12 new cosmic visitors tonight...

May the Lord of All the Stars be with the families of those in Fort Hood tonight.

The beauty, the sheer humbling astonishing beauty.

Obligatory...

I dig all these Hubble pics.

Perfect way to follow up Charles. Nothing like true perspective to set our heads straight after the shooting threads. Thx.

And here on earth, this view from Ojoe's towercam.

I've been waiting hours for the moon to show up, and it finally has.

re: #1 Sharmuta

Lovely.

Red edges are "suns born in vast numbers". (jaw hangs open)

I see a steller umbilical cord...what does that mean?

re: #9 albusteve

Say hello to the star some alien archaeologist will be from who finds our fossils in a few billion years.

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

The Federal Bureau of Investigation had earlier become aware of Internet postings by a man who called himself Nidal Hasan, a law enforcement official said. The postings discussed suicide bombing in a favorable light, but the investigators were not clear whether the writer was Major Hasan.

In one posting on the Web site Scribd, a man named Nidal Hasan compared the heroism of a soldier who throws himself on a grenade to protect fellow soldiers to suicide bombers who sacrifice themselves to protect Muslims.

“If one suicide bomber can kill 100 enemy soldiers because they were caught off guard that would be considered a strategic victory,” the man wrote. It could not be confirmed, however, that the writer was Major Hasan.

re: #10 Rightwingconspirator

Say hello to the star some alien archaeologist will be from who finds our fossils in a few billion years...

And says, "What the hell is this?"

re: #12 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Mutters dinosaurs, bipeds, birds, fish, viruses and NO INTELLIGENCE ever found.

JK!

re: #6 reine.de.tout

Nice. I love the moon shots.

IT'S A PLACENTA FROM OUTER SPACE!!!

RUUUNNN!

It looks like a sparkly body part.

re: #12 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

And says, "What the hell is this?"

"Whatever it is, it's in the way of our hyperspace bypass."

OK, I get the 11 dimensions, heavy gravity, black holes and dark matter. I get all that no problem. But tiny vibrating strings are what make up everything? Really? I have hard time wrapping my head around that.

Phil Plait, who has interesting commentary on how this image was generated...

Saves me from being the killjoy again. Beautiful image, what an amazing civilization we are.

'Night.

re: #18 Racer X

OK, I get the 11 dimensions, heavy gravity, black holes and dark matter. I get all that no problem. But tiny vibrating strings are what make up everything? Really? I have hard time wrapping my head around that.

That is sooo 2007.

this grand expanse of our future and our past reminds me that I am soon to be a grandfather to a baby boy that will carry my namesake...Elliot Bishop...life goes on beyond us...I'm making him a little Stratocaster guitar...three fifths sized out of solid hardwood, dials and pickups and all, for a keepsake...got to pass on my rock and roll heritage

Comment about Globular Clusters in 5, 4, 3, 2...

re: #20 cliffster

That is sooo 2007.

Still, its worth asking where the Globular Clusters are in this photo.

re: #18 Racer X

OK, I get the 11 dimensions, heavy gravity, black holes and dark matter. I get all that no problem. But tiny vibrating strings are what make up everything? Really? I have hard time wrapping my head around that.

"It's turtles all the way down!"

re: #22 ArchangelMichael

Comment about Globular Clusters in 5, 4, 3, 2...

re: #23 Dark_Falcon

Still, its worth asking where the Globular Clusters are in this photo.

re: #21 albusteve

this grand expanse of our future and our past reminds me that I am soon to be a grandfather to a baby boy that will carry my namesake...Elliot Bishop...life goes on beyond us...I'm making him a little Stratocaster guitar...three fifths sized out of solid hardwood, dials and pickups and all, for a keepsake...got to pass on my rock and roll heritage

That's beautiful.

re: #25 Dark_Falcon

Couldnt have planned that even if we tried.

re: #22 ArchangelMichael

re: #23 Dark_Falcon

Before my time, but I did find and read that thread one day.
I couldn't stop laughing.

John Stewart is doing an incredible Beck impression right now. He's got it down pat.

re: #21 albusteve

Wonderful, STRONG name it is.

re: #21 albusteve

this grand expanse of our future and our past reminds me that I am soon to be a grandfather to a baby boy that will carry my namesake...Elliot Bishop...life goes on beyond us...I'm making him a little Stratocaster guitar...three fifths sized out of solid hardwood, dials and pickups and all, for a keepsake...got to pass on my rock and roll heritage

Sweet.

re: #6 reine.de.tout

Looking good!
The best photo I've ever taken to date, IMO (somewhere in central California, 2006 wildfires). It almost ended up in a newspaper.

re: #30 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Wonderful, STRONG name it is.

albusteve is just a fake name, I confess here...I do live in ABQ tho

Just to piss Steve off...

re: #32 bosforus

Looking good!
The best photo I've ever taken to date, IMO (somewhere in central California, 2006 wildfires). It almost ended up in a newspaper.

Holy cow. That's amazing.

re: #32 bosforus

Looking good!
The best photo I've ever taken to date, IMO (somewhere in central California, 2006 wildfires). It almost ended up in a newspaper.

Whoa!
That's spectacular!

re: #35 Bloodnok

Holy cow. That's amazing.

It was surreal. I'd never experience orange like that.

brb, errand with the wife...

The Origin

re: #33 albusteve

Great "namesake" name though. Powerful.

"Strong like bull."
-There's Something About Mary"...

re: #38 bosforus

brb, errand with the wife...

Is that what it's called these days?

re: #32 bosforus

Looking good!
The best photo I've ever taken to date, IMO (somewhere in central California, 2006 wildfires). It almost ended up in a newspaper.

Amazing!

re: #34 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Just to piss Steve off...

heh...little pisses me off, even when it seems like I am...except the feds, they piss me off

re: #33 albusteve

I thought "Albusteve"'d be a strange name...

re: #32 bosforus

Love that shot. Nicely framed up. Point & shooter? Pretty wide angle.

re: #41 Sharmuta

Is that what it's called these days?

checking out his new Magic Mouse...

re: #45 Rightwingconspirator

Yes, car in motion, sitting in the passenger's seat.
srsly now, brb

re: #47 bosforus

Sometimes you spend hours of setup sometimes its just there for ya.

re: #47 bosforus

Yes, car in motion, sitting in the passenger's seat.
srsly now, brb

When the car is-a rockin', don't come-a knockin'.

re: #44 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I thought "Albusteve"'d be a strange name...

my name is Elliot, Elliot Bishop...so and so...Bish is my nickname...what about you?

For Glenn Beck, SEIU Is 'Radical, Marxist,' Except When Its Nurses Treat Him for Emergency Abdominal Pains

Earlier today, a hospitalized Glenn Beck tweeted in praise of the "AMAZING drs/nurses" who have cared for him since the emergency removal of his inflamed appendix yesterday afternoon.

The quality of care he is receiving should not have come as a surprise. When Beck complained of acute abdominal pain during his radio program on Wednesday, he was rushed to a nearby hospital. The security-conscious Beck has not disclosed the name of the facility, but it's a safe bet that it is staffed by proud members of a storied union: New York's Local 1199, aka United Healthcare Workers East, which belongs to the Service Employees International Union. The SEIU has organized all of Manhattan's major hospitals, including every facility to which Beck could have conceivably been sent.

Heh.

re: #50 albusteve

my name is Elliot, Elliot Bishop...so and so...Bish is my nickname...what about you?

Hugh F'n Dalton, Jr. (Franklin, but F'n works...)

re: #52 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hugh F'n Dalton, Jr. (Franklin, but F'n works...)

This is like the last scene in Twelve Angry Men.

Fire it up!
Fire it up!

Large Hadron Rap

Bish? Oh shit! So cool! What a nic that would've made!

re: #51 Killgore Trout

Watch The Daily Show tonight. Stewart just destroyed Beck. He did like a 5 minute long impersonation. Instant classic.

Utterly freaking stunning, and to think that the Catholic church once executed people for trying to see stuff like this through the Devil's lenses and for conjecturing that the Universe was not fixed in orbit around the Earth.

re: #52 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hugh F'n Dalton, Jr. (Franklin, but F'n works...)

Hugh was my maternal grandfathers name...and my daughters paternal grandfathers name...a fine handle

re: #53 Bloodnok

I'm a big movie guy, never seen "12 Angry Men".

Poop.

I'll see it within a few days to get your comment. Thanks!

re: #56 recusancy

I'll keep an eye out for the online clips tomorrow, thanks for the heads up.

re: #58 albusteve

That's why a friend made my picture. Now, look at again. That's mah FACE!

re: #56 recusancy

That was pretty good. He definitely caught a lot of Beck's rhetorical/physical moves.

OT: I watched Apocaplypto . Amazing movie. The acting was really good, well filmed and such an interesting setting for the story. Very cool.

re: #52 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I go by Hugh.

Those who are tired of calling me "Ya Bastid!" can call me Hugh.

re: #51 Killgore Trout

Maybe Beck needs to skip the oatmeal while he is there?

re: #63 Killgore Trout

Loved it!

re: #66 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I wonder where they found those actors. The cast did such a great job.

re: #59 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm a big movie guy, never seen "12 Angry Men".

Poop.

I'll see it within a few days to get your comment. Thanks!

You will love it. One of the best.

re: #67 Killgore Trout

They were locals, mostly.

Gibson wanted an indigenous cast for the project, so the filmmakers found people from the Yucatan, Mexico City, Oaxaca, Xalapa, Veracruz and other spots. Two of the cast members are from the United States, three are from Canada and the rest hail from Central America.

[Link: www.usatoday.com...]

re: #68 Bloodnok

You will love it. One of the best.

I'm just guessing. But you don't mean the 1997 "made for TV" version?

re: #63 Killgore Trout

OT: I watched Apocaplypto . Amazing movie. The acting was really good, well filmed and such an interesting setting for the story. Very cool.

yup...totally mezmerizing imo...I loved it, and I don't watch many movies

re: #17 jaunte

"Whatever it is, it's in the way of our hyperspace bypass."

And now for something completely different...The Universe song

Wheat dreams all.
Don't be glutenous.

re: #64 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I go by Hugh.

Those who are tired of calling me "Ya Bastid!" can call me Hugh.

well, I'm Elliot...glad to know you Hugh

re: #72 Van Helsing

Whoa! WAAY up top! hee hee...

(I knew I'd beat someone to it)

[Link: www.politico.com...]

just read this article that Halperin linked to. at first I was kinda taken aback (telling moderates you'll come after us?), but reading into it it seems like Steele is saying that social moderates are ok, but the minimum requirement for GOP backing will be opposition to health reform/stimulus (didn't bush do that?)/other economic things. I'm not sure any sort of litmus test is a good idea, but I like the idea of defining being a Republican along economic, and not social issue, lines. the proof will be in the pudding.

I also saw on thepage that the family research council endorsed rubio in Florida. Now I'm more pro-Crist than ever. I'm assuming there are a lot of Floridian lizards. vote in that primary!

re: #70 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm just guessing. But you don't mean the 1997 "made for TV" version?

Heh. Nope. Henry Fonda, Lee J. Cobb. Brilliant.

re: #74 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Whoa! WAAY up top! hee hee...

(I knew I'd beat someone to it)

I missed it. I completely missed it.
My face is sooo red.

re: #63 Killgore Trout

OT: I watched Apocaplypto . Amazing movie. The acting was really good, well filmed and such an interesting setting for the story. Very cool.

Most of that movie was just long chase scene...

...and it was AWESOME.

Well, Elliot (I really wanna call you "Bish"); y'all have a good evening.

If you are not a prayin' person... send some good Karma/thoughts/whatever to those poor folks out at Fort Hood.

If you're prayin' folks... Pray hard... they need 'em.

re: #77 van helsing

I missed it. I completely missed it.
My face is sooo red.

And... you'll survive.

re: #79 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Well, Elliot (I really wanna call you "Bish"); y'all have a good evening.

If you are not a prayin' person... send some good Karma/thoughts/whatever to those poor folks out at Fort Hood.

If you're prayin' folks... Pray hard... they need 'em.

What he said.

re: #63 Killgore Trout

Some interesting mini-bios of the Apocalypto cast:

RICHARD CAN (Ten Peccary) was born in the village of Presumida in Quintana Roo and grew up in Felipe Carrillo Puerto, Quintana Roo. Richard speaks his native language of Mayan as well as Spanish, which he learned while attending school. He received his degree in Primary Education and presently lives in Cancun, Quintana Roo, where he has been a primary education instructor for the past 11 years, teaching children between the ages of 6-14 years old. APOCALYPTO is his first acting role.[Link: www.allmovieportal.com...]

The new Hubble gear's imagery has a remarkable crispness to it. Really tasty stuff. Star formation in another freakin' galaxy for pete's sake ("island universes" as Carl Sagan called them). It's beyond astounding.

re: #51 Killgore Trout

For Glenn Beck, SEIU Is 'Radical, Marxist,' Except When Its Nurses Treat Him for Emergency Abdominal Pains

Heh.

I'm sure they're still radical Marxists, but they've got the pain meds.

/My MIL called my husband to tell him that Glenn Beck was actually shot, and that people from the White House tried to kill Lou Dobbs' wife. Bringing you the latest from the land of the Alex Jones watchers.

//I asked my husband if she was actually a right-winger of any sort, or was just following the group with the best conspiracy theories. He's not sure.

re: #79 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Well, Elliot (I really wanna call you "Bish"); y'all have a good evening.

If you are not a prayin' person... send some good Karma/thoughts/whatever to those poor folks out at Fort Hood.

If you're prayin' folks... Pray hard... they need 'em.

either name is good for me...as for Ft Hood, those folks are my brothers and sisters and their loss to me is devastating...they are my American family...RIP

re: #83 Pawn of the Oppressor

The new Hubble gear's imagery has a remarkable crispness to it. Really tasty stuff. Star formation in another freakin' galaxy for pete's sake ("island universes" as Carl Sagan called them). It's beyond astounding.

Yep, its incredible. The Hubble may be NASA's finest achievement. It is certainly in the top 10.

re: #78 WindUpBird

I think it was a brilliant piece of story telling. I wasn't really sure who the main character was supposed to be for the first hour of the movie. I kept thinking, "How are they going to get out of this" but characters kept dying off. The story was laid out very well and really sucked me in.

re: #86 Dark_Falcon

Yep, its incredible. The Hubble may be NASA's finest achievement. It is certainly in the top 10.

Putting people on the moon with 60's technology wasn't too shabby.

re: #82 jaunte

DALIA HERNANDEZ (Seven) was born in Veracruz, Mexico, and presently lives in Xalapa. She is a student at the University of Veracruz where she has been studying dance for the past five years. APOCALYPTO is her first acting experience.

Wow, her first acting gig. She's cute as a button too.

re: #84 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm sure they're still radical Marxists, but they've got the pain meds.

/My MIL called my husband to tell him that Glenn Beck was actually shot, and that people from the White House tried to kill Lou Dobbs' wife. Bringing you the latest from the land of the Alex Jones watchers.

//I asked my husband if she was actually a right-winger of any sort, or was just following the group with the best conspiracy theories. He's not sure.

Good stuff but be careful about Beck and pain meds. I don't want the man developing a new addiction. That said, I hope he uses his time off to reflect and comes back a better man.

re: #87 Killgore Trout

I think it was a brilliant piece of story telling. I wasn't really sure who the main character was supposed to be for the first hour of the movie. I kept thinking, "How are they going to get out of this" but characters kept dying off. The story was laid out very well and really sucked me in.

told you so...heh, how about those pyramid people?...the nobility and priests?...whoa

re: #91 albusteve

The little fat kid freaked me out. He was the spookiest of the bunch.

Thank you for the many updings for my photo. It was a 2006 Sony Cybershot (don't remember the model, it was about $250-$300 and was the next summer on a kayaking trip down the Colorado, I loved that camera)

re: #89 Killgore Trout

Wow, her first acting gig. She's cute as a button too.

Photo for the fact checkers out there:
Image: apocalyptolrg4.jpg

re: #93 bosforus

Thank you for the many updings for my photo. It was a 2006 Sony Cybershot (don't remember the model, it was about $250-$300 and was destroyed the next summer on a kayaking trip down the Colorado, I loved that camera)

re: #92 Killgore Trout

The little fat kid freaked me out. He was the spookiest of the bunch.

hahaha!...really

re: #96 albusteve

Now I'm going to have nightmares about fat kids in pyramids.

re: #97 Killgore Trout

Now I'm going to have nightmares about fat kids in pyramids.

not me...eat your heart out bro

Maybe this is old news--the shooter isn't dead?

re: #99 SanFranciscoZionist

Nope, not dead.

re: #99 SanFranciscoZionist

Maybe this is old news--the shooter isn't dead?

He's not quite dead yet.

He was dead, but he got better.

thank you Charles for not blocking my reg, and providing a place to spill my beans once in a while...and thanks to all the folks who enlighten me, share the good stuff and let the bad stuff pass away...we are all of the same nest...

I'm out like Buster Mathis in 12

re: #98 albusteve

eat your heart out bro

Iyeee!

re: #103 albusteve

Cheers.

re: #99 SanFranciscoZionist

Nope, he's still ticking.

Eerie bit of information..

He served eight years as an enlisted soldier. He also served in the ROTC as an undergraduate at Virginia Tech University in Blacksburg. He received a bachelor's degree in biochemistry there in 1997.

VT?

OBAMA DOES THRILLER

Thanks. I just lost several hours of news watching to Report Card Night.

re: #104 Killgore Trout

johnny quest ding.

More on Arrests At Pelosi's Office

Surprise, surprise, seems like pro-life extremist Randall Terry was at the center of that incident at Speaker Pelosi's office where a bunch of Tea Partiers got arrested. Somehow he didn't get arrested though.

The Tea Parties got lucky today that their antics were overshadowed.

re: #108 Racer X

OBAMA DOES THRILLER

[Video]

Darkness falls across the land,
Obamacare is close at hand.
Liberals crawling, every crook,
to steal away your pocketbook.

OMG... he's not dead?
That's more tragedy for the families of the survivors .

re: #106 Killgore Trout
Like a time bomb.

re: #111 Killgore Trout

More on Arrests At Pelosi's Office

[Video]
The Tea Parties got lucky today that their antics were overshadowed.

Yep, that they did. The Tea Party will be mostly forgotten, even by Bachmann and Luap Nor. Ft. Hood will dominate the headlines tomorrow.

re: #113 tradewind

OMG... he's not dead?
That's more tragedy for the families of the survivors.

Not entirely. Since we got him alive, we can try him, convict him, and execute him. That should help provide some closure.

re: #113 tradewind

OMG... he's not dead?
That's more tragedy for the families of the survivors .

Like a time bomb.

Not really. This way, the authorities will be able to figure out why he did what he did. And, then, they'll execute him.

Threats of violence

re: #115 Dark_Falcon

re: #116 MandyManners

That's what I was thinking.

I wonder how many down-dings got handed out today.

re: #100 Slumbering Behemoth

Nope, not dead.

He'll probably wish he was before it's all over. Still though, why was he dead for so long, and then suddenly he was alive? That's kinda weird.

re: #117 Killgore Trout

I almost down-dinged that just for the tie.

re: #118 Slumbering Behemoth

re: #116 MandyManners

That's what I was thinking.

I cannot imagine his not being executed.

re: #119 MandyManners

It was a surprisingly contentious day around here.

re: #117 Killgore Trout

Threats of violence

Maybe I'm wrong but, I don't worry about those who parade around with such signs. It's the quiet ones who worry me.

re: #111 Killgore Trout

Osama Bin Randall?

re: #124 MandyManners

Maybe I'm wrong but, I don't worry about those who parade around with such signs. It's the quiet ones who worry me.

Some barking dogs bite.

re: #123 Killgore Trout

It was a surprisingly contentious day around here.

Yeah, two of my Top 10 comments were jumping someone's butt.

A Universe From Nothing

re: #126 Killgore Trout

Some barking dogs bite.

Did Roerder (sp? of the guy who allegedly killed Dr. Tiller?) carry signs?

Tonight I defriended someone on Facebook (someone who used to be a lizard) because she compared the shooter to "Barack HUSSEIN Obama." And other friends of her's were commenting about how we shouldn't let Muslims in the military.

re: #130 Mad Al-Jaffee

Tonight I defriended someone on Facebook (someone who used to be a lizard) because she compared the shooter to "Barack HUSSEIN Obama." And other friends of her's were commenting about how we shouldn't let Muslims in the military.

Actually, the shooter and Obama do have things in common. Ten fingers, ten toes, red blood...

If You're Gonna Be Dumb

re: #122 MandyManners

I cannot imagine his not being executed.

Nor can I. I don't imagine will here much about the court proceedings until after the verdict, though.

re: #117 Killgore Trout

Threats of violence

Here's another nasty one. This guy took those kids singing about Obama and married that song to Sarah Palin's "Death Panels" theme:

Counterproductive Fear-Mongering

re: #122 MandyManners

I cannot imagine his not being executed.

I'll volunteer for the duty

Good night, Lizards.

re: #134 Dark_Falcon

Here's another nasty one. This guy took those kids singing about Obama and married that song to Sarah Palin's "Death Panels" theme:

Counterproductive Fear-Mongering

Same cheesy slicked-back-hair guy. How many dickhead signs does this guy have anyways?

re: #131 cliffster

Actually, the shooter and Obama do have things in common. Ten fingers, ten toes, red blood...

//Now, have we actually seen Obama's feet? Why won't Obama show us his feet? WHAT IS HE HIDING!!11!!!???

re: #136 MandyManners

Good night, Lizards.

in bed

re: #136 MandyManners

'Nite Mandy... ;-)

re: #136 MandyManners

Good night, Lizards.

goodnight to you too

re: #135 soxfan4life

I'll volunteer for the duty

I'm sure there will be a long list of more qualified or deserving folks ahead of me, but this is a definite clawhammer case for me.

re: #87 Killgore Trout

I think it was a brilliant piece of story telling. I wasn't really sure who the main character was supposed to be for the first hour of the movie. I kept thinking, "How are they going to get out of this" but characters kept dying off. The story was laid out very well and really sucked me in.

Oh, it totally was, I just remember feeling physically tired after the credits rolled. Probably helped that I saw it in the theater. All that running!

re: #142 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm sure there will be a long list of more qualified or deserving folks ahead of me, but this is a definite clawhammer case for me.

Whatever method is used, it won't be as painful or frightening for Hassan as it was for his victims.

re: #144 soxfan4life

Whatever method is used, it won't be as painful or frightening for Hassan as it was for his victims.

Occurs to me that may need some explanation. I am, being a bleeding-heart liberal, technically opposed to the death penalty. I make exceptions in cases where, if I was asked to, I would carry out the execution myself with a clawhammer. Hence, clawhammer cases.

re: #143 WindUpBird

Have you seen the South Park parody of it?

re: #120 cliffster

He'll probably wish he was before it's all over. Still though, why was he dead for so long, and then suddenly he was alive? That's kinda weird.

Probably had something to do with the early stages of investigation, maybe.

re: #147 Slumbering Behemoth

Probably had something to do with the early stages of investigation, maybe.

Probably.

re: #146 Mad Al-Jaffee

Have you seen the South Park parody of it?

I have not! Must...find...on...internet..

re: #149 WindUpBird

I have not! Must...find...on...internet..

I don't remember the title, but it's about head lice. I'll see if I can find it.

re: #145 SanFranciscoZionist

Occurs to me that may need some explanation. I am, being a bleeding-heart liberal, technically opposed to the death penalty. I make exceptions in cases where, if I was asked to, I would carry out the execution myself with a clawhammer. Hence, clawhammer cases.

I figured that was what you meant. Given the whole cruel and unusual thing whatever method is used he gets off easier than his victims did.

re: #116 MandyManners

Not really. This way, the authorities will be able to figure out why he did what he did. And, then, they'll execute him.

Here's the part where you get to advocate in favor of the state being able to determine who lives and who dies, and on the basis of what evidence and circumstances.

re: #149 WindUpBird

It's from season 11, Lice Capades. You can watch it here:

[Link: www.southparkstudios.com...]

re: #145 SanFranciscoZionist

Occurs to me that may need some explanation. I am, being a bleeding-heart liberal, technically opposed to the death penalty. I make exceptions in cases where, if I was asked to, I would carry out the execution myself with a clawhammer. Hence, clawhammer cases.

I don't disagree, except that I say I support capital punishment in the most extreme cases. Child molesters come to mind. I feel it's for people who are not correctable, and who should never be allowed back into polite company for as long as they live. Most fall outside this definition, imo, but some crimes... they just call for it.

re: #153 Mad Al-Jaffee

It's from season 11, Lice Capades. You can watch it here:

[Link: www.southparkstudios.com...]

Its good, but I thought it was a parody of The Day After Tomorrow.

re: #153 Mad Al-Jaffee

It's from season 11, Lice Capades. You can watch it here:

[Link: www.southparkstudios.com...]

Genius! Thanks.

(My favorite South Park eps are the Barbara Streisand monster versus Robert Smith from the Cure monster, and the Major Boobage episode which heavily references the movie Heavy Metal)

Interesting to compare comments in this thread with a current one over on HotAir, which is about a Dawkins statement regarding whether "aliens" would look like us.

As expected, many of the posts over there are just creationists whining... but his is a different, and choice, one:

I think that ETs are more likely to look like Mexicans and speak Spanish. That way, they’re blend in very well.

BottomLine5 on November 5, 2009 at 8:41 PM

Lovely crowd they have over there...
/☔

re: #157 freetoken

Interesting to compare comments in this thread with a current one over on HotAir, which is about a Dawkins statement regarding whether "aliens" would look like us.

As expected, many of the posts over there are just creationists whining... but his is a different, and choice, one:

Lovely crowd they have over there...
/☔

You know, worrying about illegal immigration is one thing, but this phobia/disdain that so many people seem to have about Mexicans, the Spanish language, and Mexican culture, just confuses the hell out of me.

Good night all. Let's hope tomorrow is a better day than today was. Say a prayer for todays victims and their families. Thank you all for letting me vent some, we may have disagreed in the past or will in the future, but tonight you are all so appreciated by me. God bless you all.

re: #159 soxfan4life

God Bless you! Stay safe, and all of America is with Fort Hood tonight.

re: #159 soxfan4life

Good night all. Let's hope tomorrow is a better day than today was. Say a prayer for todays victims and their families. Thank you all for letting me vent some, we may have disagreed in the past or will in the future, but tonight you are all so appreciated by me. God bless you all.

You are appreciated by us, and then some. God bless you

re: #154 Sharmuta

I don't disagree, except that I say I support capital punishment in the most extreme cases. Child molesters come to mind. I feel it's for people who are not correctable, and who should never be allowed back into polite company for as long as they live. Most fall outside this definition, imo, but some crimes... they just call for it.

I'm against the death penalty but it's not a make-or-break issue for me. The only part about it that gets me worked up is that I expect a very high burden of proof. The story of that man in Texas who was executed and is now thought to have been innocent breaks my heart.

re: #137 cliffster

Same cheesy slicked-back-hair guy. How many dickhead signs does this guy have anyways?

Slick-back-hair guy bears a strong resemblance to George Hutchins, the batshit crazy racist who is running for the GOP congressional nomination in NC, and whose amateurishly psychedelic website has to be seen to be believed.

re: #159 soxfan4life

{soxfan4life}

Thanks for coming in and letting everyone know that you're okay.

re: #163 Shiplord Kirel

Slick-back-hair guy bears a strong resemblance to George Hutchins, the batshit crazy racist who is running for the GOP congressional nomination in NC, and whose amateurishly psychedelic website has to be seen to be believed.

I love that guy's site so much. I sent the link to all my friends. It's like being inside a John Birch Society pinball machine.

Today reminds me starkly that there is real, objective evil in this world. Along with everyone else, I'm praying, sending positive thoughts, out to those lost and to those who lost someone. I have two friends based there, so when I initially heard the news and where it occurred, my heart and stomach just froze. It's such as sickening feeling to know that someone you know and love could have had this happen to them. Thank God I was able to call my former job right away, and through them found out that they were ok. And soxfan4life, I am so glad you're ok too! Be well. And know that you and those around you aren't alone in this. This is one of those moments when we can say "we're all Fort Hood now". God bless you guys!

re: #163 Shiplord Kirel

Slick-back-hair guy bears a strong resemblance to George Hutchins, the batshit crazy racist who is running for the GOP congressional nomination in NC, and whose amateurishly psychedelic website has to be seen to be believed.

I like how he picked up an endorsement from Teddy Roosevelt.

re: #159 soxfan4life

And God bless you!

re: #165 WindUpBird

I love that guy's site so much. I sent the link to all my friends. It's like being inside a John Birch Society pinball machine.

It is amazing. At first I really suspected the site was another Bonsai Kitten or Landover Baptist Church, but various lizards posted links proving that it is the real thing and Hutchins is a real candidate.

re: #163 Shiplord Kirel

Slick-back-hair guy bears a strong resemblance to George Hutchins, the batshit crazy racist who is running for the GOP congressional nomination in NC, and whose amateurishly psychedelic website has to be seen to be believed.

Wow!!! I am bookmarking that baby for when I have a good few beers down my neck this weekend.

re: #167 Sharmuta

I hear you can only get one of those if you have killed a grizzly bear with nothing but a rock before you reach the age of 15.

re: #167 Sharmuta

I like how he picked up an endorsement from Teddy Roosevelt.

I hope Glenn Beck doesn't hear about this...he hates Teddy nearly as much as he hates Franklin Delano!

re: #163 Shiplord Kirel

I remember somebody mentioning him the other night, but didn't visit. Holy crap! I've stared into the abyss and seen bat-shit crazy! I mean seriously mental. Cuckoo coco puffs. Elevator doesn't stop on every floor. More than a few cards short of a deck. It must be seriously crowded inside that head of his. Wow.

re: #170 bratwurst

I need a beer right now after looking at that bizarro site. Thank God for Guinness!

Awesome. It will be a great day in human history when we can travel to the stars and observe wonders such as this up close.

"While residing in Europe, and the Middle East, throughout the 21st Century, and plus, during the final part, of the 20th Century, I have remained a Solid Legal NORTH CAROLINA Resident."

re: #176 SanFranciscoZionist

I don't think North Carolina is really his home "state" if you know what I mean. Wink, wink.

re: #176 SanFranciscoZionist

"While residing in Europe, and the Middle East, throughout the 21st Century, and plus, during the final part, of the 20th Century, I have remained a Solid Legal NORTH CAROLINA Resident."

No doubt through the wonders of quantum mechanics.

I found a one stop shop for all the kooks running for various offices in 2010.

It's a who's who of all the Paulestinians and Tea Party kooks who will be embarrassing he right in days to come.

[Link: thisnovember5th.com...]

re: #176 SanFranciscoZionist

I really want to know what meds he's on. I mean really, that could be a scary ass, tripped out, freakin' joy ride through Anthony Burgess' mindwarp.

re: #63 Killgore Trout

OT: I watched Apocaplypto . Amazing movie. The acting was really good, well filmed and such an interesting setting for the story. Very cool.

I found that movie riveting. Very well put together.

One I watched recently is one that I had not heard about. Monster. Some great acting. I looked it up on IMDB and realized it was Charlize Theron. Just looked up Roger Ebert's review and he said "This is one of the greatest performances in the history of the cinema."

re: #165 WindUpBird

It's like being inside a John Birch Society pinball machine.

Rotating title nomination.

re: #179 ArchangelMichael

I found a one stop shop for all the kooks running for various offices in 2010.

It's a who's who of all the Paulestinians and Tea Party kooks who will be embarrassing he right in days to come.

[Link: thisnovember5th.com...]

That mob should embarrass everyone who lives on the same planet. This odd alliance between red-meat libertarians and various theocrats is a new, and more extreme, iteration of the shotgun wedding that united political conservatives and the nascent religious right in the late 70s and early 80s. They are ultimately going in completely different directions but none of them seem to have the brains to realize it.

re: #183 Shiplord Kirel

That mob should embarrass everyone who lives on the same planet. This odd alliance between red-meat libertarians and various theocrats is a new, and more extreme, iteration of the shotgun wedding that united political conservatives and the nascent religious right in the late 70s and early 80s. They are ultimately going in completely different directions but none of them seem to have the brains to realize it.

re: #183 Shiplord Kirel

They are ultimately going in completely different directions but none of them seem to have the brains to realize it.

One would think so, eh? However, as the old saying goes, politics makes for strange bedfellows.

re: #183 Shiplord Kirel

Very well put. They're united by a common hatred. It's a marriage of convenience. If they ever got power (God forbid!), they'd immediately turn on each other like all dualistic utopians always do.

re: #186 Irenicum

Very well put. They're united by a common hatred. It's a marriage of convenience. If they ever got power (God forbid!), they'd immediately turn on each other like all dualistic utopians always do.

Yep, I can see this coalition falling apart pretty fast when they really have to deal with the issues rather than frothing about them:

The Oval Office, February 2017

Theocrat president: "Hey, goddamit, what's this arrest in Missouri? That's a friend of mine!"
Paulian attorney-general: "Well, he shot an abortion doctor right in front of God and everybody."
T-POTUS: "So? I thought you were against abortion!"
PAG: "No you moron, I'm against the government paying for it!"

About the only thing they agree is the right to keep and bear arms so this conflict could become very interesting indeed.

Well, this brain is tired. I've written as much as I can on theology (for a paper) and politics (for here!). And I still need to write a little more for theology tomorrow. In the words of the mad scientist chasing Bugs Bunny,
nighty night!

re: #188 Irenicum

g'nite...

Scozzafava Opens Up About Election Aftermath

After months of criticism from conservatives for her moderate views on issues including gay marriage and abortion, the endorsement brought out what many said were some mean-spirited comments -- among them, rough language from Rush Limbaugh.

"If the type of hatred, and the name calling and the lies and innuendo is the soul of our party, all is not well with thy soul," Scozzafava said.

BTW, with the world series finally over (and the Yankees proving once again that money can buy happiness), Fringe is back on the air...

Downloading tonight's episode (heh... it's broadcast TV ...) and there are more than 27000 people on this torrent! The fans must have been really hungry.

So what's new with that Hasan fucker? Did I miss anything in the last five hours?

re: #28 reine.de.tout

Beg pardon? Could use a good laugh, care to share with everyone else?

re: #192 TheMatrix31

He's alive and in custody. That's about the most recent news that I know of.

re: #194 Slumbering Behemoth

Boo. Even though that's a good thing.

re: #195 TheMatrix31

The silver lining in that, if you will, is that there will be a trial that will expose motive. There won't have to be any speculation.

re: #115 Dark_Falcon

Not entirely. Since we got him alive, we can try him, convict him, and execute him. That should help provide some closure.

He can also be pumped dry of any information he may have about others who he may have been involved with.

Either way, information extraction and the application of justice will be greatly streamlined, given that this clearly falls within the military's jurisdiction.

OH WOW!!! Love the picture. Just set it to be my desktop

Seeing photos like this really speaks to the need for more space exploration not less. Man's future is in the stars.

gorgeous and amazing pictures.

Phil Plait kicks ass!