Awesome New Milky Way Image from NASA’s Space Telescopes

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Science • Tue Nov 10, 2009 at 2:40 pm PST • Views: 943

Phil Plait has a great description of what you see in this stunning new picture of the center of the Milky Way galaxy, a mosaic comprised of images from the Hubble (visible light), Chandra (X-rays), and Spitzer (infrared) space telescopes.

There is so much going on in this image it’s hard to know where to start. But first… the Hubble images are in the near-infrared, with a wavelength a little more than twice what the eye can see (1.87 microns for those playing at home). That’s represented in the image as yellow. Spitzer contributed observations in four infrared wavelengths (3.6, 4.5, 5.8, and 8.0 microns), and those are depicted in red. Chandra sees X-rays which are normally written as units of energy, but to remain consistent with the other two images, they were at wavelengths of 0.0005, 0.00025, and 0.00016 microns, and are shown in blue.

What does all this mean? Different objects emit light at different characteristic wavelengths. Warm dust, for example, emits strongly in the infrared. Stars and warm gas emit visible and near-infrared light. Violently heated gas, affected by huge magnetic fields or shocked by colossal collisions glows in X-rays. So this image is a polychromatic view of the crowded downtown region of a bustling city: our galaxy.

Here’s the page at HubbleSite, where you can find high resolution images for desktop wallpaper: HubbleSite - NewsCenter - NASA’s Great Observatories Celebrate International Year of Astronomy (11/10/2009) - Release Images.

And here’s the combined image; click it to see a popup showing all three parts.

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1 Barbarian at the Gate  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 2:43:03pm

Positively awesome!

2 bosforus  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 2:43:23pm
Phil Plait has a great description of what you see in this stunning new picture of the center of the Milky Way galaxy

Yeah, a giant f*n octopus!

3 mich-again  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 2:44:33pm

A stunning image. Scientific artwork?

4 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 2:44:33pm

Thanks for reminding me- I still have some Milky Ways left over from Halloween.

/not alot of trick-or-treaters this year

5 bosforus  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 2:44:43pm

Actually, I see Satan's hand.
It's a sign!

6 mich-again  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 2:45:02pm

Or artistic science?

7 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 2:45:26pm

re: #3 mich-again

Get a Reuters stringer from Beirut and I'm sure he could photoshop in another galaxy or two.

8 Daniel Ballard  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 2:45:42pm

New Desktop!

9 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 2:48:11pm

re: #2 bosforus

Yeah, a giant f*n octopus!

Or maybe it's the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

10 wrenchwench  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 2:53:15pm

re: #1 Barbarian at the Gate

Positively awesome!

Welcome, er, hatchling?

11 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 2:55:38pm

SCIENCE! ENGINEERING! LABOR!

GOTTA LOVE IT!

12 astronmr20  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 2:56:04pm

This is the region that is not "far" from our galazy's super-massive black hole at the center. Only recently, we've found stars spinning around it at over 500 km per second.

Consider-- that "rip" in space-time is 3 million times more massive than our sun...

14 Ojoe  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 2:56:17pm

O the glory of it all,

there is no excuse for us to argue like children

15 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 2:56:28pm

re: #1 Barbarian at the Gate

What a shy little kitty. Hello, kitty!

16 LudwigVanQuixote  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 2:56:43pm

One of the reasons I got into the branch of physics I am in, non-linear dynamics, is how easily it can be applied to many different and fabulous physical systems.

My biggest problem when I went to graduate school was that I wanted to study all of it. Choosing a specialization was very difficult for me.

17 astronmr20  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 2:58:39pm

re: #16 LudwigVanQuixote

One of the reasons I got into the branch of physics I am in, non-linear dynamics, is how easily it can be applied to many different and fabulous physical systems.

My biggest problem when I went to graduate school was that I wanted to study all of it. Choosing a specialization was very difficult for me.

Ahhh.. good 'ole "Classical Chaos!" (:

18 HoosierHoops  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 2:59:18pm

I just love it Charles links to Phil's site! The dude is just a Astronomy Stud..
He worked on the Hubble for 10 years..

19 Ojoe  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 2:59:38pm

Somewhere there must be a nebula shaped like Marilyn Monroe.

20 astronmr20  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:00:53pm

re: #16 LudwigVanQuixote

Like you, I only wish I had more time in my life to study and branch out into such things.

I'm currently in the middle of a Mitchio Kaku book. The draw of the "theory of everything" is irresistible to me.

21 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:00:58pm

re: #19 Ojoe

Somewhere there must be a nebula shaped like Marilyn Monroe.

Or, a constellation named the Big Titty?

22 HoosierHoops  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:01:31pm

re: #19 Ojoe

Somewhere there must be a nebula shaped like Marilyn Monroe.

Well technically, nebula's are dead stars...

23 bosforus  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:01:54pm

re: #19 Ojoe

Somewhere there must be a nebula shaped like Marilyn Monroe.

I'm sure Glenn Beck could find it for you pretty quick.

24 Ojoe  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:02:29pm

re: #22 HoosierHoops

ROFLMAO

25 HoosierHoops  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:02:33pm

re: #20 astronmr20

Like you, I only wish I had more time in my life to study and branch out into such things.

I'm currently in the middle of a Mitchio Kaku book. The draw of the "theory of everything" is irresistible to me.

I love him! The TOE theory is very interesting

26 bosforus  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:02:49pm

re: #21 MandyManners

Or, a constellation named the Big Titty?

We don't need to go to the stars for that kind of innuendo.

27 SixDegrees  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:04:09pm

re: #19 Ojoe

Somewhere there must be a nebula shaped like Marilyn Monroe.

If the Universe were truly infinite, there would be a planet full of Marilyn Monroes, all in love with Ojoe.

But it might take you an infinite amount of time to find it.

28 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:04:38pm

re: #19 Ojoe

I think the closest astronomers have come to such a discovery so far was the Britney Spears Passed Out Facedown In Her Own Vomit Nebula...

29 hellosnackbar  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:05:26pm

And all this plus the many billion other galaxies all with just a wave of the hand from god??
The magnificence, mystery and mind numbing scale of even our home galaxy
makes the concept of creationism so obviously venal.

30 astronmr20  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:05:50pm

re: #21 MandyManners

Or, a constellation named the Big Titty?

Actually, you are living in it. In Greek Mythology;

When the Titaness Rhea presented a stone wrapped in swaddling cloth to Cronus as substitute for the infant Zeus, the Titan pressed it against her breast and milk flowed forth which flowed formed the Milky Way. (Hyginus 2.43)


So...

Yeah. Boobs.

31 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:05:50pm

re: #26 bosforus

We don't need to go to the stars for that kind of innuendo.

Cold enough for ya?

32 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:06:45pm

re: #26 bosforus

We don't need to go to the stars for that kind of innuendo.

Gorgeous.

33 barbarian at the gate  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:07:28pm

re: #21 MandyManners

Or, a constellation named the Big Titty?

Now, now Mandy! LOL

34 bosforus  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:08:18pm

re: #32 MandyManners

Gorgeous.

I heard somewhere that that is the most photographed barn in America.

35 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:08:23pm

re: #33 barbarian at the gate

Now, now Mandy! LOL

Welcome!

36 Summer Seale  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:08:39pm

As awe-inspiring as this photo is, as much as it proves that chemistry, physics, astronomy, math and many other sciences come together and are proven correct...

...

...remember that the earth is still only 6000 years old - and they have proved it..."scientifically".

37 barbarian at the gate  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:08:49pm

re: #35 MandyManners

Welcome!

Thank you. Nice to see everyone.

38 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:08:51pm

re: #34 bosforus

I heard somewhere that that is the most photographed barn in America.

Too bad the owners don't get a buck off of it.

39 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:09:26pm

re: #37 barbarian at the gate

Thank you. Nice to see everyone.

Not everyone. Don't try to suck up to me :)

40 barbarian at the gate  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:09:49pm

re: #39 Walter L. Newton

Not everyone. Don't try to suck up to me :)

You I've heard about!

41 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:11:37pm

OT - (I guess)

Since Iceweasel and Jimmah are now an "item" I guess up ding takes on a whole new meaning?

42 astronmr20  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:11:56pm

re: #25 HoosierHoops

I love him! The TOE theory is very interesting

IMO, he's the only "popularly" published quantum physicist that can explain things without being too basic, or sounding like a textbook. A great personality with quite an ability for describing incredible things. Not to mention he was actually involved with devising string, superstring, and m-theory.

Getting into m-theory, though, really will blow your mind. In our own universe, since it rests only on the surface of what is visible and tangible to us, nearly anything, including another universe, can appear seemingly out of nowhere.

43 barbarian at the gate  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:11:58pm

re: #15 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

What a shy little kitty. Hello, kitty!

I love your nic.

44 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:12:54pm

Pasta time.

45 barbarian at the gate  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:13:06pm

re: #41 Walter L. Newton

OT - (I guess)

Since Iceweasel and Jimmah are now an "item" I guess up ding takes on a whole new meaning?

They are? Wow an LGF romance!

46 astronmr20  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:13:56pm

re: #41 Walter L. Newton

OT - (I guess)

Since Iceweasel and Jimmah are now an "item" I guess up ding takes on a whole new meaning?

"Schwing?"

47 bosforus  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:14:01pm

re: #44 MandyManners

Pasta time.

Watch out for spaghetti monsters.

48 LudwigVanQuixote  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:14:03pm

re: #17 astronmr20

Ahhh.. good 'ole "Classical Chaos!" (:

Yes it's lovely stuff! So is the quantum variety!

Fractals are simply gorgeous.

Chaos and fractals allowed me to unify my love of mathematics with my love of art. I find them incredibly beautiful and the mathematics is incredibly powerful. By powerful math, I mean mathematics that describes a lot of the things we could not before, like galactic formation, stellar evolution, the patterns of mountains and valleys, the patterns of a leopard's spots, branching systems in the body (like lungs and nerves and arteries), the way that flowers grow and storms and weather.

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49 LudwigVanQuixote  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:14:37pm

re: #20 astronmr20

Like you, I only wish I had more time in my life to study and branch out into such things.

I'm currently in the middle of a Mitchio Kaku book. The draw of the "theory of everything" is irresistible to me.

I started out in string theory. It's really good stuff.

50 HoosierHoops  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:14:58pm

re: #42 astronmr20

IMO, he's the only "popularly" published quantum physicist that can explain things without being too basic, or sounding like a textbook. A great personality with quite an ability for describing incredible things. Not to mention he was actually involved with devising string, superstring, and m-theory.

Getting into m-theory, though, really will blow your mind. In our own universe, since it rests only on the surface of what is visible and tangible to us, nearly anything, including another universe, can appear seemingly out of nowhere.

Well brane theory certainly brings an eloquence to an alternate to the Big bang.. Isn't he a member of the Nuker Team?

51 Bagua  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:15:09pm

Correlation is not Photoshop.

52 barbarian at the gate  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:15:27pm

re: #10 wrenchwench

Welcome, er, hatchling?

Well thank you kind lady (assuming the "wench" is a lady).

53 LudwigVanQuixote  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:16:30pm

re: #22 HoosierHoops

Well technically, nebula's are dead stars...

And the birth place of new ones...

54 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:17:10pm

re: #20 astronmr20

Like you, I only wish I had more time in my life to study and branch out into such things.

I'm currently in the middle of a Mitchio Kaku book. The draw of the "theory of everything" is irresistible to me.

Mitchio Kaku has actually written a number of articles critiquing and supporting the physics that are in the TV show "LOST." He has a style that makes some of the denser stuff easier to understand.

55 LudwigVanQuixote  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:17:15pm

re: #50 HoosierHoops

Well brane theory certainly brings an eloquence to an alternate to the Big bang.. Isn't he a member of the Nuker Team?

It also allows for the wrst physics puns. Yes there really is such a thing as a
p-brane.

56 HoosierHoops  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:17:48pm

re: #53 LudwigVanQuixote

And the birth place of new ones...

So you are saying that there is a Megan Fox nebula?
Righteous!

57 wrenchwench  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:18:16pm

re: #52 barbarian at the gate

Well thank you kind lady (assuming the "wench" is a lady).

A valid assumption. Where have you been hiding for almost two years?

58 LudwigVanQuixote  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:19:00pm

re: #56 HoosierHoops

So you are saying that there is a Megan Fox nebula?
Righteous!

Well, I would certainly call her stellar... But if I am going to lust after a lady from Hollywood, I would have to pick Natilie Portman.

59 Racer X  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:21:10pm

re: #41 Walter L. Newton

OT - (I guess)

Since Iceweasel and Jimmah are now an "item" I guess up ding takes on a whole new meaning?

I thought they arrived together?

60 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:21:34pm

re: #58 LudwigVanQuixote

Well, I would certainly call her stellar... But if I am going to lust after a lady from Hollywood, I would have to pick Natilie Portman.

Cosmic star empress Natalie Portman!

61 SixDegrees  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:22:41pm

re: #60 WindUpBird

Cosmic star empress Natalie Portman!

WindUpBird.

WindUpActress.

Fitting, somehow.

63 Racer X  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:25:36pm

re: #49 LudwigVanQuixote

I started out in string theory. It's really good stuff.

Oh yeah, like everything is just a mass of tiny vibrating strings.

64 Ojoe  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:26:56pm

re: #63 Racer X

I read a book about string theory and it seemed absurd, and it gave me a headache.

65 bosforus  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:27:12pm

Another song by Dino for the lovebirds:
Ain't That a Kick in the Head

And one more
Everybody Loves Somebody

Two songs I've grown to love since I've been married (for a year and a half).

66 LudwigVanQuixote  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:27:21pm

re: #63 Racer X

Oh yeah, like everything is just a mass of tiny vibrating strings.

Actually the vibrational modes in the strings are the origins of quantum fields.

67 Ojoe  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:30:22pm

re: #66 LudwigVanQuixote

There must be some sticks pushing on the strings or the they cannot be kept in tension to vibrate & maybe the whole structure is like one of Bucky Fuller's tensegrities.

68 Racer X  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:30:43pm

re: #66 LudwigVanQuixote

Actually the vibrational modes in the strings are the origins of quantum fields.

I'm convinced that a thousand years from now space travel will involve not me moving in a space ship, but the entire universe moving while I stay put. Unlimited speed and range in a fraction of a second.

69 LudwigVanQuixote  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:32:08pm

re: #67 Ojoe

There must be some sticks pushing on the strings or the they cannot be kept in tension to vibrate & maybe the whole structure is like one of Bucky Fuller's tensegrities.

The strings are not made of actual string. There are lots of things that waggle with modes that are not like that at all.

For instance, suppose I have cavity radiation, where are the "sticks" in a light wave?

70 Taqyia2Me  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:32:35pm

re: #41 Walter L. Newton

OT - (I guess)

Since Iceweasel and Jimmah are now an "item" I guess up ding takes on a whole new meaning?

Congrats to Iceweasal and Jimmah!

71 LudwigVanQuixote  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:32:41pm

re: #68 Racer X

I'm convinced that a thousand years from now space travel will involve not me moving in a space ship, but the entire universe moving while I stay put. Unlimited speed and range in a fraction of a second.

I'm pretty convinced that energy will still be conserved...

72 LudwigVanQuixote  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:33:46pm

ok I need to get some dinner.

73 Achilles Tang  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:34:35pm

re: #14 Ojoe

O the glory of it all,

there is no excuse for us to argue like children

Definitely not. We should do so like adults.

74 HoosierHoops  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:34:36pm

re: #66 LudwigVanQuixote

Actually the vibrational modes in the strings are the origins of quantum fields.

Boy..If the LHC can compress dimensions there will be some serious shit that will go down in physics...

75 Pawn of the Oppressor  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:34:54pm

I'm glad to see Bad Astronomy (a misnomer) show up in the links lately... I've become a big fan of Phil Plait and his blog. The Planetary Society's blog and Universe Today are also daily reads.

76 Achilles Tang  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:35:40pm

re: #68 Racer X

I'm convinced that a thousand years from now space travel will involve not me moving in a space ship, but the entire universe moving while I stay put. Unlimited speed and range in a fraction of a second.

and the difference is...?

77 HoosierHoops  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:36:05pm

re: #75 Pawn of the Oppressor

I'm glad to see Bad Astronomy (a misnomer) show up in the links lately... I've become a big fan of Phil Plait and his blog. The Planetary Society's blog and Universe Today are also daily reads.

Universe today is pure science..You are right..A daily read

78 barbarian at the gate  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:37:04pm

re: #57 wrenchwench

A valid assumption. Where have you been hiding for almost two years?

I had a lot of issues to resolve in my life and work. I stayed away from all blogging.

79 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:38:08pm

re: #68 Racer X

I'm convinced that a thousand years from now space travel will involve not me moving in a space ship, but the entire universe moving while I stay put. Unlimited speed and range in a fraction of a second.

According to Miller from Repo Man, time machines and flying saucers are the same thing. Sounds like you described them both.

80 LudwigVanQuixote  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:38:18pm

re: #74 HoosierHoops

Boy..If the LHC can compress dimensions there will be some serious shit that will go down in physics...

Yeah but it won't. There is a chance of exciting a resonance in one of the compactified dimensions, if they are real. Those are the min black holes that people went on about. And for the record, that is not a black hole at all in the Einsteinian sense.

It is like a black hole in that some energy density would go eleswhere that is unaccessible to us, and that it would decay like a black hole of that mass in terms of a signature.

It is only media hype, and really stupid media hype to have hyperventilated over the name.

81 SixDegrees  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:40:23pm

re: #67 Ojoe

There must be some sticks pushing on the strings or the they cannot be kept in tension to vibrate & maybe the whole structure is like one of Bucky Fuller's tensegrities.

*Ahem* You mean Kenneth Snelson's tensegrities.

82 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:41:37pm

Just stunning!

83 barbarian at the gate  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:42:43pm

Funny but when I was a kid I hated both math and science -now if I could go back in time I would ace both those subjects.

84 barbarian at the gate  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:43:19pm

re: #82 Sharmuta

Just stunning!

Hey Sharmuta what's going on?

85 LudwigVanQuixote  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:43:21pm

re: #83 barbarian at the gate

Funny but when I was a kid I hated both math and science -now if I could go back in time I would ace both those subjects.

So what is stopping you from learning it now?

86 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:43:22pm

re: #80 LudwigVanQuixote


It is only media hype, and really stupid media hype to have hyperventilated over the name.

Yeah, some terms ("net neutrality" and "Tri-lateral Commission," for instance) just seem to invite ignorant fabrication and there is no shortage of the ignorant and unscrupulous willing to accept the invitation.

87 bosforus  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:46:16pm

re: #78 barbarian at the gate

Glad you got everything worked out. Here's to hoping you stick around for a while!

88 LudwigVanQuixote  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:46:19pm

re: #86 Shiplord Kirel

Yeah, some terms ("net neutrality" and "Tri-lateral Commission," for instance) just seem to invite ignorant fabrication and there is no shortage of the ignorant and unscrupulous willing to accept the invitation.

So sad and so true.

You just gave me an idea. I am going to change the name of AGW to Man Caused Global Eco Collapse.

I rather like the idea of taking back names.

89 barbarian at the gate  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:46:36pm

re: #85 LudwigVanQuixote

So what is stopping you from learning it now?

Oh I can learn it, it's just that when I was a young student I developed a phobia about it. It is hard to bullshit when it comes to mathematics and natural sciences, either the answer is right or it is wrong. Parsing words and great rhetoric wont help you. (Unlike English Lit!)

90 bosforus  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:48:02pm

re: #89 barbarian at the gate

It is hard to bullshit when it comes to mathematics and natural sciences...


Says who?

91 barbarian at the gate  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:48:03pm

re: #87 bosforus

Glad you got everything worked out. Here's to hoping you stick around for a while!

Thank you. I intend to. Blog ahs changed a bit. A lot of old names 've been looking for I do not see but that's life.

92 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:48:12pm

re: #3 mich-again

A stunning image. Scientific artwork?

Absolutely. Nature is the best artist there is. You can't top her.

93 Millicent Islam  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:49:53pm

re: #59 Racer X

I thought they arrived together?

Nope. Met here!

re: #70 Taqyia2Me

Congrats to Iceweasal and Jimmah!

Thanks!
And thanks bosforus too.
Walter-- 'dinging' has always had a special meaning. :)

94 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:50:04pm

re: #92 Sharmuta

Absolutely. Nature is the best artist there is. You can't top her.

in bed

95 LudwigVanQuixote  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:50:09pm

OK some really really lame physics puns...

This is the sub-standard model...

In it, you have the moron, it's anti-particle the less on and a super partner called the more off than on.

There is the family of the political particles called the Nixon and the Felon.

And the Clinton and the handson.

and the list goes on...

96 Achilles Tang  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:50:31pm

re: #89 barbarian at the gate

. It is hard to bullshit when it comes to mathematics and natural sciences, either the answer is right or it is wrong. Parsing words and great rhetoric wont help you. (Unlike English Lit!)

Are we to assume that you are an honest person, as well as somewhat naive then?

97 barbarian at the gate  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:50:47pm

re: #93 iceweasel

You two getting married? congratulations! Where and when? (Not necessary to give out the answers)

98 LudwigVanQuixote  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:51:21pm

re: #89 barbarian at the gate

I hear that. One of the things that gets me in discussions here is that I can't just wrote an equation and say look at the math!

99 barbarian at the gate  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:51:33pm

re: #96 Naso Tang

Are we to assume that you are an honest person, as well as somewhat naive then?

Assume whatever you want. I do not consider myself to be naive.

100 Killgore Trout  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:51:58pm

A thrifty tip for fall gardeners: I planted my winter garden almost 2 months ago but slugs and pests cleaned me out. I came up with a clever solution. I cut the bottom off 1 gallon plastic jugs (like the ones for milk, vinegar, etc). I then planted two or three seeds for kale, chard, spinach, etc then pressed in jug down on top of it, about three inches deep. This not only keeps roaming slugs at bay but also provides extra warmth for my seedlings on sunny days. In another few weeks I'll be able to take them off when the plants are large enough to withstand a slug attack.
For my Brussels sprouts I cut the bottom off of those plastic nursery pots and pressed them into the ground about 3-4 inches. I lined the top of each pot with copper tape from the garden center to keep the slugs from climbing in. I'll keep them in place all winter as a permanent slug barrier.

101 Achilles Tang  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:52:19pm

re: #99 barbarian at the gate

Assume whatever you want. I do not consider myself to be naive.

That a joke/dig. You need to hang out here a while.

102 barbarian at the gate  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:53:12pm

re: #101 Naso Tang

I know you were joking. I wish I could have bullshitted on my High School Chemistry finals.

103 Achilles Tang  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:53:49pm

re: #102 barbarian at the gate

I know you were joking. I wish I could have bullshitted on my High School Chemistry finals.

You would need the Phd first.

104 bosforus  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:53:54pm

re: #101 Naso Tang

That's a joke, son!
Done for a bit. Play nice.

105 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:54:12pm

re: #102 barbarian at the gate

I know you were joking. I wish I could have bullshitted on my High School Chemistry finals.

I got a D in high school chemistry and ended up working for a chemical company for 13 years.

106 Bagua  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:54:48pm

re: #100 Killgore Trout

Depending on your region if cold is a factor, you should be able to plant them earlier in the season as well.

107 Achilles Tang  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:55:57pm

re: #104 bosforus

That's a joke, son!
Done for a bit. Play nice.

So that's where you hang out when not here..

108 barbarian at the gate  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:56:00pm

re: #105 Mad Al-Jaffee

I got a D in high school chemistry and ended up working for a chemical company for 13 years.

That's a great way to have the last laugh on those God awful High School teachers.

109 reine.de.tout  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:56:47pm

re: #49 LudwigVanQuixote

I started out in string theory. It's really good stuff.

In one of my daughter's HS classes, the teacher introduced them to string theory, and she was fascinated.

110 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:56:53pm

re: #100 Killgore Trout

A thrifty tip for fall gardeners: I planted my winter garden almost 2 months ago but slugs and pests cleaned me out. I came up with a clever solution. I cut the bottom off 1 gallon plastic jugs (like the ones for milk, vinegar, etc). I then planted two or three seeds for kale, chard, spinach, etc then pressed in jug down on top of it, about three inches deep. This not only keeps roaming slugs at bay but also provides extra warmth for my seedlings on sunny days. In another few weeks I'll be able to take them off when the plants are large enough to withstand a slug attack.
For my Brussels sprouts I cut the bottom off of those plastic nursery pots and pressed them into the ground about 3-4 inches. I lined the top of each pot with copper tape from the garden center to keep the slugs from climbing in. I'll keep them in place all winter as a permanent slug barrier.

You should write these tips up for the cookbook blog, then use the cookbook blog post as a link.

111 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:56:56pm

re: #108 barbarian at the gate

Yeah, but my job really didn't have much to do with chemistry. I worked in a library.

112 barbarian at the gate  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:57:50pm

Cookbook?

113 Killgore Trout  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:58:49pm

re: #106 Bagua

I planted about 2 months ago but slugs kept ravaging my seedlings. No amount of slug control would do the job this year. The plastic jugs and physical barriers is the only thing that's working. Hopefully things will be established before we get freezes here. I'm way behind this year.

114 Bagua  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:59:13pm

re: #112 barbarian at the gate

Cookbook?

Oh dear... has no one told him?

115 barbarian at the gate  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:59:46pm

re: #114 Bagua

Oh dear... has no one told him?

actually I am a "her". Who wrote a cookbook?

116 Killgore Trout  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:59:48pm

re: #110 Sharmuta

Wow, that was quick! Did you post that there?

117 Ojoe  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 4:01:13pm

re: #81 SixDegrees

I did not know that!

Thanks, I've saved it ti disc.

118 HoosierHoops  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 4:01:25pm

re: #115 barbarian at the gate

actually I am a "her". Who wrote a cookbook?

We all did..And it rocks!

119 reine.de.tout  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 4:02:42pm

re: #100 Killgore Trout

A thrifty tip for fall gardeners

Anyone wanting to see the collection of Killgore's gardening tips and recommendations, click here.

While you're there, you might as well "show all posts", and check out Volume 1 of the LGF cookbook, featuring artwork by our very own and very talented Jaunte!

Do it know, or Sharmuta will yell at you.

120 Aye Pod  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 4:03:31pm

re: #97 barbarian at the gate

You two getting married? congratulations! Where and when? (Not necessary to give out the answers)

Cheers :) We are getting married around christmas, at a secret but romantic location.

121 reine.de.tout  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 4:03:39pm

re: #110 Sharmuta

Shar - I'm grabbing these as Killgore posts them in the threads. If the post has an upding from me, I've seen it and grabbed it. If no upding from me - if someone would mail the link to me, I will include it in Killgore's Gardening Section.

122 Ojoe  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 4:03:46pm

re: #69 LudwigVanQuixote

Well in the sense that tension cannot exist by itself ...

If there is a pull there must be a push?

One would think.

123 Bagua  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 4:04:05pm

re: #113 Killgore Trout

It's an elegant solution. If it gets too hot inside your mini-greenhouse you can cut slats and cover them with bridal veil.

Alternatively if planting a spring crop you can plant them earlier.

Slugs are proof the universe hates us.

124 barbarian at the gate  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 4:04:21pm

re: #118 HoosierHoops

We all did..And it rocks!

How so? Any exotic dishes?

125 HoosierHoops  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 4:05:05pm

re: #124 barbarian at the gate

How so? Any exotic dishes?

Click on Reine's nic..You'll see!

126 Bagua  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 4:05:36pm

re: #120 Jimmah

Cheers :) We are getting married around christmas, at a secret but romantic location.

Let us know as soon as you set the date so we can all make travel arraignments.

127 barbarian at the gate  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 4:05:44pm

re: #120 Jimmah

Cheers :) We are getting married around christmas, at a secret but romantic location.

Again that's great. I wonder if any other nuptials have taken place within LGF.

Did you meet here?

128 barbarian at the gate  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 4:06:27pm

re: #125 HoosierHoops

Click on Reine's nic..You'll see!

Ok thanks. Will do.

129 LudwigVanQuixote  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 4:07:05pm

re: #122 Ojoe

Well in the sense that tension cannot exist by itself ...

If there is a pull there must be a push?

One would think.

Only if you are talking about a mechanical system.

That is why I brought up light waves.

A light wave works because a changing magnetic field causes a changing electric field which causes a changing magnetic field. The fields leapfrog over each other.

What about the wave forms of non-relativistic quantum mechanics? Those are waves in a probability space. They are certainly waves in the mathematical sense in that they obey the wave equation, but there is not anything like tension to talk about.

130 LudwigVanQuixote  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 4:07:37pm

re: #109 reine.de.tout

In one of my daughter's HS classes, the teacher introduced them to string theory, and she was fascinated.

It warms my heart when I hear there are good teachers in high-school!

131 reine.de.tout  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 4:08:20pm

re: #128 barbarian at the gate

Ok thanks. Will do.

There are still copies for sale.
Proceeds are split 50/50 between LGF and Soldier's Angels.

132 reine.de.tout  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 4:09:29pm

re: #130 LudwigVanQuixote

It warms my heart when I hear there are good teachers in high-school!

Her teacher worked for NASA as a nuclear physicist, retired from NASA and is now teaching HS (with his wife, who teaches Spanish).

they are both fluent in a couple of languages, and take a group of students on a European tour each summer.

Amazingly awesome people.

133 HoosierHoops  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 4:10:09pm

re: #130 LudwigVanQuixote

It warms my heart when I hear there are good teachers in high-school!

Me too! My basketball coach in High school was my history teacher.. I made B's. I don't know shit about history..
Don't judge me!
*wink*

134 Racer X  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 4:10:48pm

re: #120 Jimmah

Cheers :) We are getting married around christmas, at a secret but romantic location.

Congratulations!

135 Aye Pod  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 4:11:40pm

re: #127 barbarian at the gate

Again that's great. I wonder if any other nuptials have taken place within LGF.

Did you meet here?

Yes! We are both very grateful here to LGF for that :)

136 Killgore Trout  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 4:13:16pm

re: #123 Bagua

It's an elegant solution. If it gets too hot inside your mini-greenhouse you can cut slats and cover them with bridal veil.

Alternatively if planting a spring crop you can plant them earlier.

Slugs are proof the universe hates us.

That's what I use the caps for. You can always pop open the cap to look inside and check how things are going. If we have a hot spell I can always open the cap in the daytime and then close them up when the slugs come out at night.

137 Aye Pod  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 4:14:08pm

Tatu : Space

138 Millicent Islam  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 4:17:34pm

re: #133 HoosierHoops

Me too! My basketball coach in High school was my history teacher.. I made B's. I don't know shit about history..
Don't judge me!
*wink*


For Hoops:

139 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 4:17:51pm

re: #116 Killgore Trout

Wow, that was quick! Did you post that there?

Reine is the bomb.

140 Bagua  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 4:18:14pm

re: #136 Killgore Trout

Oh caps, I hadn't thought of using that end.

141 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 5:34:35pm

re: #130 LudwigVanQuixote

It warms my heart when I hear there are good teachers in high-school!

I had some totally awesome teachers in high school, like my math genius trig and computer programming teacher. She was totally into Metallica and designing CAD software. I swear she dreamed of C++ code when she slept.

My high school got pretty decent funding, (our computer lab was pretty nice) and had good AP programs. My vocational design/AP art teacher was a working professional designer, and also one of those people that dripped with amazing ability.

142 Dr. Shalit  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 6:33:16pm

Absolutely Gorgeous -

Hey Canonical - could you Please, Please make this picture into a screen saver ASAP, or at least on "L-L" when it comes out. This Pic should be an UBUNTU/LINUX Moment. That is all.

-S-

143 Land Shark  Thu, Nov 12, 2009 11:02:02am

Wow! Simply an amazing image. Each of the 3 images by themselves are quite impressive, the combined image is stunning.

As someone whose had an interest in astronomy all my life, it's amazing how far our understanding of our galaxy and the universe in general has come. Back then the Andromeda galaxy was the farthest object we knew of, now it's considered part of our local group of galaxys!

Thanks for posting this Charles, truly awesome!


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