How does time break down
with no marker, things slow down.
A conference of the strange
and your family is deranged

I could tell you what I'm thinking
while we sit here drinking
but I'm not sure where to start

Here is an interesting article from NPR on the MSM and jumping to conclusions without all the facts.

The Bombastic Fog Engulfs Fort Hood

The opening line is great.

Expecting journalists not to speculate is like expecting chimps not to scratch themselves. It's our nature.

Wow! Turned on the tube and saw Dr. Pamela Gay talking about Astronomy..
She is one of my favorites.. She leads girl scout troops to study science..Grad of Harvard...And she is really cute ( too bad guys..She is married to a blues guitarist)
Check out her site with your kids
[Link: www.starstryder.com...]

re: #3 HoosierHoops

Wow! Turned on the tube and saw Dr. Pamela Gay talking about Astronomy..
She is one of my favorites.. She leads girl scout troops to study science..Grad of Harvard...And she is really cute ( too bad guys..She is married to a blues guitarist)
Check out her site with your kids
[Link: www.starstryder.com...]

She only does that to get a discount on the cookies
/

Stupid criminal post of the day.

British man provides photo for his own wanted poster

I liked it.

re: #6 Sharmuta

I liked it.

Checked my yahoo mail.. Thanks for that...I almost forgot my password..Check your mail..

re: #4 sattv4u2

She only does that to get a discount on the cookies
/

LOL
Don't make me come over there!
You working today?

re: #8 HoosierHoops

LOL
Don't make me come over there!
You working today?

Yup,,, 10 am till 10 pm (or beyond ,, depending)

re: #9 sattv4u2

Yup,,, 10 am till 10 pm (or beyond ,, depending)

I got back from shopping a while ago..Did Penn State win?

re: #7 HoosierHoops

Checked my yahoo mail.. Thanks for that...I almost forgot my password..Check your mail..

I replied to {you} twice.

another 'time' music thread...top this

re: #10 HoosierHoops

I got back from shopping a while ago..Did Penn State win?

Ohio St 10
Penn St 7
Just under 6 minutes left

(OSU just took the lead on a fg)

re: #13 sattv4u2

Ohio St 10
Penn St 7
Just under 6 minutes left

(OSU just took the lead on a fg)

dude! I didn't know it was still on..Scanning channels..Thanks!

re: #10 HoosierHoops

Couple of other "shockers", btw

Northwestern (17) beat #8 Iowa (10)

Navy (14) is beating Notre Dame (0) half way thru the 3rd

re: #15 sattv4u2

Couple of other "shockers", btw

Northwestern (17) beat #8 Iowa (10)

Navy (14) is beating Notre Dame (0) half way thru the 3rd

they beat U of M too...big whoop, but good for them!

Time is on My Side...Stones

Can any Comcast users tell me how to get Bit Torrent to work?

re: #15 sattv4u2

Couple of other "shockers", btw

Northwestern (17) beat #8 Iowa (10)

Navy (14) is beating Notre Dame (0) half way thru the 3rd

I don't like Notre Dame... I was adopted by a very strick Catholic family..
If I wigged around at mass they made me kneel on the Kitchen floor for an hour before lunch on Sundays...My dad makes Mel Gibson look like a wimp...
They thought I'd go to a Catholic College..LOL No fricking way...

Did the length and invariance of the intro really bug anyone else? Other than that I really like this. It's got that ELP/Yes era feel.

Steven Wilson, I want to steal your brain and gain all your gnarly talents.

Time, huh? How about 59 Minutes by Course of Empire:

Link to the story

IDF reveals footage of Francop raid

Link to the video

Times Loves a Hero...Little Feat

Did the length and invariance of the intro really bug anyone else? Other than that I really like this. It's got that ELP/Yes era feel.

kinda/sorta but I liked it

Interesting news from my husband, for anyone who was feeling bad for themselves about government interference in their lives. Apparently two giant Chinese government agencies are fighting at this very moment about whether World of Warcraft's new server provider is acceptable. The fate of WoW in China hangs in the balance.

re: #23 albusteve

Times Loves a Hero...Little Feat

[Video]kinda/sorta but I liked it

Same for me, I think we are going to see a bit more of this the next few years alas. Trance it is.

re: #19 HoosierHoops

I don't like Notre Dame... I was adopted by a very strick Catholic family..
If I wigged around at mass they made me kneel on the Kitchen floor for an hour before lunch on Sundays...My dad makes Mel Gibson look like a wimp...
They thought I'd go to a Catholic College..LOL No fricking way...

I have to hate Notre Dame...football is like that

re: #18 Killgore Trout

Can any Comcast users tell me how to get Bit Torrent to work?

Force protocol header encryption. I don't know if you're on a Mac, I use uTorrent, it's worked for me and I'm on Comcast. Here's how to encrypt traffic on torrents.

re: #24 SanFranciscoZionist

Interesting news from my husband, for anyone who was feeling bad for themselves about government interference in their lives. Apparently two giant Chinese government agencies are fighting at this very moment about whether World of Warcraft's new server provider is acceptable. The fate of WoW in China hangs in the balance.

It would be a huge blow to their economy. Half the Pharmers out there are in China.

re: #24 SanFranciscoZionist

Interesting news from my husband, for anyone who was feeling bad for themselves about government interference in their lives. Apparently two giant Chinese government agencies are fighting at this very moment about whether World of Warcraft's new server provider is acceptable. The fate of WoW in China hangs in the balance.

uh ho! Don't read my #19..
Hope today finds you well

re: #25 Thanos

Same for me, I think we are going to see a bit more of this the next few years alas. Trance it is.

it's got some polyrhythmic stuff going in and out...it aint Little Feat tho (masters of polyrhythms)

re: #24 SanFranciscoZionist

Interesting news from my husband, for anyone who was feeling bad for themselves about government interference in their lives. Apparently two giant Chinese government agencies are fighting at this very moment about whether World of Warcraft's new server provider is acceptable. The fate of WoW in China hangs in the balance.

Oh nooo. So many of my friends are all about the WoW, if they got cut off, I think their hearts would stop. Not me, though, I never got into any of the MMOs. Single-player old school RPGs for me, plz!

(I still need to buy Dragon Age. Argh, so many games)

I OBJECT!

re: #24 SanFranciscoZionist

Interesting news from my husband, for anyone who was feeling bad for themselves about government interference in their lives. Apparently two giant Chinese government agencies are fighting at this very moment about whether World of Warcraft's new server provider is acceptable. The fate of WoW in China hangs in the balance.

The gold farmers will rise up!

re: #18 Killgore Trout

Can any Comcast users tell me how to get Bit Torrent to work?

Got a whip?

re: #27 WindUpBird

Ah, thanks. I'm on pc. Maybe I'll try uTorrent. This torrent stuff is pretty damn technical.. They don't make it easy.

re: #30 albusteve

it's got some polyrhythmic stuff going in and out...it aint Little Feat tho (masters of polyrhythms)

They aren't they only masters. 8-) Meshuggah can really bust out some mindbending meters.

Meshuggah is what you get when you give Swedish robots instruments.

re: #35 Killgore Trout

Ah, thanks. I'm on pc. Maybe I'll try uTorrent. This torrent stuff is pretty damn technical.. They don't make it easy.

uTorrent is great because it's got an easy interface and a low footprint. And the instructions I linked to are step-by-step for uTorrent specifically, so it shouldn't be too hard to get it up and running.

re: #36 WindUpBird

They aren't they only masters. 8-) Meshuggah can really bust out some mindbending meters.

Meshuggah is what you get when you give Swedish robots instruments.

I'm not into that stuff...glammetalgrungecrap in giant arenas does nothing for me...it should all be outlawed

re: #34 MandyManners

Got a whip?

in bed

re: #30 albusteve

it's got some polyrhythmic stuff going in and out...it aint Little Feat tho (masters of polyrhythms)

You are so old school with music.. I still like ya..
*wink*
Have you heard Shaw-Blades Album 'influences' They remade all their favorite old music while growing up.. I think every song is better than the original..
They even did California Dreaming by the Mama's and Papa's that brings down the house...Every song is fantastic

re: #34 MandyManners

Got a whip?

re: #39 sattv4u2

in bed

Slightly off-topic:

Anyone wanting to file claims for damages arising from my habit of wearing spurs on waterbeds had better hurry up and get in on the class-action suit.

re: #31 WindUpBird

Oh nooo. So many of my friends are all about the WoW, if they got cut off, I think their hearts would stop. Not me, though, I never got into any of the MMOs. Single-player old school RPGs for me, plz!

(I still need to buy Dragon Age. Argh, so many games)

My husband is absolutely addicted. (Being out of work has not helped this.)

I recall there was a famous scandal in China a couple of years ago that was WoW related. Some guy accused a WoW player of seducing his wife online, and it turned very public and very ugly.

re: #32 Sharmuta

I OBJECT!

We object too, Sharm. What exactly are you objecting to?

re: #38 albusteve

I'm not into that stuff...glammetalgrungecrap in giant arenas does nothing for me...it should all be outlawed

There is nothing glam, grunge or arena about Meshuggah. They're an extreme underground prog/death metal band that likes to play in 23/16. ;-)

I'm working again today. Currently got this on my iTunes.

Ian Simmonds - Alvin's Blues

re: #44 WindUpBird

There is nothing glam, grunge or arena about Meshuggah. They're an extreme underground prog/death metal band that likes to play in 23/16. ;-)

Do you like system of the down?

re: #41 Guanxi88

Slightly off-topic:

Anyone wanting to file claims for damages arising from my habit of wearing spurs on waterbeds had better hurry up and get in on the class-action suit.

U r strainj.

re: #46 HoosierHoops

Do you like system of the down?

Now that it's getting chilly at night, I prefer comforter of the down!

re: #42 SanFranciscoZionist

My husband is absolutely addicted. (Being out of work has not helped this.)

I recall there was a famous scandal in China a couple of years ago that was WoW related. Some guy accused a WoW player of seducing his wife online, and it turned very public and very ugly.

Great thing about modern China is you have this grafting of high-tech onto an ancient culture. ALL disputes, when they turn public, turn very ugly very quickly. I recall many times seeing my Chinese employers go on a tear after someone. The really bad ones are when they go into the central courtyard - the place is laid out like one of the old Beijing hutong houses - and start berating the person in both English and Chinese, to make sure EVERYONE gets the full benefit of their spleen, and to maximize damage to character and reputation.

re: #47 MandyManners

U r strainj.

in bed

re: #44 WindUpBird

There is nothing glam, grunge or arena about Meshuggah. They're an extreme underground prog/death metal band that likes to play in 23/16. ;-)

Oh..there is no such thing as 23/16 time...That is just the drummer on speed that can't keep it in the pocket..
*running*

re: #47 MandyManners

U r strainj.

I know. Most people wouldn't go trolling for plaintiffs in a class action suit against themselves, but this one gives me bragging rights.

Anytime At All...Beatles...

re: #42 SanFranciscoZionist

My husband is absolutely addicted. (Being out of work has not helped this.)

I recall there was a famous scandal in China a couple of years ago that was WoW related. Some guy accused a WoW player of seducing his wife online, and it turned very public and very ugly.

Yow. I personally know couples who have split up over WoW. I remember reading about the Korean MMO Lineage, and its connections to Korean organized crime. There's also Chinese people that "goldfarm" in WoW for a living. Weird times.

re: #40 HoosierHoops

You are so old school with music.. I still like ya..
*wink*
Have you heard Shaw-Blades Album 'influences' They remade all their favorite old music while growing up.. I think every song is better than the original..
They even did California Dreaming by the Mama's and Papa's that brings down the house...Every song is fantastic

no, but I'll check 'em out

re: #44 WindUpBird

There is nothing glam, grunge or arena about Meshuggah. They're an extreme underground prog/death metal band that likes to play in 23/16. ;-)

I forgot to add prog/death/industrial...thanks

re: #46 HoosierHoops

Do you like system of the down?

I do! I'm not like their biggest fan, but I like them, and I like that a progressive metal band god mainstream airplay. Tremendous musicianship, really creative stuff. SoaD is one of my examples of the "kids' music" being really quite awesome, when I argue with my friends about the state of popular music.

(and no I will not get into it about Serj's political beliefs, heh)

re: #56 albusteve

I forgot to add prog/death/industrial...thanks

You know Porcupine Tree is a prog band, right? 9_9

re: #49 Guanxi88

Great thing about modern China is you have this grafting of high-tech onto an ancient culture. ALL disputes, when they turn public, turn very ugly very quickly. I recall many times seeing my Chinese employers go on a tear after someone. The really bad ones are when they go into the central courtyard - the place is laid out like one of the old Beijing hutong houses - and start berating the person in both English and Chinese, to make sure EVERYONE gets the full benefit of their spleen, and to maximize damage to character and reputation.

Apparently protestors showed up outside the seducers' parents apartment to do just that, with signs. The seducer's online name, BTW, was Bronze Mustache. The contested lady was Quiet Moon. Why I remember these things I do not know, except that "Bronze Mustache" struck me as extremely funny. I don't know how things turned out in the end, the Western press lost interest.

re: #54 WindUpBird

Yow. I personally know couples who have split up over WoW. I remember reading about the Korean MMO Lineage, and its connections to Korean organized crime. There's also Chinese people that "goldfarm" in WoW for a living. Weird times.

One of the many reasons I refuse to play is that I can hear my husband barking orders and insults at his guild members, and if he ever spoke to me like that there would be some PROBLEMS.

re: #58 WindUpBird

You know Porcupine Tree is a prog band, right? 9_9

I don't diss Charles' music unless he posts Barry Manilow...which is not entirely out of the realm of possibilities

re: #61 albusteve

I don't diss Charles' music unless he posts Barry Manilow...which is not entirely out of the realm of possibilities

I OBJECT!

re: #51 HoosierHoops

Oh..there is no such thing as 23/16 time...That is just the drummer on speed that can't keep it in the pocket..
*running*

What they generally do is the drums actually lock into a groove and the guitars play against the drums in different time signatures. It has this very maze-like quality when they do it. But Tomas Haake is considered to be one of the greatest metal drummers of all time. The guy is terrifying to behold.

re: #57 WindUpBird

I do! I'm not like their biggest fan, but I like them, and I like that a progressive metal band god mainstream airplay. Tremendous musicianship, really creative stuff. SoaD is one of my examples of the "kids' music" being really quite awesome, when I argue with my friends about the state of popular music.

(and no I will not get into it about Serj's political beliefs, heh)

It's funny..I like modern music...My son was in the Marines and listened to Peter Frampton on his iPod all the time...Loves him...
Kids..What do they know? My daughter thinks Led Zep is god..
The world is going to hell in a handbag...*wink*

re: #60 SanFranciscoZionist

One of the many reasons I refuse to play is that I can hear my husband barking orders and insults at his guild members, and if he ever spoke to me like that there would be some PROBLEMS.

It's very stressful when you're raiding. Think of it as like calling audibles in football. There's 40 people in some of those raids and they need to work in concert. That's mostly why I dont play WoW, gaming is more of a solitary, relaxing pursuit for me, I park in front of the HD late at night with a beer, I don't want the responsibility of being part of a team.

re: #62 Sharmuta

I OBJECT!

you are wasting this House's valuable time

re: #59 SanFranciscoZionist

Apparently protestors showed up outside the seducers' parents apartment to do just that, with signs. The seducer's online name, BTW, was Bronze Mustache. The contested lady was Quiet Moon. Why I remember these things I do not know, except that "Bronze Mustache" struck me as extremely funny. I don't know how things turned out in the end, the Western press lost interest.

The concept of "face" is subject to a great deal of exaggeration, and in recognizing that fact, many Westerners have sort of forgotten that it does exist, and is a real cultural currency still in China. In general, I've seen my Chinese coworkers and employers suffer in varying degrees of silence for ages from something until they reach that magic tipping point. Then, all bets are off.

you know it's about to start when the boss-ladys says "Why do you slap my face? I grew up eating rice!" which sounds odd but makes sense in the culture ("You can't treat me like a beast or a peasant - I ate rice like a regular, respectable person, and am due respect."). Then, all bets are off, and nothing short of an abject public apology can guarantee that the thing will end. Even then, if the damage is bad enough, they'll accept the apology, write an ambiguous letter of recommendation, and gently encourage the offending party to seek new and more expansive scopes for his or her many talents.

re: #66 albusteve

you are wasting this House's valuable time

I OBJECT!

re: #64 HoosierHoops

It's funny..I like modern music...My son was in the Marines and listened to Peter Frampton on his iPod all the time...Loves him...
Kids..What do they know? My daughter thinks Led Zep is god..
The world is going to hell in a handbag...*wink*

One of my students once turned to me and asked if I had heard of a band called Led Zeppelin. "Yes, hon," I said.

"They're AMAZING," she said, very solemnly. Look, if you were born in 1994...

re: #65 WindUpBird

It's very stressful when you're raiding. Think of it as like calling audibles in football. There's 40 people in some of those raids and they need to work in concert. That's mostly why I dont play WoW, gaming is more of a solitary, relaxing pursuit for me, I park in front of the HD late at night with a beer, I don't want the responsibility of being part of a team.

And let's not forget the legend of Leeroy Jenkins...

re: #64 HoosierHoops

It's funny..I like modern music...My son was in the Marines and listened to Peter Frampton on his iPod all the time...Loves him...
Kids..What do they know? My daughter thinks Led Zep is god..
The world is going to hell in a handbag...*wink*

I force fed my music to my kids, and they had their own stuff...needless to say their tastes soar way beyond their peers in scope...each of them has seen many cool gigs with me...they both love the blues and it's spinoffs

re: #70 JasonA

And let's not forget the legend of Leeroy Jenkins...

[Video]

Leroy Jenkins!

re: #64 HoosierHoops

It's funny..I like modern music...My son was in the Marines and listened to Peter Frampton on his iPod all the time...Loves him...
Kids..What do they know? My daughter thinks Led Zep is god..
The world is going to hell in a handbag...*wink*

Actually, I had a big conversation with my brother about that, how there's two bands that are unassailable, that kids in their teens who are into rock music generally respect. One is Zep, the other is Floyd. I have seen more skinny 14 year olds around my neighborhood with Floyd shirts over the last few years... hope for the future!

Personally, I'm into a lot of music that was created before I was born. The Beatles, The Stones, Blue Oyster Cult, Jefferson Airplane, Atomic Rooster, Hawkwind... and a lot of the newer bands I like now owe their sound to 60's psychedelic music. They heavy it up of course, but it's there.

re: #59 SanFranciscoZionist

Another interesting pattern i've noticed is the sharing of the outrage. If someone has offended you sufficiently in private, you make damned sure EVERYBODY hears about it, in loud, profane, and full detail, until they are themselves so outraged by it that they feel compelled to share the story of the injustice done to you with others. These spats, when they go critical, can sweep up whole departments where i work.

re: #70 JasonA

And let's not forget the legend of Leeroy Jenkins...

[Video]

MMMJENNNKINS

re: #54 WindUpBird

Actually had to Google goldfarming. Ran across this

World of Warcraft Gold Farming – The Seedy Underbelly of Online Gaming

From the article.

*snip*

"What might be a startling statistic. It’s estimated that nearly 1 million people in China are working for as little as $100 a month by farming gold for these places to sell to us lazy bastards in America and Europe."

re: #69 SanFranciscoZionist

One of my students once turned to me and asked if I had heard of a band called Led Zeppelin. "Yes, hon," I said.

"They're AMAZING," she said, very solemnly. Look, if you were born in 1994...

LOL Kids are amazing.. Last month my favorite band was the King of Leon but after their words going through my head 24/7 I'm going need somebody over and over.. I switched to Deathcab for Cutie.. I'm now over them looking for a new band to burn out on..

Repost from the wee hours of the morning, for those who were not awake and might like it:

If you want to actually see where all the money in the budget goes then this graphic is for you. You can make it full screen, zoom in, and navigate around it by dragging. It shows all the departments as graphic icons with their spending shown as smaller icons, all Icons are scaled by the amount spent. It is actually pretty enough and cool enough just to play with for awhile even if your not that into the budget.

2010 Budget: Death and Taxes

re: #73 WindUpBird

Actually, I had a big conversation with my brother about that, how there's two bands that are unassailable, that kids in their teens who are into rock music generally respect. One is Zep, the other is Floyd. I have seen more skinny 14 year olds around my neighborhood with Floyd shirts over the last few years... hope for the future!

Personally, I'm into a lot of music that was created before I was born. The Beatles, The Stones, Blue Oyster Cult, Jefferson Airplane, Atomic Rooster, Hawkwind... and a lot of the newer bands I like now owe their sound to 60's psychedelic music. They heavy it up of course, but it's there.

I taught for a couple of years at a middle school where there was an impassable split down the middle of the school about music. The white kids and the second-third-fourth-generation Asian and Latino kids listened to rock/indy. The black kids and the immigrant/first-generation Asian and Latino kids listened to hip-hop/R&B/reggaeton. We had the world's most amazing DJ for our dances, who would somehow make peace and manage to play some stuff all the kids liked.

He once informed the hip-hop crowd that if they would dance to the Green Day number, he would play some 50 Cent, but only if they danced. One of them went up to the stage. "What do you mean, how do you dance to rock?" I heard the DJ saying back. "You just dance! Move your arms around or something!"

He was also very good at dealing with kids from other schools who crashed our dances.

re: #69 SanFranciscoZionist

One of my students once turned to me and asked if I had heard of a band called Led Zeppelin. "Yes, hon," I said.

"They're AMAZING," she said, very solemnly. Look, if you were born in 1994...

I was in the drive-through getting coffee for self and cookies for the shareholders (kids) when I saw this kid - maybe 18 or 19 - absolutely rocking out to Tom Tom Club's Genius of Love.

"Tom Tom Club, eh?" I said.

"That who this is? Love the retro on this one. They got an album out now?"

"Not for the past 25 years."

re: #74 Guanxi88

Another interesting pattern i've noticed is the sharing of the outrage. If someone has offended you sufficiently in private, you make damned sure EVERYBODY hears about it, in loud, profane, and full detail, until they are themselves so outraged by it that they feel compelled to share the story of the injustice done to you with others. These spats, when they go critical, can sweep up whole departments where i work.

I went to a mostly Chinese/Chinese-American high school. For some reason this sounds awful familiar...

re: #71 albusteve

I force fed my music to my kids, and they had their own stuff...needless to say their tastes soar way beyond their peers in scope...each of them has seen many cool gigs with me...they both love the blues and it's spinoffs

You are a good dad.. My pops would only allow Chet Atkens to be played at our house...People go..Isn't Chet just amazing?
I hate Chet Atkins! I have heard every freaking song he ever played a million times...over and over and over...:)
/When I took guitar lessons my dad would say..You really need to learn how to play Chet Atkins.. I'm thinking..Now I know why the Who busted up their guitars..

Whenever I see the words "time flies" I think of bluebottles on a corpse.

Similarities:
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re: #82 HoosierHoops

You are a good dad.. My pops would only allow Chet Atkens to be played at our house...People go..Isn't Chet just amazing?
I hate Chet Atkins! I have heard every freaking song he ever played a million times...over and over and over...:)
/When I took guitar lessons my dad would say..You really need to learn how to play Chet Atkins.. I'm thinking..Now I know why the Who busted up their guitars..

playing like Atkins would not really be a bad thing...he guest stared with the Kalamazoo Symphony (where my mom played fiddle) when I was maybe 16...he was not especially nice to me, but he did shake my hand only because I held it out, like a gentleman...he's good but he's no Kieth Richards

re: #81 SanFranciscoZionist

I went to a mostly Chinese/Chinese-American high school. For some reason this sounds awful familiar...

Recollect the time the accounting department here went to war with the physical plant division. Seems that some one in accounting spread a rumor to the effect that the nephew of one of the owners had slapped his girlfriend. Well, the accounting department was headed up by the girlfriend's aunt, who, when she heard the rumor, went to the leadership to get justice (what that was, and how it was to happen, no one knew, but they trusted that the boss lady would sort this out). Well, boss lady said she'd have to see if there was any confirmation for it, and so dragged the girl in for questioning. Girl denied it, which only confirmed that the boyfriend must have been a real brute, to scare her into silence. Boss lady calls in the boyfriend, over in physical plant, who also denied it, and who got the girlfriend to repeat her denials. Girlfriend bursts into tears and leaves the room, confirming accounting's worst fears for her.

Meantime, physical plant's honcho realizes his guy's missing and wants an explanation. Hunts him down, finds him, and then berates the girlfriend's niece in front of the boss lady for letting stupid rumors interfere with the harmony and slow down the work.

Before it was all over, accounting was hot in the summer, cold in the winter, had peeling paint, lousy phone service, and broken locks, and physical plant had delayed payments on invoices, late or short payroll, and daily screaming matches until the whole thing was settled. The girlfriend told her aunt that nothing had happened, the boyfriend apologized for allowing his reputation to be so damaged as to make the story plausible, and the boss lady threatened to fire the next imbecile who dragged her into a domestic drama.

re: #79 SanFranciscoZionist

I taught for a couple of years at a middle school where there was an impassable split down the middle of the school about music. The white kids and the second-third-fourth-generation Asian and Latino kids listened to rock/indy. The black kids and the immigrant/first-generation Asian and Latino kids listened to hip-hop/R&B/reggaeton. We had the world's most amazing DJ for our dances, who would somehow make peace and manage to play some stuff all the kids liked.

He once informed the hip-hop crowd that if they would dance to the Green Day number, he would play some 50 Cent, but only if they danced. One of them went up to the stage. "What do you mean, how do you dance to rock?" I heard the DJ saying back. "You just dance! Move your arms around or something!"

He was also very good at dealing with kids from other schools who crashed our dances.

I'm jealous! Our dances in school were always crap, all that ever got played was top-40 generic pop/dance stuff. I'm not averse to hip-hop, though I'm picky about what I listen to. Wu-Tang/RZA I love, I like some Common, Outkast, Busta Rhymes, there's a very strange and aggressive industrial hip hop duo called Dalek I really like. Whatever rap music I like, it has to be smart. 8-)

re: #85 albusteve

playing like Atkins would not really be a bad thing...he guest stared with the Kalamazoo Symphony (where my mom played fiddle) when I was maybe 16...he was not especially nice to me, but he did shake my hand only because I held it out, like a gentleman...he's good but he's no Kieth Richards

At the very least we can agree that Keith Richards is one of the greatest rhythm guitarists who has ever lived. 8-)

re: #87 ynahmias

Yeah ,, because Charles/ LGF has NEVER had threads about Iran!

Hooray! I finally figured out uTorrent. I figured it out the old fashioned way; I mashed buttons and changed settings randomly until something worked.
/I'm so proud of myself

The Difference Between an Arab and A Jewish Terrorist, per Dr. Aaron Lerner:

Yaakov Teitel will have his day in Israeli court and, if convicted, spend a good part of the remainder of his life behind bars.

Prime Minister Netanyahu isn't asking for Jewish terrorist Yaakov Teitel to be freed.

There are no Israeli security forces planning to capture Palestinians to
trade for Yaakov Teitel's release.

The Israeli school system isn't teaching that Yaakov Teitel is a hero.

No summer camp sponsored by a leading Israeli political party is going to be named after Yaakov Teitel.

Yaakov Teitel's family isn't going to get a monthly stipend from the
Government of Israel as a sign of thanks for his actions.

SFZ adds: Damn Skippy.

re: #95 MandyManners

What's on your blog?

On mine I'm mostly talking about the gang rape in Richmond, these days. I do not feel Charles needs to post anything on it, however.

re: #90 WindUpBird

At the very least we can agree that Keith Richards is one of the greatest rhythm guitarists who has ever lived. 8-)

yes, but there is way more to his playing than that...he's a very peculiar guy in that he refuses to play many notes in his lead riffs and that leaves them sparse and shallow sounding...he simply does not want to play solos even tho he does...he is a master of rhythm riffs and fillers and a super accomplished flat top player...within the band he is obsessed with the dynamic between himself his lead player...he invented the 'weaving guitar' thing, which is their signature sound...his sense of rhythm and timing is almost superhuman...that's why he is held in such high regard by other pickers...Clapton cannot do what Richards can...etc

re: #87 ynahmias

See my #22. And friendly word of advice. If you want to keep your account, don't try to tell Charles what to post.

Well, well...Lookie what we have here...
Fort Hood shooting: Texas army killer linked to September 11 terrorists

Hasan, the sole suspect in the massacre of 13 fellow US soldiers in Texas, attended the controversial Dar al-Hijrah mosque in Great Falls, Virginia, in 2001 at the same time as two of the September 11 terrorists, The Sunday Telegraph has learnt. His mother's funeral was held there in May that year.

The preacher at the time was Anwar al-Awlaki, an American-born Yemeni scholar who was banned from addressing a meeting in London by video link in August because he is accused of supporting attacks on British troops and backing terrorist organisations.
...
As investigators look at Hasan's motives and mindset, his attendance at the mosque could be an important piece of the jigsaw. Al-Awlaki moved to Dar al-Hijrah as imam in January, 2001, from the west coast, and three months later the September 11 hijackers Nawaf al-Hamzi and Hani Hanjour began attending his services. A third hijacker attended his services in California.

Hasan was praying at Dar al-Hijrah at about the same time, and the FBI will now want to investigate whether he met the two terrorists.

re: #97 SanFranciscoZionist

On mine I'm mostly talking about the gang rape in Richmond, these days. I do not feel Charles needs to post anything on it, however.

Yeah, I can't get my head around it.

re: #100 Killgore Trout

Color me shocked, shocked I tell ya...
/

re: #100 Killgore Trout

Well, well...Lookie what we have here...
Fort Hood shooting: Texas army killer linked to September 11 terrorists

How very odd. this suggests that his radicalization might have been an extremely long-term affair. I doubt he knew them other than as fellow worshippers at a mosque whose imam has attracted some attention, but still, how very odd.

re: #100 Killgore Trout

Well, well...Lookie what we have here...
Fort Hood shooting: Texas army killer linked to September 11 terrorists

Oh, me.

re: #100 Killgore Trout

Well, well...Lookie what we have here...
Fort Hood shooting: Texas army killer linked to September 11 terrorists

shocka?...not

now... now... let's not jump to any conclusions...

re: #98 albusteve

The negative space in between the notes being as important as the notes and so forth. All I know is I can conjure up a dozen Stones riffs and hum them off the top of my head, and I don't even listen to the Stones THAT regularly. It's like he's got a direct channel to the essence of rock guitar.

re: #97 SanFranciscoZionist

On mine I'm mostly talking about the gang rape in Richmond, these days. I do not feel Charles needs to post anything on it, however.

You have a blog? Cool...You need a guy that grew up in Napa posting there you let me know...
/I promise not to say anything about Saint Johns.. *wink*

re: #100 Killgore Trout

Yikes! Looks like my "crazy-guy-who-snapped-and-dressed-up-his-crazy-i n-teh-Islam" theory is taking on water.

re: #106 WindHorse

We leave that up to our President.

re: #100 Killgore Trout

I think the "24 hour rule" may have officially ended

I was of the opinion hat just because his name/ religion were what they were, it may not have been what it could be

I think it's now safe to say we have a Islamic Terror attack

(and Janet Napolitano, with all due respect, ,,, it's not a "man caused disaster")

re: #100 Killgore Trout

Well, well...Lookie what we have here...
Fort Hood shooting: Texas army killer linked to September 11 terrorists

Huh. Interesting.

re: #101 MandyManners

Yeah, I can't get my head around it.

We're having an assembly at the school I teach at, Wednesday.

re: #108 HoosierHoops

You have a blog? Cool...You need a guy that grew up in Napa posting there you let me know...
/I promise not to say anything about Saint Johns.. *wink*

www.blogspot.balabustabluejeans.com

re: #109 WindUpBird

Yikes! Looks like my "crazy-guy-who-snapped-and-dressed-up-his-crazy-i n-teh-Islam" theory is taking on water.

Not necessarily. Crazy guys can also be radicalized.

re: #97 SanFranciscoZionist

On mine I'm mostly talking about the gang rape in Richmond, these days. I do not feel Charles needs to post anything on it, however.

On my blog (livejournal, actually) I am talking about...video games, karaoke, fictional cartoon heavy metal bands, the immunity of prosecutors from lawsuits even when they frame people outright, and Pat Boone. I'm a little scattered.

re: #107 WindUpBird

The negative space in between the notes being as important as the notes and so forth. All I know is I can conjure up a dozen Stones riffs and hum them off the top of my head, and I don't even listen to the Stones THAT regularly. It's like he's got a direct channel to the essence of rock guitar.

his thing is that you need to get out the sound with as few notes as possible...of course fans are into shredding and gadgets and the like...even Mick Taylors/Ronnie Woods most notable lead riffs are somewhat resreved by other bands' standards...the Stones are much tighter than people think...they sound too loose sometimes but that's how they want it...it's the style of attack and the taste of their playing...they are a live gig at heart and if they had their way they would only play small clubs...they do these gigantic shows all across the world because they feel they owe it to their fans...I digress

re: #114 SanFranciscoZionist

www.blogspot.balabustabluejeans.com

nope.typo..It didn't go anywhere

re: #100 Killgore Trout

Well, well...Lookie what we have here...
Fort Hood shooting: Texas army killer linked to September 11 terrorists

This guy was a loner, didn't feel as if he "fit in" - the odd man out, and it's been my experience, people who feel this way as adults usually felt that way as kids, too. As an adult, he seems to have gotten in touch with his "Muslim-ness", and when he snapped, used that to justify to himself his actions.

"Sudden jihad syndrome"? Beginning to look like it. But his actions were not done as a part of any contact with any sort of organized group, do you think?

Ah I love Porcupine Tree, my fav album is In Absentia

re: #111 sattv4u2

I think the "24 hour rule" may have officially ended

I was of the opinion hat just because his name/ religion were what they were, it may not have been what it could be

I think it's now safe to say we have a Islamic Terror attack

(and Janet Napolitano, with all due respect, ,,, it's not a "man caused disaster")

I think you are right, although it is still not clear to me whether is the act of a man plugged into a jihadi network, a single radicalized jihadi acting solo, or a psycho who, when he snapped, snapped in the direction his religious ideas inclined him.

The accusations that Mayor Sheila Dixon used holiday gift cards for the needy during personal shopping sprees may sound like a minor embarrassment at worst, a small-time case of a politician enjoying the perks of power.

For Dixon, the stakes could not be higher.

Dixon, 55, will put her political future in the hands of a jury Monday, when her trial on theft charges begins. She's accused of asking wealthy developer pals to donate gift cards worth thousands of dollars, saying they would be given to poor families — then using them to buy electronics at Best Buy, clothes at Old Navy and knickknacks at Target. If convicted, she would be tossed out of office.

SNIP

re: #122 SanFranciscoZionist

I think you are right, although it is still not clear to me whether is the act of a man plugged into a jihadi network, a single radicalized jihadi acting solo, or a psycho who, when he snapped, snapped in the direction his religious ideas inclined him.

I'm leaning toward the "snapped in the direction his religious ideas inclined him".

re: #118 HoosierHoops

nope.typo..It didn't go anywhere

Sorry, wrong way round. [Link: www.balabustabluejeans.blogspot.com...]

re: #123 MandyManners

The accusations that Mayor Sheila Dixon used holiday gift cards for the needy during personal shopping sprees may sound like a minor embarrassment at worst, a small-time case of a politician enjoying the perks of power.

SNIP

Revolting and appalling.

Has youtube been painfully slow for anyone else, despite connection speed?

re: #122 SanFranciscoZionist

I think you are right, although it is still not clear to me whether is the act of a man plugged into a jihadi network, a single radicalized jihadi acting solo, or a psycho who, when he snapped, snapped in the direction his religious ideas inclined him.

re: #124 reine.de.tout

I'm leaning toward the "snapped in the direction his religious ideas inclined him".

I'll add that while he was the one who jumped, he'd been nudged toward the ledge by the company he kept, if the mosque report is true.

re: #125 SanFranciscoZionist

Sorry, wrong way round. [Link: www.balabustabluejeans.blogspot.com...]

That worked...Nice blog...I'll be a visitor

re: #124 reine.de.tout

I'm leaning toward the "snapped in the direction his religious ideas inclined him".

well put...he may never have acted out, who's to say?...but he did and the reason and results were predictable imo

hear that?(quack-quack-quack...)

see that? (waddle-waddle-waddle...)

yep... it's a duck.

re: #115 SanFranciscoZionist

Not necessarily. Crazy guys can also be radicalized.

Truetrue. I guess what we still don't know is the order of operations, to go all mathgeek. Where did the crazy start? Was he crazy and then radicalized? Was he radicalized before and went over the edge? I definitely still think he's mentally ill, anyone who doesn't at least allow for the possibility of that is politically blinding themselves.

One thing I do not understand, is if he were planning a rampage, why hire a lawyer and go through all kinds of tedious legal channels to get his deployment reversed?

A South Carolina man caught on video having sex with a horse was sentenced Wednesday to three years in prison after pleading guilty for the second time in two years to abusing the creature.

Rodell Vereen was also ordered never to go near the stable where the horse's owner caught him and held him for authorities at shotgun point over the summer. He apologized to the woman and to himself after admitting to buggery at the Horry County courthouse.

SNIP

re: #132 WindUpBird

One thing I do not understand, is if he were planning a rampage, why hire a lawyer and go through all kinds of tedious legal channels to get his deployment reversed?

People make many sets of plans that run concurrently. Me, I'm taking extra training to enhance my skills at my primary job, which I don't like, while putting in extra hours at the job I hate to get in good with some of the leadership over there, so that my MBA in-progress will have some high-power backing when and if I go job-hunting, which I'm doing now in three states. Multiple plans, all toward the same goal, all with different paths.

re: #123 MandyManners

The accusations that Mayor Sheila Dixon used holiday gift cards for the needy during personal shopping sprees may sound like a minor embarrassment at worst, a small-time case of a politician enjoying the perks of power.

SNIP

Gawd. The term "skank" isn't quite accurate, but it nonetheless seems to perfectly describe this [tactful omission of a word beginning with 'c'].

re: #132 WindUpBird

Truetrue. I guess what we still don't know is the order of operations, to go all mathgeek. Where did the crazy start? Was he crazy and then radicalized? Was he radicalized before and went over the edge? I definitely still think he's mentally ill, anyone who doesn't at least allow for the possibility of that is politically blinding themselves.

One thing I do not understand, is if he were planning a rampage, why hire a lawyer and go through all kinds of tedious legal channels to get his deployment reversed?

I'm not gonna argue the 'motive' angle all over again, if your baiting me

re: #133 MandyManners

A South Carolina man caught on video having sex with a horse was sentenced Wednesday to three years in prison after pleading guilty for the second time in two years to abusing the creature.

SNIP

I could have gone all day without knowing that, and been perfectly happy.

re: #135 SixDegrees

Gawd. The term "skank" isn't quite accurate, but it nonetheless seems to perfectly describe this [tactful omission of a word beginning with 'c'].

Sadly not uncommon in local government. Power corrupts.

re: #136 albusteve

I'm not gonna argue the 'motive' angle all over again, if your baiting me

speculation on motive is pointless, in some ways. What was going through his mind, even if knowable to us, would be useless to us, as we don't think like he does. It's easier to analyze the external affects and actions and try to develop and analyze a pattern of activities than it is to try to figure out "why" anyone does anything.

re: #128 Guanxi88

I'll add that while he was the one who jumped, he'd been nudged toward the ledge by the company he kept, if the mosque report is true.

From everything I've read about this guy - feeling persecuted, feeling like he "didn't fit in", his inability to connect with women - I suspect he may have snapped sooner or later anyhow. The company he kept gave him a way to justify his actions.

re: #129 HoosierHoops

That worked...Nice blog...I'll be a visitor

Thank you!

re: #88 WindUpBird

I'm jealous! Our dances in school were always crap, all that ever got played was top-40 generic pop/dance stuff.

We got Stevie Wonder. Of course that was in 1968 and he was still a kid. We had Styx in 1970 thereabouts. Fun times.

re: #138 Pepper Fox

Sadly not uncommon in local government. Power corrupts.

She was corrupt before she was elected mayor.

When she became City Council president in 1999, an ethics commission advised her to step down from her part-time state government job, saying it raised potential conflicts of interest. Dixon declined, keeping the second job for more than two years.

re: #136 albusteve

I'm not gonna argue the 'motive' angle all over again, if your baiting me

I'm not baiting you, honest. Not intending to argue at all. I'm going to a housewarming party in about ten minutes (with belgian beer, yum) so I wouldn't even have time to bait you ;-) Just thinking out loud.

I don't know about you, but every psychiatrist I have ever met has been insane...

(just kidding)

re: #139 Guanxi88

speculation on motive is pointless, in some ways. What was going through his mind, even if knowable to us, would be useless to us, as we don't think like he does. It's easier to analyze the external affects and actions and try to develop and analyze a pattern of activities than it is to try to figure out "why" anyone does anything.

agreed...ask him what his motive was, maybe he'll give an honest answer, otherwise so what?...I would be happy to move on to the punishment stage of this whole affair

re: #140 reine.de.tout

From everything I've read about this guy - feeling persecuted, feeling like he "didn't fit in", his inability to connect with women - I suspect he may have snapped sooner or later anyhow. The company he kept gave him a way to justify his actions.

Exactly - they nudged him toward the edge, but he himself was tending that way on his own. Whether he would have jumped on his own or not, we can never know. Patterns are all we can look for, not causation.

re: #133 MandyManners

A South Carolina man caught on video having sex with a horse was sentenced Wednesday to three years in prison after pleading guilty for the second time in two years to abusing the creature.

SNIP

we should send this to him in the joint, just to torture him ...

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

re: #149 _RememberTonyC

we should send this to him in the joint, just to torture him ...

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

U r strainj.

re: #124 reine.de.tout

I'm leaning toward the "snapped in the direction his religious ideas inclined him".

Not at all clear yet. Compare and contrast with the guy who also snapped in Florida and shot up his old workplace. At the moment, although little is known about either case, there seem to be close parallels emerging. Although religion isn't one of them at this point.

In a very unusual outcome, both happen to still be alive - and therefore available for questioning and examination to shed light on their underlying motivations. So in these two cases, we'll get a rare glimpse into the actual reasons behind their actions.

But not for a while.

re: #140 reine.de.tout

From everything I've read about this guy - feeling persecuted, feeling like he "didn't fit in", his inability to connect with women - I suspect he may have snapped sooner or later anyhow. The company he kept gave him a way to justify his actions.

I wonder if, had be been a Presbyterian, he'd have been one those guys who shoots a bunch of women and leaves a rambling note babbling about how he can't get laid.

re: #142 allegro

We got Stevie Wonder. Of course that was in 1968 and he was still a kid. We had Styx in 1970 thereabouts. Fun times.

I love me some Styx! Always loved Styx. The way I describe the band Muse to my friends who are older than me, is this: It's like three kids in England discovered a box of Styx records in a basement and decided right then to form a band. :D

(also, Stevie rules)

re: #150 MandyManners

U r strainj.

but somehow ... oddly appealing ... go figure :)

re: #139 Guanxi88

speculation on motive is pointless, in some ways. What was going through his mind, even if knowable to us, would be useless to us, as we don't think like he does. It's easier to analyze the external affects and actions and try to develop and analyze a pattern of activities than it is to try to figure out "why" anyone does anything.

See my #2 for a NPR article on speculation. Is actually, in my opinion quite succinct concerning this event.

re: #152 SanFranciscoZionist

hey man... us Presbyterians are sensitive you know...

re: #147 albusteve

agreed...ask him what his motive was, maybe he'll give an honest answer, otherwise so what?...I would be happy to move on to the punishment stage of this whole affair

Fine, but the more we know about how these things work, the better we'll be at heading them off.

re: #145 WindHorse

I don't know about you, but every psychiatrist I have ever met has been insane...

I OBJECT!

re: #151 SixDegrees

Not at all clear yet. Compare and contrast with the guy who also snapped in Florida and shot up his old workplace. At the moment, although little is known about either case, there seem to be close parallels emerging. Although religion isn't one of them at this point.

In a very unusual outcome, both happen to still be alive - and therefore available for questioning and examination to shed light on their underlying motivations. So in these two cases, we'll get a rare glimpse into the actual reasons behind their actions.

But not for a while.

Hubby and I were in the car when we heard the news about the Florida event. Hubby remarked that we're going to see more of this, people are out of work, in financial difficulties . . . then a report came out that the guy in Florida had been out of work for 2 years, didn't have enough money to even visit his son who lives 30 minutes away . . . and the place he shot up was his former employer.

I hope we don't see more of this . . . but I'm afraid we will.

re: #158 Sharmuta

I OBJECT!

IN BED!

re: #134 Guanxi88

People make many sets of plans that run concurrently. Me, I'm taking extra training to enhance my skills at my primary job, which I don't like, while putting in extra hours at the job I hate to get in good with some of the leadership over there, so that my MBA in-progress will have some high-power backing when and if I go job-hunting, which I'm doing now in three states. Multiple plans, all toward the same goal, all with different paths.

Fair enough, makes some sense. I have a lot of irons in the fire myself.

re: #160 sattv4u2

IN BED!

But not often.

re: #120 reine.de.tout

"Sudden jihad syndrome"? Beginning to look like it. But his actions were not done as a part of any contact with any sort of organized group, do you think?

I doubt it was an attack ordered by Al Qaeda of some other group. It does seem like he was acting alone. Possibly the seeds that were planted by radical sermons took a while to to spring up.

re: #143 MandyManners

She was corrupt before she was elected mayor.

When she became City Council president in 1999, an ethics commission advised her to step down from her part-time state government job, saying it raised potential conflicts of interest. Dixon declined, keeping the second job for more than two years.

And it's only going to get worse in this age of self-entitlement and everyone's special rearing.

re: #160 sattv4u2

IN BED!

I OBJECT means I OBJECT ... I think

re: #162 Sharmuta

(but not often enough)

re: #156 WindHorse

hey man... us Presbyterians are sensitive you know...

Please accept my apology to the Presbyterian community--you were singled out solely as an example of a 'not Muslim faith community'. I in no way meant to imply that Presbyterians were particularly inclined to go on shooting sprees.

;)

re: #127 Pepper Fox

Yes.

re: #156 WindHorse

hey man... us Presbyterians are sensitive you know...

How does that saying go?
Presbyterians are Methodists that can spell...
/I'm in trouble aren't I?

re: #164 Pepper Fox

And it's only going to get worse in this age of self-entitlement and everyone's special rearing.

Just wait until the Indigo Children get into office!

re: #170 MandyManners

Just wait until the Indigo Children get into office!

I don't believe I have heard that phrase, elaborate?

re: #157 SanFranciscoZionist

Fine, but the more we know about how these things work, the better we'll be at heading them off.

there was enough odd behaviors to head him off...all disconnected and disregarded by people who should have done something...I believe you cannot head off these freaks if they don't let you...motive to me is more a curiosity than any usable factoid to build some profile around...we should profile, we don't

re: #163 Killgore Trout

I doubt it was an attack ordered by Al Qaeda of some other group. It does seem like he was acting alone. Possibly the seeds that were planted by radical sermons took a while to to spring up.

I sure hope there weren't any seeds planted over a twenty year period to a certain political figure by his pastor don't come back to haunt us...
/

re: #163 Killgore Trout

I doubt it was an attack ordered by Al Qaeda of some other group. It does seem like he was acting alone. Possibly the seeds that were planted by radical sermons took a while to to spring up.

I've said this before, but part of my perception of the big jihad groups is that they are very comfortable with DIY soloist who pop up and carry out an operation.

By contrast, if I decided to start carrying out solo missions on behalf of the Real IRA, I do not think they'd be best pleased.

re: #171 Pepper Fox

I don't believe I have heard that phrase, elaborate?

Brats beyond compare.

re: #170 MandyManners

Just wait until the Indigo Children get into office!

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

new Age clap-trap explaining why their children are so very special and so very much better than any group that ever came before, that their every whim or quirk must not only be catered to, but must become the new norm.

re: #175 MandyManners

Brats beyond compare.

I'm not blaming the kids. I'm blaming their parents.

re: #170 MandyManners

Just wait until the Indigo Children get into office!

An then, the Crystals.

(Note to self. Never vote for anyone who identifies themself as either an Indigo or a Crystal.)

re: #158 Sharmuta

I OBJECT!

I don't know what they have to say
It makes no difference anyway
Whatever it is, I'm against it!
No matter what it is
Or who commenced it
I'm against it!

Groucho Marx, Horse Feathers

since we are being politically incorrect ...
---
An old blind cowboy wanders into an all-girl biker bar by mistake. He finds his way to a bar stool and orders some coffee.

After sitting for a while, he yells to the waiter..."Hey, you wanna hear a blonde joke?"

The bar immediately falls silent. In a very deep husky voice the woman next to him says "Before you tell that joke, Cowboy, I think it's only fair that , given that you are blind, that you should know five things>"

1. The bartender is blonde girl with a baseball bat.

2. The bouncer is a blonde girl.

3. I am a 6 foot 175 lb blonde woman with a black belt in karate.

4. The woman sitting next to me is a blonde professional weight lifter.

5. The lady to my right is blonde and a professional wrestler.

Now think about it seriously, Mister. Do you still want to tell that joke?"

The blind cowboy thinks for a minute, shakes his head and mutters "Not if I"m going to have to explain it five times!"

I'm surprised it took somebody this long to try and work the gun-control angle into the Ft. Hood murder spree.

Fort Hood shootings: gunman used 'cop killer' weapon in massacre at US Army base

Read the article- it doesn't mention who calls it a 'cop killer' weapon; in fact, about the only time it's mentioned is to point out that it's a popular sidearm for SWAT teams.

Of course, it's from a UK newspaper. I'll have to defer to their expertise on the matter, since they have very strict gun control laws to the point where their police go our on patrol unarmed...well...until now, because they've been having problems with street gangs somehow getting guns.

re: #175 MandyManners

Brats beyond compare.

I see...better get the leather belts ready! This time around we may have to use the buckle end!

re: #151 SixDegrees

How long did it take for CNN or MSNBC to trumpet 'this is not terrorism' for the Florida shootings?

re: #176 Guanxi88

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

new Age clap-trap explaining why their children are so very special and so very much better than any group that ever came before, that their every whim or quirk must not only be catered to, but must become the new norm.

Something Jenny McCarthy was/is into. "My kid is not only smarter but more spiritually evolved than your kid."

re: #182 Pepper Fox

I see...better get the leather belts ready! This time around we may have to use the buckle end!

The worst punishment would be to tell them that they're ordinary.

re: #184 SanFranciscoZionist

Something Jenny McCarthy was/is into. "My kid is not only smarter but more spiritually evolved than your kid."

Ah, she's such a fucking flake.

re: #181 Fenway_Nation

I'm surprised it took somebody this long to try and work the gun-control angle into the Ft. Hood murder spree.

Fort Hood shootings: gunman used 'cop killer' weapon in massacre at US Army base

Read the article- it doesn't mention who calls it a 'cop killer' weapon; in fact, about the only time it's mentioned is to point out that it's a popular sidearm for SWAT teams.

Of course, it's from a UK newspaper. I'll have to defer to their expertise on the matter, since they have very strict gun control laws to the point where their police go our on patrol unarmed...well...until now, because they've been having problems with street gangs somehow getting guns.

There was some controversy about the weapon as it was developed to fire a round that had, in its police and military loadings (but not in its civilian loadings) enhanced capabilities for the penetration of soft body armor. The cheif reason the weapon and round are so widely adopted is that the projectile exhibits superior wound characteristics (it tumbles like Nadia Comenici on crack), and offers significantly reduced recoil versus standard 9mm rounds. This, plus the smaller cartridge size and weight, means that a weapon for this calibre can carry many more rounds, offering enhanced effectiveness with reduced recoil. A sort of perfect sidearm.

re: #178 SanFranciscoZionist

An then, the Crystals.

(Note to self. Never vote for anyone who identifies themself as either an Indigo or a Crystal.)

"The indigo children are highly sensitive and psychic."

What in the wow I don't even. I'd never heard those terms before. So it's a bunch of crazy parents who think their kids can bend spoons with their minds?

re: #185 MandyManners

The worst punishment would be to tell them that they're ordinary.

They might be OK with that. Their parents, on the other hand, would melt down.

re: #186 MandyManners

She's a spayshul flake.

re: #184 SanFranciscoZionist

Something Jenny McCarthy was/is into. "My kid is not only smarter but more spiritually evolved than your kid."

My wife would love nothing better than to slap the taste right outta Ms. McCarthy's mouth. That anti-vax and autism thing makes her (the wife) see red. Our youngest is autistic, and she's fed up with having helpful fools ask her if the vaccines did it.

No healthcare vote today? Are they still going at it?

re: #184 SanFranciscoZionist

Something Jenny McCarthy was/is into. "My kid is not only smarter but more spiritually evolved than your kid."

Jenny McCarthy makes Windupbird cry. :-(

re: #192 Killgore Trout

No healthcare vote today? Are they still going at it?

I OBJECT!

re: #188 WindUpBird

"The indigo children are highly sensitive and psychic."

What in the wow I don't even. I'd never heard those terms before. So it's a bunch of crazy parents who think their kids can bend spoons with their minds?

There is no spoon.

re: #133 MandyManners

Intersting...only took halfway through the article to mention Mayor Dixon's political affiliation. Usually they save that for the very enD- that's DepenDing on whether it get mentioneD at all.

re: #192 Killgore Trout

No healthcare vote today? Are they still going at it?

I don't know, I just got back in from a long campaign in the war of the leaves.

Do any of you guys have Showtime?

A woman has been arrested for repeatedly harassing and threatening New York Supreme Court Justice Jeffrey Sunshine, the Brooklyn judge presiding over her divorce proceeding. According to court records, Sunshine initiated the action against Cheryl Uzamere after she left 10 voice messages and sent three faxes to his chambers, containing such threats as "You're going to pay for what you've done" and that "the battle was to the death."

The judge appears to have filed the complaint shortly after Uzamere called the Inspector General's Office of New York County and said she "was going to put on a disguise and shoot [Justice Sunshine] in the head."

Uzamere turned herself in on Tuesday and was sent for psychiatric observation. Many of her complaints against the judge, which stem from her ongoing divorce and child-support dispute with Nigerian Sen. Ehigie Edobor Uzamere, are detailed on her Web site, under the headline "Anti-Schvartze, Talmud-Oriented Bigot Judge Sunshine Continues Reign of Terror Against Schvartze Family."

SNIP

Special snowflake's Web site.

re: #198 _RememberTonyC

Do any of you guys have Showtime?

I do..what up?

re: #192 Killgore Trout

No healthcare vote today? Are they still going at it?

A) No (unless they try to do it really late)
B)Yup

re: #176 Guanxi88

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

new Age clap-trap explaining why their children are so very special and so very much better than any group that ever came before, that their every whim or quirk must not only be catered to, but must become the new norm.

There was apparently a group of Indigo assholes at my door on Halloween. Our neighborhood never gets much traffic, my own kids are grown, we had no decorations and not even a porch light on, but some idiot parent drove to the end of the driveway and dumped five or six twerps out. I learned of this when one of them grabbed our door knocker and gave it the worst pounding it had ever received, and then - after no more than a single second's delay - started kicking my front door as hard as he could, over and over again.

My son answered the door, bowl of candy in hand, and was greeted by a cry of "Grab all of it!" - which all of them proceeded to do.

At this point, I started bellowing, and I'm pretty sure the term "Little fuckers!" carried out to the car where dad was sitting and ignoring this behavior, because he suddenly decided to make a live appearance. I think he was inclined to lay into me, but thought better of it, gather his snot-nosed shitheads back into the car...and drove them another 50 feet to the next house.

I told my son that I would answer the door next time, and that I would either dole out large dollops of flour and water into each of their bags, or jerk one of them inside and slam the door - eventually releasing the victim through the side door with a pants load.

[Rant over]

re: #200 HoosierHoops

I do..what up?

do you watch "Californication" on Sunday nights?

re: #189 SanFranciscoZionist

They might be OK with that. Their parents, on the other hand, would melt down.

By the time the kids are grown, they probably believe their parents' hype.

re: #61 albusteve

I don't diss Charles' music unless he posts Barry Manilow...which is not entirely out of the realm of possibilities

Nooo

re: #187 Guanxi88

Really? I knew the round was smaller, but didn't think it exhibited those charachteristics. I thought the advantage would've been in capacity.

re: #192 Killgore Trout

No healthcare vote today? Are they still going at it?

In bed.

re: #188 WindUpBird

"The indigo children are highly sensitive and psychic."

What in the wow I don't even. I'd never heard those terms before. So it's a bunch of crazy parents who think their kids can bend spoons with their minds?

Essentially. The parents tend to be affluent, New Agey, and wildly overprotective. I don't know about spoon-bending. It's sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy, in that the signs of an indigo are also the signs of a child raised by an affluent, overprotective New Ager.

re: #196 Fenway_Nation

Intersting...only took halfway through the article to mention Mayor Dixon's political affiliation. Usually they save that for the very enD- that's DepenDing on whether it get mentioneD at all.

And, if she were a Republican,...

re: #205 Virginia Plain

I don't know what Albusteve was thinking there- I don't think our Overlord would be so cruel as to inflict Barry Manilow on us.

re: #203 _RememberTonyC

do you watch "Californication" on Sunday nights?

I watch it.. Not on Sunday nights tho... Ondemand.

New Foo out if you are so inclined. You'll have to click out to youtube to listen, embedding disabled:

re: #191 Guanxi88

My wife would love nothing better than to slap the taste right outta Ms. McCarthy's mouth. That anti-vax and autism thing makes her (the wife) see red. Our youngest is autistic, and she's fed up with having helpful fools ask her if the vaccines did it.

People actually ask that? Wow.

re: #209 MandyManners

And, if she were a Republican,...

First sentence.

re: #211 recusancy

I watch it.. Not on Sunday nights tho... Ondemand.

I think the plots and the writing on that show are great.

re: #196 Fenway_Nation

Intersting...only took halfway through the article to mention Mayor Dixon's political affiliation. Usually they save that for the very enD- that's DepenDing on whether it get mentioneD at all.

Meh. Mayor of Baltimore. I think the general election's just a formality at this point.

re: #214 soxfan4life

First sentence.

Headline.

re: #209 MandyManners

'Culture of corruption' dontchya know!

re: #215 _RememberTonyC

I think the plots and the writing on that show are great.

Ya... It's ok. Frank Moody would be an insufferable douchebag if he were a real world person though.

I really want to post I OBJECT! about every 5 to 10 seconds, but I don't think you folks would find it as amusing as I would, so I'm not.

re: #219 recusancy

Ya... It's ok. Frank Moody would be an insufferable douchebag if he were a real world person though.

Hank Moody i mean

re: #206 Fenway_Nation

Really? I knew the round was smaller, but didn't think it exhibited those charachteristics. I thought the advantage would've been in capacity.

Capacity of the magazine is part of it. The 5.7 round is a bottle-necked cartridge, as i recall, so it can pack a good deal of propellant behind a comparatively small projectile. Chief advantage of it is higher velocity and terminal ballistic instability in a smaller package, but it packs enough wallop to get it done. (461 J for 5.7 hardball versus 419 J for 9 mm hardball; 716 m/sec versus 390m/sec for 9 mm).

re: #203 _RememberTonyC

do you watch "Californication" on Sunday nights?

No..Sorry...I have 700 channels and only watch sports or the Science channel mostly on the 73" Samsung.. Well I do TIVO the Beck show to see if he cries at night...He really disappoints me lately...CRY BECK!

re: #219 recusancy

Ya... It's ok. Frank Moody would be an insufferable douchebag if he were a real world person though.

kinda like larry david with a better personality and good looks

re: #224 _RememberTonyC

I like Dexter and Weeds better.

re: #212 Thanos

Thanks! I am so inclined.

re: #213 SanFranciscoZionist

People actually ask that? Wow.

It's Austin, so it kinda goes with the territory. We got Alex Jones as a regular fixture, and his believers are legion. Yeah, the anti-vax thing is strong here - one of #1 daughter's best friends has never had any vaccinations for anything, and she's nearly 7. That girl so much as sniffles, and I'm putting real estate between her and my kids.

re: #223 HoosierHoops

No..Sorry...I have 700 channels and only watch sports or the Science channel mostly on the 73" Samsung.. Well I do TIVO the Beck show to see if he cries at night...He really disappoints me lately...CRY BECK!

speaking of sports ... celts took one on the chin last night at home against the suns ... luckily they get the depleted nets tonight ...

re: #225 recusancy

I like Dexter and Weeds better.

I liked the first 2 seasons of weeds.. I'm over it now

re: #225 recusancy

I like Dexter and Weeds better.

dexter is cool ... i have only watched weeds once ... i also like curb your enthusiasm on hbo

re: #227 Guanxi88

It's Austin, so it kinda goes with the territory. We got Alex Jones as a regular fixture, and his believers are legion. Yeah, the anti-vax thing is strong here - one of #1 daughter's best friends has never had any vaccinations for anything, and she's nearly 7. That girl so much as sniffles, and I'm putting real estate between her and my kids.

Wow. Even if I believed that vaccines caused autism, I can't imagine being rude enough to suggest it out loud to a parent. In the same camp as people who walk up to parents with an adopted child and ask in the kid's presence "Why didn't her real parents want her?"

re: #223 HoosierHoops

No..Sorry...I have 700 channels and only watch sports or the Science channel mostly on the 73" Samsung.. Well I do TIVO the Beck show to see if he cries at night...He really disappoints me lately...CRY BECK!

beck had appendicitis this week ... that's a reason to cry

re: #202 SixDegrees

Similar deal here. Outta candy, after regular hours for trick-or-treaters. Lights off, jack o'lantern candle snuffed out. We went dark.

Doorbell rings. Open the door after turning on the porch light.

Kid who coulda been on the JV football team standing there with a grocery bag.

"Whaddaya want?"

"trick or treat."

"we're out. Get the f*ck off my porch."

While I'm linking to the Guardian:

Bloodless President Barack Obama makes Americans wistful for George W Bush

Even the NBC affiliate in Chicago- hardly a right wing conspiracy mouthpiece- is critical.

Obama's Frightening Insenitivity Following Shooting

Honeymoon's over, looks like.

re: #233 Guanxi88

Similar deal here. Outta candy, after regular hours for trick-or-treaters. Lights off, jack o'lantern candle snuffed out. We went dark.

Doorbell rings. Open the door after turning on the porch light.

Kid who coulda been on the JV football team standing there with a grocery bag.

"Whaddaya want?"

"trick or treat."

"we're out. Get the f*ck off my porch."

Clint Eastwood ... is that you? :)

re: #231 SanFranciscoZionist

Wow. Even if I believed that vaccines caused autism, I can't imagine being rude enough to suggest it out loud to a parent. In the same camp as people who walk up to parents with an adopted child and ask in the kid's presence "Why didn't her real parents want her?"

They think they're being helpful. Wife doesn't tear into them - they don't know any better - but she absolutely hates the folk propagating this insanity. All the rage and resentment generated by the little queries just get added to the rage-tank she's filling for Ms. McCarthy et al.

From the Indigo Children website: the top ten characteristics of an Indigo:

They come into the world with a feeling of royalty (and often act like it)

They have a feeling of "deserving to be here," and are surprised when others don't share that.

Self-worth is not a big issue. They often tell the parents "who they are."

They have difficulty with absolute authority (authority without explanation or choice).

They simply will not do certain things; for example, waiting in line is difficult for them.

They get frustrated with systems that are ritually oriented and don't require creative thought.

They often see better ways of doing things, both at home and in school, which makes them seem like "system busters" (nonconforming to any system).

They seem antisocial unless they are with their own kind. If there are no others of like consciousness around them, they often turn inward, feeling like no other human understands them. School is often extremely difficult for them socially.

They will not respond to "guilt" discipline ("Wait till your father gets home and finds out what you did").

They are not shy in letting you know what they need.

re: #228 _RememberTonyC

speaking of sports ... celts took one on the chin last night at home against the suns ... luckily they get the depleted nets tonight ...

Ha ha...after playing the Knicks the other night, I wouldn't bank on LeBron heading to New York as a free-agent.

re: #235 _RememberTonyC

Clint Eastwood ... is that you? :)

If only I were that cool. Still, I'm better looking, so it all works out. :)

re: #228 _RememberTonyC

speaking of sports ... celts took one on the chin last night at home against the suns ... luckily they get the depleted nets tonight ...

I saw Steve Nash play live a few years ago.. I have never seen such beautiful passing in my life at full speed...I understand Bird and Magic played like that but I never saw them in person...The TV cannot show the speed in real time.

re: #188 WindUpBird

"The indigo children are highly sensitive and psychic."

What in the wow I don't even. I'd never heard those terms before. So it's a bunch of crazy parents who think their kids can bend spoons with their minds?

They took the Red Pill, thus they are not bound by our reality.

/

re: #234 Fenway_Nation

While I'm linking to the Guardian:

Bloodless President Barack Obama makes Americans wistful for George W Bush

Even the NBC affiliate in Chicago- hardly a right wing conspiracy mouthpiece- is critical.

Obama's Frightening Insenitivity Following Shooting

Honeymoon's over, looks like.

Meanwhile former President Bush and his wife Laura visited Fort Hood last night to comfort wounded soldiers and their family members. True class and grace.

re: #233 Guanxi88

Similar deal here. Outta candy, after regular hours for trick-or-treaters. Lights off, jack o'lantern candle snuffed out. We went dark.

Doorbell rings. Open the door after turning on the porch light.

Kid who coulda been on the JV football team standing there with a grocery bag.

"Whaddaya want?"

"trick or treat."

"we're out. Get the f*ck off my porch."

When I was a teenager, we used to live in a house with a paned glass front door. My father, who I have been trying to forgive ever since, refused to get a curtain for it, and we put up with the goddamn thing until our dog and the dog down the street knocked out several panels trying to get at each other.

Halloween night, late, when the creepy teen boys showed up, was always a big, goddamn treat.

I guess I still have some anger about this!

re: #238 Fenway_Nation

Ha ha...after playing the Knicks the other night, I wouldn't bank on LeBron heading to New York as a free-agent.

James will be a Laker next year...I'm betting vegas on it.. He wants a ring

re: #233 Guanxi88

Similar deal here. Outta candy, after regular hours for trick-or-treaters. Lights off, jack o'lantern candle snuffed out. We went dark.

Doorbell rings. Open the door after turning on the porch light.

Kid who coulda been on the JV football team standing there with a grocery bag.

"Whaddaya want?"

"trick or treat."

"we're out. Get the f*ck off my porch."

Yeah, every once in a while the wife will let me off my leash. She says it's great having a hot-headed jerk around for those occasions when subtle hints just won't get it done.

re: #242 soxfan4life

a zillion updings...

re: #237 SanFranciscoZionist

Like is said, brats.

re: #240 HoosierHoops

I saw Steve Nash play live a few years ago.. I have never seen such beautiful passing in my life at full speed...I understand Bird and Magic played like that but I never saw them in person...The TV cannot show the speed in real time.

I'm of the "vintage" and being a kid in Boston I saw Bob Cousy live.

re: #236 Guanxi88

They think they're being helpful. Wife doesn't tear into them - they don't know any better - but she absolutely hates the folk propagating this insanity. All the rage and resentment generated by the little queries just get added to the rage-tank she's filling for Ms. McCarthy et al.

I would be tempted to look at them with big, startled eyes, and say "Oh, no, we didn't vaccinate!"

re: #238 Fenway_Nation

Ha ha...after playing the Knicks the other night, I wouldn't bank on LeBron heading to New York as a free-agent.

fuck the knicks ... if they played iran, i'd have a really tough time deciding who to root for

I'm sorry, I've tried not to gag, but Pelosi is pulling out all the worst stops in her relentless crusade to ram through this great unknown of a healthcare debacle. Her evocation of T Kennedy was saved for last.
Was looking forward to a lovely evening... the damn thing is like a train wreck that you hate to watch... but you just can't stop staring.

re: #244 HoosierHoops

Kobe and Lebron, not enough shots to go around there.