/Is this an Algore film?

Ooooh, guess not...

All of these dang videos should have closed captioning...

Guys, Al Gore actually was the first federal person to push for creating the internet as we know it. The whole smear that he claimed he invented it was a lie from the start. He never said that.

It is even more obnoxious, because he actually did play a major role in making it happen.

Very cool.

re: #4 LudwigVanQuixote

Thanks for stating that.

re: #1 brookly red

How did I know that the first comment would have to do with Al Gore? :-)

OK Everyone -

"The Net" started as a DoD initiative. ARPA/DARPA - Net. A way to connect computers at various Colleges/Universities so that Scientists and their Computers could talk to each other and share ideas and insights.
As had been decided years before - "ARPA" dates back to the FDR Administration - The US Government would be a "No Cost" Licencee - the rest turned over to private industry to sort out as patents and licenses.
Sounds like a Federalist/Whig/Republican idea to me. The only loser has been the US Postal Service. Comments anyone?

-S-

-S-

re: #4 LudwigVanQuixote

Guys, Al Gore actually was the first federal person to push for creating the internet as we know it. The whole smear that he claimed he invented it was a lie from the start. He never said that.

It is even more obnoxious, because he actually did play a major role in making it happen.

Oh alright... can I at least blame him for spam then?

re: #4 LudwigVanQuixote

He did, however, lie about being the inspiration for Love Story.

re: #3 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

All of these dang videos should have closed captioning...

Seriously... people who do videos for the internet should understand that not everybody that is on the internet can listen to sound while they watch the video.

Especially for those poor bastards with crappy laptop speakers.

re: #10 Sharmuta

He did, however, lie about being the inspiration for Love Story.

That makes me dislike that movie even more.

re: #4 LudwigVanQuixote

Guys, Al Gore actually was the first federal person to push for creating the internet as we know it. The whole smear that he claimed he invented it was a lie from the start. He never said that.

It is even more obnoxious, because he actually did play a major role in making it happen.

Historically speaking, that's true. But his exact quote was: "I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system." (Look about 1/5 down the transcript of the original interview for the original quote.)

So you can see why people might be a little confused, since he used the word "creating." But as you say, he did make a major contribution in making it happen.

re: #13 arethusa

Historically speaking, that's true. But his exact quote was: "I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system." (Look about 1/5 down the transcript of the original interview for the original quote.)

So you can see why people might be a little confused, since he used the word "creating." But as you say, he did make a major contribution in making it happen.

Memeslayer.

re: #14 Decatur Deb

Memeslayer.

That would be a cool nic.

re: #13 arethusa

Cool. Let me blame him for pop-ups too.

In fact let me start a top 10 things I hate about the internet* list...
1. spam
2. pop ups
3. ? gimmie a hand here...

* & Blame Algore for.

And now, sunset commences on the San Gabriel Mountains of California. The Towercam, Pacific time zone.

Nature break, the first one for a couple of days from the Towercam.

BBL — Scout meeting.

re: #17 brookly red

In fact let me start a top 10 things I hate about the internet* list...
1. spam
2. pop ups
3. ? gimmie a hand here...

* & Blame Algore for.

Cookies. Or at least the demands from sites to set cookies.

re: #17 brookly red

Lack of closed captioning for video?

re: #20 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Lack of closed captioning for video?

I am totally with you on that one.

re: #8 Dr. Shalit

I still like commemorative postage stamps.

And there's nothing quite like getting a real letter.

re: #17 brookly red

!. Wasting time on Facebook
2. Nigerian investment opportunities
3. Stalkers
4. self important, overindulgent blog posts (present company excluded, of course)

re: #22 Ojoe

And there's nothing quite like getting a real letter.

I have not received a real letter in 10 years...

TCP reports... now I want to watch Office Space.

I think the internet is a basic invention approaching the wheel in importance.

re: #22 Ojoe

Typical Whig sentiment.

re: #17 brookly red

In fact let me start a top 10 things I hate about the internet* list...
1. spam
2. pop ups
3. ? gimmie a hand here...

Phony search engines: "what you need, when you need it".

* & Blame Algore for.

re: #24 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I send them to my Aunt Louise still; she's in her 80s and does not have a computer.

But I have a facebook friend who is in her 90s.

BBL really.

re: #27 Decatur Deb

LOL

re: #23 prairiefire

!. Wasting time on Facebook
2. Nigerian investment opportunities
3. Stalkers
4. self important, overindulgent blog posts (present company excluded, of course)

Nigerian investment opportunities? most excellent!

thanks for that Charles...I'm ready for the quiz, but...
no Aztec Space Gods...bummer

re: #24 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I have not received a real letter in 10 years...

I remember one:

"Greetings. The President would like the pleasure of your..."

The joy of the Internet...

Watching Ida come ashore:

[Link: radar.weather.gov...]

re: #24 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I have not received a real letter in 10 years...

don't worry... the IRS will find you some day

re: #35 brookly red

don't worry... the IRS will find you some day

and when they do, you'd better have you armor polished...those guys mean business

re: #31 brookly red

Nigerian investment opportunities? most excellent!

Add paper mill sites that help students plagiarize and cheat.

Prettier picture:

[Link: radar.weather.gov...]

re: #17 brookly red

Heh...I remember driving across upstate NY in the days before sattelite radio. Slim pickings on the radio and i didn't have too many CD's to choose from...so it was some re-run of a talk show about computers and gadgets. The guest was gushing about his newest invention- it was a real money-maker called 'the pop up ad'.

As he was explaining how it worked I found myself yelling out to nobody in particular 'That was you, you son of a bitch!?' as I reflexive began kicking at the speakers.

I remember working on an old monochromatic (green screen) time share terminal in a Florida State office in the 70s. Every month our division got thousands of delinquincy reports to check, with only five feild auditors we could never do them all. So the first task was to check each report against the current records in Tallahassee, that is what I was hired for. Probably 85-90% of the time by the time we got a delinquincy report in hand the person had already paid the state.

It was the most insanely boring job I ever had, plus you had to wear a suit jacket and tie, even in the office. Boy was I glad to get out of there...

re: #37 arethusa

Add paper mill sites that help students plagiarize and cheat.

Prof. Lee? is that you?

re: #34 freetoken

Incidentally, here is a very good resource on the state of the climate which is about as up to date as possible.

[Link: www.ncdc.noaa.gov...]

It takes some time to analyze and compile the thousands of data sets. So it is currently updated only to September.

For anyone who wishes to go on a doubting campaign, this is a very good at a glance resource, with all the links you could want to the latest papers.

re: #17 brookly red

Emails like this one I just got...

- Send Money Worldwide, Dear Sir/Madam? Are you ready to pick up this $5,000.00 sent today. We have concluded to effect your payment through western union $5,000.00 daily until the $1,800.000.00 is completely transfered. Meanwhile, [NAME DELETED] has western union $5,000.00 in your name today. So contact Western union Agent to pick up this $5000 now:Contact person: (Mr. Nick Maxx) TEL: PH # DELETED, E-mail:(EMAIL DELETED) Ask her to give you the mtcn, sender name, question and answer to pick the $5,000.00. Also you Should send to him your informationsYOUR FULL NAME---YOUR ADDRESS---YOUR DIRECT PHONE NUMBER--- A copy of your picture.Thanks Dr. [NAME DELETED],

re: #33 Decatur Deb

I remember one:

"Greetings. The President would like the pleasure of your..."

Real letter...

re: #39 Fenway_Nation

Heh...I remember driving across upstate NY in the days before sattelite radio. Slim pickings on the radio and i didn't have too many CD's to choose from...so it was some re-run of a talk show about computers and gadgets. The guest was gushing about his newest invention- it was a real money-maker called 'the pop up ad'.

As he was explaining how it worked I found myself yelling out to nobody in particular 'That was you, you son of a bitch!?' as I reflexive began kicking at the speakers.

I hear they have on-line anger management now too :)

re: #44 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Real letter...

Real Bummer of a letter.

OK, just because it was not posted yet... For all those who wish to theorize about free markets... what is the internet for?

re: #9 brookly red

Oh alright... can I at least blame him for spam then?

brookly red -

In my prior Non-Kashrut incarnation, I will only say - In my best Homer Simpsonese - "SPAM - mmm!..." As for Computers, I get it EVERY DAY - including Nigerian Scams from other African Nations such as Burkina Faso.
Hit delete and laugh at them for their silliness and respect them for their initiative, as BENT as it is. That is all.

-S-

re: #44 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Real letter...

You rarely get to see one of Hawkings time arrows do a 90 degree turn.

I remember seeing this almost a year ago, but forgot about it. I love it!

re: #46 Decatur Deb

Real Bummer of a letter.

Deb? I'm thick. Not getting it.

the state of the climate here in ABQ is 64deg, clear skies...is there more I need to know?

re: #51 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Sorry. Paraphrased draft notice. 10 yd. Penalty for obscurity.

re: #52 albusteve

the state of the climate here in ABQ is 64deg, clear skies...is there more I need to know?

*shakes head* *pulls hair*

re: #54 LudwigVanQuixote

*shakes head* *pulls hair*

nyuk! nyuk!

re: #53 Decatur Deb

I was guessing draft notice... but I didn't think they'd been mailed for a while.

re: #56 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I was guessing draft notice... but I didn't think they'd been mailed for a while.

It's not one you forget. In truth, wonderful things like wife and four kids
popped into my path at the instant of opening it.

The pink sunset on the San Gabriels. The Towercam is one of the 10 best things about the internet IMHO.

re: #33 Decatur Deb

I remember one:

"Greetings. The President would like the pleasure of your..."

The correct language: "Greetings. The President of the United States directs you to report...". I still have my letter in a file someplace.

re: #13 arethusa

So he can't be blamed for the best add on the intertubes with a great commercial message...?

re: #59 Cheechako

The correct language: "Greetings. The President of the United States directs you to report...". I still have my letter in a file someplace.

I had a much better relationship with LBJ, being a Dem and all.

re: #42 LudwigVanQuixote

thx... I am aware of the NCDC summaries.

Fundamentally ... few people really care.

But heh, that is no reason to not think about Christmas! (Which is only 44 shopping days away!)

We had a guy in the office that was a major pervert. Spent most of the day at porn sites. When they finally caught him on line at the sites his ass was fired. One problem. My computer is the catch-all for e-mails. I am not a prude but there are some things that are just not right. And nekid shots of grand-ma are horrible.

re: #61 Decatur Deb

I had a much better relationship with LBJ, being a Dem and all.

I guess LBJ didn't like me but, then again, I didn't like him either.

re: #63 Cathypop

We had a guy in the office that was a major pervert. Spent most of the day at porn sites. When they finally caught him on line at the sites his ass was fired. One problem. My computer is the catch-all for e-mails. I am not a prude but there are some things that are just not right. And nekid shots of grand-ma are horrible.

Are you saying that granny isn't entitled anymore to be given some loving?

///

re: #62 freetoken

Somehow your post covers everything quite well. If people actually had a clue, they would care more - byt perhaps not enough to have a consumption fest of unneeded items.

Wow for me that was a weird amalgam of H2G2 and those 8th grade instructional videos, ultimately more of the latter. OT - just learned that Wayman Tisdale is dead, via a Toby Keith video. Time to reboot.

re: #62 freetoken

thx... I am aware of the NCDC summaries.

Fundamentally ... few people really care.

But heh, that is no reason to not think about Christmas! (Which is only 44 shopping days away!)

[Video]

If we could merge your Christmas task with Ojoe's New Whig responsibilites
we could lay one of you off, producing a leaner and meaner LGF.

re: #48 Dr. Shalit

brookly red -

In my prior Non-Kashrut incarnation, I will only say - In my best Homer Simpsonese - "SPAM - mmm!..." As for Computers, I get it EVERY DAY - including Nigerian Scams from other African Nations such as Burkina Faso.
Hit delete and laugh at them for their silliness and respect them for their initiative, as BENT as it is. That is all.

-S-

Fight back!

re: #17 brookly red

In fact let me start a top 10 things I hate about the internet* list...
1. spam
2. pop ups
3. ? gimmie a hand here...

* & Blame Algore for.

Stupid fucking people.

re: #65 LudwigVanQuixote

Are you saying that granny isn't entitled anymore to be given some loving?

///

It really scared me and made me scream.

re: #58 Ojoe

The pink sunset on the San Gabriels. The Towercam is one of the 10 best things about the internet IMHO.

That's a great view!

I sometimes take a look at the Mount Washington Observatory webcams, though it's too dark in the NE right now for any of them to be interesting -- instead, here's a beautiful Mt. Washington sunset from yesterday:
Image: 110823-lg.jpg

I... learned something today. Thanks, Charles.

LOL!

My rotating title was just:
"This is true internet dictatorship."

re: #70 TheMatrix31

Stupid fucking people.

Algore didn't invent them, he just fleeces them.

re: #68 Decatur Deb

If we could merge your Christmas task with Ojoe's New Whig responsibilites
we could lay one of you off, producing a leaner and meaner LGF.

re: #72 simoom

That is one very orange sunset !

Fox News Reports: Millions of Grannies Flee U.S. as Death Panels Loom

WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report) - With the establishment of government-mandated death panels just days away, grandmothers began fleeing the United States in record numbers today, reports Fox News.

"I am never one to yell "Fire" in a crowded theater, said Fox News host Glenn Beck. "But run for your lives!"

Across the country, slow-moving caravans of 1980s-era Cadillacs with turn signals blinking were making the torturous journey to the Canadian border, their back seats laden with cats, knitting projects, and pictures of grandchildren.

re: #78 Killgore Trout

I thought the link was going to be to the Onion News Network. Funny stuff, thanks.

re: #17 brookly red

In fact let me start a top 10 things I hate about the internet* list...
1. spam
2. pop ups
3. ? gimmie a hand here...

* & Blame Algore for.

Dancing mortgage flash ads.
Flash ads.
Obligatory video ads.
Internet Explorer.
Viacom.
Youtube comments.
Almost all user submitted comments ever (present company excluded, obviously).
Walkthroughs.

To name a few...

Thanks Charles. Fond memories of installing and maintaining some of the toys that were the stepping stones to where we are now.

Man confesses to shooting Kan. abortion provider

Defiant and unapologetic, a man accused of shooting a Kansas abortion provider confessed to the slaying Monday, telling The Associated Press that he killed the doctor to protect unborn children.

Scott Roeder, 51, of Kansas City, Mo., spoke to the AP in a telephone call from jail, saying he plans to argue at his trial that he was justified in shooting Dr. George Tiller.

"Because of the fact preborn children's lives were in imminent danger this was the action I chose. ... I want to make sure that the focus is, of course, obviously on the preborn children and the necessity to defend them," Roeder said.

Make of it what you will...

It's amazing to think that the Internet lives up to the worst expectations of Thoreau about the telegraph:

"We are eager to tunnel under the Atlantic . . . ; but perchance the first news that will leak through the broad, flapping American ear will be that the Princess Adelaide has the whooping cough."

A wonderful piece of technology devoted largely to trivial purposes. But no the less wonderful because of it.

re: #81 Bobibutu

heh...I just woke up in 92 and bought a PC...boom!, there it was...AOL, email...sports boards, instant eveything

re: #80 bosforus

Heh .. how many here were on the Internet when the spam message that forever broke the etiquette was posted?

re: #82 freetoken

Man confesses to shooting Kan. abortion provider

Make of it what you will...

A losing defense strategy is what I make of it, he is screwed, deservedly so.

re: #85 Bobibutu

You talking Nigeria princes?

re: #82 freetoken

Man confesses to shooting Kan. abortion provider

Make of it what you will...

look for a crack pot defense of some sort...doing Gods justice and all that

For the Foodies/Garden nuts: Escape to River Cottage was a pretty popular series in the UK although I'd never heard of it. It sort of a journal of homesteading. Lots of good ideas, tips and inspiration. Pretty entertaining as well...
Escape to River Cottage - Episode 1
[Link: www.veoh.com...]

Although he's pretty goofy a lot of his ideas are surprisingly practical.

re: #19 arethusa

Cookies. Or at least the demands from sites to set cookies.

arethusa -

Get CCleaner - use weekly - rinse and repeat - weekly. It is "Freeware" available at "download.com." That is all.

-S-

re: #86 ausador

A losing defense strategy is what I make of it, he is screwed, deservedly so.

he only need 1 of 12...

re: #89 Killgore Trout

additional episodes are available below the video.

re: #83 Guanxi88

It's amazing to think that the Internet lives up to the worst expectations of Thoreau about the telegraph:

"We are eager to tunnel under the Atlantic . . . ; but perchance the first news that will leak through the broad, flapping American ear will be that the Princess Adelaide has the whooping cough."

A wonderful piece of technology devoted largely to trivial purposes. But no the less wonderful because of it.

imagine flush toilets and the invent of rolled toilet paper

One of the lost Hansen Twins is female and plays soccer

Though the good of the internet far outweighs the bad.

How are the hamsters holding up around here?

re: #83 Guanxi88

It's amazing to think that the Internet lives up to the worst expectations of Thoreau about the telegraph:

"We are eager to tunnel under the Atlantic . . . ; but perchance the first news that will leak through the broad, flapping American ear will be that the Princess Adelaide has the whooping cough."

A wonderful piece of technology devoted largely to trivial purposes. But no the less wonderful because of it.

Guanxi88 -

"...Ahh - the Cult of Celebrity - FAR less Harmful Than - The Cult of Personality. Celebrity is generally ephemeral, it wastes a FEW dollars, for a shot time.
Personality is DIFFERENT - when it goes TOO Far - it wastes Human Lives.
That is all.

-S-

re: #91 brookly red

he only need 1 of 12...

The issue will be whether the judge lets him go ahead with that kind of defense.

re: #96 bosforus

Pretty good I think, Under 2,000 people online. Working fine on this end.

re: #99 Killgore Trout

I had 2 network timeouts. Was probably just me. I even went over to Fallback for a second just in case it was widespread.

re: #96 bosforus

How are the hamsters holding up around here?

They seem to be quite capable with handling their fellow rodents...

re: #100 bosforus

Ah, I think Charles is still playing with some new code.

re: #98 freetoken

The issue will be whether the judge lets him go ahead with that kind of defense.

why not? it's the idea thats on trial.

re: #101 freetoken

freetoken -

PU-Leeze -

GoTo - The Hamster Dance. That is all.

-S-

re: #103 brookly red

The "it was justified" defense is not really a defense and it makes a mockery of the justice system. I doubt the judge will let him go ahead with it.

re: #87 bosforus

You talking Nigeria princes?

Naw - they were much later. The two attorneys.

re: #106 Bobibutu

I am without clue. Again...

re: #93 albusteve

imagine flush toilets and the invent of rolled toilet paper

Trust you to ruin a perfectly smug, perfectly hypocritical Web rant against the Web.

re: #106 Bobibutu

Naw - they were much later. The two attorneys.

Hmmm... I don't recall that one.

re: #104 Dr. Shalit

What do you have against the Rodentia? As an order of the Mammals, they make up 40% of all species.

Hmmm... maybe 40% of our Christmas music ought to be likewise...

re: #105 freetoken

The "it was justified" defense is not really a defense and it makes a mockery of the justice system. I doubt the judge will let him go ahead with it.

Maybe not, we shall see... but the protection of others is legaly speaking is a valid defense. Don't get me wrong I would hang him, but I think his defense might just be allowed.

re: #62 freetoken

thx... I am aware of the NCDC summaries.

Fundamentally ... few people really care.

But heh, that is no reason to not think about Christmas! (Which is only 44 shopping days away!)

I don't get worried until the PA system at Macy's starts to tell me that the store will be closing in half an hour.

[Video]

re: #94 Thanos

One of the lost Hansen Twins is female and plays soccer

[Video]

I just glanced at the caption to see where that was from:

University of New Mexico junior defender Elizabeth Lambert has been suspended indefinitely from the women's soccer team after her rough play during a match against BYU in the semifinals of the Mountain West Conference tournament. (Nov. 6)

It's kind of disturbing how she doesn't even look directly at the other player as she yanks her by the hair to the ground, and then kind of nonchalantly backpedals out of frame.

re: #63 Cathypop

We had a guy in the office that was a major pervert. Spent most of the day at porn sites. When they finally caught him on line at the sites his ass was fired. One problem. My computer is the catch-all for e-mails. I am not a prude but there are some things that are just not right. And nekid shots of grand-ma are horrible.

HIS grandma? 'Cause that's just not right

re: #113 simoom

Cause she's a cheater. Probably does it every game & has a rep for it. This time they caught it on film & sent it worldwide! (thanks internet!!)

re: #83 Guanxi88

It's amazing to think that the Internet lives up to the worst expectations of Thoreau about the telegraph:

"We are eager to tunnel under the Atlantic . . . ; but perchance the first news that will leak through the broad, flapping American ear will be that the Princess Adelaide has the whooping cough."

A wonderful piece of technology devoted largely to trivial purposes. But no the less wonderful because of it.

The Internet fulfills all the basic human social desires. These are:

1. Porn
2. Gossip
3. The ability to hold giant swap meets that never end.

I'm sorry if that isn't transcendentalist enough for Thoreau, but it does pretty much sum up the human psyche.

For those complaining about the size of the Healthcare bill...
Facts About the Length of H.R. 3962, the Affordable Health Care for America Act (AHCAA)

Number of substantive words in H.R. 3962: 234,812 words
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix - 257,000 words
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire - 190,000 words
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows – 198,000 words

re: #116 SanFranciscoZionist

The Internet fulfills all the basic human social desires. These are:

1. Porn
2. Gossip
3. The ability to hold giant swap meets that never end.

I'm sorry if that isn't transcendentalist enough for Thoreau, but it does pretty much sum up the human psyche.

Stupid facts!

re: #107 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I am without clue. Again...

Occasional SPAM had been around but was met with solidarity from the community so that the offender was short lived.

In 91 or 92 - a couple of immigration attorneys sent out a message recruiting clients. Everyone was mortified. They repeated it and would not stop. It has been downhill ever since.

re: #117 Killgore Trout

For those complaining about the size of the Healthcare bill...
Facts About the Length of H.R. 3962, the Affordable Health Care for America Act (AHCAA)

Look, there's a huge difference between commercial literary output and a Congressional bill. I'd be happiest if the bill had no words at all, but there it is.

People are willing to voluntarily plunk down money for a Harry Potter book, read it themselves, and with a few exceptions, will not attempt to impose, say, the curriculum at Hogwart's on all and sundry. The same is not true of the legislation in question.

re: #119 Bobibutu

Occasional SPAM had been around but was met with solidarity from the community so that the offender was short lived.

In 91 or 92 - a couple of immigration attorneys sent out a message recruiting clients. Everyone was mortified. They repeated it and would not stop. It has been downhill ever since.

hmmm, I blame Algore.

re: #91 brookly red

he only need 1 of 12...

Last trial I sat on the jury for we all had to fill out a 12 page questionnaire before jury selection and then were extensively questioned by both the defense and the prosecution before being seated on the jury. That was all for a simple self-defense claim in a drunken brawl killing outside a strip club. They started out with 312 prospective jurors, 108 were let go because of their questionnaire answers. Of the first 14 selected for the jury (12 jurors, 2 alternates) 11 were let go after questioning, either by the judge or by challenges of one of the attorneys. It took them three days just to get a jury and the alternates, I was juror 9. When it came time to deliberate the judge's instructions were very specific as to what we could and could not consider as justification for self-defense.

I would imagine that the jury selection in this case will be even more rigorous and the judges instruction similar. I think every effort will be made to ensure that no one who would buy into that defense is going to be sitting on that jury.

re: #117 Killgore Trout

For those complaining about the size of the Healthcare bill...
Facts About the Length of H.R. 3962, the Affordable Health Care for America Act (AHCAA)

Number of substantive words in H.R. 3962: 234,812 words - Cost to me - as yet unknown.
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix - 257,000 words - cost to me - $0.00
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire - 190,000 words - cost to me - $0.00
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows – 198,000 words - cost to me - $0.00

re: #119 Bobibutu

Occasional SPAM had been around but was met with solidarity from the community so that the offender was short lived.

In 91 or 92 - a couple of immigration attorneys sent out a message recruiting clients. Everyone was mortified. They repeated it and would not stop. It has been downhill ever since.

Sorry it was 94 ... how time flys.

[Link: www.legalethics.com...]

The father of modern lawyer spam speaks

The father of modern spam speaks — on April 12, 1994, Laurence Canter and Martha Siegel, two immigration lawyers from Arizona, flooded the Internet with a mass mailing promoting their law firm’s advisory services. Mr. Canter was subsequently disbarred from practicing law by the Supreme Court of Tennessee in 1997, partly because of his e-mail advertising campaign.

re: #122 ausador

Last trial I sat on the jury for we all had to fill out a 12 page questionnaire before jury selection and then were extensively questioned by both the defense and the prosecution before being seated on the jury. That was all for a simple self-defense claim in a drunken brawl killing outside a strip club. They started out with 312 prospective jurors, 108 were let go because of their questionnaire answers. Of the first 14 selected for the jury (12 jurors, 2 alternates) 11 were let go after questioning, either by the judge or by challenges of one of the attorneys. It took them three days just to get a jury and the alternates, I was juror 9. When it came time to deliberate the judge's instructions were very specific as to what we could and could not consider as justification for self-defense.

I would imagine that the jury selection in this case will be even more rigorous and the judges instruction similar. I think every effort will be made to ensure that no one who would buy into that defense is going to be sitting on that jury.

OJ walked.

Attorney General Holder to speak to CAIR-linked group

Attorney General Eric Holder has agreed to give a keynote speech next week to a Michigan group which includes the local branch of the Council on American-Islamic Relations even though the FBI has formally severed contacts with the controversial Muslim civil rights organization.

On Nov. 19, Holder is scheduled to speak in Detroit to the first annual awards banquet of Advocates and Leaders for Police and Community Trust, a coalition of several dozen law enforcement and community groups. An online registration form for the event includes the Council on American Islamic Relations-Michigan on a list of “official & participating organizations.”

A spokeswoman for ALPACT confirmed that CAIR is a member of the coalition.

“CAIR has been involved for a while,” said Chandra McMillion, community development facilitator for ALPACT. “CAIR is listed as an official member.”

The executive director of CAIR’s Michigan chapter, Dawud Walid, also confirmed its involvement with ALPACT. “It’s really nothing controversial. We’ve been part of this organization for years,” he said. “We meet every month and included with us is the U.S. Attorney’s Office, the FBI.”

Walid said he is a regular at ALPACT meetings—including one held Friday at the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Detroit. “A lot of people are there: the NAACP, the ACLU, the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee…the National Lawyers’ Guild,” he said.

The FBI claims it cut “formal contacts” with CAIR after federal prosecutors in the 2007 criminal trial of officers of a Texas-based Islamic charity, the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development, introduced documents the government said showed links between CAIR and the Muslim Brotherhood, which gave rise to Hamas.

“Until we can resolve whether there continues to be a connection between CAIR or its executives and HAMAS, the FBI does not view CAIR as an appropriate liaison partner,” FBI Congressional liaison Richard Powers wrote in an April letter to Senator Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.).

The Justice Department referred questions about Holder’s speech and CAIR’s involvement to the FBI’s field office in Detroit which, in turn, referred the questions to FBI headquarters in Washington.

An FBI spokeswoman confirmed that the FBI’s Special Agent-in-Charge in Detroit, Andy Arena, will serve as co-chair for the Nov. 19 dinner.

“We are co-chairing the event. We are not sponsoring the event,” spokeswoman Jennifer Burnside said. She said the FBI “didn’t have any role” in selling tickets for the event or in issuing invitations.

re: #117 Killgore Trout

So what you are telling us is that we can expect magic wands, potions, and doctors doing house calls on broomsticks?

re: #124 Bobibutu

Sorry it was 94 ... how time flys.

[Link: www.legalethics.com...]

The father of modern lawyer spam speaks

The father of modern spam speaks — on April 12, 1994, Laurence Canter and Martha Siegel, two immigration lawyers from Arizona, flooded the Internet with a mass mailing promoting their law firm’s advisory services. Mr. Canter was subsequently disbarred from practicing law by the Supreme Court of Tennessee in 1997, partly because of his e-mail advertising campaign.

I remember reading an article about the possibility of creating a "virus". Around 1982-84.

re: #117 Killgore Trout

For those complaining about the size of the Healthcare bill...
Facts About the Length of H.R. 3962, the Affordable Health Care for America Act (AHCAA)

/Mao's red book 590 pages...

re: #122 ausador

47 years old.
Registered to vote since I was 18.
Paid all taxes.
On all the databases.

Never been called for Jury duty. Not once.

re: #98 freetoken

The issue will be whether the judge lets him go ahead with that kind of defense.

freetoken -

Capt. Hasan IS - a Dead Man Walking (Soon). The Only Question is IF he DIES after trial - or before. Much like Gov. Kaine of VA, Like Gov. Clinton (D) AK before him, - a (D) Governor WILL allow an Execution or three to happen rather than "look weak." Billy-Jeff" Clinton allowed a mentally impaired human being to be executed. Gov. Kaine will allow "That Muhammad" to give up his life - GOOD ON GOV. KAINE for being about to do so. "That Muhammad" with his "Robin" apparently killed 10-17 "folks." - With Malice Aforethought - and worse - in rebellion against what they perceived of as "The King." Malvo gets "off" because of his youth, Muhammad - Has No Excuse. That is all.

-S-

re: #110 freetoken

What do you have against the Rodentia? As an order of the Mammals, they make up 40% of all species.

Hmmm... maybe 40% of our Christmas music ought to be likewise...

Beavers are industrious clever water managers and environmentalists. Rats, on the other hand, are vile, filthy, spread disease and need killing. And squirrels and chipmunks are cute but shallow and a little nutty.
Me, I want a hula hoop.
Good evening, LGF.

re: #128 Decatur Deb

I remember reading an article about the possibility of creating a "virus". Around 1982-84.

ARPANET had a virus back in the 70s.

re: #129 brookly red

/Mao's red book 590 pages...

Obama's Little Blue Book - 156 pages

re: #117 Killgore Trout

substantive words

What?

It was in an aol chat room (was it a chat room or some sort of blog? cant remember) back in 1995 that I was able to purchase tickets to a football game for a reasonable price - person to person. Ah the good ole days!

re: #134 Guanxi88

Obama's Little Blue Book - 156 pages

/the abridged version?

re: #133 Bobibutu

ARPANET had a virus back in the 70s.

"Bobbity" -

Viruses then, Viruses NOW - That Which Doesn't Kill You Makes You Stronger.
That is all.

-S-

re: #138 Dr. Shalit

Spawned and entire industry.

re: #129 brookly red

/Mao's red book 590 pages...

Marx's 1905 Manifesto of the Communist Party is but 64 pages.

/Obama can't even be an efficient communist!

Water aerobics calls. L8er

re: #130 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

47 years old.
Registered to vote since I was 18.
Paid all taxes.
On all the databases.

Never been called for Jury duty. Not once.

In Anchorage I got called every other year without fail, I sat on three different juries in my 17 years there. The rest of the time my name wasn't pulled out of the drum and i got to go home.

re: #133 Bobibutu

ARPANET had a virus back in the 70s.

Might have been the same thing, surfacing in the user-oriented literature.

re: #117 Killgore Trout

For those complaining about the size of the Healthcare bill...
Facts About the Length of H.R. 3962, the Affordable Health Care for America Act (AHCAA)

Number of substantive words in H.R. 3962: 234,812 words
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix - 257,000 words
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire - 190,000 words
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows – 198,000 words

Since when is any Harry Potter book written by people we elect and pay? Does any Harry Potter book propose to control our lives?

re: #117 Killgore Trout

For those complaining about the size of the Healthcare bill...
Facts About the Length of H.R. 3962, the Affordable Health Care for America Act (AHCAA)

Number of substantive words in H.R. 3962: 234,812 words
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix - 257,000 words
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire - 190,000 words
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows – 198,000 words

Constitution of the United States, as adopted : 4,400 words

re: #140 freetoken

Marx's 1905 Manifesto of the Communist Party is but 64 pages.

/Obama can't even be an efficient communist!

Dang! why didn't I think of that?

re: #144 MandyManners

Since when is any Harry Potter book written by people we elect and pay? Does any Harry Potter book propose to control our lives?

re: #120 Guanxi88

Look, there's a huge difference between commercial literary output and a Congressional bill. I'd be happiest if the bill had no words at all, but there it is.

People are willing to voluntarily plunk down money for a Harry Potter book, read it themselves, and with a few exceptions, will not attempt to impose, say, the curriculum at Hogwart's on all and sundry. The same is not true of the legislation in question.

re: #123 Guanxi88

For those complaining about the size of the Healthcare bill...
Facts About the Length of H.R. 3962, the Affordable Health Care for America Act (AHCAA)

Number of substantive words in H.R. 3962: 234,812 words - Cost to me - as yet unknown.
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix - 257,000 words - cost to me - $0.00
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire - 190,000 words - cost to me - $0.00
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows – 198,000 words - cost to me - $0.00

re: #130 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

47 years old.
Registered to vote since I was 18.
Paid all taxes.
On all the databases.

Never been called for Jury duty. Not once.

Move to Galveston...I get called every 18 months like clockwork.

What the hell does "substantive words" mean?

re: #149 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

What the hell does "substantive words" mean?

Excludes conjunctions, definite and indefinite articles, that kinda thing.

I love Harry Potter.

re: #148 Big Steve

Move to Galveston...I get called every 18 months like clockwork.

Guess I should become a convicted felon before I move to Galveston.

re: #150 Guanxi88

Excludes conjunctions, definite and indefinite articles, that kinda thing.

Seems to exclude "death" in relationship to "panels".

re: #152 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Guess I should become a convicted felon before I move to Galveston.

DC is nice...

I'm forgetting to do something, but I can't remember what it was...

re: #155 J.S.

I'm forgetting to do something, but I can't remember what it was...

/did you send my check?

re: #151 Sharmuta

I love Harry Potter.

One of the funniest SNL skits over the last ten years was when the "hottie du jour" was Hermione on the first day back to school after summer break. She had "filled out".

Was freakin' hysterical.

re: #149 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I assume that means they didn't count standards preambles, discalimers and other formalities that are included in all bills.

re: #145 Guanxi88

Number of substantive words in H.R. 3962: 234,812 words
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix - 257,000 words
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire - 190,000 words
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows – 198,000 words

Constitution of the United States, as adopted : 4,400 words

Watson and Crick's original paper on DNA was 1.5 pages...but it only unlocked the secret of life.

re: #155 J.S.

I'm forgetting to do something, but I can't remember what it was...

I Forgot To Remember To Forget -Beatles

re: #157 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That was Lindsey Lohan with her new boobies.

re: #148 Big Steve

Move to Galveston...I get called every 18 months like clockwork.

Not once in my life have I been called to jury duty..At this point if they ever call me I'm walking in the Courtroom and asking..'Who we hanging today?'

re: #159 Big Steve

Watson and Crick's original paper on DNA was 1.5 pages...but it only unlocked the secret of life.

I was gonna mention the declaration of independence but hat tip to you...

Hey, here's a question I never thought I'd ask: "does anyone know what is spacejesus' take on the healthcare bill?" I ask because that guy never ceases to surprise me.

Probably good for the spinoffs:

Muhammad: The “Banned” Images

I’m pleased to be the first to report that the newly founded Voltaire Press at Duke University has just published Muhammad: The “Banned” Images. The book includes all the images that were omitted by the Yale University Press from Jytte Klausen’s The Cartoons That Shook the World — including the 12 Mohammed cartoons — plus many more historically significant items (a total of 31), together with brief discussions of the context behind each work. The images, reproduced in high quality and in full color, include works by William Blake, Gustave Dore, and Salvador Dali, as well as Muslim artists from the Ottoman, Safavid, and Mughal empires.

re: #157 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

One of the funniest SNL skits over the last ten years was when the "hottie du jour" was Hermione on the first day back to school after summer break. She had "filled out".

FOUND IT!

Lindsey Lohan!

re: #162 HoosierHoops

Not once in my life have I been called to jury duty..At this point if they ever call me I'm walking in the Courtroom and asking..'Who we hanging today?'

I got called in Boston. Got out of it during voire dire. Questionnaire asked if I had family or friends in law enforcement. I did.

Counsel asks whether this would affect my ability to view the facts impartially. Of course not - I was quite confident that Boston cops were as honest and truthful as those I knew from elsewhere, and could be relied upon to provide fair and equitable treatment to all.

re: #163 brookly red

I was gonna mention the declaration of independence but hat tip to you...

wanna see it...A Structure for Deoxyribose Nucleic Acid - JD Watson, FHC Crick

re: #168 Big Steve

wanna see it...A Structure for Deoxyribose Nucleic Acid - JD Watson, FHC Crick

link no work :(

re: #117 Killgore Trout

For those complaining about the size of the Healthcare bill...
Facts About the Length of H.R. 3962, the Affordable Health Care for America Act (AHCAA)

Number of substantive words in H.R. 3962: 234,812 words
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix - 257,000 words
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire - 190,000 words
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows – 198,000 words

A really snarky SOB would point out that Rawling's output is accurately labeled as fiction, and that no one believes anything written in her books to be true.

Put in the spinoffs the Amazon link to the new book of "banned" Mohammed images.

re: #117 Killgore Trout

For those complaining about the size of the Healthcare bill...
Facts About the Length of H.R. 3962, the Affordable Health Care for America Act (AHCAA)

And at least Harry Potter we know has a happy ending. /spoiler alert...

Can the same be said about a trillion dollar proposal that actually is an open ended commitment that will likely exceed the projections within short order?

The number of words isn't nearly as important as what they do or don't say.

It's my belief that this is a proposal the nation simply can't afford, will saddle future generations with a crushing tax burden, and when you have to penalize people in order to gain participation, what exactly does that say about how the need? It's not that people will voluntarily want to participate; the penalty provisions will demand participation or else pay the amount they need paid in order to cover the costs. When they price of the program continues increasing, the costs will be passed on to taxpayers.

re: #160 Bloodnok

although "forgetting to remember to forget" is different from "remembering one forgot to remember."

re: #173 J.S.

although "forgetting to remember to forget" is different from "remembering one forgot to remember."

Dude, pass that over this way!

re: #158 Killgore Trout

I assume that means they didn't count standards preambles, disclaimers and other formalities that are included in all bills.

Well, fuck, the whole flippin bill is probably riddled with disclaimers!

re: #175 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Well, fuck, the whole flippin bill is probably riddled with disclaimers!

we should hold them accountable anyway...

Number of substantive words in H.R. 3962: 234,812 words
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix - 257,000 words
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire - 190,000 words
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows – 198,000 words

it's also impressive that Rowling requires, in the case of the last two novels listed, fewer words to create from scratch an entire world than do Congressional democrats to modify but one part of it. The magic tie-in is nice, though. Harry Potter's books feature the use of words and intentions to modify the underlying nature of reality and suspend or violate certain laws of nature, and Congress appears to believe that just such a thing is possible. This bill is their own prolonged incantation.

re: #170 Guanxi88

Uhhh, the point is that the bill is very readable and comparable is size to other legislation. It's large but nothing that unusual. One of the reasons I'm agnostic/slightly supportive is that the criticism of healthcare reform has been meaningless (the size of the bill) or dishonest (death panels, socialism etc).

re: #176 brookly red

we should hold them accountable anyway...

Main disclaimer is probably...

"Please understand, this will remain a work in progress."

re: #172 lawhawk

I don't think it's going to be that bad.

re: #180 Killgore Trout

I don't think it's going to be that bad.

it will be worse...

re: #179 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Main disclaimer is probably...

"Please understand, this will remain a work in progress."

Well it better be, if anyone thinks a change of this size is going to be immutable and perfect from the outset they are freaking nuts!

re: #89 Killgore Trout

For the Foodies/Garden nuts: Escape to River Cottage was a pretty popular series in the UK although I'd never heard of it. It sort of a journal of homesteading. Lots of good ideas, tips and inspiration. Pretty entertaining as well...
Escape to River Cottage - Episode 1
[Link: www.veoh.com...]

Although he's pretty goofy a lot of his ideas are surprisingly practical.

OK, favorited, to watch later.
Thanks!

re: #178 Killgore Trout

My criticism (today, anyway) is that the whole affair is half-assed.

Why diddle around with insurance companies? Why not just open a thousand government health clinics across the country that provide essential services to treat (1) infectious diseases, (2) pre-natal care, and (3) children's examinations ?

re: #180 Killgore Trout

I don't think it's going to be that bad.

Sure..My premiums will go way the hell up to pay for people that will pay little to nothing for Healthcare...Share the wealth baby

re: #180 Killgore Trout

KT? I do not trust these people. Not about Obama.

I wouldn't have trusted a Republican congress with this either.

I'd love to think the government can do this. They have done nothing (NOTHING) to make me want to trust them with this.

re: #180 Killgore Trout

I think it's going to be worse than you can possibly imagine precisely because of the open ended unfunded mandate it creates at the end of the day. For all the talk about the 7 and 10 year projections, what happens when the numbers don't work, and everyone realizes the mess we're in. The Democrats will demand - and likely get - more taxes and fees to pay for it, even though the most important numbers are flatly ignored by all the health care proposals. Even the projections rely upon the rosy economic scenarios, and even a slight downgrade in economic growth will have serious consequences.

That is - you cannot change the law of supply and demand, and unless the number of doctors is vastly increased in a very short time, there are going to be millions more patients with the same number of doctors - a situation that will lead to worse care, shorter doc visits, and all the talk of affordability will give way to realization that quality of care has taken a serious hit.

re: #171 freetoken

Put in the spinoffs the Amazon link to the new book of "banned" Mohammed images.

How many pages is in it?

The internet. Quite the "intelligent design".

re: #188 NJDhockeyfan

How many pages is in it?

According to the publisher, 48. But not all of them are substantive. 31 images and a two page essay, so I'd say 33 substantive pages. That's half of the Communist Manifesto!

re: #178 Killgore Trout

Uhhh, the point is that the bill is very readable and comparable is size to other legislation. It's large but nothing that unusual. One of the reasons I'm agnostic/slightly supportive is that the criticism of healthcare reform has been meaningless (the size of the bill) or dishonest (death panels, socialism etc).

The criticism of the thing is distinct from the thing itself. The bill, as presented, requires an undeniably large mass of verbiage to attain its desired effects. The very size of the bill should be a fair indication that something is very wrong here.

This is not to suggest that a shorter bill would be better. That said, the sheer ponderous bulk of the thing, and the reams and scads of Federal Register pages that will be required to implement it, do not bode well for the success of the enterprise. The great the complexity of a tool, the greater the likelihood of failure in that tool, particularly in a dynamic environment.

My biggest question has to be this - if the thing is such a priority, if there's such a crying need to get this done and get it done now, why do most of its provisions not kick in until after BHO is out of danger of losing his re-election bid for the White House?

Secondly, if the task of rectifying the health insurance system is so overwhelming as to require a bill of this size (consisting, largely, not of new laws, but amendments to existing laws and regulations, meaning that a full-on, coherent narrative, as if the bill were to be introduced on its own and in a legal vacuum would likely resemble the large-print version of the last 8 manhattan and LA phone books) and complexity simply to get the ball rolling, how much more complicated could the task be?

re: #184 freetoken

My criticism (today, anyway) is that the whole affair is half-assed.

Why diddle around with insurance companies? Why not just open a thousand government health clinics across the country that provide essential services to treat (1) infectious diseases, (2) pre-natal care, and (3) children's examinations ?

Couple problems with that idea:

1) It might work;
2) It limits government control and spending; and
3) It's hard to see how one could really get to work on graft with something like that.

re: #178 Killgore Trout

Uhhh, the point is that the bill is very readable and comparable is size to other legislation. It's large but nothing that unusual. One of the reasons I'm agnostic/slightly supportive is that the criticism of healthcare reform has been meaningless (the size of the bill) or dishonest (death panels, socialism etc).

3 Trillion Dollars.

I believe I win.

re: #187 lawhawk

I think it's going to be worse than you can possibly imagine precisely because of the open ended unfunded mandate it creates at the end of the day. For all the talk about the 7 and 10 year projections, what happens when the numbers don't work, and everyone realizes the mess we're in. The Democrats will demand - and likely get - more taxes and fees to pay for it, even though the most important numbers are flatly ignored by all the health care proposals. Even the projections rely upon the rosy economic scenarios, and even a slight downgrade in economic growth will have serious consequences.

That is - you cannot change the law of supply and demand, and unless the number of doctors is vastly increased in a very short time, there are going to be millions more patients with the same number of doctors - a situation that will lead to worse care, shorter doc visits, and all the talk of affordability will give way to realization that quality of care has taken a serious hit.

Exactly right.

Government run health is effectively "All In". Once we start there is no turning back - regardless of soaring costs.

re: #193 Racer X

3 Trillion Dollars.

I believe I win.

Sadly, unless the Senate can kill this thing (now there's a death panel I hope is real), you lose.

re: #117 Killgore Trout

My problem isn't with the LENGTH of the bill...

re: #139 Bobibutu

Bobbity -

Biggest NORTON since ED in 1956. without mentioning McAfee et. al. Big Bill Gates might just wind up owning this space with "Microsoft Freeware" - an almost OxyMoron. Microsoft Security Essentials looks to be really good, as was "One Care" the orphan of Bad Marketing due to Anti-Trust concerns.
Trust me - MS will OWN this space unless the "others" can show extra value for a price above ZERO. That is all - for now.

-S-

OT:
I am just watching a TV broadcast of Canadian Sacrifice Medal presentations in Ottawa by the Governor General and attended by Prime Minister Harper.
So painful and touching to look at the faces of the brave wounded soldiers and the surviving parents/spouses of the ones killed in service.
Very grateful for their service, yet wondering whether the future of the Afghan mission will justify the terrible sacrifices.

re: #195 Guanxi88

Sadly, unless the Senate can kill this thing (now there's a death panel I hope is real), you lose.

We all lose.

I cannot fathom why anyone would support this astronomical increase in the size of government. When has that ever worked out favorably to a society?

re: #199 Racer X

We all lose.

I cannot fathom why anyone would support this astronomical increase in the size of government. When has that ever worked out favorably to a society?

And, oddly enough, we go from off-topic right back on-topic.

re: #200 Guanxi88

And, oddly enough, we go from off-topic right back on-topic.

The internets don't cost taxpayers trillions of dollars.

re: #196 Floral Giraffe

My problem isn't with the LENGTH of the bill...

Are saying size doesn't matter?

re: #201 Racer X

The internets don't cost taxpayers trillions of dollars.

only cause they haven't figured out how to tax it yet...

whatever else, I for one appreciate Killgores optimism...goofy sometimes but we need a breather from all the heavy negativity...I think he's wrong but it's not come due yet

re: #201 Racer X

The internets don't cost taxpayers trillions of dollars.

Oops! I thought this was the Berlin Wall thread. Never mind.

re: #162 HoosierHoops

Not once in my life have I been called to jury duty..At this point if they ever call me I'm walking in the Courtroom and asking..'Who we hanging today?'

LOL!
You'll get excused, but might piss the judge off enough, that he makes you sit & wait & wait & wait...

re: #202 NJDhockeyfan

Are saying size doesn't matter?

OMG.
LOL!

re: #183 Floral Giraffe

OK, favorited, to watch later.
Thanks!

I'm really enjoying it. Wait 'till you see his homemade fishing lure in episode two.

re: #13 arethusa

Historically speaking, that's true. But his exact quote was: "I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system." (Look about 1/5 down the transcript of the original interview for the original quote.)

So you can see why people might be a little confused, since he used the word "creating." But as you say, he did make a major contribution in making it happen.

I'm confused by the word "initiative." What did he do?

re: #4 LudwigVanQuixote

Guys, Al Gore actually was the first federal person to push for creating the internet as we know it. The whole smear that he claimed he invented it was a lie from the start. He never said that.

It is even more obnoxious, because he actually did play a major role in making it happen.

Al Gore's claim to furthering significantly the development of the internet was a lot closer to the truth of the matter than Sarah Palin's boast that she knew squatdoodle about foreign policy because of Alaska's proximity to Russia.

re: #185 HoosierHoops

Sure..My premiums will go way the hell up to pay for people that will pay little to nothing for Healthcare...Share the wealth baby

I've got some bad news for you. Your premiums are going to go way the hell up whether this bill passes or not.

re: #1 brookly red

/Is this an Algore film?

He did invent the algorerythem that brought about its wide spread use.

/Please throw tomatoes at me now. That was horrible. I know.

re: #4 LudwigVanQuixote

Guys, Al Gore actually was the first federal person to push for creating the internet as we know it. The whole smear that he claimed he invented it was a lie from the start. He never said that.

It is even more obnoxious, because he actually did play a major role in making it happen.

Right.

He didn't say he invented it. He said he created it.

Much more godlike.

re: #213 SixDegrees

NO. He did not say that.

He said that he took the initiative in creating the internet, which much as you may hate to admit it, from a federal legislative view, is a true statement.

re: #199 Racer X

We all lose.

I cannot fathom why anyone would support this astronomical increase in the size of government. When has that ever worked out favorably to a society?

Yes, because Medicare, for example, has been such a bust. Seniors hate it so much they run around with signs at anti-health-care-reform tea parties bleating "keep your government hands off my Medicare!"

Fact is, Medicare is such a success, people have forgotten it's run by the government. The evil, evil government, which is totally separate from the good, good people.

If people get the government they deserve, and our government is evil, then we all ought to STFU about how wonderful Americans are.

Thank you Al Gorithm for our porn. Without you all is death and suffering.
ALL HAIL, THE AL GORITHM! SAVIOR OF HUMANKIND!