Surprise, surprise, surprise.

Hasan earned more than $90,000 a year and had no dependents, yet lived in an aging one-bedroom apartment that rented for about $300 a month.

Hmm. That is a bit troubling. I have faith that law enforcement is indeed following up on hasan's finances. He could be in very deep trouble.

Aid and comfort...

Very, very interesting. Very interesting indeed. To whom did this money go in Pakistan?

Rent $300.00
Macaroni and Cheese $20.00
Lap Dances $4000.00
Jihad - Priceless

“they are trying to follow up on it because they recognize that if there are communications – phone or money transfers with somebody in Pakistan – it just raises a whole other level of questions.”

Like treason charges.

re: #2 Sharmuta

Hmm. That is a bit troubling. I have faith that law enforcement is indeed following up on hasan's finances. He could be in very deep trouble.

Hasan looks like he just landed himself in a world of shit.

His parents were Jordanian, but it is possible that he had relatives in Pakistan. Could be innocent, but the alternative is quite disturbing in its own right. Hasan had a $90k a year job, and living in a $300 a month apartment. He had very low monthly costs, which means that he could put a significant portion of that salary to other needs.

As they say, follow the money and see where it goes; if it leads to extremists and jihadis, I would not be surprised. His apparent pen pals appear to be the extremist types (like Awlaki). He was making a conscious decision to associate with the extremists, rather than moderate Muslims (or at least non controversial ones).

re: #2 Sharmuta

Hmm. That is a bit troubling. I have faith that law enforcement is indeed following up on hasan's finances. He could be in very deep trouble.

The news that they beleive he made this wire transfer, plus I'm sure they already have a warrant to look at his bank/ credit accounts assures me that they will know where every dime he has spent in the past 10 years under scrutiny

re: #8 lawhawk

His parents were Jordanian, but it is possible that he had relatives in Pakistan. Could be innocent, but the alternative is quite disturbing in its own right. Hasan had a $90k a year job, and living in a $300 a month apartment. He had very low monthly costs, which means that he could put a significant portion of that salary to other needs.

As they say, follow the money and see where it goes; if it leads to extremists and jihadis, I would not be surprised. His apparent pen pals appear to be the extremist types (like Awlaki). He was making a conscious decision to associate with the extremists, rather than moderate Muslims (or at least non controversial ones).

I'm beginning to think one reason for his rampage was because he believed the FBI was on to him and his time was running out.

I am still weeping for the victims and their families. It is terribly sad that we didn't unplug this guy from the taxpayers money earlier in the process. Serving in the US millitary should be a priveledge that the very best and bravest have. We should not feel obliged to pacify someone who decides to be radical for the sake of political correctness or diversity. Obviously handling him with kid gloves didn't do anyone any good.

re: #9 sattv4u2

I have no doubts of that. I have full faith that our fallen are being represented well by law enforcement and that justice will be served.

Maybe, just maybe, now the media can realize he wasn't suffering from some sort of stress disorder, or he didn't just snap because his car was keyed, or that he wasn't treated poorly by his dad, but that he is a flaming Jihadist!

Nah.

As I wrote here last night:

NPR tonight reports that not too long ago the brass at Walter Reed sat around a table worrying what to do with this sick loser. There was speculation out loud that he was psychotic and could possibly even be "fratricidal" - milcode for "might kill fellow soldiers". They decided it was too politically risky to try and fire him. There would be lawsuits (hmm...I wonder what organizations they were worried about?) and so, they just ended up shipping him off to Fort Hood and hoping the problem would disappear.

Heads. Must. Roll.

I heard this morning that the last time the military executed anyoe was 1961.

re: #7 Honorary Yooper

Hasan looks like he just landed himself in a world of shit.

Ummm... He shot up an army base killing 13. I'm pretty sure he's already in a world of shit.

re: #13 filetandrelease

Maybe, just maybe, now the media can realize he wasn't suffering from some sort of stress disorder, or he didn't just snap because his car was keyed, or that he wasn't treated poorly by his dad, but that he is a flaming Jihadist!

Nah.

I've seen a few "perp as victim" headlines but I don't think they are sticking to the national psyche. The "T" word is getting circulation and deservedly so.

there's a former leader (moderate) of the Muslim Canadian Congress who wrote an article -- he noted that Hasan was wearing (in that surveillance tape in the convenience store of Hasan on the morning of the shootings) certain attire. He mentions that CNN's commentator got it wrong -- the CNN commentator claimed it was attire worn in Jordan -- in reality, Hasan was wearing the "shalwar-kameez" -- traditional Pakistani clothing. Also clothing worn by those who go off to fight Jihad...(ie, the Afghan Arabs.)

re: #15 Cannadian Club Akbar

By hanging.

re: #10 Charles

I'm beginning to think one reason for his rampage was because he believed the FBI was on to him and his time was running out.

Is it likely that the FBI would have followed up if he was deployed to Afghanistan? I realize that's speculation. Hasan made an irrevocable choice in the matter. Just when remains to be seen.

Federal judge stays first military execution December 3, 2008.

Jihad Joe - the real American zero.

There are more questions than answers, and every time you turn around, the questions seem to multiply. Hasan was sent to Fort Hood because it was where he could do the least amount of harm - other medical professionals could pick up his slack.

As a psychiatrist in training, Hasan was characterized in meetings as a mediocre student and lazy worker, a matter of concern among the doctors and staff at Walter Reed Army Medical Center and the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences military medical school, the official said.

The concerns about Hasan's performance and religious views were shared with other military officials considering his assignment after he finished his medical training, and the consensus was to send him to Fort Hood, the official said. Fort Hood was considered the best assignment for Hasan because other doctors could handle the workload if he continued to perform poorly and his superiors could document any continued behavior problems, the official said.

This is a guy who gets promoted?

It seems that the warning signs were all too apparent, and yet he got the promotion and Hasan appears to have been concerned that he might be deployed overseas. What does this say about the promotion system in effect in the Army? Is this a function of having greater demand for health professionals that they need substandard caregivers to remain in the Service? Or was this a unique kind of screwup?

Something just isn't adding up here.

Hasan earned more than $90,000 a year and had no dependents, yet lived in an aging one-bedroom apartment that rented for about $300 a month.

Sounds just like my brother-in-law, except that he makes a whole bunch more than Hasan. My brother-in-law is just a really cheap SOB.

re: #13 filetandrelease

Maybe, just maybe, now the media can realize he wasn't suffering from some sort of stress disorder, or he didn't just snap because his car was keyed, or that he wasn't treated poorly by his dad, but that he is a flaming Jihadist!

Nah.

It can be true at the same time, though.

What I'm increasingly beginning to think is that this is one of those rare, rare cases where PC actually is a problem.

Hasan was increasingly dissatisfied with the military, and, given our foreign policy, probably with the US itself. He made that clear. But, apparently, instead of being able to talk to him about this, the "PC" interpretation was that he shouldn't be rebuked, talked to, approached like a human being, but instead just 'watched'.

It is entirely possible that Hasan's motivations for increasing religious extremism was percieved or real mistreatement. It is entirely possible that he really, really did have internal conflicts about killing other members of his own faith, and the worth of the war as a whole. None of that even approaches an 'excuse'-- I am simply attempting to look for a 'how can we prevent this again?'

I know, from my non-com friends in the armed forces, that the quality of the recruits that we are getting is very low-- though up in the past year. I know that gang members are being let into the military. I know that white supremacists are tolerated. I think we know now that even 'jihadists'-- though I'm unsure about the usefulness of that phrase-- are being let into the military.

It is not useful in any way to 'respect' someone's religion to the point that you do not call him out for outrageous statements and conclusions. It is not 'tolerant' to let someone who clearly is cracking up to stay as an active military officer. It is not 'compassionate' to let a Muslim who is conflicted about war on other Muslims stay in the military. It is insane.

Please note: I am not 'blaming' the military. Hasan did an evil thing, and the evil came from his heart. I simply want to be able to help prevent, in as much as that's possible, something like this happening again.

re: #13 filetandrelease

Maybe, just maybe, now the media can realize he wasn't suffering from some sort of stress disorder, or he didn't just snap because his car was keyed, or that he wasn't treated poorly by his dad, but that he is a flaming Jihadist!

Nah.

He snapped because people made fun of him! And nobody ever told him "Stick and stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt me."

Give the guy a break!

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re: #2 Sharmuta

Hmm. That is a bit troubling. I have faith that law enforcement is indeed following up on hasan's finances. He could be in very deep trouble.

More trouble than he's already in?

re: #24 Alouette

Sounds just like my brother-in-law, except that he makes a whole bunch more than Hasan. My brother-in-law is just a really cheap SOB.

Almost sounds like my cousin, a Marine Captain. He gets a nice stipend for being here in NY and sleeps most nights in his office.Never seems to have enough money, though.

the murderer was probably trying to buy a wife. It's already out there he was a lonely jihadi and that had trouble with western women (except strippers of course) and he was sending cash over to get him a burka babe who he could dominate and beat up on a regular basis.

Now we have direct evidence of Political Corectness leading to the death of innocents. Not to mention the cost of asking our soldiers to fight with one hand behind their back in order to avoid any collateral damage.

re: #27 JasonA

More trouble than he's already in?

Treason's pretty bad.

re: #30 DaddyG

Now we have direct evidence of Political Corectness leading to the death of innocents. Not to mention the cost of asking our soldiers to fight with one hand behind their back in order to avoid any collateral damage.

Our soldiers (and Marines) are rightly proud of fighting in a manner that minimizes civilian causalities. It has nothing to do with PC. It has to do with them being decent human beings.

re: #2 Sharmuta

Hmm. That is a bit troubling. I have faith that law enforcement is indeed following up on hasan's finances. He could be in very deep trouble.

Just had to laugh (it's better than crying) when I read that. Could just hear this bastard with his lawyer:

"So, I'm being indicted on 13 counts of premeditated murder?""
"I'm afraid so, and there's more bad news."
"What's that?"
"You're being audited."
"Oh crap!"

Who are we to judge?
/

re: #23 lawhawk

There are more questions than answers, and every time you turn around, the questions seem to multiply. Hasan was sent to Fort Hood because it was where he could do the least amount of harm - other medical professionals could pick up his slack.

This is a guy who gets promoted?

It seems that the warning signs were all too apparent, and yet he got the promotion and Hasan appears to have been concerned that he might be deployed overseas. What does this say about the promotion system in effect in the Army? Is this a function of having greater demand for health professionals that they need substandard caregivers to remain in the Service? Or was this a unique kind of screwup?

Something just isn't adding up here.

What doesn't add up is why the military is so hard-pressed for good doctors that they have to retain sick-fuck losers like this.

re: #23 lawhawk

Something just isn't adding up here.

put these factors into the calculator

(as you noted)
1) More soldiers deployed means more medical personel needed
2) A med professional doesn't have to rise from private to corporal to sargeant etc etc. They are already commisioned going in
3) i'm sure to show inclusiveness someone of hasans heritage gets the equivilant of Affirmative Action, Army style

re: #23 lawhawk

(CNN early on had suggested that sending Hasan to Fort Hood was, in fact, a demotion...which everyone knew, but wouldn't openly say.)

re: #35 Cato the Elder

The pay differential is enormous, and they do not, by and large, get much respect from other doctors.

re: #30 DaddyG

Now we have direct evidence of Political Corectness leading to the death of innocents. Not to mention the cost of asking our soldiers to fight with one hand behind their back in order to avoid any collateral damage.

More than anything this is an example of how "asymetric" warfare preys on our value system.

IMO, it is right that people at Walter Reed did second guess their misgivings about him as perhaps reflecting a bias. It says a great deal about America that people do that. Problem is that they went too far and then did the utterly irresponsible thing of making him Fort Hood's problem. The least they could have done is pin a note on his shirt that said "I am an utter under-performer and perhaps either a lunatic or jihadi (maybe both)."

Point is - we need people who have the capacity to question their own biases. But they need them to then have the moral courage and fortitude to go further and deal with the situation at hand and not try to sweep the problem under the rug, as the folks at Walter Reed did.

As for the jihad, it will exploit any opportunity to turn our values into a weakness and disadvantage. The answer isn't to do away with those values - the answer is to do the gut wrenching work dealing with the situation anyways.

re: #30 DaddyG

Now we have direct evidence of Political Corectness leading to the death of innocents. Not to mention the cost of asking our soldiers to fight with one hand behind their back in order to avoid any collateral damage.

"Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

"Examining" if he wired money to Pakistan?

The NSA could pull that information up in half a second.

How stupid do these people think we are?

This stinks.

re: #32 obdicut

Our soldiers (and Marines) are rightly proud of fighting in a manner that minimizes civilian causalities. It has nothing to do with PC. It has to do with them being decent human beings.

I'm not taling about the conduct of our soliders. I know they avoid unecessary deaths and are consumate professionals. I'm talking about unreasonable expectations placed upon them as part of their rules of engagement that could get them killed.

re: #39 karmic_inquisitor

Point is - we need people who have the capacity to question their own biases. But they need them to then have the moral courage and fortitude to go further and deal with the situation at hand and not try to sweep the problem under the rug, as the folks at Walter Reed did.

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Absolutely agreed. I mean, I think if anyone sat down with him and talked to him at length-- like his commanding officer, say-- it would have become clear that he could not be tolerated.

As for the jihad, it will exploit any opportunity to turn our values into a weakness and disadvantage. The answer isn't to do away with those values - the answer is to do the gut wrenching work dealing with the situation anyways

"the Jihand" has no agency on its own. It is not a coherent entity, but otherwise, again, completely agreed.

It is a natural outcome of any free society, like ours, that free citizens inside it can do terrible, terrible things. That is freedom. I could, right now, go purchase a gun, and go on a rampage. That is freedom.

It doesn't occur in a vacuum, though. His commanding officers, especially, should be asked pointedly why this man, under their command, was not dealt with appropriately.

Ugh, typo, apologies.

re: #42 DaddyG

I'm not taling about the conduct of our soliders. I know they avoid unecessary deaths and are consumate professionals. I'm talking about unreasonable expectations placed upon them as part of their rules of engagement that could get them killed.

Those rules of engagement are part of what prevent civilians from dying, though. And yes, they could get them killed. That is what it means to be in the military.

You started your statement by talking about reducing collateral damage; that's true. That's what the rules of engagement are. And collateral damage is the lives of civilians.

Hasan's "Soldier of Allah" business cards are being reported as such on ABC News now.

/but G-d forbid that the concerned higher-ups should have been "crucified" for voicing any concerns beforehand...

re: #43 obdicut

It doesn't occur in a vacuum, though. His commanding officers, especially, should be asked pointedly why this man, under their command, was not dealt with appropriately.

I've read several pieces mentioning that his superior officers and anyone else connected to the issue were afraid of being sued up the ying-yang for "Islamaphobia" by groups such as CAIR.

re: #46 The Sanity Inspector

PC people might not allow themselves to think certain thoughts, but in millions of minds across the country pretty indelible connections have been made by Mr. Hasan between islam and "danger, watch out".

Can we please start calling this a terror attack?

re: #46 The Sanity Inspector

Hasan's "Soldier of Allah" business cards are being reported as such on ABC News now.

/but G-d forbid that the concerned higher-ups should have been "crucified" for voicing any concerns beforehand...

Guns and religion - always a good combination.

/

re: #47 samsgran1948

I've read several pieces mentioning that his superior officers and anyone else connected to the issue were afraid of being sued up the ying-yang for "Islamaphobia" by groups such as CAIR.

..and? So they abdicated their duty to the country and the other soldiers under their command?

I can justify any numbers of actions by claiming I'm afraid of being sued. That doesn't make my actions right.

I think one of the problems is that the military, especially the air force, regularly has allowed Christian proselytizers way, way too much access to armed forces. That may complicate action you want to take against a proselytizer (however batshit) of a different faith.

Another reason for strong, strong, strong separation of church and state.

re: #49 TheMatrix31

Can we please start calling this a terror attack?

A sincere question: What changes if we call it a terror attack?

re: #49 TheMatrix31

Can we please start calling this a terror attack?

He wasn't wearing his al-Qaeda decoder ring. So, no.

re: #51 Obdicut

Acknowledging that it infact, was, a terrorist attack. Premeditated, connected to radical Islam, etc. Saying its just a random rampage doesn't do it justice. It's sugarcoating and straying from mentioning "sensitive issues".

re: #50 karmic_inquisitor

Guns and religion - always a good combination.

/

It depends on the religion.

re: #51 Obdicut

Calling something what it is is important. There are many people out there that are incapable of visualizing the threats we face if you don't draw them complete pictures, they won't 'get it'. When you say "a long gunman shot an Army recruiter in Arkansas" and then drop the story quicker than you picked it up because you find out the shooter was a muslim acting upon his beliefs and that doesn't tie in with your political agenda, you are censoring the news. The same applies here. People need to understand the motive behind the actions. The real question should be why not call it what it is? What is the agenda of those who won't call it a terrorist attack?

re: #55 CommonCents

People need to understand the motive behind the actions. The real question should be why not call it what it is? What is the agenda of those who won't call it a terrorist attack?

IMHO the agenda is sympathy for Stan.

re: #53 TheMatrix31

Acknowledging that it infact, was, a terrorist attack. Premeditated, connected to radical Islam, etc. Saying its just a random rampage doesn't do it justice. It's sugarcoating and straying from mentioning "sensitive issues".

I haven't heard anyone call it a random rampage-- the stories I've read were offering many different motivations, all of them ending with him wanting to strike back at the Army.

I do think that everything I've read about him shows a man who is insane, or going insane. I don't believe that this excuses him at all, in the least; I firmly believe that even in the midst of insanity, will remains-- but I don't think that he is comparable to the planners of 9/11.

What was the goal of his terrorist action? What policy change did he want to affect?

It is possible that the result of this will be that the Army will take a much closer look at extremists in its ranks and deal with them-- a rather counterproductive effect for a terrorist.

Of course, maybe I just don't 'get' terrorism, as a whole. It's all so fucking horribly useless.

Need to follow the money trail and see where it is going to! All military (active and retired) pay is directly deposited into a military member's bank account. You must have a bank account to get paid and this is a requirement in the military. The investigators should be able to see all of Maj Hasan's bank activities in the last 10 years.

re: #57 Obdicut

So it has to be big like 9/11 to be called a terror attack?

You're right. You DON'T "get" terrorism as a whole. If you think calling something terrorism instead of a random act of violence is useless, then there really is no point in discussing it further.

re: #57 Obdicut

What was the goal of his terrorist action? What policy change did he want to affect?

It's a war with radical Islam. His goal was to kill the enemy and strike fear (a.k.a terror) into the heart of his enemy. It wasn't a policy play.

re: #51 Obdicut

A sincere question: What changes if we call it a terror attack?

If Hasan had physical or moral support to perform his atrocity, perhaps what changes is how he is interrogated and what legal rights are (dis)respected, in contrast to the treatment of a multiple murder who acted alone.

The issue revulses me, but it will arise if Hasan is part of a conspiracy.

re: #59 TheMatrix31

So it has to be big like 9/11 to be called a terror attack?

You're right. You DON'T "get" terrorism as a whole. If you think calling something terrorism instead of a random act of violence is useless, then there really is no point in discussing it further.

I never advocated calling it a random act of violence, either. Please don't put words in my mouth.

I am saying that one man, inspired by whomever, launching an attack is different than a terrorist group working, every day, to launch attacks like this.

re: #60 CommonCents

It's a war with radical Islam. His goal was to kill the enemy and strike fear (a.k.a terror) into the heart of his enemy. It wasn't a policy play.

Okay. So when the US military bombs a terrorist hideout and kills the radical Islamists there, are they committing an act of terrorism? Their goal is to kill the enemy and to strike fear into their hearts-- and I'm glad they do it.

To me, if anything makes this 'terrorism' in a useful way, it's the abject cowardice of Hasan's actions. He may have chosen a 'military' target, but they were unarmed, unsuspecting.

I would much rather call him a traitor than a terrorist. He was a US citizen. He was a member of our military. He was, and is, a traitor.

re: #51 Obdicut

A sincere question: What changes if we call it a terror attack?

What changes if we all start calling you Spongebob Squarepants? A correct name for something yields a correct understanding of it.

re: #63 The Sanity Inspector

What changes if we all start calling you Spongebob Squarepants? A correct name for something yields a correct understanding of it.

I do not understand what is meant by calling him a terrorist in the same way Osama Bin Laden is, though. Is it the cowardice of the action? The motivation stemming from radical sources?

To me, he is a cowardly, abject traitor, something I actually consider worse than a terrorist.

re: #62 Obdicut

I am saying that one man, inspired by whomever, launching an attack is different than a terrorist group working, every day, to launch attacks like this.

Only to the extent that the shade tree mechanic is different from Pep Boys. And mind, the investigation into any further terror network or lack thereof is still ongoing.

re: #31 Sharmuta

Treason's pretty bad.

Instead of lethal injection, he'll get drawing and quartering?

There's no further punishment the law can mete out to this man. He's got 13 death penalties coming already, along with about a thousand years in prison, all at hard labor. Our Constitution forbids penalties assessed against relatives, which is a wise and merciful provision, but the only way any legal system can "get even" with somebody when the crime is this big is to go after his extended family.

Hmmm, about 7 times more comments about Sean Hannity and Lou Dobbs than this revelation about Hasan? This isn't my grandfather's LGF.

re: #67 borgcube

Hmmm, about 7 times more comments about Sean Hannity and Lou Dobbs than this revelation about Hasan? This isn't my grandfather's LGF.

Israel came up.

Two things that don't add up:

Hasan wanted to get out of the Army, but they kept him on even though he is obviously unstable and potentially dangerous.

Why would they fear "PC backlash" if he would be leaving of his own free will?

They are spending billions on Homeland Security, unauthorized wiretapping without warrants, monitoring bank transfers looking for Needles in Haystacks, etc...but cannot identify this big, red sore thumb stickng out

On Hannity: he had to respond to this gaffe, but claims of "inadvertent" are complete bullshit unless the editor was an underpaid intern or some guy from Pakistan just off the boat.

/

re: #69 ralphieboy

Two things that don't add up:

Hasan wanted to get out of the Army, but they kept him on even though he is obviously unstable and potentially dangerous.
Why would they fear "PC backlash" if he would be leaving of his own free will?
They are spending billions on Homeland Security, unauthorized wiretapping without warrants, monitoring bank transfers looking for Needles in Haystacks, etc...but cannot identify this big, red sore thumb stickng out

On Hannity: he had to respond to this gaffe, but claims of "inadvertent" are complete bullshit unless the editor was an underpaid intern or some guy from Pakistan just off the boat.

/

Got to remember he went to med school in the military and they invested a lot of money on him. Also, it is a lot harder to discharge a doctor in the military (unless he tell them that he is gay), a lot of paperwork involved.

He can't just leave the military because he had a sign contract with the military. We don't even know how many years was his contract with the Army especially his paid medical school from the military.

I read that he offered to pay back the cost of his schooling (he had the money, it seems) and they would've been shut of a major headache.

The military can get rid of anyone they like at most any time, especially if they are willing to go. But it seems that it was the Army that was not willing to drop him for whatever reason.

I just don't buy the "fear of PC backlash" theory that is making the rounds, I think there is something else behind it.

re: #71 ralphieboy

Do we know for sure he had the cash? I know if you wish to buyout of the Canadian Forces, a BEng is valued at well over $100,000.. they want reimburshment for all books, tutition, flights they paid for in support of, everything.

If the Army wants to let you out, they will find a way. For some reason they didn't. That is what i cannot understand. Why were they so bent on keeping such a loose cannon?

Agreed on that one. Not knowing anything about military law, would it be easier to get wiretaps, etc, if he was still in the service?

If it a matter of "force protection" I cannot imagine they need go far.

Is our military really that short-handed or overworked that they felt the need to keep this fellow on or failed to see the advantage of cutting him loose?

This is what any "investigation" of the matter needs to sort out.

re: #71 ralphieboy

I read that he offered to pay back the cost of his schooling (he had the money, it seems) and they would've been shut of a major headache.

The military can get rid of anyone they like at most any time, especially if they are willing to go. But it seems that it was the Army that was not willing to drop him for whatever reason.

I just don't buy the "fear of PC backlash" theory that is making the rounds, I think there is something else behind it.

I think it was a mix of PC and the lack of medical military personnel. 2 wars can stretch a force pretty thin. Neither are good reasons to not pay attention to a guy who kinda sucks at his job and makes all the creep alarms go off.

The asymetrical form of warfare that radical Islamists are engaged in
can be described as 'terrorism'. This means that the amount of fear and consequent preventative actions are all out of proportion to the original event. It may change the way that military bases in the U.S. are currently operated. This one individual gets to change our way of life. This is a War against the Western system of democracy and if that isn't Jihad and terrorism, I don't know what else it could be. You might also call it "Cultural Suicide". That the warning signs were ignored is another lengthy discussion.

If Maj Hasan was part of a jihadist movement, it wouldn't be unusual that he reportedly was living in a $350-a-month apartment despite making a base pay of $93,000 as a psychiatrist. That's what the 9/11 terrorists did. They lived very poorly and sent whatever extra money they had back to the cause. They're not looking for gain here on earth. They're looking for gain in the afterlife.

re: #2 Sharmuta

Hmm. That is a bit troubling. I have faith that law enforcement is indeed following up on hasan's finances. He could be in very deep trouble.

There is deeper trouble than murdering 13 people in cold blood???

Just sayin...

GG