"If you don't live in the district, you don't vote there, your opinion doesn't matter very much,"

Glenn Beck wept.

re: #1 Sharmuta

Glenn Beck wept.

You betcha, also.

I'll have to say, this Steele guy sure is more interesting now than when he did that movie.

I'm not even sure how the kooks can spin this as a victory in NY 23. They lost. Centrist Americans are not going to elect theocratic-nativists now or ever. I certainly hope the Chairman of the party got the message loud and clear, because it doesn't seem the kookosphere gets it. They'll keep going until the entire structure of the party is in ruins.

Wait... Should I even turn my speakers on? Is he going to rap?

I think a lot of people (including Hoffman and many on the right) assumed that once Scozzofava dropped out, Hoffman was a shoo-in. In fact, it just seems to have clarified the choice for a lot of NY-23 voters. The moral? Be careful what you wish for.

re: #5 theheat

He's trying to Change the Game. :p

There's another video that I think is a suitable substitute for this...

There can be only one...

And it was filmed 250 miles south of NY-23.

Is it just me or did the wins yesterday give him some confidence? The last few times I have seen Steele he seemed tentative when speaking as if afraid he would say something wrong. This time he spoke crisply and didn't hesitate, he actually sounded like a party chairman and advocate.

I like this Steele a lot better than the old one.

Maybe he's growing into the job.

re: #6 arethusa

Some of the Scozzafava votes jumped to Owens particularly when she endorsed Owens and took the union support with her. Hoffman just didn't resonate with a majority of voters in the district, no matter that Hoffman had out of state backing.

It was the evil of three lessers, and they went with Owens. Don't expect a repeat in a year.

re: #10 cliffster

Maybe he's growing into the job.

He knows now that he can have the granola without the nuts.

re: #4 Sharmuta

Seriously this is the fight. Its on right now. Focusing "our" (I'm an Indy) grass roots inward, like the attentions here on this very blog, is at a point of fulcrum. Magnified leverage, but it's a real fight for the heart of the Republicans.

He sounds sane. Has he seen his website?

re: #5 theheat

Wait... Should I even turn my speakers on? Is he going to rap?

Uhh...was that really called for?

re: #6 arethusa

I think a lot of people (including Hoffman and many on the right) assumed that once Scozzofava dropped out, Hoffman was a shoo-in. In fact, it just seems to have clarified the choice for a lot of NY-23 voters. The moral? Be careful what you wish for.

A terrible, unknown, carpet bagger, non-national party affiliated candidate gets into the race less than 60 DAYS before the election, takes shots from both the Dem and Repub candidate and loses to the Dem by less than 3% of the vote. MAke no mistake about it. I have no empathy or zeal for Mr. Hoffman and his ilk, but you are really whistling past the graveyard if you think the totality of yeasterdays votes (NJ and Virginia) , INCLUDING a right leaning white woman leading the mayoral race in Atlanta Georgia is an abberation.
Perhaps the "moral" is the people DO speak!

re: #14 wrenchwench

He sounds sane. Has he seen his website?

I think he did, but I think it was the first website he had ever seen.

re: #15 ausador

Why, did you happen to miss his mo deffer badassery phase a few weeks ago? Pretty embarrassing.

re: #9 ausador

Is it just me or did the wins yesterday give him some confidence? The last few times I have seen Steele he seemed tentative when speaking as if afraid he would say something wrong. This time he spoke crisply and didn't hesitate, he actually sounded like a party chairman and advocate.

I like this Steele a lot better than the old one.

Same here. Let's see how we can spin his newfound voice as being the fault of Rush or Beck... or something... we just have to tie him into the wacky right wing or this day will be a bust.

re: #9 ausador

Is it just me or did the wins yesterday give him some confidence? The last few times I have seen Steele he seemed tentative when speaking as if afraid he would say something wrong. This time he spoke crisply and didn't hesitate, he actually sounded like a party chairman and advocate.

I like this Steele a lot better than the old one.

Perhaps it gave him some strength to see the purge tactics wouldn't work in New York. These people have done nothing since he took over the Chairmanship except to undermine him at every possible opportunity. He is the duly elected Chairman of the GOP, and no one seems interested in allowing him to be any sort of leader.

If Glenn Beck, or Sarah Palin, or Tim Pawlenty, or Rush Limbaugh want to lead a movement to victory- I suggest they either support their elected leader, run against him and try to do a better job at leading the party than they seem to feel he's done, or they could leave the party themselves since in all honesty they don't belong.

re: #17 Baier

I think he did, but I think it was the first website he had ever seen.

He wrote this on it today:

Because of your efforts, the Republican Party is once again a bottom-up party.

Maybe he needs an editor. Of course, I took that out of context. Here's the link.

re: #20 Sharmuta

Perhaps it gave him some strength to see the purge tactics wouldn't work in New York.

[snip]

And that would be a positive? Could be that even the Hoffmann lost will have turn into a teachable moment.

why doesn't this steele run in 2012? he seems like the only republican making any sense.

re: #16 sattv4u2

A terrible, unknown, carpet bagger, non-national party affiliated candidate gets into the race less than 60 DAYS before the election, takes shots from both the Dem and Repub candidate and loses to the Dem by less than 3% of the vote. MAke no mistake about it. I have no empathy or zeal for Mr. Hoffman and his ilk, but you are really whistling past the graveyard if you think the totality of yeasterdays votes (NJ and Virginia) , INCLUDING a right leaning white woman leading the mayoral race in Atlanta Georgia is an abberation.
Perhaps the "moral" is the people DO speak!

"Be careful what you wish for" meant a lot of people on the right wanted Scozzofava out so she wouldn't spoil the race for Hoffman. They got what they wanted, and it didn't work. And I never said yesterday's results were an aberration, did I?

re: #5 theheat

Wait... Should I even turn my speakers on? Is he going to rap?

If he does, he better kick it old school!

re: #22 Walter L. Newton

And that would be a positive? Could be that even the Hoffmann lost will have turn into a teachable moment.

It should be a teachable moment. Theocon nativists are not going to win elections. It is not "conservatism" and it is not what the party needs to turn to in order to win elections. It cost us an election. Try this nationally, and we will see dem gains in 2010.

re: #23 SpaceJesus

why doesn't this steele run in 2012? he seems like the only republican making any sense.

Two notes:

1) The last time he ran for office, your people (liberals) threw Oreos at him on stage for being a black Republican.

2) It really worries me about the future of this place when I see you getting updings. Before November of last year, you were our village idiot.

I think the basic idea is that there used to be a vote in NY-23 for card checks and the public option, and now there isn't. If this is a victory for progressives, it's a damned inconvenient one.

Fi-con's got a little bit, maybe not as much as they wanted, and so-con's came up about even. They gained nothing, they lost nothing. Mil-con's maybe came out the best, since both Owens and Scozzafava pledged support to the local military that Hoffman, so far as I know, was silent on.

Semi OT.

Fiorina jumps into high-profile California Senate race

*snip*

Fiorina, considered to be a moderate Republican with little history on social issues, will face off against conservative California Assemblyman Chuck DeVore for the GOP nomination.

Democrats are hoping for a GOP civil war, while trying to ignore the mess in their own backyard, with Obama ally Rep. Anthony Weiner (a Schumer protoge) wondering where Obama was to help Thompson in NYC in what now appears to have been a winnable campaign effort. The WH smacked back claiming Weiner should have run instead.

re: #27 Athens Runaway

2) It really worries me about the future of this place when I see you getting updings. Before November of last year, you were our village idiot.

SpaceJesus is our secret weapon in driving stalkers insane.

re: #31 Sharmuta

SpaceJesus is our secret weapon in driving stalkers insane.

And he's also quite funny.

re: #31 Sharmuta

SpaceJesus is our secret weapon in driving stalkers insane.

re: #32 reine.de.tout

And he's also quite funny.

Plus, if his karma gets near -1000, he pisses people off. Usually making fun of the South.

re: #33 Cannadian Club Akbar

Plus, if his karma gets near -1000, he pisses people off. Usually making fun of the South.

Wanting to give the South away, is what he does.
I've given up on that one, try to just go with the flow.

re: #29 Bubblehead II

From your link:
The hallmark of Carly Fiorina's résumé is her tenure at Hewlett-Packard, where she laid off 28,000 Americans while shipping jobs overseas, just before taking a $21 million golden parachute," National Senatorial Campaign Committee spokesman Eric Schultz said. "Given that record, the United States Senate is the last place Carly Fiorina should go next."

re: #34 reine.de.tout

I thought he wanted to sell it for $4. Technically, he wasn't suggesting we give it away. It was just a deep discount.

re: #35 Floral Giraffe

From your link:
The hallmark of Carly Fiorina's résumé is her tenure at Hewlett-Packard, where she laid off 28,000 Americans while shipping jobs overseas, just before taking a $21 million golden parachute," National Senatorial Campaign Committee spokesman Eric Schultz said. "Given that record, the United States Senate is the last place Carly Fiorina should go next."

She'd fit right in.

re: #35 Floral Giraffe

She also, if I recall correctly, killed off HP's calculator-making division. For that reason alone, she is my mortal enemy, my arch-nemesis with which I shall do battle until the end of all time.

(loves reverse-polish notation)

re: #34 reine.de.tout

Wanting to give the South away, is what he does.
I've given up on that one, try to just go with the flow.

Not giving it away- selling it for $4.

re: #36 theheat

re: #39 Sharmuta

I think there have been different plans at different times. The last one I saw, he wanted to give the South to China.

re: #39 Sharmuta

$4, and a velvet Jesus painting to sweeten the pot.

re: #41 theheat

$4, and a velvet Jesus painting to sweeten the pot.

Now, if he would add a sham-wow, and a snuggie, he'd have a sale in minutes.

re: #38 BlueFalcon

She also, if I recall correctly, killed off HP's calculator-making division. For that reason alone, she is my mortal enemy, my arch-nemesis with which I shall do battle until the end of all time.

(loves reverse-polish notation)

Apparently it didn't take.

re: #42 reine.de.tout

That might be pushing it. I think he's a harder negotiator than that.

re: #4 Sharmuta

I'm not even sure how the kooks can spin this as a victory in NY 23.

Go over to Malkin's site and receive your 'education'. I for one share your opinion on the matter. The folks there sure didn't get the message.

re: #41 theheat

$4, and a velvet Jesus painting to sweeten the pot.

But that's not all! We'll also throw in a George Foreman Grill.

re: #19 Walter L. Newton

Same here. Let's see how we can spin his newfound voice as being the fault of Rush or Beck... or something... we just have to tie him into the wacky right wing or this day will be a bust.

Oh I'm quite sure we can turn the thread into snide jokes about his (formerly known as 'What up') column space on the GOP website. The fact that he probably has absolutely to do with the site whatsoever except for being tasked with providing some column inches every now and then is beside the point.

He is a to be considered a walking ethnic joke, and parody of affirmative action, appointed solely to show that the GOP has blacks too after Obama was elected.

At least that seems to be some peoples opinion, I just wish they didn't feel quite so free to share it...

If I understand NY#23 correctly, Scuzzafuzza was not chosen in a democratic primary process, and neither was the third party candidate Hoffman. Then the 3rd party candidate was backed by the right wing of the GOP. Then the undemocratically-appointed GOP candidate quit and endorsed her Democrat opponent against the 3rd party candidate Hoffman. So what happened was that the GOP and the Dems got together and defeated the third party candidate. And this is being spun as a GOP victory.
Have I got this right?
*reaches for painkillers*

re: #46 Sharmuta

A Pocket Fisherman, and some of that spray on color that's supposed to look like hair, in Wayne Newton Black.

re: #45 Yashmak

Go over to Malkin's site and receive your 'education'. I for one share your opinion on the matter. The folks there sure didn't get the message.

Question - which came first?

Did Malkin's readers become attracted to her site because of the crazy, OR did were the readers/commenters crazy and Malkin responded to them?

re: #48 Spare O'Lake

Based on my limited reading on the matter, sounds like you've got it about right.

re: #47 ausador

Oh I'm quite sure we can turn the thread into snide jokes about his (formerly known as 'What up') column space on the GOP website. The fact that he probably has absolutely to do with the site whatsoever except for being tasked with providing some column inches every now and then is beside the point.

He is a to be considered a walking ethnic joke, and parody of affirmative action, appointed solely to show that the GOP has blacks too after Obama was elected.

At least that seems to be some peoples opinion, I just wish they didn't feel quite so free to share it...

Careful... careful... don't take a page out of the progressives playbook. They can share as much as they want.

re: #43 CyanSnowHawk

Apparently it didn't take.

OMG!!! RPN IS BACK FROM THE DEAD!!!

*sings Hallelujah Chorus*

And sooo affordable...

I mostly like what Steele has to say here. But I'll note his point about the candidate having been selected by the state Republican Party rings a little hollow; Steele is the national chairman, and needs to both take a leadership position that includes conferencing with those at the state level, and to own his party's failures as well as it's accomplishments. He's correct to defer to the local party leaders where appropriate, but he needs to do more than simply take the phone call announcing their decision. He needs to play a part in the whole decision making process to ensure that what's done at the local level helps leverage party goals at higher levels.

Although simply establishing high-level party goals still seems to be something that requires attention at this point.

re: #48 Spare O'Lake

please see #16

re: #50 reine.de.tout

Question - which came first?

Did Malkin's readers become attracted to her site because of the crazy, OR did were the readers/commenters crazy and Malkin responded to them?

Good question. I used to be a daily reader/commenter. There was a time when neither she, nor her readers/commenters seemed so crazy. I'm not what drove her to the edge, or her commenters so far over it. . . .but they're definitely feeding off each other now.

re: #56 Mike DeGuzman

Charles, do have any comments or spin on the Republican victories in New Jersey and Virginia? NY-23 seems to be your favorite discussion.

What's your spin?

re: #56 Mike DeGuzman

Charles, do have any comments or spin on the Republican victories in New Jersey and Virginia? NY-23 seems to be your favorite discussion.

Oops!

re: #53 BlueFalcon

OMG!!! RPN IS BACK FROM THE DEAD!!!

*sings Hallelujah Chorus*

And sooo affordable...

Us Raptors look out for each other.

re: #48 Spare O'Lake

If I understand NY#23 correctly, Scuzzafuzza was not chosen in a democratic primary process, and neither was the third party candidate Hoffman. Then the 3rd party candidate was backed by the right wing of the GOP. Then the undemocratically-appointed GOP candidate quit and endorsed her Democrat opponent against the 3rd party candidate Hoffman. So what happened was that the GOP and the Dems got together and defeated the third party candidate. And this is being spun as a GOP victory.
Have I got this right?
*reaches for painkillers*

Your not listening to the SPIN, pay attention and we will tell you what to think about it correctly!

re: #54 SixDegrees

. . . . He needs to play a part in the whole decision making process to ensure that what's done at the local level helps leverage party goals at higher levels. . . .

Although simply establishing high-level party goals still seems to be something that requires attention at this point.

This is what I have not seen him do, at any point. I agree with you that it needs doing, badly, and it's one reason (among others) that the party is so scattered and seemingly has no unifying goals.

re: #38 BlueFalcon

She also, if I recall correctly, killed off HP's calculator-making division. For that reason alone, she is my mortal enemy, my arch-nemesis with which I shall do battle until the end of all time.

(loves reverse-polish notation)

Same here. I've used HP calculators for nearly four decades now, and won't even consider anything else. The move to mass marketing, with HP calculators rack-hung in blister packs at Best Buy, was a real shock when my vintage 41G croaked after nearly 15 years of hard daily use.

Steele is going to have a tough couple of months.

He needs to recruit candidates for 2010. Ones that can win. That will mean fiscal conservative / socially moderate ones for the suburban districts with large independent numbers. Yesterday showed (empirically) that to be the winning combination.

The SoCon troglodytes are incapable of seeing any failure as anything but a sign from God that salvation and universal adoption of faith based politics is just around the corner.

So when Steele holds a conference call with a potential candidate for a swing district, he will be asked very pointedly "How the hell are you going to prevent me from getting hounded by some Hoffman / Glenn Beck candidate from the 'Conservative Party' with endorsements flowing from Republicans - people who are supposedly in my party?"

Steele will have to have a credible answer. Which means war on SoCon assholes who call people RINOs and then turn on the party in an instant.

Steele's statement today is in the right direction.

Faster please.

re: #59 Walter L. Newton

Oops!

ruh roh!

re: #59 Walter L. Newton

Oops!

Now now, he's asking a question, not telling Charles what to post. Even if he did step awfully close to that line.

re: #66 CyanSnowHawk

Now now, he's asking a question, not telling Charles what to post. Even if he did step awfully close to that line.

I know you're talking to Walter but "telling Charles what to post" isn't the problem. Asking someone for their "spin" is pretty rude.

re: #45 Yashmak

Go over to Malkin's site and receive your 'education'. I for one share your opinion on the matter. The folks there sure didn't get the message.

She's been spinning so hard over there since last night you could probably enrich uranium at her site. I hope Amadinijad isn't a reader.

re: #66 CyanSnowHawk

Now now, he's asking a question, not telling Charles what to post. Even if he did step awfully close to that line.

Like Glenn Beck - he's just asking questions

re: #65 sattv4u2

ruh roh!

I know, I know... it's White Fang, the dog paw that was on the Soupy Sales Show when I was a kid.

re: #63 SixDegrees

Same here. I've used HP calculators for nearly four decades now, and won't even consider anything else. The move to mass marketing, with HP calculators rack-hung in blister packs at Best Buy, was a real shock when my vintage 41G croaked after nearly 15 years of hard daily use.

My 48SX is still going strong after mumble-mumble years that included most of my Engineering schooling.

OT
CNN broadcast live President Obama's remarks regarding education reform in Madison, Wisconsin..It was an inspiring speech...especially about the need for parents to set high standards for achievements for their children (that getting a passing mark isn't enough, it's about setting a higher bar and getting children to want to learn more...to pursue knowledge for a love of learning...)

the thing about Steele is that he'll probably take flack from the teabag crowd for these comments, and then come out and 'clarify' them (aka: cave). Howard deen strikes me as miserable prick, but he at least seemed to kno how 2 run a party.

re: #64 karmic_inquisitor

Steele is going to have a tough couple of months.

He needs to recruit candidates for 2010. Ones that can win. That will mean fiscal conservative / socially moderate ones for the suburban districts with large independent numbers. Yesterday showed (empirically) that to be the winning combination.

The SoCon troglodytes are incapable of seeing any failure as anything but a sign from God that salvation and universal adoption of faith based politics is just around the corner.

So when Steele holds a conference call with a potential candidate for a swing district, he will be asked very pointedly "How the hell are you going to prevent me from getting hounded by some Hoffman / Glenn Beck candidate from the 'Conservative Party' with endorsements flowing from Republicans - people who are supposedly in my party?"

Steele will have to have a credible answer. Which means war on SoCon assholes who call people RINOs and then turn on the party in an instant.

Steele's statement today is in the right direction.

Faster please.

Have you seen the declared candidates listings? Most of the Republican senate races have seven or eight announced candidates already. Steele isn't going to be picking candidates, he is going to be trying to decide which ones he should back based on the polls. The primary races for 2010 on our side are going to be epic unless half of them drop out.

Shiny pate there Mr. Steele.

No Whig there however.

re: #71 CyanSnowHawk

My 48SX is still going strong after mumble-mumble years that included most of my Engineering schooling.

I lucked out. I guess the original 50G - their current top-of-the-line - sucked like a Hoover, with a crappy keyboard and countless software problems. They basically tried to turn it into a TI, but cheaper and shittier. Customer response was so alarmingly bad that they backpedaled and reworked the whole machine - I think they may have even extended hefty discounts to buyers of the earlier models.

Not sure what took place under Carly's watch, but I know she was responsible for severely cheapening the line originally.

Am I hallucinating right now, or did Michael Steele manage to actually answer an entire question at a press conference without making a complete fool of himself?

re: #66 CyanSnowHawk

Now now, he's asking a question, not telling Charles what to post. Even if he did step awfully close to that line.

Hi Cyan. Yeah, at first glance I did what Walter did: oops. Second read - close to the line perhaps, but not a jump into the abyss.

It seems to me that Charles doesn't have any problem with folks asking if it might be possible to cover a particular topic. He seems to either say "that may be an interesting subject" or "nah, it's covered elsewhere" or "not really appropriate for this blog". No sarcasm or anything.

But, when people post stuff like, "I've been a poster here for almost fifteen minutes now, and I don't think you're covering (fill in the blank) enough. Get with the program."

Well, as the owner of the blog, Charles has every right to respond with "say hello to my leetle friend!"

re: #67 bosforus
Good point. The "spin" got mixed with the "comment" and came out on the "comment" side.
re: #69 cliffster

Like Glenn Beck - he's just asking questions

Don't let the stupid questions disallow valid ones.

Top Bachmann aide quits

A conservative Republican House member, speaking on the condition of anonymity, suggested that Bachman’s views – and her willingness to state them – make it hard for her to keep staff.

"When your captain's crazy, it's time to find a new ship,” the lawmaker said.

Heh.

re: #48 Spare O'Lake

Basically, the "further to the right" candidates will be acting as spoilers (if there are three candidates running -- basically splitting the Republican vote, and ensuring a Democrat wins.) (I don't believe there were exit polls for the upstate NY riding -- it'll be interesting to see where the Independent voters threw their support...)

What up, Mikey?

re: #48 Spare O'Lake

Dede was chosen according to procedures laid out for special elections in the Constitution of New York, which I'm pretty sure we'd all agree is a 'democratic' document, so therefore she was chosen fairly. the right wing refused to support her, so she lost. and the dem won. period. that's what happened.

it would have been interesting to see if Owens wouldve won even sans the dede endorsement. I think its very likely.

re: #38 BlueFalcon

(loves reverse-polish notation)

Isn't that when the Soviets invaded in '39 and forced eastern Poland to switch to Cyrillic?

"Vast economic discontent marked the mood of Tuesday's off-year voters, portending potential trouble for incumbents generally and Democrats in particular in 2010. Still the gubernatorial elections in Virginia and New Jersey looked less like a referendum on Barack Obama than a reflection of their own candidates and issues."

Ok... what am I missing? I been told by the administration that the recession is over, that jobs are being created or saved or in the least, not counted yet and there are hundreds of shovels ready for something (to bury the evidence... I don't know?)

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

Oh... oh... never mind my comment above... I had to search hard, but I found my answer..

"From our perspective, we won last night," (Pelosi).

[Link: www.politico.com...]

Whew... for a second I almost believed the mainstream media. (I've always liked circuses).

re: #80 Killgore Trout

Top Bachmann aide quits

Heh.

Shouldn't that aide be strapped to a pole and burned at the stake for heresy immediately?

Or maybe Bachmann will let her keep her job, and just make her wear a yellow armband so her views are more readily apparent.

re: #77 drcordell

Am I hallucinating right now, or did Michael Steele manage to actually answer an entire question at a press conference without making a complete fool of himself?

Yes , and Yes
/

I'm as in tune with dog whistle racism as anyone else these days but...
New Business-Group Ad Has Racial Undertones, Union Alleges
... I don't see it.

re: #77 drcordell

Am I hallucinating right now, or did Michael Steele manage to actually answer an entire question at a press conference without making a complete fool of himself?

You're hallucinating... go back to sleep... we'll call you for the next referendum.

re: #85 Walter L. Newton

Pelosi and Hoffman - two sides of the same coin.

re: #86 SixDegrees

Also I think Bachman' sseat is in danger. She probably won't be around after midterms.

Good afternoon, lizards!

Jim DeMint just committed political suicide.
The far right, of course, is going to trumpet him as a true conservative hero.

U.S. Senate finally passes unemployment extension bill

WASHINGTON — The U.S. Senate on Wednesday easily cleared the last procedural barrier standing in the way of passing legislation to extend unemployment insurance benefits as long as 20 weeks nationwide.

The count was 97 to one, with Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.) the only lawmaker to oppose the measure.

The lopsided vote clears the way for final passage of the bill, which, without the consent of Republicans, could take place Thursday morning, at the earliest. There are murmurs on Capitol Hill, however, that an agreement on final passage might happen today.

The bill extends unemployment benefits by at least 14 weeks in all states, with an addition six weeks provided in the 27 states where unemployment rates have topped 8.5 percent. The benefits would not be retroactive, meaning that those whose benefits expired (or will expire) before the president signs the bill won’t be eligible for back-pay to fill the gap.

Bastards.

Of course they're not going to provide retroactive payments, so that people can get caught up on their utility bills and rent, or pull their homes out of foreclosure. They just tack the extra weeks on at the end of a recipients' benefit period and hope that they don't end up having to pay it out.

I'm curious about the laws concerning unemployment benefits and retroactive payments. The state of Michigan did this to me a while back, when they had to make a minor re-determination on my current claim. It took them six damned weeks to do a simple re-determination, and I went for a month and a half without income waiting for my benefits to kick back in. They didn't pay even a single week of retro pay.

re: #80 Killgore Trout

Top Bachmann aide quits

Heh.

From your link:

“She looks like the type of person who you would invite in to have a cup of coffee at your table,” Marston said at the time.

May I suggest decaf.

re: #68 SixDegrees

She's been spinning so hard over there since last night you could probably enrich uranium at her site. I hope Amadinijad isn't a reader.

Lol No joke. When I noted that the loss of a district held this long by Republicans gives the Dems yet another seat to ram through stuff like their Health Care, Cap & Trade, or whatever, the response I got was the completely non-sequitur:

"Do you think it would've been better of Scozz won"?

The point, of course, is that it couldn't have been any worse.

Steele: Reports Of Ideological Division In GOP Are "Phony"
Wrong!

re: #81 J.S.

Basically, the "further to the right" candidates will be acting as spoilers (if there are three candidates running -- basically splitting the Republican vote, and ensuring a Democrat wins.) (I don't believe there were exit polls for the upstate NY riding -- it'll be interesting to see where the Independent voters threw their support...)

They will be running as Republicans in their states primaries for the most part, so all the messy stuff will be over by halfway thru August. Of course after they get done slinging mud and calling each other commies and (gasp) liberals they will have weakened the winners position against the Dems. They only have two or three months to recover from the primary battle and the general election date.

We will be running a lot of exhausted, wounded, and broke candidates in 2010 if the Tea Party makes good on their pledge to disrupt the primaries.

re: #88 Killgore Trout

I've seen that ad -- I thought (when I watched the ad -- before reading that Huff piece) that the black fellow was thinking: "Am I next?" (that's is, next in line to be let go and that the black fellow looked worried...) (I didn't catch the racist angle.)

re: #76 SixDegrees

Fiorina is encountering some sharp elbows on the right...

...and the left...!

re: #90 cliffster

Pelosi and Hoffman - two sides of the same coin.

I would say Pelosi and Gingrich are two sides of the same coin. people like Hoffman are on a whole nother plane (planet, more like) entirely. Pelosi is a left winger but did you see her pushing Obama to pick the blue dog Chet Edwards from Crawford, tx as his veep last year?

re: #91 Killgore Trout

Also I think Bachman' sseat is in danger. She probably won't be around after midterms.

It's that habit of making her eyes go in circles in opposite directions at the same time. It's really disturbing.

re: #92 Irish Rose

Jim DeMint just committed political suicide.

I don't think so. He was the only no vote so it goes ahead anyways. The Wingnuts are taking advantage of being irrelevant because they don't have to suffer any consequences. Remember when Palin, Jindal and a few other governors decide to reject stimulus money? The got wingnut praise for the rejection but they were all overruled by their state senates and were forced to accept the stimulus money anyways. It's win/win for them.

re: #83 rollwave87

I think we have a reminder here that procedures matter-Primaries, and if they are open or not. Those details the average voter is blissfully ignorant of since civics class.

re: #97 J.S.

I've seen that ad -- I thought (when I watched the ad -- before reading that Huff piece) that the black fellow was thinking: "Am I next?" (that's is, next in line to be let go and that the black fellow looked worried...) (I didn't catch the racist angle.)

Yeah, me too. Also if you reverse the ethnicity of the actors it doesn't change the feel of the commercial. I can't see a problem with it either.

re: #93 wrenchwench

Her big event is on capital hill tomorrow. It should be lots of fun. I'm looking forward to it.

re: #103 Killgore Trout

Yeah...(actually, if they'd fired the black guy first, the makers of the ad would probably have also had charges of racism to deal with...)

re: #71 CyanSnowHawk

My brother gave me an HP 48G. I love the thing.

re: #106 Ojoe

My brother gave me an HP 48G. I love the thing.

I bet you whigged out over it?

re: #91 Killgore Trout

“...A conservative Republican House member, speaking on the condition of anonymity, suggested that Bachman’s views – and her willingness to state them – make it hard for her to keep staff.
"When your captain's crazy, it's time to find a new ship,” the lawmaker said. “

Now, here's another wholesome conservative family values gal the GOP can really get behind: Prejean Sex Tape Triggers Settlement.

If it's true, her good buddy and defender Sarah's going to be just so doggone proud. You betchya.

re: #107 Walter L. Newton

Yes. I used it to calculate catenary curves and beam deflections. Still do.

re: #110 Ojoe

In bed?

re: #88 Killgore Trout

I'm as in tune with dog whistle racism as anyone else these days but...
New Business-Group Ad Has Racial Undertones, Union Alleges
... I don't see it.

The article spells it out quite well. A black colleague watches as a white coworker is summoned to the office to be fired. Which of course means that the black colleague is obviously being favored because of his race and not that he might have more seniority or be a better worker. HOW COULD YOU NOT SEE THAT?

Racist Dog.
///

I suppose these commercials will have to be done with the Blue Man Group now.

re: #101 Killgore Trout

Don’t forget Sanford and Perry..?

re: #110 Ojoe

Yes. I used it to calculate catenary curves and beam deflections. Still do.

I used mine to level my bed... had a bad leg on one side.

re: #111 lawhawk

In bed?

Just be glad he doesn't use the Direct Stiffness Method.

re: #103 Killgore Trout

There is lots of racial hypersensitivity aimed at hurting the right of center politician, pundit, party, or individual. I'm trying to coin a phrase that would be the opposite of dog whistle racism. Hmmm.We can thank RSM for setting that up for us, being the racist the left can label the right wing with!

re: #110 Ojoe

I've had it a long time. But I think only at a desk have I used the thing, and at the kitchen table. And at scout camp, explaining engineering for a badge.

More scenes from NY 23!!

re: #114 Walter L. Newton

You couldn't use a wig for that, it would compress.

A couple videos from Iran...
Shiraz Police Beating a Woman Against the Wall

Iranian Stormtroopers Attack

re: #118 Fenway_Nation

A rowdy town, alright. Looks like a place where you'd find rusty farm implements.

re: #120 Killgore Trout

A couple videos from Iran...
Shiraz Police Beating a Woman Against the Wall

[Video]

Fucking cowards.

re: #121 theheat

No Jennifer Tilly?
/

BTW lizards, what does it say about a man when he wears a tie covered with gargantuan polka dots?

re: #122 Cannadian Club Akbar

Too bad she was not armed.

re: #83 rollwave87

Dede was chosen according to procedures laid out for special elections in the Constitution of New York, which I'm pretty sure we'd all agree is a 'democratic' document, so therefore she was chosen fairly. the right wing refused to support her, so she lost. and the dem won. period. that's what happened.

it would have been interesting to see if Owens wouldve won even sans the dede endorsement. I think its very likely.

2 questions - 1 moot and 1 real:
1. If there had been a GOP primary who would have won the nomination?
2. Did Dede step down rather than continue because she would have split the Dem vote and allowed Hoffman to win?

re: #123 Fenway_Nation

On a tractor, maybe.

Actually, listening to the entire excerpt posted by Charles, Steele, other than his statement at the beginning, spent most of his time criticizing the New York Republican party for not having a primary election. What I heard implied was that Scozzafava wouldn't have been selected by NY-23 Republican party primary voters in an election.

re: #124 Irish Rose

BTW lizards, what does it say about a man when he wears a tie covered with gargantuan polka dots?

He's quite brave?

The party needs to make a choice, will we be the angry teaparty rabble party run by radio talkshow hosts? If so, then what will happen when the talkshow hosts fail to keep the rabble angry and outraged? They will turn on you.

Do you want the party to be run by a bunch of one issue angry Freeper types? Because, if you do, its all over, marginalizing yourself is not a strategy for attracting the majority.

re: #124 Irish Rose

BTW lizards, what does it say about a man when he wears a tie covered with gargantuan polka dots?

It means he needs more closet light when he gets dressed in the morning.

re: #124 Irish Rose

BTW lizards, what does it say about a man when he wears a tie covered with gargantuan polka dots?

That he loves his kids who gave it to him for father's day?

re: #124 Irish Rose

BTW lizards, what does it say about a man when he wears a tie covered with gargantuan polka dots?

He lost the paintball skirmish?

re: #124 Irish Rose

BTW lizards, what does it say about a man when he wears a tie covered with gargantuan polka dots?

That he's a clown?

As for the questions about the NJ and VA governor's races raised in #59 above, both Republican candidates distanced themselves from Sarah Palin and did not campaign as fire-breathing conservatives like Hoffman did in NY-23. In New Jersey Corzine had lots of personal negatives, and Christie, to his credit, ran a good race even in the face of a moderate Republican "independent" candidate.

re: #124 Irish Rose

BTW lizards, what does it say about a man when he wears a tie covered with gargantuan polka dots?

That there's no light in his closet?

re: #109 theheat

Now, here's another wholesome conservative family values gal the GOP can really get behind: Prejean Sex Tape Triggers Settlement.

If it's true, her good buddy and defender Sarah's going to be just so doggone proud. You betchya.

Having a sex scandal worked out okay for Venessa Williams...

re: #131 bosforus

gmta

re: #136 sattv4u2

That there's no light in his closet?

Hey, no stealing!
see #131

re: #132 charlz

Where's NJDHockeyfan? I actually met Rob Niedemayer once...one of the first things I did was make fun of his pastel-colored tie. He explained that it was a Father's Day gift...

/Obviously this was off-ice, otherwise he wouldn't be wearing the tie and I'd be typing this through 2 or 3 less teeth.

re: #134 Honorary Yooper

That he's a clown?

You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little fucked up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to fuckin' amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?

re: #137 Sharmuta

Having a sex scandal worked out okay for Venessa Williams...

And Bill Clinton ,, and Marv Albert ,,, and Barney Frank ,,, and ,,,

re: #124 Irish Rose
It says he's following the basic rule - two solids, one non-solid, among suit, shirt, and tie. Color coordination looks OK too.

And besides, its the words that are important, not the manner of dress.

re: #139 bosforus

Hey, no stealing!
see #131

That there's no light in his closet?

Proof of fascism: Brainwashing

re: #141 CyanSnowHawk

You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little fucked up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to fuckin' amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?

Goodfellas

re: #132 charlz

That he loves his kids who gave it to him for father's day?

OT: thanks for the updings! I actually have several ties that are not quite the style I would buy on my own but the kids always notice when I wear one they bought. I should never have said purple is my favorite color...

re: #137 Sharmuta

Vanessa Williams had talent to fall back on, and hadn't pissed off the gay community that make up a large portion of the pageant base, nor had she tried to appear all-so-virtuous about revealing tittay photos as Prajean did. Vanessa got busted bigtime for sexy girl-on-girl photos, lost her crown, took her lumps, and accepted responsibility. Her talent earned her everything else.

re: #109 theheat

Now, here's another wholesome conservative family values gal the GOP can really get behind: Prejean Sex Tape Triggers Settlement.

If it's true, her good buddy and defender Sarah's going to be just so doggone proud. You betchya.

Woah. Looks like she got herself into a dilly of a pickle there.

re: #126 Spare O'Lake

2 questions - 1 moot and 1 real:
1. If there had been a GOP primary who would have won the nomination?
2. Did Dede step down rather than continue because she would have split the Dem vote and allowed Hoffman to win?

Both are excellent questions, and I don't have a good answer for either of them.

1) I can speculate that Scozzafava may have won the nomination, and Hoffman would not have gotten into it since the primary process was circumvented because of the special election nature of this race. He got in because of dissatisfaction with Scozzafava's selection. Had there been a primary, the GOP in the district would have voted for their preference. Instead, it was handed to them from the party leaders.

2) She stepped down because she saw that her polling was cratering and she didn't have the money to burn on her campaign. It is possible that she was playing triangle offense to go after the conservatives who pushed Hoffman by throwing her support to Owens to thwart a conservative candidate winning, but I don't think they were playing politics on that level. I think she got angry and decided to spite the GOP and conservatives in one lump sum.

Wow ...

The spin cycle was on extra rinse today on all fronts ...

re: #149 bosforus

I am wondering if the tape was stolen or??? Ex boyfriend?

re: #149 bosforus

Woah. Looks like she got herself into a dilly of a pickle there.

Yeah, how dare she answer the question she was asked in an honest manner. She should have just been like Miss South Carolina and went for what she thought the judge was looking for.

/

re: #145 Killgore Trout

Proof of fascism: Brainwashing

It's a little creepy how Obama's eyes turned out- with his hand in mid-air like that. What a great picture.

re: #152 Rightwingconspirator

Rule to live by: never tape yourself having sex if you don't want anyone else to see it. It's a skeleton that hates living in the closet.

re: #109 theheat

I guess the question now is, how'd the tape get out?

re: #154 Sharmuta

It's a little creepy how Obama's eyes turned out- with his hand in mid-air like that. What a great picture.

Who the heck gets the name of a political leader shaved into their forehead? I think that a lot of people take their Obama love a bit far.

re: #155 theheat

Agreed.

re: #156 bosforus

Better question: why did it get made in the first place starring Little Miss Sunshine? Forced at gunpoint? I think not.

re: #157 Athens Runaway

Hair? No big deal. Have you seen the tattoos? Set your google image content filter to at least moderate if you are at work!

[Link: images.google.com...]

re: #145 Killgore Trout

Proof of fascism: Brainwashing

all politics is brainwashing...to bad the kid doesn't know it yet

re: #159 theheat

Her opposition to gay marriage means she can only have a boring sex life?

re: #153 Athens Runaway

Yeah, how dare she answer the question she was asked in an honest manner. She should have just been like Miss South Carolina and went for what she thought the judge was looking for.

/

That's not what I'm saying at all. I have no problem with her honesty.

re: #109 theheat

Now, here's another wholesome conservative family values gal the GOP can really get behind: Prejean Sex Tape Triggers Settlement.

If it's true, her good buddy and defender Sarah's going to be just so doggone proud. You betchya.

The old, "I stand for upright morals and Christian behavior, I just don't practice them," story ehh?

re: #152 Rightwingconspirator

I am wondering if the tape was stolen or??? Ex boyfriend?

These are things we have a right to know, TMZ should get off their lazy asses and release the tape!

re: #156 bosforus

I guess the question now is, how'd the tape get out?

Pure speculation, but the stills that caused her so much trouble came straight from the photographer who took them and coached her. I haven't seen the video, but I'd guess the primary suspect would be the filmmaker - if whoever was working the camera deserves a long, multi-syllable title like that.

To be frank, Ms. Prejean strikes me as someone who possesses what an awful lot of models do - stupidity in abundance. "Yeah, baby, this'll make you a star!" gets bought into by a huge number of such, who either don't know or don't care that the guy working the lens is just trying to get a teenager's top off. Or more.

re: #157 Athens Runaway

Who the heck gets the name of a political leader shaved into their forehead? I think that a lot of people take their Obama love a bit far.

What if it had been, say, Kobe Bryant shaved into his head?

re: #165 RogueOne

And from the way TMZ worded matters, it doesn't show Prejean with a partner, but rather engaging in a solo act. That only adds to the intrigue of how this tape surfaced.

re: #157 Athens Runaway

Who the heck gets the name of a political leader shaved into their forehead? I think that a lot of people take their Obama love a bit far.

Uh, a black kid who's really into the idea of a black president? It's a junior high school student. When i was in jr. high I was wearing Motley Crue shirts and drawing occult sigils on my arm with a sharpie in algebra class. We're not talking about someone who's 40 here. ;-)

re: #165 RogueOne

If it was sold by her for porn, fine. NOT if its stolen or mis (miss?) :) appropriated.

re: #74 ausador

Have you seen the declared candidates listings? Most of the Republican senate races have seven or eight announced candidates already. Steele isn't going to be picking candidates, he is going to be trying to decide which ones he should back based on the polls. The primary races for 2010 on our side are going to be epic unless half of them drop out.

Senate races are intrinsically different from house races and state races. You are right that the nature of the Senate races (and the egos involved - every member of the Senate and every person aspiring to the Senate is absolutely certain that he/she would be a great POTUS) has the national party doing little until the general election.

If you want to thwart the Democrats it is the house that you are focused on because there are so many swing districts with freshman Dems in play. Many vulnerable seats. Those are the kinds of races I was thinking about.

re: #167 cliffster

What if it had been, say, Kobe Bryant shaved into his head?

See, you get it. :-)

re: #4 Sharmuta

I'm not even sure how the kooks can spin this as a victory in NY 23. They lost. Centrist Americans are not going to elect theocratic-nativists now or ever. I certainly hope the Chairman of the party got the message loud and clear, because it doesn't seem the kookosphere gets it. They'll keep going until the entire structure of the party is in ruins.

Today Pelosi spoke of their "good day" yesterday. Because of NY 23.

I'm getting kinda dizzy.

re: #161 albusteve

I linked this for you yesterday, but wasn't sure if you saw it. Thought you'd like the jam near the end.

re: #162 Rightwingconspirator

How many Christian porn tapes can you name off the top of your head? Is that a section of the video store I haven't seen yet, or are these only available at Christian book stores?

Most people have sex. Fewer people tape it. Even fewer people taping it claim to be virtuous Christians, as she had.

re: #167 cliffster

What if it had been, say, Kobe Bryant shaved into his head?

Would you find this normal behavior if the name in the kid's hair was "PALIN" or "BACHMANN"?

I'd say it was crazy in that case, and crazy in this case.

re: #157 Athens Runaway

Who the heck gets the name of a political leader shaved into their forehead? I think that a lot of people take their Obama love a bit far.

That is one hairy forehead!

re: #168 lawhawk

And from the way TMZ worded matters, it doesn't show Prejean with a partner, but rather engaging in a solo act. That only adds to the intrigue of how this tape surfaced.

I'm guessing it'll take about 24 hours for these questions to be answered/leaked.

re: #177 Spare O'Lake

That is one hairy forehead!

Sorry, I meant head and said forehead. Dumb dumb dumb

"If you don't live in the district you opinion doesn't count"

-Michael Steele

ahem, Hoffmanndoes not live in the district...

Charles is listening to Regina Spektor.

Bitchin'!

She's fantastic!

re: #175 theheat

How many Christian porn tapes can you name off the top of your head? Is that a section of the video store I haven't seen yet, or are these only available at Christian book stores?

Most people have sex. Fewer people tape it. Even fewer people taping it claim to be virtuous Christians, as she had.

Not all filmed sex is porn. The contents of the tape have yet to be revealed, from what I've read.

re: #88 Killgore Trout

I'm as in tune with dog whistle racism as anyone else these days but...
New Business-Group Ad Has Racial Undertones, Union Alleges
... I don't see it.

Wow, Just watched it. Having worked on commercials definitely some dog whistle in there. They show the boss hard at work and struggling. Then having to call in one of his employees that he has to fire. His three employees a white man, a white woman, and a black man. The white man gets summoned into the office taps the black man as he goes by there is a two shot of the black man and the white woman, then slyly cuts to a single of the black man looking on as the white man gets fired.

To know anything about commercial directing and casting is that you're telling a story in 30 seconds a lingering angle, a cut, the casting is very much on purpose.

re: #179 Athens Runaway

Sorry, I meant head and said forehead. Dumb dumb dumb

Obama can make anyone's head spin.

I get the impression tht Steele is feeling his oats and ready to come out swinging and no longer have to bow and scrape to Rush Limbaugh.

It goes too far to call this a "victory", but it could have a positive outcome for the fortunes of the Republican party.

re: #169 WindUpBird

Uh, a black kid who's really into the idea of a black president? It's a junior high school student. When i was in jr. high I was wearing Motley Crue shirts and drawing occult sigils on my arm with a sharpie in algebra class. We're not talking about someone who's 40 here. ;-)

first, Obama is not black, he just identifies himself that way...second, Obama is not an entertainer (debatable I guess)...and third, sadly statistically this kid has a very strong possibility to be standing in line with his hand out ten years from now if his strong identification with Obama, and therefore liberal politics continues to seed his mind

re: #178 bosforus

They'd be pretty dumb to leak a tape they admit they had. I believe you can get your pants sued off for that. Usually, though, copies find their way into the hands of people with nothing to lose. They have a way of growing legs and going all sorts of places.

re: #175 theheat

How many Christian porn tapes can you name off the top of your head? Is that a section of the video store I haven't seen yet, or are these only available at Christian book stores?

Most people have sex. Fewer people tape it. Even fewer people taping it claim to be virtuous Christians, as she had.

But apparently there is a market for (NSFW) that sort of thing. Link NSFW, nor safe for any Christian that can't see the humor in something that is really quite offensive against Christianity.

re: #174 Sharmuta

I linked this for you yesterday, but wasn't sure if you saw it. Thought you'd like the jam near the end.

oh boy!...listening now, thanks mucho

re: #188 CyanSnowHawk

Ugh. That's icky.

re: #190 theheat

Ugh. That's icky.

Yes, it is.

re: #175 theheat

You might be surprised at Christian sexuality, particularly within married couples. Of course some folks are shocked, just shocked to hear there are Christian heavy metal bands. So I guess its about how strict a standard you think applies, even in the criticism of a person.

Look IF that tape was stolen, her rights were violated. Regardless of any opinion she holds. I'm a bit uncomfortable lowering standards just because of unpopularity-Justified or not. That's my point, I'm no supporter of her in particular. I'm coming from a bigger picture standpoint.

re: #187 theheat

They'd be pretty dumb to leak a tape they admit they had. I believe you can get your pants sued off for that. Usually, though, copies find their way into the hands of people with nothing to lose. They have a way of growing legs and going all sorts of places.

Right. I didn't mean that the committee or TMZ would leak it. I meant anybody with the knowledge.

re: #176 Athens Runaway

Would you find this normal behavior if the name in the kid's hair was "PALIN" or "BACHMANN"?

I'd say it was crazy in that case, and crazy in this case.

You are wrong. It's not crazy. IT'S IMPORTANT TO THAT KID. He's also sitting right in front of Obama. Whoa! He's excited to meet the president? No way, he just crazy!

Just for fun: The five best Ronald Reagan tattoos on the internet.

Uh-oh...CNN's Jeffrey Toobin is saying that the 23 convicted CIA operatives (in Italy) spells big trouble for the US...

re: #182 bosforus

No, I suppose watching elephants on Nat Geo doesn't count as porn. The neighbor's cows in the field do it, and I don't think it's porn. But most sex tapes with people are considered porn, if only soft core porn. I suppose instructional tapes wouldn't be. I doubt, however, most of those tapes star girls that claim to be bible-loving Christians.

re: #185 ralphieboy

I get the impression tht Steele is feeling his oats and ready to come out swinging and no longer have to bow and scrape to Rush Limbaugh.

It goes too far to call this a "victory", but it could have a positive outcome for the fortunes of the Republican party.

It was an overall victory - after the sweep in Virginia and the win in New Jersey. NY-23 was a loss.

re: #189 albusteve

oh boy!...listening now, thanks mucho

Hope you like it.

re: #154 Sharmuta

It's a little creepy how Obama's eyes turned out- with his hand in mid-air like that. What a great picture.

I think that has to be the best brainwashing pic yet.

re: #199 Killgore Trout

Totally.

re: #194 WindUpBird

You are wrong. It's not crazy. IT'S IMPORTANT TO THAT KID. He's also sitting right in front of Obama. Whoa! He's excited to meet the president? No way, he just crazy!

Just for fun: The five best Ronald Reagan tattoos on the internet.

black presidents are fine with me, but politically I think Obama is a terrible role model...from a pure social idol standpoint I'd rather see him carve COSBY into his hair, but I've said enough already

re: #198 Sharmuta

Hope you like it.

imagine where he will be ten years from now?...but I hope he never gets away from his blues shreddin roots...he's just an awesome talent and can play anything, and does

re: #199 Killgore Trout

I think that has to be the best brainwashing pic yet.

it's a good one, maybe the best so far...there just has to be one even a little better tho

Testing something.

re: #202 albusteve

Glad you liked it. :)

re: #194 WindUpBird

You are wrong. It's not crazy. IT'S IMPORTANT TO THAT KID. He's also sitting right in front of Obama. Whoa! He's excited to meet the president? No way, he just crazy!

Just for fun: The five best Ronald Reagan tattoos on the internet.

If you can't see the difference between kids getting the president's name shaved into their hair (hero worship) and people getting silly tattoos (people being stupid), then we'll just agree to disagree.

In the end, the kid's adoration matters naught. It's just another data point in a line, is all.

/waiting to get called a racist

re: #201 albusteve

black presidents are fine with me, but politically I think Obama is a terrible role model...from a pure social idol standpoint I'd rather see him carve COSBY into his hair, but I've said enough already

"My name is Steve, and I approve of black presidents."

;)

Haven't seen Stinky in a while. Hope things are going well for ya.

re: #71 CyanSnowHawk

My 48SX is still going strong after mumble-mumble years that included most of my Engineering schooling.

I still have my HP48GX on my desk at work and use it often. I got it in 1992.

re: #201 albusteve

Kids these days don't respect 72 year old comedians anymore! They're all into the gangster's hippity hop! Whatever happened to getting Don Rickles' name shaved into your chest hair?

/AndyRooney

re: #207 cliffster

"My name is Steve, and I approve of black presidents."

;)

it opens the door for green presidents...a good thing

re: #193 bosforus

Right. I didn't mean that the committee or TMZ would leak it. I meant anybody with the knowledge.

It is a digital file, everyone has at least one close friend he simply has to share it with for bragging rights, "Ha I have Prejean porn!" Of course that close friend also has a close friend or two and so on and so forth until about a thousand people have the damn thing and someone finally sends it to TMZ.

These things always get out if they ever once make it out of the models/owners/participants personal harddrive or DVD disc.

re: #186 albusteve

first, Obama is not black, he just identifies himself that way...

If he wasn't Barack Obama the President, and instead say Barack Obama the carjacker. When the police asked you for a description (height, weight, age, race) what would you tell them?

second, Obama is not an entertainer (debatable I guess)...

Sooo it would be better if the kid wanted to emulate an entertainer rather than the President of the United States? You may not agree with his politics, but I think most of us would agree that it would be a good thing for more kids to say "Hey I think I will study hard, and get good grades and grow up and maybe get a scholarship to Harvard so I can be like the President." Rather than "Hey, I hope I can grow to be 6'6 with cat like reflexes so I can have cheerleaders do my homework and can drop out of college and go to the NBA."

and third, sadly statistically this kid has a very strong possibility to be standing in line with his hand out ten years from now if his strong identification with Obama, and therefore liberal politics continues to seed his mind

Yeah, because that's where Obama ended up, right?

re: #204 Stinky Beaumont

Shit! It's scary enough when Charles says that. I think I'm gonna hide under the desk for a little while.
/

re: #211 albusteve

it opens the door for green presidents...a good thing

How do you expect a Vulcan to play to the emotions of the voter base in the way that is needed now to even get the nomination, let alone elected?
/

re: #214 Slumbering Behemoth

No, it's scary when a nuclear physicist says, "testing something"

re: #213 TheQuis

Yeah, because that's where Obama ended up, right?

you make me sleepy...it's not something I want to argue

re: #216 cliffster

No, it's scary when a nuclear physicist says, "testing something"

Or when you hear from the cockpit "What a piece of junk!"

re: #206 Athens Runaway

If you can't see the difference between kids getting the president's name shaved into their hair (hero worship) and people getting silly tattoos (people being stupid), then we'll just agree to disagree.

In the end, the kid's adoration matters naught. It's just another data point in a line, is all.

/waiting to get called a racist

uhhh What's more permanent? A tattoo or a haircut. Really? False equivalence much?

re: #214 Slumbering Behemoth

Shit! It's scary enough when Charles says that. I think I'm gonna hide under the desk for a little while.
/

Stinky's always watching, it's not like when Jesus is coming and we all have to look busy. Stinky already knows your heart.
/

re: #216 cliffster

What's scary about that? That's where super-powers come from, right? Right?
/Oh, I think I've made a huge mistake.

re: #216 cliffster

No, it's scary when a nuclear physicist says, "testing something"

Only when the news media blows the infinitesimal chance that the physicist might destroy the planet all out of proportion.

re: #206 Athens Runaway

If you can't see the difference between kids getting the president's name shaved into their hair (hero worship) and people getting silly tattoos (people being stupid), then we'll just agree to disagree.

In the end, the kid's adoration matters naught. It's just another data point in a line, is all.

/waiting to get called a racist

You're not a racist, put down the cross, I don't have any nails. :) I think that you don't understand children at all, and that your anti-Obama glasses are on.

If it's crazy for a black child to hero worship the first black president, then we have a lot of madhouses to build. The data point is thus: kid's in front of the president, wanted to do something for it. What's wrong with that?

When I was in Jr. high, there were kids shaving Brian Bosworth stripes into their hair, getting their hair cut and their eyebrows notched like Vanilla Ice. That was NORMAL. Happened constantly. If this behavior is crazy, my entire school was crazy. Kids do that stuff.

re: #217 albusteve

you make me sleepy...it's not something I want to argue

Then please stop regurgitating that "Obama isn't black" talking point. Not only is it one of the more ridiculous arguments to come out of the RW blogs and talk radio, but it also borders on offensive.

re: #220 CyanSnowHawk

Stinky's always watching, it's not like when Jesus is coming and we all have to look busy. Stinky already knows your heart.
/

In other words, Stinky's like Santa Claus.

You better watch out
You better not troll
Better not flounce
I'm telling you why
Stinky B is coming to town
He's making a list
And checking it twice;
Gonna find out Who's naughty and nice
Stinky B is coming to town
He sees you when you're trolling
He knows when you're a sock
He knows if you've been bad or good
So be good for goodness sake!
O! You better watch out!
You better not troll
Better not flounce
I'm telling you why
Stinky B is coming to town
Stinky B is coming to town

2012 movie clip, not for California folks. (hold on during the clip)

re: #186 albusteve

first, Obama is not black, he just identifies himself that way...second, Obama is not an entertainer (debatable I guess)...and third, sadly statistically this kid has a very strong possibility to be standing in line with his hand out ten years from now if his strong identification with Obama, and therefore liberal politics continues to seed his mind

Now you're just being silly. :)

re: #224 simoom

Then please stop regurgitating that "Obama isn't black" talking point. Not only is it one of the more ridiculous arguments to come out of the RW blogs and talk radio, but it also borders on offensive.

it's not a talking point or an argument...it's a fact, and don't tell me what to regurgitate

How to open a bottle of wine?

The french know what they're doing.

re: #223 WindUpBird

In all fairness, kids are crazy, that's just a fact.

I agree with Steele that Republicans need to have primaries to select candidates that represent the voters in their District.

Question: Should these primaries be open or closed?

re: #226 avanti
From the director of 10,000 BC is all I need to know about that film. Pass.

re: #232 bosforus

From the director of 10,000 BC is all I need to know about that film. Pass.

Excuse me, producer.

re: #225 Honorary Yooper

I regret that I have but one ding to give.

Nobody else is going to be funnier than that today. I'm not even going to try. Back to work for me.

re: #233 bosforus

Excuse me, producer.

Biallistock and Bloome?

re: #228 albusteve

it's not a talking point or an argument...it's a fact, and don't tell me what to regurgitate

HA HA HA! Seriously? Do you have proof of said fact? Maybe you should look at his birth certif-- oops.

re: #226 avanti

It would be so hard to outrun an earthquake. Don'tcha think?

re: #231 Cheechako

Closed!

re: #235 CyanSnowHawk

Biallistock and Bloome?

Roland Emmerich
On 10,000 BC's IMDB page it actually has him as the director, yet clicking his name shows him as the producer.

re: #237 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

It would be so hard to outrun an earthquake. Don'tcha think?

Not saying it's Citizen Kane, but the special effects in the clip are entertaining, even though silly unlikely.

re: #237 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm just hoping to outrun the movie.

re: #240 avanti

I am all about teh silly.

I'm planning on seeing it. Although, to be honest, I've made jokes about California sliding off into the sea... that makes it look less funny.

re: #239 bosforus

Roland Emmerich
On 10,000 BC's IMDB page it actually has him as the director, yet clicking his name shows him as the producer.

Here is my reference.

Bialystock and Bloom would be the correct spelling.

re: #235 CyanSnowHawk

Biallistock and Bloome?

Speaking of terrible? Uma in that movie...

re: #224 simoom

Then please stop regurgitating that "Obama isn't black" talking point. Not only is it one of the more ridiculous arguments to come out of the RW blogs and talk radio, but it also borders on offensive.

If he had said Obama was white, that too would be borderline offensive?///

re: #243 CyanSnowHawk

Here is my reference.

Bialystock and Bloom would be the correct spelling.

Ah. Some days I'm not as quick as on others. :)

re: #246 bosforus

Ah. Some days I'm not as quick as on others. :)

Tell me about it. Now I really need to get back to work.

re: #245 Spare O'Lake

If he had said Obama was white, that too would be borderline offensive?///

I wish I could unwatch that. Anyways, what a ridiculous argument.

re: #240 avanti

I was not happy to see two buildings collapsing together like that. Arouses bad memories for no great reason. Maybe I'm wrong- But the 9/11 videos gave movie makers some terrible hints at making sheer destruction appear real.

AARP to endorse House health care bill

re: #224 simoom

Then please stop regurgitating that "Obama isn't black" talking point. Not only is it one of the more ridiculous arguments to come out of the RW blogs and talk radio, but it also borders on offensive.

Crosses that border, IMHO.

re: #226 avanti

2012 movie clip, not for California folks. (hold on during the clip)

Some great special effects there - the shots of the collapsing buildings were definitely 'best in class material' - but I've seen better acting from Ben Affleck.

re: #250 Killgore Trout

AARP to endorse House health care bill

That was to be expected, their membership will be around to take advantage of it but not to pay for it.
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re: #249 Rightwingconspirator

I was not happy to see two buildings collapsing together like that. Arouses bad memories for no great reason. Maybe I'm wrong- But the 9/11 videos gave movie makers some terrible hints at making sheer destruction appear real.

I did not see that, if anything, not having them collapse vertically was less realistic in the movie. BTW, the movie director wanted to show Muslim holy sites being destroyed with the other faiths, but feared a Fatah.

re: #252 Jimmah

"Ben Affleck has an Oscar... I shit you not."
-Robert Wuhl, Assume the Position

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re: #249 Rightwingconspirator

*shudder*