Cartman is Beck
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Racer X Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:31:06pm |
At the end of the video there is a link to watch the full episode.
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Racer X Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:32:53pm |
Cartman does the perfect Glenn Beck - he nails it. He should win an Emmy this year.
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Racer X Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:33:25pm |
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Sharmuta Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:34:56pm |
I really appreciate Cartman looking out for my people and asking questions of these anti-Smurfites.
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kobra_55 Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:35:37pm |
I know it's supposed to be a parody, but to me it doesn't seem THAT far off from the actual content of the show.
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:36:57pm |
Nooo!
We LIKE Shamuta here...
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Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:37:31pm |
Conservatism is rapidly becoming a joke.
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Egregious Philbin Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:38:23pm |
"or does she?"
See, I can't be sued if I say that!
BTW, it was brilliant, but then, Beck is so ripe since he is a parody anyway.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:38:50pm |
re: #5 Racer X
Cartman does the perfect Glenn Beck - he nails it. He should win an Emmy this year.
It's pitch perfect. Trey Parker really hit the ball nine miles high with this episode.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:41:13pm |
God did Trey and Matt get Beck down to a tee. Loved having Butters represent the people who eat what he says right up. The Smurf angle was hilarious as well.
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Gus Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:41:16pm |
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:41:38pm |
re: #11 Killgore Trout
Conservatism is rapidly becoming a joke.
Becomming?
I'm sorry to say, it IS a joke.
No direction, except into the wilderness.
Bigger govenrnment, spend more, more, more!
I am almost to the point of considering OJoe's Whigs!
Not, quite, but still...
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fizzlogic Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:42:00pm |
So the RW blogosphere is represented by Butters?
Does Wendy really want to replace the dollar with the amero? Why would she want to do that? Just askin...
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Randall Gross Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:42:09pm |
Thanks KT, I watched the whole episode earlier and thought it was hilarious.
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albusteve Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:42:51pm |
re: #11 Killgore Trout
Conservatism is rapidly becoming a joke.
no it isn't...it's an ideology, a style of living...people become jokes
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Gus Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:43:00pm |
re: #19 Sharmuta
Tales of my demise are greatly exaggerated.
But the Smurf berries can help power the school!
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bosforus Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:43:06pm |
Haven't watched the whole episode. Please tell me there's a gold standard reference!
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:43:17pm |
OMG, they killed Sharmuta! You bastards!
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Randall Gross Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:44:04pm |
re: #17 trendsurfer
So the RW blogosphere is represented by Butters?
Does Wendy really want to replace the dollar with the amero? Why would she want to do that? Just askin...
Hey, Wendy is all for the North American Union and the Superhighway of Illegal smurfgration that will run from the tip of South America to Sarah Palin's Home in Alaska!
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Racer X Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:44:25pm |
I got the full episode on the DVR - gonna have to watch it in a bit.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:45:26pm |
You don't know how long I have been waiting for LGF to have a South Park thread!
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:46:35pm |
Who is the kid "Casey Miller" spoofing? Garrison Keillor?
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Gus Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:46:59pm |
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bratwurst Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:47:05pm |
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fizzlogic Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:47:20pm |
re: #27 Alouette
Yeah, but after that how many on the Right will still refer to themselves as a South Park conservative? :)
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Egregious Philbin Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:47:47pm |
Yeah, but Wendy Testaburger IS a bitch.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:47:51pm |
re: #26 Racer X
I got the full episode on the DVR - gonna have to watch it in a bit.
Same here. NFL is on right now.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:48:11pm |
re: #20 albusteve
no it isn't...it's an ideology, a style of living...people become jokes
It's going beyond individuals at this point. Populist economic nonsense based on fictional characters like John Galt and New World Order conspiracies are now mainstream on the right. Conservatives are ruining their brand. The Ideology will survive but what it's going to look like when it comes out on the other end of this nonsense is anybody's guess.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:48:33pm |
re: #31 trendsurfer
Yeah, but after that how many on the Right will still refer to themselves as a South Park conservative? :)
Matt and Trey were asked if they were liberals or conservatives. They said neither, but they thought liberals sucked more.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:48:42pm |
re: #23 Alouette
OMG, they killed Sharmuta! You bastards!
You missed the sekrit deleted scene. The surviors of Smurf village kidnap Azrael (Gargamel's cat) take the cat to New York and drop it down Roger Ailes pants in revenge.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:49:02pm |
re: #32 Egregious Philbin
Yeah, but Wendy Testaburger IS a bitch.
But Kyle's mom is the biggest bitch in the whole wide world.
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Egregious Philbin Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:49:21pm |
re: #30 bratwurst
Casey Kasem of course
Don't you mean Kamal Amin "Casey" Kasem?
He got a funny name, like them mooslims...its true!
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Sharmuta Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:49:26pm |
re: #27 Alouette
You don't know how long I have been waiting for LGF to have a South Park thread!
I never thought we'd have an opportunity to discuss anti-Smurfites. God bless Eric Cartman for asking these bold and courageous questions.
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bratwurst Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:49:41pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:49:47pm |
re: #5 Racer X
Cartman does the perfect Glenn Beck - he nails it. He should win an Emmy this year.
Not vulnerable enough.
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Gus Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:50:00pm |
re: #41 Sharmuta
I never thought we'd have an opportunity to discuss anti-Smurfites. God bless Eric Cartman for asking these bold and courageous questions.
Emmy!
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TedStriker Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:50:02pm |
re: #11 Killgore Trout
Conservatism is rapidly becoming a joke.
No, conservatism as defined by the kooky wingnuts is a joke...
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:51:01pm |
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:51:33pm |
re: #32 Egregious Philbin
Yeah, but Wendy Testaburger IS a bitch.
Nah, Cartman's just butthurt because she kicked his ass last year.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:51:40pm |
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TedStriker Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:52:00pm |
re: #40 Egregious Philbin
Don't you mean Kamal Amin "Casey" Kasem?
He got a funny name, like them mooslims...its true!
Kasem is descended from Druze, IIRC, right?
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albusteve Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:53:05pm |
re: #34 Killgore Trout
It's going beyond individuals at this point. Populist economic nonsense based on fictional characters like John Galt and New World Order conspiracies are now mainstream on the right. Conservatives are ruining their brand. The Ideology will survive but what it's going to look like when it comes out on the other end of this nonsense is anybody's guess.
I wonder too...I look forward to the mid term election more than I ever have...maybe we will get a better sense of how much influence the far right has...but certainly, based on the media and blogs it doesn't look good...but there are tons of moderate voters out there...we'll see
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HappyWarrior Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:53:37pm |
The best thing about South Park is that they go after every ideology equally and often with the same hilarity. There were a lot of liberals who were real offended after South Park spoofed Gore and Global Warming but that episode to me was hilarious. As long as there are going to be people out there like Glenn Beck then South Park will be among the funniest shows on TV.
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albusteve Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:53:40pm |
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Sharmuta Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:54:21pm |
re: #28 Alouette
Who is the kid "Casey Miller" spoofing? Garrison Keillor?
Casey Kasem. You might know him best as Shaggy.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:54:52pm |
I don't recall if South Park has ever spoofed Rush.
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Sharmuta Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:55:21pm |
re: #52 HappyWarrior
The best thing about South Park is that they go after every ideology equally and often with the same hilarity. There were a lot of liberals who were real offended after South Park spoofed Gore and Global Warming but that episode to me was hilarious. As long as there are going to be people out there like Glenn Beck then South Park will be among the funniest shows on TV.
ManBearPig rules. I'm super serial.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:55:30pm |
re: #39 Alouette
But Kyle's mom is the biggest bitch in the whole wide world.
I used to work with this woman--she had the classroom across from mine. I realized at some point that after speaking to her I often found myself--entirely without thinking about it--humming the "Kyle's Mom Is A Bitch" song.
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Racer X Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:55:54pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:55:56pm |
re: #52 HappyWarrior
The best thing about South Park is that they go after every ideology equally and often with the same hilarity. There were a lot of liberals who were real offended after South Park spoofed Gore and Global Warming but that episode to me was hilarious. As long as there are going to be people out there like Glenn Beck then South Park will be among the funniest shows on TV.
The mohammed episode was funny as hell. Everyone in town put their heads in the sand...hahahahahahaha.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:56:35pm |
re: #57 SanFranciscoZionist
I used to work with this woman--she had the classroom across from mine. I realized at some point that after speaking to her I often found myself--entirely without thinking about it--humming the "Kyle's Mom Is A Bitch" song.
My daughter made "Kyle's Mom is a Bitch" her ringtone for my calls.
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fizzlogic Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:56:52pm |
re: #55 Alouette
Cartman's Beck could have been interpreted as Rush too. Or for that matter, every RW pundit.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:57:57pm |
I was thinking that when he got his hair done the way they did it was of Rush but upon further looking I realized it was more of Beck not Limbaugh. I wanted them to spoof the Ron Paul fan club last year honestly but I guess it wasn't on their radar.
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atribecalledsean Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:58:11pm |
I guess I'm in the minority, but I thought Jon Stewart's impression > South Park's. Both gave me the lols though.
[Link: www.indecisionforever.com...]
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:58:51pm |
re: #61 trendsurfer
Cartman's Beck could have been interpreted as Rush too. Or for that matter, every RW pundit.
I thought at first he was spoofing Rush, but he made his hair like Glenn Beck.
He could have been spoofing Rush and Beck at the same time.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:59:16pm |
re: #61 trendsurfer
Cartman's Beck could have been interpreted as Rush too. Or for that matter, every RW pundit.
Now all RWers. I've discovered Todd Schnitt on XM radio and he seems to have his head on right.
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That's Glenn Beck to you Thu, Nov 12, 2009 7:59:30pm |
Well I have to say that I got a chuckle or two watching this.
Not because it is funny or anything - it isn't.
I laughed because Cartman and the folks at SouthPark got it all wrong.
Here - let me put it on my chalkboard -
1) Smurfs are Belgian
Belgian is almost French. And if there is something worse than the French it is Belgians. They can't stand America. Ever had Belgian beer? I can't anymore because I am an alcoholic, but what is with sweet beer?
2) Smurfs are Blue
As in Blue state. Now I know that Belgium is part of the European Union and if you made a political map of Europe it would be all blue. But Belgium would be the bluest. Like Veronica in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory after she eats the blue experimental candy. Expanding. Blue. So blue it is about to explode blue all over the place.
3) I really don't have something for three ...
But that isn't important - Belgian and Blue is enough to show that I would be the last guy to defend the smurfs.
Unless, of course, the people at SouthPark want you to think I am pro smurf.
Think about that ...
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atribecalledsean Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:00:19pm |
re: #60 Alouette
My daughter made "Kyle's Mom is a Bitch" her ringtone for my calls.
I hope your name isn't Kyle.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:01:00pm |
re: #60 Alouette
My daughter made "Kyle's Mom is a Bitch" her ringtone for my calls.
"This is offensive to the Jewish community!"
"YOU are the Jewish community!"
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Sharmuta Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:02:50pm |
re: #67 That's Glenn Beck to you
I always knew you were an anti-Smurfite! My Papa has something for you.
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J.S. Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:03:13pm |
OT
BBC world reports a large blast at NATO headquarters, Kabul, Afghanistan...
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albusteve Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:05:24pm |
According to the report, the source of the electricity must also be taken into account when calculating the environmental benefit.
[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]
duh!...where does all this electricity come from?...the wall outlet?
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:06:13pm |
re: #71 J.S.
OT
BBC world reports a large blast at NATO headquarters, Kabul, Afghanistan...
Taliban spreading more peace?
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:06:33pm |
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Racer X Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:06:44pm |
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Achilles Tang Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:06:55pm |
It would be funny if it was supposed to be, but Southparkstudios.com has the clutzsiest dumbass website design, not to mention functionality, I have come across since at least 10 years ago; and I'm a ddamned fan of South Park for crissakes!
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J.S. Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:07:22pm |
The area has been sealed off, "may be casulties" suicide bomber (this is where Western forces are located in Kabul, Afghanistan.) Reuters report (from BBC World)
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Gus Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:07:38pm |
re: #67 That's Glenn Beck to you
And they're blue like the blue Teletubbie Tinky Winky!
//Falwell mode off.
/
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That's Glenn Beck to you Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:07:44pm |
re: #70 Sharmuta
I always knew you were an anti-Smurfite! My Papa has something for you.
Your Papa should stop drinking Belgian beer and mind his manners.
Until he does, I have this framed picture of Martin Luther King to comfort me. He too took abuse from people like Papa Smurf. [sob]
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fizzlogic Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:08:08pm |
re: #73 albusteve
duh!...where does all this electricity come from?...the wall outlet?
duh, Smurf berries.
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albusteve Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:08:16pm |
the beginning of the meltdown of the Mexican govt?...UN Peacekeepers?, bwahahaha!...pretty desperate...
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
OPEN BORDERS!
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:08:36pm |
re: #77 Naso Tang
It would be funny if it was supposed to be, but Southparkstudios.com has the clutzsiest dumbass website design, not to mention functionality, I have come across since at least 10 years ago; and I'm a ddamned fan of South Park for crissakes!
Well, as long as I can view their episodes online in full-screen mode I don't care what their website looks like. It does hang up IE, so I watch in Firefox.
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The Sanity Inspector Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:08:50pm |
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albusteve Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:09:39pm |
re: #76 Racer X
Uh oh.
hell yeah...if you were the Taliban, wouldn't you take advantage of the...'situation'?
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Irish Rose Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:10:38pm |
Looks like Allah over at Hot Air has finally settled on a strategy for dealing with the RNC's health insurance plan.
I wonder how this story happened. Did a couple of lefty insurance agents at Cigna leak it to Politico unbidden or did Politico go calling around at Cigna until it found a pair of lefty insurance agents willing to leak?
The comments are of course, predictable.
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albusteve Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:10:55pm |
we snooze, we lose...and the USA is in a deep sleep
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:11:09pm |
re: #70 Sharmuta
I always knew you were an anti-Smurfite! My Papa has something for you.
I just saw more of the episode. I've figured out what we here must do:
We must prevail upon Walter to travel to South Park and beat Cartman within an inch of his life for breaking Sharmuta's heart.
/entirely kidding
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fizzlogic Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:12:02pm |
re: #66 NJDhockeyfan
He'll change once he realizes there's no money on XM. :)
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Sharmuta Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:12:46pm |
re: #80 That's Glenn Beck to you
Your Papa should stop drinking Belgian beer and mind his manners.
Until he does, I have this framed picture of Martin Luther King to comfort me. He too took abuse from people like Papa Smurf. [sob]
LIES! Anti-Smurfic lies! Next I suppose you'll cite The Protocols of the Elders of Smurf? Spread more anti-Smurf propaganda. It's not enough that we suffer at the hands of Gargamel and Azriel , we have to suffer ignorant fools like Wendy and you too!
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The Sanity Inspector Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:13:00pm |
Former classmates of Major Hasan say he was always an Islamist. They spoke anonymously, which says something about something, not sure what at this hour.
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Gus Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:13:52pm |
re: #86 Irish Rose
Looks like Allah over at Hot Air has finally settled on a strategy for dealing with the RNC's health insurance plan.
The comments are of course, predictable.
That's it? So instead of thinking about the double standards, hypocrisy, etc., the only thing they get out of that is "blame the lefties?" IOW, they're saying it should have been kept a secret.
Nice to know where they're coming from. Of course, nothing new really.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:15:08pm |
re: #78 J.S.
The area has been sealed off, "may be casulties" suicide bomber (this is where Western forces are located in Kabul, Afghanistan.) Reuters report (from BBC World)
Press TV:
7 dead, as blast hits Pakistani intelligence building
A bomb explosion outside Pakistan's main intelligence agency in the northwestern city of Peshawar has left at least 7 people killed and 35 others wounded.
The bomb attack on the agency, which was overseeing much of the anti-terror campaign in the border regions with Afghanistan, came in the early hours of Friday, the Associated Press reported.
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albusteve Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:15:21pm |
re: #91 The Sanity Inspector
Former classmates of Major Hasan say he was always an Islamist. They spoke anonymously, which says something about something, not sure what at this hour.
has Sharia Law crept into the equation?...it is forbidden to criticize Islam, so where did the case against Hasan stall?...who dropped the ball and why?...funny how the story has shifted eh?
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J.S. Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:16:10pm |
re: #93 NJDhockeyfan
No. The BBC World "news" was Kabul, Afghanistan, NATO headquarters...just within a half hour or so ago.
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albusteve Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:17:23pm |
re: #93 NJDhockeyfan
Pakis are easy targets...lots of inside skinny to take down civilians, and govt agencies...I am not comfortable with the nuke situation over there
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philosophus invidius Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:18:28pm |
Jon Stewart's Beck was much better. And the unfunny joke about a student getting murdered kinda ruined it for me.
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That's Glenn Beck to you Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:18:29pm |
re: #90 Sharmuta
LIES! Anti-Smurfic lies! Next I suppose you'll cite The Protocols of the Elders of Smurf? Spread more anti-Smurf propaganda. It's not enough that we suffer at the hands of Gargamel and Azriel , we have to suffer ignorant fools like Wendy and you too!
For too long Smurfs have been protected by a PC bubble. I and thousands of Americans recognize what the smurf menace is doing to this great country of ours and we aren't going to take it anymore. We will march on Brussels on 12/12! Millions of us will be there to bring attention to the blue fascist menace and its megalomaniac leader Papa Smurf!
And then I will sell some books ...
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Irenicum Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:18:37pm |
I just got done watching the whole episode. OMG! Frikkin' hilarious!
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:18:41pm |
re: #95 J.S.
No. The BBC World "news" was Kabul, Afghanistan, NATO headquarters...just within a half hour or so ago.
Islam is having a busy day in the area.
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jaunte Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:18:58pm |
re: #91 The Sanity Inspector
Good grief. Albusteve, you're right about people being asleep.
His presentations for school were often laced with extremist Muslim views, one source said."Is your allegiance to Sharia law or the United States?" students once challenged Hasan, the source said.
"Sharia law," Hasan responded, according to the source.
The incident was corroborated by another doctor who was present.
The source recalled another instance in which Hasan was asked if the U.S. Constitution was a brilliant document. Hasan replied, "No, not particularly," according to the source.
How can an officer in the U.S. Military say this and not be questioned?
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Irish Rose Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:19:11pm |
re: #92 Gus 802
That's it? So instead of thinking about the double standards, hypocrisy, etc., the only thing they get out of that is "blame the lefties?" IOW, they're saying it should have been kept a secret.
Nice to know where they're coming from. Of course, nothing new really.
Red State, however, is outraged!
Someone at the RNC Must be Fired Over This
Let’s keep this simple. Word got out today via Politico that the RNC’s health care package for their employees covers abortions. At the risk of belaboring the obvious, if you at any time have donated to the RNC since 1991 (when this policy apparently took place), some incremental portion of your donation went to the administrative costs of running the RNC, including employee salaries and benefits packages. Part of “benefits packages” in this context is apparently a health care package that pays for abortions.For thirty years, we have fought tooth and nail to prevent our tax money from being used to pay for abortions. Turns out, we were apparently doing it through donating to the political party that was ostensibly on our side. This betrayal is so fundamental to the majority of people who donate to the RNC that it’s almost unspeakable. I have no doubt that many of the staffers there will miss the point, so allow me to make it clearly: you have caused every person who donated to support your livelihood to become involved in what they perceive to be a grave moral evil.
The RNC’s defense thus far seems to be excusable negligence; blaming it on some (surely departed) staffer who checked a box almost 20 years ago, and whoops, we weren’t careful enough. So sorry. It won’t happen again.
Not good enough.
Not even close.
Companies regularly renegotiate health contracts - every year or every two years at most. Someone, at the very least, a human resources person, looks over these contracts. Or at least, that is their job. If they were unclear about what it said, they have these things called lawyers who can help.
In order for the RNC to regain the trust of their donors, they must disclose the names of all people involved in any way of the selection of their health care plan. And those people must be summarily fired. No severance packages, no golden parachutes; fired. For cause.
No pro-lifer in good conscience can give them a dime until this happens.
IF YOU HAVE DONATED TO THE RNC AT ANY TIME SINCE 1991 CALL THEM AT[no phone numbers allowed]. GET NAMES. DEMAND REFUNDS UNLESS THE PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE ARE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. IF THEY DON’T HEAR DIRECTLY FROM YOU THEY WILL DO NOTHING.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:20:44pm |
re: #79 Gus 802
And they're blue like the blue Teletubbie Tinky Winky!
//Falwell mode off.
/
Tinky Winky is PURPLE. Even worse.
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albusteve Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:21:25pm |
re: #101 jaunte
Good grief. Albusteve, you're right about people being asleep.
How can an officer in the U.S. Military say this and not be questioned?
nice guys finish last
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J.S. Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:21:52pm |
re: #100 NJDhockeyfan
(I suspect they may be successful in getting NATO out...that's my hunch...Obama is also looking for an exit strategy.)
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:24:15pm |
re: #101 jaunte
Good grief. Albusteve, you're right about people being asleep.
How can an officer in the U.S. Military say this and not be questioned?
Simple: No one wanted to risk the fallout from asking the questions.
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J.S. Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:24:34pm |
re: #101 jaunte
Anderson Cooper had on a report in which the reporter quoted a fellow student who said Hasan's contacting radical clerics so as to do "research" on suicide bombing was a joke -- a complete joke...laughable to call it "research." (Hasan was apparently allowed to do zero scholarly work, and get away with it.)
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Gus Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:24:39pm |
re: #102 Irish Rose
Yeah, betrayal. I'm sure if those boneheads looked even closer they'd be even more disappointed. Not happy with being carnivores within their own party candidates now they are going to use this to go after the RNC health insurance policy with Cigna whose CEO is essentially a Republican himself.
What's next in the long purge?
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albusteve Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:26:02pm |
re: #106 Dark_Falcon
Simple: No one wanted to risk the fallout from asking the questions.
so can we call that an expression of Sharia Law?...or am I a lunatic?
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Gus Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:26:12pm |
re: #103 SanFranciscoZionist
Tinky Winky is PURPLE. Even worse.
Oops. He's purple not blue.
Purple is the color of the traitor states that's going from the GOP to the Democrat party! Purple is the color of Outfront and the GLBT peoples!
//
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The Sanity Inspector Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:26:18pm |
re: #101 jaunte
Good grief. Albusteve, you're right about people being asleep.
How can an officer in the U.S. Military say this and not be questioned?
To see what is in front of one's nose needs a constant struggle.
-- George Orwell
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J.S. Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:26:37pm |
BBC World -- International base...Kabul, Afghanistan...has been hit -- initial reports said it was a suicide bomber...that may be revised...reports still coming in.
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jaunte Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:27:05pm |
re: #106 Dark_Falcon
Simple: No one wanted to risk the fallout from asking the questions.
So much for taking one for the team.
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J.S. Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:27:54pm |
re: #106 Dark_Falcon
exactly. To report Hasan would risk/jeopardise one's military career.
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The Sanity Inspector Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:28:39pm |
re: #109 albusteve
so can we call that an expression of Sharia Law?...or am I a lunatic?
Creeping dhimmitude, maybe.
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albusteve Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:29:26pm |
re: #114 jaunte
So much for taking one for the team.
our vaunted Armed Forces seems to have some weaknesses deciding just who is a threat, meanwhile we shakedown little old ladies in airports looking for illegal shampoo...we are fucked
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:30:24pm |
re: #107 J.S.
Anderson Cooper had on a report in which the reporter quoted a fellow student who said Hasan's contacting radical clerics so as to do "research" on suicide bombing was a joke -- a complete joke...laughable to call it "research." (Hasan was apparently allowed to do zero scholarly work, and get away with it.)
ABC's conformation of those business cards found in his apartment and his surfing habits at jihad sites are very telling.
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The Sanity Inspector Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:30:33pm |
Gotta go, big day tomorrow. Wife's getting an endoscopy, hoping to find the cause of recurring abdominal pains. HoosierHoops, if you pass through tonight, put that on the prayer list, please.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:30:56pm |
re: #115 J.S.
exactly. To report Hasan would risk/jeopardise one's military career.
As well as any career after leaving the military. Get canned from a job for being discriminatory and you'll have a very hard time finding another job. That's a big fat resume blemish and it stays with you for a very long time.
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albusteve Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:32:25pm |
re: #120 Dark_Falcon
As well as any career after leaving the military. Get canned from a job for being discriminatory and you'll have a very hard time finding another job. That's a big fat resume blemish and it stays with you for a very long time.
right...meanwhile 13 people are dead...ironic eh?
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J.S. Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:32:39pm |
re: #118 NJDhockeyfan
some legal people are saying that his only defense at this point may be an insanity plea...(it's difficult, but they may be all they've got to keep Hasan from facing a death sentence.)
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The Sanity Inspector Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:33:16pm |
re: #115 J.S.
exactly. To report Hasan would risk/jeopardise one's military career.
Paralyzed by political correctness. If he had been, oh, a Serbian revanchist objecting to the mission in Bosnia, he would have been bounced tout de suite.
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The Sanity Inspector Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:34:37pm |
re: #121 albusteve
right...meanwhile 13 people are dead...ironic eh?
If there's any cosmic justice, some military brass ought to be enjoying a painful case of indigestion this week.
/ really gone now
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:35:07pm |
re: #121 albusteve
right...meanwhile 13 people are dead...ironic eh?
No, just typical. Getting the boot for failing to notice an impending disaster is actually not as bad as being thought a bigot. Given a year or two, you can generally explain it away.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:35:38pm |
re: #122 J.S.
some legal people are saying that his only defense at this point may be an insanity plea...(it's difficult, but they may be all they've got to keep Hasan from facing a death sentence.)
I'm curious if Hasan would allow that. Most of these jihadists are too proud of their crimes for Allah to please insanity.
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J.S. Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:35:40pm |
re: #118 NJDhockeyfan
btw, did you notice that Hasan didn't even bother to spell the word "Health" correctly on his "business cards"? (good grief...)
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albusteve Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:35:50pm |
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Gus Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:35:56pm |
re: #109 albusteve
so can we call that an expression of Sharia Law?...or am I a lunatic?
I think it's simple PCness gone awry. That type of response can lead to an acceptance of Sharia laws if left unchecked. I say PCness because it's applied to many other atypical abhorrent behaviors that are accepted by the polite society due to various fears.
Now they biggest fear? This happened in the United State Army. Imagine now what other things or personalities are going unchecked. There's probably a "security hole" as wide as the Pacific.
Seems like they're busier going after homosexuals instead. There's a lot of confusing and hypocritical issues here.
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bosforus Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:36:02pm |
re: #121 albusteve
right...meanwhile 13 people are dead...ironic eh?
Which is why the push for PC is such BS. It places unreasonable pressures on people's understanding of what should be obvious.
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J.S. Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:36:35pm |
re: #128 NJDhockeyfan
hmm...that will be interesting, won't it? hadn't thought about that angle...
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:38:12pm |
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Gus Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:39:05pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:40:17pm |
Blast Strikes U.S. Military Base in Kabul
KABUL (Reuters) - An explosion hit one of the main U.S. military bases in Kabul early on Friday, the military said.
Sergeant First Class Kevin Bell, a spokesman for U.S. and NATO-led forces, said the blast struck at Camp Phoenix, a giant base near the airport in the Afghan capital, used mainly by U.S. troops and also some from other NATO allies.
He gave no further details.
An Afghan police source said the blast was caused by a suicide bomber. The area had been sealed off by Western forces, and he believed there were casualties, he said.
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MrSilverDragon Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:40:38pm |
I can not condone killing smurfs... for sport.
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albusteve Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:41:09pm |
just an aberration...a lone killer that had a multitude of personal and social problems...we will study him, determine his motive, rewrite the case histories, design some classes to protect him from himself...and wait for the next giant gun down
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:42:47pm |
re: #119 The Sanity Inspector
Gotta go, big day tomorrow. Wife's getting an endoscopy, hoping to find the cause of recurring abdominal pains. HoosierHoops, if you pass through tonight, put that on the prayer list, please.
Best wishes for the best news!
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:43:06pm |
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:45:54pm |
re: #141 SanFranciscoZionist
(Blueberry flavored, so I'm told...)
;)
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Gus Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:46:17pm |
re: #139 albusteve
just an aberration...a lone killer that had a multitude of personal and social problems...we will study him, determine his motive, rewrite the case histories, design some classes to protect him from himself...and wait for the next giant gun down
IOW, security outweighs retention rates.
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Athens Runaway Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:46:24pm |
OT: Obama preparing to cut and run from Afghanistan?
I hope that Colin Powell and all those Republicans who voted for Obama are happy with themselves.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:46:39pm |
re: #139 albusteve
just an aberration...a lone killer that had a multitude of personal and social problems...we will study him, determine his motive, rewrite the case histories, design some classes to protect him from himself...and wait for the next giant gun down
Here's Strategy Page's take on Hasan the shitbird:
Major Hasan Embraces Tradition
Money Line: "Moreover, to try and depict Hasan's act as anything but Islamic terrorism ignores Islamic history."
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albusteve Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:49:04pm |
BO was on TV everyday a couple of months ago, campaigning for his urgent, do or die Obamacare bill...passing it was paramount to saving lives...now where is he?...unemployment hovers over 10%...jobs are scarce...Afghanistan is screaming for some action and BO hides out...suddenly he has nothing to say, and heads for Asia, where the action is
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albusteve Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:50:44pm |
re: #143 Gus 802
IOW, security outweighs retention rates.
when he is uncomfortable with 'victory' in Afghanistan, he's lucky if anybody will fight for him...what a bad message to send
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jaunte Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:51:43pm |
Local Houston news report on the Alavi Foundation-related mosque seizure. About 300 children are attending k-through-12 Islamic school in the building.
[Link: www.39online.com...]
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Gus Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:51:56pm |
re: #144 Athens Runaway
OT: Obama preparing to cut and run from Afghanistan?
I hope that Colin Powell and all those Republicans who voted for Obama are happy with themselves.
Perhaps that's also a message to Hamid Karzai who thinks it's OK to rape your wife under the law of Islam along with his drug lord brother. Meanwhile, it's been alleged that some US contractors are paying of insurgents for safe passage through that nation.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:52:30pm |
re: #146 albusteve
BO was on TV everyday a couple of months ago, campaigning for his urgent, do or die Obamacare bill...passing it was paramount to saving lives...now where is he?...unemployment hovers over 10%...jobs are scarce...Afghanistan is screaming for some action and BO hides out...suddenly he has nothing to say, and heads for Asia, where the action is
He figures if he gets out of the country and off TV for a few days his poll numbers might stop dropping.
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albusteve Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:52:42pm |
most of the commentarists split when it comes to Afghanistan...few of us seem to be that interested
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Gus Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:53:02pm |
re: #147 albusteve
when he is uncomfortable with 'victory' in Afghanistan, he's lucky if anybody will fight for him...what a bad message to send
True. Too many mixed messages. He's almost there but not quite yet.
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jaunte Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:53:35pm |
re: #151 albusteve
The world is too small now; we can't just come home and disengage.
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jaunte Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:55:10pm |
re: #154 windhorse
The process will take awhile; I bet they finish out the spring term.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:55:12pm |
Schoolboy 'bullied by Muslims over salami sandwich'
A COUPLE has withdrawn their two children from a public primary school, claiming their son was bullied by Muslim students because he ate a salami sandwich during Ramadan.
Andrew Grigoriou said yesterday he complained to the school and to police after his son Antonios, 11, was chased and later assaulted by Muslim students after a confrontation over the contents of his lunch.
Antonios, a Year 5 student of Greek-Australian background at Punchbowl Public School in Sydney's southwest, said he and a friend had to be locked inside the library for an hour after being chased by a group of Muslim boys offended by his choice of food while they were fasting.
The Grigoriou family said the following exchange took place:
Muslim student to Antonios: "Why are you eating ham, it's Ramadan?"
Antonios: "My mum packed this for lunch today."
Muslim student: "Don't eat that. How can you eat pig, it's disgusting."
Mr Grigoriou said he removed his son and a younger child from the school on Tuesday after the boy was punched in the eye and kicked in the legs by a Muslim student.
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Sharmuta Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:55:47pm |
There is a surprisingly long history of anti-Smurfism in some LGF comments.
Here for example. That's 2007.
Here.
I'm actually not joking when I say I'm a bit disturbed by this one. I guess we know why that one was blocked.
More.
Another.
I might have found a long lost relative.
More.
OMG!
I can't bear to read any more! I'll be reporting many of those comment for deletion...
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Gus Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:55:56pm |
Until those cavemen join the modern world there will be problems.
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Athens Runaway Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:56:42pm |
re: #153 jaunte
Sure we can. Afghanistan was Bush's war, and if we hadn't been such big meanies to the Arab world, they wouldn't want to fight us.
*spit*
Part of me wishes he'd just come out with it and announce that he was cutting and running from Afghanistan and Iraq. If you're not fighting a war to win it, why waste your time and fight it at all.
For all the McCain-Palin hate that goes on here, I doubt we'd have to worry about if they were really committed to winning the wars overseas.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:58:52pm |
re: #158 Gus 802
Until those cavemen join the modern world there will be problems.
Trying to get cavemen to join the modern world only works until they see one of those Geico commercials. Then they get all pissed off again.
///
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:59:21pm |
re: #157 Sharmuta
Raise your hand if you grew up with the Smurfs game on the Colecovision!
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:00:29pm |
re: #159 Athens Runaway
Sure we can. Afghanistan was Bush's war, and if we hadn't been such big meanies to the Arab world, they wouldn't want to fight us.
*spit*
Part of me wishes he'd just come out with it and announce that he was cutting and running from Afghanistan and Iraq. If you're not fighting a war to win it, why waste your time and fight it at all.
For all the McCain-Palin hate that goes on here, I doubt we'd have to worry about if they were really committed to winning the wars overseas.
Actually, there is very little hostility directed towards John McCain. Sarah Palin gets ripped on because of her poor decisions, not because most of us think she's a bad person.
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albusteve Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:00:47pm |
re: #159 Athens Runaway
Sure we can. Afghanistan was Bush's war, and if we hadn't been such big meanies to the Arab world, they wouldn't want to fight us.
*spit*
Part of me wishes he'd just come out with it and announce that he was cutting and running from Afghanistan and Iraq. If you're not fighting a war to win it, why waste your time and fight it at all.
For all the McCain-Palin hate that goes on here, I doubt we'd have to worry about if they were really committed to winning the wars overseas.
true enough...there is an enormous amount of time and energy spent here exposing right wing lunatics...it's that important to people that they have taken their eye off the ball...people are dying in Afghanistan and most posters are way more concerned with what Glenn beck is saying
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jaunte Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:02:56pm |
re: #159 Athens Runaway
I hate the feeling that we're just kicking the can down the road, postponing the hard decisions for someone else.
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Gus Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:05:06pm |
re: #160 Dark_Falcon
Trying to get cavemen to join the modern world only works until they see one of those Geico commercials. Then they get all pissed off again.
///
They're always pissed off. Pakistan is a rogue state. Always was and always will be. Right before this whole debacle started off they and India were about to nuke each other. Right now we're negotiating with Pakistan to fight the Taliban in Afghanistan. A good deal of Pakistanis are on the side of the Taliban. This after they assassinated Benazir Bhutto.
Full metal sharia. When they're not busy wanting to nuke India. Nice allies we have.
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albusteve Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:05:15pm |
re: #164 jaunte
I hate the feeling that we're just kicking the can down the road, postponing the hard decisions for someone else.
BO campaigned in favor of this war...that was over a year ago...in last March he said he had a plan but never followed up on it...what are we supposed to think?
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Sharmuta Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:05:20pm |
re: #164 jaunte
I hate the feeling that we're just kicking the can down the road, postponing the hard decisions for someone else.
As the great philosopher said:
Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals! Except the weasel.
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Athens Runaway Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:05:25pm |
re: #163 albusteve
I don't like Glenn Beck, but he's not sitting in the White House or in Congress, nor is he an elected official. I can (and do) turn him off or change the channel, but I can't change who's in charge of the nation.
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Cato the Elder Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:07:15pm |
re: #159 Athens Runaway
For all the McCain-Palin hate that goes on here, I doubt we'd have to worry about if they were really committed to winning the wars overseas.
I doubt McCain (forget Palin) could figure out how to win unwinnable wars any better than Obama can. But he'd make belligerent noises, and that would satisfy people like you.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:07:48pm |
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windhorse Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:08:00pm |
I admit... I been workiin' hard... and I got me a serious case of B.O.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:09:09pm |
re: #167 albusteve
BO campaigned in favor of this war...that was over a year ago...in last March he said he had a plan but never followed up on it...what are we supposed to think?
That's right. Afghanistan was the 'good war' and he was going to fight to win. What happened to that?
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Athens Runaway Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:09:48pm |
re: #170 Cato the Elder
"People like me." Can't wait to hear what "people like me" want. If you're going to call someone a name, don't leave them guessing what you think they are.
So, what am I?
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:10:32pm |
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bosforus Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:11:25pm |
Happiest state in the US?
Why, it's Utah!
[Link: www.livescience.com...]
Can't say I disagree. I am very happy here.
/Or am I just saying I'm happy to keep up the facade?
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:12:13pm |
re: #176 bosforus
Happiest state in the US?
Why, it's Utah!
[Link: www.livescience.com...]
Can't say I disagree. I am very happy here.
/Or am I just saying I'm happy to keep up the facade?
Well, I'm just happy you're so happy.
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Cato the Elder Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:12:14pm |
re: #174 Athens Runaway
Someone who thinks belligerent noises equal a strategy.
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albusteve Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:12:24pm |
re: #170 Cato the Elder
I doubt McCain (forget Palin) could figure out how to win unwinnable wars any better than Obama can. But he'd make belligerent noises, and that would satisfy people like you.
BO took on this thing, are you abandoning him?...he promised to win this fight...do his words mean anything to you?
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bosforus Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:13:01pm |
re: #177 SanFranciscoZionist
Well, I'm just happy you're so happy.
That makes me happy as well! But guess what else, LGF makes me happy!
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:13:29pm |
re: #179 albusteve
BO took on this thing, are you abandoning him?...he promised to win this fight...do his words mean anything to you?
What would a win in Afghanistan look like? Open question to the board. When do we get to say we're done?
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Athens Runaway Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:13:29pm |
re: #179 albusteve
BO took on this thing, are you abandoning him?...he promised to win this fight...do his words mean anything to you?
Those were belligerent noises.
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Gus Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:14:48pm |
re: #159 Athens Runaway
Sure we can. Afghanistan was Bush's war, and if we hadn't been such big meanies to the Arab world, they wouldn't want to fight us.
*spit*
Part of me wishes he'd just come out with it and announce that he was cutting and running from Afghanistan and Iraq. If you're not fighting a war to win it, why waste your time and fight it at all.
For all the McCain-Palin hate that goes on here, I doubt we'd have to worry about if they were really committed to winning the wars overseas.
For all the McCain-Palin hate that goes on here?
Tell me about Sarah Palin's military experience besides dealing with Levi Johnston. Is she anything like Ike?
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albusteve Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:14:53pm |
re: #178 Cato the Elder
Someone who thinks belligerent noises equal a strategy.
bullshit...and you know it...we are not making nor did McCain make belligerent noises...in fact BO did, he's the one who is the war monger here
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Cato the Elder Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:15:42pm |
re: #179 albusteve
BO took on this thing, are you abandoning him?...he promised to win this fight...do his words mean anything to you?
Does reality mean anything to you? How many more trillions of dollars, thousands of lives and dozens of months are you willing to pour into Afghanistan? Especially when al Qaeda is now in Pakistan?
If you can tell Obama how to "win", I'm sure he'd be damn grateful.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:16:27pm |
re: #186 Gus 802
For all the McCain-Palin hate that goes on here?
Tell me about Sarah Palin's military experience besides dealing with Levi Johnston. Is she anything like Ike?
They are/were both carbon-based lifeforms?
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Cato the Elder Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:16:48pm |
re: #187 albusteve
bullshit...and you know it...we are not making nor did McCain make belligerent noises...in fact BO did, he's the one who is the war monger here
Oh, no - McCain only promised there would be more wars, in addition to the ones we've got. Nothing belligerent there.
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Pawn of the Oppressor Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:17:21pm |
Another home run from Trey Parker and Matt Stone, Secular Prophets of Our Times.
Next they need to take on the anti-vaccination people. That phenomenon is absolutely tailor-made for South Park.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:17:49pm |
re: #193 sngnsgt
Woo-hoo, my first post from my new Toshiba laptop!
Mazal tov. Type on it in good health!
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Gus Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:17:55pm |
re: #191 SanFranciscoZionist
They are/were both carbon-based lifeforms?
Two warm bodies including the "first dude." Over and over again.
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albusteve Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:17:57pm |
re: #182 SanFranciscoZionist
What would a win in Afghanistan look like? Open question to the board. When do we get to say we're done?
BO needs to decide that...and obviously he can't...as for me I've posted volumes about this war...either we own Afghanistan or we get out, I say we own it...empire building I guess...since they can't manage their own afairs, we'll do it for them...if not, withdraw in defeat and let the whole country burn inder Tali rule
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bosforus Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:17:57pm |
re: #193 sngnsgt
Woo-hoo, my first post from my new Toshiba laptop!
A new anything is cause for celebration!
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:18:17pm |
re: #194 Pawn of the Oppressor
Another home run from Trey Parker and Matt Stone, Secular Prophets of Our Times.
Next they need to take on the anti-vaccination people. That phenomenon is absolutely tailor-made for South Park.
Yeah...they could do something excellent with that.
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Athens Runaway Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:19:04pm |
Night Lizards. re: #199 SanFranciscoZionist
Yeah...they could do something excellent with that.
Perhaps a sequel to their episode about chicken pox parties (Season 2 or 3, I think)
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albusteve Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:20:16pm |
re: #189 Cato the Elder
Does reality mean anything to you? How many more trillions of dollars, thousands of lives and dozens of months are you willing to pour into Afghanistan? Especially when al Qaeda is now in Pakistan?
If you can tell Obama how to "win", I'm sure he'd be damn grateful.
he would as clueless as he is...it's all in or all out...he was gonna win this fight so show us how he's gonna payback his voters...clean it up BO!, you bigshot...show us the beef!
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sagehen Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:20:36pm |
re: #192 Cato the Elder
Oh, no - McCain only promised there would be more wars, in addition to the ones we've got. Nothing belligerent there.
He had that cute song about bombing Iran (he would have chased those magnificent green people right back into embracing the nutjob regime).
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:21:14pm |
re: #197 albusteve
BO needs to decide that...and obviously he can't...as for me I've posted volumes about this war...either we own Afghanistan or we get out, I say we own it...empire building I guess...since they can't manage their own afairs, we'll do it for them...if not, withdraw in defeat and let the whole country burn inder Tali rule
I repeat, what would a win look like? When you say, manage their affairs, what does that mean? Karzai? Appointing a regent? What do we do? And for how long?
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albusteve Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:22:38pm |
re: #192 Cato the Elder
Oh, no - McCain only promised there would be more wars, in addition to the ones we've got. Nothing belligerent there.
there may be more wars if we want to defeat Islamic militarism...where do you stand on the War on Terror?...defeat them in the courts?...if Afghanistan is a loser, which it appears to be, just say so
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:23:17pm |
re: #202 sagehen
He had that cute song about bombing Iran (he would have chased those magnificent green people right back into embracing the nutjob regime).
It took me a moment to realize who the 'magnificant green people' were. I was briefly envisioning Martians, and wondering what we were talking about.
;)
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:23:32pm |
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Cato the Elder Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:24:28pm |
re: #197 albusteve
BO needs to decide that...and obviously he can't...as for me I've posted volumes about this war...either we own Afghanistan or we get out, I say we own it...empire building I guess...since they can't manage their own afairs, we'll do it for them...if not, withdraw in defeat and let the whole country burn inder Tali rule
So we stay there forever until Afghans turn into Minnesotans? Nice, polite Minnesotans who don't think in terms of clans and valleys, but of statehood? Who don't grow poppies for a living and eschew tribal rivalry? Who beg us to stay when we threaten to leave, because dey wuv us for our music? They who outlasted the Greeks, the Brits and the Soviets? We own that?
Good God, man, get real.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:25:04pm |
re: #204 albusteve
there may be more wars if we want to defeat Islamic militarism...where do you stand on the War on Terror?...defeat them in the courts?...if Afghanistan is a loser, which it appears to be, just say so
I just have the same question I had in the fall of 2001--how do you win a war against an NGO? How do you win a war against a whole endlessly mutating series of them?
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albusteve Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:25:30pm |
re: #203 SanFranciscoZionist
I repeat, what would a win look like? When you say, manage their affairs, what does that mean? Karzai? Appointing a regent? What do we do? And for how long?
rule them ourselves...forever...what does BO say?...at least I have a solution as ugly as it is...I didn't campaign on defeating the Taliban and freeing the country...he did...it appears he either lied or has no clue whatsoever...
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sngnsgt Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:25:52pm |
re: #195 SanFranciscoZionist
Mazal tov. Type on it in good health!
I'll be using it for the first time in hopefully a good health situation, I have Epilepsy. I'm going to have a sleep deprived EEG to see if they can tell where my seizures originate. I'll have to be awake for 20 to 24 hours and they said I can bring in a laptop, they have wi-fi in the hospital.
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Gus Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:26:31pm |
re: #203 SanFranciscoZionist
I repeat, what would a win look like? When you say, manage their affairs, what does that mean? Karzai? Appointing a regent? What do we do? And for how long?
I think we should keep fooling ourselves. Fact is we're dealing with museum pieces. It will go nowhere in the long run unless we're willing to fight a thousand year war. As it stands now most Americans want us to pull out according to recent polls.
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albusteve Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:26:36pm |
re: #207 Cato the Elder
So we stay there forever until Afghans turn into Minnesotans? Nice, polite Minnesotans who don't think in terms of clans and valleys, but of statehood? Who don't grow poppies for a living and eschew tribal rivalry? Who beg us to stay when we threaten to leave, because dey wuv us for our music? They who outlasted the Greeks, the Brits and the Soviets? We own that?
Good God, man, get real.
I asked you your opinion...so what is it?...what's your clue?
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sngnsgt Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:28:15pm |
re: #195 SanFranciscoZionist
Mazal tov. Type on it in good health!
I'll be using it for the first time in hopefully a good health situation, I have Epilepsy. I'm going to have a sleep deprived EEG to see if they can tell where my seizures originate. I'll have to be awake for 20 to 24 hours and they said I can bring in a laptop, they have wi-fi in the hospital.
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albusteve Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:29:57pm |
re: #208 SanFranciscoZionist
I just have the same question I had in the fall of 2001--how do you win a war against an NGO? How do you win a war against a whole endlessly mutating series of them?
if we don't fight them, we will have to contain them...I've suggested that many times here...I see no reason to get further tangled up over there...make it our mission to destroy Paki nukes and kill any militants that step outside of Afghanistan...if possible...continued air strikes and assasinations of Tali leaders...etc
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:30:00pm |
re: #209 albusteve
rule them ourselves...forever...what does BO say?...at least I have a solution as ugly as it is...I didn't campaign on defeating the Taliban and freeing the country...he did...it appears he either lied or has no clue whatsoever...
OK, Obama lied, or has no clue whatsoever. I'm not here to defend Barack Obama's plans for Afghanistan.
But seriously, the thought of trying to go literally empire building at this late hour fills me with despair. We rule Afghanistan forever...sort of...what about Pakistan? What happens when we leave Iraq? What are we going to do about Iran? This is already starting to feel like a game of Twister.
Your solution strikes me as not only ugly but impractical.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:30:13pm |
I'm too tired to stay, I've got to get to bed. Goodnight, all.
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Gus Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:30:22pm |
re: #207 Cato the Elder
So we stay there forever until Afghans turn into Minnesotans? Nice, polite Minnesotans who don't think in terms of clans and valleys, but of statehood? Who don't grow poppies for a living and eschew tribal rivalry? Who beg us to stay when we threaten to leave, because dey wuv us for our music? They who outlasted the Greeks, the Brits and the Soviets? We own that?
Good God, man, get real.
It's a tragedy. Won't ever happen. Even if they sent in a million troops.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:31:02pm |
re: #215 albusteve
if we don't fight them, we will have to contain them...I've suggested that many times here...I see no reason to get further tangled up over there...make it our mission to destroy Paki nukes and kill any militants that step outside of Afghanistan...if possible...continued air strikes and assasinations of Tali leaders...etc
Containment strikes me as far more possible.
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albusteve Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:32:57pm |
re: #216 SanFranciscoZionist
OK, Obama lied, or has no clue whatsoever. I'm not here to defend Barack Obama's plans for Afghanistan.
But seriously, the thought of trying to go literally empire building at this late hour fills me with despair. We rule Afghanistan forever...sort of...what about Pakistan? What happens when we leave Iraq? What are we going to do about Iran? This is already starting to feel like a game of Twister.
Your solution strikes me as not only ugly but impractical.
it's not at all impractical if, like Cato say, you toss trillions at it...these are scenarios I'm suggesting...that's the shit part...the other is get off the pot
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Cato the Elder Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:33:58pm |
re: #215 albusteve
You might at least get over the notion that there is something called "Tali".
It's Talib (sing.), Taliban (plur.), and it simply means "student".
How can you defeat the enemy if you don't even know his name?
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:35:09pm |
re: #221 Cato the Elder
You might at least get over the notion that there is something called "Tali".
It's Talib (sing.), Taliban (plur.), and it simply means "student".
How can you defeat the enemy if you don't even know his name?
I believe the CIA used to fondly refer to the Afghani mujahedeen as "the Mooj".
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albusteve Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:35:15pm |
re: #221 Cato the Elder
You might at least get over the notion that there is something called "Tali".
It's Talib (sing.), Taliban (plur.), and it simply means "student".
How can you defeat the enemy if you don't even know his name?
no...I'm a hayseed...irredeemable if you will
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albusteve Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:37:40pm |
re: #219 SanFranciscoZionist
Containment strikes me as far more possible.
and that solution will lead to incalculable suffering for the common people over there...which is it?...BO is supposed to be figuring this all out for us...meanwhile our own people are dying
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Cato the Elder Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:37:52pm |
re: #223 albusteve
no...I'm a hayseed...irredeemable if you will
Well, we at least have irredeemability in common.
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Gus Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:38:24pm |
OK So we're going to spend what? 3 million per enemy combatant? How long is that going to last? This isn't like shooting down a Mig-17. We're running out of money. The cost of this war isn't free over the long run.
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Cato the Elder Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:38:53pm |
re: #224 albusteve
and that solution will lead to incalculable suffering for the common people over there...which is it?...BO is supposed to be figuring this all out for us...meanwhile our own people are dying
I'm sure McCain would have seen an obvious solution that hasn't occurred to Obama or anyone here yet.
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Sharmuta Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:39:47pm |
re: #226 Gus 802
OK So we're going to spend what? 3 million per enemy combatant? How long is that going to last? This isn't like shooting down a Mig-17. We're running out of money. The cost of this war isn't free over the long run.
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Gus Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:40:50pm |
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albusteve Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:40:57pm |
re: #225 Cato the Elder
Well, we at least have irredeemability in common.
re: #227 Cato the Elder
I'm sure McCain would have seen an obvious solution that hasn't occurred to Obama or anyone here yet.
I want movement of some sort...I want to see some leadership and some decision making, which reminds me...I have to go deal with my laundry girls...sassy little waifs..
I'm out like Buster Mathis
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:43:45pm |
re: #224 albusteve
and that solution will lead to incalculable suffering for the common people over there...which is it?...BO is supposed to be figuring this all out for us...meanwhile our own people are dying
Incalculable suffering in Afghanistan is an absolute given. As for Obama, I'm awfully damn glad I don't have his job.
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bosforus Thu, Nov 12, 2009 9:56:28pm |
Time keeps on slippin, slippin...
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freetoken Thu, Nov 12, 2009 10:00:11pm |
re: #232 bosforus
Time keeps on slippin, slippin...
You can say that again... with only 41 more shopping days to go before Christmas, I'm probably pushing the envelope of getting things done in time.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Nov 12, 2009 10:00:40pm |
I just had an alarmingly simply, extremely annoying, deep personal insight.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Nov 12, 2009 10:01:01pm |
re: #234 SanFranciscoZionist
I just had an alarmingly simply, extremely annoying, deep personal insight.
Just letting you all know!
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Nov 12, 2009 10:01:35pm |
re: #233 freetoken
You can say that again... with only 41 more shopping days to go before Christmas, I'm probably pushing the envelope of getting things done in time.
Like I've said before, I do not start to panic until the voice on the loudspeaker tells me the store is closing in half an hour.
On Christmas Eve.
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bosforus Thu, Nov 12, 2009 10:01:41pm |
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Sharmuta Thu, Nov 12, 2009 10:02:03pm |
re: #234 SanFranciscoZionist
I just had an alarmingly simply, extremely annoying, deep personal insight.
Is it a good thing?
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Nov 12, 2009 10:04:23pm |
It's not very exciting to anyone who isn't me. It just struck me that the fact that my father acted out when my mother did household chores throughout my childhood might just have something to do with the fact that I am the world's most inept housekeeper.
If Daddy gets huffy and sad because Mommy is doing the dishes, what is the logical response?--AVOID DOING THE DISHES!
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Nov 12, 2009 10:04:55pm |
re: #238 Sharmuta
Is it a good thing?
Probably. I might even call my old therapist. She's going to laugh her ass off.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Nov 12, 2009 10:06:15pm |
What did people DO with themselves before pop psychology?
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bosforus Thu, Nov 12, 2009 10:06:23pm |
re: #239 SanFranciscoZionist
Well that's some pretty darned good self-analysis.
Now, turn down your lights and meet... the mysterious stranger
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freetoken Thu, Nov 12, 2009 10:07:02pm |
re: #241 SanFranciscoZionist
What did people DO with themselves before pop psychology?
Penance - doubling up on the offering as the plate passed by...
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Nov 12, 2009 10:08:06pm |
re: #242 bosforus
Well that's some pretty darned good self-analysis.
Now, turn down your lights and meet... the mysterious stranger
THat's awfully creepy, but interesting looking. I can hardly hear it, though.
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bosforus Thu, Nov 12, 2009 10:08:42pm |
re: #245 SanFranciscoZionist
THat's awfully creepy, but interesting looking. I can hardly hear it, though.
Got headphones?
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Nov 12, 2009 10:13:04pm |
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Timmeh Thu, Nov 12, 2009 10:54:59pm |
re: #62 HappyWarrior
I was thinking that when he got his hair done the way they did it was of Rush but upon further looking I realized it was more of Beck not Limbaugh. I wanted them to spoof the Ron Paul fan club last year honestly but I guess it wasn't on their radar.
I think Cartman was a mashup of Beck, Limbaugh and Hannity.
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PloniAlmoni Thu, Nov 12, 2009 10:58:55pm |
Funny clip, but Not really a big fan of SouthPark after they got invaded by "Jewbots" (which is fine), and the solution was killing them by burning them (which is pretty damn offensive).
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Jack Burton Thu, Nov 12, 2009 11:50:15pm |
re: #249 PloniAlmoni
Funny clip, but Not really a big fan of SouthPark after they got invaded by "Jewbots" (which is fine), and the solution was killing them by burning them (which is pretty damn offensive).
[Video]
Context please...
This scene was part of a series of increasingly over the top fantasies by made up by Cartman in the Fishsticks episode. Since he's portrayed as being anti-semitic among a host of other things that make him out to be the "town asshole" something like this is within his wretched character and not meant to be offensive.
He is, after all, the same character that dressed as Hitler for Halloween, organized a pogrom against red-heads, and blamed the Jewish kid Kyle for 9/11.
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PloniAlmoni Fri, Nov 13, 2009 1:04:21am |
re: #250 ArchangelMichael
You're absolutely correct. Context is important and thank you for providing it. I can totally respect your opinion, but for me I guess I just can't find that funny. I liked South Park a lot, but I don't believe that part (along with a couple of others) was acceptable. I just think the writers crossed the line by putting it in the show.
It's also the reaction of the viewers of that portion of the show that disturb me. After that episode, people I talked to, comments online, and unfortunately most people that watched that show were laughing at the "Jewbots" being burned, not the fact that Cartman is an idiot for having that fantasy. I was just disgusted, but I can understand if other people don't see it that way.
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schmitzik Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:59:59am |
Thank goodness for South Park. They do great social commentary.
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BryanS Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:04:18am |
re: #251 PloniAlmoni
You're absolutely correct. Context is important and thank you for providing it. I can totally respect your opinion, but for me I guess I just can't find that funny. I liked South Park a lot, but I don't believe that part (along with a couple of others) was acceptable. I just think the writers crossed the line by putting it in the show.
It's also the reaction of the viewers of that portion of the show that disturb me. After that episode, people I talked to, comments online, and unfortunately most people that watched that show were laughing at the "Jewbots" being burned, not the fact that Cartman is an idiot for having that fantasy. I was just disgusted, but I can understand if other people don't see it that way.
ArchangelMichael is correct. Cartman is a major asshole and the only character that hates the Jews. And by the way, Matt Stone--one of the creators of the show--is Jewish. Not a religiously observant one, but also not a self loathing one.
South Park rips on everyone. Funny how all the other shows that were offensive to other people did not offend you enough to turn you off, but once it hit home to you, you had enough.
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William of Orange Fri, Nov 13, 2009 10:18:46am |
Any more of this and the "Beck method" (© W. of O.) will be the same kind of running joke like Kanye West's rant against Taylor Swift.
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Nemesis6 Fri, Nov 13, 2009 3:25:10pm |
"This video is NOT available in your country."
Why exactly is it that I'm not allowed to watch it? Is it because the ads don't apply because whatever they're selling isn't available here?
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Timmeh Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:34:57pm |
re: #255 Nemesis6
I can watch it and I'm in Japan. What country are you in?
However I can't watch sites like hulu in Japan.
Like you suggest, it's because the ads don't apply and hulu only purchased the rights to broadcast in the US.
Have you tried South Park Studios? I can watch videos on that site from Japan.
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Hawaii69 Sun, Nov 15, 2009 11:10:00pm |
re: #35 Alouette
Matt and Trey were asked if they were liberals or conservatives. They said neither, but they thought liberals sucked more.
What Matt Stone actually said was "I hate conservatives, but I really fucking hate Liberals"
I love that quote, because my personal
sentiment is exactly the opposite
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PloniAlmoni Sun, Nov 15, 2009 11:57:43pm |
re: #253 BryanS
ArchangelMichael is correct. Cartman is a major asshole and the only character that hates the Jews. And by the way, Matt Stone--one of the creators of the show--is Jewish. Not a religiously observant one, but also not a self loathing one.
South Park rips on everyone. Funny how all the other shows that were offensive to other people did not offend you enough to turn you off, but once it hit home to you, you had enough.
#1 Just because the creator is Jewish, doesn't mean he can't be offensive to Jews. If you believe otherwise, you're really missing a lot of news and history.
#2 It's not about "ripping" on people. This is different. It's not about "hitting home." Making fun of anyone in general is fine. Making fun of the way millions of Jews were murdered only 70 years ago is not okay.
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