This is a bit last-week, but Jon Stewart gets his first heckler in 11 years during an interview with an Israeli and a Palestinian pleading for peace.

Waves... and the peninsula... never ending waves... and the bird... churning waves... yet the pier refuses to budge, sitting defiantly against the sea... though in the end the sea will win... the consistent, unchanging sea...

Speaking of unchanging... there is good ol' Kris Kringle:

/You are now down to 51 shopping days... perhaps it is time you visited the Amazon store and started buying?

re: #1 Pepper Fox

This is a bit last-week, but Jon Stewart gets his first heckler in 11 years during an interview with an Israeli and a Palestinian pleading for peace.

[Link: www.thedailyshow.com...]

Stewart on people doing less than Obama to win a Nobel Peace Prize:
"Yasser Arafat won one for shaking hands with a Jewish guy."

/saw that episode, actually.

re: #2 freetoken

I was sick of Christmas 2 days before Halloween when the grocery store put out the full display...but I still bought a bag of those amazing mint M&Ms.

I'm listening to PMSNBC whine about Rethuglicans just fot the laughs. Whining about Fox news and the crazy Reich wing party. After along day, PMSNBC is always a good laugh with a bedtime snack. Funny stuff, how does PMSNBC stay on the air? Nobody watches PMSNBC even the leftyist of lefty nut-jobs. The only thing lower in TV news ratings is CNN.

re: #4 Pepper Fox

...but I still bought a bag of those amazing mint M&Ms.

That's the spirit!

re: #5 sngnsgt

apparently, sngnsgt does..

re: #5 sngnsgt

I'm listening to PMSNBC whine about Rethuglicans just fot the laughs. Whining about Fox news and the crazy Reich wing party. After along day, PMSNBC is always a good laugh with a bedtime snack. Funny stuff, how does PMSNBC stay on the air? Nobody watches PMSNBC even the leftyist of lefty nut-jobs. The only thing lower in TV news ratings is CNN.

MSNBC stays on for the same reason as Fox News. There's always a choir to preach to.

re: #6 freetoken

In the name of Christmas commercialization, here's Shopko selling the Charlie Brown Christmas tree. You know, the one he picks in order to reject the commercialization of Christmas.

Image: FkjOP.jpg

But why am I bitching about commercialization of Christmas, I'm atheist! Let's go get smashed on egg nog and get in to debt!

re: #8 laZardo

It's a pretty small choir they preach to.

re: #10 sngnsgt

Oops, I don't know if I meant small choir or small minded choir...?

re: #11 sngnsgt

Oops, I don't know if I meant small choir or small minded choir...?

It does sound good both ways.

I've finally gotten around to creating a resume for my OJT (on-the-job training, aka the college internship) program.

You can download it from the Artist's Bio section of my portfolio website if you want to take a look.

Time for me to get to bed. Goodnight, all.

re: #14 Dark_Falcon

Time for me to get to bed. Goodnight, all.

Night DF

re: #14 Dark_Falcon

Night DF.

re: #2 freetoken

/You are now down to 51 shopping days... perhaps it is time you visited the Amazon store and started buying?

"Shop Smart. Shop S-mart"

This is a good time to start posting my favorite songs with Ocean in the title...

re: #13 laZardo

Looks like you're developing a portfolio... don't let anything stop you!

re: #13 laZardo

Good work here! Nice to meet another artist :)

re: #9 Pepper Fox

I'm trying not to go into any more debt, I have this habit of buying turbocharged european cars and it's starting to catch up with me :D

But eggnog? Hells yeah! We make a fine eggnog that has left many a Christmas party participant collapsed in a drunken heap, unable to play any more Rock Band.

I got this from [Link: www.loonwatch.com:...]

Copy and paste these addresses:

www.fuckallah.com

www.fuckislam.com

Guess which site they lead to.

Not ultra timely, but I don't read the Seattle Times that often. Bill For Glenn Beck Day Stuns Mt. Vernon.

The chief says the crowd of 800 to 1,000 demonstrators that greeted Beck for his early-evening appearance on Sept. 26 was the biggest protest he's seen in his 32 years as a Mount Vernon police officer.

And the cost to make sure everything went smoothly for the town of Mt. Vernon: $17,748.85, with some amounts still not factored in.

Tickets to see Beck were sold for $25, and the mayor said he hoped sales would generate $10,000 to give to the historic Lincoln Theatre in town. Beck said he'd match that with another $10,000 of his own. But the math on that part of Glenn Beck Day went askew. There were 577 tickets sold that generated $14,425, before expenses. Income from ticket sales would have been higher if 92 comp tickets hadn't been given out.

Cost to see a raving nutjob appear at his home town: $17,748.85
Having more protesters show up than tickets sold: priceless

Drive by LNDT DJing before bed. One of my top 10 from my high school days because it's been one of those days...

re: #25 ArchangelMichael

Ministry! You're a good person :D

I once was ejected from a Ministry/Sepultura concert in Seattle when I was in high school. Tried to hop down to the floor from the reserved seating (this is a hockey arena btw) and got caught, put in a headlock by secrity and tossed outside on my ass. Ahh, memories!

re: #23 Hector1980

ROLFCopter@Spencer

What a douchebag...

re: #26 WindUpBird

Ministry! You're a good person :D

I once was ejected from a Ministry/Sepultura concert in Seattle when I was in high school. Tried to hop down to the floor from the reserved seating (this is a hockey arena btw) and got caught, put in a headlock by secrity and tossed outside on my ass. Ahh, memories!

A friend on mine got arrested after a Sepultura/Pantera concert in 94 because his car got towed and he assaulted the security guard that was supposedly responsible. That was a fun evening.

He's not much of a friend anymore and that was only the beginning of his overnight stays in the pokie downtown.

re: #27 ArchangelMichael

domain names available for the taking:

robertspencerismuslim.com
robertspencerspanties.com
robertspencerbluesexplosion.com

re: #28 ArchangelMichael

I was the proverbial 120 pound twiggy dirtbag metalhead, I was incapable of assault. :D

Pantera, wow. I looove Dime's guitars, always wished I could have seen him play live, but that band seems to attract a violent and unsavory crowd.

OK one more from my high school top 10 and then I really need to at least pretend to get some sleep. This was probably my all time favorite track for several years after it was released. My Pretty Hate Machine CD and case look like they've been through a nuclear holocaust or two.

re: #31 ArchangelMichael

Oh dude. :D I've been to four NIN shows, including the David Bowie/NIN tour. One of my favorite musicians ever. I remember hearing Head like a Hole for the first time and just sitting on my ass on my bed and marveling at it. I had never heard anything electronic that was both that heavy and that hooky.

re: #32 WindUpBird

I've never been impressed with anything NIN has done since this. They really took it up a notch for their intro and then I had way too high expectations I guess.

re: #32 WindUpBird

Oh dude. :D I've been to four NIN shows, including the David Bowie/NIN tour. One of my favorite musicians ever. I remember hearing Head like a Hole for the first time and just sitting on my ass on my bed and marveling at it. I had never heard anything electronic that was both that heavy and that hooky.

Never got into NIN but the Year Zero web saga was pretty engaging.

re: #33 ArchangelMichael

I am a big fan of PHM, Broken, Downward Spiral, and Year Zero. :) I believe Downward Spiral has the about best production sound of any hard rock album of the 90's.

Slow thread.

Posted on an earlier thread

"I mean, if the Republicans were running in Afghanistan, they'd be running on the Taliban ticket as far as I can see."

Rep. Jim Moran (D-Va)

Yeah. Republicans continue to act Taliban-like.

Everybody just waitin' on the NY and NJ election results..

re: #23 Hector1980

How the hell can anyone continue to defend Spencer as any sort of 'serious scholar'? Let alone overlook what a raging hateful nutcase he is.
I hope everyone reads the article you're talking about; I think I will pop it in spinoffs if people haven't seen it:

LoonWatch Exclusive: Robert Spencer’s “f**kallah.com” & “f**kislam.com”
Hatemonger Exposed:

Imagine if the scientific research belonging to a scholar of marine biology was accessible online via the URL “fuckmarinebiology.com” or if a scholar of Jewish Studies put out his material under the URL “fuckyahweh.com” or “fuckjudaism.com”.

What would that say about the scholarly ways of such a scholar? Would such a buffoon be taken seriously by anyone? Would his work carry an ounce of credibility?

Well imagine no more, Loonwatch has gone digging and sure enough, Robert Spencer, a long discredited anti-Muslim hatemonger posing as an “Islam scholar” has shown his scholarly objective ways with the heinously named URL’s “fuckallah.com” and “fuckislam.com” redirecting to his cesspool of subjectivity, the David Horowitz funded hate blog, Jihadwatch.org.

In doing so, Robert Spencer may have been trying to actively market his hate material to like-minded audiences. It is a well known fact that keywords are a crucial factor in the popularity of a blog. This is damning evidence of the true gutter intent behind his little blog project which is to attract and further incite those with Islamophobic tendencies, his primary audience.

more at link.

re: #39 iceweasel

He's pretty mean, isn't he?

re: #38 ralphieboy

Everybody just waitin' on the NY and NJ election results..

Ahem...

VA!

Kind of ashamed... I've spent so much time watching the National political debate, I know very little about my own Governor's race.

I'm not voting today. I have said many times, that if you do not understand the issues or have a real grasp on the candidates, don't vote.

All I've seen from this campaign is that both candidates have a plan... fiscal responsibility... better schools... same shit, different election.

re: #40 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

He's pretty mean, isn't he?

That's one way of putting it. How are you, FBV? :)

Here's something also mean:

(More recent goodies at LoonWatch on Spencer, this is just for the extra mockery)

Oct 30th: This Week in Worst Dressed Islamophobe
More recent goodies at LoonWatch on Spencer, this is just for the extra mockery:

Oct 30th: This Week in Worst Dressed Islamophobe

...it does look like he is drenched in perspiration, balling up his fists in anticipation of the Mooslim hordes who will no doubt fill the Mosque soon and exact “creeping-stealth-shariah-jihad” upon him…Spencer you might be waiting a while, there is a chair behind you take a seat.

re: #43 iceweasel

"Reasoned debate" has spiraled to "cesspool" with amazing alackrity, hasn't it?

re: #44 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"Reasoned debate" has spiraled to "cesspool" with amazing alackrity, hasn't it?

I'd agree with that. Maybe it's a new law of gravity of a sort. Everything being pulled downward.

re: #45 iceweasel

I have found myself going down that path over the past few months, and am determined to at least pull myself out of it.

I find that posting on *chan imageboards makes for some great "cesspool therapy."

re: #47 lazardo

I find that posting on *chan imageboards makes for some great "cesspool therapy."

I find that looking at *chan imageboards often creates a need in me for therapy. :( /

re: #46 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I have found myself going down that path over the past few months, and am determined to at least pull myself out of it.

You're a good person. FBV. I never noticed you wallowing in any cesspool personally.

Good morning, all lizardoids.

Hurry sailor sail away
You better be back on board by break of day

Every night in Jamaica
I`d sing with the ladies
Drink with the men
Til the morning appear

As the sunshine
Is fresh on my face
The songs of the night
Would still ring in my ear

re: #37 solomonpanting

Posted on an earlier thread

Yeah. Republicans continue to act Taliban-like.

RIP to the poor young woman. And yes; some liberals looked full in the face of The Jihad for nine years and the only thing they learned was a new term of abuse for Republicans: "The Taliban wing of the Republican party..."

Good morning, Lizards. The dawn finds us at a brisk 28 degrees F (roughly -1 degree C), and a beautiful frost covers the landscape. Winter is here.

re: #51 thedopefishlives

Stupid time change finds me awake too early here in Pacific Time.

re: #51 thedopefishlives

Good morning, Lizards. The dawn finds us at a brisk 28 degrees F (roughly -1 degree C), and a beautiful frost covers the landscape. Winter is here.

here?...here it will be a mild 70 today, and here, there are four distinct seasons

Something for the hippies this morning...

RIP Randy...

re: #30 WindUpBird

I was into hardcore punk back in the day (still am, just don't go to the shows anymore). Back in Cleveland the neo-nazi skins used to show up for certain shows and take over the pit. I was maybe only 5'8, and 135 so I looked like an easy target -- but I was athletic as hell and claimed my fair share of skinhead victims. Crazy nights.

re: #53 albusteve

here?...here it will be a mild 70 today, and here, there are four distinct seasons

Here, there are only two seasons: Winter and construction.

Posted on an earlier thread

"I mean, if the Republicans were running in Afghanistan, they'd be running on the Taliban ticket as far as I can see."

Rep. Jim Moran (D-Va)

re: #37 solomonpanting

Posted on an earlier thread

Yeah. Republicans continue to act Taliban-like.

Yessir, and Jim Moran can expletive deleted my hairy expletive deleted until he gets a mouthful of my expletive deleted.
Hope he gets retired in Nov. 2012.

re: #54 The Sanity Inspector

Something for the hippies this morning...

RIP Randy...

Spirit was a terrific live show...saw them maybe three times back in the day...a really unique sound for that time

Good morning lizards. I can't wait to vote this morning here in Virginia.

re: #56 thedopefishlives

Here, there are only two seasons: Winter and construction.

years back I decided to leave the mid-west forever...there was only one place to go and now I'm here...you'd have to kill me to get me to leave NM

re: #60 albusteve

years back I decided to leave the mid-west forever...there was only one place to go and now I'm here...you'd have to kill me to get me to leave NM

See, there are some of us crazy nutjobs that actually LIKE the Midwest. It's a rich culture that I don't think a lot of people appreciate. Mostly because they think we're just plain, ordinary folk who live amidst hundreds of square miles of corn. (Hint: It's not quite all like that.)

How the GOP Loses Women

Watch out, Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison. Locked in a Republican primary battle for governor of Texas, and unwilling to say women should go to jail for their abortions, she is the next duck in the barefoot and pregnant shooting gallery. All the coverage has been about the conservative attack on the Republican establishment. But Scozzafava’s defeat and the mounting campaign against Hutchison reveals a fascinating and underreported problem for the Republicans: They will only run women who will say that women should not control their reproductive fates...

The scene was set the day Hutchison announced her candidacy for the governorship of Texas last January. Just down the street, the incumbent governor, [anti-science creationist] Rick Perry, who has shown no signs of stepping aside, was addressing the Texas Rally for Life. Perry had already started attacking Hutchison for not being anti-abortion enough. A few days later, Sarah Palin stepped in and announced her support for the anti-abortion Perry.

Coincidentally, one of Texas Rally For Life's "steering committee" members, Awake America Ministries, offers the following mission statement:

The MAIN PURPOSE of Awake America Ministries is to bring America back under God through 5 vehicles:

1. Raising up Godly Laws and Leaders and exposing where candidates stand on moral issues (Voter Registration and Guides, have training classes concerning moral issues, training up Christians to perform their Civic Duties before God or how to run as a candidate, having a church liaison to update the church on what is going on in government and finally, how to have a voice with Elected Officials) [insert scripture references here] (Hosea 4:6)(Exodus 18: 21)(Proverbs 29:2)
2. Strengthening Churches
3. Strengthening Families
4. Bringing our Public Schools back under God.
5. Activities to encourage America to support Israel.(Gen 12:3)

These five areas will bring America back under great Prosperity in our soul, lives and country. (Psalm 33:12)

In short, Perry is pandering to the far right (as if he ever stopped), and so is Palin, by proxy. If there was ever any doubt as to their agenda, it's time to take off the blinders.

re: #54 The Sanity Inspector

Something for the hippies this morning...

RIP Randy...

At least the hippies actually protested against something. Hipsters on the other hand...

re: #61 thedopefishlives

See, there are some of us crazy nutjobs that actually LIKE the Midwest. It's a rich culture that I don't think a lot of people appreciate. Mostly because they think we're just plain, ordinary folk who live amidst hundreds of square miles of corn. (Hint: It's not quite all like that.)

so what's not ordinary about Kokomo?

Wright, McChesney and Soros.

A new video of Jeremiah Wright has surfaced, showing Barack Obama's pastor of 20 years praising Marxism and discussing his ties to communists in El Salvador and Nicaragua and the Libyan government. Equally important, Wright is being introduced in the video by Robert W. McChesney, co-founder of Free Press, an organization which has come under scrutiny for its links to the Obama Administration and dedication to the transformation and control of the private media in the U.S.
In an article in the socialist Monthly Review, "Journalism, Democracy, and Class Struggle," McChesney declared, "Our job is to make media reform part of our broader struggle for democracy, social justice, and, dare we say it, socialism."

In the video, which captures Wright's appearance at a September 17, 2009, anniversary celebration of Monthly Review, Wright said that while the "corporate media" provide a "binary lens" of the world, in such terms as "communist versus Christian," Monthly Review offers what it calls "no-nonsense Marxism."

He added: "You dispel all the negative images we have been programmed to conjure up with just the mention of that word socialism or Marxism."

He called America "land of the greed and home of the slave."

***
Hat tip to NJDhockeyfan.

Media reform? Check out BHO's "diversity" czar at the FCC, Mark Lloyd, and his gig at the National Conference for Media Reform at covered by FREE PRESS (see McChesney in No. 65, co-founder of Free Press).

[Link: www.fcc.gov...]

[Link: www.freepress.net...]

[Link: www.lunch.com...]

[Link: www.sourcewatch.org...]

Praise for Chavez

[Link: www.rushlimbaugh.com...]

re: #64 albusteve

so what's not ordinary about Kokomo?

A lot, but you'd have to live there to know most of it.

"You dispel all the negative images we have been programmed to conjure up with just the mention of that word socialism or Marxism."

Sure. Because they've received a bad rap undeservedly.
//

Only in his freakin' fantasy world does this ring true.

re: #67 thedopefishlives

A lot, but you'd have to live there to know most of it.

Kokomo is the home of the first can of tomato juice...I lived in south MI most of my life, I'm a mid-westerner

re: #65 MandyManners

The Monthly Review sixtieth anniversary celebration at the New York Society for Ethical Culture on September 17, 2009, was a great success. A large crowd turned out to hear Grace Lee Boggs, John Bellamy Foster, Robert W. McChesney, Fred Magdoff, Michael Tigar, Toshi Reagon (providing music), and the Reverend Jeremiah Wright, and to celebrate MR’s birthday. We would like to thank all those who participated in this extraordinary event. Dr. Wright captured the tone of the evening, declaring that: “Militarism, capitalism and racism, domestic oppression, foreign military aggression, victims of neo-colonialism, victims of community and national racism, and the Cold War days in its infancy to the needless war in Vietnam in its [MR’s] second decade, through wars of greed in Afghanistan and Iraq in [its] sixth decade” were all incisively covered by the magazine. He spoke of Monthly Review’s indefatigable insistence on the need to put “people before profits,” and its unflinching criticisms of inequality, injustice, and the realities of capitalism. (See Daa’iya L. Sanusi, Amsterdam News, September 24-30, 2009).

Oops.

[Link: www.monthlyreview.org...]

re: #70 MandyManners

I swear, if I hear that line "wars of greed" ONE MORE FREAKIN' TIME...

Read the thing.

[Link: www.aim.org...]

re: #66 MandyManners

Media reform? Check out BHO's "diversity" czar at the FCC, Mark Lloyd, and his gig at the National Conference for Media Reform at covered by FREE PRESS (see McChesney in No. 65, co-founder of Free Press).

[Link: www.fcc.gov...]

[Link: www.freepress.net...]

[Link: www.lunch.com...]

[Link: www.sourcewatch.org...]

Praise for Chavez

[Link: www.rushlimbaugh.com...]

two weeks ago, our liberal friends wrote him off as irrelevant...ho hum

re: #73 MandyManners

Read the thing.

[Link: www.aim.org...]

I couldn't get all the way through it, Mandy. I stopped when I read this line:

He called America "land of the greed and home of the slave."

That offended me deeply. How absolutely... GAH, I don't even have words to describe.

Oh, and for more on what Soros is up to:

[Link: www.newsweek.com...]

Yes, *that* Soros.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Check out Free Press, McChesney, Lloyd and Free Press' Jen Howard, the FCC's spokeswoman.

re: #72 thedopefishlives

I swear, if I hear that line "wars of greed" ONE MORE FREAKIN' TIME...

WARS OF GREED.

/ducks behind a concrete barrier

Oh, and one of Lloyd's co-panelists at the National Conference on Media Reform is a former propagandist for Castro. Dig around at the second link in my No. 66.

re: #78 lazardo

WARS OF GREED.

/ducks behind a concrete barrier

Okay, that's it. I'm heating up the grill, we're gonna have a troll-be-cue. /

re: #70 MandyManners

(See Daa’iya L. Sanusi, Amsterdam News, September 24-30, 2009).

Only in a fantasy world that exists while high, it seems.

re: #76 MandyManners

Oh, and for more on what Soros is up to:

[Link: www.newsweek.com...]

Yes, *that* Soros.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

from Newsweek...
Economics has failed not only to predict and explain what happened but has also failed to protect society," says Robert Johnson, a former managing director at Soros Fund Management, who will direct the new institute. "That's what the crisis revealed. The paradigm has failed. There is no guidance."

what a bunch of Commie blather...totally disregards personal responsibility

Now, I'm checking out to take care of my freakin' sinuses.

re: #82 albusteve

And the invisible hand?

/checking. economics is not my major.

re: #82 albusteve

Personal, what?
/

BTW, Soros has been a guest of BHO twice at the White House.

Good morning! Ocean Threads!

We come on the sloop John B
My grandfather and me
Around Nassau town we did roam
Drinking all night
Got into a fight
Well I feel so broke up
I want to go home

re: #86 MandyManners

Or he showed up unannounced to check progress reports...

re: #88 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Or he showed up unannounced to check progress reports...

President Obama: Mr. Soros! How did you get in here?

Soros: I *walked* in - I can do that, I bought the place, after all!

it's not the bill, it's the victory that consumes the democrats...they simply do not give a shit...here's all you need to know about the insurance scam, even tho it will be debated endlessly here as an intellectual exercise...why even read it imo?

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

Gonna go snack. Brb.

re: #90 albusteve

it's not the bill, it's the victory that consumes the democrats...they simply do not give a shit...here's all you need to know about the insurance scam, even tho it will be debated endlessly here as an intellectual exercise...why even read it imo?

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

Damn. That headline sums it up. And Pelosi's prepared to lose seats... Umm, last I heard, that's not standard procedure. But it's their turn now and nothing is going to stop them. Destiny is on their side.

God bless fools and little children; they'll get a double dose.

Talked to an old schoolmate last night. This guy dropped out of school in 11th grade and graduated college in 3 years. He was an anarchist then and he still is.

re: #92 SteveC

Damn. That headline sums it up. And Pelosi's prepared to lose seats... Umm, last I heard, that's not standard procedure. But it's their turn now and nothing is going to stop them. Destiny is on their side.

God bless fools and little children; they'll get a double dose.

and now the donks are stuffing the bill with all the extra pork...it's a digrace and should be illegal...I hate these guys

More fun Gellar bashing from LoonWatch:

Pamela Geller Watch: Evil Emperor George Soros is Behind LoonWatch

food for thought...

"The great enemy of clear language is insincerity. When there is a gap between one's real and one's declared aims, one turns as it were instinctively to long words and exhausted idioms, like a cuttlefish spurting out ink." George Orwell, "Politics and the English Language," 1946

re: #96 albusteve

food for thought...

"The great enemy of clear language is insincerity. When there is a gap between one's real and one's declared aims, one turns as it were instinctively to long words and exhausted idioms, like a cuttlefish spurting out ink." George Orwell, "Politics and the English Language," 1946

I'll upding anything quoting from that essay anytime. I love it. orwell didn't have a problem with 'long words' per se, but with certain sorts of uses of them: scientific sounding words to dress up unobjective claims, and the like.

Pretentious diction. Words like phenomenon, element, individual (as noun), objective, categorical, effective, virtual, basic, primary, promote, constitute, exhibit, exploit, utilize, eliminate, liquidate, are used to dress up a simple statement and give an air of scientific impartiality to biased judgements. Adjectives like epoch-making, epic, historic, unforgettable, triumphant, age-old, inevitable, inexorable, veritable, are used to dignify the sordid process of international politics, while writing that aims at glorifying war usually takes on an archaic color, its characteristic words being: realm, throne, chariot, mailed fist, trident, sword, shield, buckler, banner, jackboot, clarion.

Here's the whole terrific essay.

Leadership: What are we to make of a White House visitors list that includes 22 swiftly scheduled appointments with a union boss at a time when Gen. Stanley McChrystal can't get face time with the commander in chief?

he list reveals visits from activists, left-wing foundations, the feminist lobby, union bosses and noted anti-capitalists whose ideas would put the U.S. economy into the ground. The list also shows the White House had little exposure to policymakers on the frontlines of some of the most important decisions the president must make.

BOs back room pandering exposed

re: #98 albusteve

[Link: www.investors.com...]

re: #98 albusteve

Leadership: What are we to make of a White House visitors list that includes 22 swiftly scheduled appointments with a union boss at a time when Gen. Stanley McChrystal can't get face time with the commander in chief?

he list reveals visits from activists, left-wing foundations, the feminist lobby, union bosses and noted anti-capitalists whose ideas would put the U.S. economy into the ground. The list also shows the White House had little exposure to policymakers on the frontlines of some of the most important decisions the president must make.

BOs back room pandering exposed

I think the only thing this list shows is that Obama has a lot of people who feel he can effect enough hope and change and they want a piece of the glorious future. The party has made a lot of promises, have a lot of multi-year plans queuing up in the House and Congress, and these people and groups are offering their input.

Oh, and they also heard that Obama received a shipment of razor blades.

"the list reveals visits from activists, left-wing foundations, the feminist lobby, union bosses and noted anti-capitalists whose ideas would put the U.S. economy into the ground."

Bush had plenty of visitors whose "pro capitalist" ideas and actions truly did put the US economy into the ground. Obama is looking for ways out of it.

re: #100 Walter L. Newton

Come on Ice, where's my up ding. Did you miss the Orwell reference in my re: #100 Walter L. Newton

Play again :)

re: #101 ralphieboy

"the list reveals visits from activists, left-wing foundations, the feminist lobby, union bosses and noted anti-capitalists whose ideas would put the U.S. economy into the ground."

Bush had plenty of visitors whose "pro capitalist" ideas and actions truly did put the US economy into the ground. Obama is looking for ways out of it.

Are you saying that some of Obama's visitors are "anti-capitalist?"

re: #102 Walter L. Newton

Come on Ice, where's my up ding. Did you miss the Orwell reference in my re: #100 Walter L. Newton

Play again :)

I did miss it! I also had missed the comment. :) I'm busy elsewhere. But i just gave you a ding here for your trouble.

What's the orwell reference?

Good Morning Lizards!

I need more coffee.

How are you-all?

re: #104 iceweasel

I did miss it! I also had missed the comment. :) I'm busy elsewhere. But i just gave you a ding here for your trouble.

What's the orwell reference?

Sorry, I was ding whoring... "received a shipment of razor blades." Everyone is looking for razor blades in 1984

(Shamless self-promotion - !984 which open at the Ritz Theatre in Tiffin Ohio on Nov. 13th)

re: #105 ggt

Good Morning Lizards!

I need more coffee.

How are you-all?

Just peachy. rereading orwell! Yourself?
Bonus Orwell:

In our time it is broadly true that political writing is bad writing. Where it is not true, it will generally be found that the writer is some kind of rebel, expressing his private opinions and not a "party line." Orthodoxy, of whatever color, seems to demand a lifeless, imitative style.

re: #107 iceweasel

need . more . coffee

I read that Orwell Essay a long time ago. Thanks for reminding me of it.

re: #106 Walter L. Newton

Sorry, I was ding whoring... "received a shipment of razor blades." Everyone is looking for razor blades in 1984

(Shamless self-promotion - !984 which open at the Ritz Theatre in Tiffin Ohio on Nov. 13th)

Oh cool! Congrats! Updinged and quoted to help with your promotion. And your ding whoring! :)

re: #103 Walter L. Newton

Are you saying that some of Obama's visitors are "anti-capitalist?"

Just re-quoting Steve from #98.

And if you subscribe to the Conservative tenet that brands anything that is not completely in favor of unrestricted Free market as "anti-capitalist", then, yes, they are.

re: #107 iceweasel

Orthodoxy, of whatever color, seems to demand a lifeless, imitative style.

Amazing, you picked up on a word that he discribes wonderfully in 1984, "Orthodoxy."

The line from the book, slightly modified from my script states...
"Orthodoxy means not thinking… not needing to think. (Prideful) Orthodoxy is unconsciousness."

I love that description.

re: #111 Walter L. Newton

Amazing, you picked up on a word that he discribes wonderfully in 1984, "Orthodoxy."

The line from the book, slightly modified from my script states...
"Orthodoxy means not thinking… not needing to think. (Prideful) Orthodoxy is unconsciousness."

I love that description.

With or without Orthodoxy, how many people do choose to think?

re: #112 ggt

With or without Orthodoxy, how many people do choose to think?

I think Orwell is making just the opposite observation. Not thinking is conforming to Orthodoxy. Looking at it from that direction, one does not have to argue who's or which Orthodoxy we are talking about, it opens up the whole concept of any Orthodoxy as being suspect and troublesome.

At least that's the way I like to interrupt it.

Why?

re: #111 Walter L. Newton

Amazing, you picked up on a word that he discribes wonderfully in 1984, "Orthodoxy."

The line from the book, slightly modified from my script states...
"Orthodoxy means not thinking… not needing to think. (Prideful) Orthodoxy is unconsciousness."

I love that description.

Oh that IS great. I love the book; read it again last year or so. I should read it again soon. I didn't remember a shortage of razorblades. Is your script online? those reviews are stellar, congrats!

re: #111 Walter L. Newton

Amazing, you picked up on a word that he discribes wonderfully in 1984, "Orthodoxy."

The line from the book, slightly modified from my script states...
"Orthodoxy means not thinking… not needing to think. (Prideful) Orthodoxy is unconsciousness."

I love that description.

My mistake, the line above is directly quoted from the book, I just checked. I thought I had rearranged the order of a few words, to flow better on stage, but I didn't. Sorry.

re: #113 Walter L. Newton

I think Orwell is making just the opposite observation. Not thinking is conforming to Orthodoxy. Looking at it from that direction, one does not have to argue who's or which Orthodoxy we are talking about, it opens up the whole concept of any Orthodoxy as being suspect and troublesome.

At least that's the way I like to interrupt it.

I agree. I was just wondering what would civilization be like if all the non-thinking people didn't have an orthodoxy. At least in a free society--they have a few to choose from (religious or otherwise) , not just one State-sanctioned orthodoxy.

re: #98 albusteve

Leadership: What are we to make of a White House visitors list that includes 22 swiftly scheduled appointments with a union boss at a time when Gen. Stanley McChrystal can't get face time with the commander in chief?

he list reveals visits from activists, left-wing foundations, the feminist lobby, union bosses and noted anti-capitalists whose ideas would put the U.S. economy into the ground. The list also shows the White House had little exposure to policymakers on the frontlines of some of the most important decisions the president must make.

BOs back room pandering exposed

Not exposed, the list is being freely published every 90 days. At least he's sharing the list so we can pick through it. The down side of being open with a list, is everyone will find some on it they can bitch about, but I like the idea.

The BNP is hooking up with some muscle:

A COUNCIL boss has vowed to keep the "racist thugs" of the Scottish Defence League and their "brutal violence" off the streets of the country's biggest city.

Glasgow City Council leader Steven Purcell launched a scathing attack on the army of football hooligans and racist thugs planning a confrontation with Muslims.

Last week, it was revealed a violent mob of English racists and neo-Nazis aim to invade Scotland and march in Glasgow, under the banner of the Scottish Defence League, near the country's biggest Mosque.

Despite portraying themselves as Scots, the right-wingers - including senior BNP activists - will travel to Scotland from Birmingham, London and Carlisle.

I wonder if geller will promote this march...?

re: #118 avanti

Not exposed, the list is being freely published every 90 days. At least he's sharing the list so we can pick through it. The down side of being open with a list, is everyone will find some on it they can bitch about, but I like the idea.

yes by court order

re: #117 ggt

I agree. I was just wondering what would civilization be like if all the non-thinking people didn't have an orthodoxy. At least in a free society--they have a few to choose from (religious or otherwise) , not just one State-sanctioned orthodoxy.

I think the non-thinking orthodoxy connection works in two ways. Orthodox demands the cessation of thought, because it requires that no one question the orthodoxy, but non-thinkers will also always be attracted to orthodoxy inevitably, because they are incapable of thought and need and want to be told what to think. It's much easier that way.

re: #115 iceweasel

Oh that IS great. I love the book; read it again last year or so. I should read it again soon. I didn't remember a shortage of razorblades. Is your script online? those reviews are stellar, congrats!

Not online... The way Lizards get copies of my scripts is to click on my name and go to the main page of my playwright's web site. From there, email me and ask for a copy. Use any email address you feel comfortable with. I have over 100 active Lizards emails and I don't abuse them in any sort of way.

"I NEver Promised You A Rose Garden" is only available for purchase, the other scripts are still in manuscript form and I can send them free of charge. All are in WORD format or PDF, which ever you would like.

Main page is at...

[Link: newton.acrossthebow.com...]

good morning Lizards ... just got back from voting, but it's not a sexy election in my town. just the town council and school board. i voted appx 50/50 for the two parties, although in my town, a republican rarely wins any election.

if there is one lesson the GOP should learn from the Scozzafava fiasco in NY state, it is this. If moderate Republicans are not welcome in the party and are hounded from the race by outside interests, the conservatives should not get pissed off when the "RINO" (I dislike this term, just as I dislike DINO) candidate pays the party back by supporting someone from the other side. If the conservatives in the GOP are so intolerant that there is no room for "in party" diversity, they deserve to lose. They can stay ideologically pure and claim to be the "keepers of the flame," but they won't win too many elections outside of very conservative areas.

"Orthodox" is Greek for "the correct faith", which is all a matter of what one believes, even in the face of facts and logical arguments.

Behind the scenes drama in Washington:

Reid reassures left Lieberman on board

Sen. Joe Lieberman has reached a private understanding with Majority Leader Harry Reid that he will not block a final vote on healthcare reform, according to two sources briefed on the matter.

The unpredictable Democrat-turned-Independent last week publicly stated he would join Republicans in filibustering the Democratic legislation after Reid (D-Nev.) announced he had included a government-run health insurance plan in the bill.

But sources said Reid’s staff is telling liberal interest groups that Lieberman (Conn.) has assured Reid he will vote with Democrats in the necessary procedural vote to end debate, perhaps with intentions to change the bill.

transparency my ass...

Obama is arguing that any release is voluntary, not required by law, despite two federal court rulings to the contrary.

gotta go get an IV of coffee.

Have a great day all!

Kaam says Manhattan beach: [Link: tinyurl.com...]

re: #127 ggt

gotta go get an IV of coffee.

Have a great day all!

IV caffeine, sometimes I wish I could have that.

re: #126 albusteve

transparency my ass...

[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

Obama is arguing that any release is voluntary, not required by law, despite two federal court rulings to the contrary.

Speaking of transparency, you left out the beginning of that sentence:

Like the Bush administration before it, Obama is arguing that any release is voluntary, not required by law, despite two federal court rulings to the contrary.

And the first sentence of the previous paragraph seems relevant as well:

No previous administration has released such a list, though the information out so far is incomplete.

Did you think Bush should have disclosed the list of his visitors?

re: #125 Sharmuta

Behind the scenes drama in Washington:

Reid reassures left Lieberman on board

Lieberman is being pounded over this issue in ther local press here in Connecticut. Last Sunday's paper ran 3 vicious op-ed pieces against him. I think he is right to be a contrarian on this issue, especially because CT is home to many health insurance companies. People here are so blinded by partisan Dem politics that they don't see that Lieberman is actually doing the right thing by trying to limit the damage that the Dems in the Senate and House will do to the local economy by gutting the private insurers. I hope Joe doesn't cave on this. My wife works in the insurance industry and many of our friends also have jobs in that industry.

re: #115 iceweasel

Oh that IS great. I love the book; read it again last year or so. I should read it again soon. I didn't remember a shortage of razorblades. Is your script online? those reviews are stellar, congrats!

What I found most interesting about the reviews, and the audience talk backs that we had after some of the performances is the way people saw the story, depending of course on their political grounding point.

Some people saw it as a slam on Bush, some saw it as a warning to be wary of the left. I made sure to scrub anything Orwell had in his book that would appear to be speaking to current political ideologies.

My "take" on his book was only on a political system that most Americans have never experienced and would never experience in this country.

Nineteen Eight-four is about Totalitarianism, plain and simple. It's not about our modern Republican or Democratic parties, it's about the most sinister political system ever devised.

But, people have to have their orthodoxy, no able to think. It's easier to just look at the other side and say "enemy." Orwell would have probably laughed at anyone seeing his work as being a mirror of any democratic system.

Racial disparity: All active ethics probes focus on black lawmakers

The House ethics committee is currently investigating seven African-American lawmakers — more than 15 percent of the total in the House. And an eighth black member, Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. (D-Ill.), would be under investigation if the Justice Department hadn’t asked the committee to stand down.

Not a single white lawmaker is currently the subject of a full-scale ethics committee probe.

The ethics committee declined to respond to questions about the racial disparity, and members of the Congressional Black Caucus are wary of talking about it on the record. But privately, some black members are outraged — and see in the numbers a worrisome trend in the actions of ethics watchdogs on and off Capitol Hill.

“Is there concern whether someone is trying to set up [Congressional Black Caucus] members? Yeah, there is,” a black House Democrat said. “It looks as if there is somebody out there who understands what the rules [are] and sends names to the ethics committee with the goal of going after the [CBC].”

That's troubling if true. Ethics investigations shouldn't be getting used as a weapon, but if an elected official has been unethical, they should face the consequences. I hope we learn more about this in the future.

re: #130 iceweasel

Did you think Bush should have disclosed the list of his visitors?

Well, had he made a great hulla-ballo about his commitment to openness and transparency at all levels of his administration, and cast rather unflattering comparisons with the alleged secrecy of his predecessor, then yes, I think it'd be decent for him to do that.

your tax dollars at work...NEA brazenly promoting Alinsky

[Link: www.nea.org...]

money quote..."An inspiration to anyone contemplating action in their community! And to every organizer!"

re: #119 Sharmuta

The BNP is hooking up with some muscle:

I wonder if geller will promote this march...?

Mel Gibson will.

/keeps confusing Braveheart with Highlander.

re: #130 iceweasel

Did you think Bush should have disclosed the list of his visitors?

of course, but he is not the issue here...Bush is long gone

re: #132 Walter L. Newton

Gotta ask - the fellow playing O'brien - any insight has he to offer on the most ambiguous and frightening character of 20th century English letters?

re: #132 Walter L. Newton

Excellent points. Totally share your take on Orwell as well. I was just talking to a friend who mentioned how interesting it is that everyone wants to claim Orwell as their own, and most especially pretends to their ideological opponents reflected in what is certainly about totalitarianism.
If you think about it and combine with that essay of his, he would have found it all morbidly hilarious and sadly predictable. *

*by which I violate his own strictures on overused metaphors, I think.
ps thanks for the link, will check it out!

re: #135 albusteve

your tax dollars at work...NEA brazenly promoting Alinsky

[Link: www.nea.org...]

money quote..."An inspiration to anyone contemplating action in their community! And to every organizer!"

From that page...

"Liberals in their meetings utter bold works; they strut, grimace belligerently, and then issue a weasel-worded statement 'which has tremendous implications, if read between the lines.' They sit calmly, dispassionately, studying the issue; judging both sides; they sit and still sit."

Ha, full circle. Orthodoxy!

Good Morning LGF

re: #63 lazardo

At least the hippies actually protested against something. Hipsters on the other hand...

Indeed. (nsfw)

re: #137 albusteve

of course, but he is not the issue here...Bush is long gone

Oh, that's ok then. i thought you were only having a problem with the failure to disclose the list because it's Obama doing it. Glad to see that's not the case.
I agree that it should be released. I thought it was terrible Bush never released his. I'm pleased that Obama has so far at least disclosed some...which means that he's disclosed more than any other administration ever has, by the way.

Obama and 'Special Interests'

For the past nine months, the Obama team has waged a campaign of political convenience against lobbyists.

Its policies against so-called special interests include: a refusal to accept lobbyists' campaign contributions, a ban on employing lobbyists within the administration, discouraging lobbyists' contact with government workers, new rules that will result in the public disclosure of every lobbyist who visits the White House, and a directive to exclude lobbyists from serving on department and federal agency boards and commissions.

All of this is meant to give the impression of purity. But this is illusory. At the same time that the White House has demonized lobbyists, it has allowed itself to be infiltrated by a different army—one made up of campaign contributors. These individuals can breeze past defenses designed to repel lobbyists.

Campaign contributors, especially those who bundled large contributions from others, have been embraced by this administration. Because they aren't formally registered or regulated in the way lobbyists are, they enjoy the benefits and privileges of serving in the heart of the administration. These contributors serve in critical foreign and domestic policy positions, as well as department and agency boards and commissions. Dozens of Obama for America National Finance Committee members have joined the administration. Most of them raised hundreds of thousands of dollars for the campaign, according to the watchdog group the Center for Responsive Politics.

re: #133 Sharmuta

Racial disparity: All active ethics probes focus on black lawmakers

That's troubling if true. Ethics investigations shouldn't be getting used as a weapon, but if an elected official has been unethical, they should face the consequences. I hope we learn more about this in the future.

then by all means, add john murtha to the list of those being investigated.

re: #141 Spare O'Lake

Good Morning LGF

Good morning! I gotta go vote about now - wondering if I should take some work with me and spend the morning away from the computer. I can only walk to the polling place, and it is across from a shopping center.

Hi all!

For fans of sixties music :

re: #23 Hector1980

I got this from [Link:

re: #142 The Sanity Inspector

Indeed. (nsfw)

I just lost whatever shred of faith I had in humanity. Dammit.

/but I did make a reminder to pre-order the book when I got the chance.

re: #143 iceweasel

Oh, that's ok then. i thought you were only having a problem with the failure to disclose the list because it's Obama doing it. Glad to see that's not the case.
I agree that it should be released. I thought it was terrible Bush never released his. I'm pleased that Obama has so far at least disclosed some...which means that he's disclosed more than any other administration ever has, by the way.

04 to 08 Bush was a dismal failure imo...you could see it coming...he scrapped conservative values just like the rest of them

re: #143 iceweasel

I'm pleased that Obama has so far at least disclosed some...which means that he's disclosed more than any other administration ever has, by the way.

Another first for President Obama! All hail the maker and breaker of precedent.

//

re: #138 Guanxi88

Gotta ask - the fellow playing O'brien - any insight has he to offer on the most ambiguous and frightening character of 20th century English letters?

If you are talking about the actor in the pictures on my web site, that is Paul Page, who was a re-occurring character on shows like All My Children, Another World, Search for Tomorrow and One Life to Live.

He lives in Denver now, and works part time as an Equity Actor.

[Link: www.paulpage.biz...]

Paul played it as a total hedonist. There was not one moment that you ever felt that he had any emotion for anyone or anything but himself. And he couldn't understand why anyone would not feel the same way he did. In that one way, he did care for Winston, because he really wanted to cure Winston of his mental illness.

That's how he played it.

"Campaign contributors, especially those who bundled large contributions from others, have been embraced by this administration."

gotta pay for those Gaza phone banks somehow

re: #150 albusteve

04 to 08 Bush was a dismal failure imo...you could see it coming...he scrapped conservative values just like the rest of them

He did well and poorly. There were domestic areas I disagreed with him concerning, but he kept us safe after 9/11 and liberated millions. Not a perfect president, but I think history will be kind to him.

re: #153 albusteve

"Campaign contributors, especially those who bundled large contributions from others, have been embraced by this administration."

gotta pay for those Gaza phone banks somehow

ZING!

re: #151 Guanxi88

Another first for President Obama! All hail the maker and breaker of precedent.

//

And he probably saved or created at least 2/3rds of a job having that info posted on the web site. And at the bargain basement price of only 63,000 of tax payers money.

re: #153 albusteve

"Campaign contributors, especially those who bundled large contributions from others, have been embraced by this administration."

gotta pay for those Gaza phone banks somehow

"Hello, this is 1-800-MY-JIHAD, how can I be of service to your cause today?"

re: #151 Guanxi88

Another first for President Obama! All hail the maker and breaker of precedent.

//

transparency my ass...more does not mean all I guess

re: #153 albusteve

"Campaign contributors, especially those who bundled large contributions from others, have been embraced by this administration."

gotta pay for those Gaza phone banks somehow

Just because he had large pools of volunteers outside the United States, living in an area noted for fundamentalist-inspired political violence and terror in the name of the destruction of the Little Satan of Israel, and the Great Satan of the United States, and not particularly distinguished by robust political disagreements, and just because these same volunteers were phoning around to make sure folk in the states knew how important it was to everybody who genuinely cared about the world and America to vote for Obama instead of Clinton, and just because raw releases of sales of Obama trinkets and shirts suggest bulk-buys from Gaza, I hardly think it's fair to suggest that maybe the Gazans liked Obama.

re: #147 Jimmah

Hi all!

For fans of sixties music :

[Video]

Comrade Jimmah-ski! How was the Politburo meeting, and how is the other side of the underground Soros-funded communal lair?

re: #154 Sharmuta

He did well and poorly. There were domestic areas I disagreed with him concerning, but he kept us safe after 9/11 and liberated millions. Not a perfect president, but I think history will be kind to him.

he should have attacked Social Security and the Fanny Mae, Freddie Mack issues with more vehemence, but he at least tried...as for his legacy, he has alot going for him...generally, I liked him

I'm calling for a bear surge!
Bear kills militants in Kashmir

A bear killed two militants after discovering them in its den in Indian-administered Kashmir, police say.

Two other militants escaped, one of them badly wounded, after the attack in Kulgam district, south of Srinagar.

The militants were armed with AK-46s but were taken by surprise - police found the remains of pudding they had made to eat when the bear attacked.
...

re: #98 albusteve

Leadership: What are we to make of a White House visitors list that includes 22 swiftly scheduled appointments with a union boss at a time when Gen. Stanley McChrystal can't get face time with the commander in chief? (snip)

Relationship between a combatant commander and the CiC is tricky. On
paper, he has direct access. In reality, the pre-war institutional chain of
command still exerts tremendous influence (Service Chiefs, Joint Chiefs,
DA and DoD secretariats). Lord knows what goes on between DC,
Arlington, Tampa, and Kabul.

re: #159 Guanxi88

raw releases of sales of Obama trinkets and shirts suggest bulk-buys from Gaza

Obama trinkets are shirts are mass-produced in China, not Gaza. They are part of the "humanitarian aid transfers" that Israel allows into the Strip.

re: #141 Spare O'Lake

Good morning...(hear about the Chuck Hagel appointment?)

re: #164 Alouette

Obama trinkets are shirts are mass-produced in China, not Gaza. They are part of the "humanitarian aid transfers" that Israel allows into the Strip.

No, they weren't Gazan-made - but Gazans bought them, it would appear, with some enthusiasm.

re: #164 Alouette

Obama trinkets are shirts are mass-produced in China, not Gaza. They are part of the "humanitarian aid transfers" that Israel allows into the Strip.

perhaps should have written "bulk sales to Gaza"...

re: #23 Hector1980

PIMF, Take 2:

I seem to recall the same sort of thing happening to Charles once or twice, some time back. I'll assume a punk'd job, pending further information. That's a pretty juvenile prank, and whatever RS's other faults, he's never struck me as juvenile.

Plus, the sweater is obviously patterned, not sweaty. Whoever is behind LoonWatch is really reaching this morning.

re: #162 bosforus

I'm calling for a bear surge!
Bear kills militants in Kashmir

a bicycle riding bear ate his trainer in Russia a few weeks back too...good for them...except in that case, they killed the bear unfortunately

re: #164 Alouette

Obama trinkets are shirts are mass-produced in China, not Gaza. They are part of the "humanitarian aid transfers" that Israel allows into the Strip.

And as a reminder... with the holidays coming up, don't forget to get your Obama Caganers for your nativity displays...

[Link: www.anglophone-direct.com...]

re: #169 albusteve

a bicycle riding bear ate his trainer in Russia a few weeks back too...good for them...except in that case, they killed the bear unfortunately

THE BEAR REBELLED AGAINST HIS OPPRESSOR FOR THE MOTHERLAND!

/[in soviet russia joke here]

re: #171 laZardo

THE BEAR REBELLED AGAINST HIS OPPRESSOR FOR THE MOTHERLAND!

/[in soviet russia joke here]

In former Soviet Russia - bear trains you!

re: #169 albusteve

a bicycle riding bear ate his trainer in Russia a few weeks back too...good for them...except in that case, they killed the bear unfortunately

I don't understand that concept. We screw with an animal, it defends itself, and so we kill it? If we had left it alone it wouldn't have been a problem in the first place.

re: #170 Walter L. Newton

And as a reminder... with the holidays coming up, don't forget to get your Obama Caganers for your nativity displays...

[Link: www.anglophone-direct.com...]

BLASPHEMY!...I love it

re: #168 The Sanity Inspector

PIMF, Take 2:

I seem to recall the same sort of thing happening to Charles once or twice, some time back. I'll assume a punk'd job, pending further information.

Did it happen here too? i did not know that. Good point though. Unless it's known for sure who registered those domains and redirected them it could be a nasty trick.
In Spencer's case I wouldn't be surprised, though.

re: #170 Walter L. Newton

If you think that's weird you should see our "Barrel Man." :D

If you've ever been exasperated by artists and entertainers who hold themselves forth as political experts, here's a classic smackdown from long ago.

"You made your great mistake when you abandoned the poetry business, and set up shop as a wizard in general practice. You wrote, in your day, some very good verse, and I had the pleasure, along with other literary buzzards, of calling attention to it at the time. But when you fell into the hands of those London logrollers, and began to wander through pink fogs with them, all your native common sense oozed out of you, and you set up a caterwauling for all sorts of brummagem Utopias, at first in the aesthetic region only but later in the regions of political and aesthetic baloney. Thus a competent poet was spoiled to make a tinhorn politician."
-- H. L. Mencken, letter to Ezra Pound, Nov. 28, 1936

re: #173 bosforus

I don't understand that concept. We screw with an animal, it defends itself, and so we kill it? If we had left it alone it wouldn't have been a problem in the first place.

I have a huge problem with that paradigm...when they turn, so be it...making a mockery of great beasts like that is lunacy and I have no sympathy for their victims...zero

re: #160 iceweasel

Comrade Jimmah-ski! How was the Politburo meeting, and how is the other side of the underground Soros-funded communal lair?

It was quite rousing, ice-ski. We decided it was time to move from the T-shirt campaign to direct action on all fronts ;-)

re: #178 albusteve

I have a huge problem with that paradigm...when they turn, so be it...making a mockery of great beasts like that is lunacy and I have no sympathy for their victims...zero

When I see humor clips of "Bullfighting Gone Bad", I sort of become a traitor
to my species.

re: #170 Walter L. Newton

And as a reminder... with the holidays coming up, don't forget to get your Obama Caganers for your nativity displays...

[Link: www.anglophone-direct.com...]

"Now Dasher! now, Dancer! now, Prancer and Vixen!
On, Comet! On, Cupid! on, on Donner and Blitzen!
To the top of the porch! Where Obama is sitzen!
But try not to look, 'cause I think that he's shitzen"

re: #180 Decatur Deb

When I see humor clips of "Bullfighting Gone Bad", I sort of become a traitor
to my species.

Or just an admirer of the sport in all its aspects.

re: #182 Guanxi88

Or just an admirer of the sport in all its aspects.

bullfighting is barbaric

re: #180 Decatur Deb

When I see humor clips of "Bullfighting Gone Bad", I sort of become a traitor
to my species.

I can claim to be one that enjoys the "when (naturally wild, but now captive) animals attack"

re: #178 albusteve

I have a huge problem with that paradigm...when they turn, so be it...making a mockery of great beasts like that is lunacy and I have no sympathy for their victims...zero

Agreed. Though I won't say I have no sympathy for the person, my reaction is more like "what did you expect would happen?" I guess the defense is something like "it's an aggressive animal", which is ludicrous because in all likelihood it's aggressive because of its forced living conditions. A mountain lion coming into town at night and picking off babies is one thing, go ahead and kill it, but geesh, a wild animal is a wild animal (even when domesticated animals, like dogs bite, it's usually the fault of the person involved).

re: #183 albusteve

bullfighting is barbaric

Yes, yes it is. However, one can acknowledge the fact, and register one's disapproval, in a variety of ways. Me? I get a little grin whenever I read that the bull took a few with him.

re: #176 laZardo

If you think that's weird you should see our "Barrel Man." :D

I don't think it's weird at all. It's an old tradition, found in northern Spain, some parts of France and Italy.

I actually got banned from a forum because I posted a link to that and there was no way to make the moderator to understand that it was not meant to be offensive.

A lot of Americans have never been beyond the end of their street. It's really lame how many people have no clue to what is really out there in the rest of the world.

re: #186 Guanxi88

Yes, yes it is. However, one can acknowledge the fact, and register one's disapproval, in a variety of ways. Me? I get a little grin whenever I read that the bull took a few with him.

or those idiots in Pamplona...expressing their machismo

re: #147 Jimmah

Hi all!
For fans of sixties music :
[Video]

Very nice...and I'll raise you a Ronettes

I'll say this about bullfighting, though: In its current form, I have significant problems with it as a sport or cultural practice.

I'm no expert on these things, but I daresay it's a survival of an older, possibly Dionysian rite among the locals. The ritualized sacrifice in the form of single combat with a bull is a powerful symbol.

It's gonna be a long day in NJ.

**VIDEO** Terrified Voter says NJ Dems Using Gangbangers for GOTV

How would you like to be a New Jersey police officer and look out your window and see several known criminals, including a man you arrested several weeks ago and another who had just been released from prison for shooting a cop? And then find out that the men were sent into the neighborhood by the Democratic Party for GOTV operations - complete with lists of voters names, addresses and phones numbers!

That is what happened Sunday on a quiet street in Morris Township. The officer, who’s name we are with holding, specifically heard the men discussing that he was a police officer and that they now know where he lives. The officer confronted the men and they took off. He contacted the local police who responded and caught up with them and about a dozen other men a few blocks away. According to the police report, the men were known criminals and when asked why they were in the neighborhood they stated they were

“campaigning for the Democratic Party.”

Below is an interview with another Morris Township resident who also witnessed the gangbangers going door to door. She contacted a local Democratic Party Official who sent her an email stating

“Thanks for writing. Yes, I heard about this and am very sorry for the incident.”

Shockingly, this isn’t the first time New Jersey Democrats have used gang bangers for GOTV. According to this story on PolitickerNJ, the Bloods Street gang stole $6000 from the NJ Democratic State Committee through a check fraud scheme. NJ Democratic Party Chairman Joseph Cryan said “that checks were copied from payments sent out for the party’s 2006 field operation.”

It’s 9:00 AM and things are just heating up in Jersey.

This is around the corner from my mom's house.

Nov. 3 (Bloomberg) -- The Islamic Hamas movement in the Gaza Strip can now launch rockets capable of reaching the Israeli metropolitan area of Tel Aviv, Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon said at a Jerusalem briefing.

“We know they have tried to, and have obtained missiles that reach 60 kilometers (37 miles),” Ayalon said today. “Tel Aviv and its vicinity are now under the range of Hamas.”

so where did the missiles come from?

[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

re: #188 albusteve

or those idiots in Pamplona...expressing their machismo

Once bumped into a accident investigation for an officer who got stomped.
He was close to blowing "line of duty", but they figured the bull provided
enough non-judicial punishment.

re: #192 albusteve

Nov. 3 (Bloomberg) -- The Islamic Hamas movement in the Gaza Strip can now launch rockets capable of reaching the Israeli metropolitan area of Tel Aviv, Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon said at a Jerusalem briefing.

“We know they have tried to, and have obtained missiles that reach 60 kilometers (37 miles),” Ayalon said today. “Tel Aviv and its vicinity are now under the range of Hamas.”

so where did the missiles come from?

[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

Regime change in Iran can't happen soon enough.

re: #191 njdhockeyfan

Gangbangers with the Democrats, White Supremacists with the Republicans.

Just another day in online gaming. (nsfw)

/i weep for my generation.

re: #165 J.S.

Good morning...(hear about the Chuck Hagel appointment?)

I predict Hagel will have some nasty bus tire marks on his back before too long.

More than 3 Million Registered Voters are Dead, 12 Million More Ineligible, Analysis Finds

(CNSNews.com) – Regardless of how lively an election season might be, a new study shows that more 3.3 million voters on current registration rolls across the country are dead.

Another 12.9 million remain on voter registration lists in an area where they no longer live.

The analysis was conducted by the Aristotle International Inc., a technology company
specializing in political campaigns, developing software and databases for politicians.

In total that means about 8.9 percent of all registered voters fall under the category of “deadwood” voters on the rolls, the term for voters who should no longer be eligible to vote in a precinct.

BBl folks!

All these beach photo...
And no BABES??
Hi everyone!
Very busy with the fall cleanup!!
Leaves,raingutters,parking lots!
Crystal clear skies and cold...till later!

re: #193 Decatur Deb

Once bumped into a accident investigation for an officer who got stomped.
He was close to blowing "line of duty", but they figured the bull provided
enough non-judicial punishment.

I have a photographer friend in Rhode Island...he was in Pamplona for the running...they got close so he ran ahead and jumped up on a wall to cross it and a bunch of laughing teenagers pushed him back off into the street...the whole thing whooshed by and got many terrific pictures

re: #197 njdhockeyfan
Amazing how well the Gov can run things eh?
Think I'll register the dog...He is smart!!

re: #187 Walter L. Newton

A lot of Americans have never been beyond the end of their street. It's really lame how many people have no clue to what is really out there in the rest of the world.

I'd agree with the rest of your comment, but I thought that Americans were highly mobile geographically, in the sense of travelling or moving a lot within America. So Americans will rack up a lot of distance in terms of distances between where they were born and all the places they've lived, much more than the denizens of other countries, it's just that not many travel much outside the US or have a passport. 20% now, I think?

The difference between popular and unpopular.
Katrina=Bush blew it, not FEMA not corrupted Louisiana officials, not the mayor... not the waterless designated shelter that could beer up tens of thousands of people on any weekend... Despite the most complete urban evacuation ever-

H1N1
Far less vaccine than needed, quantities are vastly below expectations despite years of anti bio terror work and at least a full years warning on this flu strain-
Obama gets a pass.

re: #203 rightwingconspirator
...and Gimo detainees are being vac... before our children...
*spit*

re: #202 iceweasel

I'd agree with the rest of your comment, but I thought that Americans were highly mobile geographically, in the sense of travelling or moving a lot within America. So Americans will rack up a lot of distance in terms of distances between where they were born and all the places they've lived, much more than the denizens of other countries, it's just that not many travel much outside the US or have a passport. 20% now, I think?

why would anybody want to go to Fwance?

jus kidding

re: #197 njdhockeyfan

Aristotle? Never heard of them. Vetted? CNS needs some oversight sometimes.

re: #191 njdhockeyfan

It's gonna be a long day in NJ.

**VIDEO** Terrified Voter says NJ Dems Using Gangbangers for GOTV

This is around the corner from my mom's house.

Where would the Dems be without the votes of illegals, felons, and the dearly departed?

re: #201 reloadingisnotahobby

Amazing how well the Gov can run things eh?
Think I'll register the dog...He is smart!!

So the alternative is Mandatory Registration and Regular Checks of Residence, which would a) cost a lot of money and b) be seen as oppressive interference in our private lives.

re: #204 reloadingisnotahobby

Thanks for that reminder! One Up

re: #202 iceweasel

I'd agree with the rest of your comment, but I thought that Americans were highly mobile geographically, in the sense of travelling or moving a lot within America. So Americans will rack up a lot of distance in terms of distances between where they were born and all the places they've lived, much more than the denizens of other countries, it's just that not many travel much outside the US or have a passport. 20% now, I think?

re: #205 albusteve

why would anybody want to go to Fwance?

jus kidding

Apparently the French are the world's worst tourists. Americans may be boisterous but at least they try to "speak foreign" and tip generously.

What a fucking mess...

Man busted for drugs claimed he was Corzine campaign staffer

EAST RUTHERFORD (Nov. 2, 2009, 12:45 p.m.) — A Paramus man who claimed to be the assistant deputy director of Gov. Jon S. Corzine’s re-election campaign was arrested by East Rutherford police Friday, Oct. 30 for possession of Ecstasy.

Jason Shih, 25, was arrested and charged at 11:28 p.m. with possession of Ecstasy, possession of drugs with intent to distribute within 1,000 feet of a school, possession of drugs with the intent to distribute, talking on a cell phone while driving and possession of drugs in a car.

...During the motor vehicle stop, Mehegan said he observed 19 Ecstasy pills in the center console cup and $661 in cash folded up in the ashtray. Police also reported locating several hundred clear plastic bags commonly used to package drugs.

...Shih also reportedly had 10 paychecks from the Middlesex County Democratic Committee in his possession. One paycheck for $1,500 was payable to Shih from the MCDC, according to reports.

“Mr. Shih stated the vehicle he was operating was rented for him by the ‘Corzine for Governor’ camp to distribute tickets and paychecks for the Middlesex County Democratic Committee,” stated Cece.

re: #203 rightwingconspirator

The difference between popular and unpopular.
Katrina=Bush blew it, not FEMA not corrupted Louisiana officials, not the mayor... not the waterless designated shelter that could beer up tens of thousands of people on any weekend... Despite the most complete urban evacuation ever-

H1N1
Far less vaccine than needed, quantities are vastly below expectations despite years of anti bio terror work and at least a full years warning on this flu strain-
Obama gets a pass.

I'm not disagreeing with your premise here, but I think the difference is we SAW the Katrina aftermath on the tee vee. It was horrible. I hope we don't see H1N1 like that. That's what makes it hard to compare the problem.

re: #212 Stanley Sea

I'm not disagreeing with your premise here, but I think the difference is we SAW the Katrina aftermath on the tee vee. It was horrible. I hope we don't see H1N1 like that. That's what makes it hard to compare the problem.

H1N1 will be gone before you know it, taking all the hype with it

re: #118 avanti

Not exposed, the list is being freely published every 90 days. At least he's sharing the list so we can pick through it. The down side of being open with a list, is everyone will find some on it they can bitch about, but I like the idea.

I would so love to see a list of who visited the White House (espically Rove's list of visitors) during the previous administration.
I have a feeling that any list from any administration would have an amazing cast of characters that the opposition would point to and froth.
Of course just because one visits the WH does not mean they actually visited the President OR are they the infamous Bill Ayers...just another dude with the same name.

No dating at this University

MALAYSIA - THE International Islamic University Malaysia (IIUM) has become the first "no dating place" in the country.

A banner has been put up at its Gombak campus to warn the students from dating in the university compound.

The banner reads: "IIUM is an Islamic territory. No dating. Allah is watching us."

re: #202 iceweasel

I'd agree with the rest of your comment, but I thought that Americans were highly mobile geographically, in the sense of travelling or moving a lot within America. So Americans will rack up a lot of distance in terms of distances between where they were born and all the places they've lived, much more than the denizens of other countries, it's just that not many travel much outside the US or have a passport. 20% now, I think?

It was pure hyperbole on my part. It would be the same as me saying they can't see certain things beyond their nose. I have spent a lot of time in Western and Eastern Europe and many times I hate to even come across Americans in my travels.

Gonna head to bed.

For those who might be interested, I posted a link to my portfolio in #13 above that now includes my resume. Cheers.

re: #203 rightwingconspirator

H1N1
Far less vaccine than needed, quantities are vastly below expectations despite years of anti bio terror work and at least a full years warning on this flu strain-
Obama gets a pass.

He gets a pass (is he getting a pass, the FOX kids seem to blaming him) because the strain was not identified until April, the manufacturers over estimated how fast they could grow what needs to be grown to produce the vaccination. The CDC daily updates what they have and then sends it out to your state/local health dept who then pass it out as they see fit.

I'm still wondering which magical power people think the President has to make vaccinations reproduce like rabbits with no help from the companies that actually produce the product?

re: #191 njdhockeyfan

Fancy that. Dirty politics and NJ are perfect together, and the Democrats also engaged in funny business by funding a pro-Daggett robocall. For those who think Daggett is a Democrat stealth candidate to draw votes from Christie, that robocall is all the evidence they need...

If Christie pulls out the win, it's a huge loss for the Obama Administration, which has heavily backed Corzine. If Corzine wins, it's a huge loss for the GOP since if they can't beat a guy who's ratings are in the crapper with a moderate candidate that had full backing from across the GOP spectrum, they've got bigger problems going into 2010. Demographics don't really favor Christie, but strong negative sentiment among all quarters about Corzine's performance have put Christie in a position to send Corzine packing.

More here.

re: #208 ralphieboy

So the alternative is Mandatory Registration and Regular Checks of Residence, which would a) cost a lot of money and b) be seen as oppressive interference in our private lives.

Census zombies!!1!!

The stalkers at 2 are now openly promoting the Oath Keepers.

re: #218 webevintage

He gets a pass (is he getting a pass, the FOX kids seem to blaming him) because the strain was not identified until April, the manufacturers over estimated how fast they could grow what needs to be grown to produce the vaccination. The CDC daily updates what they have and then sends it out to your state/local health dept who then pass it out as they see fit.

I'm still wondering which magical power people think the President has to make vaccinations reproduce like rabbits with no help from the companies that actually produce the product?

then he should keep his nose out of it and quit making these ridiculous promises

re: #212 Stanley Sea

Good point. My post was prompted by early coverage in the media of the shortage. I'm emotionally involved with H1N1 here at home so I'm not claiming good objectivity either.

re: #218 webevintage

I'm wondering to this day how Bush got blamed for a waterless shelter and the best (by%) urban evacuation ever.

Plenty of things to wonder in both circumstances. The magical power you refer to I call the resources and management of the Federal government and the CDC. Oh and Big PHarma.

re: #222 albusteve

then he should keep his nose out of it and quit making these ridiculous promises

Well, the first goes against his desire to be seen doing something, and the second runs counter to his nature and modus operandi.

re: #218 webevintage

Good point on Fox, but I was referring to the media in general, or overall.

re: #221 Sharmuta

Thanks for the update, I got disgusted enough that I quit looking there. Kind of you to read through the muck for us.

re: #196 Spare O'Lake

(one can always hope...) Have you been following the case of Robin Shepherd? (Shepherd has a blog, btw.)

I am disappointed that President Obama is taking a pass on attending the 20th anniversary celebration of the fall of the Berlin Wall:

[Link: www.nypost.com...]

Since our Administration feels this is not worthy of attending, I hope some high profile Republicans reach out to Angela Merkel and ask if they can come and join the celebration.

re: #219 lawhawk

thanks for the info on daggett and the robocall, I'm off to vote in a few and that just pushed me to Christie. I was leaning towards daggett, but in the back of my mind I had a feeling something was amiss. My suspicions confirmed. And just to add, corzine was never even a consideration.

re: #228 _RememberTonyC

I'd love to see Bush 41 there! Really wish Ronnie and Nancy could be there.

re: #230 rightwingconspirator

I'd love to see Bush 41 there! Really wish Ronnie and Nancy could be there.

excellent idea ... he was the POTUS at the time and it would be quite appropriate for him to represent his former boss (RR) and our country.

re: #228 _RememberTonyC

I am disappointed that President Obama is taking a pass on attending the 20th anniversary celebration of the fall of the Berlin Wall:

[Link: www.nypost.com...]

Since our Administration feels this is not worthy of attending, I hope some high profile Republicans reach out to Angela Merkel and ask if they can come and join the celebration.

Obama's already been to Berlin. No need to go again - he saw the sights.

re: #232 Guanxi88

Obama's already been to Berlin. No need to go again - he saw the sights.

yeah ... he saw a photo of himself in front of the Brandenburg Gate ... what else really mattered?

re: #5 sngnsgt

i think that the evening crowd on that esteemed news organ (heh, i said organ) would start taking republicans seriously if they came up with any plans. There's been nothing constructive put forwards as an alternative to Obama's plans on carbon or health.

The evening crew could do better on bringing in moderate and sane republicans - but i reckon part of the problem is that the Sane/Moderates don't want to come out against the Malkin/bachmann crowd... especially after what `happend to noted Communist Linsey Graham after he critiscised their various Deitys

re: #232 Guanxi88

Obama's already been to Berlin. No need to go again - he saw the sights.

Besides, he's too busy to commemorate the fall of communism. He has a Nobel Peace Prize to accept.

re: #228 _RememberTonyC

I got to see part of the Berlin Wall when I was in Rapid City a few weeks ago. They've got a Berlin Wall memorial and it's located right by the convention center there. Very nice and provides a powerful image of how the Communists sought to use the wall to keep people in; it wasn't meant to keep the West out. It was to enslave their own people to keep them from enjoying the benefits of freedoms found in the West.

gotta run ... have a great day, Lizards

More local voices speak out about the process in NY-23.

“Our process in the beginning I think was excellent. We held four public forums…they were each very well attended. We asked those committee to vote on who they would support…and Dede ended up being chosen by the 11 county chairs,” Duprey said.

“Somewhere during this process, the whole local focus just got knocked out of the box. It’s been this media hype. It’s been all these celebrities, and national people, and PACS, and money — from everyone but the people who live in this congressional district —that have just taken over. I’m saying this about everybody – the Republican, Democratic, and Conservative Party candidate,” Duprey said.

“I think the system has been turned upside down,” she said. “My biggest hope for this election is that people who live in this district go to the polls in overwhelming numbers and vote, and show where they stand. To remind people that this is a local race about local issues.”

When asked what Scozzafava’s experience means for moderates in the Republican Party, Duprey said:

“Part of it is that I’m so close to it. It’s hard for me to give a solid analysis — it’s too raw. …I know how difficult this has been on Dede…. In my opinion, we made the right choice. She was an excellent candidate,” Duprey said.

Part of the problem too is that Duprey was intimately involved in the process that put Scozzafava in that position in the first place, so it's in Duprey's interest to claim that the process worked before outside factors intervened. She's not going to admit that the state and local GOP screwed up.

re: #236 lawhawk

I got to see part of the Berlin Wall when I was in Rapid City a few weeks ago. They've got a Berlin Wall memorial and it's located right by the convention center there. Very nice and provides a powerful image of how the Communists sought to use the wall to keep people in; it wasn't meant to keep the West out. It was to enslave their own people to keep them from enjoying the benefits of freedoms found in the West.

One of the best photos ever:

Image: berlinxwall.jpg

re: #203 rightwingconspirator

The difference between popular and unpopular.
Katrina=Bush blew it, not FEMA not corrupted Louisiana officials, not the mayor... not the waterless designated shelter that could beer up tens of thousands of people on any weekend... Despite the most complete urban evacuation ever-

H1N1
Far less vaccine than needed, quantities are vastly below expectations despite years of anti bio terror work and at least a full years warning on this flu strain-
Obama gets a pass.

He gets a pass because he ordered the vaccine in a timely manner, but can't speed up the growth of the virus in eggs.

re: #221 Sharmuta

The stalkers at 2 are now openly promoting the Oath Keepers.

They started that a few weeks ago praising Buchanan's article about the Oath Keepers. I could not be more happy those folks are gone.

re: #240 avanti

(could also add that you can't do a flu vaccine "years in advance." The flu virus mutates, hence, each year a new vaccine is required.)

re: #236 lawhawk

I got to see part of the Berlin Wall when I was in Rapid City a few weeks ago. They've got a Berlin Wall memorial and it's located right by the convention center there. Very nice and provides a powerful image of how the Communists sought to use the wall to keep people in; it wasn't meant to keep the West out. It was to enslave their own people to keep them from enjoying the benefits of freedoms found in the West.

That's what drives me nuts about the crazies like Rev. Wright out there praising Marxism.

I know people get sucked into the theoretical concept of equality for everyone, but as long as there is a single free society in the world, Marxism requires extreme oppression to survive. Or else anyone with any potential will take flight to somewhere they can actually make something of themselves.

Koskidz on the GOP purge: Let The Civil War Begin

They know a good thing when they see it. If the lefties actually get smart they're going to start helping the Tea Party nuts.

Here comes the crazy: What's New? Lacking Evidence, Conservatives Again Stoke Voter Fraud Fears

re: #244 Killgore Trout

Koskidz on the GOP purge: Let The Civil War Begin

They know a good thing when they see it. If the lefties actually get smart they're going to start helping the Tea Party nuts.

This, from the site that would back any and all far lefty talking points and belittel moderate Dems left and right

As you kids say ,,, FEH!

re: #243 Soundboard Fez

That's what drives me nuts about the crazies like Rev. Wright out there praising Marxism.

I know people get sucked into the theoretical concept of equality for everyone, but as long as there is a single free society in the world, Marxism requires extreme oppression to survive. Or else anyone with any potential will take flight to somewhere they can actually make something of themselves.

Then the real problem is that there are a few free societies left on the planet. Get rid of them and Marxism will work like a charm. Problem solved.

re: #245 Killgore Trout

Here comes the crazy: What's New? Lacking Evidence, Conservatives Again Stoke Voter Fraud Fears

As long as people don't have to show an ID at the polls one could reasonably assume there is some measure of fraud