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1 Clemente  Wed, Nov 4, 2009 11:05:18pm

Well-shot!

2 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 4, 2009 11:05:32pm
3 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 4, 2009 11:06:21pm

Nice shot. Very Claude Monet.

4 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 4, 2009 11:07:38pm

I sense a ‘countdown to Christmas’ post coming.
/;)

5 freetoken  Wed, Nov 4, 2009 11:08:25pm

All our world… the the sky and the birds that fill them… and the land and the trees that cover them… are but a reflection of a greater reality… at which we only speculate… and that we run out of time before we find the answer…

/49 more days…

6 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 4, 2009 11:11:14pm

The tree(?) reflection could be a Rorschach test. I see a horse head.

7 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 4, 2009 11:12:49pm
8 Clemente  Wed, Nov 4, 2009 11:13:34pm

But I think either the photographer was head-down when shooting, or the photo’s been flipped…

9 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 4, 2009 11:14:37pm

re: #6 Sharmuta

The tree(?) reflection could be a Rorschach test. I see a horse head.

I see someone(thing) driving a sword into another thing.
/Gah, what does that say about my mind set. :)

10 Tiny alien kittens are watching you  Wed, Nov 4, 2009 11:15:16pm

The sky looks a little weird, is the air pollution really that bad where you live?

///

Good timing, great shot. :)

11 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 4, 2009 11:17:14pm

re: #6 Sharmuta

Is it always about food with you?
/ ;)

I see a drunk leaning over the neck of a bass guitar.

12 Tiny alien kittens are watching you  Wed, Nov 4, 2009 11:18:22pm

re: #9 Varek Raith

I see someone(thing) driving a sword into another thing.
/Gah, what does that say about my mind set. :)

Don’t be silly, it is a man on a horse running from a giant wild boar about 15’ tall that is right behind them…

13 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 4, 2009 11:19:32pm

re: #12 ausador

Don’t be silly, it is a man on a horse running from a giant wild boar about 15’ tall that is right behind them…

…and the bird for air support!

14 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 4, 2009 11:20:55pm

re: #9 Varek Raith

/Gah, what does that say about my mind set. :)

That you have an appreciation for stoner rock?

15 Bagua  Wed, Nov 4, 2009 11:22:53pm

I see a Witch riding her broom through the clouds.

16 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 4, 2009 11:25:10pm

re: #12 ausador

Don’t be silly, it is a man on a horse running from a giant wild boar about 15’ tall that is right behind them…

It’s a horse head. It’s supposed to represent one of the Horses of the Apocalypse come to take us away into the bright, shiny future of Tomorrow where the liberal fascists will throw us in FEMA camps. Glenn Beck told me so.

17 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 4, 2009 11:28:02pm

re: #15 Bagua

I see a Witch riding her broom through the clouds.


You see Nancy Pelosi in her private jet? :D

18 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 4, 2009 11:39:14pm

In light of this Rorschach test, I feel compelled to retell this story…

While visiting a distant friend, his young daughter was showing me pictures in her little photo album. She was quite proud of her collection, giving detailed descriptions of each event photographed.

The album was only half full, so of course she eventually turned to a blank, white page. Thinking I was being clever, I busted out with the old “And that’s a picture of a Polar bear eating a marshmallow in a snow storm”.

She was too young to get the cheesy joke, it went right over her head.

She gave me a strange smile, and then went on to give detailed and fantastical descriptions of the “pictures” contained on every blank page beyond that. All of them different, all of them full of grand imagination.

19 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 4, 2009 11:45:01pm

That’s all for me tonight, I’m fading. Sleep well, friends.

20 ryannon  Wed, Nov 4, 2009 11:50:57pm

By God, it’s the Silver Surfer!

Bravo, Charles!

21 Tiny alien kittens are watching you  Wed, Nov 4, 2009 11:54:57pm

House Democrats set stage for health care vote
AARP backs sweeping plan; floor vote could take place as early as Saturday

WASHINGTON - In a coup for House Democrats, AARP will endorse sweeping health care overhaul legislation headed for a history-making floor vote, officials told The Associated Press on Wednesday.

An endorsement from the seniors’ lobby was critical when then-President George W. Bush pushed the Medicare prescription drug benefit through a closely divided Congress in 2003. House Democratic leaders are hoping it will work the same political magic for them as they strive to deliver on President Barack Obama’s signature issue.

An announcement from the 40-million member group is expected Thursday, said officials with knowledge of the group’s decision. They spoke on condition of anonymity because the endorsement is not official yet.

Dammit you just can’t trust those darned senior citizens—I just can’t imagine why they would approve of a government run health plan.

Oh, wait…

/

22 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Nov 4, 2009 11:59:34pm

re: #14 Slumbering Behemoth

That you have an appreciation for stoner rock?

Saw the Sword live, loved them :D

23 Irenicum  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 12:00:45am

Good Lord it’s late. Why am I still up?

24 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 12:01:33am

re: #21 ausador

OLDY JUST WANTS FREE STUFF!
/a twist on an old meme

25 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 12:03:30am

re: #22 WindUpBird

Have I told you lately how much I hate you? :(

/green eye off

26 Irenicum  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 12:06:52am

Because of the class I was in tonight, I looked up”Romero”, in order to see if the movie about the Archbishop was online. Instead I found this. Absolutely beautiful.

27 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 12:07:46am

re: #25 Slumbering Behemoth

Have I told you lately how much I hate you? :(

They came to Portland, I couldn’t NOT see them!

28 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 12:11:08am

Ahhh…Christmas is on it’s way early this year:

29 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 12:17:29am

re: #28 Oh no…Sand People!

Guh, don’t remind me, so many games I have to get that I have no time to play… Assassin’s Creed 2, Forza 3, Modern Warfare 2, Mass Effect 2, Dragon Age, Brutal Legend…

30 Tiny alien kittens are watching you  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 12:19:11am

Rhode Island’s Senator Theadore F. Green, 90 and a bachelor, was one of the most popular men in Washington society and went regularly to more parties than anyone else in town. At one cocktail party he was asked how many he was attending that day.
“Six,” he said, looking up from a small black notebook.
“What are you doing, seeing where you are to go next?”
“No,” replied the energetic Senator, “I’m trying to find out where I am now!”

31 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 12:19:47am

re: #26 Irenicum

Excellent. Quite intense. Thanks for sharing that.

32 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 12:21:40am

re: #29 WindUpBird

Guh, don’t remind me, so many games I have to get that I have no time to play… Assassin’s Creed 2, Forza 3, Modern Warfare 2, Mass Effect 2, Dragon Age, Brutal Legend…

Last game I played was Left 4 Dead. I haven’t even had to time to crack open my Resident Evil 5…

33 Tiny alien kittens are watching you  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 12:27:00am

One girl to another: “If I could just combine their qualities I’d be the happiest girl in the world. Ronald is easy-going, debonair, rich, handsome, witty, and Ralph wants to marry me.”

34 Tiny alien kittens are watching you  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 12:30:36am

The joy of motherhood: What a woman experiences when all the kids are in bed.

35 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 12:31:53am

“That woman was sexy…Out of your league? Son. Let women figure out why they won’t screw you, don’t do it for them.

36 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 12:33:06am

Gotta get ready for the my ‘day’ later all.

37 [deleted]  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 12:35:44am
38 Tiny alien kittens are watching you  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 12:38:57am

Flounce number one…

39 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 12:42:11am

re: #38 ausador

Wot? “Pictures of water reflections suck, and ur a commie”.

Wha happon?

40 Tiny alien kittens are watching you  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 12:43:33am

I don’t have any problem with mocking nutcases no matter what party they supposedly belong to, we Republicans are not sacred or anything. If you take offense at calling a spade a spade or a loon a loon then your right, you belong somewhere else.

Have fun now…

41 [deleted]  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 12:45:08am
42 [deleted]  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 12:50:36am
43 Tiny alien kittens are watching you  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 12:57:14am

re: #41 greenmiler

wow that was fast, after 5 years my resignation gets 30 seconds

As a newbie here I have found that the vast majority of the people on this site still support the Republican party and fiscal conservatism. But we do seem to have some major problems with theocons and populist snake oil salesmen, many don’t feel that is what our party should be. Mocking them is better than crying in frustration, so we mock…

44 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 1:04:04am

re: #43 ausador

It’s a whiner, then? I keep missing it’s posts.

45 Pamela Gellar [sic(k)]  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 1:11:17am

re: #43 ausador

As a newbie here I have found that the vast majority of the people on this site still support the Republican party and fiscal conservatism. But we do seem to have some major problems with theocons and populist snake oil salesmen, many don’t feel that is what our party should be. Mocking them is better than crying in frustration, so we mock…

Our chief weapons are surprise, mockery, and snark…

46 Tiny alien kittens are watching you  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 1:11:27am

Yes, we have changed, Charles has changed, all this place does is post about right wing extremeism and mock the right worse than KOS blah, blah, blah…

47 Tiny alien kittens are watching you  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 1:13:24am

He seems to be missing the point of the exercise entirely…unfortunate.

48 Tiny alien kittens are watching you  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 1:21:00am

I need some inspirational music after being called out for mocking, this might work…

49 Pamela Gellar [sic(k)]  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 1:24:17am

BBL

50 Bagua  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 1:25:13am

re: #45 iceweasel

Our chief weapons are surprise, mockery, and snark…

The pen is mightier than the sword at times.

51 Tiny alien kittens are watching you  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 1:36:18am

Hmm…maybe some older techno…along with robot girls?

52 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 1:37:37am

About 2 or 3 weeks ago we had an attack of the flouncers. Half the LNDT was deleted.

53 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 1:38:05am

#43
The thing that got me onto this site was its extreme pro-Evolution viewpoint. And a mistrust of extremist fundamentalists of any color.

And that the level of argument and discourse one encounters here has (with minor exceptions) not reached the dismal level of public discourse that we see in the media and public life in the ‘states in recent years.

54 theheat  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 1:39:08am

re: #52 Cannadian Club Akbar

The late night vampire flouncers. They can’t come out in the daytime and flounce. They flounce best under moonlight.

55 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 1:40:48am

re: #54 theheat

The late night vampire flouncers. They can’t come out in the daytime and flounce. They flounce best under moonlight.

They think Charles is sleeping. Dude asked for a deletion and got it in about 2 minutes. Funny. Then I went and watched Fringe on Hulu.

56 theheat  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 1:43:09am

re: #55 Cannadian Club Akbar

Charles has to sleep sometime. I believe he has autonomous lizard drones to do his bidding when his eyes are closed. They’re attracted to light, so when the late night vampire flouncers fluoresce, they’re as good as gone.

57 Tiny alien kittens are watching you  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 1:50:46am

re: #53 ralphieboy

#43
The thing that got me onto this site was its extreme pro-Evolution viewpoint. And a mistrust of extremist fundamentalists of any color.

That is because the extremists are really exactly alike in their core values, they both want government to tell everyone how to live their lives. The only disagreement is about what things the government is going to enforce upon us.

58 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 1:51:13am

I have a job interview today. Pay is about 55% of what I usually make and is 30 miles from home. Ugh. And the bad thing is, last night I sent out 2 resumes where I could earn what I deserve. If I take this job, one of the others will call. If I don’t, neither will call. Stupid Murphy’s Law.

59 Tiny alien kittens are watching you  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 1:53:50am

re: #58 Cannadian Club Akbar

A job in the hand is worth two in imagination…or something like that anyway, something about bushes maybe? ;)

60 theheat  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 1:57:26am

re: #58 Cannadian Club Akbar

That’s exactly what has happened to my brother about a half dozen times. Every time he zigs left, the opportunity he wanted opens on the right, or vice versa. He’ll no sooner take a job after having his resume neglected for months or a year from another company, and that other company will call. It’s as if he’s invisible until he’s no longer available, then the phone starts ringing.

Right now he’s in a quandary about his current employer landing a nice contract that would guarantee work for X amount of time, and a company he’s applied for repeatedly in Germany called - one he figured had totally forgotten about him - and wants to talk to him right now!

Damned if you do, and damned if you don’t.

61 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 1:58:08am

re: #59 ausador

The company I am going to interview with today runs retirement homes. They have about 20 close to me, which means room for advancement. I’ll see what they have to say.

62 Tiny alien kittens are watching you  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 2:00:05am

It’s not easy to be me, Smallville edition.

63 Bagua  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 2:01:54am

re: #53 ralphieboy

#43
The thing that got me onto this site was its extreme pro-Evolution viewpoint. And a mistrust of extremist fundamentalists of any color.

[…].

I’m not sure I’d describe the pro-Evolution viewpoint as extreme, which would tend to associate with mistrust of extremist fundamentalists.

I see the viewpoint more as opposing the extremist anti-evolution types, while acknowledging the state of the science. Rather it seems a more a conservative viewpoint than an extreme one.

64 Mardukhai  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 2:02:35am

Is that flying object a bird flying to the left, or a boy on a scooter flying to the right?

65 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 2:03:26am

re: #64 Mardukhai

Is that flying object a bird flying to the left, or a boy on a scooter flying to the right?

Close. Bird on a scooter.
/

66 Mardukhai  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 2:03:40am

When does Charles go bike riding?

;-)

67 theheat  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 2:04:20am

re: #62 ausador

I have the distinction of probably the only person who has never watched a single episode of Smallville.

68 Mardukhai  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 2:04:33am

Boy on a bird.

69 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 2:06:09am

re: #67 theheat

I have the distinction of probably the only person who has never watched a single episode of Smallville.

I’m with ya. I watch about 4 total TV shows. And football.

70 Mardukhai  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 2:06:55am

re: #67 theheat

You haven’t missed much, other than the unbearably cute actress who plays Chloe.

The whole show is about Superboy’s super-angst. He moralizes and whines, and whines and moralizes. It just never stops!

Come to think of it, Superbooy is probably a liberal.

71 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 2:07:13am

re: #69 Cannadian Club Akbar

Actually 3. Fringe, House, Lie to Me.

72 Mardukhai  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 2:07:17am

Or Superbore.

73 theheat  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 2:08:30am

re: #70 Mardukhai

Superboy is probably a liberal.

Or, he could be the whiny defender of straw men, like Glenn Beck. Depends on how much Superboy cries, I suppose.

74 Mardukhai  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 2:09:20am

White Collar is witty and literary. Burn Notice is smart.

Law and Order UK is intense, but we don’t get it here.

75 Mardukhai  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 2:10:07am

Rightwingers don’t suffer from “moral agony” — that’s a liberal disease.

76 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 2:10:16am

re: #74 Mardukhai

White Collar is witty and literary. Burn Notice is smart.

Law and Order UK is intense, but we don’t get it here.

Burn Notice is good, but I don’t have cable. Hulu is my friend.

77 Mardukhai  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 2:11:15am

If you like Hulu, try “Dead Like Me” and “Kingdom” — both are comedies for smart people.

78 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 2:12:52am

re: #77 Mardukhai

If you like Hulu, try “Dead Like Me” and “Kingdom” — both are comedies for smart people.

I’ve heard of “Dead Like Me” but not “Kingdom.”

79 Bagua  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 2:15:08am

re: #73 theheat

Or, he could be the whiny defender of straw men, like Glenn Beck.

That has both the ring of truth to it and hilarity, something for everyone!

80 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 2:16:50am

re: #79 Bagua

That has both the ring of truth to it and hilarity, something for everyone!

My radio just said Beck had an emergency appendectomy yesterday. Beck started in my area 10 years ago with a talk format.

81 Mardukhai  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 2:19:19am

re: #78 Cannadian Club Akbar

Kingdom is an English comedy mystery in which there are no murders, just odd problems a country solicitor must solve for his clients. Its so very English, country, and old fashioned. Cheers.

82 Mardukhai  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 2:20:09am

They should have removed Beck’s tongue while they were at it.

83 freetoken  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 2:21:02am

re: #80 Cannadian Club Akbar

My radio just said Beck had an emergency appendectomy yesterday.

Yes, and “The Judge” filled in for him.

I’ll lay off of Beck while he is recovering… however, if it is anything like his back ordeal, we can expect to see and or hear Beck even while he is at home recuperating.

84 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 2:22:20am

re: #81 Mardukhai

British comedy rules. You just need to have the right sense of humor for it.

85 SixDegrees  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 2:23:08am

re: #21 ausador

House Democrats set stage for health care vote
AARP backs sweeping plan; floor vote could take place as early as Saturday

Dammit you just can’t trust those darned senior citizens—I just can’t imagine why they would approve of a government run health plan.

Oh, wait…

/

Interesting related note: one of my coworkers will be retiring in a few months. And he’s scheduled a flurry of surgical and medical procedures during that time - knee replacement, elbow surgery, some dental work and a few other major items. His reason? He wants to get it done while he has real insurance rather than Medicare. He’ll probably carry his present policy through COBRA for a few months, just to be on the safe side.

And this guy is the King of the Liberals in our office, who’s been pounding away for socialized health care for years.

Fine for thee, but not for me, I guess, now that reality is looming.

86 abolitionist  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 2:24:41am

re: #82 Mardukhai

They should have removed Beck’s tongue while they were at it.

You’re not a free-speech advocate?

87 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 2:25:11am

re: #85 SixDegrees

My old man got a buy out from GTE/Verizon when he was 55. Part of the deal was that they paid his insurance until he was 65. Worked out well.

88 theheat  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 2:25:26am

re: #82 Mardukhai

That wouldn’t stop him. He’d learn to sign. And he’d still cry. And it would be even more pathetic, a guy without a tongue, crying. In the long run, it would only gain more oblivious sympathizers.

Seriously, though, appendicitis can be a big deal. My son was touch and go last year when his girlfriend finally talked him into going to the hospital (he was at work when it happened). Had us pretty freaked out. I can’t stand Glenn Beck, but I certainly don’t wish him physical harm.

89 Tiny alien kittens are watching you  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 2:25:58am

re: #80 Cannadian Club Akbar

My radio just said Beck had an emergency appendectomy yesterday. Beck started in my area 10 years ago with a talk format.

It is a conspiracy, Acorn’s agents had something to do with this I’m sure. Glenn Becks appendicitis is it a conspiracy?

90 Mardukhai  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 2:26:54am

re: #86 abolitionist

You’re not a free-speech advocate?

BWAAA-HA-HA-AH-HA-HA!

(I’m evil!)

91 Bagua  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 2:28:41am

re: #80 Cannadian Club Akbar

Actually, I believe Beck had his appendicitis attack while on the air doing his radio show. No doubt he will accuse his enemies the progressives of having put a hex on him.

I mean, one can’t rule out some ACORN thug on his way back to Chicago after stealing the election from Hoffman, stopping by his studio to put the mojo on him.

92 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 2:29:28am

re: #91 Bagua

Yes. He left after the first hour yesterday.

93 theheat  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 2:29:45am

re: #91 Bagua

Upcoming Glenn Beck episode: “Voodoo Dolls: A Tool of the Left.”

94 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 2:29:57am

ACORN=Appendix Curses On Radio Newscasters!

95 Tiny alien kittens are watching you  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 2:31:46am

re: #94 ralphieboy

Now I know what that acronym stands for, finally.

/

96 Bagua  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 2:32:12am

re: #94 ralphieboy

ACORN=Appendix Curses On Radio Newscasters!

Who knew the extent of their sekrit powers.

97 theheat  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 2:34:08am

I might have to change up my bag of tricks. I was thinking second hand smoke, saturated fats, and a diet high in starch and carbohydrates could be an effective silent killer. Who knew leftist voodoo worked so well. I better write that down and send ACORN some money.

98 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 2:35:24am

re: #97 theheat

I’m going with drinking, smoking and red meat:)

99 Tiny alien kittens are watching you  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 2:36:11am

Johnny Cash live at San Quentin, “A boy named sue.”

100 theheat  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 2:39:40am

re: #98 Cannadian Club Akbar

All I know, is when you go to the health food store and ask if they have hemlock tea, they’ll look at you funny.

101 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 2:41:21am

re: #100 theheat

All I know, is when you go to the health food store and ask if they have hemlock tea, they’ll look at you funny.

I go to exotic pet stores and ask “which one of these taste best?”
/

102 Bagua  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 2:42:40am

It’s a perfect theme for Beck to take after his recovery (and of course we all wish him a speedy recovery).

During the Salem Witch hysteria, the entire horror show was kicked off by the girls accusing Tituba, the African slave of having engaged in sorcery. From there it just spread and they imagined all sorts of bizarre things. Had trials, make accusations, gave “evidence” and of course executions.

ACORN is the new Tituba. We’ve already seen the posters of Obama as a witchdoctor. Glenn Beck is filling the part of the three hysterical girls pointing the finger and telling tales.

103 theheat  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 2:45:11am

re: #101 Cannadian Club Akbar

You don’t need to go to exotics. Puppies. Puppies taste best. Kittens are a close second, but the meat is stringier.
//

104 Tiny alien kittens are watching you  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 2:47:31am

Gloria Gaynor-“I will survive”

105 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 2:49:04am

re: #104 ausador

Gloria Gaynor-“I will survive”

[Video]

Careful. Sharm sees that she will break out the Donna Summer videos. (I like Donna Summer)

106 Tiny alien kittens are watching you  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 2:49:15am

re: #103 theheat

You don’t need to go to exotics. Puppies. Puppies taste best. Kittens are a close second, but the meat is stringier.
//

Have you ever tried fire roasted Iguana on a stick? Thems good eatins I tells ya!

107 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 2:51:12am

re: #106 ausador

Have you ever tried fire roasted Iguana on a stick? Thems good eatins I tells ya!

Not far from where I live is a really nice, very rich beach side community. About 20 years ago someone dropped off 2 iguanas. Fuckers are everywhere now.

108 theheat  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 2:51:37am

re: #106 ausador

Ewww. No. Truthfully, I’m pretty much an animal lover and a vegetarian. Although, I’ve tasted some odd brand meat substitutes that might make iguana a tasty alternative, they were so awful.

109 Jimmah  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 2:53:54am

Good morning LGF!

w00t!

110 theheat  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 2:54:08am

re: #105 Cannadian Club Akbar

Look, if we’re going to bust out torch songs and disco, I’ll have to scare up some Adam Lambert. He’s my new favorite discovery.

Don’t make me go there.

111 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 2:56:33am

re: #110 theheat

I’ve seen about 5 AI shows (I like it when the people cry) but Lambert is very talented. But you don’t need to post anything this early.:)

112 abolitionist  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 2:59:05am

Controversial New Video of Obama’s Pastor. Introduced by None Other Than Robert McChesney (Co-Founder of Free Press)
***ALL CREDIT FOR THIS POSTING GOES TO CLIFF KINCAID and ACCURACY IN MEDIA***

Excerpt (not directly related to Rev Wright’s video, except for an apparently common agenda):

Fox News’ Glenn Beck, who has focused critical public attention on McChesney’s influence in the “media reform” movement and on the Obama Administration, has noted that McChesney co-authored another piece for Monthly Review, “A New New Deal Under Obama?,” in which he said, “In the end, there is no real answer but to remove brick by brick the capitalist system itself, rebuilding the entire society on socialist principles.”

Ironically, McChesney’s Free Press organization has received at least $1 million from the Open Society Institute of billionaire George Soros, a mega-capitalist who seems to have dedicated his life to overturning the system that made him wealthy. [Emphasis added]

A few bricks here, a few bricks there … who’s going to notice?

113 theheat  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 3:00:06am

re: #111 Cannadian Club Akbar

I’ve never watched an episode of AI, not even when it was brand new. I only found out who “Glambert” was after the season was over, and that was by accident, on youtube. Then I sat back and thought who the hell is this guy - he’s really good! Turned out everyone knew who he was but me. All the same - I love the guy. The eyeliner, the theatrics, the dyed black hair - the whole thing. Clearly, he’s having fun and it shows.

114 theheat  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 3:04:20am

re: #112 abolitionist

You know, it’s ironic Glenn finds all these nefarious connections, but is totally blind to all the unsavory organizations and people he chooses to surround himself with, support, and defend.

Pot, meet kettle.

They’re all shit. All of them.

115 Tiny alien kittens are watching you  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 3:07:39am

Dread Zeppelin-“Heartbreaker”

/comic relief

116 SixDegrees  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 3:07:40am

Here’s the cast of the show Glee performing Queen’s Somebody to Love.

I loathed Queen back in the 70s, but now…damn, they’re really good, and the increasing number of covers they’re receiving are good to hear.

117 abolitionist  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 3:08:50am

re: #114 theheat

Glenn Beck is not my President, and I can ignore him if I choose to. There’s a difference. I hope you can see that.

118 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 3:11:20am

re: #115 ausador

I’ll see you and raise you with Metal Elvis..

119 theheat  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 3:13:51am

re: #117 abolitionist

True, but I see Beck’s involvement in politics, combined with that of his compatriots and followers, and you can’t deny their influence. He isn’t just another nutjob on the radio, preaching to a lost audience. If that were true, I’d find him harmless.

120 abolitionist  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 3:17:03am

re: #119 theheat

Please forget GB. The message of the article isn’t his.

121 theheat  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 3:17:36am

re: #118 Cannadian Club Akbar

That’s it, dammit. Out comes the Glambert. This is the very first video I ever saw with him, and he blew me away. If you’re not familiar with him, he’s not the first guy singing, but comes in afterwards, and blows the doors off the place. Black hair. A half pound of eyeliner. Can’t miss him. Now that’s a Queen cover if I ever heard one. Freddy Mercury would be proud.

122 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 3:20:50am

re: #121 theheat

That’s Queen’s guitarist, I think. Can’t remember his name. Brian May maybe.

123 theheat  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 3:22:11am

re: #122 Cannadian Club Akbar

Yeah, that’s Brian May. I believe the entire band is Queen. Certainly adds that air of authenticity!

124 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 3:24:22am

re: #123 theheat

I remember watching Queen on a show called “Friday Night Special” when I was a kid.

125 SixDegrees  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 3:25:35am

re: #121 theheat

That’s it, dammit. Out comes the Glambert. This is the very first video I ever saw with him, and he blew me away. If you’re not familiar with him, he’s not the first guy singing, but comes in afterwards, and blows the doors off the place. Black hair. A half pound of eyeliner. Can’t miss him. Now that’s a Queen cover if I ever heard one. Freddy Mercury would be proud.

Damn. That other guy shouldn’t have agreed to share the stage with him; whoever he is, he all but disappears in comparison.

126 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 3:27:12am

re: #125 SixDegrees

I won’t be buying any Adam Lambert CD’s, but the kid has pipes.

127 theheat  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 3:28:13am

re: #125 SixDegrees

Uh, that other guy beat my boy Glambert and WON American Idol, believe it or not. His name is Kris Allen. I guess he and Adam Lambert were roommates during the season, and became good friends. Nothing against Kris Allen, but for that type of song, Lambert threw down the gauntlet, and it showed. He owned it.

128 Hengineer  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 3:29:16am

re: #29 WindUpBird

Guh, don’t remind me, so many games I have to get that I have no time to play… Assassin’s Creed 2, Forza 3, Modern Warfare 2, Mass Effect 2, Dragon Age, Brutal Legend…

Yea well the total war games have lately taken up all my time, including mods thereof. My favorite mod so far is “Europa Barbarorum”, a realism modification for Rome: Total war, and its badass.
Currently playing as Spain in Medeival II: Total War, the current pope is spanish, is allied with me and loves me, I am in the middle of an invasion of the British isles and already hold Crete and Jerusalem.

I can’t wait to get Modern Warfare II though…

129 SixDegrees  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 3:30:04am

re: #126 Cannadian Club Akbar

I won’t be buying any Adam Lambert CD’s, but the kid has pipes.

He certainly does. I’m always impressed by singers with a huge range like his. It’s one of the reasons Queen hasn’t had as many covers as it might deserve: there just aren’t that many singers who can pull off the vocals Mercury wrote and performed.

Me, I’ve got a range of about a third, on a good day, and couldn’t carry a tune in a bucket.

130 Hengineer  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 3:31:21am

re: #21 ausador

House Democrats set stage for health care vote
AARP backs sweeping plan; floor vote could take place as early as Saturday


Dammit you just can’t trust those darned senior citizens—I just can’t imagine why they would approve of a government run health plan.

Oh, wait…

/


Quoting a Futurama episode: One old man to another (outside a social security office): “I DESERVE FREE MONEY” (after years of complaining about old people freeloading).

131 SixDegrees  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 3:32:49am

re: #127 theheat

Uh, that other guy beat my boy Glambert and WON American Idol, believe it or not. His name is Kris Allen. I guess he and Adam Lambert were roommates during the season, and became good friends. Nothing against Kris Allen, but for that type of song, Lambert threw down the gauntlet, and it showed. He owned it.

Absolutely. It wasn’t even a contest. In fact, per your advice I wasn’t really watching the video when it started, but as soon as Glambert opened his mouth I immediately snapped to attention involuntarily.

Pity he didn’t win, but I’ve never been able to decipher AI’s judging criteria anyway.

132 Hengineer  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 3:33:05am

re: #129 SixDegrees

He certainly does. I’m always impressed by singers with a huge range like his. It’s one of the reasons Queen hasn’t had as many covers as it might deserve: there just aren’t that many singers who can pull off the vocals Mercury wrote and performed.

Me, I’ve got a range of about a third, on a good day, and couldn’t carry a tune in a bucket.


That’s why I’m disappointed in Mariah Carey, she supposedly could sing 8 octaves (I think?) but for some reason went WAY too pop-ish. Unlike Christina Aguilera, who even when she went “pop”, still sang her guts out, and then later grew up and is now very mature for her age.

133 theheat  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 3:33:17am

re: #124 Cannadian Club Akbar

I watched that too. I would stay up late every Friday and watch that while the folks were sleeping.

re: #129 SixDegrees

According to what I read, Brian May was really impressed with Lambert, and said the same thing.

134 Hengineer  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 3:34:12am

re: #70 Mardukhai

You haven’t missed much, other than the unbearably cute actress who plays Chloe.

The whole show is about Superboy’s super-angst. He moralizes and whines, and whines and moralizes. It just never stops!

Come to think of it, Superbooy is probably a liberal.

I only liked Smallville for the progressive story about a boy discovering who he is and turning into Superman. The teen angst high-school drama bullcrap got annoying fast.

135 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 3:35:08am

Hey Early Morning Lizards!

Did anything exciting happen overnight?

136 abolitionist  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 3:35:53am

re: #135 ggt

greenmiler signed off.

137 Hengineer  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 3:36:39am

re: #101 Cannadian Club Akbar

I go to exotic pet stores and ask “which one of these taste best?”
/

I’ve done that to a cat lady (you know, with 14 cats at home).

138 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 3:36:43am

re: #131 SixDegrees

Near the end of AI, it’s up to the voters (Call in, computer votes) Lambert had backlash against him.

139 SixDegrees  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 3:36:55am

re: #130 Hengineer

Quoting a Futurama episode: One old man to another (outside a social security office): “I DESERVE FREE MONEY” (after years of complaining about old people freeloading).

In the same vein from The Simpsons, Grandpa walks into the Social Security office and declares, “I’M OLD! GIMME GIMME GIMME!”

140 razorbacker  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 3:37:14am

re: #128 Hengineer

Yea well the total war games have lately taken up all my time, including mods thereof. My favorite mod so far is “Europa Barbarorum”, a realism modification for Rome: Total war, and its badass.
Currently playing as Spain in Medeival II: Total War, the current pope is spanish, is allied with me and loves me, I am in the middle of an invasion of the British isles and already hold Crete and Jerusalem.

I can’t wait to get Modern Warfare II though…

Somewhat related:

As I was shivering 12 feet up in an oak tree the other day, it occurred to me the real reason that hunting is fading away.

Video games. The new ones when played on HD sets are amazing.

Now consider. I may go all muzzle-loader season, and all modern gun season and only fire twice, three times, or maybe not at all. And I’m in the weather, uncomfortable, rained on, perched on a tiny seat or busting my way through briars and brush.

Can’t compare to sitting in my underwear on the recliner sipping a drink and munching chips while blasting away at target after target.

And you don’t even get your hands bloody.

141 theheat  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 3:37:17am

re: #131 SixDegrees

In fact, per your advice I wasn’t really watching the video when it started, but as soon as Glambert opened his mouth I immediately snapped to attention involuntarily.

Me, too. I was thinking oh, they’re going to crap all over yet another iconic song, and I was going to switch off, and then I heard - didn’t see - but heard Lambert come in, and my head whipped around like WTF?! Then I watched it again, and wondered who the hell is this guy? It was love at first sound ;-)

142 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 3:38:12am

re: #136 abolitionist

greenmiler signed off.

Who? (or is it, Whom?)

143 Tiny alien kittens are watching you  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 3:39:09am

Jewel_”Who will save your soul” acoustic version.

Left Homer Alaska and never looked back, we couldn’t even get her to come back up to do a concert.

144 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 3:39:11am

re: #139 SixDegrees

In the same vein from The Simpsons, Grandpa walks into the Social Security office and declares, “I’M OLD! GIMME GIMME GIMME!”

Also, Lisa and Bart were writing cartoons and had the checks sent to grandpa. When they asked why did he think he was getting free money he said, “I thought the democrats were back in charge.”

145 Hengineer  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 3:41:13am

re: #140 razorbacker

Somewhat related:

As I was shivering 12 feet up in an oak tree the other day, it occurred to me the real reason that hunting is fading away.

Video games. The new ones when played on HD sets are amazing.

Now consider. I may go all muzzle-loader season, and all modern gun season and only fire twice, three times, or maybe not at all. And I’m in the weather, uncomfortable, rained on, perched on a tiny seat or busting my way through briars and brush.

Can’t compare to sitting in my underwear on the recliner sipping a drink and munching chips while blasting away at target after target.

And you don’t even get your hands bloody.

But you get carpal tunnel like a motha!.

;-)

When you think about it, its a much safer alternative. You’d think Animal Rights organizations would prop up the video game industry as a way to save animals! How many of you tried shooting pigeons as a kid with BB guns? And are now shooting deer with higher calibre weaponry?
Besides, people like PETA are for population control and think animals have more rights than humans. If someone kills virtual people, its no skin off their back.

146 SixDegrees  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 3:41:26am

re: #132 Hengineer

That’s why I’m disappointed in Mariah Carey, she supposedly could sing 8 octaves (I think?) but for some reason went WAY too pop-ish. Unlike Christina Aguilera, who even when she went “pop”, still sang her guts out, and then later grew up and is now very mature for her age.

Mariah Carey has serious mental problems from what I’ve been able to gather. Why anyone with talent is attracted pop, I’ll never understand - it is soul-killing, superficial drudgery focused solely on promoting teen or near-teen porn to an audience of drooling halfwits who wouldn’t recognize true talent if it walked up and bit them in their pimply ass.

…wait, did I think that or did I type that?

147 abolitionist  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 3:41:37am

re: #142 ggt

He registered in 2004, and asked this AM for his account to be removed.

148 SixDegrees  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 3:43:28am

re: #138 Cannadian Club Akbar

Near the end of AI, it’s up to the voters (Call in, computer votes) Lambert had backlash against him.

Well, that explains a few things. See my previous rant.

149 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 3:43:42am

re: #147 abolitionist

He registered in 2004, and asked this AM for his account to be removed.

Ha!

150 Hengineer  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 3:43:56am

re: #146 SixDegrees

Mariah Carey has serious mental problems from what I’ve been able to gather. Why anyone with talent is attracted pop, I’ll never understand - it is soul-killing, superficial drudgery focused solely on promoting teen or near-teen porn to an audience of drooling halfwits who wouldn’t recognize true talent if it walked up and bit them in their pimply ass.

…wait, did I think that or did I type that?

I can at least understand Christina’s pop phase, she was brought out by a record label, then went crazy when finally able to go on her own (sort of like a preacher’s daughter syndrome I guess, she finally realized that the label doesn’t have to tell her what to do anymore). But I guess once she got it out of her system she went back to a classic style, and I think went to a Marylin Monroe kind of pinup look after that.

151 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 3:44:41am

Good Morning LGF

152 Hengineer  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 3:45:01am

In the meantime, we finally pulled in at the NATO pier on Crete to refuel. We couldn’t pull in yesterday due to high winds.

153 Hengineer  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 3:45:27am

re: #151 Spare O’Lake

Good Morning LGF

Afternoon (1:45 PM on Crete) Spare

154 theheat  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 3:46:46am

re: #146 SixDegrees

Why anyone with talent is attracted pop, I’ll never understand

It pays better. Pop, i.e popular, meaning mainstream, and more album sales. I think once they get rich, some go back to their roots, or experimental side projects, because they can afford to have an album bomb. Up and comers don’t have that luxury.

Likewise, I heard a couple tracks off the much-anticipated Lambert album, and hated them both. Tepid, very tepid. I’d rather he went off and toured with Queen, and had the world at his feet, but he doesn’t much care what I think. Odd, that.

155 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 3:47:24am

re: #150 Hengineer

I can at least understand Christina’s pop phase, she was brought out by a record label, then went crazy when finally able to go on her own (sort of like a preacher’s daughter syndrome I guess, she finally realized that the label doesn’t have to tell her what to do anymore). But I guess once she got it out of her system she went back to a classic style, and I think went to a Marylin Monroe kind of pinup look after that.

Great southern rock song with Christina pic background

156 Hengineer  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 3:47:57am

re: #155 Cannadian Club Akbar

Great southern rock song with Christina pic background

[Video]

Yea, we can’t access Youtube from the ship’s computers. Blocked out from the US Navy servers…

157 SixDegrees  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 3:51:40am

re: #154 theheat

It pays better. Pop, i.e popular, meaning mainstream, and more album sales. I think once they get rich, some go back to their roots, or experimental side projects, because they can afford to have an album bomb. Up and comers don’t have that luxury.

Likewise, I heard a couple tracks off the much-anticipated Lambert album, and hated them both. Tepid, very tepid. I’d rather he went off and toured with Queen, and had the world at his feet, but he doesn’t much care what I think. Odd, that.

True about the money. I dated a girl in junior high who was a musical prodigy - sang opera, played harp, piano, harpsichord, guitar, flute, clarinet and a few other instruments, wound up getting a Masters at Julliard…and got a job as a park ranger at Walden Pond. She then went on to marry well, but all her immense talent and classical training didn’t mean jack when it came to making even a modest living.

158 Hengineer  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 3:54:12am

re: #157 SixDegrees

True about the money. I dated a girl in junior high who was a musical prodigy - sang opera, played harp, piano, harpsichord, guitar, flute, clarinet and a few other instruments, wound up getting a Masters at Julliard…and got a job as a park ranger at Walden Pond. She then went on to marry well, but all her immense talent and classical training didn’t mean jack when it came to making even a modest living.

But I bet she’s HIT at parties!
//

159 SixDegrees  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 3:54:16am

re: #154 theheat


Likewise, I heard a couple tracks off the much-anticipated Lambert album, and hated them both. Tepid, very tepid.

He may be one of those talents who only does well in front of a live audience - where he’s obviously enjoying himself and feeding off the crowd in the video above. A lot of musicians lose their abilities in the studio - all that mob energy is gone, and they fall flat.

160 razorbacker  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 3:56:05am

re: #145 Hengineer

But you get carpal tunnel like a motha!.

;-)

When you think about it, its a much safer alternative.

Of course it’s a safer alternative. Curling up under the covers with a thumb in your mouth is safer than actually going out in the cold cruel world, too.

Grand Theft Auto is safer than dropping the hammer on a quarter-miler and holding on for dear life, too.

Not too many adrenaline rushes coming your way, though. And that adrenaline is better than cocaine every day.

161 theheat  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 3:56:08am

re: #157 SixDegrees

Your friend could probably pee away more talent than a person like Britney Spears ever had, but that doesn’t seem to matter. I don’t know why some make it and others don’t. Luck seems to factor in a lot more than talent. Being at the right place at the right time, knowing the right people, blah blah.

They don’t call them starving artists for nothing.

162 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 3:56:32am

re: #159 SixDegrees

I’ve seen bands that I hated as far as CD’s go. But they would open for someone and blow me away.

163 SixDegrees  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:00:34am

re: #162 Cannadian Club Akbar

I’ve seen bands that I hated as far as CD’s go. But they would open for someone and blow me away.

I watched the same thing happen on Food Network’s The Next Food Network Star, sort of an AI for foodies. One of the contestants totally blew the rest of the field out of the water in front of a live audience, like a large dinner party for example - he could work a crowd like nobody’s business, and the crowd loved him in return. Put him in a studio in front of a camera, though, and he would go into complete vapor lock. He absolutely required that feedback from an audience to shine.

164 3kids3dogs  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:00:34am

re: #131 SixDegrees

Absolutely. It wasn’t even a contest. In fact, per your advice I wasn’t really watching the video when it started, but as soon as Glambert opened his mouth I immediately snapped to attention involuntarily.

Pity he didn’t win, but I’ve never been able to decipher AI’s judging criteria anyway.

I have no clue as to how successful he’ll be as a professional singer but he was, imo, the best contestant AI has ever had. His background in musical theater, love of theatrical presentations, and incredible voice combined to make him the perfect performer on that type of show.

165 razorbacker  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:01:10am

re: #161 theheat

Best female rock singer I ever heard lives (lived? I’ve lost touch) in Paducah, KY. She’s a wife and mother of two. And she can wail.

Sings with a little band in bars and tiny venues. Doesn’t have a chance in a billion of ever ‘making it’.

166 theheat  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:01:55am

re: #159 SixDegrees

I think he made the album he wanted to make, probably influenced a lot by hitmaking producers he got to work with. But I don’t think the two songs I heard really showcase what he can do. They were those interchangeable, not very memorable songs, like you hear a million times done by other people. I see him more as that rare guy that could fill stadiums, like back in the glam rock or Queen days, and really run with it and become truly iconic. That style suits him to a T.

167 Tiny alien kittens are watching you  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:02:14am

The Guess Who-“American Woman” live

The saw them in concert with Steppenwolf once, they played first and were great, Steppenwolf was kinda sad, must have been an “off” day for them I guess.

168 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:03:05am

re: #166 theheat

Ziggy Stardust-ish?

169 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:04:43am

‘Objects in reflection may be closer than they appear’

170 Hengineer  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:04:46am

re: #165 razorbacker

Best female rock singer I ever heard lives (lived? I’ve lost touch) in Paducah, KY. She’s a wife and mother of two. And she can wail.

Sings with a little band in bars and tiny venues. Doesn’t have a chance in a billion of ever ‘making it’.

Wing probably makes more money

171 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:05:48am

re: #169 Fenway_Nation

‘Objects in reflection may be closer than they appear’

Is that the name of the albumn?

172 Hengineer  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:05:55am

re: #164 3kids3dogs

I have no clue as to how successful he’ll be as a professional singer but he was, imo, the best contestant AI has ever had. His background in musical theater, love of theatrical presentations, and incredible voice combined to make him the perfect performer on that type of show.


He’ll probably do better once he breaks from from the producers who are connected with American Idol. Look at Carrie Underwood she took OFF after that first album and now rivals Shania Twain and Faith Hill

173 soxfan4life  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:06:37am

re: #169 Fenway_Nation

Its those brave outmanned NY Yankees beating the big money best team money can buy Philadelphia Phillies.///

174 theheat  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:07:24am

re: #168 Cannadian Club Akbar

Oh, yeah. He loves Bowie. You can tell. But he also loves Lady Ga Ga, and some peeps I don’t care for, but are wildly successful. But, hey, a lot of great singers didn’t hit their stride until their third album or so, so I’m hopeful.

175 SixDegrees  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:07:38am

re: #162 Cannadian Club Akbar

I’ve seen bands that I hated as far as CD’s go. But they would open for someone and blow me away.

In a different musical genre - I saw a band move me both ways once in a single concert: The Grateful Dead. I was lukewarm to the invitation, but went anyway. When they hit the stage, they really hit it - they were tight, focused, extremely high energy and actually made me want to buy one of their albums. Way better than any recordings I had heard them do.

This went on for about twenty minutes. Then they took a long break, and the drugs either kicked in or they did some more - or both - and when they came back they launched into an hour-long, rambling ad lib of what sounded like random notes and drumbeats, without a melody or even a key in sight.

176 Hengineer  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:07:52am

re: #173 soxfan4life

Its those brave outmanned NY Yankees beating the big money best team money can buy Philadelphia Phillies.///

Tongue, meet cheek.

177 razorbacker  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:08:21am

Sun is rising, and I need to also.

Later.

178 Hengineer  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:08:23am

re: #175 SixDegrees

In a different musical genre - I saw a band move me both ways once in a single concert: The Grateful Dead. I was lukewarm to the invitation, but went anyway. When they hit the stage, they really hit it - they were tight, focused, extremely high energy and actually made me want to buy one of their albums. Way better than any recordings I had heard them do.

This went on for about twenty minutes. Then they took a long break, and the drugs either kicked in or they did some more - or both - and when they came back they launched into an hour-long, rambling ad lib of what sounded like random notes and drumbeats, without a melody or even a key in sight.


You sure it wasn’t Phish?

179 SixDegrees  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:09:07am

re: #178 Hengineer

You sure it wasn’t Phish?

LOL.

180 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:09:14am

re: #173 soxfan4life

Hooray for the scrappy no-name underdogs who won the World Ser- wait…what?

One way to make the baseball season seem like it’s going on forever- have the World Series played well into November.

Another way to make the baseball season drag on excruciatingly? Have the Yankees in the World Series.

Combine the two? Worst WS EVAH!

181 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:09:15am

re: #178 Hengineer

You sure it wasn’t Phish?

Phish is freaking TALENT!!

182 theheat  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:09:53am

re: #167 ausador

Burton Cummings had a great voice, and they were a tight band.

183 Tiny alien kittens are watching you  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:09:58am

The Police - “Walkin On The Moon” live

184 theheat  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:10:52am

re: #180 Fenway_Nation

You might have to take down all your Yankee posters. Sigh.
//

185 Bloodnok  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:11:06am

Some morning loveliness. An improv piece by King Crimson for bass guitar, violin and mellotron. It starts off as noodling, but jells before your ears into a lovely melody.

Trio

186 soxfan4life  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:11:18am

re: #180 Fenway_Nation

Cuts down on the number of days we have to wait until spring training.

187 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:12:10am

re: #184 theheat

You might have to take down all your Yankee posters. Sigh.
//

Those are dartboards.

188 Hengineer  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:12:13am

re: #181 Cannadian Club Akbar

Phish is freaking TALENT!!

The only exposure of Phish I have is from a couple of 3rd Mate in trainees…Deck Cadets who were on my Senior Training cruise with California Maritime Academy. They had a DVD of Phish playing live and I couldn’t bear more than ten minutes of the drug laced hippie fest without recognizable music.

189 soxfan4life  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:12:26am

re: #180 Fenway_Nation

Way to step up Texiera and A-Rod.

190 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:12:49am

re: #186 soxfan4life

Cuts down on the number of days we have to wait until spring training.

I have about 6 or 7 teams within an hour of me for spring training. Nice.

191 Hengineer  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:13:48am

re: #186 soxfan4life

Cuts down on the number of days we have to wait until spring training.

Meh, I just pay attention to the upcoming World Cup.

I’m glad Bradley hasn’t completely fucked up yet since the CONCACAF Gold Cup fiasco.

192 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:14:28am

re: #188 Hengineer

One of the guys from Phish has toured with Dave Mathews. Very nice.

193 Hengineer  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:14:39am

re: #191 Hengineer

Meh, I just pay attention to the upcoming World Cup.

I’m glad Bradley hasn’t completely fucked up yet since the CONCACAF Gold Cup fiasco.

On a side note, I was actually there at the Gold Cup in Jersey. Maybe I’ll post what little pictures and video I had somewhere…

194 Hengineer  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:15:03am

re: #192 Cannadian Club Akbar

One of the guys from Phish has toured with Dave Mathews. Very nice.

Not really into Dave Matthews, but ok

195 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:15:27am
196 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:16:20am

re: #195 Fenway_Nation

No worries- I’m in my happy place…

What did you think of that $3.4 billion merger, BTW?

197 theheat  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:16:22am

re: #194 Hengineer

I used to think it was a thought crime to not love DMB, until I found other people that shared my lack of enthusiasm. Something about a rare combination of talent, but being really icky at the same time = unpalatable for me.

198 Hengineer  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:17:53am

re: #197 theheat

I used to think it was a thought crime to not love DMB, until I found other people that shared my lack of enthusiasm. Something about a rare combination of talent, but being really icky at the same time = unpalatable for me.

You should see it from my perspective. I was in college when he was getting really big…

199 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:18:56am

re: #197 theheat

I saw DMB once, 20 minute wait to get a beer. Left early, went to the casino and won $450:)

200 Tiny alien kittens are watching you  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:19:16am

The Police - “On any other day”

Funny song from the ‘Regatta de Blanc’ album, with a fan made video useing dolls, cute.

201 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:19:36am

re: #196 Cannadian Club Akbar

Move the decimal point over one…that deal’s estimated to be worth $34 billion.

Ballsy- I think Buffet has himself a hedge against most kinds of economic downturn (a good chunk of BNSF’s traffic is agricultural) and a moneymaker whenever the economy is…well…chugging along.

202 theheat  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:19:52am

re: #195 Fenway_Nation

Sorry, Jewel ain’t doing for the females. Rusty trains, okay, but lady pinups, nooo. The day you have rusty trains and, oh, Glambert, or some hetero stud on there, I’ll give you five stars. Tonight, it’s a 2.5.

203 soxfan4life  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:20:13am

re: #187 Fenway_Nation

Those are dartboards.

I use my hope and yes we can posters for that.

204 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:21:02am

re: #203 soxfan4life

I superimposed Jeter’s face on those…

205 Hengineer  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:21:22am

re: #202 theheat

Sorry, Jewel ain’t doing for the females. Rusty trains, okay, but lady pinups, nooo. The day you have rusty trains and, oh, Glambert, or some hetero stud on there, I’ll give you five stars. Tonight, it’s a 2.5.

depends on the female

///

206 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:22:08am

re: #202 theheat

That was last month’s, theheat…just felt like revisiting it for some reason.

207 theheat  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:22:35am

re: #198 Hengineer

I was at a party up in the Seattle area around that time, where a bunch of DMB fans were, and all night long it was DMB and Lionel Lovett, and a bunch of guys in their freakin’ Birkenstocks and man purses, raving about DMB like they’d found the Holy Grail. I couldn’t drink enough designer microbrews to ignore how godawful it was. I was at the point of chewing my arm off to get away.

208 Hengineer  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:23:28am

re: #207 theheat

I was at a party up in the Seattle area around that time, where a bunch of DMB fans were, and all night long it was DMB and Lionel Lovett, and a bunch of guys in their freakin’ Birkenstocks and man purses, raving about DMB like they’d found the Holy Grail. I couldn’t drink enough designer microbrews to ignore how godawful it was. I was at the point of chewing my arm off to get away.

Did it taste good?

209 3kids3dogs  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:23:32am

re: #172 Hengineer

He’ll probably do better once he breaks from from the producers who are connected with American Idol. Look at Carrie Underwood she took OFF after that first album and now rivals Shania Twain and Faith Hill

Getting away from the AI producers will probably be a big help but I’m unsure that he’ll ever sell records the way Carrie Underwood or Kelly Clarkson does. Frankly, I’m surprised he made it as far as he did on the show. He certainly provoked strong emotions from both his supporters and detractors. I wasn’t a fan at first, I thought what he did with “Ring of Fire” was horrible. But the very next week he blew me away with “Tracks of My Tears” and I’ve been a fan ever since. I don’t know that I’d ever by a CD of his but I’d pay to see him live.

210 soxfan4life  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:23:34am

re: #201 Fenway_Nation

You mean old Warren actually has some smarts he uses to make his fortune? Certainly he’s not smart enough to minimize the amount of taxes he’s going to pay with the current tax the living hell out of the rich administration.

211 theheat  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:24:08am

re: #208 Hengineer

My arm? Not so much. Had to chase it down with a lot of beer.

212 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:25:09am

Barak Obama- 1 year later (aka ‘Grim Milestone’)

213 Hengineer  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:26:04am

re: #209 3kids3dogs

Getting away from the AI producers will probably be a big help but I’m unsure that he’ll ever sell records the way Carrie Underwood or Kelly Clarkson does. Frankly, I’m surprised he made it as far as he did on the show. He certainly provoked strong emotions from both his supporters and detractors. I wasn’t a fan at first, I thought what he did with “Ring of Fire” was horrible. But the very next week he blew me away with “Tracks of My Tears” and I’ve been a fan ever since. I don’t know that I’d ever by a CD of his but I’d pay to see him live.

It takes a certain kind of singer to pull off a Johnny Cash song well…and that doesn’t mean that you have to sing well, either.

214 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:27:28am

re: #212 Fenway_Nation

Barak Obama- 1 year later (aka ‘Grim Milestone’)

Nice.

215 theheat  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:27:31am

re: #209 3kids3dogs

Agreed. Ring of Fire sucked so hard it brought tears to my eyes, but Tracks of My Tears was a wonderful. My favorite cover of Ring of Fire is by one of my favorite bands, Social Distortion. They’d pulled out all the stops, and I loved it.

216 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:27:58am

re: #210 soxfan4life

Heh,,,any household that makes more than $120,000 combined annually is Daddy Warbucks as far as this admin. is concerned.

217 Pamela Gellar [sic(k)]  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:28:02am

Reminder: tonight is Bonfire Night! aka guy fawkes night.

The Gunpowder plot of 1605

After Queen Elizabeth I died in 1603, English Catholics who had been persecuted under her rule had hoped that her successor, James I, would be more tolerant of their religion. James I had, after all, had a Catholic mother. Unfortunately, James did not turn out to be more tolerant than Elizabeth and a number of young men, 13 to be exact, decided that violent action was the answer.

A small group took shape, under the leadership of Robert Catesby. Catesby felt that violent action was warranted. Indeed, the thing to do was to blow up the Houses of Parliament. In doing so, they would kill the King, maybe even the Prince of Wales, and the Members of Parliament who were making life difficult for the Catholics. Today these conspirators would be known as extremists, or terrorists.

To carry out their plan, the conspirators got hold of 36 barrels of gunpowder - and stored them in a cellar, just under the House of Lords.

218 Hengineer  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:28:26am

re: #215 theheat

Agreed. Ring of Fire sucked so hard it brought tears to my eyes, but Tracks of My Tears was a wonderful. My favorite cover of Ring of Fire is by one of my favorite bands, Social Distortion. They’d pulled out all the stops, and I loved it.

[Video]

In the reverse direction, Johnny Cash’s cover of Hurt (by NIN) is one of my favorite he’s every done.

219 Hengineer  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:28:53am

re: #216 Fenway_Nation

Heh,,,any household that makes more than $120,000 combined annually is Daddy Warbucks as far as this admin. is concerned.


What about individuals that make that much?

220 3kids3dogs  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:29:36am

re: #213 Hengineer

It takes a certain kind of singer to pull off a Johnny Cash song well…and that doesn’t mean that you have to sing well, either.

Song selection is a big part of being successful on the show. Too many of the contestants like singing their favorite songs and the results are often disastrous. They should concentrate on songs that they can sing well.

221 theheat  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:30:06am

re: #218 Hengineer

In both cases, the person covering the song “got it”, and made it theirs. I liked Johnny Cash’s NIN cover, too.

222 soxfan4life  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:30:08am

re: #219 Hengineer

What about individuals that make that much?

Prime targets to pay for their sweeping reforms.

223 Hengineer  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:30:32am

re: #210 soxfan4life

You mean old Warren actually has some smarts he uses to make his fortune? Certainly he’s not smart enough to minimize the amount of taxes he’s going to pay with the current tax the living hell out of the rich administration.

He’s not a socialist or a democrat, he’s a populist…

224 3kids3dogs  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:31:03am

re: #215 theheat

If I recall correctly, Smokey was the first out of his seat and applauding.

225 Pamela Gellar [sic(k)]  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:32:05am

re: #218 Hengineer

In the reverse direction, Johnny Cash’s cover of Hurt (by NIN) is one of my favorite he’s every done.

Same here. His cover of One is better than the original IMO.

226 theheat  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:33:20am

re: #224 3kids3dogs

That’s what I read. I didn’t think anyone could really do the song justice after Smokey, but Glambert nailed it.

227 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:33:42am

re: #219 Hengineer

What about individuals that make that much?

It’s still not that much —in many places in this country. Downtown Chicago? You still couldn’t afford a parking place.

228 Hengineer  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:33:45am

re: #225 iceweasel

Same here. His cover of One is better than the original IMO.

I agree, that one was a U2 cover…

229 Jimmah  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:34:11am

re: #217 iceweasel

Reminder: tonight is Bonfire Night! aka guy fawkes night.

The Gunpowder plot of 1605

There will be fireworks tonight.

:)

230 Hengineer  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:34:19am

re: #227 ggt

It’s still not that much —in many places in this country. Downtown Chicago? You still couldn’t afford a parking place.

Handicapped placards cost that much on the black market now?
///

231 Hengineer  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:36:00am

On the subject of covers, Metallica’s Astronomy is better than the original Blue Oyster Cult…(imho)

232 Pamela Gellar [sic(k)]  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:38:17am

re: #228 Hengineer

I agree, that one was a U2 cover…

Yep. Never really liked it much when U2 did it. Johnny though…

233 Hengineer  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:39:37am

re: #232 iceweasel

Yep. Never really liked it much when U2 did it. Johnny though…

I agree, Johnny’s voice has so much sadness attached to it it makes you WANT everybody to love everybody else…

234 SixDegrees  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:40:14am

re: #221 theheat

In both cases, the person covering the song “got it”, and made it theirs. I liked Johnny Cash’s NIN cover, too.

Speaking of Cash, I heard some cuts from his daughter Rosanne’s latest album, The List, that are awesome. The list in question was given to her by her dad, and contained what in his opinion were the songs that made up the essence of country music. Sea of Heartbreak is especially good, and none are bad.

235 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:40:46am

re: #231 Hengineer


How about Siouxsie’s cover of Iggy Pop’s The Passenger?

236 Hengineer  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:41:26am

re: #235 Fenway_Nation

How about Siouxsie’s cover of Iggy Pop’s The Passenger?

[Video]

Don’t know it, and can’t go to youtube

237 theheat  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:41:57am

re: #234 SixDegrees

Oh, I like her a lot. Did you ever see the special she did on the country music network with Steve Earle? Wow. They were amazing together.

238 Pamela Gellar [sic(k)]  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:42:03am

re: #233 Hengineer

I agree, Johnny’s voice has so much sadness attached to it it makes you WANT everybody to love everybody else…

Absolutely. It’s just aching in that special Johnny way…some of the same quality that makes his cover of Hurt so amazing, come to think of it. Really makes you want to see people find each other.

re: #229 Jimmah

There will be fireworks tonight.

:)

And bonfires too! And the burning of effigies! :)

239 SixDegrees  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:42:09am

re: #210 soxfan4life

You mean old Warren actually has some smarts he uses to make his fortune? Certainly he’s not smart enough to minimize the amount of taxes he’s going to pay with the current tax the living hell out of the rich administration.

He already severely minimized his tax burden by transferring most of his fortune to various charities and foundations, leaving himself with a paltry billion to get by on in his declining years.

240 SixDegrees  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:43:03am

re: #237 theheat

Oh, I like her a lot. Did you ever see the special she did on the country music network with Steve Earle? Wow. They were amazing together.

No, missed it. If you like her, I highly recommend this album.

241 Hengineer  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:43:40am

re: #238 iceweasel

And bonfires too! And the burning of effigies! :)

Whereas Bono has that uber-liberal “I’m better than you so I want you to love me” kind of voice.

242 3kids3dogs  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:44:42am

re: #225 iceweasel

Same here. His cover of One is better than the original IMO.

I’ll have to find that. One is one of my favorite songs, the lyrics really connect with me for some reason. I’ve also never not enjoyed hearing Johnny Cash perform. Sounds like a winning combination.

243 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:45:01am

re: #236 Hengineer

Oh…well…you’ll just have to take my word for it then.

Not the best, but one of the first covers I could think of…

Of course, there’s also For the Masses…an entire album of various artists (The Cure, Smashing Pumpkins, Rammstein) covering Depeche Mode.

244 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:46:07am

Drat…’nite all

245 Pamela Gellar [sic(k)]  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:47:20am

re: #241 Hengineer

Whereas Bono has that uber-liberal “I’m better than you so I want you to love me” kind of voice.

haha— yes.
Really it just struck me as your ordinary pop song when they did it. I didn’t like it at all.
Bono is pretty damn annoying.

246 Jimmah  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:47:24am

re: #238 iceweasel

And bonfires too! And the burning of effigies! :)

Definitely! Tonight is the night.

“Oh, but the fire went wild” :)

247 theheat  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:47:30am

re: #243 Fenway_Nation

Come to think of it, how about some Dave Gahan or Mike Ness next to the Jewel and Jennifer Tilly? Just throwing some ideas out there…

248 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:48:14am

re: #245 iceweasel

haha— yes.
Really it just struck me as your ordinary pop song when they did it. I didn’t like it at all.
Bono is pretty damn annoying.

Beyond annoying!

249 theheat  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:48:42am

re: #245 iceweasel

He suffers from serious sessy depletion. Annually, his doability quotient has dropped until he’s pulling negative numbers.

250 Pamela Gellar [sic(k)]  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:48:47am

re: #242 3kids3dogs

I’ll have to find that. One is one of my favorite songs, the lyrics really connect with me for some reason. I’ve also never not enjoyed hearing Johnny Cash perform. Sounds like a winning combination.

Try this— I can’t play you tube at the moment.

251 3kids3dogs  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:49:19am

re: #241 Hengineer

Whereas Bono has that uber-liberal “I’m better than you so I want you to love me” kind of voice.

Must politics infect everything. If you didn’t know his politics would you be able to identify him as an “uber-liberal” just from the sound of his voice?

252 SixDegrees  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:49:44am

re: #240 SixDegrees

No, missed it. If you like her, I highly recommend this album.

Turns out NPR likes this album, too. Here’s an interview they did with Cash that focuses on Sea of Heartbreak, along with cuts from her version of it.

253 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:50:37am

another WTF?

254 Pamela Gellar [sic(k)]  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:51:13am

re: #250 iceweasel

Try this— I can’t play you tube at the moment.

[Video]

Wait, those are some douchebags covering the cover…yikes.

255 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:53:05am
256 theheat  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:53:15am

re: #253 ggt

Court records show that Elizabeth Baker was charged in South Carolina with assault and battery with intent to kill and assault and battery of a high and aggravated nature in 1987. After being convicted, she was sentenced to 10 years in prison. The sentence was suspended to 80 days.

Yeah, that’ll learn her. 80 whole days.

What a piece of garbage. Some seriously fucked up wiring there.

257 SixDegrees  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:55:51am

re: #256 theheat

Yeah, that’ll learn her. 80 whole days.

What a piece of garbage. Some seriously fucked up wiring there.

I also wonder, as usual, about child services. They looked into complaints against the parents, found nothing wrong at the home, nothing wrong with the parents, consulted a physician who said there was nothing wrong with the baby…and found the risk to the child to be “intermediate.”

Huh? You didn’t find anything wrong, but there’s an “intermediate” risk? What the fuck was it, then? Didn’t you like the blouse the wife was wearing?

258 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:55:56am

bbiab

259 Pamela Gellar [sic(k)]  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:57:06am

re: #256 theheat

Yeah, that’ll learn her. 80 whole days.

What a piece of garbage. Some seriously fucked up wiring there.



She was extradited to South Carolina from Chipley in 2000, and charged in the disappearance of 3-year-old Paul Leonard Baker, who has been missing since March 1987. Baker wasn’t indicted by a grand jury in the case. The child was never found, according to the Beaufort County, S.C., sheriff’s office. Police reports don’t indicate the child’s possible relation.

How horrible! She’s connected to another kid’s disappearance?

260 Pamela Gellar [sic(k)]  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:59:30am

This should be Ash, Shining Light

Bye for now. :)

261 theheat  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 4:59:50am

re: #257 SixDegrees

Wouldn’t an intermediate risk sound any alarms? WTF is an intermediate risk - death in months, instead of the week they visit? Talk about stupid.

Here’s another agency that doesn’t sound like they did their homework, either. Place smells like death warmed over, for months and years, yet they give this convicted offender a gold star after their visits, and never a mention the place smelled like - oh - dead bodies.

262 thedopefishlives  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:00:51am

Morning lizards. Today dawned completely clear, not a cloud in the sky, and 30 degrees here in the wild north country. I’d say winter is officially entrenched, except we’re not buried in a foot of snow yet. ;) I see this has been a particularly active overnight thread; what’s the topic du jour?

263 SixDegrees  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:01:10am

Gotta run. BBL.

264 theheat  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:03:25am

re: #262 thedopefishlives

Music, mostly. A little politics, and how agencies that don’t see big flashing danger signs over the heads of habitual criminals and offenders. Oh, and Fenway might put some mens on his site for the ladies here. Right, Fenway?

265 [deleted]  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:03:31am
266 theheat  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:05:59am

re: #265 MandyManners

Little Heat was 9+ when he was born, for crying out loud. I think by 7 months he was eating Hungry Man dinners and shaving.

This is just pathetic. How can social workers think all this is okay? I just don’t get it. It only takes the tiniest measure of common sense to see this was horribly wrong any way you look at it.

267 [deleted]  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:07:59am
268 Tiny alien kittens are watching you  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:08:50am

Soul Coughing - “Soft Serve”

269 [deleted]  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:09:56am
270 theheat  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:09:57am

re: #267 MandyManners

Fact is, any one of those concerns by itself should have been enough to jerk that kid away. I doubt anyone was looking too closely, and now it’s time to start covering their ass.

271 theheat  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:11:19am

re: #269 MandyManners

If he hadn’t been found, he’d sure enough be dead as if they murdered him outright. Sick fucking assholes.

272 [deleted]  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:11:24am
273 Soundboard Fez  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:12:20am

re: #251 3kids3dogs

Must politics infect everything. If you didn’t know his politics would you be able to identify him as an “uber-liberal” just from the sound of his voice?

Agreed. And Bono ended up making buddies with Jesse Helms of all people. If only more uber-partisans would be willing to engage in dialogues instead of just shouting down and insulting anybody who opposes them …

And I refuse to allow politics to influence my taste in music. Dropkick Murphys are one of my favorite bands, despite the fact that they appear to believe that unions should control the universe. And I even bought both of Cat Stevens’ (Yusuf now I guess) new albums and highly recommend them (with the exception of a couple songs at the end of An Other Cup, easily removed from ipod).

274 [deleted]  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:12:34am
275 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:13:41am

re: #58 Cannadian Club Akbar

I have a job interview today. Pay is about 55% of what I usually make and is 30 miles from home. Ugh. And the bad thing is, last night I sent out 2 resumes where I could earn what I deserve. If I take this job, one of the others will call. If I don’t, neither will call. Stupid Murphy’s Law.

Hope the best scenario wins out.

276 Soundboard Fez  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:14:42am

re: #255 ggt

Voters’ memo to politicians: We’re angry and fearful, mostly about jobs and the economy.”

Think the Republican’s will get the message?

/

Steele seems to know what he’s doing. If only the loudmouths behind the keyboards and microphones would give him room to do his job…

277 Tiny alien kittens are watching you  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:15:15am

Tracy Chapman - “Fast Car” live

278 theheat  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:15:51am

re: #272 MandyManners

In the case of the mom, if she’s convicted, I’m all for forced sterilization. I don’t give a shit about their rights. Anyone convicted of such egregious child abuse has no business having children, or caring for them. They’re no better than a rapist/murderer, and they pose a mortal danger to the most helpless of all things - babies.

279 thedopefishlives  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:15:58am

re: #274 MandyManners

How in the hell can a woman give birth to another human being and then treat it like dirt?

When the woman in question doesn’t regard it as a human being.

280 [deleted]  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:16:12am
281 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:16:27am

I can see myself.

282 [deleted]  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:16:54am
283 [deleted]  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:17:25am
284 [deleted]  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:19:05am
285 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:19:18am
286 [deleted]  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:19:25am
287 thedopefishlives  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:19:25am

re: #283 MandyManners

Where’s the baby daddy?

Men are, unfortunately, even more prone to regarding their kids as subhuman and not worth their time than women. In fact, many men these days seem to think the women they sleep with aren’t even human.

288 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:20:05am

re: #207 theheat

I was at a party up in the Seattle area around that time, where a bunch of DMB fans were, and all night long it was DMB and Lionel Lovett, and a bunch of guys in their freakin’ Birkenstocks and man purses, raving about DMB like they’d found the Holy Grail. I couldn’t drink enough designer microbrews to ignore how godawful it was. I was at the point of chewing my arm off to get away.

LOL. I went to see DMB at a bar in Charlottesville when they were just a popular local band. I wanted to see what all the buzz was about. The crowd was big, After I got my beer the band started playing and the crowd broke into a Grateful Dead dance. I didn’t get it. I spent the rest of the time shooting pool.

289 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:21:53am

re: #288 NJDhockeyfan

Love DMB.

Hate DMB fans.

Love Lyle Lovett.

Oh, that’s it. Just love Lyle Lovett.

290 Hengineer  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:23:36am

re: #273 Soundboard Fez

Agreed. And Bono ended up making buddies with Jesse Helms of all people. If only more uber-partisans would be willing to engage in dialogues instead of just shouting down and insulting anybody who opposes them …

And I refuse to allow politics to influence my taste in music. Dropkick Murphys are one of my favorite bands, despite the fact that they appear to believe that unions should control the universe. And I even bought both of Cat Stevens’ (Yusuf now I guess) new albums and highly recommend them (with the exception of a couple songs at the end of An Other Cup, easily removed from ipod).

I’m not talking about that, I do enjoy some of U2’s music, I just hate it when any musician uses his popularity as a platform for his or her political beliefs. Oh and I like Dropkick Murphy’s too

291 3kids3dogs  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:24:24am

re: #273 Soundboard Fez

Agreed. And Bono ended up making buddies with Jesse Helms of all people. If only more uber-partisans would be willing to engage in dialogues instead of just shouting down and insulting anybody who opposes them …

And I refuse to allow politics to influence my taste in music. Dropkick Murphys are one of my favorite bands, despite the fact that they appear to believe that unions should control the universe. And I even bought both of Cat Stevens’ (Yusuf now I guess) new albums and highly recommend them (with the exception of a couple songs at the end of An Other Cup, easily removed from ipod).

I know many people find Bono quite annoying and it’s understandable - he can be very preachy at times. Like him or don’t like him, like his politics or don’t like them; I certainly don’t care. But to say his voice is “uber-liberal” is almost beyond comprehension to me. He has a high profile and chooses to lend that profile to causes that he thinks will make the world a better place. I applaud him for that. He could just lay around getting high and chasing skirts.

292 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:24:58am

re: #290 Hengineer

I think U2 peaked with The Joshua Tree. I haven’t heard them do anything worth listening to since then.

293 Tiny alien kittens are watching you  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:25:05am

Traveling Wilburys - “Wilbury Twist” (Now with ferrets!)

294 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:26:03am

re: #280 MandyManners

I LOVE CHAPMAN!

The guy who shot John Lennon?! Oh, you mean Tracy. She’s pretty good.

295 theheat  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:26:05am

re: #289 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh, duh, I don’t know why I said Lionel Lovett. Yeah, it’s Lyle. Maybe the whole experience scarred me.

296 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:26:56am

re: #295 theheat

Oh, duh, I don’t know why I said Lionel Lovett. Yeah, it’s Lyle. Maybe the whole experience scarred me.

I like Lionel Lovett and Lyle Richie.

:)

297 Hengineer  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:27:10am

re: #287 thedopefishlives

Men are, unfortunately, even more prone to regarding their kids as subhuman and not worth their time than women. In fact, many men these days seem to think the women they sleep with aren’t even human.


…and you’re perpetuating the myth. I didn’t know Dr. Phil frequents here…

298 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:27:56am

Man appears alive at own funeral in Brazil

RIO DE JANEIRO — A Brazilian bricklayer reportedly killed in a car crash shocked his mourning family by showing up alive at his funeral.

Relatives of Ademir Jorge Goncalves, 59, had identified him as the victim of a Sunday night car crash in Parana state in southern Brazil, police said.

As is customary in Brazil, the funeral was held the following day, which happened to be the holiday of Finados, when Brazilians visit cemeteries to honor the dead.

What family members didn’t know was that Goncalves had spent the night at a truck stop talking with friends over drinks of a sugarcane liquor known as cachaca, his niece Rosa Sampaio told the O Globo newspaper. He did not get word about his own funeral until it was already happening Monday morning.

A police spokesman in the town of Santo Antonio da Platina said Goncalves rushed to the funeral to let family members know he was not dead.

299 theheat  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:28:13am

re: #297 Hengineer

Please, no. I can’t even look at Dr. Phil without my gag reflex kicking in.

300 Soundboard Fez  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:28:19am

re: #290 Hengineer

I’m not talking about that, I do enjoy some of U2’s music, I just hate it when any musician uses his popularity as a platform for his or her political beliefs. Oh and I like Dropkick Murphy’s too

Punk rock has tended to go way downhill in the last generation. The Murphys are the exception. How can you go wrong with punk rock, bagpipes, and traditional Irish bar tunes?

301 Hengineer  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:29:16am

re: #300 Soundboard Fez

Punk rock has tended to go way downhill in the last generation. The Murphys are the exception. How can you go wrong with punk rock, bagpipes, and traditional Irish bar tunes?

re: #299 theheat

Please, no. I can’t even look at Dr. Phil without my gag reflex kicking in.

I agree, Flogging Molly’s good too
Oprah’s pet male who perpetuates the male stereotypes that women love to hate.

302 thedopefishlives  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:30:09am

re: #297 Hengineer

…and you’re perpetuating the myth. I didn’t know Dr. Phil frequents here…

And I assume you have statistics to demonstrate how I’m wrong? I’m not just going off of stereotypes here, but it’s also not like I have hard data, either.

303 Hengineer  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:32:35am

re: #302 thedopefishlives

And I assume you have statistics to demonstrate how I’m wrong? I’m not just going off of stereotypes here, but it’s also not like I have hard data, either.

What I mean is the stereotype that its incomprehensible for a woman to hate her own children, but not for a man. A man is convicted of murder when he kills his own family, but when a woman does it, she is obviously insane and cannot be held accountable for her own actions.

Personally, its incomprehensible to me for a man to treat any woman as if she were dirt, let alone his own children.

Stop watching Oprah and go meet some real men.

304 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:32:45am

re: #295 theheat

Honestly? I didn’t notice that. I knew what you meant. My frickin’ nic shoulda been “PIMF”.

305 Tiny alien kittens are watching you  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:33:24am

The Kinks - “Low Budget”

306 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:33:28am

re: #299 theheat

Please, no. I can’t even look at Dr. Phil without my gag reflex kicking in.

How’s that working out for ya?

307 theheat  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:33:54am

re: #301 Hengineer

Rarely a man I’ve never met so completely captures every turnoff a male could possibly embody as Dr. Phil. His looks, his voice, what he says, how he behaves, his smugness, his lackluster substitute for cleverness and humor - every conceivable personification of ick factor - he owns it.

308 thedopefishlives  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:34:00am

re: #303 Hengineer


Stop watching Oprah and go meet some real men.

Two things. One, I didn’t say it was incomprehensible for a woman to hate her own children. I said it was more common for men. Two, I am a man and I was raised in a household that despised Oprah and the feminazi movement, so I would strongly suggest you back off.

309 Soundboard Fez  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:34:17am

re: #299 theheat

Please, no. I can’t even look at Dr. Phil without my gag reflex kicking in.

His voice is ten times worse than even his general visage. Who ever told that creep he should get into media?

310 Hengineer  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:34:46am

re: #308 thedopefishlives

Two things. One, I didn’t say it was incomprehensible for a woman to hate her own children. I said it was more common for men. Two, I am a man and I was raised in a household that despised Oprah and the feminazi movement, so I would strongly suggest you back off.

I’m not personally attacking you, you just came off as if you were personally attacking every man.

311 Decatur Deb  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:35:15am

re: #300 Soundboard Fez

Punk rock has tended to go way downhill in the last generation. The Murphys are the exception. How can you go wrong with punk rock, bagpipes, and traditional Irish bar tunes?

Prodigals:

312 Hengineer  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:35:23am

re: #309 Soundboard Fez

His voice is ten times worse than even his general visage. Who ever told that creep he should get into media?

I don’t know, but Oprah made him who he is today.

313 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:35:30am

re: #292 Mad Al-Jaffee

I think U2 peaked with The Joshua Tree. I haven’t heard them do anything worth listening to since then.

With a few exceptions, I agree.

314 theheat  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:37:34am

re: #306 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

It’s not pretty.

315 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:40:34am

re: #300 Soundboard Fez

Punk rock has tended to go way downhill in the last generation. The Murphys are the exception. How can you go wrong with punk rock, bagpipes, and traditional Irish bar tunes?

Check out the Legendary Shack Shackers. Punk Blues/Country/Rock, fronted by a skinny little bastard who blows a mean harp. I would post some YouTube links, but I’m at work.

316 theheat  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:41:59am

re: #315 Mad Al-Jaffee

317 Soundboard Fez  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:43:13am

re: #315 Mad Al-Jaffee

Check out the Legendary Shack Shackers. Punk Blues/Country/Rock, fronted by a skinny little bastard who blows a mean harp. I would post some YouTube links, but I’m at work.

That sounds right up my alley. I’m at work too but I keep a “check out on itunes” list on my blackberry.

I’ve been listening to a lot of rockabilly recently — Hillbilly Hellcats, Stray Cats, Rev Horton Heat.

318 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:45:26am

re: #317 Soundboard Fez

That sounds right up my alley. I’m at work too but I keep a “check out on itunes” list on my blackberry.

I’ve been listening to a lot of rockabilly recently — Hillbilly Hellcats, Stray Cats, Rev Horton Heat.

You’ll like these guys. I love their covers of “Help Me” and “Bullfrog Blues.”

319 theheat  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:46:16am

I’m off to get something resembling work done. Rock on.

320 3kids3dogs  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:47:54am

re: #290 Hengineer

I just hate it when any musician uses his popularity as a platform for his or her political beliefs.

That’s absolutely fine. I just found very odd, to put it mildly, for you to say that his voice is “uber-liberal”.

321 Tiny alien kittens are watching you  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:49:05am

Delerium - “Silence” Live

322 Soundboard Fez  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:50:38am

re: #318 Mad Al-Jaffee

You’ll like these guys. I love their covers of “Help Me” and “Bullfrog Blues.”

From wiki: “Th’ Legendary Shack Shakers (originally Those, now Th’ or The) are an American punk blues band. They are inspired by punk, Texas polka, Delta blues, rockabilly, gothic rock, and other traditional Southern music genres, formed in Paducah, Kentucky in the mid 1990’s. The band originally had a more traditional rockabilly sound, but later moved away from this and now relies more on its rock and hillbilly influences.”

Oh hell yes. Megathanks for the tip.

323 Hengineer  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:51:13am

re: #321 ausador

Delerium - “Silence” Live

[Video]

I love Sarah’s voice in that song, my favorite is the DJ Tiesto remix of it.

324 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:53:16am

Ah !
A hot cup of coffee and Tracy Chapman in my ear!
Today is going to be a good day!
I know, I’m a simple man !!
Mornin ya’ll!

325 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:57:53am

It’s me!!Isn’t it!!
I had a feeling I was a thread killer!
Sorry! I’ll go now…

326 Hengineer  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:00:46am

re: #325 reloadingisnotahobby

It’s me!!Isn’t it!!
I had a feeling I was a thread killer!
Sorry! I’ll go now…

well stop reloading that weapon and we won’t be afraid.

327 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:01:12am

re: #322 Soundboard Fez


Oh hell yes. Megathanks for the tip.

No problem. I’m sure you’ll like them.

328 Bubblehead II  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:01:39am

Morning all. Did Charles ever say what it was he was testing yesterday?

329 Decatur Deb  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:02:07am

re: #325 reloadingisnotahobby

Time to die…

330 Decatur Deb  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:03:24am

re: #328 Bubblehead II

Morning all. Did Charles ever say what it was he was testing yesterday?

Mark VI A2 Flounceapult?

331 Tiny alien kittens are watching you  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:06:46am

Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers - “Mary Jane’s Last Dance” live

332 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:12:48am

re: #330 Decatur Deb
Like a Pumkin Chucker!!?
Cool!

333 laZardo  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:12:49am

EVENING HONCOS.

I see the Overnight Ocean threads evolved into these.

/and lost their rhyming ring D:

334 Tiny alien kittens are watching you  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:13:52am

Alanis Morissette - “Thank You” live

335 Decatur Deb  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:13:54am

re: #332 reloadingisnotahobby

I think they broke the 1 mile barrier this year.

336 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:14:16am

re: #290 Hengineer

I’m not talking about that, I do enjoy some of U2’s music, I just hate it when any musician uses his popularity as a platform for his or her political beliefs. Oh and I like Dropkick Murphy’s too

I’m inclined to sneer at celebrity activists. So many of them are manifestly sock puppets, or twisted by contempt for the lumpenproles from which they sprang, or are simply trend surfers.

Bono is different. He’s convinced me that he is a sincere Christian, acting from a sincere feeling of Christian charity. He’s rich and famous and obviously likes being both, but from all appearances he still seems to have his head threaded on straight. George Harrison is the only other superstar of comparable eminence I can think of offhand who was equally successful in keeping from being too impressed with himself.

337 laZardo  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:14:52am

re: #330 Decatur Deb

Mark VI A2 Flounceapult?

You mean the Trollmaster 3000-XR Deluxe Grill?

338 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:16:05am

re: #335 Decatur Deb

Yes!
We have some folks here that build bowling ball cannons!
It’s hard to keep busy and productive here…

339 Bubblehead II  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:17:02am

re: #330 Decatur Deb

Mark VI A2 Flounceapult?

Just for S&Gs I both Googled and Yahooed Flounceapult. It came back with one hit each. The stalker blog.

340 Decatur Deb  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:18:37am

re: #338 reloadingisnotahobby

I was wrong—4628 feet in Utah. New record, anyways. I worked at a
place in NJ that had a 5 incher air gun (x-navy).

341 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:22:20am

re: #340 Decatur Deb

Your right!
Still damn impressive!
I’m surprised the gourd didn’t disintegrate!
I’ve pushed bullets so fast they never made it to the target!
Maybe they froze it?
You now what theysay…”Idle hands are …ah..a waste of
forearms”!..Or the like…

342 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:23:02am

re: #340 Decatur Deb

By the way…I’m in Utah!

343 simoom  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:25:16am

I guess this is a parody of some anime’s opening, but it’s kind of amusing on it’s own merits:

My boyfriend is the PRESIDENT
(starring Barack Obama, Hillary and Bill Clinton, Vladimir Putin and more!)

344 Tiny alien kittens are watching you  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:25:16am

Talking Heads - “Girlfriend Is Better” live

345 [deleted]  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:26:24am
346 Decatur Deb  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:27:24am

re: #341 reloadingisnotahobby

Your right!

I’m surprised the gourd didn’t disintegrate!

I’ve pushed bullets so fast they never made it to the target!
.

I’ve seen videos of a guy who grows custom punkins for the shoots.
Used every trick but GM.

We made plastic go very fast.

347 laZardo  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:29:10am

re: #341 reloadingisnotahobby

The only ammo wasted is ammo not expended?

/my personal favorite. 8D

348 laZardo  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:31:56am

re: #343 simoom

I guess this is a parody of some anime’s opening, but it’s kind of amusing on it’s own merits:

My boyfriend is the PRESIDENT
(starring Barack Obama, Hillary and Bill Clinton, Vladimir Putin and more!)

OH U.

349 Decatur Deb  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:35:21am

re: #342 reloadingisnotahobby

By the way…I’m in Utah!

The record shoot was at or from Moab. That’s sacred turf for old
LandRovers.

350 Political Atheist  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:37:32am

re: #342 reloadingisnotahobby

You just reminded me… we can finally get bricks of primers again!

351 [deleted]  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:37:46am
352 [deleted]  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:39:39am
353 Decatur Deb  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:40:12am

re: #350 Rightwingconspirator

You just reminded me… we can finally get bricks of primers again!

Perhaps the fear is dialing back. It’s hard to maintain hysteria as a
way of life.

354 SixDegrees  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:41:00am

re: #353 Decatur Deb

Perhaps the fear is dialing back. It’s hard to maintain hysteria as a
way of life.

Supply. Demand. Rinse and repeat.

355 Decatur Deb  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:41:27am

re: #352 MandyManners

I know. I’m not making sense. But, who could when an armada of cotton havesting machines is rolling down the road? My house is a a long, long way from the road but I can still hear the buggers.

You have cotton? For some reason I put you in a Northern city. Must
be your accent.

356 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:42:00am

re: #349 Decatur Deb

I did Moab with my old Dodge…The wife walked and watch alot!LOL

357 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:43:20am

re: #350 Rightwingconspirator

Ha!
I’m good in that dept…I’m still loading with primers I bought
in 1981…

358 reine.de.tout  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:43:21am

I read a blog from Egypt, called Rantings of a Sandmonkey. He hasn’t posted in a couple of months, until now - here are a couple of interesting articles:

Egyptian Liberals and anti-semitism

And the impending crisis that has the Egyptian Parliament in an uproar - the obsession with virginity.

359 Tiny alien kittens are watching you  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:44:04am

Janes Addiction - “Been Caught Stealing” live

360 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:44:07am

re: #351 MandyManners

Both vegetable and animal!!

361 Decatur Deb  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:44:16am

re: #356 reloadingisnotahobby

It would take me a month and a conex of repair parts to get my
Series III that far. Perhaps on a trip to Burning Man.

362 [deleted]  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:44:24am
363 albusteve  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:44:29am

re: #358 reine.de.tout

I read a blog from Egypt, called Rantings of a Sandmonkey. He hasn’t posted in a couple of months, until now - here are a couple of interesting articles:

Egyptian Liberals and anti-semitism

And the impending crisis that has the Egyptian Parliament in an uproar - the obsession with virginity.

I remember the obsession with my own virginity…a long time back

364 [deleted]  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:45:06am
365 [deleted]  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:47:04am
366 Decatur Deb  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:47:05am

re: #362 MandyManners

Cotton was king here, but peanuts have taken over. A nearby town
has a monument to the boll weevil. (Cue the song.)

367 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:47:40am

re: #361 Decatur Deb
I really miss the Dodge!!
I’m looking for a beater with a good drive line!
Every scratch on the new truck makes me miss it more!

368 [deleted]  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:48:49am
369 Political Atheist  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:49:22am

Waking up…
Anyone else recall Jonathan Livingston. Seagull?

Nice shot there. That’s my favorite seen here in a long while. Hey I never see photo credit on these photographs. Sekret Agent Photographer? I read somewhere Charles does the shots, is this true?

370 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:50:03am

reuters.com

Awesome! Let’s screw over more American industries!
/

371 Tiny alien kittens are watching you  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:50:59am

re: #358 reine.de.tout

Hooray for fake hymens!?

Well it is something to consider in a society where either your family or your husband’s might kill you for not being virginal at marriage. What about the poor girls who lose it via innocent activity or thru accidents, how do they prove it?

They want to ban the product while the real problem is that there is even a demand for it.

372 Decatur Deb  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:52:08am

re: #368 MandyManners

No, that’s good, but thinking of this:

373 albusteve  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:52:15am

re: #369 Rightwingconspirator

Waking up…
Anyone else recall Jonathan Livingston. Seagull?

Nice shot there. That’s my favorite seen here in a long while. Hey I never see photo credit on these photographs. Sekret Agent Photographer? I read somewhere Charles does the shots, is this true?

yes

374 [deleted]  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:54:03am
375 laZardo  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:54:23am

re: #370 Oh no…Sand People!

[Link: www.reuters.com…]

Awesome! Let’s screw over more American industries!
/

“Because you guys would rather get flooded over or have your mansions’ surroundings turn into lifeless desert!”

/speaking of EXTREAM weather, it appears my thesis is probably going to be a debris removal boat.

376 reine.de.tout  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:56:36am

re: #371 ausador

Hooray for fake hymens!?

Well it is something to consider in a society where either your family or your husband’s might kill you for not being virginal at marriage. What about the poor girls who lose it via innocent activity or thru accidents, how do they prove it?

They want to ban the product while the real problem is that there is even a demand for it.

If you read his article … he’s poking fun at the Egyptian legislature.

377 Decatur Deb  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:59:39am

re: #371 ausador

Hooray for fake hymens!?

Great straight line, but I’ve got a choir of Ghost Nuns standing behind me.

378 bosforus  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 6:59:41am

You still here, Mandy?

379 njdhockeyfan  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:02:06am

More fact-checking on the WH fuzzy math…

Illinois data on stimulus-related jobs saved, created don’t add up

More than $4.7 million in federal stimulus aid so far has been funneled to schools in North Chicago, and state and federal officials say that money has saved the jobs of 473 teachers.

Problem is, the district employs only 290 teachers.

“That other number, I don’t know where that came from,” said Lauri Hakanen, superintendent of North Chicago Community Unit Schools District 187.

The Obama administration last week released the first round of data designed to underpin the worthiness of its economic stimulus plan, which so far has directed $1.25 billion to Illinois schools. That money has helped save or create 14,330 school jobs in the state, the administration claimed.

But those statistics, compiled initially by the Illinois State Board of Education, appear riddled with anomalies that raise questions about their validity, according to a Tribune analysis of district-by-district stimulus spending and other state data. Many local school officials were perplexed by the stimulus data attributed to their districts.

In the official report, Wilmette Public Schools District 39 was credited with 166 jobs saved by stimulus aid. Superintendent Raymond Lechner said the number should be zero.

At Dolton-Riverdale School District 148, stimulus funds were said to have saved the equivalent of 382 full-time teaching jobs — 142 more than the district actually has.

A similar discrepancy was found in data for Kankakee School District 111, where the stimulus report logged the equivalent of 665 full-time jobs saved. “That’s impossible,” a top Kankakee school official said, adding that the entire payroll — full and part time — is 600 workers.

But if that suggests the numbers for Illinois may be artificially inflated, then consider the following, which could suggest an undercount:

The totals do not reflect any school jobs saved or created in Chicago, the state’s biggest district and the recipient of at least $293 million in stimulus funds. Chicago schools budget chief Christina Herzog said the district easily saved at least 1,200 jobs because of the stimulus, but didn’t report them as such because of directives from the state board. State officials dispute that.

The district-specific data, obtained through the Freedom of Information Act, also underscore how little of the money has been spent to expand educational opportunities. Statewide, districts reported using most of their stimulus funds to prevent layoffs, with the equivalent of just 222 full-time jobs added to payrolls.

380 bosforus  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:04:11am

re: #369 Rightwingconspirator

He gives his away his position on a near daily basis. I know exactly where that reflection is!
/

381 Bubblehead II  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:06:18am

They found that missing Florida Baby, Alive.

Missing Fla. Baby Found Alive Under Baby Sitter’s Bed

A 7-month-old Florida girl missing for five days was found alive in a box hidden under her baby sitter’s bed late Wednesday and authorities say they’ll charge the sitter, her husband and the infant’s mother.

382 albusteve  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:06:55am

re: #379 njdhockeyfan


that crap is already becoming redundant…
washingtonexaminer.com

can’t find it now but just this morning was another story out of Georgia…over 900 jobs saved from a total of 500 employees…the title was “Saving 9 out of 5 Jobs!”

383 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:09:37am

Hey… has anyone heard what happened to Hoffmann and the NY23 election?

384 Sharmuta  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:10:41am

re: #373 albusteve

Good Morning. I thought you might want to know the old guy playing with John Mayer is Robbie McIntosh

385 reine.de.tout  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:11:40am

re: #381 Bubblehead II

They found that missing Florida Baby, Alive.

Missing Fla. Baby Found Alive Under Baby Sitter’s Bed

A 7-month-old Florida girl missing for five days was found alive in a box hidden under her baby sitter’s bed late Wednesday and authorities say they’ll charge the sitter, her husband and the infant’s mother.

I’m glad they found the baby alive and well.
What an odd and strange story.

386 Frogmarch  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:11:50am

Hi all.
One of my work colleges is a huge progressive democrat. She’s not just liberal, she’s full-on proggie. She’s a smart business woman who is very good at her craft. In other words, oddly, she’s a capitalist; but she is enthralled with the lefty way. She watches “Democracy Now” and subscribes to the progressive. Anyway… yesterday she said to me that she is sick of politics. She said that if Obama got his way and nationalized the entire health care industry that the US economy would collapse. I thought maybe she was kidding. She wasn’t. I’ll add this little bit of anecdotal information to the other lefty family members who have told me openly that they have soured on some of the left’s more radical and unworkable ideas.
Me? I think some on the left are figuring out that all of this government control will not be sustainable.

…and other thoughts on capitalism and free-markets.

387 Tiny alien kittens are watching you  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:12:05am

re: #383 Walter L. Newton

Hey… has anyone heard what happened to Hoffmann and the NY23 election?

Not one word, I’m mystified really, I sure hope you know what happened and can tell us Walter.

388 Tiny alien kittens are watching you  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:12:45am

re: #387 ausador

/sarc
PIMF

389 Sharmuta  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:13:26am

There was an election?

390 laZardo  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:13:31am

re: #386 Frogmarch

Hi all.
One of my work colleges is a huge progressive democrat. She’s not just liberal, she’s full-on proggie. She’s a smart business woman who is very good at her craft. In other words, oddly, she’s a capitalist; but she is enthralled with the lefty way. She watches “Democracy Now” and subscribes to the progressive. Anyway… yesterday she said to me that she is sick of politics. She said that if Obama got his way and nationalized the entire health care industry that the US economy would collapse. I thought maybe she was kidding. She wasn’t. I’ll add this little bit of anecdotal information to the other lefty family members who have told me openly that they have soured on some of the left’s more radical and unworkable ideas.
Me? I think some on the left are figuring out that all of this government control will not be sustainable.

…and other thoughts on capitalism and free-markets.

ENCROTCHING FACISIM!

/ :B

391 Decatur Deb  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:13:45am

re: #383 Walter L. Newton

Hey… has anyone heard what happened to Hoffmann and the NY23 election?

Charlie Crist won.

392 J.S.  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:14:10am

re: #383 Walter L. Newton

who’s Hoffmann? never heard of ‘im…

/

393 laZardo  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:14:54am

re: #381 Bubblehead II

They found that missing Florida Baby, Alive.

Missing Fla. Baby Found Alive Under Baby Sitter’s Bed

A 7-month-old Florida girl missing for five days was found alive in a box hidden under her baby sitter’s bed late Wednesday and authorities say they’ll charge the sitter, her husband and the infant’s mother.

“Whoever did this could’ve drove the baby all the way to Atlanta by now.”
“Or maybe… [sunglasses]…sometimes what we’re looking for is right under our noses.”

/YYYEEEAAAHHH

394 njdhockeyfan  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:15:06am

re: #382 albusteve

that crap is already becoming redundant…
[Link: www.washingtonexaminer.com…]

can’t find it now but just this morning was another story out of Georgia…over 900 jobs saved from a total of 500 employees…the title was “Saving 9 out of 5 Jobs!”

Yes, here it is.

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama’s economic recovery program saved 935 jobs at the Southwest Georgia Community Action Council, an impressive success story for the stimulus plan. Trouble is, only 508 people work there.

The Georgia nonprofit’s inflated job count is among persisting errors in the government’s latest effort to measure the effect of the $787 billion stimulus plan despite White House promises last week that the new data would undergo an “extensive review” to root out errors discovered in an earlier report.

About two-thirds of the 14,506 jobs claimed to be saved under one federal office, the Administration for Children and Families at Health and Human Services, actually weren’t saved at all, according to a review of the latest data by The Associated Press. Instead, that figure includes more than 9,300 existing employees in hundreds of local agencies who received pay raises and benefits and whose jobs weren’t saved.

The Obama administration just makes up numbers and expect everyone to except them. What kind of fools do they think we are?

395 albusteve  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:15:41am

re: #384 Sharmuta

Good Morning. I thought you might want to know the old guy playing with John Mayer is Robbie McIntosh


sleuth, heh…nice catch..he sure has a pile of credit for his playing…they make a tasty duo…but really, Mayers power trio (last night) really knocks me out…it’s all good

396 Frogmarch  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:15:55am

re: #383 Walter L. Newton

Hey… has anyone heard what happened to Hoffmann and the NY23 election?

GOP Stalinists came in and fire-hosed the entire district. At least that’s what Frank Rich told me. It’s a first in political history.

397 Frogmarch  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:17:49am

re: #390 laZardo

ENCROTCHING FACISIM!

/ :B

You got that right.

398 Sharmuta  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:20:17am

re: #395 albusteve

Lovin’ the Trio, eh? This one is upbeat, good for the morning:

Although I like the more polished version here, Albusteve:

399 albusteve  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:22:17am

re: #384 Sharmuta

nice opening, then a power drum riff, the lights pop up and boom! right into the next section…what a great arrangement…this band is just very talented and everybody gets into it…even some B3…yowza!

400 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:23:18am

re: #396 Frogmarch

GOP Stalinists came in and fire-hosed the entire district. At least that’s what Frank Rich told me. It’s a first in political history.

The only thing I heard (from some blogs) was whatever happened in NY23, that it brought the whole GOP down and except for a few independents walking around in a daze, there is nothing left after the conflagration on Tuesday…

Oh the humanity…

401 Sharmuta  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:23:45am

re: #399 albusteve

Here’s some real bluesy Trio for you:

402 lawhawk  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:24:48am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Everyone is a little slower to get around this morning, particularly because of last night’s festivities at Yankee Stadium where the Yanks once again became the evil empire and won their 27th World Championship. Phillie fans can digest that; and Jimmie Rollins isn’t so much Nostradamus as he was a nonfactor in the series. The Phillies couldn’t hit and they couldn’t pitch (other than Cliff Lee, who was a midseason addition along with Pedro Martinez who once again found the Yanks were his daddy).

The City is also dealing with the fallout from Tuesday’s elections, and people are wondering what if Obama had come calling to help Democrat Bill Thompson attempt to defeat Mike Bloomberg’s reelection effort. For all the issues with the GOP and the schism over NY-23, the NYC efforts appear to have revealed some serious issues among Democrats.

Thompson came close, but Obama and the White House did nothing to help.

There’s a reason for that as it appears that there was a quid pro quo between Bloomberg and Obama not to interfere in the other’s elections. If that’s the case, it wouldn’t have mattered who ran on the Democratic ticket; the White House wasn’t going to step in.

403 albusteve  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:24:57am

re: #401 Sharmuta

heh…I’m still up above…I listen to every note, and you’re way ahead of me!

404 Decatur Deb  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:26:42am

re: #401 Sharmuta

Here’s some real bluesy Trio for you:


Like my blues in the night.

405 lawhawk  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:27:06am

re: #383 Walter L. Newton

NY23? That’s one of the prettiest roads running through the Catskills. You mean something happened to close the road? ///

406 Sharmuta  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:27:45am

re: #404 Decatur Deb

Me too, but for albusteve, I’ll make an exception. I played him most of the really good stuff last night, so I’m running out of videos! :D

407 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:29:11am

re: #402 lawhawk

[snip]

… the NYC efforts appear to have revealed some serious issues among Democrats.

[snip]

Don’t think so Lawhawk. As Nancy Pelosi said, they won yesterday, so you must be imagining all this.

408 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:30:01am

re: #405 lawhawk

NY23? That’s one of the prettiest roads running through the Catskills. You mean something happened to close the road? ///

Yes… ignorance.

409 Decatur Deb  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:30:30am

re: #407 Walter L. Newton

Don’t think so Lawhawk. As Nancy Pelosi said, they won yesterday, so you must be imagining all this.

“When the battle is going badly, put out more flags.”

410 RogueOne  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:31:22am

mornin all

411 albusteve  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:31:51am

re: #404 Decatur Deb

Like my blues in the night.

blues, R/Bre: #401 Sharmuta

…24/7/365

412 Sharmuta  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:32:30am

re: #411 albusteve

413 Spider Mensch  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:33:02am

re: #400 Walter L. Newton

The only thing I heard (from some blogs) was whatever happened in NY23, that it brought the whole GOP down and except for a few independents walking around in a daze, there is nothing left after the conflagration on Tuesday…

Oh the humanity…

yes, ny 23 will forever be known from this day forward as the waterloo of the republican party…why I hear Joan baez is recording a version of “The night they drove old Dixie down” to commemorate the end of the republican party..”The Night they drove the old pachyderm’s down” will be the new title.

414 albusteve  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:35:07am

re: #406 Sharmuta

nothing like a wall of sound…but a trio takes three very talented players and alot of guts…all the gaps have to get filled, and the guitarist has to be especially versatile…of course they get it done bigtime, think of how few trios were really great

415 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:35:59am

re: #383 Walter L. Newton

Hey… has anyone heard what happened to Hoffmann and the NY23 election?

lol.

416 albusteve  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:37:03am

re: #406 Sharmuta

Me too, but for albusteve, I’ll make an exception. I played him most of the really good stuff last night, so I’m running out of videos! :D

notice how high the sound quality is on most of these vids?…it’s no accident

417 lawhawk  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:37:32am

re: #407 Walter L. Newton

Bad dream? Nightmare? Stuck in the Matrix with no hope for Morpheus releasing me from the clutches of the machines? /

418 Sharmuta  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:39:06am

re: #414 albusteve

nothing like a wall of sound…but a trio takes three very talented players and alot of guts…all the gaps have to get filled, and the guitarist has to be especially versatile…of course they get it done bigtime, think of how few trios were really great

419 albusteve  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:39:18am

re: #413 Spider Mensch

yes, ny 23 will forever be known from this day forward as the waterloo of the republican party…why I hear Joan baez is recording a version of “The night they drove old Dixie down” to commemorate the end of the republican party..”The Night they drove the old pachyderm’s down” will be the new title.

don’t be so sure…wait and see, the demise of the GOP is greatly exaggerated…it will evolve or turn back from this dead end

420 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:39:59am

Congress to take 2010 cost of living increase

WASHINGTON. - It’s been said these days that ‘even’ is the new raise which is a statement that rings true for many Americans, but what about Congress?

Our elected officials, who often refer to themselves as public servants, get what’s called a ‘COLA’ or cost of living increase.

In 2009, Congress took their COLA of 2.8 percent at a cost of $2.5 million to you, the taxpayer, which upped their annual salaries to $174,000.

For 2010, Congress is again planning to take their cost of living increase, even as 10 million Americans are out of work or having their own wages frozen.

421 Decatur Deb  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:41:59am

re: #414 albusteve

nothing like a wall of sound…but a trio takes three very talented players and alot of guts…all the gaps have to get filled, and the guitarist has to be especially versatile…of course they get it done bigtime, think of how few trios were really great

Mildly NSFW images. Great sound.

422 RogueOne  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:42:01am

I’m sure this was posted around here yesterday:

Man Spends 9 Mos. In Jail based solely on ID by Police Dog:
nytimes.com

/Luckily, 99.9% of police/prosecutors care about your civil rights.

423 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:42:28am

re: #420 NJDhockeyfan

Congress to take 2010 cost of living increase

Shame?! Congress!? …right.

424 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:42:49am

re: #396 Frogmarch

re: #417 lawhawk

re: #415 Oh no…Sand People!

re: #413 Spider Mensch

re: #409 Decatur Deb

According to the vote count and the level of sarcasm contained with in the comments… I declare Nov. 4th, 2009 as a red letter day and big win for the GOP (sans that silly little waste of time in NY23).

Hey Nancy… we won!

425 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:44:20am

re: #379 njdhockeyfan

More fact-checking on the WH fuzzy math…

Illinois data on stimulus-related jobs saved, created don’t add up

They forgot to count the dead teachers.

426 lawhawk  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:44:38am

re: #424 Walter L. Newton

Well, if Nancy says that they won, and the White House says that it doesn’t matter, who can argue with logic like that. /

427 laZardo  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:44:41am

re: #422 RogueOne

/Luckily, 99.9% of police/prosecutors care about your civil rights.

As for the remaining 0.1%…

428 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:44:42am

Well today’s news sums up America-

We have mindless liberal, slash and burn ideologues like Nancy Pelosi denying that Tuesday was anything but a “win” for her party.

We have mindless SoCon, slash and burn ideologues like Rush Limbaugh denying that Tuesday was anything but a “win” for RINO purging Social Conservatives.

Meanwhile, the people tasked with going to work everyday and actually dealing with the nation’s economic problems are being effective - productivity is way up.

Some people (like my siblings) wonder how I can be conservative on economic issues and indifferent on social ones. My question back is how can any informed person not be?

429 RogueOne  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:44:49am

Remakes?

Goldfinger: Feel Like Makin’ Love!

430 Political Atheist  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:44:57am

re: #373 albusteve

Thx!

431 albusteve  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:44:57am

re: #418 Sharmuta

jackets and ties!, how cool is that!…Buddy Holly would approve…man listen to that bass riffin behind Mayers lead…tres cool

432 Decatur Deb  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:45:06am

re: #420 NJDhockeyfan

Pentagon term for 2.5 million dollars: “budget dust”.

433 Frogmarch  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:45:57am

re: #400 Walter L. Newton

The only thing I heard (from some blogs) was whatever happened in NY23, that it brought the whole GOP down and except for a few independents walking around in a daze, there is nothing left after the conflagration on Tuesday…

Oh the humanity...

The GOP is over. We should now place our trust in Pelosi and Reid.
I do. Follow the light.

434 Sharmuta  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:46:01am

re: #431 albusteve

jackets and ties!, how cool is that!…Buddy Holly would approve…man listen to that bass riffin behind Mayers lead…tres cool

He picked up a good sax player too:

435 Spider Mensch  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:46:13am

re: #419 albusteve

don’t be so sure…wait and see, the demise of the GOP is greatly exaggerated…it will evolve or turn back from this dead end

lol..i didn’t think my post needed the /

436 albusteve  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:46:36am

I nominate LGF for the best music blog on the net

437 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:46:39am

re: #424 Walter L. Newton

re: #417 lawhawk

re: #415 Oh no…Sand People!

re: #413 Spider Mensch

re: #409 Decatur Deb

According to the vote count and the level of sarcasm contained with in the comments… I declare Nov. 4th, 2009 as a red letter day and big win for the GOP (sans that silly little waste of time in NY23).

Hey Nancy… we won!

Addendum to my comment : It may take some time, it may not even be done on a large scale basis, but I would bet if you looted closely at all the local races for this and that on Nov. 4th, 2009, you will also find an interesting in roads made by the GOP and the Independents toward a less government and moderate conservatism.

I know locally, in a blue state, there were a number of small surprises. Small, because in general there was no really big issues being considered, but surprises, because of the unexpected outcomes that spoke of more conservative level of voting.

438 laZardo  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:47:25am

re: #400 Walter L. Newton

The only thing I heard (from some blogs) was whatever happened in NY23, that it brought the whole GOP down and except for a few independents walking around in a daze, there is nothing left after the conflagration on Tuesday…

Oh the humanity…

Back in the 5th grade the school had this ‘play’ of sorts where the kids re-enacted famous radio sketches from the 1920s-1950s.

I was the Hindenburg guy.

/good times!

439 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:48:16am

BBIAB - going to store.

440 bosforus  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:48:22am

re: #420 NJDhockeyfan

Congress to take 2010 cost of living increase

“Cost Of Living Increase”
That does not form the acronym COLA, it forms the acronym COLI. Seems a lot more fitting.

442 Frogmarch  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:48:28am

re: #437 Walter L. Newton

I know locally, in a blue state, there were a number of small surprises. Small, because in general there was no really big issues being considered, but surprises, because of the unexpected outcomes that spoke of more conservative level of voting.


Boulder said “NO” to more $$$ for more open space. Enough already.
Truly. Shocking.

443 albusteve  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:48:49am

re: #421 Decatur Deb

Mildly NSFW images. Great sound.


ahhh…soothing by blues beast

444 bosforus  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:49:19am

re: #437 Walter L. Newton

..but I would bet if you looted closely at all the local races for this and that on Nov. 4th, 2009…

Your inner looter is showing, Walter!

445 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:49:54am

re: #428 karmic_inquisitor

Well today’s news sums up America-

We have mindless liberal, slash and burn ideologues like Nancy Pelosi denying that Tuesday was anything but a “win” for her party.

We have mindless SoCon, slash and burn ideologues like Rush Limbaugh denying that Tuesday was anything but a “win” for RINO purging Social Conservatives.

Meanwhile, the people tasked with going to work everyday and actually dealing with the nation’s economic problems are being effective - productivity is way up.

Some people (like my siblings) wonder how I can be conservative on economic issues and indifferent on social ones. My question back is how can any informed person not be?

I am not indiffernt to social issues, I just don’t think they belong in th realm of federal politics (to the extent they are). The subject always turns sensationalistic. But that’s just me.

446 lawhawk  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:49:55am

OT:
Saudis going after Yemeni rebels inside Yemen after Yemeni thugs crossed into Saudi Arabia. Bear in mind that the border between the two countries is largely unmarked desert.

The northern rebels, known as Hawthis, have been battling Yemeni government forces intensively over the past few months in the latest flare-up of a sporadic conflict that has lasted five years. The Hawthis are based in northern Saada province, which borders Saudi Arabia.

“Saudi jets dropped bombs on a crowded areas including local market in the northern province of Saada,” Hawthi spokesman Mohammed Abdel-Salam told The Associated Press. “They (Saudis) claim they are targeting al-Hawthis, but regrettably they are killing civilians like the government does,” he added.

“The attacks were followed by hundreds of shells from the border,” Abdel-Salam said.

There was no immediate word on casualties.

Two Arab diplomats, speaking on condition of anonymity, told AP Saudi Tornado and F-15 warplanes have been bombarding targets inside Yemen since Wednesday afternoon, inflicting significant casualties on the rebels. The diplomats spoke on condition of anonymity because they are not allowed to talks to the media.

Where will the outrage in the UN come from such unmitigated violence against civilian populations? Where are the resolutions denouncing the Saudis for genocide and slaughter of innocents? Oh wait. Saudi Arabia isn’t Israel. Different country; different rules.

447 J.S.  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:50:10am

re: #422 RogueOne

Then again, he could have been picked out of the line-up by a trained wasp…link (article from 2005).

448 lawhawk  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:50:23am

re: #440 bosforus

COLA - cost of living adjustment, which invariably is an increase.

449 laZardo  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:51:14am

re: #448 lawhawk

Legal mumbojumbo aside, I prefer Pepsi.

450 RogueOne  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:51:33am

re: #447 J.S.

A trained wasp would make a great pet.

451 lawhawk  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:51:49am

re: #442 Frogmarch

NJ approved a $400 million open spaces bond act by a rather thin margin, but the state has regularly done so for years.

I wonder if people realize just how much money that $400 million really costs - annualized and full cost after including interest. If they did, would they still approve it?

452 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:51:50am

Once again, I just get hre and have to leave —

Have a great day all!

453 Frogmarch  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:52:11am

re: #420 NJDhockeyfan

Congress to take 2010 cost of living increase

Instead of a congressional pay raise, how about a furlough? I wonder if we could live without these wonderful micro-managers for a few days?
Scary to ponder. I need big daddy government.

454 bosforus  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:52:34am

re: #448 lawhawk

COLA - cost of living adjustment, which invariably is an increase.

Ah, indeed.

455 laZardo  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:52:41am

re: #452 ggt

bai! :B

456 Decatur Deb  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:52:50am

re: #443 albusteve

Great phrasing, and doesn’t feel the need to improve the classics.

457 albusteve  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:53:53am

re: #434 Sharmuta

He picked up a good sax player too:


brass is okay sometimes, but a sax is as fundamental to the music as the electric guitar…I have one cool (for me) sax story, for me it was a whopper

458 J.S.  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:54:13am

re: #450 RogueOne

They train them by using sugar-water (that’s the “reward”), then have an associated smell (ie, something stinky) near-by the sugar-water. Then the wasps assoicate that smell with sugar-water. Wasps can be trained in under a minute.

459 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:56:07am

re: #453 Frogmarch

Instead of a congressional pay raise, how about a furlough? I wonder if we could live without these wonderful micro-managers for a few days?
Scary to ponder. I need big daddy government.

Then we would miss comedy gold like this.

(CNSNews.com) - When asked by CNSNews.com what specific part of the Constitution authorizes Congress to mandate that individuals must purchase health insurance, Sen. Roland Burris (D-Ill.) pointed to the part of the Constitution that he says authorizes the federal government “to provide for the health, welfare and the defense of the country.” In fact, the word “health” appears nowhere in the Constitution.

“Well, that’s under certainly the laws of the—protect the health, welfare of the country,” said Burris. “That’s under the Constitution. We’re not even dealing with any constitutionality here. Should we move in that direction? What does the Constitution say? To provide for the health, welfare and the defense of the country.”

460 Frogmarch  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:59:10am

re: #451 lawhawk

NJ approved a $400 million open spaces bond act by a rather thin margin, but the state has regularly done so for years.

I wonder if people realize just how much money that $400 million really costs - annualized and full cost after including interest. If they did, would they still approve it?

Open space is a great idea - up to a point. A balance must be found. At some point, the shrinking quarantine of build-able living space becomes so expensive, it no longer makes sense. That, and yes- the cost to buy and maintain. Boulder is surrounded by a ton of open space, open space that we have already paid for over many decades. I don’t even know what’s left?

461 Killgore Trout  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 7:59:54am

re: #459 NJDhockeyfan

It’s pretty unlikely that the Supreme Court is going to rule against healthcare reform. You might have better luck with the Nirth Certifikit.

462 StillAMarine  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:01:14am

re: #450 RogueOne

Wasps may not make great pets, but they are really wonderful door guards. I had a wasp nest on my front porch this Summer, and they tolerated me very well, even allowing me to clean up the area around the nest. They were great for getting rid of unwanted intruders such as the obnoxious religious groups that insist on converting me to their narrow ideology. All other guests were ignored by them.

463 bosforus  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:03:03am

re: #462 StillAMarine

That was your house?!

464 SixDegrees  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:03:08am

re: #461 Killgore Trout

It’s pretty unlikely that the Supreme Court is going to rule against healthcare reform. You might have better luck with the Nirth Certifikit.

I think the point was a Congressman not knowing what’s in the Constitution.

465 StillAMarine  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:03:52am

re: #463 bosforus

Yup. Not the first time it happened, either.

466 albusteve  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:04:03am

re: #461 Killgore Trout

It’s pretty unlikely that the Supreme Court is going to rule against healthcare reform. You might have better luck with the Nirth Certifikit.

the question is not reform, it’s mandating citizens spend their money in a certain way…there is some merit for an argument but that’s what Soto is there for

467 Stanley Sea  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:04:04am

“Today, thousands will pour into Washington to tell Nancy Pelosi and the Congress to send Obama to a death panel…” — Erick Erickson

468 wee fury  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:05:09am

This is a wonderful photo. Thanks, Charles.

469 bosforus  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:05:29am

re: #465 StillAMarine

I am happy to say that in my two years of obnoxious insisting on attempting to convert people to my narrow ideology that I was never stung by a wasp.

470 Tiny alien kittens are watching you  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:06:09am

re: #446 lawhawk

OT:
Saudis going after Yemeni rebels inside Yemen after Yemeni thugs crossed into Saudi Arabia. Bear in mind that the border between the two countries is largely unmarked desert.


Where will the outrage in the UN come from such unmitigated violence against civilian populations? Where are the resolutions denouncing the Saudis for genocide and slaughter of innocents? Oh wait. Saudi Arabia isn’t Israel. Different country; different rules.

The ‘atrocities’ aren’t being committed by Jooos, so nobody gives a damn. Now if you put the Star of David on those planes then things would be completely different.

471 albusteve  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:09:43am

re: #460 Frogmarch

Open space is a great idea - up to a point. A balance must be found. At some point, the shrinking quarantine of build-able living space becomes so expensive, it no longer makes sense. That, and yes- the cost to buy and maintain. Boulder is surrounded by a ton of open space, open space that we have already paid for over many decades. I don’t even know what’s left?

we have alot of open space near ABQ that prohibits expansion…thank god for the Indian reservations

472 Decatur Deb  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:10:30am

re: #464 SixDegrees

I think the point was a Congressman not knowing what’s in the Constitution.

I gave a lib upding. Dumb is dumb, I don’t care what color tie it’s wearing.

473 StillAMarine  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:11:41am

re: #467 Stanley Sea

But … but … Nancy is such great entertainment! Did anyone see her smilingly announce that the Democrats won a great victory when the governors of two important states went to the Republicans? Maybe it was because a Democrat won a contest with a third party opponent with what could arguably be described as having extreme views who joined the race late, and with the Republican candidate dropping out of the race and endorsing the Democrat.
Blinky does not impress me with her wit and wisdom. I have sloshed through mud puddles that are deeper than Nancy Pelosi.

474 StillAMarine  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:13:07am

re: #469 bosforus

I am happy to say that in my two years of obnoxious insisting on attempting to convert people to my narrow ideology that I was never stung by a wasp.

Gotta love it! I am willing to bet that if you came to my door you would have been stung by nothing other than a beer and some interesting discussion.

475 albusteve  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:15:17am

re: #473 StillAMarine

But … but … Nancy is such great entertainment! Did anyone see her smilingly announce that the Democrats won a great victory when the governors of two important states went to the Republicans? Maybe it was because a Democrat won a contest with a third party opponent with what could arguably be described as having extreme views who joined the race late, and with the Republican candidate dropping out of the race and endorsing the Democrat.
Blinky does not impress me with her wit and wisdom. I have sloshed through mud puddles that are deeper than Nancy Pelosi.

the entire Triad, BO, Blinky, and Dirty Harry is a farce…and their lunatic team of Players are no better

476 J.S.  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:15:31am

re: #474 StillAMarine

(btw, the odor detecting wasps used like “scent hounds” are parasitic wasps — they don’t sting people…I don’t want to give these critters a bad rep they don’t deserve…just to clarify).

477 RogueOne  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:16:14am

re: #462 StillAMarine

That’s a good idea. I have two dobies who sound flat out vicious when people come to the door. They make it awful easy to get rid of sales people.

478 Sharmuta  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:19:46am

re: #464 SixDegrees

I think the point was a Congressman not knowing what’s in the Constitution.

Civics understanding is low among the population in general.

Of the 2,508 Americans taking ISI’s civic literacy test, 71% fail. Nationwide, the average score on the test is only 49%. The vast majority cannot recognize the language of Lincoln’s famous speech.

It’s worse with elected officials.

Among the 2,508 respondents, 164 say they have been elected to a government office at least once. This sub-sample of officeholders yields a startling result: elected officials score lower than the general public. Those who have held elective office earn an average score of 44% on the civic literacy test, which is five percentage points lower than the average score of 49% for those who have never been elected.

479 bosforus  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:21:06am

re: #474 StillAMarine

Gotta love it! I am willing to bet that if you came to my door you would have been stung by nothing other than a beer and some interesting discussion.

Heh. I attribute my success in not getting stung by any wasps to the fact that in Argentina nearly everybody has an iron fence in their front yard making it necessary to clap for a few seconds to get people to come out. Though it sounds like the wasps are working out pretty well for you.
Sidenote: Answering a door in nothing but red Speedo briefs to yell at us makes for a good story for the missionaries. It was a good story for me, at least.

480 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:21:28am

re: #473 StillAMarine

But … but … Nancy is such great entertainment! Did anyone see her smilingly announce that the Democrats won a great victory when the governors of two important states went to the Republicans? Maybe it was because a Democrat won a contest with a third party opponent with what could arguably be described as having extreme views who joined the race late, and with the Republican candidate dropping out of the race and endorsing the Democrat.
Blinky does not impress me with her wit and wisdom. I have sloshed through mud puddles that are deeper than Nancy Pelosi.

Quite Concur. Just I can’t stay, but I’ve got run. I just had to get in a dig at Nancy Pelosi. She’s such a nasty toad and she does not care what kind of damage she does as long as she stays in charge.

481 Ojoe  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:21:36am

Down with the sons-a-bitches who tanked the economy.

482 Political Atheist  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:22:00am

re: #478 Sharmuta

I’d bet they know who/when/where gives them money, (whoops campaign contributions) with precision, clarity and speed.

483 albusteve  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:25:30am

re: #481 Ojoe

Down with the sons-a-bitches who tanked the economy.

and those who refuse to do the right thing to get us back online again…it didn’t have to be this way…weakening the economy, then intruding into private business seems intentional to me

484 StillAMarine  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:25:30am

re: #475 albusteve

Geez. I got downdinged yesterday for saying something like that. Your observations are spot on.

485 Sharmuta  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:25:38am

re: #482 Rightwingconspirator

I got 99% on that test.

486 J.S.  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:25:48am

re: #481 Ojoe

You know, I don’t think anyone has a real handle on who, what, when, where of that story…(this is about the one time in which an independent investigatory committee — like a British style “inquiry” — might be a good thing..)

487 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:25:52am

re: #437 Walter L. Newton

Addendum to my comment : It may take some time, it may not even be done on a large scale basis, but I would bet if you looted closely at all the local races for this and that on Nov. 4th, 2009, you will also find an interesting in roads made by the GOP and the Independents toward a less government and moderate conservatism.

I know locally, in a blue state, there were a number of small surprises. Small, because in general there was no really big issues being considered, but surprises, because of the unexpected outcomes that spoke of more conservative level of voting.

Hey, Hoffman got more votes than any (R) has in that area for a long time. But I suck at reading tea leaves to be able to make any interpretation. But if you stick to economic policy and shrinking Gov’t, whether you are a fanatic / religious zealot and if you can keep it to yourself as much as is humanly possible,…you’ll get my vote.

488 albusteve  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:27:17am

re: #484 StillAMarine

Geez. I got downdinged yesterday for saying something like that. Your observations are spot on.

I’ve never clicked my football…I have no clue what people think of me, and don’t really care for the most part…but I don’t mind getting slapped by a few people still here…my elders and my betters

489 RogueOne  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:27:27am

re: #479 bosforus

Ha! another good idea. I had 2 old women from the later-day-saints club show up at my door 3 days in a row. On the 3rd trip they brought their old man preacher with them. I was polite the first day, not so much the second, and on the third I lost my patience. I had a german shepherd who was friendly as hell, completely non-aggressive, but he loved to play. I told them I was giving them 30 secs to make it back to their car then I was letting the dog out. I let them get all but 10’ from the vehicle and let him out. I have never seen 3 old people move that fast before trying to get in their car. It might sound mean, but it was funny, and they never came back.

490 laZardo  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:27:46am

re: #485 Sharmuta

I got 99% on that test.

SHARMUTA FOR CONGRESS ‘10

/because it’s never too early…

491 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:27:47am

Climate bill passes without GOP

The Senate Environment and Public Works Committee approved climate change legislation Thursday with no Republicans voting for the bill or even participating in the process.

With Republican boycotting the proceedings, Committee Chairman Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) relied on a little used interpretation of committee rules to move the legislation. Traditionally, two minority members are required to conduct committee business.

Boxer said that she passed the bill “in full accordance with long-standing committee and Senate rules.”

“This is not a procedure we wanted; it’s a procedure that’s available to us,” said Boxer. “The majority has to be able to do its work…otherwise the whole Senate could come to a screeching halt.”

Republicans called Boxer’s move the “nuclear option,” warning that it violated decades of committee precedent.

492 albusteve  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:29:09am

re: #478 Sharmuta

certainly explains a lot…bummer…we are becoming a population of Duh

493 Decatur Deb  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:29:39am

re: #487 Oh no…Sand People!

(snip) But if you stick to economic policy and shrinking Gov’t, whether you are a fanatic / religious zealot and if you can keep it to yourself as much as is humanly possible,…you’ll get my vote.

We can make more money a lot easier than we can make a new republic.

494 Political Atheist  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:29:57am

re: #489 RogueOne

My mother had her own solution. With lawn on both sides of the walkway to the door and strong sprinklers, the “automated” system always came on as unwelcome people strolled up in the driveway.

495 Ojoe  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:30:02am

re: #492 albusteve

we are becoming a population of Duh

Rotating title nomination.

BBL

496 simoom  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:31:03am

I just saw this over at wonkette.

Here’s a picture of the book, “Secular Sabotage - How Liberals are destroying religion and culture in America” by President of the Catholic League Bill Donohue:
Image: image_200909221306.jpg

On the right side of that image are a bunch of quotes praising the book. You’ll see the usual suspects like Laura Ingraham, Brent Bozell and Michael Medved - but one of these things is not like the others :P - check out that last quote:

Wake up America! The secular minority has cut the break cables on America’s In-God-We-Trust-Mobile™! Not even all 43 of our Christian Presidents can save us now!

Stephen Colbert, Author and Host of The Colbert Report

497 StillAMarine  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:31:24am

Break is over. Must get some reports out.

498 albusteve  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:31:28am


“This is not a procedure we wanted; it’s a procedure that’s available to us,” said Boxer. “The majority has to be able to do its work…otherwise the whole Senate could come to a screeching halt.”

probably a cynical joke in there

499 J.S.  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:31:54am

re: #494 Rightwingconspirator

(better hope not one of those walking up was a lawyer — in many jurisdictions that could be interpreted as “assault.”)

500 Killgore Trout  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:32:48am

re: #496 simoom

Ha!

501 Decatur Deb  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:32:56am

re: #496 simoom

I just saw this over at wonkette.

Here’s a picture of the book, “Secular Sabotage - How Liberals are destroying religion and culture in America” by President of the Catholic League Bill Donohue:
[Link: www.catholicleague.org…]

On the right side of that image are a bunch of quotes praising the book. You’ll see the usual suspects like Laura Ingraham, Brent Bozell and Michael Medved - but one of these things is not like the others :P - check out that last quote:

My money is on “impersonation” Stephen C. know how to spell “brake”.

502 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:33:03am

Another interesting insight about the NJ and VA race that we are NOT GETTING much coverage of is the fact that these are two very entrenched UNION STATES.

And the unions did not win out.

Also, check out Westchester County NY, interesting thing happened there. Limo liberals rebelled.

503 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:33:16am

re: #436 albusteve

I nominate LGF for the best music blog on the net

This is my current listen:

504 Decatur Deb  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:34:18am

re: #501 Decatur Deb

knows

PIMF

505 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:34:45am

re: #498 albusteve


“This is not a procedure we wanted; it’s a procedure that’s available to us,” said Boxer. “The majority has to be able to do its work…otherwise the whole Senate could come to a screeching halt.”

probably a cynical joke in there

Don’t we wish. Barbara Boxer is such a tease.

506 laZardo  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:35:12am

re: #496 simoom

Now that’s what I call the fine art of trolling! 8D

507 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:35:26am

re: #489 RogueOne

Ha! another good idea. I had 2 old women from the later-day-saints club show up at my door 3 days in a row. On the 3rd trip they brought their old man preacher with them. I was polite the first day, not so much the second, and on the third I lost my patience. I had a german shepherd who was friendly as hell, completely non-aggressive, but he loved to play. I told them I was giving them 30 secs to make it back to their car then I was letting the dog out. I let them get all but 10’ from the vehicle and let him out. I have never seen 3 old people move that fast before trying to get in their car. It might sound mean, but it was funny, and they never came back.

But the 64 dollar question…did you get ‘the book’?

Moohoowaahaaahahahah (diabolical laughter) (I highly recommend it.)

508 simoom  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:36:12am

re: #501 Decatur Deb

My money is on “impersonation” Stephen C. know how to spell “brake”.

Crap :P. I seem to manage at least one homophone mix-up every few posts.

509 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:36:16am

re: #502 Walter L. Newton

Another interesting insight about the NJ and VA race that we are NOT GETTING much coverage of is the fact that these are two very entrenched UNION STATES.

And the unions did not win out.

Also, check out Westchester County NY, interesting thing happened there. Limo liberals rebelled.

Addendum to my comment above :

Westchester county… Republican won

lohud.com

510 subsailor68  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:36:21am

Morning all. Well, it does look like Pelosi is going to push for a vote Saturday on the House version of the health “insurance” bill. Interesting observation from the CBO:

Health Care Reform Assumes Millions Would Pay Fine Rather Than Get Coverage

The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office estimated in its study last week that the House health care bill would bring in $167 billion over 10 years in penalties from those who don’t get coverage.

Interesting concept. For the plan to work, Congress needs people to “break the rules”. For if they don’t,

Ernest Istook, a former Republican congressman from Oklahoma who is now a fellow at the conservative Heritage Foundation, calculated that anywhere between 8 million and 14 million people would end up paying the fines.

This raises a few problems, he said. First, if those millions somehow get covered and don’t pay the fine, then the health program is faced with a budget hole.

There are no words to describe the cynicism, bad faith, and horrible judgment of our elected officials in Congress.

511 Political Atheist  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:36:58am

re: #503 Oh no…Sand People!

Let it rock indeed. Nice.

512 Decatur Deb  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:37:19am

re: #508 simoom

Crap :P. I seem to manage at least one homophone mix-up every few posts.

Homophonophobe.

513 Ojoe  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:37:54am

re: #510 subsailor68

I have a real problem with the government forcing me to buy something just because I exist.

514 FrogMarch  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:38:12am

re: #510 subsailor68


There are no words to describe the cynicism, bad faith, and horrible judgment of our elected officials in Congress.

Two words for congress: Power. Trip.

515 sattv4u2  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:39:01am

re: #509 Walter L. Newton

Addendum to my comment above :

Westchester county… Republican won

[Link: www.lohud.com…]

Doesn’t matter

All that DOES matter is that the Dem won in NY 23!
All other races are inconsequential ((unless you find somewhere else where a dem won))

Nope ,,, Westchester County matters not at all,,, nuh uh ,,, nope,,, Virginia ,,, New Jersey ,,, nada ,,,

///

516 albusteve  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:39:10am

re: #511 Rightwingconspirator

Let it rock indeed. Nice.

I have a rock and roll soul…or so my kids tell me

517 lawhawk  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:39:15am

re: #487 Oh no…Sand People!

Hoffman got more votes in that district than other GOPers have? Not in the slightest. In the last 3 way vote in the district (2000) Bohlert won 120k+ votes. The conservative running, Vickers, got 42k. McHugh never got below 100k in his election/reelections (2002, 2004, 2006, 2008).

518 subsailor68  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:40:04am

re: #515 sattv4u2

Doesn’t matter

All that DOES matter is that the Dem won in NY 23!
All other races are inconsequential ((unless you find somewhere else where a dem won))

Nope ,,, Westchester County matters not at all,,, nuh uh ,,, nope,,, Virginia ,,, New Jersey ,,, nada ,,,

///

David Axelrod is that you? If not, it’s the best impression I’ve ever seen!

;-)

519 FrogMarch  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:40:23am

re: #509 Walter L. Newton

Addendum to my comment above :

Westchester county… Republican won

[Link: www.lohud.com…]

“Voters rejected the Democratic incumbent’s bid for a fourth term, opting instead for a candidate who pledged to downsize government and cut the highest county taxes in the nation.”

Oh noes! Stalinists!

520 albusteve  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:41:01am

re: #514 FrogMarch

Two words for congress: Power. Trip.

hahaha!…man, I hate the feds I tell you…if hate were a country I’d be China

521 lawhawk  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:41:25am

re: #509 Walter L. Newton

Nassau County saw Democrat County Exec Tom Suozzi ahead by the unknown GOPer by all of 237 votes.

In Nassau County, Republicans apparently recaptured control of the County Legislature, and the Democratic county executive, Thomas R. Suozzi, was hanging on to a 237-vote lead over the Republican challenger, Edward P. Mangano with absentee and provisional ballots not yet tallied.

“The reality is, I’m luckier than a lot of incumbents,” Mr. Suozzi said at a news conference Wednesday afternoon on Long Island.

Turnout was noticeably low on Tuesday in Westchester and Nassau, as voters there seemed to both mirror the national trend of frustration with the economy and express their outrage over high local property taxes.

522 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:41:50am

re: #510 subsailor68

Morning all. Well, it does look like Pelosi is going to push for a vote Saturday on the House version of the health “insurance” bill. Interesting observation from the CBO:

Health Care Reform Assumes Millions Would Pay Fine Rather Than Get Coverage

The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office estimated in its study last week that the House health care bill would bring in $167 billion over 10 years in penalties from those who don’t get coverage.

Interesting concept. For the plan to work, Congress needs people to “break the rules”. For if they don’t,

Ernest Istook, a former Republican congressman from Oklahoma who is now a fellow at the conservative Heritage Foundation, calculated that anywhere between 8 million and 14 million people would end up paying the fines.

This raises a few problems, he said. First, if those millions somehow get covered and don’t pay the fine, then the health program is faced with a budget hole.

There are no words to describe the cynicism, bad faith, and horrible judgment of our elected officials in Congress.

Sick and disgusting. If this doesn’t wake people up to the mental contortions people have to make to justify this ‘Health Care’…nothing will.

523 Kragar  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:41:59am

Just finished the new Wheel of Time book that came out, first one since the original author of the series died. The new author did a good job on it.

524 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:43:19am

re: #519 FrogMarch

“Voters rejected the Democratic incumbent’s bid for a fourth term, opting instead for a candidate who pledged to downsize government and cut the highest county taxes in the nation.”

Oh noes! Stalinists!

And understand, this is an extremely liberal county. If I remember my figures correctly, the progressives have held this position for 20 years.

And one of the big reasons this conservative won. Because he was against some Obama initiative that would force places like Westchester county to put low income housing in the middle of million dollar homes.

This was a referendum on Obama.

525 laZardo  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:43:21am

re: #516 albusteve

I have a rock and roll soul…or so my kids tell me

New junk, old punk, it’s still rock ‘n roll to me.

526 bosforus  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:43:21am

re: #489 RogueOne

Must have been a slow week for them. I’m surprised they went back the second day. My first thought is that it could be possible that you have an LDS friend who recommended you to them (though amongst us it’s courteous and expected to inform said friend) so they thought you were worth going back for.

Here’s some insider info. on how missions work (as I am LDS and was once a missionary) or at least how it worked ten years ago. I’ll italicize the words that are common missionary vernacular. The mission is a large geographical (or small, if it is densely populated) area where the missionary is sent. The mission is divided into zones. The zones are divided into districts. The districts are divided into areas. Two missionaries (one couple) per area, normally. A missionary is normally in an area for around 2-5 months before they get transferred. Records of every conversation with every person in the area are not kept. If some missionaries come to your house and you say, “I told you two months ago to never come back” it is possible that they are different missionaries and have no idea who you are. Personally, I would not go back to a home where that occurred to me or if I knew they did not want us there (we’d rather not get chased by dogs or stung by wasps). Information is mostly passed on verbally between the two missionaries, when one gets transferred it’s up to the remaining to fill in the replacement on what’s going on in the area. This, inevitably, results in people being endlessly tormented by our relentless door knocking to which there is apparently no escape, like, say, not answering the door and continuing with your day. :)

527 Killgore Trout  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:43:23am

re: #522 Oh no…Sand People!


Sick and disgusting. If this doesn’t wake people up to the mental contortions people have to make to justify this ‘Health Care’…nothing will.

Fox News and the Heritage Foundation. I’m not worried about it.

528 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:44:30am

re: #517 lawhawk

Hoffman got more votes in that district than other GOPers have? Not in the slightest. In the last 3 way vote in the district (2000) Bohlert won 120k+ votes. The conservative running, Vickers, got 42k. McHugh never got below 100k in his election/reelections (2002, 2004, 2006, 2008).

Whoops! I meant (C) not (R).

529 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:44:39am

CBO: Republican health plan would reduce premiums, cut deficit

The Congressional Budget Office Wednesday night released its cost analysis of the Republican health care plan and found that it would reduce health care premiums and cut the deficit by $68 billion over ten years.

The Republican plan does not call for a government insurance plan but rather attempts to reform the system by creating high-risk insurance pools, allowing people to purchase health insurance policies across state lines and instituting medical malpractice reforms.

“Not only does the GOP plan lower health care costs, but it also increases access to quality care, including for those with pre-existing conditions, at a price our country can afford,” House Minority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, said.

According to CBO, the GOP bill would indeed lower costs, particularly for small businesses that have trouble finding affordable health care policies for their employees. The report found rates would drop by seven to 10 percent for this group, and by five to eight percent for the individual market, where it can also be difficult to find affordable policies.

The GOP plan would have the smallest economic impact on the large group market that serves people working for large businesses that have access to the cheapest coverage. Those premiums would decline by zero to 3 percent, the CBO said.

530 albusteve  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:44:39am

re: #519 FrogMarch

“Voters rejected the Democratic incumbent’s bid for a fourth term, opting instead for a candidate who pledged to downsize government and cut the highest county taxes in the nation.”

Oh noes! Stalinists!

I wonder if CA is listening?…they have to cough up like tens of billions already spent and it gets worse…

calpensions.com

here’s a bunch of mind boggling numbers

531 abbyadams  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:45:16am

re: #525 laZardo

Think you forgot “hot funk.”

532 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:45:28am

re: #527 Killgore Trout

Fox News and the Heritage Foundation. I’m not worried about it.

You’re right. Pelosi & Reid would never try something like that.

/

533 subsailor68  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:46:07am

re: #527 Killgore Trout

Fox News and the Heritage Foundation. I’m not worried about it.

Ah, but to be fair, the numbers come from the CBO. As the old saying goes, even a busted clock is right twice a day.

My concern is that a plan that relies on funding from non-compliance is a terribly cynical approach to governing.

534 Decatur Deb  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:46:15am

re: #526 bosforus

Ran into a couple kids in downtown Seoul. They didn’t know we had
US Army bases (and commissary) in Korea.

535 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:46:16am

re: #529 NJDhockeyfan

CBO: Republican health plan would reduce premiums, cut deficit

Nothing to see here…move along.
/

536 Killgore Trout  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:46:35am

The freak show is on…
Tea partiers hit Capitol

Thousands of Tea Party activists descended on Washington Thursday to protest the trillion dollar health care bill and government spending, holding signs protesting Barack Obama’s agenda while aiming chants of “you work for us” at the Capitol building.

Capitol Police reported that nine protesters were arrested in the Hart Senate office building on Thursday morning, but the protests were otherwise peaceful and spirited.

they awaited the arrival of their heroine — Bachmann.

“She’s very brave,” said Nancy Holmberg of Dorris.

“Palin/Bachmann 2012,” came a shout from the crowd. The crowd is also chanting Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s name and demanding that she come address them on the steps of the Capitol.

537 laZardo  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:47:31am

re: #529 NJDhockeyfan

CBO: Republican health plan would reduce premiums, cut deficit

re: #535 Oh no…Sand People!

“And leave even more people at the mercy (i.e. the lack thereof) of the greedy insurance companies!”

/ :B

538 bosforus  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:49:27am

re: #534 Decatur Deb

Ran into a couple kids in downtown Seoul. They didn’t know we had
US Army bases (and commissary) in Korea.

That’s pretty weird. But then again, I knew a missionary who didn’t know who the Harlem Globetrotters were. It kind of floored me until he told me the name of the small Utah town he was from. Then it all made sense.

539 albusteve  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:50:20am

re: #536 Killgore Trout

The freak show is on…
Tea partiers hit Capitol

the freak show is inside the Capitol…these are just pissed off voters…freak show?…I’m INSULTED and DEMAND AN APOLOGY!

540 Killgore Trout  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:50:42am

re: #533 subsailor68

My concern is that a plan that relies on funding from non-compliance is a terribly cynical approach to governing.


There are a couple ways to look at that. If the penalty is too low then people and employers will forgo insurance and we’ll all end up paying for their healtcare when they get sick or injured. If the penalty is too high then they all get forced into the government’s “public option plan”. It’ll be interesting to see what happens but Fox and the Heritage Foundation aren’t trust worthy sources of analysis. Remember the “Death Panels”?

541 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:51:05am

re: #438 laZardo

I was the Hindenburg guy.

Have you seen my new picture?

542 Mich-again  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:51:08am

re: #524 Walter L. Newton

And one of the big reasons this conservative won. Because he was against some Obama initiative that would force places like Westchester county to put low income housing in the middle of million dollar homes.

NIMFY. Not in my front yard.

543 Killgore Trout  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:51:20am

re: #539 albusteve

.I’m INSULTED and DEMAND AN APOLOGY!

Don’t hold your breath.

544 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:51:29am

Can someone please fact-check this today?

Speaker Pelosi’s Government-Run Health Plan Will Require a Monthly Abortion Premium

Health care reform should not be used as an opportunity to use federal funds to pay for elective abortions. Health reform should be an opportunity to protect human life - not end it.

Unfortunately, Speaker Pelosi’s 2,032-page government takeover of health care does just that. On line 17, p. 110, section 222 under “Abortions for which Public Funding is Allowed” the Health and Human Services Secretary is given the authority to determine when abortion is allowed under the government-run plan. The Speaker’s plan also requires that at least one insurance plan offered in the Exchange covers abortions.

What is even more alarming is that a monthly abortion premium will be charged of all enrollees in the government-run plan. It’s right there on line 16, page 96, section 213, under “Insurance Rating Rules.” The premium will be paid into a U.S. Treasury account - and these federal funds will be used to pay for the abortion services.

Section 213 describes the process in which the Health Benefits Commissioner is to assess the monthly premiums that will be used to pay for elective abortions under the government-run plan. The Commissioner must charge at a minimum $1 per enrollee per month.

545 laZardo  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:51:52am

re: #541 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Have you seen my new picture?

Oh.

546 lawhawk  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:51:58am

Here’s an interesting tidbit and why Hoffman’s out of district bid wasn’t a legal issue; the US Constitution only requires that a Rep be a resident of the state in which the district is located; he doesn’t have to be a resident.

It means anyone can carpetbag for a district elsewhere in the state of residency.

The problem with Hoffman running while not a local resident had more to do with the fact that he didn’t know the local issues or concerns, and voters probably didn’t care for that vs. a candidate who did know the issues in the form of Democrat Owens.

547 StillAMarine  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:52:10am

re: #526 bosforus

Please know that the obnoxious ones that my wasps chased away were not Latter Day Saints. They were a less respectful breed who targeted me because they knew I was Jewish.

548 laZardo  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:52:25am

re: #544 NJDhockeyfan

Can someone please fact-check this today?

Speaker Pelosi’s Government-Run Health Plan Will Require a Monthly Abortion Premium

Now it’s 2,000 pages?

/talk about tl;dr…

549 Mich-again  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:52:56am

re: #544 NJDhockeyfan

“Abortions for which Public Funding is Allowed” the Health and Human Services Secretary is given the authority to determine when abortion is allowed under the government-run plan.

Two words will define “when”. On demand.

550 albusteve  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:53:10am

re: #548 laZardo

Now it’s 2,000 pages?

/talk about tl;dr…

congress is still adding the pork…wait one

551 Decatur Deb  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:53:12am

re: #547 StillAMarine

Please know that the obnoxious ones that my wasps chased away were not Latter Day Saints. They were a less respectful breed who targeted me because they knew I was Jewish.

Mishna Krishnas?

552 Killgore Trout  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:53:58am

re: #544 NJDhockeyfan

Lol. Mandatory abortions!

553 albusteve  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:54:13am

re: #549 Mich-again

Two words will define “when”. On demand.

will abortions be cheaper than a rubber?

554 Mich-again  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:54:54am

re: #546 lawhawk

It means anyone can carpetbag for a district elsewhere in the state of residency.

And for Senators they just need a mailing address somewhere in the State right?

555 DaddyG  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:55:02am

Looks like someone took Bachman’s house call advice. Just not who you expected…

Protesters arrested at liebermans office

556 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:55:43am

re: #547 StillAMarine

Please know that the obnoxious ones that my wasps chased away were not Latter Day Saints. They were a less respectful breed who targeted me because they knew I was Jewish.

Chabadniks?

557 subsailor68  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:55:47am

re: #540 Killgore Trout

There are a couple ways to look at that. If the penalty is too low then people and employers will forgo insurance and we’ll all end up paying for their healtcare when they get sick or injured. If the penalty is too high then they all get forced into the government’s “public option plan”. It’ll be interesting to see what happens but Fox and the Heritage Foundation aren’t trust worthy sources of analysis. Remember the “Death Panels”?

Hi Killgore. Agree with your take on too high vs. too low - but it doesn’t change the concept of non-compliance as a formula for funding either way. (It simply addresses the level Congress needs to find to max out revenue.)

Yeah, the “death panel” was hyperbolic and not useful - but heck, that’s why I cited the “busted clock” thingy.

;-)

558 bosforus  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:56:04am

re: #547 StillAMarine

Please know that the obnoxious ones that my wasps chased away were not Latter Day Saints. They were a less respectful breed who targeted me because they knew I was Jewish.

I have a few guesses but I should probably keep my mouth shut.

559 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:56:10am

re: #544 NJDhockeyfan

Can someone please fact-check this today?

Speaker Pelosi’s Government-Run Health Plan Will Require a Monthly Abortion Premium

And, interestingly, a Democrat is leading the charge AGAINST this… Bartholomew Thomas “Bart” Stupak…

prospect.org

560 SixDegrees  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:57:23am

re: #536 Killgore Trout

The freak show is on…
Tea partiers hit Capitol

Any word yet on how many millions of protesters showed up?

561 lawhawk  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:57:24am

re: #540 Killgore Trout

Actually government counts on tax penalties and interest all the time in their funding and revenue sources; they count noncompliance penalties and interest in their revenues and again do so when figuring out what to expect during tax amnesties held periodically. When recessions hit, those penalties and interest provisions become especially important, which is why enforcement becomes that much tighter (and tax provisions are construed even more loosely so as to bring in additional revenues as a matter of policy - as in what would construe nexus for purposes of sales tax or corp income tax, residency requirements, etc.).

The problem with the health plan is that the scope of the penalties and the imposition of those penalties are so wide and the expectation of noncompliance figures so heavily on making the plan revenue netural (outflow v inflow) at the outset that if more people choose to comply, the revenues expected from the penalties will necessarily fall short. It also would cause problems because more people than expected will be accessing the services, causing shortages in doctors and medical care (more people accessing same number of docs/medical services = less time per patient = lower quality of care).

562 Decatur Deb  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:58:11am

re: #560 SixDegrees

Any word yet on how many millions of protesters showed up?

1.7 to 2 million.

563 lawhawk  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:58:35am

re: #554 Mich-again

Resident of the state when elected - US Constitution, Art. 1, Sec. 3 (for Reps, it’s Art. 1, Sec. 2).

564 laZardo  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:58:43am

Headin’ to bed. Busy day tomorrow. Cheers!

565 subsailor68  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:58:46am

re: #561 lawhawk

Thanks lawhawk! Those were my concerns precisely.

566 SteveC  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 8:59:51am

re: #554 Mich-again

And for Senators they just need a mailing address somewhere in the State right?

And yet when parents want to send their kids to a school not in the district, the local school board raises seventeen kinds of hell.

567 RogueOne  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:01:41am

re: #526 bosforus

I’m an atheist myself, but I happen to like church goers, probably because my dad is a retired preacher himself and I got to spend my youth with a variety of really good people. Still to this day, I let the missionaries know I appreciate the thought but they’re wasting time that could be better spent on someone else.


I like penns take on proselytizing. “how much do you have to hate someone to not proselytize?

568 sattv4u2  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:02:20am

re: #560 SixDegrees

Any word yet on how many millions of protesters showed up?

All jokes aside, any slightly substantial number would be significant in that the it was put together just days ago and happening on a Thursday afternoon

569 rwdflynavy  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:02:22am

I’ve served in the Navy for 19 years. I have 3 sons. None of them have ever been seen at a Military Medical Facility for care. I pay a premium for them to see a civilian doc. They could have free healthcare, but I pay a premium to be able to choose a civilian provider.

That’s how I feel about a governement option or a single payer system.

570 Killgore Trout  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:03:02am

re: #555 DaddyG

Looks like someone took Bachman’s house call advice. Just not who you expected…

Protesters arrested at liebermans office

Ha! Loons.

571 DaddyG  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:03:23am

re: #526 bosforus
Heh. The oldest is in the Philippines wondering why people make appointments with him and then don’t keep them. I was trying to explain some people aren’t comfortable saying no to his face, but he should just keep on doing service work, visiting those who are eager to hear from him and all will work out.

Even as large and established as the LDS Church is we still have all of the sometimes peculiar characteristics of any vounteer organization and the communication nightmares that go with it.

572 Mich-again  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:04:27am

re: #553 albusteve

will abortions be cheaper than a rubber?

I don’t like to push my own views on abortion on anyone else because no one really cares what anyone else thinks anyways. However, I do like to ask those who are pro-choice what they think of using abortion as a means for sex selection particularly in China or India where female babies are aborted at a far higher rate than males. That can lead to some fine examples of pretzel logic.

573 FrogMarch  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:05:04am

re: #530 albusteve

I wonder if CA is listening?…they have to cough up like tens of billions already spent and it gets worse…

[Link: calpensions.com…]

here’s a bunch of mind boggling numbers

No worries- the voters were just socked with another tax increase loan to the gov. We can tax and spend our way out of this. Sure, we will lose more jobs and more tax revenue, but the lefty way is the way to go. because there are crazies on the right- by default the left is now sane and wonderful.

574 studentpatriot  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:05:17am

Hey Charles,

Could we get the GOP version of a health care bill posted on LGF?

575 DaddyG  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:05:36am

re: #557 subsailor68
You missed Killgore’s point. Fox news and the heritage foundation are evil liars and thus you cannot trust anything they report. Who cares what goes out with the bathwater- we can always make new babies. //

576 SteveC  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:06:34am

re: #569 rwdflynavy

I’ve served in the Navy for 19 years. I have 3 sons. None of them have ever been seen at a Military Medical Facility for care. I pay a premium for them to see a civilian doc. They could have free healthcare, but I pay a premium to be able to choose a civilian provider.

That’s how I feel about a governement option or a single payer system.

Just as Trivia, if a military family member has any kind of Chronic Illness, the best thing to do is to stay away from military medicine. They may not be able to handle you, as so many of their patients are basically healthy.

577 StillAMarine  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:06:40am

Mishna KrishnasMishna Krishnasre: #558 bosforus

Yeah. This is a good time for both of us to not let this opportunity to keep our mouths shut go by.

578 DaddyG  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:06:46am

re: #570 Killgore Trout

Ha! Loons.

Teh Crazy is bipartisan!

579 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:07:57am

re: #574 studentpatriot

Hey Charles,

Could we get the GOP version of a health care bill posted on LGF?

How long does it take to google this…

gop.gov

Geeessshhh…

580 Sharmuta  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:07:58am

re: #578 DaddyG

Teh Crazy is bipartisan!

You know it.

581 subsailor68  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:08:39am

re: #575 DaddyG

You missed Killgore’s point. Fox news and the heritage foundation are evil liars and thus you cannot trust anything they report. Who cares what goes out with the bathwater- we can always make new babies. //

Hi DaddyG! LOL!!! Oops. My bad!

582 Killgore Trout  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:08:49am

A godsend for the lefties: Anti abortion protesters
Warning graphic

583 SteveC  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:09:05am

re: #573 FrogMarch

…the lefty way is the way to go.

*Clicks the quote button with his left hand*

Hey now! SMILE when you say that! :)

584 sattv4u2  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:09:32am

re: #574 studentpatriot

Hey Charles,

Could we get the GOP version of a health care bill posted on LGF?

Hey Student ,,, Need my 15 year old to help you GOOGLE !?!?!?!

585 Sharmuta  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:09:39am

Now that the isolationists on the right are flexing their muscle, how long until Medea Benjamin is a hero in the kookosphere?

586 albusteve  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:10:11am

re: #572 Mich-again

I don’t like to push my own views on abortion on anyone else because no one really cares what anyone else thinks anyways. However, I do like to ask those who are pro-choice what they think of using abortion as a means for sex selection particularly in China or India where female babies are aborted at a far higher rate than males. That can lead to some fine examples of pretzel logic.

that is a real scenario…I just think using my tax money to fund abortion is a rip off…I feel the same about property taxes after my kids are done with the school system…my taxes should go down…a select class of citizens paying for all this public shit is unfair, period

587 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:10:11am

Gay leaders blame TV ads, Obama for loss in Maine

SAN FRANCISCO — Stunned and angry, national gay rights leaders Wednesday blamed scare-mongering ads — and President Barack Obama’s lack of engagement — for a bitter election setback in Maine that could alter the dynamics for both sides in the gay-marriage debate.

Conservatives, in contrast, celebrated Maine voters’ rejection of a law that would have allowed gay couples to wed, depicting it as a warning shot that should deter politicians in other states from pushing for same-sex marriage.

“Every time the citizens have voted on marriage, they have always sided with natural marriage,” said Mathew Staver, founder of Liberty Counsel, a Florida-based Christian legal group. “Maine dramatically illustrates the will of the people, and politicians should wake up and listen.”

Gay activists were frustrated that Obama, who insists he staunchly supports their overall civil rights agenda, didn’t speak out forcefully in defense of Maine’s marriage law before Tuesday’s referendum. The law was repealed in a vote of 53 percent to 47 percent.

588 SteveC  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:10:49am

re: #584 sattv4u2

Hey Student ,,, Need my 15 year old to help you GOOGLE !?!?!?!

Did they give him a Google-Fu belt just to get rid of him?

589 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:10:50am
590 reine.de.tout  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:10:52am

re: #574 studentpatriot

Hey Charles,

Could we get the GOP version of a health care bill posted on LGF?

You have a link?
Post it.

591 RogueOne  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:11:01am

I can’t belioeve I’m the first to mention this, but Left4Dead2 release date is Nov17.
vgreleases.com

Trailer:
gametrailers.com

592 SixDegrees  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:11:05am

re: #568 sattv4u2

All jokes aside, any slightly substantial number would be significant in that the it was put together just days ago and happening on a Thursday afternoon

And I’m certain that there will be reports of significant numbers circulated.

Based on the last go ‘round, it’ll be safe to divide these by a factor of around a hundred or so to arrive at something close to the actual number.

593 albusteve  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:11:39am

re: #573 FrogMarch

No worries- the voters were just socked with another tax increase loan to the gov. We can tax and spend our way out of this. Sure, we will lose more jobs and more tax revenue, but the lefty way is the way to go. because there are crazies on the right- by default the left is now sane and wonderful.

yes, and the protesters are the lunatics?…hahaha!…good grief

594 subsailor68  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:11:54am

re: #582 Killgore Trout

A godsend for the lefties: Anti abortion protesters
Warning graphic

Now that’s just not necessary. Not your link, but that idiot guy with his blood spattered costume. It’s juvenile and tasteless. And they wonder why people don’t pay attention.

595 Killgore Trout  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:12:15am

re: #574 studentpatriot

Hey Charles,

Could we get the GOP version of a health care bill posted on LGF?

It’s probably not worth the effort…
GOP Health Bill Would Leave 52 Million Uninsured

…Congressional Budget Office’s analysis of the GOP’s legislative alternative, which, CBO found, would leave 52 million nonelderly Americans uninsured in 2019 — about 6 million more than are uninsured today.

The GOP bill, CBO Director Douglas Elmendorf said last night, would cut federal deficit spending by $68 billion over the next decade, while “reducing the number of nonelderly people without health insurance by about 3 million in 2019 and leaving about 52 million nonelderly residents uninsured. The share of legal nonelderly residents with insurance coverage in 2019—83 percent—would be roughly in line with the current share.”

I think it’s like the alternative Republican budget. They aren’t serious about it. It’s just kid of a formality.

596 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:12:52am

re: #587 NJDhockeyfan

Gay leaders blame TV ads, Obama for loss in Maine

I don’t know why these people are bring Obama into this. Dr. Cordell himself told us, right here on LGF, that the various races across the country was in no way a referendum on Obama and his administration.

They don’t know what they are talking about.

597 SixDegrees  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:13:32am

re: #572 Mich-again

I don’t like to push my own views on abortion on anyone else because no one really cares what anyone else thinks anyways. However, I do like to ask those who are pro-choice what they think of using abortion as a means for sex selection particularly in China or India where female babies are aborted at a far higher rate than males. That can lead to some fine examples of pretzel logic.

My attitude on that particular matter has two parts. The first is: it’s obviously elective, and therefore wouldn’t be covered by any plan, public or private. The second is: I really don’t care what other people do, especially when they do it with their own money.

598 bosforus  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:13:37am

re: #571 DaddyG

I have no idea what you’re talking about. Everyone always kept their appointments with me!
/there aren’t enough sarc tags in this world…
In Rio Gallegos if our morning appointment (if we even had one) was a no show we’d sometimes head over to the pastry shop that was owned by a member and try to get some free facturas out of her. We usually did. She was very nice.

599 SteveC  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:13:44am

re: #596 Walter L. Newton

I don’t know why these people are bring Obama into this. Dr. Cordell himself told us, right here on LGF, that the various races across the country was in no way a referendum on Obama and his administration.

They don’t know what they are talking about.

He’s not a doctor, he just plays one on LGF!

600 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:13:50am

re: #551 Decatur Deb

Mishna Krishnas?

Mishna Knishes.

Now I’m hungry.

601 albusteve  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:14:12am

re: #587 NJDhockeyfan

when will the gay community realize they are under the bus?

602 sattv4u2  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:14:43am

re: #596 Walter L. Newton

I don’t know why these people are bring Obama into this. Dr. Cordell himself told us, right here on LGF, that the various races across the country was in no way a referendum on Obama and his administration.

They don’t know what they are talking about.

What races across the country

There was NY 23 that I’m aware of! Were there others?

603 Killgore Trout  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:15:06am

re: #594 subsailor68

Now that’s just not necessary. Not your link, but that idiot guy with his blood spattered costume. It’s juvenile and tasteless. And they wonder why people don’t pay attention.

Unfortunately this whole thing is orchestrated by loony Bachman. Opposition to healtcare reform has been severely damaged by lunatics and liars.

604 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:15:53am

re: #602 sattv4u2

What races across the country

There was NY 23 that I’m aware of! Were there others?

I don’t think so… I think all those people that left work off and on all day Tuesday were talking long lunches.

605 DaddyG  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:18:26am

re: #603 Killgore Trout

Unfortunately this whole thing is orchestrated by loony Bachman. Opposition to healtcare reform has been severely damaged by lunatics and liars.

…and yet the Dems took congress and the white house in spite of code pink. I think you are misoversetimating the power of the fringe.

606 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:18:29am

re: #603 Killgore Trout

Unfortunately this whole thing is orchestrated by loony Bachman. Opposition to healtcare reform has been severely damaged by lunatics and liars.

Then you probably will want to add Democrat Bart Stupak’s as another lunatic and liar.

I thought the left didn’t have any lunatics?

607 albusteve  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:18:56am

re: #595 Killgore Trout

I think it’s like the alternative Republican budget. They aren’t serious about it. It’s just kid of a formality.

of course…congress only works three days a week…( they just said ‘fuck you’ to Pelosi’s robust new work schedule)…so why waste the time?

608 subsailor68  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:19:06am

re: #603 Killgore Trout

Unfortunately this whole thing is orchestrated by loony Bachman. Opposition to healtcare reform has been severely damaged by lunatics and liars.

We can certainly agree on that! There are enough legitimate concerns about various facets of the proposed legislation without the nonsense being spewed by the hysterical - and usually badly informed - fringe. On both sides.

609 reine.de.tout  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:19:26am

Where’s Killgore?
At cnn.com today, a profile of Neda.

610 SteveC  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:19:38am

re: #602 sattv4u2

What races across the country

There was NY 23 that I’m aware of! Were there others?

District 10 in California, NY 23, Governor of New Jersey and Governor of Virginia were the big ones. Mayor of Atlanta and Mayor of Houston were big locally.

Nancy’s claiming victory, but what did she win? Dems already have a sizable majority in the House, adding 2 seats isn’t going to alter the math.

611 albusteve  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:20:24am

re: #606 Walter L. Newton

Then you probably will want to add Democrat Bart Stupak’s as another lunatic and liar.

I thought the left didn’t have any lunatics?

KT is just a little biased

612 Decatur Deb  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:20:42am

re: #606 Walter L. Newton

Then you probably will want to add Democrat Bart Stupak’s as another lunatic and liar.

I thought the left didn’t have any lunatics?

We keep them as pets. The right seems to be putting them into management.

613 tradewind  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:20:42am

Wow, President Obama. I’d much rather know about your (missing) scores than have you violate your daughter’s privacy and reveal hers to the press for a PR moment…
If my Dad had told the world that I made a 73 on a test when I was that age, it would have really ticked me off and set back communication a long way.
Not earth-shaking, just illustrative.

614 sattv4u2  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:21:37am

Those BASTARD Repubs are on the capital steps reciting the Pledge of Allegiance and singing the National Anthem while they unveil their Health INSURANCE reform bill

/

615 Killgore Trout  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:21:41am

re: #609 reine.de.tout

Where’s Killgore?
At cnn.com today, a profile of Neda.

Ah, thanks for posting that. Much more inspiring than the lunatic protests.

616 SixDegrees  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:21:51am

re: #603 Killgore Trout

Unfortunately this whole thing is orchestrated by loony Bachman. Opposition to healtcare reform has been severely damaged by lunatics and liars.

Note the cynicism dripping from my own post, above, concerning attendance figures. The lies and distortions peddled by the Birchers in charge of the Tea Party protests in September have put me in a position where anything even slightly positive presented concerning today’s events is going to be met with skepticism from my quarter - and I don’t support the Dem’s health care plans even a little bit.

617 lawhawk  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:21:52am

re: #595 Killgore Trout

It would leave 52 million uninsured? That means that it would make 2 million more people uninsured if you use the Democrats numbers - which often cite 50 million uninsured.

The problem with throwing numbers around is that there’s no hard and fast number of who exactly is uninsured - and who are voluntarily uninsured at that. We don’t know how many are illegal aliens are included in the numbers to inflate the total.

However, if we assume that 85% of Americans are already covered under health care programs that currently exist, and the Democrats concede that they’re going to increase the percentage to 96% - not exactly universal coverage for $1 trillion plus - any number less than $1 trillion is going to result in less coverage than what the Democrats are offering.

The problem comes down to cost; and the GOP plan doesn’t cost as much. It will necessarily mean fewer people are counted as insured.

618 albusteve  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:22:07am

re: #613 tradewind

Wow, President Obama. I’d much rather know about your (missing) scores than have you violate your daughter’s privacy and reveal hers to the press for a PR moment…
If my Dad had told the world that I made a 73 on a test when I was that age, it would have really ticked me off and set back communication a long way.
Not earth-shaking, just illustrative.

remember…”it takes a village”

619 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:22:17am

re: #605 DaddyG

…and yet the Dems took congress and the white house in spite of code pink. I think you are misoversetimating the power of the fringe.

That was just the point I was making yesterday. The progressives are making as much as they can about the fringe right, because it sells, not because the fringe right has as much power as the left wants to “imagine.”

Yesterday LOSS in NY23 proved that point. The looney right was all over that race, and had no effect in the end.

Yet, the looney right didn’t really make much about the races in VA and NJ, and what happened, amazing wins.

And even GOP head Steele pointed this out yesterday, and questioned the looney right.

620 DaddyG  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:22:45am

re: #612 Decatur Deb

We keep them as pets. The right seems to be putting them into management.

Like Pelosi, Waters, Frank, Ried… Oh… wait… //

621 SteveC  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:22:46am

re: #612 Decatur Deb

We keep them as pets. The right seems to be putting them into management.

DAY-UM!

Have you considered a career in political communications?

622 jpkoch  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:22:47am

re: #546 lawhawk

I’m not sure why you would say he didn’t know the issues. He’s a resident of Northern New York; he owns a small accounting business, and is fully aware of the economic challenges of his customers -probably more so than a professional politicians.

I heard Hoffman on the radio twice; in both instances he was unpolished, far from being eloquent, and in a few cases he sounded unsure of himself. He was outspent not only by his Democratic challenger, but also by the GOP. Most voters didn’t even know who he was just 8 weeks ago. Most of his money for this election came via the Internet (just like Dean and Obama in earlier election cycles). Yet, despite all of these problems, Hoffman lost by only 3 percentage points in a district which Obama won by more than 12 points.

People may make fun of the guy, but his campaign showed obvious problems to the GOP in NY, as well as the RNC. Dede, who was nominated by the local GOP offices was even more liberal than Owens (who will probably vote against Pelosi more than with her). If the GOP nominee is more liberal than both the district and the Democrats, there’s a big problem. Dede was anything but moderate, and she would have been a disaster for the GOP in NY-23 in the long run. The majority of the Dems pick ups in the House in 2006-2008 were in right leaning districts. Liberal to moderate Republican lawmakers got their clocks cleaned by conservative Democrats. The national GOP’s desire to evolve Leftward pretty much got a wake-up call Tuesday.

For Owens to win in 2010, he will have to vote against his party on most of the major issues; if that doesn’t happen, he will have to pray that Dede will win the GOP nomination. If Hoffman decides to run in 2010, Owens will more than likely lose.

623 albusteve  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:23:08am

re: #612 Decatur Deb

We keep them as pets. The right seems to be putting them into management.

so you do not consider Pelosi a lunatic?…what’s a lunatic?

624 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:23:09am

re: #611 albusteve

KT is just a little biased

No? You fucking with me now, right?

626 SixDegrees  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:24:22am

re: #605 DaddyG

…and yet the Dems took congress and the white house in spite of code pink. I think you are misoversetimating the power of the fringe.

The Dems began winning elections once Howard Dean shoved Code Pink and the other fringe elements that had attached themselves to his party into the nearest closet, and refused to let them grab the spotlight at Democrat-sponsored events. It’s true that the Dems sprouted more than a few loons over the last eight years - but it’s also true that, as long as the loons were in the forefront, the party itself lost election after election.

The GOP needs to take that lesson to heart, or get used to the same relegation to the wilderness.

627 Decatur Deb  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:25:12am

re: #621 SteveC

DAY-UM!

Have you considered a career in political communications?

If I can’t play the piano, I’m staying away from whorehouses.

628 SteveC  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:25:41am

re: #625 NJDhockeyfan

More pork please.

No, thank you; I’m trying to cut back.

629 albusteve  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:25:47am

re: #624 Walter L. Newton

No? You fucking with me now, right?

I said a little…maybe it’s less than that…a frickle biased?…my dad used to call a very small thing a ‘frickle’…Hi Charlie!

630 lawhawk  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:25:58am

re: #622 jpkoch

I’ve already gone on the record here that Owens will probably lose to a GOPer in NY23 in November 2010 - and I also don’t expect Hoffman to run either. The machinations in NY23 by the state and local GOP caused the mess, and extrapolating the mess to the rest of the nation as some kind of sentiment swing is hardly justified.

Hoffman might be a businessman who understands the challenges of running his business, but he didn’t understand the district of NY23, which is heavily reliant on Fort Drum (it’s the largest employer).

631 DaddyG  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:26:59am

re: #619 Walter L. Newton

That was just the point I was making yesterday. The progressives are making as much as they can about the fringe right, because it sells, not because the fringe right has as much power as the left wants to “imagine.”

Yesterday LOSS in NY23 proved that point. The looney right was all over that race, and had no effect in the end.

Yet, the looney right didn’t really make much about the races in VA and NJ, and what happened, amazing wins.

And even GOP head Steele pointed this out yesterday, and questioned the looney right.


I pray that this gives Steele some ammunition to steer the GOP back to the center right. Neither a Rino or Wingnut were in a position to carry that race. This could be a valuable lesson going into 2010.

632 rwdflynavy  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:27:53am

re: #612 Decatur Deb

We keep them as pets. The right seems to be putting them into management.

You obviously forgot your sarc tags! Funny stuff!!

633 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:28:08am

re: #558 bosforus

I have a few guesses but I should probably keep my mouth shut.

Oh hey, Bos, check out my book blog where I keep my concept art.

www.thepureblog.blogspot.com

You might be able to get some idea of the concept behind it. But I think I am onto something worth wasting hobby time on. *just mute your speakers..my music sucks.*

634 albusteve  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:28:27am

re: #625 NJDhockeyfan

More pork please.

That 1,990-page Democratic health care bill? It’s longer now; includes new government controls

the socialists among us must be very pleased…but time is working against Pelosi and she knows it…more and more moderates are more concerned about their necks than her empty wrath

635 Decatur Deb  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:28:31am

re: #623 albusteve

so you do not consider Pelosi a lunatic?…what’s a lunatic?

She could be very wrong, she could even be evil. She doesn’t come on
as delusional.

636 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:28:49am

re: #626 SixDegrees

The Dems began winning elections once Howard Dean shoved Code Pink and the other fringe elements that had attached themselves to his party into the nearest closet, and refused to let them grab the spotlight at Democrat-sponsored events. It’s true that the Dems sprouted more than a few loons over the last eight years - but it’s also true that, as long as the loons were in the forefront, the party itself lost election after election.

The GOP needs to take that lesson to heart, or get used to the same relegation to the wilderness.

Let me see if I can clarify this for myself, and you help me out. The left is/was better at keeping their loons packed away in the closet right… right?

I’ve been told over and over by the left that they don’t have any loons.

637 subsailor68  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:29:19am

re: #625 NJDhockeyfan

Hmmm…from your link:

What’s more important is what is in the new amendment. Much of it reflects Democrats’ concerns that their bill would cause an increase in health insurance premiums. Remember when the House leadership, the White House, and sympathetic media commentators everywhere attacked the insurance industry for predicting that the Democratic bill would cause premiums to go up? The manager’s amendment is, in effect, the House Democrats’ admission that it would do just that. Their answer: more government control. The new language sets up a process for the government to monitor “unjustified premium increases” and threaten insurance companies with exclusion from the government-run Health Insurance Exchange if they exhibit a “pattern of excessive or unjustified premium increases.” The government, of course, will determine what is “excessive” or “unjustified.”

It’s rapidly becoming a game of whack-a-mole. As unintended consequences begin to arise, legislators respond to each individual issue by modifying the bill - thus creating new and improved unintended consequences. And the mole reappears - only to be whacked again.

638 albusteve  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:30:38am

re: #635 Decatur Deb

She could be very wrong, she could even be evil. She doesn’t come on
as delusional.

I knew you’d say that…so what’s 2+2?…are all the tea partiers and capitol stormers delusional…what’s delusional?

639 Decatur Deb  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:31:08am

re: #636 Walter L. Newton

Let me see if I can clarify this for myself, and you help me out. The left is/was better at keeping their loons packed away in the closet right… right?

I’ve been told over and over by the left that they don’t have any loons.

That might have been one of the loons.

640 DaddyG  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:32:09am

re: #633 Oh no…Sand People!

Oh hey, Bos, check out my book blog where I keep my concept art.

www.thepureblog.blogspot.com

You might be able to get some idea of the concept behind it. But I think I am onto something worth wasting hobby time on. *just mute your speakers..my music sucks.*


I thought those were quite cool. Don’t worry about wasting hobby time. I wrote an entire book on LDS fatherhood which never got picked up by any LDS publishers “Nice work… no name recognition… yadda yadda…) but it was a worthwhile effort to get my own thoughts together and now I have something to share with my sons.

641 sattv4u2  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:33:17am

re: #636 Walter L. Newton

Let me see if I can clarify this for myself, and you help me out. The left is/was better at keeping their loons packed away in the closet right… right?

I’ve been told over and over by the left that they don’t have any loons.

But they have LOTS of closets!

Maybe the left that you’ve talked to haven’t looked in all of them yet

642 albusteve  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:33:18am

re: #636 Walter L. Newton

Let me see if I can clarify this for myself, and you help me out. The left is/was better at keeping their loons packed away in the closet right… right?

I’ve been told over and over by the left that they don’t have any loons.

descriptive words have a short half-life…post to post or whatever

643 Guanxi88  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:34:05am

Poor President Obama.

He tries, and he tries, and he tries, but he just can’t overcome the crippling legacy of President Bush. One year later, he’s still talking about it:

in.reuters.com

“One year ago, Americans all across this country went to the polls and cast ballots for the future they wanted to see,” Obama said.

But he said his administration was also confronted with a “financial crisis that threatened to plunge our economy into a Great Depression, the worst that we’ve seen in generations.”

“We had record deficits, two wars, frayed alliances around the world,” Obama added.

He said his administration had acted swiftly to save the economy from “imminent collapse.”

“While we still have a long way to go, we have made meaningful progress toward achieving that goal,” he said.

Nine months into his term, Obama’s Republican critics have accused him of overplaying the “blame card” against Bush, a Republican who left office with one of the lowest poll ratings of any modern president.

644 Decatur Deb  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:34:14am

re: #638 albusteve

I knew you’d say that…so what’s 2+2?…are all the tea partiers and capitol stormers delusional…what’s delusional?

I think they are being deluded, and many of them are comfortable with it.

645 SteveC  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:34:55am

re: #627 Decatur Deb

If I can’t play the piano, I’m staying away from whorehouses.

My granduncle was out of work (Like everyone else in the Depression) and was to the point that he knocked on the front door of a “House of Ill Repute” to see if they had any paying jobs that didn’t involve him taking his clothes off. The madam felt sorry for him and offered him a job as the bookkeeper.

“I’m sorry, Ma’m. I can’t read.” The woman still felt sorry for him and gave him a couple of apple to help tide him over.

He was sitting on the corner crying, with the apples in his hat, when someone bent down and picked up an apple. Before granduncle could protest the other fellow threw some change into the hat. A few minutes later the same thing happened.

Granduncle ran off and bought more apples. Time passed, and soon he was using a handcart, then a push cart, then worked up to a little spot at the farmers market, and last month he sold his chain of 106 grocery stores for 45 million dollars. And as always, he signed his name with an X.

“What’s this? You can’t write?” the lawyer said.

“Can’t read either,” Granduncle admitted.

“My word… if you could read and write, what could you have done with your life?”

“I’d probably be a bookkeeper for a whorehouse in Franklin, Tennessee.”

646 akarra  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:36:17am

re: #609 reine.de.tout

Where’s Killgore?
At cnn.com today, a profile of Neda.

Thank you - that’s quite a moving read.

647 DaddyG  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:36:19am

re: #643 Guanxi88 If Obama doesn’t want the job perhaps he should call Hillary or McCain to come do it? If not he needs to man up and be President.

648 webevintage  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:36:48am
All jokes aside, any slightly substantial number would be significant in that the it was put together just days ago and happening on a Thursday afternoon

It is amazing how easy it is to get a bunch of retired baby boomers to show up to protect their gov’t health care plan by refusing to allow other folks the same when Americans for Prosperity have whipped them into a froth and then provide them with free buses to get to DC.
Their motto should be:
“I got mine, screw you”
and
“I want my country baaaccckkk (from who I do not know)”

and I’m not saying there has to be an option of a public option BUT I AM SICK to death of folks who just want to yell about freedom and socialism (while also sucking off of the gov’t teat) without recognizing there is a problem and offering alternatives.
Americans are dying earlier because they lack health insurance which limits their access to health care.
(even if DeMint says they can get healtcare at the emergency room, if you wait that long you are pretty damn sick and when was the last time an emergency room provided treatment for cancer?)
Americans are declaring bankruptcy because of health care costs and all Rep. Steve King can blather about is that the people in his district want “freedom”. WHT? freedom to die earlier then they need too?

Sorry about the lib rant, just annoyed this morning.

649 Guanxi88  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:37:15am

re: #647 DaddyG

If Obama doesn’t want the job perhaps he should call Hillary or McCain to come do it? If not he needs to man up and be President.

I still suspect that he really did not anticipate that he’d score the White House first time outta the box. It would explain a lot about the apparent anarchy that marked his early days.

650 albusteve  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:37:30am

re: #644 Decatur Deb

I think they are being deluded, and many of them are comfortable with it.

so far there are far less than the millions of BO supporters, there is some epic delusion…almost inconsequential in the bigger picture so far, but I get your point

651 albusteve  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:40:24am

re: #649 Guanxi88

I still suspect that he really did not anticipate that he’d score the White House first time outta the box. It would explain a lot about the apparent anarchy that marked his early days.

every issue is a tangled gawdoffal mess that Bush dumped on him…his heroic efforts to clean up the mess are just not working yet…give him another seven years

652 webevintage  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:40:25am

re: #636 Walter L. Newton

Let me see if I can clarify this for myself, and you help me out. The left is/was better at keeping their loons packed away in the closet right… right?

I’ve been told over and over by the left that they don’t have any loons.

Then you was lied too.
How could we not have loons? Human nature being what it is and all…

653 Guanxi88  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:40:35am

re: #645 SteveC

That is an amazing American success story.

654 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:40:51am

re: #640 DaddyG

Yeah, this will most likely amount to nice geneology about ‘batshizzle insane’ uncle ‘Oh no…Sand People!’…

Go along with my grandpa’s story of when he punched out Harold B. Lee at their prom…

655 SixDegrees  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:40:53am

re: #636 Walter L. Newton

Let me see if I can clarify this for myself, and you help me out. The left is/was better at keeping their loons packed away in the closet right… right?

I’ve been told over and over by the left that they don’t have any loons.

Oh, I’d certainly count the Code Pinkers, International ANSWERs and all those giant puppeteers among the Left’s lunatic fringe, with special status granted to Cindy Sheehan as Queen of the Doofuses. Not to mention John Conyers and his mock “war crimes” trials held in the basement of the Congressional Office Building, Cynthia “Boom Boom” McKinney and Bill “Cold Cash” Jefferson, just to name a few who traded their bizarre Leftist tirades for votes. I don’t know where anyone could get off saying the Left hasn’t had these problems.

To me, the current tsunami of bullshit washing over the right is nothing more than a repeat of what’s gone before, on the other side of the aisle. The GOP just hasn’t gotten it out of it’s system and under control yet. And it’s looking as though it’ll take at least as long for the GOP to lock it’s retarded cousins in the back room as it did for the Dems, maybe longer.

But I don’t see it as at all unique.

656 tradewind  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:43:53am

re: #630 lawhawk
Dems are trembling in districts that aren’t run by the moonbat leftist segment of the party… they’re torn between taking a lashing from the leadership or risking a pink slip from the people.

657 sattv4u2  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:45:22am

re: #648 webevintage

Oh boo hoo hoo!

“I want my country baaaccckkk (from who I do not know)”

It was that liberal icon Michael Moore that penned the book Dude, Where’s My Country!


a bunch of retired baby boomers to show up to protect their gov’t health care plan


But your Dem legislators are promising that CUTTING funding will STRENGHTEN Medicare!

658 albusteve  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:45:53am

re: #655 SixDegrees

Oh, I’d certainly count the Code Pinkers, International ANSWERs and all those giant puppeteers among the Left’s lunatic fringe, with special status granted to Cindy Sheehan as Queen of the Doofuses. Not to mention John Conyers and his mock “war crimes” trials held in the basement of the Congressional Office Building, Cynthia “Boom Boom” McKinney and Bill “Cold Cash” Jefferson, just to name a few who traded their bizarre Leftist tirades for votes. I don’t know where anyone could get off saying the Left hasn’t had these problems.

To me, the current tsunami of bullshit washing over the right is nothing more than a repeat of what’s gone before, on the other side of the aisle. The GOP just hasn’t gotten it out of it’s system and under control yet. And it’s looking as though it’ll take at least as long for the GOP to lock it’s retarded cousins in the back room as it did for the Dems, maybe longer.

But I don’t see it as at all unique.

the internet gives it a new flavor…anticipation, over reaction, hysteria…but it’s an old story

659 tradewind  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:46:34am

re: #636 Walter L. Newton

Well here’s the thing… the Democratic party has for the past few decades been made up of such a gaggle of different radical interest groups that one more never even causes a blip on their radar. They just see them as part of the landscape, while the Republican far-outs just… stand out.

660 tradewind  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:47:32am

re: #657 sattv4u2

You know the concept… burn the village to save it.
///

661 albusteve  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:47:41am

re: #659 tradewind

Well here’s the thing… the Democratic party has for the past few decades been made up of such a gaggle of different radical interest groups that one more never even causes a blip on their radar. They just see them as part of the landscape, while the Republican far-outs just… stand out.

FAROUTSKI POWER!

662 Decatur Deb  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:48:50am

re: #650 albusteve

You and I will have good arguments.
(I lost control of the thread screen for a while, could see “spy”. I’m
very far behind now.)

663 webevintage  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:49:39am

re: #637 subsailor68

Hmmm…from your link:

What’s more important is what is in the new amendment. Much of it reflects Democrats’ concerns that their bill would cause an increase in health insurance premiums. Remember when the House leadership, the White House, and sympathetic media commentators everywhere attacked the insurance industry for predicting that the Democratic bill would cause premiums to go up? The manager’s amendment is, in effect, the House Democrats’ admission that it would do just that. Their answer: more government control. The new language sets up a process for the government to monitor “unjustified premium increases” and threaten insurance companies with exclusion from the government-run Health Insurance Exchange if they exhibit a “pattern of excessive or unjustified premium increases.” The government, of course, will determine what is “excessive” or “unjustified.”

It’s rapidly becoming a game of whack-a-mole. As unintended consequences begin to arise, legislators respond to each individual issue by modifying the bill - thus creating new and improved unintended consequences. And the mole reappears - only to be whacked again.

I’m assuming excessive and unjustified would be when a company raises their premiums 40% (like ours are going up next year). Since these will be (I assume) negotiated premiums then companies would have to keep to a price schedule already set up.

I don’t see what is wrong with that?
They already do this in the health insurance exchange for federal employees. The gov’t negotiates with the insurance companies within it for the premiums and coverage. There are dif plans and prices along with a drug plan. The insurance companies are not allowed to hold pre-existing conditions against the consumer/employee.
I don’t understand why this exchange can’t just be opened up to small businesses and people who are uninsured or under insured with subsidies for those who are under a certain income but make to much for medicade?

664 SteveC  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:49:59am

re: #648 webevintage

Americans are dying earlier because they lack health insurance which limits their access to health care.

Oh, you heard that on the evening news, too? It ain’t true. We do *not* have the 36th best health care system in the world. What the researchers did was average the age at time of death - in other words, they looked through a pile of Death Certificates. When you go back and cull out the Homicide victims and the victims of fatal accidents (after all, healthcare has nothing to offer them - they’re already dead!) and just look at death by natural causes, we’re number 1 in the world.

Oh, and the premature babies? A good Neonatal clinic will fight tooth and nail for that kid, starting with good prenatal care for mom. In other countries a preemie would be lucky to make it to term. We lose more Premature babies than are born in some countries.


(even if DeMint says they can get healtcare at the emergency room

It wasn’t DeMint that said that, it was the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA), passed in 1986, that said that. Google can be your friend.

665 sattv4u2  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:52:51am

re: #664 SteveC

Oh ,, you and your pesky facts!

666 bosforus  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:54:35am

re: #633 Oh no…Sand People!

That’s some pretty cool stuff. Are you of island descent?

667 bosforus  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 9:57:37am

re: #654 Oh no…Sand People!

Go along with my grandpa’s story of when he punched out Harold B. Lee at their prom…


LOL, it was just a misplaced future sustaining fist, not a punch.

668 rwdflynavy  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 10:00:25am

re: #652 webevintage

Then you was lied too.
How could we not have loons? Human nature Liberalismbeing what it is and all…

Fixed it for ya!
//

669 subsailor68  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 10:08:44am

re: #663 webevintage

I do understand your frustration, but government does not have good track record at holding down costs - just prices. As you point out, they presume to negotiate “fair” prices, but do not address the costs. (That’s actually the entire point of this legislation.)

Your example is one side of the coin. On the other, however, is the town in which I live. As Medicare has become increasingly intrusive, and as reimbursements have been lowered, doctors here have stopped taking new Medicare patients. As a result - in an area of high retirement - we have quite a few older folks with no physician.

It’s because government, via Medicare, chose to focus on the “price” they were prepared to pay, not on the “costs” associated with providing the service. They could mandate “price”, but couldn’t force physicians to accept it.

670 webevintage  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 10:09:02am

re: #664 SteveC

It wasn’t DeMint that said that, it was the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA), passed in 1986, that said that. Google can be your friend.

I know that and that was not my point.
The point was that while you can get your immediate needs taken care of at the emergency room they do not provide long term care or treatment.
And that many people who use the emergency end up there because they did not have the money to go to the Dr. when their health care problem before it became an emergency.
Not everyone who is sick goes to the Dr. or will even walk into an emergency room because of cost until they are so sick there is no other option.

People in this country die every year earlier then they would have and from illnesses that might have been prevented if they had had health insurance.:
factcheck.org
That link has the link to the Harvard study and other studies…

I’m not sure where you got the idea I was talking about preemies or our rankings?

671 webevintage  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 10:14:23am

re: #669 subsailor68

I do understand your frustration, but government does not have good track record at holding down costs - just prices. As you point out, they presume to negotiate “fair” prices, but do not address the costs. (That’s actually the entire point of this legislation.)

Your example is one side of the coin.

Thanks for understanding my frustration and I do understand the medicare payment issue and I think that the house bill has way too much extra stuff in it.

I just feel like there has got to be away without yelling about “freedom” and claiming that health care reform is more dangerous the terrorists (Rep. Virgina Fox) to help the Americans out there who are being hurt by a lack of health care insurance.

672 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 10:16:52am

re: #666 bosforus

That’s some pretty cool stuff. Are you of island descent?

English, Dutch, Irish, Welsh, Native American…

Forefathers came to Idaho with a group o’ pioneers.

673 subsailor68  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 10:26:57am

re: #671 webevintage

Thanks for understanding my frustration and I do understand the medicare payment issue and I think that the house bill has way too much extra stuff in it.

I just feel like there has got to be away without yelling about “freedom” and claiming that health care reform is more dangerous the terrorists (Rep. Virgina Fox) to help the Americans out there who are being hurt by a lack of health care insurance.

Yep, I’m with you. It’s an admirable goal to ensure we do everything we can to make sure folks have access to good health care. A couple of things I’d like to see addressed in this area:

A focus on minimizing the plague of medical malpractice suits that are brought because malpractice attorneys have found a cash cow if they can find the right jury. This leads to sky-high malpractice insurance rates (especially OB-GYN) and expensive defensive medicine. And ultimately, fewer people going into medicine, or those already in practice retiring early or just giving up.

A focus on bringing down the cost of private insurance - working with the industry on things like cross-state purchase, portability, - and even some way to deal with pre-existing conditions without ending up with a system where people don’t purchase insurance until they have the condition.

A focus on community clinics. In our town we have two - one run by a Catholic nun who’s definitely going to Heaven!! These places replace the ER, and actually provide ongoing care for those who need it - in an environment that helps folks retain their dignity.

A slow, but steady, move away from programs like Medicare. The program is bankrupt - it just hasn’t rolled over and died yet. Medicare doesn’t contribute to the solution - it merely exacerbates the problem.

And many other areas we could investigate.

674 FrogMarch  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 10:32:59am
675 webevintage  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 10:37:10am

re: #674 FrogMarch

CBO: Republican health plan would reduce premiums, cut deficit

It must be a lie.


But would still leave tons of folks without insurance…

676 avanti  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 10:37:37am

re: #613 tradewind

Wow, President Obama. I’d much rather know about your (missing) scores than have you violate your daughter’s privacy and reveal hers to the press for a PR moment…
If my Dad had told the world that I made a 73 on a test when I was that age, it would have really ticked me off and set back communication a long way.
Not earth-shaking, just illustrative.

I thought is was a excellent teaching moment. The daughter was disappointed with her score, discussed with dad what she could do better and came back with a 95. I did not see a problem with the speech.

677 FrogMarch  Thu, Nov 5, 2009 10:52:34am

re: #675 webevintage

But would still leave tons of folks without insurance…

If we lower costs and increase availability - eventually all who want to be insured, will be. Not 100%. Nothing is ever 100%, not even the democrats horrible costly plan.

The democrats will not cover everyone AND their plan will destroy the private health insurance industry. (Their unstated and stated goal.) Also, it will cost too much to be sustainable. There is no panacea here.


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California Urged to Rethink 40 Years of ‘Piecemeal’ Freshwater Protections Ultimately the drought had relatively minor impacts on most urban Californians who suddenly had to do things like let their lawns go brown or – gasp – ask for water while dining out. But under the surface, 18 fish ...
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EVGENY POBOZHIY QUINTET - Stranger Thoughts Evgeny Pobozhiy Quintet - Stranger Thoughts Evgeny Pobozhiy - guitar, compositionAnton Chekurov - saxNikolai Sidorenko - keysSergey Korchagin - bassAlexander Kulkov - drumsRecorded live @ Blues-minus studio, MoscowViktor Farafontov - sound engineerAndrey Galyamin - videoSergey Gasparyan - mixing2019 ...
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#Thegreatpoolpondconversion - 191201 It was an ‘easy’ unchallenging weekend. While low key, we got a lot done. We worked on the upper wall, setting and pounding in the 72 bags we dropped in last week. There are now two courses done completely ...
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Marvel Studios’ Black Widow - Official Teaser Trailer Marvel Studios' Black Widow is in theaters May 1, 2020. ► Subscribe to Marvel: bit.ly► See the poster: marvel.com► Learn more: marvel.com Follow Marvel on Twitter: ‪@marvelLike Marvel on Facebook: ‪facebook.com For even more news, stay tuned to:Tumblr: ‪marvelentertainment.tumblr.comInstagram: ...
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