FNC = Fox Nativist Channel

Seriously. Lou Dobbs'd be a cool new nic.

TPM was guessing he might go into politics. I'm sure the Tea Parties would endorse him.

still won't watch no TV...

re: #4 brookly red
I gave up on my tv too.

Lou!...come back!
classic western

re: #5 Killgore Trout

Not even Masterpiece Theater?

re: #4 brookly red

Me too... only thing I've got left to entertain me is Christmas music, and that's only good for another 43 days.

After that, I'll have to take up knitting.

re: #4 brookly red

still won't watch no TV...

no NFL?...whoa there

re: #5 Killgore Trout

I gave up on my tv too.

TV sucks.

TV IS GOOD!

re: #7 Sheepdogess

Not even Masterpiece Theater?

I always thought that show was not correctly named.

Dobbs is running for office ...

As the running mate of Palin in 2012 ...

TV heads...there is no cure

re: #5 Killgore Trout

I gave up on my tv too.

tomorrow I have an interview w/a cable network... *sigh*

Praise the orange head!

re: #15 brookly red

tomorrow I have an interview w/a cable network... *sigh*

so..you admit you're not a football fan?

re: #9 albusteve

no NFL?...whoa there

special dispensation : )

re: #15 brookly red

Whats the topic?

re: #10 Sharmuta

TV sucks.

99% of it does. But one percent is genius.

re: #17 albusteve

so..you admit you're not a football fan?

well I do hate the cowboys, does that count?

Well, the Times article only distorted a few points. I never bothered to listen to Dobbs radio program. Dobbs himself did not mention the Birth Certificate thingy on CNN -- it was a fill-in host who brought the topic up on CNN. And Dobbs was not "anti-immigration"; where is the evidence for that one? He was opposed to illegal immigration, as he repeatedly stated. so, again, the Lou Dobbs quotes citing his alleged anti-immigration remarks would add some weight to the alleged claims...I see this as yet further polarization; a further Manichean split in politics -- which basically consists in demonizing one's opponents while alleging oneself to be angelic and above reproach. (and all too sorry phenomenon -- re: 8 years of non-stop bush bashing.)

re: #21 brookly red

well I do hate the cowboys, does that count?

grrr...grrr

Liberals, tolerant of every opinion execpt those with which they disagree.

re: #24 Sheepdogess

Liberals, tolerant of every opinion execpt those with which they disagree.

Rolling my eyes right backatcha.

let's all get stupid

re: #10 Sharmuta

TV sucks.

I used to have a Kill Your Television bumpersticker. That was back before I finally broke down and bought cable tv. The kids had outgrown PBSKids, and there was nothing for their age on the broadcast channels anymore.

re: #26 albusteve

let's all get stupid

Get?

re: #26 albusteve

that's exactly it -- let's all listen to radical proclaimer voicing one's own personal biases -- yeah, that'll all educate us as per "the truth."

I'd thought that Dobbs reflected the nativist side of the Democrats. There is a wing of that party, (think unions) that hotly resents any immigrants except, perhaps, those who go on welfare and stay there.

Fox would be unwise to hire him. They have enough and then some of his kind of content as it is. We shall see.

re: #19 Rightwingconspirator

Whats the topic?

re: #26 albusteve

let's all get stupid

how much my hours are worth to them.

re: #27 The Sanity Inspector

They don't call it the idiot box for nothing.

stupid is the new pink

How does one dobb?

re: #30 lostlakehiker

There were, indeed, aspects of Lou Dobbs which (O Lo and Behold) didn't fit the Right wing paradigm -- ie., he was opposed to a U.s. military presence anywhere in the world...sounded likfe loony leftist talk.

re: #26 albusteve

let's all get stupid

. . . er

re: #34 jaunte

How does one dobb?

you want me banned?

re: #30 lostlakehiker

I'd thought that Dobbs reflected the nativist side of the Democrats. There is a wing of that party, (think unions) that hotly resents any immigrants except, perhaps, those who go on welfare and stay there.

Fox would be unwise to hire him. They have enough and then some of his kind of content as it is. We shall see.

Fox is already unwise...e don't have to wait and see...are you a TV addict?

Goodnight, John-Boy.

OH! FROM TV!

re: #22 J.S.

A common liberal tactic, to conflate anti-immigration with anti-illegal immigration views. All part of the grander strategy of recasting conservative thought as "hate". Actual hate excepted, of course.

re: #35 J.S.

There were, indeed, aspects of Lou Dobbs which (O Lo and Behold) didn't fit the Right wing paradigm -- ie., he was opposed to a U.s. military presence anywhere in the world...sounded likfe loony leftist talk.

For someone who is complaining of polarization, you sure like to pretend all the isolationism is on the left side of the fence. ;-)

re: #32 Sheepdogess

They don't call it the idiot box for nothing.

It's because I end up sitting around like an idiot until everyone else goes to bed, before I get my turn at the glass teat.

re: #32 Sheepdogess

They don't call it the idiot box for nothing.

We call it "the one eyed god" around here...

re: #40 The Sanity Inspector

exactly...it's oh so much easier to misrepresent your opponent's views, make up some straw man, then knock it down. Lou Dobbs repeatedly advised the government to enforce existing immigration laws (Oh! The Horror! The Horror! to think that existing laws needed to be enforced!Now That's Radical!)

re: #35 J.S.

There were, indeed, aspects of Lou Dobbs which (O Lo and Behold) didn't fit the Right wing paradigm -- ie., he was opposed to a U.s. military presence anywhere in the world...sounded likfe loony leftist talk.

There is a strong isolationist streak among the loony right as well, the Paulians for example.
Overt racists, like the CCC and Stormfront, are rabidly anti-war, considering it all some kind of evil Zionist conspiracy (just like the loony left).

re: #42 The Sanity Inspector

It's because I end up sitting around like an idiot until everyone else goes to bed, before I get my turn at the glass teat.

you could blog or something...

re: #35 J.S.

There were, indeed, aspects of Lou Dobbs which (O Lo and Behold) didn't fit the Right wing paradigm -- ie., he was opposed to a U.s. military presence anywhere in the world...sounded likfe loony leftist talk.

An anti-military right-winger? Sounds like he might land a gig at Taki's Magazine, then.

re:41
funny thing to say on the day Moveon declares war on nearly 50 Dem congressmen.

only extremists want the border closed and secured...only militants want control over who comes and goes through our borders...so I guess I'm a bigot, extremist, militant...how did that happen?

re: #46 brookly red

you could blog or something...

Or tweet. "I'm sitting in a swivel chair in my underwear, counting my fillings with my tongue."

re: #47 The Sanity Inspector

An anti-military right-winger? Sounds like he might land a gig at Taki's Magazine, then.

If that's the case, he'll fit in fine with the Paulians and Paleolibertarians.

re: #45 Shiplord Kirel

There are many strange and exotic forms of convergence -- the Loony Left (you'd have to live in Canada or another Leftist state to truly grasp it, i believe) combined with HAMAS, al-Qaeda types...yeah, now there's a merger...lol..

re: #49 albusteve

only extremists want the border closed and secured...only militants want control over who comes and goes through our borders...so I guess I'm a bigot, extremist, militant...how did that happen?

And who decided, when did we have a vote and agree, that the border is unenforceable?

re: #34 jaunte

How does one dobb?

It involves watching birdies.

re: #48 strotherm

re:41
funny thing to say on the day Moveon declares war on nearly 50 Dem congressmen.

Are they going to launch a blitzkrieg with their army of paper-mache tanks? Or was that Code Pink? A distinction without a difference I guess.

re: #48 strotherm

re:41
funny thing to say on the day Moveon declares war on nearly 50 Dem congressmen.

yes, because Moveon.org is totally the whole entire Democratic party and control everything they do!

/thisisasarctag Therearemanylikeitbutthisoneismine

re: #53 The Sanity Inspector

And who decided, when did we have a vote and agree, that the border is unenforceable?

/well for what we spent on stimulus we cuould have the world biggest moat

Dobbs is leaving CNN, but his fake hair and teeth are going to stay behind and pickup some weekend anchor shifts.

Speaking of liberals, I recently watched the movie Getting Straight with Elliot Gould and Candice Bergen, and it was every bit as infuriating as it was when I originally saw it in 1970.

The movie features a radical left-wing philosophy that left me practically shaking with rage back then, and I was considerably more liberal than I am now. The funniest thing about the movie is that most of the ultra-lib talking points that are in vogue right now were all in this movie, plain as day.

It's as if director Richard Rush was writing the future script for how the dems would behave 30-plus years later. Just don't let some moonbat tell you that they are the party of change, ok?

BTW, the movie is still crap, just in case you were wondering about that.

But then again - considering the shocking ineptitude of movies I've seen this year...

If Hollywood hasn't changed, then why should their favorite party change? Once something is pure rot, change isn't going to make any difference.

re: #53 The Sanity Inspector

And who decided, when did we have a vote and agree, that the border is unenforceable?

executive order I guess...I read the Constitution too...the feds have me all confused now...fuck them, no more money from me...I won't finance a belligerent govt that defies the rule of law

re: #49 albusteve
I know Dobbs is becoming a new rightwing sweetheart but he support extremist groups...

Dobbs: "I support the Minuteman Project and the fine Americans who make it up in all they've accomplished, fully, relentlessly, and proudly"

Oath Keepers founder on Lou Dobbs radio program
...and conspiracy theories...
Dobbs repeatedly makes Obama birth certificate claims his CNN colleagues call "total bull"
My humble suggestion is that conservatives should not support this crap but I guess now that it's mainstream in right wing circles there's not much we can do about it. It's damaging to the conservative cause. This stuff does far more damage to conservatism than ACORN and Obama combined. It's self inflicted.

Great! Now I can not watch him on Fox instead of just not watching him on CNN!

TV does suck. Elvis was on to something when he shot at them.

re: #61 Killgore Trout

Because an individual invites a person onto a program does not instantly translate into that person accepting the invited person's views. You need to establish that through the person's actual, stated views. Otherwise, becasue journalist X interviews Jihadist Y, that would then allow you to claim that journalist X supports Jihadist Y. it doesn't follow.

re: #22 J.S.

Dobbs himself did not mention the Birth Certificate thingy on CNN -- it was a fill-in host who brought the topic up on CNN.

Dobbs fill in host brought it up to say how utterly stupid it was and did a piece that showed the two newspaper announcements of Obama's birth in the Hawaiian newspapers. Along with the fact that the Republican Governor of Hawaii vouched for having seen and verified the certificate. Basically she only brought it up to laugh at the nirthers and call their conspiracy foundationless.

Lou came back on the next night and said that "there were legitimate questions" and "why doesn't the President just provide his birth certificate?" Lou spent the rest of that week and part of the next talking about the birth certificate at some point on every show until he was told to stop by his own boss. As a dedicated Lou watcher I was appalled because he was obviously going off the rails to pander to people who were not his regular audience.

You are mis-informed when you say Lou "did not mention it."

re: #58 bratwurst

Maybe they'll leave them for Larry King -- someone else way past his prime.

re: #61 Killgore Trout

I know Dobbs is becoming a new rightwing sweetheart but he support extremist groups...

Dobbs: "I support the Minuteman Project and the fine Americans who make it up in all they've accomplished, fully, relentlessly, and proudly"

Oath Keepers founder on Lou Dobbs radio program
...and conspiracy theories...
Dobbs repeatedly makes Obama birth certificate claims his CNN colleagues call "total bull"
My humble suggestion is that conservatives should not support this crap but I guess now that it's mainstream in right wing circles there's not much we can do about it. It's damaging to the conservative cause. This stuff does far more damage to conservatism than ACORN and Obama combined. It's self inflicted.

I could care less who Dobbs endorses...that's not the problem, so what's the big deal?...the problem is the feds refuse to control our borders...Dobbs is simply a reaction to that...you are focused on the secondary while the primary is left unchecked...I don't expect you to understand that tho because you are reactionary...you don't focus on solutions to problems, you spend all your energy raving about the people that are pissed about the problem

re: #59 really grumpy big dog Johnson

Speaking of liberals, I recently watched the movie Getting Straight with Elliot Gould and Candice Bergen, and it was every bit as infuriating as it was when I originally saw it in 1970.

The movie features a radical left-wing philosophy that left me practically shaking with rage back then, and I was considerably more liberal than I am now. The funniest thing about the movie is that most of the ultra-lib talking points that are in vogue right now were all in this movie, plain as day.

It's as if director Richard Rush was writing the future script for how the dems would behave 30-plus years later. Just don't let some moonbat tell you that they are the party of change, ok?

BTW, the movie is still crap, just in case you were wondering about that.

But then again - considering the shocking ineptitude of movies I've seen this year...

If Hollywood hasn't changed, then why should their favorite party change? Once something is pure rot, change isn't going to make any difference.

Yeah, Big, there does seem to be a lot of mold, mildew, and moth droppings to be found on loony media-left ideology these days.
This might be why they are losing ground to the loony media-right. I mean, how many 70 year old hippies counter-culture adherents are there who haven't gotten that "real world" memo yet? More importantly, from the media POV, how good a target audience are they?

re: #64 ausador

O well, must have missed it. One cannot view all programs at all times. Or be at all places at all times. I just think that the further pigeon-holing of politics is extremely problematic. Not everyone states 100 percent correct views -- no one is perfect -- there will be points of view which diverge from one's own -- just as Lou Dobbs stated many views which I personally do not share nor adhere to, nor for that matter, believe. However, to characterize Lou Dobbs as some flaming ultra-radical right-winger in need of banishment is, imo, a mischaracterization (but it follows if you're interested in hearing only a very, very, very narrow range of political views.)

Doorman: Good afternoon, Mr. Beale.
Howard Beale: I MUST MAKE MY WITNESS.
Doorman: Sure thing, Mr. Beale.

re: #59 really grumpy big dog Johnson

I saw that movie back then and the two things I remember are seeing everything in green and the end (I think) where Gould picks up and throws a rock.
As far as the left's talking points not changing, here's a 1948 cartoon, albeit somewhat corny, that has a few relevant points vis-a-vis today's issues.

re: #63 J.S.

Listen to the interviews. He supports these extreme and potentially violent groups.

re: #66 albusteve

I could care less who Dobbs endorses...that's not the problem, so what's the big deal?...the problem is the feds refuse to control our borders...Dobbs is simply a reaction to that...you are focused on the secondary while the primary is left unchecked...I don't expect you to understand that tho because you are reactionary...you don't focus on solutions to problems, you spend all your energy raving about the people that are pissed about the problem

My solutions to problems don't include militant racists or anti-government militias. Period.

A problem that I have with Dobb's "resignation" is that with it I get a confirmation that CNN is just as guilty as any other news organization that has been accused of bias. There is truly no network or cable news organization that I trust to bring me unbiased news. None.

re: #71 Killgore Trout

Listen to the interviews. He supports these extreme and potentially violent groups.

so what?...there will always be raving lunatics in any party...there are problems to be solved...Lou Dobbs is a TV pundit and has nothing to do with the problem...he merely talks about it

As I was saying...

re: #4 Naso Tang

Lou Dobbs going to FOX??

re: #73 DoobieBro

again, that's it exactly. It's becoming increasingly biased and politicized and polarized...(all of which I veiw as deterimental to the civic body).

re: #73 DoobieBro

A problem that I have with Dobb's "resignation" is that with it I get a confirmation that CNN is just as guilty as any other news organization that has been accused of bias. There is truly no network or cable news organization that I trust to bring me unbiased news. None.

There never was. All that the blogs and new media did was expose that fact to the public. =)

re: #74 albusteve

I get what you're saying. The same standards should also apply to those that openly support the far-left groups (and I DO include moveon.org and the ilk) yet they get a pass for their open support.

re: #72 Killgore Trout

My solutions to problems don't include militant racists or anti-government militias. Period.

big whoop, mine either...why does it bother you so much that Dobbs has other ideas?...so what is your solution to an open border?...do you see a problem with a virtually unenforced border?

If Dobbs is going to Fox, who is actually left at CNN that anyone wants to watch? CNN's viewership continues declining against Fox (or MSNBC or CNBC or even the Travel Channel). They've got to do something to get back into the ratings game.

As for Dobbs' himself, I could care less which network he's on since I have never watched his show (and I don't watch any of the cable news shows (or op-shows/vanity shows, which is really what most of them are because the news is secondary to hearing their opinions).

re: #59 really grumpy big dog Johnson

Hollywood is in decline.

I fully expect to see Adam Sandler win a Best Actor Oscar in 2017 for his compassionate portrayal of Mussolini in the film "Dictators Gone Wild Part 2"

re: #74 albusteve

so what?...there will always be raving lunatics in any party...there are problems to be solved...Lou Dobbs is a TV pundit and has nothing to do with the problem...he merely talks about it

This blog has become famous partially for calling out news organizations when they lie and deceive and elevate crazy crap. And it attracts commenters who are also interested in same.

re: #79 albusteve

big whoop, mine either...why does it bother you so much that Dobbs has other ideas?...so what is your solution to an open border?...do you see a problem with a virtually unenforced border?

I liked Rudy's national ID card.

re: #80 lawhawk

Well, obviously, if one were to start to list the programs that are watchable at CNN, they would instantly be put on the "hit list" -- they'd be gone in no time...

It looks like the newest Southpark episode is doing a Glenn Beck parody.

re: #81 Racer X

Hollywood is in decline.

I fully expect to see Adam Sandler win a Best Actor Oscar in 2017 for his compassionate portrayal of Mussolini in the film "Dictators Gone Wild Part 2"

Nothing would make me happier (and I'm a liberal) than for Hollywood to no longer be the locus of control for filmmaking and television production in America.

re: #86 WindUpBird

yeah..that means you're a conservative in Canada.

re: #85 Dreader1962

It looks like the newest Southpark episode is doing a Glenn Beck parody.

Yep, definitely a Glenn Beck parody.

re: #83 Killgore Trout

I liked Rudy's national ID card.

I can just see how that will go over with the ends of the loony spectrum; that is, where they meet at the back.
The noise from popping heads would be deafening.

re: #88 Dreader1962

Heh, I'll have to check that out.

re: #81 Racer X

Hollywood is in decline.

I fully expect to see Adam Sandler win a Best Actor Oscar in 2017 for his compassionate portrayal of Mussolini in the film "Dictators Gone Wild Part 2"

I would actually pay money to see that.

Tonight's South Park is awesome. Lampooning Glenn Beck w00t!

re: #87 J.S.

yeah..that means you're a conservative in Canada.

Portland Fucking Oregon, dude. :) We have our own filmmaking scene here, and it doesn't need any overpaid faces that hide in their trailers.

this constant complaining and whining about what some guy says on television serves no purpose except to justify somebodies alternet point of view...fine, I got it...now, what do we do to solve the problem?...America did not get to where it is by focusing on marginal talkers and hand wringers...isolate the problem, find a solution and fix it...all this other bullshit finger pointing, Beck said this, Dobbs said that...is just not productive...all that is for squabblers and selfish idealists

A new commentator?

re: #90 Killgore Trout

Heh, I'll have to check that out.

Cartman is of course Beck - he just did a chalkboard 'proof' that Wendy (the school president) wants to K-I-L-L S-M-U-R-F-S.

re: #93 WindUpBird

Canada right now is pissed that the Canadian dollar is so high right now -- it prevents the Hollywood types from doing their films up here (too expensive.)

re: #82 WindUpBird

This blog has become famous partially for calling out news organizations when they lie and deceive and elevate crazy crap. And it attracts commenters who are also interested in same.

wow...I didn't even know that

So, President Obama has rejected all the troop options presented to him by his national security team. He's going to go his own route and may come to a decision in the next couple of weeks.

It is real lonely at the top. His continued delays and obfuscations as to what he intends to do on Afghan troop levels suggests serious indecision and while some will try to spin this as thoughtful consideration, the inability to take decisive action in a timely fashion (it's been months since he promised to review the troop level issue, and Afghan options overall) can have serious repercussions on the battlefield and affect readiness and combat effectiveness because troops aren't there that could help repel Taliban advances in parts of the country.

Make no mistake, the indecision is something that our nation's enemies are studying closely and they will exploit them. It's what enemies do. They aren't going to sit back and wait; they're going to put their plans into action because they see an indecisive leader who is more than willing to defer and talk to enemies and restrain allies than support allies in a global conflict that seeks to attack US and its allies strategic and tactical interests.

re: #4 brookly red

still won't watch no TV...

Amen amayn ameen sit so sei es, brother.

I haven't watched teevee for over a year. You have no idea, the liberation.

re: #98 albusteve

wow...I didn't even know that

Ah'm jes' sayin, one of the reasons I'm here and I like the company is the focus on media behaving badly. Left wing media, right wing media, all oxes be gored.

re: #94 albusteve

I agree. It gets away from that American "can-do" spirit. (this has also been a major criticism -- and an appropriate one, in my view -- of the Republican party -- they've failed to put together some positive alternative with respect to health care, etc. They're really lacking in positive, policy initiatives.)

re: #100 Cato the Elder

Amen amayn ameen sit so sei es, brother.

I haven't watched teevee for over a year. You have no idea, the liberation.

Oh but I do...

re: #83 Killgore Trout

I liked Rudy's national ID card.

I did too...it seems simple enough for a start...who's here and who isn't

re: #99 lawhawk

So, President Obama has rejected all the troop options presented to him by his national security team. He's going to go his own route and may come to a decision in the next couple of weeks.

It is real lonely at the top. His continued delays and obfuscations as to what he intends to do on Afghan troop levels suggests serious indecision and while some will try to spin this as thoughtful consideration, the inability to take decisive action in a timely fashion (it's been months since he promised to review the troop level issue, and Afghan options overall) can have serious repercussions on the battlefield and affect readiness and combat effectiveness because troops aren't there that could help repel Taliban advances in parts of the country.

Make no mistake, the indecision is something that our nation's enemies are studying closely and they will exploit them. It's what enemies do. They aren't going to sit back and wait; they're going to put their plans into action because they see an indecisive leader who is more than willing to defer and talk to enemies and restrain allies than support allies in a global conflict that seeks to attack US and its allies strategic and tactical interests.

PRESENT!

re: #99 lawhawk

So, President Obama has rejected all the troop options presented to him by his national security team. He's going to go his own route and may come to a decision in the next couple of weeks.

It is real lonely at the top. His continued delays and obfuscations as to what he intends to do on Afghan troop levels suggests serious indecision and while some will try to spin this as thoughtful consideration, the inability to take decisive action in a timely fashion (it's been months since he promised to review the troop level issue, and Afghan options overall) can have serious repercussions on the battlefield and affect readiness and combat effectiveness because troops aren't there that could help repel Taliban advances in parts of the country.

Make no mistake, the indecision is something that our nation's enemies are studying closely and they will exploit them. It's what enemies do. They aren't going to sit back and wait; they're going to put their plans into action because they see an indecisive leader who is more than willing to defer and talk to enemies and restrain allies than support allies in a global conflict that seeks to attack US and its allies strategic and tactical interests.

So that 40,000 report was indeed bullshit?

re: #99 lawhawk

that's another thing which bothers me -- there are real enemies of the United States -- not nice people -- and, no, they're not Lou Dobbs.

re: #73 DoobieBro

The three most important things my dad told me, not necessarilly in this order...

1. Keep your eyes open and your legs shut.

2. All news is biased.

3. The commies are bad, but it's the "religious fanatics from the middle east you need to fear". He said it in 1975.

re: #93 WindUpBird

Portland Fucking Oregon, dude. :) We have our own filmmaking scene here, and it doesn't need any overpaid faces that hide in their trailers.

woop ti do...they have been making movies in NM for nearly a hundred years

re: #104 albusteve

Alan Dershowitz is another advocate of the national ID card.

re: #99 lawhawk

thanks for that Lawhawk

re: #99 lawhawk

So, President Obama has rejected all the troop options presented to him by his national security team. He's going to go his own route and may come to a decision in the next couple of weeks.

It is real lonely at the top. His continued delays and obfuscations as to what he intends to do on Afghan troop levels suggests serious indecision and while some will try to spin this as thoughtful consideration, the inability to take decisive action in a timely fashion (it's been months since he promised to review the troop level issue, and Afghan options overall) can have serious repercussions on the battlefield and affect readiness and combat effectiveness because troops aren't there that could help repel Taliban advances in parts of the country.

Make no mistake, the indecision is something that our nation's enemies are studying closely and they will exploit them. It's what enemies do. They aren't going to sit back and wait; they're going to put their plans into action because they see an indecisive leader who is more than willing to defer and talk to enemies and restrain allies than support allies in a global conflict that seeks to attack US and its allies strategic and tactical interests.

So we have a Commander in Chief who won't command?

Mandy - Please insert your quote here:

Wow. The US Naval Academy added a female cadet to their honor guard, to reflect the Academy's diversity. RSM's guest blogger Smitty deplores the move, saying that it is a "diluted form of the institutional falsehood" that led to the Ft. Hood rampage. Dio santo, as Toscanini used to say... No cached version available yet.

re: #99 lawhawk

So, President Obama has rejected all the troop options presented to him by his national security team. He's going to go his own route and may come to a decision in the next couple of weeks.

It is real lonely at the top. His continued delays and obfuscations as to what he intends to do on Afghan troop levels suggests serious indecision and while some will try to spin this as thoughtful consideration, the inability to take decisive action in a timely fashion (it's been months since he promised to review the troop level issue, and Afghan options overall) can have serious repercussions on the battlefield and affect readiness and combat effectiveness because troops aren't there that could help repel Taliban advances in parts of the country.

Make no mistake, the indecision is something that our nation's enemies are studying closely and they will exploit them. It's what enemies do. They aren't going to sit back and wait; they're going to put their plans into action because they see an indecisive leader who is more than willing to defer and talk to enemies and restrain allies than support allies in a global conflict that seeks to attack US and its allies strategic and tactical interests.

uhhh, present.

not.

re: #109 albusteve

woop ti do...they have been making movies in NM for nearly a hundred years

yes, but does New Mexico have its own critically acclaimed stop-motion animation studio?

re: #20 WindUpBird

99% of it does. But one percent is genius.

"Go Team Venture!"
"Yeah, they do that..."

Good evening, lizards.

re: #56 WindUpBird

yes, because Moveon.org is totally the whole entire Democratic party and control everything they do!

/thisisasarctag Therearemanylikeitbutthisoneismine

And that was a good one!
*fistbump*

re: #116 Varek Raith

"Go Team Venture!"
"Yeah, they do that..."

Good evening, lizards.

"Hank, I will give you SO MUCH MONEY if you don't shoot your dad!"

I'm not happy with BO at all, but I am especially sensitive about how he handles his commitment in Afghanistan...to me, this will define his presidency...it's life and death over there...and thanks again Lawhawk for keeping abreast of the situation...

I'm out like Buster Mathis

re: #99 lawhawk

JFK appeared indecisive early in his Presidency, and Khrushchev pressed him hard. It took the Cuban missile crisis to reveal the inner fortitude he had. Let's hope Obama has something in the well to draw from too, when the time comes.

re: #113 The Sanity Inspector

RSM's guest blogger Smitty deplores the move...

RSM? Who is that?

re: #103 brookly red

Oh but I do...

Well I guess you would, at that! My IQ shot up to unknown reaches within weeks. And the amount of actual work and reading I get done now bears no compare with the paucity before giving up the idiot box...

re: #112 Cheechako

So we have a Commander in Chief who won't command?

Mandy - Please insert your quote here:

Why? No one cares.

re: #73 DoobieBro

A problem that I have with Dobb's "resignation" is that with it I get a confirmation that CNN is just as guilty as any other news organization that has been accused of bias. There is truly no network or cable news organization that I trust to bring me unbiased news. None.

You can trust LGF, the rest is all biased...

re: #120 The Sanity Inspector

JFK's friends were sane.

re: #121 abolitionist

RSM? Who is that?

Robert Stacy McCain. Neo nazi scumbag extraordinaire.

re: #123 MandyManners

I care.

re: #112 Cheechako

I didn't mean to insult you. If I did, I apologize.

re: #123 MandyManners

Why? No one cares.

Sadly, very sadly, I have to agree.

re: #124 Floral Giraffe

I don't trust anyone. Anywhere.

What if anything in Obama's background prepares him to make his own plan. Did he even study any battle plans in college? Any history?

Maybe he is trying to create a liability-proof war plan.

re: #122 Cato the Elder

Well I guess you would, at that! My IQ shot up to unknown reaches within weeks. And the amount of actual work and reading I get done now bears no compare with the paucity before giving up the idiot box...

and just think of all the attention whores you are dissing...

re: #127 Racer X

I HOPE THAT EVERYONE WHO REFUSED TO VOTE FOR MCCAIN BECAUSE HE WAS NOT CONSERVATIVE ENOUGH IS FUCKING HAPPY NOW.

re: #130 TheMatrix31

well, yeah. but isn't that pretty much a given?

But how does Lou Dobbs fit in with Murdoch's "Babes Delivering News" motif?

They might have to hire a few hotties to balance it out.

(Thanks, Charles)

re: #92 wiffersnapper

Tonight's South Park is awesome. Lampooning Glenn Beck w00t!

To be fair, Glen Beck is a very easy target

BTW,

Hey
Evening Lizards!

How are you-all?

re: #133 MandyManners

I HOPE THAT EVERYONE WHO REFUSED TO VOTE FOR MCCAIN BECAUSE HE WAS NOT CONSERVATIVE ENOUGH IS FUCKING HAPPY NOW.

Thank you. I feel better now.

re: #99 lawhawk

... decisive action in a timely fashion (it's been months since he promised to review the troop level issue, ...

The current US military operation in Afghanistan has been going on for 8 years.

With people to the left of him and paleo-cons to the right of him screaming in his ear to pull out of Afghanistan, I suggest that the big problem facing President Obama isn't an exact number of troops to deploy or what equipment to send.

Rather, the issue at hand is how to sell to an American public the idea that we will have to spend considerably more resources and time (probably years) on a military goal that has already become the longest hot conflict in American history.

re: #133 MandyManners

I HOPE THAT EVERYONE WHO REFUSED TO VOTE FOR MCCAIN BECAUSE HE WAS NOT CONSERVATIVE ENOUGH IS FUCKING HAPPY NOW.

We love you, Mandy.

re: #123 MandyManners

Why? No one cares.

The new, improved:

I hope all of you who voted for John McCain are fucking embarrassed now.

re: #136 Dark_Falcon

To be fair, Glen Beck is a very easy target

heh, Glenn Beck is getting off easy compared to what they've done to Barbara Streisand and Britney Spears! *shudder*

re: #139 freetoken

The current US military operation in Afghanistan has been going on for 8 years.

With people to the left of him and paleo-cons to the right of him screaming in his ear to pull out of Afghanistan, I suggest that the big problem facing President Obama isn't an exact number of troops to deploy or what equipment to send.

Rather, the issue at hand is how to sell to an American public the idea that we will have to spend considerably more resources and time (probably years) on a military goal that has already become the longest hot conflict in American history.

Somehow, I think the average voter understands that. It's the freakin' intellectuals who don't.

re: #142 WindUpBird

heh, Glenn Beck is getting off easy compared to what they've done to Barbara Streisand and Britney Spears! *shudder*

Did you just call Britney Spears "easy"?

re: #125 Sheepdogess

JFK's friends were sane.

And perhaps as important, his enemies (the Soviets) were too.

re: #142 WindUpBird

heh, Glenn Beck is getting off easy compared to what they've done to Barbara Streisand and Britney Spears! *shudder*

Or the Sea Shepards. Though, that was still rather tame... Funny, though.

re: #133 MandyManners

You just watch - this will be the 47th time that comment makes it into the top ten.

re: #147 Racer X

You just watch - this will be the 47th time that comment makes it into the top ten.

I did my part.

re: #110 J.S.

Alan Dershowitz is another advocate of the national ID card.

Every time it comes up the R.R. crowd goes off the deep end, all the "mark of the beast" paranoia and hysteria. The fact that it has nothing to do with the scriptural description of the mark or the fact that the mark isn't required until halfway through the tribulation (3 1/2 years after the rapture) according to their own interpretation of the scriptures seems to be meaningless to them. Of course they never were strong on logic were they?

re: #123 MandyManners

Why? No one cares.

Checks Mandy's karma... Let's not be hasty, saying that.

re: #128 MandyManners

I wish you were my neighbor.

re: #145 abolitionist

And perhaps as important, his enemies (the Soviets) were too.

But they're committed ideologues, they don't value human life the way we do, they're capable of anything, their followers are completely brainwashed...

Wait. That was my childhood. We've since learned that the Sovs were basically rational, and not all the powerful.

Not sure if that's a case of hindsight, or if we're just comparing them now to the new, better crazies we're facing down.

re: #149 ausador

wow. I never heard of that one...lol...yeah, not strong on "logic" (among other things, I guess..) (I was just thinking, if you want to really learn how to become a skeptic...study the Talmud.)

re: #108 Sheepdogess

The three most important things my dad told me, not necessarilly in this order...

1. Keep your eyes open and your legs shut.

2. All news is biased.

3. The commies are bad, but it's the "religious fanatics from the middle east you need to fear". He said it in 1975.

My grandfather was Frank, goddamnedfrank in my grandmother's fluid Kentucky drawl. My nick is a play on that and my drive to be honest above all else. Frank was an upholsterer by trade, and for the later half of his career his job was teaching Oregon felons his craft in the state prison upholstery program. He felt that I only needed to hear one important lesson in life, past performance matters.

re: #133 MandyManners

Huh? Did you say something?

re: #155 ausador

Huh? Did you say something?

I like your avatar.

Ok, life is interfering with my LGF time again.

hope to log-on later.

re: #135 Noam Sayin'

But how does Lou Dobbs fit in with Murdoch's "Babes Delivering News" motif?

They might have to hire a few hotties to balance it out.

These ladies might be available.

re: #147 Racer X

You just watch - this will be the 47th time that comment makes it into the top ten.

Oh, stop. Maybe 10 times. I don't know I don't keep count.

re: #156 ggt

I like your avatar.

Me too. Teh cuteness.

I still can't get any avatar to upload properly. I will be a green football forever.

BTW, whatever happened to that weird graphic Charles used to have up, with the guy riding the scared looking beastie? What WAS that, and why did he take it down?

*going off into a corner*

re: #142 WindUpBird
manBearPig AlGore is one of the best.

re: #152 SanFranciscoZionist

But they're committed ideologues, they don't value human life the way we do, they're capable of anything, their followers are completely brainwashed...

Wait. That was my childhood. We've since learned that the Sovs were basically rational, and not all the powerful.

Not sure if that's a case of hindsight, or if we're just comparing them now to the new, better crazies we're facing down.

A lot of the evil the Soviets did has disappeared down the memory hole. Left wing academics who are writing the histories insist that they weren't that bad, or the U.S. was as bad, or both. And so the grass grows thicker over the forgotten mass graves that dot the former USSR.

re: #149 ausador

Every time it comes up the R.R. crowd goes off the deep end, all the "mark of the beast" paranoia and hysteria. The fact that it has nothing to do with the scriptural description of the mark or the fact that the mark isn't required until halfway through the tribulation (3 1/2 years after the rapture) according to their own interpretation of the scriptures seems to be meaningless to them. Of course they never were strong on logic were they?

You got that right. When people refuse to have their children vaccinated for fear the government is secretly injecting them with microchips, it's a safe bet they won't accept a national id card.

re: #154 goddamnedfrank
Sometimes proving a point is just... overrated.

re: #158 The Sanity Inspector

These ladies might be available.

Daaammnnn! Teh hot is everywhere!
/ducks

re: #160 SanFranciscoZionist

Me too. Teh cuteness.

I still can't get any avatar to upload properly. I will be a green football forever.

Try uploading it to photobucket or something, and linking to it via the http widget.

And I wont forget the men who died,
who gave that right to me.

And I gladly stand up,
next to you and defend her still today.
‘Cause there ain’t no doubt I love this land,
God bless the USA.

re: #164 Shiplord Kirel

You got that right. When people refuse to have their children vaccinated for fear the government is secretly injecting them with microchips, it's a safe bet they won't accept a national id card.

Speaking of which, the nutty-o-sphere is latching onto the Ukranian outbreak:

... as part of the great conspiracy.

Good evening LGF.
I enjoy Lou Dobbs, and I often find myself rooting for him to finally spit out whatever thought he happens to be struggling to express.

re: #160 SanFranciscoZionist

Me too. Teh cuteness.

I still can't get any avatar to upload properly. I will be a green football forever.

BTW, whatever happened to that weird graphic Charles used to have up, with the guy riding the scared looking beastie? What WAS that, and why did he take it down?

Find a 90x90 or 100x100 pixel .jpg avatar, "save picture as" it to your desktop, then upload it from there. Should be no problem, if there is a problem momentarily disable your anti-virus/firewall and see if it doesn't work then.

re: #120 The Sanity Inspector

I've read Reflections on the Cuban Missile Crisis by Raymond Garthoff and also looked into JFK's handling of the Bay of Pigs. He was sorely tested, and we came within hours of a shooting war with the Soviets; thankfully cooler heads prevailed and both countries were able to step back from the brink.

That was a shooting war that could quite easily have resulted in nuclear exchanges. Those were the stakes.

Obama faces stakes that are no less serious here. He's dealing with rogue regimes like North Korea and Iran, neither of which is going to adhere to mutually assured destruction - a reason that the US and Soviets backed away from the brink in the Cuban Missile Crisis. He's dealing with terrorists who think nothing of sacrificing themselves to kill thousands (or more).

re: #139 freetoken

Obama tried to sell the nation before the election on the idea that he was willing to fight the war in Afghanistan because it was the good fight; that we had taken the ball off fighting AQ by going into Iraq, etc. Now, the truth is that he's not willing to put his money where his mouth was and reveals himself once again to have put an expiration date on his promises and statements.

Where are the principled stands we've been told he has? If sending more troops is a political decision, so too is withdrawing; so too is ceding a battlefield where AQ and its allies in the Taliban are busy operating. AQ and the Taliban remain threats to US national security and strategic and tactical interests.

They threaten Pakistan as well, and yet Obama's dithering is allowing the Taliban time and space in which to operate. If it is a matter of not having troop numbers, that can be addressed by growing the size of the military (and yes, that's a jobs program I think many would support since it actually goes to national defense and a core function of the federal government). Instead, Obama is looking for ways to exit from international obligations.

re: #122 Cato the Elder

My IQ shot up to unknown reaches within weeks.

Well, it did give you one of the best straight-man lines ever...

re: #154 goddamnedfrank
My grandfather was Frank too. He was a butcher. He taught me all about short ribs. Yum. He was the wisest man I have ever known.

I wish I knew how to upholster. I could be employed now. It's sad the trades...well I could go on forever on this topic but I wouldn't want to offend the PHD's.

The winter garden

re: #170 Spare O'Lake

Good evening LGF.
I enjoy Lou Dobbs, and I often find myself rooting for him to finally spit out whatever thought he happens to be struggling to express.

Well, that sound better than my experience with Glenn Beck, which usually ends with me screaming "get to the point, Glenn! Get to the damn point!"

re: #160 SanFranciscoZionist

i believe it was a Cox & Forkum cartoon...had some copyright thing going there (?)...don't know.

re: #160 SanFranciscoZionist
I believe that was a masked creature riding a camel, no ?

re: #172 lawhawk

I've read Reflections on the Cuban Missile Crisis by Raymond Garthoff and also looked into JFK's handling of the Bay of Pigs. He was sorely tested, and we came within hours of a shooting war with the Soviets; thankfully cooler heads prevailed and both countries were able to step back from the brink.

That was a shooting war that could quite easily have resulted in nuclear exchanges. Those were the stakes.

Obama faces stakes that are no less serious here. He's dealing with rogue regimes like North Korea and Iran, neither of which is going to adhere to mutually assured destruction - a reason that the US and Soviets backed away from the brink in the Cuban Missile Crisis. He's dealing with terrorists who think nothing of sacrificing themselves to kill thousands (or more).

re: #139 freetoken

Obama tried to sell the nation before the election on the idea that he was willing to fight the war in Afghanistan because it was the good fight; that we had taken the ball off fighting AQ by going into Iraq, etc. Now, the truth is that he's not willing to put his money where his mouth was and reveals himself once again to have put an expiration date on his promises and statements.

Where are the principled stands we've been told he has? If sending more troops is a political decision, so too is withdrawing; so too is ceding a battlefield where AQ and its allies in the Taliban are busy operating. AQ and the Taliban remain threats to US national security and strategic and tactical interests.

They threaten Pakistan as well, and yet Obama's dithering is allowing the Taliban time and space in which to operate. If it is a matter of not having troop numbers, that can be addressed by growing the size of the military (and yes, that's a jobs program I think many would support since it actually goes to national defense and a core function of the federal government). Instead, Obama is looking for ways to exit from international obligations.

Oh, good God almighty.

re: #170 Spare O'Lake

tonight Lou Dobbs did have a chance to mention that apparently the Mayor of chicago (have to pronounce that as per a French accent - that's CHEEK-a-go), Mayor Dayley, blamed the Fort Hood rampage on gun nuts -- as the CHEEK-a-go Mayor was touring an Arabic language school he made some disparaging remarks about Americans and guns...(that's Toronto Star boiler-plate material).

re: #178 tradewind

I believe that was a masked creature riding a camel, no ?

I was never clear on what the animal was.

re: #5 Killgore Trout

I gave up on my tv too.

I don't watch TV, except for the sports playoff games.

re: #180 J.S.

tonight Lou Dobbs did have a chance to mention that apparently the Mayor of chicago (have to pronounce that as per a French accent - that's CHEEK-a-go), Mayor Dayley, blamed the Fort Hood rampage on gun nuts -- as the CHEEK-a-go Mayor was touring an Arabic language school he made some disparaging remarks about Americans and guns...(that's Toronto Star boiler-plate material).

Yep, Daley shamed his city with that line. Trying to avoid the Islam angle, deflecting responsibility away from the killer, and blaming America for the murders: Richard M Daley hit the Anti-American Leftist Trifecta.

re: #171 ausador

Find a 90x90 or 100x100 pixel .jpg avatar, "save picture as" it to your desktop, then upload it from there. Should be no problem, if there is a problem momentarily disable your anti-virus/firewall and see if it doesn't work then.

Charles has said before that LGF ain't Flickr. Still, wouldn't it be cool to be able to have bigger avatars? Maybe even animated avatars? I've got some cued up and ready to go, if that day ever comes.

re: #183 Dark_Falcon

but where, o where, will this ever be mentioned? Oh, perish the thought! why it simply didn't occur.

AUGUST 17, 2009
Obama Says Afghan War 'of Necessity'

09/28/2009
US Foreign Policy Expert Richard Haass on Afghanistan
'This Is No Longer a War of Necessity'

October 3, 2009
Why Obama is rethinking 'war of necessity'

re: #184 The Sanity Inspector
I think it's fine if people want to do avatars, but any bigger and they'd be a distraction. They can really clutter up a joint if not kept small.

re: #184 The Sanity Inspector

Charles has said before that LGF ain't Flickr. Still, wouldn't it be cool to be able to have bigger avatars? Maybe even animated avatars? I've got some cued up and ready to go, if that day ever comes.

The larger the avatar, the more disk space required and longer load time.

re: #186 Mich-again

Necessity goes under the bus.

re: #175 Killgore Trout

The winter garden

Is REINE HERE???

re: #189 tradewind

"But we must never forget. This is not a war of choice," he told the VFW crowd. "This is a war of necessity. Those who attacked America on 9/11 are plotting to do so again."

re: #73 DoobieBro

A problem that I have with Dobb's "resignation" is that with it I get a confirmation that CNN is just as guilty as any other news organization that has been accused of bias. There is truly no network or cable news organization that I trust to bring me unbiased news. None.

re: #73 DoobieBro

In the link above, the NYT article quotes a CNN spokesperson calling CNN and Doobs members of the advocacy journalism profession. They (MSM, Fox, etc.) are all in the advocacy business, not news reporting.

re: #187 tradewind

I think it's fine if people want to do avatars, but any bigger and they'd be a distraction. They can really clutter up a joint if not kept small.

Yes, I'd have to re-size mine. But even upping the limit here to postage stamp size would be nice.

re: #88 Dreader1962

Yep, definitely a Glenn Beck parody.

Funny stuff...

"...or did she. I just asking questions."

re: #185 J.S.

but where, o where, will this ever be mentioned? Oh, perish the thought! why it simply didn't occur.

Even if Dobbs is no longer on the air, Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity will still bring stuff like this to light. Flawed though those two are, they aren't asshats like Beck.

re: #183 Dark_Falcon
There's an agenda behind his a-hole-ness. Daley is trying to protect his arab language program for the Chicago public schools.
/not a joke/.

re: #190 Floral Giraffe

Is REINE HERE???

I just emailed that to her, because the code is if she dings it, she saw it and is putting it on the cookbook blog. If not, I'm supposed to email her, so I did.

re: #195 Dark_Falcon

Well, I don't have access to Fox News...(not part of the cable channel package here -- probably have a better chance of getting al-Jazeerah or al Manar than FOX news.)

re: #186 Mich-again

AUGUST 17, 2009
Obama Says Afghan War 'of Necessity'

09/28/2009
US Foreign Policy Expert Richard Haass on Afghanistan
'This Is No Longer a War of Necessity'

October 3, 2009
Why Obama is rethinking 'war of necessity'

While Obama endlessly dithers,
American superpower status withers.

re: #172 lawhawk

You've made no secret of your dislike of President Obama... but whatever one thinks of him, I suggest again that the big problem facing any American President in this situation can be summarized here:

[Link: pewresearch.org...]

[...]
Half of Americans say U.S. and NATO troops should remain in Afghanistan until the situation has stabilized, while 43% want them removed as soon as possible. By contrast, majorities in France (61%), Italy (56%), Germany (54%) and Britain (54%) say troops should be withdrawn, as do roughly half in Spain (48%). [...]

With only half the country behind you on a war, and your allies leaning to backing out, the issue now becomes on re-selling the war, not the details.

BREAKING: U.S. Deports Lou Dobbs

WANTAGE, NJ—Acting on anonymous tips from within the Hispanic-American community, U.S. Customs and Border Protection officials on Wednesday deported Luis Miguel Salvador Aguila Dominguez, who has been living illegally in the United States under the name Lou Dobbs for 48 years.

According to the Department of Homeland Security, federal agents stormed the undocumented immigrant’s home in an evening raid just hours after the 64-year-old newscaster suddenly announced that he was resigning from CNN, and immediately placed him on an Aeromexico flight departing from Newark Liberty Airport.

The Onion will continue to report on this breaking news.

re: #197 Sharmuta

HAH!
I did the same thing.
That KT, isn't escaping form us!
LOL!

( I really enjoy his links. They're fun to read.)

re: #200 freetoken

and, you're aware, of couse, of Gordon Brown's latest sterling efforts on behalf of the "war effort" ...
/

re: #195 Dark_Falcon

Even if Dobbs is no longer on the air, Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity will still bring stuff like this to light. Flawed though those two are, they aren't asshats like Beck.

I really enjoy your comments don't take this as snark, but isn't that kind of damning with faint praise?

re: #196 tradewind

There's an agenda behind his a-hole-ness. Daley is trying to protect his arab language program for the Chicago public schools.
/not a joke/.

Yeah, well fuck that (excuse my French). If getting the program you want means kowtowing to those who hate America, then that program isn't worth having.

re: #199 Spare O'Lake

While Obama endlessly dithers,
American superpower status withers.

Jesse Jackson would call it "The paralysis of analysis"

re: #204 goddamnedfrank

I really enjoy your comments don't take this as snark, but isn't that kind of damning with faint praise?

To a small extent, yes it is. But those two do report angles the MSM won't report, and that makes them useful.

re: #205 Dark_Falcon

Yeah, well fuck that (excuse my French). If getting the program you want means kowtowing to those who hate America, then that program isn't worth having.

Fuck Daley...

re: #199 Spare O'Lake

While Obama endlessly dithers,
American superpower status withers.

In case you really haven't noticed, it's a new world, and the American Empire is no longer what the Roman was when I was a senator.

re: #206 Mich-again

Jesse Jackson would call it "The paralysis of analysis"

And, just for fun, Jesse Jackson has accomplished, exactly WHAT in his life? Let's discuss his "paralysis" after we discuss his accomplishments.

re: #199 Spare O'Lake

While Obama endlessly dithers,
American superpower status withers.

That could almost be a Burma Shave sign.

re: #201 brucee

:D

Awesome.

As for "superpowers" and being the only one, the sooner that ends, the better.

re: #208 stuck in california

Fuck Daley...

Assuming the Saudis are funding this language program, Daley should have followed Guliani's post-9/11 example and told them to take their hate of America, wrap the check around it, and then shove the combination where the Sun don't shine.

re: #213 Cato the Elder

and, pray tell, just which nation-state would you desire to supercede the United States?

re: #213 Cato the Elder

As for "superpowers" and being the only one, the sooner that ends, the better.

Why do you say that, Cato?

re: #180 J.S.

tonight Lou Dobbs did have a chance to mention that apparently the Mayor of chicago (have to pronounce that as per a French accent - that's CHEEK-a-go), Mayor Dayley, blamed the Fort Hood rampage on gun nuts -- as the CHEEK-a-go Mayor was touring an Arabic language school he made some disparaging remarks about Americans and guns...(that's Toronto Star boiler-plate material).

Yes, we must immediately pass new legislation to make it harder for military officers to get their hands on deadly weapons. It's for the children you know.

(What an utter whore Daley is. No, I take that back, whores are at least honest about what they are selling. This puts them moral light-years ahead of Daley and similar scum.)

re: #209 Cato the Elder

In case you really haven't noticed, it's a new world, and the American Empire is no longer what the Roman was when I was a senator.

Yet, when the effluvium transpires, the world doesn't phone Iceland.

re: #210 Floral Giraffe

And, just for fun, Jesse Jackson has accomplished, exactly WHAT in his life? Let's discuss his "paralysis" after we discuss his accomplishments.

Coleman Young said it best about Jesse.. The only thing he ever run was his mouth.

re: #214 Dark_Falcon

tch, tch, tch, you're sooo politically incorrect...you'll be banished! and your comments recorded and used to illustrate your anti-Americanism, etc.

re: #190 Floral Giraffe

Is REINE HERE???

It doesn't seem so. I'll email her about River Cottage as well. I'm really enjoying the series. His recipes are a little esoteric and a little heavy on cream but his general concept is very sound. I'm really enjoying the series.

re: #210 Floral Giraffe

And, just for fun, Jesse Jackson has accomplished, exactly WHAT in his life? Let's discuss his "paralysis" after we discuss his accomplishments.

He's a true, blue capitalist, in that he provides much needed competition for Big Al Sharpton.

re: #209 Cato the Elder

In case you really haven't noticed, it's a new world, and the American Empire is no longer what the Roman was when I was a senator.

What the heck are you talking about? There is and has been no American Empire in my lifetime.
It was only a year ago that the US was still universally thought of and called the world's only superpower. Since Obama's election, with trillions upon trillions in increased debt, and an apparent lack of resolve by the CIC to win the war against the Taliban, US "sole superpower status" is circling the drain.

re: #207 Dark_Falcon

To a small extent, yes it is. But those two do report angles the MSM won't report, and that makes them useful.

Agreed. All three of them give me the vergüenza ajena like that one Christmas when my half-brother started screaming that we were all handing the world over to the n&^^%$s. He's got problems. Rationally I realize there's no real world equivocation here at all, but still, that's how they make me feel.

re: #223 Spare O'Lake

yep. Everyone (with the possible exception of certain Americans) seem to realize the obvious...(it's somewhat amusing).

God evening, Lizard Brothers and Sisters!

re: #217 Shiplord Kirel

Yes, we must immediately pass new legislation to make it harder for military officers to get their hands on deadly weapons. It's for the children you know.

Like I said earlier- what exactly is Croney Prince Daley's solution to all of this?

Prohibit officers in the US Army from buying their own firearms?
Make military installations 'gun free zones'?
Prohibit the sale of firearms to practicing Muslims in this country?

What a fucking tool...and I mean that in the nicest manner possible.

re: #223 Spare O'Lake

re: #209 Cato the Elder

In case you really haven't noticed, it's a new world, and the American Empire is no longer what the Roman was when I was a senator.

What the heck are you talking about? There is and has been no American Empire in my lifetime.
It was only a year ago that the US was still universally thought of and called the world's only superpower. Since Obama's election, with trillions upon trillions in increased debt, and an apparent lack of resolve by the CIC to win the war against the Taliban, US "sole superpower status" is circling the drain.

That's why the good Senator voted for Big O.

re: #226 SteveC

God evening, Lizard Brothers and Sisters!

Good evening!

PIMF... PIMF...PIMF...PIMF...PIMF... *+ 95 times*

To whomever has the answer. Why are my comments highlighted in green?I clicked the exclamation mark and ended up self reporting myself.

re: #221 Killgore Trout

Sharm & I already sent it.
LOL!
We're all over your discoveries!
Hope you are well!

re: #230 caliphibian

As with all of us, your comments appear highlighted in green only to you. Charles is helping us not to get lost.

re: #230 caliphibian

My comments are green to me, your comments are green to you. The Biz lizard upstairs moves in mysterious ways.

BTW...am I still 'unpatriotic' for laughing that this tool Daley and his lackeys won't be able to grease their palms with revenues from the 2016 Summer Olympics or kickbacks from all that contruction work prior to it?

re: #231 Floral Giraffe

That boy needs two sets of eyes on him, I tells ya.

re: #230 caliphibian

Green is the color of your posts.
Everyone else is "not green".
Report button is the "!" off to the right.
I do NOT suggest reporting yourself.
Report Trolls & Nasty folks.
It gets Charles's and Stinky's attention.

We argue over health care -

We argue over Global Warming -

So why not argue over both?

From the Journal of the American Medical Association:
Estimate of the Carbon Footprint of the US Health Care Sector

We estimated the carbon footprint of the US health care sector, defined as total greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions attributable to the production of health care goods and services.

//Do we really want to heal the patient when we could be killing the planet?

re: #230 caliphibian

To whomever has the answer. Why are my comments highlighted in green?I clicked the exclamation mark and ended up self reporting myself.

Do you mean your comment header, or the text of your comment? If it's the latter, I'm afraid I don't know why.

re: #227 Fenway_Nation

Like I said earlier- what exactly is Croney Prince Daley's solution to all of this?

Prohibit officers in the US Army from buying their own firearms?
Make military installations 'gun free zones'?
Prohibit the sale of firearms to practicing Muslims in this country?

What a fucking tool...and I mean that in the nicest manner possible.

He's kissing the Saudi posterior. He was speaking at an Arabic language program, and they fund many if not most of those. He was also pandering to domestic leftists who like to think that the only real enemies they have are conservatives. This of course is not true; Conservatives are simply the people who disagree with them. The enemies are often the people they've convinced themselves America is oppressing.

re: #232 jaunte

As with all of us, your comments appear highlighted in green only to you. Charles is helping us not to get lost.

I thought it was a Darwinian mutation meant to protect us from idiotarians?

re: #233 Killgore Trout

My comments are green to me, your comments are green to you. The Biz lizard upstairs moves in mysterious ways.

Gordon Gekko?

re: #240 Sharmuta

It's the green eyeshades.

re: #231 Floral Giraffe

I'm very well, thank you. My freezer if full, garden doing well and plenty to eat. How's it with you?

re: #230 caliphibian

To whomever has the answer. Why are my comments highlighted in green?I clicked the exclamation mark and ended up self reporting myself.

It just makes it easier to re-find your own posts on the page, your own posts are green, Charle's posts are kinda green-blue, everyone else is gray (and boring). j/k

re: #235 Sharmuta

Got your back, for this, Ms. Sharmie...
Attack of the Killer Tomatoes ain't gonna get none of us...

re: #237 SteveC

There's a Soylent Green joke in there somewhere.

re: #241 SteveC

Heh, eating with chopsticks while typing. Not working out very well.

re: #246 jaunte

There's a Soylent Green joke in there somewhere.

OMG- is THAT why the headers are green?!?!1?

re: #221 Killgore Trout

KT, do you know how to make Bubble Tea?

re: #248 Sharmuta

LGF is... people!

re: #249 Alouette

Never heard of Bubble tea before.

re: #251 Killgore Trout

Never heard of Bubble tea before.

It's an Asian sweet tea drink with tapioca balls on the bottom.

Why do I have the ditty "Shrill scream, a little Dobbs'll do ya" stuck in my head when I think of nativist Dobbs?

re: #247 Killgore Trout

Heh, eating with chopsticks while typing. Not working out very well.

Well, that changes everything! Got any Sweet and Sour Chicken? :)

re: #223 Spare O'Lake

Since Obama's election, with trillions upon trillions in increased debt,

It's the sequel to Carl Sagan's past exploit.

re: #253 Irenicum

Why do I have the ditty "Shrill scream, a little Dobbs'll do ya" stuck in my head when I think of nativist Dobbs?

because you are as old as i am?

re: #246 jaunte

Still beat soylent cowpie...

re: #252 Alouette

Bubble tea
Sounds interesting. I've always been sorta freaked out by tapioca pudding for some reason. Not Sure why.