1 | Fenway_Nation Tue, Nov 3, 2009 11:21:41pm |
Hmm...wonder what PMSNBC and CNN are going to focus more on? the outcome of NY-23 or the gubenetorial races in Virgnina and New Jersey.
/It's not like voters in a VERY blue state just elected a Republican or anything...
2 | checked08 Tue, Nov 3, 2009 11:34:43pm |
Republicans won in blue territories, a Democrat won in a red territory, and gays were denied their rights in Maine. Seems to me everyone lost.
3 | Fenway_Nation Tue, Nov 3, 2009 11:35:45pm |
Oh...and one way to make the baseball season seem like it's dragging on forever and ever is have the World Series extend into November.
Another way to agonizingly prolong the baseball season is to have the Yankees in the World Series. Feel the days, weeks and months that you're never getting back slide away while the vapid announcers gush over how 'clutch' players like Nick Swisher, Phil Coke or Joba Chamberlain are...by the time the inning's over, you'll be wondering what year it is and who's birthday you missed or which one of your relatives are still alive...but- surprisingly- only a few minutes have elapsed!
Or better yet- combine the two! You'll have this compacted mass of tedium and suck that's compressed so tightly that not even light can escape.
4 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Nov 3, 2009 11:42:13pm |
re: #3 Fenway_Nation
Only slightly off topic: Did you ever read Hunter Thompson's suggestions on how to improve baseball? Glorious and insane. :D
5 | Capitalist Tool Tue, Nov 3, 2009 11:42:59pm |
re: #3 Fenway_Nation
I've been a Sox fan all of my adult life, but always hated the fact that they're in the American League.
6 | Fenway_Nation Tue, Nov 3, 2009 11:49:16pm |
re: #5 Capitalist Tool
I was profoundly disappointed in them last month...
At the end of September, they were within striking distance of the AL East pennant...then they just seemed to be phoning it it from that final regular-season series against the Yankees to the ALDS.
7 | TheMatrix31 Tue, Nov 3, 2009 11:51:28pm |
8 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Nov 3, 2009 11:53:31pm |
re: #7 TheMatrix31
Dick Cheney, perhaps? Maybe Plaxico Burress
/
I say Cheney. So far Plaxico has demonstrated no ability to shoot anyone except himself. And a 'hunting accident'...very fishy.
/
9 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Nov 3, 2009 11:54:15pm |
re: #7 TheMatrix31
Plaxico is one of the most awesome names in all of sports. See also Coco Crisp. See also Dick Butkus.
10 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Nov 3, 2009 11:55:27pm |
re: #9 WindUpBird
Plaxico is one of the most awesome names in all of sports. See also Coco Crisp. See also Dick Butkus.
It is a good name.
11 | Fenway_Nation Tue, Nov 3, 2009 11:56:35pm |
re: #8 SanFranciscoZionist
Yea- but C'mon! Cheney could've shot a bird or a dog...but he shot a lawyer fer Chrissakes.
/Much better than busting a cap in your own appendage.
12 | Capitalist Tool Tue, Nov 3, 2009 11:58:18pm |
re: #9 WindUpBird
Plaxico is one of the most awesome names in all of sports. See also Coco Crisp. See also Dick Butkus.
NASCAR famous Dick Trickle ring any bells?
13 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Nov 3, 2009 11:59:24pm |
re: #10 SanFranciscoZionist
One of my favorite things lately is watching Monday Night Football with my partner (who is a Real football fan, goes to local college games) and picking out the amazing unintentional euphemisms for intercourse that the commentators make. And then twittering them.
I am also rooting for the currently unstoppable Saints. Because I want New Orleans to kick ass.
14 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Nov 3, 2009 11:59:37pm |
re: #12 Capitalist Tool
It so does! :D :D
15 | Velvet Elvis Wed, Nov 4, 2009 12:03:26am |
Medical Marijuana passed in Maine anyway, and by a large margin.
I think it's interesting that it's not being reported on.
16 | Fenway_Nation Wed, Nov 4, 2009 12:03:55am |
17 | Randall Gross Wed, Nov 4, 2009 12:07:33am |
A musical interlude while I wait on my test call...
18 | freetoken Wed, Nov 4, 2009 12:08:29am |
re: #15 Conservative Moonbat
Medical Marijuana passed in Maine anyway, and by a large margin.
I think it's interesting that it's not being reported on.
Yup, me too.
19 | TheMatrix31 Wed, Nov 4, 2009 12:08:42am |
re: #15 Conservative Moonbat
No one gives a shit about that when two blue states got rocked.
20 | SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Nov 4, 2009 12:09:36am |
Medical pot is one of those things I support because there's no reason not to, and have absolutely no interest in. And honestly, many of its supporters irritate the hell out of me.
Can we just legalize, already, and stop having this stupid repetitive national conversation about it?
21 | freetoken Wed, Nov 4, 2009 12:11:22am |
22 | Fenway_Nation Wed, Nov 4, 2009 12:11:59am |
re: #19 TheMatrix31
I don't think Viginia is as 'blue' as some make it out to be...
23 | Randall Gross Wed, Nov 4, 2009 12:14:27am |
25 | SixDegrees Wed, Nov 4, 2009 12:28:41am |
re: #15 Conservative Moonbat
Medical Marijuana passed in Maine anyway, and by a large margin.
I think it's interesting that it's not being reported on.
There were gay marriage proposals on ballots in two states - Washington and...? Any word on how they fared?
26 | Ayeless in Ghazi Wed, Nov 4, 2009 12:29:04am |
One of the more resonant scenes from "Wild at Heart" :
27 | SixDegrees Wed, Nov 4, 2009 12:39:54am |
re: #25 SixDegrees
Looks like the measure in Maine failed to pass, while the referendum in Washington succeeded, although it was weaker than the Maine bill, being a sort of "everything but marriage" statement that supports civil unions.
Another vote of support for my idea that the contracts granted by states called "marriage licenses" ought to be replaced across the board with civil contracts for all. If you want a marriage, go to your church. If you want the legal recognition and rights granted by the state contract, go get a civil contract. It's what everyone has to do anyway right now, it's just a matter of renaming the state-issued contract to reflect it's true nature.
28 | SixDegrees Wed, Nov 4, 2009 12:41:27am |
Out, probably until much later. We're having a mysterious LGF blackout at work that has lasted for several days, so no posting until I return home unless it's been resolved.
29 | Ayeless in Ghazi Wed, Nov 4, 2009 12:44:37am |
Nas Nedogonyat
30 | BARACK THE VOTE Wed, Nov 4, 2009 12:51:18am |
Let's Pretend We're Bunny Rabbits
31 | Ayeless in Ghazi Wed, Nov 4, 2009 1:02:04am |
re: #30 iceweasel
32 | Ayeless in Ghazi Wed, Nov 4, 2009 1:12:29am |
And now for something completely different - Stuart Lee on the heartbreak of Scotchness :)
33 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Nov 4, 2009 1:18:07am |
Completely off topic, regarding that George Hutchins Constitution Party candidate and his amazing technicolor website, a friend of mine showed me this:
It just brings it all home. I haven't laughed this hard at an image macro for a month.
34 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Nov 4, 2009 1:46:30am |
35 | Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Nov 4, 2009 1:52:58am |
One for the Republicans
[Link: vodpod.com...]
But the two they won were just regular elections, not a power play involving the extreme right.
But Hoffmann already blamed it on ACORN and "the troops".
37 | soxfan4life Wed, Nov 4, 2009 2:32:59am |
re: #20 SanFranciscoZionist
Medical pot is one of those things I support because there's no reason not to, and have absolutely no interest in. And honestly, many of its supporters irritate the hell out of me.
Can we just legalize, already, and stop having this stupid repetitive national conversation about it?
Are you meaning medical marijuana, or marijuana in general? First the government would have to figure out how much to tax it, how to subsidize low income families from it, and how to test drivers for being under the influence. And this administration would have to figure out how to give it to people for free.
38 | SixDegrees Wed, Nov 4, 2009 2:36:34am |
re: #35 ralphieboy
One for the Republicans
[Link: vodpod.com...]
But the two they won were just regular elections, not a power play involving the extreme right.
But Hoffmann already blamed it on ACORN and "the troops".
The TPers set up the race in the 23rd as an iconic battle between themselves and everything they oppose - and they lost. They're trying to salvage victory from other results, but they stepped in it big time in the 23rd, handing that seat to a Democrat for the first time since the Civil War and eliminating GOP participation in the race.
Not quite their Waterloo, but given enough time they'll probably manage to screech themselves out of existence.
39 | Fenway_Nation Wed, Nov 4, 2009 2:40:35am |
Morning, soxfan4life...
Just musing about how 1 year ago today...
I had a job.
40 | TheMatrix31 Wed, Nov 4, 2009 2:46:50am |
re: #39 Fenway_Nation
I cant believe this nightmare is already potentially 25% over.
41 | soxfan4life Wed, Nov 4, 2009 2:47:21am |
re: #39 Fenway_Nation
Morning, soxfan4life...
Just musing about how 1 year ago today...
I had a job.
Hang in there my friend.. it will come. Of course it might be in something completely different. If you're interested in contract work for the Army there is alot here at Fort Hood. Email me if you want some more info, I can give you some names, numbers, etc..
42 | soxfan4life Wed, Nov 4, 2009 2:48:15am |
re: #40 TheMatrix31
I cant believe this nightmare is already potentially 25% over.
Midterms next year could put a huge roadblock in his path.
44 | soxfan4life Wed, Nov 4, 2009 2:53:48am |
re: #43 TheMatrix31
Ahh...if only.
If Republicans take a lesson from McConnell and don't try to make NY-23 into some kind of moral victory they can pick up ground in 2010.
45 | Fenway_Nation Wed, Nov 4, 2009 2:55:17am |
re: #40 TheMatrix31
I cant believe this nightmare is already potentially 25% over.
And I can't belive it's not butter!//
re: #41 soxfan4life
Awesome...a change of scenery might be just what I need. Appreciate that.
I was going to to a blog entry on 'the grim milestone', but I'm not sure how I should go about it. Lord knows there's plenty to choose from, but I'm trying to decide if I should be snarky or sincere.
To be fair, I rattled off a list of things that he likely had a hand in that I wholeheartedly endorse (involves dead jihadis around the Horn of Africa and Hindu Kush)...
Low hanging fruit from there on out, tho'
46 | Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Nov 4, 2009 2:56:42am |
Thing is, the Reps are bound to recover next year, a victory in NY-23 would've supported the untra-right's argument that it was "sticking to principles" that won it for them, rather than the natural political cycle of incumbents losing ground in a weak economy.
Have not looked into the FOx, Rush and RNC spin on their major political gaffe.
47 | SixDegrees Wed, Nov 4, 2009 2:58:14am |
re: #44 soxfan4life
If Republicans take a lesson from McConnell and don't try to make NY-23 into some kind of moral victory they can pick up ground in 2010.
The amount of spinning taking place over at Malkin's could be used to enrich uranium. The turned that race into a circus and made it an icon of their position - and they lost. Now, they're trying on every excuse available to find one that makes this look like a slightly less epic fail, and the search isn't going well.
48 | Fenway_Nation Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:00:59am |
re: #44 soxfan4life
NY-23 is and forever shall be the Highway I take when heading over from Massachusetts to visit the FASNY Fire Museum.
49 | soxfan4life Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:01:28am |
re: #45 Fenway_Nation
At least he signed the stimulus and kept unemployment from reaching near double digits. Oops. Well he stood behind his commitment to more troops in Afghanistan. Nooo.Came home empty handed on his Olympic bid. But he did manage to stand up the MOH recipients and their inaugural ball.
50 | SixDegrees Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:04:52am |
re: #46 ralphieboy
Thing is, the Reps are bound to recover next year, a victory in NY-23 would've supported the untra-right's argument that it was "sticking to principles" that won it for them, rather than the natural political cycle of incumbents losing ground in a weak economy.
Have not looked into the FOx, Rush and RNC spin on their major political gaffe.
Hoffman himself set the tone for what's to come: he's blaming his defeat on ACORN and hinting at election fraud. Apparently, now there's a Vast Left Wing Conspiracy out there. Other pundits, who were proclaiming the race in the 23rd to be the defining moment of the TPers where certain victory would proceed to wash over the entire country are now suddenly silent on the race, preferring to suddenly take interest in a couple of GOP victories that are, frankly, boringly unremarkable. "WOO HOO! We won against the most corrupt, incompetent Democrat EVAH!" isn't much of a rallying cry, but it's all they've got left.
51 | Fenway_Nation Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:07:02am |
52 | soxfan4life Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:09:06am |
re: #51 Fenway_Nation
He knows who the true enemies of the state are. There was also his whole hearted show of support for police officers in general and in Cambridge specifically.
53 | TheMatrix31 Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:10:21am |
re: #50 SixDegrees
Well...there IS ACORN involvement rampant everywhere, so it's a legitimate complaint. Me? I don't give a shit about NY-23, I'm celebrating the ass beatings in VA and NJ.
54 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:11:14am |
re: #51 Fenway_Nation
Don't forget his scathing condemnation of
Iran'smullahsaftertheirmilitiasarbitrarilybeat,shotanddetained protestors in TehranFOX news, the US Chamber of Commerce and the thugs and tyrants at...Edmunds
One of these days, those tactics are gonna' back-fire on BHO on day.
55 | soxfan4life Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:11:26am |
re: #53 TheMatrix31
Well...there IS ACORN involvement rampant everywhere, so it's a legitimate complaint. Me? I don't give a shit about NY-23, I'm celebrating the ass beatings in VA and NJ.
How very butthurt conservative of you.
56 | TheMatrix31 Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:12:09am |
re: #55 soxfan4life
Only butthurt because we keep being fucked in the ass by Obama and Congress.
58 | Fenway_Nation Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:14:44am |
I see the NY-23 race not going away anytime soon just because Hussein Dolt's cheerleaders in the MSM won't have to discuss the GOP winning one of the bluest states there is and a state that's been trending blue for a decade...both 'aided' by multiple campaign appearences by the TOTUS himself.
61 | Spare O'Lake Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:17:55am |
Good Morning LGF.
I trust everyone is ready for the whining lefty spinfest that is certain to follow yesterday's election results.
62 | soxfan4life Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:19:14am |
re: #58 Fenway_Nation
Wonder how the GOP will do in next years regular election in NY-23. That would tell a lot about the district, more than the clusterfuck this special election turned into.
63 | sngnsgt Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:20:17am |
re: #61 Spare O'Lake
Morning, they'll start with, "It's Bushs' fault."
64 | Fenway_Nation Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:21:23am |
re: #61 Spare O'Lake
It has begun...apparently the Governorships of Virginia & NJ are completely unimportant.
/kinda like how being Governor of Texas was a do-nothing job that hardly qualified Bush for POTUS, whereas being governor of much larger and more populous states like Arkansas or Georgia were harder work and made Clinton and Carter better suited for the job...//
65 | SixDegrees Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:23:45am |
re: #53 TheMatrix31
Well...there IS ACORN involvement rampant everywhere, so it's a legitimate complaint. Me? I don't give a shit about NY-23, I'm celebrating the ass beatings in VA and NJ.
I don't understand how it's a complaint, though. There's nothing wrong with promoting political causes. And as far as I'm aware, ACORN has little presence in upstate New York, and there haven't been any allegations of fraud leveled against anyone. What, exactly, is there to complain about?
I don't care for ACORN - see my many previous posts detailing my personal experience with them - but they're not "everywhere," they have no more influence in politics than any other political interest group, and even the allegations of fraud and misconduct are massively exaggerated.
I agree that the focus belonged elsewhere. Malkin, Beck, et all, however, decided to make the 23rd their Ground Zero - and got their asses handed to them.
As I said earlier, NJ is a welcome victory, but it isn't exactly earth shattering. If a damp dishtowel wasn't able to win against an incompetent corruptocrat like Corzine, it would bring shame to damp dishtowels everywhere.
VA is the closest thing to an actual referendum of sorts on Democratic policy, and early exit polling analyses seem to indicate that the continuing under-performing economy is taking it's toll on the party in power. The GOP could best capitolize on this by putting forward concrete economic plans and legislative counterproposals of it's own, to show that they are not only capable of saying "No!" but can also provide positive leadership on the issues. We'll see if they're able to build on that win over the next few weeks and months.
66 | soxfan4life Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:24:29am |
.re: #64 Fenway_Nation
A Dem losing NJ should be huge news. Saddam Hussein could have run as a D in NJ and won.
67 | Spare O'Lake Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:25:18am |
68 | Fenway_Nation Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:27:16am |
re: #66 soxfan4life
Yea- I kinda had Corzine pegged as Joisey version of Mayor Daley.
'Sure he's a corrupt, unethical scumbag, but he's our corrupt unethical scumbag and he's not going anywhere'
69 | King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:27:49am |
4 words- Robert Gibbs press confrence:)
70 | SixDegrees Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:27:49am |
re: #62 soxfan4life
Wonder how the GOP will do in next years regular election in NY-23. That would tell a lot about the district, more than the clusterfuck this special election turned into.
They'll have to actually run a candidate to find out. One selected though the primary process, rather than by appointment.
At the moment, I don't think the party brand has been affected one way or the other; there's nothing blocking a GOP candidate from running and winning that seat. But things will still be at least a bit inflamed over the just-comleted special election.
71 | soxfan4life Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:28:40am |
re: #68 Fenway_Nation
Corrupt, unethical, scumbag is just experience in the cesspool of NJ politics.
72 | Fenway_Nation Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:30:21am |
re: #71 soxfan4life
Wonder if Pauly Walnuts was canvassing for Corzine.
73 | SixDegrees Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:31:04am |
re: #66 soxfan4life
.
A Dem losing NJ should be huge news. Saddam Hussein could have run as a D in NJ and won.
The news over the last few weeks was that Corzine was doing as well as he was. His disastrous handling of the state's business, his massive corruption and his attempt to do everything but explicitly buy votes by throwing truckloads of money at his campaign have all generated very negative feelings among voters - and the press. A win by Corzine would have been bigger news than his loss, frankly; the actual results have been anticipated and telegraphed by the press for some time now.
74 | soxfan4life Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:31:44am |
re: #68 Fenway_Nation
Speaking of special elections, what is happening in the Commonwealth and the replacement for Ted Kennedy? I know they bypassed the law and appointed a replacement, but I thought there still had to be a special election sometime soon.
75 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:32:01am |
re: #69 Cannadian Club Akbar
4 words- Robert Gibbs press confrence:)
Too early to scare the shit ouf of me.
76 | King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:33:23am |
re: #75 MandyManners
Too early to scare the shit ouf of me.
The guy can't talk when he knows what he is saying. This is gonna be a language chop fest.
77 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:34:04am |
Israel seized a container ship filled with weapons bound for Hizb'allah, including Katusha rockets.
78 | soxfan4life Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:34:22am |
re: #76 Cannadian Club Akbar
The guy can't talk when he knows what he is saying. This is gonna be a language chop fest.
I thought GWB was out of the White House.///
79 | BARACK THE VOTE Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:35:17am |
re: #56 TheMatrix31
Only butthurt because we keep being fucked in the ass by Obama and Congress.
Misuse of the word, propagating the false notion it has something to do with sodomy. It does not. FYI.
80 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:35:30am |
re: #76 Cannadian Club Akbar
The guy can't talk when he knows what he is saying. This is gonna be a language chop fest.
Imagine trying to diagram his sentences.
81 | Fenway_Nation Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:37:13am |
re: #73 SixDegrees
If it was such a foregone conclusion, why did the TOTUS himself go up there and campaign for Corzine?
Patterson's a lost cause and the TOTUS pretty much told him to f*ck off.
82 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:38:22am |
re: #81 Fenway_Nation
If it was such a foregone conclusion, why did the TOTUS himself go up there and campaign for Corzine?
Patterson's a lost cause and the TOTUS pretty much told him to f*ck off.
I wonder if BHO sees this as a personal rebuke.
83 | Fenway_Nation Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:39:29am |
re: #74 soxfan4life
I think that's coming up still- I'm seeing campaign ads on NESN, but they all seem to be for Dems- I'm not sure if it's for Kennedy's vacant seat or seats that are going to be contested in 2010 anyways.
84 | soxfan4life Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:40:34am |
re: #83 Fenway_Nation
I think that's coming up still- I'm seeing campaign ads on NESN, but they all seem to be for Dems- I'm not sure if it's for Kennedy's vacant seat or seats that are going to be contested in 2010 anyways.
How's Christy Mihos doing on his run for Governor?
85 | King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:40:47am |
re: #82 MandyManners
I wonder if BHO sees this as a personal rebuke.
If so he'll never say it publicly.
86 | Fenway_Nation Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:41:14am |
re: #82 MandyManners
Addendum-
If Corzine's loss was such a foregone conclusion, why did the TOTUS procrastinate on meeting w/senior level commanders re; Afghanistan to campaign for Corzine?
87 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:42:18am |
re: #85 Cannadian Club Akbar
If so he'll never say it publicly.
I wonder if there will be any hints, be it from him or his people or through policy changes.
88 | Spare O'Lake Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:42:39am |
re: #70 SixDegrees
They'll have to actually run a candidate to find out. One selected though the primary process, rather than by appointment.
At the moment, I don't think the party brand has been affected one way or the other; there's nothing blocking a GOP candidate from running and winning that seat. But things will still be at least a bit inflamed over the just-comleted special election.
The Dem victory should serve as a wake-up call to the GOP - a very clear message to nominate mainstream slightly-right-of-centre candidates, instead of socialistas like Scuzzafava or socons like Hoffman.
89 | soxfan4life Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:43:30am |
re: #86 Fenway_Nation
It provided convenient cover? Why is he going to Wisconsin today to discuss healthcare? As much as he's running from him, McChrystal might very well catch Osama before he gets a commitment from Obama.
90 | Fenway_Nation Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:43:46am |
re: #84 soxfan4life
Honestly- I don't know...
91 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:43:59am |
re: #86 Fenway_Nation
Addendum-
If Corzine's loss was such a foregone conclusion, why did the TOTUS procrastinate on meeting w/senior level commanders re; Afghanistan to campaign for Corzine?
It's easier for him to do the latter since he's in perpetual campaign mode.
92 | SixDegrees Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:46:55am |
re: #81 Fenway_Nation
If it was such a foregone conclusion, why did the TOTUS himself go up there and campaign for Corzine?
Because Corzine was obviously in trouble and needed all the help he could get. And unlike the current leadership in the GOP, 0bama - as de facto leader of the Democratic Party - seems to understand that every Democrat in office is an advantage to the party as a whole, and is willing to spend political capitol to fill as many positions with Democrats as possible.
That Corzine lost will take some of the wind out of 0bama's sails - but not much. He's actually up slightly in approval ratings over the last week or two; I doubt the NJ race will have much impact.
93 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:47:34am |
A reformist website, Mowjcamp, said police opened fire on protesters at Haft-e Tir square, but there was no independent confirmation. "Some people were injured," Mowjcamp reported.
Thousands of Iranian security forces had assembled on the streets of Tehran to prevent any opposition gathering.
SNIP
94 | Fenway_Nation Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:48:03am |
re: #88 Spare O'Lake
Nobody explained to me exactly how a vote for Scozzafava would've been a vote for Cap & Trade, Card Check, 0bamacare, etc.
How would it have benefitted the GOP to run someone who would've rubber-stamped the Dems policy proposals?
95 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:48:45am |
re: #73 SixDegrees
In retrospect, I'll bet Corzine is thinking... "I shouldn't have called the dude fat."
It couldn't have helped.
96 | Fenway_Nation Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:49:20am |
97 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:49:58am |
"The ruling of the European court was received in the Vatican with shock and sadness," said Vatican spokesman Father Federico Lombardi, adding that it was "wrong and myopic" to try to exclude a symbol of charity from education.
The ruling by the court in Strasbourg, which Italy said it would appeal, said crucifixes on school walls -- a common sight that is part of every Italian's life -- could disturb children who were not Christians.
SNIP
98 | BARACK THE VOTE Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:50:47am |
Right on schedule, Hoffman backers are reworking the rhetoric: Losing Ny-23 is winning!
Hours before the polls closed, Hoffman backers were echoing the pundits’ spin–this race would be a referendum on President Obama, and a victory for Hoffman would put the brakes on health care reform by making Democrats worry about challenges to their re-elections in 2010. As a Hoffman victory became more and more remote, the rhetoric changed. The message became the message of two weeks ago. This election wasn’t about showing Republicans that conservatives could win. It was about showing Republicans that they couldn’t win without conservatives.
“People are fed up,” said Saranac Lake activist Russ Finley. “The Tea Party people are serious. The 9/12 people are serious. I’d hate to say that a loss is a good thing, but this is a good thing.”
99 | Fenway_Nation Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:50:58am |
re: #95 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Well...now Corzine can speed off into the sunset/
100 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:51:28am |
IRNA said 100 of the injured had been hospitalized while the rest were minor cases.
SNIP
101 | SixDegrees Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:51:40am |
re: #88 Spare O'Lake
The Dem victory should serve as a wake-up call to the GOP - a very clear message to nominate mainstream slightly-right-of-centre candidates, instead of socialistas like Scuzzafava or socons like Hoffman.
I agree. It remains to be seen whether that will happen, but I can hope.
The religious right - I can't call them socons, because they aren't even remotely Conservative - isn't going to learn from this or shut up, however. They're going to redouble their efforts. Historically, the party out of power makes gains in the midterms, and the rr is going to do everything it can to take credit for any gains and claim momentum so they can push their own candidates onto the ticket.
102 | SixDegrees Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:53:52am |
re: #95 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
In retrospect, I'll bet Corzine is thinking... "I shouldn't have called the dude fat."
It couldn't have helped.
LOL.
103 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:54:16am |
The crack, 20 feet wide in spots, opened in 2005 and some geologists believed then that it would spawn a new ocean. But that view was controversial, and the rift had not been well studied.
A new study involving an international team of scientists and reported in the journal Geophysical Research Letters finds the processes creating the rift are nearly identical to what goes on at the bottom of oceans, further indication a sea is in the region's future.
The same rift activity is slowly parting the Red Sea, too.
SNIP
104 | Fenway_Nation Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:56:30am |
105 | soxfan4life Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:57:00am |
re: #94 Fenway_Nation
Nobody explained to me exactly how a vote for Scozzafava would've been a vote for Cap & Trade, Card Check, 0bamacare, etc.
How would it have benefitted the GOP to run someone who would've rubber-stamped the Dems policy proposals?
Well DeDe's hubby is a union guy, so that pretty much tells you how she would have voted as far as card check and Obamacare. Alot of those union health insurance plans are self funded and they are bleeding so much red ink they need Obamacare or they face going under.
106 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:57:53am |
Body count up to 10 at home of Ohio rapist
Authorities searched the fetid property owned by Anthony Sowell with a backhoe, jackhammers, wall saws, and cadaver dogs. They planned to take the three-story house apart.
Four bodies were found in the back yard, while six others were discovered elsewhere on the property, including in the basement of the house. A skull wrapped in a paper bag in a bucket could be an eleventh victim.
SNIP
107 | Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:58:32am |
re: #97 MandyManners
SNIP
There has been a similar debate going on in Germany, where a Bavarian state law stipulates that each clasroom must display a crucifix.
But for chrissakes (literally) there are enough crucifixes on display in public places all over Europe, especially Italy, children aren't going to be affected either way if they are not present in every single school classroom.
108 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:58:32am |
109 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 3:59:33am |
re: #107 ralphieboy
There has been a similar debate going on in Germany, where a Bavarian state law stipulates that each clasroom must display a crucifix.
But for chrissakes (literally) there are enough crucifixes on display in public places all over Europe, especially Italy, children aren't going to be affected either way if they are not present in every single school classroom.
To me, that's not the point. Why not let Italians and Germans decide what they do in their countries? Fuck the EU.
110 | Fenway_Nation Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:00:01am |
re: #105 soxfan4life
Well DeDe's hubby is a union guy, so that pretty much tells you how she would have voted as far as card check and Obamacare. Alot of those union health insurance plans are self funded and they are bleeding so much red ink they need Obamacare or they face going under.
Thanks...altho' I typo'ed.
Meant to say this:
a vote for Scozzafava would've been a vote for against Cap & Trade, Card Check, 0bamacare, etc.
111 | TheMatrix31 Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:00:42am |
re: #98 iceweasel
Where's the rhetoric about NJ and VA getting rocked?
112 | Fenway_Nation Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:01:54am |
113 | SixDegrees Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:01:58am |
re: #111 TheMatrix31
Where's the rhetoric about NJ and VA getting rocked?
Shh! Stop harshing the buzz, man.
114 | soxfan4life Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:02:23am |
re: #111 TheMatrix31
Those races aren't important. You silly butthurt conservative you.///
115 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:03:11am |
Rhode Island is now the last state in the country to ban prostitution.
Last Wednesday and Thursday the Rhode Island House and Senate voted respectively to close an almost 30-year loophole in the state’s law that banned prostitution outdoors, but allowed it indoors. Rhode Island has long been the only state in the country in which prostitution was legal, along with parts of Nevada.
The bill would make solicitation a misdemeanor offense, regardless of where it occurs. Prostitutes would face a maximum six-month prison sentence for a first offense, while their customers could face up to a year. Landlords who knowingly allow prostitution could face up to five years in prison and $5,000 fines.
SNIP
116 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:04:26am |
Am I the only one who thinks Corzine looks like a moonbat professor of English lit.?
117 | soxfan4life Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:04:52am |
re: #106 MandyManners
He might be right there with Chicago native John Wayne Gacy.
118 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:05:06am |
re: #99 Fenway_Nation
Well...now Corzine can speed off into the sunset/
Maybe this time he'll wear his seat belt.
The jerk.
119 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:05:42am |
re: #117 soxfan4life
He might be right there with Chicago native John Wayne Gacy.
They've not finished searching.
120 | TheMatrix31 Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:06:17am |
re: #116 MandyManners
All those assholes look exactly the same.
121 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:06:28am |
re: #118 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Maybe this time he'll wear his seat belt.
The jerk.
Wasn't a Corzine staffer busted recently for having Ecstasy in a campaign car?
122 | Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:06:43am |
re: #109 MandyManners
To me, that's not the point. Why not let Italians and Germans decide what they do in their countries? Fuck the EU.
The case against school crucifixes in Bavaria was brought by an immigrant as well. And it is the EU Constitution that guarantees, like the US Constitution, the separation of Church and State and ensures religious neutrality.
This never used to be a topic of discussion: italy was almost entirely Catholic, Germany was equally divided between Lutherans and Catholics, but that picture is changing. There are inner-city schools where the majority of the pupils are not Christians.
From where I live I can see a twelve-foot tall crucifix on the hillside out my living room window, there are two even larger ones farther down the hillside, and a Catholic Church 300 yards down the road. There will be no lack of crucifixes or reminders of Europe's Christian heritage if crucifixes are removed from classrooms.
123 | BARACK THE VOTE Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:07:29am |
re: #111 TheMatrix31
Where's the rhetoric about NJ and VA getting rocked?
Lots of people were wondering last night how the tea partiers were going to interpret or spin the NY-23 loss, and what message the GOP would draw from it, including on this thread. Hence posting Weigel's take on it (he was there covering it).
124 | Fenway_Nation Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:07:38am |
125 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:10:21am |
Funny thing happened to me this morning... 5am standing in lobby of hotel in Fredericksburg, VA... guy was getting coffee wondering where the donuts were.
Front desk guy says, "Young Republicans just left a few minutes ago, they were hungry."
Other guy says, "I met a guy in the bar last night who said he was a campaign manager? These were Young Republicans?"
Front desk guys says, "Who do you think campaign managers screw?"
126 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:10:59am |
re: #124 Fenway_Nation
Ahem... we wish him health and happiness.
127 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:12:06am |
re: #125 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Well, maybe it was because it was five A.M., but I thought it was frickin' hysterical!
128 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:12:26am |
Link to a story I mentioned earlier.
Israeli media reports said the weaponry was supplied by Iran.
"There were Katyusha (rockets), whose purpose is to hit civilians," Deputy Defense Minister Matan Vilnai told Army Radio.
He did not give any quantities, saying the ship was still being unloaded in Israel and voicing doubt its crew knew munitions were on aboard.
Asked if the weaponry had been earmarked for Hezbollah, Vilnai said: "Yes. It strengthens (the group) and improves its long-range firing capability into Israel."
SNIP
129 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:12:49am |
re: #126 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Just like our President. I wish him a long and healthy retirement.
130 | TheMatrix31 Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:13:02am |
re: #123 iceweasel
Well, I'm wondering what the spin from the left is after they got their asses handed to them in Virginia and lost a hardcore blue calling card in New Jersey.
131 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:13:54am |
re: #122 ralphieboy
The case against school crucifixes in Bavaria was brought by an immigrant as well. And it is the EU Constitution that guarantees, like the US Constitution, the separation of Church and State and ensures religious neutrality.
This never used to be a topic of discussion: italy was almost entirely Catholic, Germany was equally divided between Lutherans and Catholics, but that picture is changing. There are inner-city schools where the majority of the pupils are not Christians.
From where I live I can see a twelve-foot tall crucifix on the hillside out my living room window, there are two even larger ones farther down the hillside, and a Catholic Church 300 yards down the road. There will be no lack of crucifixes or reminders of Europe's Christian heritage if crucifixes are removed from classrooms.
Again, that's not the point. Giving up national sovereignity is the piont.
132 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:14:37am |
133 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:15:45am |
re: #130 TheMatrix31
Well, I'm wondering what the spin from the left is after they got their asses handed to them in Virginia and lost a hardcore blue calling card in New Jersey.
*crickets*
134 | BARACK THE VOTE Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:18:00am |
re: #130 TheMatrix31
Well, I'm wondering what the spin from the left is after they got their asses handed to them in Virginia and lost a hardcore blue calling card in New Jersey.
It's weird that they'll be ending 2009 by further consolidating a Congressional majority.
But as Six Degrees said here, the Corzine loss was known to be coming. Personally I agree with his estimate of it there.
Thanos has some good links up in spinoffs about it all too (there's one from the hill)
As for the official lefty spin, dunno, haven't had my fax from Leftie HQ yet. :)
135 | Fenway_Nation Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:18:19am |
Well...later, all. I was going to post a blog entry marking the 'grim milestone' of the 1-year anniv. of TOTUs' election. But it's late and I'm getting sleepy- so I'll try and post whem I'm more awake and alert.
But besides 0bamacare, cap & trade, card check, the stimulus, the Gates/Crowley fiasco, dithering on Afghanistan, high unemployment, the war against Fox news, the remaining sycophantic media outlets, skyrocketing commodity prices, a plummeting dollar, nationalizaion of banks, automakers and insurance companies, unelected left-wing hacks being appointed to various 'czar' positions and out of control spending- what do I have to complain about?/
136 | BARACK THE VOTE Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:18:39am |
137 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:19:12am |
The incident came almost exactly a month after an Afghan policeman on patrol with U.S. soldiers opened fire on the Americans, killing two before fleeing.
SNIP
139 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:21:48am |
re: #136 iceweasel
Sorry I didn't type fast enough for you; lots going on today!
That Soros conference call?
/
140 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:22:24am |
Norwood collected 46 percent of the votes with 69 percent of precincts reporting and Reed had 37 percent, according to the Associated Press’s election Web site. Lisa Borders, president of the city council, was third with 14 percent.
Both leaders said they want to restore Atlanta’s police and fire departments, where the previous mayor, Shirley Franklin, eliminated jobs to close a $140 million deficit projected for fiscal 2010. Norwood and Reed also said they want to avoid new taxes after Franklin boosted property rates to add $55 million in the $541 million budget for the year that began July 1.
SNIP
141 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:23:32am |
re: #140 MandyManners
Been a long time since "Whitey's" been mayor of Atlanta.
That's the story on Drudge.
142 | BARACK THE VOTE Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:23:32am |
re: #132 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
re: #130 TheMatrix31
heh. True dat. Same as it ever was.
Have fun today Lizard Nation!
Some appropriate Ella Fitzgerald/Gershwin to start it off with:
The radio and the telephone
And the movies that we know
May just be passing fancies,
And in time may go !
But, oh my dear,
Our love is here to stay.
Our Love is Here to Stay.
143 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:24:14am |
re: #141 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Been a long time since "Whitey's" been mayor of Atlanta.
That's the story on Drudge.
I had no idea about the color involved.
144 | BARACK THE VOTE Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:24:29am |
re: #139 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
That Soros conference call?
/
That's scheduled for later. :)
Bye FBV! Have a great day all--
145 | Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:25:17am |
re: #131 MandyManners
Again, that's not the point. Giving up national sovereignity is the piont.
There are arguments for and against the EU Constitution, just as there were arguments for or against the Confederate States of America.
But the EU Constitution guarantees freedom of travel, residence, trade and basic human rights throughout Europe, and makes another European among its members almost entirely impossible.
And member states can opt out of it any time they want.
146 | Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:26:02am |
"another Eropean war" was missing from that one
147 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:26:29am |
re: #145 ralphieboy
There are arguments for and against the EU Constitution, just as there were arguments for or against the Confederate States of America.
Oh, please. Utter rot.
149 | Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:33:27am |
re: #147 MandyManners
There are arguments for and against the EU Constitution, just as there were arguments for or against the Confederate States of America.
Oh, please. Utter rot.
Granted, poorly phrased. I meant that the US fought a war to determine the extent to which a central authority could impose its rule over member states. The EU is an attempt to resolve that question peacefully.
150 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:34:42am |
re: #143 MandyManners
I had no idea about the color involved.
For decades as white residents fled to the suburbs, Atlanta's black political establishment, led by a string of strong mayors, revived the moribund economy and so revamped the city's image that it earned a national reputation as "Hotlanta."
snip...
151 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:35:15am |
re: #149 ralphieboy
Granted, poorly phrased. I meant that the US fought a war to determine the extent to which a central authority could impose its rule over member states. The EU is an attempt to resolve that question peacefully.
The states were already united before the Civil War. The nations of Europe were never united in modern times.
153 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:35:57am |
re: #150 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I guess I blipped over that part.
154 | Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:38:50am |
re: #151 MandyManners
The states were already united before the Civil War. The nations of Europe were never united in modern times.
No, but the states of Europe are uniting in that they are adopting a common currency, a common Constitution and a common Bill of Rights.
A large step over the Europe of 70 years ago.
155 | shiplord kirel Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:40:04am |
Well, Hoffman proved he's not a RINO, Republican in National Office.
156 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:41:13am |
Mark W. Samoline, 50, of Duluth, was accused of raping a 21-year-old woman in Bloomington, Ind., on Oct. 18, said Capt. Joe Qualters, a spokesman for the Bloomington Police Department. Samoline told detectives the sex was consensual, said Qualters, and has pleaded not guilty to Class B felony rape charges. He turned himself in to Bloomington police Monday and posted bail.
SNIP
UPS put Samoline on leave, Black said, pending an internal investigation. The company
has not yet decided if he will be paid during the leave, Black said.
SNIP
157 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:41:23am |
re: #153 MandyManners
I find it funny, deeper into the story...
Black mayors have occupied City Hall since 1973, but this year, a white City Council member is leading in the polls, even though two black civic leaders urged black voters to unite against her.
Whew! I'm glad that's not racism.
158 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:42:25am |
re: #157 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I find it funny, deeper into the story...
Whew! I'm glad that's not racism.
Siwwy Bastard. It's only racism when white folks discriminate.
159 | Soundboard Fez Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:42:29am |
re: #123 iceweasel
Lots of people were wondering last night how the tea partiers were going to interpret or spin the NY-23 loss, and what message the GOP would draw from it, including on this thread. Hence posting Weigel's take on it (he was there covering it).
There are a lot of lessons to be learned from ceding a 100-year Republican seat over to the D's, especially in this political climate. They should learn that the locals know best, that New York voters are not Mississippi voters, and that you cannot increase your vote totals by driving reasonable people out of your coalition.
But I expect them to put their fingers in their ears and scream "ACORN ACORN ACORN."
160 | Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:45:31am |
re: #106 MandyManners
Body count up to 10 at home of Ohio rapist
Insert Crosby, Stills, Nash, & Young here.
162 | Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:48:54am |
With any luck, Sarah and Glenn will come to TX and weave some of their magic into Rick Perry's re-election campaign.
163 | King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:48:58am |
re: #161 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Huh?
I think he/she was going for "4 dead in Ohio." I might be wrong.
164 | razorbacker Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:49:12am |
re: #160 negativ
What gave me pause was the report that neighbors had written off the foul odor as coming from a near-by sausage factory.
I'd like to know the name of that factory, so that I might be sure to avoid their products in the future.
165 | gregb Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:52:03am |
Lol...quote of the morning. "All politicians should be limited to two terms. One in office, one in prison."
166 | shiplord kirel Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:52:06am |
re: #159 Soundboard Fez
There are a lot of lessons to be learned from ceding a 100-year Republican seat over to the D's, especially in this political climate. They should learn that the locals know best, that New York voters are not Mississippi voters, and that you cannot increase your vote totals by driving reasonable people out of your coalition.
But I expect them to put their fingers in their ears and scream "ACORN ACORN ACORN."
True, the diabolical ACORN conspirators will again be the most popular scapegoats, but the Beckistas will undoubtedly reserve a lot of the blame for dastardly RINO saboteurs as well.
167 | gregb Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:54:50am |
re: #159 Soundboard Fez
There are a lot of lessons to be learned from ceding a 100-year Republican seat over to the D's, especially in this political climate. They should learn that the locals know best, that New York voters are not Mississippi voters, and that you cannot increase your vote totals by driving reasonable people out of your coalition.
But I expect them to put their fingers in their ears and scream "ACORN ACORN ACORN."
We had the same happen here for a seat in Orange County with the Sanchez sisters. Them Dems back east seem to win elections by nominating ex-military folks.
168 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:56:16am |
re: #163 Cannadian Club Akbar
I go for jokes a lot, sometimes inappropriately... That's about Kent State, this is about a murdering rapist... neither are funny. Kent State is one of those things that decades later... still not funny.
This guy'll have John Wayne Gacy jokes about him soon enough. But, right now? Too soon...
169 | The Sanity Inspector Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:56:20am |
Reprocessing of nuclear fuel rods proceeds in North Korea. If you can believe the Norks' twitter feed, that is.
170 | King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:57:17am |
re: #168 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Agreed.
171 | Soundboard Fez Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:57:56am |
re: #166 shiplord kirel
As a rational person, I'm racking my brain to figure out how ACORN could have amassed such power to be basically running a shadow government, and control the outcome of every election that Republicans lose.
And on a budget of $100M too. That's less than half of my employer's, and our headquarters are in a dumpy industrial park. Pretty amazing.
I went to bed early in a pessimistic mood, and was very giddy to awake to the news to Christie beat Corzine, and Hoffman got spanked. Plus the Thrashers won. Gonna be a good day I think.
172 | Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:58:51am |
173 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 4:59:15am |
174 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 5:00:10am |
175 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 5:01:06am |
Man, I got some serious shorts in my sand.
176 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Nov 4, 2009 5:02:05am |
178 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Nov 4, 2009 5:02:48am |
179 | shiplord kirel Wed, Nov 4, 2009 5:06:30am |
re: #171 Soundboard Fez
As a rational person, I'm racking my brain to figure out how ACORN could have amassed such power to be basically running a shadow government, and control the outcome of every election that Republicans lose.
And on a budget of $100M too. That's less than half of my employer's, and our headquarters are in a dumpy industrial park. Pretty amazing.
I went to bed early in a pessimistic mood, and was very giddy to awake to the news to Christie beat Corzine, and Hoffman got spanked. Plus the Thrashers won. Gonna be a good day I think.
It has to be some of that sekrit alien mind control technology they back-engineered from the Roswell UFO. How ACORN managed to deploy this so effectively when even Karl Rove couldn't get it remains a mystery however.
180 | albusteve Wed, Nov 4, 2009 5:14:30am |
the One Page Health Care Reform Proposal is getting a bit of traction...
[Link: www.smallbill.org...]
181 | The Sanity Inspector Wed, Nov 4, 2009 5:16:18am |
182 | TheMatrix31 Wed, Nov 4, 2009 5:21:45am |
re: #180 albusteve
the One Page Health Care Reform Proposal is getting a bit of traction...
[Link: www.smallbill.org...]
That's ALL we fucking need.
183 | Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Nov 4, 2009 5:22:11am |
The Counter-ACORN: American Conservatives obliterating RINOs Nationwide!!!
184 | Spider Mensch Wed, Nov 4, 2009 5:23:18am |
re: #154 ralphieboy
No, but the states of Europe are uniting in that they are adopting a common currency, a common Constitution and a common Bill of Rights.
A large step over the Europe of 70 years ago.
in away I miss old europe..traveling around figuring how many of my french francs eqauled a dollar and how many lira I would end up with when I went from france into italy and changed my francs for Lira...lol...hmmm I have 50 francs which was about 8 usd..but when i get to italy I'll have like over 100,000 Lira! wow enough for a couple of beer peroni's and a plate of spagats and meatballs at mama's in naples...lol..ah the good old days!
185 | TheMatrix31 Wed, Nov 4, 2009 5:25:15am |
This date in 1980 - Ronald Reagan elected President of the United States.
186 | albusteve Wed, Nov 4, 2009 5:27:36am |
In the run-up to the 2010 midterm elections, they don’t want to be forced to vote on climate change, immigration reform and gays in the military, which they say should be set aside so Congress can focus on jobs and the economy.
“It’s hard; the most important issue in front of us is the economy right now, and that’s where most of us really want to stay focused, the economy and jobs, that’s what our constituency is concerned about,” said Sen. Blanche Lincoln (D), who is facing a tough race next year in Arkansas.
[Link: thehill.com...]
do nothing and maybe they can save their necks?...
187 | NJDhockeyfan Wed, Nov 4, 2009 5:28:25am |
re: #184 Spider Mensch
in away I miss old europe..traveling around figuring how many of my french francs eqauled a dollar and how many lira I would end up with when I went from france into italy and changed my francs for Lira...lol...hmmm I have 50 francs which was about 8 usd..but when i get to italy I'll have like over 100,000 Lira! wow enough for a couple of beer peroni's and a plate of spagats and meatballs at mama's in naples...lol..ah the good old days!
It's probably worth billions in Zimbabwean dollars.
188 | NJDhockeyfan Wed, Nov 4, 2009 5:29:08am |
189 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, Nov 4, 2009 5:31:32am |
Morning lizards. Looks like I missed some interesting craziness yesterday.
192 | NJDhockeyfan Wed, Nov 4, 2009 5:37:58am |
re: #190 TheMatrix31
If only I was around, haha.
I served under Ronald Reagan. I miss him tremendously.
193 | NJDhockeyfan Wed, Nov 4, 2009 5:44:16am |
Reid Suggests Health Care Reform May Not Come This Year
Asked if health care reform legislation will pass this year, Senate Majority leader Harry Reid told reporters today that "we're not going to be bound by any timelines."
"We need to do the best job we can for the American people," he said. "We want quality legislation, and we're going to do that."
President Obama had set a deadline of the end of the year to pass health care reform, and advocates fear that further delay could hamper the legislation's chance of passage.
"We're going to do this legislation as expeditiously as we can, but we're going to do it as fairly as we can, also," Reid said. He later added that the Senate Democratic Caucus wants "Democrats to do this the right way, not the fast way."
194 | TheMatrix31 Wed, Nov 4, 2009 5:45:04am |
195 | NJDhockeyfan Wed, Nov 4, 2009 5:49:52am |
Congress Approves $500 Billion For Monument To Human Folly
WASHINGTON—In recognition of mankind's inherent propensity for tragically foolish decisions, Congress allocated nearly $500 billion Monday for the construction of a new national monument honoring human folly.
"From Hannibal's disastrous crossing of the Alps to Custer's humiliating defeat at Little Bighorn, human history has been plagued by senseless mistakes, and it is high time we built a memorial to honor that history," House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) said of the expensive and ill-advised monument. "My deepest hope is that future generations of Americans will one day look upon this pointless edifice and be filled with a sense of awe and wonder at mankind's utter lack of foresight."
"To think of all the ways our time and money could have been better spent," Pelosi continued. "I can imagine no more fitting tribute."
According to the bipartisan plan, the proposed monument will be built precariously over a Washington freeway overpass, and will require as many as 30 years of grueling labor to complete. As a representation of humanity's failure to learn from past mistakes, the project is being designed by the architecture firm of Ganz & Weiss, best known for their work on a series of dangerously constructed St. Louis public housing projects that were condemned in the late 1990s.
"Our goal is to create a structure that, like the human race itself, is doomed from the outset and plagued by innate flaws that can never be corrected," Sen. George Voinovich (R-OH) said of the monument, which he claimed would eventually sink into the federally protected wetlands that surround it. "Not only will it be an aesthetic disaster, but it will also require constant, expensive maintenance just to ensure that the whole foundation doesn't topple suddenly and kill hundreds of innocent people."
...
/satire
196 | SixDegrees Wed, Nov 4, 2009 5:50:27am |
re: #193 NJDhockeyfan
Reid was seen later that afternoon on a bicycle, furiously peddaling backward after leaving the White House woodshed.
197 | Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Nov 4, 2009 5:53:06am |
re: #187 NJDhockeyfan
It's probably worth billions in Zimbabwean dollars.
I do miss the Dutch currency most of all: they had Guilders in bright blue for 10, pink for 25, tan for 100 and yellow for 250.
And strange coins: a tiny little dime that would fall into the cracks between a paving stone and a 2-1/2 Guilder piece the size of a pizza.
But I assure you, it was a pain in the butt having to change (and lose money on the deal) every time you crossed a border.
198 | reloadingisnotahobby Wed, Nov 4, 2009 5:57:38am |
re: #189 thedopefishlives
I make it a point to bring "Crazy" with me where ever I go!
What's in your wallet...kinda thing!
199 | Spider Mensch Wed, Nov 4, 2009 6:02:37am |
re: #197 ralphieboy
I do miss the Dutch currency most of all: they had Guilders in bright blue for 10, pink for 25, tan for 100 and yellow for 250.
And strange coins: a tiny little dime that would fall into the cracks between a paving stone and a 2-1/2 Guilder piece the size of a pizza.
But I assure you, it was a pain in the butt having to change (and lose money on the deal) every time you crossed a border.
I remember the guilder..I still have about 30 guilders..a 25 and a 5 I think. I have a jar full of old currency from my travels abroad, every once in awhile I come across it and spill it out and go through it, it brings back memories...especially the guilders..lol...Amsterdam..red light district...window girls, hash parlors...when I was young , senseless, fearless and not a worry in the world...lol
200 | Joetheplumber Wed, Nov 4, 2009 6:02:55am |
re: #195 NJDhockeyfan
Congress Approves $500 Billion For Monument To Human Folly
/satire
Enjoyed that. You needn't have put the /satire at the end.
201 | reloadingisnotahobby Wed, Nov 4, 2009 6:04:29am |
202 | NJDhockeyfan Wed, Nov 4, 2009 6:09:18am |
re: #196 SixDegrees
Reid was seen later that afternoon on a bicycle, furiously peddaling backward after leaving the White House woodshed.
Nice one Harry.
"It's been a great opportunity to work with the white whore"
203 | Spider Mensch Wed, Nov 4, 2009 6:11:41am |
re: #201 reloadingisnotahobby
re: #199 Spider Mensch
I'm 100% Dutch...
All your Guilders are belong to me!!
LOL
do you get to go back to Netherlands often? I always liked your country. I haven't been there in years, all my trips now are either Austria or Germany because of family. maybe one of the future trips I'll get back over to the Netherlands for a few days.
204 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Wed, Nov 4, 2009 6:14:54am |
Nothing beats getting a root canal to start out your birthday, at least it went pretty quickly...sigh. :(
This is going to be a long day, at 11:30 I have to take dad to the hospital for a PET scan, so we will be there for at least three hours. Oh well, at least I know the day has to get better after that...right?
/knocks on closest available wood.
205 | reine.de.tout Wed, Nov 4, 2009 6:22:16am |
re: #204 ausador
Nothing beats getting a root canal to start out your birthday, at least it went pretty quickly...sigh. :(
This is going to be a long day, at 11:30 I have to take dad to the hospital for a PET scan, so we will be there for at least three hours. Oh well, at least I know the day has to get better after that...right?
/knocks on closest available wood.
{ausador}
I hope your day gets better.
Is today your birthday?
206 | filetandrelease Wed, Nov 4, 2009 6:35:41am |
A great day for the conservative movement yesterday! Even Hoffman almost pulled it off. Woo Hoo!
207 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Wed, Nov 4, 2009 6:35:56am |
Yes, I turned...err...older today. :)
Thank you for the hug, this is not my ideal of how to spend ones birthday so far, but it will get better once I get dad taken care of. I just hope they find something fixable, the endless round of doctors visits and tests is getting old.
208 | Decatur Deb Wed, Nov 4, 2009 6:37:58am |
re: #61 Spare O'Lake
Good Morning LGF.
I trust everyone is ready for the whining lefty spinfest that is certain to follow yesterday's election results.
Here's my lefty spin:
Would like to have seen continued gains in VA, but it was a long shot.
Corzine got what he deserved.
NY23 is a triumph for Truth, Justice and the American Way.
If I can only have one, I got the one I want.
209 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Wed, Nov 4, 2009 6:41:51am |
re: #205 reine.de.tout
My favorite birthday sarc that I always send to relatives and friends on their 'big day.'
Image: PBF032-Todays_My_Birthday.gif
/cruel yet funny.
210 | filetandrelease Wed, Nov 4, 2009 6:42:33am |
Quote of the day "The 1900 page health care bill is now pulp"
211 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, Nov 4, 2009 6:43:29am |
re: #210 filetandrelease
Quote of the day "The 1900 page health care bill is now pulp"
Wouldn't that be nice.
212 | FrogMarch Wed, Nov 4, 2009 6:44:38am |
re: #193 NJDhockeyfan
...So Reid has a chance in hell to get re-elected, Reid is promising Nevada that it can opt-out of this pile of government strangulation and madness.
You know- because 2000 pages of big government garbage is good enough for you, but if Reid needs out to save his bacon... well, you get the idea.
213 | filetandrelease Wed, Nov 4, 2009 6:46:50am |
re: #211 thedopefishlives
Wouldn't that be nice.
You can be sure the blue dogs will running for the hills.
214 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Wed, Nov 4, 2009 6:47:53am |
re: #210 filetandrelease
Quote of the day "The 1900 page health care bill is now pulp"
But, but, that will disappoint the faith healers and magic crystal people who want to get paid by the government for their services. We can't allow that to happen...
//
215 | King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Nov 4, 2009 6:48:08am |
re: #213 filetandrelease
You can be sure the blue dogs will running for the hills.
How many blue dogs do you suppose will have Obama campain for them?
216 | filetandrelease Wed, Nov 4, 2009 6:49:06am |
re: #215 Cannadian Club Akbar
How many blue dogs do you suppose will have Obama campain for them?
Hehe, it worked so well in NJ...
217 | FrogMarch Wed, Nov 4, 2009 6:52:49am |
Yahoo front page news has nothing about elections. Interesting.
Corzine (D), the jackass leftist who bought his way into politics, has just been sent packing by one of the bluest states.
Heh.
218 | Ayeless in Ghazi Wed, Nov 4, 2009 6:53:09am |
re: #142 iceweasel
heh. True dat. Same as it ever was.
Have fun today Lizard Nation!
Some appropriate Ella Fitzgerald/Gershwin to start it off with:
The radio and the telephone
And the movies that we know
May just be passing fancies,
And in time may go !But, oh my dear,
Our love is here to stay.[Video]Our Love is Here to Stay.
Nice :)
219 | Spare O'Lake Wed, Nov 4, 2009 6:53:14am |
re: #208 Decatur Deb
Here's my lefty spin:
NY23 is a triumph for Truth, Justice and the American Way.
That is just super, man.
220 | Bubblehead II Wed, Nov 4, 2009 6:53:47am |
Morning all.
Police set up roadblocks in central Israel following terror alert
Police were blocking roads in the Sharon area in central Israel following warnings that a terror attack might be perpetrated, Wednesday afternoon.
Police officers set up roadblocks and were inspecting vehicles at entries to cities and on main junctions.
Magen David Adom also instructed its paramedics to raise their level of alert to the highest.
The number of ambulances and paramedics at the ready has been consequently doubled.
221 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Wed, Nov 4, 2009 6:53:50am |
Reid is toast come the 2010 election anyway, both the leading Republican candidates are leading him in the polls already. Whichever one wins the primary will should have no problem with him in the general election.
You'd think he would go ahead and fall on his sword by pushing healthcare harder, it isn't like it can hurt him any.
222 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, Nov 4, 2009 6:55:26am |
re: #217 FrogMarch
Yahoo front page news has nothing about elections. Interesting.
Corzine (D), the jackass leftist who bought his way into politics, has just been sent packing by one of the bluest states.Heh.
That is probably one of the best things I've heard in a long, long time. Perhaps there's a semblance of voter awareness returning to this country. I've long said that people who pay attention and are informed on the issues are the keystone of our electoral system.
223 | badger1970 Wed, Nov 4, 2009 6:58:02am |
re: #221 ausador
I don't think Reid is as honorable as Cato when coming to falling on said sword and ripping entrails out.
225 | RogueOne Wed, Nov 4, 2009 6:59:16am |
Mornin all, I have just enough time to say "hey"
226 | lawhawk Wed, Nov 4, 2009 6:59:18am |
re: #208 Decatur Deb
Here's my spin. Obama's coattails are in tatters, and his judgment in supporting Corzine was misguided. There was so much palpable dislike (hatred) in NJ for Corzine that people turning out for the Corzine-Obama rallies were really there for Obama, not Corzine. No amount of money was going to get people to vote for Corzine.
Yet, Obama could have helped across the river in NYC, where Bill Thompson nearly pulled off the biggest upset in recent history. He came close to taking out Bloomberg, who spent nearly $100 million (to less than 10% of that amount spent by Thompson). It came down to GOTV efforts, and had Obama done at least a campaign stop for Thompson, it might have invigorated Thompson's efforts.
It clearly sets Thompson up for a run in 4 years time.
NY-23 will have limited impact nationally; the mess was caused by the State GOP and they have to clean up their act in a serious way if they want to regain the seat in a year. This was a special election, so turnout was lighter than usual. GOTV efforts played a role there as well.
227 | Spare O'Lake Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:01:02am |
re: #223 badger1970
I don't think Reid is as honorable as Cato when coming to falling on said sword and ripping entrails out.
Hairy Reed makes me laugh.
228 | MrSilverDragon Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:02:11am |
Good morning, folks, from a chilly yet bright day in the sprawls of DC.
So now, there was a sweep in the VA elections yesterday. It appears the top spots in the gubernatorial race were swept by the Republican party. I can't much say that I'm surprised by this result. After heavy endorsements for the Democratic side, the GOP just walked right over them.
It's going to be an interesting couple of years here.
229 | Decatur Deb Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:07:59am |
re: #226 lawhawk
Here's my spin. Obama's coattails are in tatters, and his judgment in supporting Corzine was misguided. There was so much palpable dislike (hatred) in NJ for Corzine that people turning out for the Corzine-Obama rallies were really there for Obama, not Corzine. No amount of money was going to get people to vote for Corzine.
Yet, Obama could have helped across the river in NYC, where Bill Thompson nearly pulled off the biggest upset in recent history. He came close to taking out Bloomberg, who spent nearly $100 million (to less than 10% of that amount spent by Thompson). It came down to GOTV efforts, and had Obama done at least a campaign stop for Thompson, it might have invigorated Thompson's efforts.
It clearly sets Thompson up for a run in 4 years time.
NY-23 will have limited impact nationally; the mess was caused by the State GOP and they have to clean up their act in a serious way if they want to regain the seat in a year. This was a special election, so turnout was lighter than usual. GOTV efforts played a role there as well.
We agree in part. I wish Pres. Obama had not wasted mana on NJ.
NY23 was not a local election. It was a proxy war.
Charlie Crist wins in NY23.
230 | soundboard fez Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:09:16am |
re: #228 MrSilverDragon
McDonnell's not my favorite, but it was a huge relief to see that VA has not crossed irrevocably into blue territory.
231 | reine.de.tout Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:09:37am |
heheh.
Text message from my daughter:
"I need $15 for t shits for spanish club"
I think $15 for a t-shit is a little high.
232 | King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:10:14am |
re: #231 reine.de.tout
heheh.
Text message from my daughter:
I think $15 for a t-shit is a little high.
Is it in english?
233 | bosforus Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:10:23am |
Morning, lizards. Has most of the heat died down from last night?
234 | Decatur Deb Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:10:32am |
re: #231 reine.de.tout
heheh.
Text message from my daughter:I think $15 for a t-shit is a little high.
Mierda.
235 | reine.de.tout Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:10:54am |
236 | reine.de.tout Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:11:41am |
re: #233 bosforus
Morning, lizards. Has most of the heat died down from last night?
Mornin', bosforus.
Seems to have settled down.
It usually does. For awhile.
237 | reine.de.tout Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:12:32am |
re: #232 Cannadian Club Akbar
Is it in english?
Oh, you mean is the t-shit in English?
I reckon not.
238 | bosforus Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:14:00am |
re: #236 reine.de.tout
Mornin', bosforus.
Seems to have settled down.
It usually does. For awhile.
Oh goody. And while we're (well, some of you, not me) on the subject of mana and Spanish, I give you Maná Very good song, with fun lyrics... in Spanish.
se me olvido otra vez
239 | King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:14:39am |
re: #237 reine.de.tout
Oh, you mean is the t-shit in English?
I reckon not.
A local high school down here sold millennium Tshirts in 1999. They spelled millennium wrong. My rival school. Heh.
240 | FrogMarch Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:14:59am |
re: #222 thedopefishlives
That is probably one of the best things I've heard in a long, long time. Perhaps there's a semblance of voter awareness returning to this country. I've long said that people who pay attention and are informed on the issues are the keystone of our electoral system.
It also helps to have relatively decent and electable candidates. It seems pushing the economy off the edge with the promise of unfriendly and restrictive government regulations and high job-killing tax rates is not a recipe for success. Enter stage left: the fawning press. Politicians can proudly proclaim they have "created or saved" so many jobs (with government funds), or that they will not add to the deficit (when they already have), or that taxation will not hit the middle class (oh no - just tax those evil job-created rich people) , but if it's a lie, I sincerely hope the electorate will throw the bums out.
241 | J.S. Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:16:09am |
OT
Five British soldiers in Afghanistan were shot dead by a "rogue" Afghan policeman.
242 | Ben Hur Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:16:57am |
What's more telling than NY-23 (apparently the power seat of world sovereignty), VA and NJ, is that liberal Westchester County (home of the Clinton's and other NY elites) went GOP pretty much across the board. Same with Nassau County - and the guy essentially ran unchallenged.
243 | Ben Hur Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:18:38am |
re: #241 J.S.
OT
Five British soldiers in Afghanistan were shot dead by a "rogue" Afghan policeman.
Damn it.
That sh*t happened in Israel the day the second Intifada started.
Joint patrol. The Pali police turned on the Israelis.
May they rest in peace and their blood avenged.
244 | akarra Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:20:01am |
Good morning all. Just searching the comments for interesting links. How is everyone?
245 | Ben Hur Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:20:48am |
Maine Voters Reject Gay Marriage Law
PORTLAND, Maine -- Voters in the northeastern state of Maine repealed a state law that would have allowed same-sex couples to wed, dealing the gay rights movement a heartbreaking defeat in the corner of the country most supportive of gay marriage.Gay marriage has now lost in every single state -- 31 in all -- in which it has been put to a popular vote. Gay-rights activists had hoped to buck that trend in Maine -- known for its moderate, independent-minded electorate -- and mounted an energetic, well-financed campaign.
Wow.
And you thought New England was Scandinavia.
246 | badger1970 Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:20:52am |
re: #243 Ben Hur
We are talking about once-Great Britain. Stern words and a talking down too would be in order.
May G-d bless those fighting to protect the innocent from evil.
247 | akarra Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:21:17am |
re: #225 RogueOne
Mornin all, I have just enough time to say "hey"
*waves*
Hope all is well - hope the busyness isn't terribly stressful.
248 | NJDhockeyfan Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:21:58am |
I know it sounds impossible to quantify jobs saved, but President Obama contends that he can.
But just as incredibly, the Associated Press figured out a way to check that “fact.”
Apparently, giving someone a pay raise is counted as a job saved.
I suppose giving a person a pay raise does mean his job is safe.
Much easier to discredit was the president’s claim that he saved 935 at the Southwest Georgia Community Action Council.
The council employs 508 people.
Heh.
249 | Ben Hur Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:22:23am |
I've had entirely too much coffee this morning.
I'm wigging.
BBIAB before a set my keyboard on fire.
250 | King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:23:19am |
re: #249 Ben Hur
I've had entirely too much coffee this morning.
I'm wigging.
BBIAB before a set my keyboard on fire.
Burn one to offset the coffee.
//
251 | Wozza Matter? Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:23:46am |
re: #88 Spare O'Lake
a "mainstreamer" would still have faced teaparty challenge.
252 | filetandrelease Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:23:59am |
253 | reine.de.tout Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:24:08am |
re: #241 J.S.
OT
Five British soldiers in Afghanistan were shot dead by a "rogue" Afghan policeman.
This British hero was killed during what was to be his final mission before taking leave.
254 | Ben Hur Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:25:16am |
255 | Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:26:00am |
Morning everyone. I guess, being a lizard, I should have watched V last night, but I skipped it. Never saw the original series either. I'm still on season 3 of The 4400. Maybe after that I'll start Galactica or Firefly (or Serenity - I forget which comes first.)
256 | lawhawk Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:26:03am |
Pakistanis take out two Taliban strongholds in Waziristan. Faster. Please.
257 | NJDhockeyfan Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:27:58am |
re: #255 Mad Al-Jaffee
Morning everyone. I guess, being a lizard, I should have watched V last night, but I skipped it. Never saw the original series either. I'm still on season 3 of The 4400. Maybe after that I'll start Galactica or Firefly (or Serenity - I forget which comes first.)
I don't think the WH is going to like 'V'.
Imagine this. At a time of political turmoil, a charismatic, telegenic new leader arrives virtually out of nowhere. He offers a message of hope and reconciliation based on compromise and promises to marshal technology for a better future that will include universal health care.
The news media swoons in admiration -- one simpering anchorman even shouts at a reporter who asks a tough question: "Why don't you show some respect?!" The public is likewise smitten, except for a few nut cases who circulate batty rumors on the Internet about the leader's origins and intentions. The leader, undismayed, offers assurances that are soothing, if also just a tiny bit condescending: "Embracing change is never easy."
So, does that sound like anyone you know? Oh, wait -- did I mention the leader is secretly a totalitarian space lizard who's come here to eat us?
Welcome to ABC's "V," the most fascinating and bound to be the most controversial new show of the fall television season. Nominally a rousing sci-fi space opera about alien invaders bent on the conquest (and digestion) of all humanity, it's also a barbed commentary on Obamamania that will infuriate the president's supporters and delight his detractors.
258 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:28:23am |
259 | King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:29:01am |
260 | NJDhockeyfan Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:29:09am |
262 | sattv4u2 Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:29:36am |
263 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:30:02am |
264 | Decatur Deb Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:30:19am |
re: #255 Mad Al-Jaffee
Morning everyone. I guess, being a lizard, I should have watched V last night, but I skipped it. Never saw the original series either. I'm still on season 3 of The 4400. Maybe after that I'll start Galactica or Firefly (or Serenity - I forget which comes first.)
It was well done, if you like CGG. The new lizard queen really projects
the same vibe as her predecessor.
265 | badger1970 Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:30:24am |
re: #248 NJDhockeyfan
He made a mistake. That was ACRON reporting 935 registered voters out of 508 eligible.
266 | King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:30:29am |
re: #261 MandyManners
I thought Hollywood loved BHO.
I am sure that was in preproduction before Obama had won.
267 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:31:11am |
re: #262 sattv4u2
Multi Tasking , he could be both!
What was is Sharmuta said yesterday about polticians talking and lying at the same time?
268 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:31:21am |
Jeez, it is a sci-fi tv show, why does everything have to somehow be about Obama? Please don't feed the egomaniac...
269 | lawhawk Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:31:43am |
re: #255 Mad Al-Jaffee
I skipped V as well, and have fond memories of watching the original miniseries (which had a Holocaust meme running throughout). However, the V leader is a hottie - though her appearance on Stargate SG-1 as the Ori leader Adria shows off her power that much better. I guess I like the longer hair.
270 | gegenkritik Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:31:59am |
Charles, why linking to PajamasMedia is blocked? It was you who founded this?
271 | Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:32:15am |
re: #257 NJDhockeyfan
Maybe now I will watch it. I guess the pilot will be on Hulu soon.
272 | lawhawk Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:32:38am |
re: #270 gegenkritik
They've changed over time and Charles no longer has any connections to pjmedia. He's completely disassociated himself from that project.
273 | Sharmuta Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:32:45am |
re: #270 gegenkritik
They're running Robert Stacy McCain and other rabid kooks.
274 | King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:32:53am |
re: #271 Mad Al-Jaffee
Maybe now I will watch it. I guess the pilot will be on Hulu soon.
I think after 8 days.
275 | gegenkritik Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:33:20am |
re: #273 Sharmuta
Has Charles no more control over this?
276 | NJDhockeyfan Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:33:31am |
re: #271 Mad Al-Jaffee
Maybe now I will watch it. I guess the pilot will be on Hulu soon.
I recorded it on my DVR. Gonna watch it tomorrow night unless Philly wins tonight.
277 | gegenkritik Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:33:46am |
re: #272 lawhawk
Ok thanks, just read this.
278 | Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:34:12am |
re: #269 lawhawk
I don't know why I didn't watch the original one. I was in my early teens then, and into sci fi. Probably my older brother didn't want to watch it and we only had one tv.
279 | Sharmuta Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:34:24am |
re: #236 reine.de.tout
Mornin', bosforus.
Seems to have settled down.
It usually does. For awhile.
Is it okay if I call you "reine" instead of reine.de.tout? It's a lot less typing, but I don't want to violate terms of service either.
[eye roll]
280 | gegenkritik Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:34:51am |
Really sad, since there are decent persons like John Rosenthal writing regulary. Who's in control of PM now?
281 | subsailor68 Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:36:23am |
Mornin' all! I just think Thomas Sowell should be considered a national treasure!
I mean, you've got to love a guy who starts a column on the cost - and to an extent the consequences of - the proposed health "reform" legislation this way:
Although it is cheaper to buy a pint of milk than to buy a quart of milk, nobody considers that to be lowering the price of milk.
Thank you Dr. Sowell!
282 | wrenchwench Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:37:41am |
re: #239 Cannadian Club Akbar
A local high school down here sold millennium Tshirts in 1999. They spelled millennium wrong. My rival school. Heh.
The local university here put out some self-promotional window clings, but spelled it "Unversity." They didn't notice until after they distributed them.
285 | Bubblehead II Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:41:10am |
Here is an interesting read from Der Speigel.
How Israel Destroyed Syria's Al Kibar Nuclear Reactor
It is 7 pages long.
286 | King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:42:05am |
re: #282 wrenchwench
The local university here put out some self-promotional window clings, but spelled it "Unversity." They didn't notice until after they distributed them.
You wood think they could proophreed.
/
287 | NJDhockeyfan Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:42:43am |
(CNSNews.com) – The House health-care reform plan unveiled last week by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) would do more than regulate insurance companies – it would even regulate vending machines.
The bill, which is posted online, would require that vending machine operators either create new machines that allow the customer to view nutrition facts or post nutritional information for each product near “each article of food or the selection button.”
The regulation could wind up costing vendors millions of dollars to make the changes, according to industry estimates.
...NAMA estimated that the first year start-up cost to comply with the basic disclosure would be $56.4 million.
288 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:42:58am |
re: #1 Fenway_Nation
Hmm...wonder what PMSNBC and CNN are going to focus more on? the outcome of NY-23 or the gubenetorial races in Virgnina and New Jersey.
/It's not like voters in a VERY blue state just elected a Republican or anything...
And what was your first clue? Look around. What's on the internets?
290 | Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:43:23am |
re: #285 Bubblehead II
I'm reading a book about the Six Day War (Six Days of War, by Michael Oren) and I'm amazed by the IDF's and IAF's planning, training, strategy and tactics. Their destruction of the Egyptian Air Force was breathtaking to read about.
292 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:46:32am |
293 | The Sanity Inspector Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:46:33am |
re: #290 Mad Al-Jaffee
I'm reading a book about the Six Day War (Six Days of War, by Michael Oren) and I'm amazed by the IDF's and IAF's planning, training, strategy and tactics. Their destruction of the Egyptian Air Force was breathtaking to read about.
When one defeat will result in national extermination, it tends to focus your efforts.
294 | The Sanity Inspector Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:47:42am |
re: #287 NJDhockeyfan
I foresee an underground economy of bootleg Cool Ranch Doritos (TM) before this is over.
295 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:47:54am |
re: #290 Mad Al-Jaffee
I'm reading a book about the Six Day War (Six Days of War, by Michael Oren) and I'm amazed by the IDF's and IAF's planning, training, strategy and tactics. Their destruction of the Egyptian Air Force was breathtaking to read about.
The way they blew them away with the pilots in the planes?
296 | sattv4u2 Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:48:49am |
re: #287 NJDhockeyfan
...NAMA estimated that the first year start-up cost to comply with the basic disclosure would be $56.4 million
"Dad, can I have a dollar so I can buy a bag of chips out of that machine?"
"well Timmy, you better look again. Thanks to our new Free Health Care you're going to need a twenty"
297 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:48:55am |
re: #294 The Sanity Inspector
I foresee an underground economy of bootleg Cool Ranch Doritos (TM) before this is over.
I'm hording Cheetos. Should be worth a small fortune soon.
298 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:49:59am |
re: #290 Mad Al-Jaffee
I'm reading a book about the Six Day War (Six Days of War, by Michael Oren) and I'm amazed by the IDF's and IAF's planning, training, strategy and tactics. Their destruction of the Egyptian Air Force was breathtaking to read about.
Oren's Power, Faith and Fantasy is good, too.
299 | badger1970 Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:50:04am |
re: #297 MandyManners
You may need baby-wipes to clean the evidence from your fingers and keyboard /
300 | Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:50:34am |
re: #295 MandyManners
The way they blew them away with the pilots in the planes?
The way they planned for the attack, their intelligence (they knew the name and rank of every Egyptian pilot), and the way they flew in low to avoid detection and attacked.
The incompetence and lack of planning by Egypt had a lot to do with it - they had all of their aircraft sitting in the open, unprotected, and the radar that did detect the incoming planes didn't have the proper communications with the Egyptian AF.
301 | Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:52:10am |
Okay, stupid question time - what is Retweet? (and no speech impdediment jokes please)
302 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:53:12am |
re: #301 Mad Al-Jaffee
Okay, stupid question time - what is Retweet? (and no speech impdediment jokes please)
What reid is doing with the healthcare bill?
303 | Killgore Trout Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:53:46am |
re: #301 Mad Al-Jaffee
It's a repost of what someone else said.
304 | FrogMarch Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:54:17am |
re: #287 NJDhockeyfan
Isn't there a market for healthy snacks?
Kids certainly should be encouraged to eat healthy. When I was a kid, my mom was a nut case with the healthy eating. The problem isn't the vending machines - it's lazy parents. (IMO)
Why spend $56 million dollars on something that the market and parents should take care of? Geeez - congress is obsessed with spending our money - because it feels good. Times are tight, Nancy. Get a grip.
305 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:54:34am |
re: #299 badger1970
You may need baby-wipes to clean the evidence from your fingers and keyboard /
Hey, man, I don't use the product. I just *snifff* deal it.
306 | Wozza Matter? Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:54:35am |
Newsweek.com - last poll before election independents were jumping the hoffman ship his lead with them turned into a deficit 43-37 and going away all the time.
I take it that would have been after the press interviews and armey intervention...
307 | reine.de.tout Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:54:38am |
re: #301 Mad Al-Jaffee
Okay, stupid question time - what is Retweet? (and no speech impdediment jokes please)
It's where one person on twitter "forwards" a tweet posted by somebody else. Everyone has a different grouping of people they follow or that follows them - it's a way of getting word passed around.
308 | King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:54:45am |
re: #303 Killgore Trout
It's a repost of what someone else said.
It's a repost of what someone else said.
//sorry
309 | Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:54:49am |
re: #303 Killgore Trout
It's a repost of what someone else said.
On Twitter? I've never used Twitter and have barely read anything on it.
310 | Soundboard Fez Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:55:57am |
re: #292 MandyManners
At what cost per deferred purchase?
Because I can imagine there's like maybe 3 people who don't understand that vending machines sell crap. And 2 of those are maybe even intelligent enough to read the nutritional info on the package after it comes out.
311 | Ben Hur Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:56:15am |
Old line: Do you .com here often?
New line: Nice tweets.
312 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:56:18am |
re: #300 Mad Al-Jaffee
The way they planned for the attack, their intelligence (they knew the name and rank of every Egyptian pilot), and the way they flew in low to avoid detection and attacked.
The incompetence and lack of planning by Egypt had a lot to do with it - they had all of their aircraft sitting in the open, unprotected, and the radar that did detect the incoming planes didn't have the proper communications with the Egyptian AF.
Didn't the IAF go in under radar and then pop up so that the pilots would scramble to their planes? (It's been a while since I took the Arab-Israeli Conflict in college.)
313 | reine.de.tout Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:56:22am |
re: #309 Mad Al-Jaffee
On Twitter? I've never used Twitter and have barely read anything on it.
I find twitter has limited usefulness for most of us.
But in situations where it's useful, it's very very good at getting word out.
314 | NJDhockeyfan Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:57:32am |
Obama campaigned for Corzine and Deeds...they both lost.
Obama didn't campaign for Owens...he won.
Obama has lost his bottle of magic pixie dust.
315 | Wozza Matter? Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:57:46am |
laters all. have to go buy lil sis a birthday present
316 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:57:46am |
re: #304 FrogMarch
Isn't there a market for healthy snacks?
Kids certainly should be encouraged to eat healthy. When I was a kid, my mom was a nut case with the healthy eating. The problem isn't the vending machines - it's lazy parents. (IMO)
Why spend $56 million dollars on something that the market and parents should take care of? Geeez - congress is obsessed with spending our money - because it feels good. Times are tight, Nancy. Get a grip.
It's just one more example of the Liberals thinking they know better than the people, thinking that GOVERNMENT is the solution to every problem.
317 | NJDhockeyfan Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:58:00am |
re: #313 reine.de.tout
I find twitter has limited usefulness for most of us.
But in situations where it's useful, it's very very good at getting word out.
Like Iran.
318 | Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:58:14am |
re: #312 MandyManners
Didn't the IAF go in under radar and then pop up so that the pilots would scramble to their planes? (It's been a while since I took the Arab-Israeli Conflict in college.)
Something like that, but more compex. Don't have time to re-read that part right now.
319 | Killgore Trout Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:58:31am |
re: #304 FrogMarch
It's probably a bogus story. We've seen enough of this crap to know that people are just making up stuff. What's telling is that critics are focusing on some vending machine provision. I assume that means they are having trouble finding serious flaws with the bill.
320 | Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:59:04am |
re: #313 reine.de.tout
I find twitter has limited usefulness for most of us.
But in situations where it's useful, it's very very good at getting word out.
I've read some of the "Shit My Dad Says" tweets. Pretty funny stuff.
321 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:59:09am |
re: #310 Soundboard Fez
At what cost per deferred purchase?
Because I can imagine there's like maybe 3 people who don't understand that vending machines sell crap. And 2 of those are maybe even intelligent enough to read the nutritional info on the package after it comes out.
But, Nanny State Nancy wants to spend all that money to save that one person from himself.
322 | Killgore Trout Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:59:32am |
re: #313 reine.de.tout
I find twitter has limited usefulness for most of us.
But in situations where it's useful, it's very very good at getting word out.
I used it a little bit yesterday to find election news. It's actually pretty good at tracking breaking stories.
323 | reine.de.tout Wed, Nov 4, 2009 7:59:36am |
re: #320 Mad Al-Jaffee
I've read some of the "Shit My Dad Says" tweets. Pretty funny stuff.
LOL!
Yes it is, that's one of the 22 that I "follow".
325 | Wozza Matter? Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:00:21am |
re: #314 NJDhockeyfan
Corzine - books will be written about how he managed to throw away New Joisy
Deeds - bad candidate against a strongly "religious republican" who had an energised base. Deeds didn't have a story for voters to latch onto and had nothing for the Obama dust to sprinkle onto.
326 | NJDhockeyfan Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:00:26am |
Speaking of Iran, Planet Iran has been following the latest chaos in Iran.
327 | Sharmuta Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:00:33am |
re: #313 reine.de.tout
I find twitter has limited usefulness for most of us.
But in situations where it's useful, it's very very good at getting word out.
I agree. I don't think Twitter is cut out for me, even though I joined, so there is no point in me retweeting things- they will go to no one. But for those with followings, who Twitter is more geared for, will have the ability to spread really good articles from LGF on to others who may again retweet it and spread the news very quickly. I think it will catch on for LGF with a little time.
328 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:00:47am |
re: #318 Mad Al-Jaffee
Something like that, but more compex. Don't have time to re-read that part right now.
Very efficient to get not just the planes which could be replaced but, also the pilots who take a long time to train.
329 | Ben Hur Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:00:51am |
re: #320 Mad Al-Jaffee
I've read some of the "Shit My Dad Says" tweets. Pretty funny stuff.
I check that daily.
330 | Sharmuta Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:00:56am |
re: #320 Mad Al-Jaffee
I've read some of the "Shit My Dad Says" tweets. Pretty funny stuff.
I joined for shitmydadsays.
331 | Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:01:25am |
re: #312 MandyManners
[Link: www.chabad.org...]
332 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:01:52am |
re: #319 Killgore Trout
It's probably a bogus story. We've seen enough of this crap to know that people are just making up stuff. What's telling is that critics are focusing on some vending machine provision. I assume that means they are having trouble finding serious flaws with the bill.
If true, that proposal *is* a serious flaw. It illustrates the delusion that we need the government to tell us how to live our lives down to that detail.
333 | Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:02:45am |
re: #328 MandyManners
Very efficient to get not just the planes which could be replaced but, also the pilots who take a long time to train.
And the runways. The runways were some of their primary targets.
334 | FrogMarch Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:03:25am |
re: #316 MandyManners
It's just one more example of the Liberals thinking they know better than the people, thinking that GOVERNMENT is the solution to every problem.
Indeed.
Maybe if we give congress a years furlough, we might be able to climb out of debt. No more ideas- thanks. Too Expensive.
Good parenting is free.
335 | cliffster Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:04:04am |
re: #329 Ben Hur
I check that daily.
RT @shitmydadsays Nobody is that important. They eat, shit, and screw, just like you. Maybe not shit like you, you got those stomach problems
336 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:04:21am |
re: #331 Mad Al-Jaffee
[Link: www.chabad.org...]
As I said, it's been a long time since I studied that topic. I could've sworn, though, that many Egyptian pilots were in their planes.
337 | Soundboard Fez Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:04:37am |
re: #322 Killgore Trout
We can start a collection here to pay for his bypass, and maybe she will agree to drop it from the bill.
338 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:04:46am |
re: #333 Mad Al-Jaffee
And the runways. The runways were some of their primary targets.
Massive potholes.
339 | Decatur Deb Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:04:53am |
340 | Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:05:14am |
re: #336 MandyManners
As I said, it's been a long time since I studied that topic. I could've sworn, though, that many Egyptian pilots were in their planes.
Most who made it to their planes were shot down. Go Isreal!
341 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:05:30am |
re: #334 FrogMarch
Indeed.
Maybe if we give congress a years furlough, we might be able to climb out of debt. No more ideas- thanks. Too Expensive.
Good parenting is free.
Nooo ooo. It takes a village!!
342 | Ojoe Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:05:43am |
re: #304 FrogMarch
The problem isn't the vending machines - it's lazy parents. (IMO)
Agree, and how to encourage better parenting? I note that BHO has given talks encouraging dads to stay with their families as absent fathers are a problem, especially in some groups. So he gets some plus points from me for that encouragement.
343 | Ben Hur Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:05:48am |
re: #335 cliffster
RT @shitmydadsays Nobody is that important. They eat, shit, and screw, just like you. Maybe not shit like you, you got those stomach problems
My favorite is about the lawn belonging to the dog.
Avoid shitmydadtakes though.
SOmething else entirely.
345 | Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:07:03am |
346 | subsailor68 Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:07:32am |
re: #334 FrogMarch
Indeed.
Maybe if we give congress a years furlough, we might be able to climb out of debt. No more ideas- thanks. Too Expensive.
Good parenting is free.
Morning FrogMarch! LOL! Not a bad idea. Here in Texas, our "lege" only meets every other year - for six months. Even that short period of time can result in some loony-tunes legislation. Imagine the damage they could do if they met every year - all year!
Oh yeah - we have an example. The U.S. Congress.
;-)
347 | FrogMarch Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:07:32am |
re: #342 Ojoe
Agree, and how to encourage better parenting? I note that BHO has given talks encouraging dads to stay with their families as absent fathers are a problem, especially in some groups. So he gets some plus points from me for that encouragement.
Totally. And Michelle's garden is nice as well.
348 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:07:40am |
re: #340 Mad Al-Jaffee
Most who made it to their planes were shot down. Go Isreal!
Somewhere I have a link about why Arab armies lose.
349 | Ojoe Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:07:57am |
re: #338 MandyManners
In precise locations on the runways too, so that transports could still land.
350 | reine.de.tout Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:08:19am |
re: #326 NJDhockeyfan
Speaking of Iran, Planet Iran has been following the latest chaos in Iran.
As has Tehran Bureau.
351 | Ben Hur Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:08:22am |
352 | Ojoe Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:08:41am |
re: #347 FrogMarch
Yes, extra points for the veggie garden. Now, get some photovoltaic panels on the White House roof.
353 | reine.de.tout Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:09:47am |
re: #287 NJDhockeyfan
As somebody noted the other day (I think it was Walter), many of the politicians who insist that Government stay out of people's bedrooms (as it should), have no problem whatsoever insisting that government has a place in our kitchens.
354 | Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:10:21am |
re: #348 MandyManners
After Israel's attack, Egyptian radio claimed that Israel's AF was destroyed and the Arabs would easily win the war. I wonder if that guy from Iraq was their propaganda chief in 67?
355 | Sharmuta Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:10:35am |
re: #351 Ben Hur
Well there's a slippery slope, and it will likewise fuel AGW denialists to continue to call science a religion.
356 | Ojoe Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:10:56am |
357 | Killgore Trout Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:11:15am |
358 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:11:50am |
re: #348 MandyManners
Somewhere I have a link about why Arab armies lose.
[Link: meria.idc.ac.il...]
359 | bosforus Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:11:51am |
In 1914 H.G. Wells wrote the book The World Set Free. A brief summary from online-literature.com
Every intelligent person in the world felt that disaster was impending and knew no way of averting it, but few of us realised in the earlier half of 1914 how near the crash was to us. The reader will be amused to find that here it is put off until the year 1956.
It's been a good listen so far (audio book to get through work). The first hour or so is a run up of the important discoveries of man leading up to, obviously, the harnessing of atomic energy. Then it dives right into a European engulfing nuclear war.
Those used by the Allies were lumps of pure Carolinum, painted on the outside with unoxidised cydonator inducive enclosed hermetically in a case of membranium. A little celluloid stud between the handles by which the bomb was lifted was arranged so as to be easily torn off and admit air to the inducive, which at once became active and set up radio-activity in the outer layer of the Carolinum sphere. This liberated fresh inducive, and so in a few minutes the whole bomb was a blazing continual explosion. -Wikipedia
After their plug has been pulled and they're dropped from an airplane they explode in the air, cause large columns of purple fire to disintegrate anything that it touches and creates, like Wiki says, a continually exploding volcano of radioactivity on the ground.
Sidenote: not sure how it's escaped me all these years of reading Wells but he was apparently a huge Socialist. Go figure.
361 | NJDhockeyfan Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:12:23am |
re: #355 Sharmuta
Well there's a slippery slope, and it will likewise fuel AGW denialists to continue to call science a religion.
Well according to this judge it now is a religion. All hail Gaia!
363 | Decatur Deb Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:13:13am |
364 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:13:16am |
re: #354 Mad Al-Jaffee
After Israel's attack, Egyptian radio claimed that Israel's AF was destroyed and the Arabs would easily win the war. I wonder if that guy from Iraq was their propaganda chief in 67?
In a previous life, Baghdad Bob was Egyptian Edward.
366 | Ojoe Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:14:08am |
re: #357 Killgore Trout
A bad move by Reagan. The whole solar ing was neglected for 20 years & we would be in a better position now had it been encouraged.
367 | FrogMarch Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:14:16am |
re: #352 Ojoe
Yes, extra points for the veggie garden. Now, get some photovoltaic panels on the White House roof.
I happen to know that the solar panels at DIA are not hooked up to anything.
Hook em up!
368 | Spare O'Lake Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:14:29am |
369 | subsailor68 Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:15:17am |
re: #356 Ojoe
re: #353 reine.de.tout
When I was a kid I put a coin into a vending machine at the YMCA and it gave me TWO marshmallow cups instead of one.
Jackpot!
Hi Ojoe! Ooh, brings back bad memories for me. When I was a little boy, my folks took me to a petting zoo called Lollipop Farm. There was a vending machine in the middle of the enclosure where, for a nickel, you could buy rye crisp to feed the cute little sheep and goats.
I put my nickel in and pulled the handle. It kinda got stuck. I kept pulling, harder and harder. Finally, it released, and a whole lot of rye crisps came tumbling out. The cute little sheep and goats beat the living crap out of me to get to those rye crisps.
Now I hunt.
370 | sattv4u2 Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:15:23am |
OT ,,,
Election continuation
Here in Atlanta non of the 6 (3 legit candidates ,,, 3 fringe ones) that were running for the Mayors seat (the incumbent was not running,,, term linits) got 50% of the vote, so there will be a runoff Dec 1st between the top 2 finishers
One is a city of Atlanta councilwoman who got 46% of the vote yesterday.
The other is a member of the Georgia State Senate who got 36%
Here's where it gets interesting
If the councilwoman, Mary Norwood, were to win she would be the 1st non African American to be mayor of Atlanta in 30 years. There were less than 100K total votes cast
In 2008 between the 3 counties that encompass Atlanta there were more than 500K votes cast
Could be an interesting 3 weeks
371 | Sharmuta Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:15:34am |
re: #361 NJDhockeyfan
Well according to this judge it now is a religion. All hail Gaia!
Exactly. This judge just set science back.
372 | reine.de.tout Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:15:39am |
re: #368 Spare O'Lake
Could we please leave Rosie's butt out of this?
OMG.
Not nice whatsoever, but I am LMAO!
373 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:15:52am |
re: #358 MandyManners
[Link: meria.idc.ac.il...]
Along these lines, Kenneth Pollack concludes his exhaustive study of Arab military effectiveness by noting that “certain patterns of behavior fostered by the dominant Arab culture were the most important factors contributing to the limited military effectiveness of Arab armies and air forces from 1945 to 1991.” (16) These attributes included over-centralization, discouraging initiative, lack of flexibility, manipulation of information, and the discouragement of leadership at the junior officer level.
374 | NJDhockeyfan Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:16:07am |
376 | FrogMarch Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:16:27am |
re: #346 subsailor68
Imagine the damage they could do if they met every year - all year!
Oh yeah - we have an example. The U.S. Congress.
;-)
:-)
377 | Velvet Elvis Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:16:45am |
Secret copyright treaty leaks. It's bad. Very bad.
The internet chapter of the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement, a secret copyright treaty whose text Obama's administration refused to disclose due to "national security" concerns, has leaked. It's bad. It says:
* * That ISPs have to proactively police copyright on user-contributed material. This means that it will be impossible to run a service like Flickr or YouTube or Blogger, since hiring enough lawyers to ensure that the mountain of material uploaded every second isn't infringing will exceed any hope of profitability.
* * That ISPs have to cut off the Internet access of accused copyright infringers or face liability. This means that your entire family could be denied to the internet -- and hence to civic participation, health information, education, communications, and their means of earning a living -- if one member is accused of copyright infringement, without access to a trial or counsel.
* * That the whole world must adopt US-style "notice-and-takedown" rules that require ISPs to remove any material that is accused -- again, without evidence or trial -- of infringing copyright. This has proved a disaster in the US and other countries, where it provides an easy means of censoring material, just by accusing it of infringing copyright.
* * Mandatory prohibitions on breaking DRM, even if doing so for a lawful purpose (e.g., to make a work available to disabled people; for archival preservation; because you own the copyrighted work that is locked up with DRM)
378 | lawhawk Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:17:29am |
re: #354 Mad Al-Jaffee
The 6 Day war can be distilled as follows:
Egypt blocks Straits of Tiran - an act of war.
Israel responds by destroying the Egyptian air force largely the ground via the IAF, whose drilling on turnaround of sorties allows pilots to engage multiple targets on multiple sorties far in excess of the number of aircraft Israel had in its possession. The timing of the initial raids killed many of the Egyptian pilots and/or destroyed many planes that were closely situated in revetments and use of Durendals to destroy runways prevented surviving Egyptian aircraft to take off.
Egypt's leadership doesn't understand extent of its military defeat or chose to engage in propaganda to (depends on who you listen to) call on its allies in Damascus and Jordan to attack. Jordan does, despite Israel's warnings to stay out. Israel eventually takes the West Bank, but the heaviest fighting and sustained military effort by the Arabs comes from Jordan, who had to weight inaction with a possible Palestinian insurrection; they sided with Egypt in part to avoid a civil war. They lost the West Bank in the bargain.
Damascus dragged its feet, but when it did engage Israel, they too were wiped out fairly quickly despite having terrain advantage. They lost the Golan for their effort.
Israel came out with the Sinai, Golan, West Bank and all of Jerusalem. And the seething by the Arabs and Palestinians has been unending.
379 | Decatur Deb Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:17:49am |
re: #359 bosforus
In 1914 H.G. Wells wrote the book The World Set Free. A brief summary from online-literature.com
After their plug has been pulled and they're dropped from an airplane they explode in the air, cause large columns of purple fire to disintegrate anything that it touches and creates, like Wiki says, a continually exploding volcano of radioactivity on the ground.
Sidenote: not sure how it's escaped me all these years of reading Wells but he was apparently a huge Socialist. Go figure.
In 1903, a religious S/F writer (Benson?) did "Lord of the World." He
described bombing aircraft, "volars", and village-annihilating bombs.
There are references to it on the 'net.
380 | Ben Hur Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:17:59am |
382 | J.S. Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:18:14am |
re: #374 NJDhockeyfan
omg...everytime I think "now I've seen everything" from the UK...it just gets worse...
383 | reine.de.tout Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:18:19am |
re: #369 subsailor68
Hi Ojoe! Ooh, brings back bad memories for me. When I was a little boy, my folks took me to a petting zoo called Lollipop Farm. There was a vending machine in the middle of the enclosure where, for a nickel, you could buy rye crisp to feed the cute little sheep and goats.
I put my nickel in and pulled the handle. It kinda got stuck. I kept pulling, harder and harder. Finally, it released, and a whole lot of rye crisps came tumbling out. The cute little sheep and goats beat the living crap out of me to get to those rye crisps.
Now I hunt.
LOL!
When I was young, on a visit to my grandparents in N.O., they took my little brother and me to the park to feed the geese, brought along some old bread.
So, we're holding the bread in our hands, breaking off small pieces - the geese get wind of the fact that we had bread - and completely surrounded us, pecking at the bread - scared us to death! We have an old 8mm movie of that somewhere . . .
384 | Ben Hur Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:18:27am |
385 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:19:52am |
386 | lawhawk Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:20:28am |
re: #357 Killgore Trout
So, Carter installed 'em. Reagan took them out. That's the focus, but Bush installed another solar system (which critics call ineffective or insufficient because of the climate/angling of the White House roof, etc.)?
Curious. Very curious.
Bush's efforts go unremarked upon other than to say that they were done under the media radar.
So what exactly is Obama going to do to bring solar power to the White House? It's not like he's going to change the roof pitch.
387 | Decatur Deb Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:21:00am |
re: #373 MandyManners
Along these lines, Kenneth Pollack concludes his exhaustive study of Arab military effectiveness by noting that “certain patterns of behavior fostered by the dominant Arab culture were the most important factors contributing to the limited military effectiveness of Arab armies and air forces from 1945 to 1991.” (16) These attributes included over-centralization, discouraging initiative, lack of flexibility, manipulation of information, and the discouragement of leadership at the junior officer level.
Could be culture, but those were the exact problems of the Soviet army
that trained and equipped them. Probably self-reinforcing.
388 | Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:21:17am |
re: #378 lawhawk
Thanks for the spoilers! I still have about 100 pages left in the book! :)
389 | Ojoe Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:21:47am |
re: #386 lawhawk
You just have to tilt the individual panels. No one would see them behind the balustrade.
BBL really.
390 | subsailor68 Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:21:50am |
re: #383 reine.de.tout
LOL!
When I was young, on a visit to my grandparents in N.O., they took my little brother and me to the park to feed the geese, brought along some old bread.So, we're holding the bread in our hands, breaking off small pieces - the geese get wind of the fact that we had bread - and completely surrounded us, pecking at the bread - scared us to death! We have an old 8mm movie of that somewhere . . .
LOL back at ya! You guys were lucky - geese can be real mean critters! And don't get me started on swans!
391 | lawhawk Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:23:00am |
re: #378 lawhawk
Hey, don't blame me for spoiling the book - all the juicy details Oren provides flesh out the basic outline I provided - there's a reason he wrote the book after all. :)
392 | NJDhockeyfan Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:23:25am |
The Berlin Wall: How The Wall Fell
When the Berlin Wall came down 20 years ago, it did not fall from sheer wear and tear of tyranny. People actively chose to destroy it. They tore down that iconic wall not only with pickaxes, hammers and bare hands, but as a culminating act of decades of sacrifice, courage, determination and a complex, globally contested war of ideas.
Many of the vital battles were fought by people living far from Berlin. They were fought by people who persisted in the face of everything from ridicule to misguided Utopianism to violence, imprisonment and the hot wars that flared along the front lines of the Cold War.
The wall itself, built in 1961, stood for 28 years, and was just a small part of the massive iron curtain with which the Soviet empire penned in the people of Eastern Europe. But the wall became a symbol of the far larger divide that split the world for much of the 20th century, partitioning great swathes of the globe into spheres of influence in which the basic trajectories were free vs. unfree, capitalist democracy vs. command-and-control Communism.
A generation later, that may all sound very simple and old-fashioned. It is easy to assume that our world today is more complex, more flexible, more multicultural in the doing and multipolar in the making--and that the Cold War has little to teach.
Perhaps this helps explain why President Barack Obama, who dropped by Berlin to deliver a campaign speech last year, cannot find time to attend the 20th anniversary of the wall's fall, Nov. 9, in Berlin. That is a terrible mistake.
393 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:25:47am |
re: #392 NJDhockeyfan
Perhaps this helps explain why President Barack Obama, who dropped by Berlin to deliver a campaign speech last year, cannot find time to attend the 20th anniversary of the wall's fall, Nov. 9, in Berlin.
Because it won't be about him!
394 | NJDhockeyfan Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:26:20am |
re: #382 J.S.
omg...everytime I think "now I've seen everything" from the UK...it just gets worse...
They have a website.
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395 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:26:36am |
re: #388 Mad Al-Jaffee
Thanks for the spoilers! I still have about 100 pages left in the book! :)
MAJOR SPOILER:
The Israelis won.
396 | Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:28:30am |
re: #395 MandyManners
MAJOR SPOILER:
The Israelis won.
Dammit!
Next you're going to tell me that something happens to the ship in Titanic!
397 | subsailor68 Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:29:44am |
re: #395 MandyManners
MAJOR SPOILER:
The Israelis won.
LOL! One of my favorite spoilers of all time:
Crime and Punishment, by Dostoevsky.
Raskolnikov did it.
398 | Ben Hur Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:30:20am |
399 | Killgore Trout Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:31:36am |
Michelle Malkin on fiscal responsibility...
National Republican Party officials dumped nearly $1 million into the race on behalf of radical leftist GOP candidate Dede Scozzafava, who then turned around, endorsed Owens and siphoned off 5 percent of the vote with her name still on the ballot after she dropped out.
...
One thing is guaranteed at the conclusion of the NY-23 special congressional election: The Beltway Republicans who endorsed radical leftist Dede Scozzafava are going to have indelible egg stains on their faces. And GOP establishment fund-raising organizations will be the poorer for it.
Waste a million and secure a seat of the Dems? Tea Party!
400 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:32:13am |
re: #396 Mad Al-Jaffee
Dammit!
Next you're going to tell me that something happens to the ship in Titanic!
Kate Winslet lost a pretty jewel.
401 | lawhawk Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:32:43am |
Odd polling place incident of the week: guy strips naked in front of a Brooklyn polling place claiming he's the son of Jesus Christ.
402 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:32:46am |
re: #397 subsailor68
LOL! One of my favorite spoilers of all time:
Crime and Punishment, by Dostoevsky.
Raskolnikov did it.
That's one book I passed on. Maybe I'll read it this winter.
403 | J.S. Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:32:48am |
re: #386 lawhawk
So what exactly is Obama going to do to bring solar power to the White House? It's not like he's going to change the roof pitch.
Maybe Obama can have some of those Al Gore meters installed...(There's an article on the front-page of the National Post, by Nick Allen, which reads: "Former vice-president Al Gore has been accused of profiting from the climate-change agenda after claims he is on course to become the first 'carbon billionaire.' Mr. Gore, who is in line to make a large profit from a firm producing smart meters that monitor household electricity use, has denied the claims."
405 | Spare O'Lake Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:33:05am |
re: #395 MandyManners
MAJOR SPOILER:
The Israelis won.
Too bad they were stymied by the USA from finishing the war to its logical military conclusion, including unconditional surrenders from Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon. There could then have been a real peace treaty.
*sigh*
406 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:34:32am |
407 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:35:02am |
re: #405 Spare O'Lake
Too bad they were stymied by the USA from finishing the war to its logical military conclusion, including unconditional surrenders from Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon. There could then have been a real peace treaty.
*sigh*
I wasn't aware that we meddled.
408 | Baier Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:35:04am |
re: #366 Ojoe
A bad move by Reagan. The whole solar ing was neglected for 20 years & we would be in a better position now had it been encouraged.
Solar is highly inefficient, and even more so during Reagan's time. Not to mention the fact that there is not enough high grade silicone being produced to keep up with demand. With current technology, solar is a waste of money.
409 | subsailor68 Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:35:17am |
re: #402 MandyManners
That's one book I passed on. Maybe I'll read it this winter.
It's not exactly a light-hearted romp. And that's not exactly a spoiler, since ya find that out on about page two.
;-)
411 | oldegeezr Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:36:13am |
Things heating up again in Iran...pigs beating woman at the 18 second mark...
Republican Guard heros’...!
412 | Ben Hur Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:36:20am |
The New York Times On Virginia's Elections then and now
In 2005, on a candidate who won 52-to-46-percent:
RICHMOND, Va., Nov. 8 - Lt. Gov. Timothy M. Kaine, a Democrat, won the race for governor in Virginia tonight, scoring a major political victory for his mentor, Gov. Mark Warner, and sending a powerful message that President Bush's political standing has fallen in this reliably Republican state.
vs
2009, on a candidate who won just shy of an astounding 60-to-40-percent:
RICHMOND, Va. — Robert F. McDonnell, a Republican and a former state attorney general, won a decisive victory in Virginia’s governor’s race Tuesday, a stark reversal of fortune for Democrats who have held control in Richmond for the past eight years.
[Then, skipping down an unprecedented 20 paragraphs...]
Democrats fought hard to avoid a rout. Though the Obama administration initially expressed quiet reservations about Mr. Deeds, the president campaigned twice for him, helped him raise money, appeared in his advertisements and extended the support of his political campaign arm, Organizing for America.
413 | gegenkritik Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:36:38am |
re: #405 Spare O'Lake
It was the UN-SC who stopped Israel from annihilating a whole Egyptian army (the same SC who was silent when Egypt prepared for war against Israel).
414 | NJDhockeyfan Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:37:05am |
...and in world economic news, India trades dollars for gold...
Gold extends record high on India purchase
Gold prices continued to rise on Wednesday extending the all-time highs which followed India’s central bank bought 200 tonnes of the precious metal, swapping dollars for bullion as the country’s finance minister warned the economies of the US and Europe had “collapsed”.
India’s decision to exchange $6.7bn for gold equivalent to 8 per cent of world annual mine production sent the strongest signal yet that Asian countries were moving away from the US currency.
The purchase by New Delhi’s Reserve Bank from the International Monetary Fund pushed gold prices to a record $1,090.90 per troy ounce, up 2.6 per cent on the day, as traders bet that other central banks would also become buyers.
Pranab Mukherjee, India’s finance minister, said the acquisition reflected the power of an economy that laid claim to the fifth-largest global foreign reserves: “We have money to buy gold. We have enough foreign exchange reserves.”
He contrasted India’s strength with weakness elsewhere: “Europe collapsed and North America collapsed.”
415 | philosophus invidius Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:39:27am |
Breaking OT:
Italy Convicts 23 Former CIA Agents in Renditions Trial
416 | jaunte Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:39:27am |
re: #412 Ben Hur
I think that independent fis-cons don't like some Republican so-con tendencies, but they like excessive spending even less.
417 | Killgore Trout Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:39:51am |
re: #412 Ben Hur
It depends on what they ask in the exit polls...
Exit polls: Mixed bag for GOP, Dems
In New Jersey exit polls, 60 percent of voters said Obama did not figure into their decision, while 57 percent of the Virginia electorate echoed that sentiment, numbers that could potentially calm some Democrats' fears of a backlash against the administration heading into next year's mid-term elections.
418 | Ben Hur Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:40:04am |
re: #411 oldegeezr
Things heating up again in Iran...pigs beating woman at the 18 second mark...
obama ya ba oona ya ba ma 13 aban iran 4 nov
“Obama, Obama, Are you with the regime or with us?”
419 | avanti Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:40:54am |
re: #353 reine.de.tout
As somebody noted the other day (I think it was Walter), many of the politicians who insist that Government stay out of people's bedrooms (as it should), have no problem whatsoever insisting that government has a place in our kitchens.
That's one part of the bill that I certainly oppose. I was not nuts about calorie charts at fast food restaurants at first, but that made some sense with 800 calorie salads. If you can't figure out that a Snickers is a high calorie snack, you would not be able to figure out how to use a vending machine.
420 | Baier Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:44:46am |
re: #419 avanti
That's one part of the bill that I certainly oppose. I was not nuts about calorie charts at fast food restaurants at first, but that made some sense with 800 calorie salads. If you can't figure out that a Snickers is a high calorie snack, you would not be able to figure out how to use a vending machine.
/Supermarkets should be forced to install tunnels to fatty foods. The fattier the food, the narrower the tunnel you'd have to fit through to get to the food.
421 | jaunte Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:45:03am |
re: #419 avanti
Our food delivery system is perhaps unfortunately focused on ease of distribution and preserving shelf life, rather than health.
422 | J.S. Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:46:15am |
re: #353 reine.de.tout
(I'd also note, that government regulators don't just want to confine themselves to the kitchens...they're far more ambitious...they want to control the amount of water consumption (smart meters, which have cut-offs), how hot your living-room will be in the winter time; how much electricity you'll be able to consume, etc.)
423 | Spare O'Lake Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:46:28am |
re: #419 avanti
That's one part of the bill that I certainly oppose. I was not nuts about calorie charts at fast food restaurants at first, but that made some sense with 800 calorie salads. If you can't figure out that a Snickers is a high calorie snack, you would not be able to figure out how to use a vending machine.
"DANGER - Yummy Munchies Very Bad"
424 | Soundboard Fez Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:46:59am |
re: #419 avanti
That's one part of the bill that I certainly oppose. I was not nuts about calorie charts at fast food restaurants at first, but that made some sense with 800 calorie salads. If you can't figure out that a Snickers is a high calorie snack, you would not be able to figure out how to use a vending machine.
I love having nutritional info available for restaurants. But I agree that it's not the government's mandate to make.
At most, incentivize it. Tax credits for restauranteurs and vending machine operators who post nutritional info. Tax credits for restaurants and bars that ban smoking. Let proprietors figure out the market and the economics.
425 | NJDhockeyfan Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:47:20am |
re: #418 Ben Hur
obama ya ba oona ya ba ma 13 aban iran 4 nov
“Obama, Obama, Are you with the regime or with us?”
I think they know the answer to that already.
426 | webevintage Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:47:48am |
re: #332 MandyManners
If true, that proposal *is* a serious flaw. It illustrates the delusion that we need the government to tell us how to live our lives down to that detail.
States have all kinds of laws about vending machines in schools now and what can be sold in them...even in Arkansas. Personally I don't care if folks want to let their kids rot their guts out by drinking Coke, but the Legislature here seems to think it is a big deal.
It is a stupid regulation to have in any of the bills, But I like these kind of side things being put in the HC bills because it is something that can be taken out to please the Republicans (who are not going to vote for Health Care Reform no matter what is done to any bill short of gutting it) and make them fill like got a "win".
Same thing with anything that says anything about abortion or illegal aliens.
Let the conservatives win their little battles, I say, just as long as in the end there is health care reform this year.
BTW, Congratulations Republicans on VA and NJ...no spin from me.
427 | Bubblehead II Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:49:29am |
428 | oldegeezr Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:49:35am |
re: #418 Ben Hur
President Barack Obama noted the anniversary of the takeover of the U.S. Embassy and urged the two countries to move beyond the "path of sustained suspicion, mistrust and confrontation."
The hostage crisis "deeply affected the lives of courageous Americans who were unjustly held hostage, and we owe these Americans and their families our gratitude for their extraordinary service and sacrifice,"
429 | Ben Hur Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:50:31am |
re: #428 oldegeezr
I read a report yesterday that the opposition party in Iran was set to apologize to the US over the embassy.
430 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:50:35am |
re: #419 avanti
That's one part of the bill that I certainly oppose. I was not nuts about calorie charts at fast food restaurants at first, but that made some sense with 800 calorie salads. If you can't figure out that a Snickers is a high calorie snack, you would not be able to figure out how to use a vending machine.
It was me darling.
431 | Soundboard Fez Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:50:46am |
re: #426 webevintage
States have all kinds of laws about vending machines in schools now and what can be sold in them...even in Arkansas. Personally I don't care if folks want to let their kids rot their guts out by drinking Coke, but the Legislature here seems to think it is a big deal.
Schools are the one place I'm okay with it. I'm pretty careful about what my kids eat and drink, i.e., I don't let them rot their guts out by drinking Coke except on special occassions. But I'm not in the school with them either.
432 | deadletterboy Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:51:07am |
Congratulations Maine, on being a whole bag of assholes.
(I'm sure there has been a similar post or two, but I felt I needed to drop my two cents.)
433 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:52:14am |
re: #432 deadletterboy
Congratulations Maine, on being a whole bag of assholes.
(I'm sure there has been a similar post or two, but I felt I needed to drop my two cents.)
What? Clarify?
434 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:52:21am |
re: #426 webevintage
States have all kinds of laws about vending machines in schools now and what can be sold in them...even in Arkansas. Personally I don't care if folks want to let their kids rot their guts out by drinking Coke, but the Legislature here seems to think it is a big deal.
It is a stupid regulation to have in any of the bills, But I like these kind of side things being put in the HC bills because it is something that can be taken out to please the Republicans (who are not going to vote for Health Care Reform no matter what is done to any bill short of gutting it) and make them fill like got a "win".
Same thing with anything that says anything about abortion or illegal aliens.
Let the conservatives win their little battles, I say, just as long as in the end there is health care reform this year.BTW, Congratulations Republicans on VA and NJ...no spin from me.
I'm all for that because parents cannot hold their kids' hands every day but, from what I gathered, this proposal is about machines available to adults.
435 | J.S. Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:52:32am |
Bob Cardi of CBC radio did an investigative report (this was years ago) on the water meters (these were meters put into individual homes) in London...then, people who defaulted (couldn't pay up) had their water cut off etc. Then they'd have to put money into the meter to receive a measured allotment...
436 | SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:53:15am |
re: #401 lawhawk
Odd polling place incident of the week: guy strips naked in front of a Brooklyn polling place claiming he's the son of Jesus Christ.
If that were true, why would it necessitate taking off his clothes in front of a polling place in Brooklyn?
(My polling place is boring. All we had out front were some dogs tied up to bike racks, and a flag.)
437 | subsailor68 Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:53:30am |
re: #424 Soundboard Fez
I love having nutritional info available for restaurants. But I agree that it's not the government's mandate to make.
At most, incentivize it. Tax credits for restauranteurs and vending machine operators who post nutritional info. Tax credits for restaurants and bars that ban smoking. Let proprietors figure out the market and the economics.
Um, I think you're contradicting yourself a bit here. In your first paragraph, you don't want government to mandate it, but in your second you propose to use tax credits (a government function) to modify behavior, then call on proprietors to figure out the market - which has been artificially affected by government mandated behavior via the tax code.
I do think I understand your basic point though - and I too prefer the use of tax credits to fees, penalties, and the like.
438 | Ben Hur Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:54:21am |
re: #436 SanFranciscoZionist
If that were true, why would it necessitate taking off his clothes in front of a polling place in Brooklyn?
(My polling place is boring. All we had out front were some dogs tied up to bike racks, and a flag.)
Maybe he meant Christie?
439 | Political Atheist Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:54:31am |
I have an IT question-We have downsized the office quite a bit.
I must replace our "server". In 2002 it was installed with server 2000 software.
Server is in quotes because there are only 3 of us who access it via our PC workstations. As I understand it 3 workstations accessing will not come close to triggering a need for dedicated server software. It's not easy to get an XP based PC new anymore. Vista is not an option.
Should I trust 7 to reliably get the job done and just by a fairly powerful workstation and let it be the server?
441 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:55:31am |
re: #435 J.S.
Bob Cardi of CBC radio did an investigative report (this was years ago) on the water meters (these were meters put into individual homes) in London...then, people who defaulted (couldn't pay up) had their water cut off etc. Then they'd have to put money into the meter to receive a measured allotment...
Payment ahead of time?!
442 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:56:27am |
re: #439 Rightwingconspirator
I have an IT question-We have downsized the office quite a bit.
I must replace our "server". In 2002 it was installed with server 2000 software.Server is in quotes because there are only 3 of us who access it via our PC workstations. As I understand it 3 workstations accessing will not come close to triggering a need for dedicated server software. It's not easy to get an XP based PC new anymore. Vista is not an option.
Should I trust 7 to reliably get the job done and just by a fairly powerful workstation and let it be the server?
SHOOT IT ALL!
443 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:57:03am |
Heh, I like this take on the NY-23 spin by David Weigel:
Hours before the polls closed, Hoffman backers were echoing the pundits’ spin–this race would be a referendum on President Obama, and a victory for Hoffman would put the brakes on health care reform by making Democrats worry about challenges to their re-elections in 2010. As a Hoffman victory became more and more remote, the rhetoric changed. The message became the message of two weeks ago. This election wasn’t about showing Republicans that conservatives could win. It was about showing Republicans that they couldn’t win without conservatives.
[Link: washingtonindependent.com...]
444 | Decatur Deb Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:58:12am |
re: #435 J.S.
Bob Cardi of CBC radio did an investigative report (this was years ago) on the water meters (these were meters put into individual homes) in London...then, people who defaulted (couldn't pay up) had their water cut off etc. Then they'd have to put money into the meter to receive a measured allotment...
That's pretty much how we bought our first B&W TV. It got both channels.
445 | sattv4u2 Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:58:25am |
446 | J.S. Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:58:31am |
re: #439 Rightwingconspirator
Have you considered going Linux (Debian?) (HP offers free courses -- they're quite brief -- I believe they have a course on Servers 101).
447 | Soundboard Fez Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:58:51am |
re: #437 subsailor68
Um, I think you're contradicting yourself a bit here. In your first paragraph, you don't want government to mandate it, but in your second you propose to use tax credits (a government function) to modify behavior, then call on proprietors to figure out the market - which has been artificially affected by government mandated behavior via the tax code.
I do think I understand your basic point though - and I too prefer the use of tax credits to fees, penalties, and the like.
I have a big problem with the government telling me "thou shalt." Not so much with the government using "should" to encourage responsible behavior, even if it does artificially enhance the market.
In any event, if I went to Applebees and bought a salad that was 1200 calories without my knowledge, that's not exactly a pure free market choice anyway.
448 | subsailor68 Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:59:34am |
re: #424 Soundboard Fez
BTW, I wasn't being snarky in my response to ya. As I said, I too prefer tax credits. I guess my point was more concerned with government using the tax code to modify behavior. Generally it falls into two categories:
Tax credits or incentives are designed to "reward" good behavior (as perceived by government).
Fines or penalties are designed to "punish" bad behavior (as perceived by government).
Both are mandates, and both use government force to drive decision making - as opposed to market forces.
449 | J.S. Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:59:38am |
re: #441 MandyManners
yes. The customers who had a bad credit history, had to be on a "pay as you go" plan...no "free water."
450 | lawhawk Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:59:47am |
re: #433 Walter L. Newton
Maine voters apparently agree with President Obama and rejected a gay marriage referendum.
Maine became the 31st state to block same-sex marriage through a public referendum, a result that will force supporters to rethink their national strategy at a crucial time for the movement. With 84 percent of precincts reporting early Wednesday, the repeal proposal had 53 percent of the vote, even though polls had indicated the race was a dead heat.This year three other states — Iowa, New Hampshire and Vermont — joined Massachusetts and Connecticut in allowing same-sex marriage, but only through court rulings and legislative action. Maine, with its libertarian leanings, had seemed to offer an excellent chance of reversing the long national trend of voters rejecting marriage equality at the ballot box.
Some said the loss was a sign that the state-by-state approach favored by the largest gay-rights groups had failed and that the focus should move to reversing the federal ban on same-sex marriage, which Congress can reverse without voter approval. Others argued that the defeat only reinforced the need to keep winning grassroots support.
451 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:59:49am |
re: #439 Rightwingconspirator
I have an IT question-We have downsized the office quite a bit.
I must replace our "server". In 2002 it was installed with server 2000 software.Server is in quotes because there are only 3 of us who access it via our PC workstations. As I understand it 3 workstations accessing will not come close to triggering a need for dedicated server software. It's not easy to get an XP based PC new anymore. Vista is not an option.
Should I trust 7 to reliably get the job done and just by a fairly powerful workstation and let it be the server?
Never buy a Microsoft product until at least one service pack has been released, good rule to live by.
452 | Political Atheist Wed, Nov 4, 2009 8:59:50am |
re: #442 MandyManners
Tempting,tempting.
Ever heard about the guy who shot his PC /Windows ME? He shoots it, the cops show up, they arrest him for the illegal firing of a hand gun etc etc.
He goes up to the judge and pleads guilty. The Judge says-I have ME too he says. I'm inclined to dismiss the charges with a stern warning but the reload and the extra ten shots fired...
1 year informal probation and court costs.
453 | philosophus invidius Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:00:10am |
re: #443 ausador
And either way it's not winning because of the socons: either because they split the vote, or because people won't vote for the Republican socon.
454 | Decatur Deb Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:00:57am |
re: #447 Soundboard Fez
(snip)
In any event, if I went to Applebees and bought a salad that was 1200 calories without my knowledge, that's not exactly a pure free market choice anyway.
An awful lot of behavioral science went into getting you outside that salad.
455 | Soundboard Fez Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:02:49am |
re: #448 subsailor68
BTW, I wasn't being snarky in my response to ya. As I said, I too prefer tax credits. I guess my point was more concerned with government using the tax code to modify behavior. Generally it falls into two categories:
Tax credits or incentives are designed to "reward" good behavior (as perceived by government).
Fines or penalties are designed to "punish" bad behavior (as perceived by government).
Both are mandates, and both use government force to drive decision making - as opposed to market forces.
What market forces would encourage power plant operators to lower emissions, for example? There are many situations where the free market just doesn't come into play.
I don't view credits as mandates. We are free to take or leave them. It's a sliding scale from Credits>Fines>Criminalization.
456 | jaunte Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:03:04am |
re: #454 Decatur Deb
Mostly it goes "if we sell a cup of bacon and cheese on top of some lettuce, people will feel full, and we can call it a salad."
457 | Political Atheist Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:03:46am |
re: #451 ausador
That is good advice.
My rule here has been 1 year in service before I'll buy it. If I go for an XP machine, it will be one of the last on the shelf I think. The one nobody wanted. Ouch.
458 | subsailor68 Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:03:59am |
re: #447 Soundboard Fez
I have a big problem with the government telling me "thou shalt." Not so much with the government using "should" to encourage responsible behavior, even if it does artificially enhance the market.
In any event, if I went to Applebees and bought a salad that was 1200 calories without my knowledge, that's not exactly a pure free market choice anyway.
LOL! I'm with ya on the salad thing - although I wonder what the heck you put in a salad to get that puppy to 1200 calories!
"Can you tell me what's in the Applebee's Special Salad?"
"Oui, madame. We start with a bed of the freshest garden vegetables available. Then we add a layer of oreos. Next, a generous helping of fried twinkies, all topped with a dollop of Reddi-Whip."
"Oh. Could I just have the double bacon and fried pork chop beef burger?"
459 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:04:08am |
460 | sattv4u2 Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:04:39am |
461 | Decatur Deb Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:05:38am |
re: #456 jaunte
Mostly it goes "if we sell a cup of bacon and cheese on top of some lettuce, people will feel full, and we can call it a salad."
Cheesecake Factory posts its calorie content online--heartstopping read.
462 | Soundboard Fez Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:05:46am |
re: #458 subsailor68
[Link: health.yahoo.com...]
On the Border’ Grande Taco Salad w/Taco Beef and Smoked Chipotle Vinaigrette Dressing
1,680 calories
121 g fat (40 g saturated)
2,660 mg sodium
Chevy’s Fresh Mex’s Tostada Salad with Chicken
1,551 calories
94 g fat (37 g saturated)
2,840 mg sodium
Macaroni Grill’s Seared Sea Scallops Salad
1,320 calories
91 g fat (25 g saturated)
2,860 mg sodium
The 1200 was a little too conservative I guess. Ack!
463 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:06:00am |
re: #458 subsailor68
LOL! I'm with ya on the salad thing - although I wonder what the heck you put in a salad to get that puppy to 1200 calories!
"Can you tell me what's in the Applebee's Special Salad?"
"Oui, madame. We start with a bed of the freshest garden vegetables available. Then we add a layer of oreos. Next, a generous helping of fried twinkies, all topped with a dollop of Reddi-Whip."
"Oh. Could I just have the double bacon and fried pork chop beef burger?"
A tablespoon of dressing can have 60 calories. If you consider how a lot of us (I'm guilty) pour on salad dressing, it can add up real quick.
464 | Political Atheist Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:06:15am |
re: #446 J.S.
I have not previously just because of the time learning curve. However if golds stays at record levels I'll have plenty of time left to study Linux. DEAD Phones today at work. Nobody wants casting gold for Christmas rings at $1100!
465 | subsailor68 Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:07:38am |
re: #463 Walter L. Newton
A tablespoon of dressing can have 60 calories. If you consider how a lot of us (I'm guilty) pour on salad dressing, it can add up real quick.
Hi Walter! Hope you're doing great today. Yeah, sigh, you and me both. And I suppose adding the bleu cheese crumbles doesn't help much either (a particular weakness of mine).
466 | Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:07:53am |
re: #458 subsailor68
LOL! I'm with ya on the salad thing - although I wonder what the heck you put in a salad to get that puppy to 1200 calories!
"Can you tell me what's in the Applebee's Special Salad?"
"Oui, madame. We start with a bed of the freshest garden vegetables available. Then we add a layer of oreos. Next, a generous helping of fried twinkies, all topped with a dollop of Reddi-Whip."
"Oh. Could I just have the double bacon and fried pork chop beef burger?"
And a Diet Coke.
467 | Soundboard Fez Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:08:16am |
re: #463 Walter L. Newton
A tablespoon of dressing can have 60 calories. If you consider how a lot of us (I'm guilty) pour on salad dressing, it can add up real quick.
I went to college with a lot of obese vegetarians. We used to sing "Salad Dressing Thighs" to the tune of "Bette Davis Eyes."
468 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:08:57am |
re: #457 Rightwingconspirator
That is good advice.
My rule here has been 1 year in service before I'll buy it. If I go for an XP machine, it will be one of the last on the shelf I think. The one nobody wanted. Ouch.
You can buy a new copy of windows XP for about $40 now, just buy whatever machine you want and then load XP onto it.
469 | subsailor68 Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:08:59am |
470 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:09:11am |
re: #465 subsailor68
Hi Walter! Hope you're doing great today. Yeah, sigh, you and me both. And I suppose adding the bleu cheese crumbles doesn't help much either (a particular weakness of mine).
Oh shit... the hell with tossing blue cheese crumbles on the salad... I just shove them directly up my nose... cheese, France and me... a match made in...
471 | badger1970 Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:09:17am |
re: #461 Decatur Deb
"You mean that whole cheesecake I ate was 2400 calories?" /
472 | Political Atheist Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:10:38am |
re: #446 J.S.
Forgot to mention-Thanks for that link!
473 | Decatur Deb Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:11:13am |
474 | Velvet Elvis Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:11:46am |
Speaking of government overreach . . .. .
MA town makes it illegal to own more than three cats
DUDLEY, Mass. (AP) -- It's now illegal in one Massachusetts town to own more than three cats without getting a special license. Voters at a town meeting in Dudley on Monday night added language to a town bylaw that makes it illegal to own more than three cats without a $50 residential kennel license. Dudley is about 60 miles southwest of Boston.
The article was in response to a neighborhood feud over the 15 cats owned by Mary Ellen Richards.
The Telegram & Gazette of Worcester reports that one neighbor claimed the cats have ruined his yard.
Richards has put her home up for sale and says she plans to move to a "more cat-friendly community."
475 | Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:11:50am |
You guys are making me hungry. Time for lunch. bbl.
476 | Decatur Deb Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:12:03am |
re: #470 Walter L. Newton
Oh shit... the hell with tossing blue cheese crumbles on the salad... I just shove them directly up my nose... cheese, France and me... a match made in...
Dere's Walter, doin a line a da blue.
477 | Political Atheist Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:12:07am |
re: #468 ausador
That just might happen.
Reformat a 7 machine and drop in XP pro. Ironic.
478 | lawhawk Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:12:12am |
re: #466 Mad Al-Jaffee
And sweet n' lo for my coffee, with the pie a la mode.
479 | J.S. Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:12:40am |
re: #464 Rightwingconspirator
Yep. Many years ago I tried out a Linux Red Hat install...(eventually abandoned it -- since it wouldn't run the Windows programs I liked, and it was all command lines -- a real pain.). I did do (recently) a Debian "live spin" CD...Debian has come a long way -- easy to install; much, much easier to use; lots of support...(I thinking of maybe installing Debian on one partition)...
480 | Velvet Elvis Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:14:23am |
re: #479 J.S.
Yep. Many years ago I tried out a Linux Red Hat install...(eventually abandoned it -- since it wouldn't run the Windows programs I liked, and it was all command lines -- a real pain.). I did do (recently) a Debian "live spin" CD...Debian has come a long way -- easy to install; much, much easier to use; lots of support...(I thinking of maybe installing Debian on one partition)...
I've been using debian for five years and it's never disappointed me.
481 | reine.de.tout Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:14:50am |
re: #279 Sharmuta
Is it okay if I call you "reine" instead of reine.de.tout? It's a lot less typing, but I don't want to violate terms of service either.
[eye roll]
You just go on ahead and call me "reine".
It's not like I picked a nic that was a variation on my real name or anything.
482 | SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:15:26am |
483 | NJDhockeyfan Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:16:14am |
Moonshine turns horse race rowdy
TODOS SANTOS CUCHUMATAN, Guatemala (Reuters) – Despite a drinking ban mayhem erupted at a traditional Mayan horse race on Sunday with riders falling off their horses and drunken spectators stumbling through the mountain village.
Hundreds of tourists and locals gathered for the annual spectacle in Todo Santos Cuchumatan on Sunday to cheer the dozens of riders charging back and forth along a 330-foot (100-meter) length of road for up to seven hours.
But the macho test of stamina was marred, as it has been in the past, by the copious amount of homemade spirits the riders consume, sometimes for days before the race.
At least two Mayan riders fell off their horses during this year's race, and one was carried away by bystanders after being trampled in the mud. Another man walked away from the track with a bloody face.
"People here aren't able to hold their drink, if they have one drink, they just continue until they're so drunk they want to hit someone," said Modesto Mendez, the mayor of the village.
Mendez banned the selling of hard alcohol in the village in May of last year to cut down on accidents, deaths and fighting.
But 18 months later, on the Day of the Dead celebrated throughout Mexico and Central America, drunken people were seen staggering through the village.
484 | lawhawk Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:16:57am |
Speaking of food, I got to try out Carlo's bakery in Hoboken. If the name sounds familiar, it's because it's featured on the TLC show Cake Boss. It doesn't have a pretentious air to the shop; I was there at 5pm and it was packed with moms toting around their kids and some were munching on various pastries and cookies.
The pastries we did try were very good. Rainbow cookies and chocolate puff pastries were excellent. For a change, the hype about the place matched the quality of the food.
485 | Political Atheist Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:17:01am |
re: #479 J.S.
Interesting how if IT is your job by half or full time you have this great set of skills. IT is 10% of my job so I'm less up to date. I'll have to look up Debian! LOL. When I priced Red Hat I got Red Faced. 3 users! $3000 or some similar silliness. I think a switch that says "sell high" goes off the second you say "server" to a supplier.
486 | Ben Hur Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:18:00am |
re: #474 Conservative Moonbat
Speaking of government overreach . . .. .
Discrimination against...,you know what? Forget it.
487 | subsailor68 Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:18:20am |
re: #474 Conservative Moonbat
Speaking of government overreach . . .. .
Sheesh! From your snippet:
The article was in response to a neighborhood feud over the 15 cats owned by Mary Ellen Richards.
I'll never understand how politicians think.
"Okay, we've got a crazy lady who has 15 cats. What'll we do about it?"
"We need to pass a law."
"Good idea. What'll we make the max?"
"How about 14?"
"Naw, should be fewer than that."
"Hey, let's not make it illegal to own 'em - just tax the hell out of any more than - say - three!"
"Cool! That's the ticket."
Oh wait, I guess I do know how politicians think after all.
488 | Ben Hur Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:19:21am |
re: #474 Conservative Moonbat
Speaking of government overreach . . .. .
OK. Maybe this way:
First Maine, THEN THIS?!?!?!?!?
489 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:21:46am |
re: #449 J.S.
yes. The customers who had a bad credit history, had to be on a "pay as you go" plan...no "free water."
I can see that being imposed here no matter what your credit history.
490 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:22:51am |
re: #452 Rightwingconspirator
Tempting,tempting.
Ever heard about the guy who shot his PC /Windows ME? He shoots it, the cops show up, they arrest him for the illegal firing of a hand gun etc etc.He goes up to the judge and pleads guilty. The Judge says-I have ME too he says. I'm inclined to dismiss the charges with a stern warning but the reload and the extra ten shots fired...
1 year informal probation and court costs.
Now, that's justice.
491 | NJDhockeyfan Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:23:04am |
492 | simoom Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:23:34am |
re: #257 NJDhockeyfan
Wow, I didn't get that impression at all.
If anything it felt like it was poking fun that that crazy lizard/reptile people conspiracy theory, where the proponents believe the reptile people have infiltrated the highest levels of government and industry, and they use their influence to cause widespread dysfunction and strife. The believers in the global conspiracy look through photos and videos of the powerful for evidence of their reptilian nature slipping out.
493 | SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:23:41am |
re: #488 Ben Hur
OK. Maybe this way:
First Maine, THEN THIS?!?!?!?!?
It's a little-known fact that an early draft of the Bill of Rights contained an amendment reading "the right of the people to keep and hoard cats shall not be infringed upon". It was axed only because Madison once lived next to a cat lady.
494 | bosforus Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:25:39am |
re: #493 SanFranciscoZionist
It's a little-known fact that an early draft of the Bill of Rights contained an amendment reading "the right of the people to keep and hoard cats shall not be infringed upon". It was axed only because Madison once lived next to a cat lady.
Probably had something to do with mice and rats.
495 | King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:25:48am |
I just ate a one pound T-bone. Make sure Nancy knows it didn't come out of a vending machine.
496 | Velvet Elvis Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:26:31am |
re: #493 SanFranciscoZionist
It's a little-known fact that an early draft of the Bill of Rights contained an amendment reading "the right of the people to keep and hoard cats shall not be infringed upon". It was axed only because Madison once lived next to a cat lady.
The odd part is that they limited it to cats. You can't have four cats but you can have 50 hedgehogs. I guess they couldn't limit it to 3 pets per household because that would fuck up aquariums and ant colonies.
497 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:28:17am |
re: #484 lawhawk
Speaking of food, I got to try out Carlo's bakery in Hoboken. If the name sounds familiar, it's because it's featured on the TLC show Cake Boss. It doesn't have a pretentious air to the shop; I was there at 5pm and it was packed with moms toting around their kids and some were munching on various pastries and cookies.
The pastries we did try were very good. Rainbow cookies and chocolate puff pastries were excellent. For a change, the hype about the place matched the quality of the food.
Oooh, I love that show. How Buddy doesn't pop a cork every now and then is beyond me. I'd end up shoving a frosting bag up someone's nose. Did you see the one where the bride-to-be showed up and defaced her own cake?!
498 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:28:48am |
499 | NJDhockeyfan Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:29:53am |
Attorney From Michael Savage 'Book Of Hate' Koran Suit Tapped By Muslim Mafia Authors
Daniel Horowitz, the attorney who represented shock jock Michael Savage in his recent copyright infringement suit against the Council on American-Islamic Relations, is set to go up against CAIR again as counsel for the co-author of Muslim Mafia.And, Horowitz told TPMmuckraker in a phone interview this morning, he's relishing the opportunity for Round Two with the Muslim civil rights group.
A judge ruled mostly in CAIR's favor yesterday in a suit seeking to block Dave Gaubatz from publishing documents taken by his son Chris, who went undercover as a Muslim intern at CAIR.
Horowitz told us he thinks his clients have a good case.
"The big picture is that [Chris] took things from the garbage, which is not protected. ... And CAIR is a group formed by Hamas, there's no question about that. I think that puts what he did in a very different light -- it's not like he took from the Red Cross," Horowitz says. "He's looking at a group that kills people and exposing what they do."
500 | Decatur Deb Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:29:58am |
re: #492 simoom
Wow, I didn't get that impression at all.
If anything it felt like it was poking fun that that crazy lizard/reptile people conspiracy theory, where the proponents believe the reptile people have infiltrated the highest levels of government and industry, and they use their influence to cause widespread dysfunction and strife. The believers in the global conspiracy look through photos and videos of the powerful for evidence of their reptilian nature slipping out.
It's obviously an anti-LGF parable, perhaps produced by the media wizards
at the stalker site.
501 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:31:12am |
re: #496 Conservative Moonbat
The odd part is that they limited it to cats. You can't have four cats but you can have 50 hedgehogs. I guess they couldn't limit it to 3 pets per household because that would fuck up aquariums and ant colonies.
I've always wanted to own 50 hedgehogs. Reckon I'll hafta' move to Massachusetts.
502 | J.S. Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:32:00am |
Edmonton has had a limit on the number of adult cats per household (it's maximum 6) for years now...(cats also require a license, $250 fine for not licensing; and if a cat wanders onto someone else's private property, the cat owner can be fined 100 dollars).
503 | MandyManners Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:33:33am |
re: #502 J.S.
Edmonton has had a limit on the number of adult cats per household (it's maximum 6) for years now...(cats also require a license, $250 fine for not licensing; and if a cat wanders onto someone else's private property, the cat owner can be fined 100 dollars).
Wow. That's the nature of cats.
504 | oldegeezr Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:34:58am |
The leader of the Republican Party just informed the faithful that the loss in NY-23 was insignificant because...
1] Highest percentage of vote ever won by the GOP.
2] There was no primary...this would indict the Republicans, including Newt Gingrich.
3] They initially nominated a horrible candidate in Scuzzy.
4] Conservatism didn’t loose it was the Republicans.
OK, Hoffman wasn’t a socon he was a Republican; dear leader...?
505 | reine.de.tout Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:37:46am |
re: #502 J.S.
Edmonton has had a limit on the number of adult cats per household (it's maximum 6) for years now...(cats also require a license, $250 fine for not licensing; and if a cat wanders onto someone else's private property, the cat owner can be fined 100 dollars).
What do they do with all the extra cats? I have 4 cats, and one that showed up starving and so we feed him. Actually, 2 of the other 4 also were cats that just showed up.
Surely this restriction would lead to dumping of cats, and also killing of cats and kittens. We had someone here leave a bag full of kittens by the interstate hoping, I'm sure, that they would get hit and killed. Somebody saw the kittens and stopped and saved them. If there's a limit on cats, people be deliberately running them over. I can't imagine . . .
506 | Vicious Babushka Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:38:41am |
re: #496 Conservative Moonbat
The odd part is that they limited it to cats. You can't have four cats but you can have 50 hedgehogs. I guess they couldn't limit it to 3 pets per household because that would fuck up aquariums and ant colonies.
I wish there would be a law like that about dogs. My next door neighbors have a pit bull factory and dogs are running around in their yard at all hours of the day and night, fighting with each other and they do. not. stop. barking.
I am afraid to call police with a nuisance call as these neighbors are also very tattooed and gangstery.
The neighborhood has sadly declined.
507 | J.S. Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:53:48am |
re: #505 reine.de.tout
There are an estimated 80,000 cats in Edmonton...The humane society here takes in cats (no questions asked, I believe)...There's also a by-law enforcement officer -- he rounds up feral or stray cats (those without a license); and if a cat does have a license, and the cat's caught off the owner's property, the owner could be fined. Basically, it keeps cats indoors. (There had been reports, though, about some cats being killed in west Edmonton -- the cats were apparently gruesomly tortured and killed. The police would not go into any details, just that the cats were not killed by coyotes.)
508 | Bagua Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:56:15am |
re: #439 Rightwingconspirator
I have an IT question-We have downsized the office quite a bit.
I must replace our "server". In 2002 it was installed with server 2000 software.Server is in quotes because there are only 3 of us who access it via our PC workstations. As I understand it 3 workstations accessing will not come close to triggering a need for dedicated server software. It's not easy to get an XP based PC new anymore. Vista is not an option.
Should I trust 7 to reliably get the job done and just by a fairly powerful workstation and let it be the server?
With three PC's why do you need a server? Presumably you need a file server to share files. You could simply put a second hard disk in one of the PCs and map it as a network drive that everyone shares. Alternatively, you could run a server in a virtual machine on one of the PCs.
Windows 7 has better sharing and syn capabilities. You can designate a network share that works offline and updates whenever it connects to the other PCs.
re: #451 ausador
Never buy a Microsoft product until at least one service pack has been released, good rule to live by.
That was true in the past, but Windows 7 is a different animal, it is good right out of the box. The only problems I've seen are the occasional program with a problem and the occasional driver issue. With the programs, it is possible to run XP mode if you have the right Win7 edition.
509 | Soundboard Fez Wed, Nov 4, 2009 9:56:33am |
re: #504 oldegeezr
Historical Democratic performance in NY-23:
1996: 26%
1998: 0%
2000: 19%
2002: 0%
2004: 29%
2006: 37%
2008: 35%
2009: 49%
That last number sorta jumps out. I'm sure it has nothing to do with carpetbaggers running in to bring TRVE CONSERVATISM to New York.
/s
510 | Ayeless in Ghazi Wed, Nov 4, 2009 1:35:09pm |
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