Tech Note: RSS Reader Rewritten

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Our left-column Ajax RSS widget, with a drop-down list of news sites and blogs that lets you check out their current RSS feeds, has been completely rewritten. The code now uses PHP’s native SimpleXML object library to parse all three flavors of RSS (0.92, 1.0, and 2.0) or ATOM feeds. Namespacing, XPATH, and attributes, oh my!

Another improvement fixes a small but annoying issue where strange characters would show up in place of em dashes, curly quotes, and other types of punctuation. These odd and ugly characters were caused by a difference in character encoding between the RSS feed and the LGF page where it’s being displayed. Rewriting everything to use my own RSS parsing code instead of an external library (like SimplePIE or MagpieRSS) helped me figure out the real reason for the problem. Once I understood it, the solution was amazingly simple. Just one line of code using the iconv function to convert the characters from UTF-8 to ISO-8859-1 encoding:

$theString = iconv(“UTF-8”, “ISO-8859-1//TRANSLIT”, $theString);

The server-side PHP script also needs to send a ‘Content-Type’ header to set the character encoding to ISO-8859-1, before sending the formatted RSS data back to the calling Javascript routine. This ensures that all of our lovingly parsed characters look presentable.

header(“Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1”);

My RSS script caches the HTML output of each feed for 30 minutes, to avoid abusing anyone’s bandwidth. But if you’re really craving the hottest, freshest news, you can manually refresh the feed before that time limit by clicking the ‘Reload’ button next to the drop-down list.

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1 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 3:41:42pm

Can you say that again, only slower and in english?

///

2 Sharmuta  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 3:42:30pm

Seems to be working as well as it ever was. The removal of the punctuation thingie is greatly appreciated.

3 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 3:43:39pm

Just glad your happy with the PHP 5 Charles, I may not understand any of it, but I'm pleased it is allowing you to improve things. :)

4 Racer X  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 3:43:47pm

I saved money on my car insurance today.

5 Sharmuta  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 3:47:53pm

re: #4 Racer X

I may already be a winner in a clearing house sweepstakes.

6 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 3:51:00pm

As soon as I read up on something here and finally catch up, we get something like this.

And I'm clueless again. Always plenty to bone up on around here.

LOVE IT!

re: #2 Sharmuta

I like the way you describe this stuff!! :)

7 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 3:52:47pm

re: #4 Racer X

I saved money on my car insurance today.

I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night

8 wrenchwench  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 3:53:02pm

The feed for "Discover: Bad Astronomy" says "This feed has errors." I assume the errors on the other end. (I wasn't checking you work, that's what came up when I loaded the page.)

I learned all the computer stuff I know from a kitteh.

9 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 3:53:35pm

PHP class $499.
RSS script class $250

Reading this blog- Priceless.

10 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 3:54:03pm

I don't know what the hell Charles is talking about, but I won't take his efforts for granted...thanks, Charles

11 Irenicum  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 3:55:13pm

Charles, I have absolutely no idea what you wrote above. And I stand in awe.

12 wrenchwench  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 3:55:33pm

+r

^that goes in my comment above.

Preview mocks me.

13 carefulnow  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 3:59:27pm

Not to be ungrateful, but could links like this have a feature whereby you could see where the link was taking you before you actually clicked on it?
With deep gratitude to Charles.

14 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 4:01:37pm

I want a Code buzz

15 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 4:02:34pm

re: #13 carefulnow

The link address should show at the bottom left of your window while your mouse is hovering over it and it is highlighted.

16 carefulnow  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 4:04:30pm

re: #15 ausador

What about in a drop down so I don't have to lose my place?
/I know, I know: do it on your own blog.

17 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 4:11:44pm

quiet as a mouse...speaking of which...
I have a mouse living in a kitchen wall...I can here him in there...
one day I set 4 live traps and he just avoided them, so I set four brand new, old fashioned, break their neck style...a nice dab of peanut butter with a bit of cracker glued to the top...very stiff springs and sensitive too...the first night he ate 2 of the traps clean, not a trace of peanut butter...the next night he got the other 2...I reset all 4 and the same thing happened...he's very very good

18 wrenchwench  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 4:13:57pm

re: #17 albusteve

Maybe it's---not a mouse.

19 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 4:15:32pm

re: #17 albusteve

On the spring traps I always had to tweak the latch plate a bit so that it was almost impossible to even get them to set. Otherwise the mice would just clean them off without tripping them, they really have to be set "hair trigger."

20 carefulnow  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 4:15:35pm

re: #17 albusteve

I heard a mouse scrambling in the wall of my house; it fell from the attic above. It started to stink after a while and so we took a little trip to San Diego.

21 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 4:16:29pm

re: #18 wrenchwench

Maybe it's---not a mouse.

ha!...but I've seen it

22 carefulnow  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 4:16:57pm

Charles builds a better mouse trap and this is what we talk about. Eek!

23 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 4:18:09pm

re: #19 ausador

On the spring traps I always had to tweak the latch plate a bit so that it was almost impossible to even get them to set. Otherwise the mice would just clean them off without tripping them, they really have to be set "hair trigger."

these seem very sensitive to me, like impossible not to set off...and not a trace of peanut butter left...my last resort will require gunfire I think

24 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 4:23:55pm

re: #23 albusteve

I also found that cheddar or American cheese works better than peanut butter, smoosh it onto the bait tang with the warmth of your fingers. Once it has aired a bit and cooled it sticks pretty good and the mouse has to nibble and tug at it...SNAP!

25 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 4:26:16pm

rock-a-bye baby...
here's my rockin baby...

[Link: farm2.static.flickr.com...]

Image: R405_74484.jpg

only 456 made and I've been told there is one in Albuquerque...I'm on a mission to find this rare car and photograph it

26 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 4:27:54pm

re: #24 ausador

I also found that cheddar or American cheese works better than peanut butter, smoosh it onto the bait tang with the warmth of your fingers. Once it has aired a bit and cooled it sticks pretty good and the mouse has to nibble and tug at it...SNAP!

I will try that...I've caught many mice with these old fashioned traps and never once have seen this

27 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 4:28:51pm

re: #25 albusteve

61 Impala SS btw

28 Decatur Deb  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 4:34:18pm

re: #25 albusteve

rock-a-bye baby...
here's my rockin baby...

[Link: farm2.static.flickr.com...]

[Link: www.rayskillmanclassics.com...]

only 456 made and I've been told there is one in Albuquerque...I'm on a mission to find this rare car and photograph it

There was one of those here in town, but it went Cash for Clunkers.
/

29 freetoken  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 4:35:01pm

One of the favorite ID'ers is back... this time using the Ft. Hood attack to compare Darwin to Islam:

Do Ideas Have Consequences Only When They're Associated with Radical Islam?

My own view is that when you are taking the measure of an idea -- let's say Islam, or Darwinism -- it's a good rule of thumb at least to consider the relationship between it and its consequences, judged by the behavior of people who espouse the idea and publicly proclaim themselves as acting upon it.

Now that is a two edged sword if there ever was one.

30 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 4:37:11pm

re: #28 Decatur Deb

There was one of those here in town, but it went Cash for Clunkers.
/

easily a 100+k car...can't be many left

31 jaunte  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 4:40:26pm

re: #29 freetoken

He starts right off with a category error, conveniently labeled:

Categories: Other Faiths


[Link: blog.beliefnet.com...]

32 Decatur Deb  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 4:40:32pm

re: #30 albusteve

easily a 100+k car...can't be many left

They made only 120 of mine--and it's still only worth 5k.

Image: Picture080med.jpg

33 Ojoe  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 4:42:10pm

Pink sunset clouds from the Towercam. San Gabriel Mountains of California.

Nature Break.

34 Ojoe  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 4:45:53pm

re: #33 Ojoe

drag the image into a photo editor & boost the contrast.

35 Decatur Deb  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 4:47:16pm

If this is the right thread for tech questions, I've got a couple:

1) When I log out of the thread screen, but leave Spy open. It still
refreshes for 20 minutes or more. I don't see that as important, but
it's quirky.

2) My "new comments" button often fails to indicate fresh comments until
I randomly hit it. That might be my end, since I've had a lot of refresh
hangs.

3) What are the methods and protocol for posting links?

36 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 4:51:11pm

re: #35 Decatur Deb

3) What are the methods and protocol for posting links?


Some people will complain about posting off topic links too early in the thread. Depending on how fast of slow the thread is moving it might be best to wait for 50 or 100 comments before going off topic. Other than that most people will some a small excerpt and it's usually customary to not alter the original headline. Other than that there aren't really a lot of rules.

37 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 4:51:19pm

re: #32 Decatur Deb

They made only 120 of mine--and it's still only worth 5k.

[Link: i59.photobucket.com...]

I can't see the picture at work. Was it a Yugo SuperSport?

38 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 4:53:06pm

How To: Correctly Eat A Chicken Wing

I’ve been eating chicken wings wrong my whole life. I’m just glad I found this out now. I love chicken wings and since I don’t eat much sugar, chicken wings are my vice. I eat them almost daily.

Youtube Video
39 Decatur Deb  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 4:53:17pm

re: #36 Killgore Trout

Thanks--but I wasn't clear. I meant the "out-of-thread" links like the
Anita Dunn Header.

40 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 4:53:17pm

re: #36 Killgore Trout

Some people will complain about posting off topic links too early in the thread. Depending on how fast of slow the thread is moving it might be best to wait for 50 or 100 comments before going off topic. Other than that most people will some a small excerpt and it's usually customary to not alter the original headline. Other than that there aren't really a lot of rules.

Tech Note threads like this can also be viewed as open threads if you were wondering about this thread in particular.

41 Digital Display  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 4:54:01pm

I've been running Windows 7 on a spare laptop for a couple of hours...I am getting very frustrated..
MS has dumbed down everything just like every freaking version.. Now I have to turn on the Command prompt..Every option acts like I am stupid..Oh it's pretty alright...real pretty...Right now..I hate it...I suppose in a few weeks I'll adjust...But for a power user I feel lost and pissed off...
I am this close to switching to a Mac again...I can't even go on-line with it cause I joined a Domain at work and now I can't switch to a home network mode...Grrr...

42 Decatur Deb  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 4:54:30pm

re: #37 CyanSnowHawk

No, Belgian Army Landrover, 24volt, TWO wheel drive. (Guess they
didn't plan to fight in the mud.)

43 reine.de.tout  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 4:55:48pm

re: #17 albusteve

quiet as a mouse...speaking of which...
I have a mouse living in a kitchen wall...I can here him in there...
one day I set 4 live traps and he just avoided them, so I set four brand new, old fashioned, break their neck style...a nice dab of peanut butter with a bit of cracker glued to the top...very stiff springs and sensitive too...the first night he ate 2 of the traps clean, not a trace of peanut butter...the next night he got the other 2...I reset all 4 and the same thing happened...he's very very good

Your answer:
Get a cat.
One of mine came bounding in through the open window last week with a dead mouse. Ew.

44 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 4:56:11pm

re: #39 Decatur Deb

Ah, just put you article in the correct category. Other than that it's all pretty simple.

45 Clemente  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 4:59:52pm

Capitalism takes an interesting turn in the Middle Kingdom -

Chinese greet 'Oba Mao' with flaming statue, fakes

...

One Beijing shop owner wanted to see what Obama could do for sales. Liu Mingjie created "Oba Mao" T-shirts, with the president wearing the uniform of the Red Guards, who caused chaos during the Cultural Revolution in the 1960s.

"It's just kind of avant garde," Liu said of the images, saying they were no longer political, just fashion.

He sold hundreds of the shirts, to both foreigners and Chinese, until authorities told shops selling the shirts to stop.

"They're not allowed to sell these things because there are images of Obama wearing the uniform of the Red Army," a woman answering the phone at the Dongcheng district Administration for Commerce and Industry said Thursday.

...

46 Decatur Deb  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:00:02pm

re: #44 Killgore Trout

Ah, just put you article in the correct category. Other than that it's all pretty simple.

No guidelines on appropriateness, commercial content, etc?

47 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:00:22pm

re: #42 Decatur Deb

No, Belgian Army Landrover, 24volt, TWO wheel drive. (Guess they
didn't plan to fight in the mud.)

4x4 probably not in the Request for Proposal and then they took the lowest bidder.

What I want to know, is who thought a 6x6 was a good idea? We had a few of these in the Quarterhorse (1/4 CAV) motor pool when I was there.

48 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:01:59pm

re: #43 reine.de.tout

Your answer:
Get a cat.
One of mine came bounding in through the open window last week with a dead mouse. Ew.

My favorite part is when they drop it at your feet, step back and do the kitteh equivalent of TA-DA!

49 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:02:37pm

re: #46 Decatur Deb

Mostly commons sense stuff: No porn, no links to hate sites or stalker sites. Certain conspiracy theories like Obama's Birth Cert or 9-11 inside job stuff will get deleted.

50 shutdown  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:03:39pm

Anybody in Cleveland want to have lunch tomorrow? I am in town for the day.

51 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:03:55pm

Wall Street Journal is doing a full court press for Palin today. A dozen articles from today alone.

52 Decatur Deb  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:04:54pm

re: #47 CyanSnowHawk

4x4 probably not in the Request for Proposal and then they took the lowest bidder.

What I want to know, is who thought a 6x6 was a good idea? We had a few of these in the Quarterhorse (1/4 CAV) motor pool when I was there.

Re the Belgians: Yes, but they must have paid more for such a small run.

Re Gamma *spit* Goat: I was new to Army safety pgm (Ft. Knox) in that
era. The goat, the Goer, and the 151 had to be a commie plot.

53 Sharmuta  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:05:20pm

re: #50 imp_62

Anybody in Cleveland want to have lunch tomorrow? I am in town for the day.

Sure, but I'm in Tulsa. Can we meet half way? ;p

54 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:05:59pm

re: #43 reine.de.tout

Your answer:
Get a cat.
One of mine came bounding in through the open window last week with a dead mouse. Ew.

I absolutely love cats, wild ones...a hearty cat would thrive where I am but I'm gone too much...so I'll live with Mighty Mouse for a while yet I guess...I'm impressed

55 Racer X  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:06:13pm

re: #41 HoosierHoops

No one does bloat-ware like Microsoft

56 shutdown  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:06:33pm

re: #53 Sharmuta

Sure; you start driving and I will meet you ;]

57 shutdown  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:08:18pm

Gotta run to dinner.

58 Clemente  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:08:29pm

re: #17 albusteve

quiet as a mouse...speaking of which...
I have a mouse living in a kitchen wall...I can here him in there...
one day I set 4 live traps and he just avoided them, so I set four brand new, old fashioned, break their neck style...a nice dab of peanut butter with a bit of cracker glued to the top...very stiff springs and sensitive too...the first night he ate 2 of the traps clean, not a trace of peanut butter...the next night he got the other 2...I reset all 4 and the same thing happened...he's very very good

Bait and set two traps, then if you can carefully rest the edge of the business end of one trap, on the bait cup of the other, without setting off either one, you'll get him.

59 Digital Display  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:09:58pm

re: #50 imp_62

Anybody in Cleveland want to have lunch tomorrow? I am in town for the day.

Come to Indy! We'll go to dinner..Catch a game and shoot up the joint at the 8 sec saloon, Make it rain with the strippers like all good Hoosiers ballers...
*wink*

60 Digital Display  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:11:04pm

re: #55 Racer X

No one does bloat-ware like Microsoft

I can't pull an IP tonight on Windows 7.. Pissed me off

61 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:11:52pm

re: #52 Decatur Deb

Re the Belgians: Yes, but they must have paid more for such a small run.

Re Gamma *spit* Goat: I was new to Army safety pgm (Ft. Knox) in that
era. The goat, the Goer, and the 151 had to be a commie plot.

I remember them all. None of them fondly. A friend rolled a 151 with his CO in it. He didn't get to drive the CO anywhere after that.

62 Decatur Deb  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:13:48pm

re: #61 CyanSnowHawk

I remember them all. None of them fondly. A friend rolled a 151 with his CO in it. He didn't get to drive the CO anywhere after that.

I've seen a sworn statement, w/ witnesses, that a CPT rolled one at
8 MPH in a parking lot. DoT wouldn't let the Army sell them in one piece.

63 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:14:08pm

re: #45 Clemente

Capitalism takes an interesting turn in the Middle Kingdom -

Chinese greet 'Oba Mao' with flaming statue, fakes

Gotta love the modern PRC. Mao stuff is okay as kitsch for the tourists, but is not cool for a variety of reasons when applied to the current Pres. They're not completely unaware of the controversies surrounding his policies, and would do anything to avoid embarrassing him.

64 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:14:08pm

re: #58 Clemente

Bait and set two traps, then if you can carefully rest the edge of the business end of one trap, on the bait cup of the other, without setting off either one, you'll get him.

thanks for that...I'll try it, with cheese this time

65 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:15:06pm

re: #64 albusteve

thanks for that...I'll try it, with cheese this time

Two words: Glue trap. They're terrible and inhumane, so make sure you check it a couple times a day and if you do catch the little fellow, dispatch him quickly and as painlessly as possible.

66 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:16:08pm

Glenn Beck - Why Did Most Blacks Vote For Obama?

Youtube Video

He did a whole show on black issues today. Not sure if I'm going to bother watching. I assume if he did anything interesting the lefties will catch it.

67 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:16:21pm

re: #65 Guanxi88

Two words: Glue trap. They're terrible and inhumane, so make sure you check it a couple times a day and if you do catch the little fellow, dispatch him quickly and as painlessly as possible.

I have tried poison yet either...

68 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:16:37pm

re: #60 HoosierHoops

I can't pull an IP tonight on Windows 7.. Pissed me off

I love the new Mac commercials.

This one will fix all the problems of the previous version.

Even though I still won't join the Cult of Mac.

69 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:19:11pm

re: #67 albusteve

I have tried poison yet either...

Problem with poison baits is they die in the most inconvenient places. Maximum ventilation, minimum accessibility.

70 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:19:57pm

re: #51 Killgore Trout

Wall Street Journal is doing a full court press for Palin today. A dozen articles from today alone.

Geez, they sound as bad as FNC. Yep, lotta blog postings, a book review, hell, it sounds like they're four-square behind her, as is everyone else who makes note of the impending release of a purported memoir by one of the most divisive figures in recent political history.

71 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:20:52pm

re: #67 albusteve

I have tried poison yet either...

Don't do poison. It's inhumane if they don't get enough, is hazardous to have around, and the pest might crawl off and die somewhere inaccessible and you've got a stinking biohazard on your hands.

72 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:21:36pm

re: #70 Guanxi88

Geez, they sound as bad as FNC. Yep, lotta blog postings, a book review, hell, it sounds like they're four-square behind her, as is everyone else who makes note of the impending release of a purported memoir by one of the most divisive figures in recent political history.

They do know how to draw eyeballs to their pages, and that's what it's all about, isn't it?

73 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:22:01pm

re: #72 CyanSnowHawk

They do know how to draw eyeballs to their pages, and that's what it's all about, isn't it?

Yep, but evidently, that's evidence of a problem. Seems to me it's good business.

74 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:22:15pm

re: #70 Guanxi88

Is Fox pushing Palin stories today too? They're both Rupert Murdoch so I guess it's not surprising.

75 Decatur Deb  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:22:26pm

re: #51 Killgore Trout

Wall Street Journal is doing a full court press for Palin today. A dozen articles from today alone.

Those are intelligent people. They have to know every mention helps
the Dems.

76 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:23:15pm

re: #74 Killgore Trout

Is Fox pushing Palin stories today too? They're both Rupert Murdoch so I guess it's not surprising.

Haven't checked yet. You might want to see, though. I wouldn't put it past them to try to cross-promote a successful product through a variety of brand outlets.

77 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:24:19pm

re: #72 CyanSnowHawk

They do know how to draw eyeballs to their pages, and that's what it's all about, isn't it?

What am I doing wrong then?

/Beside pretty much everything

78 Bagua  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:25:03pm

re: #17 albusteve


I have a mouse living in a kitchen wall...

Keg of good beer, slab of cheese, ribs on the barbie and a shotgun...


you won't catch the mouse but you'll have a good evening and the mouse will appreciate the scraps you leave after you pass out.

79 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:25:15pm

re: #17 albusteve

quiet as a mouse...speaking of which...
I have a mouse living in a kitchen wall...I can here him in there...
one day I set 4 live traps and he just avoided them, so I set four brand new, old fashioned, break their neck style...a nice dab of peanut butter with a bit of cracker glued to the top...very stiff springs and sensitive too...the first night he ate 2 of the traps clean, not a trace of peanut butter...the next night he got the other 2...I reset all 4 and the same thing happened...he's very very good

Why not make it sporting? Go get an air rifle, fashion yourself a ghillie suit, and spend a night laying on your kitchen floor peering through a night-vision scope.

Seriously, though. The pb will work eventually. I've caught three this year.

80 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:25:43pm

re: #67 albusteve

A drop of bacon grease works well. They have to lick it off the trap.
*whack*

81 webevintage  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:25:52pm

I was wondering about the "RNC pays for abortion coverage in insurance" story and it seems like Steel is/has said he will stop it now, but I thought you can't just change the insurance you offer your employees at the drop of a hat.
Right?
Don't they have to wait till the policy period is over with and it is time for the employees to re-up?

82 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:25:55pm

re: #71 Guanxi88

Don't do poison. It's inhumane if they don't get enough, is hazardous to have around, and the pest might crawl off and die somewhere inaccessible and you've got a stinking biohazard on your hands.

I won't use poison, but it is an option altho not a good one for a bunkhouse

83 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:26:11pm

re: #77 Fenway_Nation

What am I doing wrong then?

/Beside pretty much everything

Do more of that, and then post under other names about how outrageous it is that some blogger would stoop to using half-naked images of nubile young women with guns. You'll get a million hits in no time.

Oh, and use the photos with the highest resolution and largest picture size possible, for the inevitable click-throughs.

84 webevintage  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:26:30pm

re: #80 Floral Giraffe

A drop of bacon grease works well. They have to lick it off the trap.
*whack*

Bacon grease have worked the best for us, that plus a couple of cats.

85 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:27:03pm

re: #84 webevintage

how do you keep the cats out of the mouse trap?

86 Digital Display  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:27:25pm

re: #68 CyanSnowHawk

I love the new Mac commercials.

This one will fix all the problems of the previous version.

Even though I still won't join the Cult of Mac.

I tried to pull an IP through the Command prompt...But no It thinks I want a bluetooth IP and can't find one.. No shit Windows..You are plugged into a cable Modem...This means the binding is in the wrong order in Network properties...I'll fix it..But it so frustrating...There is a way to do this in a higher level but I am used to low level commands...Microsoft treats it's users as dumbasses..Give me this weekend and I'll figure it out..
I'll be a good boy and use a high level wizard...grrr

87 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:27:32pm

re: #84 webevintage

Bacon grease have worked the best for us, that plus a couple of cats.

But did the cats or the traps get them?

88 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:27:32pm

re: #83 Guanxi88

Oh? I thought the mistake I was making was that the nubile young women were still dressed.

89 Decatur Deb  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:28:11pm

re: #81 webevintage

I was wondering about the "RNC pays for abortion coverage in insurance" story and it seems like Steel is/has said he will stop it now, but I thought you can't just change the insurance you offer your employees at the drop of a hat.
Right?
Don't they have to wait till the policy period is over with and it is time for the employees to re-up?

The Dept of Labor can help them with that.

90 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:28:22pm

re: #85 Rightwingconspirator

how do you keep the cats out of the mouse trap?

That's what the dog is for. Then you need a chimp to keep the dog away from the cat and the trap. To keep the chimp in line, you'll need to get a gorilla, who can be kept at bay by a lion, who can in turn be kept under control by Sigfried and Roy, who cannot be controlled by anyone or anything known to man.

91 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:28:50pm

re: #80 Floral Giraffe

A drop of bacon grease works well. They have to lick it off the trap.
*whack*

these traps have perforated plastic 'trays' for the bait...I squished the peanut butter on there real good...I know you wont believe it but there is utterly no trace of it, or the cracker...hold it up in the light, no tongue marks, no nothing

92 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:29:06pm

re: #90 Guanxi88
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!

93 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:29:46pm

re: #92 Rightwingconspirator

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!

This is why pest control is left to the experts, cause that sounds pretty reasonable to me.

94 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:30:55pm

re: #91 albusteve

I believe it. The three I got (so far) ate peanut butter for a couple weeks before they started slipping up.

They got lazy.

They dropped their guard.

95 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:31:15pm

re: #90 Guanxi88

That's what the dog is for. Then you need a chimp to keep the dog away from the cat and the trap. To keep the chimp in line, you'll need to get a gorilla, who can be kept at bay by a lion, who can in turn be kept under control by Sigfried and Roy, who cannot be controlled by anyone or anything known to man.

(can everyone see why the wife does not put me in charge of home-improvement or maintenance projects?)

96 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:31:35pm

re: #90 Guanxi88

It always escalates.

97 Decatur Deb  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:31:52pm

re: #94 Noam Sayin'

I believe it. The three I got (so far) ate peanut butter for a couple weeks before they started slipping up.

They got lazy.

They dropped their guard.

And, they were blind.

98 Racer X  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:32:17pm

re: #90 Guanxi88

That's what the dog is for. Then you need a chimp to keep the dog away from the cat and the trap. To keep the chimp in line, you'll need to get a gorilla, who can be kept at bay by a lion, who can in turn be kept under control by Sigfried and Roy, who cannot be controlled by anyone or anything known to man.

Two words:

Chuck Norris.

99 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:33:35pm

re: #76 Guanxi88

Haven't checked yet. You might want to see, though. I wouldn't put it past them to try to cross-promote a successful product through a variety of brand outlets.

Not to mention that since Palin is a celebrity, or at least a household name, everybody is going to be covering it.

A brief survey of web pages right now.
ABC is all over it.
CBS has a headline about her visiting Ft. Hood.
Didn't see anything on USA Today front page.
CNN has it (Right next to a balloon boy headline).
Fox didn't have anything on the front page until the bottom promo for Hannity.
MSNBC has a video link about it.

So yeah, most everybody is on it.

100 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:33:41pm

re: #96 Noam Sayin'

It always escalates.

That's the problem right there. Take my case. When I got married, the wife had a hamster. We moved, got a few guinea pigs, moved again, got a cat and our first child. Moved again and got another cat, a pond full of goldfish, and another kid. Then got another kid, a rabbit, and a fire-bellied toad. I figure in five more years, I'll have a fully-functioning, but oddly arranged ecosystem in my house.

101 freetoken  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:33:56pm

re: #98 Racer X

Chuck Norris is so tough that when he says "jump", Sigfried and Roy say "how high?"

102 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:33:58pm

re: #94 Noam Sayin'

I believe it. The three I got (so far) ate peanut butter for a couple weeks before they started slipping up.

They got lazy.

They dropped their guard.

got fat...I'm not waiting...no fucking mouse is gonna out fox me...
4 traps, this time with a fine, aged Wisconsin chedder squashed into the tray thing...one trap balanced on another...and the are fined tuned to a hair trigger...we'll see

103 Decatur Deb  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:35:17pm

re: #102 albusteve

got fat...I'm not waiting...no fucking mouse is gonna out fox me...
4 traps, this time with a fine, aged Wisconsin chedder squashed into the tray thing...one trap balanced on another...and the are fined tuned to a hair trigger...we'll see

Have you tried bribing the mouse warlord?

104 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:37:00pm

re: #102 albusteve

got fat...I'm not waiting...no fucking mouse is gonna out fox me...
4 traps, this time with a fine, aged Wisconsin chedder squashed into the tray thing...one trap balanced on another...and the are fined tuned to a hair trigger...we'll see

There's one other thing you might try, as a last resort, to get rid of the bugger. It's dangerous, but it works every time it's tried. There is a novelty contact explosive that can be made with stuff you pick up at the drug store that, once dry, can be set off by the lightest vibration or change in pressure. I once used a few pieces, the size of grains of rice, atop pieces of cheese, to rid a basement of rats.

Any vibration, and it explodes. Rat touches bat, BOOM! If rat is close enough, it kills, if not, then it scares the holy hell outta the critter and he don't come back.

105 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:37:13pm

Old and Busted:Death Panels
Hot and New: Dog Panels!

Glenn Beck claims health care bill includes insurance for dogs

"Do you know in the health care bill, we're now offering insurance for dogs," Beck said. "Do I need to say any more?"

Actually yes. Keep going.

"If you are somebody who is like, 'Well, I just, I'm struggling and we're barely making ends meet,' I'm not paying for your dog cardiologist!" Beck said. "Not gonna do it. I'm sorry, the dog goes nighty night."

There was some discussion between Beck and his executive producer about their own dogs' medical issues, whether or not they have pet insurance, and whether the Obama administration is putting animals on par with humans.

Like so many claims in the health care debate, Beck has taken a kernel of something in the bill and spun it to an absurd conclusion.

106 Sharmuta  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:37:28pm

Prep the trap with peanut butter and chow mein noodles.

Let is sit a couple days to harden.

Set and place trap.

Wait.

107 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:37:56pm

re: #103 Decatur Deb

Have you tried bribing the mouse warlord?

I have a squirrel that wanders through my house nosing around...he has some manners and I leave peanuts outside for him...this mouse shits on top of my stove...no where else...little black shits...pisses me off

108 Decatur Deb  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:38:11pm

re: #104 Guanxi88

There's one other thing you might try, as a last resort, to get rid of the bugger. It's dangerous, but it works every time it's tried. There is a novelty contact explosive that can be made with stuff you pick up at the drug store that, once dry, can be set off by the lightest vibration or change in pressure. I once used a few pieces, the size of grains of rice, atop pieces of cheese, to rid a basement of rats.

Any vibration, and it explodes. Rat touches bat, BOOM! If rat is close enough, it kills, if not, then it scares the holy hell outta the critter and he don't come back.

Is that an Acme product?

109 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:39:24pm

re: #105 Killgore Trout

Old and Busted:Death Panels
Hot and New: Dog Panels!

Glenn Beck claims health care bill includes insurance for dogs

That link contains a nasty and actionable libel in it. Did you notice it? Not the actual text, but the link that leads to it. look at the link itself.

110 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:39:49pm

re: #104 Guanxi88

There's one other thing you might try, as a last resort, to get rid of the bugger. It's dangerous, but it works every time it's tried. There is a novelty contact explosive that can be made with stuff you pick up at the drug store that, once dry, can be set off by the lightest vibration or change in pressure. I once used a few pieces, the size of grains of rice, atop pieces of cheese, to rid a basement of rats.

Any vibration, and it explodes. Rat touches bat, BOOM! If rat is close enough, it kills, if not, then it scares the holy hell outta the critter and he don't come back.

wow!...blow it to hell with a bomb!...never thought of that

111 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:40:13pm

re: #108 Decatur Deb

Is that an Acme product?

If only! No, you gotta make it on your own. Any chemistry book for high schoolers from before about 1970 would have it in there.

112 reine.de.tout  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:41:23pm

re: #48 CyanSnowHawk

My favorite part is when they drop it at your feet, step back and do the kitteh equivalent of TA-DA!

We get an amazing assortment of gifts from our cats.
Plus they're just fun.

We have one cat that just showed up a few months ago, we've been feeding him, and I've been worried about what to do during the winter cold months - figured if we let him in with the other 4 cats there would be a riot. Well, it got chilly last night and yes, we let him in, and no - there was no riot, once everyone had laid claim to their "spot", all was calm.

113 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:41:32pm

re: #110 albusteve

wow!...blow it to hell with a bomb!...never thought of that

It's a last resort tactic, because you'll hear BANG! in the middle of the night when it goes off. A piece the size of a grain of rice sounds about like a firecracker, and bigger pieces aren't safe to make or use.

114 Decatur Deb  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:41:53pm

re: #111 Guanxi88

If only! No, you gotta make it on your own. Any chemistry book for high schoolers from before about 1970 would have it in there.

I was about to make a good guess, but honestly didn't want flag words
on LGF. Ah reality.

115 freetoken  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:42:04pm

Since this is a tech thread...

Control you car with your iPhone!

Youtube Video
116 swamprat  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:44:05pm

re: #97 Decatur Deb

And, they were blind.

Bait doesn't matter. Use thread wrapped tightly around the "trigger" part. Wrap it so it goes through the bait and is imbeded in it thoroughly. They will catch their teeth in it-done.
But poison works and works well.

117 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:45:16pm

re: #109 Guanxi88

That link contains a nasty and actionable libel in it. Did you notice it? Not the actual text, but the link that leads to it. look at the link itself.


Wow. Nice catch! I thought it was odd that they didn't link to the audio. I wonder if the story's a hoax google bomb type thing.

118 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:45:35pm

re: #114 Decatur Deb

I was about to make a good guess, but honestly didn't want flag words
on LGF. Ah reality.

Yep. I don't want disreputable nincompoops making trouble for anyone. More so, mostly, in fact, in a public forum.

119 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:46:07pm

re: #116 swamprat

Bait doesn't matter. Use thread wrapped tightly around the "trigger" part. Wrap it so it goes through the bait and is imbeded in it thoroughly. They will catch their teeth in it-done.
But poison works and works well.

hey...good idea

120 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:46:09pm

re: #117 Killgore Trout

Wow. Nice catch! I thought it was odd that they didn't link to the audio. I wonder if the story's a hoax google bomb type thing.

Now that's above my pay grade, but it's weird.

121 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:46:42pm

re: #117 Killgore Trout

Wow. Nice catch! I thought it was odd that they didn't link to the audio. I wonder if the story's a hoax google bomb type thing.

Wow, that's the St. Pete times. Decent paper. They claim to have won a Pulitzer. Very odd.

122 bratwurst  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:46:59pm

re: #118 Guanxi88

Yep. I don't want disreputable nincompoops making trouble for anyone. More so, mostly, in fact, in a public forum.

I shall be sending you a bill for cleaning Newcastle Brown off of my keyboard, sir.

123 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:47:25pm

re: #122 bratwurst

I shall be sending you a bill for cleaning Newcastle Brown off of my keyboard, sir.

Just send me the Newcastle.

124 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:47:54pm

re: #120 Guanxi88

Hmmm...I don't know what to make of that.

125 reine.de.tout  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:48:06pm

re: #102 albusteve

got fat...I'm not waiting...no fucking mouse is gonna out fox me...
4 traps, this time with a fine, aged Wisconsin chedder squashed into the tray thing...one trap balanced on another...and the are fined tuned to a hair trigger...we'll see

steve - have you seen this movie, Mouse Hunt?

126 bratwurst  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:49:24pm

re: #123 Guanxi88

Just send me the Newcastle.

Just poured it into an envelope. Look for it early next week.

127 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:49:58pm

re: #124 Killgore Trout

Hmmm...I don't know what to make of that.

Tell you what's weird. I think someone else posted the link to this legitimate article here:

[Link: www.politifact.com...]

but then added the referral tag (/?) to google bomb the offending language.

Pretty slick. The story's real though.

128 reine.de.tout  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:49:58pm

re: #109 Guanxi88

That link contains a nasty and actionable libel in it. Did you notice it? Not the actual text, but the link that leads to it. look at the link itself.

Oh, my!
Yes it does

129 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:50:03pm

re: #125 reine.de.tout

steve - have you seen this movie, Mouse Hunt?

no...maybe I should eh?...killing one mouse is turning into an obsession real quick

130 reine.de.tout  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:51:02pm

re: #129 albusteve

no...maybe I should eh?...killing one mouse is turning into an obsession real quick

hahaha!
Then you should see the movie.
an obsession with getting rid of one mouse.

131 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:51:31pm

re: #127 Guanxi88

Tell you what's weird. I think someone else posted the link to this legitimate article here:

[Link: www.politifact.com...]

but then added the referral tag (/?) to google bomb the offending language.

Pretty slick. The story's real though.

132 Cato the Elder  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:51:39pm

Charles, will we be able to do exotic stuff like Cyrillic under the new PHP 5 régime?

133 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:51:48pm

What the hell? I just quoted my own post?

134 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:52:14pm

re: #127 Guanxi88

Tell you what's weird. I think someone else posted the link to this legitimate article here:

[Link: www.politifact.com...]

but then added the referral tag (/?) to google bomb the offending language.

Pretty slick. The story's real though.

dog insurance?...how is this a front line story?...or are you just practicing for the big one?...hahaha!...sorry

135 Decatur Deb  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:52:57pm

re: #132 Cato the Elder

Charles, will we be able to do exotic stuff like Cyrillic under the new PHP 5 régime?

Cyrill can just take his nasty habits elsewhere.

136 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:53:00pm

re: #133 Guanxi88

What the hell? I just quoted my own post?

Beck does that to some people...maybe you need a vacation

137 bratwurst  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:54:07pm

re: #132 Cato the Elder

Charles, will we be able to do exotic stuff like Cyrillic under the new PHP 5 régime?

Я знаю не.

138 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:54:44pm

re: #134 albusteve

dog insurance?...how is this a front line story?...or are you just practicing for the big one?...hahaha!...sorry

I was referring to KGT's posting earlier, and the neat trick tucked into the referral section.

139 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:54:55pm

re: #127 Guanxi88

Ah, I got the link from fark. Musta been somebody over there.

140 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:56:30pm

re: #137 bratwurst

Я знаю не.

ya dumaio shto nyet. Nichevo nikogdau budit kyrilliski texti v etovo blogu.

141 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:57:25pm

re: #121 Killgore Trout

Wow, that's the St. Pete times. Decent paper. They claim to have won a Pulitzer. Very odd.

I went straight to Politifact (good site) and it wasn't in the address line. Where did you link it from? Was it direct from Politifact?

142 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:59:17pm

re: #141 Stanley Sea

I went straight to Politifact (good site) and it wasn't in the address line. Where did you link it from? Was it direct from Politifact?

He pulled the link from fark. Some farkster dumped it into the referral space in the url.

143 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:59:24pm

re: #141 Stanley Sea

Somebody at fark added that to the URL. It does seem the story is probably real.

144 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:59:38pm

re: #142 Guanxi88

He pulled the link from fark. Some farkster dumped it into the referral space in the url.

Oh those kids!

145 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:59:52pm

re: #143 Killgore Trout

Somebody at fark added that to the URL. It does seem the story is probably real.

If not, then the St. pete's got haXXord.

146 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:00:28pm

I would be pretty bummed if politifact went bogus.

147 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:00:43pm

re: #144 Stanley Sea

Oh those kids!

I know, always googling their iPods or tweeting something or other.

148 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:00:58pm

re: #138 Guanxi88

I was referring to KGT's posting earlier, and the neat trick tucked into the referral section.

I know that...I think Glenn Beck has you just where he wants you...more exposure than he ever dreamed from so few people...think about it, I'm sure he loves all the attention when folks read this then go over to his show to see what's up...there is no one to refute him there so he's just sucking in new watchers

149 SixDegrees  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:00:59pm

re: #105 Killgore Trout

Old and Busted:Death Panels
Hot and New: Dog Panels!

Glenn Beck claims health care bill includes insurance for dogs

What's really confusing is why Beck bothers making up this outrageous claim, when the actual contents of the bill he's spinning out of control are outrageous enough all by themselves. Why on earth should taxpayer dollars collected to pay for health care be used to subsidize loans for veterinarians?

To Congress: overreach much? This is why health care is thought to be a disaster in the making: you're using it, not to solve medical distribution problems, but as a shiny new pot of money you can dip your grubby, corrupt paws into to pay for all manner of unrelated projects, in a program so large and complex that fraud and waste are easily buried so deep they're irretrievable.

Assholes.

And Beck: you're an even larger asshole for taking a valid criticism of this bill and turning it into shit chowder. Fucktard.

150 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:02:21pm

re: #148 albusteve

I know that...I think Glenn Beck has you just where he wants you...more exposure than he ever dreamed from so few people...think about it, I'm sure he loves all the attention when folks read this then go over to his show to see what's up...there is no one to refute him there so he's just sucking in new watchers

I got no beef with him. Not my cuppa tea, though the wife likes him, for entertainment, she says. Bully for him, though! Why shouldn't he make money, especially when your dollar goes so far in a recession. Wish I had a racket like his, I tell you what.

151 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:03:30pm

re: #149 SixDegrees

What's really confusing is why Beck bothers making up this outrageous claim, when the actual contents of the bill he's spinning out of control are outrageous enough all by themselves. Why on earth should taxpayer dollars collected to pay for health care be used to subsidize loans for veterinarians?

To Congress: overreach much? This is why health care is thought to be a disaster in the making: you're using it, not to solve medical distribution problems, but as a shiny new pot of money you can dip your grubby, corrupt paws into to pay for all manner of unrelated projects, in a program so large and complex that fraud and waste are easily buried so deep they're irretrievable.

Assholes.

And Beck: you're an even larger asshole for taking a valid criticism of this bill and turning it into shit chowder. Fucktard.

hahahahoot!...well said...Beck doesn't care as long as people tune in

152 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:03:37pm

re: #149 SixDegrees

I agree. It's a complicated issue but conservatives have lost me with dishonest claims about the bill. It makes me wonder if there's just not enough real legitimate criticism.

153 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:03:43pm

re: #149 SixDegrees

What's really confusing is why Beck bothers making up this outrageous claim, when the actual contents of the bill he's spinning out of control are outrageous enough all by themselves. Why on earth should taxpayer dollars collected to pay for health care be used to subsidize loans for veterinarians?

To Congress: overreach much? This is why health care is thought to be a disaster in the making: you're using it, not to solve medical distribution problems, but as a shiny new pot of money you can dip your grubby, corrupt paws into to pay for all manner of unrelated projects, in a program so large and complex that fraud and waste are easily buried so deep they're irretrievable.

Assholes.

And Beck: you're an even larger asshole for taking a valid criticism of this bill and turning it into shit chowder. Fucktard.

Best of all, invocation of his name, in an updated version of Godwin's Law, shuts down all debate. The lefties don't have to answer any questions at all.

154 abolitionist  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:04:21pm

re: #109 Guanxi88

Due to limited horizontal resolution, at first I couldn't see what you were getting at. Rightmost part of link was truncated. Tried other viewing methods. See it now.

155 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:04:38pm

re: #152 Killgore Trout

I agree. It's a complicated issue but conservatives have lost me with dishonest claims about the bill. It makes me wonder if there's just not enough real legitimate criticism.

There is legitimate criticism, but if it's brought up, we get treated to reductio ad beckham arguments, and things stop cold right there.

156 Decatur Deb  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:05:06pm

re: #149 SixDegrees

Why on earth should taxpayer dollars collected to pay for health care be used to subsidize loans for veterinarians?

This is sunny-side-up, but it could be a Homeland Security add-in. Vets
will be front-and-center if some craphead makes a good run at the food
supply. Think mad cow.

No sarc. Check out program called ILIAD.

157 freetoken  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:05:24pm

re: #155 Guanxi88

There is legitimate criticism, but if it's brought up, we get treated to reductio ad beckham arguments, and things stop cold right there.

Latin phrases ought to be italicized!

158 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:06:05pm

re: #157 freetoken

Latin phrases ought to be italicized!

Cato's not here now. I can do whatever the hell I want with the language!

(insert evil mad laughter here!)

159 Decatur Deb  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:06:11pm

re: #157 freetoken

Latin phrases ought to be italicized!

You just got on my one romanian nerve.

160 SixDegrees  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:06:17pm

re: #153 Guanxi88

Best of all, invocation of his name, in an updated version of Godwin's Law, shuts down all debate. The lefties don't have to answer any questions at all.

Deservedly so. But someone ought to take a moment to read the section of the bill being tortured here and report on what it actually says, which is just as infuriating and has no place in such legislation.

Two words: Boon. Doggle.

161 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:06:18pm

re: #152 Killgore Trout

I agree. It's a complicated issue but conservatives have lost me with dishonest claims about the bill. It makes me wonder if there's just not enough real legitimate criticism.

some conservatives, some small number of the total number of conservatives in America...I'll say this, you are relentless with your misrepresentation of conservatives

162 freetoken  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:06:21pm

BTW, Beck addressed the SouthPark thing today on his radio show.

163 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:06:49pm

re: #162 freetoken

BTW, Beck addressed the SouthPark thing today on his radio show.

Ya know, you're nobody until South park rips you a new one.

164 McSpiff  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:07:24pm

re: #163 Guanxi88

Did wonders for Tom Cruise.

165 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:08:03pm

re: #155 Guanxi88

There is legitimate criticism, but if it's brought up, we get treated to reductio ad beckham arguments, and things stop cold right there.

It's a shame. I really wish there had been a real debate about the issue. re: #161 albusteve

The conservative blogs, pundits and politicians have lost me.

166 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:08:16pm

some liberals are trying to hijack the health care industry...radical man...those some are in the WH and congress...pretty extreme if you ask me

167 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:08:25pm

re: #161 albusteve

some conservatives, some small number of the total number of conservatives in America...I'll say this, you are relentless with your misrepresentation of conservatives

No, he's quite certain that his version of reality accurately reflects the real world, and appears to think that conservatives as a group, by and large, and certainly, if not for the most part, then undoubtedly as a goodish-sized plurality, are stark raving mad, easily gulled, and fundamentally stupid.

But I still like the guy. Shows how crazy, gullible, and stupid I am.

//

168 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:08:52pm

re: #164 McSpiff

Did wonders for Tom Cruise.

Did he finally come out of the closet?

169 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:09:37pm

re: #165 Killgore Trout

It's a shame. I really wish there had been a real debate about the issue. re: #161 albusteve

The conservative blogs, pundits and politicians have lost me.

And yet, you keep going back to them. If you're convinced they're unreliable, why keep going back?

170 SixDegrees  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:10:05pm

re: #156 Decatur Deb

This is sunny-side-up, but it could be a Homeland Security add-in. Vets
will be front-and-center if some craphead makes a good run at the food
supply. Think mad cow.

No sarc. Check out program called ILIAD.

Why should health care become the pot of gold for every government department looking to pad their expense accounts? This is bullshit, and doesn't belong in such legislation. It calls into question how many other truckloads of crap the bill contains that have no bearing whatsoever on health care as it's being promoted by the bill's sponsors.

If Homeland Security needs funds for some reason, let them make their case and ask for them in their own budget.

171 McSpiff  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:10:48pm

re: #169 Guanxi88

And yet, you keep going back to them. If you're convinced they're unreliable, why keep going back?

Everyone needs a guilty pleasure. I just finished a quarter pounder from McDonald's for example.

172 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:10:49pm

re: #165 Killgore Trout

It's a shame. I really wish there had been a real debate about the issue. re: #161 albusteve

The conservative blogs, pundits and politicians have lost me.

just wait it out and don't get too frustrated...shit happens, the unhappens...blogs and pundits don't rule the country...yet

173 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:10:58pm

re: #170 SixDegrees

Why should health care become the pot of gold for every government department looking to pad their expense accounts? This is bullshit, and doesn't belong in such legislation. It calls into question how many other truckloads of crap the bill contains that have no bearing whatsoever on health care as it's being promoted by the bill's sponsors.

If Homeland Security needs funds for some reason, let them make their case and ask for them in their own budget.

It (Beck's claim) received a "Pants on Fire" rating.

174 Cathypop  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:11:32pm

re: #168 Guanxi88

Did he finally come out of the closet?


I wish he would just for his childrens sake.

175 Decatur Deb  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:11:46pm

re: #170 SixDegrees

Stuffing a moving bill is old school politics.

176 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:11:53pm

re: #171 McSpiff

Everyone needs a guilty pleasure. I just finished a quarter pounder from McDonald's for example.

swell, just pay the Fat Tax and all's well

177 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:11:58pm

re: #170 SixDegrees

Why should health care become the pot of gold for every government department looking to pad their expense accounts? This is bullshit, and doesn't belong in such legislation. It calls into question how many other truckloads of crap the bill contains that have no bearing whatsoever on health care as it's being promoted by the bill's sponsors.

If Homeland Security needs funds for some reason, let them make their case and ask for them in their own budget.

With this WH & this Congress, you could probably have an easier time getting something labelled as health care reform funded than otherwise.

If DoD would just list ammunition, for example, as single-use, high-velocity trepaning devices, they could have all they want.

178 SixDegrees  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:12:38pm

re: #175 Decatur Deb

Stuffing a moving bill is old school politics.

So what? Does that somehow magically make it OK?

179 swamprat  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:13:28pm

re: #162 freetoken

BTW, Beck addressed the SouthPark thing today on his radio show.

I actually find the discussion we had a minute ago, on the proper way to kill a mouse, more interesting.

180 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:13:31pm

re: #175 Decatur Deb

Stuffing a moving bill is old school politics.

time for some rule changes then

181 Decatur Deb  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:13:46pm

re: #177 Guanxi88

(snip)

If DoD would just list ammunition, for example, as single-use, high-velocity trepaning devices, they could have all they want.

Some of our best flash-to-bang stuff isn't in the defense budget.

182 McSpiff  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:14:06pm

re: #176 albusteve

swell, just pay the Fat Tax and all's well

I'll be paying when I hit the road for a jog tomorrow. But that's a problem for future McSpiff(what? I told you guys I was a leftie).

183 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:15:02pm

re: #179 swamprat

I actually find the discussion we had a minute ago, on the proper way to kill a mouse, more interesting.

It's more fun, more relevant to the way most of us live, and is not likely to make the country a worse place than it was before. Back to mice-killing, I say!re: #181 Decatur Deb

Some of our best flash-to-bang stuff isn't in the defense budget.

I know DoE's got some good stuff, among others. it's weird how it gets done, though.

184 Decatur Deb  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:15:20pm

re: #178 SixDegrees

So what? Does that somehow magically make it OK?

No, but it makes it less shocking.

185 Sharmuta  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:15:55pm

re: #179 swamprat

I actually find the discussion we had a minute ago, on the proper way to kill a mouse, more interesting.

What works really well in the garden for mice and chipmunks is buckets of water. What you do is fill a painter's bucket about 3/4 full of water and cover the surface with sunflower seeds. Make sure there is a way for the little buggars to get into the bucket after those seeds, and wait. They're very poor swimmers.

186 SixDegrees  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:16:11pm

re: #184 Decatur Deb

No, but it makes it less shocking.

OK, let's think about that for a minute...

No, you're wrong. It doesn't.

187 Cathypop  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:17:48pm

re: #185 Sharmuta

What works really well in the garden for mice and chipmunks is buckets of water. What you do is fill a painter's bucket about 3/4 full of water and cover the surface with sunflower seeds. Make sure there is a way for the little buggars to get into the bucket after those seeds, and wait. They're very poor swimmers.


Will this work for racoons and deer? I consider them rodents.

188 SixDegrees  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:17:59pm

re: #185 Sharmuta

What works really well in the garden for mice and chipmunks is buckets of water. What you do is fill a painter's bucket about 3/4 full of water and cover the surface with sunflower seeds. Make sure there is a way for the little buggars to get into the bucket after those seeds, and wait. They're very poor swimmers.

Yeah. We murdered a whole bunch of chipmunks that way with a kiddie pool. No seeds; it was involuntary rodentslaughter. We just left the pool filled overnight, and found the multiple victims in the morning.

I don't know about their swimming abilities, but they can't climb on plastic for jack.

189 freetoken  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:18:01pm

CNBC ♥ Ron Paul today.

Check out the last 30 seconds or so, where they encourage Paul to come back for a lengthy exposition of his ideas (e.g., End the Fed.)

190 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:18:35pm

re: #187 Cathypop

Will this work for racoons and deer? I consider them rodents.

Nope, they swim, and swim quite well. For those guys, you gotta reduce food sources for them, or trap and relocate unless there's no other option than to kill them.

191 Sharmuta  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:19:20pm

re: #187 Cathypop

Will this work for racoons and deer? I consider them rodents.

That'll need a bigger bucket, I think.

192 Decatur Deb  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:19:24pm

re: #186 SixDegrees

OK, let's think about that for a minute...

No, you're wrong. It doesn't.

I can't maintain a state of shock for 11 administrations. It wears.

193 SixDegrees  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:20:55pm

re: #192 Decatur Deb

I can't maintain a state of shock for 11 administrations. It wears.

Go stand in a cold shower, and tear up $100 bills for a while, then.

194 Cathypop  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:21:24pm

re: #190 Guanxi88

Nope, they swim, and swim quite well. For those guys, you gotta reduce food sources for them, or trap and relocate unless there's no other option than to kill them.

Found out that deer don't jump off decks very well.

195 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:21:28pm

re: #192 Decatur Deb

I can't maintain a state of shock for 11 administrations. It wears.

Like me, I'm actually thinking of taking up some insanely absorbing hobby or pastime to save my mind. I'm debating whether I should try to breed champion goldfish, cultivate new and exotic hybirds and cultivars of the pomegranate, or revert to the ways of the neighbors of my youth and run a moonshine still. I've also considered joining a cult, but think it's a bit too expensive for my budget. Founding a cult, though, might make a hobby that pays for itself.

196 Cathypop  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:22:38pm

re: #195 Guanxi88

Like me, I'm actually thinking of taking up some insanely absorbing hobby or pastime to save my mind. I'm debating whether I should try to breed champion goldfish, cultivate new and exotic hybirds and cultivars of the pomegranate, or revert to the ways of the neighbors of my youth and run a moonshine still. I've also considered joining a cult, but think it's a bit too expensive for my budget. Founding a cult, though, might make a hobby that pays for itself.

You could make some serious money. Idiots are every where

197 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:23:05pm

I've always had a healthy distrust of govt, particularly the feds...about 20 years ago I threw in the towel and figured it's every man for himself...since that time things slowly but surly got better for me financially...I've had several run ins with the IRS but I seem to have out lasted them...fortunately I don't sit and dwell on the outrageous behavior of the feds anymore...I'm more of a bystander, but I do care about my children, who are learning fast and will no doubt follow my path through the years...it's a mistake to trust govt...lying and cheating is typical and normal for elected officials...they have their own language and their own rules...they cannot be dealt with effective head on...you have to hunker down and do it yourself, and the people that do, i consider the best American citizens...vote and give them some money, but watch your back and take care of yourself

198 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:23:12pm

re: #194 Cathypop

Found out that deer don't jump off decks very well.

Yeah, they look graceful on flat land moving at a leisurely pace. Anywhere else, though, and things get a bit frantic.

199 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:24:03pm

re: #185 Sharmuta

What works really well in the garden for mice and chipmunks is buckets of water. What you do is fill a painter's bucket about 3/4 full of water and cover the surface with sunflower seeds. Make sure there is a way for the little buggars to get into the bucket after those seeds, and wait. They're very poor swimmers.

I would never kill a chipmunk...not ever

200 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:24:04pm

re: #196 Cathypop

You could make some serious money. Idiots are every where

You think there's that much demand for exotic goldfish and rare cultivars of the Punica?

Oh, the cult thing,

201 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:24:45pm

re: #199 albusteve

I would never kill a chipmunk...not ever

Alvin thanks you.

202 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:24:59pm

re: #195 Guanxi88

Like me, I'm actually thinking of taking up some insanely absorbing hobby or pastime to save my mind. I'm debating whether I should try to breed champion goldfish, cultivate new and exotic hybirds and cultivars of the pomegranate, or revert to the ways of the neighbors of my youth and run a moonshine still. I've also considered joining a cult, but think it's a bit too expensive for my budget. Founding a cult, though, might make a hobby that pays for itself.

yeah?...talk is cheap

203 Decatur Deb  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:25:40pm

re: #199 albusteve

I would never kill a chipmunk...not ever

Could you perhaps irritate a vole?

204 Sharmuta  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:25:46pm

re: #188 SixDegrees

Yeah. We murdered a whole bunch of chipmunks that way with a kiddie pool. No seeds; it was involuntary rodentslaughter. We just left the pool filled overnight, and found the multiple victims in the morning.

I don't know about their swimming abilities, but they can't climb on plastic for jack.

They probably drowned within a minute. I listened to one as it happened. They can't swim for sh*t.

205 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:25:56pm

re: #202 albusteve

yeah?...talk is cheap

Hey, buddy! I've got goldfish and pomegranates! I'm ready to throw down!

206 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:26:08pm

re: #187 Cathypop

Will this work for racoons and deer? I consider them rodents.

deer are rodents?...wow

207 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:26:20pm

re: #203 Decatur Deb

Could you perhaps irritate a vole?

Confuse a cat.

Stun a stote.

Be wilderbeest

208 swamprat  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:26:52pm

Holy cow! I just heard Obama call 9-11 an "act of war"!
A woman on the BBC used the word "terrorist"!
What happened to Mr. Negotiator?
What happened to the BBC?

Has the left decided to take the middle lane now that the right has gotten in touch with its inner loon?

My world is changing.
Not completely happy, but I am glad the left has put away the protest signs and grown up.
Maybe the right might find out political temper tantrums aren't a viable form of discourse...
..Hey, it could happen...

209 Decatur Deb  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:28:02pm

re: #207 Guanxi88

Dings for Python.

210 swamprat  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:28:26pm

re: #185 Sharmuta


Dr. Pepper.
The farmers tell me they can't burp.

211 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:28:40pm

re: #209 Decatur Deb

Dings for Python.

Like the Simpsons, there's nothing they didn't cover.

212 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:29:18pm

kliling a mouse that shits on your stove is one...considering deer to be rodents is a huge leap...learn to live harmlessly in your environment

213 Cathypop  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:29:57pm

re: #206 albusteve

deer are rodents?...wow

When they are on your deck devouring the roses ... YES!

214 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:30:06pm

re: #212 albusteve

kliling a mouse that shits on your stove is one...considering deer to be rodents is a huge leap...learn to live harmlessly in your environment

Bingo! The only way to live.

215 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:30:23pm

re: #143 Killgore Trout

Somebody at fark added that to the URL. It does seem the story is probably real.

It is a reference to the Glenn Beck stalker site by that name, he has been trying to get the site shut down by the WIPO board.
Google cache link here:
[Link: 74.125.47.132...]

216 caliphibian  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:31:24pm

As I understand it, Obamacare is supposed to get a lot of it's funding from the insurance premiums of previously uninsured heathy, young people. Since Obamacare is forcing the uninsured to buy either private or government health coverage, what happens if all these young people buy private insurance? Who pays for all the bureaucracy when the intended cash cows don't participate?

217 Decatur Deb  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:31:43pm

re: #215 ausador

It is a reference to the Glenn Beck stalker site by that name, he has been trying to get the site shut down by the WIPO board.
Google cache link here:
[Link: 74.125.47.132...]

The Glen stalker won in court, declared victory, and went home.

218 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:32:06pm

re: #213 Cathypop

When they are on your deck devouring the roses ... YES!

there are solutions for that problem...I'm sure you've investigated them all

219 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:32:37pm

re: #213 Cathypop

When they are on your deck devouring the roses ... YES!

You can't be surprised when they go for that nice green foliage you so kindly put out for them. You gotta fence that stuff in, and fence it in high and tight to keep them off.

220 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:33:02pm

re: #215 ausador

It is a reference to the Glenn Beck stalker site by that name, he has been trying to get the site shut down by the WIPO board.
Google cache link here:
[Link: 74.125.47.132...]

FIND HIM! IMMEDIATELY!

221 Decatur Deb  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:34:22pm

re: #217 Decatur Deb

Link here: [Link: arstechnica.com...]

222 Cathypop  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:34:24pm

re: #219 Guanxi88

You can't be surprised when they go for that nice green foliage you so kindly put out for them. You gotta fence that stuff in, and fence it in high and tight to keep them off.

It is high and tight. About 20 feet above the back yard.

223 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:37:26pm

re: #222 Cathypop

It is high and tight. About 20 feet above the back yard.

Other option is perhaps to secure a stock of predator urine from a local conservancy or zoo and scatter at the perimeter to discourage them. Those are the only two I know of off the top of my head. Lousy problem to have.

WHATEVER YOU DO, do NOT put out food for them elsewhere, on the theory that they'll eat that instead. Just brings more in (neighbor did that and we had a mess on our hands)

224 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:37:46pm

re: #222 Cathypop

It is high and tight. About 20 feet above the back yard.

google 'Deer Domes' a Michigan company that builds a ships vented, geodesic, plastic domes to cover your property...they are easy to erect and safe for plants and children...they are 100% deer proof

225 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:38:11pm

re: #221 Decatur Deb

Link here: [Link: arstechnica.com...]

Interesting case. The registrant of the name did the right thing. Very classy, in its own way. Still shocking and libelous.

226 Decatur Deb  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:39:35pm

re: #225 Guanxi88

Yeah.. Somebody was out some legal fees.

227 Cathypop  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:39:41pm

re: #224 albusteve

google 'Deer Domes' a Michigan company that builds a ships vented, geodesic, plastic domes to cover your property...they are easy to erect and safe for plants and children...they are 100% deer proof


but ... I was looking forward to having venison in my freezer.

228 freetoken  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:40:07pm

There will probably be very many articles like this one:

With Few Strong Cases, Government Rushes Toward Plea Deals for Guantanamo Detainees

As the United States moves to prosecute Khalid Shaikh Mohammed and four others accused of being conspirators behind the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, federal and military prosecutors are racing each other to strike plea deals with at least a dozen additional Guantanamo detainees whose testimony could be used against some of the most notorious prisoners.

[...]

The unusual, competitive nature of the government's efforts, which pit the Justice Department against the Pentagon, was described by both defense attorneys and senior government officials. The officials acknowledged that the flurry of offers underscores the weaknesses in the cases against many of the Guantanamo inmates whom the Obama administration had hoped to prosecute.

229 freetoken  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:41:45pm

Oh, another paragraph from that article:

The stakes are highest perhaps for military prosecutors who have spent years preparing charges at Guantanamo Bay against some of the most serious terrorist suspects and are now fighting hard for plea bargains in order to keep some cases inside the military commissions system. Several defense attorneys said they had received competing offers for plea deals from federal prosecutors in the Southern District of New York and military prosecutors at the Pentagon.

Sounds like quite the battle by prosecutors.

230 webevintage  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:43:07pm

re: #85 Rightwingconspirator

how do you keep the cats out of the mouse trap?

We've never had a problem with that, but I normallre: #217 Decatur Deb

The Glen stalker won in court, declared victory, and went home.

Yep, gave Beck the site after he won.
It was all about proving a point, not that Beck learned anything.
BUT the brief the stalker lawyer wrote was pretty funny.

231 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:43:23pm

re: #227 Cathypop

but ... I was looking forward to having venison in my freezer.

then get a .357 revolver and when they come up on the deck shoot them right behind their front shoulder, about a third of the way below their back...bon appetite!...don't miss!

232 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:43:41pm
Our left-column Ajax RSS widget, with a drop-down list of news sites and blogs that lets you check out their current RSS feeds, has been completely rewritten.

Hmmm, what does this button do? Aughhh!!...

233 Racer X  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:44:04pm

re: #228 freetoken

There will probably be very many articles like this one:

With Few Strong Cases, Government Rushes Toward Plea Deals for Guantanamo Detainees

Fuck. fuckfuckfuckfuck.

There is a reason those jihadis are being held in Gitmo. They were not rounded just because they were muslims / arabs / middle eastern.

234 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:45:45pm

re: #233 Racer X

Fuck. fuckfuckfuckfuck.

There is a reason those jihadis are being held in Gitmo. They were not rounded just because they were muslims / arabs / middle eastern.

quiet you...this is another Glenn Beck thread...why I don't know...do you like venison?

235 Cathypop  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:48:54pm

re: #231 albusteve

then get a .357 revolver and when they come up on the deck shoot them right behind their front shoulder, about a third of the way below their back...bon appetite!...don't miss!

My friend took care of it. Not allowed to use gun in the city limits but a bow and arrow is fine. Freezer is fukl.

236 Sharmuta  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:51:41pm

re: #235 Cathypop

Freezer is fukl.

And who doesn't like fukl?

237 jaunte  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:52:07pm

re: #236 Sharmuta

East German brand?

238 Cathypop  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:52:34pm

re: #236 Sharmuta

And who doesn't like fukl?


It is Friday night. Excuse me! FULL.

239 Mr. Crankypants  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:53:06pm

re: #238 Cathypop

I live in Iowa where all the venison is corn fed and marbled like steak.

240 Decatur Deb  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:54:38pm

Visitors. 'Nite

241 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 6:59:16pm

re: #233 Racer X

Fuck. fuckfuckfuckfuck.

There is a reason those jihadis are being held in Gitmo. They were not rounded just because they were muslims / arabs / middle eastern.

And meanwhile...

Liveleak Video
242 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:01:37pm

re: #233 Racer X

Fuck. fuckfuckfuckfuck.

There is a reason those jihadis are being held in Gitmo. They were not rounded just because they were muslims / arabs / middle eastern.

Not according to NPR and the proggy monthlies.

243 swamprat  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:03:19pm

re: #233 Racer X

Fuck. fuckfuckfuckfuck.

There is a reason those jihadis are being held in Gitmo. They were not rounded just because they were muslims / arabs / middle eastern.


The new face of war.
(Over loudspeaker in three languages)
You have the right to surrender.
Any aggressive action you take after hearing this warning could lead to your death or imprisonment.
You have the right to an attorney.
You have the right to food acceptable to your beliefs, whatever they may be.
You have the right to sue you captors if and when you think your imprisonment is unjustified.
If you die before or during imprisonment, your family, heirs, or legal guardians may also have the right to sue.
You have the right to Geneva Convention agreements to which your country or countries never signed.
You have any and all rights afforded American criminals in the American criminal system, even though the conditions under which you were captured would entitle you to be shot under the Geneva Convention, which your country did not sign.
Any Americans hearing this warning while trying to kill American soldiers and working against the American government will not be tried as traitors.
That is all.

244 charlz  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:04:19pm

re: #109 Guanxi88

That link contains a nasty and actionable libel in it.

Actually that refers to recent litigation where Beck tried to shut down that domain name:
Glenn Beck's UDRP Complaint Gets The Smack Down

In the present context, this Panel considers that if Internet users view the disputed domain name in combination with a visit to Respondent’s website, the “total effect” is that of political commentary by Respondent, capable of protection as political speech by the First Amendment under the Hustler Magazine standard. Respondent appears to the Panel to be engaged in a parody of the style or methodology that Respondent appears genuinely to believe is employed by Complainant in the provision of political commentary, and for that reason Respondent can be said to be making a political statement.

More background at:

Memes strike back: Gerbils, gay blood elves, and Glenn Beck

How better to give Beck a taste of his own medicine than by wondering publicly why he has never addressed the rumor that he raped and murdered a young girl in 1990? No one's saying that Beck really did it… but if he has nothing to hide, why won't he deny the tale?
245 Van Helsing  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:07:37pm

re: #243 swamprat

I logged in just to upding that.
Stupid, stupid, stupid way to wage war.
And yet what you wrote pretty much covers it.

246 charlz  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:09:20pm

re: #244 charlz

Should have realized that somebody else would post while I cut and pasted!

247 Van Helsing  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:10:17pm

re: #233 Racer X

Fuck. fuckfuckfuckfuck.

There is a reason those jihadis are being held in Gitmo. They were not rounded just because they were muslims / arabs / middle eastern.

Once they make some silly-ass plea deal, are we going to end up 'hosting' these bastards because they might be mistreated in their home country?

Fuck.

248 MandyManners  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:13:02pm

re: #247 Van Helsing

Once they make some silly-ass plea deal, are we going to end up 'hosting' these bastards because they might be mistreated in their home country?

Fuck.

Send them to my place. I got plenty of land and a lot of house.

How does one say *WHACK* in Arabic?

249 Van Helsing  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:14:14pm

re: #248 MandyManners

Send them to my place. I got plenty of land and a lot of house.

How does one say *WHACK* in Arabic?

I'd suggest a .45. Got a backhoe?

250 MandyManners  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:14:36pm

re: #248 MandyManners

Send them to my place. I got plenty of land and a lot of house.

How does one say *WHACK* in Arabic?

For that matter, how does one say, "Oh, go piss up a rope" in Arabic?

251 MandyManners  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:15:38pm

re: #249 Van Helsing

Now, now.

252 MandyManners  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:16:53pm

re: #249 Van Helsing

I'd suggest a .45. Got a backhoe?

BTW, I have a DE .50 and other wonderful thingies.

253 Van Helsing  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:17:23pm

re: #251 MandyManners

Now, now.

Sorry. Can we kill them with kindness?

254 MandyManners  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:19:24pm

re: #253 Van Helsing

Sorry. Can we kill them with kindness?

Maybe their heads would explode. Or, maybe they'd just be like those in England who are living off the dole.

255 Digital Display  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:19:39pm

re: #250 MandyManners

For that matter, how does one say, "Oh, go piss up a rope" in Arabic?

Good evening Mandy..I hope today finds you and your son well
I'm just glad after almost 18000 posts you have never told me to piss up a rope...*wink*

256 Van Helsing  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:19:49pm

re: #252 MandyManners

BTW, I have a DE .50 and other wonderful thingies.

Sweet. I've never shot one of those. How's controllability?

257 swamprat  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:20:35pm

re: #255 HoosierHoops

Good evening Mandy..I hope today finds you and your son well
I'm just glad after almost 18000 posts you have never told me to piss up a rope...*wink*

That's not the funkin' point!

258 MandyManners  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:21:42pm

re: #255 HoosierHoops

Good evening Mandy..I hope today finds you and your son well
I'm just glad after almost 18000 posts you have never told me to piss up a rope...*wink*

*smoochie*

Your Top 10 post still chokes me up.

259 MandyManners  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:22:12pm

re: #256 Van Helsing

Sweet. I've never shot one of those. How's controllability?

It depends on who's in control.

260 MandyManners  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:23:57pm

I'm having a really hard time not screaming, "I TOLD YOU SO" here and there and everywhere today.

261 Van Helsing  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:24:00pm

re: #259 MandyManners

It depends on who's in control.

Got me on that.
I shall try again.

Is the recoil difficult to control, or is it balanced well enough to keep from too far off target with successive shots?

262 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:25:14pm

re: #261 Van Helsing

Got me on that.
I shall try again.

Is the recoil difficult to control, or is it balanced well enough to keep from too far off target with successive shots?

spray and pray

263 MandyManners  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:27:07pm

re: #261 Van Helsing

Got me on that.
I shall try again.

Is the recoil difficult to control, or is it balanced well enough to keep from too far off target with successive shots?

Again, it depends on who's in control.

I may be petite but, I'm one fucking-mean bitch.

264 Van Helsing  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:28:40pm

re: #263 MandyManners
I'm drooling over their website.

The 6 or 10" barrel?

265 SteveC  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:31:48pm

Hello everyone!

266 prairiefire  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:36:48pm

re: #23 albusteve

A BB gun with a steady aim can take them out!

267 SteveC  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:37:06pm

*Thinking* Damnit, everyone is out on the deck and the key to the freezer is missing. I bet Mandy stuck it in her pocket.

*Sits down and pouts, cause he was really looking forward to some Fruit Cup.*

268 Van Helsing  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:38:01pm

re: #266 prairiefire

A BB gun with a steady aim can take them out!

Only from a Red Ryder.

269 prairiefire  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:38:39pm

re: #26 albusteve

Many mice! My goodness!

270 SteveC  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:39:17pm

re: #268 Van Helsing

Only from a Red Ryder.

You'll shoot your eye out, kid!

271 freetoken  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:39:54pm

re: #267 SteveC


*Sits down and pouts, cause he was really looking forward to some Fruit Cup.*

We don't do fruitcup around here anymore...

But, since it will soon be Christmas (40 more shopping days) we do have some fruitcake:

Image: mainpagepic_copy.jpg

272 MandyManners  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:40:00pm

re: #264 Van Helsing

I'm drooling over their website.

The 6 or 10" barrel?


Let your own self be your guide.

273 SteveC  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:40:51pm

re: #271 freetoken

We don't do fruitcup around here anymore...

*FAINTS*

274 prairiefire  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:41:48pm

re: #268 Van Helsing

It helps if it a larger target, such as a rat, and is in between shelves of a stereo cabinet for containment.

275 MandyManners  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:41:49pm

re: #267 SteveC

*Thinking* Damnit, everyone is out on the deck and the key to the freezer is missing. I bet Mandy stuck it in her pocket.

*Sits down and pouts, cause he was really looking forward to some Fruit Cup.*

Why would I have the key to the freezer?

276 freetoken  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:41:56pm

re: #273 SteveC

*FAINTS*

If this helps any...

MP3 Audio
277 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:43:07pm

Evening lizards. I have beer and LGF for the rest of the night. What's new?

278 SteveC  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:43:09pm

re: #275 MandyManners

Why would I have the key to the freezer?

Just 'tractting your attention! :)

279 Racer X  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:43:22pm

My condolences to the Celtics fans.

/Not.

280 Van Helsing  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:43:26pm

re: #272 MandyManners

I'll have to go to the local gunstore/range and see if they have one in their 'try me' stock.

Those just look like fun.

281 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:43:52pm

way back in the fog of memory, there was an event called the FNDT

282 prairiefire  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:44:08pm

re: #263 MandyManners

Amen, ma'am

283 MandyManners  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:44:22pm

re: #278 SteveC

Just 'tractting your attention! :)

*sigh*

284 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:44:54pm

See Wall Drug!

285 MandyManners  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:46:57pm

re: #280 Van Helsing

I'll have to go to the local gunstore/range and see if they have one in their 'try me' stock.

Those just look like fun.

Yeah, I reckon it is "fun".

I take the defense of my property very seriously.

I don't talke "guns" here often.

286 prairiefire  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:47:21pm

re: #277 NJDhockeyfan

Hell of a news week! Veteran's Day. Uncle Wally had 4 tours in Korea as a Staff Sargent. Pres. Clinton sent him four medals, one for each tour. My gal used his photo for her brick at school.
Everything else~seizing building! Seizure of property. Would you find that intimidating?

287 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:47:30pm

Wall Drug...American icon

[Link: www.walldrug.com...]

288 Van Helsing  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:48:02pm

re: #274 prairiefire

Never give 'em a chance to run.

289 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:48:40pm

re: #281 albusteve

way back in the fog of memory, there was an event called the FNDT

Fox News Discussion Thread? But isn't that in almost every thread lately?

///

290 Digital Display  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:48:41pm

re: #258 MandyManners

*smoochie*

Your Top 10 post still chokes me up.

You are too kind...
I am a lucky guy...All the credit goes to a mom and dad that couldn't have kids that took on a bitter child to raise...
You have raised a beautiful child smothered in love...He is going to make you so proud someday..the fruits of your labour will make you so proud..
You are awesome Mandy..Good night my dear

291 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:49:29pm

re: #286 prairiefire

Hell of a news week! Veteran's Day. Uncle Wally had 4 tours in Korea as a Staff Sargent. Pres. Clinton sent him four medals, one for each tour. My gal used his photo for her brick at school.
Everything else~seizing building! Seizure of property. Would you find that intimidating?

Uncle Wally sounds like one helluva great American.

292 MandyManners  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:50:34pm

re: #285 MandyManners

Yeah, I reckon it is "fun".

I take the defense of my property very seriously.

I don't talke "guns" here often.

In fact, here is an example of my aerial defense.

Youtube Video
293 Van Helsing  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:50:49pm

re: #285 MandyManners

Point taken.
The 'fun' aspect for me is that I used to shoot in competition. Back when you actually had real guns in high school.

I make a distinction between protection and recreation.
Again, your point is taken.

294 SteveC  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:52:03pm

Pseudo-Flounce!

This place has changed for the worse! Used to be that a guy could get good conversation, some fruit cup, and a little sympathy after a hard day! Now I walk in, all of you hustle me to the rest room and take turns giving me swirlies! Steal my wallet, steal my shoes, take my tie, and even take my belt! I'd whip the whole lot of ya, but every time I get into a fighting stance my pants slide down. Do you know how hard it is to fight with your tallywhacker hanging out in the breeze?

Bunch of low-life scuzzbuckets you are! The whole lot of ya! I'm leaving!

*storms out*

*Walks back in*

POS car got towed...

///

295 prairiefire  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:52:25pm

The most testosterone of the four brothers. No nonsense. Hands on dad raising 4 kids with Auntie Anne. Pretty decent about his 3rd son's marriage to a super nice guy. Passes out shit like a plate of cookies, if you give him the chance!

296 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:53:05pm

re: #263 MandyManners

Again, it depends on who's in control.

I may be petite but, I'm one fucking-mean bitch.

Why is this and this the mental image I have of you?

297 MandyManners  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:53:38pm

re: #293 Van Helsing

Point taken.
The 'fun' aspect for me is that I used to shoot in competition. Back when you actually had real guns in high school.

I make a distinction between protection and recreation.
Again, your point is taken.

I make no such distinction.

When a snake enters my garden,...

298 prairiefire  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:53:59pm

re: #296 The Sanity Inspector

Oh yeah! Annie O!

299 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:54:19pm

Hey, 'Hoops. You can take me off the prayer list for this week. Thanks.

300 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:54:24pm

re: #285 MandyManners

Yeah, I reckon it is "fun".

I take the defense of my property very seriously.

I don't talke "guns" here often.

Still, nothing wrong with making a Friday Night thread the Gun Thread. Those are fun.

301 prairiefire  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:55:20pm

re: #300 Dark_Falcon

Oh, you would.

302 SteveC  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:55:32pm

Probably not a satisfied customer

IOWA CITY - Police arrested a man Friday for allegedly defecating in a pharmacy on Friday.

303 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:55:55pm

re: #296 The Sanity Inspector

Why is this and this the mental image I have of you?

Drat. The 404 link was a down-the-pistol-barrel eye view of Annie Oakley.

304 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:56:57pm

re: #287 albusteve

Wall Drug...American icon

[Link: www.walldrug.com...]

Neat link & story!
Thanks!

Can I have a glass of ice water, please?

305 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:57:11pm

re: #300 Dark_Falcon

Still, nothing wrong with making a Friday Night thread the Gun Thread. Those are fun.


so many older posters have been purged, and the ranks were filled with newbies...but they don't post

306 prairiefire  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:57:46pm

No?

307 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:57:48pm

re: #290 HoosierHoops

You are too kind...
I am a lucky guy...All the credit goes to a mom and dad that couldn't have kids that took on a bitter child to raise...
You have raised a beautiful child smothered in love...He is going to make you so proud someday..the fruits of your labour will make you so proud..
You are awesome Mandy..Good night my dear

My neighbors across the street went to adopt a baby one year. They went through the whole red tape infested process. The girl who was giving up the baby was young and didn't want the baby. They stayed in touch with her right up to the birth. When the baby was born the mother decided to keep the baby. My neighbors were devastated.

A few months later a friend of ours knew someone who was going to bive her baby up for adoption. She already had 4 kids and didn't want to rais another one. We told our neighbors about it. They were afraid to get heartbroken again but decided to go for it. She is a beautiful 8 year old girl today in a home full of love.

Thought you would like this story.

308 MandyManners  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:57:55pm

re: #296 The Sanity Inspector

Why is this and this the mental image I have of you?

I can't see the second but, MY ASS AIN'T THAT BIG IN THE FIRST ONE.

309 prairiefire  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:58:43pm

re: #308 MandyManners

It's the bustle!

310 SteveC  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:58:54pm

re: #305 albusteve

so many older posters have been purged, and the ranks were filled with newbies...but they don't post

Stop watching, start posting! This is a participatory sport!*

* Those of you who lurk and downding, keep your seats.

311 prairiefire  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:59:46pm

So what button do you push to see who ups or down dings you?

312 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 7:59:50pm

let's go to Knotts Berry Farm!...wooohooo!

[Link: www.knotts.com...]

loved that place back in the early 60's

313 MandyManners  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:00:11pm

re: #309 prairiefire

It's the bustle!

FUCK THE BUSTLE.

314 McSpiff  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:00:11pm

re: #311 prairiefire

So what button do you push to see who ups or down dings you?

click the ding count itself

315 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:00:31pm

re: #311 prairiefire

So what button do you push to see who ups or down dings you?

The number next to the - and + buttons.

316 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:01:08pm

re: #311 prairiefire

So what button do you push to see who ups or down dings you?

who cares!...weee!...GLENN BECK!

317 prairiefire  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:01:16pm

re: #313 MandyManners

That's what they said! That's why no more corsets and bustles.

318 bratwurst  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:01:22pm

re: #287 albusteve

Wall Drug...American icon

[Link: www.walldrug.com...]

Been there. Even if you didn't know about it, you pretty much HAVE TO stop out of curiousity after all the signs for 100+ miles in every direction.

319 MandyManners  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:01:23pm

re: #309 prairiefire

It's the bustle!

Yeah, you're right. I just...just...I just...

320 SteveC  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:01:37pm

re: #309 prairiefire

It's the bustle!

"Why Kate, I do believe that you are not wearing a bustle! How lewd!" - Doc Holiday, Tombstone

321 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:01:41pm

re: #312 albusteve

let's go to Knotts Berry Farm!...wooohooo!

[Link: www.knotts.com...]

loved that place back in the early 60's

Remember the alligator farm & the ostrich ranch?
LOL!

322 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:02:01pm

re: #315 NJDhockeyfan

The number next to the - and + buttons.

...!!!... I never knew that function was there! Thanks!

323 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:02:35pm

re: #318 bratwurst

Been there. Even if you didn't know about it, you pretty much HAVE TO stop out of curiousity after all the signs for 100+ miles in every direction.

it's a treasure...I've been there and could not park...a hundred bikes

324 SteveC  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:02:36pm

re: #311 prairiefire

So what button do you push to see who ups or down dings you?

Click the upding/downding count on the right (always starts at 0)

325 prairiefire  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:03:08pm

re: #321 Floral Giraffe

Good lord, you folks are old CA's! So, what is up with the prevalence of acne in LA? Anybody else notice that?

326 Varek Raith  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:03:10pm

re: #322 The Sanity Inspector

...!!!... I never knew that function was there! Thanks!

D'oheth! :)
/

327 MandyManners  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:03:14pm

re: #317 prairiefire

That's what they said! That's why no more corsets and bustles.

We have a huge debt toward those who are not prominent.

POWER TO THE PEOPLE.

328 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:04:10pm

re: #321 Floral Giraffe

Remember the alligator farm & the ostrich ranch?
LOL!

Alligator snapping turtles, scared the hell out of me.

329 Racer X  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:04:28pm

Metallagher "Creeping Death" at 2009 Fun Fun Fun Fest

Youtube Video
330 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:04:30pm

Dead Flowers...

Youtube Video
331 prairiefire  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:04:45pm

re: #327 MandyManners

Power to the Ladies! I come from a long line of bluestocking, blue nosed suffragettes.

332 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:05:05pm

re: #325 prairiefire

Good lord, you folks are old CA's! So, what is up with the prevalence of acne in LA? Anybody else notice that?

No, never noticed it.

It's a great place, you can still find small towns, where everyone knows each other & it's friendly. Or you can enter the maw of the monster.
Hard to beat the weather!

333 SteveC  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:05:41pm

Go to jail for not buying insurance?

Today, she was asked “Do you think it’s fair to send people to jail who don’t buy health insurance?” She cooly answered, “The legislation is very fair in this respect.”

334 prairiefire  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:06:39pm

re: #332 Floral Giraffe

That's true. I think that town (LA) would have chewed me up and spit me out if I ever tried to live there.

335 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:06:56pm

re: #330 albusteve

You seem really down lately. Everything ok?

336 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:07:19pm

re: #333 SteveC

Go to jail for not buying insurance?

I went down to the Chelsea drugstore...

Youtube Video
337 Van Helsing  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:08:05pm

re: #333 SteveC

Go to jail for not buying insurance?

Same penalties for not paying the 'not buying insurance' penalty as for not paying your taxes.
But it's not a tax.

I hate newspeak.

338 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:08:50pm

re: #335 Killgore Trout

You seem really down lately. Everything ok?

pain...never ending pain...it's hard to be jolly...my life is all about pain

339 prairiefire  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:09:16pm

re: #330 albusteve

Geezzz, Thanks!

340 prairiefire  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:09:56pm

re: #338 albusteve

Naaah, not too much pain!

341 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:10:00pm

re: #338 albusteve

Wow, that's still going on? Yeesh, it's been a while and I assumed it had passed. Very sorry to hear that.

342 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:10:04pm

re: #305 albusteve

so many older posters have been purged, and the ranks were filled with newbies...but they don't post

Purged? That's a rather strange word for it. In the main, they chose to leave, either by flounce or by refusing to behave in a civil fashion.

343 MandyManners  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:10:52pm

re: #338 albusteve

I love you, Steve. I care.

344 Racer X  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:11:24pm

Dwyane Wade Dunk on Varejao (HD)

Youtube Video
345 SteveC  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:12:12pm

re: #334 prairiefire

That's true. I think that town (LA) would have chewed me up and spit me out if I ever tried to live there.

Gladys, that's your cue!

L.A. proved too much for the man,
So he's leavin' the life he's come to know,
He said he's goin' back to find
Ooh, what's left of his world,
The world he left behind
Not so long ago.

He's leaving,
On that midnight train to Georgia,
And he's goin' back
To a simpler place and time.
And I'll be with him
On that midnight train to Georgia,
I'd rather live in his world
Than live without him in mine.

346 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:12:28pm

re: #341 Killgore Trout

Wow, that's still going on? Yeesh, it's been a while and I assumed it had passed. Very sorry to hear that.

16 months...I'm okay

347 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:14:01pm

re: #342 Dark_Falcon

Purged? That's a rather strange word for it. In the main, they chose to leave, either by flounce or by refusing to behave in a civil fashion.

whatever...I'm sentimentalre: #343 MandyManners

I love you, Steve. I care.

heh...thanks

348 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:16:04pm

re: #338 albusteve

{{ABS}}

Once upon a time, Dad tried some pain management, and was greatly benefited by it. I think it was learning to read & use biofeedback.

I know that you are trying to find a way past the pain.
I hope you find it.

349 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:16:45pm

re: #347 albusteve

heh...thanks

So am I. But language matters, that's all I'm saying.

350 SteveC  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:17:48pm

*Runs in with a copy of the health care legislation (titled To Heal Man) and screams "It's a Tax Bill!"

That surtax takes effect on January 1, 2011, or the day the Bush tax rates of 2001 and 2003 expire. Today's capital gains tax rate of 15% would bounce back to 20% because of the Bush repeal and then to 25.4% with the surtax. That's a 69% increase, overnight.

351 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:18:03pm

Apologies of this has been posted. Justice has been served.

Ex-congressman gets 13 years in freezer cash case

ALEXANDRIA, Va. — A former Louisiana congressman who famously hid $90,000 cash in his freezer was sentenced Friday to 13 years in prison for taking bribes, the longest term ever imposed on a congressman for bribery charges.

William Jefferson, a Democrat who represented parts of New Orleans for nearly 20 years, was convicted in August of taking roughly $500,000 in bribes and seeking millions more in exchange for using his influence to broker business deals in Africa.

The sentence was still far less than the nearly 30 years prosecutors had sought.

Agents investigating the case found $90,000 wrapped in foil and hidden in boxes of frozen pie crusts in his freezer.

352 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:18:13pm

you can put me out...out on the street

Youtube Video
354 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:19:13pm

re: #348 Floral Giraffe

{{ABS}}

Once upon a time, Dad tried some pain management, and was greatly benefited by it. I think it was learning to read & use biofeedback.

I know that you are trying to find a way past the pain.
I hope you find it.

I'll be fine...I really don't want the attention tho...thanks

355 SteveC  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:19:44pm

re: #351 NJDhockeyfan

Apologies of this has been posted. Justice has been served.

Ex-congressman gets 13 years in freezer cash case

Cool cash carries Congressman to da Klink! :)

356 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:20:18pm

re: #354 albusteve

Good wishes, is all you're getting from here!
;)

357 prairiefire  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:20:28pm

re: #352 albusteve

Ahh, physical. Meditative breathing helps me.

358 prairiefire  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:20:45pm

re: #336 albusteve

Thanks very much, again.

359 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:20:59pm

c'mon Dad!...we wanna see the Corn Palace!


[Link: www.cornpalace.com...]

360 Van Helsing  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:21:13pm

re: #350 SteveC

*Runs in with a copy of the health care legislation (titled To Heal Man) and screams "It's a Tax Bill!"

You mean it's not possible to increase services to more people and cover pre-existing conditions regardless and not have it cost more?

Who'da thunk it...

361 Varek Raith  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:22:21pm

re: #359 albusteve

c'mon Dad!...we wanna see the Corn Palace!

[Link: www.cornpalace.com...]

*Targets his microwave sats at palace. Fires*
MMM, popcorn. :)

362 SteveC  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:22:56pm

re: #360 Van Helsing

Who'da thunk it...

The list is long, and distinguished...

363 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:23:05pm

re: #350 SteveC

*Runs in with a copy of the health care legislation (titled To Heal Man) and screams "It's a Tax Bill!"

If that tax hike passes, then the level of capital flight from the US in 2010 will put America into a full-on Depression. Many of us would lose our jobs, I'd probably go bankrupt. The only good thing about it would be that Nancy Pelosi and her crew would be run out of Congress on a rail. This bill is an economy killer.

364 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:24:27pm

re: #360 Van Helsing

You mean it's not possible to increase services to more people and cover pre-existing conditions regardless and not have it cost more?

Who'da thunk it...

Health care is supposed to be free! What is this tax they speak of?

365 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:25:33pm

re: #359 albusteve

Yes, well, we're SO BROKE in California,
we're gonna sell the county fairgrounds to the highest bidder!
( I do wish I could put a sarc tag on this...)

[Link: www.ocregister.com...]

366 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:26:53pm

anybody remember this place?...it was HUGE back in the day...now closed because of the economy...

[Link: www.cypressgardens.com...]

367 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:27:02pm

re: #365 Floral Giraffe

Yes, well, we're SO BROKE in California,
we're gonna sell the county fairgrounds to the highest bidder!
( I do wish I could put a sarc tag on this...)

[Link: www.ocregister.com...]

Isn't California selling a prison as well?

368 SteveC  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:27:29pm

re: #363 Dark_Falcon

If that tax hike passes, then the level of capital flight from the US in 2010 will put America into a full-on Depression. Many of us would lose our jobs, I'd probably go bankrupt. The only good thing about it would be that Nancy Pelosi and her crew would be run out of Congress on a rail. This bill is an economy killer.

Healthcare bill on screen, Captain!

369 freetoken  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:27:46pm

re: #365 Floral Giraffe

Galt would be proud!

No?

370 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:29:22pm

re: #366 albusteve

If you are ever in Rye, NY, visit Playland.

371 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:29:29pm

re: #367 NJDhockeyfan

You got some cash?
We'll sell you just about anything you want!

(Rather than dealing with our core financial issue of unfunded liabilities. AKA Union Pensions...or, GASP spending less than the income & saving for a rainy day)

372 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:29:53pm

kinda of a down to Earth flavor...


Youtube Video
373 Varek Raith  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:30:02pm

re: #368 SteveC

Healthcare bill on screen, Captain!

That's not the healthcare bill! That's my... uh, healthcare bill, yeah, that's what it is. *shifts eyes back and forth innocently*
/Have had way too much coffee.

374 Van Helsing  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:30:42pm

re: #365 Floral Giraffe

Yes, well, we're SO BROKE in California,
we're gonna sell the county fairgrounds to the highest bidder!
( I do wish I could put a sarc tag on this...)

[Link: www.ocregister.com...]

AZ is considering selling state buildings and leasing them back from the buyers.

We had huge increases in tax revenue for several years and the idjits just kept on spending.

The idea of making your spending match your revenue really needs to be re-examined.

Shit does happen and it would be nice to be prepared for it.

375 SteveC  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:31:24pm

re: #367 NJDhockeyfan

Isn't California selling a prison as well?

I hear the train a comin'
It's rolling round the bend
And I ain't seen the sunshine since I don't know when,
I'm stuck in Folsom Starbucks prison, and time keeps draggin' on
But that train keeps a rollin' on down to San Antone..

376 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:32:29pm

re: #375 SteveC

I hear the train a comin'
It's rolling round the bend
And I ain't seen the sunshine since I don't know when,
I'm stuck in Folsom Starbucks prison, and time keeps draggin' on
But that train keeps a rollin' on down to San Antone..

Very good, Steve Johnny.

377 Racer X  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:33:05pm

re: #366 albusteve

I loved going to Busch Gardens when I was a kid.

Coolness.

378 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:33:46pm

re: #374 Van Helsing

We have cities, Oxnard, IIRC, that have sold the city streets & are leasing them back.

What JENIUS thought up THIS scheme?

Just absolutely frightening...

379 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:34:23pm

re: #368 SteveC

Healthcare bill on screen, Captain!

Stand by to fire the fiscal sanity torpedoes! But first, load Glen Beck into one of the launchers. He's so dense that launched at high velocity he'll break through the toughest hulls!

380 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:35:19pm

way ahead of the curvere: #377 Racer X

I loved going to Busch Gardens when I was a kid.

Coolness.

where else can you pet a stingray?...love the place...just killer (whales)

381 Sharmuta  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:36:17pm

re: #377 Racer X

I loved going to Busch Gardens when I was a kid.

Coolness.

And here I was looking at onyx caves as a kid.

382 SteveC  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:36:22pm

re: #379 Dark_Falcon

Stand by to fire the fiscal sanity torpedoes! But first, load Glen Beck into one of the launchers. He's so dense that launched at high velocity he'll break through the toughest hulls!

"Cap'n, you do that and we'll all be in the brig!"

383 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:36:29pm

buckle up...

Youtube Video
384 Varek Raith  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:36:33pm

re: #379 Dark_Falcon

Stand by to fire the fiscal sanity torpedoes! But first, load Glen Beck into one of the launchers. He's so dense that launched at high velocity he'll break through the toughest hulls!

Though you must be prepared for warp, as he will eventually collapse into a wingularity.

385 SteveC  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:37:45pm

re: #384 Varek Raith

Though you must be prepared for warp, as he will eventually collapse into a wingularity.

"Captain, the mains are back online!"

"Bless you, Scotty! Sulu, GO!"

386 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:38:33pm

gateway to the Black Hills...everybody digs a cave


[Link: www.nps.gov...]

387 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:39:30pm

re: #385 SteveC

"Captain, the mains are back online!"

"Bless you, Scotty! GO, Sulu!"

"Jim, out of Danger?"

388 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:41:12pm

Anyone see Obama's first federal court nominee?

389 Van Helsing  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:41:22pm

re: #386 albusteve

I like caves, too. Kartchner

390 SteveC  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:41:53pm

re: #387 Dark_Falcon

"Jim, out of Danger?"

"You saved the ship... and set up the next sequel! Good work, Spock!"

391 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:42:49pm

re: #389 Van Helsing

I like caves, too. Kartchner

some pretty new caves there...caves are cool

392 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:42:54pm

re: #386 albusteve

gateway to the Black Hills...everybody digs a cave

[Link: www.nps.gov...]

We don't have caves in Virginia. They are called caverns.

393 Varek Raith  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:43:26pm

re: #387 Dark_Falcon

"Jim, out of Danger?"

Huh, you say something, Bones?
:)

394 Van Helsing  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:45:52pm

Goodnight

395 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:46:09pm

re: #377 Racer X

I loved going to Busch Gardens when I was a kid.

Coolness.

My folks used to go to Disneyland to hear the latest Jazz.
Peggy Lee, Benny Goodman, I remember...

396 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:46:09pm

man made extremeness...anybody ever ride this beast?...I have...any coaster heads out there?

[Link: www.cedarpoint.com...]

397 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:46:23pm

re: #390 SteveC

"You saved the ship... and set up the next sequel! Good work, Spock!"

LOL!

398 prairiefire  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:46:58pm

re: #395 Floral Giraffe

There is that one spot where you can drink. Walt had an apt. there.

399 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:47:19pm

The question of the day:

Ask yourself this question: Suppose that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed's trial results in an acquittal or a hung jury. Would the Obama administration really let him go? If so, they are crazy. If not, why are they holding the trial?

400 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:47:24pm

re: #394 Van Helsing

Sleep Tight!

401 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:48:11pm

re: #395 Floral Giraffe

My folks used to go to Disneyland to hear the latest Jazz.
Peggy Lee, Benny Goodman, I remember...

I went to Disneyland when I was 2.
1965

402 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:48:28pm

re: #392 NJDhockeyfan

We don't have caves in Virginia. They are called caverns.

yes, a degree of sophistication...caverns are cool too...mine shafts are right up there on my underground coolitry too

403 austin_blue  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:48:49pm

If a Federal health care option was available at, say, 60% of the present cost of may policy, and my company accepted it, I wonder how mush my salary would increase because my company was able to save 40% on my health care cost?

Bottom line: private insurers' costs cost you salary. It's a non-government tax on your income.

Just something to think about.

404 austin_blue  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:49:58pm

re: #403 austin_blue

If a Federal health care option was available at, say, 60% of the present cost of may policy, and my company accepted it, I wonder how mush my salary would increase because my company was able to save 40% on my health care cost?

Bottom line: private insurers' costs cost you salary. It's a non-government tax on your income.

Just something to think about.

may = my

PIMF. Sheesh.

405 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:50:22pm

re: #401 NJDhockeyfan

Youngster!
I grew up nearby.
EVERY out of town guest wanted to go.
So, we went a lot.
It wasn't as expensive then, as it is now.
And, there was enough to do, to stay the whole day & listen to music after dark.

Today, too crowded, not as much fun.

406 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:50:28pm

re: #401 NJDhockeyfan

I went to Disneyland when I was 2.
1965

I've been there too...but Disney World in Orlando is the most mind blowing resort ever known to man...go there if you haven't already

407 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:51:08pm

re: #405 Floral Giraffe

Youngster!
I grew up nearby.
EVERY out of town guest wanted to go.
So, we went a lot.
It wasn't as expensive then, as it is now.
And, there was enough to do, to stay the whole day & listen to music after dark.

Today, too crowded, not as much fun.

evolution!

408 austin_blue  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:51:43pm

re: #401 NJDhockeyfan

I went to Disneyland when I was 2.
1965

Ha! My 'rents have pictures of us in Disneyland, too. The Matterhorn was still being constructed.

Man, I'm old.

409 SteveC  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:51:57pm

re: #399 NJDhockeyfan

The question of the day:

Ask yourself this question: Suppose that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed's trial results in an acquittal or a hung jury. Would the Obama administration really let him go? If so, they are crazy. If not, why are they holding the trial?

This show is going to make OJ Simpson look like street theater!

410 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:53:01pm

re: #408 austin_blue

Ha! My 'rents have pictures of us in Disneyland, too. The Matterhorn was still being constructed.

Man, I'm old.

neva too old...now it's all about Space Mountain

411 austin_blue  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:54:46pm

re: #409 SteveC

This show is going to make OJ Simpson look like street theater!

So far the Feds' success on prosecution of foreigners on terrorist charges in the US is 100%.

412 SteveC  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:54:56pm

re: #406 albusteve

I've been there too...but Disney World in Orlando is the most mind blowing resort ever known to man...go there if you haven't already

I'm going back next year. I went a few years ago but didn't enjoy it, kept thinking I had a cold. Turns out I was in heart failure.

413 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:55:10pm

re: #406 albusteve

I've been there too...but Disney World in Orlando is the most mind blowing resort ever known to man...go there if you haven't already

We took the kids there 2 years ago. Blew me away. The park was clean, everyone was very nice, food was excellent, I can't think of a single complaint.

414 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:55:55pm

Check out this photo. It's part of a gallery on Rihanna's arrival in Paris, but it is a great shot of a female French soldier and of France's primary Infantry Rifle, the FA MAS G-2. Note that the rifle is a bullpup, which means its magazine well is behind the pistol grip and trigger.

Cool Photo

Also check out the rest of the gallery if you're a Rihanna fan.

415 prairiefire  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:55:59pm

re: #412 SteveC

No! Not worth the money.

416 SteveC  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:56:23pm

re: #402 albusteve

yes, a degree of sophistication...caverns are cool too...mine shafts are right up there on my underground coolitry too

You can hunt for DIAMONDS at this state park!

417 austin_blue  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:56:23pm

re: #413 NJDhockeyfan

We took the kids there 2 years ago. Blew me away. The park was clean, everyone was very nice, food was excellent, I can't think of a single complaint.

The single most efficient operation in separating a consumer from his cash on the planet!

418 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:56:40pm

re: #412 SteveC

I'm going back next year. I went a few years ago but didn't enjoy it, kept thinking I had a cold. Turns out I was in heart failure.

oh man...I'm so sorry to hear that...chin up and forge ahead...it's a wonderful experience...don't leave home without your Master Card tho

419 Sharmuta  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:57:11pm

Nope. Nothin cool bout onyx caves.

420 SteveC  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:57:28pm

re: #417 austin_blue

The single most efficient operation in separating a consumer from his cash on the planet!

A people trap run by a mouse!

421 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:58:30pm

re: #413 NJDhockeyfan

We took the kids there 2 years ago. Blew me away. The park was clean, everyone was very nice, food was excellent, I can't think of a single complaint.

I've been there several times...a devout patron...with the kids when they were little and again when they were older...then just my wife and I...awesome place

422 SteveC  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:59:39pm

re: #418 albusteve

oh man...I'm so sorry to hear that...chin up and forge ahead...it's a wonderful experience...don't leave home without your Master Card tho

I was in acute Heart Failure, which is pretty rough. It can be controlled through diet and exercise; and I am doing much better!

423 austin_blue  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 8:59:56pm

re: #414 Dark_Falcon

Check out this photo. It's part of a gallery on Rihanna's arrival in Paris, but it is a great shot of a female French soldier and of France's primary Infantry Rifle, the FA MAS G-2. Note that the rifle is a bullpup, which means its magazine well is behind the pistol grip and trigger.

Cool Photo

Also check out the rest of the gallery if you're a Rihanna fan.

I've never hot-fired a bullpup, but I imagine switching mags takes some practice. Kind of awkward reaching back and up like that.

424 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:00:00pm

re: #417 austin_blue

The single most efficient operation in separating a consumer from his cash on the planet!

so what?...you only live once...money is a small thing, it's a small world after all...stuff costs

425 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:01:15pm

re: #416 SteveC

You can hunt for DIAMONDS at this state park!

there are folks that have done extremely well there...even a couple of millionairs...neat place...I love America

426 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:01:19pm

re: #424 albusteve

so what?...you only live once...money is a small thing, it's a small world after all...stuff costs

Happiest place on earth!

427 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:02:21pm

re: #422 SteveC

I was in acute Heart Failure, which is pretty rough. It can be controlled through diet and exercise; and I am doing much better!

Stay a week at Disney World. You will get plenty exercise if you see the whole park.

428 austin_blue  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:02:24pm

re: #424 albusteve

so what?...you only live once...money is a small thing, it's a small world after all...stuff costs

I wasn't saying it was bad. I kind of admire them for their efficiency. Ultimate capitalists.

429 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:03:06pm

re: #416 SteveC

You can collect Jade here...
[Link: jrabold.net...]

430 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:03:11pm

re: #422 SteveC

I was in acute Heart Failure, which is pretty rough. It can be controlled through diet and exercise; and I am doing much better!

hang in there...almost everything that can be known is known about the heart...you have progress on your side, and it ain't over yet for you

431 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:05:41pm

re: #423 austin_blue

I've never hot-fired a bullpup, but I imagine switching mags takes some practice. Kind of awkward reaching back and up like that.

Probably. Still, it does have the advantage of being much shorter. French troops have been using this rifle very effectively in Afghanistan. It was interesting to get a good photo of one. Say what you will about the paparrazi, but they tend to be able to take high-quality photos.

432 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:05:50pm

re: #424 albusteve

so what?...you only live once...money is a small thing, it's a small world after all...stuff costs

When we were there the Superbowl was on Sunday. On Tuesday we happen to stumble on some of the Indianapolis Colts at Magic Kingdom including Tony Dungy.

433 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:06:06pm

re: #428 austin_blue

I wasn't saying it was bad. I kind of admire them for their efficiency. Ultimate capitalists.

I know...who would diss Disney eh?...it's a beast, they perfected the separation of your money while you love them philosophy...a true American treasure

434 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:07:52pm

re: #432 NJDhockeyfan

When we were there the Superbowl was on Sunday. On Tuesday we happen to stumble on some of the Indianapolis Colts at Magic Kingdom including Tony Dungy.

I dig Pluto...he just means something to me, deep down there is some kind of spirit there

435 SteveC  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:08:27pm

re: #430 albusteve

hang in there...almost everything that can be known is known about the heart...you have progress on your side, and it ain't over yet for you

A world famous Cardiologist told my parents I was down to hours if they didn't operate right now. That was 42 years ago.

Shout out to my folks, too; they are bad ass. They drove me from rural South Carolina to Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore in the middle of a F'n snowstorm because that was the best place to for the surgery I needed.

436 SteveC  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:09:12pm

re: #432 NJDhockeyfan

When we were there the Superbowl was on Sunday. On Tuesday we happen to stumble on some of the Indianapolis Colts at Magic Kingdom including Tony Dungy.

"I'm going to DISNEY WORLD!"

437 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:11:43pm

re: #435 SteveC

A world famous Cardiologist told my parents I was down to hours if they didn't operate right now. That was 42 years ago.

Shout out to my folks, too; they are bad ass. They drove me from rural South Carolina to Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore in the middle of a F'n snowstorm because that was the best place to for the surgery I needed.

there you have it...I adore both my parents,
'cept my dads gone now...but he lives on in my heart

438 Sharmuta  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:11:58pm

McCain campaign fires back at Palin over book

Former McCain strategist John Weaver was more direct in his criticism, slamming Palin for using the book for "petty and pathetic" score-settling.

"Sarah Palin reminds me of Jimmy Stewart in the movie 'Harvey,' complete with imaginary conversations. All books like these are revisionist and self-serving, by definition," Weaver wrote in an e-mail to Politico. "But the score-settling by someone who wants to be considered a serious national player is petty and pathetic."

"The problem wasn't who her interview was with, the problem was her interview," he added. "Couric asked no trick questions. This just seems to be an attempt to obscure as bad a performance since Roger Mudd asked Ted Kennedy that simple question." (Kennedy fumbled for an answer when Mudd asked him in 1979 why he wanted to be president — a performance thought to have severely damaged his campaign.)

Palin did not respond to a request for comment.

Pass the popcorn.

439 sngnsgt  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:12:56pm

re: #351 NJDhockeyfan

I'm glad they put him on ice.

440 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:13:17pm

anybody ever see the Tree of Life at Disney World, and the show underneath it?...yowza!

441 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:15:47pm

re: #439 sngnsgt

I'm glad they put him on ice.

William Jefferson Ad: "I Have Never Taken A Bribe"

Youtube Video
442 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:17:15pm

re: #399 NJDhockeyfan

The question of the day:


Ask yourself this question: Suppose that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed's trial results in an acquittal or a hung jury. Would the Obama administration really let him go? If so, they are crazy. If not, why are they holding the trial?

Because actually having the courage of one's convictions is not possible without the willingness to incur some level of risk.

443 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:17:25pm

re: #440 albusteve

anybody ever see the Tree of Life at Disney World, and the show underneath it?...yowza!

Yep. The attention to detail is amazing and something is always going on around you. My girls ran into a talking moving trash can one day. It was hilarious.

444 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:18:11pm

The greatest dog who ever lived is asleep in my lap right now.

Ssshhh.

445 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:18:22pm
Yep. The attention to detail is amazing and something is always going on around you. My girls ran into a talking moving trash can one day. It was hilarious.

I love that place

446 Sharmuta  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:18:52pm

FBV is hanging with Lassie?

447 SteveC  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:18:57pm

It's midnight at the oasis, friends. I'm gonna sing my camel to bed and then curl up myself.

Ya'll have a great one!

448 sngnsgt  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:18:59pm

re: #396 albusteve

Youtube Video
Weee!
449 austin_blue  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:19:32pm

re: #439 sngnsgt

I'm glad they put him on ice.

Bill Jefferson was a weasel from *way* back. When he was running against Sidney Barthelemy for Mayor of New oOrleans back in the mid-80's he passed out fliers in the black precincts claiming Sidney was "too white". Sidney was mixed-race creole Catholic, Bill was black Protestant. Sleazy.

450 albusteve  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:19:34pm

as the world turns...disregarding Sarah Palin,
I'm out like Sonny Liston

451 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:20:47pm

re: #438 Sharmuta


"The problem wasn't who her interview was with, the problem was her interview," he added. "Couric asked no trick questions. This just seems to be an attempt to obscure as bad a performance

I rewatched this video earlier...

Youtube Video

She has a very obvious reaction of anger and defensiveness when she doesn't have an answer to a question. In her mind she's angry that she's being asked.

452 austin_blue  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:23:29pm

re: #451 Killgore Trout

I rewatched this video earlier...

[Video]

She has a very obvious reaction of anger and defensiveness when she doesn't have an answer to a question. In her mind she's angry that she's being asked.

She could have been honest. "Parade, The Onion, Field and Stream, and The Economist."

453 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:23:52pm

re: #451 Killgore Trout

I rewatched this video earlier...

[Video]She has a very obvious reaction of anger and defensiveness when she doesn't have an answer to a question. In her mind she's angry that she's being asked.

Killgore - you know she's evil, you know she's stupid, you know she's a dangerous influence on the millions of tiny-minded theocratic conservatives who threaten all that we all hold dear, and whose very numbers threaten to swamp the halls of representative government with their non-existent but ever-growing numbers and influence. Why get worked up over it?

If I rode my particular hobby horses the way you rode Fox and Palin, people'd say I'm a fanatic, and they'd be right.

454 bratwurst  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:24:44pm

re: #452 austin_blue

She could have been honest. "Parade, The Onion, Field and Stream, and The Economist."

If she does read Parade, I am going to guess she is a bigger fan of Howard Huge than Marilyn Vos Savant!

455 austin_blue  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:25:31pm

re: #453 Guanxi88

Killgore - you know she's evil, you know she's stupid, you know she's a dangerous influence on the millions of tiny-minded theocratic conservatives who threaten all that we all hold dear, and whose very numbers threaten to swamp the halls of representative government with their non-existent but ever-growing numbers and influence. Why get worked up over it?

If I rode my particular hobby horses the way you rode Fox and Palin, people'd say I'm a fanatic, and they'd be right.

Respectfully, that doesn't make KT wrong, either. They deserve a certain amount of abuse.

456 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:25:53pm

re: #454 bratwurst

Marilyn Vos Savant!?

The only reason to read a word in Parade.

457 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:26:07pm

re: #455 austin_blue

Respectfully, that doesn't make KT wrong, either. They deserve a certain amount of abuse.

Of course, everybody's got it coming. But for pete's sake, can he go one thread without it? Just one?

458 Sharmuta  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:26:08pm

re: #451 Killgore Trout

There's more about that too:

The excerpt also described Wallace as having aggressively "pushed for Katie Couric and the CBS Evening News" because "Katie really needed a career boost."

[snip]

Reflecting on the first set of interviews Palin did as the GOP vice presidential nominee, Salter said that the sit-downs were "discussed and agreed to by senior members of the campaign staff in consultation with the candidate" and that Wallace did not choose either the journalists or the outlets Palin spoke to.

"Nicolle Wallace, along with others, was tasked with helping the governor prepare for some of her interviews. She did not decide which interview requests the candidates would accept. Nor was she tasked with securing the candidates' agreement," Salter said.

Sarah is starting to look more and more like she not being honest.

459 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:26:21pm

re: #456 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Marilyn Vos Savant!?

The only reason to read a word in Parade.

What's Parade?

460 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:26:55pm

re: #459 NJDhockeyfan

What's Parade?

It's a bunch of people walking down a street with a band, but that's not important right now.

461 austin_blue  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:27:20pm

re: #454 bratwurst

If she does read Parade, I am going to guess she is a bigger fan of Howard Huge than Marilyn Vos Savant!

I noticed last Sunday that Parade has dropped MVS and gone to a smaller format. I figure that within two years, my Sunday local will be the size of a paperback.

462 austin_blue  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:29:25pm

re: #457 Guanxi88

Of course, everybody's got it coming. But for pete's sake, can he go one thread without it? Just one?

Nope. Wouldn't be KT if he did. We all know that. If it irks, you can always just scroll.

463 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:30:28pm

re: #462 austin_blue

Nope. Wouldn't be KT if he did. We all know that. If it irks, you can always just scroll.

I'm a quick reader, and so his stuff just sits and waits until someone else posts something. I like KGT, but for cryin' out loud, the guy needs to get some more interests.

464 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:32:18pm

re: #457 Guanxi88
"We all have it coming, kid"

Youtube Video
465 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:32:34pm

re: #464 Killgore Trout

"We all have it coming, kid"

[Video]

Yes! SOMEONE got the reference!

466 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:32:43pm

re: #460 Guanxi88

It's a bunch of people walking down a street with a band, but that's not important right now.

Did someone say Parade?

Youtube Video
467 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:33:04pm

Just saw a post over at Volokh that blew me away. David Kopel wants Martin Heidegger's work reclassified from "philosophy" to "Nazism" because Heidegger was a Nazi. Read the comments. He gets his ass handed to him many times over. Yes - Heidegger was a Nazi but his scholarship has nothing to do with German Nationalism or racial theory. And Being and Time predates the Nazi party.

It is like saying we should rename NASA to NAZA because Wernher Von Braun got American rockets flying.

Anyways, read the comments and notice the sort of Tea Party reductionism from the few who support the idea (including Iowahawk).

468 austin_blue  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:34:25pm

re: #465 Guanxi88

Yes! SOMEONE got the reference!

Well, apparently he has some other interests!

469 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:36:33pm

re: #467 karmic_inquisitor

Space travel iz government funded socialistic fascism, maaan!

470 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:37:03pm

re: #467 karmic_inquisitor

Just saw a post over at Volokh that blew me away. David Kopel wants Martin Heidegger's work reclassified from "philosophy" to "Nazism" because Heidegger was a Nazi. Read the comments. He gets his ass handed to him many times over. Yes - Heidegger was a Nazi but his scholarship has nothing to do with German Nationalism or racial theory. And Being and Time predates the Nazi party.

It is like saying we should rename NASA to NAZA because Wernher Von Braun got American rockets flying.

Anyways, read the comments and notice the sort of Tea Party reductionism from the few who support the idea (including Iowahawk).

Unf*ckingbelievable! Is this what it's come down to?

Heidegger was a brilliant philosopher. Heidegger was a nazi. The former ought to have prevented the latter. That it did not makes the matter worthy of study, and does not diminish his work as a philosopher one whit.

F*cking morons!

471 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:38:16pm

re: #468 austin_blue

Well, apparently he has some other interests!

Not really, I just see all of Clint Eastwood's work as an allegory for Sarah Palin's life story in a metaphysical allegory of symbolism.

472 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:38:55pm

Indeed, the problem of Heidegger the nazi was one of the many paradoxes of modernity that drove Strauss and his students (my teachers) to their study of philosophy.

473 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:39:59pm

re: #471 Killgore Trout

Not really, I just see all of Clint Eastwood's work as an allegory for Sarah Palin's life story in a metaphysical allegory of symbolism.

See, this is what I can get into. Humor, pop-cult analysis and meta-analysis. This endless linking to proofs of an opinion long-since formed and hardened is just pointless. Like clog-dancing.

474 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:40:29pm

re: #471 Killgore Trout

Not really, I just see all of Clint Eastwood's work as an allegory for Sarah Palin's life story in a metaphysical allegory of symbolism.

And that's why I like you.

475 austin_blue  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:41:02pm

re: #471 Killgore Trout

Not really, I just see all of Clint Eastwood's work as an allegory for Sarah Palin's life story in a metaphysical allegory of symbolism.

Ha! Well played!

476 shai_au  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:43:20pm

re: #471 Killgore Trout

Not really, I just see all of Clint Eastwood's work as an allegory for Sarah Palin's life story in a metaphysical allegory of symbolism.

Specifically, which ones? Space Cowboys?

"I can see Russia from here!"

477 austin_blue  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:45:42pm

re: #472 Guanxi88

Indeed, the problem of Heidegger the nazi was one of the many paradoxes of modernity that drove Strauss and his students (my teachers) to their study of philosophy.

Right, Strauss shouldn't be listened to because Hitler liked him. He was 72 when he did this as a "Nazi Official":

His decision to produce Friedenstag in 1938, a one-act opera set in a besieged fortress during the Thirty Years' War – essentially a hymn to peace and a thinly veiled criticism of the Third Reich – during a time when an entire nation was preparing for war, has been seen as extraordinarily brave. With its contrasts between freedom and enslavement, war and peace, light and dark, this work has been considered by some to be more related to Fidelio than to any of Strauss's other operas. Production ceased shortly after the outbreak of war in 1939.

478 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:45:42pm

How terrorists were dealt with by FDR

Excerpts from Roosevelt's Secret War: FDR and World War II Espionage, Joseph E. Persico, 2001.

Good read.

479 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:46:25pm

re: #473 Guanxi88

Poppycock! Clog dancing is clearly about Ron Paul.

480 austin_blue  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:47:53pm

re: #476 shai_au

Specifically, which ones? Space Cowboys?

"I can see Russia from here!"

Every Which Way But Loose

481 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:49:18pm

re: #480 austin_blue

Every Which Way But Loose

Right turn, Clyde.

482 shai_au  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:50:09pm

re: #480 austin_blue

Every Which Way But Loose

See, I was going to suggest that, but hesitated because Eastwood didn't actually direct it. It is a better fit, of course.

483 austin_blue  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:50:55pm

re: #481 NJDhockeyfan

Right turn, Clyde.

HARD right turn, Clyde.

484 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:51:05pm

re: #479 Killgore Trout
*shudders*
Clog dancing.
Ron Paul.

485 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:51:53pm

re: #477 austin_blue

Right, Strauss shouldn't be listened to because Hitler liked him. He was 72 when he did this as a "Nazi Official":

His decision to produce Friedenstag in 1938, a one-act opera set in a besieged fortress during the Thirty Years' War – essentially a hymn to peace and a thinly veiled criticism of the Third Reich – during a time when an entire nation was preparing for war, has been seen as extraordinarily brave. With its contrasts between freedom and enslavement, war and peace, light and dark, this work has been considered by some to be more related to Fidelio than to any of Strauss's other operas. Production ceased shortly after the outbreak of war in 1939.

I was talking about Leo, not Richard, whose music I dig.

486 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:53:40pm

Chuck Norris is on Hannity.

487 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:54:18pm

re: #484 Floral Giraffe

Some good clog dancing here...
Can't Tell Me Nothing with Zach Galifianakis

Youtube Video
488 shai_au  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:54:36pm

re: #486 NJDhockeyfan

Why? What did Hannity do to make him angry?

489 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:54:49pm

re: #484 Floral Giraffe

*shudders*
Clog dancing.
Ron Paul.

And on that bizarre note, I'm going home. Wife just called and told me she changed her mind. Says I CAN stay at the house, and am not absolutely required to die in the gutter like a dog.

So, I'm back in solid with the Mrs.

490 austin_blue  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:54:50pm

re: #485 Guanxi88

I was talking about Leo, not Richard, whose music I dig.

Ah, then you should check out the controversy about Richard Strauss and the Nazis. Ongoing brouhaha in the classical music field. I find a lot of his work pretentious (other stuff breathtaking), but it's a decent example of what happens when politicians try to co-opt art.

491 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:56:37pm

re: #486 NJDhockeyfan

Chuck Norris is on Hannity.

He should be on Glen Beck's show. And he should kick Glen Beck in the head. Repeatedly.

/entirely kidding

492 austin_blue  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:56:42pm

re: #486 NJDhockeyfan

Chuck Norris is on Hannity.

Love Fest! Two high school graduates talking economics!

493 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:57:10pm

re: #489 Guanxi88

And on that bizarre note, I'm going home. Wife just called and told me she changed her mind. Says I CAN stay at the house, and am not absolutely required to die in the gutter like a dog.

So, I'm back in solid with the Mrs.

What did you do?

494 Varek Raith  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:58:23pm

re: #492 austin_blue

Love Fest! Two high school graduates talking economics!

Maybe they stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night?
/

495 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 9:59:25pm

Is Chuck wearing a hair piece?

496 austin_blue  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 10:00:55pm

re: #493 Dark_Falcon

What did you do?

She has triskadekaphobia. Seven minutes to midnight here in Austin for Guanxi and I. By the time he gets home, it'll be over.

497 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 10:00:56pm

re: #493 Dark_Falcon

What did you do?

Told her that my doing the dishes was not an acknowledgment of wrongdoing on my part, nor was it a peace-offering for hanging up on her the previous day when she called me at work 4 times for the same thing.

I hung up on her and she kept calling back. Previous day's dialogue:

"Why do you hang up? You know I'll just call back?" says she

"Why do you call back? You know I'll just hang up?" says I.

"If you've got caller ID, why do you pick up when you know it's me?" says she, very cunningly.

"Because if I didn't pick up, I wouldn't have the joy of hanging up on you, which is the only real pleasure I get from your phone calls." Said I.

498 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 10:01:51pm

re: #497 Guanxi88

Told her that my doing the dishes was not an acknowledgment of wrongdoing on my part, nor was it a peace-offering for hanging up on her the previous day when she called me at work 4 times for the same thing.

I hung up on her and she kept calling back. Previous day's dialogue:

"Why do you hang up? You know I'll just call back?" says she

"Why do you call back? You know I'll just hang up?" says I.

"If you've got caller ID, why do you pick up when you know it's me?" says she, very cunningly.

"Because if I didn't pick up, I wouldn't have the joy of hanging up on you, which is the only real pleasure I get from your phone calls." Said I.

and that's when the fight started.

499 austin_blue  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 10:02:31pm

re: #497 Guanxi88

Told her that my doing the dishes was not an acknowledgment of wrongdoing on my part, nor was it a peace-offering for hanging up on her the previous day when she called me at work 4 times for the same thing.

I hung up on her and she kept calling back. Previous day's dialogue:

"Why do you hang up? You know I'll just call back?" says she

"Why do you call back? You know I'll just hang up?" says I.

"If you've got caller ID, why do you pick up when you know it's me?" says she, very cunningly.

"Because if I didn't pick up, I wouldn't have the joy of hanging up on you, which is the only real pleasure I get from your phone calls." Said I.

Oofah! Couch circuit!

500 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 10:02:46pm

re: #497 Guanxi88

Told her that my doing the dishes was not an acknowledgment of wrongdoing on my part, nor was it a peace-offering for hanging up on her the previous day when she called me at work 4 times for the same thing.

I hung up on her and she kept calling back. Previous day's dialogue:

"Why do you hang up? You know I'll just call back?" says she

"Why do you call back? You know I'll just hang up?" says I.

"If you've got caller ID, why do you pick up when you know it's me?" says she, very cunningly.

"Because if I didn't pick up, I wouldn't have the joy of hanging up on you, which is the only real pleasure I get from your phone calls." Said I.


You need to have a TV show. You can be the anti-Doctor Phil. And vastly more helpful to people.

501 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 10:03:26pm

Danville TEA Party to burn Rep. Perriello in effigyre: #497 Guanxi88

You think it might be a good idea to build a doghouse...an 18' x 24' three story doghouse?

502 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 10:03:34pm

re: #499 austin_blue

Oofah! Couch circuit!

hey, I'd gone to my office and cleared off the desktop. With my jacket and last sunday's Statesman, I had a bed ready to go at work. Get a jumpstart on the workweek.

503 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 10:03:53pm

re: #501 NJDhockeyfan

PIMF!

505 Varek Raith  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 10:05:19pm

re: #504 NJDhockeyfan

Burning anyone in effigy is just damn creepy.

506 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 10:06:09pm

re: #505 Varek Raith

Burning anyone in effigy is just damn creepy.

Word.

507 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 10:07:12pm

Hey - we need to invent a field of "investigation" that can get on Coast to Coast. It shouldn't be difficult. Heard a "parascientist" last night.

508 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 10:07:25pm

re: #500 karmic_inquisitor

You need to have a TV show. You can be the anti-Doctor Phil. And vastly more helpful to people.

The last thing ANYONE needs is greater exposure to me. How my wife has managed to put up with it is more than I know.

I've told her before, in other discussions, that I question her intelligence, judgment, and sense of self-respect, and cite the fact that she married me as the chief evidence against her on these counts.

"I mean, how the hell can anyone respect someone so desperate or foolish as to link her lot with mine? For pete's sake, I have no self-respect whatsoever, and I know myself better than anyone could. You're a poor judge of character." And so on.

Mine was a unique upbringing, with the classical troika of hatred, abuse, and contempt (three of the four cardinal virtues of slavic family life, the fourth being alcoholism).

If more people took a good long look at themselves, they'd end up like me, who won't shave in a mirror just to avoid having to look myself in the face.

(All is half-kidding.)

509 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 10:08:30pm

re: #507 karmic_inquisitor

Hey - we need to invent a field of "investigation" that can get on Coast to Coast. It shouldn't be difficult. Heard a "parascientist" last night.

"parasane"? "paracrazy"?

parastupid? paraclever?

510 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 10:09:20pm

re: #504 NJDhockeyfan

Danville TEA Party to burn Rep. Perriello in effigy

Here's their theme song:

Youtube Video
511 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 10:10:08pm

re: #508 Guanxi88

However, precisely because I'm full of self-loathing, I am able to live peacefully with most people; a lack of self-respect and personal dignity makes it far easier to get along with your fellow man, as you know they must suffer the same as you do.

512 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 10:10:26pm

re: #509 Guanxi88

I wonder what paraUniversity gives out paraDegrees for Parascience.

513 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 10:11:12pm

Some ParaScience investigations of the paranormal are listed here

[Link: www.parascience.org.uk...]

Here is one entry -

Hex Nightclub

This is an ongoing case that Para.Science have been investigating, and involves some wierd experiences in a nightclub.

Pun need not follow.

514 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 10:11:30pm

re: #512 Fenway_Nation

I wonder what paraUniversity gives out paraDegrees for Parascience.

Paraguay Paratechnical?

515 austin_blue  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 10:12:10pm

re: #502 Guanxi88

hey, I'd gone to my office and cleared off the desktop. With my jacket and last sunday's Statesman, I had a bed ready to go at work. Get a jumpstart on the workweek.

Speaking of the Statesman, saw Joh Kelso last weekend at Central Market Westgate. Man, he's looking rough. Down to maybe 120 pounds. That chemo is tearing him up. I fear he will be stepping on a rainbow soon.

516 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 10:12:43pm

re: #515 austin_blue

Speaking of the Statesman, saw Joh Kelso last weekend at Central Market Westgate. Man, he's looking rough. Down to maybe 120 pounds. That chemo is tearing him up. I fear he will be stepping on a rainbow soon.

Poor guy! Any word on Leslie? last I heard she was near dead.

517 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 10:13:09pm

re: #514 Guanxi88

If the have an ROTC program, does that make the paramilitary?

Is the school nurse a paramedic?

518 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 10:13:29pm

re: #512 Fenway_Nation

I wonder what paraUniversity gives out paraDegrees for Parascience.

State University of Para

519 austin_blue  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 10:13:31pm

re: #508 Guanxi88

The last thing ANYONE needs is greater exposure to me. How my wife has managed to put up with it is more than I know.

I've told her before, in other discussions, that I question her intelligence, judgment, and sense of self-respect, and cite the fact that she married me as the chief evidence against her on these counts.

"I mean, how the hell can anyone respect someone so desperate or foolish as to link her lot with mine? For pete's sake, I have no self-respect whatsoever, and I know myself better than anyone could. You're a poor judge of character." And so on.

Mine was a unique upbringing, with the classical troika of hatred, abuse, and contempt (three of the four cardinal virtues of slavic family life, the fourth being alcoholism).

If more people took a good long look at themselves, they'd end up like me, who won't shave in a mirror just to avoid having to look myself in the face.

(All is half-kidding.)

Shower shaver, too, huh?

520 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 10:13:58pm

re: #519 austin_blue

Shower shaver, too, huh?

Ain't we all, these days?

521 Guanxi88  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 10:15:13pm

re: #516 Guanxi88

Poor guy! Any word on Leslie? last I heard she was near dead.

[Link: www.statesman.com...]

Tuesday, October 13, 2009

Albert "Leslie" Cochran — Austin's homeless, thong-clad celebrity — remains in a semi-vegetative state at University Medical Center Brackenridge after he was found unconscious on a sidewalk by a taxi driver Oct. 3, according to a public health official with knowledge of the incident.

The official said that Cochran's injuries are life-threatening and that if he survives, he may experience "life-altering effects," including remaining in a vegetative state.

"He's very, very sick," the official said.

522 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 10:17:01pm

Well - I am going to do a paraInvestigation of the interior of my eyelids. Full report in the morning.

523 austin_blue  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 10:17:55pm

re: #516 Guanxi88

Poor guy! Any word on Leslie? last I heard she was near dead.

Much better. In a rehab hospital for closed head injuries.

For those who are interested, here is our numerous times mayoral candidate, who often has a better platform than the legitimate candidates:

[Link: www.news8austin.com...]

524 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 10:18:09pm

Atheist Billboard Prompts Death Threats

If you don’t believe in God we’ll fucking kill you!

The Cincinnati Coalition of Reason (Cin CoR) put a billboard on Tuesday to promote atheism. By Wednesday they were told it had to come down due to the amount of death threats received over the sign that trumpeted: “Don’t believe in God? You are not alone.”

525 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 10:20:10pm

re: #522 karmic_inquisitor

Well - I am going to do a paraInvestigation of the interior of my eyelids. Full report in the morning.

Same here. I don't know about a report in the morning but I'll have a beer or two here tomorrow night.

526 Racer X  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 10:20:34pm

re: #478 NJDhockeyfan

How terrorists were dealt with by FDR

Good read.

Wait, you mean FDR didn't get the ACLU involved and make this all about failures in the previous administration?

527 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 10:22:17pm

re: #526 Racer X

Wait, you mean FDR didn't get the ACLU involved and make this all about failures in the previous administration?

I keep hearing Obama is the next FDR.

Obama is no FDR.

G'nite lizards!

528 austin_blue  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 10:23:13pm

re: #524 NJDhockeyfan

Atheist Billboard Prompts Death Threats

I'd be surprised, but...no.

I'm a Deist, not an Atheist, but when I mention my beliefs, I am often accosted by True Believers informing me that I am on the Highway to HE Double Toothpicks.

Which was great metal, courtesy of AC/DC.

529 Racer X  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 10:25:20pm

re: #527 NJDhockeyfan

I keep hearing Obama is the next FDR.

Obama is no FDR.

G'nite lizards!

No, no he is not.

Three days after all eight saboteurs were in custody, FDR sent Biddle a memo making clear his expectations. "The two Americans are guilty of treason," he told the attorney general. "I do not see how they can offer any adequate defense. . . it seems to me that the death penalty is almost obligatory."

As for the six German citizens, "They were apprehended in civilian clothes. This is an absolute parallel of the Case of Major [John] Andre in the Revolution and of Nathan Hale. Both of these men were hanged." The President hammered home his point once more: "The death penalty is called for by usage and by the extreme gravity of the war aim and the very existence of our American govemment."

530 ArchangelMichael  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 10:25:59pm

re: #528 austin_blue

I'd be surprised, but...no.

I'm a Deist, not an Atheist, but when I mention my beliefs, I am often accosted by True Believers informing me that I am on the Highway to HE Double Toothpicks.

Which was great metal, courtesy of AC/DC.

Because that's step 2 on the road to NAZIS!

"Darwinism" -> atheism -> eugenics -> Hitler!

//

531 austin_blue  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 10:31:29pm

re: #530 ArchangelMichael

Because that's step 2 on the road to NAZIS!

"Darwinism" -> atheism -> eugenics -> Hitler!

//

Well, sure. I've been working on my autobiography. I'm thinking I'll call it "My Struggle". It's a combo of life lessons and political philosophy of how to advance the secular Deist agenda and get rid of the Christian right by the selective use of propaganda and, if necessary, internment camps.

I think it'll be a big seller!

///do I hafta?///

532 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 10:33:26pm

re: #504 NJDhockeyfan

Danville TEA Party to burn Rep. Perriello in effigy

Here's their theme song:

Youtube Video
re: #527 NJDhockeyfan

I keep hearing Obama is the next FDR.

Obama is no FDR.

G'nite lizards!

No, he's not. FDR was a man. Obama is an adolescent, pretending to be a man. Obama lacks FDR's physical and moral courage.

533 austin_blue  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 10:35:16pm

re: #532 Dark_Falcon

No, he's not. FDR was a man. Obama is an adolescent, pretending to be a man. Obama lacks FDR's physical and moral courage.

We'll see. The Afghan decision will show if he has stones. What you think that decision should be may very well be different than mine.

534 freetoken  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 10:39:30pm

re: #532 Dark_Falcon

Here's their theme song:

Youtube Video

I'm thinking something like this might be more appropriate for them:

MP3 Audio
535 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 10:55:15pm

re: #533 austin_blue

We'll see. The Afghan decision will show if he has stones. What you think that decision should be may very well be different than mine.

I don't know how to answer that. We cannot allow Afghanistan to be used as a terrorist haven. What we need to figure our is how to prevent that without destroying the country (an option I am not, repeat not, advocating). A troop surge seems to me the best choice.

536 abolitionist  Fri, Nov 13, 2009 11:11:50pm

re: #531 austin_blue

Was trying to reply to "My Struggle" comment, but kept running into Duplicate comment! error msg, and post would not go.

Retry, after restarting windows and browser:

Yes, sadly, you probably need that sarc tag. My Struggle !? Crap. Yet another self-help book. Dime-a-dozen.

( Ok, the dime-a-dozen part may be off a bit. )

537 SixDegrees  Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:29:38am

re: #524 NJDhockeyfan

Atheist Billboard Prompts Death Threats

It's the expansive tolerance exhibited by the religious right that makes them so popular.

538 The Sanity Inspector  Sat, Nov 14, 2009 7:32:42am

First anniversary of the Mumbai massacre is coming up.

539 Scrub  Sat, Nov 14, 2009 9:38:26am

I have had an LGF RSS feed embeded on my myspace page for quite a while. Thanks for getting to this, Charles.


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