What is that thing their perched on?

Our world... has gone to the birds!

They don't seem to concerned about shopping for Christmas... unlike some of us.

I wonder if they know the real meaning behind Santa Clause?

/fwiw... that song I consider the nadir of Christmas music, the perfect blend of smarm with pseudo-Christianity... it'll be all uphill from here.

PS: 48 days...

re: #1 Slumbering Behemoth

You mean "they're", stupid.

re: #2 freetoken

gag@that song...

I'll worry about Christmas shopping in December. Right now I am more concerned about shopping for Thanksgiving.

re: #5 Slumbering Behemoth

gag@that song...

It's certainly gag-worthy.

Shit...aside from 12 GI's getting killed today at Ft. Hood, I think the reporting surrounding this has telegraphed to our enemies how potentially vulnerable some of out military facilites are to this sort of attack. There's a couple of major Army bases I can name off the top of my head that don't bother with gates or sentries or anything along those lines. Pretty much anyone can come and go as they please by way of a major highway or some backroads. And...as mentioned when the Jersey Six dipshits were caught with their jihadi wannabe videos, it's not like every GI on base is walking around with an M249 and a belt of 10,000 rounds slung over their shoulder. Unless they're out in the field or being deployed, the weaponry is locked away at each company's respective HQ (a notable exception being the MPs).

/Starting to worry about copycats

re: #1 Slumbering Behemoth

What is that thing their perched on?

That, my friend, is an oil boom. It keeps your floating muck in your muckish area, for easy cleanup.

re: #8 haakondahl

Crap. I was hoping for a silly or sarcastic answer, not a legit one. :)

I thought it might be something like that, but I wasn't sure. I've only heard of those things, never seen one.

re: #7 Fenway_Nation

I would think that ROE has changed. Let's hope it's a local decision rather than one fro m the top.

re: #9 Slumbering Behemoth

Crap. I was hoping for a silly or sarcastic answer, not a legit one. :)

I thought it might be something like that, but I wasn't sure. I've only heard of those things, never seen one.

Ever since Exxon Valdez the intensity is up.

Some oil cos. have had the toys in place for decades before that.

LoL, I love that picture. Thank you. LoL.

[Link: www.tuffboom.com...]

For what's it worth

re: #10 Bobibutu

Like I said earlier- there's a couple of major army bases in Georgia with no gates, no sentries and any jihadi so inclined could just drive on the base with a truck bomb or suicide vest, make their way to a crowded area and blammo...

Today's attack came from within- this wasn't some newbie homesick E2 who snapped after getting a dear John letter from his sweetie. The assailant was awarded the rank of Major in the United States Army.

I had a thought that just sickened me. Do you think they're celebrating and passing out candy in Gaza today?

re: #14 Fenway_Nation

The assailant was awarded the rank of Major in the United States Army.

He was a physician.

re: #5 Slumbering Behemoth

gag@that song...

I'll worry about Christmas shopping in December. Right now I am more concerned about shopping for Thanksgiving.

Crap. I went to the local Borders yesterday, and they are already in full Christmas regalia - Christmas trees, faux presents, displays of holiday books and music. Gah! It's not even a week past Halloween yet.

Make it stop!

re: #14 Fenway_Nation

What I think does not matter. We have an ongoing problem - Houston. What "our" response is - does.

re: #13 Bobibutu

Cool link. I thought this particular product was quite neat. Sad that such a thing is necessary, but cool tech none the less.

re: #15 freetoken

Physician or psychiatrist? Either case, not the-US-Army-According-to-Code -Pink semiliterate hillbilly or inner-city gangbanger. The point I'm trying to make is that this wasn't some green 'Private Pyle' type snapping. This was somebody educated and who was in the military long enough to make it to O-4.

re: #18 Slumbering Behemoth

Whip me - beat me - but man I do love technology.

re: #16 SixDegrees

Oh, I see. You are one of them. A soulless, immoral soldier in the War Against Christmas^TM!

/O'Reilly

re: #19 Fenway_Nation

Psychiatrists are physicians. That he was an O-4 means he had what, one promotion during his entire career? Given what else has come out about him, I think it is reasonable to question he had any organized motives, and that we will need to wait and see what the investigation turns up.

re: #19 Fenway_Nation

And he had been reprimanded for pushing Islam over the years.

re: #21 Slumbering Behemoth

Oh, I see. You are one of them. A soulless, immoral soldier in the War Against Christmas^TM!

/O'Reilly

I just happen to think that a solid month of hearing Sammy Davis and Frank Sinatra compilations of Christmas carols bleated endlessly through cheap speakers is more than enough. Now we're extending that Hell on earth to two months - a full sixth of the year. It's as loathsome and terrifying as having Congress try to take over a sixth of the economy.

re: #16 SixDegrees

Get used to it - marketing has pushed sales efforts closer and closer to events for some time now.

I hear that not only is Major Hasan still alive, but the police officer who shot and wounded him is still alive as well.

But then again, there's been so much contradictory information coming fast and furious out of Ft. Hood today.

re: #26 Fenway_Nation

Both alive according to latest reports.

This will be interesting to say the least.

re: #26 Fenway_Nation

I hear that not only is Major Hasan still alive, but the police officer who shot and wounded him is still alive as well.

Both of those things were confirmed in a press conference with a person from the base. I am EXTREMELY grateful to here that the officer is alive and well.

re: #28 Slumbering Behemoth

I am probably not alone wishing for five minutes to comfort him.
/

re: #29 Bobibutu

Heh. It was my understanding that the police officer (Hero in this case), is a female. So I guess "Heroine" would be more accurate.

re: #28 Slumbering Behemoth

Both of those things were confirmed in a press conference with a person from the base. I am EXTREMELY grateful to here that the officer is alive and well.

Agree. And although I wouldn't extend my gratefulness to the health of the major, I can't say that I'm altogether sorry he's alive as well. It gives us a chance to get actual answers direct from the source which we might not be able to obtain otherwise.

And his case, along with any interrogations, fall clearly within the military's jurisdiction. Which ought to greatly streamline the process of extracting any useful information he may have.

A beautiful photograph.

Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, the man accused of shooting and killing 12 people at Fort Hood in Texas spotted hours before the violence.

re: #30 Slumbering Behemoth

Heh. It was my understanding that the police officer (Hero in this case), is a female. So I guess "Heroine" would be more accurate.

That's what I heard when she was presumed dead. Then I heard the police officer in question was still alive and I was wondering if maybe they got the gender wrong, too...

re: #31 SixDegrees

Agreed. It's cold comfort, but it might help the bereaved achieve some kind of closure to know what the murderous assholes motives were, rather than having to speculate.

re: #35 Slumbering Behemoth

Think 9-11 and SJS - that should do it.

Gotta go down - nite all.

re: #36 Bobibutu

'Nite!

re: #34 Fenway_Nation

I've dug up a vid for the most recent press conference. Hope this helps to clear up some confusion.

re: #36 Bobibutu

That may turn out to be true, but with him in custody rather than dead, we will find out for sure.

My earlier point was that knowing, for a fact, what the motives were behind this mass murder will help the bereaved to find some sort of closure. For those who are grieving the loss of a loved one, not truly knowing certain details can gnaw at them for the rest of their lives.

re: #35 Slumbering Behemoth

Cold comfort that this fucking shitstain was a doctor and not in combat arms where he could have access to stuff much nastier and more lethal than some pistols.

re: #39 Fenway_Nation

You got that right. There are some aspects in this story that we can take some comfort in, but it's really difficult feel any of that right now.

Things could have gone much worse, but it's still horrible, disgusting, and heartbreaking enough as it is.

Anyhow, I'm logging off for the night. Catch ya later Fenway.

re: #40 Slumbering Behemoth

Hasta la pasta!

Here's an interesting read:Aerosols cloud the climate picture

Recently, Shindell and his colleagues modified a NASA climate model to consider chemical reactions among major atmospheric constituents and the resulting effect on aerosol concentration. Their report, in the Oct. 29 Science, reveals that some greenhouse gases have a substantially stronger warming effect than previously recognized because they take part in reactions that destroy aerosols, while others actually tend to boost concentrations of cooling aerosols. The new study “shows that you can’t make efficient climate policy without considering the effects of air pollution,” says Almut Arneth, an ecosystem modeler at Lund University in Sweden.

New portions of the revised model consider the influence of methane, carbon monoxide and nitrogen oxides on the atmospheric concentration of hydroxyl radicals, highly reactive molecules sometimes referred to as the atmosphere’s detergent. Hydroxyl concentrations can be depleted as these radicals react with gases in the atmosphere, and this slows the reactions that produce light-colored, light-scattering sulfate aerosols, Shindell says. “And a lower number of aerosols means a lower cooling effect,” he notes.

Analyses using the revised model suggest that the aerosol-stifling power of methane and carbon monoxide considerably boosts the planet-warming effect of these gases. Previous studies have shown that a kilogram of methane, over the course of a century, warms Earth about 25 times more effectively than a kilogram of carbon dioxide does. But add in methane’s hydroxyl-consuming effect, and its planet-warming potential jumps to 28 times that of CO2, an increase of 12 percent, Shindell says. (Scientists use carbon dioxide as a baseline largely because it is a common, long-lived greenhouse gas in the atmosphere and its warming effects are well known.)

Those crazy scientists, what will they think of next?

Fuck...looks like the NYT is already making excuses for Major Hasan's rampage.

"Suspect Was ‘Mortified’ About Deployment to War"

Then he chose the wrong career path.

Choosing the Army to pay for your college tuition is not wrong, but it is when you disagree with fighting for your country. This man is beyond disgusting. Hope he fries.

Interesting. Chris Christie was the US Attourney that prosecuted the Fort Dix Fuckwits Six.

Did that come up in the campaign at all?

/akarra- where are yooou?

So he went bonkers becasue he could not find a good religious woman who wears a veil and because he was persecuted for being a Muslim?

The Extreme Right is gonna have a field day with this one, right now they seem to be just taking a breather and letting it all sink in before they come out swimming.

First, they will need to wait for a seriously apologist leftist moonbat to imply that we brought this on ourselves for picking on the poor fellow for being Muslim (which is coming, if it is not out thre already) and then they will be in position to remind us that America did infact bring this on itself in that we elected a crypto-Muslim foreign-born America- and Army-hating president.

re: #46 ralphieboy

Christ your schtick gets real old real quick. So glad you see the murder of a dozen American servicemen as an opportunity to keep harping about the right wing.

re: #46 ralphieboy

Fuck you with your bullshit.

re: #47 Fenway_Nation

Clearly you just have ODS.

/

re: #49 TheMatrix31

Is it too much to ask that the moonbat ralphieboy predicts is going to go out in front of the cameras or write a lengthy op-ed in the NY Times proclaiming the US Army brought this on themselves not be a member of 0bama's cabinet?

/tepid, half-hearted sarc

re: #50 Fenway_Nation

I dont give a fuck what that asshole does.

Fenway - put in the spin-offs a link to a new train book that is getting wide play in the green-o-sphere. Know you care more about the physical trains (and photos thereof) than the social aspects, but you might find it of some interest.

re: #47 Fenway_Nation

Christ your schtick gets real old real quick. So glad you see the murder of a dozen American servicemen as an opportunity to keep harping about the right wing.

I have seen what the Extreme Right (please note there is a difference between these goombahs and the Right Wing) has done with everything from Obama's "date night" to his choice of house pet. I cannot imagine they will not take this event as a chance to really lay it on thick.

re: #52 freetoken

Interesting...might have to harp on my local library to get that. And then they'll be like 'Sure thing Mr. Fenway- wait a sec...it says here you have outstanding fines of $147'

re: #53 ralphieboy

Fuck off, asshole.

re: #53 ralphieboy

And what I've seen from the left...many ascpects of the left is that they'll redefine things like 'Extreme Right Wing', 'Patriotic', 'Moderate', 'Racist' or 'Wealthy' on the fly when it better suits them.

I haven't changed my mind on issues like same-sex marriage in the last year, which according to some moves me from the 'Moderate' to 'Foaming at the Mouth Religous Right why don't you just join the Aryan Nations already, Hatemonger?' category.

Serving in the Army? Sending off books and snacks to GI's stationed overseas? Kinda-sorta patriotic in an dorky, uncool, archaic, out-of-touch manner.

Screeching through a bullhorn while helping Code Pink blockade an Armed Forces recruiting office? Well gosh golly gee...apparently that's statue of liberty clutching an apple pie while singing the Star Spangled Banner before a baseball game wholesome all-American caliber patriotic.

In other words, I'm wary of those on the left, especially those who come bearing snark, be the only ones who define what is 'Extreme Right Wing'...even if I don't [initially] fall into their definition of what constitutes that...

Birds! I'm partial to birds.

re: #57 WindUpBird

Birds! I'm partial to birds.

I like birds, with a side of stuffing and brussel sprout casserole.
//

...death toll is 13 now?!

re: #56 Fenway_Nation

Eventually, we'll get our same-sex marriage, even if it's called "civil unions" or "schmarriage" or "homosexual coupling for make benefit of States United". Whatever political hoops need to be navigated to make it happen, whatever it needs to be called to get it through. It may take 2 years, may take 10. But my generation'll get it done.

As far as ideologues on the far left or the far right, avoid them both and all will be well. I believe serving in the Army is patriotic, and I believe protesting a war is patriotic. I can protest a war and still, with a clear conscience, send goodie bags to my friend who makes flyers in Iraq (or used to, now he's an officer) to warn kids against land mines. It's all patriotic. Nobody owns the concept. Anyone who claims they do, distrust that person.

Al Franken, a man so liberal that he would be savaged upon his mere mention by many of LGF's regulars, has received a 10 year merit award from the USO. Patriotism!

re: #59 TheMatrix31

...death toll is 13 now?!

That's what I'm hearing.

re: #58 Cannadian Club Akbar

I like birds, with a side of stuffing and brussel sprout casserole.
//

I like eating them, I like watching them fly. That makes me a cannibal, but a gourmet one.

re: #62 WindUpBird

I like most birds, except sea gulls. They are air rats.

re: #61 Cannadian Club Akbar

But the shooter and the police officer who shot him are both alive (but wounded) when they were reported as both having shot and killed each other earlier, right?

re: #60 WindUpBird

Eventually, we'll get our same-sex marriage, even if it's called "civil unions" or "schmarriage" or "homosexual coupling for make benefit of States United". Whatever political hoops need to be navigated to make it happen, whatever it needs to be called to get it through. It may take 2 years, may take 10. But my generation'll get it done.

As far as ideologues on the far left or the far right, avoid them both and all will be well. I believe serving in the Army is patriotic, and I believe protesting a war is patriotic. I can protest a war and still, with a clear conscience, send goodie bags to my friend who makes flyers in Iraq (or used to, now he's an officer) to warn kids against land mines. It's all patriotic. Nobody owns the concept. Anyone who claims they do, distrust that person.

Al Franken, a man so liberal that he would be savaged upon his mere mention by many of LGF's regulars, has received a 10 year merit award from the USO. Patriotism!

In "Extreme Right" I mean those who imply that Obama and his policies comprise a menace to the Constitution that needs to be removed with force if necessary.

I mean those who call his health care bill "a bigger threat than terrorism", thereby implying that it needs to be stopped with force if necessary.

And I do not mean those who simply oppose abortion, but I certainly mean those who murder abortionists or provide financial and moral support to those who do.

And I also expand it to include people who cannot disagree on a blogsite without resorting to name-calling...

re: #64 Fenway_Nation

But the shooter and the police officer who shot him are both alive (but wounded) when they were reported as both having shot and killed each other earlier, right?

See, I'm not sure. Something like this creates such confusion. I can only go by what I read and hear on the radio. And hope the media doesn't jump the shark, which they always do.

re: #65 ralphieboy

I'm calling you names because you're using a national tragedy to push your fucking agenda. No one gives a FUCK about the "extreme right wing" in a time like this.

re: #67 TheMatrix31

I'm sure the QuisKoslings do...

/oops...maybe not.

re: #67 TheMatrix31

I'm calling you names because you're using a national tragedy to push your fucking agenda. No one gives a FUCK about the "extreme right wing" in a time like this.

The Extreme Right Wing is a national tragedy, it is ruining the level of politics and public discourse in this nation, and is going to make it nigh well impossible for us to learn anything from this tragedy.

(And they like calling people names when they disagree)

re: #68 Fenway_Nation

I'm sure the QuisKoslings do...

/oops...maybe not.

Pieces of TRASH.

re: #67 TheMatrix31

I'm calling you names because you're using a national tragedy to push your fucking agenda. No one gives a FUCK about the "extreme right wing" in a time like this.

A couple of posters tried this sort of trolling on the main shooting thread, downstairs, last night.

And that's exactly what it is - trolling. Ignore the trolls.

re: #69 ralphieboy

Mm...riiight...because the 8 years under president Bush was all kid-gloves and 'lets-just-agree-to-disagree' gentlemanly debating societeys amongst opposition politicians and media outlets.

re: #63 Cannadian Club Akbar

I like most birds, except sea gulls. They are air rats.

I'm in the NW, my friend has a cabin on Orcas island. Seagulls are evil but familiar things to me :D

re: #71 SixDegrees

It's hard man. I mean, this is the worst thing to happen on our soil in 8 years.

re: #63 Cannadian Club Akbar

I like most birds, except sea gulls. They are air rats.

I like most people, except those that don't like sea gulls.

re: #73 WindUpBird

I'm in the NW, my friend has a cabin on Orcas island. Seagulls are evil but familiar things to me :D

I live in Florida and have actually seen gulls snatch food out of peoples hands. Pelicans OTOH are like wise old men.:)

MINE! MINE! MINE!

re: #74 TheMatrix31

It's hard man. I mean, this is the worst thing to happen on our soil in 8 years.

Sure. But they are only attempting to draw attention to themselves by eliciting responses. They can't tolerate being ignored.

re: #74 TheMatrix31

It's hard man. I mean, this is the worst thing to happen on our soil in 8 years.

Katrina was worse.

On a different topic - I heard that Glenn Beck's appendix realized whose abdomen it was living in, and committed suicide. Beck seems to have survived the messy aftermath.

re: #79 WindUpBird

Katrina was worse.

They're really incomparable.

No, Glenn Beck's appendix was a useless socialist parasite, and his body was finally compelled to use force to reject it.

re: #79 WindUpBird

Katrina was worse.

HIGHLY incomparable.

re: #81 brandon13

They're really incomparable.

They are not at all comparable, but when we're talking about "worst things on our soil", a mass murder is one thing, an apocalyptic natural disaster that has about ruined an entire major city is on a whole different level.

re: #83 TheMatrix31

HIGHLY incomparable.

You made the statement. Feel free to retract it.

re: #85 WindUpBird

Or instead, qualify it with "worst mass murder" or "worst shooting" or "worst *blank*". Or even worst terrorist attack sicne 9/11, even though I don't believe the facts are in to prove that this was premeditated terror and not a guy gone crazy VA Tech style.

It is a national tragedy. But I sense it becoming a political crucible to be filled up with whatever people wish it to be. But the left, and by the right. By bigots and racists, and by gun control nuts and cable news.

re: #86 WindUpBird

I'm pretty sure it was damn clear what I meant.

re: #84 WindUpBird

And New Yorkers only had to worry about a 'hole in the ground' on 9/11, according to Ray Nagin...

re: #87 soxfan4life

Tough guy threats on the internet are pathetic and pointless.

And if Islam as a religion is a threat to the US, then all Islamic men and women should be deported, yes? They are threats, yes?

Or is this hyperbole in the aftermath of a tragedy, that you are unable to back up?

The media sh*t storm that followed Katrina is going to be a mild breeze compared to what is about to descend on us over the Fort Hood Incident: we have a live suspect who is going to be making statements, Glenn Beck is probably tugging at his IV tubes right now to get back on the air over it, and there are obviously a lot more things that are going to come out of the laundry over this.

And I am afraid that our much battered level of media investigation and presentation, as well as our current level of public discource are going to be help us to learn anything from it: it is all too nuacnced.

There is the matter of immigrants in America, Islam in the military, Islam in America, the US military in Afghanistan, Stress and PTSD among our overtaxed military, etc. etc.

They are all too intertwined in this case to allow the usual sort of bullet-pint bludgeoning that characterizes the American news media these days.

re: #88 TheMatrix31

I'm pretty sure it was damn clear what I meant.

No, I actually don't know what you meant, because you weren't clear.

re: #90 WindUpBird

Fuck off. Soxfan4life is AT Ft. Hood right NOW.

I see there have been a few bowls consumed this morning.

re: #93 TheMatrix31

Fuck off. Soxfan4life is AT Ft. Hood right NOW.

And that means nobody can respond to anything he says?

re: #24 SixDegrees

I just happen to think that a solid month of hearing Sammy Davis and Frank Sinatra compilations of Christmas carols bleated endlessly through cheap speakers is more than enough. Now we're extending that Hell on earth to two months - a full sixth of the year. It's as loathsome and terrifying as having Congress try to take over a sixth of the economy.

I agree that's why I can't wait to post this any longer:

re: #94 MandyManners

Hah, please tell me that jpeg only comes out in the early morning LGF sniping :D

(technically not morning here yet, I'm in Orygun and I work nights)

re: #91 ralphieboy

There is the matter of immigrants in America

In this situation? How? Hasan was born and raised here.

I think I might've stumbled across a possible solution to the housing crisis.

re: #98 MandyManners

In this situation? How? Hasan was born and raised here.

He was born overseas, just outside Jerusalem.

re: #95 WindUpBird

And that means nobody can respond to anything he says?

That means its not just a "tough guy threat". The guy is at the place where 13 soldiers were brutally MURDERED by a piece of shit motherfucker yesterday.

re: #99 Fenway_Nation

I think I might've stumbled across a possible solution to the housing crisis.

Awww. The cute factor is strong in that one.

re: #95 WindUpBird

And that means nobody can respond to anything he says?

Maybe you should quit while you're...not ahead.

re: #99 Fenway_Nation

That's adorable!

...

wait, did the puppy evict the bird?

re: #100 RogueOne

He was born overseas, just outside Jerusalem.

No, he was not. He was born in Virginia.

re: #104 WindUpBird

That's adorable!

...

wait, did the puppy evict the bird?

Yes...it was brutal. He then 'flipped' it and sold it to some migratory birds who use it as a summer place and made a cool $250,000...

re: #100 RogueOne

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

re: #101 TheMatrix31

That means its not just a "tough guy threat". The guy is at the place where 13 soldiers were brutally MURDERED by a piece of shit motherfucker yesterday.

Um, yes. And if you had actually read what he wrote, you would see that he threatened a guy on the internet who is most probably not in Fort Hood, with torture ala Pulp Fiction (directed by Quentin Tarantino)

So he cannot back it up. Because they are both anonymous people on a blog.

Unless he is In The Matrix, in which case he could probably prank phone call him and mess up his FICO store,

re: #105 MandyManners

His parents were from there. He was born and raised in the USA but put his nationality down as 'Palestinian' when he signed up for one of those Muslim matrimonial sites.

re: #105 MandyManners

That's what I had thought last night. I just heard Lester Holt say he was born outside Jerusalem. I'm rewinding to make sure I heard that correctly.

re: #106 Fenway_Nation

Yes...it was brutal. He then 'flipped' it and sold it to some migratory birds who use it as a summer place and made a cool $250,000...

Hopefully the migratory birds didn't get an adjustable rate mortgage!

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

re: #109 WindUpBird

My response was basically saying that you're trashing the guy when he's living ON THE SCENE.

re: #110 Fenway_Nation

His parents were from there. He was born and raised in the USA but put his nationality down as 'Palestinian' when he signed up for one of those Muslim matrimonial sites.

How is one's nationality "Palestinian"? It was not a nation.

re: #111 RogueOne

That's what I had thought last night. I just heard Lester Holt say he was born outside Jerusalem. I'm rewinding to make sure I heard that correctly.

I don't know who Lester Holt is but, he's wrong.

re: #110 Fenway_Nation

His parents were from there. He was born and raised in the USA but put his nationality down as 'Palestinian' when he signed up for one of those Muslim matrimonial sites.

This. I misheard what they were saying. My bad.

re: #109 WindUpBird

Oh noes...he made a Pulp Fiction allegory to a suspected mass murderer in custody (throwing out disclaimers like 'suspected' and 'alleged' even tho' I'm not sure what the UCMJ standards are on that).

Given that some lizards weren't even sure whether or not he was still alive a few hours ago, let alone his whereabouts...I'm not that worked up over it.

re: #116 MandyManners

I don't know who Lester Holt is but, he's wrong.

Lester Holt is an NBC anchor
[Link: today.msnbc.msn.com...]

re: #114 TheMatrix31

My response was basically saying that you're trashing the guy when he's living ON THE SCENE.

I understood you the first time. He's still threatening people.

re: #115 MandyManners

Apparently that's an option on one of those Muslim matrimonial sites.

re: #117 RogueOne

This. I misheard what they were saying. My bad.

And that is one of the many topics that is going to come up: someone who defines himself not by place of birth, but by the nationality of his parents, which all ties into the discussion of "immigrants in America".

re: #112 WindUpBird

Hopefully the migratory birds didn't get an adjustable rate mortgage!

Equally brutal.

re: #118 Fenway_Nation

Oh noes...he made a Pulp Fiction allegory to a suspected mass murderer in custody (throwing out disclaimers like 'suspected' and 'alleged' even tho' I'm not sure what the UCMJ standards are on that).

Given that some lizards weren't even sure whether or not he was still alive a few hours ago, let alone his whereabouts...I'm not that worked up over it.

Uh, what? I thought he was threatening Ralphieboy with the Pulp Fiction quote.

I'll read it again, but that's how I read it. Responding to Ralphie, saying he wanted to kick his ass in a colorful way for being liberal, or a sympathizer, or whatever.

re: #120 WindUpBird

Call DHS if you're that worked up about it,,,cripes.

re: #121 Fenway_Nation

Apparently that's an option on one of those Muslim matrimonial sites.

Well. There you go.

re: #119 RogueOne

Lester Holt is an NBC anchor
[Link: today.msnbc.msn.com...]

I only watch MSNBC to see the prison stories.

re: #126 MandyManners

Q: What's the difference between Santa's workshop and Palestine?

A: One is a made-up place that only gullible children think exist and the other...makes toys at the North Pole.

re: #125 Fenway_Nation

Call DHS if you're that worked up about it,,,cripes.

I read it as a threat against an LGF poster. Maybe I'm wrong and he's talking about the shooter.

re: #91 ralphieboy

Media reports here this morning don't sound like he will be making any kind of statement any time soon if at all. He is on a ventilator and unconscious. He killed 13 people in my "backyard". I work within a 1/4 mile radius of where the shooting occurred, sorry if I come harsh but I am pissed. Between him and the sergeant from Campbell that killed US soldiers with a grenade, who also was a Muslim convert, makes the looking at Muslims an issue while we are fighting wars against Muslim nations.

re: #129 WindUpBird

You did- he is.

re: #127 MandyManners

I watch a bit of Morning Joe while i get ready for work cuz I think he's funny. It's the only cable news I watch unless something like the election or last night is happening.

re: #128 Fenway_Nation

Q: What's the difference between Santa's workshop and Palestine?

A: One is a made-up place that only gullible children think exist and the other...makes toys at the North Pole.

Goshdarnit. Now I have coffee everywhere.

re: #130 soxfan4life

hell, I'll just ask you. Was the Pulp Fiction thing aimed at ralphie or the shooter?

re: #129 WindUpBird

I read it as a threat against an LGF poster. Maybe I'm wrong and he's talking about the shooter.

Just to make it clear to you, I was referring to Major Hassan.

re: #131 Fenway_Nation

You did- he is.

If you think so, I'll believe you, and retract anything regarding the threat.

re: #124 WindUpBird

Uh, what? I thought he was threatening Ralphieboy with the Pulp Fiction quote.

I'll read it again, but that's how I read it. Responding to Ralphie, saying he wanted to kick his ass in a colorful way for being liberal, or a sympathizer, or whatever.

"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them all to Christianity!"

-Ann Coulter

I was talking about the declining level of public discourse in this country and our inability to learn any lessons from our experiences because our ideological and religious blinders are so tight.

This fellow just confirmed my point, so I guess I should thank him.

With a big smile.

re: #135 soxfan4life

Just to make it clear to you, I was referring to Major Hassan.

Okay, fair enough, I apologize for believing otherwise.

re: #137 ralphieboy

eh, we are all raw and sort of freaked out at the moment. I'm trying not to dig myself in any deeper at this point. ;-)

Good Morning LGF.
Will the libs be blaming the victims for the crime today, or will they just blame America and the military in general?
BTW CNN just showed a convenience store surveillance video from yesterday morning showing the Islamofascist terrorist perp fuck shopping for food. I don't think the white brimless cap and the full-length white robes and pants outfit he was wearing was military garb.

re: #132 RogueOne

I watch a bit of Morning Joe while i get ready for work cuz I think he's funny. It's the only cable news I watch unless something like the election or last night is happening.

Thanks to Olberman and Matthews, MSNBC news stuff is not allowed on my television.

KOS called. They want their idiot back.

re: #139 WindUpBird

Just hunker down and get ready for the Force Five Media Hurricane that is going to hit us starting this weekend.

Thre will be no end of unsusbtantiated allegations, generalizations and inferences about motive and past behavior that will make you wish you were stranded in the Superdome without food or water...

This is a time of year when I, an American expat living in Europe, get homesick. The aspens are changing color in Northern Arizona, I have fond memories of football games, falling in love and campfires.

But this event has helped make me feel a bit less homesick now, and I fear that the upcoming days are going to make me glad I have a buffer zone between me and the US media environment.

re: #141 MandyManners

I don't blame you. Scarborough hates olbermann so much I'm betting not even he watches MSNBC after he's off the air.

re: #140 Spare O'Lake

Good Morning LGF.
Will the libs be blaming the victims for the crime today, or will they just blame America and the military in general?
BTW CNN just showed a convenience store surveillance video from yesterday morning showing the Islamofascist terrorist perp fuck shopping for food. I don't think the white brimless cap and the full-length white robes and pants outfit he was wearing was military garb.

WTF?

bbl

re: #146 RogueOne

Have a good day.

re: #143 ralphieboy

There is a marvelous invention to deal with the MFM. It's called the "OFF" button.

re: #143 ralphieboy

heh, where in Europe? I've visited, done the backpacking thing, but I can never leave Oregon for long. She always draws me back.

re: #142 MandyManners

KOS called. They want their idiot back.

I need to go make myself a cup of coffee so that I can spit it out on my monitor.

G'Mornin'!

Honest to goodness I cannot see how immigration fits into this discussion. He was NOT an immigrant. So what if his parents were immigrants? They didn't pull the trigger.

re: #140 Spare O'Lake

Good Morning LGF.
Will the libs be blaming the victims for the crime today, or will they just blame America and the military in general?
BTW CNN just showed a convenience store surveillance video from yesterday morning showing the Islamofascist terrorist perp fuck shopping for food. I don't think the white brimless cap and the full-length white robes and pants outfit he was wearing was military garb.

I can't find a link.

re: #137 ralphieboy

Proved what, exactly?

My radio said earlier that the shooter was going to Iraq and was gonna be involved in combat operations, not sitting in an office. Once again, take it with a grain of salt.

re: #140 Spare O'Lake

Good Morning LGF.
Will the libs be blaming the victims for the crime today, or will they just blame America and the military in general?
BTW CNN just showed a convenience store surveillance video from yesterday morning showing the Islamofascist terrorist perp fuck shopping for food. I don't think the white brimless cap and the full-length white robes and pants outfit he was wearing was military garb.

I wonder if he had done the ritual washing.

re: #140 Spare O'Lake

re: #152 MandyManners

Link to what? Libs blaming the dead?

Way ahead of you...

re: #154 Cannadian Club Akbar

My radio said earlier that the shooter was going to Iraq and was gonna be involved in combat operations, not sitting in an office. Once again, take it with a grain of salt.

After the very late and surprising revelation that the guy was even still alive, I'm taking every single thing that comes out of my television, radio or computer about this thing with a boxcar full of salt.

re: #156 Fenway_Nation

re: #152 MandyManners

Link to what? Libs blaming the dead?

Way ahead of you...

No. That he was wearing white robes.

re: #152 MandyManners

Here ya go

re: #156 Fenway_Nation

You shouldn't read Kos comments. They'll give you the trots. ;-)

(seriously, the comments there give me hives, and I'm supposed to be liberal)

re: #156 Fenway_Nation

re: #152 MandyManners

Link to what? Libs blaming the dead?

Way ahead of you...

olo: Maybe they just put the gun in his hand because be looks like a brown terror monger, is named Hasan (sounds & looks similar to Hussein) — and was the most convenient of the dozen bodies to blame this shit on.)

*sigh*

re: #157 WindUpBird

re: #160 WindUpBird

Salt's usually shipped in hopper cars.

/not sure what kind of freight car sufficent quantites of immodium AD would be shipped in.

I remember the moment where I drew back from the screen in disgust and horror at a KOS comment. It was when one of them went on a tirade about video games and how any video game where you shoot people should be banned as obscene, and how it's a tool of military this that psy ops etc etc...

After that it was all downhill ;-)

re: #159 TheMatrix31

Here ya go

According to the reporter, this was not unusual.

re: #145 MandyManners

WTF?

I find it interesting that he was decked out in one of those fundie Muslim Imam outfits. They keep showing it on CNN TV every few minutes.

re: #162 Fenway_Nation

re: #160 WindUpBird

Salt's usually shipped in hopper cars.

/not sure what kind of freight car sufficent quantites of immodium AD would be shipped in.

You had a train set as a kid, didn't you?

re: #159 TheMatrix31

Here ya go

Thanks for the link.

re: #166 WindUpBird

Wel...it's not like I'm a BNSF shareholder or anything.

re: #165 Spare O'Lake

I find it interesting that he was decked out in one of those fundie Muslim Imam outfits. They keep showing it on CNN TV every few minutes.

See my No. 164. Does this have any bearing on what he did?

re: #165 Spare O'Lake

The cable news-produced narrative arc about this story just jumped a notch, regardless if this had any bearing on the relevant facts of the case.

re: #159 TheMatrix31

re: #167 MandyManners

Ugh...if some of the comments @ Kos are as bad as they are, I don't wanna touch the YouTube comments with a 20ft pole.

re: #168 Fenway_Nation

Addendum...that wasn't sarcasm or snark. I'm not or never was a shareholder for the Burlington Northern Santa Fe railway. Especially this week...

*sob!*

re: #171 Fenway_Nation

re: #167 MandyManners

Ugh...if some of the comments @ Kos are as bad as they are, I don't wanna touch the YouTube comments with a 20ft pole.

The link in No. 59 is a video of Hasan wearing white robes at a convenience store yesterday morning.

re: #173 MandyManners

The link in No. 59 is a video of Hasan wearing white robes at a convenience store yesterday morning.

159

re: #169 MandyManners

See my No. 164. Does this have any bearing on what he did?

I don't know. I suppose it might if this is what he wore when he committed the terror attack, or if it is evidence of his activities that morning or his state of mind.
One thing for sure - it will stoke the charges of Islamophobia against anyone who dares to wonder about his Palestinian Islamic background or ideology.

I almost hate to ask, but do you think the Palis are cheering and passing out sweets like they did on 9/11?

re: #175 Spare O'Lake

I don't know. I suppose it might if this is what he wore when he committed the terror attack, or if it is evidence of his activities that morning or his state of mind.
One thing for sure - it will stoke the charges of Islamophobia against anyone who dares to wonder about his Palestinian Islamic background or ideology.

Weren't the reports that somone in uniform was doing the shooting? If he had been wearing the white robes, I think we would have heard of it pretty early. As for his background, he's an American, born and bred here. If he chose to say he was "Palestinian" on that dating site, then he is the one who put it out there.

re: #176 Fenway_Nation

I almost hate to ask, but do you think the Palis are cheering and passing out sweets like they did on 9/11?

If so, I hope we hear about it.

re: #176 Fenway_Nation

I almost hate to ask, but do you think the Palis are cheering and passing out sweets like they did on 9/11?

I'm sure posters of him will be for sale soon. Sadly.

Press conference right now.

re: #180 MandyManners

WH or Ft Hood?

If that fucker was so concerned about PTSD, why did he inflict it on all those people yesterday?

re: #181 Fenway_Nation

WH or Ft Hood?

Latter.

All injured are in stable condition.

Bringing in more shrinks and clergy.

re: #182 MandyManners

Hadn't he never been deployed to combat before? Whereas some of the people he shot were getting ready for their 4th or 5th deployment..?

re: #186 Fenway_Nation

Hadn't he never been deployed to combat before? Whereas some of the people he shot were getting ready for their 4th or 5th deployment..?

I don't know about the victims but, from what I've read and heard, he'd never been deployed.

re: #186 Fenway_Nation

Hadn't he never been deployed to combat before? Whereas some of the people he shot were getting ready for their 4th or 5th deployment..?

Therefore in his PTSD, the "P" stands for "PRE-TSD... Which is why I ain't buying it.

The dead: one civilian and 12 soldiers.

I'm also guessing that a Psychiatrist/cologist wasn't going to see a lot of combat anyway. But, I wasn't military, so I'm not sure.

Do they put military psychiatrists in foxholes as a rule?

Morning. Here's something for albusteve's grandson; I caught his comment from last night about building the tyke a Strat. Would one of you fine folks direct him here if he arrives while I'm gone?

re: #68 Fenway_Nation

Downding away, but this is from a diary that was on the rec list. Let's put down the brush. And to be clear, I am NOT defending the assholes who wrote the original comments. I am extremely sick of dehumanizing whomever's on "the other side." There was speculation from everywhere. It's a fact of human nature that we try to rationalize things.

We are better than this. We are a reality-based community. We believe in facts and evidence and the rule of law.

We do not (or should not) post irresponsible "speculations" about who the shooter was or why he did what he did or what is happening tonight at Fort Hood. We certainly do not leap to conclusions about the motivations of someone who may have an ethnicity or religion different from many (though certainly not all) of us who write here.

Those comments I referred to should never have been posted in the first place. We are better than this. And amidst all the horrors of today, we should have been.

re: #190 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

See my #154

re: #190 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm also guessing that a Psychiatrist/cologist wasn't going to see a lot of combat anyway. But, I wasn't military, so I'm not sure.

Do they put military psychiatrists in foxholes as a rule?

It's mentioned earlier in this thread but, his deployment was to not be to a desk.

re: #137 ralphieboy

Ralphieboy? Ever had a comment deleted?

That one will go bye bye.

re: #194 MandyManners

Yeah...but given how unreliable some of the other info that came out in this case has been (he had multpiple accomplices, the police officer who shot him was dead, Hasan was dead etc etc...), how reliable do you think that piece of info was?

Whoa. He was to be deployed to Afghanistan.

re: #154 Cannadian Club Akbar

Thanks.

So, if that is true, he was not a very good psychiatrist/ologist...

re: #196 Fenway_Nation

Yeah...but given how unreliable some of the other info that came out in this case has been (he had multpiple accomplices, the police officer who shot him was dead, Hasan was dead etc etc...), how reliable do you think that piece of info was?

His CO just said he was to be deployed not to Iraq.

re: #198 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Thanks.

So, if that is true, he was not a very good psychiatrist/ologist...

Psychiatrist.

re: #199 MandyManners

His CO just said he was to be deployed not to Iraq.

But, to Afghanistan.

Morning Lizards. I have a friend who was on the Army base that got shot up yesterday. My thoughts and prayers to all the families and to the soldiers who are still alive and wounded, as well as on-base friends of the dead.

[Link: www.thedailybeast.com...] ... mainpromo5

Good interview with Dede Scozzafava -- who has voted with the state GOP leadership 95% of the time, has a 100% record with the NRA, and cosponsored legislation to block funding to ACORN.

A lesson for any Republican who dares to buck the party line on "babykillin" and "quayres."

He was wearing his uniform.

For the newcomers, a link to a video of Hassan's activities yesterday morning.

From TheMatrix.

re: #182 MandyManners

If that fucker was so concerned about PTSD, why did he inflict it on all those people yesterday?

Can't recommend that statement enough.

To think this happened in the one place those people should feel safe, as they were getting ready for a long and dangerous mission for freedom ... I want to scream.

re: #46 ralphieboy

. . .
First, they will need to wait for a seriously apologist leftist moonbat to imply that we brought this on ourselves for picking on the poor fellow for being Muslim (which is coming, if it is not out thre already) and then they will be in position to remind us that America did infact bring this on itself in that we elected a crypto-Muslim foreign-born America- and Army-hating president.

There are those of us who would not characterize the crazed idiot who did the shooting as being "the poor fellow", but would instead be focusing on those who are dead and injured by his hand.

re: #206 Soundboard Fez

Can't recommend that statement enough.

To think this happened in the one place those people should feel safe, as they were getting ready for a long and dangerous mission for freedom ... I want to scream.

I think he didn't give a shit about the soldiers.

re: #178 MandyManners

If so, I hope we hear about it.

The MSM would probably hide those photos in the "You Can't Handle The Truth" file.

re: #207 reine.de.tout

There are those of us who would not characterize the crazed idiot who did the shooting as being "the poor fellow", but would instead be focusing on those who are dead and injured by his hand.

You might want to employ GAZE on ralphieboy. I'm trying to after what he posted yesterday.

re: #208 MandyManners

I think he didn't give a shit about the soldiers.

That's pretty obvious.

And the long-term effects on morale could be devasting, that's what's crushing. If you're not even safe on a base in the United States anymore ... :(

re: #209 The Sanity Inspector

The MSM would probably hide those photos in the "You Can't Handle The Truth" file.

Fox'll carry it.

re: #210 MandyManners

You might want to employ GAZE on ralphieboy. I'm trying to after what he posted yesterday.

I don't know and I don't want to know, but given what's been going on in this thread so far, I can only imagine. And I'm not liking it.

re: #211 Soundboard Fez

That's pretty obvious.

And the long-term effects on morale could be devasting, that's what's crushing. If you're not even safe on a base in the United States anymore ... :(

Perhaps that was his point.

re: #213 thedopefishlives

I don't know and I don't want to know, but given what's been going on in this thread so far, I can only imagine. And I'm not liking it.

Check out my first Top 10 comment.

re: #207 reine.de.tout

Hi Toots. I think he was trying to be clever.

He quoted Ann Coulter's Muslim screed above... Stinky will stir...

re: #215 MandyManners

re: #216 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

He's been on quite a roll of offensive statements, it seems. (His post, to which your reply made the top 10, is still there.) I'm wondering if Stinky got lost in the backlog and hasn't had time to catch up yet.

re: #217 thedopefishlives

re: #216 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

He's been on quite a roll of offensive statements, it seems. (His post, to which your reply made the top 10, is still there.) I'm wondering if Stinky got lost in the backlog and hasn't had time to catch up yet.

All while bitching and moaning about the lack of civil discourse in contemporary American politics.

re: #217 thedopefishlives

Someone will open up a 55-gallon drum of whoop-ass on him.

OK ladies and germs...gotta jet

Good morning lizards. I am still shocked by yesterday's jihad attack on our soldiers.

re: #219 MandyManners

Someone will open up a 55-gallon drum of whoop-ass on him.

The grill is already heating and I'm about to oil the brush.

re: #222 thedopefishlives

The grill is already heating and I'm about to oil the brush.

Mabye the smell of the grill will cover up the smell of urine from earlier.

re: #221 NJDhockeyfan

Good morning lizards. I am still shocked by yesterday's jihad attack on our soldiers.

I imagine that this will occupy the news cycle for a few days and then fade away.

After all, heard the name Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad, lately?

I thought not.

This was a mass murder attack by an American who self-identified as a Palestinian on his fellow soldiers who had previously glorified suicide bombings and who was "mortified" to be deployed to fight his co-religionists, and who wore traditional religious clothing on the morning of the attack. His family has said that he had been harassed by his fellow soldiers for being a Muslim and that this had affected him.
Yet many will put on their blinkers and scream Islamophobia against anyone who dares to follow the evidence.

re: #210 MandyManners

You might want to employ GAZE on ralphieboy. I'm trying to after what he posted yesterday.

Yes, I probably should.
I just wanted to point out that his kindness and "understanding" toward the killer, and the characterization of the killer as "the poor guy", with no mention whatsoever of the heinous crime committed and the dead and wounded, was really really odd.

re: #224 razorbacker

I think they'll do everything they can to downplay how much his religious beliefs contributed to his decision to massacre his fellow soldiers.

Mornin' everyone.

A couple of days ago I went back to the gym for the first time in over a month. Now I haz a soreness. But I'm going back tonight.

if the Fort Hood killer was so upset about his upcoming deployment, he should have just fucking killed himself.

re: #225 Spare O'Lake

There is that, and then on the opposite end of the spectrum, there will be those (Spencer and Geller, are you paying attention?) who will declare that Muslims need to be purged because they're all obviously mass murderers in waiting/in disguise. Because, you know, it's absolutely impossible for any Muslim to act independently of the Hive Mind that makes them all spontaneously want to blow themselves up./

re: #228 Mad Al-Jaffee

Mornin' everyone.

A couple of days ago I went back to the gym for the first time in over a month. Now I haz a soreness. But I'm going back tonight.

It takes about 2-3 days to get over DOMS. Don't let it deter you.

I started lifting at the end of July after not exercising for 13 years, since I graduated from college. The first week was hell. Since then, I've put on 15 pounds of muscle.

I think you're the guy who recommended the Legendary Shackshakers yesterday. I bought 3 records on itunes. You rule.

re: #229 _RememberTonyC

if the Fort Hood killer was so upset about his upcoming deployment, he should have just fucking killed himself.

You get less virgins that way.

//

re: #225 Spare O'Lake

This was a mass murder attack by an American who self-identified as a Palestinian on his fellow soldiers who had previously glorified suicide bombings and who was "mortified" to be deployed to fight his co-religionists, and who wore traditional religious clothing on the morning of the attack. His family has said that he had been harassed by his fellow soldiers for being a Muslim and that this had affected him.
Yet many will put on their blinkers and scream Islamophobia against anyone who dares to follow the evidence.

What a poor fucking excuse. I was harassed in school by bullies because I was a new kid and never took them out with guns a blazin'. He had his education paid for by the military and went to a very good school for psychiatry all paid for by taxpayer money. He had a great life. So someone said something he didn't like? Fuck that. No excuse for killing all those people. I am sick and tired of people making excuses for mass murderers.

re: #226 reine.de.tout

Toots, that wasn't what he was doing. He was saying that the Right is looking for a reason to go postal over this, and will use such statements by a lefty as their reason for doing so...

Doesn't make him less of an ass, but that was why he said what he did.

re: #224 razorbacker

I imagine that this will occupy the news cycle for a few days and then fade away.

After all, heard the name Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad, lately?

I thought not.

He was mentioned here yesterday in a link to an article about yesterday.

re: #226 reine.de.tout

Yes, I probably should.
I just wanted to point out that his kindness and "understanding" toward the killer, and the characterization of the killer as "the poor guy", with no mention whatsoever of the heinous crime committed and the dead and wounded, was really really odd.

Mabye par for the course for ralphie.

re: #232 Mad Al-Jaffee

You get less virgins that way.

//

yeah, but since he survived, the only "deflowering" that will be associated with that pig will be his own.

re: #229 _RememberTonyC

if the Fort Hood killer was so upset about his upcoming deployment, he should have just fucking killed himself.

Or, refused and get court-martialed.

re: #234 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Toots, that wasn't what he was doing. He was saying that the Right is looking for a reason to go postal over this, and will use such statements by a lefty as their reason for doing so...

Doesn't make him less of an ass, but that was why he said what he did.

ah. gotcha.
Need more coffee, I guess.

JihadTV's .02

re: #231 Soundboard Fez

It takes about 2-3 days to get over DOMS. Don't let it deter you.

I started lifting at the end of July after not exercising for 13 years, since I graduated from college. The first week was hell. Since then, I've put on 15 pounds of muscle.

I think you're the guy who recommended the Legendary Shackshakers yesterday. I bought 3 records on itunes. You rule.

I like the soreness, because it means I got a good workout. I'm not lifting very heavily yet - mainly using machines, 2-3 sets per exercise. Even though I haven't been biking much in the last few weeks my cardio shape is still pretty good. I ran on the treadmill for about ten minutes and I wasn't breathing very hard when I finished.

Glad you like the Shack Shakers.

re: #238 MandyManners

Or, refused and get court-martialed.

My radio said he offered to pay back the Army for his training if they let him out. The Army said no.

re: #225 Spare O'Lake

This was a mass murder attack by an American who self-identified as a Palestinian on his fellow soldiers who had previously glorified suicide bombings and who was "mortified" to be deployed to fight his co-religionists, and who wore traditional religious clothing on the morning of the attack. His family has said that he had been harassed by his fellow soldiers for being a Muslim and that this had affected him.
Yet many will put on their blinkers and scream Islamophobia against anyone who dares to follow the evidence.

Didn't he claim harassment only after he was under investigation for his Internet posting and bitching IRL?

re: #238 MandyManners

Or, refused and get court-martialed.

absolutely ... but I guess this "poor fellow" was really a fucking homicidal monster.

re: #242 Cannadian Club Akbar

My radio said he offered to pay back the Army for his training if they let him out. The Army said no.

He tried to change the terms of the contract.

re: #244 _RememberTonyC

absolutely ... but I guess this "poor fellow" was really a fucking homicidal monster.

Pretty much sums it up for me.

Gotta' git.

re: #247 MandyManners

Later.

/also, good evening

re: #247 MandyManners

Gotta' git.

later MM

re: #241 Mad Al-Jaffee

I like the soreness, because it means I got a good workout. I'm not lifting very heavily yet - mainly using machines, 2-3 sets per exercise. Even though I haven't been biking much in the last few weeks my cardio shape is still pretty good. I ran on the treadmill for about ten minutes and I wasn't breathing very hard when I finished.

Glad you like the Shack Shakers.

I gradually moved from pin-based ISO's to plate-loaded lever ISO's and free weights. 3 sets of 10 reps per exercise, and 3-5 exercises per muscle group. I lift on Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday, Sunday. My splits are chest/triceps, legs/shoulders, and back/biceps. So whatever I work on Tuesday, I work twice that week.

I do 30 minutes of cardio on Wednesday and Friday, and 20 after lifing on the weekends.

The miracle is that after 13 years of sloth, I haven't missed a single day yet.

re: #239 reine.de.tout

It's okay. I can't believe I defended him. Not crazy 'bout teh boy.

re: #250 Soundboard Fez

I usually warm up with about ten minutes of cardio. At my little community center gym sometimes the treadmills are all taken when I get there. I'm going to start bringing a jump rope for when that happens.

Then I usually try to do upper body, arms, abs and lower back (I sometimes get really bad muscle-based lower back pain, and I'm trying to strengthen that.) I'm not doing a lot of leg stuff yet, but I'll get into that soon. Not trying to be a body builder, just trying to get stronger and stay that way.

When I was doing Krav Maga I got an amazing workout, 3 or more times a week, without weights. When I first started doing that, I was completely sore for about a week and a half, but that eventually went away.

re: #252 Mad Al-Jaffee

I do the abs Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday. They are a bit more resilient and need less rest.

The legs can still bring the pain after a few months of work. Squats and leg press are brutal.

Breaking business news: the latest unemployment report shows that the rate spiked to 10.2% in October.

Headlines, but no story yet, on CNN.

AP sources: Suicide eyed in Ky. census worker case.

Huh.

re: #254 SixDegrees

While the number of new claims have been going down for a while now (with the usual variations), the number or continuing unemployment claims have been steady or rising.

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area where millions of NYers are gathering in Lower Manhattan to celebrate the Yankee world series win. That's in stark contrast to the pallor hanging over Fort Hood, where 13 people were murdered yesterday and 31 others injured in a mass murder attack committed by an individual whom the LAT doesn't even see fit to include his religious background, inflammatory statements about jihad and suicide bombings, or anything else that might inform readers as to the nature of the attacks.

As it is, the reports from yesterday afternoon were largely incorrect; they're still disjointed, but this much we do know. Major Hasan is still alive; 13 others he shot are dead. He shouted Allahu Akbar and wore Muslim garb the morning of the attack which belies his Army records which say he had no religious preference. Media reports focusing on PTSD don't make sense since he never served overseas (but it is possible he was traumatized by all the stories he heard from soldiers returning from overseas and couldn't figure out how to process them - a remote possibility and one that should be stated as such in these reports rather than highlighted as a likely factor). His Army records are being pored over, and discrepancies are coming to light - such as how he was promoted despite the warning signs and why he'd accept promotion if he wasn't happy with the Army's overseas deployments?

There are still too many questions than answers. And the media isn't doing anyone any favors by burying key details because they might prove to be uncomfortable facts.

re: #256 freetoken

There are fewer new claims because the big employers have already cut to the bone and are trying to wring more productivity out of existing workforce before trying to cut more. The rate would likely be much higher once you factor in those who are discouraged workers - those who have given up looking for jobs.

Another thing to keep in mind is that unemployment rates vary across the nation and some areas are far harder hit than others.

I just want to apologize for my snarky post in the Fort Hood breaking news thread yesterday. I had just gotten done reading a whole bunch of the typical bashing, and as soon as I heard this, I remembered the immediate reaction here the last time a soldier was murdered.

I think I was just too early. I was properly spanked. I need to give myself a 24-hour rule for snark, too. :)

re: #258 lawhawk

There are fewer new claims because the big employers have already cut to the bone and are trying to wring more productivity out of existing workforce before trying to cut more. The rate would likely be much higher once you factor in those who are discouraged workers - those who have given up looking for jobs.

Another thing to keep in mind is that unemployment rates vary across the nation and some areas are far harder hit than others.

Correct on all counts. Productivity is at astronomical levels - far fewer people doing what work there is left to be done - and a sour job market keeping people out of the workforce beyond the expiration of unemployment benefits.

And in Detroit, the unemployment rate passed 30% weeks ago, and was still headed northward, while the state as a whole suffered under a 15% rate in September.

Maj Hasan benefitted so much from the military. He went to Virginia Tech under the ROTC program. He graduated from the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, MD and completed his residency at Walter Reed Army Medical Center (WRAMC) and was at WRAMC for 6 years. And this what he does to our military and our country! It seems to me that his religious belief came first before anything else. For god sake he's a physician! Ain't he suppose to save lives than take them. His Hippocratic Oath doesn't a thing to him as well as his Oath of Enlistment to defend our constitution. The main stream news media will probably find any reasons to justify his actions. He didn't want to deploy to Iraq or Afghanistan. As a physician, Maj Hasan would not have any direct combat in the field. He's a coward! If he didn't want to be in the military, he could have claim to be a Conscientious Objector or even better tell the Army that he is gay! I really feel for the victims' family. My prayers to them.