Sunday Night Video: ‘Between’
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This very inventive, very creepy short film is by Tim Bollinger, titled “Between.”
452 comments
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Killgore Trout Sun, Nov 1, 2009 5:18:38pm |
It was filmed really well. He relied on "Jump scare" a little too much. Still pretty creepy.
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Daniel Ballard Sun, Nov 1, 2009 5:19:23pm |
Superb use of depth of field. looks like it might have been shot with a DSLR.
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Sharmuta Sun, Nov 1, 2009 5:21:45pm |
re: #5 Decatur Deb
Anything with chem warfare goes creepy fast.
Or giant lawn bags full of stuff that can move by itself.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Nov 1, 2009 5:22:40pm |
I saw The Invention of Lying today. Well worth it for Ricky Gervais fans. Has a lot of folks from Arrested Development in it. The movie has a nice BBC production feel to it (in a good way).
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Sharmuta Sun, Nov 1, 2009 5:23:40pm |
re: #8 Killgore Trout
I saw The Invention of Lying today. Well worth it for Ricky Gervais fans. Has a lot of folks from Arrested Development in it. The movie has a nice BBC production feel to it (in a good way).
I love Arrested Development. Was George Michael in it?
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Decatur Deb Sun, Nov 1, 2009 5:26:07pm |
Does this type thread have a topic? As in (OT).
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brookly red Sun, Nov 1, 2009 5:26:47pm |
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 1, 2009 5:26:47pm |
I'm watching Catch me if you Can about Frank Abagnale. Bizarre!
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Killgore Trout Sun, Nov 1, 2009 5:27:56pm |
re: #9 Sharmuta
Not sure. I wasn't really a fan of the show enough to know the characters names. Jason Bateman was in it and the father from the show had a good role. I recognized a few other folks too.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Nov 1, 2009 5:29:13pm |
Ed Morrisey sez...
Conference call with Hoffman campaign
The American Conservative Union’s PAC arranged for a conference call with media and bloggers this evening to discuss the events of the last 48 hours. Among the participants — Matt Burns, a former spokesperson for Dede Scozzafava. Stacy McCain and Eric Odom, who first broke the news of Scozzafava’s withdrawal from the race yesterday, joined as “special guests” of the call.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Nov 1, 2009 5:30:53pm |
I ask if anyone is getting creepy (or inane) fortune cookie phrases
from the space above the "google custom search" box in the
upper right hand screen. Mine now says "left-wing neo-con philosemitic
fascist hedonists".
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Killgore Trout Sun, Nov 1, 2009 5:31:18pm |
re: #15 Sharmuta
Hot Airhead sez...
And Eric Odom made a mess and basically destroyed the Chicago Tea Party movement. I could write a book.Knucklehead on November 1, 2009 at 8:23 PM
Heh.
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Sharmuta Sun, Nov 1, 2009 5:32:03pm |
re: #16 Decatur Deb
I ask if anyone is getting creepy (or inane) fortune cookie phrases
from the space above the "google custom search" box in the
upper right hand screen. Mine now says "left-wing neo-con philosemitic
fascist hedonists".
Those are the rotating titles. Funny and/or odd expressions that have popped up on LGF over the years.
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Charles Johnson Sun, Nov 1, 2009 5:32:46pm |
From the Blogs That Hate Me file: tonight's attack from the kooky right is that I hate America because I pointed out (thanks to simoom!) that NY-23 candidate Doug Hoffman signed one of Glenn Beck's weird blood-brother pledge things, and one of the pledges is: "1. America is Good."
That means I hate America. There's no other explanation. That's just how evil I am.
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Daniel Ballard Sun, Nov 1, 2009 5:35:40pm |
re: #20 Charles
Just wait until you dig up a fraudulent letter.. Was it like this during Rathergate? This vitriolic I mean?
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 1, 2009 5:36:13pm |
re: #14 Killgore Trout
Ed Morrisey sez...
Conference call with Hoffman campaign
Hoffman's special guests?!
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Sharmuta Sun, Nov 1, 2009 5:39:09pm |
re: #20 Charles
From the Blogs That Hate Me file: tonight's attack from the kooky right is that I hate America because I pointed out (thanks to simoom!) that NY-23 candidate Doug Hoffman signed one of Glenn Beck's weird blood-brother pledge things, and one of the pledges is: "1. America is Good."
That means I hate America. There's no other explanation. That's just how evil I am.
Just when you thought their logic couldn't get more pathetic...
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Racer X Sun, Nov 1, 2009 5:39:17pm |
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Killgore Trout Sun, Nov 1, 2009 5:40:49pm |
re: #24 MandyManners
Hoffman's special guests?!
Yup, RSM has even been posting pics of him palling around with Hoffman's staff.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 1, 2009 5:42:02pm |
re: #29 Killgore Trout
Yup, RSM has even been posting pics of him palling around with Hoffman's staff.
If Hoffman doesn't know about RS's racism, he should. There's no excuse for not knowing.
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Charles Johnson Sun, Nov 1, 2009 5:42:57pm |
re: #14 Killgore Trout
Ed Morrisey sez...
Conference call with Hoffman campaignThe American Conservative Union’s PAC arranged for a conference call with media and bloggers this evening to discuss the events of the last 48 hours. Among the participants — Matt Burns, a former spokesperson for Dede Scozzafava. Stacy McCain and Eric Odom, who first broke the news of Scozzafava’s withdrawal from the race yesterday, joined as “special guests” of the call.
The neo-Confederate/nativist wing is getting frisky.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Nov 1, 2009 5:43:40pm |
re: #31 MandyManners
I don't think Hoffman is the sort of guy who'd be bothered by it. He signed Glenn "Obama hates white culture" Beck's pledge. RSM's racism probably isn;t going to bother him much.
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Gus Sun, Nov 1, 2009 5:43:42pm |
Headline!
Neo-confederate Robert Stacy McCain in conference call with Hoffman campaign.
STOP
Add usual backgrounder on RSM.
STOP
Just an idea.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Nov 1, 2009 5:44:50pm |
re: #32 Charles
The neo-Confederate/nativist wing is getting frisky.
They're getting frisky and if this works it might launch a few careers in "mainstream" Republican politics.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Nov 1, 2009 5:45:22pm |
re: #29 Killgore Trout
Yup, RSM has even been posting pics of him palling around with Hoffman's staff.
A few years ago, there might not have been time for this sort of thing
to sway the election. Things move much faster now, and this might
bite Hoffman.
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Daniel Ballard Sun, Nov 1, 2009 5:46:24pm |
re: #36 Decatur Deb
I hope you are right.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 1, 2009 5:46:52pm |
re: #36 Decatur Deb
A few years ago, there might not have been time for this sort of thing
to sway the election. Things move much faster now, and this might
bite Hoffman.
Oh, I hope so.
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Racer X Sun, Nov 1, 2009 5:47:20pm |
Lizard disguised as autumn leaf
A Satanic leaf-tailed gecko, a type of lizard that can camouflage itself to resemble a shrivelled autumn leaf, has been captured on camera in a stunning image.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Nov 1, 2009 5:47:37pm |
re: #36 Decatur Deb
Things move much faster now, and this might bite Hoffman.
I kinda doubt it. We might get a thread about it here on LGF but the Tea Party crowd is very comfortable with RSM and Odom. The MSM probably won't pick it up so average Joe moderates will never hear about it.
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Sharmuta Sun, Nov 1, 2009 5:48:05pm |
re: #39 Rightwingconspirator
Sarc or serious?
I'm fairly confident Stacy McCain doesn't want to stay a no-name blogger.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Nov 1, 2009 5:49:26pm |
re: #39 Rightwingconspirator
Sarc or serious?
SRSLY. If guys like Odom and RSM are seen as instrumental in getting a Tea Party candidate elected other politicians are going to want their services. It could work out very well for them.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 1, 2009 5:49:33pm |
re: #42 Sharmuta
I'm fairly confident Stacy McCain doesn't want to stay a no-name blogger.
Good. The more his shit gets around, the more people can see it and be repulsed!
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Decatur Deb Sun, Nov 1, 2009 5:50:40pm |
re: #41 Killgore Trout
I kinda doubt it. We might get a thread about it here on LGF but the Tea Party crowd is very comfortable with RSM and Odom. The MSM probably won't pick it up so average Joe moderates will never hear about it.
The Dems have taken "quick reaction" as a mantra. They show some
skill with the intertubes.
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lawhawk Sun, Nov 1, 2009 5:52:27pm |
You know, if Owens and the Democrats are out there watching, they would try to exploit the McCain link, showing just how out on the fringe Hoffman and his supporters are.
In a tight race, something like that would be fair game.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Nov 1, 2009 5:52:50pm |
re: #46 Decatur Deb
The Dems have taken "quick reaction" as a mantra. They show some skill with the intertubes.
Good point. I forgot about those liburals with their functioning websites. They might be able to make some hay out of this.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Nov 1, 2009 5:54:05pm |
re: #48 Killgore Trout
Good point. I forgot about those liburals with their functioning websites. They might be able to make some hay out of this.
Yeah, Linux-driven.
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Randall Gross Sun, Nov 1, 2009 5:54:12pm |
It's almost too late unless there's a bigger bombshell out there. A well done youtube vid in an email campaign focused on NY-23 might do the trick.
/it would be fair considering what Hoffman and crew pulled against Scozzafava
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Randall Gross Sun, Nov 1, 2009 5:57:38pm |
If you are going to buy someone a coffee table art book for Christmas, this is the one:
[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]
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Racer X Sun, Nov 1, 2009 5:58:03pm |
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Decatur Deb Sun, Nov 1, 2009 5:58:48pm |
re: #50 Thanos
(snip)
/it would be fair considering what Hoffman and crew pulled against Scozzafava
I don't really like the "pallin around" shtick, even w/ neo-confederates,
but the Beck pledge would be fair in any fight.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Nov 1, 2009 5:59:03pm |
re: #48 Killgore Trout
Good point. I forgot about those liburals with their functioning websites. They might be able to make some hay out of this.
Somebody ought too. If the "Twue Conserbatibs" refuse to police their own, I guess it's up to the "Commie Libruls" to do it for them.
Too bad one couldn't charge billable hours for such a thing. Seems to be enough work for a full time job lately.
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Sharmuta Sun, Nov 1, 2009 5:59:53pm |
re: #51 Thanos
If you are going to buy someone a coffee table art book for Christmas, this is the one:
[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]
I see Amazon also has the one on the National Parks. That one is beyond spectacular. Beautiful from front to back.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:02:13pm |
re: #53 Decatur Deb
I don't really like the "pallin around" shtick, even w/ neo-confederates,
but the Beck pledge would be fair in any fight.
But, Hoffman IS palling around with McCain.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:04:41pm |
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Racer X Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:05:20pm |
What's That Stuff?
Ever wondered about what's really in hair coloring, Silly Putty, Cheese Wiz, artificial snow, or self-tanners? C&EN presents a collection of articles that gives you a look at the chemistry behind a wide variety of everyday products.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:05:46pm |
re: #56 MandyManners
But, Hoffman IS palling around with McCain.
Very true, but it still smacks of guilt by association. I would hate to be
judged by the company I've kept. That's why the Ayers thing didn't
move me.
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Charles Johnson Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:06:25pm |
Robert Stacy McCain just tweeted:
"Does Charles Johnson hate America?"
That must be it. There's no other explanation.
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brookly red Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:06:51pm |
re: #58 Racer X
What's That Stuff?
Ever wondered about what's really in hair coloring, Silly Putty, Cheese Wiz, artificial snow, or self-tanners? C&EN presents a collection of articles that gives you a look at the chemistry behind a wide variety of everyday products.
wtf? silly putty isn't natural?
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Killgore Trout Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:07:39pm |
re: #60 Charles
Does RSM hate interracial marriage?
/yes
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:09:43pm |
Does RS McCain hate everyone but straight, white people?
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Decatur Deb Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:09:44pm |
re: #60 Charles
Did someone that stupid actually run a newsroom?
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Sharmuta Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:10:39pm |
re: #63 MandyManners
Does RS McCain hate everyone but straight, white people?
He knows some non-white people, to which there are witnesses.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:10:44pm |
re: #64 Decatur Deb
Did someone that stupid actually run a newsroom?
You'd be surprised at how stupid some of the ones were I useta' work with.
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sagehen Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:10:44pm |
re: #55 Sharmuta
I see Amazon also has the one on the National Parks. That one is beyond spectacular. Beautiful from front to back.
Is it connected to the Ken Burns documentary?
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:11:45pm |
re: #60 Charles
Robert Stacy McCain just tweeted:
That must be it. There's no other explanation.
What about #8 of the Glenn Beck's "rules"
8. It is not un-American to disagree with authority or to share my personal opinion...
Freaks
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:12:37pm |
re: #65 Sharmuta
He knows some non-white people, to which there are witnesses.
Is that the origin of the "to which there are witnesses" phrase? I've seen it pop up here a few times, and I am on the outside of this inside joke.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:12:54pm |
Ray Comfort defends his creationist version of Darwin's Origin of Species:
[Link: www.usnews.com...]
Eugenie Scott takes, shall we say, a different view:
[Link: www.usnews.com...]
Apparently this is going to play out as a "debate".
Heh.
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Daniel Ballard Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:13:18pm |
Sorting through RSM tweets must be something like this...
[Link: icanhascheezburger.com...]
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tradewind Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:13:40pm |
Zut Alors... Shh-Iraq was corrupt? Who knew...
[Link: www.breitbart.tv...]
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Decatur Deb Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:14:30pm |
re: #71 negativ
Ray Comfort defends his creationist version of Darwin's Origin of Species:
[Link: www.usnews.com...]Eugenie Scott takes, shall we say, a different view:
[Link: www.usnews.com...]Apparently this is going to play out as a "debate".
Heh.
I want to see him debate the little Romanian kid.
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The Sanity Inspector Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:14:40pm |
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Aye Pod Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:15:06pm |
Good news for Tackhead fans - they have reformed. New tune "Funky Obama" will be released in the new year. Here's an oldie for now - "Mind and Movement Control"
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Taqyia2Me Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:15:25pm |
re: #63 MandyManners
Does RS McCain hate everyone but straight, white people?
My best guess is he even hates straight white people as an over compensation for his inabilty to deal with his self-loathing.
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Sharmuta Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:16:44pm |
re: #70 Slumbering Behemoth
Is that the origin of the "to which there are witnesses" phrase? I've seen it pop up here a few times, and I am on the outside of this inside joke.
It's from here:
Your citation repeats a common falsehood fostered by Signorile's erroneous 2003 column. For the record (a) I never contributed to the site "Reclaiming the South," which is operated by a white separatist named Dennis Wheeler with whom I quite strongly disagreed, and (b) I have neither any personal nor political interest in the marital preferences of others, have many friends of all races, some of whom are of mixed ancestry and some of whom are in mixed marriages. These are facts, to which there are witnesses.
-Stacy
He may have posted this at his blog too, but I would wish his page load on anyone, so I won't link him. Srsly- his page load is damn near as bad as pammycakes.
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ArchangelMichael Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:16:47pm |
re: #60 Charles
Robert Stacy McCain just tweeted:
That must be it. There's no other explanation.
Robert Stacy McCain is a leading candidate for Biggest Douche in the Universe for 2009.
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tradewind Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:17:30pm |
re: #63 MandyManners
I'm re-running an experiment this Thanksgiving at the gathering that I floated a few weeks ago and got zero response... asking every relative ' Who is Robert Stacy McCain?'
I'm betting the percentage of answers even approaching correct is well below one or two percent.
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brookly red Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:18:30pm |
re: #80 tradewind
I'm re-running an experiment this Thanksgiving at the gathering that I floated a few weeks ago and got zero response... asking every relative ' Who is Robert Stacy McCain?'
I'm betting the percentage of answers even approaching correct is well below one or two percent.
dang, how many relatives you got?
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Varek Raith Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:20:06pm |
re: #79 ArchangelMichael
Robert Stacy McCain is a leading candidate for Biggest Douche in the Universe for 2009.
But, John Edward can't compete with the likes of that!11!
/southpark joke :)
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Sheila Broflovski Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:20:23pm |
re: #63 MandyManners
Does RS McCain hate everyone but straight, white people?
Including straight, white people who are Juice.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:21:33pm |
re: #83 Alouette
Including straight, white people who are Juice.
No Juice here. Will "carpetbagger" do?
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Daniel Ballard Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:22:36pm |
re: #83 Alouette
Thats some blog you got going there. Nice.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:22:40pm |
re: #76 Jimmah
More into the Breakestra thing myself, but that was cool.
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ArchangelMichael Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:23:52pm |
re: #82 Varek Raith
But, John Edward can't compete with the likes of that!11!
/southpark joke :)
He was the first Human to receive that award. It used to almost always go to a Marklar or a Gelgamek before John Edward. RSM could win it this year though.
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tradewind Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:24:06pm |
re: #81 brookly red
A bunch. And they like to talk politics, which means dessert is accompanied by a heaping helping of heartburn along with the coffee.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:24:33pm |
re: #78 Sharmuta
Thanks. Now I'm on the inside. :)
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:25:30pm |
re: #80 tradewind
I'm re-running an experiment this Thanksgiving at the gathering that I floated a few weeks ago and got zero response... asking every relative ' Who is Robert Stacy McCain?'
I'm betting the percentage of answers even approaching correct is well below one or two percent.
Gonna' educate them?
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:27:55pm |
re: #83 Alouette
Including straight, white people who are Juice.
I've never read anything by him that is anti-Semitic but, considering his milieu, I'd bet he's not overly found of the Joos.
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tradewind Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:28:15pm |
re: #91 MandyManners
Not to the post-grad level. Since I'm pretty sure that none of them have heard of him yet, I don't want to bore 'em.
Besides, I'm not all that well informed myself. Everything I know about RSM I learned from LGF.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:29:52pm |
re: #94 tradewind
Not to the post-grad level. Since I'm pretty sure that none of them have heard of him yet, I don't want to bore 'em.
Besides, I'm not all that well informed myself. Everything I know about RSM I learned from LGF.
Well, talking about him might curddle the giblet gravy.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:30:14pm |
re: #90 Sharmuta
BTW, I got my POS, hand-me-up 7-speed put back together, so I might not be much of a "Big Guy" for very long.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:30:24pm |
re: #80 tradewind
I'm re-running an experiment this Thanksgiving at the gathering that I floated a few weeks ago and got zero response... asking every relative ' Who is Robert Stacy McCain?'
I'm betting the percentage of answers even approaching correct is well below one or two percent.
The last time I floated an "experiment" at a Thanksgiving gathering, it certainly got something other than zero response.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:30:46pm |
re: #95 MandyManners
Well, talking about him might curddle the giblet gravy.
Leave the mans giblets outta it , will ya!
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sattv4u2 Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:32:31pm |
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Sheila Broflovski Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:32:33pm |
re: #85 Rightwingconspirator
Thats some blog you got going there. Nice.
Don't forget to stop by the Zionist Mall!
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sattv4u2 Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:33:03pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:33:55pm |
re: #99 Decatur Deb
I've had that. Oyster and wild rice stuffing. Not too bad actually, but it loses it's appeal the more it cools down.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:34:07pm |
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webevintage Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:34:24pm |
re: #63 MandyManners
Does RS McCain hate everyone but straight, white people?
RSM loves American he just hates most of the people in it.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:34:58pm |
re: #90 Sharmuta
BTW,, dinging ya up for any I may have missed whilst you've been carrying on the good battle recently!
We don't always agree, but I preciate your stand recently
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tradewind Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:35:57pm |
re: #100 sattv4u2
Oh, gag. Next thing you know they'll try to get all fancy and create a Turfucken.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:36:22pm |
re: #105 webevintage
RSM loves American he just hates most of the people in it.
Well thats fair, no!?!?
Am equal opportunity hater!
/
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sattv4u2 Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:37:00pm |
re: #107 tradewind
Oh, gag. Next thing you know they'll try to get all fancy and create a Turfucken.
Seven Up just shot outta my nose!
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:37:38pm |
Picked by GOP elites without a primary and with a voting record to the left of many Albany Democrats, Ms. Scozzafava faced a revolt by local and national conservatives in favor of businessman Doug Hoffman, who was nominated on the Conservative Party line. The longtime GOP assemblywoman saw herself falling in the polls and yesterday endorsed Democratic lawyer Bill Owens, who could still win the GOP-leaning seat with a plurality.
The voter revolt ought to be a lesson to the GOP's backroom boys, especially in New York state, where the old Al D'Amato insider club has led the party to irrelevance. GOP state chairman Joe Mondello, now thankfully retired, and Beltway bigs misjudged public dismay against the Democratic agenda in Washington. Nominating a candidate who "can win" in the Northeast does not have to mean someone whose voting record is more liberal on taxes and unions than that of most Blue Dog Democrats.
But that lesson will be for naught if conservatives conclude that their victory is reason to challenge any candidate who doesn't agree with them on every issue. The truth is that some conservatives are as bloody-minded and intolerant of all dissent as the hard left is at the Daily Kos. A majority political party requires a far more diverse coalition than the audience for your average right-wing blogger or talk show host. Some of those voices prefer having Democrats in power because it drives up their own ratings.
SNIP
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:38:42pm |
re: #105 webevintage
RSM loves American he just hates most of the people in it.
He loves a figment of his imagination.
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tradewind Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:38:43pm |
re: #109 sattv4u2
I'm sorry...it just kind of flew onto the keyboard by itself..
:)
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:39:01pm |
re: #107 tradewind
Turfucken
I don't even want to know, dude. I don't even want to know.
A well grilled turkey is sacrament IMO.
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Aye Pod Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:39:30pm |
re: #86 Slumbering Behemoth
More into the Breakestra thing myself, but that was cool.
Great stuff! Nothin like a bit of funk. Back in the early 90's, in my bedroom remixer days, I did a mix of the Dallas theme tune featuring Tackhead and Margaret Thatcher. I'll have to go through all my old tapes but I have it somewhere. If I find it I'll stick on youtube.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:39:43pm |
Mudlarks, thief-takers, black-guards, bridle-culls, baggage-men, foot-scamperers and runagates.
I love that list of words.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:41:00pm |
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Decatur Deb Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:41:37pm |
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metrolibertarian Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:41:51pm |
Does the Wall Street Journal parrot any right wing idiocy it hears, or are they just lazy?
Picked by GOP elites without a primary and with a voting record to the left of many Albany Democrats, Ms. Scozzafava faced a revolt by local and national conservatives in favor of businessman Doug Hoffman, who was nominated on the Conservative Party line.
Yeah the facts don't back that up:
Scozzafava’s score puts her in the 58th percentile of her party, which makes her slightly more conservative than the average Republican legislator in Albany, so she’s a conservative in her party.
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Daniel Ballard Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:42:16pm |
re: #117 reine.de.tout
Careful now or somebody will submit Tradewinds version to the book...
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:42:53pm |
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:43:30pm |
re: #120 Rightwingconspirator
Careful now or somebody will submit Tradewinds version to the book...
No to Tofu!
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Decatur Deb Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:44:23pm |
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:45:06pm |
re: #107 tradewind
Oh, gag. Next thing you know they'll try to get all fancy and create a Turfucken.
What's the wish bone look like in one of those things?
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:45:15pm |
re: #124 Decatur Deb
Teapartying at Whole Foods?
Oh, hell no!
No to Whole Foods!
('spensive, and underwhelming)
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:45:48pm |
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:46:10pm |
Machines made of Meat, hale, rokoko, nancy-boys, molly-boys, monads, phizz, mug of flip...
More fun words and phrases.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:46:40pm |
re: #127 reine.de.tout
Oh, hell no!
No to Whole Foods!
('spensive, and underwhelming)
And we have to drive 250 miles to the nearest.
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The Left Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:47:11pm |
re: #105 webevintage
RSM loves American he just hates most of the people in it.
There's a certain strain of wingnut that is absolutely convinced that anyone who doesn't share their opinion hates America, just as any deviation from their wingnut line converts one overnight into a 'radical leftist', etc.
The beginnings of this seem to start in the Bush Admin, where for the fringe right and those who formed a cult of personality around Bush, criticism of Bush was taken to be exactly the same as a criticism of America.
These are the same people who are now convinced that true patriotism and love of America means that you should call for civil war and secession.
The hot air/RSM/wingnut nexis, basically.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:47:34pm |
re: #128 Slumbering Behemoth
DO. NOT. GOOGLE.
I did
GOGGLE looked at me, and with a crinkled brow, said
Did you mean: turducken
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The Left Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:48:10pm |
re: #119 metrolibertarian
Does the Wall Street Journal parrot any right wing idiocy it hears, or are they just lazy?
Can't the answer be yes to both?
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avanti Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:48:10pm |
re: #119 metrolibertarian
Does the Wall Street Journal parrot any right wing idiocy it hears, or are they just lazy?
Technically, she is to the right of many, just not most in Albany. They could have been more accurate by saying "more conservative than most", but that would mess up the spin.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:48:23pm |
Footpads, bedswerving, schloss, raskolnik, libels, Kit-Cat Club...
Continuing with fun words...
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tradewind Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:48:23pm |
re: #113 Slumbering Behemoth
I completely agree. I don't even care for the real thing, which is a turducken, although just after college, my Cajun roommates insisted there Was No Thanksgiving without one, so while we sat on reserve that day , I watched in semi horror as they stuffed a boneless duck inside a boneless chicken and then stuffed that into a turkey.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:49:18pm |
re: #135 Walter L. Newton
Footpads, bedswerving, schloss, raskolnik, libels, Kit-Cat Club...
Continuing with fun words...
Sounds like you're forming a garage band.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:50:17pm |
re: #126 MandyManners
What's the wish bone look like in one of those things?
Haha!
I just noticed - Andy Levy (who I've seen on Fox's "Red Eye") - his twitter avatar is the same as yours. He apparently lost a bet with somebody.
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tradewind Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:50:23pm |
re: #126 MandyManners
I guess you'd have to imagine it. A turducken made of tofu is something I would wish upon no one...
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:50:30pm |
re: #132 sattv4u2
GOGGLE looked at me, and with a crinkled brow, said
Did you mean: turducken
"Because if I show you the results of that... other thing... there is no going back. You cannot un-see what you have seen."
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Aye Pod Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:51:03pm |
re: #117 reine.de.tout
Hi Reine! Recipe as promised :
Haggis Pakora :
The batter –
2 cupfuls of gram flour;
2 cloves crushed fresh garlic,
2 grams of fresh chopped ginger,
2 teaspoons of chilli powder;
salt to taste;
pinch of bicarbonate of soda;
1 tsp cumin powder,
1 tsp whole coriander seeds,
half tsp turmeric powder,
2 sprigs of fresh coriander
Mix with water to create a nice smooth batter. Roll haggis into pakora sized balls (about the size of a golf ball), coat in the batter and deep-fry in hot oil until brown and semi-crispy. Serve with spicy pakora dip.
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Daniel Ballard Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:51:08pm |
re: #136 tradewind
I have thought of making that dish, apart from its enough food for about ten times as many folks as I ever cook for. Not that good huh? De boning bird is good for hazard pay in a kitchen. One slip and its off to get stitches.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:51:33pm |
re: #119 metrolibertarian
puts her in the 58th percentile of her party, which makes her slightly more conservative than the average Republican legislator in Albany, so she’s a conservative in her party.
No ,, it makes her "conservative" compared to ALBANY repubs,(58%tile) which are not as conservative as the "party" (national)
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:51:39pm |
re: #138 reine.de.tout
Haha!
I just noticed - Andy Levy (who I've seen on Fox's "Red Eye") - his twitter avatar is the same as yours. He apparently lost a bet with somebody.
And had to post that avatar as his own?
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tradewind Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:51:56pm |
re: #117 reine.de.tout
(yeah, of course... I just couldn't resist. Tofu... turkey...yech...)
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:52:28pm |
re: #139 tradewind
I guess you'd have to imagine it. A turducken made of tofu is something I would wish upon no one...
I got enough soy food when I was in public schools--the burgers were part meat and part soy.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:52:30pm |
re: #137 Decatur Deb
Sounds like you're forming a garage band.
No... it's a advertisement... Footpads, bedswerving, schloss, raskolnik, libels, Kit-Cat Club, Machines made of Meat, hale, rokoko, nancy-boys, molly-boys, monads, phizz, mug of flip, Mudlarks, thief-takers, black-guards, bridle-culls, baggage-men, foot-scamperers and runagates.
It's a recommendation... read The Baroque Cycle
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:52:33pm |
re: #141 Jimmah
Hi Reine! Recipe as promised :
Haggis Pakora :
The batter –
2 cupfuls of gram flour;
2 cloves crushed fresh garlic,
2 grams of fresh chopped ginger,
2 teaspoons of chilli powder;
salt to taste;
pinch of bicarbonate of soda;
1 tsp cumin powder,
1 tsp whole coriander seeds,
half tsp turmeric powder,
2 sprigs of fresh coriander
Mix with water to create a nice smooth batter. Roll haggis into pakora sized balls (about the size of a golf ball), coat in the batter and deep-fry in hot oil until brown and semi-crispy. Serve with spicy pakora dip.
HAGGIS!
Oh, noes!
You sure, eh?
OK, then.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:52:56pm |
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The Left Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:53:16pm |
re: #143 sattv4u2
puts her in the 58th percentile of her party, which makes her slightly more conservative than the average Republican legislator in Albany, so she’s a conservative in her party.
No ,, it makes her "conservative" compared to ALBANY repubs,(58%tile) which are not as conservative as the "party" (national)
It makes her conservative for NYS voters, is I think the point here.
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Aye Pod Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:54:20pm |
re: #141 Jimmah
Hi Reine! Recipe as promised :
Haggis Pakora :
The batter –
2 cupfuls of gram flour;
2 cloves crushed fresh garlic,
2 grams of fresh chopped ginger,
2 teaspoons of chilli powder;
salt to taste;
pinch of bicarbonate of soda;
1 tsp cumin powder,
1 tsp whole coriander seeds,
half tsp turmeric powder,
2 sprigs of fresh coriander
Mix with water to create a nice smooth batter. Roll haggis into pakora sized balls (about the size of a golf ball), coat in the batter and deep-fry in hot oil until brown and semi-crispy. Serve with spicy pakora dip.
I should add - the haggis! Just buy some. One good sized (1 pound)haggis should be enough for about 20 pakora pieces. I recommend MacSweens if you can get it.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:54:26pm |
re: #150 iceweasel
It makes her conservative for NYS voters, is I think the point here.
Ms. Scozzafava faced a revolt by local and national conservatives
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tradewind Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:55:01pm |
re: #116 Rightwingconspirator
But if I had called it a' tof...that would have been even worse , on so many levels.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:55:54pm |
re: #151 Decatur Deb
Another Steptoe descendant eh?
Er, Shaftoe.
"Penn did not take his gaze away from the window, but squinted as if trying to hold back a mighty volume of flatulence, and shifted his focal point to a thousand miles in the distance. But this was coastal Holland and there was nothing out that window save the Curvature of the World"
"... I am seated near a window that looks out over a canal, and two gondoliers, who nearly collided a minute ago, are screaming murderous threats at each other... The Venetians have even given it a name: 'Canal Rage'."
[Link: www.amazon.com...]
I am almost finished with the third and last book "The System of the World." I have never had so much fun learning about history than this series of books, it's 80 percent fact, mixed with a very clever 20 percent fiction and a 100 percent fun.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:56:06pm |
re: #141 Jimmah
How many does that serve?
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sattv4u2 Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:56:43pm |
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tradewind Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:57:10pm |
re: #153 sattv4u2
For some reason whenever I see Scozzofava, I start picturing a nice Chianti...
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Decatur Deb Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:57:28pm |
re: #155 Walter L. Newton
My son gave me the cycle, but the one-volume edition was unreadable
(physically). Perhaps it would work on the wife's Kindle.
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The Left Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:58:11pm |
re: #153 sattv4u2
Ms. Scozzafava faced a revolt by local and national conservatives
Yes, we all know that. Point is, she was conservative by nys standards, she was the pick at the local level, and the national level over-rode that to see what kind of traction they can get running a tea-party ish candidate: so-con, theo-con agends. It's a trial run for how much traction they can get doing the same elsewhere esp on a national level.
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tradewind Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:58:52pm |
re: #148 reine.de.tout
(I think I'd add a little to that ' pinch of bicarb ' and reserve for after).
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Nov 1, 2009 6:58:52pm |
re: #136 tradewind
I grill the Thanksgiving bird every year, so the only things I stuff it with are quartered apples and onions, and some herbs/garlic.
The first year I suggested this, the family elders were beyond skeptical. "You go ahead and BBQ that turkey over there *snicker*. We'll just be over here with this one in the oven."
Now I am designated bird man. Always.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:00:27pm |
re: #164 Slumbering Behemoth
I'm tofurkey man at my house, baby!
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:00:30pm |
re: #159 Decatur Deb
My son gave me the cycle, but the one-volume edition was unreadable
(physically). Perhaps it would work on the wife's Kindle.
Well, the three books are large, about 1100, 900 and 875 pages total, but it's a wonderful read IMO.
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Daniel Ballard Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:00:31pm |
Grill beats oven every time for major meat dishes. Heck, if you know what you are about you could do your casserole on a Weber with the lid on.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:00:43pm |
re: #164 Slumbering Behemoth
I grill the Thanksgiving bird every year, so the only things I stuff it with are quartered apples and onions, and some herbs/garlic.
The first year I suggested this, the family elders were beyond skeptical. "You go ahead and BBQ that turkey over there *snicker*. We'll just be over here with this one in the oven."
Now I am designated bird man. Always.
On an overseas assignment, our oven blew up, and the Army paperwork
for replacement wasn't worth it. Been doing 'em on a Weber ever since.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:00:44pm |
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Aye Pod Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:00:46pm |
re: #140 Slumbering Behemoth
"Because if I show you the results of that... other thing... there is no going back. You cannot un-see what you have seen."
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:01:03pm |
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Killgore Trout Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:01:14pm |
PULP FICTION SOUND FX MASHUP IS LEGIT
This is a song created using only sound effects from Pulp Fiction, accompanied by video showing where each sound effect came from, all synched up and split screened so you can watch it in real time.
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avanti Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:01:15pm |
re: #143 sattv4u2
puts her in the 58th percentile of her party, which makes her slightly more conservative than the average Republican legislator in Albany, so she’s a conservative in her party.
No ,, it makes her "conservative" compared to ALBANY repubs,(58%tile) which are not as conservative as the "party" (national)
If the GOP sets a standard for candidates to be much more conservative than moderates in the north east, they'll become even more regionally isolated.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:01:20pm |
re: #161 iceweasel
So the WSJ article is accurate. My point
Thanks
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tradewind Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:01:42pm |
re: #164 Slumbering Behemoth
I'm stuck with it too. For some reason, turkey is scary to a lot of people. It's just a big roast chicken.
The best thing is to brine it (and add some herbs), which I just started a few years ago.. makes all the diff.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:02:14pm |
re: #166 Walter L. Newton
Print was just too small. I did read the other, set in WWII/Modern.
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tradewind Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:02:18pm |
re: #167 Rightwingconspirator
Big Green Egg!
best. invention. evah.
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Daniel Ballard Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:02:24pm |
re: #174 avanti
GOP setting standards of conservatism? Hah. Witness what happens to conservatives in California. Think food processor.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:02:32pm |
re: #172 iceweasel
You. Are. So. Sexy. Right. Now.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:03:36pm |
re: #174 avanti
If the GOP sets a standard for candidates to be much more conservative than moderates in the north east, they'll become even more regionally isolated.
And if the people don't even have a say in an open primary process to decide which wing of the party they want for their region. thats okay too?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:04:05pm |
re: #165 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Well git you on a healthy diet one of these days, bro.
/Fat Bastard Omnivore?
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The Left Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:04:49pm |
re: #180 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You. Are. So. Sexy. Right. Now.
Tofurkey is terrific. People should try it, honestly. Vegetarian gravy too. yum.
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The Sanity Inspector Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:05:12pm |
re: #7 Bagua
Just when one thought Halloween was over.
This sort of thing is inventive and everything, but not really for someone like me, whose idea of edgy is wearing an iridescent tie.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:06:15pm |
re: #183 iceweasel
Tofurkey is terrific. People should try it, honestly. Vegetarian gravy too. yum.
I have canines for a reason.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:06:15pm |
K Kiddies
5 a.m comes very early
Gonna hit the hay with visions of a Turfucken in my head!
((hat tip to TradeWind))
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Aye Pod Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:06:25pm |
re: #162 iceweasel
Too many. :(
(afraid of haggis, me)
Dinnae be feart ma wee lassie, they'll no bite ye ;)
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tradewind Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:07:35pm |
re: #186 Rightwingconspirator
Oh, sorry... it's a grill. Charcoal. Made of ceramic stuff, indestructible, and cooks divinely.
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Varek Raith Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:08:38pm |
re: #189 Jimmah
Dinnae be feart ma wee lassie, they'll no bite ye ;)
She can't take much more Captain!
/:)
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:08:52pm |
re: #162 iceweasel
Too many. :(
(afraid of haggis, me)
I think dessert for that one should be Pepcid.
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The Left Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:09:40pm |
re: #190 tradewind
/Those are not the soybeans I knew/
heh. Really, I've served Tofurkey a couple of times at Thanksgivings when I had vegetarians attending-- this was after I'd stopped being vegetarian myself. Even if you're a meateater, it is surprisingly good!
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:09:57pm |
re: #176 tradewind
Success makes for more work, but it doesn't feel like work when you're doing what you love. And I love to grill.
I'm not normally one to toot my own horn, but I can say in all modesty that my Tri-Tip is the da bomb.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:09:58pm |
re: #178 tradewind
Big Green Egg!
best. invention. evah.
I've had one for ten years and I doubt I'll ever buy another grill or smoker.
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avanti Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:11:38pm |
re: #175 sattv4u2
So the WSJ article is accurate. My point
Thanks
Sure, just as accurate as saying the Redskins "won many games", but not mentioning the losing record.By her local standards, she was more conservative than most, and that should count for something in a local race.
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Daniel Ballard Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:12:22pm |
re: #191 tradewind
Gotcha. The ceramic one. Expensive but really looks good. I can just imagine how it holds heat. I'm a Weber man myself.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:13:17pm |
re: #194 iceweasel
heh. Really, I've served Tofurkey a couple of times at Thanksgivings when I had vegetarians attending-- this was after I'd stopped being vegetarian myself. Even if you're a meateater, it is surprisingly good!
Son is a strict vegan, I'm a vegetarian (I WAS FIRST DAMMIT!) The first time I prepared a "Tofurkey", it was for Thanksgiving. We timed our first bite staring at each other intently, we would bite at the same time...
The whole house stopped to watch (50 people, [all eating turkey] just staring at us) hoping one of us would puke.
We did bite down each at the exact same time... BOTH OF US LOVED IT!
(the wild mushroom gravy sets it off)...
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:14:06pm |
re: #161 iceweasel
Yes, we all know that. Point is, she was conservative by nys standards, she was the pick at the local level, and the national level over-rode that to see what kind of traction they can get running a tea-party ish candidate: so-con, theo-con agends. It's a trial run for how much traction they can get doing the same elsewhere esp on a national level.
True, but the fact that she supports Card Check soured me on her. I don't like the people supporting Hoffman, but I like Card Check even less. If I could vote in that election, it would be a tossup between voting for Hoffman and staying home. I don't like either candidate.
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Daniel Ballard Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:16:22pm |
Newsflash as per 60 minutes-
We have Bush43 to thank for big flu vaccine factories that can produce great quantities. First time (maybe) they ever had anything good to say about Bush43. Talking ab0out the anti vaxers too.
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MittDoesNotCompute Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:17:25pm |
re: #178 tradewind
Big Green Egg!
best. invention. evah.
The Big Green Egg has piqued my interest, but I find it hard to justify spending at least 300-400 bucks on what amounts to a (kickass) charcoal grill...I've heard it's very good though.
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The Sanity Inspector Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:17:53pm |
re: #65 Sharmuta
He knows some non-white people, to which there are witnesses.
I'll bet he even lets them use his bathroom.
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Daniel Ballard Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:19:54pm |
re: #202 metrolibertarian
not impressed.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:20:08pm |
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Decatur Deb Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:20:20pm |
re: #204 The Sanity Inspector
I'll bet he even lets them use his bathroom.
It's a genteel and widespread tradition.
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Daniel Ballard Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:20:41pm |
re: #202 metrolibertarian
Thats some pretty offensive references in there...
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MittDoesNotCompute Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:22:07pm |
re: #202 metrolibertarian
How the idea that "Jesus is the son of God" really came about.
Not very funny, that.
/or original...
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Daniel Ballard Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:23:03pm |
re: #209 talon_262
Do not go into the site. It gets much worse.
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The Left Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:23:45pm |
oh no-- dave Weigel just tweeted this:
The bottom line though is that Hoffman led by double digits during every segment of the poll, an indication that he may have been headed for a definitive victory regardless of Scozzafava's actions over the course of the weekend.
I don't know these public policy polling people. (and why do they have a free blogspot blog, anyway?) Avanti? You're poll guy--
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ArchangelMichael Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:24:15pm |
re: #202 metrolibertarian
Remember this isn't DU.
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avanti Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:24:36pm |
re: #202 metrolibertarian
How the idea that "Jesus is the son of God" really came about.
I'm agnostic, and I find that offensive, just saying.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:25:13pm |
re: #202 metrolibertarian
um - did you think that was funny, or clever, or . . . what exactly?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:25:18pm |
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Mich-again Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:26:45pm |
re: #200 Dark_Falcon
Any Republican that supports card check union elections can go piss up a rope in my humble opinion. For crying out loud, that would put her to the left of George McGovern.
Former Democratic Senator and presidential candidate George McGovern continues to speak out against the so-called Employee Free Choice Act, which he has described as an effort to undermine workplace democracy, because it would replace secret ballot elections with a process known as “card check,” whereby union organizers ask employees to sign union cards out in the open.
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Sheila Broflovski Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:27:15pm |
re: #115 Walter L. Newton
Mudlarks, thief-takers, black-guards, bridle-culls, baggage-men, foot-scamperers and runagates.
I love that list of words.
Mr. Lamarr, you use yer tongue prettier'en a ten dollar whore.
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Daniel Ballard Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:27:24pm |
re: #214 reine.de.tout
I made the mistake of looking at the main site. Yeow!!! Anti religious and racist too. Not his linked image but the site. wow.
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tradewind Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:28:11pm |
re: #202 metrolibertarian
Don't know what's in that link but not gonna click it... the night's been really lovely so far.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:28:31pm |
re: #218 Rightwingconspirator
I made the mistake of looking at the main site. Yeow!!! Anti religious and racist too. Not his linked image but the site. wow.
He hates us, my precious...
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MittDoesNotCompute Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:29:48pm |
re: #217 Alouette
Mr. Lamarr, you use yer tongue prettier'en a ten dollar whore.
[Bart, disguised as a Klansman, describes his qualifications as a villain]
Bart: Stampeding cattle.
Hedley Lamarr: That's not much of a crime.
Bart: Through the Vatican?
Hedley Lamarr: [smiling] Kinkyyy. Sign here.
;-P
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tradewind Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:29:49pm |
re: #206 MandyManners
Don't you just love that phrase as the epitome of condescension?
It's way better than ' some of my best friends'.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:29:52pm |
re: #218 Rightwingconspirator
I made the mistake of looking at the main site. Yeow!!! Anti religious and racist too. Not his linked image but the site. wow.
I couldn't figure out how to get there; glad I didn't.
What was that all about, you suppose?
Why post something like that?
(I know you can't answer that; not expecting you to - just - take a nice thread and throw in some hateful stuff . . . weird).
| 225 |
Aye Pod Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:30:14pm |
| 226 |
reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:30:16pm |
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avanti Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:30:16pm |
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Killgore Trout Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:30:31pm |
re: #218 Rightwingconspirator
The blasphemy is one thing but the stuff on the main page is inexcusable.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:30:36pm |
re: #224 reine.de.tout
HATEFUL! THAT'S THE WORD I WAS LOOKING FOR...
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Daniel Ballard Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:31:54pm |
re: #229 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Right On FBV.
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The Sanity Inspector Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:32:36pm |
re: #114 Jimmah
Great stuff! Nothin like a bit of funk. Back in the early 90's, in my bedroom remixer days, I did a mix of the Dallas theme tune featuring Tackhead and Margaret Thatcher. I'll have to go through all my old tapes but I have it somewhere. If I find it I'll stick on youtube.
Funk? No knock against anyone's preferences, but everyone should know that funk didn't used to be a bunch of computers overdubbing each other with snippets of these guys:
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:32:46pm |
My spider senses are tingling... bunch o' deletes a'comin'.
What a fuck-wad.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:32:48pm |
re: #216 Mich-again
Any Republican that supports card check union elections can go piss up a rope in my humble opinion. For crying out loud, that would put her to the left of George McGovern.
Quite Concur. Though, it should be noted that George McGovern has always favored the secret ballot for unionization. He's held the same position all his life and did not change it when the political winds shifted. I have never agreed with George McGovern on most issues, but he is a man of principal and integrity and that makes him a better man than most politicians.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:34:12pm |
Man, Winter pisses me off. I love the cooler weather and all, but this sunset at 6pm thing is just lame. My body clock is all whacked.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:34:45pm |
re: #231 The Sanity Inspector
One of my bandmates has a brother who has been playing with P-Funk for something like 20 years. The last time I saw them in Baltimore he got us backstage passes. Great show.
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Mich-again Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:35:02pm |
re: #233 Dark_Falcon
I have never agreed with George McGovern on most issues, but he is a man of principal and integrity and that makes him a better man than most politicians.
Agreed.
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Varek Raith Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:35:33pm |
re: #234 Slumbering Behemoth
Man, Winter pisses me off. I love the cooler weather and all, but this sunset at 6pm thing is just lame. My body clock is all whacked.
Agreed. This messes me up twice a year.
/grumbling.
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Sheila Broflovski Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:35:49pm |
re: #222 talon_262
[Bart, disguised as a Klansman, describes his qualifications as a villain]
Bart: Stampeding cattle.
Hedley Lamarr: That's not much of a crime.
Bart: Through the Vatican?
Hedley Lamarr: [smiling] Kinkyyy. Sign here.;-P
Greatest. Movie. Ever.
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MittDoesNotCompute Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:35:56pm |
re: #232 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
My spider senses are tingling... bunch o' deletes a'comin'.
What a fuck-wad.
I didn't look at the main site when I quoted the offending post...I just thought the posted pic was lame and in bad taste, but there was apparently much worse stuff there.
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Daniel Ballard Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:36:00pm |
re: #224 reine.de.tout
and... its a goner! What I did was chop off the end of the address to see what these guys were really into satire or what, It was Or What.
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Mich-again Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:36:59pm |
re: #234 Slumbering Behemoth
My body clock is all whacked.
Chocolate covered coffee beans. mmm. Thats my secret.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:37:49pm |
re: #237 Varek Raith
Heh. And when I say "cooler weather", I mean that it was just a little under 80 degrees here today. In November.
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tradewind Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:38:29pm |
re: #234 Slumbering Behemoth
I hate it too. I take that phrase ' rage, rage against the dying of the light' personally... it doesn't have to mean Death.
It's the torture of a shortened day. I start to cranky up right about now and I won't be really happy until daylight savings time kicks in again except for the few times when I can get somewhere really sunny and hot.
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:38:29pm |
re: #234 Slumbering Behemoth
Man, Winter pisses me off. I love the cooler weather and all, but this sunset at 6pm thing is just lame. My body clock is all whacked.
What happened to autumn (or spring if you're down under)?
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:39:03pm |
re: #241 Mich-again
Chocolate covered coffee beans. mmm. Thats my secret.
What do you do to get rid of the calories.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:39:34pm |
Okay.. just watched a DVR'd "Big Bang Theory". At the end of each "Chuck Lorre Production" (he's also the Two and a Half Men guy) there is a one second long screen of his "deep thought"? (for lack of a better word)...
I believe that inherent within the God-given right to the pursuit of happiness, is the equally God-given right to the pursuit of unhappiness. That is why I support gay marriage.
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Daniel Ballard Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:40:02pm |
re: #243 tradewind
I was not liking leaving for work at a decent hour... in the dark. Harder to wake up and get sharp.
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Van Helsing Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:40:04pm |
re: #233 Dark_Falcon
I was going to re-read '1984' but after all the crap about "card check" aka "the employee free choice act", the million and one euphemisims in the house health care bill and the new set of 'hate crimes' legislation tacked onto a funding bill I really don't find the idea of 'newspeak' all that amusing.
Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia...
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Aye Pod Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:40:40pm |
re: #231 The Sanity Inspector
Funk? No knock against anyone's preferences, but everyone should know that funk didn't used to be a bunch of computers overdubbing each other with snippets of these guys:
Computers don't overdub each other. Humans do that ;-)
But there are people who use computers in a very lazy way of course. But then there are others who use them in incredibly inventive ways, creating sounds and effects that wouldn't have been possible otherwise, with skill and talent.
Tackhead grew out of the Sugarhill Gang btw. They jammed with such luminaries as Bernie Worrel (of Parliament fame) and Jesse Rae.
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Mr. Crankypants Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:41:29pm |
re: #241 Mich-again
I used to eat those, but after my first day of vibrating my way through work, I had to give them up. They're even more potent than the Mt. Dew/Red Bull cocktail I used to start my day with.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:41:42pm |
re: #244 Spare O'Lake
What happened to autumn (or spring if you're down under)?
Ha ha ha! 'Round my parts, you'll miss spring and fall if you blink.
It's either "fucking HOT!" or "cold and foggy". I think we get about two to three weeks of spring and fall every year, combined.
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The Left Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:42:04pm |
re: #239 talon_262
I didn't look at the main site when I quoted the offending post...I just thought the posted pic was lame and in bad taste, but there was apparently much worse stuff there.
I'm an atheist and I just didn't find it witty or even mildly amusing. Lame.
And there is a horrible and racist post right on the main site, three posts down. I didn't look any further, but there was no need too at that point for sure.
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tradewind Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:42:04pm |
re: #245 Dark_Falcon
It's a wash... the caffeine speeds up your metabolism///
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Mich-again Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:42:46pm |
re: #243 tradewind
I won't be really happy until daylight savings time kicks in again except for the few times when I can get somewhere really sunny and hot.
What is this "sun" thing you mentioned?
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MittDoesNotCompute Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:43:04pm |
re: #238 Alouette
Greatest. Movie. Ever.
Jim: Well, it got so that every piss-ant prairie punk who thought he could shoot a gun would ride into town to try out the Waco Kid. I must have killed more men than Cecil B. DeMille. It got pretty gritty. I started to hear the word "draw" in my sleep. Then one day, I was just walking down the street when I heard a voice behind me say, "Reach for it, mister!" I spun around... and there I was, face-to-face with a six-year old kid. Well, I just threw my guns down and walked away. Little bastard shot me in the ass. So I limped to the nearest saloon, crawled inside a whiskey bottle, and I've been there ever since.
Mel Brooks, Cleavon Little, Gene Wilder, Madeline Kahn, Harvey Korman, and Slim Pickens (along with Richard Pryor's screenwriting)...all in their prime and on their game in Blazing Saddles.
/and it's a movie that'd never be made in this day and age...but, damn, it's a comedy classic!
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Pawn of the Oppressor Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:43:45pm |
re: #246 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Okay.. just watched a DVR'd "Big Bang Theory". At the end of each "Chuck Lorre Production" (he's also the Two and a Half Men guy) there is a one second long screen of his "deep thought"? (for lack of a better word)...
It's best if you just skip reading those. One of them (not sure which episode, obviously something pre-Nov '08) is an absolutely ridiculous, gushing love letter to our not-yet-then-elected current CINC.
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The Sanity Inspector Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:43:53pm |
re: #176 tradewind
I'm stuck with it too. For some reason, turkey is scary to a lot of people. It's just a big roast chicken.
The best thing is to brine it (and add some herbs), which I just started a few years ago.. makes all the diff.
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Mich-again Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:44:17pm |
re: #245 Dark_Falcon
What do you do to get rid of the calories.
It only takes a few! If you ate a handful of them you might not sleep for a couple days.
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Varek Raith Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:44:26pm |
re: #254 Mich-again
What is this "sun" thing you mentioned?
Oh shit! Did I just accidentally launch my trilithium torpedo?!
/nerd joke :P
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The Sanity Inspector Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:45:14pm |
re: #206 MandyManners
You have a good memory.
I like to take note of lame-ass excuses, in case I ever need them for personal use.
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Daniel Ballard Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:45:56pm |
re: #259 Mich-again
At least you have the energy to nervously toothpick all the coffee bean bits from between your teeth!
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Pawn of the Oppressor Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:45:58pm |
re: #246 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Re-reading what you posted - yeah, that is pretty funny. :) But like I said, I quit reading them after the Obama one. I don't care if it had been a love letter to Sarah Palin or John McCain, leave that stuff out of my funny TV shows.
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The Sanity Inspector Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:46:30pm |
re: #235 Mad Al-Jaffee
One of my bandmates has a brother who has been playing with P-Funk for something like 20 years. The last time I saw them in Baltimore he got us backstage passes. Great show.
Sounds like a real treat!
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:46:49pm |
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Van Helsing Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:46:50pm |
re: #260 Varek Raith
Oh shit! Did I just accidentally launch my trilithium torpedo?!
/nerd joke :P
Should it worry me that I know what you are referring to?
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Aye Pod Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:47:18pm |
re: #234 Slumbering Behemoth
Man, Winter pisses me off. I love the cooler weather and all, but this sunset at 6pm thing is just lame. My body clock is all whacked.
My body clock gave up the ghost some time ago. Sunset here is 4:30 just now btw.
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Van Helsing Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:47:20pm |
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tradewind Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:47:37pm |
re: #254 Mich-again
(You have to get on de plane and fly South to it. Way South).
This has been a miserable weather year... we usually have a very warm spring and a lovely clear and dry fall. This year... chilly as crap all spring... fifties, sixties... it really screwed up the tomatoes, and wet... soaking... all this fall. Didn't even get one decent hundred degree couple of days in a row this summer.
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Mr. Crankypants Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:47:49pm |
re: #255 talon_262
Damned straight. Although I think Brooks went down hill after the two classics Young Frankenstein and Blazing Saddles. Although History of the World had it's moments. "it's good to be da king!"
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Daniel Ballard Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:48:46pm |
re: #270 PT Barnum
"Count DeMonay" Count the money.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:49:29pm |
re: #270 PT Barnum
Young Frankenstein was written by Gene Wilder, who asked Mel to direct. Just sayin'.
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The Sanity Inspector Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:50:32pm |
re: #263 Pawn of the Oppressor
Re-reading what you posted - yeah, that is pretty funny. :) But like I said, I quit reading them after the Obama one. I don't care if it had been a love letter to Sarah Palin or John McCain, leave that stuff out of my funny TV shows.
Brings to mind Letterman declining to crack wise about Obama because he's "too competent".
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MittDoesNotCompute Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:50:36pm |
re: #270 PT Barnum
Damned straight. Although I think Brooks went down hill after the two classics Young Frankenstein and Blazing Saddles. Although History of the World had it's moments. "it's good to be da king!"
Brooks had some later flashes of genius...for what it's worth, I love Spaceballs (with a great cast and some good gags) and Robin Hood: Men in Tights had it's moments too.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:50:50pm |
re: #264 The Sanity Inspector
Sounds like a real treat!
One of the best shows I've ever been to. I stood inches from Clinton before he walked onto the stage.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:50:52pm |
re: #267 Jimmah
My body clock gave up the ghost some time ago. Sunset here is 4:30 just now btw.
My body clock is set much more by LGF and work than by the sun. I stay up when there's a good discussion going and I get up based on the time I have to get to work.
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Mich-again Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:52:14pm |
re: #269 tradewind
We had an unusually cool Summer here. We went weeks on end without turning on the AC and that was nice saving the cash on the electric bill. But I never thought I would say I missed the occasional 100 degree day, heck I'm not sure we even hit 90 this year.
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Mr. Crankypants Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:52:39pm |
re: #274 Slumbering Behemoth
I didn't know that...Young Frankenstein is an absolute classic too.
Spaceballs was good, but I think Blazing Saddles will always be Brooks' masterpiece.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:52:39pm |
That just me... or did Utley just knock the shit out of that?
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The Sanity Inspector Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:53:11pm |
re: #274 Slumbering Behemoth
Young Frankenstein was written by Gene Wilder, who asked Mel to direct. Just sayin'.
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Mich-again Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:53:23pm |
re: #282 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
That just me... or did Utley just knock the shit out of that?
Did it land yet?
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tradewind Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:54:08pm |
re: #12 MandyManners
(Just saw this up at the top of the thread)... I loved that movie, and there's a new tv series that is kind of a takeoff on it, called White Collar, on USA... the same kind of thing, only the guy is already caught, and now he's working with the Fed who busted him.
(It doesn't suck that he's gorgeous, either).
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Sheila Broflovski Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:54:47pm |
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MittDoesNotCompute Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:55:38pm |
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The Sanity Inspector Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:55:53pm |
re: #278 Mad Al-Jaffee
One of the best shows I've ever been to. I stood inches from Clinton before he walked onto the stage.
An old roommate of mine used to work at a grocery store in Atlanta, when George Clinton came into his line. My friend asked if he was indeed George Clinton. "Well," he chuckled, "I'm spending his money!"
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:56:48pm |
re: #274 Slumbering Behemoth
Young Frankenstein was written by Gene Wilder, who asked Mel to direct. Just sayin'.
IMDB sez
Writing credits
Mel Brooks (screenplay) &
Norman Steinberg (screenplay) &
Andrew Bergman (screenplay) &
Richard Pryor (screenplay) &
Alan Uger
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Sheila Broflovski Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:56:54pm |
Monty Python's Life of Brian: Second Greatest Comedy Ever.
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MittDoesNotCompute Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:57:34pm |
re: #281 PT Barnum
I didn't know that...Young Frankenstein is an absolute classic too.
Spaceballs was good, but I think Blazing Saddles will always be Brooks' masterpiece.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:57:55pm |
re: #284 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Really. Though it seems I have screwed up one detail:
After Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex* (*But Were Afraid to Ask), Wilder began working on a script he called Young Frankenstein. After he wrote a two-page scenario, he called Mel Brooks, who told him that it seemed like a "cute" idea but showed little interest.[22] A couple of months later, Wilder received a call from his then-agent, Mike Medavoy, who asked if he had anything where he could include Peter Boyle and Marty Feldman, his two new clients. Having just seen Feldman on television, Wilder was inspired to write a scene that takes place at Transylvania Station, where Igor and Frederick meet for the first time. The scene was later included in the film almost verbatim. Medavoy liked the idea and called Brooks, asking him to direct. Brooks was not convinced, but having spent four years working on two box office failures, he decided to accept.
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The Left Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:58:09pm |
re: #291 Alouette
Monty Python's Life of Brian: Second Greatest Comedy Ever.
Have to throw in a vote for the Holy grail here too, btw...
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Pepper Fox Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:58:10pm |
re: #291 Alouette
If nothing else than it offended everyone and nobody learned the lesson from it lol, I love that film though.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:58:17pm |
Bed time here, or an hour before bed time, or somethin...
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:59:16pm |
re: #285 Mich-again
Did it land yet?
"Wouldn't've made it out of some parks. Yosomite? Yellowstone?"
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Varek Raith Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:59:19pm |
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MittDoesNotCompute Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:59:41pm |
re: #290 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
IMDB sez
Writing credits
Mel Brooks (screenplay) &
Norman Steinberg (screenplay) &
Andrew Bergman (screenplay) &
Richard Pryor (screenplay) &
Alan Uger
That would be for Blazing Saddles...the directing/writing credits for Young Frankenstein are:
Directed by Mel Brooks
Written by Gene Wilder & Mel Brooks
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tradewind Sun, Nov 1, 2009 7:59:53pm |
re: #276 The Sanity Inspector
Okay, I'm convinced now. There's Gore Vidal on the record as saying that Obama is too smart for America, and now Letterman says he's too competent for comedy.
Waiting on the Vatican. How long does that canonization thing take?///
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:00:23pm |
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The Sanity Inspector Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:01:10pm |
re: #293 Slumbering Behemoth
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:01:30pm |
re: #293 Slumbering Behemoth
FANTASTIC! (I was thinking Blazing Saddles, not Young Frankentstein)
Cool tidbit.
I bow before you, you sleeping big fella.
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Mr. Crankypants Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:01:48pm |
re: #294 iceweasel
You don't need me!
Crowd: We don't need you!
You're all individuals!
Crowd: We're all individuals!
One Guy: I'm not
Best line ever
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:02:13pm |
re: #302 talon_262
Brain was confused... Bowed before the big monster already.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:03:30pm |
re: #306 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Too late. I hate you now.
Aw, I can't stay angry at you, big guy. {FBV}
/
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:03:54pm |
re: #293 Slumbering Behemoth
SEE? I keep telling folks you can get lit on "Coors Light"!
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Sheila Broflovski Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:04:38pm |
re: #295 Pepper Fox
If nothing else than it offended everyone and nobody learned the lesson from it lol, I love that film though.
There were some offensive parts in "Life of Brian" but they made me think, "Mel Brooks would have found a way to make this so funny that nobody would even think about how offensive it was."
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Pepper Fox Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:04:57pm |
Since we're on the topic I cracked open a bottle of Holy Grail Ale :3 good stuff
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The Sanity Inspector Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:05:46pm |
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Pepper Fox Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:06:01pm |
re: #311 Alouette
Eh that's just how British humor usually goes lol it's just different.
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Mich-again Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:06:02pm |
I think Caddyshack, Airplane, Life of Brian, Harlem Nights and Easy Money were funnier than Blazing Saddles.
Caddyshack stands alone. Thats the Gold Standard.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:06:04pm |
Freetoken posted a great rebuttle to Freakanomics in the science links.
[Link: www.realclimate.org...]
The good professor, now being painted as a hero of the denier crowd, a professor of economics made some very terrible, and silly mathematical errors in his book - as in the kind that basic arithmetic would show false.
I am once again convinced that if an economist says something in relation to science, I should default assume (s)he is wrong.
I was trying to explain that seeding SO2 would cause acid rain recently. Seeding SO2 is another thing devout followers of this book think is just too clever.
There wold have been a simple chemistry thought there to apply as well. Having not read the book though, I was not aware of the tragic failures in basic arithmetic that are even worse.
It reminds me of an exercise we gave some students in a science for the very uninterested course. It was simply, convert the speed of light into miles per hour. The idea was o get them to see it in units they knew and get the idea it is really quite fast.
One kid reported it was 27 mph.
I asked him if that made any sense at all before he handed it in.
He said that's what he got on the calculator.
I asked him if he noticed blue shifts when riding a bike on campus.
I asked him if he ever noticed anything funny when he drove a car on the freeway.
Again, the way that people do not get the idea that science always has to relate to the real world is astonishing and disappointing.
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Mr. Crankypants Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:06:28pm |
re: #312 Pepper Fox
Is it good? I saw that at the store but declined to buy as I thought it was overpriced.
We have a store by where I used to work that carried 40 some different varieties of beer ala carte...was nice for poker night, as I'd pick up a couple of 12 packs and we'd all sample.
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The Left Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:06:38pm |
re: #307 PT Barnum
You don't need me!
Crowd: We don't need you!
You're all individuals!
Crowd: We're all individuals!
One Guy: I'm notBest line ever
Heh. I just laughed out loud remembering that. Love it!
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Mr. Crankypants Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:07:29pm |
re: #316 Mich-again
Sorry...I just didnt' think Caddyshack was that funny...but then again, I've never liked Bill Murray all that much.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:07:31pm |
re: #291 Alouette
Cheesemakers scene made me think... 5000 people trying to listen to one guy?
Wonder what they thought he said.
Had never, ever occurred to me before...
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The Left Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:07:42pm |
re: #316 Mich-again
I think Caddyshack, Airplane, Life of Brian, Harlem Nights and Easy Money were funnier than Blazing Saddles.
Caddyshack stands alone. Thats the Gold Standard.
I'm updinging you just because I agree that Caddyshack is special. :)
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:08:27pm |
re: #316 Mich-again
How am I supposed to disagree with opinion.
Opinion is always right. Even when it is completely wrong.
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Pepper Fox Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:08:40pm |
re: #318 PT Barnum
It is overpriced, but it's worth being seen drinking lol I just happened to have some left in my fridge. It's more of a novelty thing. Now if you want some good everyday beers my favs are Shiner Bock (I'm Texan, it flows like water here) Tilburg's Dutch Brown Ale, and De Koninck. Good luck finding those last two!
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Mr. Crankypants Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:08:49pm |
re: #322 iceweasel
Now Airplane stands in a place by itself...first of the so many gags so fast that you had to watch it 3 times just to get them all..
Guess I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue..
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:09:13pm |
re: #320 PT Barnum
Then, you should see "Zombieland".
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Varek Raith Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:09:14pm |
re: #317 LudwigVanQuixote
One kid reported it was 27 mph.
Damn! I go > warp speed down I-95?!
/freakin' awesome!
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Daniel Ballard Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:10:04pm |
re: #317 LudwigVanQuixote
Science for the very uninterested class? Imagine hiring a post grad.
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The Left Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:10:28pm |
re: #325 PT Barnum
Now Airplane stands in a place by itself...first of the so many gags so fast that you had to watch it 3 times just to get them all..
Guess I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue..
What about Stripes?
"I'm okay...I just shouldn't have drunk all that cough syrup earlier..."
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:10:29pm |
re: #286 tradewind
(Just saw this up at the top of the thread)... I loved that movie, and there's a new tv series that is kind of a takeoff on it, called White Collar, on USA... the same kind of thing, only the guy is already caught, and now he's working with the Fed who busted him.
(It doesn't suck that he's gorgeous, either).
Vanity Fair has a slick, two-page ad for it this month. He's more than gorgeous.
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Mr. Crankypants Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:10:55pm |
re: #324 Pepper Fox
Normally I don't stoop to drinking the mass produced American stuff, but I've been rather fond of Amber Bock and some of the other Budweiser specialty beers.
Best beer I had recently was Chimay trappist ale...
oh man that was good...
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Mich-again Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:11:13pm |
re: #317 LudwigVanQuixote
Again, the way that people do not get the idea that science always has to relate to the real world is astonishing and disappointing.
I know what you mean. There is checking the math and there is the "sniff test" that doesn't require a calculator. Like when you figure out the static load on a bridge and its a negative number. Forget partial credit for just getting the sign incorrect.. How could you write down that the net load was in an upward direction? Same for writing down the speed of light is 27 mph. Hello!
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The Sanity Inspector Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:12:07pm |
Whatever kind of comedy movie list this thread is morphing into, Time Bandits deserves an honorable mention.
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Pepper Fox Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:12:33pm |
re: #331 PT Barnum
Yes Chimay is the best. Red is my favorite. I just don't like spending that much on beer. Another good beer is Dogfish Head IPU 60min if you like bitter.
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Mr. Crankypants Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:12:33pm |
re: #329 iceweasel
Stripes was okay, but still Murray just ruined it for me.
But then I never thought Jim Carey or Adam Sandler were all that funny either.
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Racer X Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:13:11pm |
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Mr. Crankypants Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:13:57pm |
re: #335 Pepper Fox
My brother in law buys my father in law (who's 93) 12 and 24 packs of really good beer, and I generally get to share since my father in law doesn't drink it fast enough. Ohterwise I couldn't afford the $15 a bottle for Chimay either.
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Mr. Crankypants Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:14:47pm |
re: #334 The Sanity Inspector
Yeah...though Brazil has it's moments. Too bad it's such a damn bummer as well.
The scene with the sliding desk is classic.
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Varek Raith Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:15:11pm |
re: #333 Mich-again
I know what you mean. There is checking the math and there is the "sniff test" that doesn't require a calculator. Like when you figure out the static load on a bridge and its a negative number. Forget partial credit for just getting the sign incorrect.. How could you write down that the net load was in an upward direction? Same for writing down the speed of light is 27 mph. Hello!
This pic comes to mind when I read your example.
/sad, but true.
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albusteve Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:15:38pm |
re: #334 The Sanity Inspector
Whatever kind of comedy movie list this thread is morphing into, Time Bandits deserves an honorable mention.
[Video]
so would Trains, Planes and Automobiles...imo
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Daniel Ballard Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:15:45pm |
re: #335 Pepper Fox
For me its Sierra Nevada Pale Ale, or the recent extra hearty Anniversary Ale.
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Pepper Fox Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:17:09pm |
re: #339 PT Barnum
Shiner puts out good stuff, recently one called smokehaus, which is mesquite smoke flavored. I usually use it for cooking.
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Mr. Crankypants Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:17:32pm |
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Sheila Broflovski Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:18:14pm |
While we're on the subject of old movies, I have an old, analog CRT TV, which is hooked up to Comcast Cable. Ever since the changeover from analog to digital, Comcast told me everything would be cool, but whenever I want to watch TV or watch a DVD (rented from Netflix or from my own collection) I get a big blacked out area in the middle of the screen.
I did a Google search to see if anyone else is experiencing this problem, couldn't find anything. If I switch to a channel, it broadcasts fine for about 10 seconds, then the black screen comes up. This happens whether I am watching a TV channel or a movie.
Anyone else have this happen? I think I'm going to call Comcast in the morning. They will probably try to talk me into buying a big screen HDTV which I can't afford.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:18:15pm |
re: #310 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
SEE? I keep telling folks you can get lit on "Coors Light"!
Go with this stuff. It tastes like crap, but it will get you lit faster, and you will consume fewer calories while doing so.
I'm not a big fan of Mel's work, though I do like some of his stuff. Young Frankenstein stands out from his other stuff precisely because it was conceived and written (mostly) by someone else. It's like prozac for me, the movie never fails to cheer me up when I am feeling bummed.
It also doesn't hurt that Madeline Kahn was totally *growl* worthy back in the day. She gave a wee, young Behemoth more than a few things to fantasize about.
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Mr. Crankypants Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:19:19pm |
re: #345 Pepper Fox
ooh..that sounds interesting..might go good in my chili...
My chili isn't for purists, but it gets good ratings otherwise...
I use stew meat rather than hamburger and throw in both beans and niblet corn at the tail end...
that and cornbread and it's good stuff..
The beer just adds a bit of body
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Daniel Ballard Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:19:20pm |
re: #317 LudwigVanQuixote
Hey did you happen to see the links I found about a day late after our Gingrich-FISA chat? I just hate it when I find stuff late.
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ArchangelMichael Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:19:50pm |
re: #338 Racer X
The guy that says "We aint found shit!" was also Tuvok in Star Trek Voyager.
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Daniel Ballard Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:20:13pm |
re: #349 PT Barnum
Up ding for real meat in there.
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Mr. Crankypants Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:20:20pm |
re: #348 Slumbering Behemoth
I thought she was funnier in Blazing Saddles as Lilly Von Shtup..
I'm tiahd...tiahd of being admiahd...
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:20:43pm |
re: #327 Varek Raith
re: #328 Rightwingconspirator
The worst and most painful class I ever taught was physics for elementary ed majors.
To be fair, there were a couple of really good kids there that would make excellent teachers and who were really stellar people.
The rest were dumb as bricks.
Before you jump on me for being harsh, please let me explain just how stupid, stupid can be, and then lament, gnash your teeth and wail, that most of those kids are going to go on to teach.
There was no mathematical requirement for the class. The goal was to tell them stories enough that they didn't completely lie to their kiddies when they were teachers themselves.
However, there was homework. In one, they had to find the area of a 3 by 5 rectangle.
They whined piteously that there was not supposed to be any math in the class. They said they would not have to know this, because they weren't going to be scientists, they were going to be teachers. I explained to them that they would have to teach this in 3rd grade to the average kids and first grade to the bright ones.
So I explained multiplication patiently. I drew five rows of three dots in columns. I explained that 5X3 was literally taking the number 3 five times and adding it all up.
I had them count the dots.
I expanded the idea into squares and motivated the notion of area.
They were looking at me like lobsters were coming out of my ears.
I asked what was wrong.
One of the brave ones asked "Shouldn't it be 3X5 instead of 5X3?"
Indeed the problem listed the 3 first.
I asked if they thought it would make a difference. Almost all raised their little hands. The fact that it was on the board in geometric form for why it would not escaped them.
So I asked well what is 3X5. They took out their calculators and got 15. I asked so what is 5X3? Again with the calculators, never mind that the answer was there, and why it was the answer was on the board. Of course it was also 15.
One asked, "will that always happen?"
After you get done lamenting that these are future teachers, we can lament that these people vote too.
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Mich-again Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:20:57pm |
re: #331 PT Barnum
Normally I don't stoop to drinking the mass produced American stuff
Normally I do. I appreciate a finely crafted macro-brew.
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:21:16pm |
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Pepper Fox Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:22:00pm |
re: #349 PT Barnum
Yes I use it for my chili, or I'll use a general beer for cooking my German sausage. For chili I would suggest no beans and trying sliced mushrooms. Ground chuck for meat.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:22:01pm |
re: #348 Slumbering Behemoth
I love Madeline.
I blame Gene Wilder for Madeline and Gilda.
Totally not fair... but I blame him...
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Mr. Crankypants Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:22:21pm |
re: #348 Slumbering Behemoth
Although she doesn't hold a candle to Terri Garr...I would have gone for a roll in the hay with her anytime...
Roll roll, roll in ze hay...
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The Left Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:23:24pm |
re: #353 PT Barnum
I thought she was funnier in Blazing Saddles as Lilly Von Shtup..
I'm tiahd...tiahd of being admiahd...
yes!
I'm tired
Sick and tired of love
I've had my fill of love
From below and above
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:23:32pm |
re: #354 LudwigVanQuixote
Shudders at the thought!
{{LVQ}}
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The Sanity Inspector Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:23:39pm |
Remember The Stuntman?
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Varek Raith Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:23:48pm |
re: #354 LudwigVanQuixote
Argh! It burnsss! Those people would give me a migraine in no time.
Still burns.
They teach?!
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Racer X Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:24:03pm |
re: #354 LudwigVanQuixote
So I asked well what is 3X5. They took out their calculators and got 15. I asked so what is 5X3? Again with the calculators, never mind that the answer was there, and why it was the answer was on the board. Of course it was also 15.
One asked, "will that always happen?"
You have got to be kidding. How old were these kids?
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ArchangelMichael Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:24:16pm |
re: #357 Slumbering Behemoth
Greatest scene ever... "I would have started with lasers... 8 o'clock day 1!"
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:24:50pm |
re: #333 Mich-again
I know what you mean. There is checking the math and there is the "sniff test" that doesn't require a calculator. Like when you figure out the static load on a bridge and its a negative number. Forget partial credit for just getting the sign incorrect.. How could you write down that the net load was in an upward direction? Same for writing down the speed of light is 27 mph. Hello!
Oh yeah. Just pause and think! Sometimes it's just shocking. In general, any time you get a negative mass, it's an issue. If you get a speed over C, it's an issue. If you get that energy is not conserved, it's an issue.
I can forgive missing a factor of "i" in a non-intuitive calculation. I can forgive missing a factor of 2. I can not forgive handing in an answer that should be obviously wrong if thought about for 2 minutes - unless they write a note that goes, "I know this can't be right, but I've checked my work three times and I don't see where I messed up." Then OK. I'll give them more partial credit than otherwise.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:24:54pm |
re: #353 PT Barnum
She certainly wore a hotter wardrobe.
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ArchangelMichael Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:24:57pm |
re: #365 Racer X
You have got to be kidding. How old were these kids?
They were teaching majors at a university if I read it correctly.
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Mich-again Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:25:17pm |
re: #354 LudwigVanQuixote
So I asked well what is 3X5. They took out their calculators and got 15. I asked so what is 5X3? Again with the calculators, never mind that the answer was there, and why it was the answer was on the board. Of course it was also 15.
That story is as scary as any horror film I've seen. Yikes. I might have gotten fired right there. Good thing I'm not employed teachin physics to dummies.
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Daniel Ballard Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:26:28pm |
re: #354 LudwigVanQuixote
I could share a similar story or two about explaining karat gold math. That is simple proportions of adding master alloy to 24 kt to make it exactly 14kt. The explanation or the lesson is not so funny. But when that math goes wrong and the metals are mixed-Now that's the funny part.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:27:04pm |
re: #365 Racer X
You have got to be kidding. How old were these kids?
They were 18-20 year old college kids in a state university.
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The Sanity Inspector Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:27:10pm |
re: #347 Alouette
Anyone else have this happen? I think I'm going to call Comcast in the morning. They will probably try to talk me into buying a big screen HDTV which I can't afford.
Doesn't have to be big screen, you know. Did you get a converter box?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:28:47pm |
re: #360 PT Barnum
To each their own. I'd take a growling red-head over a submissive blonde any day of the year.
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Racer X Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:30:05pm |
re: #372 LudwigVanQuixote
They were 18-20 year old college kids in a state university.
How did you hold back from telling them all to get the hell out and come back when they have brains?
A calculator - to figure out 3x5. And then wondering if 5x3 was the same. Amazing. What makes these people think they are in any way qualified to tech others?
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The Sanity Inspector Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:30:06pm |
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Mich-again Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:30:28pm |
re: #367 LudwigVanQuixote
Luckily, I went to Engineering school back when calculators were first getting very powerful so many of the professors banned calculators altogether from the exams rather than try to figure out who was using them to look up saved formulas or example problems. If you made the right assumptions and figured out the equations correctly, the math at the end was typically easy enough to do in your head. If the equations yielded some difficult math, you just knew something was wrong upstream.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:30:47pm |
re: #354 LudwigVanQuixote
CALCULATOARS TO FIGURE OUT 3x5?
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The Left Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:30:53pm |
re: #354 LudwigVanQuixote
re: #328 Rightwingconspirator
The worst and most painful class I ever taught was physics for elementary ed majors.
I don't find that hard to believe at all. I'll have to go dig up the figures, but elementary ed majors as a group score lower than any other major on the GRE IIRC.
In many places elementary ed is perceived as (and actually is) the 'easiest' major, so right off the bat the people going into it are often lazy and not very bright.
(BTW, this shouldnt be taken as an indictment of all teachers, but of the people majoring in education as undergrads. I think a good chunk of them never go on to teach).
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lostlakehiker Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:31:33pm |
re: #317 LudwigVanQuixote
Freetoken posted a great rebuttle to Freakanomics in the science links.
[Link: www.realclimate.org...]
The good professor, now being painted as a hero of the denier crowd, a professor of economics made some very terrible, and silly mathematical errors in his book - as in the kind that basic arithmetic would show false.
I am once again convinced that if an economist says something in relation to science, I should default assume (s)he is wrong.
I was trying to explain that seeding SO2 would cause acid rain recently. Seeding SO2 is another thing devout followers of this book think is just too clever.
There wold have been a simple chemistry thought there to apply as well. Having not read the book though, I was not aware of the tragic failures in basic arithmetic that are even worse.
It reminds me of an exercise we gave some students in a science for the very uninterested course. It was simply, convert the speed of light into miles per hour. The idea was o get them to see it in units they knew and get the idea it is really quite fast.
One kid reported it was 27 mph.
I asked him if that made any sense at all before he handed it in.
He said that's what he got on the calculator.
I asked him if he noticed blue shifts when riding a bike on campus.
I asked him if he ever noticed anything funny when he drove a car on the freeway.
Again, the way that people do not get the idea that science always has to relate to the real world is astonishing and disappointing.
The Wall Street Journal has given print space to the CO2 saturation argument. They could have fact-checked.
The "CO2 is already saturated" argument is a crock, but it's a subtle crock. Real scientists fell for it in the early 1900's:
realcimate says
and real climate says moreover:
realclimate sayeth Thanks, gavin, for the tip.
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abolitionist Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:31:55pm |
re: #354 LudwigVanQuixote
[snip]
After you get done lamenting that these are future teachers, we can lament that these people vote too.
Let us hope that none of them count votes. I suspect they would not find a calculator as helpful as for the 3x5 problem.
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Daniel Ballard Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:32:41pm |
re: #378 MandyManners
Best response to the post. #1
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The Sanity Inspector Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:32:42pm |
re: #354 LudwigVanQuixote
And they'll be unfireable, and join the teachers' unions and vote Democratic en bloc.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:32:57pm |
re: #376 The Sanity Inspector
Great scene. Leaves off the "He got some smarts from you, what did you get from him" part, though.
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ArchangelMichael Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:33:26pm |
re: #378 MandyManners
CALCULATOARS TO FIGURE OUT 3x5?
Yes... college students...
We need to clone Jaime Escalante and send the clones to every high school in America.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:33:48pm |
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McSpiff Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:34:10pm |
re: #377 Mich-again
As someone currently in engineering (Computer/electrical if it matters) I can say that overall I have been allowed calculators in maybe 50% of my classes. Some ban graphing calculators, almost all banned HP (known for ad hoc wireless), and one (an economics class) provided freshly wiped basic calculators. YMMV, etc,etc.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:34:26pm |
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Pepper Fox Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:34:59pm |
re: #388 McSpiff
I've got some antique Heathkits, some with magnetic strips. You should bring one in just to fuck with a prof.
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:35:30pm |
The Holy Grail, Annie Hall, My Cousin Vinny, Take the Money and Run and Life of Brian are a few of my favourites which I feel are funnier than Blazing Saddles.
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Mr. Crankypants Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:36:13pm |
re: #385 Slumbering Behemoth
Found this in the process of looking up another scene...
for all you GOPers..
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Racer X Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:36:24pm |
My gast is flabbered.
"Higher Education" must refer to reefer.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:37:41pm |
re: #375 Racer X
How did you hold back from telling them all to get the hell out and come back when they have brains?
A calculator - to figure out 3x5. And then wondering if 5x3 was the same. Amazing. What makes these people think they are in any way qualified to tech others?
The honest answer is they get a 3.5 average or above in the education department courses that include such things as how to cut out those decorations for the classroom.
The thing with a state school; is that they, by mandate, take lots and lots of people, even the flagship campuses.
To be certain, if you look at the typical state school out side of California, (places like Berkley, UCSD and UCLA are far from typical) you will find that the smartest kid there is just as smart as the smartest kid at an Ivy or MIT or Stanford or Johns Hopkins or U. Chicago. However, the dumbest kids at those schools would still be in the top 5% at the state schools.
The kids in teh elementary class were passed up and through a broken Highschool system, no child was left behind, and then they come through the sdoors of the state school, which will not let them have a real major, but will none the less take heir parent's money and give them something to do so they get some sort of degree.
Most of the ones in the education dept were frankly the sorts of young women who saw teaching as a sort of glorified form of babysitting. Again to be fair, there are still some great teachers out there. There are also some very bright people who go into it for idealistic reasons. Unfortunately, they are the minority.
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Daniel Ballard Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:37:44pm |
re: #384 The Sanity Inspector
The guys in my example are eminently fire-able. That's when the math skills sharpened up. See if you could figure out the proportions you could add metals to get the days castings done without making your boss spend $1025 per ounce to replace the gold you suddenly need to refine back to pure.
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lostlakehiker Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:37:49pm |
re: #354 LudwigVanQuixote
re: #328 Rightwingconspirator
The worst and most painful class I ever taught was physics for elementary ed majors.
To be fair, there were a couple of really good kids there that would make excellent teachers and who were really stellar people.
The rest were dumb as bricks.
Before you jump on me for being harsh, please let me explain just how stupid, stupid can be, and then lament, gnash your teeth and wail, that most of those kids are going to go on to teach.
There was no mathematical requirement for the class. The goal was to tell them stories enough that they didn't completely lie to their kiddies when they were teachers themselves.
However, there was homework. In one, they had to find the area of a 3 by 5 rectangle.
They whined piteously that there was not supposed to be any math in the class. They said they would not have to know this, because they weren't going to be scientists, they were going to be teachers. I explained to them that they would have to teach this in 3rd grade to the average kids and first grade to the bright ones.
So I explained multiplication patiently. I drew five rows of three dots in columns. I explained that 5X3 was literally taking the number 3 five times and adding it all up.
I had them count the dots.
I expanded the idea into squares and motivated the notion of area.
They were looking at me like lobsters were coming out of my ears.
I asked what was wrong.
One of the brave ones asked "Shouldn't it be 3X5 instead of 5X3?"
Indeed the problem listed the 3 first.
I asked if they thought it would make a difference. Almost all raised their little hands. The fact that it was on the board in geometric form for why it would not escaped them.
So I asked well what is 3X5. They took out their calculators and got 15. I asked so what is 5X3? Again with the calculators, never mind that the answer was there, and why it was the answer was on the board. Of course it was also 15.
One asked, "will that always happen?"
After you get done lamenting that these are future teachers, we can lament that these people vote too.
I can top that. I had a student who was having trouble with the idea of volume, and we regressed to area of rectangles, and I drew a 3 by 4 grid and asked the student to count the squares, and they lost track and couldn't count them. Not even in several tries. Arrgh. This, in college. But thank G-d, not as a general phenomenon.
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Racer X Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:38:24pm |
In case Ojoe doesn't show up:
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McSpiff Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:38:56pm |
re: #390 Pepper Fox
Had to hit wikipedia, but that stuff looks pretty cool. A lot of the profs try and keep that type of gear working, just because it can be so much easier to explain what's going on in a visual manner. They also love to throw in a few "Make this work" labs a year.
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Daniel Ballard Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:39:22pm |
re: #398 Racer X
Gorgeous moon tonight too. Maybe I should step out with the 40D. Hmmm
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:40:50pm |
re: #384 The Sanity Inspector
And they'll be unfireable, and join the teachers' unions and vote Democratic en bloc.
Actually no. You would be surprised how many of them were a-political or even Republican. Not that they could tell you why they were Republican politically or economically, but they associated themselves that way usually for religious reasons.
As to the teachers union - I wish we took them seriously. If we set real standards, and paid teachers real wages, so as to attract talented people to the job, we'd have much better primary education.
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goddamnedfrank Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:41:10pm |
re: #354 LudwigVanQuixote
That story, in a nutshell, is why I stopped at the M.S. and decided to get shit done for a living.
/ex-wife taught 8th grade.
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Racer X Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:42:01pm |
re: #395 LudwigVanQuixote
I thought "no child left behind" put pressure on the teachers. I did not realize it pushed the dumb kids right on through.
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Sheila Broflovski Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:42:04pm |
re: #373 The Sanity Inspector
Doesn't have to be big screen, you know. Did you get a converter box?
I have a converter box, don't know how to get it set up with the Comcast cable connected.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:43:53pm |
re: #404 Racer X
I thought "no child left behind" put pressure on the teachers. I did not realize it pushed the dumb kids right on through.
It's puts pressure on the teachers to see to it that the kids pass standardized tests (which have been terribly dumbed down). It reinforces memorization, not learning.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:44:05pm |
re: #405 Alouette
I have a converter box, don't know how to get it set up with the Comcast cable connected.
Um, Alouette. You don't need a DTV converter box if you already have cable.
Are you talking about a DTV converter box?
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The Sanity Inspector Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:44:58pm |
re: #405 Alouette
I have a converter box, don't know how to get it set up with the Comcast cable connected.
Phone them and ask. If they blow you off, ask to speak to a supervisor. You're paying them & should receive good service for it.
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Ojoe Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:46:52pm |
re: #388 McSpiff
When I was in college we used slide rules and you had to have your own idea of where the decimal point was, which meant that in engineering problems you had to have a real intuitive feel for the actual quantities involved.
About half way through, electronic calculators came in, and they were very expensive, so I didn't buy one.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:47:20pm |
re: #408 The Sanity Inspector
Phone them and ask. If they blow you off, ask to speak to a supervisor. You're paying them & should receive good service for it.
What they said! Call them!!!
You're paying for the service...
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spirochete Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:47:22pm |
re: #379 iceweasel
Back at Texas A&M there was an elem. ed major who tutored the engineering students in Diff. EQ. She was awesome. Forget her name but I'm sure she did well.
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Pepper Fox Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:48:24pm |
re: #399 McSpiff
I have to do the same thing with beat-to-hell out of date medical equipment because it's all our school can afford.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:49:04pm |
re: #412 spirochete
Back at Texas A&M there was an elem. ed major who tutored the engineering students in Diff. EQ. She was awesome. Forget her name but I'm sure she did well.
There are like I said a few very bright ones who take the job for idealistic reasons.
G-d bless her.
Think back at your own school experiences. I don't know for certain, but I think it would be a good bet that most of your teachers were pretty terrible - save one or two who really made a difference.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:49:07pm |
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Mich-again Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:50:46pm |
re: #406 LudwigVanQuixote
The American school system is designed more around helping kids with an IQ of 80 than challenging those with an IQ of 120. I think a big part of the problem in our schools is that too many kids are bored and then become behavior problems.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:52:00pm |
BTW,
I recently got into quite an argument with a junior rabbi at a Jewish religious school. He was teaching that the universe was literally 5769 years old and that the dinosaurs were a test of faith.
I pointed out that when we say, G-d is truth twice a day, it implies that G-d would not set up the whole universe as a lie.
Of course he heard nothing.
However, many kids and parents did.
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spirochete Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:53:49pm |
re: #415 LudwigVanQuixote
Yep, that's entirely true. I only had one teacher tell me "if you want to learn more about this, go to college and take the class there"
I'm now 15 years out of my doctorate and going back to fill the empty spaces.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:55:24pm |
re: #417 Mich-again
The American school system is designed more around helping kids with an IQ of 80 than challenging those with an IQ of 120. I think a big part of the problem in our schools is that too many kids are bored and then become behavior problems.
Oh that is is for certain. I could not agree more.
This is one of the major reasons I keep arguing for hiring more teachers with better pay.
If you put a teacher in a room with 30 kids, they are constrained to teach to the middle. They have little time to help the ones who are struggling, and the bright ones are assumed to be able to just be good and take care of themselves.
The biggest reason, IMHO, that math is so poorly understood in this country is that because of our system, kids are held back from interesting things for too long. By the time they see anything interesting, math has already become something tedious and awful. It would be grand of course if those teaching the math knew it as well and could explain it, rather than quoting dictums from books without reasons and expecting memorization.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:56:29pm |
re: #418 LudwigVanQuixote
You misunderstand, LVQ. It was not G*d who planted those bones to test our faith, but the Angel of Light who did so, to make us stray.
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Mich-again Sun, Nov 1, 2009 8:59:53pm |
re: #415 LudwigVanQuixote
For Freshman honor physics I had a professor who had some obscure astral physics equation named for him. At first I was a bit intimidated he would be too smart to teach Freshmen, but it turned out he understood everything so well he could make it all seem so simple. We had to memorize only one formula.. F=ma. Derive the rest.
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spirochete Sun, Nov 1, 2009 9:01:26pm |
re: #420 LudwigVanQuixote
My father and I have had a theory about teaching math to children for awhile. He has a doc. in Mech. Eng and mine is in medicine. We have long thought that algebra could be taught to 4th graders if done correctly. My daughter just started 5th grade and we have her up to where she gets the idea of functions. I have taught her the importance of tangents, rates of change, graphing and other things. It has morphed into cool fun time for us.
And she really enjoys it.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sun, Nov 1, 2009 9:03:11pm |
re: #423 Mich-again
For Freshman honor physics I had a professor who had some obscure astral physics equation named for him. At first I was a bit intimidated he would be too smart to teach Freshmen, but it turned out he understood everything so well he could make it all seem so simple. We had to memorize only one formula.. F=ma. Derive the rest.
And that is how the pro's do it.
There are two ways to do undergrad physics for no-majors.
Way one: Learn 5 basic principles, how to apply them and derive as you need.
Way two: Memorize every special case you can cram into your head, then get frustrated when given a problem you don't have a recipe for.
Pretty much everyone tries way two, because calculus is just "scary."
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Randall Gross Sun, Nov 1, 2009 9:05:32pm |
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Mich-again Sun, Nov 1, 2009 9:07:19pm |
re: #420 LudwigVanQuixote
By the time they see anything interesting, math has already become something tedious and awful.
I volunteer in a science and math program from the SAE in a Detroit public school. I always spend the first class just trying to get kids fired up for how cool math is. Like showing the math behind the notion that to make a 12 ounce can from the least amount of aluminum the height has to be twice the diameter. Ha. Then after showing how the math works, you show them 3 cans of Pepsi to prove that the math really does work and an aluminum can is really made in that shape to use the least amount of aluminum and impress on them that the companies who make millions of cans every year really do hire people who understand math. And its not really that hard to understand.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 1, 2009 9:08:05pm |
re: #395 LudwigVanQuixote
The honest answer is they get a 3.5 average or above in the education department courses that include such things as how to cut out those decorations for the classroom.
Scissors are hard, ya' know!
Seriously, teachers at The Kid's school have to have a minimum of a Master's degree, and a high percentage of them have PhD's.
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spirochete Sun, Nov 1, 2009 9:08:43pm |
re: #427 MikeySDCA
She clearly comes from a family of very clever folks and is doubtless quite bright. What can happen in such cases is not necessarily applicable to the general population. Pity. She does sound a dear.
Thank you. We also play Sonic the Hedgehog on the Wii and she creams me.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 1, 2009 9:09:02pm |
re: #423 Mich-again
For Freshman honor physics I had a professor who had some obscure astral physics equation named for him. At first I was a bit intimidated he would be too smart to teach Freshmen, but it turned out he understood everything so well he could make it all seem so simple. We had to memorize only one formula.. F=ma. Derive the rest.
Force = mass x acceleration?
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Mich-again Sun, Nov 1, 2009 9:10:02pm |
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sun, Nov 1, 2009 9:11:03pm |
re: #424 spirochete
My father and I have had a theory about teaching math to children for awhile. He has a doc. in Mech. Eng and mine is in medicine. We have long thought that algebra could be taught to 4th graders if done correctly. My daughter just started 5th grade and we have her up to where she gets the idea of functions. I have taught her the importance of tangents, rates of change, graphing and other things. It has morphed into cool fun time for us.
And she really enjoys it.
Honestly it depends on the kid. Some would go much further than that. The point is to keep them engaged and to find problems that are always challenging, but doable for them. This requires one on one attention that comes best from parents or dedicated teachers.
In my experience, I have met exactly three "average" kids who I felt would just never be able to learn calculus. I've met hundreds who thought they could never do it however. I started tutoring it at 12.
Now before you think I am just bragging, I'd like to tell you a funny story where I got quite the come-uppance.
Back when I was in graduate school, and I was doing string theory, my advisor was bragging that he had learned calculus at 13. I said nothing, but he knew from my face... well we had a laugh. Please note, the man is so much smarter than me it hurts, and I suspect that when he thinks hard enough things move... Also note, he was setting me up.
A little later, I was invited to his house where I met his then seven year old daughter.
She was very polite and very sweet and she said that her dad told her I would be glad to talk about math with her. I said sure! What math would you like to talk about?
She said Laurent series. She went on to say that calculus was easy, but complex analysis was tricky.
My advisor laughed at me. I laughed too.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 1, 2009 9:15:10pm |
re: #432 Mich-again
Yes it does!
I was one of those girls who bought into the notion that math and sciences were not for girls. It was one of the biggest mistakes of my childhood.
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spirochete Sun, Nov 1, 2009 9:16:46pm |
re: #434 LudwigVanQuixote
That's really awesome! What a great story.
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spirochete Sun, Nov 1, 2009 9:18:04pm |
Night all. Thanks for the conversation. Uplifting.
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Mich-again Sun, Nov 1, 2009 9:20:17pm |
re: #435 MandyManners
That was the stereotype back when I was a kid too. I think its changed?
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sun, Nov 1, 2009 9:25:52pm |
re: #435 MandyManners
I was one of those girls who bought into the notion that math and sciences were not for girls. It was one of the biggest mistakes of my childhood.
It's a sad fact that many people think that way and that many women believe it.
Even in the most feminist and "modern" households there is the issue that math is hard - even for the bright kids, male or female. In those times, the kids need to be pushed when they get a little frustrated. All to often, if it is a boy, there is no question of the boy having to do the math. However, for a little girl, the parents default assume that math maybe just wan't for her.
It's an absolute crime.
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Bagua Sun, Nov 1, 2009 9:41:17pm |
re: #441 Racer X
Good, a POTUS should show respect for the men he sends to combat. There is a human dimension to sending troops into combat.
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Racer X Sun, Nov 1, 2009 9:54:03pm |
As an American I am not so shocked that Obama was given the Nobel Peace Prize without any accomplishments to his name, but that America gave him the White House based on the same credentials.
- Newt Gingrich
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Bagua Sun, Nov 1, 2009 9:57:29pm |
re: #443 Racer X
Regardless, it is President Obama now, it is good to see him taking his responsibility as Commander-in-Chief with the gravitas the position deserves.
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Racer X Sun, Nov 1, 2009 9:59:37pm |
re: #444 Bagua
Regardless, it is President Obama now, it is good to see him taking his responsibility as Commander-in-Chief with the gravitas the position deserves.
Did you read the entire article linked in #441?
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Bagua Sun, Nov 1, 2009 10:01:28pm |
re: #445 Racer X
Yes, it was a highly partisan hitjob, the blogger has a serious case of ODS.
My reaction is different.
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Racer X Sun, Nov 1, 2009 10:04:44pm |
re: #446 Bagua
Yes, it was a highly partisan hitjob, the blogger has a serious case of ODS.
My reaction is different.
Any of what was posted make you go "huh"? Or was it an immediate "Brick Wall!" "ODS alert!"
Because I went "huh."
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Bagua Sun, Nov 1, 2009 10:10:17pm |
re: #447 Racer X
No, at first it looked like an analysis of his salute with examples from other Presidents.
What clued me was this little tidbit:
To me there is no speculation; this was an orchestrated event. Obama stalks bodies like some sort of ghoul until he strikes paydirt and gets the photo, but anybody who calls him on it is a sicko for daring to suggest those bodies were used as props.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Nov 1, 2009 10:15:10pm |
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Racer X Sun, Nov 1, 2009 10:17:11pm |
re: #448 Bagua
Yes that quote is pretty bad. I must have missed it. But I am wondering why the President would go to Dover AFB with the WH press pool and a bunch of photographers?
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Bagua Sun, Nov 1, 2009 10:26:30pm |
re: #450 Racer X
Yes that quote is pretty bad. I must have missed it. But I am wondering why the President would go to Dover AFB with the WH press pool and a bunch of photographers?
Well, as the Commander in Chief who is the commander of his forces deployed in battle, it is important for him to show he respects the human sacrifice involved and realised these are real men and women he is sending in harms way. This is confidence building for the troops and helps reassure the citizens that he is taking his responsibility seriously.
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