Robert Stacy McCain’s Neo-Nazi Friend Will Remain in Jail

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Bill White, the neo-Nazi freakazoid who threatened me and tried to find my home address and the addresses of my family to post them on his hate site overthrow.com, is going to remain in jail in Virginia until his December trial, according to the Roanoke Times.

A federal appeals court ruled today that neo-Nazi leader William A. White should remain in jail, calling him “a highly intelligent person apparently dedicated to having various persons killed.” …

in asking that White be held without bond, federal prosecutors have pointed to his writings on his now-defunct Web site, which he used as the primary outlet for his Roanoke-based white supremacy organization.

White wrote in one post of fighting the urge every morning to “kill, kill, kill.” In another passage on overthrow.com, he described a “very intricate plot for the murder of about a score of Roanoke’s Negro nuisances and their annoying counterparts at The Roanoke Times.”

Bill White is also infamous for being a friend of white supremacist blogger Robert Stacy McCain. When McCain worked at the Washington Times, he got several articles by White published in the newspaper. McCain also linked to White’s neo-Nazi hate site overthrow.com at Free Republic, using the pseudonym “BurkeCalhounDabney.”

Here are the LGF posts documenting Robert Stacy McCain’s connections to Bill White:

Robert Stacy McCain’s Angry Departure From the Washington Times
The Other ‘Other McCain’
Robert Stacy McCain’s Latest Excuse

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87 comments
1 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 10:02:10pm

Jail is where he belongs. He’s a menace.

2 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 10:02:14pm

How come I do not find this a tragedy?

3 Cato the Elder  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 10:02:51pm

And people wonder why I’ve never trusted the Washington Times.

4 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 10:04:59pm

re: #1 Sharmuta

re: #3 Cato the Elder

Yeah go figure. What astonishes me the most about the wing nut sphere is how they can be given evidence after evidence of who RSMcCain is, who his cronies are, and yet they do not care.

That would mean that either:

1. They know and do not care

2. They know and they support him.

Either way it shows what scum they are.

5 bosforus  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 10:05:01pm

A good night’s sleep can be had at the lizard home base.

6 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 10:05:54pm

Sad, icky people now appear to be where they belong.
In jail.
Without bail.

Big on FAIL!

7 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 10:06:07pm

re: #5 bosforus

Unless you’re put off by nitrogen-filled subterranian bunkers for some reason.
/

8 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 10:09:15pm

Well Good!

I don’t understand why someone would go to so much trouble —simply for disagreeing.

9 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 10:09:24pm

Goodnight, dear lizards.
Stay scaly.
See you tomorrow!

10 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 10:10:10pm

I wonder if he has a ‘buddy’ in jail?

11 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 10:10:35pm

re: #9 Floral Giraffe

Goodnight, dear lizards.
Stay scaly.
See you tomorrow!


Me too. Time for bed. Nite folks…

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12 Randall Gross  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 10:10:54pm

Good news. Probably the only good thing that Bill White’s ever done in his life was through spite. He outed the Sala Thai meetings.

13 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 10:10:56pm

re: #9 Floral Giraffe

Goodnight, dear lizards.
Stay scaly.
See you tomorrow!

Good night, FG. Don’t sleep too deeply, lions love to pounce on sleeping giraffes.

/kidding

14 Pepper Fox  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 10:13:13pm

It’s good to see some news about our justice system working.

15 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 10:14:27pm

re: #10 NJDhockeyfan

I wonder if he has a ‘buddy’ in jail?

It would depend. He’d probably be OK in prison, the Aryan gangs would recognize him as one of their own.

I hate Virgina Nazis.

16 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 10:14:56pm

re: #6 Floral Giraffe

Sad, icky people now appear to be where they belong.
In jail.
Without bail.

Big on FAIL!

On the head
You hit the nail

17 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 10:15:48pm

weet dreams all!

18 Cato the Elder  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 10:18:03pm

Bill White.

The first picture seems to be from a birthday bash for Schicklgruber, whose portrait here makes him look quite as moronic as he was. They think it’s a compliment to their Dear Leader.

19 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 10:19:18pm

re: #10 NJDhockeyfan

Impossible to say, without knowledge of the county. Jail is a different beast than prison. Sometimes better, sometimes worse.

20 Velvet Elvis  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 10:22:20pm

OT: Here’s a fascinating read on the social engineering projects Americans tried in Afghanistan during the mid 20th century.

[Link: www.bbc.co.uk…]

21 Cato the Elder  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 10:22:33pm

re: #19 Slumbering Behemoth

Impossible to say, without knowledge of the county. Jail is a different beast than prison. Sometimes better, sometimes worse.

Since rape is a tacitly accepted part of the punishment meted out in our jails and prisons, I’d say White either has someone guarding him or he’s in trouble.

22 ryannon  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 10:22:55pm

re: #18 Cato the Elder

Bill White.

The first picture seems to be from a birthday bash for Schicklgruber, whose portrait here makes him look quite as moronic as he was. They think it’s a compliment to their Dear Leader.

An angry little White-man.

Quite nauseating, really.

23 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 10:24:26pm

re: #21 Cato the Elder

Depends on the county, really. Some county jails are worse than prison, some are better than group homes.

24 pdc_lgf  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 10:25:32pm

Goodnight all.

25 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 10:32:09pm

Aww, now isn’t that just too damn bad.
Sucks to be him I guess.

/

26 Cokezero  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 10:32:54pm

This reminds me of this story that was leading the news when I randomly found myself in Roanoke this July:

[Link: www.roanoke.com…]

Friends of Whites, i’m guessing.

27 Killgore Trout  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 10:33:54pm

All your Nazis are belong to us.

28 Bagua  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 10:33:55pm

re: #21 Cato the Elder

Since rape is a tacitly accepted part of the punishment meted out in our jails and prisons, I’d say White either has someone guarding him or he’s in trouble.

Excellent observation Cato.

Yet we as a society agonize and debate endlessly over the alleged torture of a couple of known terrorists, there is widespread acceptance of the widespread rape and abuse convicts experience when under our custody,

29 Irenicum  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 10:35:39pm

re: #3 Cato the Elder

Any “news’ paper owned by Sun Myung Moon is not to be trusted. The only reason it got accepted in certain quarters is that it parroted right wing talking points. But at what cost?

30 Velvet Elvis  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 10:35:51pm

re: #21 Cato the Elder

Since rape is a tacitly accepted part of the punishment meted out in our jails and prisons, I’d say White either has someone guarding him or he’s in trouble.

I’ve read that that’s actually something of an urban myth and instances of rape in prison are fairly rare.

31 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 10:38:01pm

re: #27 Killgore Trout

All your Nazis are belong to us.

As long as you Cats promise to only employ them to clean your litter boxes, take them with our blessings.

/For Great Justice!

32 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 10:38:53pm

re: #30 Conservative Moonbat

So who among you is willing to do some firsthand research?

33 Velvet Elvis  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 10:40:51pm

re: #32 Fenway_Nation

So who among you is willing to do some firsthand research?

I’m sure there’s enough other things about prison that I’d find not to my liking that I’ll have to pass on that opportunity.

34 Irenicum  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 10:41:30pm

re: #18 Cato the Elder

Wow, what a fashion challenged asshole. And evil to boot! This is who the other McCain associated with? OY! All I can say is, let those prison bars be his friends for a long, long time!

35 Bagua  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 10:41:56pm

re: #30 Conservative Moonbat

I’ve read that that’s actually something of an urban myth and instances of rape in prison are fairly rare.

Define “fairly rare.”

According to the December 2007 Special Report by the Bureau of Justice Statistics the number of State and Federal prisoners reporting sexual victimization, 2007 states that 60,500 or 4.5% reported that they were victimized.

In general, this sort of thing is widely regarded as being under-reported for a variety of reasons.

National Institute of Justice

36 Randall Gross  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 10:44:08pm

Time for me to get some sleeps, goodnite all

NGC 6240 in 60 Seconds

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37 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 10:47:27pm

re: #32 Fenway_Nation

Your turn, dude. I’m still smarting from that time you threw a half eaten frogurt at that motorcycle cop then pointed at me.
/

38 Velvet Elvis  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 10:50:50pm

re: #35 Bagua

I stand corrected.

39 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 10:52:49pm

re: #37 Slumbering Behemoth

No need…I think there’s enough research materiel to draw an independent and unbiased conclusion from my extensive collection of ‘Girls Behind Bars’ DVDs.

40 suchislife  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 10:55:50pm

re: #30 Conservative Moonbat

re: #35 Bagua

Interesting.
What always gets me is how this is often just a punch line in conversation, and that those jokes are often mixed with some vague homophobia. “Oh, so he went to prison for theft, wonder what they’ll steal from him in the showers, hehehe!” I can’t understand that. Do these people think it is widespread, but they don’t care, or do they think it’s hysteria and mock it because of that?

41 suchislife  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 10:57:16pm

re: #40 suchislife

Would they find it as funny if it was heterosexual rape and abuse?

42 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 10:58:22pm

OT: Obechi, a clever little game that seems easy…at first.
(warning massive time suckage may result)

[Link: www.buzzfeed.com…]

43 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 10:59:05pm

re: #39 Fenway_Nation

No need…I think there’s enough research materiel to draw an independent and unbiased conclusion from my extensive collection of ‘Girls Behind Bars’ DVDs.

SMACK!

44 Bagua  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 11:01:55pm

re: #40 suchislife

re: #35 Bagua

Interesting.
What always gets me is how this is often just a punch line in conversation, and that those jokes are often mixed with some vague homophobia. “Oh, so he went to prison for theft, wonder what they’ll steal from him in the showers, hehehe!” I can’t understand that. Do these people think it is widespread, but they don’t care, or do they think it’s hysteria and mock it because of that?

Exactly, and I’ve heard some similar snide remarks, which equal approval, from those who have a fit of the vapours at the suggestion that a couple terrorists may have been abused.

Yet regarding convicts, US citizens convicted of crimes and in US custody and even just the accused and presumed innocent, well no problem if tens of thousands are being raped, beaten, and abused.

45 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 11:03:27pm

Most every one has likely seen the latest “Drunk Guy” video making the rounds on the internet, but have they seen him getting the Silent Treatment?

46 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 11:04:19pm

re: #44 Bagua

Exactly, and I’ve heard some similar snide remarks, which equal approval, from those who have a fit of the vapours at the suggestion that a couple terrorists may have been abused.

Yet regarding convicts, US citizens convicted of crimes and in US custody and even just the accused and presumed innocent, well no problem if tens of thousands are being raped, beaten, and abused.

They only care about the terrorists to use them as a bludgeon against the US.

/bastards

47 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 11:05:58pm

re: #44 Bagua

Yea…pretty interesting and hypocritical double-standard there.

48 suchislife  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 11:10:36pm

re: #44 Bagua

I do think that most thoughtful liberals who are concerned about the rights of terrorist suspects also oppose regular prison abuse. And there is such a lot of legitimate cause for outrage in the world that I can see how one would follow the crowd, mostly. And ultimately I don’t believe in the critizism, “But why didn’t you take up my cause instead of the one you chose to get excited about.”
That said, I’ve thought the exact same thing a lot lately. It’s deeply anoying how some problems are “sexy” and others aren’t. And all too often the sexy has a lot to do with contentiousness, thus ensuring that people often fight primarily for the thing the other side will vehemently oppose, instead of taking care of common projects first.

49 Irenicum  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 11:11:12pm

OT/
This is a fascinating poll among ‘evangelical’ professors at seminaries regarding their views concerning their faith and evolution. At least among those who chose to respond fully, 46% said they accept evolutionary biology as accurate to how the current state of physical affairs came about. This is actually quite promising. The folks on the ground , I don’t think, are there yet (to say the least). But this survey explicitly points out the difference between OEC (old earth creationsim) and EC (evolutionary creationism), which distinguishes between those who acknowledge an old earth, but who deny the macro-evolutionary process, and those who acknowledge both an old earth and the macro-evolutionary process. The last option allows for that view. That’s where the 46% becomes more important. It’s still small in comparison to the scientific community (obviously). But it’s a helluva lot better than the obscurantists that get the most publicity. As an EC (evolutionary creationist), this is very promising. And with that, have a great evolving lizardian night. Sleep beckons.

50 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 11:13:34pm

I’ve got an AM shift so I need to get to bed. Everyone get a good nights sleep, and I’ll see you tomorrow evening.

51 Irenicum  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 11:14:07pm

re: #50 Dark_Falcon

G’nite!

52 suchislife  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 11:17:21pm

re: #46 Dark_Falcon

re: #47 Fenway_Nation

Please don’t get this fixed in your mind as another example of the hypocrisy and the America-hate of the left, unless you can actually show that either the left in general are more or equally dismissive of prison abuse, or show quotes by influential people dismissing one while critizising the other.
Otherwise, I find it sad but not deplorable that people would jump on the new thing, and not on the old and established outrage. It’s shortsighted and sensationalist, but I don’t see evidence that it is motivated by hypocrisy or hate for America. Don’t stereotype the left.

53 suchislife  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 11:18:28pm

re: #50 Dark_Falcon

Good night!

54 freetoken  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 11:18:51pm

re: #49 Irenicum

re: #50 Dark_Falcon


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55 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 11:19:05pm

Chimpanzee
Roller-skates
Jack Daniel’s
Lynyrd Skynyrd

What do these things have in common?

56 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 11:19:31pm

re: #50 Dark_Falcon


G’nite!

57 Irenicum  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 11:21:10pm

re: #54 freetoken

Not exactly Gene Autry, but I loved it!

58 suchislife  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 11:22:16pm

re: #54 freetoken

The song links are one of my favorite things on LGF. I much prefer it to the overuse of puppies and cats elsewhere.

59 Irenicum  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 11:22:50pm

re: #57 Irenicum

And btw, I say g’nite as an aspiration, not an immediate reality.

60 Gus  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 11:23:27pm

I looked under a rock and what did I see? Bill White and “Burke Calhoun Dabney.”

61 freetoken  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 11:23:36pm

re: #57 Irenicum

re: #58 suchislife

Thanks, but you two are encouraging me… the others may not be so happy with that…

Irenicum - I think you meant these two:

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62 Irenicum  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 11:24:42pm

re: #61 freetoken

Yep, you’re right. That’s scary!

63 Irenicum  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 11:25:29pm

re: #62 Irenicum

And I’m officially impressed! That’s fast!

64 freetoken  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 11:27:25pm

re: #63 Irenicum

It’s all done with the magic of computers…

65 Irenicum  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 11:27:49pm

re: #61 freetoken

I love how it ends with the clip clops!

66 freetoken  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 11:29:24pm

re: #65 Irenicum

Yeah… those cowboys… and since you mentioned one of the better known screen cowboys, Gene Autry, it reminded me of his most popular song… which, coincidentally is about Christmas:

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67 Bagua  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 11:31:40pm

re: #48 suchislife

I do think that most thoughtful liberals who are concerned about the rights of terrorist suspects also oppose regular prison abuse. And there is such a lot of legitimate cause for outrage in the world that I can see how one would follow the crowd, mostly. And ultimately I don’t believe in the critizism, “But why didn’t you take up my cause instead of the one you chose to get excited about.”
That said, I’ve thought the exact same thing a lot lately. It’s deeply anoying how some problems are “sexy” and others aren’t. And all too often the sexy has a lot to do with contentiousness, thus ensuring that people often fight primarily for the thing the other side will vehemently oppose, instead of taking care of common projects first.

Agreed, I do not put this out as a broad based indictment of any group, rather it is an observation of some of that group. Also, the acceptance of these crimes is not particular to any one political group, rather it appears endemic in US society.

My point is I find the selective outrage of some of the otherwise “bleeding hearts” curious. I don’t find it curious among those of the “kill them all” persuasion.

68 Irenicum  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 11:31:56pm

re: #64 freetoken

Those darn computers! I knew I needed to get something plugged into the back of my neck! I’ve been wanting to know kung fu!

69 Irenicum  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 11:34:26pm

re: #66 freetoken

Rudolph seems to be a little shy when I click him. Gene might have him hidden in a shed. Check the link.

70 freetoken  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 11:34:58pm

re: #69 Irenicum

Works fine for me.

71 Irenicum  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 11:36:25pm

re: #70 freetoken

It must be our download here. Harumph!

72 suchislife  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 11:38:06pm

re: #67 Bagua

That’s exactly how I read you. And as I said, I had the same reaction.

73 Bagua  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 11:38:45pm

re: #48 suchislife

Yes, fascinating, and not only selective outrage, but also selective fear and selective concern.

Should something weird kill a few people out of hundreds of millions there is widespread concern and fear. Yet things killing hundreds of thousands are all but ignored.

Same with politics, if it’s on the TV news it is the subject of conversation in almost every house, work place, forum, etc. In this way the media frames what we consider important or the news, and sets the agenda of what will be discussed that day.

So millions will be caught up in a small issue of some freakishly unusual development, yet crucial issues get ignored.

74 Irenicum  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 11:40:50pm

Oh, before I forget, for all you NYC Lizards, here’s a great film fest for y’all. If I can, I’ll swing down. But I suspect I’ll be stuck in Bostonian environs. Reading does have to happen eventually!

75 freetoken  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 11:42:57pm

re: #71 Irenicum

It must be our download here. Harumph!

If you have your network utility tool at hand, you can try to “ping” or “traceroute” the following server:
“drfsupercenter.info”
to see if you can communicate with the compute which hosts that song.

You can also click on the url:
[[Link: drfsupercenter.info…]
but then, when it doesn’t work, take off the end bracket.

76 suchislife  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 11:45:15pm

re: #73 Bagua

Yes, fascinating, and not only selective outrage, but also selective fear and selective concern.

See summer of the shark, snipers. One of my favorite examples is stranger danger. Parents limit their childrens freedom to an incredible degree to avoid this vanishingly small chance, and the parents who don’t meet heavy societal pressure.
Sunstein is very concerned about this whole thing in the context of the law.

77 Irenicum  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 11:48:05pm

re: #73 Bagua

BTW, I agree with you both on the issue you’re discussing. The tendency to focus on one crime and excuse or even mock the other crime is a constant problem among those who claim most proudly that they’re “liberal”, yet they give in to a dehumanizing impulse that betrays a mindset that is anything but classically liberal. As a classical liberal, we should be better than that. All of human life is important and should be safeguarded, including those who we most disagree with.

78 Irenicum  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 11:50:21pm

re: #76 suchislife

Sunstein as in Cass “Going to Extremes” Sunstein? I just bought his book last month, but haven’t had a chance to read it yet. It looks really good.

79 suchislife  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 11:53:07pm

re: #77 Irenicum

BTW, I agree with you both on the issue you’re discussing. The tendency to focus on one crime and excuse or even mock the other crime is a constant problem among those who claim most proudly that they’re “liberal”, yet they give in to a dehumanizing impulse that betrays a mindset that is anything but classically liberal. As a classical liberal, we should be better than that. All of human life is important and should be safeguarded, including those who we most disagree with.

Could you clarify what you mean by dehumanizing impulse?
Also, I must say that in general I am more concerned with people who are selective in who they will critizise then with those who focus on certain crimes and dismisse others. Though I’m not saying that’s a good thing.

80 Bagua  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 11:57:04pm

re: #76 suchislife

Exactly!

And using an example of fears, especially if they don’t apply to us personally, can help enlighten us to how this mechanism works in our political biases and the issues and fears that do apply to us and in which we have bias.

To explore this further I recommend the book: Risk by John Adams of the University College London which I mentioned in the prior thread.

Risk - John Adams at the LGF store

81 suchislife  Wed, Oct 21, 2009 11:58:08pm

re: #78 Irenicum

Yes. He was mentioned here yesterday because Beck sicked his minions on him to find quotes to distort a few weeks ago. So in reaction a lizard listed him as one of the radical advisors of Obama.
I’m not that big a fan, because I don’t agree with some of his more general conclusions, but he is a good read, I think.

82 suchislife  Thu, Oct 22, 2009 12:03:44am

re: #78 Irenicum

If you see me here once you read it, do tell me what you thought!

83 Yashmak  Thu, Oct 22, 2009 7:11:25am

re: #30 Conservative Moonbat

I’ve read that that’s actually something of an urban myth and instances of rape in prison are fairly rare.

I’ve read the same thing.

84 wiffersnapper  Thu, Oct 22, 2009 7:55:45am

And I hope he stays there for a long time.

85 mikhailtheplumber  Thu, Oct 22, 2009 8:02:17am

Considering prison demographics, I wonder what kind of treatment a white supremacist gets from other inmates.
Of course, the guards might be on his side, but it puts a smile on my face to think that White will have a unique vantage point to reappraise those he hates.

86 gadlaw  Thu, Oct 22, 2009 12:06:16pm

Yah, crazies are everywhere. Why I remember way back during the Republican Primaries and I mentioned that I liked some of the plain talk I was hearing from Ron Paul (versus all the slime slippery talk from everyone else) and before you know it folks here were checking up on me and one of them went off and said ‘I found this loonies website!’ and another loony agreed that was a great find and congratulated him. I pointed out that my website link was in my info but you know, there wasn’t any discussion, just attack. Didn’t know any of the over the bend stuff from Ron Paul at the time but I sympathize with Charles over being threatened and harassed when folks disagree with you politically. It’s a lot of fun being treated like the rat at the banquet party.

87 swamprat  Thu, Oct 22, 2009 6:35:57pm

re: #86 gadlaw


All I can say is this;

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