Perhaps they will redecorate the management floor in orange.

/

Gosh. How does a reporter get in his publisher's face?

I can't wait for this thing to blow up big-time into a gosh-awful apocalyptic mess of teh Kra-Z.

re: #2 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Gosh. How does a reporter get in his publisher's face?

I get the feeling it's much more about religious control of the cult than a journalistic issues. Moon's sons are consolidating control of the church and its entities by putting their own people in charge.

re: #4 Killgore Trout

I get the feeling it's much more about religious control of the cult than a journalistic issues. Moon's sons are consolidating control of the church and its entities by putting their own people in charge.

Wow! It's almost like the dynastic struggles we're bound to see in North Korea, only here.

re: #5 Guanxi88

Wow! It's almost like the dynastic struggles we're bound to see in North Korea, only here.

And as far as I know, none of the Moon family has nukes, which makes me feel much more relaxed about their internecine struggles.

Wash Times on the Brink?

...one key is that the future operation of the Washington Times -- either as a print newspaper or in any form at all -- seems to be in real question, whether that's because the Moon family decides for its own ideological or familial reasons to pull the plug or because the fighting within the family creates a cash shortfall that prevents the paper from staying open.

The unreported story is about finances.

The Washinton Examiner is kicking butt.

The MOONIES? I haven't heard anything out of them in a LONG time. Since when has the Washington Times been in that family? I'm honestly asking, because I didn't have the slightest clue.

Imagine, if you will...

re: #9 thedopefishlives

I don't either. Didn't have a clue.

Everybody on staff can just get married on the same day every year?

It's not so weird, it's just the same economic downturn that is affecting all print media...according to the WaPo.
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

Always nice to wake up to religious infighting over money.

What would we do without the zealous trying to dictate our morality while they disregard it in their own lives?

re: #8 researchok
WaPo says so too.
But Talking Points Memo wouldn't be interested in the regular boring stuff...///

Why is the third floor sealed off?

Maybe the new management commutes via an interdimensional portal and breathes a toxic atmosphere incompatible with our own.
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re: #9 thedopefishlives

The MOONIES? I haven't heard anything out of them in a LONG time. Since when has the Washington Times been in that family? I'm honestly asking, because I didn't have the slightest clue.

My understanding is that the Moonies own the paper but claim to have a hands-off policy on editorial matters.

For decades, the prevailing lie from defenders of the WashTimes when people bring up its cult ownership is that the Moonie "church" plays no active part in running the paper.

Now we find out that the business end is dominated by high-ranking Moonies.

Surprise, surprise, surprise.

re: #9 thedopefishlives

I found this looking for info about how many people have subscriptions to their paper.

It is from October 2004., but it is an informative read.

Who's driving the bus?

re: #9 thedopefishlives

They founded the Wash Times in the 80's. It's always been their propaganda tool.

re: #9 thedopefishlives

Since for Evuh.
Okay, a long time.

re: #2 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Something similar happened at the Washington Post (with reporters going at it), and with all the job losses in the newspaper business, tensions are high across the industry, and not just at the Washington Times.

re: #16 Cato the Elder
The point has been made often that moonies played no part in the editorial or news content of the paper. Of course they would have a part in the business end of it... they own it.

re: #16 Cato the Elder

For decades, the prevailing lie from defenders of the WashTimes when people bring up its cult ownership is that the Moonie "church" plays no active part in running the paper.

Now we find out that the business end is dominated by high-ranking Moonies.

Surprise, surprise, surprise.

I think they Moon family ought to sell to the Scientologists.

re: #9 thedopefishlives

The MOONIES? I haven't heard anything out of them in a LONG time. Since when has the Washington Times been in that family? I'm honestly asking, because I didn't have the slightest clue.

ummm,,, like ,,, since it;s FOUNDING !(1982)
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

re: #23 sattv4u2

I had no idear!

I think that Stacy McCain should get a collection from his readers so that he can do some investigative reporting of his former employer. Maybe he can hit on some Moonie Lesbians in the process (that would be news).

Did you hear what I said, Washington Times? Or shall I turn it up for you?

re: #26 bosforus

Did you hear what I said, Washington Times? Or shall I turn it up for you?

Hey! Sharmuta!

re: #26 bosforus

(They're all cowering under their desks, I'm sure).

re: #23 sattv4u2

ummm,,, like ,,, since it;s FOUNDING !(1982)
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Huh. Whaddya know. I learned something today.

If it weren't for the Moonie angle this would be a basic "failing corporation fires upper management, changes the locks, and doesn't tell the rank 'n file workers squat about it" story. How many from the Washington Times had already jumped ship?

Armed guards in the msm? Isn't this the sort of behavior critics of liberal fascism would say we'd see in the left-wing press?

re: #26 bosforus

Did you hear what I said, Washington Times? Or shall I turn it up for you?

"I hope they can see this, because I'm doing it has hard as I possibly can"

re: #28 tradewind

(They're all cowering under their desks, I'm sure).

The explosion will be of extraordinary magnitude.

re: #31 Sharmuta

Hi Sharm...

re: #21 tradewind

The point has been made often that moonies played no part in the editorial or news content of the paper. Of course they would have a part in the business end of it... they own it.

Yeah, right, and if you believe the business side has no influence on the storytelling fable-making propaganda Big Lie news side, I have some sub-prime credit default swaps you might be interested in buying.

Reverend Moon say "Everybody kick in fifty bucks..."

BTW - Happy Veteran's Day to my fellow vets. Also noticed that Google now acknowledges both veterans and memorial day now that Bush is no longer around.

Conditional recognition of service members is not recognition of service members. It is something else entirely.

I can see the new editor sitting in a plus sized leather executive chair stroking a white cat.

Didn't the moonies, at one time, own the Empire State Building?

re: #32 Guanxi88

Sadness is for poor people!
(last one)
-relieved that a Mooninite quote doesn't go unnoticed here-

re: #39 WindHorse

Didn't the moonies, at one time, own the Empire State Building?

I don't know, but I believe they at one point held a controlling interest in Ronald Reagan.

re: #31 Sharmuta

Armed guards in the msm? Isn't this the sort of behavior critics of liberal fascism would say we'd see in the left-wing press?

The "armed guards" are probably rent-a-cops, not tactical swat teams. Most likely there to ensure employees who have been let go take nothing out of their offices other than personal affects

re: #39 WindHorse

Didn't the moonies, at one time, own the Empire State Building?

Actually, according to glen beck, they used to own the moon. The moon is made of green cheese. You know what else is green? MONEY! I'm not saying it's true, but think about it. Doesn't that mean that the Moonies control the entire US financial system?

/Beck

re: #37 karmic_inquisitor

Google had a Veterans day logo last year as well (and Bush was still in office). It's better late than never for them to have done something to recognize the hard work and dedication of our US servicemembers.

Bing.com has a very good front page as well, and ask.com has a flag logo behind their front page.

Thanks to all the servicemembers out there.

re: #34 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hi, FBV! Weird what happens when a cult owns a media outlet, huh?

re: #42 sattv4u2

The "armed guards" are probably rent-a-cops, not tactical swat teams. Most likely there to ensure employees who have been let go take nothing out of their offices other than personal affects

Fascism!

Ted Turner created and owns CNN.

CNNs editorial slant reflects Ted's.

There is no sort of magic partition between owners and editors. Some are less intrusive than others but it is never a clean division. Advertisers know this. PR people know this. Editors certainly know it.

re: #44 lawhawk

Google had a Veterans day logo last year as well (and Bush was still in office). It's better late than never for them to have done something to recognize the hard work and dedication of our US servicemembers.

Bing.com has a very good front page as well, and ask.com has a flag logo behind their front page.

Thanks to all the servicemembers out there.

Thanks for correcting that.

re: #45 Sharmuta

Hi, FBV! Weird what happens when a cult owns a media outlet, huh?

I know, just look at MSNBC! ( I kid!)

re: #47 karmic_inquisitor

Ted Turner created and owns OWNED CNN.

CNNs editorial slant reflects Ted's.

There is no sort of magic partition between owners and editors. Some are less intrusive than others but it is never a clean division. Advertisers know this. PR people know this. Editors certainly know it.

ftfy (he made a deal with the devil several years ago)

re: #42 sattv4u2

The "armed guards" are probably rent-a-cops, not tactical swat teams. Most likely there to ensure employees who have been let go take nothing out of their offices other than personal affects

What would a non-personal affect look like?

I gotta' give props to Helen Thomas for resigning from UPI after it was bought by the Moonies.

re: #50 sattv4u2

I thought he got a good bit of it back. Is he out completely?

re: #51 Cato the Elder

/The blank stare that accompanies most snarky typo corrections./

re: #35 Cato the Elder

Sorry, you're stuck with 'em.

re: #53 karmic_inquisitor

I thought he got a good bit of it back. Is he out completely?

Although there are reports that he would like to have it back, NO, except for still having his name on A Time Warner board he has nothing to do with the day to day ops of it or any of "his" other ventures (Headline News, WTBS, et al)

re: #52 MandyManners
Why? She's just as crazy as they are.

While we're all jumping up and making ourselves feel great by wishing a Happy Veterans' Day to military personnel past and present, may I just say that to the homeless vet whose regular post is the corner of Cold Spring Lane and Roland Avenue in Baltimore, those prayers and "thank yous" are cold comfort indeed. People, please look into what you can actually do for vets in need, because our vaunted system leaves many in the lurch. Iraq and Afghanistan vets with severe PTSD are being told they really had a "pre-existing condition" before they joined the service so the VA doesn't have to cover their care. The "nothing's too good for our men and women in uniform" line is often just that - a nice sentiment with little to back it up.

That the murderous Maj. Hasan, a fourth-rate doctor, could qualify as a military psychiatrist gives you some idea of how bad things are.

re: #52 MandyManners

I gotta' give props to Helen Thomas for resigning from UPI after it was bought by the Moonies.

Was that in 1934 or 1935?

re: #52 MandyManners
I wonder, though, if she was more worried about the actual ownership change or how it was going to affect her ability to go postal on anything conservative or Republican...

But things are getting stranger. Talking Points Memo reported yesterday that there have been armed guards spotted on the third floor, where management works. The floor, it was reported, has now been closed to the rank and file.

More layoffs announced in 5...4...3...2...

re: #59 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Was that in 1934 or 1935?

2000.

re: #60 tradewind

I wonder, though, if she was more worried about the actual ownership change or how it was going to affect her ability to go postal on anything conservative or Republican...

From what I've heard and read over the years, it was the former.

re: #58 Cato the Elder

While we're all jumping up and making ourselves feel great by wishing a Happy Veterans' Day to military personnel past and present, may I just say that to the homeless vet whose regular post is the corner of Cold Spring Lane and Roland Avenue in Baltimore, those prayers and "thank yous" are cold comfort indeed. People, please look into what you can actually do for vets in need, because our vaunted system leaves many in the lurch. Iraq and Afghanistan vets with severe PTSD are being told they really had a "pre-existing condition" before they joined the service so the VA doesn't have to cover their care. The "nothing's too good for our men and women in uniform" line is often just that - a nice sentiment with little to back it up.

That the murderous Maj. Hasan, a fourth-rate doctor, could qualify as a military psychiatrist gives you some idea of how bad things are.

I agree 100%. I will make a minor quibble: The trope of the "homeless vet" is not 100% accurate. A lot of the homeless "vets" never served, while statistically, Vietnam vets did as well or better than WWII vets.

Down with religious cults. Pffiibbittth.™