Obama ‘Thesis’ - a Hoax

Rush Limbaugh, Michael Ledeen, and a host of wingnut blogs were radically punk’d today by a hoax report that originated at ‘jumpinginpools’ (a blog run by a fool who was recently banned from LGF for relentlessly pimping his blog, and registering sock puppet after sock puppet to upding his own posts), claiming to have “10 pages from Obama’s college thesis” that proved Obama was a commie, plotting to trash the Constitution.

It was completely false. The ‘jumpinginpools’ blogger put a ‘satire’ tag at the bottom of his crudely written post, but all these people missed it. Those who fell for the hoax included Rush Limbaugh, Michael Ledeen, shrieking harpy Pamela Geller, American Thinker, etc. etc.

Then, to make things even more ridiculous, Limbaugh sort of recanted in the second half of his radio show — but actually said he doesn’t care if the quotes were fake, because “I know Obama thinks it.”

I seem to recall Rush Limbaugh complaining bitterly about false racist quotes attributed to him (while ignoring the dozens of real quotes). And now here he is, using the “fake but accurate” excuse himself, because he magically knows what Barack Obama is thinking.

Today’s letter is “H,” and that stands for massive Hypocrisy.

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310 comments

1 Kragar  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:01:49pm

These people wouldn't know satire if it came up and bit them on the ass.

2 humpty dumpty was pushed  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:02:55pm

Lol. That`s awesome. Maybe people will start being a bit more restrained when they hear the latest earth-shattering rumor.

3 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:03:01pm

re: #1 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

These people wouldn't know satire if it came up and bit them on the ass.

This wasn't even satire -- it was pure crap. It shows how desperate the right wing is to believe anything bad about Barack Obama that they didn't dismiss this badly written pile of rubbish instantly.

4 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:03:25pm

it would be funny if it weren't so sad ...

5 theheat  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:03:49pm

"Massive" and "hypocrisy" sum up Limbaugh nicely. Perfectly, even.

6 Kragar  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:05:04pm

re: #2 humpty dumpty was pushed

Lol. That`s awesome. Maybe people will start being a bit more restrained when they hear the latest earth-shattering rumor.

Magic 8-Ball says not bloody likely.

7 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:05:27pm

re: #1 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

But... but... but I thought Rush was supposed to be a master of satire.
/

8 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:05:35pm

It would be nice if people on the right tried to actually argue against policy or in support of a counter-policy instead of constantly tilting a windmills and not advancing the conservative movement whatsoever.

9 bosforus  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:05:55pm

Hey, I found an English paper written by Obama!
-Sound warning: Sound will immediately emanate!-

10 Eowyn2  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:06:14pm

I got the impression that limbaugh (whom I heard during the 1st half of his show say that it was all probably a hoax) was sarcastically rubbing salt in the wound of the 'fake but accurate' crowd with an "if its good for the goose, its good for the gander" He did repeatedly play the Obama speech with the redistribution of wealth meme whenever he said "I know that's how Obama thinks because he has said so"

11 J.S.  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:07:46pm

Glad I don't bother reading right-wing blogs mentioned above...I hadn't heard about this silly hoax till now...

12 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:08:25pm

re: #10 Eowyn2

Heh. That's some pretzel logic there. I hope you limbered up before that though. You might get cramps.

13 MinisterO  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:09:01pm

Asshattery rears it head.

14 SpaceJesus  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:09:48pm

have another dose of oxycontin mr. limbaugh

15 fizzlogic  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:10:36pm

Back in the early nineties it was the same crap. What's mind boggling is how the Right supported Hillary for President over McCain after claiming time after time that she was a radical marxist out to destroy the country and the Constitution. All these RW pundits do is poison any and all political discourse to the point that no national problem can ever be rationally addressed.

16 carefulnow  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:11:11pm

re: #3 Charles

Yes, but was it craptastic crap?
/

17 insert name here  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:11:51pm

This trip is just getting weirder and weirder...

18 carefulnow  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:12:03pm

re: #9 bosforus

Hey, I could use that!

19 arethusa  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:12:06pm

Glad the hoax was uncovered, but I must say I'm mystified by this obsession with finding college theses (the Obamas and McDonnell in Virginia). We're not electing people fresh out of college with the inexperience and naivete that implies. They're 20, 25, 30 years on in life now. Don't people change their opinions, even their politics, over the course of their lives? I'm embarrassed by my college writing - it no longer represents what I think.

20 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:12:26pm

re: #14 spacejesus

have another dose of oxycontin mr. limbaugh

And for all our sakes, Glenn, please start drinking again.

21 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:12:27pm

re: #10 Eowyn2

Sure, Limbaugh tried to play it like that -- but then he went on to insist that he knows Obama thinks those things.

22 Kragar  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:12:53pm

re: #20 Cato the Elder

And for all our sakes, Glenn, please start drinking again.

You're gonna make him cry.

23 John Neverbend  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:13:23pm

re: #13 MinisterO

Asshattery rears its head.

FTFY. In those four words, there is a multitude of meanings.

24 fizzlogic  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:13:56pm

re: #21 Charles

It's just a dog whistle for a different stripe of conservative--there's a red under my bed.

25 redshirt  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:14:56pm

wow, I heard it and was shocked...

26 theheat  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:15:47pm

re: #22 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
I wonder if he attributed his weird behavior before to drinking and smoking herb. Now, what's his excuse? It appears he was nuts under his indulgences all along.

27 Bloodnok  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:16:53pm

So we have the thesis he wanted to write, but didn't. And we have the speech to schoolchildren that he wanted to make, but didn't.

Obama is quite prolific at things he doesn't bother to do. I hope that one day I can not do half of the things that Obama hasn't done.

28 Bagua  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:17:37pm

Obama: Show us the phony essay!

/what are you hiding?

29 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:17:44pm

Is that an actual picture of "Jumpinginpools" on his website? Who puts a picture that shows your hungover, pustuled, mouth-breathing self on the banner of your site?

30 Eowyn2  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:18:22pm

re: #21 Charles

Sure, Limbaugh tried to play it like that -- but then he went on to insist that he knows Obama thinks those things.

and every time he said it, he played the tape of Obama talking about the redistribution of wealth and repeatedly said "by today's journalistic standards blah blah blah" I firmly think it was a "fact checking works both ways, you jerks" I dont think he would have harped on it nearly as long if he weren't fresh from the 'Limbaugh said:" lies which effectively kept him from being an NFL franchise owner.

31 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:19:10pm

It's as though the right wing punditry is incapable of formulating an argument promoting conservative ideology at it's foundations. As a movement, I'm not seeing pundits explain the foundations of the ideology and why it's superior to the left. They're more interested in attacking trivial matters, and ignoring the ideological conflict brewing within the party. And they're not only not bothering to convince independents and democrats why they should join the right, they're not even having the conversation with their republican allies as to why we shouldn't tolerate moderates in our ranks.

That they would so ignore the ideological aspect of politics at this time, and only focus on the superficial causes me to question how much of the ideology of conservatism are they interested in promoting versus the easy populist path we've seen daily since the election, and frankly before the election too. If there are none to promote the ideology of conservatism, then the movement is on the path to extinction.

32 humpty dumpty was pushed  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:19:13pm

re: #11 J.S.

One must sometimes slog through many pages of partisan hackery to get close to the truth about info spread on the intertubes. It`s kinda fun, to be honest.

33 insert name here  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:19:22pm

Perhaps the icing on the cake: if you go to the original blogger's site (jumping in pools), his last sentence in his obama-thesis blog post is:

Consider advertising on our site!

Yeah, you betcha!

34 KernelPanic  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:19:50pm
The Republican National Committee shelled out $1.4 million dollars over the last six months for Web sites and services, much of which was spent on GOP.com, the party’s major Web presence that was unveiled this month, new Federal Election Commission expense reports show.


Whoah, have no idea as to how accurate this site is but this post is claiming that the disaster that is called "the new GOP.com" website cost 1.4 million dollars! Link is here

35 jaunte  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:19:58pm

'Plausible' is this month's euphemism for 'truthy.'

36 Eowyn2  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:20:58pm

y'all have a good weekend.

37 Kragar  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:21:02pm

re: #29 Cato the Elder

Is that an actual picture of "Jumpinginpools" on his website? Who puts a picture that shows your hungover, pustuled, mouth-breathing self on the banner of your site?

Look at the content and you have your answer.

38 theheat  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:21:43pm

re: #31 Sharmuta

When Huckabee and Palin are the ones they're talking about in the poles for 2012, it's obvious the direction they've chosen. Chosen, not been handed. That's the important distinction.

Put a fork in them, they're done.

39 albusteve  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:21:45pm

re: #8 Sharmuta

It would be nice if people on the right tried to actually argue against policy or in support of a counter-policy instead of constantly tilting a windmills and not advancing the conservative movement whatsoever.

"onward Christian soldiers"...advancing

40 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:21:57pm

re: #34 KernelPanic

Whoah, have no idea as to how accurate this site is but this post is claiming that the disaster that is called "the new GOP.com" website cost 1.4 million dollars! Link is here

Whoa! They got seriously fleeced!

41 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:23:07pm

re: #30 Eowyn2

and every time he said it, he played the tape of Obama talking about the redistribution of wealth and repeatedly said "by today's journalistic standards blah blah blah" I firmly think it was a "fact checking works both ways, you jerks" I dont think he would have harped on it nearly as long if he weren't fresh from the 'Limbaugh said:" lies which effectively kept him from being an NFL franchise owner.

There were no "lies." Limbaugh has said dozens of blatantly racist and/or race-baiting quotes ON THE RECORD.

42 SixDegrees  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:23:20pm

re: #29 Cato the Elder

Is that an actual picture of "Jumpinginpools" on his website? Who puts a picture that shows your hungover, pustuled, mouth-breathing self on the banner of your site?

Someone who's looking at the smattering of attention he's received as a result of today's post, now exclaiming "I'm Somebody!!!" to himself.

43 Kragar  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:23:29pm

re: #40 Charles

Whoa! They got seriously fleeced!

But they got free pens and coffee mugs out of the deal, right?

/

44 theheat  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:24:08pm

re: #34 KernelPanic

the committee paid $328,000 to 11 firms for Web development.

I think I may have just peed my pants laughing.

Yup. I did. It was a gloating sort of pee.

45 Stanghazi  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:24:10pm

It's becoming a right wing freak out of the day. Let's sell calendars!

46 jaunte  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:24:17pm

re: #34 KernelPanic

Whoah, have no idea as to how accurate this site is but this post is claiming that the disaster that is called "the new GOP.com" website cost 1.4 million dollars! Link is here

“Considering the significant resources they invested, more focus should have been placed on the quality of the content,” Newell said."

Good advice for the Republican party in general.

47 fizzlogic  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:24:41pm

Rush is a Master Baiter--whether it's race baiting, commie baiting, godless baiting, or whatever baiting. It's just what he does, and he can't stop. I think the old adage that you'll go blind is wrong. You'll go deaf.

48 Kragar  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:26:28pm

re: #42 SixDegrees

Someone who's looking at the smattering of attention he's received as a result of today's post, now exclaiming "I'm Somebody!!!" to himself.

He said to himself:

"I'm starting a blog! I'm somebody now! Millions of people look at the internet everyday! This is the kind of spontaneous publicity - your name on a blog - that makes people. I'm a blogger! Things are going to start happening to me now."

49 insert name here  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:26:52pm

re: #46 jaunte

“Considering the significant resources they invested, more focus should have been placed on the quality of the content,” Newell said."

If these guys can't even run a website, how good will they be at running a country?

50 MisterCookie  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:29:19pm

re: #47 trendsurfer

Rush is a Master Baiter--whether it's race baiting, commie baiting, godless baiting, or whatever baiting. It's just what he does, and he can't stop. I think the old adage that you'll go blind is wrong. You'll go deaf.

For being such a family-values guy, isn't it odd that he's had so many divorces?(as is my understanding)

51 Kragar  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:29:26pm

re: #46 jaunte

“Considering the significant resources they invested, more focus should have been placed on the quality of the content,” Newell said."

Good advice for the Republican party in general.

I can just imagine the conversations at GOP HQ.

"Well, we just got our new website up and running so we can really get our message out to the people, but it feels like we forgot somethig."

"A message?"

"OH SHI-!"

52 theheat  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:30:58pm

re: #49 insert name here

FWIW - Obama had a pretty good web site when he was running for election. Maybe not the best way to determine how a party will run the country. But, to his credit, Obama was tech savvy. The GOPs are internet dinosaurs.

6,000 year old internet dinosaurs.

53 researchok  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:31:29pm
I seem to recall Rush Limbaugh complaining bitterly about false racist quotes attributed to him (while ignoring the dozens of real quotes). And now here he is, using the “fake but accurate” excuse himself, because he magically knows what Barack Obama is thinking.

Beautiful.

54 Nervous Norvous  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:31:58pm

Maybe the funniest and most enjoyable thing to do would be to start a blog that posts the most rediculous and outlandish comments from teh wingnutosphere and just see who crazy we can actually get them over the dumbest, most rediculous crap we can come up with...Oh crap...Hot Air beat me to it..

55 Nervous Norvous  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:32:47pm

re: #54 PT Barnum

Not who crazy...how crazy...good god...

56 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:33:06pm

re: #47 trendsurfer

LMAO

57 Big Steve  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:35:02pm

In honor of Soupy Sale's passing today, maybe Rush Limbaugh give himself a pie in the face.

58 reine.de.tout  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:35:16pm

re: #49 insert name here

If these guys can't even run a website, how good will they be at running a country?

Good question.
Also asked by some here during the campaign about Obama's problems with his campaign website.

59 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:36:49pm

re: #58 reine.de.tout

Yup, Obama's site was a mess too. It probably still is.

60 Bagua  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:36:55pm

re: #49 insert name here

If these guys can't even run a website, how good will they be at running a country?

Government runs nothing efficiently, regardless of the party.

61 A Man for all Seasons  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:37:41pm

re: #47 trendsurfer

Rush is a Master Baiter--whether it's race baiting, commie baiting, godless baiting, or whatever baiting. It's just what he does, and he can't stop. I think the old adage that you'll go blind is wrong. You'll go deaf.

You know what? Rush is deeply hated by the Sports world.. I mean deep underlining disgust...It has nothing to do with fake statements.It has everything to do with what he said and who he is...There was a better chance to eat ice cream in hell than Rush to own a NFL team...Don't bring your shit around here Rush..We know you.
You know how bad it is? If Glenn Beck was in a full Clown outfit jumping up and down on his desk.. The crying Clown..If he had a Billion dollars you'd damn well be sure the NFL would let him buy a team for sale...
/Hell at least he just nuts like the rest of us Billionaires...But Race Baiter? F off Rush!

62 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:38:25pm

I'm still in shock. $1.4 million bucks -- for that?

63 AHWilde  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:38:40pm

re: #53 researchok
Had you been listening to Rush rather than reading media mutters you would know he was joking about "fake but accurate" and acknowledged there were no sources for the quotes.

64 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:39:20pm

re: #30 Eowyn2

I dont think he would have harped on it nearly as long if he weren't fresh from the 'Limbaugh said:" lies which effectively kept him from being an NFL franchise owner.

Contrary to many rumors floating about, America is still a free country. If a buying consortium decides they do not want Rush on board, for whatever reason, they are well within their rights to tell him to kick rocks.

65 theheat  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:39:28pm

re: #54 PT Barnum

Categories:
Throbbing Fake Memo of the Day
I Found God and $1.87 In My Couch Cushions
Photo Essay: Tarted Up Whores at Wal-Mart
My Black Commie Gardener - Do You Have One Too?
Death Panels Near You
Photo Essay: Jesus On My Toast
Tea Party Meetup Schedule
Missionary Style Singles
Birth Control Pills, Flouride, and Other Dangers
Recycling Is For Homos

66 insert name here  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:39:32pm

re: #62 Charles

I'm still in shock. $1.4 million bucks -- for that?

Hmmm...perhaps it's time for me to consider a new career...

67 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:39:34pm

Here come St. Limbaugh's disciples!

68 Four More Tears  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:39:46pm

re: #62 Charles

I'm still in shock. $1.4 million bucks -- for that?

Someone's laughing all the way to the bank with those GOP donations.

69 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:39:50pm

re: #62 Charles

I'm still in shock. $1.4 million bucks -- for that?

Fiscal responsibility!

70 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:41:07pm

Rush Limbaugh - he's always joking! Why, he's a cut-up! A prankster! A laff-a-minute comedian!

Nothing funnier than telling people to kill themselves. Yep, that's a real knee-slapper.

71 drogheda  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:41:07pm

re: #22 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

re: #20 Cato the Elder

And for all our sakes, Glenn, please start drinking again.

You're gonna make him cry.

As if that's at all difficult to do.

72 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:41:34pm
In the months prior to the October 13 launch of GOP.com, the committee paid $328,000 to 11 firms for Web development. (The Democrats, which did not completely overhaul their site during that time period, spent $45,000 on Web development.)


Lol

73 Big Steve  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:42:22pm

re: #67 Charles

St. Limbaugh's

LMAO...what is he the patron saint of? Lets have a contest.

74 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:42:40pm

re: #31 Sharmuta

Off Topic mostly
I went to the youtube link to down rate and flag as bullying. I see nobody at youtube moderates harsh comments either. I was sorry to see your name taken in vain. Damn, you are the person who takes time with the noobs. Thanks for being kind, and I'm sorry to see what I did at youtube.

75 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:42:40pm

re: #63 AHWilde

A claim that has been proven to be false.

76 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:43:25pm

re: #73 Big Steve

LMAO...what is he the patron saint of? Lets have a contest.

The patron saint of bloviators.

77 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:44:16pm

re: #70 Charles

Rush Limbaugh - he's always joking! Why, he's a cut-up! A prankster! A laff-a-minute comedian!

Nothing funnier than telling people to kill themselves. Yep, that's a real knee-slapper.

Remember, he was also the one who introduced the term "compassion fascist" to replace the gently mocking "do-gooder".

Yep. If you're for more money being spent on noxious poor people, you're a compassion fascist.

I don't know if he still uses that one, because I haven't listened to him since roughly 1993 when the ten-millionth zinger about "feminazis" overloaded my crapmeter.

78 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:44:18pm

This episode proves that you can put just about anything on the Internet and right wing bloggers and Rush Limbaugh will believe it -- as long as it's negative toward Barack Obama.

79 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:44:37pm

re: #74 Rightwingconspirator

Thanks, but I'm used to it. I appreciate your kindness, though.

80 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:44:45pm

re: #76 Sharmuta

I was gonna say bloviating race baiters.

Seems you have only one foot in my head today, or vice versa.

81 researchok  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:44:48pm

re: #63 AHWilde

Had you been listening to Rush rather than reading media mutters you would know he was joking about "fake but accurate" and acknowledged there were no sources for the quotes.

You know, Rush referring to his beliefs in a way that accommodated his half ass apologies, speaks volumes.

A real apology is just that, an apology. Rush did what he always does- heaps on a pile of self serving crap on everyone's plate.

82 Usually refered to as anyways  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:45:00pm

Hi Charles,

A bit of a repost...
Happy birthday LGF

LGF has been registered for 9 years...

Charles if I may, what were you thinking when you registered LGF, did you ever think it would be where it is today?
Charles, do you ever wake up and feel like its groundhog day?

Heres a bit of music for you

Everyone, hip hip hooray...

83 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:45:02pm

re: #73 Big Steve

LMAO...what is he the patron saint of? Lets have a contest.

Cigars, bloat, hillbilly heroin and Viagra.

84 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:45:28pm

re: #62 Charles

If that site had been done well, and say we had a person full time at $52,000 a year moderating, and we assume the same kind of traffic you get- How much should it cost? I was thinking under $100,000 but I'm no code guy.

85 SixDegrees  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:45:36pm

re: #78 Charles

This episode proves that you can put just about anything on the Internet and right wing bloggers and Rush Limbaugh will believe it -- as long as it's negative toward Barack Obama.

I think it's time for someone to come forward with a love child. /

86 insert name here  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:46:29pm

re: #72 Killgore Trout

Speaking of fiscal responsibility, let's not forget...

The biggest disparity seems to be bandwidth costs–the RNC paid Smartech Corp., a Republican-focused hosting firm, more than a million dollars, plus $22,000 to Eloqua, compared to the DNC’s $203,000 to Sprint, Switch and Data and Servint Corp.–despite the fact that the two sites’ traffic, which determines bandwidth usage and, largely, hosting costs, was the same.

87 BryanS  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:46:30pm

re: #40 Charles

Whoa! They got seriously fleeced!

Holy shiite! One million for hosting?!?!? There seams to be some high overhead costs in running that site.

88 Four More Tears  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:46:35pm

From GOP.com's frontpage:

Friday, October 23, 2009

How much longer will it be before you get the following notice from the new "Friendship Fairness Czar"?

Official Notice of Violation and Assessment of Friendship Tax:

An audit of your Facebook account shows that your total number of friends is above the average of 120 friends for all Facebook users. The Friendship Fairness Czar has determined that you have an excessive and unfair number of friends and has devised a solution to spread the wealth of friendship. Please click on the Friendship Fairness Czar Facebook Application to be assessed your tax and become a fan.

Um... what the hell is this trying to say? Why is this one the frontpage of a major political party? And most importantly... who told the GOP about Facebook?

89 SixDegrees  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:47:29pm

re: #63 AHWilde

Had you been listening to Rush rather than reading media mutters you would know he was joking about "fake but accurate" and acknowledged there were no sources for the quotes.

Yeah. Rush took one of his huge daily dumps, then stepped in it, and first tried to cover it up, then tried to blame it on someone else.

Say it with me: epic fail.

90 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:47:42pm

re: #86 insert name here

I suspect somebody's friends made a lot of money off the site.

91 BryanS  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:47:59pm

re: #66 insert name here

Hmmm...perhaps it's time for me to consider a new career...

There HAS to be a lot of skimming going on.

92 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:48:18pm

re: #84 Rightwingconspirator

If that site had been done well, and say we had a person full time at $52,000 a year moderating, and we assume the same kind of traffic you get- How much should it cost? I was thinking under $100,000 but I'm no code guy.

$200K tops. And that would be a pretty high fee for what I see on that site.

93 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:49:53pm

re: #78 Charles

This episode proves that you can put just about anything on the Internet and right wing bloggers and Rush Limbaugh will believe it -- as long as it's negative toward Barack Obama.

It works both ways. People pick up on things from Rush's show and they promote them wildly too- like Glenn Beck expecting the FBI to call him because of some caller on Rush not understanding the difference between an observation and a directive. It's almost a self-feeding propaganda machine.

94 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:50:05pm

Its hosted by Enron!
/

95 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:51:04pm

re: #82 ozbloke

I don't think I get your point. Would you care to be more explicit?

96 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:51:06pm

re: #92 Charles

$200K tops. And that would be a pretty high fee for what I see on that site.

Rich assholes are more likely to get ripped off than anyone else. They don't feel they're getting a good product if it costs the same as what their neighbor gets for a tenth of what they're willing to pay.

Some web design company somewhere has a really good salesman and $1.4 in the bank. I hope the salesman got a fat commission.

97 insert name here  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:52:13pm

re: #90 Killgore Trout

Warning bells went off when I saw that it was a "Republican-focused hosting firm." Well, they're certainly paying for the pleasure.

Looks to me like they would have received a much better deal going with a non-ideological firm, as the Dems seem to have done.

98 enoughalready  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:53:25pm

re: #97 insert name here

Warning bells went off when I saw that it was a "Republican-focused hosting firm." Well, they're certainly paying for the pleasure.

Looks to me like they would have received a much better deal going with a non-ideological firm, as the Dems seem to have done.

Yes, but then it might have been commie marxist computers running commie marxist operating systems.

99 Stanghazi  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:54:16pm

Looks like Lou Dobbs fell for it too.

100 Usually refered to as anyways  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:54:20pm

re: #95 Charles

I don't think I get your point. Would you care to be more explicit?

Charles,

Did you ever consider that it would become so successful?
It must have changed your life because of the dedication required.

I tip my hat to you, and pray for you continued success.

Kind regards

101 reine.de.tout  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:54:32pm

re: #90 Killgore Trout

I suspect somebody's friends made a lot of money off the site.

Or somebody's relatives.
Good grief, please let it not be somebody's relatives!

102 Four More Tears  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:54:35pm

re: #98 enoughalready

Yes, but then it might have been commie marxist computers running commie marxist operating systems.

Macs?

103 A Man for all Seasons  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:54:42pm

re: #97 insert name here

Warning bells went off when I saw that it was a "Republican-focused hosting firm." Well, they're certainly paying for the pleasure.

Looks to me like they would have received a much better deal going with a non-ideological firm, as the Dems seem to have done.

Godaddy.com!
Danica helped write this site!
/Way more hits in the real world...LOL

104 theheat  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:56:01pm

re: #96 Cato the Elder

I don't know about that... I think some are rich because they don't pay for anything and dispute everything. But in this case, it looks like the GOP opened their checkbook and looked the other way. And they got shafted.

105 tradewind  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:56:43pm

Good idea, creepiest ad for it ever. You'd think that in Hollywood land, they'd get more creative... LAPD promotes their new terrorism watch:
[Link: video.hollywoodreporter.com...]

106 Four More Tears  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:56:55pm

re: #99 Stanley Sea

Looks like Lou Dobbs fell for it too.

[Link: mediamatters.org...]

DOBBS: Well talking about pitiful performances, the liberal national media which has all but abdicated its responsibilities to inform the American people and do some significant investigative reporting did such a poor job of vetting the President in election that they continue to look the other way on a host of issues

LOU! YOU HAVE A SHOW ON CNN!!!
FFS!

107 enoughalready  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:57:22pm

re: #102 JasonA

Macs?

Yes. Or even worse. Maoist custom home built hardware running an open source OS.

108 tradewind  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:58:51pm

re: #106 JasonA

/Watch out, CNN: they're coming for you next/

109 Bagua  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:59:10pm

re: #105 tradewind

Good idea, creepiest ad for it ever. You'd think that in Hollywood land, they'd get more creative... LAPD promotes their new terrorism watch:
[Link: video.hollywoodreporter.com...]

Definitely a 10 on the creepy scale.

110 bratwurst  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:59:23pm

re: #30 Eowyn2

and every time he said it, he played the tape of Obama talking about the redistribution of wealth and repeatedly said "by today's journalistic standards blah blah blah" I firmly think it was a "fact checking works both ways, you jerks" I dont think he would have harped on it nearly as long if he weren't fresh from the 'Limbaugh said:" lies which effectively kept him from being an NFL franchise owner.

re: #63 AHWilde

Had you been listening to Rush rather than reading media mutters you would know he was joking about "fake but accurate" and acknowledged there were no sources for the quotes.


Some people STILL will not give up the notion that two bogus quotes negate all of the VERIFIED racist quotes with Rush's name on them.

111 albusteve  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:59:31pm

what's FFS?

112 pdc_lgf  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:59:54pm

re: #92 Charles

I think it costs maybe $50K to put together a website. Maintenance, moderation - dunno. Maybe they spent a lot extra designing the look and feel.

Somebody I know was thinking about putting up a site for her business. It would have been comparable to 1/2 the thing the Republicans have. She got a quote of $30K. Someone told her the price quoted was a rip-off.

Question. Don't all theses go into the university's library? Subsequently put on microfilm (back then)?

113 tradewind  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:00:17pm

re: #109 Bagua

Note that this was not a creation of the RNC...//

114 theheat  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:01:04pm

re: #98 enoughalready

a "Republican-focused hosting firm."

They love that family values flavor of incestuous. It's like the fake tunnel the coyote puts up for the roadrunner. They fall for it every freakin' time.

115 SixDegrees  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:01:16pm

A million bucks for a hosting service? Damn - my $10 a month looks so paltry by comparison. That would keep my site going for over eight thousand years.

I know the GOP has special concerns - high volume, security, gigantic attack target - but c'mon. You know what I would do? I would find out who put together Hannah Montana's website, and hire them - they have exactly the same set of concerns as the GOP, and I bet they'd work for a lot less.

Hell - I'd take the contract myself, and only charge them $750,000.

116 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:03:26pm

re: #115 SixDegrees

A million bucks for a hosting service? Damn - my $10 a month looks so paltry by comparison. That would keep my site going for over eight thousand years.

I know the GOP has special concerns - high volume, security, gigantic attack target - but c'mon. You know what I would do? I would find out who put together Hannah Montana's website, and hire them - they have exactly the same set of concerns as the GOP, and I bet they'd work for a lot less.

Hell - I'd take the contract myself, and only charge them $750,000.

And then, to make it even more ridiculous, on its LAUNCH DAY the site kept crashing and they couldn't keep it online. Pathetic doesn't even begin to describe this.

I wonder if any of that $1.4 million came out of taxpayers' pockets?

117 Four More Tears  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:03:36pm

re: #111 albusteve

For F***s Sake

118 Four More Tears  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:04:40pm

re: #116 Charles

And then, to make it even more ridiculous, on its LAUNCH DAY the site kept crashing and they couldn't keep it online. Pathetic doesn't even begin to describe this.

I wonder if any of that $1.4 million came out of taxpayers' pockets?

Is there any reason it would? I figured it would all come from donations, no?

119 reine.de.tout  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:05:59pm

re: #118 JasonA

Is there any reason it would? I figured it would all come from donations, no?

Donations from taxpayers (citizens)
But I doubt any of the money was tax revenue given to the GOP.

120 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:06:34pm

The extra money was just to keep the I.C.E.W.E.A.S.E.L. protocol and the Catobot at bay.

But, as always, S.O.R.O.S. saw it coming and suborned a low-level designer. There is a built-in back door.

Which we'll use to spectacular effect when the time comes...

121 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:06:58pm

These guys have been fleecing the GOP for years, and getting very rich:

SMARTech Corporation - SourceWatch

2004
In the 2004 election cycle (2003-2005), the Republican Party paid:

SMARTECH CORPORATION $2,275,081 (153 expenditures) for internet services, computer consulting, email programming, website services, web hosting, email services, wireless services, internet consulting, domain registration, and network consulting.

2006
In the 2006 election cycle (2005-2006), the Republican Party paid:

SmarTech Corp. $8,539 (2 expenditures) marked "Paid for by transfer from RNC"

SMARTECH CORPORATION $3,320,066 (245 expenditures) for equipment, domain registration, web hosting, web services, email programming, data storage, internet connection, internet services, in-kind phone services, computer programming, database programming, license fees, video services, online video streaming, software purchase, training, office supplies, airfare, transportation, meals & lodging, sales tax, etc.

In the 2006 election cycle (2005-2006), the National Republican Congressional Committee paid:

SMARTECH CORPORATION $2,228 (41 expenditures) for "Generic Web Hosting".

122 Stanghazi  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:07:12pm

There's been a bit of talk today here & @ other places about how Fox was excluded from the Feinberg interview & how the other news outlets came to their aid. Here's a take on what really happened:

Adding to the Fox News v. White House feud today is a dust-up over an interview with pay czar Ken Feinberg. Turns out, it was a sort of miscommunication, but the White House adds that if they had left Fox out it would be a case of "Not that there's anything wrong with that!"

The version Fox has pushed all day is that the network was excluded from an interview roundtable with Feinberg yesterday, and that bureau chiefs from ABC, CBS, NBC and CNN came to Fox's defense.

TPMDC dug into it, and here's what happened.

Feinberg did a pen and pad with reporters to brief them on cutting executive compensation. TV correspondents, as they do with everything, asked to get the comments on camera. Treasury officials agreed and made a list of the networks who asked (Fox was not among them).

But logistically, all of the cameras could not get set up in time or with ease for the Feinberg interview, so they opted for a round robin where the networks use one pool camera. Treasury called the White House pool crew and gave them the list of the networks who'd asked for the interview.

The network pool crew noticed Fox wasn't on the list, was told that they hadn't asked and the crew said they needed to be included. Treasury called the White House and asked top Obama adviser Anita Dunn. Dunn said yes and Fox's Major Garrett was among the correspondents to interview Feinberg last night.

Simple as that, we're told, and the networks don't want to be seen as heroes for Fox.

[Link: tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com...]

123 albusteve  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:07:25pm

re: #116 Charles

And then, to make it even more ridiculous, on its LAUNCH DAY the site kept crashing and they couldn't keep it online. Pathetic doesn't even begin to describe this.

I wonder if any of that $1.4 million came out of taxpayers' pockets?


interesting...THAT would even piss me off

124 SixDegrees  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:08:08pm

For $1.4 million, I think the GOP website ought to have some really groundbreaking software - something really trendsetting. Like...an electronic assistant that would monitor a visitor's usage and interests, and make helpful suggestions about areas of the site the user might like to navigate to. Or just take the user to automatically.

Since it would sort of hold together all of the user's past visits, searches and other interests, I think a paper clip would be the perfect icon for such an assistant. And you could use Flash to animate it - maybe with cute little eyes. And it could dance when it popped up with a suggestion. And maybe they could name it, too, to personalize it even more. Something inviting and chipper - like "Chippy."

I think this is the greatest damn idea EVER! And I think the GOP needs to buy it immediately! It could revolutionize web browsing, and maybe even have application on the desktop!

125 tradewind  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:08:36pm
Then, to make things even more ridiculous, Limbaugh sort of recanted in the second half of his radio show — but actually said he doesn’t care if the quotes were fake, because “I know Obama thinks it.”


That is teh stoopit. It's also exactly the same treatment George W received during the '04 campaign re, among other things, his NG service.

126 BryanS  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:10:01pm

re: #115 SixDegrees

A million bucks for a hosting service? Damn - my $10 a month looks so paltry by comparison. That would keep my site going for over eight thousand years.

I know the GOP has special concerns - high volume, security, gigantic attack target - but c'mon. You know what I would do? I would find out who put together Hannah Montana's website, and hire them - they have exactly the same set of concerns as the GOP, and I bet they'd work for a lot less.

Hell - I'd take the contract myself, and only charge them $750,000.

That kind of cha-ching could buy you one hell of an infrastructure. Let us say they were paying an very high amount of money per server at $1000 per month for dedicated hosting. That would be about 83 dedicated servers. 83 dedicated servers clustered could, with the kind of hardware $1000/mo could buy, give your 5000 hits per server per second, or 415,000 hits per second, 24.9 mil hits per minute, 1.5 billion hits per hour and 36 billion hits per day.

That is f'ing ridiculous.

127 SixDegrees  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:11:12pm

re: #116 Charles

And then, to make it even more ridiculous, on its LAUNCH DAY the site kept crashing and they couldn't keep it online. Pathetic doesn't even begin to describe this.

I wonder if any of that $1.4 million came out of taxpayers' pockets?

When it launched, it looked to me as though they had published a beta version but put it on their live site. A lot of the really egregious errors were the sort of thing you commonly see on closed testing sites before they go live.

If true, it begs the question: why didn't they contact a raft of GOP faithful - and even the not-so-faithful - to beta test it on a private site before releasing it? Surely, for a million bucks, they had the resources available for such a setup.

128 Liberally Conservative  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:12:14pm

re: #125 tradewind

That is teh stoopit. It's also exactly the same treatment George W received during the '04 campaign re, among other things, his NG service.

Politicians get unfair treatment for stuff they say during campaigns, like McCain's houses remark, or Obama's bitter remark. The point of all that is for your guy to win because he is better. There is no point to peddling forgeries to prove outlandish statements except for personal gain or for partisan self-satisfaction.

129 SixDegrees  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:13:19pm

re: #121 Charles

These guys have been fleecing the GOP for years, and getting very rich:

SMARTech Corporation - SourceWatch

Sounds like there might be a laundry room in the back of that office, if you know what I mean.

It would be interesting to get some figures from other parties and candidates for comparison.

130 A Man for all Seasons  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:15:01pm

re: #126 BryanS

That kind of cha-ching could buy you one hell of an infrastructure. Let us say they were paying an very high amount of money per server at $1000 per month for dedicated hosting. That would be about 83 dedicated servers. 83 dedicated servers clustered could, with the kind of hardware $1000/mo could buy, give your 5000 hits per server per second, or 415,000 hits per second, 24.9 mil hits per minute, 1.5 billion hits per hour and 36 billion hits per day.

That is f'ing ridiculous.

Yes..But not accurate..Data Centers run in a cloud...
Behind the scenes DC's run on VM servers...

131 SixDegrees  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:15:07pm

re: #126 BryanS

That kind of cha-ching could buy you one hell of an infrastructure. Let us say they were paying an very high amount of money per server at $1000 per month for dedicated hosting. That would be about 83 dedicated servers. 83 dedicated servers clustered could, with the kind of hardware $1000/mo could buy, give your 5000 hits per server per second, or 415,000 hits per second, 24.9 mil hits per minute, 1.5 billion hits per hour and 36 billion hits per day.

That is f'ing ridiculous.

Yup. Even if you toss in large expenditures for security measures that would be required for such a site, I can't imagine running up that kind of tab. Somethin' ain't quite right.

132 theheat  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:15:09pm

re: #124 SixDegrees

That fishing lure looking thing at the bottom of the page was, I think, as adventurous and interactive as they got. The rest of the money probably went to buy all those old funerary cards they needed to scan as historical Republicans. They're collectable, you know. And expensive.

In all seriousness, when you pay that much for something, with 11 firms as consultants, the site should have been cutting edge - done everything but fetch the paper for its viewers. Worse, the site crashed all day long on launch. Clearly, whoever dreamed up their server configuration was not up to the task. The designers weren't up to the task. The content provided was abysmal. All in all, it sucked, and continues to suck, for a buttload of money.

133 BryanS  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:15:28pm

re: #121 Charles

Maybe the execs in this company make up for their lack in business ethics by having really good family values /

134 A Man for all Seasons  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:18:42pm

re: #130 HoosierHoops

Yes..But not accurate..Data Centers run in a cloud...
Behind the scenes DC's run on VM servers...

Oh and SAN's cutting edge technology is Virtual also.. All LUNS are virtualized. It's a fact of life...

135 webevintage  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:19:27pm

So I wonder who at the GOP has a BIL that owns or has lots o' bucks invested in SMARTech?

136 Gus  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:19:42pm

GOP Facebook image alert:

[Link: www.facebook.com...]

It reads:


Miscegenation is a crime against American Values.

Repeal Loving v. Virginia

Miscegenation means: a mixture of races; especially : marriage, cohabitation, or sexual intercourse between a white person and a member of another race.

Loving v. Virginia, 388 U.S. 1 (1967)[1], was a landmark civil rights case in which the United States Supreme Court, by a 9-0 vote, declared Virginia's anti-miscegenation statute, the "Racial Integrity Act of 1924", unconstitutional, thereby overturning Pace v. Alabama (1883) and ending all race-based legal restrictions on marriage in the United States.

137 Four More Tears  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:20:56pm

re: #136 Gus 802

This is disgusting.

138 BryanS  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:21:23pm

re: #130 HoosierHoops

Yes..But not accurate..Data Centers run in a cloud...
Behind the scenes DC's run on VM servers...

So yeah, they may be running virtual servers, but you're thinking about shared hosting, I was talking about dedicated hosting--as in the actual servers/hardware. Though I may choose to run some vmware instances--depending how I implemented things, not very likely if my budget was ~$100k per month--I sure as heck wouldn't pay for virtual hosting at that rate.

139 Gus  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:22:05pm

re: #137 JasonA

This is disgusting.

It was added on October 20. No one reported it, yet, and no one is moderating the site -- yet again.

140 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:23:27pm

re: #136 Gus 802

Ugh, The picture seems to be of Obama eating fried chicken.

141 Ojoe  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:23:58pm

The weekly World News really IS the world's only reliable newspaper.

Ice skating bear kills people in rehearsal. Attack of the 50 ft. Palin. etc.

142 Gus  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:24:03pm

re: #140 Killgore Trout

Ugh, The picture seems to be of Obama eating fried chicken.

That was actually the first thing I noticed.

143 Four More Tears  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:24:40pm

The rest of those photos aren't much better for the official Facebook page of a political party. Moderate it or don't have it.

144 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:24:50pm

re: #139 Gus 802

Here's another one from the same user.

145 BryanS  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:25:18pm

re: #131 SixDegrees

Yup. Even if you toss in large expenditures for security measures that would be required for such a site, I can't imagine running up that kind of tab. Somethin' ain't quite right.

Yeah, for a huge site expected to get millions of hits a day, I think $20k per month is more about right if you went with primo hosting.

146 pdc_lgf  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:26:01pm

re: #128 Liberally Conservative

Fun quote for the day. Written by a cynical manipulator, in the 1920s:

"... likewise the masses love a commander more than a petitioner and feel inwardly more satisfied by a doctrine, tolerating no other beside itself, than by the granting of a liberalistic freedom with which, as a rule they can do little, and are prone to feel that they have been abandoned. They are equally unaware of their shameless spiritual terrorization and the hideous abuse of their human freedom, for they absolutely fail to suspect the inner insanity of the whole doctrine. All they see is the ruthless force and brutality of its calculated manifestations, to which they always submit in the end."

- copied this out of an old book. Hope I got it right.

147 Gus  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:26:15pm

re: #144 Killgore Trout

Here's another one from the same user.

I was trying to figure that one out. I don't know why if they went and spent over 1 million dollars for hosting service they didn't use the money for 24/7 moderation of all the sites. I wonder if they even care?

148 Bagua  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:27:56pm

re: #137 JasonA

This is disgusting.

Seconded. Disgusting, outrageous and un-American.

149 A Man for all Seasons  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:28:19pm

re: #138 BryanS

So yeah, they may be running virtual servers, but you're thinking about shared hosting, I was talking about dedicated hosting--as in the actual servers/hardware. Though I may choose to run some vmware instances--depending how I implemented things, not very likely if my budget was ~$100k per month--I sure as heck wouldn't pay for virtual hosting at that rate.

Shhh! Listen if we can get the GOP to give us a 100k to host..I'll split it with you.. I'm a big 10 dollar Godaddy.com guy...
*wink*

150 reine.de.tout  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:28:25pm

re: #140 Killgore Trout

Ugh, The picture seems to be of Obama eating fried chicken.

I think it's fried fish.
doesn't matter - the unflattering photo placed with that caption is sicksicksick.
As is the caption with the Mother Theresa photo.
I'd love to know who "gee dub" is.

151 Stanghazi  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:30:35pm

re: #147 Gus 802

Those photos appear to be on the GOP Facebook page. They need to hire A LOT of moderators.

152 BryanS  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:30:52pm

re: #149 HoosierHoops

Shhh! Listen if we can get the GOP to give us a 100k to host..I'll split it with you.. I'm a big 10 dollar Godaddy.com guy...
*wink*

Apparently welfare is all the rage within the Republican party--so long as the recipients are other Republicans. There's probably no need for us to whisper such an open secret.

153 BryanS  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:31:24pm

re: #144 Killgore Trout

Here's another one from the same user.

Disgusting.

154 Randall Gross  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:31:31pm

re: #3 Charles

This wasn't even satire -- it was pure crap. It shows how desperate the right wing is to believe anything bad about Barack Obama that they didn't dismiss this badly written pile of rubbish instantly.

Especially from a blogger who's pulled similar stunts in the past

155 reine.de.tout  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:31:31pm

re: #144 Killgore Trout

Here's another one from the same user.

This one seems to be encouraging people to avoid cooperating with the census.

The Official GOP website should not have things on it encouraging people to avoid the legal census requirements.

156 Gus  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:31:46pm

re: #151 Stanley Sea

Those photos appear to be on the GOP Facebook page. They need to hire A LOT of moderators.

That would be my advice. I'm finding these rather casually on a daily basis. No one seems to pay any attention to the "report" button.

157 reine.de.tout  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:33:16pm

re: #156 Gus 802

That would be my advice. I'm finding these rather casually on a daily basis. No one seems to pay any attention to the "report" button.

In fact, some of those photos have comments indicating approval.

158 pdc_lgf  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:33:20pm

re: #155 reine.de.tout

The smartest thing they can do is just shut down the site and start over, after visiting the Wizard of Oz and asking for a brain.

159 Gus  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:34:35pm

re: #157 reine.de.tout

In fact, some of those photos have comments indicating approval.

Yes, on the GOP site. They've been spammed by the Paul Bots and apparently they're OK with the sloppiness of it and the questionable photos like the one about the census.

160 Four More Tears  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:34:44pm

re: #144 Killgore Trout

Here's another one from the same user.

O.O

No words...

161 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:34:50pm

re: #10 Eowyn2

I got the impression that limbaugh (whom I heard during the 1st half of his show say that it was all probably a hoax) was sarcastically rubbing salt in the wound of the 'fake but accurate' crowd with an "if its good for the goose, its good for the gander" He did repeatedly play the Obama speech with the redistribution of wealth meme whenever he said "I know that's how Obama thinks because he has said so"

I can't think of anyone who has gotten more mileage out of 'fake but accurate' than Rush.

162 Randall Gross  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:34:57pm

The Republican party is right now in the same death spiral that the left got caught in post 2000: they drank too much of their own kook-aid during the dirty tricks campaign season, and now they are caught in a repeating, merciless spin cycle that's emptied the tub of all grey matter.

163 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:35:13pm

re: #155 reine.de.tout

Also with the murder of Bill Sparkman any census worker would be terrified to know on that door. It's clearly intended to intimidate.

164 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:35:52pm

re: #15 trendsurfer

Back in the early nineties it was the same crap. What's mind boggling is how the Right supported Hillary for President over McCain after claiming time after time that she was a radical marxist out to destroy the country and the Constitution. All these RW pundits do is poison any and all political discourse to the point that no national problem can ever be rationally addressed.

"She may be a radical Marxist, but at least she isn't John McCain."

165 reine.de.tout  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:36:02pm

re: #158 pdc_lgf

The smartest thing they can do is just shut down the site and start over, after visiting the Wizard of Oz and asking for a brain.

The first thing they need to do is get a refund from that company that's handling their website.

Then they need to find a new company.

166 reine.de.tout  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:37:41pm

re: #163 Killgore Trout

Also with the murder of Bill Sparkman any census worker would be terrified to know on that door. It's clearly intended to intimidate.

Yep! You're right!
I didn't catch that it was a photo of somebody's door with those signs affixed!

167 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:39:40pm

re: #19 arethusa

Glad the hoax was uncovered, but I must say I'm mystified by this obsession with finding college theses (the Obamas and McDonnell in Virginia). We're not electing people fresh out of college with the inexperience and naivete that implies. They're 20, 25, 30 years on in life now. Don't people change their opinions, even their politics, over the course of their lives? I'm embarrassed by my college writing - it no longer represents what I think.

If anyone now in office ever wrote something really radical, spacey, and Marxist influenced, their college papers are probably the best bet. After that, they grew up. So the dream, I think, is to track down the college thesis where Obama or whoever says "my life's goal is to violently dismantle the oppressive white-ruled capitalist government of the United States, and institute an era of peace, communism and granola bars. Viva la revolucion!"

Hell, I know people who talked like that in college. Most of them are now suburban moms who vote Democrat and worry about car payments.

168 BryanS  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:41:06pm

Was going to take a peak at instapundit, and they are down now--as is all of Pajamas Media for me anyway. Wonder if the plug has been pulled on this Republican hosting company :)

169 reine.de.tout  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:41:18pm

re: #15 trendsurfer

Back in the early nineties it was the same crap. What's mind boggling is how the Right supported Hillary for President over McCain after claiming time after time that she was a radical marxist out to destroy the country and the Constitution. All these RW pundits do is poison any and all political discourse to the point that no national problem can ever be rationally addressed.

Pundits of any flavor get paid, it seems, in proportion to the level of controversy they're able to generate.,

170 BryanS  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:41:38pm

re: #168 BryanS

well, it's back...

171 pdc_lgf  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:44:44pm

re: #161 SanFranciscoZionist

Question. I am aware of two instances when Obama spoke about redistribution.

1. A radio interview where he pointed out that the Supreme Court didn't go for redistribution as an antidote for discrimination.

2. A remark - I think it was in the interchange which catapulted Joe The Plumber into his brief celebrity - about spreading the wealth around.

Presumably there's other stuff?

172 Ojoe  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:45:28pm

re: #158 pdc_lgf

Close down the GOP and start over.

I think we are seeing the closing down before our eyes.

173 [deleted]  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:46:00pm
174 avanti  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:47:09pm

re: #167 SanFranciscoZionist

If anyone now in office ever wrote something really radical, spacey, and Marxist influenced, their college papers are probably the best bet. After that, they grew up. So the dream, I think, is to track down the college thesis where Obama or whoever says "my life's goal is to violently dismantle the oppressive white-ruled capitalist government of the United States, and institute an era of peace, communism and granola bars. Viva la revolucion!"

Hell, I know people who talked like that in college. Most of them are now suburban moms who vote Democrat and worry about car payments.

Sounds like one of my Studebaker friends, a ex-hippie, recreational pharmacologist that protested against the man in the 60's. Now a millionaire west cast distributor for a energy drink and a fiscal conservative.

175 pdc_lgf  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:47:21pm

re: #173 Dustoff-507

I was talking only about the website. I can't believe the GOP at its worst is going to tolerate the site much longer. What were/are they thinking?

176 irving  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:47:25pm

re: #78 Charles

This episode proves that you can put just about anything on the Internet and right wing bloggers and Rush Limbaugh will believe it -- as long as it's negative toward Barack Obama.

Hmmm...

Say, Charles.

Has it occurred to you to test this thesis out?...

177 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:47:35pm

re: #173 Dustoff-507

You did a bad job of not having anything to do with LGF tonight. Try harder- like not logging in again.

178 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:48:13pm

re: #171 pdc_lgf

Presumably there's other stuff?

Probably but remember that Reagan's trickle down economics could also be interpreted as redistribution of wealth. The Dems and liberals aren't as friendly to wealthy as the Republicans are. It's nothing really new or scandalous.

179 A Man for all Seasons  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:48:24pm

Hard to believe I got every answer right for the baseball questions category on Jeopardy tonight..What a fluke...Bull Durham being the answer to the 1000 dollar question? Please!
I love Jeopardy!

180 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:51:43pm

Who had 173 in the flounce pool?

181 albusteve  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:52:03pm

re: #178 Killgore Trout

Probably but remember that Reagan's trickle down economics could also be interpreted as redistribution of wealth. The Dems and liberals aren't as friendly to wealthy as the Republicans are. It's nothing really new or scandalous.

surprisingly, since congressional democrats are far wealthier than republicans...it's not wealth they are unfriendly to it's small business capitalism

182 Achilles Tang  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:52:29pm

What's funny is that Limbaugh (or his staff most likely) reads blogs from banned LGF posters. Probably one of the same overpaid researchers will read this too.

There's that tingle up my leg again...

183 pdc_lgf  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:52:56pm

re: #178 Killgore Trout

I understand. What I'm curious about is where this "Obama the Ardent Redistributionist" stuff is coming from.

By the way -- can my post #175 be deleted. I responded without re-reading what I wrote. I just assumed that - as often happens - I wrote sloppily.

184 avanti  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:53:19pm

Annie Leibovitz s a great photographer:
Obama Family Portrait.

185 pdc_lgf  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:56:36pm

re: #181 albusteve

I know that some of the proposed jiggering of the tax code will hurt guys who own their own companies. I'd be interested to hear more examples. I'd rather take my medicine here, then get razzed by my Republican amigos.

186 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:56:43pm

re: #136 Gus 802

GOP Facebook image alert:

[Link: www.facebook.com...]

It reads:


Miscegenation means: a mixture of races; especially : marriage, cohabitation, or sexual intercourse between a white person and a member of another race.

Loving v. Virginia, 388 U.S. 1 (1967)[1], was a landmark civil rights case in which the United States Supreme Court, by a 9-0 vote, declared Virginia's anti-miscegenation statute, the "Racial Integrity Act of 1924", unconstitutional, thereby overturning Pace v. Alabama (1883) and ending all race-based legal restrictions on marriage in the United States.

RACISTS SUCK!

187 Guanxi88  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:57:11pm

re: #184 avanti

Annie Leibovitz s a great photographer:
Obama Family Portrait.

Nice photo as-is. Once she goes to work on it a bit (gotta fix up the background a hair, I think) it'll be stunning.

And I don' even like the guy.

188 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:57:18pm

re: #183 pdc_lgf

What I'm curious about is where this "Obama the Ardent Redistributionist" stuff is coming from.


Some of it's imaginary but The Dems are going to raise taxes on the highest tax brackets. I don't expect it's going to be anything outrageous but it does get some people exited.

189 footballrules  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:57:19pm

Ledeen is right about the real threat to the USA and the free world. He has been correct in saying that Iran has been, for many years, the real threat to civil society throughout the world.

190 Gus  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:58:01pm

re: #186 SanFranciscoZionist

RACISTS SUCK!

Yeah they do. That's one of the worst I've seen so far.

191 albusteve  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:58:10pm

re: #184 avanti

Annie Leibovitz s a great photographer:
Obama Family Portrait.

poor Annie, fame is there but her fortune is long gone...creditors hound her and she can't afford her extravagant lifestyle...after all she's done, she's flat broke

192 wrenchwench  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:58:47pm

Malkin calls Dede Scozzafava "extremist fringe". She's talking to G. Gordon Liddy. Big ad segment in the middle, mostly for gold.

193 Four More Tears  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 4:59:45pm

re: #192 wrenchwench

Malkin calls Dede Scozzafava "extremist fringe". She's talking to G. Gordon Liddy. Big ad segment in the middle, mostly for gold.

Malkin needs to take a look around and realize that Dede's not the one on the fringe.

194 pdc_lgf  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:00:36pm

re: #188 Killgore Trout

So he unvoiced implication is that the revenue raised is going to be bestowed upon individuals of modest means? I don't mean that you are implying it. I just want to get my ducks in a row, by asking the questions.

195 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:00:37pm

re: #144 Killgore Trout

Here's another one from the same user.

May I state for the record that this person is running up quite a bit on his or her karmic tab, and may want to reconsider?

196 A Man for all Seasons  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:00:41pm

re: #189 footballrules

Ledeen is right about the real threat to the USA and the free world. He has been correct in saying that Iran has been, for many years, the real threat to civil society throughout the world.

Hey you!

197 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:02:50pm

re: #146 pdc_lgf

Fun quote for the day. Written by a cynical manipulator, in the 1920s:

"... likewise the masses love a commander more than a petitioner and feel inwardly more satisfied by a doctrine, tolerating no other beside itself, than by the granting of a liberalistic freedom with which, as a rule they can do little, and are prone to feel that they have been abandoned. They are equally unaware of their shameless spiritual terrorization and the hideous abuse of their human freedom, for they absolutely fail to suspect the inner insanity of the whole doctrine. All they see is the ruthless force and brutality of its calculated manifestations, to which they always submit in the end."

- copied this out of an old book. Hope I got it right.

Main Kampf?

198 The Shadow Do  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:03:17pm

re: #192 wrenchwench

Malkin calls Dede Scozzafava "extremist fringe". She's talking to G. Gordon Liddy. Big ad segment in the middle, mostly for gold.

Said without the slightest hint of irony. Funny.

199 albusteve  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:03:56pm

re: #194 pdc_lgf

So he unvoiced implication is that the revenue raised is going to be bestowed upon individuals of modest means? I don't mean that you are implying it. I just want to get my ducks in a row, by asking the questions.

consider cash for clunkers

200 Ojoe  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:04:14pm

re: #189 footballrules

And we let the mullahs have a whole country as a sanctuary where they can raise any army, build any weapon, hatch any plot?

Are we nuts?

I guess so.

201 Four More Tears  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:05:00pm

re: #195 SanFranciscoZionist

May I state for the record that this person is running up quite a bit on his or her karmic tab, and may want to reconsider?

When I searched Facebook for Gee Dub the last thing I was expecting to see was an African-American woman. Certainly opened my eyes a bit.

202 [deleted]  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:05:31pm
203 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:06:15pm

re: #202 chazmo

Why not, like, stop logging in?...

204 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:06:22pm

re: #202 chazmo

Don't let the door hit ya.

205 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:06:35pm

re: #171 pdc_lgf

Question. I am aware of two instances when Obama spoke about redistribution.

1. A radio interview where he pointed out that the Supreme Court didn't go for redistribution as an antidote for discrimination.

2. A remark - I think it was in the interchange which catapulted Joe The Plumber into his brief celebrity - about spreading the wealth around.

Presumably there's other stuff?

Not that I'm aware of.

206 albusteve  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:07:01pm

chazmo no mo

207 Stanghazi  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:07:24pm

my first live flounce

208 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:07:40pm

It's getting flouncerrific in here!

Happens every time the patron saint of the wingnuts is criticized.

209 Gus  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:07:54pm

re: #192 wrenchwench

Malkin calls Dede Scozzafava "extremist fringe". She's talking to G. Gordon Liddy. Big ad segment in the middle, mostly for gold.

Somehow I don't picture Dede Scozzafava as a "wild radical." If people think she is then they have a problem. I can think of many Republicans that didn't meet the more recent far-right litmus test that were similar -- one of them being Millicent Fenwick of New Jersey.

The former governor of New York, George Pataki, was considered a liberal Republican by many and he was pro-choice and pro-gay rights. None of this a new phenomenon except for the recent hysteria by Malkin, Liddy, et al.

As far as I know, Scozzafava, is not for "card check" and besides that, that legislation is gone for the most part. She also gets an A+ from the NRA. G Gordon Liddy was sentenced to 20 years in prison but it was commuted by President Carter.

210 [deleted]  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:09:45pm
211 avanti  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:09:52pm

re: #191 albusteve

poor Annie, fame is there but her fortune is long gone...creditors hound her and she can't afford her extravagant lifestyle...after all she's done, she's flat broke

I had no idea of her troubles, she earns mad money.

Money trouble.

212 pdc_lgf  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:10:12pm

re: #197 SanFranciscoZionist

The book of essays sez Mein Kampf. I don't have the juice to slog through and locate the quite there.

My point is that the all propagandists probably study the NSDAP playbook. My particular focus is the phrase "they absolutely fail to suspect the inner insanity of the whole doctrine."

Limbaugh & Malkin are who I have in mind. I'll regurgitate what I said earlier, at the risk of being (even more of) an irritating dweeb: a university thesis probably goes into the university library. It's probably available on microfilm.

213 albusteve  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:10:41pm

re: #205 SanFranciscoZionist

Not that I'm aware of.

are you aware of the bill to pay off medicaid docs that was defeated in the Senate yesterday?...I posted two pieces about it...google it...a dishonest scam even some donks wouldn't touch...that fruitcake Harry Reid is a lying scumbag

214 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:13:33pm

re: #209 Gus 802

Somehow I don't picture Dede Scozzafava as a "wild radical." If people think she is then they have a problem.

There's an old joke that the reason women can't do math is that men keep telling them six inches is ten.

I feel a similar confusion in political matters. People keep pointing at mild-mannered American politicians and screaming 'Marxist! Maoist! Facist!"

215 albusteve  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:13:49pm

But imagine that you are a small business owner, and just consider—why expand now or rehire? since (a) I have no idea what the new taxes will be; (b) I have no idea about what all these new regulations, cap and trade, card check; etc will cost me; (c) I am beginning to think all this trash talk about bad doctors, insurance companies, the Chamber of Commerce, CEOs, the wealthy, etc. suggests this administration does not like me or what I do; (d) the government is everywhere: Ford now must compete against Government Motors; Banks against government-affiliated Citibank; Blue Cross against the public option; and so on. If I have a business, somewhere down the line there is going to be a government-run rival, sort of like your local can’t go broke PBS station in every avenue of commerce. Why insist on ensuring hustling employees when the rival, overpaid DMV-like work force can’t go broke whatever they do?

VDH

216 footballrules  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:14:28pm

I'll say this: If there were one dictatorship that would make the world a much safe, more stable place if it were destroyed, it would be Iran. However, if attacked, no oil would flow from the Mid-East for a month. The could shut down the Persian Gulf for weeks. They have us in a BAD situation. Hey, the Arabs have a long hatred for the Persians. The Saudis are thinking about a nuke program because of Iran, not Israel. What should that tell the world?

217 pdc_lgf  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:15:25pm

re: #210 The Shadow Do

I am not challenging you by making this request: is there someplace I can read about it? I'd like to know. Of course, please don't go to any trouble. If something is fresh in your mind, then pointing me to it would be a help. Thanks.

218 albusteve  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:17:02pm

re: #216 footballrules

I'll say this: If there were one dictatorship that would make the world a much safe, more stable place if it were destroyed, it would be Iran. However, if attacked, no oil would flow from the Mid-East for a month. The could shut down the Persian Gulf for weeks. They have us in a BAD situation. Hey, the Arabs have a long hatred for the Persians. The Saudis are thinking about a nuke program because of Iran, not Israel. What should that tell the world?

we don't buy much oil from the ME any more...less than 20% and thats from SA...we can take the hit, Iran can't

219 Ojoe  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:17:08pm

re: #216 footballrules

Every day, every hour, the centrifuges are spinning, storing up death.

They'll deal it as soon as they have it.

That is what I think.

Meanwhile we cannot take our eyes from the fascinating political circus.

We are such fools.

220 Gus  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:17:18pm

re: #214 SanFranciscoZionist

There's an old joke that the reason women can't do math is that men keep telling them six inches is ten.

I feel a similar confusion in political matters. People keep pointing at mild-mannered American politicians and screaming 'Marxist! Maoist! Facist!"

Yeah, it's gotten rahter pathetic with the wild calls of Maoist, Marxist, etc. They must be clueless because I know what a real Maoist or far leftist is like and someone like Scozzafava is not even close to being a far leftist. But, that's the current alarmist tactic.

221 Randall Gross  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:17:44pm

It's Friday, time to start of with some smooth jazz; now who's drinking what?


222 albusteve  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:18:00pm

re: #217 pdc_lgf

I am not challenging you by making this request: is there someplace I can read about it? I'd like to know. Of course, please don't go to any trouble. If something is fresh in your mind, then pointing me to it would be a help. Thanks.

I just suggested that in 213...go do it and tell me what you think

223 The Shadow Do  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:19:18pm

Sorry

224 pdc_lgf  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:19:26pm

re: #215 albusteve

So the concern is that the Obama Administration is expansionist, and will keep making inroads into the private sector? Particularly that part of the private sector that's most vulnerable - can't pass the costs along to its customers, and will see its margins shrink?

225 albusteve  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:19:30pm

re: #221 Thanos

It's Friday, time to start of with some smooth jazz; now who's drinking what?

[Video]

SoCo with a spash of water on ice

226 footballrules  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:19:54pm

I say stand up to Iran, but let us be prepared for the consequences. It will be ugly. It may be unavoidable. Iran can cause BIG problems. The question is whether the problems (short term) are worth the overthrow of the most evil GOVERNMENT on earth.

227 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:20:35pm

re: #221 Thanos

who's drinking what?

I've discovered Bota Box wines. It's really cheap and very drinkable. I've only tried the Cab Sav so far but I'll pick up the Merlot next time I go shopping.

228 Randall Gross  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:20:51pm

re: #225 albusteve

SoCo with a spash of water on ice

Maison Surrene from Galtaud here, it's an unblended cognac.

229 albusteve  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:21:36pm

re: #224 pdc_lgf

So the concern is that the Obama Administration is expansionist, and will keep making inroads into the private sector? Particularly that part of the private sector that's most vulnerable - can't pass the costs along to its customers, and will see its margins shrink?

yes...well said, GM is a perfect example...so what did you think about cash for clunkers?...or the Medicaid payola yesterday in the Senate?

230 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:21:42pm

re: #221 Thanos

It's Friday, time to start of with some smooth jazz; now who's drinking what?

[Video]

If you have a good Chardonnay, I'm interested.

231 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:21:43pm

re: #226 footballrules

I say stand up to Iran, but let us be prepared for the consequences. It will be ugly. It may be unavoidable. Iran can cause BIG problems. The question is whether the problems (short term) are worth the overthrow of the most evil GOVERNMENT on earth.

You think they outmatch the Norks on evil? They're a whole different ball of wax, obviously, so this is just a 'could the Hulk beat up Superman' sort of question.

232 A Man for all Seasons  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:21:57pm

re: #214 SanFranciscoZionist

There's an old joke that the reason women can't do math is that men keep telling them six inches is ten.

I feel a similar confusion in political matters. People keep pointing at mild-mannered American politicians and screaming 'Marxist! Maoist! Facist!"

Hey..Arriving in the Bay Area on 12-17-09 to meet our daughter at UC Davis for Christmas...She isn't coming home this year...
Sometime during the week we will be having lunch in the City..Would love for you and your husband to join us...
Regards

233 albusteve  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:22:40pm

re: #228 Thanos

Maison Surrene from Galtaud here, it's an unblended cognac.

you have style bro...Southern Comfort is just within easy reach

234 footballrules  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:22:42pm

Norks? Who dey?

235 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:22:56pm

re: #232 HoosierHoops

Hey..Arriving in the Bay Area on 12-17-09 to meet our daughter at UC Davis for Christmas...She isn't coming home this year...
Sometime during the week we will be having lunch in the City..Would love for you and your husband to join us...
Regards

Distinctly possible--remind me closer the time, eh?

236 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:23:11pm

re: #221 Thanos

now who's drinking what?

Coffee!
/I don't drink :)

re: #234 footballrules

Norks? Who dey?

North Korea.

237 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:23:25pm

re: #234 footballrules

Norks? Who dey?

North Korea. Sorry, little nickname.

238 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:23:26pm

re: #234 footballrules

Norks? Who dey?

North Koreans.

239 Randall Gross  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:25:32pm

re: #236 Varek Raith

Hey, coffee works. I like Tarrazu right now, at medium roast this stuff is great.

240 footballrules  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:25:48pm

Yikes, N. Korean GOVERNMENT is as bad. You're right. It's a dangerous world. Notice the GOVERNMENTS of Iran and N. Korea are evil. The Persians and Koreans represent great civilizations. Notice that both are repressive dictatorships. We need to work hard to destroy the dictatorships, not the people and civilizations. Neither represent the people of those countries.

241 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:26:31pm

re: #239 Thanos

Hey, coffee works. I like Tarrazu right now, at medium roast this stuff is great.

Gonna have to try that, thanks!

242 Ginsu  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:27:00pm

re: #231 SanFranciscoZionist

True, they're both real bad players. With Iran my concern would be that they would use some splinter group of Hezbollah as their delivery system so they could try to hit Israel with no forewarning and then claim they had nothing to do with it.

243 Ojoe  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:27:02pm

BBL

244 Gus  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:27:04pm

BBIAW

245 pdc_lgf  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:28:01pm

re: #229 albusteve

I didn't follow cash for clunkers. What Congress does I don't blame on Obama.

By the way - I've got like about zero hand to eye coordination - my reply to you wa meant as a reply to #210 (The Shadow Do). Things keep moving in the left-hand-side window. Or something.

In any event, your posts give me some good insight into the issues I'm concerned about.

246 Guanxi88  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:28:12pm

re: #230 Dark_Falcon

If you have a good Chardonnay, I'm interested.

Hell, I'd settle for a bad port, just about now.

247 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:28:16pm

Have you seen this 6-foot lizard? It’s on the loose in Northeast Austin


The lizard is not aggressive, police say, but it should not be handled or trapped. Instead, police say to call Animal Control at 311.

“At this time, there has been no reptile to human contact,” police said in a release today.

Here is a picture of the lost lizard:

248 avanti  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:29:11pm

re: #229 albusteve

yes...well said, GM is a perfect example...so what did you think about cash for clunkers?...or the Medicaid payola yesterday in the Senate?

Medicaid payola ? They have been trying to fix underpayment for years, the finding was the issue.

"The Washington Post: "The 'doc fix' has become a near-annual ritual in Congress: Lawmakers routinely override the formula that sets Medicare payments to doctors, a move to prevent physicians from turning away Medicare patients because they are paid too little for the visits." While most lawmakers agree that the formula, "established in a 1997 deficit-reduction bill, is a failed model, producing the enormous sum needed to eliminate it has proven impossible." The Post reports that "although Republicans participated in talks to find ways to offset the $247 billion, no single revenue source found consensus, and GOP senators decided to turn Wednesday's vote into a referendum on deficit spending and the price tags of the huge health-care reform bills slated to come to the House and the Senate next month" (Murray, 10/22)."

249 Guanxi88  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:29:14pm

re: #247 Killgore Trout

Have you seen this 6-foot lizard? It’s on the loose in Northeast Austin

Yeah, it would be Northeast. Thank goodness it wasn't South Austin, where just last week I saw a few members of our colony of wild parrots.

250 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:29:27pm

re: #247 Killgore Trout

Have you seen this 6-foot lizard? It’s on the loose in Northeast Austin

My lawyer tells me not to comment on that particular story...
/

251 pdc_lgf  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:29:55pm

re: #246 Guanxi88

Any port in a storm.

252 Randall Gross  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:30:21pm

hrmmm.. music thread

253 pdc_lgf  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:31:13pm

re: #248 avanti

Yup.

254 simoom  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:32:09pm

Newt Gingrich - Oct. 25th: “Twitternactment” Re-enactment of the Battle of Trenton on Twitter

To celebrate the launch of Newt Gingrich (@newtgingrich) and Bill Forstchen’s new book, To Try Men’s Souls, about the Christmas Night 1776 crossing of the Delaware River and attack on the Hessians stationed in Trenton, NJ, St. Martin’s Press and Gingrich Communications are excited to announce the first ever twitter reenactment of the crossing!

The “Twitternactment” will begin on Sunday, October 25th, starting at 4:30pm ET. Twitter users can follow General George Washington (@genwashington76), Jonathan Van Dorn, a private in the colonial army (@pvtvandornNJ), and Hessian commander Colonel Johann Rall (@colonelrall), as they simulate the crossing of the Delaware River and the attack on Trenton the following morning in real time.

I hate to admit it, but this is bizarre enough that I think I'll have to tune in - or at least see how it played out after the fact :P.

255 Guanxi88  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:32:18pm

re: #251 pdc_lgf

Any port in a storm.

Exactly - I'm not above cutting the stuff with 7-Up, if that's what it takes to make it palatable. (And I know whereof I speak - drank some gosh-awful stuff in my day, including "white port," cheap sherry, and some crap called "Fortissimo" a sorta fortified burgundy crap.)

256 A Man for all Seasons  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:32:50pm

re: #235 SanFranciscoZionist

Distinctly possible--remind me closer the time, eh?

You betcha...As a Napa Valley Boy...It is great to have some kind of roots back home.. My home was in the X000 block of St. Helena Highway outside of Yountville...I'm am very proud to have Children that were born and raised in Cali...

257 Wozza Matter?  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:33:03pm

must've found it in the seekrit Library of Congress with the fourth "Kenyan Birth Certificate", the "Death Books", Geithners copy of "The Little Red Book" and "The Estate Tax and You - How It's Repeal Will Help Those Earning Less Than 20k"... also it's right next to "Beck Interviews Obama"... and the report from the Heritage Foundation entitled "Private Healthcare Profits and You - How that $100,000,000 Was Actually More Useful For Stockholders Than Your Liver Transplant"

258 albusteve  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:33:28pm

re: #245 pdc_lgf

I didn't follow cash for clunkers. What Congress does I don't blame on Obama.

By the way - I've got like about zero hand to eye coordination - my reply to you wa meant as a reply to #210 (The Shadow Do). Things keep moving in the left-hand-side window. Or something.

In any event, your posts give me some good insight into the issues I'm concerned about.

BO owns Congress and if you didn't follow the cash for clunkers scam, then you have not paid attention

259 pdc_lgf  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:33:28pm

re: #255 Guanxi88

Richard's Wild Irish Rose? Ripple? Thunderbird? Yikes!

260 Wozza Matter?  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:33:46pm

re: #257 wozzablog

sorry, i know i posted it in the last thread, but hey, i'm a shameless whore with no new material.

261 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:35:49pm

re: #254 simoom

Newt Gingrich - Oct. 25th: “Twitternactment” Re-enactment of the Battle of Trenton on Twitter

I hate to admit it, but this is bizarre enough that I think I'll have to tune in - or at least see how it played out after the fact :P.

It's actually a good idea. It's designed to get Americans in touch with their historical roots. Say what you want about Newt Gingrich, but he actually understands something about bring the issues he cares about into venues where people will see them. If only the rest of the GOP were that smart.

262 Randall Gross  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:35:49pm

re: #258 albusteve

BO owns Congress and if you didn't follow the cash for clunkers scam, then you have not paid attention

You know what, I have a theory that it's the other way around. Congress just uses Obama as their lightning rod.

263 pdc_lgf  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:36:04pm

re: #258 albusteve

I havn't paid attention to that. You are absolutely right. I know there was some sort of rebate program. I didn't/don't know the scammified aspects of the situation.

I sincerely doubt that Obama can even rent Congress, let alone own it.

264 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:36:18pm

re: #258 albusteve

BO owns Congress and if you didn't follow the cash for clunkers scam, then you have not paid attention

And if you think Obama owns congress you haven't been paying attention.
/Pelosi's been a thorn to the WH.

265 albusteve  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:36:45pm

re: #248 avanti

Medicaid payola ? They have been trying to fix underpayment for years, the finding was the issue.

"The Washington Post: "The 'doc fix' has become a near-annual ritual in Congress: Lawmakers routinely override the formula that sets Medicare payments to doctors, a move to prevent physicians from turning away Medicare patients because they are paid too little for the visits." While most lawmakers agree that the formula, "established in a 1997 deficit-reduction bill, is a failed model, producing the enormous sum needed to eliminate it has proven impossible." The Post reports that "although Republicans participated in talks to find ways to offset the $247 billion, no single revenue source found consensus, and GOP senators decided to turn Wednesday's vote into a referendum on deficit spending and the price tags of the huge health-care reform bills slated to come to the House and the Senate next month" (Murray, 10/22)."

Reid passed it off as a standlone bill...the idea being that the cost would not count against BO's infamous promise of reform not adding to the deficit...you damn well know this...it's deceitful and bogus

266 SeaMonkey  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:36:55pm

Entering "shrieking harpy" in Google brings up Pamela's blog -- is this Charles's doing? Or does everyone call her that?

267 Guanxi88  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:37:21pm

re: #259 pdc_lgf

Richard's Wild Irish Rose? Ripple? Thunderbird? Yikes!

Howzabout homemade port from homemade brandy made outta frozen grape juice concentrate?

268 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:38:38pm

re: #247 Killgore Trout

Have you seen this 6-foot lizard? It’s on the loose in Northeast Austin

OK, who let Austin_Blue out of his cage?

///

269 albusteve  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:39:14pm

re: #262 Thanos

You know what, I have a theory that it's the other way around. Congress just uses Obama as their lightning rod.

I think you are right on the money...he's been slapped over and over by Pelosi on this health care scam...waffling according to her unwavering stand on public option...what a pair

270 Guanxi88  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:39:24pm

re: #266 SeaMonkey

Entering "shrieking harpy" in Google brings up Pamela's blog -- is this Charles's doing? Or does everyone call her that?

If the shrew fits...

271 Four More Tears  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:39:32pm

re: #266 SeaMonkey

Entering "shrieking harpy" in Google brings up Pamela's blog -- is this Charles's doing? Or does everyone call her that?

Huh. I thought Googlebombing didn't work anymore.

272 avanti  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:40:41pm

re: #265 albusteve

Reid passed it off as a standlone bill...the idea being that the cost would not count against BO's infamous promise of reform not adding to the deficit...you damn well know this...it's deceitful and bogus


Fixing a 10 year old problem with medicare payments to doctor was not, nor is not part of health insurance reform, connecting the two is deceitful and bogus, not the other way around.

273 albusteve  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:40:50pm

BO does not own congress...I concede the reverse is true

274 Randall Gross  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:41:07pm

re: #269 albusteve

I think you are right on the money...he's been slapped over and over by Pelosi on this health care scam...waffling according to her unwavering stand on public option...what a pair

He's always seemed to me to be a "general direction" style manager. Says "there's something over there, go do something"... Congress right now is a wreck, and they are the real problem to me.

275 pdc_lgf  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:42:18pm

re: #273 albusteve

In the spirit of our shared appreciation of football - hw abut a double reverse. Then the Statue of Liberty. We'll moidah the bums...

276 albusteve  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:43:12pm

re: #272 avanti

Fixing a 10 year old problem with medicare payments to doctor was not, nor is not part of health insurance reform, connecting the two is deceitful and bogus, not the other way around.

total bullshit...

277 Randall Gross  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:43:56pm

If you aren't listening to the music vid Charles posted upstairs you need to open a tab and do so

278 avanti  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:46:46pm

re: #276 albusteve

total bullshit...

What not true about it ? The under payments for doctors under Medicare will have to be addressed it some point, and what does it to do with health care insurance reform ?

279 pdc_lgf  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:49:16pm

re: #277 Thanos

I gotta go unload groceries. Can someone ask Charles his estimate of Lionel Loueke?

280 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:50:14pm

re: #275 pdc_lgf

In the spirit of our shared appreciation of football - hw abut a double reverse. Then the Statue of Liberty. We'll moidah the bums...

Don't try that against the Bears, cause they'll blitz a play like that into a major loss of yards. So will the Giants.

281 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:50:51pm

re: #227 Killgore Trout

Peter Vella Chardonnay is very drinkable. His other boxed wines *shudders*

282 Randall Gross  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:50:57pm

re: #279 pdc_lgf

I gotta go unload groceries. Can someone ask Charles his estimate of Lionel Loueke?

ummm I think you just did?

283 akarra  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:53:14pm

re: #15 trendsurfer

Back in the early nineties it was the same crap. What's mind boggling is how the Right supported Hillary for President over McCain after claiming time after time that she was a radical marxist out to destroy the country and the Constitution. All these RW pundits do is poison any and all political discourse to the point that no national problem can ever be rationally addressed.

I think you're on to something. But this might be larger than the pundits: how could people in general not think far enough to realize how much they were contradicting themselves?

Just a long guess: It's tricky using the term "the Right" nowadays, just like there's an enormous difference between the rage at DailyKos and the fact the Obama administration has to govern. I'm thinking something like this: there are crazies Right and Left, and when a party is out of power they exercise an inordinate amount of influence until that party gets people elected AND those people who are elected distance themselves from the anger/insanity that fueled their rise.

It's very difficult for me to accept that people who go one second "look at how they abused Bush" and then go "well, I thought Bush paved the way Obama" and at the same time hold up an "Obama = Hitler" sign have any real ideology. It's all conspiracy theory, all anger, and people feel it's completely justified no matter what.

284 akarra  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:57:40pm

re: #34 KernelPanic

Whoah, have no idea as to how accurate this site is but this post is claiming that the disaster that is called "the new GOP.com" website cost 1.4 million dollars! Link is here

Will do my best to make sure more people see this link.

285 zelnaga  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:57:49pm

The left often takes this same attitude with the forged Killian documents that Dan Rather reported on and LGF exposed. "So what if they're fake? Their contents are true!" the left often says, much to the ire of the right. And yet here Rush is doing the same thing...

286 albusteve  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:59:20pm

re: #278 avanti

What not true about it ? The under payments for doctors under Medicare will have to be addressed it some point, and what does it to do with health care insurance reform ?

it's tax money..it will increase the cost of health care and Reid tried to pretend it wouldn't...it does not address the reforms needed for medicare, it's timely payola...payola, designed to keep the AMA in line and endorse the senate's plan

287 oldegeezr  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 5:59:55pm

On the road today, still workin’ for the man. I heard the last five minutes of Rush’s remedy fer what ails his thought process and the total lack of fact checking, of his own, on-air comments.

He actually sounded a bit flummoxed by the fact he had ignorantly [or intentionally] embraced and actually ran with the bogus blog comments, concerning Obama‘s writings as a congressman. Only later; after staff apparently raised the red flags did he realized he’d been punked…!

In context; some guy had just called him to say he was only right 99.2% of the time. Rush claims he’s right 99.3% of the time [in his own mind]…!

How’d she say it goes again, big boye…”In your dreams, Rush!”

288 avanti  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 6:08:39pm

re: #286 albusteve

it's tax money..it will increase the cost of health care and Reid tried to pretend it wouldn't...it does not address the reforms needed for medicare, it's timely payola...payola, designed to keep the AMA in line and endorse the senate's plan

It's annual payola, been going on for years, nothing to do with insurance reform other than a new talking point.

"The Christian Science Monitor has background on the problem: "When Congress passed the 'sustainable growth rate' formula for Medicare in 1997, the aim was to give physicians treating Medicare patients an incentive to rein in costs. Instead, healthcare costs so outstripped the rate of inflation that the formula translated into accelerating cuts for physician payments, driving many in the profession out of the business of serving Medicare patients. Congress has passed a 'fix' every year since 2003 to avert the cuts" (Russell Chaddock, 10/21).

289 oldegeezr  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 6:10:56pm

re: #285 zelnaga

zelnaga…Rush actually, feebly attempted to use that excuse…

“They do it; so what’s up with my bad” [paraphrased]

My Mother cured me of that excuse about seventy years ago…
Oh my, did she…!

290 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 6:14:22pm

re: #62 Charles

I'm still in shock. $1.4 million bucks -- for that?

Nobody said assisted suicide has to be cheap. You get what you pay for, after all.

291 jvic  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 6:15:32pm

Don't tell anybody this, but a friend of mine hacked into Bill Ayres' PC and downloaded the original HTML file of "Obama's" thesis.

292 Gus  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 6:41:35pm

Oh brother. The guy that posted the "Miscegenation is a Crime Against American Values" image at the RNC Facebook site also left this oddball comment:

Gee wrote at 12:42pm yesterday

Racism is necessary in our capitalistic system. To subject ourselves to the the socialist ideal of equality will surely destroy the American way of life. As a black man, racism has served as a great inspiration for me to work harder. God bless the Republican Party and God bless America.

The image is still up there on the Facebook site which is also linked to the GOP dot com site.

Saved a screen shot here.

293 Guanxi88  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 6:52:12pm

re: #292 Gus 802

Oh brother. The guy that posted the "Miscegenation is a Crime Against American Values" image at the RNC Facebook site also left this oddball comment:

The image is still up there on the Facebook site which is also linked to the GOP dot com site.

Saved a screen shot here.

At the risk of going out on a limb, I'd say that's either a clumsy MOBY, or an evil POS posing as a crazy black man, or juut a crazy black man. in principle, i suppose all could be true of the same person.

294 Gus  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 6:54:21pm

re: #293 Guanxi88

At the risk of going out on a limb, I'd say that's either a clumsy MOBY, or an evil POS posing as a crazy black man, or juut a crazy black man. in principle, i suppose all could be true of the same person.

I suppose anything's possible. However, the image shouldn't have been allowed to remain there for almost 3 days.

295 Guanxi88  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 6:55:01pm

re: #294 Gus 802

I suppose anything's possible. However, the image shouldn't have been allowed to remain there for almost 3 days.

Admin's must be busy spamming LGF or spending their money on cheap beer.

296 Gus  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 6:56:13pm

re: #295 Guanxi88

Admin's must be busy spamming LGF or spending their money on cheap beer.

Yeah. No more money left after the spent it all on the hosting contract to the tune of 1.4 million greenbacks.

297 oldegeezr  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 6:56:23pm

Northern Exposure, the 90’s TV, series…?
Every time Maggie [the pilot] put Joel [the doc.] into total remission by stating….

”In your dreams…”

That made the whole evening, perfect…!

Feeble clarifying, reference to my #287 above.

298 Wozza Matter?  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 6:58:16pm

re: #297 oldegeezr

upding for Maggie

299 oldegeezr  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 7:27:36pm
300 Marcus Dracon  Fri, Oct 23, 2009 8:58:15pm

Hmm so Obama isn't the Messiah and he is a Commie, OMG say it ain't so.

301 SixDegrees  Sat, Oct 24, 2009 2:19:30am

re: #266 SeaMonkey

Entering "shrieking harpy" in Google brings up Pamela's blog -- is this Charles's doing? Or does everyone call her that?

I think there was a deliberate effort to Google-bomb her into that position, although it's remarkable how often the word "harpy" has been used to describe Geller by completely independent writers. I referred to her as "the Queen of the Harpies" long before I ever heard the term used here, although I've since decided to grace Michelle Malkin with that title.

302 [deleted]  Sat, Oct 24, 2009 5:06:30am
303 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 24, 2009 5:11:37am
304 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Oct 24, 2009 5:39:51am

re: #300 Marcus Dracon

not just "not the messiah"... .there is - if you are Southern and Republican - a fair chance that he may actually be the actual biblical "Antichrist"


(no sarc tag to be placed here)

305 Sully33  Sat, Oct 24, 2009 6:51:16am

nice to see the fine art of fact checking is alive and well.

306 doubter4444  Sat, Oct 24, 2009 11:29:39am

re: #220 Gus 802

Yeah, it's gotten rahter pathetic with the wild calls of Maoist, Marxist, etc. They must be clueless because I know what a real Maoist or far leftist is like and someone like Scozzafava is not even close to being a far leftist. But, that's the current alarmist tactic.

One name: Wade Churchill
So now, DeDe Scozzafava is now the same as Wade Churchill.
MM has become PETA: A pig is a dog is a boy.

307 Alan K. Henderson  Sat, Oct 24, 2009 3:54:42pm

Note how the MediaMatters video concludes:

RUSH: I have had quotes attributed to me that were made up, and when it was pointed out to the media that the quotes were made up, they said, "It doesn't matter! We know Limbaugh thinks it anyway." Sort of like Dan Rather said, "I don't care if these documents are forged. I know that Bush did what he did at the National Guard. I don't care if the documents are forged." I don't care if the Limbaugh quotes are made up. So, I can say, "I don't care if these quotes are made up. I know Obama thinks it. You know why I know Obama thinks it? Because I've heard him say it."

Rush begins with a jab at MSM hypocrisy, opining that they'd never let him get away with employing the rationale of the race libelers and the Ratherites. Unlike those fake stories, Rush sez, the jumpingpools piece has an element of truth - Obama didn't write that, but he thinks that. Rush continues:

Again, 2001, FM radio station interview in Chicago when he was a state senator in Illinois.

OBAMA 2001: If you look at the victories and failures of the civil rights movement and its litigation strategy in the court, I think where it succeeded was to vest formal rights in previously dispossessed peoples so that, uh, I would now have the right to vote, I would now be able to sit at a lunch counter and -- and order and as long as I could pay for it I'd be okay. But the Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth and sort of more basic issues of political and economic justice in this society.

RUSH: Now, he's talking about the Warren Court "never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth." So we've got a supposed piece from his college thesis at Columbia where he complains that the Constitution didn't talk about the distribution of wealth. So we know that it's on his mind. So even if he didn't say it, I know he thinks it. That's how it works now in the media. And I do know he thinks it because I just heard what I heard, and so did you. Let's see.

The conclusion of the segment also catches my eye:

RUSH: I'm also told that the blog containing the passage on Obama's thesis is a satire blog. [He's misinformed there - the post was satire, no the whole blog] So I shout from the mountaintops: "It was satire!" But we know he thinks it. Good comedy, to be comedy, must contain an element of truth, and we know how he feels about distribution of wealth. He's mad at the courts for not going far enough on it. So we stand by the fabricated quote because we know Obama thinks it anyway. That's how it works in the media today.

Once again Rush satirizes MSM journalistic standards (where emphasis is added).

One thought: isn't this a weird topic for satire? Good satire combines truth with outrageousness, like Doug Adams' Vogons. The part of the jumpinginpools quote I heard wasn't all that outrageous. Aren't all welfare statists miffed that the Founders didn't put redistribution explicitly in the Constitution? Doesn't the alleged quote sound like something a lefty academic would actually write?

Then I remembered something: I hadn't read the original blog post. It turns out to be a mixture of newsy-looking stuff and gems like this:

Entitled Aristocracy Reborn, this paper chronicled the long struggle of the working class against, as Obama put it, "plutocratic thugs with one hand on the money and the other on the government."

The title should have been a dead giveaway - leftist central planners would never identify themselves as aristocrats (even though they are). The "plutocratic thugs" line also seems too honest to be real.

There's also a line about the "single mother of four working three jobs" - that should also have been a dead giveaway.

308 Alan K. Henderson  Sat, Oct 24, 2009 3:57:07pm

Hold the phone - I just noticed that the jumpinginpools post is dated August 25. How did it make the news cycle???

309 OpenTheDoor  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 8:15:14am

re: #95 Charles

I don't think I get your point. Would you care to be more explicit?

I got the Ozzie, both times.
Sometimes I don't understand Progressive sarcasm as well.
Some fell for the "thesis", some didn't, being unable to see the humour in the satire, calling it hypocrisy, is laughable.

310 longrunningfool  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 1:40:26pm

"the letter H for hypocrisy"

How apropos.


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