO2 cannot be the cause for the warming of the last century.

Of all the places to which to link on Hurrican Rick (say, the NHC, or weatherunderground.com), Reynolds picks a no-body AGW-denier.

My question: How can Reynolds actually teach law at a university and not have his peers question the honesty of Prof. Reynolds? How can the students take his class and believe they will be told the truth?

22 ryannon  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:24:37pm

re: #18 XopXproxyX

Wow I can't believe I just joined LGF. This time last year it would have been unimaginable, but it has become one I now often read.

Didn't you know how to read last year?

/

Ok, welcome to LGF.

It can be a tough crowd.

23 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:24:58pm

re: #13 PhillyPretzel

Welcome to the new lizards

16 posts in 2 1/2 years ,, YOU still have eggshell on you!

24 jaunte  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:25:32pm

re: #19 PhillyPretzel

Sorry. I do not click on any links.

That would make the internets difficult.

25 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:25:51pm

>re: #20 Bael

Thank you. :D

re: #12 Dark_Falcon

Thank you, as well. I'm a long-time reader. Glad to finally be here.

re: #14 sattv4u2

I'm not here to troll or act like a doofus, don't worry.

Thanks ,,, I don't need the competition!

26 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:26:01pm

re: #18 XopXproxyX

Wow I can't believe I just joined LGF. This time last year it would have been unimaginable, but it has become one I now often read.

Why?

27 prairiefire  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:26:13pm

re: #13 PhillyPretzel

Thanks! I registered about a week ago, but thought I would introduce myself. Mid-Western stay at home mom, Christian, liberal, striving for my own fiscal conservatism. I appreciate the fascinating quality of mental soup around here. Charles, you do a great job of editing and keeping the site a reflection of your own convictions. Thanks for an interesting playground!

28 Daniel Ballard  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:27:37pm

re: #25 sattv4u2

Ha! I seen your Karma... BTW When I first registered there was no 50 comment rule, and I thought Karma was anonymous!

29 freetoken  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:27:42pm

BTW, that blog to which Reynolds link is also promoting Secession!

He does not say the forbidden word “secession,” but that is what he means. Will it come to that? Perhaps. The responsible states — mostly run by Republicans — cannot afford to remain affiliated with the irresponsible ones much longer.


BTW, the blog isn't even archived by Google... or else I would have posted the cache link...

This is now to where Glen Reynolds is linking. The same Reynolds who is featured at PJM, and who teaches law at a university.

30 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:27:58pm

re: #23 sattv4u2

Yes. But isn't considered good manners to welcome someone to the "club."

31 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:29:06pm

I may start requiring people who register to post at least one comment immediately after registering to introduce themselves. If they don't post a comment within an hour, their account would be blocked.

Haven't decided on this for sure yet.

32 BARACK THE VOTE  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:30:44pm

re: #26 MandyManners

Why?

This time last year we were in the final runup to the election. There was a level of delusion on most right and right leaning blogs that was hard to watch. Also a lot of unhappiness from those who weren't deluded.

33 reine.de.tout  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:30:50pm

re: #31 Charles

I may start requiring people who register to post at least one comment immediately after registering to introduce themselves. If they don't post a comment within an hour, their account would be blocked.

Haven't decided on this for sure yet.

I like it as an ice-breaker, if nothing else. Shar likes to ask "What drew you to LGF?".

34 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:31:21pm

re: #21 freetoken


My question: How can Reynolds actually teach law at a university and not have his peers question the honesty of Prof. Reynolds? How can the students take his class and believe they will be told the truth?


He lost me a few months ago when he posted a link saying that the TARP (or stimulus) was unconstitutional. The link went to some crappy wordpress blog consisting of 2 paragraphs (maybe 8 sentences) simply making the blanket claim that it was unconstitutional. I wrote him an email asking about the link and mentioned that the Supreme Court would have to rule to make it unconstitutional. He never answered or amended his post. He should have known the legal issues involved to know it was BS. That's when it hit me that he's not being honest anymore. Maybe he never was.

35 jaunte  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:32:30pm

re: #31 Charles

I think it's a good idea, but maybe expand the time a little.

36 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:32:31pm

re: #27 prairiefire

great job of editing and keeping the site a reflection of your own convictions

I wouldn't say he goes that far. But he does a great job of deleting teh bad.

37 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:32:48pm

re: #35 jaunte

I think it's a good idea, but maybe expand the time a little.

Concur.

38 thecommodore  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:33:22pm

Glad to be a part of your community, Charles. We probably don't agree on much, but I admire your integrity and tenacity in exposing the far, far right.

Keep up the good work, and I look forward to a lively time here.

39 reine.de.tout  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:33:27pm

re: #37 Dark_Falcon

Concur.

haha!
Where's the "Quite" before that "Concur"?

40 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:33:39pm

Register
FLOUNCE!
WHACK
Register
FLOUNCE!
WHACK!

41 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:33:40pm

re: #31 Charles

I may start requiring people who register to post at least one comment immediately after registering to introduce themselves. If they don't post a comment within an hour, their account would be blocked.

Haven't decided on this for sure yet.

I don't see the good

A sock will just post an innocuous "hello' to ghet around it only to be revealed as a troll later

A potential good Lizard may only have caught the open reg and had time to just register with no time to post now, planning on coming on their next available free time and you would have blocked them

Just MHO

42 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:33:52pm

re: #39 reine.de.tout

haha!
Where's the "Quite" before that "Concur"?

BULLY!

43 BARACK THE VOTE  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:34:22pm

re: #34 Killgore Trout

He lost me a few months ago when he posted a link saying that the TARP (or stimulus) was unconstitutional. The link went to some crappy wordpress blog consisting of 2 paragraphs (maybe 8 sentences) simply making the blanket claim that it was unconstitutional. I wrote him an email asking about the link and mentioned that the Supreme Court would have to rule to make it unconstitutional. He never answered or amended his post. He should have known the legal issues involved to know it was BS. That's when it hit me that he's not being honest anymore. Maybe he never was.

Personally, I'd vote in the 'never was' column-- or he was a very, very long time ago. Sad.

re: #33 reine.de.tout

I like it as an ice-breaker, if nothing else. Shar likes to ask "What drew you to LGF?".

I think that's nice. Maybe more than an hour window to say hi would be good though-- at least during the week, when people are possibly posting from work and might not have the time to say hi right away. Maybe a three hour window?

44 Daniel Ballard  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:34:26pm

re: #40 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That really needs an MP3

45 Soundboard Fez  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:34:44pm

New hatchling here, I squeaked in just in time! I'm on the blackberry so I will spare any long intro for the moment ...

46 Bagua  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:35:21pm

re: #38 thecommodore

Glad to be a part of your community, Charles. We probably don't agree on much, but I admire your integrity and tenacity in exposing the far, far right.

Keep up the good work, and I look forward to a lively time here.

Well that's an interesting way to say hello.

47 reine.de.tout  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:35:28pm

re: #9 Bael

re: #18 XopXproxyX

re: #27 prairiefire

re: #38 thecommodore

Welcome newbies!
(sorry if I missed anyone)

48 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:35:54pm

re: #39 reine.de.tout

haha!
Where's the "Quite" before that "Concur"?

That's a stronger form of agreement. I don't use it all the time.

49 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:35:59pm

re: #45 Soundboard Fez

Nice hat.

50 thecommodore  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:36:04pm

re: #46 Bagua

Just saying that I lean left.

51 albusteve  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:36:25pm

re: #32 iceweasel

This time last year we were in the final runup to the election. There was a level of delusion on most right and right leaning blogs that was hard to watch. Also a lot of unhappiness from those who weren't deluded.

what delusion here at LGF are you alluding to?...I don't recall

52 freetoken  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:36:29pm

BTW, Out of all the bloggers of disrepute... from the vile (RSM, the VDARE crowd, etc.) to the worthless (AP, most of Townhall, etc.), none of them have had the success of Glen Reynolds has had.

Reynolds has an air of acceptability; he has Ann Althouse and Meagan McCardle fill in for him, for example.

Yet Reynolds has turned into the biggest backer of the Tea Parties, the anti-science/anti-knowledge crowd, the secessionists, etc.

I think it is past time for people to start holding Reynolds accountable.

53 XopXproxyX  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:36:31pm

re: #26 MandyManners

I have kept up with the site for a while now, and the internal/external politics of it.
You have to admit, the direction has changed, significantly.
But hey we both like it right, otherwise we wouldn't be on here now.

54 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:37:13pm

re: #38 thecommodore

Glad to be a part of your community, Charles. We probably don't agree on much, but I admire your integrity and tenacity in exposing the far, far right.

(psst) far, far left have their asses kicked here too. Just so you know.

55 Bagua  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:37:14pm

re: #50 thecommodore

Just saying that I lean left.

Sounds unstable.

56 Randall Gross  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:38:02pm

re: #45 Soundboard Fez

New hatchling here, I squeaked in just in time! I'm on the blackberry so I will spare any long intro for the moment ...

Welcome to you and all the new hatchlings.

/who knew that the Shriners have roadies? Why didn't someone fill me in on this?

57 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:38:07pm

re: #55 Bagua

Ilene? Irene?

58 XopXproxyX  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:38:08pm

re: #47 reine.de.tout

Thanks!

59 thecommodore  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:38:16pm

re: #54 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I've seen and applaud that. But there aren't many conservatives willing to out the freaks on their side. That's what I'm saying.

60 thecommodore  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:38:45pm

re: #55 Bagua

Stable is as stable does... :)

61 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:39:03pm

re: #59 thecommodore

Yeah, I got that on the re-read.

You name yourself after the computer or the character on Popeye?

62 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:39:29pm

re: #60 thecommodore

Stable is as stable does... :)

Run, Forrest, Run! ;)

63 suchislife  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:39:36pm

Wow, I just saw a really weird post by some guy with 15 comments and a karma of -107 on the dead oath keepers threat. But, I guess karma doesn't equal troll, considering space weasel.

64 austin_blue  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:39:53pm

re: #56 Thanos

Welcome to you and all the new hatchlings.

/who knew that the Shriners have roadies? Why didn't someone fill me in on this?

Those are very small sound systems so they can fit in the tiny cars...

65 thecommodore  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:40:01pm

re: #61 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Yeah, I got that on the re-read.

You name yourself after the computer or the character on Popeye?


Actually Commodore Perry, and actually that was a nickname a buddy of mine gave me years ago.

66 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:40:25pm

re: #44 Rightwingconspirator

Sounds like a chain gang.

67 Bagua  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:40:31pm

re: #53 XopXproxyX

[...]You have to admit, the direction has changed, significantly.
But hey we both like it right, otherwise we wouldn't be on here now. [...]

That observation is generally made in goodbye posts, not hello.

68 BARACK THE VOTE  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:41:37pm

re: #51 albusteve

what delusion here at LGF are you alluding to?...I don't recall

I quit reading the comments at LGF almost entirely between Sept 2008 and Nov 2008, although not the blog. A lot of people thought McCain had more of a shot than he did. A lot of people were in denial about Palin. The mood was ugly at times. Not merely at LGF but pretty much all over the right. And it didn't make me happy to read people who were so unhappy, frankly.

69 Ben G. Hazi  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:41:42pm

re: #27 prairiefire

Make no mistake, this is not a an echo chamber for us to validate Charles' point-of-view...discussions and debate (real debate) are welcome here.

70 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:42:18pm

re: #45 Soundboard Fez

New hatchling here, I squeaked in just in time! I'm on the blackberry so I will spare any long intro for the moment ...

Glad to have an RnF fan here! I loved Ron's take on Glenn Beck on Thursday's show. I've tried to turn on the folks here to Donnie Dunphy and nobody's digging him yet.

71 avanti  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:42:23pm

re: #26 MandyManners

Why?

I hesitated myself back in November, but more than few rational posters sucked me in, and I'm glad they did.

72 reine.de.tout  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:42:31pm

re: #63 suchislife

Were you referring to Iceweasel?
Why be insulting?

73 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:42:42pm

re: #31 Charles

I may start requiring people who register to post at least one comment immediately after registering to introduce themselves. If they don't post a comment within an hour, their account would be blocked.

Haven't decided on this for sure yet.

I'd give them 30 days to post before blockage.

74 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:42:45pm

re: #68 iceweasel

I was flippin' miserable, I can tell you.

75 suchislife  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:43:19pm

re: #63 suchislife

and now I googled it and it's a quote. stupid to mention it.

76 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:43:32pm

re: #72 reine.de.tout

Were you referring to Iceweasel?
Why be insulting?

I think they meant space jesus, who has horrible karma.

77 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:43:48pm

re: #72 reine.de.tout

Were you referring to Iceweasel?
Why be insulting?

Maybe she was referring to Spacejesus.

78 XopXproxyX  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:44:27pm

re: #67 Bagua

Lol, I have noticed that too! Well if the flouncers can't appreciate this site then too bad for them. Me on the other hand, I'm looking to stick around for awhile. It's pretty neat here on the inside.

79 prairiefire  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:44:48pm

re: #69 talon_262

Good, that keeps things interesting.

80 freetoken  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:45:02pm

re: #77 Alouette

Maybe she was referring to Spacejesus.

What if SpaceJesus and Iceweasel mated...?

81 albusteve  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:45:07pm

re: #68 iceweasel

I quit reading the comments at LGF almost entirely between Sept 2008 and Nov 2008, although not the blog. A lot of people thought McCain had more of a shot than he did. A lot of people were in denial about Palin. The mood was ugly at times. Not merely at LGF but pretty much all over the right. And it didn't make me happy to read people who were so unhappy, frankly.

as for me, the closer it got to election time, by Aug/Sept, I'd given up on McCain but I didn't see Palin as the deal breaker..I thought the whole summer run up was alot of fun

82 ryannon  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:45:20pm

re: #76 rwdflynavy

I think they meant space jesus, who has horrible karma.

LEAVE SPACE JESUS ALONE!

83 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:45:27pm

re: #78 XopXproxyX

It's pretty neat here on the inside.

Nice of you to say. Get me a beer.

84 avanti  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:45:41pm

re: #38 thecommodore

Glad to be a part of your community, Charles. We probably don't agree on much, but I admire your integrity and tenacity in exposing the far, far right.

Keep up the good work, and I look forward to a lively time here.

Lively it will be, but the good news is polite decent is welcome here and both side need the conversation.

85 suchislife  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:45:43pm

re: #72 reine.de.tout

what? Oh no! I meant space jesus. who I guess has bad karma, but I would not consider him a troll at all. I must have had ice weasel on my mind.

86 reine.de.tout  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:45:58pm

re: #76 rwdflynavy

I think they meant space jesus, who has horrible karma.

re: #77 Alouette

Maybe she was referring to Spacejesus.

mebbe so.
Ah, YES.
re: #85 suchislife

what? Oh no! I meant space jesus. who I guess has bad karma, but I would not consider him a troll at all. I must have had ice weasel on my mind.

87 albusteve  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:46:24pm

re: #71 avanti

I hesitated myself back in November, but more than few rational posters sucked me in, and I'm glad they did.

I had nothing to do with it, I'm innocent

88 austin_blue  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:46:42pm

re: #80 freetoken

What if SpaceJesus and Iceweasel mated...?

Frozen Messiah?

89 Ojoe  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:46:45pm

re: #31 Charles

Part of the registration could be composing a first comment & when your registration goes through, lo and behold, your first comment appears right then.

That would be cool I think.

90 BARACK THE VOTE  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:46:51pm

re: #85 suchislife

what? Oh no! I meant space jesus. who I guess has bad karma, but I would not consider him a troll at all. I must have had ice weasel on my mind.

Who doesn't? ///

91 The Yankee  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:46:59pm

re: #6 Charles

Is there any place on this site one can go to learn the slang. like Sock puppets and moonbats...lol

92 Daniel Ballard  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:47:03pm

re: #85 suchislife

Thats a puzzle, does Space Jesus have the record for a negative number? Space Jesus are you on this thread?

93 The Curmudgeon  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:47:50pm

Just wait 'til you newbies get to see what happens in all those "members only" threads. Awesome!

94 Achilles Tang  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:47:52pm

re: #31 Charles

I may start requiring people who register to post at least one comment immediately after registering to introduce themselves. If they don't post a comment within an hour, their account would be blocked.

Haven't decided on this for sure yet.

And they must not include the word "first".

Evening all.

95 freetoken  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:47:55pm

re: #88 austin_blue

When I saw "space weasel", it was the first thing that crossed my mind.

96 fizzlogic  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:47:57pm

Charles,

If a person asked you close an account years ago, will you reopen the account for sock puppet use? :)

Or can an account be rolled into a previous account?

97 Gus  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:48:06pm

re: #71 avanti

I hesitated myself back in November, but more than few rational posters sucked me in, and I'm glad they did.

I remember when I first got here it almost seemed like people would down ding you for saying anything. Foghorn-Leghorn would just sit there and down-ding you for everything.

98 reine.de.tout  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:48:10pm

re: #92 Rightwingconspirator

Thats a puzzle, does Space Jesus have the record for a negative number? Space Jesus are you on this thread?

Click "show users" at the bottom of the comment box at the bottom of the page.
All will be revealed.

99 carefulnow  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:48:41pm

sqrt{2}
Is this an irrational posting?

100 SpaceJesus  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:48:52pm

i bet the stalker bloggers are hitting the f5 button faster than a chimp in a jerk off contest right now

101 austin_blue  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:49:10pm

re: #95 freetoken

When I saw "space weasel", it was the first thing that crossed my mind.

Well, of course. GMTA.

102 Gus  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:49:47pm

re: #100 SpaceJesus

i bet the stalker bloggers are hitting the f5 button faster than a chimp in a jerk off contest right now

Wasn't that Pavlov's chimp?

/

103 Ayeless in Ghazi  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:50:08pm

re: #67 Bagua

That observation is generally made in goodbye posts, not hello.

No, I think he means it has changed for the better, the opposite of the kind of goodbye posts you are thinking of :)

104 Daniel Ballard  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:50:16pm

re: #98 reine.de.tout

Ah!

105 albusteve  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:50:16pm

re: #97 Gus 802

I remember when I first got here it almost seemed like people would down ding you for saying anything. Foghorn-Leghorn would just sit there and down-ding you for everything.

I think everyone should be able to see the karma but that poster themself...hahaha!...don't pay attention and you'll never know who dislikes you, who needs that?

106 freetoken  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:50:45pm

re: #100 SpaceJesus

Heh... just went over to deuce to check out if any stalkers are working both sides... noticed someone reposted a post of mine... called me "cheap skate"... well, that's better than what BSM used to call me anyway.

107 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:50:55pm

Greetings new lizards!

108 austin_blue  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:51:23pm

re: #100 SpaceJesus

i bet the stalker bloggers are hitting the f5 button faster than a chimp in a jerk off contest right now

And here's our in-house curmudgeon! Welcome, oh profane one! Please stir the pot. It really is fun to watch.

109 avanti  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:51:25pm

re: #87 albusteve

I had nothing to do with it, I'm innocent

LOL, you are indeed.

110 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:51:49pm

re: #106 freetoken

Heh... just went over to deuce to check out if any stalkers are working both sides... noticed someone reposted a post of mine... called me "cheap skate"... well, that's better than what BSM used to call me anyway.

Ahh you should see what they call me :)

I'm actually entertained. It is nice to know that no matter what I write I have a devoted following :)

111 albusteve  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:52:19pm

re: #109 avanti

LOL, you are indeed.

what's up, Studa breaker?

112 prairiefire  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:52:20pm

re: #107 LudwigVanQuixote

Thanks, LudwigVanQuixote. Great name.

113 austin_blue  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:52:32pm

re: #107 LudwigVanQuixote

Greetings new lizards!

Good evening, LVQ. Hope the day finds you well and feisty.

114 simoom  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:52:42pm

Hey there lizard hatchlings. Guess what, it's your LGF Birthday! :D

Youtube Video
115 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:52:54pm

re: #112 prairiefire

Thanks, LudwigVanQuixote. Great name.

Hey thanks! Do tell us about yourself please!

116 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:53:10pm

re: #113 austin_blue

Good evening, LVQ. Hope the day finds you well and feisty.

Thank you! Yes to both counts.

117 Achilles Tang  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:53:26pm

re: #110 LudwigVanQuixote

Ahh you should see what they call me :)

I'm actually entertained. It is nice to know that no matter what I write I have a devoted following :)

You do! Where?

118 freetoken  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:53:32pm

re: #107 LudwigVanQuixote

Good evening agent LVQ.

Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to educate Glenn Reynolds about AGW.

MP3 Audio
119 avanti  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:54:10pm

re: #97 Gus 802

I remember when I first got here it almost seemed like people would down ding you for saying anything. Foghorn-Leghorn would just sit there and down-ding you for everything.

Ah, those were the days, good times and a character builder to boot.

120 prairiefire  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:54:12pm

re: #114 simoom

Thanks for the video, made my kids laugh

121 The Curmudgeon  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:54:13pm

re: #108 austin_blue

And here's our in-house curmudgeon [SpaceJesus]! Welcome, oh profane one! Please stir the pot. It really is fun to watch.

Hey, what am I -- the out-house Curmudgeon?

122 Gus  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:54:24pm

re: #105 albusteve

I think everyone should be able to see the karma but that poster themself...hahaha!...don't pay attention and you'll never know who dislikes you, who needs that?

Yeah. That serial down dinging finally came to a halt. Wasn't something I took too seriously at the time.

123 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:55:45pm

Speaking of racist assholes, Tom Metzger is on the History Chanel.

124 Daniel Ballard  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:56:42pm

re: #123 MandyManners

thanks for the warning. Would that be the histrionic channel now?

125 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:57:12pm

re: #123 MandyManners

Speaking of racist assholes, Tom Metzger is on the History Chanel.

What's his favorite fragrance, #5, #19 or #22?

126 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:57:34pm

re: #116 LudwigVanQuixote

Thank you! Yes to both counts.

Here's one for you, Ludwig. This article by Victor Davis Hanson is critical of your AGW conclusions while not outright denying them. How would you answer the article with a view towards convincing its writer?

Obama’s Theorems

127 Bagua  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:58:06pm

re: #103 Jimmah

No, I think he means it has changed for the better, the opposite of the kind of goodbye posts you are thinking of :)

What I am suggesting is that this idea of "direction of the blog" suggests a partisan bias. Those that have flounced assumed their bias was favoured and then that changed, those joining now because they image their bias is favoured will likewise feel indignant when their crazies are challenged.

128 albusteve  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:58:14pm

4th Street in Albuquerque's North Valley is a mecca of speed shops, chopper builders, vintage car builders, street rods etc...luckily I was cruising by when out rolled one of these from a local upholsterer...drool


Image: 1957-Nomad.jpg

129 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:58:25pm

re: #126 Dark_Falcon

Here's one for you, Ludwig. This article by Victor Davis Hanson is critical of your AGW conclusions while not outright denying them. How would you answer the article with a view towards convincing its writer?

Obama’s Theorems

Damn you. It was nice a peaceful here all day!!

//

130 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:58:31pm

re: #117 Naso Tang

You do! Where?

There are three or four at the village of the banned who are always (mis)quoting me and bitching about me. In particular, the former earth to moonbat and TFK. Then there are always a couple who pile on.

Alas I have nowhere near the following that Ice or Jimmah or Sharm or Kilgore has, but, I can keep trying.

It gets particularly intense whenever we have an AGW thread.

They like to claim that I am not:

Male,
A scientist,
straight,
knowledgeable about Judaism

My favorite theory so far about myself is that I am a female psychology student in a lesbian relationship with Ice.

131 Sharmuta  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:58:56pm

re: #31 Charles

I may start requiring people who register to post at least one comment immediately after registering to introduce themselves. If they don't post a comment within an hour, their account would be blocked.

Haven't decided on this for sure yet.

What about a 24 hour rule?

132 avanti  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:59:01pm

re: #111 albusteve

what's up, Studa breaker?

Just put a car on ebay, 3 more on the doll up line. Here's the one I just listed.

Stude.

133 austin_blue  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:59:14pm

re: #118 freetoken

Good evening agent LVQ.

Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to educate Glenn Reynolds about AGW.

[Video]

I fear that's like trying to teach a rock to sing The Queen of the Night.

Youtube Video
134 Ojoe  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:59:19pm

A man playing the bagpipes on a beach in Spain.

Music break.

135 albusteve  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:59:19pm

re: #119 avanti

Ah, those were the days, good times and a character builder to boot.

good old day's?...that was just last year

136 BenghaziHoops  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:59:35pm

Yippee! I finally made it!
Who validates parking for my socks? Where do i sign up to tell Charles what to post? Is it just me or does anyone else tear up when Glenn Beck talks?
This web site is sending a tingle up my leg...
Do you have any idea how hard it is to piss up a rope? It takes practice...

137 RiciaH  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 4:59:50pm

I registered earlier this week, and am glad to be here.

138 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:00:56pm

re: #118 freetoken

Good evening agent LVQ.

Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to educate Glenn Reynolds about AGW.

[Video]

Always fun! Where is this Glenn to be found? Which if the ten most common but completely false, anti AGW talking points does he subscribe to?

Is it: Global conspiracy driven by grant money?

Medieval warm vikings?

Not warm since 1998?

My favorite, CO2 is plant food!

139 albusteve  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:01:07pm

re: #132 avanti

Just put a car on ebay, 3 more on the doll up line. Here's the one I just listed.

Stude.

that is one ugly car...cool hub caps tho...had those on my VW camper

140 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:01:14pm

re: #125 Alouette

What's his favorite fragrance, #5, #19 or #22?

88.

141 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:01:23pm

re: #132 avanti

Just put a car on ebay, 3 more on the doll up line. Here's the one I just listed.

Stude.

Very cool.

142 Lidane  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:01:42pm

re: #9 Bael

Wow, I'm glad I finally got to register. I've been waiting a long time. :)

Same here. I've missed the last few registration threads, but managed to get in on this one.

I'll admit I didn't read much of LGF in the past, but I've spent the last few weeks lurking around here getting a feel for the place. I like it. I'm always up for a good discussion with folks, even if we don't agree on something, and the discussions here seem to be pretty fun.

143 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:01:44pm

re: #133 austin_blue

Great taste in music!

My personal phrase for it is "attempting to teach algebra to a cat."

144 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:01:58pm

Now it's "Secrets of the Dollar Bill".

THE MASONS ARE COMING!

145 Mary Garth  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:02:04pm

re: #68 iceweasel

I quit reading the comments at LGF almost entirely between Sept 2008 and Nov 2008, although not the blog. A lot of people thought McCain had more of a shot than he did. A lot of people were in denial about Palin. The mood was ugly at times. Not merely at LGF but pretty much all over the right. And it didn't make me happy to read people who were so unhappy, frankly.

A year ago, I was in a rapidly deteriorating relationship with someone who was over the moon for Sarah Palin. He had told me he wasn't a fan of Rush et al, but I think he only said that because he knew that Rush was toxic to a center-right person like myself. As the election approached, it because clear that he had a major case of ODS. When he told me, in all seriousness, that Bill Ayers had written Obama's books, that was the end. But I still miss the guy. I started following LGF recently as therapy! It convinces me every day that I did the right thing.

146 Achilles Tang  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:02:41pm

re: #126 Dark_Falcon

Here's one for you, Ludwig. This article by Victor Davis Hanson is critical of your AGW conclusions while not outright denying them. How would you answer the article with a view towards convincing its writer?

Obama’s Theorems

That is definitely not a fair question./

147 avanti  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:03:18pm

re: #135 albusteve

good old day's?...that was just last year

I know, I'm a newbie.

148 albusteve  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:03:25pm

re: #141 Dark_Falcon

Very cool.

this has more room...

Image: wontfalia_camping.jpg

149 Sharmuta  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:03:30pm

re: #33 reine.de.tout

I like it as an ice-breaker, if nothing else. Shar likes to ask "What drew you to LGF?".

I do like asking that question, Reine. It give the newbies a topic, for one, and it's a topic that helps them relate to us what the appeal of LGF is to them. This gives us an idea of where they're coming from, and gives both us and them a chance to relate to each other on a common point- LGF.

150 Achilles Tang  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:04:00pm

re: #130 LudwigVanQuixote


My favorite theory so far about myself is that I am a female psychology student in a lesbian relationship with Ice.

You have my attention now.

151 Ojoe  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:04:00pm

re: #138 LudwigVanQuixote

Plants do need C02.

So you have to grant them that point.

152 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:04:21pm

re: #142 Lidane

Same here. I've missed the last few registration threads, but managed to get in on this one.

I'll admit I didn't read much of LGF in the past, but I've spent the last few weeks lurking around here getting a feel for the place. I like it. I'm always up for a good discussion with folks, even if we don't agree on something, and the discussions here seem to be pretty fun.

I lurked here for several years before I got the chance to register.

153 freetoken  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:04:55pm

re: #138 LudwigVanQuixote

Always fun! Where is this Glenn to be found?

Tennessee, and haven't you heard of Instapundit? He is one of the grandfathers of blogging, and has become a right-wing institution though he is more accurately described as a libertine trouble maker.

154 prairiefire  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:04:59pm

re: #115 LudwigVanQuixote

Hi, we were getting lost in the youtube world for a bit there. Well, I first read about Charles and this blog re: the 60 minutes issue. I enjoy reading all sorts of opinions, from left to right. I think people are fascinating and blogs let me see all kinds of attitudes and ideas folks have. I appreciate the open attitude here. I registered on Redstate.com a few years ago, but have not posted much at all as I don't think I have the skills to state an opinion without immediately offending them and being banned. I think that Charles is a truthful, not "truthy" guy, and I respect that.

155 Ayeless in Ghazi  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:05:05pm

re: #127 Bagua

What I am suggesting is that this idea of "direction of the blog" suggests a partisan bias. Those that have flounced assumed their bias was favoured and then that changed, those joining now because they image their bias is favoured will likewise feel indignant when their crazies are challenged.

They may also be perfectly reasonable people who want to challenge those crazies themselves.

156 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:05:23pm

re: #150 Naso Tang

You have my attention now.

BUt alas, I am a bearded, male physicist. I do share many of the same views as lesbians though...

157 albusteve  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:05:58pm

re: #156 LudwigVanQuixote

BUt alas, I am a bearded, male physicist. I do share many of the same views as lesbians though...

so you sit to pee?...thought so

158 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:06:27pm

re: #157 albusteve

so you sit to pee?...thought so

Peirced nose?

159 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:06:55pm

re: #153 freetoken

Tennessee, and haven't you heard of Instapundit? He is one of the grandfathers of blogging, and has become a right-wing institution though he is more accurately described as a libertine trouble maker.

Ahhh I have heard of intaspundit yes. I did not know that was his name though. As to edumacating him on the physics of AGW, I have enough work left here.

160 lostlakehiker  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:07:01pm

It takes a lot to make something unconstitutional. Also, what's unconstitutional is to some extent a matter of opinion and a matter of the climate of the times. Is the death penalty unconstitutional? If everybody found it cruel and unusual, then it would be. As things now stand, it isn't.

The RW tends to conflate the constitution with holy writ, and takes a literal reading of both to unreasonable extremes. Both texts are written by mortals, (leaving aside the question of whether they were inspired, or just writing their own ideas). Absolute clarity of writing available only to computer code writers and mostly not even then, we shall have to puzzle out what they meant. What did their contemporaries think they meant? Etc.

This silliness intrudes even into small questions. Are red light cameras that automatically ticket people who run the right or right-turn without coming to a full stop unconstitutional? Is it unconstitutional to shorten the yellow light so as to enhance revenues?

Of course not! It's just stupid and venal. Stupid, venal government actions can perfectly well be constitutional. If the voters don't like those laws, they can always vote out of office the guys who took those actions, and put in place officials who see things their way. That is why we have elections.

161 Bagua  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:07:25pm

re: #130 LudwigVanQuixote


My favorite theory so far about myself is that I am a female psychology student in a lesbian relationship with Ice.

That's a hoax too?

162 avanti  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:08:03pm

re: #141 Dark_Falcon

Very cool.

That the famous "Which way is it going Studebaker", in 47, the new Studebaker was the first car without running boards or big outboard fenders, and the butt of jokes.

163 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:08:39pm

re: #154 prairiefire

Hi, we were getting lost in the youtube world for a bit there. Well, I first read about Charles and this blog re: the 60 minutes issue. I enjoy reading all sorts of opinions, from left to right. I think people are fascinating and blogs let me see all kinds of attitudes and ideas folks have. I appreciate the open attitude here. I registered on Redstate.com a few years ago, but have not posted much at all as I don't think I have the skills to state an opinion without immediately offending them and being banned. I think that Charles is a truthful, not "truthy" guy, and I respect that.

Yes he is. That is why I like him. He's one of the few honestly thoughtful sorts in the blogosphere.

164 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:09:28pm

re: #162 avanti

That the famous "Which way is it going Studebaker", in 47, the new Studebaker was the first car without running boards or big outboard fenders, and the butt of jokes.

Good to see not everything has changed in the last 60+ years!

165 Sharmuta  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:09:35pm

I think ways of getting newbies to join the conversation is a good idea. Why register if you're going to leave your account dormant for 2+ years just a post a crude message or flounce in order to get banned? If you're not really interested in being here- why register? Weird. I like the newbies to get involved.

At one point in time, some of my favorite Lizards were newbies. Like Hoops.

166 ryannon  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:09:47pm

re: #128 albusteve

4th Street in Albuquerque's North Valley is a mecca of speed shops, chopper builders, vintage car builders, street rods etc...luckily I was cruising by when out rolled one of these from a local upholsterer...drool

[Link: www.55classicchevy.com...]

Car thread!

Image: splash01ns5.jpg

167 austin_blue  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:10:23pm

Well, She Must Be Obeyed is home. I must cook steak. Goodnight all!

168 Ojoe  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:11:07pm

re: #141 Dark_Falcon

Hard to be cooler than this Studebaker.

169 Achilles Tang  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:11:08pm

re: #160 lostlakehiker

It takes a lot to make something unconstitutional. Also, what's unconstitutional is to some extent a matter of opinion and a matter of the climate of the times.

Like the 2nd amendment that is designed to protect the constitution through the use of arms, when necessary?

Of course the devil resides in the definition of "necessary", as Timothy McVeigh understood.

170 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:11:17pm

re: #151 Ojoe

Plants do need C02.

So you have to grant them that point.

Well yes... But to carry it to, so therefore there is no such thing as too much of it in the atmosphere is where I feel the need to break heads.

What a lot of people don't understand about the delicate scientific mindset is that there are only so many hundred repetitions of the completely stupid before it actually begins to cause pain to see or hear.

171 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:11:41pm

re: #140 MandyManners

88.

Face palm.

172 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:11:47pm

re: #167 austin_blue

Well, She Must Be Obeyed is home. I must cook steak. Goodnight all!

Rumpole Rules!

173 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:12:31pm

And the Bills win over the Jets, with a 47-yard FG for a 16-13 overtime win!

174 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:12:58pm

Welcome to all the slightly newer hatchlings. :)

(one post closer to fifty, lol)

175 Daniel Ballard  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:12:59pm

re: #165 Sharmuta

Yeah, loved that "where do you sign up to tell Charles what topics to have". LOL Don't take that seriously anyone!

176 albusteve  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:13:07pm

re: #166 ryannon

Car thread!

[Link: img262.imageshack.us...]

yikes!...that's alot of iron...this is more my style, who needs fenders?

Image: IMG_0386.178111937.JPG

177 lostlakehiker  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:13:21pm

re: #131 Sharmuta

What about a 24 hour rule?

Wouldn't work. If any old platitude or equivocation will serve, those who want to hold their cards close and feel things out before plunging into the whirlwind will post some vanilla nothing. If genuine thoughtful comment is required, some new lizards won't be able to read enough threads and get the pulse of this blog fast enough to be ready to put in their two bits worth within the time limit. And if self-revelatory comment is required, there goes the anonymity. A 1-week limit would make more sense.

178 Bagua  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:13:35pm

re: #155 Jimmah

They may also be perfectly reasonable people who want to challenge those crazies themselves.

Of course. I'm referring to those who like to be in company of those they agree with. Not those on a mission.

Youtube Video
179 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:15:39pm

re: #149 Sharmuta

I do like asking that question, Reine. It give the newbies a topic, for one, and it's a topic that helps them relate to us what the appeal of LGF is to them. This gives us an idea of where they're coming from, and gives both us and them a chance to relate to each other on a common point- LGF.

It actually would have been nice to have a Newbie thread to play in
(no real content). I still haven't taken my training wheels off. A true
naif has to learn LGF mechanics, more before getting into knife fights.

180 albusteve  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:16:40pm

one of the three or four most perfect cars ever made in America...

Image: 67Chevelle10RightSide.JPG

181 ryannon  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:17:12pm

re: #168 Ojoe

Hard to be cooler than this Studebaker.

With it's nose right there on the salt.

I'd imagine it lifts right up once that supercharger kicks in.

182 freetoken  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:17:17pm

re: #159 LudwigVanQuixote

Ahhh I have heard of intaspundit yes. I did not know that was his name though. As to edumacating him on the physics of AGW, I have enough work left here.

Think "force multiplier" my friend.

There are many of us here who will side with science over superstition.

However, Glenn Reynolds sends thousands to millions of clicks to the worst of the deniers. And, as I showed upstream, he does likewise send traffic to the tea partiers and the secessionists.

Reynolds doesn't allow comments at his site, and I have emailed him before (in vain, though not unexpectedly.)

A better approach would be to work on those with whom he does associate, who do allow comments, such as Althouse and McCardle. These two women who nominally are (non radical) feminists need to be confronted on why they are encouraging their acquaintance/friend to spread disinformation and to encourage sedition.

183 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:17:29pm

re: #180 albusteve

one of the three or four most perfect cars ever made in America...

[Link: www.universalautosalesandclassiccars.com...]

Nice,, but I'll take my 57 Chevy Bel Air

184 albusteve  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:17:38pm

re: #179 Decatur Deb

It actually would have been nice to have a Newbie thread to play in
(no real content). I still haven't taken my training wheels off. A true
naif has to learn LGF mechanics, more before getting into knife fights.

you are in one now...

185 Daniel Ballard  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:17:57pm

re: #179 Decatur Deb

Quite so. I humbly admit exactly that error.

186 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:18:23pm

re: #180 albusteve

one of the three or four most perfect cars ever made in America...

[Link: www.universalautosalesandclassiccars.com...]

Very, very cool, that one. Those sometimes show up at classic car events here in Chicagoland.

187 albusteve  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:19:23pm

re: #183 sattv4u2

Nice,, but I'll take my 57 Chevy Bel Air

here she is!...(you knew that was coming)

Image: 57BelAirRightSide.JPG

188 Ojoe  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:19:44pm

re: #170 LudwigVanQuixote

Correct. (as to brain pain).

***

I hope, with this fossil fuel use, that we get to some happy medium (probably involving a decrease in how much carbon we are putting back into biological circulation) which stops too much temperature rise yet prevents another ice age.

Because it seems to me, that the ancient carbon sequestering represented by the fossil fuels, could have over the eons put the earth into a position to generate ice ages as the Milanlovitch cycles came and went.

It seems that the earth was more temperate for a long time, and the glacial - interglacial alternations are recent. (Brittanica).

If we are lucky we will have perfect (what we are historically used to) climate then. With snowy winters in the right places, perfect for Santa Claus.

And so forth.

189 BenghaziHoops  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:20:12pm

re: #186 Dark_Falcon

Very, very cool, that one. Those sometimes show up at classic car events here in Chicagoland.

The Bears play tonight.. Good luck Bear fans

190 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:20:20pm

re: #184 albusteve

you are in one now...

And very slow with the parry.

191 keithgabryelski  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:20:26pm

re: #165 Sharmuta

I think ways of getting newbies to join the conversation is a good idea. Why register if you're going to leave your account dormant for 2+ years just a post a crude message or flounce in order to get banned? If you're not really interested in being here- why register? Weird. I like the newbies to get involved.

At one point in time, some of my favorite Lizards were newbies. Like Hoops.

I didn't comment for about six months after I first registered.

I registered only because I thought I might comment someday.

192 ryannon  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:20:31pm

re: #176 albusteve

yikes!...that's alot of iron...this is more my style, who needs fenders?

[Link: www.customcreationsbyben.com...]

An American classic, that.

Raise you one with this work of art:

Image: 354546887307319a8a0xk2.jpg

193 prairiefire  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:20:32pm

re: #187 albusteve

What a Beauty!

194 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:21:11pm

re: #189 HoosierHoops

The Bears play tonight.. Good luck Bear fans

I'll be watching the game. I think the Bears will win it, though not by a overly-large margin.

195 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:21:17pm

re: #182 freetoken

Think "force multiplier" my friend.

There are many of us here who will side with science over superstition.

However, Glenn Reynolds sends thousands to millions of clicks to the worst of the deniers. And, as I showed upstream, he does likewise send traffic to the tea partiers and the secessionists.

Reynolds doesn't allow comments at his site, and I have emailed him before (in vain, though not unexpectedly.)

A better approach would be to work on those with whom he does associate, who do allow comments, such as Althouse and McCardle. These two women who nominally are (non radical) feminists need to be confronted on why they are encouraging their acquaintance/friend to spread disinformation and to encourage sedition.

Fair enough... Then perhaps it is time to compose some ready made posts that will knock down the most common B.S. and get the facts out. By now I have several dozen posts we could use for it.

196 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:21:22pm

re: #130 LudwigVanQuixote

There are three or four at the village of the banned who are always (mis)quoting me and bitching about me. In particular, the former earth to moonbat and TFK. Then there are always a couple who pile on.

Alas I have nowhere near the following that Ice or Jimmah or Sharm or Kilgore has, but, I can keep trying.

It gets particularly intense whenever we have an AGW thread.

They like to claim that I am not:

Male,
A scientist,
straight,
knowledgeable about Judaism

My favorite theory so far about myself is that I am a female psychology student in a lesbian relationship with Ice.

Hey do the stalkers ever say mean stuff about me?

197 albusteve  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:21:27pm

re: #186 Dark_Falcon

Very, very cool, that one. Those sometimes show up at classic car events here in Chicagoland.

last year I saw one here in town...lightning blue, big block, 427/425hp...extremely rare...couple hundred grand

198 freetoken  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:21:27pm

re: #188 Ojoe

With snowy winters in the right places, perfect for Santa Claus.

With that, I will remind everyone that we have less than 68 shopping days until Christmas!

MP3 Audio
199 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:21:44pm

re: #187 albusteve

here she is!...(you knew that was coming)

[Link: www.universalautosalesandclassiccars.com...]

Always a classic and one of my personal favorites.

200 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:22:10pm

re: #187 albusteve

That is pretty.

59 Bel Air versus 2009 Malibu...

201 freetoken  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:22:40pm

re: #195 LudwigVanQuixote

Fair enough... Then perhaps it is time to compose some ready made posts that will knock down the most common B.S. and get the facts out.

WARNING: Reynolds (as is Althouse) is a law professor. "facts" is what they deal with all day. Your "facts" is not what Reynolds is concerned with. His goal is to cause controversy.

202 Randall Gross  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:22:47pm

Bwahahaha

Creationist stuffs a Chupacabra for his museum:

Youtube Video
203 albusteve  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:22:58pm

re: #192 ryannon

An American classic, that.

Raise you one with this work of art:

[Link: img49.imageshack.us...]

wtf?...no rear tires?

204 Raryn  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:23:00pm

Hey all. Just registered today, commenting to say Hi :)

Long time reader, looking forward to seeing the supersekret threads now :P

205 Sharmuta  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:23:16pm

re: #179 Decatur Deb

It actually would have been nice to have a Newbie thread to play in
(no real content). I still haven't taken my training wheels off. A true
naif has to learn LGF mechanics, more before getting into knife fights.

I think registration threads serve a great purpose for that. They're laid back, semi-open threads where we're getting to know new people and maybe talk a little politics. A much more inviting atmosphere for new people to dip in their toe. For those who are more serious, and really want to comment on articles, LGF has the entire front page and spinoffs for them to jump right in, or a topic thread will get posted later. I like the idea of making some sort of attempt to get folks to join in, and be less intimidated.

206 reine.de.tout  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:23:29pm

re: #191 keithgabryelski

I didn't comment for about six months after I first registered.

I registered only because I thought I might comment someday.

I didn't comment for about six months after I first registered.

I was scared.

207 albusteve  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:23:42pm

re: #199 Dark_Falcon

Always a classic and one of my personal favorites.

satts pimpmobile...he be stylin

208 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:24:57pm

The sheriff investigating the Balloon Boy incident said Sunday it was a "hoax" and a "publicity stunt" the boy's parents hoped to parlay into a reality TV show, and promised that charges would be presented to the local district attorney's office.

Larimer County Sheriff Jim Alderden said the charges against Richard and Mayumi Heene would include conspiracy, attempting to influence a public servant, contributing to the delinquency of a minor, and false reporting to authorities.

Some of the most serious charges each carry a maximum sentence of six years in prison and a $500,000 fine.

SNIP

209 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:25:11pm

re: #204 Raryn

Hey all. Just registered today, commenting to say Hi :)

Long time reader, looking forward to seeing the supersekret threads now :P

Welcome to the team. Glad to have you on board.

210 BenghaziHoops  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:25:25pm

re: #194 Dark_Falcon

I'll be watching the game. I think the Bears will win it, though not by a overly-large margin.

Part of my prayers every night is I thank the Football Gods that Chicago had such a suckwad Quarterback in the Superbowl in 2007.
We were the world Champion Indianapolis Colts for a whole year because of that.
Thank you Bears
/.

211 Sharmuta  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:25:43pm

re: #191 keithgabryelski

I didn't comment for about six months after I first registered.

I registered only because I thought I might comment someday.

Newbies have to comment 50 times to get their dinger, so there is an incentive for them to speak up now.

212 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:26:14pm

re: #187 albusteve

here she is!...(you knew that was coming)

[Link: www.universalautosalesandclassiccars.com...]

Thats my baby,,, but mine is powder blue , I wanted a Fire Engine Red one, but the one I found was in much better shape for less money than the red ones I saw

213 Raryn  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:26:54pm

re: #211 Sharmuta

Newbies have to comment 50 times to get their dinger, so there is an incentive for them to speak up now.

Dinger?

214 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:27:09pm

re: #200 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That is pretty.

59 Bel Air versus 2009 Malibu...

Avanti! Did you see this?

215 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:27:18pm

re: #210 HoosierHoops

Part of my prayers every night is I thank the Football Gods that Chicago had such a suckwad Quarterback in the Superbowl in 2007.
We were the world Champion Indianapolis Colts for a whole year because of that.
Thank you Bears
/.

Glad you enjoyed it, 'cause that sure ain't true anymore. We've got Jay Cutler now, and he's given the Bears offense a twofold increase in effectiveness.

216 ryannon  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:27:30pm

re: #203 albusteve

wtf?...no rear tires?

I guess you're just supposed to admire it, not drive it.

/

And now, pure European class:

Image: 1934voisinc15roadsterbyvi3.jpg

217 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:27:33pm

re: #188 Ojoe

Correct. (as to brain pain).

***

I hope, with this fossil fuel use, that we get to some happy medium (probably involving a decrease in how much carbon we are putting back into biological circulation) which stops too much temperature rise yet prevents another ice age.

Because it seems to me, that the ancient carbon sequestering represented by the fossil fuels, could have over the eons put the earth into a position to generate ice ages as the Milanlovitch cycles came and went.

It seems that the earth was more temperate for a long time, and the glacial - interglacial alternations are recent. (Brittanica).

If we are lucky we will have perfect (what we are historically used to) climate then. With snowy winters in the right places, perfect for Santa Claus.

And so forth.

You are pretty well on the money, except that you need to take the feedbacks better into account and the massive deaths of plants in the oceans and on land that would scrub the CO2 into account.

In the past, there were much warmer periods, coupled with mass extinction events and very large tracks of what is presently above water being under it.

In one century, we have put out carbon in excess of what it took millions of years to sequester. If we push to the point that the bogs in Siberia and Canada go, there will be no happy medium possible. That will produce a runaway warming in which we really do loose both caps, Greenland and the glaciers.

In addition to terrible changes in growing patterns and shortages of fresh water, that also means a 200 ft. rise in sea level.

The problem is that CO2 stays up there for centuries. We are already committed to more warming through the next century even if we stopped al;l GHG production today.

If we push too far, we get to a point where all of our actions to fix the situation, still will not prevent the bogs from going. If that happens we really are totally screwed.

218 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:27:47pm

re: #213 Raryn

Dinger?

yes ,, dinger

ahh ,,, you have such a long and wonderous journey before you, grasshopper

219 keithgabryelski  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:28:01pm

re: #211 Sharmuta

Newbies have to comment 50 times to get their dinger, so there is an incentive for them to speak up now.

The question is, what problem are we trying to solve?

* More people adding to conversation?
* Flush out flouncers?

220 Sharmuta  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:28:01pm

re: #213 Raryn

Dinger?

Rating comments, articles and spinoff links.

221 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:28:02pm

re: #213 Raryn

After you post fifty times. You afterward have the opportunity to hit the "plus" button on each and every post made by obese people.

222 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:28:14pm

re: #196 Alouette

Hey do the stalkers ever say mean stuff about me?

Alas, not that I have seen. You must be leading too clean a life.

223 bratwurst  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:28:22pm

re: #213 Raryn

Dinger?


In bed.

224 Achilles Tang  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:28:26pm

re: #211 Sharmuta

Newbies have to comment 50 times to get their dinger, so there is an incentive for them to speak up now.

Is that in effect now?

225 Raryn  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:29:35pm

re: #220 Sharmuta

Rating comments, articles and spinoff links.

Ahhh. Didn't even realize I couldn't do it right now.

Now I have a goal ;)

226 albusteve  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:29:36pm

re: #212 sattv4u2

Thats my baby,,, but mine is powder blue , I wanted a Fire Engine Red one, but the one I found was in much better shape for less money than the red ones I saw

there is a four door wagon down the street from me...rootbeer and white, no motor...a real project, $9000 firm...he has several guys who want to buy it

227 Sharmuta  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:29:41pm

re: #219 keithgabryelski

The question is, what problem are we trying to solve?

* More people adding to conversation?
* Flush out flouncers?

I'm not sure. I personally would like to see more newbies join in the threads. Not sure you can flush a flounce before it's time.

228 BARACK THE VOTE  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:29:45pm

re: #201 freetoken

WARNING: Reynolds (as is Althouse) is a law professor. "facts" is what they deal with all day. Your "facts" is not what Reynolds is concerned with. His goal is to cause controversy.

Precisely. This is one reason why I (and others) have referred to him as InstaHack for a long time. His entire schtick is to pretend to be some sort of libertarian while linking all sorts of questionable items without comment or with minimal comment: Heh. Indeed. Read the whole thing.

This enables him to preserve a quasi sort of plausible deniability (I didn't recommend it, I just linked it) while pushing all kinds of crap.
And he almost never, ever retracts anything. Or corrects anything.

229 BenghaziHoops  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:29:52pm

re: #204 Raryn

Hey all. Just registered today, commenting to say Hi :)

Long time reader, looking forward to seeing the supersekret threads now :P

We generally make the new guys sit in their underwear with the webcam on the secret threads...It's a tough crowd in there..For for goodness sakes be original.. The shorts with the little red hearts has been done to death by newbees. Surprise us...

230 prairiefire  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:30:00pm

re: #208 MandyManners

I think that dad was letting Falcon chew on the toxic glow stick (cap end in his mouth) on purpose, just to drive me insane

231 Sharmuta  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:30:06pm

re: #225 Raryn

Ahhh. Didn't even realize I couldn't do it right now.

Now I have a goal ;)

Exactly!

232 ryannon  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:30:08pm

re: #200 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That is pretty.

59 Bel Air versus 2009 Malibu...

They sure don't build 'em like they used to.

233 swamprat  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:30:18pm

re: #219 keithgabryelski

Stop people who act like they have no keyboard, but know how to use a mouse.

234 Raryn  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:30:54pm

re: #229 HoosierHoops

re: #229 HoosierHoops

We generally make the new guys sit in their underwear with the webcam on the secret threads...It's a tough crowd in there..For for goodness sakes be original.. The shorts with the little red hearts has been done to death by newbees. Surprise us...

I think me in my underwear would be closer to hazing for those of you watching than it would be for me. I wouldn't care :P

235 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:31:13pm

re: #232 ryannon

They sure don't build 'em like they used to.

Yeah. Thank goodness.

236 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:31:30pm

re: #226 albusteve

there is a four door wagon down the street from me...rootbeer and white, no motor...a real project, $9000 firm...he has several guys who want to buy it

If the body/ tires/ suspension/ interior is mint thats actually a bargain

237 Gearhead  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:31:33pm

Welcome n00bs.

Any predictions on the pounce & flounce number for the evening?

238 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:31:33pm

re: #201 freetoken

WARNING: Reynolds (as is Althouse) is a law professor. "facts" is what they deal with all day. Your "facts" is not what Reynolds is concerned with. His goal is to cause controversy.

Ahhh, nothing annoys a scientist more than an attorney who likes to twist words that the attorney only half understands. If it would be possible to argue on the math it would be much easier. There is very little room to play games with semantics as the equations are mathematically defined. The only problem with that is that no one could follow the discussion and the disingenuous attorney banks on that when he plays his word games.

That is why it is so important to speak in strong definitive declarative statements about what we know. You just have to say flat out, that something is a lie when it is a lie and that we are certain about what we are certain about.

239 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:33:49pm

re: #228 iceweasel

Precisely. This is one reason why I (and others) have referred to him as InstaHack for a long time. His entire schtick is to pretend to be some sort of libertarian while linking all sorts of questionable items without comment or with minimal comment: Heh. Indeed. Read the whole thing.

This enables him to preserve a quasi sort of plausible deniability (I didn't recommend it, I just linked it) while pushing all kinds of crap.
And he almost never, ever retracts anything. Or corrects anything.

Sent you a mail.

Also, it strikes me then as almost no point in trying to address directly. We might as well try to reason with Beck.

240 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:34:06pm

re: #230 prairiefire

I think that dad was letting Falcon chew on the toxic glow stick (cap end in his mouth) on purpose, just to drive me insane

I think dad and mom should do some time in the pokie.

241 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:34:26pm

re: #238 LudwigVanQuixote

Ludwig, question: How do you answer the "cold decade" argument with a view to winning over the arguer?

242 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:34:38pm

re: #179 Decatur Deb

It actually would have been nice to have a Newbie thread to play in
(no real content). I still haven't taken my training wheels off. A true
naif has to learn LGF mechanics, more before getting into knife fights.

So, if I understand you properly, you want to start...

A NOOB THREAD?!

WOO HOO!

243 keithgabryelski  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:34:49pm

re: #233 swamprat

Stop people who act like they have no keyboard, but know how to use a mouse.

lurkers that ding? why is this an problem? a lurker can like and not like a comment/thread.

I understand it is a problem if people are here to downding (or upding mean spirited comments) and otherwise not participate -- that speaks to a need to manage the dinging system, not the amount of typing someone does.

244 albusteve  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:35:59pm

re: #236 sattv4u2

If the body/ tires/ suspension/ interior is mint thats actually a bargain

none of it's mint but it's all there...very nice seats and headliner and rear deck, but far from top end...needs plenty of work...down here in ABQ, these guys don't care if a car is collectable or rare or whatever...they will take and old 61 Ply or any old car and dump a bunch into it and be happy...a 4dr wagon is hardly all that desirable but down here he will get his price

245 BARACK THE VOTE  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:36:22pm

re: #239 LudwigVanQuixote

Sent you a mail.

Also, it strikes me then as almost no point in trying to address directly. We might as well try to reason with Beck.

Agreed. He doesn't allow comments and I think that's why. Also, I do think he's a hack-- i.e., someone who is deliberately misleading, and therefore 'truth' is not something he's interested in aiming at.

246 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:36:33pm

re: #211 Sharmuta

Newbies have to comment 50 times to get their dinger, so there is an incentive for them to speak up now.

Updinging the kindly schoolmarm. Or are you just setting a hideous trap?

Welcome to all who are fresher, thus inferior to my veteran self.

247 spinn  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:37:24pm

HOLY CRAP I GOT IN.

248 Daniel Ballard  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:37:42pm

re: #246 Decatur Deb

I for one am liking your style already.

249 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:38:17pm

re: #244 albusteve

none of it's mint but it's all there...very nice seats and headliner and rear deck, but far from top end...needs plenty of work...down here in ABQ, these guys don't care if a car is collectable or rare or whatever...they will take and old 61 Ply or any old car and dump a bunch into it and be happy...a 4dr wagon is hardly all that desirable but down here he will get his price

Then at 9K it's no bargain.

You can get a "good condition' running 57 for $12,500

[Link: autos.yahoo.com...]

250 Sharmuta  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:38:18pm

Newbies-

You should also check out the left side bar, and all the flippy triangles. That's where you'll find some great info on LGF- former big stories, search features, statistics... lots of great stuff. Don't be afraid to click around on stuff and learn all of LGF's bells and whistles.

Sincerely, Sharmuta

P.S.- Consider using a sarc tag until we get to know your humor.

251 BenghaziHoops  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:38:37pm

re: #237 Gearhead

Welcome n00bs.

Any predictions on the pounce & flounce number for the evening?

over/under 327
A couple of promising newbees have registered
FrankenFlounce
YECrocks
Beckenstien
I hate Ice Weasel

252 fizzlogic  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:39:40pm

re: #214 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Smart Car against Mercedes:

Youtube Video
253 harry91  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:40:22pm

re: #229 HoosierHoops

Underwear? You told me that was optional. Am I emabareassed now

254 Bear  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:40:38pm

A quick question for the Studebaker experts, was the WW2 Weasel made by Studebaker? The Weasel was very hard to keep running because of parts failure. Being a self taught Army Ordnance parts clerk, I tried to issue repair parts for the few that were in the area. As I recall those were somewhere in the mountains near Mt Fuji operating in a rest camp.
The Weasel was I think a great idea but needed much more work to make it reliable.

255 lostlakehiker  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:41:16pm

re: #126 Dark_Falcon

Here's one for you, Ludwig. This article by Victor Davis Hanson is critical of your AGW conclusions while not outright denying them. How would you answer the article with a view towards convincing its writer?

Obama’s Theorems

I'll give this task a shot, since I find myself on the same side as LVQ on the AGW issue. VDH is an honorable and intelligent man, so there's a chance he can be convinced.

Take cap-and-trade legislation. We are asked to endanger an already-weak U.S. economy with a series of incentives and punishments to discourage the use of carbon-based fuels, with which — whether shale, natural gas, coal, or petroleum — America is rather well endowed.

Cap and trade is the wrong approach. If we must hinder use of fossil fuels, it would be better to just impose a plain old tax on each ton of CO2 emitted. The danger to the economy could be reduced by postponing the onset of the tax, and by encouraging construction of wind, solar, and nuclear power facilities. As things now stand, there are too many regulatory barriers. We should also coordinate our actions with those of other nations, so that we don't simply cause the production of steel, etc. to move offshore [which would result in a net increase in CO2 emissions, our reductions being more than offset by some other nation's increase.]

Why should we do anything? Because the price we may pay for inaction figures to be greater than the cost of action. We stand to lose a good deal of developed real estate in LA, NYC, Houston, Miami, Philly, etc. We don't want the tropical diseases and pests that will be coming soon to our neighborhood if the place heats up 3 or 6 degrees.

Why does the recent decade-long cooling trend not throw much doubt on the AGW theory? First, the theory never claimed that every decade would be warmer than the previous. The sun gets a vote. Right now, we're in a period of low sunspot activity, and net solar radiance is slightly diminished.

Various climate models already published before this cool spell show "scenarios" for how the world's temperature trend might go. These are like hurricane track predictions...they're all over the map, but they're still useful. These scenarios don't try to predict what will happen. Instead, they give us a sense of the range of likely possibilities. A typical run of the model yields a century that ends several degrees warmer than it started, but within that century, there will be a couple of stretches of cooling that run for a decade or two. If you were playing roulette, you'd see runs of wins, but also runs of losses, and the runs of losses would be a little longer and more severe than the runs of wins. It's the same with the climate: our extra CO2 is loading the dice, but subtly. We don't expect 6 on every roll. We just expect it 18 percent of the time rather than 16.7 percent of the time.

Maybe the breakups of various Antarctic ice shelves will convince the voters. Maybe the coming summer opening of a Northwest Passage will count for something, when it comes. Maybe careful, sober reasoning will convince the voters. Or maybe we'll have to wait until the next Katrina rolls in over new and higher levees and wets down New Orleans beyond repair, during a scorching summer with widespread crop failures. Naysayers will insist that one hot summer doesn't prove anything, and they'll be right, but if cool logic doesn't count for anything, being right won't help the naysayers.

256 prairiefire  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:41:22pm

re: #240 MandyManners

Agreed

257 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:41:24pm

re: #222 LudwigVanQuixote

Alas, not that I have seen. You must be leading too clean a life.

Oh darn.

258 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:41:34pm

re: #247 spinn

HOLY CRAP I GOT IN.

Lost already--Holy Crap is usually on the Inelligent Design threads.

259 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:41:57pm

re: #251 HoosierHoops

over/under 327
A couple of promising newbees have registered
FrankenFlounce
YECrocks
Beckenstien
I hate Ice Weasel

That last one should be banned. If you come in hatin', we don't want you here. We likes us our iceweasel.

260 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:42:03pm

re: #252 trendsurfer

Smart Car against Mercedes:



I saw a Smart Car do the same thing going over a speed bump
/

261 Ojoe  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:42:20pm

re: #217 LudwigVanQuixote

I take it that there is a temperature above which the bogs release more C02?

262 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:42:54pm

re: #247 spinn

HOLY CRAP I GOT IN.

I like your style, kid.

263 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:42:59pm

re: #252 trendsurfer

Yeeeouch!

264 ryannon  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:43:03pm

re: #254 Bear

A quick question for the Studebaker experts, was the WW2 Weasel made by Studebaker? The Weasel was very hard to keep running because of parts failure. Being a self taught Army Ordnance parts clerk, I tried to issue repair parts for the few that were in the area. As I recall those were somewhere in the mountains near Mt Fuji operating in a rest camp.
The Weasel was I think a great idea but needed much more work to make it reliable.

Is this what you're talking about?

265 Ojoe  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:43:04pm

CO2

PIMF

266 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:43:36pm

re: #255 lostlakehiker

Thank you for that. Updinged and favorited.

267 Bizarro Stormy  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:43:51pm

re: #247 spinn

HOLY CRAP I GOT IN.

Ditto...

Hello everyone...

Moderate Democrat here...

Long time listener... first time caller...

or something like that...

268 BARACK THE VOTE  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:44:01pm

re: #259 Dark_Falcon

That last one should be banned. If you come in hatin', we don't want you here. We likes us our iceweasel.

Damn. I should have registered that last one myself.

They say they hate me, but really they looove me...

Youtube Video
269 albusteve  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:44:49pm

re: #249 sattv4u2

Then at 9K it's no bargain.

You can get a "good condition' running 57 for $12,500

[Link: autos.yahoo.com...]

the guy that buys this car will be a home grown, blue collar sort...maybe his dream car...you have to consider that the next town over is 450 miles from here...it's a closed market for the locals...OTOH there are builders and dealers that do business nation wide...lots of rust bucket projects down here if all you want is a frame and a body...if it was ever made there's one in NM...a guy over the way builds Chevy/GMC trucks...pick ups, panels, even wreckers...48-52 exclusively...he has maybe twenty sitting at his shop ready to go and he builds 'em one after another

270 ryannon  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:44:52pm

re: #261 Ojoe

I take it that there is a temperature above which the bogs release more C02?

I believe it has to do with permafrost melt in places like Siberia...

271 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:45:22pm

re: #256 prairiefire

Agreed

How long was that child unattended in the attic?! He's six.

272 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:45:30pm

re: #267 Bizarro Stormy

Long time listener... first time caller...

Nice opening...

273 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:45:43pm

Two flounces in the last 5 minutes in the previous thread. One of them a newbie.

274 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:45:44pm

JC on healthcare reform

275 Ramzy  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:47:21pm

I'm in! Those dozens of times that I missed the registration period were collectively like the Nazis, and I was like the six million Jews who were murdered during the...wait, is my first post it too early for accurately channeling Glenn Beck?

276 reine.de.tout  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:47:30pm

re: #208 MandyManners

The sheriff investigating the Balloon Boy incident said Sunday it was a "hoax" and a "publicity stunt" the boy's parents hoped to parlay into a reality TV show, and promised that charges would be presented to the local district attorney's office.

SNIP

What kind of sick people think they have the right to use up all of those public emergency resources for a publicity stunt in order to get a reality show? The cost, the diverting of resources from real emergencies . . . what must they have been thinking about (well, they weren't obviously).

Can't these parents get a job like everybody else to support the family?

277 lakerfan  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:47:35pm

Wow! I finally got in!
Go Lakers! (I know it's the wrong season, but anyway...)

278 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:48:38pm

re: #275 Ramzy

too early for accurately channeling Glenn Beck?


Yeah, probably.

279 Gearhead  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:49:07pm

re: #258 Decatur Deb

Lost already--Holy Crap is usually on the Inelligent Design threads.

Yep. You're gonna fit in just fine.

281 Sharmuta  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:49:10pm

re: #253 harry91

Underwear? You told me that was optional. Am I emabareassed now

I thought so too, but then- I also thought "pants" was a verb.

282 2by2  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:49:12pm

re: #232 ryannon

They sure don't build 'em like they used to.

I'd say so:

Youtube Video
283 Randall Gross  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:49:39pm

re: #261 Ojoe

I take it that there is a temperature above which the bogs release more C02?

Well Bogdanovich's temperature rises and he emits more CO2 whenever anyone discusses Voyage to the Planet of Prehistoric Women.

284 BenghaziHoops  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:49:47pm

re: #277 lakerfan

Wow! I finally got in!
Go Lakers! (I know it's the wrong season, but anyway...)

OMG! We have a Laker Fan now...Are you somebodies sock? It's not funny lizards!

285 deadletterboy  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:50:06pm

Nice to be here, may be more of a listener than a poster, but I wanted the option open. And I promise to contribute when I have something to say.
So, yeah, hi.

286 ryannon  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:50:29pm

re: #261 Ojoe

From LGF's favorite UK newspaper of reference

/

But it does cover the subject.

287 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:50:38pm

re: #269 albusteve

builds Chevy/GMC trucks

Ahh ,, takes me back to my Yute

We got an Caddy El Dorado at salvage. From the front doors seperation between the back and front doors forwrad to the grill was PERFECT. From that point to the back was pushed in like an accordian. We crafted the back similar to a Chevy El Camino

We call it our El Dorino!

288 Bear  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:51:04pm

re: #264 ryannon

Yes. Thanks.
For my efforts I had a tentative invite to spend a day at the camp but how could a low T-4 get off? One day I had a ride in one working prep for the 1960 Winter Olympics at Squaw Valley, Calif. I wondered if the Weasel would get me back at the end of the day but it did. Snow Cats were rather new yet and I thought they would be more dependable.

289 albusteve  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:51:06pm

re: #272 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Nice opening...

my very first post was some inane comment that was totally ignored except for littleoldlady, who said hello...that was it...there was no fanfare, you lived or died by what you posted because there was almost no attention otherwise...reg was here and there and you had to power lurk to catch an open...by the time I finally registered I knew everybody's style and nuances, I read so much...whatever, sometime it pays to keep your mouth shut as my dubious record here will attest

290 spinn  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:51:24pm

Oh actually I should post an actual something, I guess. It's hard for me to do so on boards that get a crapton or responses like this, because it's hard to believe people really read them in the pile.

Anyway: I wasn't really political in most of my life, but I feel strongly about logic. When I started paying attention in the Bush years, I decided that conservatives abuse logic more often than liberals do, so I'm generally liberal by default.

Became interested in LGF when it started pointing out some of the worst logic abuses of the right. We could probably use the same for the left, but I probably wouldn't enjoy it as much.

291 harry91  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:51:28pm

re: #274 Killgore Trout

Was top post on Reddit today, I laughed and then thought again that it really isn't that funny.

I hate it when cartoons do that.

292 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:51:37pm

re: #276 reine.de.tout

What kind of sick people think they have the right to use up all of those public emergency resources for a publicity stunt in order to get a reality show? The cost, the diverting of resources from real emergencies . . . what must they have been thinking about (well, they weren't obviously).

Can't these parents get a job like everybody else to support the family?

The more I read about them, the more I think there's some serious personality disorder for the both of them.

293 Raryn  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:51:51pm

re: #280 Killgore Trout

Uruguay becomes first nation to provide a laptop for every primary school student
Socialism!

Interesting. Some of the wealthier schools where I'm from have computer classes for kids which require their parents to buy a laptop, but providing it for everyone? Radical idea ;)

294 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:52:21pm

re: #241 Dark_Falcon

Ludwig, question: How do you answer the "cold decade" argument with a view to winning over the arguer?

Well it is interesting that you say it that way.

If the person is actually making that argument in a way that can be reached, as in "I have heard about no warming... is that rue?"

Then I would say the following.

First off, the assertion is not true. If you look at data from year to year, you will see that the graph is not smooth, rather it waggles around a trend that persists over many years.

If you have a spike in one year, but the next one is a little cooler, that does not mean a reversal of the over all trend.

consider the following set of numbers:

1, 2, 0, 1, 3, 2, 4, 3, 6, 3, 5, 8, 4, 6, 9, 10, 14, 8, 11, 10, 15, 16, 13, 14

If you look at it, towards the beginning, the numbers are around 1 and 2.

Towards the end, anyone can see that the numbers are around 14 and 16.

Clearly there is a significant rise in the numbers. Clearly if you look at the intermediate numbers as well, the over all trend of the series is growth.

This is exactly what we see (as a pattern) in the climate. This is exactly what has happened. For over a century, the temperatures on the planet have been steadily rising over all.

Here is a graph from NOAA to show that this is the case.

[Link: www.ncdc.noaa.gov...]

This is direct data from both satellite and ground based and ocean based sensors, thousands of them from around the world. The data is hard to refute, just like it is hard to argue that the series above is not growing.

However, suppose that you wanted to be completely dishonest and use the data to lie to people who don't know the whole story.

You could pick the end of the series (15, 16, 13, 14) and falsely claim "aha! The sequence is clearly going down!" "We stopped growing when we hit 16!" It's just that this is false and based on a sort of mathematical con called cherry picking. The entire trend of the series has been to grow.

In the past there were spikes that went down only to be overtaken. There is no reason to assume that the trend to growth has stopped other than wishful thinking or a desire to simply lie.

This is particularly the case with AGW and world temperatures because there are all sorts of well understood mechanisms in place that assure us we will keep warming. Those physical realities did not go away when we saw the temperature spike in the past, and they have not now. In fact, they have been exacerbated and sooner or later, the numbers will grow strongly. In fact if you look at the central mean of the numbers for temperatures, spikes and all, you will see not only is the temp growing, but the average rate of growth is itself increasing.

295 albusteve  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:52:31pm

re: #287 sattv4u2

builds Chevy/GMC trucks

Ahh ,, takes me back to my Yute

We got an Caddy El Dorado at salvage. From the front doors seperation between the back and front doors forwrad to the grill was PERFECT. From that point to the back was pushed in like an accordian. We crafted the back similar to a Chevy El Camino

We call it our El Dorino!

alright!...what a redneck!...pretty cool

296 Achilles Tang  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:52:32pm

re: #261 Ojoe

I take it that there is a temperature above which the bogs release more C02?

Much of the arctic has bio material frozen in the permafrost, deep down. If it melts it releases massive amounts of methane and CO2, suddenly.

297 lakerfan  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:53:00pm

re: #284 HoosierHoops

"Can't we all just get along?"

298 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:53:16pm

re: #289 albusteve

You are a great poster, you lire: #289 albusteve

I knew however long I waited, I would sound dumb in this crowd... so, well, fools rushed in.

299 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:53:41pm

re: #298 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

fail

300 BARACK THE VOTE  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:53:57pm

re: #290 spinn


Became interested in LGF when it started pointing out some of the worst logic abuses of the right. We could probably use the same for the left, but I probably wouldn't enjoy it as much.

I like the honesty in that. Hi. :)

301 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:54:05pm

Registration has been reopened for the past 20 minutes, and we're now approaching the end of tonight's window of opportunity.

302 ryannon  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:54:13pm

re: #293 Raryn

Interesting. Some of the wealthier schools where I'm from have computer classes for kids which require their parents to buy a laptop, but providing it for everyone? Radical idea ;)

Damn Commies

303 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:54:21pm

re: #295 albusteve

alright!...what a redneck!...pretty cool

Not really. The garage we did it in was in Cambridge Mass of all places

Late 70's

304 Ben G. Hazi  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:54:26pm

re: #264 ryannon

Is this what you're talking about?

Looks like the US version of the Brits' Universal Carrier (also called the Bren Gun Carrier)...

305 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:54:29pm

re: #291 harry91

Was top post on Reddit today, I laughed and then thought again that it really isn't that funny.

I hate it when cartoons do that.

Interesting observation. It does illicit an initial laugh followed by 'that's not funny"

306 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:54:37pm

re: #294 LudwigVanQuixote

Well it is interesting that you say it that way.

If the person is actually making that argument in a way that can be reached, as in "I have heard about no warming... is that rue?"

Then I would say the following.

First off, the assertion is not true. If you look at data from year to year, you will see that the graph is not smooth, rather it waggles around a trend that persists over many years.

If you have a spike in one year, but the next one is a little cooler, that does not mean a reversal of the over all trend.

consider the following set of numbers:

1, 2, 0, 1, 3, 2, 4, 3, 6, 3, 5, 8, 4, 6, 9, 10, 14, 8, 11, 10, 15, 16, 13, 14

If you look at it, towards the beginning, the numbers are around 1 and 2.

Towards the end, anyone can see that the numbers are around 14 and 16.

Clearly there is a significant rise in the numbers. Clearly if you look at the intermediate numbers as well, the over all trend of the series is growth.

This is exactly what we see (as a pattern) in the climate. This is exactly what has happened. For over a century, the temperatures on the planet have been steadily rising over all.

Here is a graph from NOAA to show that this is the case.

[Link: www.ncdc.noaa.gov...]

This is direct data from both satellite and ground based and ocean based sensors, thousands of them from around the world. The data is hard to refute, just like it is hard to argue that the series above is not growing.

However, suppose that you wanted to be completely dishonest and use the data to lie to people who don't know the whole story.

You could pick the end of the series (15, 16, 13, 14) and falsely claim "aha! The sequence is clearly going down!" "We stopped growing when we hit 16!" It's just that this is false and based on a sort of mathematical con called cherry picking. The entire trend of the series has been to grow.

In the past there were spikes that went down only to be overtaken. There is no reason to assume that the trend to growth has stopped other than wishful thinking or a desire to simply lie.

This is particularly the case with AGW and world temperatures because there are all sorts of well understood mechanisms in place that assure us we will keep warming. Those physical realities did not go away when we saw the temperature spike in the past, and they have not now. In fact, they have been exacerbated and sooner or later, the numbers will grow strongly. In fact if you look at the central mean of the numbers for temperatures, spikes and all, you will see not only is the temp growing, but the average rate of growth is itself increasing.

Updinged and favorited. Thank you.

307 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:55:04pm

re: #248 Rightwingconspirator

Read your "rightwing refugee" tag. We might have some good arguments.
I enjoy opponents, not enemies.

308 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:55:05pm

re: #306 Dark_Falcon

Updinged and favorited. Thank you.

You are welcome! I exist to serve!

309 Randall Gross  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:55:30pm

Racist Justice refuses to resign

Youtube Video
310 Achilles Tang  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:55:39pm

re: #276 reine.de.tout

What kind of sick people think they have the right to use up all of those public emergency resources for a publicity stunt in order to get a reality show? The cost, the diverting of resources from real emergencies . . . what must they have been thinking about (well, they weren't obviously).

Can't these parents get a job like everybody else to support the family?

What I noticed most about this event (I happened to be watching TV at the time) was what utter morons the TV commentators are when they don't have a script and have to ad lib for an hour or two.

311 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:55:54pm

re: #308 LudwigVanQuixote

You are welcome! I exist to serve!

I'll have a Vodka Martini, staright up with olives

312 Raryn  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:56:09pm

re: #302 ryannon

Damn Commies

I'd heard about the project before, though if I had a choice I'd rather pay the extra to have my kids taught on an operating system more commonly used than Linux. Just because that's what they'd encounter around here when they grew up.

But if the alternative is no computer, obviously a Linux box is preferable to that.

313 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:56:25pm

re: #309 Thanos

I so wish that cocksucker lived in NYC or something...

314 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:57:48pm

re: #311 sattv4u2

I'll have a Vodka Martini, staright up with olives

Now if only you had said Bombay Sapphire, we could have had a bonding moment...

315 Randall Gross  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:57:53pm

re: #313 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

He still doesn't get it either, you can tell by the interview.

316 BenghaziHoops  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:57:59pm

re: #297 lakerfan

"Can't we all just get along?"

Any time the Lakers suffer and tough loss, I think of Jack Nickelson sitting alone at his kitchen table at 6am, unshaven, robe wide open and an empty bottle of Scotch starring out the window..
It puts a little smile on my face...
*wink*

317 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:58:02pm

re: #293 Raryn
It actually makes sense if you think about it. Every kid gets a laptop, I'm guessing the cost is 150-200 bucks. That laptop will be good for maybe five years or so. Instead of giving them paper textbooks every year you can email them a PDF or give them a disk. I'll bet in the long run it saves the school system money.

318 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:58:33pm

re: #309 Thanos

Racist Justice refuses to resign


[Video]

Then he'll be throw out. I'm sure they'll enjoy hearing about his "persecution" on Stormfront after he's booted.

/spits

319 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:58:45pm

Oh ,, goody ,, theres a movie coming out about the Mayan Calender/ end of the world 2012

320 Daniel Ballard  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:59:00pm

re: #307 Decatur Deb

Me too. Keeps the brain cells firing like a well tuned car.

321 BARACK THE VOTE  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:59:12pm

re: #310 Naso Tang

What I noticed most about this event (I happened to be watching TV at the time) was what utter morons the TV commentators are when they don't have a script and have to ad lib for an hour or two.

That's because they're hired more for their hair than anything else now. It's like that scene in Broadcast News where the idiot William Hurt character is the perfect broadcaster-- so long as Holly Hunter is feeding him the questions to ask-- but the much smarter Albert Brooks can't be one because of his sweating problem.

322 jaunte  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:59:13pm

re: #309 Thanos

What an idiot. He's thinks he's not a racist, he's just protecting potential mixed-race children from racism.

323 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:59:18pm

A classic sock puppet attempt: 'charliefjohnson1'

By a person who previously tried to register: 'charliefjohnson'

324 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:59:21pm

re: #277 lakerfan

Wow! I finally got in!
Go Lakers! (I know it's the wrong season, but anyway...)

ahem ...

325 Soundboard Fez  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:59:24pm

re: #59 thecommodore

I've seen and applaud that. But there aren't many conservatives willing to out the freaks on their side. That's what I'm saying.

Very few on either side will do that. Alan Grayson has been just as over-the-top on healthcare as Palin was, and it's been all applause from the left.

Doing my small part to out kooks on the right has helped me keep my sanity as a center right conservative for years. [RIP clownposse.org].

326 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:59:38pm

re: #314 LudwigVanQuixote

Now if only you had said Bombay Sapphire, we could have had a bonding moment...

yeah ,, thats nice ,,
So,, where's my martini, server???
/

327 lakerfan  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:59:38pm

re: #316 HoosierHoops

Any time the Lakers suffer and tough loss, I think of Jack Nickelson sitting alone at his kitchen table at 6am, unshaven, robe wide open and an empty bottle of Scotch starring out the window..
It puts a little smile on my face...
*wink*

You think he wears a robe?

328 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:59:41pm

re: #310 Naso Tang

Reporter 1...and if you look right there; you will see a mylar balloon.
Reporter 2. Yep, Bill. That mylar.
Reporter 1. Mylar is something they use for balloons.
Reporter 2. Yep balloons.
Reporter 1. Floating right up there.
Reporter 2. Yep. Floating. Up there.
Reporter 1. I got a mylar balloon once; for my birthday.
Reporter 2. Hopefully not from a clown. They're creepy.
etc...

329 ryannon  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:59:51pm

re: #312 Raryn

I'd heard about the project before, though if I had a choice I'd rather pay the extra to have my kids taught on an operating system more commonly used than Linux. Just because that's what they'd encounter around here when they grew up.

But if the alternative is no computer, obviously a Linux box is preferable to that.

It's for kids in places that have never heard of Microsoft, let alone Windows.

And while we're on the subject:

[Link: www.ted.com...]

330 albusteve  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:59:52pm

re: #298 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You are a great poster, you lire: #289 albusteve

I knew however long I waited, I would sound dumb in this crowd... so, well, fools rushed in.

then further I was amazed at how easily one could fit in...I could ask questions or challenge people far brighter than myself and they were always reasonable and friendly, nobody was looking for trouble, just posting away and the legendary FNDT were a total riot...I would laugh myself to tears in those threads...some of the smartest people I ever talked to were and are here at LGF... I did then and still have alot of respect for the elders still here...most are gone now tho

331 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:59:59pm

re: #319 sattv4u2

It looks really bad. Another CGI/special effects piece of crap full of cliches and snappy one liners.

332 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:00:27pm

re: #326 sattv4u2

yeah ,, thats nice ,,
So,, where's my martini, server???
/

Alas, because of your labor practices, I gave it to Freetoken who was more deserving :)

333 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:00:29pm

re: #323 Charles

A classic sock puppet attempt: 'charliefjohnson1'

By a person who previously tried to register: 'charliefjohnson'

I wonder if he has a "2" on his keyboard

You'll soon know!

334 prairiefire  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:00:50pm

re: #267 Bizarro Stormy

Hi, Bizarro Stormy. I had to check on LGF for weeks to hit registration at the right time. I guess I feel more committed to speaking out because of that. Fellow MD here

335 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:00:50pm

re: #319 sattv4u2

Oh ,, goody ,, theres a movie coming out about the Mayan Calender/ end of the world 2012

I'm almost rooting for it.

336 Bizarro Stormy  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:01:31pm

re: #272 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Nice opening...

Thanks :)

I'd been refreshing the front page once every 30 seconds to see if registrations had reopened... and I'm on dial-up, so the page would refresh fully then I'd have to refresh again...

Wheee...!

337 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:01:50pm

re: #332 LudwigVanQuixote

Alas, because of your labor practices, I gave it to Freetoken who was more deserving :)

my "labor practices"

I've been "laboring" for about 40 years now. I've had enough practice and do very well, thankyouverymuch

338 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:02:18pm

Here are the usernames registered tonight, minus 10 sock puppets:

No. of hatchlings: 48

Cowboysfan
how227
thecommodore
AJAX52
MattInNC
whatme
Soundboard Fez
Lidane
Wormwood
XopXproxyX
Bael
theliel
sue_lizard
gsim
ddcf
The Yankee
Woodchuck
buberzionist
Old Gil
Cokezero
Raryn
spinn
Bizarro Stormy
davidindian
LakerFan
jcrawshaw
lemonslice
Phage
Symmetriad
Palmer_Eldritch
Ramzy
Ciceroniana
mandro
deadletterboy
Bazerkly
SilentAlfa
BetterLuck
Ga8dl9i1a9
Babsie
PyroRob
Sarg1086
Virginia Plain
Cloggy
howard2751
mprudow
gent64
East Bay Ray
pdc_lgf

339 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:02:42pm

re: #336 Bizarro Stormy

What is this "dial-up" of which you speak. You coming to us through some time portal?

How's the Kaiser?

340 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:02:51pm

re: #338 Charles

Here are the usernames registered tonight, minus 10 sock puppets:

No. of hatchlings: 48

Cowboysfan
how227
thecommodore
AJAX52
MattInNC
whatme
Soundboard Fez
Lidane
Wormwood
XopXproxyX
Bael
theliel
sue_lizard
gsim
ddcf
The Yankee
Woodchuck
buberzionist
Old Gil
Cokezero
Raryn
spinn
Bizarro Stormy
davidindian
LakerFan
jcrawshaw
lemonslice
Phage
Symmetriad
Palmer_Eldritch
Ramzy
Ciceroniana
mandro
deadletterboy
Bazerkly
SilentAlfa
BetterLuck
Ga8dl9i1a9
Babsie
PyroRob
Sarg1086
Virginia Plain
Cloggy
howard2751
mprudow
gent64
East Bay Ray
pdc_lgf

Welcome all!

341 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:03:14pm

re: #317 Killgore Trout

It actually makes sense if you think about it. Every kid gets a laptop, I'm guessing the cost is 150-200 bucks. That laptop will be good for maybe five years or so. Instead of giving them paper textbooks every year you can email them a PDF or give them a disk. I'll bet in the long run it saves the school system money.

Elder Daughter teaches English and Bio behind the wire at a youth
corrections jail. One of the "Dollar" retailers gave her a grant for
6 Kindles/accounts. They let her keep up with small but rapidly-
shifting student group.

342 Ben G. Hazi  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:03:17pm

re: #323 Charles

A classic sock puppet attempt: 'charliefjohnson1'

By a person who previously tried to register: 'charliefjohnson'

What a maroon!!!

/Bugs Bunny

343 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:03:26pm

COWBOYS FAN! COME SAY "HOWDY"!

344 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:03:56pm

re: #331 Killgore Trout

It looks really bad. Another CGI/special effects piece of crap full of cliches and snappy one liners.

but,, But ,, BUT ,, it's the Mayans , and ,,, John Cusack ... and high waves washing away Chicago and fiery things falling out of the sky and EVERYTHING!

345 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:04:22pm

re: #321 iceweasel

That's because they're hired more for their hair than anything else now. It's like that scene in Broadcast News where the idiot William Hurt character is the perfect broadcaster-- so long as Holly Hunter is feeding him the questions to ask-- but the much smarter Albert Brooks can't be one because of his sweating problem.

Great movie and ohh so true...

Youtube Video
346 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:04:37pm

re: #339 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

What is this "dial-up" of which you speak. You coming to us through some time portal?

How's the Kaiser?

He's on a roll!

347 Raryn  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:04:41pm

re: #329 ryannon

It's for kids in places that have never heard of Microsoft, let alone Windows.

And while we're on the subject:

[Link: www.ted.com...]

Right, thats why I said the Linux boxes are better than nothing. But if we were to do a similar computer project with our own primary schoolers, I'd say that they would be best served with M$ OS's.

348 Achilles Tang  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:04:42pm

re: #323 Charles

A classic sock puppet attempt: 'charliefjohnson1'

By a person who previously tried to register: 'charliefjohnson'

They think you are a computer program. Can't imagine why.

349 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:05:44pm

re: #323 Charles

A classic sock puppet attempt: 'charliefjohnson1'

By a person who previously tried to register: 'charliefjohnson'

Doofus of the Day.

350 Gearhead  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:06:01pm

re: #338 Charles

Ga8dl9i1a9

If that's the user name, I'd hate to see the password.

351 Randall Gross  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:06:05pm

The laptop idea is great. The content is what matters however. If it's filled with Bolivarian revolutionary swill, what's the worth of that?

One of our prime exports in the future needs to be education, you can fit a basic K-12 education on a single chip now. Connected to the network, you can keep that content current.

Education is going to undergo great changes over the next 15 years, and the technophobe homeschoolers aren't going to be able to keep up.

With open content now appearing at several universities, you can also get a college level education minus the diploma on the cheap if you are willing to put in the time.

[Link: ocw.mit.edu...]

352 ryannon  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:06:26pm

re: #347 Raryn

Right, thats why I said the Linux boxes are better than nothing. But if we were to do a similar computer project with our own primary schoolers, I'd say that they would be best served with M$ OS's.

Let them eat Vista.

/

353 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:06:37pm

re: #348 Naso Tang

They think you are a computer program. Can't imagine why.

Because even they know that Charles is too perfect to be merely human!

/kidding, but affectionately so.

354 suchislife  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:08:06pm

re: #325 Soundboard Fez

Alan Grayson has been just as over-the-top on healthcare as Palin was, and it's been all applause from the left.

Yes, he lost me when he actually evoked the holocaust in a health care debate. And not as an example of tea party madness. That's unacceptable. But I would argue that he had a lot more facts and arguments mixed in with the hyperbole then Palin did.

355 John Neverbend  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:08:08pm

re: #350 Gearhead

Ga8dl9i1a9

If that's the user name, I'd hate to see the password.

It's "a".

356 Ben G. Hazi  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:08:32pm

re: #344 sattv4u2

but,, But ,, BUT ,, it's the Mayans , and ,,, John Cusack ... and high waves washing away Chicago and fiery things falling out of the sky and EVERYTHING!

I've only seen the trailers for 2012 and it looks like a turd on ice...it's The Day After Tomorrow without everyone freezing to death.

/gag me with a spoon...

357 ryannon  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:08:45pm

re: #347 Raryn

Right, thats why I said the Linux boxes are better than nothing. But if we were to do a similar computer project with our own primary schoolers, I'd say that they would be best served with M$ OS's.

Let them eat Vista.

/

358 harry91  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:08:46pm

Totally OT


[Link: our.gop.com...]

yyyaaayyy.

Unbelieveable.

359 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:08:47pm

Had a "Jack's Pumpkin Spice Ale" last night.

I loved it. Recommend it.

360 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:09:06pm

re: #351 Thanos

The laptop idea is great. The content is what matters however. If it's filled with Bolivarian revolutionary swill, what's the worth of that?

One of our prime exports in the future needs to be education, you can fit a basic K-12 education on a single chip now. Connected to the network, you can keep that content current.

Education is going to undergo great changes over the next 15 years, and the technophobe homeschoolers aren't going to be able to keep up.

With open content now appearing at several universities, you can also get a college level education minus the diploma on the cheap if you are willing to put in the time.

[Link: ocw.mit.edu...]

One of the best sites ever. I wholly recommend their physics courses, particularly the physics one courses to lay people, because all of the actual lectures and lecture demonstrations are there on web video.

If you like those, you can go for quantum mechanics next :) The beauty of it is then you would, as opposed to the fellow who just read a Deepak Chopra book, actually know what you were talking about and be able to calculate it.

361 Randall Gross  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:09:21pm

re: #338 Charles

A few of those have me going "hrmmm, " however it's great to have another Roxy Music fan

Youtube Video
362 Gearhead  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:09:34pm

re: #323 Charles

A classic sock puppet attempt: 'charliefjohnson1'

By a person who previously tried to register: 'charliefjohnson'

"It's so obvious, he'll know it's you."

"That's just it. It's so obvious, he'll think it can't possibly be me."

/Clousseau

363 BenghaziHoops  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:09:57pm

re: #349 Alouette

Doofus of the Day.


Tom Petty

Hey! dont flounce around here no more
Dont come around here no more
Whatever youre trolling for
Hey! dont flounce around here no more

Ive given up, stop. I ve given up, stop.
Ive given up, stop. on waiting any longer
Ive given up, on this love getting stronger

Dont flounce around here no more
Dont come around here no more

364 Ayeless in Ghazi  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:10:06pm

re: #268 iceweasel

Damn. I should have registered that last one myself.

They say they hate me, but really they looove me...

They just can't get you out of their heads, ice-ski...

Youtube Video
365 Ben G. Hazi  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:10:14pm

re: #344 sattv4u2

but,, But ,, BUT ,, it's the Mayans , and ,,, John Cusack ... and high waves washing away Chicago and fiery things falling out of the sky and EVERYTHING!

I've only seen the trailers for 2012 and it looks like a turd on ice...it's The Day After Tomorrow without everyone freezing to death.

/gag me with a spoon...

366 Bizarro Stormy  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:10:21pm

re: #339 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

What is this "dial-up" of which you speak. You coming to us through some time portal?

How's the Kaiser?

He's on a [B]roll[/B]...

I come to you from the vast metropolis that is Vassalboro Maine... a thriving municipality that has yet to delve into the digital frontier of broadband... at least in my neck of the woods...

367 Sharmuta  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:10:51pm

Here's a good Newbie question:

What do you like to read, and who do you like to read?

And welcome to LGF!

368 Ojoe  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:10:59pm

re: #339 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

T.R. called the Kaiser "An autocratic zig-zag."

BBL

369 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:11:17pm

The Limbaugh flouncers are really getting started now.

370 Kragar  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:11:40pm

re: #365 talon_262

I've only seen the trailers for 2012 and it looks like a turd on ice...it's The Day After Tomorrow without everyone freezing to death.

/gag me with a spoon...

Completely ridiculous looking crap fest.

371 fat bastard vegetarian  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:11:50pm

re: #356 talon_262

I'm a sucker for CGI. I'll see it. Just like Day After... ignore the story... wait on the cool shit.

372 John Neverbend  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:11:50pm

re: #362 Gearhead

"It's so obvious, he'll know it's you."

"That's just it. It's so obvious, he'll think it can't possibly be me."

/Clousseau

I think that's an example of a schmockpuppet.

373 ryannon  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:12:40pm

Sorry for the double post!

Sorry for the double post!

374 Randall Gross  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:12:42pm

re: #358 harry91

Totally OT

[Link: our.gop.com...]

yyyaaayyy.

Unbelieveable.

Arggg

375 Virginia Plain  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:12:50pm

Hello all, my name is Virginia Plain. Guess what song that refers to? If you don't know, I'll post the video below.

I've been reading since 2006 and I am glad that this blog is consistent in its views and not hypocritical like Hot Air and others. Those same blogs that are going coo coo for cocoa puffs now used to criticize Daily Kos for its craziness. Glad to see that LGF did not go there.

What's her name?

Youtube Video
376 fat bastard vegetarian  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:12:54pm

re: #366 Bizarro Stormy

Funny, as soon as I gave you crap? My wireless went all wonky.

377 suchislife  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:13:47pm

re: #358 harry91

well. [Link: www.dailykos.com...]

378 Randall Gross  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:13:51pm

re: #375 Virginia Plain

Heh, keep up. I already posted that. Welcome.

379 Rustler  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:13:54pm

re: #334 prairiefire

I was rustling my dad's account for months before I finally got in.

380 Ben G. Hazi  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:14:08pm

re: #356 talon_262

re: #365 talon_262

Sorry for the double post...Firefox went a little wonky on me and I didn't see that my original post went through, so I posted it again.

381 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:14:32pm

re: #375 Virginia Plain

Upding for being a child of the eighties with good taste.

382 fat bastard vegetarian  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:14:38pm

Tried "Jack's Pumpkin Spice Ale" last night. Forgettable, but okay. Too expensive. But a nice Autumny feel to it.

Let the beer wars begin...

383 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:15:13pm

Have any of the wingnut blogs figured out how to blame President Obama for the balloon boy hoax yet?

You know it's coming.

384 fat bastard vegetarian  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:15:13pm

re: #379 Rustler

FLUFFY!

385 ryannon  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:15:56pm

re: #361 Thanos

A few of those have me going "hrmmm, " however it's great to have another Roxy Music fan


[Video]

That makes three of us

Youtube Video
386 Bizarro Stormy  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:16:21pm

re: #376 fat bastard vegetarian

Funny, as soon as I gave you crap? My wireless went all wonky.

My control over the interweb tubes knows no bounds...

387 Raryn  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:16:41pm

re: #357 ryannon

Let them eat Vista.

/

Ignoring the fact that the quote you're alluding to (Let them eat cake) is usually misattributed and misunderstood on top of that, I did not say in any way shape or form that the students in poor undeveloped countries should be using Microsoft software. What I did say is that if we were to start a program in America for our own kids (which would be a good idea, though probably not the most pressing educational reform on the agenda), we would probably be best served by educating them on the computers that they would almost certainly be using after they graduated. We have the luck to live a country prosperous enough that we would not necessarily have to go for the cheapest option if we implemented a laptop program.

Obviously countries that do not have that good fortune (e.g. Uruguay) do the best for their children that they can, and should be applauded for that.

388 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:16:50pm

re: #372 John Neverbend

I think that's an example of a schmockpuppet.

Contrast and compare:

Shmockpuppet
Schmuckpuppet

389 prairiefire  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:16:56pm

re: #321 iceweasel

It is absolutely liker that. I hope that Albert Brooks will be remembered as the brilliant commentator on the human condition that he is

390 BenghaziHoops  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:17:12pm

re: #388 Decatur Deb

Contrast and compare:

Shmockpuppet
Schmuckpuppet

sockit2me

391 BARACK THE VOTE  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:17:25pm

re: #364 Jimmah

They just can't get you out of their heads, ice-ski...


[Video]

I love that you made that. My favourite part is the way the bounty name now reads Iceweasel on the screen. And I've always loved that song of course!

392 John Neverbend  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:17:40pm

re: #371 fat bastard vegetarian

I'm a sucker for CGI. I'll see it. Just like Day After... ignore the story... wait on the cool shit.

Last night, I came across a relative of yours on Youtube, one "Fat German Bastard", with no indication of whether he was carnivorous or vegetarian. He has a remarkable 10 minute video during which he exposes the fallacy in a modal logic proof of the existence of God.

393 harry91  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:17:45pm

re: #377 suchislife

But the word I hate is unpatriotic, they are misinformed. When your total worldview comes from Crazy Uncle Beck then you are bound to be a bit crazy.

However, the ideas are becoming more and more radical which, as we all know, never ends well.

394 John Neverbend  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:18:26pm

re: #388 Decatur Deb

Contrast and compare:

Shmockpuppet
Schmuckpuppet

The first is British, the second American.

395 Virginia Plain  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:18:48pm

re: #378 Thanos

Heh, keep up. I already posted that. Welcome.

Sweet, another Roxy fan. Not that many people in the US know who they are, which is a shame. Bryan Ferry is teh awesome.

396 Virginia Plain  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:19:17pm

re: #385 ryannon

That makes three of us


And another one.

397 Ben G. Hazi  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:19:30pm

re: #390 HoosierHoops

sockit2me

Loved the Nixon Laugh-In bit: "Sock it to...me?!?"

;-P

398 John Neverbend  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:19:46pm

re: #395 Virginia Plain

Sweet, another Roxy fan. Not that many people in the US know who they are, which is a shame. Bryan Ferry is teh awesome.

I remember when Roxy music were big. My sister ran out and bought Virginia Plain on a 45 rpm record.

399 BARACK THE VOTE  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:20:03pm

re: #383 Charles

Have any of the wingnut blogs figured out how to blame President Obama for the balloon boy hoax yet?

You know it's coming.

"If Obama hadn't destroyed the economy, people wouldn't be hatching such hare-brained schemes for money!"

"The balloon family are libs. Like all libs, they want something for nothing. Obama is their socialist god."

"The balloon boy hoax was carefully orchestrated to distract us all from the real reason Denver Int'l Airport was closed-- Obama was meeting with our lizard alien overlords."

I'm sure folks here will come up with more...

400 fat bastard vegetarian  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:20:35pm

re: #386 Bizarro Stormy

Like you already.

401 Soundboard Fez  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:21:00pm

re: #70 Killgore Trout

Glad to have an RnF fan here! I loved Ron's take on Glenn Beck on Thursday's show. I've tried to turn on the folks here to Donnie Dunphy and nobody's digging him yet.

I haven't been able to tune in for some time because you pretty much have to disassemble my car (Saab) to get the XM to work. I miss R&F badly.

402 Ayeless in Ghazi  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:21:06pm

re: #383 Charles

Have any of the wingnut blogs figured out how to blame President Obama for the balloon boy hoax yet?

You know it's coming.

The whole Presidency is a hoax. So why is anyone surprised when ordinary Americans start pulling hoaxes themselves? They're just following in the footsteps of their messiah///

403 ryannon  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:21:12pm

re: #387 Raryn

Ignoring the fact that the quote you're alluding to (Let them eat cake) is usually misattributed and misunderstood on top of that, I did not say in any way shape or form that the students in poor undeveloped countries should be using Microsoft software. What I did say is that if we were to start a program in America for our own kids (which would be a good idea, though probably not the most pressing educational reform on the agenda), we would probably be best served by educating them on the computers that they would almost certainly be using after they graduated. We have the luck to live a country prosperous enough that we would not necessarily have to go for the cheapest option if we implemented a laptop program.
Obviously countries that do not have that good fortune (e.g. Uruguay) do the best for their children that they can, and should be applauded for that.

Right.

sigh.

404 FrogMarch  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:21:20pm

Fascinating new research on what spiders do on drugs.
Really educational.

Spiders on Drugs

405 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:21:26pm

re: #394 John Neverbend

The first is British, the second American.

Is true? I thought it was a play off "mock".

406 Plato  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:21:40pm

I feel like one of the prisoners at Shawshank Prison when the new busses pull up.

Be good little boys and girls. This is a tough room.

407 Bizarro Stormy  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:23:01pm

re: #400 fat bastard vegetarian

Like you already.

Well... that makes you and my Golden Retriever...

My fan club overflowth...

408 anno  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:23:09pm

I happened to see the wife swap episode with the balloon boy family and it was comical. The father was trying to contact aliens but laughed and mocked a the psychic swap mom relentlessly. By the end of the show, he was a converted psychic believer through hypnotism and seance. He's friggin out there.

409 erraticsphinx  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:25:18pm

re: #402 Jimmah

Heh, that's the one that will be settled on eventually.

410 Kronocide  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:25:25pm

I looove working Sundays reprogramming the office voicemail system. Means I'll have to go to the Brewery for lunch...

411 suchislife  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:25:52pm

re: #393 harry91

I posted it for the poll, not for the opinion piece. But you know, that is very much a reaction to years of the other side saying this. I mean, you would probably agree that unpatriotic is more of a right wing insult, right? I don't like or use it, myself. Although I'm not sure why saying a world view is due to ignorance and being brain washed by demagogues would make it less unpatriotic, if that's something you are concerned with.

412 John Neverbend  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:25:58pm

re: #405 Decatur Deb

Is true? I thought it was a play off "mock".

Yes, it's true. I also recall hearing a Russian-Israeli saying "schmock", so maybe it's a Euro-Middle Eastern thing.

413 fat bastard vegetarian  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:26:30pm

re: #407 Bizarro Stormy

Nothing personal... just want to let you know...
Other than popping off the pirates, my favorite thing that President Obama has done is...

OUT-LAWING CLOVE CIGARETTES!

414 Wozza Matter?  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:27:10pm

re: #388 Decatur Deb

the first is a sock wearing a modest garment of some sort
the second is is a meshuggahnah Yiddish puppet of the sock variety

415 flywheel  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:27:13pm

re: #383 Charles

Or maybe Rush?
//

416 fat bastard vegetarian  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:27:30pm

re: #408 anno

Seriously? You watched that?

417 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:27:44pm

I've decided on this recipe: Green Tomato Chutney: for my first even canning experiment tomorrow. I'm going to invest in some small jars on Monday and give it a shot.

418 Velvet Elvis  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:28:12pm

re: #387 Raryn

Ignoring the fact that the quote you're alluding to (Let them eat cake) is usually misattributed and misunderstood on top of that, I did not say in any way shape or form that the students in poor undeveloped countries should be using Microsoft software. What I did say is that if we were to start a program in America for our own kids (which would be a good idea, though probably not the most pressing educational reform on the agenda), we would probably be best served by educating them on the computers that they would almost certainly be using after they graduated. We have the luck to live a country prosperous enough that we would not necessarily have to go for the cheapest option if we implemented a laptop program.

Obviously countries that do not have that good fortune (e.g. Uruguay) do the best for their children that they can, and should be applauded for that.

On the other hand, Linux provides the opportunity to learn a lot more about computers and networking than Windows does. It leaves its guts hanging open where you can stick your hands and there and fiddle with stuff while Microsoft software is a black box..

419 The Sanity Inspector  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:29:11pm

re: #31 Charles

I may start requiring people who register to post at least one comment immediately after registering to introduce themselves. If they don't post a comment within an hour, their account would be blocked.

Haven't decided on this for sure yet.

I can envision a scenario where someone has set up an email alert or something to inform them when a registration thread is happening. Maybe they hurriedly register on their mobile device, but can't get free of other responsibilities--in a meeting, rushing to the airport gate, etc.,--to post just then. I recommend giving them til the end of the day, if you're going to go that route.

420 anno  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:29:11pm

yep. it was a great train wreck to stop for. Very entertaining.

421 suchislife  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:29:41pm

re: #411 suchislife

And when they say they want to secede, calling them unpatriotic is not all that unreasonable.

422 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:29:52pm

re: #413 fat bastard vegetarian

Nothing personal... just want to let you know...
Other than popping off the pirates, my favorite thing that President Obama has done is...

OUT-LAWING CLOVE CIGARETTES!

You might be featured in the next Skoalrebel video.

(Still not ready to post video links, not that I'd start with that.)

423 Bizarro Stormy  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:30:04pm

re: #334 prairiefire

Hi, Bizarro Stormy.Fellow MD here...

Hey prairiefire :)

Sorry I missed your message... this place moves fast...

Looks as tough we found a shelter from the insanity on both sides huh...

424 Velvet Elvis  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:30:31pm

re: #413 fat bastard vegetarian

Nothing personal... just want to let you know...
Other than popping off the pirates, my favorite thing that President Obama has done is...

OUT-LAWING CLOVE CIGARETTES!

Thanks you. Those things make my head hurt a mile away.

425 prairiefire  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:31:09pm

re: #275 Ramzy

Fun-Ny

426 harry91  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:31:38pm

re: #411 suchislife

I justr think that the term "unpatriotic" is a sad reflection of our society. I agree it's used by both sides and it sickens me.

.

427 Ayeless in Ghazi  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:31:40pm

re: #391 iceweasel

I love that you made that. My favourite part is the way the bounty name now reads Iceweasel on the screen. And I've always loved that song of course!

Heh - was easy to set up. The dialogue on that encounter was just perfect :)

Speaking of good music...

Youtube Video
428 Soundboard Fez  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:32:12pm

re: #367 Sharmuta

Here's a good Newbie question:

What do you like to read, and who do you like to read?

And welcome to LGF!

I like to read pulpy mysteries and thrillers -- big on my list the last year have been all the Lee Child books, Randy Wayne Wright, Phillip Margolin, Brian Freeman.

I do most of my political reading online. Most of the top-selling political books come from pundits that I despise. Online, I've lurked here a bit. Wildturkeys is a quiet, cool little center-right nook. I post at darwin central under this name, but the opposition derangement has set in a little too deep for my tastes.

429 prairiefire  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:32:29pm

re: #385 ryannon

Avalon is one of the greatest albums evah

430 Bizarro Stormy  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:34:21pm

re: #413 fat bastard vegetarian

my favorite thing that President Obama has done is...

OUT-LAWING CLOVE CIGARETTES!

Dems fighting words...!

Well... at least he saved me 40 bucks a week in clove cancer sticks...

431 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:34:49pm

re: #385 ryannon

That makes three of us


It took this song being on the Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories soundtrack for me to hear it. Glad I heard it, because it's really good.

432 Raryn  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:35:11pm

re: #412 John Neverbend

Yes, it's true. I also recall hearing a Russian-Israeli saying "schmock", so maybe it's a Euro-Middle Eastern thing.

hmm, shmuck is Yiddish, so I wouldn't be surprised if thats not something similar. Yiddish has so many fun words that its a pity the language has declined so much.

433 Sharmuta  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:35:15pm

re: #417 Killgore Trout

I've decided on this recipe: Green Tomato Chutney: for my first even canning experiment tomorrow. I'm going to invest in some small jars on Monday and give it a shot.

Cool- you should write something up, and send it to Reine for the cookbook blog.

434 Wozza Matter?  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:38:24pm

re: #367 Sharmuta

seeing as i joined in the batch before this and am still really rather green around the gills here...

I read the Economist Magazine, Monocle Magazine, the Guardian Newspaper, wingnut blogs, netroots blogs, occasionally the New Scientist.

Recent fiction books i have utterly enjoyed (and recomend to all)-
Miachael Chabon - Yiddish Policemans Union
GeLing Yang - The Uninvited
Nancy Kress - Beggars In Spain

I re-read most Robert Heinleinns, John Grishams, Terry Pratchetts and Ian Rankins.

435 Wozza Matter?  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:39:08pm

re: #432 Raryn

upding for Yiddish language love.

436 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:41:14pm

We were talking upthread about the value of the registration thread
for practice. I just found the "new comments" button at the end of
the thread, and solved half of the problem slowing responses. Sure
beats hitting "refresh/jump".

437 John Neverbend  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:43:17pm

re: #432 Raryn

hmm, shmuck is Yiddish, so I wouldn't be surprised if thats not something similar. Yiddish has so many fun words that its a pity the language has declined so much.

So is schmock. I suspect it may be a Litvak/Polak pronunciation difference, like cholent and choolent, bobba and booba.

438 suchislife  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:44:03pm

re: #436 Decatur Deb

I never saw this on any other blog and I think it's brilliant. I've never known an easier to use blog the lgf.

439 Stuart Leviton  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:44:38pm

re: #385 ryannon

That makes threefour of us

Yea Roxy Music, though I never did quite understand why Brian Ferry is comparing the beautiful Sophie Ward to a hawk. Is he trying to say a bird in hand is better than two in the ... oh never mind.

440 suchislife  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:45:16pm

re: #438 suchislife

I'll have to start using preview. I meant "than lgf."

441 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:45:37pm

re: #438 suchislife

I never saw this on any other blog and I think it's brilliant. I've never known an easier to use blog the lgf.

All of the code that drives the LGF blog was written by three people: me, myself, and I.

442 John Neverbend  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:46:36pm

re: #428 Soundboard Fez

I post at darwin central under this name, but the opposition derangement has set in a little too deep for my tastes.

I'm not familiar with that blog, although I just looked at it. What is the opposition derangement that you mentioned?

443 Wozza Matter?  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:47:17pm

re: #436 Decatur Deb

the "spy" function via the magnifying glass is a good way of making almost instantaneous reposnses. Does take a little getting used to though as the thread moves in real time - you also need to visit individual comments to ding them.

444 Raryn  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:47:50pm

re: #441 Charles

All of the code that drives the LGF blog was written by three people, me, myself, and I.

It works so well. The other blog I try and read daily is Pharyngula, and the problems that Seed has with its registration system are absolutely ridiculous

445 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:48:04pm

re: #438 suchislife

I never saw this on any other blog and I think it's brilliant. I've never known an easier to use blog the lgf.

I've been lurking a lot of blogs (retired). LGF should be the standard for
"fit and feel".

446 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:53:39pm

re: #443 wozzablog

Yes--it was the need to return to ding that kept me bouncing around.

447 suchislife  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:56:46pm

re: #445 Decatur Deb

I lurked for a bit on Swampland, the political blog of Time. I never registered, but it was obvious they had the worst comment section. People had to seperate paragraphs with a
.
just so it was even readable. And they are a major magazin! I don't know if it was contempt for the commentors or incompetence.

448 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 6:57:50pm

re: #366 Bizarro Stormy

"I'm Bizarro Stormy!"

"I'm regular Stormy!"

Love me some Sealab 2021. :D

449 Bizarro Stormy  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 7:02:26pm

re: #448 WindUpBird

Love me some Sealab 2021. :D

Awesome... another fan... ;)

Check out my Sealab MP3s if ya'd like...

Sealab MP3s...

450 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 7:19:25pm

Off to sleep. Welcome again to all.

451 Symmetriad  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 7:30:13pm

re: #367 Sharmuta

Here's a good Newbie question:

What do you like to read, and who do you like to read?

And welcome to LGF!

Figured I'd comply with the unofficial "post immediately" concept...

Googling my username will lead you to a favorite author - Stanislaw Lem. Fond of Jared Diamond, Richard Dawkins, Carl Sagan. And I wish everyone who ever thought it was possible to bring Western Democracy to Afghanistan or Iraq would read Rory Stewart's books.

I mostly reside on the lefty side, but appreciate the civility and respect for logic and evidence I see ascendant here (e.g., AGW). I'm mostly a lurker, but might chime in occasionally. My favorite political blog ever is Obsidian Wings - precisely for the civility, wit, and high signal to noise ratio. It's been a pleasant revelation to see a similar atmosphere here, with a good cross-section of opinions. I hope you can sustain this - it's notoriously difficult...

452 Wozza Matter?  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 7:43:20pm

good night everyone

453 prairiefire  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 7:44:53pm

re: #413 fat bastard vegetarian

Don't those put holes in your lungs?

454 Symmetriad  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 7:46:39pm

re: #382 fat bastard vegetarian

Tried "Jack's Pumpkin Spice Ale" last night. Forgettable, but okay. Too expensive. But a nice Autumny feel to it.

Let the beer wars begin...

Haven't had it, though I give Anheuser-Busch credit for trying something in the style. I like Dogfish Head Punkin though...

455 prairiefire  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 7:47:50pm

re: #423 Bizarro Stormy

Hopefully...Very intelligent and conversational at the very least...

456 Babsie  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 7:53:23pm

G'day.

457 Ojoe  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 7:58:32pm

re: #441 Charles

"Reasonably competent computer enthusiast!"

458 Soundboard Fez  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 8:08:01pm

re: #442 John Neverbend

I'm not familiar with that blog, although I just looked at it. What is the opposition derangement that you mentioned?

There are a lot of brilliant posters there -- it's a lot of ex-Freepers who were disappeared by the majority creationist faction in creation-evolution threads there.

But ODS has set in hard. Every other word is now "Marxist" or "fascist" which IMO is a vast overstatement of the current threat. There was just a 30-ish page thread on Beck that is worth reading to get an idea of the current mentality.

459 mikhailtheplumber  Sun, Oct 18, 2009 9:00:38pm

How many flounces/socks so far?

460 [deleted]  Tue, Oct 20, 2009 2:15:11am

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