The Genius of Ivan Mladek
This afternoon’s musical selection features the prodigiously talented Ivan Mládek, performing his international hit “Jožin z bažin.”
(Blame: Noah.)
This afternoon’s musical selection features the prodigiously talented Ivan Mládek, performing his international hit “Jožin z bažin.”
(Blame: Noah.)
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Killgore Trout Sat, Nov 14, 2009 12:48:52pm |
re: #1 Charles
Lol. I guess nobody appreciates fine music anymore. Some of the versions on youtube have over 4 million views. It's a hit somewhere.
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Clemente Sat, Nov 14, 2009 12:49:19pm |
"The only thing that will work is a crop duster!"
Gotta remember to pull that one out at the next managerial meeting.
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bloodnok Sat, Nov 14, 2009 12:49:30pm |
That's some top rate dancing by the bearded harmony singer. He really complements Mladek's complete lack of motion and charisma. Though his sportcoat speaks louder than he does.
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_RememberTonyC Sat, Nov 14, 2009 12:50:04pm |
I'm reminded of Dan Aykroyd and Steve Martin on SNL in the late 1970's ...
We are two wild and crazy guys!
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Ministry of Fairness and Balance Sat, Nov 14, 2009 12:50:44pm |
I think they had very powerful psachedelics back then, the sort that we no longer have around today, that's the only explanation I can find for it.
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ryannon Sat, Nov 14, 2009 12:51:34pm |
Renegade Eastern European Amish trying to break into showbiz.
Obviously have come to no good.
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reine.de.tout Sat, Nov 14, 2009 12:52:11pm |
re: #5 bloodnok
That's some top rate dancing by the bearded harmony singer. He really complements Mladek's complete lack of motion and charisma. Though his sportcoat speaks louder than he does.
I wanna know what happened to that guy's neck (the bearded guy). It seems to be non-existent.
Stunned silence is the only appropriate response to this.
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Gus Sat, Nov 14, 2009 12:52:30pm |
I think we found a new interrogation technique.
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Ministry of Fairness and Balance Sat, Nov 14, 2009 12:53:48pm |
despite fear of blowing my own horn (or whatever device) I offer Smoke on the Muddy Waters:
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Clemente Sat, Nov 14, 2009 12:54:12pm |
And til now I hadn't truly grasped the under-appreciated art of baritone kazoo.
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Ministry of Fairness and Balance Sat, Nov 14, 2009 12:55:09pm |
is that what he was playing? Looked like he was blowing into a cowbell
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Nov 14, 2009 12:55:46pm |
re: #12 Gus 802
I think we found a new interrogation technique.
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Won't work on me. I just want to polka down on the collective farm.
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wrenchwench Sat, Nov 14, 2009 12:57:11pm |
ralphieboy
despite fear of blowing my own horn (or whatever device) I offer Smoke on the Muddy Waters:
I thought even YouTube had standards. I was mistaken.
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Gus Sat, Nov 14, 2009 12:57:47pm |
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Joo-LiZ Sat, Nov 14, 2009 12:59:19pm |
Lizards!
I have a question, I'm sure it's been asked dozens upon dozens of times before, but I don't know where to begin the search for past archives for something like this.
My sister has always been extremely apolitical. My father and I are both fairly conservative (particularly in the economic and foreign policy sense).
Recently my sister decided to start reading political book and get herself informed and I just found out the first book she got was a recommendation from her boss.
Lo and behold, it's Naomi Klein's "The Shock Doctrine". She messaged me today, basically saying "Have you ever heard of this book, it seems REALLLY liberal".
Bottom line, after explaining who Naomi Klein is and what she is known for, I convinced her to let me recommend the next book she reads. Now, I'm left with the task of finding a book that does a good job of presenting the world from a conservative view-point at a level that someone not-so-involved will be able to grasp.
I don't think my sister is looking to "choose sides" at this point, but I think she is looking for enough material to be able to follow political conversations, and I don't want all her ammunition to be from the likes of Naomi Klein.
Any recommendations?
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wrenchwench Sat, Nov 14, 2009 12:59:34pm |
(Blame: Noah.)
Maybe that'll cut down on the hat tip whining.
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bloodnok Sat, Nov 14, 2009 12:59:44pm |
Lost: 1 Sport jacket.
If found please contact Uncle Floyd c/o the Uncle Floyd Show
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Barking Pumpkin Sat, Nov 14, 2009 1:00:30pm |
I immediately flashed on Andy Kaufman in character as "Latka" (from Taxi) speaking in his made up East European language.
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Ministry of Fairness and Balance Sat, Nov 14, 2009 1:01:00pm |
re: #23 Barking Pumpkin
I immediately flashed on Andy Kaufman in character as "Latka" (from Taxi) speaking in his made up East European language.
I can well imagine this fellow was one of his inspirations.
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wrenchwench Sat, Nov 14, 2009 1:03:21pm |
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Guanxi88 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 1:04:24pm |
re: #20 Joo-LiZ
Lizards!
I have a question, I'm sure it's been asked dozens upon dozens of times before, but I don't know where to begin the search for past archives for something like this.
My sister has always been extremely apolitical. My father and I are both fairly conservative (particularly in the economic and foreign policy sense).
Recently my sister decided to start reading political book and get herself informed and I just found out the first book she got was a recommendation from her boss.
Lo and behold, it's Naomi Klein's "The Shock Doctrine". She messaged me today, basically saying "Have you ever heard of this book, it seems REALLLY liberal".
Bottom line, after explaining who Naomi Klein is and what she is known for, I convinced her to let me recommend the next book she reads. Now, I'm left with the task of finding a book that does a good job of presenting the world from a conservative view-point at a level that someone not-so-involved will be able to grasp.
I don't think my sister is looking to "choose sides" at this point, but I think she is looking for enough material to be able to follow political conversations, and I don't want all her ammunition to be from the likes of Naomi Klein.
Any recommendations?
Give her "Witness" by Whittaker Chambers. It lays out an entire way of being and way of life in the biography of one man, who went from Communist agent to devout quaker and anti-Communist, all while maintaining the same moral beliefs and world-view.
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bratwurst Sat, Nov 14, 2009 1:05:27pm |
re: #22 bloodnok
Lost: 1 Sport jacket.
If found please contact Uncle Floyd c/o the Uncle Floyd Show
Looney Skip Rooney!
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Gus Sat, Nov 14, 2009 1:05:53pm |
re: #27 wrenchwench
OK, now I'm confused again.
Actor as well. He has a Wiki page with more information.
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wrenchwench Sat, Nov 14, 2009 1:07:33pm |
re: #30 Gus 802
Actor as well. He has a Wiki page with more information.
I mean, if what's up top here is not comedy, what is it? Music?!?
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Gus Sat, Nov 14, 2009 1:11:13pm |
re: #32 wrenchwench
I mean, if what's up top here is not comedy, what is it? Music?!?
/
Either that or a bar in Czechoslovakia, James Bond, and some shadowy figures involving the Warsaw Pact.
/
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Noah's Arrrgh Sat, Nov 14, 2009 1:11:41pm |
The signer with the fancy dance steps is the inimitable Ivo Pešák.
Here's the funny thing: even though this is quite old (1978), this video apparently went viral in Russia last year, and according to a Russian colleague of mine, it could often be heard in cell phone ring tones while riding the metro.
There's something of a crazed genius in Czech videos. František Ringo Čech had a pop hit in the 80s called "Pražákům těm je tu hej", which means "Prague inhabitants have it great". The main lines are "Pražákům těm je tu hej, ty nikam nezablouděj", which means "Prague inhabitants have it great, they never get lost". The rest of the song basically lists some of the streets in Prague.
In the video, a bearded Ringo Čech plays an angst-ridden country bumpkin running around Prague with his goat trying to figure out where to pitch his tent to a 1980s techno-grunge beat. In other words, it has all the ingredients for a great video! ;-)
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bloodnok Sat, Nov 14, 2009 1:13:24pm |
re: #32 wrenchwench
I mean, if what's up top here is not comedy, what is it? Music?!?
/
Music. I've heard that at a performance of Die Zauberflöte in 1791 Mozart had a gentleman walk onstage and blow into a pane of glass in a similar fashion. And you don't call HIM a comedian, do you?
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Nov 14, 2009 1:15:02pm |
re: #20 Joo-LiZ
Lizards!
I have a question, I'm sure it's been asked dozens upon dozens of times before, but I don't know where to begin the search for past archives for something like this.
My sister has always been extremely apolitical. My father and I are both fairly conservative (particularly in the economic and foreign policy sense).
Recently my sister decided to start reading political book and get herself informed and I just found out the first book she got was a recommendation from her boss.
Lo and behold, it's Naomi Klein's "The Shock Doctrine". She messaged me today, basically saying "Have you ever heard of this book, it seems REALLLY liberal".
Bottom line, after explaining who Naomi Klein is and what she is known for, I convinced her to let me recommend the next book she reads. Now, I'm left with the task of finding a book that does a good job of presenting the world from a conservative view-point at a level that someone not-so-involved will be able to grasp.
I don't think my sister is looking to "choose sides" at this point, but I think she is looking for enough material to be able to follow political conversations, and I don't want all her ammunition to be from the likes of Naomi Klein.
Any recommendations?
What kinds of topics is she interested in?
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Joo-LiZ Sat, Nov 14, 2009 1:16:15pm |
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Gus Sat, Nov 14, 2009 1:18:01pm |
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Joo-LiZ Sat, Nov 14, 2009 1:19:21pm |
re: #39 SanFranciscoZionist
I think she just wants to learn more about current events in general, with some historical backing to it. Something to give her a compass with which to navigate major news events that go on.
Nothing too philosophical, but with concrete examples of why things are the way they are.
Sorry if I can't be more specific, when it comes down to it, if it's a good book and readable, I'm sure it'll be fine, but I just want to give her something that balances whatever anti-capitalist and "america is a imperial power" trife she'll be reading in the Klein book.
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bratwurst Sat, Nov 14, 2009 1:19:40pm |
re: #20 Joo-LiZ
Any recommendations?
How about Sarah Palin Going Rogue? According to Rush Limbaugh, it's "one of the most substantive policy books I've read".
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wrenchwench Sat, Nov 14, 2009 1:21:49pm |
re: #44 bratwurst
How about Sarah Palin Going Rogue? According to Rush Limbaugh, it's "one of the most substantive policy books I've read".
[Link: mediamatters.org...]
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This is a comedy thread, then.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Nov 14, 2009 1:23:19pm |
re: #42 Joo-LiZ
Have her google Dr. Thomas Sowell. He does a weekly column. He has books but writes a column every week. I don't know the exact address. But you'll find it.
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Joo-LiZ Sat, Nov 14, 2009 1:25:42pm |
re: #46 Cannadian Club Akbar
Yeah, I should do some Thomas Sowell reading myself. She's not the type to sit in front of a computer and do searching for this sort of stuff... Books are the best medium which is why I am asking for that.
I have plenty of my own online sources, recommended newspapers, websites, journalists, etc. It's the books that I am hunting down now.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Nov 14, 2009 1:26:23pm |
re: #46 Cannadian Club Akbar
[Link: www.tsowell.com...]
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Gus Sat, Nov 14, 2009 1:28:25pm |
re: #44 bratwurst
How about Sarah Palin Going Rogue? According to Rush Limbaugh, it's "one of the most substantive policy books I've read".
[Link: mediamatters.org...]
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Did you hear the line where he says "state controlled media?"
Yikes.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Nov 14, 2009 1:28:25pm |
re: #47 Joo-LiZ
Yeah, I should do some Thomas Sowell reading myself. She's not the type to sit in front of a computer and do searching for this sort of stuff... Books are the best medium which is why I am asking for that.
I have plenty of my own online sources, recommended newspapers, websites, journalists, etc. It's the books that I am hunting down now.
I understand. But columns are the most up to date resources available and generally a quick read. That's why I recommended it.
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Noah's Arrrgh Sat, Nov 14, 2009 1:30:49pm |
re: #27 wrenchwench
He became known as a comedian in the 1980s.
OK, now I'm confused again.
If you go to his website, click the link for "O Sněhurce" Here he retells the story of Snow White. Even if you don't understand what he's saying, you can get the sense of his comic delivery, which is really good.
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Joo-LiZ Sat, Nov 14, 2009 1:31:08pm |
re: #50 Cannadian Club Akbar
I think columns are better once you have a grounding with which to understand what they are talking about.
FWIW I do appreciate the recommendation.
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bratwurst Sat, Nov 14, 2009 1:32:02pm |
re: #49 Gus 802
Did you hear the line where he says "state controlled media?"
Yikes.
Anyone surprised a book with no footnotes or index is among the most substantive books high school graduate Rush Limbaugh has read?
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Irenicum Sat, Nov 14, 2009 1:32:16pm |
re: #36 Noah's Arrrgh
That's four minutes and forty one seconds I will never get back.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Nov 14, 2009 1:33:01pm |
re: #52 Joo-LiZ
I think columns are better once you have a grounding with which to understand what they are talking about.
FWIW I do appreciate the recommendation.
I liked "Shut up and Sing" by Laura Ingraham.
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Gus Sat, Nov 14, 2009 1:33:41pm |
re: #53 bratwurst
Anyone surprised a book with no footnotes or index is among the most substantive books high school graduate Rush Limbaugh has read?
And she didn't even "write" it.
What a world.
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Noah's Arrrgh Sat, Nov 14, 2009 1:34:09pm |
re: #54 Irenicum
That's four minutes and forty one seconds I will never get back.
On the up-side, you'll never be able to watch James Carville without thinking of Joey the Swampthing...
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Nov 14, 2009 1:34:53pm |
re: #57 Noah's Arrrgh
On the up-side, you'll never be able to watch James Carville without thinking of Joey the Swampthing...
I just don't watch James Carville!!
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Big Steve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 1:35:25pm |
Question...if one goes through the ad on the right for the Amazon Denim Shop will the LGF Amazon Associate get credit?
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wrenchwench Sat, Nov 14, 2009 1:37:57pm |
re: #51 Noah's Arrrgh
He became known as a comedian in the 1980s.
If you go to his website, click the link for "O Sněhurce" Here he retells the story of Snow White. Even if you don't understand what he's saying, you can get the sense of his comic delivery, which is really good.
For the first time in my life, I desire a knowledge of the Czech language.
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wrenchwench Sat, Nov 14, 2009 1:40:50pm |
re: #59 Big Steve
Question...if one goes through the ad on the right for the Amazon Denim Shop will the LGF Amazon Associate get credit?
I believe the answer is "yes."
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wrenchwench Sat, Nov 14, 2009 1:45:09pm |
Here's Paul Simon, as played by Chevy Chase.
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The Hoopster Sat, Nov 14, 2009 1:49:34pm |
re: #62 wrenchwench
Here's Paul Simon, as played by Chevy Chase.
[Video]
Hey you! I have a good idea to make big bucks with Bikes...
Wanna hear?
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wrenchwench Sat, Nov 14, 2009 1:50:58pm |
re: #63 HoosierHoops
Hey you! I have a good idea to make big bucks with Bikes...
Wanna hear?
I'm listening!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Nov 14, 2009 1:51:11pm |
re: #63 HoosierHoops
Hey you! I have a good idea to make big bucks with Bikes...
Wanna hear?
Scooter rentals on the beach?
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bratwurst Sat, Nov 14, 2009 1:51:32pm |
BTW: Anyone who enjoys hearing the rich Czech language in action, here is my favorite Czech pop rock artist, Vladimír Mišík:
First, with his first famous group, "Blue Effect" circa late 1968 with "Sunny Grave":
Then as a hit-making solo artist in 1976 with "Why Do They Cut the Little Boys Hair?":
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_RememberTonyC Sat, Nov 14, 2009 1:52:36pm |
here we go again ... Obama bows before another leader ...
[Link: latimesblogs.latimes.com...]
appropriate or not?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Nov 14, 2009 1:53:35pm |
re: #67 _RememberTonyC
here we go again ... Obama bows before another leader ...
[Link: latimesblogs.latimes.com...]
appropriate or not?
It's a custom. I'm OK with it.
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spinmore Sat, Nov 14, 2009 1:53:54pm |
re: #20 Joo-LiZ
When she's not reading maybe she could tune in to Dennis Prager (?)
I find him to be a good listen, but what do I know?
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Irenicum Sat, Nov 14, 2009 1:55:00pm |
re: #68 Cannadian Club Akbar
I noticed twitter dicks were already OUTRAGED!!!
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bratwurst Sat, Nov 14, 2009 1:55:08pm |
re: #67 _RememberTonyC
here we go again ... Obama bows before another leader ...
[Link: latimesblogs.latimes.com...]
appropriate or not?
See Charles' comment in the overnight thread. If there is a protocol against the president observing local customs while abroad, our host has not found it.
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_RememberTonyC Sat, Nov 14, 2009 1:55:11pm |
jeez bratwurst ... a down ding just for asking a question?
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The Hoopster Sat, Nov 14, 2009 1:55:14pm |
re: #64 wrenchwench
I'm listening!
I think we should make a Calendar with smoking hot girls on Bikes..
It worked with Harley motorcycles..
Hope you aren't insulted..But really cute girls on Bikes would sell big time...
Guys will buy anything with beautiful women on it.
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_RememberTonyC Sat, Nov 14, 2009 1:55:51pm |
re: #72 bratwurst
See Charles' comment in the overnight thread. If there is a protocol against the president observing local customs while abroad, our host has not found it.
sorry ... i dont spend 24/7 on LGF ...
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bratwurst Sat, Nov 14, 2009 1:56:07pm |
re: #73 _RememberTonyC
jeez bratwurst ... a down ding just for asking a question?
The anti-bowing meme is a symptom of ODS.
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Big Steve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 1:56:09pm |
re: #67 _RememberTonyC
here we go again ... Obama bows before another leader ...
[Link: latimesblogs.latimes.com...]
appropriate or not?
Beats ralphing on him ala the first G. Bush
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Nov 14, 2009 1:56:30pm |
re: #74 HoosierHoops
I think we should make a Calendar with smoking hot girls on Bikes..
It worked with Harley motorcycles..
Hope you aren't insulted..But really cute girls on Bikes would sell big time...
Guys will buy anything with beautiful women on it.
Better idea. Hot chicks on cans of beer.
/
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_RememberTonyC Sat, Nov 14, 2009 1:57:00pm |
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wrenchwench Sat, Nov 14, 2009 1:57:38pm |
re: #74 HoosierHoops
I think we should make a Calendar with smoking hot girls on Bikes..
It worked with Harley motorcycles..
Hope you aren't insulted..But really cute girls on Bikes would sell big time...
Guys will buy anything with beautiful women on it.
I'm not insulted, I recognize reality. But I am a mere bike mechanic, not a publisher. You make 'em and wholesale 'em, I'll retail 'em for you.
Deal?
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_RememberTonyC Sat, Nov 14, 2009 1:59:01pm |
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bratwurst Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:00:23pm |
re: #82 _RememberTonyC
you're not a mind reader, so don't diagnose ods where it does not exist.
I voted for Obama, but certainly accept there are legit reasons to criticize him. Following local polite customs while abroad is not one of them.
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Joo-LiZ Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:00:53pm |
re: #55 Cannadian Club Akbar
That looks very promising. Might be the one I end up recommending.
Does it come across as being too... 'propagandistic', if I can use that word... or is it a reasoned/compelling book?
Hopefully you know what I am getting at.
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_RememberTonyC Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:01:04pm |
re: #83 bratwurst
I voted for Obama, but certainly accept there are legit reasons to criticize him. Following local polite customs while abroad is not one of them.
dude ... i asked a question ... i did not say what he did was wrong.
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wrenchwench Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:01:45pm |
re: #67 _RememberTonyC
here we go again ... Obama bows before another leader ...
[Link: latimesblogs.latimes.com...]
appropriate or not?
I know Obama is president of the world and everything, but I don't have a problem with such a young man showing a little deference to an elderly member of royalty. Heck, he may have apologized for Fat Man and Little Boy at the same time. I can't see it changing anything in the relations between our two countries, except perhaps for the better.
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The Hoopster Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:02:32pm |
re: #81 wrenchwench
I'm not insulted, I recognize reality. But I am a mere bike mechanic, not a publisher. You make 'em and wholesale 'em, I'll retail 'em for you.
Deal?
I got a buddy that is a photog... I think a girl with a background in different states would sell...I think Ms. July at the San Diego beach or Sedona would be wildly popular...I've been thinking about it for weeks...
Indiana is out of the question..Cornfields just doesn't work..
*wink*
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:03:18pm |
re: #84 Joo-LiZ
That looks very promising. Might be the one I end up recommending.
Does it come across as being too... 'propagandistic', if I can use that word... or is it a reasoned/compelling book?
Hopefully you know what I am getting at.
I read it in 2 days, so I didn't put it down much. There is religion in it. Not sure if she has an affiliation or not. I wasn't offended, though.
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Lidane Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:03:42pm |
re: #67 _RememberTonyC
appropriate or not?
Non-story. He's simply following custom.
Personally, I think the bigger story in the LA Times, at least politically, is that Utah, of all places, is now a GOP purity battleground:
[Link: www.latimes.com...]
Utah's a state where a Democrat hasn't been elected governor in over 30 years, or to the Senate in something like 40 years. WHY would anyone want to fight an ideological purity battle in a state like that?
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TheMatrix31 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:04:13pm |
re: #76 bratwurst
Apparently everything must be a sign of ODS. Jeez.
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bratwurst Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:05:53pm |
re: #90 TheMatrix31
Apparently everything must be a sign of ODS. Jeez.
Criticize something substantive, not the observance of polite behavior while abroad.
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TheMatrix31 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:06:57pm |
re: #91 bratwurst
I do. And that comment was a general one, not directed to the bowing. Who gives a shit about the bowing.
But jeez, it's almost like if I choose Pepsi over Coke, it's a sign of ODS. Fucking bullshit.
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The Sanity Inspector Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:07:26pm |
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:10:14pm |
re: #76 bratwurst
The anti-bowing meme is a symptom of ODS.
really?...petty judgmental there...ding me down too, what the hell...do it, I don't give a shit...you use dings to criticize instead of words
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Irenicum Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:10:38pm |
You all know what this means don't you? Obama is sekritly Japanese!
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Joo-LiZ Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:11:21pm |
Has anyone read VDH's book, "Between War and Peace"? It is an older book from 2004ish, and I'm curious if it still is relevant today or if there is a more updated book-form VDH book that can be used to explain the current situation in the Middle East.
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Dr. Shalit Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:13:00pm |
re: #7 _RememberTonyC
I'm reminded of Dan Aykroyd and Steve Martin on SNL in the late 1970's ...
We are two wild and crazy guys!
RTC -
Could WELL be the inspiration for the "Wild and Crazy Guys!" Perhaps we should "Czech" it out. That is all.
-S-
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MandyManners Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:13:07pm |
re: #92 TheMatrix31
I do. And that comment was a general one, not directed to the bowing. Who gives a shit about the bowing.
But jeez, it's almost like if I choose Pepsi over Coke, it's a sign of ODS. Fucking bullshit.
You got a problem with Dr Pepper, dude?
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TheMatrix31 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:13:33pm |
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bratwurst Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:13:42pm |
re: #92 TheMatrix31
I do. And that comment was a general one, not directed to the bowing. Who gives a shit about the bowing.
But jeez, it's almost like if I choose Pepsi over Coke, it's a sign of ODS. Fucking bullshit.
Here is the "Bush Bows" collection, courtesy of Google:
[Link: images.google.com...]
As I mentioned, feel free to criticize the President of the United States on something real, just don't sign on to the nontroversy du jour.
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wrenchwench Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:13:51pm |
re: #89 Lidane
Non-story. He's simply following custom.
Personally, I think the bigger story in the LA Times, at least politically, is that Utah, of all places, is now a GOP purity battleground:
[Link: www.latimes.com...]
Utah's a state where a Democrat hasn't been elected governor in over 30 years, or to the Senate in something like 40 years. WHY would anyone want to fight an ideological purity battle in a state like that?
The Club for Shrinkage and the tea partiers are going to have to learn the lesson of NY23 in every state in the Union before they go away. Actually, I don't think they learned anything in New York. They think they just have to work harder.
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:15:15pm |
re: #91 bratwurst
Criticize something substantive, not the observance of polite behavior while abroad.
stop with the bullshit...he asked a question and you know it
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The Sanity Inspector Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:16:11pm |
re: #96 Joo-LiZ
Has anyone read VDH's book, "Between War and Peace"? It is an older book from 2004ish, and I'm curious if it still is relevant today or if there is a more updated book-form VDH book that can be used to explain the current situation in the Middle East.
If it is a collection of his columns, much of it has probably been overtaken by events. If it's a "real" book of bigthink, it's probably worth a read. I recommend reading some of Walter Lacquer's long essays on the middle east, too. They're available on the web, or in whatever periodical index you may have access to.
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TheMatrix31 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:16:22pm |
re: #100 bratwurst
And like I said, I didn't and don't give a fuck about either President bowing, because I know it's nothing. Where the hell did I say anything otherwise? Stop putting words in my mouth. Jeez.
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:16:46pm |
re: #100 bratwurst
Here is the "Bush Bows" collection, courtesy of Google:
[Link: images.google.com...]
As I mentioned, feel free to criticize the President of the United States on something real, just don't sign on to the nontroversy du jour.
fuck off with telling people what to think or post...you are exactly nobody
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The Sanity Inspector Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:18:02pm |
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tradewind Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:19:20pm |
re: #67 _RememberTonyC
I couldn't care less whether or not he follows local custom and bows to a foreign leader.
It's the bending over he asks us to do that bothers me.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:19:22pm |
re: #107 The Sanity Inspector
Or RC Cola, communist?
[Video]
RC and moonpies. Embrace your inner redneck.
/
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MandyManners Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:20:49pm |
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tradewind Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:21:30pm |
re: #109 Cannadian Club Akbar
If you're gonna do it, do it right: That'd be an R- Oh- C Co-Cola with the moonpie.///
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bratwurst Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:25:32pm |
re: #106 albusteve
fuck off with telling people what to think or post...you are exactly nobody
Folks can think or post as they like. As you have said yourself, I call them as I see them.
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Lidane Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:26:29pm |
re: #99 TheMatrix31
I'm a Dr. Pepperemacist.
/shhh
So am I, but only if we're talking about Dublin Dr. Pepper:
[Link: www.dublindrpepper.com...]
:)
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TheMatrix31 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:27:17pm |
re: #113 bratwurst
Then you might wanna go get your eyes checked.
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psyop Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:28:15pm |
My 3 year old daughter thinks that this video is one of the best things she has ever seen...
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:28:45pm |
re: #114 Lidane
So am I, but only if we're talking about Dublin Dr. Pepper:
[Link: www.dublindrpepper.com...]
:)
This is the only real Dr. Pepper.
[Link: www.drinksmixer.com...]
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ausador Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:30:20pm |
Let me just say, Gross!
Body parts sold to kebab stand, police say
MOSCOW - Russian police have arrested three homeless people suspected of eating a 25-year-old man they had butchered and selling other bits of the corpse to a local kebab house.
Suspicions were raised when dismembered parts of a human body were found near a bus stop in the outskirts of the Russian city of Perm, 720 miles east of Moscow.
Three homeless men with previous criminal records have been arrested on suspicion of setting upon a foe with knives and a hammer before chopping up his corpse to eat, local investigators said in a statement.
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:30:33pm |
re: #113 bratwurst
Folks can think or post as they like. As you have said yourself, I call them as I see them.
then your vision is as poor as your judgment...and backpeddling is unseemly imo
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:31:11pm |
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Dr. Shalit Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:31:50pm |
re: #101 wrenchwench
The Club for Shrinkage and the tea partiers are going to have to learn the lesson of NY23 in every state in the Union before they go away. Actually, I don't think they learned anything in New York. They think they just have to work harder.
wrenchwench -
NY 23 is still being counted, the results there not as yet certified, Hoffman might yet pull it out. That aside, I find the idea of a "Center Right" Candidate running against a "Center Left" candidate for "Congresscritter" refreshing.
Had I more money, I would consider doing it myself against my Congressman,Frank Pallone, a very personable, decent guy who I count as a "Friendly Acquaintance" along with other members of his family and disagree with often on the issues. I have voted for and against him depending on the "plausibility" of his opponent.
In NY 23 - Hoffman IS Plausible if not charismatic. Time will tell.
-S-
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:31:51pm |
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Lidane Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:32:03pm |
re: #118 Cannadian Club Akbar
This is the only real Dr. Pepper.
[Link: www.drinksmixer.com...]
Those are good, but I haven't had one in ages. Very few bars serve them anymore because they don't want to chance any potential lawsuits. =/
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Lidane Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:33:30pm |
re: #116 TheMatrix31
That sounds DELICIOUS.
Oh, it is. Very smooth.
Beats the pants off the mass market Dr. Pepper by a mile, IMO.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:33:33pm |
re: #124 Lidane
Those are good, but I haven't had one in ages. Very few bars serve them anymore because they don't want to chance any potential lawsuits. =/
Ever had an Irish Car Bomb? Irish whiskey shot dropped in a half a draft. They will get you there.
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psyop Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:34:41pm |
Star Wars on the Mighty Wurlitzer Theater Organ!!!
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talon_262 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:35:42pm |
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:38:39pm |
re: #127 psyop
Star Wars on the Mighty Wurlitzer Theater Organ!!!
what a gorgeous instrument...4 keyboards, buttons, and valves and footpedals..and the sound!
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ryannon Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:39:02pm |
re: #114 Lidane
So am I, but only if we're talking about Dublin Dr. Pepper:
[Link: www.dublindrpepper.com...]
:)
Super, unbelievably cool find!
I'm ordering a case of bottled cane sugar-sweetened Dr. Pepper as a surprise gift for friends in California.
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tradewind Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:39:21pm |
re: #119 ausador
Why the eff did you have to Just Say?
I'm about to start fixin' the barefoot contessa's filet de boeuf bourguignonne for six , and thanks to this, it is sounding... well... gross.
///
Gonna take some brain bleach...:)
Ya'll have a good night.
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Lidane Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:39:31pm |
re: #126 Cannadian Club Akbar
Ever had an Irish Car Bomb? Irish whiskey shot dropped in a half a draft. They will get you there.
Yeesh.
With my tolerance, one of those would probably do it. Maybe two. My luck with whiskey has never been all that good. Still, I may give that a try the next time I go out, just to say I've had one.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:39:44pm |
re: #129 albusteve
what a gorgeous instrument...4 keyboards, buttons, and valves and footpedals..and the sound!
We have a pizza place near my house that has one. The place is always packed.
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Ministry of Fairness and Balance Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:39:46pm |
re: #127 psyop
Star Wars on the Mighty Wurlitzer Theater Organ!!!
I once saw a screening of "Mwtropolis" with live accompaniment by a pipe organ in Bloomington, Indiana. It was truly astounding.
Compared to some of the critters that probably wind up in those Russian shashlik stands, a bit of human is nothing to get worked up about...
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Lidane Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:41:31pm |
re: #130 ryannon
Super, unbelievably cool find!
Heh. They sell it in grocery stores here in Austin. It's not that hard for me to find. I just figured I could share the goodness that is Dublin Dr. Pepper with others. :)
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Dr. Shalit Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:41:38pm |
re: #124 Lidane
Those are good, but I haven't had one in ages. Very few bars serve them anymore because they don't want to chance any potential lawsuits. =/
Lidane -
Wouldn't a more classic "Depth Charge" - Like a Jack into a Sam - with soft drink to taste (make mine Cola) be easier? Just wondering?
-S-
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The Hoopster Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:41:53pm |
re: #134 ralphieboy
I once saw a screening of "Mwtropolis" with live accompaniment by a pipe organ in Bloomington, Indiana. It was truly astounding.
Compared to some of the critters that probably wind up in those Russian shashlik stands, a bit of human is nothing to get worked up about...
Bloomington, Indiana?
Cheers!
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:43:52pm |
re: #133 Cannadian Club Akbar
We have a pizza place near my house that has one. The place is always packed.
there is an antique one in my home town, Kalamazoo, in the art deco State Theater...it rises out of the floor and gets played every year at Halloween...the Phantom of the Opera song etc...it's been played for entire silent movies etc...pretty cool
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spinmore Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:44:02pm |
re: #137 HoosierHoops
You mean like the home of "Campus Autos" to be re-named "Cutter Cars"?
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Dr. Shalit Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:44:03pm |
re: #128 talon_262
Who knew Russians liked long pig?
///
talon_262 -
See - Battle of Leningrad, WW II. When it gets bad enough ("Badenov?") stuff happens. A sidelight to the "Great Patriotic War" best forgotten.
-S-
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psyop Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:44:18pm |
re: #129 albusteve
what a gorgeous instrument...4 keyboards, buttons, and valves and footpedals..and the sound!
It really is awesome. Hopefully, it will never die.
If anyone here has never had the opportunity to see a real pipe organ played live, it must be one thing you strive to do in your life. It is truly amazing.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:44:54pm |
re: #138 albusteve
Ever heard of Vicksburg? My aunt lived there.
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Lidane Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:45:09pm |
re: #136 Dr. Shalit
Lidane -
Wouldn't a more classic "Depth Charge" - Like a Jack into a Sam - with soft drink to taste (make mine Cola) be easier? Just wondering?
-S-
Dunno. I don't think I've ever tried a Depth Charge, or if I have, I don't remember it. Heh.
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:46:44pm |
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The Hoopster Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:47:34pm |
re: #139 spinmore
You mean like the home of "Campus Autos" to be re-named "Cutter Cars"?
You must be referring to the movie Breaking away...I saw it once...
I'm a California boy that transfered to Indiana for work...
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:47:54pm |
re: #143 Cannadian Club Akbar
Ever heard of Vicksburg? My aunt lived there.
yeah sure, my nephew has a place just down from the hospital...very nice little town...very Rockwellian
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Dr. Shalit Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:48:18pm |
re: #144 Lidane
Dunno. I don't think I've ever tried a Depth Charge, or if I have, I don't remember it. Heh.
Lidane -
"...Verry Drunk At The Time?..." - Pink Floyd, 1972
-S-
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:48:37pm |
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spinmore Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:50:14pm |
re: #146 HoosierHoops
You must be referring to the movie Breaking away...I saw it once...
I'm a California boy that transfered to Indiana for work...
You got it . . . classic movie for everybody on two wheels back in the late 70s early 80s . . . some funny stuff
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:51:04pm |
I hate running out of beer when football is on. Be back.
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MandyManners Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:51:20pm |
re: #132 Lidane
Yeesh.
With my tolerance, one of those would probably do it. Maybe two. My luck with whiskey has never been all that good. Still, I may give that a try the next time I go out, just to say I've had one.
I recommend Basil Hayden's. Straight, or I'll hunt you down and hurt you.
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MandyManners Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:52:06pm |
re: #152 Cannadian Club Akbar
I hate running out of beer when football is on. Be back.
Why hasn't someone figured out how to deliver it? Heck, if pizza can be delivered,...
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spinmore Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:53:01pm |
So how bout those Temple Owls . . .
whoda thunk it? . . . bowl game?
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Dr. Shalit Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:54:20pm |
re: #154 MandyManners
Why hasn't someone figured out how to deliver it? Heck, if pizza can be delivered,...
Mandy -
Problem IS - repeal of Prohibition left other Liquor Laws as Local Option. Delivery might be banned where you live.
-S-
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Ministry of Fairness and Balance Sat, Nov 14, 2009 2:57:49pm |
re: #151 spinmore
You got it . . . classic movie for everybody on two wheels back in the late 70s early 80s . . . some funny stuff
Grew up in Indiana, attended IU about the time they were filming Breaking Away, I used to chase trucks on my bike on that stretch of Route 45, just never caught one...
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Guanxi88 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:01:03pm |
re: #126 Cannadian Club Akbar
Ever had an Irish Car Bomb? Irish whiskey shot dropped in a half a draft. They will get you there.
Serbian Slammer:
Ingredients
1 Lime -
1 oz. Slivovitz
1/2 oz. Sambuca
Instructions
Pour the sambuca into a shot glass and add a twist of lime. Then add the Serbian moonshine.
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The Hoopster Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:02:04pm |
re: #155 spinmore
So how bout those Temple Owls . . .
whoda thunk it? . . . bowl game?
I tried for a scholarship at Temple in Philly for Coach Chaney after JUCO.
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spinmore Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:03:10pm |
re: #157 ralphieboy
Grew up in Indiana, attended IU about the time they were filming Breaking Away, I used to chase trucks on my bike on that stretch of Route 45, just never caught one...
Actually, that's one of the 'funny' parts . . . ever notice the rider's legs in that scene (not that I normally check out guys legs) compared to the scrawny kid in the movie? Clearly a 'stunt' double . . . I think the truck driver gets up to like 60mph - then he gets pulled over by a trooper (LOL)
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Guanxi88 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:03:31pm |
re: #158 Guanxi88
Serbian Slammer:
Ingredients
1 Lime -
1 oz. Slivovitz
1/2 oz. Sambuca
InstructionsPour the sambuca into a shot glass and add a twist of lime. Then add the Serbian moonshine.
Good enough to make you wanna boot your neighbors outta their apartment and take it over. (And folk wonder why the Yugo civil war was so bad? Everybody was drinking slivo)
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Lidane Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:03:38pm |
re: #153 MandyManners
I recommend Basil Hayden's.
Ooh. That sounds good, based on the reviews I've read.
Straight, or I'll hunt you down and hurt you.
I'll keep that in mind. :)
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Dr. Shalit Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:03:55pm |
re: #158 Guanxi88
Serbian Slammer:
Ingredients
1 Lime -
1 oz. Slivovitz
1/2 oz. Sambuca
InstructionsPour the sambuca into a shot glass and add a twist of lime. Then add the Serbian moonshine.
Guanxi88 -
What? No Garlic??
-S-
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Dr. Shalit Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:05:36pm |
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Guanxi88 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:06:30pm |
re: #165 Dr. Shalit
Guanxi88-
YES! - and the Buddy that taught me about this is Croatian!
-S-
See, the one common factor throughout the Balkans. Gotta have your silvo, gotta have your garlic, gotta have your 'baccy. Everything else will take care of itself.
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ausador Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:07:06pm |
Free cash Socialism gone wrong!
/
5,000 Parisians Find No Free Cash
A large, unruly crowd has forced an Internet site to cancel a promotional stunt to hand out tens of thousands of euros in cash in Paris.
The French Internet company Mailorama.fr had planned to throw envelopes of cash to passers-by from a bus stop near the Eiffel Tower.
About 5,000 people gathered on the Champs de Mars Saturday to await the handout, blocking traffic and leading to security fears.
Police say officers and Mailorama decided jointly to call off the stunt.
Stephane Boukris, head of marketing for Mailorama, said, "We wanted to ensure the safety of our staff and this is why the event was cancelled. We weren't up to dealing with all of this."
The organizers had planned a dozen security guards from a private company. Metal barriers installed were crossed by the crowd.
Some in the crowd were apparently angry about the cancellation, overturning a car and throwing projectiles at police. Ten people were arrested.
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Dr. Shalit Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:09:06pm |
re: #166 Guanxi88
Guanxi88 -
And the other buddy who taught me how to drink and hold my liquor boasts Northern Irish, Protestant ancestry - I see a trend here.
-S-
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Guanxi88 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:09:54pm |
re: #168 Dr. Shalit
Guanxi88 -
And the other buddy who taught me how to drink and hold my liquor boasts Northern Irish, Protestant ancestry - I see a trend here.
-S-
Ya can't have a proper civil war without hard liquor. Look at the US. If we didn't have whisky, the fighting would have been over in time for lunch on day one.
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Decatur Deb Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:10:27pm |
re: #122 Dr. Shalit
(snip)
Had I more money, I would consider doing it myself against my Congressman,Frank Pallone, a very personable, decent guy who I count as a "Friendly Acquaintance" along with other members of his family and disagree with often on the issues. I have voted for and against him depending on the "plausibility" of his opponent.
-
You disgust me by reducing politics to a rational struggle of competing
philosophies instead of bloodsport.
/req.
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Dr. Shalit Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:13:05pm |
re: #169 Guanxi88
Ya can't have a proper civil war without hard liquor. Look at the US. If we didn't have whisky, the fighting would have been over in time for lunch on day one.
Guanxi88-
Correct me if I am wrong - didn't THE Jack Daniels sell whiskey to both sides as a moonshiner, going legitimate after the "Late Unpleasantness?"
-S-
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Lidane Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:13:59pm |
re: #149 Dr. Shalit
"...Verry Drunk At The Time?..." - Pink Floyd, 1972
That about sums up my 20's and early 30's. Heh.
Going back to school to finish a degree has slowed me down considerably. If I get out twice a month, it's a miracle. OTOH, I'm graduating next month and am applying to grad school, so it's all good.
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Guanxi88 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:14:30pm |
re: #171 Dr. Shalit
Guanxi88-
Correct me if I am wrong - didn't THE Jack Daniels sell whiskey to both sides as a moonshiner, going legitimate after the "Late Unpleasantness?"
-S-
I'm not sure, but it would not surprise me one bit. Whisky, like salted beef, hardtack, and coffee, was essential to both sides in the dust-up.
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:16:50pm |
re: #173 Guanxi88
I'm not sure, but it would not surprise me one bit. Whisky, like salted beef, hardtack, and coffee, was essential to both sides in the dust-up.
no word about that at Wiki...he would have been very young to be selling whiskey at that time...a teenager
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Guanxi88 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:20:11pm |
re: #174 albusteve
no word about that at Wiki...he would have been very young to be selling whiskey at that time...a teenager
untrue but accurate, maybe? That seems to fly for a lot of people, so maybe I'll start spreading the story. Might get a free case from the distillery. Might.
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Dr. Shalit Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:21:13pm |
re: #170 Decatur Deb
You disgust me by reducing politics to a rational struggle of competing
philosophies instead of bloodsport./req.
Decatur Deb -
I have played it both ways in my life. I prefer issues - AND - have gone negative in the past as retaliation. Politics is NOT beanbag nor NEED it be bloodsport. Where it becomes bloodsport, be advised that I, the Grandson and Great-Nephew of Butchers can and will sharpen and use knives with the best of them.
-S-
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Dr. Shalit Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:23:08pm |
re: #174 albusteve
no word about that at Wiki...he would have been very young to be selling whiskey at that time...a teenager
albusteve -
He was a Teenager - as were some of the fallen of both Blue and Gray.
-S-
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Ojoe Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:26:43pm |
On the frontiers of music with a=some amazing wind controlled electronic instruments:
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Dr. Shalit Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:26:59pm |
re: #178 Racer X
Dood. Its not a bow!
RacerX -
"WWMcAD" - What would MacArthur Do? Just Wondering?
-S-
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Guanxi88 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:27:15pm |
Evidently, the Blue used to hand out "the whiskey ration" in cold weather, in wet weather, or whenever troops needed to recover their strength following a particularly heavy engagement, or whenever the officers felt a morale boost and/or celebration was in order.
Different times.
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Dr. Shalit Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:29:05pm |
re: #181 Guanxi88
Evidently, the Blue used to hand out "the whiskey ration" in cold weather, in wet weather, or whenever troops needed to recover their strength following a particularly heavy engagement, or whenever the officers felt a morale boost and/or celebration was in order.
Different times.
Guanxi88 -
In those Politically Incorrect Times, the UK Royal Navy (a/k/a "The Senior Service") still had a "Grog Ration" as well.
-S-
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Guanxi88 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:31:04pm |
re: #182 Dr. Shalit
Guanxi88 -
In those Politically Incorrect Times, the UK Royal Navy (a/k/a "The Senior Service") still had a "Grog Ration" as well.
-S-
And let's not forget the tobacco rations, which lasted well into modernity. I seem to recall that soldiers and others in the US service would get something like five or six cigarettes with each ration pack.
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:31:28pm |
re: #179 Ojoe
On the frontiers of music with a=some amazing wind controlled electronic instruments:
but can he play 'Louie Louie'?
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Dr. Shalit Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:32:59pm |
re: #183 Guanxi88
And let's not forget the tobacco rations, which lasted well into modernity. I seem to recall that soldiers and others in the US service would get something like five or six cigarettes with each ration pack.
Guanxi88 -
Cig Rations were still in effect during the earlier part of the Vietnam "Conflict."
Within the memory of men alive today.
-S-
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windupbird is in the gravity well Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:33:20pm |
re: #55 Cannadian Club Akbar
I liked "Shut up and Sing" by Laura Ingraham.
Yeah, I'm a fan of John Lennon and Laura Ingraham and her awful radio voice can eat a full bag, as they say.
Nothing pisses me off than some loudmouth bullshit pundit on AM radio telling artists they can't be political. AM radio talk is as much a blight as cable news is.
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Racer X Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:35:29pm |
re: #180 Dr. Shalit
RacerX -
"WWMcAD" - What would MacArthur Do? Just Wondering?
-S-
Kick ass and take names. OK he may not bother with the names.
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Racer X Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:37:02pm |
Different era, different thought process I guess.
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MandyManners Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:37:08pm |
Didn't BHO say that Hirohito signed the surrender?
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windupbird is in the gravity well Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:37:25pm |
re: #92 TheMatrix31
I do. And that comment was a general one, not directed to the bowing. Who gives a shit about the bowing.
But jeez, it's almost like if I choose Pepsi over Coke, it's a sign of ODS. Fucking bullshit.
Criticizing a sitting president for diplomatically observing foreign customs is actual real live total unadulterated bullshit. Bullshit during Bush (witness people going bonkers about Bush holding hands with Prince Abdullah) and it is bullshit now. Be an adult, for fuck's sake.
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Dr. Shalit Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:37:28pm |
re: #187 Racer X
Kick ass and take names. OK he may not bother with the names.
Racer X -
Mac Arthur HAD and only NEEDED one name to keep Occupied Japan in line. The name was HIROHITO. The rest is history.
-S-
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MandyManners Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:38:22pm |
Oh, and his uncle helped liberate Auschwitz.
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webevintage Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:39:21pm |
Little work break to let the classic film lovers out there know that TCM is showing a doc, 1939: Hollywood's Greatest Year, now.
5:30 central in case you are lacking in viewing enjoyment...
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Decatur Deb Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:39:52pm |
re: #182 Dr. Shalit
Guanxi88 -
In those Politically Incorrect Times, the UK Royal Navy (a/k/a "The Senior Service") still had a "Grog Ration" as well.
-S-
Rum, Sodomy, and the Lash.
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Guanxi88 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:41:02pm |
re: #185 Dr. Shalit
Guanxi88 -
Cig Rations were still in effect during the earlier part of the Vietnam "Conflict."
Within the memory of men alive today.-S-
There are still kind hearts here stateside (I help them when I can) who ship tobacco to troops overseas. Seems that chewing snuff (copenhagen, in particular) is tremendously popular for the men, and, form the few I've spoken with who've been there, a real comfort when you're up all night and scared half out of your wits. Safer (for them there) than making a fire and smoking.
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Guanxi88 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:41:23pm |
re: #194 Decatur Deb
Rum, Sodomy, and the Lash.
Ahh,. churchill's recitation of naval tradition. A classic.
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windupbird is in the gravity well Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:42:01pm |
re: #106 albusteve
fuck off with telling people what to think or post...you are exactly nobody
He said a stupid thing, he got smacked down!
I actually feel the opposite: I don't want to tell people what to think or post, I'd rather their idiocy be flown through the skies on a banner attached to a biplane. Everyone should be aware of the dumbassery!
Any wigging out about Obama BOWING is so ODS it hurts. Its Okay If You're A Republican!
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:42:06pm |
re: #187 Racer X
Kick ass and take names. OK he may not bother with the names.
Mac couldn't get out of his own way...his contribution to WW2 is about as little as any general at the time...what did he do?...most strategists wanted to leave the Philippines to die on the vine...but no...Backtrack Mac
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Decatur Deb Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:42:41pm |
re: #196 Guanxi88
They told me it was the Republican platform.
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:43:23pm |
re: #190 WindUpBird
Criticizing a sitting president for diplomatically observing foreign customs is actual real live total unadulterated bullshit. Bullshit during Bush (witness people going bonkers about Bush holding hands with Prince Abdullah) and it is bullshit now. Be an adult, for fuck's sake.
so what?...you guys get too carried away...BO has bad hair
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Bloodnok Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:43:34pm |
re: #197 WindUpBird
He said a stupid thing, he got smacked down!
I actually feel the opposite: I don't want to tell people what to think or post, I'd rather their idiocy be flown through the skies on a banner attached to a biplane. Everyone should be aware of the dumbassery!
Any wigging out about Obama BOWING is so ODS it hurts. Its Okay If You're A Republican!
He didn't wig out. He asked what people thought about it.
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:44:19pm |
re: #197 WindUpBird
He said a stupid thing, he got smacked down!
I actually feel the opposite: I don't want to tell people what to think or post, I'd rather their idiocy be flown through the skies on a banner attached to a biplane. Everyone should be aware of the dumbassery!
Any wigging out about Obama BOWING is so ODS it hurts. Its Okay If You're A Republican!
who said a stupid thing?...what are you referring to?
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Guanxi88 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:45:10pm |
re: #199 Decatur Deb
They told me it was the Republican platform.
Could you imagine, though?
My favorite was "Rum, Romanism, and Rebellion" as in:
"We are Republicans, and don't propose to leave our party and identify ourselves with the party whose antecedents have been rum, Romanism, and rebellion. We are loyal to our flag."
What Burchard did, by reciting this triplet, was to saddle the Democrats with being on the wrong side of three of the most sensitive issues of the times:
* Prohibition --- a controversy which the Women's Christian Temperance Union and others had brought to fever pitch;
* Catholicism --- a feared minority of the time (all actions were considered as coming from Rome), and
* The Civil War --- which had but twenty years before, been brought to its bloody end, leaving in its wake no end of bitterness on both sides.
What times! Back then, even calumny from low fellows had a certain grace lacking in today's world. I don't mind a well-turned phrase, even if it's slanderous. But stupid slander and illiterate disputes irritate the hell outta me.
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Dr. Shalit Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:46:31pm |
re: #189 MandyManners
Didn't BHO say that Hirohito signed the surrender?
Mandy -
Hirohito DID NOT sign the surrender, as Emperor, such an act was beneath his dignity. If I remember correctly, the prime Japanese signatory was FM Shigimetsu. A third character, Prince Konoye (Hirohito's Cousin) was swept up in the Post War dragnet, and because of bad information killed himself in prison - Gen. MacArthur wanted him to be "Head Rat" in lieu of Hirohito. Konoye was told he would be the "fall-guy." A long story, for another time.
-S-
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windupbird is in the gravity well Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:46:34pm |
re: #201 Bloodnok
He didn't wig out. He asked what people thought about it.
In a somewhat concernsey trollsey fashion, yes.
"Hey, this entirely trivial completely insignificant bit of diplomatic pageantry that every president forever has done! Suddenly important because Obama!"
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Guanxi88 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:46:57pm |
re: #204 Sharmuta
What the hell was with that loud plaid blazer?
I dunno, I thought it looked kinda nice, in a tripped-out Warsaw Pact on coke and 'ludes, kinda way.
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Lidane Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:47:06pm |
re: #194 Decatur Deb
Rum, Sodomy, and the Lash.
Great album. Probably my favorite by The Pogues along with If I Should Fall From Grace with God.
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MandyManners Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:47:59pm |
re: #197 WindUpBird
He said a stupid thing, he got smacked down!
I actually feel the opposite: I don't want to tell people what to think or post, I'd rather their idiocy be flown through the skies on a banner attached to a biplane. Everyone should be aware of the dumbassery!
Any wigging out about Obama BOWING is so ODS it hurts. Its Okay If You're A Republican!
Bullshit. He asked a question.
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MandyManners Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:48:57pm |
re: #205 Dr. Shalit
Mandy -
Hirohito DID NOT sign the surrender, as Emperor, such an act was beneath his dignity. If I remember correctly, the prime Japanese signatory was FM Shigimetsu. A third character, Prince Konoye (Hirohito's Cousin) was swept up in the Post War dragnet, and because of bad information killed himself in prison - Gen. MacArthur wanted him to be "Head Rat" in lieu of Hirohito. Konoye was told he would be the "fall-guy." A long story, for another time.
-S-
But, BHO said he did.
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Decatur Deb Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:49:17pm |
re: #208 Lidane
Great album. Probably my favorite by The Pogues along with If I Should Fall From Grace with God.
Prodigals man here, but they have no quality clips on Youtube.
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:49:28pm |
re: #206 WindUpBird
In a somewhat concernsey trollsey fashion, yes.
"Hey, this entirely trivial completely insignificant bit of diplomatic pageantry that every president forever has done! Suddenly important because Obama!"
wtf are you blabbing about?...I'm starting to thing you two noobs owe TonyC an apology...can you even read?
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Guanxi88 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:49:31pm |
re: #205 Dr. Shalit
Mandy -
Hirohito DID NOT sign the surrender, as Emperor, such an act was beneath his dignity. If I remember correctly, the prime Japanese signatory was FM Shigimetsu. A third character, Prince Konoye (Hirohito's Cousin) was swept up in the Post War dragnet, and because of bad information killed himself in prison - Gen. MacArthur wanted him to be "Head Rat" in lieu of Hirohito. Konoye was told he would be the "fall-guy." A long story, for another time.
-S-
re: #210 MandyManners
But, BHO said he did.
History was never BHO's strong suit. Oratory, though...
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Sharmuta Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:49:43pm |
re: #207 Guanxi88
I dunno, I thought it looked kinda nice, in a tripped-out Warsaw Pact on coke and 'ludes, kinda way.
I was hanging with Monet today, so it's a bit jarring to the system.
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Bloodnok Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:50:18pm |
re: #206 WindUpBird
In a somewhat concernsey trollsey fashion, yes.
"Hey, this entirely trivial completely insignificant bit of diplomatic pageantry that every president forever has done! Suddenly important because Obama!"
Good grief. Okay. It Is Because You Say It Is. We get it.
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Guanxi88 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:50:31pm |
re: #215 Sharmuta
I was hanging with Monet today, so it's a bit jarring to the system.
Well there's your problem right there. Red wine'll do it every time.
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Lidane Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:50:54pm |
re: #205 Dr. Shalit
Mandy -
Hirohito DID NOT sign the surrender, as Emperor, such an act was beneath his dignity.
True. But he *did* record a formal statement of surrender that was played on Japanese radio. It was the first time many Japanese had ever heard him speak.
It's possible that's what President Obama was referring to, only he goofed and said that Hirohito signed the statement of surrender.
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Dr. Shalit Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:50:55pm |
re: #195 Guanxi88
There are still kind hearts here stateside (I help them when I can) who ship tobacco to troops overseas. Seems that chewing snuff (copenhagen, in particular) is tremendously popular for the men, and, form the few I've spoken with who've been there, a real comfort when you're up all night and scared half out of your wits. Safer (for them there) than making a fire and smoking.
Guanxi88 -
I have given for overseas packages - if they contain tobacco and/or alcohol, so much the better - anything we send our guys/gals is well deserved.
-S-
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Decatur Deb Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:51:16pm |
re: #205 Dr. Shalit
True or not, it is said that no word like "surrender" appears in the Japanese
instrument.
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Sharmuta Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:51:22pm |
re: #217 Guanxi88
Well there's your problem right there. Red wine'll do it every time.
Yes- but it looks like I got back just in time. Pass the popcorn.
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MandyManners Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:51:39pm |
re: #206 WindUpBird
In a somewhat concernsey trollsey fashion, yes.
"Hey, this entirely trivial completely insignificant bit of diplomatic pageantry that every president forever has done! Suddenly important because Obama!"
You dare to call RTC a "troll"?
Registered since: Sep 27, 2009 at 12:08 pm
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Guanxi88 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:52:07pm |
re: #222 Sharmuta
Yes- but it looks like I got back just in time. Pass the popcorn.
Gonna need a beer with your popcorn. It's always amusing to see new guys accuse veterans of trollery. Good fun, indeed.
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spinmore Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:52:13pm |
re: #213 Guanxi88
I don't find his 'oratory' very impressive. but whata I know?
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Dr. Shalit Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:52:14pm |
re: #210 MandyManners
But, BHO said he did.
MandyManners -
I SHALL be Polite - The President is Mistaken. That is all.
-S-
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Guanxi88 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:52:44pm |
re: #225 spinmore
I don't find his 'oratory' very impressive. but whata I know?
So do I. I've said many times that if I needed a speech given, I'd want him to give it.
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:53:41pm |
fucking two month noob comes in here and calls TonyC a troll. who ain't even here...that's just fucking rude
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spinmore Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:53:57pm |
re: #228 Guanxi88
So do I. I've said many times that if I needed a speech given, I'd want him to give it.
Yeah . . . but I said DON'T (sorry)
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Guanxi88 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:54:27pm |
re: #229 albusteve
fucking two month noob comes in here and calls TonyC a troll. who ain't even here...that's just fucking rude
Well, that's just what an obvious sock-puppet like you or I would say, isn't it?
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Racer X Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:54:54pm |
This one is from Tony to the noobs.
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Guanxi88 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:55:07pm |
re: #230 spinmore
Yeah . . . but I said DON'T (sorry)
And I mean what I said, too. If I had a speech that I wanted given, I'd want him to give it.
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Sharmuta Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:57:55pm |
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:58:24pm |
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Guanxi88 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:58:26pm |
re: #234 Guanxi88
And I mean what I said, too. If I had a speech that I wanted given, I'd want him to give it.
If he pulls it off, then I'm home clear - if things get a bit rocky, I can blame the opposition on ODS, racism, and Beck. It's win-win for any bunk salesman.
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Racer X Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:58:30pm |
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Guanxi88 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:59:18pm |
re: #239 Racer X
Jersey. I think.
Crossroads of global commerce, vast warehouse of the industrial world.
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freetoken Sat, Nov 14, 2009 3:59:42pm |
re: #180 Dr. Shalit
RacerX -
"WWMcAD" - What would MacArthur Do? Just Wondering?
-S-
MacArthur was a military dictator of the country. We left that with the treaty of San Francisco.
What Obama is doing is a simple 頭を下げる , rather poorly executed (he should not be shaking hands) but that is to be expected unless one is experienced at such matters. When in Japan I often would moderately 頭を下げる to those older than myself.
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Guanxi88 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:00:10pm |
re: #241 freetoken
MacArthur was a military dictator of the country. We left that with the treaty of San Francisco.
What Obama is doing is a simple 頭を下げる , rather poorly executed (he should not be shaking hands) but that is to be expected unless one is experienced at such matters. When in Japan I often would moderately 頭を下げる to those older than myself.
Show off!
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Dr. Shalit Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:02:50pm |
re: #221 Decatur Deb
True or not, it is said that no word like "surrender" appears in the Japanese
instrument.
Decatur Deb -
I tend to believe that. Much of the immediate Post War relationship between the US and Japan had an air of "Kabuki" about it. For instance, the document recognized the position of Emperor and the Japanese Royal Family, it did not Guarantee the position to Hirohito, Hirohito earned it by his cooperation. Bet the Japanese translation was more like "Armistice" or "Cease-Fire."
It was a spoonful of Sugar that let the Medicine go down, probably saving millions of American, British Empire and Japanese lives in the process.
-S-
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Sharmuta Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:03:18pm |
re: #20 Joo-LiZ
Now, I'm left with the task of finding a book that does a good job of presenting the world from a conservative view-point at a level that someone not-so-involved will be able to grasp.
How about The Conscience of a Conservative?
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Dr. Shalit Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:05:43pm |
re: #240 Guanxi88
Crossroads of global commerce, vast warehouse of the industrial world.
Guanxi88 -
And as Broke or Moreso than California. Bad Policy has its consequences.
-S-
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freetoken Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:06:09pm |
The Harpy herself has posted the video on Youtube:
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Bloodnok Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:06:14pm |
re: #218 albusteve
trollsy?...fuck off noob
I think the only trolling going on was in WuB's posts. "Let's see if I can rile up the right wingers by claiming ODS where there was none."
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Decatur Deb Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:08:57pm |
re: #247 freetoken
The Harpy herself has posted the video on Youtube:
Looks like he's just returning some scrap metal he found as a boy.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:09:22pm |
I hate it when I have to cut out and come back and miss a good ol' throwdown.
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:10:43pm |
re: #248 Bloodnok
I think the only trolling going on was in WuB's posts. "Let's see if I can rile up the right wingers by claiming ODS where there was none."
pisses me off...you just don't do that shit...but I'm all jolly again
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Guanxi88 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:11:14pm |
re: #248 Bloodnok
I think the only trolling going on was in WuB's posts. "Let's see if I can rile up the right wingers by claiming ODS where there was none."
Come now, surely you have learned that any invocation or use of The Name that is not made in tones suitably awe-struck and grateful, any mention of any action, statement, or policy pronouncement of the Male Palin that does not include praises of his mighty works and hopes for his complete and total triumph over the deranged bigots who stand arrayed against him is prima facie evidence of ODS?
Similarly, any concern or criticism of any aspect of He Who Condescended to Lead us from Darkness into the Light is Beckhist nontroversy at best.
I mean, where have you been the past year? It's not that hard to understand.
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Guanxi88 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:13:40pm |
re: #254 Guanxi88
Do not criticize the Male Palin.
He who is all things of which Palin is accused, and who is better at being Sarah Palin than Sarah Palin is, shall not be mocked as an empty suit.
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:16:14pm |
nobody digs the Stones but me...I am an army of one
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Guanxi88 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:17:02pm |
re: #256 albusteve
nobody digs the Stones but me...I am an army of one
I thought the Stones were a perennial favorite, on a par with oxygen, appreciation for which goes without saying. We're all guilty of taking them for granted, though.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:19:05pm |
re: #256 albusteve
nobody digs the Stones but me...I am an army of one
I like the Stones. I saw them and even camped out for tix years ago. Funny, you see people in crappy cars smoking weed at the show and right next to them is someone in a 7 series BMW smoking too. Heh.
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Bloodnok Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:19:15pm |
re: #256 albusteve
nobody digs the Stones but me...I am an army of one
I wouldn't say that at all. I'm a Beatles man through and through, but I loves me some Stones.
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Dr. Shalit Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:19:48pm |
re: #252 albusteve
albusteve -
Very Good - and to me even better - The 2003 HBO concert of +/- Jan. 8.
Have an original VHS (The ONLY Cost Effective Download at that time) and knockoff DVD's and Audio CD's. 250 line is 250 line as far as video. VHS HiFi is/was more or less CD Quality. I play that one in the car, sometimes playing "Guess Where?, Guess When?" games.
-S-
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:20:18pm |
re: #258 Cannadian Club Akbar
I like the Stones. I saw them and even camped out for tix years ago. Funny, you see people in crappy cars smoking weed at the show and right next to them is someone in a 7 series BMW smoking too. Heh.
you need to be a high pro millionaire to get a backstage pass at their gigs...I know people that have
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Decatur Deb Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:21:23pm |
re: #256 albusteve
nobody digs the Stones but me...I am an army of one
Blarney Stones?
[Link: vids.myspace.com...]
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:22:15pm |
re: #261 albusteve
Hey, I wanna talk to you about the medical field (as per a post you made the other day) but at a later time. Cool?
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:24:37pm |
re: #260 Dr. Shalit
albusteve -
Very Good - and to me even better - The 2003 HBO concert of +/- Jan. 8.
Have an original VHS (The ONLY Cost Effective Download at that time) and knockoff DVD's and Audio CD's. 250 line is 250 line as far as video. VHS HiFi is/was more or less CD Quality. I play that one in the car, sometimes playing "Guess Where?, Guess When?" games.-S-
that vid was from '72, the year Exile was released...super poor audio, but they were never better than at that time...when I first heard Tumblin Dice I was flat out blown away...the version on Rarities is the best ever...starts out a capella (with piano) for the entire first verse and bridge then smashes into the second with a wall of sound...I digress
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:25:55pm |
re: #259 Bloodnok
I wouldn't say that at all. I'm a Beatles man through and through, but I loves me some Stones.
ahhh!...Brian Jones...thanks for that...they were so far ahead of their time it's ridiculous
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:26:41pm |
re: #263 Cannadian Club Akbar
Hey, I wanna talk to you about the medical field (as per a post you made the other day) but at a later time. Cool?
anytime...but I can't think of how I'd be any help
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webevintage Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:28:38pm |
re: #208 Lidane
Great album. Probably my favorite by The Pogues along with If I Should Fall From Grace with God.
Best Christmas song evah!
Video with a young Matt Dillon in at and the great Kirsty McColl, God rest her soul.
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Dr. Shalit Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:29:02pm |
re: #264 albusteve
albusteve -
The Stones were great that night in 2003. If/when HBO does a repeat, I will make a DVD and ...
-S-
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The Sanity Inspector Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:31:43pm |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:31:47pm |
re: #266 albusteve
anytime...but I can't think of how I'd be any help
Actually, what to one person is common knowledge to another is a question just needing a simple answer. I'll hit ya up on a slow morning thread. Thanks.
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:33:02pm |
re: #268 Dr. Shalit
albusteve -
The Stones were great that night in 2003. If/when HBO does a repeat, I will make a DVD and ...
-S-
they still put on a great show...too bad they can't play smaller venues...can you imagine stumbling onto them in a shabby little club in Toronto?...it's happened...you drop in to see Ace and the Diamonds or whoever for $8, the management seems kinda stiff...something is abuzz, then out comes Kieth Richards, Charlie Watts etc...yowza!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:33:12pm |
When I saw the Stones, Van Halen opened for them. The only duo concert that was close was Ted Nugent opening for Aerosmith.
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Sharmuta Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:34:31pm |
When I saw the Stones, some lady had brought her kid and was complaining about someone around us smoking a joint. I really don't know what she was thinking bringing her kid. Oh- and it wasn't me smoking.
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Cato the Elder Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:34:36pm |
Just got around to viewing this. I'm enchanted. Especially with the guy on the right, who has one of the lowest brows I've ever seen.
The tune is actually catchier than many by groups like "Herman's Hermits"...
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:34:39pm |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:35:33pm |
re: #274 Sharmuta
When I saw the Stones, some lady had brought her kid and was complaining about someone around us smoking a joint. I really don't know what she was thinking bringing her kid. Oh- and it wasn't me smoking.
Well if your not gonna bring some weed, ya better have gas money.
//
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Dr. Shalit Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:35:54pm |
re: #271 albusteve
they still put on a great show...too bad they can't play smaller venues...can you imagine stumbling onto them in a shabby little club in Toronto?...it's happened...you drop in to see Ace and the Diamonds or whoever for $8, the management seems kinda stiff...something is abuzz, then out comes Kieth Richards, Charlie Watts etc...yowza!
albusteve -
Living barely further than "spitting distance" from the Stone Pony, I get your point.
-S-
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:36:46pm |
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Irenicum Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:36:49pm |
re: #276 Cannadian Club Akbar
Good question. I suspect he will.
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Irenicum Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:37:31pm |
re: #275 Cato the Elder
I can't stop watching it. It's strangely compelling.
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:40:36pm |
a Stones gig is just a monster event...for diehard fans it just blows you away
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Cato the Elder Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:41:12pm |
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Bloodnok Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:42:16pm |
re: #282 Irenicum
And here they are on speed.
[Video]
Yet Mladek still does not move even at double the speed.
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Dr. Shalit Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:42:24pm |
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Irenicum Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:43:12pm |
re: #284 Cato the Elder
That is terrible! And I can't stop laughing.
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MandyManners Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:44:52pm |
re: #233 Racer X
This one is from Tony to the noobs.
I'm glad I pressed his tummy 'cause I thought he was so cute that I was gonna' send it to The Kid.
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Sharmuta Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:45:39pm |
re: #288 MandyManners
I'm glad I pressed his tummy 'cause I thought he was so cute that I was gonna' send it to The Kid.
I bet The Kid would have loved it, though.
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:45:40pm |
thanks for all the Stones fans chipping in...we are not all soulless, black hearted heathens like they are...
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MandyManners Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:45:46pm |
re: #235 Guanxi88
She's reaching for her cluebat.
My ladle. I was finishing up a pot of home-made vegetable soup.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:46:22pm |
re: #288 MandyManners
I'm glad I pressed his tummy 'cause I thought he was so cute that I was gonna' send it to The Kid.
I pressed his tummy and thought of you. Weird.
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:46:26pm |
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Dr. Shalit Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:47:49pm |
re: #292 Cannadian Club Akbar
I pressed his tummy and thought of you. Weird.
/
CC Akbar -
Somehow I thought of Robert DeNiro in "Analyze This." Silly me.
-S-
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MandyManners Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:49:40pm |
re: #289 Sharmuta
I bet The Kid would have loved it, though.
He said something "sucks" the other day. I unleashed a 50-gallon drum of whoop-ass on him.
That reminds me. In the car on the ride home after today's game, he asked, "Mom, what's a 'motherfucker'?" After I got the car out of the emergency lane, I asked him where he heard it. He said some kid on the other team called him that.
Those kids are either nine or 10.
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MandyManners Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:50:57pm |
re: #241 freetoken
MacArthur was a military dictator of the country. We left that with the treaty of San Francisco.
What Obama is doing is a simple 頭を下げる , rather poorly executed (he should not be shaking hands) but that is to be expected unless one is experienced at such matters. When in Japan I often would moderately 頭を下げる to those older than myself.
Has he fired everyone in the protocol office?
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John Neverbend Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:52:08pm |
re: #20 Joo-LiZ
Lizards!
I have a question, I'm sure it's been asked dozens upon dozens of times before, but I don't know where to begin the search for past archives for something like this.
My sister has always been extremely apolitical. My father and I are both fairly conservative (particularly in the economic and foreign policy sense).
Recently my sister decided to start reading political book and get herself informed and I just found out the first book she got was a recommendation from her boss.
Lo and behold, it's Naomi Klein's "The Shock Doctrine". She messaged me today, basically saying "Have you ever heard of this book, it seems REALLLY liberal".
Bottom line, after explaining who Naomi Klein is and what she is known for, I convinced her to let me recommend the next book she reads. Now, I'm left with the task of finding a book that does a good job of presenting the world from a conservative view-point at a level that someone not-so-involved will be able to grasp.
I don't think my sister is looking to "choose sides" at this point, but I think she is looking for enough material to be able to follow political conversations, and I don't want all her ammunition to be from the likes of Naomi Klein.
Any recommendations?
Staying with Canadians, how about "Shakedown" by Ezra Levant? It's specifically about the Canadian Human Rights Commission.
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reine.de.tout Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:52:22pm |
re: #275 Cato the Elder
Just got around to viewing this. I'm enchanted. Especially with the guy on the right, who has one of the lowest brows I've ever seen.
The tune is actually catchier than many by groups like "Herman's Hermits"...
The guy on the right also has no neck.
Fascinating.
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:52:33pm |
re: #296 MandyManners
He said something "sucks" the other day. I unleashed a 50-gallon drum of whoop-ass on him.
That reminds me. In the car on the ride home after today's game, he asked, "Mom, what's a 'motherfucker'?" After I got the car out of the emergency lane, I asked him where he heard it. He said some kid on the other team called him that.
Those kids are either nine or 10.
my girly daughter is having a boy...her hubby is a rough and tumble giant from a huge family...should be a good one
Boyz...
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MandyManners Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:52:47pm |
re: #274 Sharmuta
When I saw the Stones, some lady had brought her kid and was complaining about someone around us smoking a joint. I really don't know what she was thinking bringing her kid. Oh- and it wasn't me smoking.
Sounds like a Special Snowflake is raising another one.
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John Neverbend Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:54:41pm |
re: #42 Joo-LiZ
Sorry if I can't be more specific, when it comes down to it, if it's a good book and readable, I'm sure it'll be fine, but I just want to give her something that balances whatever anti-capitalist and "america is a imperial power" trife she'll be reading in the Klein book.
I've seen Klein's husband in action. He's the ass-hat's ass-hat.
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MandyManners Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:54:53pm |
re: #300 albusteve
my girly daughter is having a boy...her hubby is a rough and tumble giant from a huge family...should be a good one
Boyz...
[Video]
Eek. The Beatles.
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Cato the Elder Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:55:27pm |
re: #296 MandyManners
He said something "sucks" the other day. I unleashed a 50-gallon drum of whoop-ass on him.
That reminds me. In the car on the ride home after today's game, he asked, "Mom, what's a 'motherfucker'?" After I got the car out of the emergency lane, I asked him where he heard it. He said some kid on the other team called him that.
Those kids are either nine or 10.
When I was about eight, my younger brother told me he'd heard this funny new word - "fuck". I had never heard it before, but it sure sounded funny. He said, "Say it the next time you're mad about something." So I did. At the dinner table.
The little creep still owes me for that one.
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:55:47pm |
re: #301 MandyManners
Sounds like a Special Snowflake is raising another one.
the Stones are NOT for kids...(except mine of course)...you could get arrested for just humming some of those lyrics
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Dr. Shalit Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:56:51pm |
re: #298 John Neverbend
Staying with Canadians, how about "Shakedown" by Ezra Levant? It's specifically about the Canadian Human Rights Commission.
JN -
Levant is absolutely right - in Pre-Trudeau Canada. That PM Harper still tolerates this silliness is either amazing or a "cya" on his part.
-S-
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:57:13pm |
re: #305 Cato the Elder
When I was about eight, my younger brother told me he'd heard this funny new word - "fuck". I had never heard it before, but it sure sounded funny. He said, "Say it the next time you're mad about something." So I did. At the dinner table.
The little creep still owes me for that one.
I had a French Canadian babysitter as a kid and heard the word "bastard." I thought is was French 'til I said it in front of my dad. D'oh!!
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ryannon Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:58:29pm |
re: #290 albusteve
thanks for all the Stones fans chipping in...we are not all soulless, black hearted heathens like they are...
One of my favs:
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brookly red Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:58:56pm |
re: #308 Cannadian Club Akbar
I had a French Canadian babysitter as a kid and heard the word "bastard." I thought is was French 'til I said it in front of my dad. D'oh!!
odd term for a babysitter to be using...
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soxfan4life Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:59:10pm |
re: #297 MandyManners
Has he fired everyone in the protocol office?
Or did he blame the previous administrations protocol office?
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Dr. Shalit Sat, Nov 14, 2009 4:59:56pm |
re: #308 Cannadian Club Akbar
I had a French Canadian babysitter as a kid and heard the word "bastard." I thought is was French 'til I said it in front of my dad. D'oh!!
CC Akbar -
En Anglais - OR - "batarde?"
-S-
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Racer X Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:00:00pm |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:00:04pm |
re: #310 brookly red
odd term for a babysitter to be using...
Overheard in conversation. Not to me or talking with me.
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Decatur Deb Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:00:22pm |
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:01:43pm |
re: #305 Cato the Elder
When I was about eight, my younger brother told me he'd heard this funny new word - "fuck". I had never heard it before, but it sure sounded funny. He said, "Say it the next time you're mad about something." So I did. At the dinner table.
The little creep still owes me for that one.
when I was about 14 or so, we all sat at the dinner table, five of us, I sat next to my oldest sister as usual...I made a comment that my mom was 'bitching about everything' and my dad, just to my right, punched me in the side of my head and knocked me clean over backwards in my chair...I could not even believe it...my sister ignored me and I rolled around and righted things and sat back down and dinner proceeded as if nothing had happened, while I went into shock...I never thanked him enough for that...it was only a scratch
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:01:57pm |
re: #312 Dr. Shalit
CC Akbar -
En Anglais - OR - "batarde?"
-S-
In english. (I hope I answered your question)
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brookly red Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:02:51pm |
re: #314 Cannadian Club Akbar
Overheard in conversation. Not to me or talking with me.
gee, I hope not... but I was wondering about context. I heard some interesting terms come outta my baby sitter my self.
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Dr. Shalit Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:03:05pm |
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John Neverbend Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:03:29pm |
re: #205 Dr. Shalit
Mandy -
Hirohito DID NOT sign the surrender, as Emperor, such an act was beneath his dignity.
-S-
Correct. He did, however, make a radio broadcast imploring Japan to surrender. Here's the surrender video.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:03:59pm |
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:04:00pm |
re: #309 ryannon
One of my favs:
nice old ballad...something the Stones never got enough credit for...thanks for that
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solomonpanting Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:06:24pm |
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soxfan4life Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:06:25pm |
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soxfan4life Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:07:16pm |
re: #323 solomonpanting
Uh-oh
But we need them to keep those awful private insurance companies in line.
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:07:56pm |
one of my all time favorite Stones ballads...are you already sick of me?
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:07:56pm |
re: #321 Cannadian Club Akbar
I took French in college and remember none of it!!!
I took french in High School and flunked ALL of it!
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Racer X Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:08:12pm |
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brookly red Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:08:18pm |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:08:36pm |
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freetoken Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:09:20pm |
re: #297 MandyManners
Has he fired everyone in the protocol office?
Well, perhaps someone ought to be chastised over this...
I suspect that the President simply wanted to demonstrate, while in the country, that the US honors the traditions and people. Given the very touchy issue of servicemen in Japan and the controversies over the recent crimes, that the Commander in Chief of said servicemen would be seen as being sensitive to the culture is a positive thing. However, doing it properly would have been better, IMO.
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solomonpanting Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:10:25pm |
re: #327 sattv4u2
I took french in High School and flunked ALL of it!
I had a beautiful high school French teacher who would drive the boys crazy by sitting (cross-legged) on the front of her desk, when (women) teachers wore dresses.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:10:29pm |
re: #327 sattv4u2
I took french in High School and flunked ALL of it!
Well, if you would have passed you could be running satellites in Paris right now!
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:11:40pm |
re: #324 soxfan4life
This is my favorite from the Stones
oh hell yeah...a classic make up song...one thing is gone but another awaits
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solomonpanting Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:12:05pm |
re: #329 brookly red
47 B? that's the size of a small country.
Not to worry. That's where we may be headed.
semi///
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:12:38pm |
re: #333 Cannadian Club Akbar
Well, if you would have passed you could be running satellites in Paris right now!
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Who says I DON'T!!!
Seriously, we have a facility in Germany and another just outside of Moscow that I can control and look at remotely from Atlanta
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soxfan4life Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:13:33pm |
re: #334 albusteve
oh hell yeah...a classic make up song...one thing is gone but another awaits
Well I am good at messing up, so I had to learn how to make up good.
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Taqyia2Me Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:14:00pm |
re: #316 albusteve
when I was about 14 or so, we all sat at the dinner table, five of us, I sat next to my oldest sister as usual...I made a comment that my mom was 'bitching about everything' and my dad, just to my right, punched me in the side of my head and knocked me clean over backwards in my chair...I could not even believe it...my sister ignored me and I rolled around and righted things and sat back down and dinner proceeded as if nothing had happened, while I went into shock...I never thanked him enough for that...it was only a scratch
We must have had the same dad! Wish it woulda cured permanent like of cussing, however...
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brookly red Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:14:11pm |
re: #331 freetoken
Well, perhaps someone ought to be chastised over this...
I suspect that the President simply wanted to demonstrate, while in the country, that the US honors the traditions and people. Given the very touchy issue of servicemen in Japan and the controversies over the recent crimes, that the Commander in Chief of said servicemen would be seen as being sensitive to the culture is a positive thing. However, doing it properly would have been better, IMO.
In Janpan don't both parties bow? (that is a real question not a snak btw)
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:14:46pm |
re: #324 soxfan4life
This is my favorite from the Stones
Kieth Richards and Mick Taylor playing flat tops, swapping riffs...were those guys good or what?
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John Neverbend Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:14:53pm |
re: #127 psyop
Star Wars on the Mighty Wurlitzer Theater Organ!!!
[Video]
I'm rather partial to the organ. Here's a stunning piece by Olivier Messiaen (there's a bit of an echo, I'm afraid).
Watch him lean over and push a few buttons at 5':13"
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:15:46pm |
And then there's this...
I got thrown under the bus today at my new job I will be quiting soon and the guy that deserved the yelling was standing right next to me as I was getting yelled at and didn't admit his mistakes. I do have a new job, BTW. Fucker.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:15:47pm |
The Onion: Area Man Passionate Defender Of What He Imagines Constitution To Be
According to Mortensen—an otherwise mild-mannered husband, father, and small-business owner—the most serious threat to his fanciful version of the 222-year-old Constitution is the attempt by far-left "traitors" to strip it of its religious foundation."Right there in the preamble, the authors make their priorities clear: 'one nation under God,'" said Mortensen, attributing to the Constitution a line from the Pledge of Allegiance, which itself did not include any reference to a deity until 1954. "Well, there's a reason they put that right at the top."
...
"Dad's great, but listening to all that talk radio has put some weird ideas into his head," said daughter Samantha, a freshman at Reed College in Portland, OR. "He believes the Constitution allows the government to torture people and ban gay marriage, yet he doesn't even know that it guarantees universal health care."
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soxfan4life Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:16:42pm |
re: #342 Cannadian Club Akbar
And then there's this...
I got thrown under the bus today at my new job I will be quiting soon and the guy that deserved the yelling was standing right next to me as I was getting yelled at and didn't admit his mistakes. I do have a new job, BTW. Fucker.
Made the decision you were mulling over this AM a lot easier did it?
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:17:36pm |
re: #337 soxfan4life
Well I am good at messing up, so I had to learn how to make up good.
my life was a reckless, game of chance back in the day...a disaster waiting to happen, and it did on occasion...I could always relate to the Stones
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:18:11pm |
re: #344 soxfan4life
Made the decision you were mulling over this AM a lot easier did it?
Yes, at about noon. I worked 'til 3:30. I work tomorrow and will just do it for the money.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:18:46pm |
re: #339 brookly red
In Janpan don't both parties bow? (that is a real question not a snak btw)
Hungry?
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Racer X Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:19:00pm |
re: #339 brookly red
In Janpan don't both parties bow? (that is a real question not a snak btw)
ODS!
ODS!
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brookly red Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:19:02pm |
re: #343 Killgore Trout
hard to tell what's humor and what isn't these days...
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:19:13pm |
re: #338 Taqyia2Me
We must have had the same dad! Wish it woulda cured permanent like of cussing, however...
my mom...89yrs old was just here in ABQ to visit me...I sure do love my mom
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brookly red Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:20:16pm |
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MandyManners Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:20:53pm |
re: #343 Killgore Trout
The Onion: Area Man Passionate Defender Of What He Imagines Constitution To Be
yet he doesn't even know that it guarantees universal health care.
She's ignorant, too.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:21:50pm |
re: #349 brookly red
hard to tell what's humor and what isn't these days...
Agreed. I almost didn't link to it because it's sadly all to true. The healthcare line was what gave me a chuckle.
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SixDegrees Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:22:14pm |
re: #339 brookly red
In Janpan don't both parties bow? (that is a real question not a snak btw)
Yes, they do. And both bow in this case.
They also both shake hands. No word on whether this foreshadows the collapse of the Japanese Empire.
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brookly red Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:22:15pm |
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freetoken Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:22:45pm |
re: #339 brookly red
There is a lot going on in that brief greeting between the President and Emperor.
In this case, where there is such an obvious age difference, the younger person would naturally be considered inferior.
However, this is also a visiting head of state... which makes it much more complicated than normal social interactions.
I never "bowed" to younger people while I was in Japan, in any personal situation... only to those who were much older than I.
From my experience, in these days in most of daily life bowing is not part of the young person's life. They only do it when they know they have to (such as on their job.) As we work up the age scale the adherence to tradition was stronger.
IMO it would have been proper for the President to have done a modest, quick, proper (from the waist, bending the back not the legs, hands by the side with the fingers curled) bow. The length of time one remains bowed is critical. In this case the President should have done a bow that was not very long in time, but done formally and correctly.
Yes, if I were in charge of the protocol I would have had him do it differently.
Nevertheless, I have no problem with him bowing... When in Japan do as the Japanese.
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MandyManners Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:23:57pm |
re: #356 Killgore Trout
It's a parody.
Oh, gosh. The words "The Onion" shoulda' been a major clue, eh?
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Dr. Shalit Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:24:13pm |
re: #327 sattv4u2
I took french in High School and flunked ALL of it!
satt4u2 -
I took Spanish in college and was asked to major in it. Long story, took Spanish in HS got a "D" and remediated, to a "C" - Got into Spanish and for awhile, within my vocabulary, you would have never known that English was my First Language. My French I learned from French Canadian Heritage Classmates, German from my Grandparent's Yiddish - with grammar from my younger sister who took German and some Italian from my barber, classmates and THEIR grandparents.
-S-
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MandyManners Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:24:19pm |
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:24:52pm |
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brookly red Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:25:18pm |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:25:21pm |
re: #359 freetoken
Nevertheless, I have no problem with him bowing... When in Japan do as the Japanese.
Does that include karaoke?
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Killgore Trout Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:25:38pm |
re: #362 MandyManners
Heh. It happens to all of us.
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brookly red Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:26:09pm |
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Dr. Shalit Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:26:26pm |
re: #361 Dr. Shalit
Revise and Extend -
Would my Irish Friends, "Prod" and Catholic have spoken Gaelic. Might have picked up some.
-S-
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Cato the Elder Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:26:32pm |
re: #359 freetoken
Dubya, I suspect, would have tried to hold hands with the Emperor and tongue-kiss him.
His father would have just barfed on the rug.
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:26:35pm |
I swear I had an opinion about the Bow From Hell, but I forgot what it was...I'm just lucky that way
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:26:51pm |
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Racer X Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:27:04pm |
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MandyManners Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:27:52pm |
re: #371 Cannadian Club Akbar
I told a girl that once. She left.
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They make little blue pills for that now.
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:27:55pm |
re: #369 Cato the Elder
Dubya, I suspect, would have tried to hold hands with the Emperor and tongue-kiss him.
His father would have just barfed on the rug.
that joke is long spent...speed up Cato
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ryannon Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:28:18pm |
re: #368 Dr. Shalit
Revise and Extend -
Would my Irish Friends, "Prod" and Catholic have spoken Gaelic. Might have picked up some.
-S-
I don't think Protestant Irish speak Gaelic.
Doesn't come with the territory, so to speak.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:28:36pm |
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wrenchwench Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:28:56pm |
I used to go see this guy every Wednesday night at The Barn at UC Riverside. (I didn't go to school there, but not too far away.) He had a band then that he called The Rockets, later the Rocket 88's. I was pleased to find him on YouTube, and still playing. Last I heard (about 25 years ago, gosh time flies!) he had to have surgery on both wrists for carpal tunnel. He was worried about it, but looks like he can still play!
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John Neverbend Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:32:02pm |
re: #375 ryannon
I don't think Protestant Irish speak Gaelic.
Doesn't come with the territory, so to speak.
And those Irish who do speak it call it "Irish". I remember hearing it spoken on Aer Lingus. At first, I thought the flight attendant was speaking backwards. I caught the word "slán" which means "goodbye".
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ryannon Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:32:06pm |
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:32:09pm |
re: #369 Cato the Elder
Dubya, I suspect, would have tried to hold hands with the Emperor and tongue-kiss him.
His father would have just barfed on the rug.
Funny how times change AND stay the same
Back then, people were railing against Bush because oil topped $60 a barrel. "Bush is protecting his Saudi masters"
Today, oil hovers around $80 ,,, crickets
ALSO ,,, look at the OTHER headline from your link re: gay marraige
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:33:30pm |
re: #380 sattv4u2
Funny how times change AND stay the same
Back then, people were railing against Bush because oil topped $60 a barrel. "Bush is protecting his Saudi masters"
Today, oil hovers around $80 ,,, cricketsALSO ,,, look at the OTHER headline from your link re: gay marraige
wait til it spikes again to over $100 a barrel...end of said recovery
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:33:48pm |
re: #379 ryannon
One my favorite songs. I love it.
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Cato the Elder Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:34:04pm |
re: #359 freetoken
Many Europeans of a certain age, by the way, still practice a very Japanese-looking bow (stiff, from the waist, eyes down, hands at sides) when greeting superiors in formal situations.
You have to be quick to spot it, but it's done.
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Sharmuta Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:34:23pm |
Elsewhere in this volume, she talks about creationism, saying she “didn’t believe in the theory that human beings — thinking, loving beings — originated from fish that sprouted legs and crawled out of the sea” or from “monkeys who eventually swung down from the trees.”
Now we have a definitive statement. She is indeed a creationist.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:34:30pm |
re: #381 albusteve
wait til it spikes again to over $100 a barrel...end of said recovery
I guess Obama is protecting his Saudi masters!!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:34:59pm |
re: #381 albusteve
wait til it spikes again to over $100 a barrel...end of said recovery
I hear people bitching about oil companies not realizing the value of the dollar.
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brookly red Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:35:01pm |
re: #381 albusteve
wait til it spikes again to over $100 a barrel...end of said recovery
I remebmer when 100 bucks was a lot of money...
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Cato the Elder Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:35:30pm |
re: #380 sattv4u2
ALSO ,,, look at the OTHER headline from your link re: gay marraige
I put it there for that very reason. And I suspect the irony was intentional on the part of the newspaper layout editor that day.
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:36:04pm |
re: #382 Cannadian Club Akbar
One my favorite songs. I love it.
I like his work with the Wibury's much better...
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freetoken Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:36:19pm |
re: #384 Sharmuta
Now we have a definitive statement. She is indeed a creationist.
She won't leave a red-state button un-pushed.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:36:57pm |
re: #384 Sharmuta
Now we have a definitive statement. She is indeed a creationist.
Under those constraints, I guess I am too
Does she beleive the world started 6,000 years ago? I don't!
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Dr. Shalit Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:37:01pm |
re: #375 ryannon
I don't think Protestant Irish speak Gaelic.
Doesn't come with the territory, so to speak.
ryanon -
Gotcha - But One Never Quite Know, Do One? My Boss speaks English, Hebrew and Arabic - in that order. The Import/Export side of his business deals with Egypt and Jordan - carefully - and yet still deals so long as the "Cold Peace" is in effect. He also deals with China, the Chinese are more accommodating, there always seems to be someone you can contact who speaks, reads, writes English - just like the Japanese in the day.
-S-
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Killgore Trout Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:37:19pm |
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ryannon Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:37:41pm |
re: #378 John Neverbend
And those Irish who do speak it call it "Irish". I remember hearing it spoken on Aer Lingus. At first, I thought the flight attendant was speaking backwards. I caught the word "slán" which means "goodbye".
I spent several summers way the hell out in an isolated part of Kerry; the oldsters there could still speak it. Beautiful people, beautiful place, beautiful memories...
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:38:21pm |
re: #387 brookly red
I remebmer when 100 bucks was a lot of money...
I used to 25 bucks for a lid of real good weed
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Killgore Trout Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:38:50pm |
re: #384 Sharmuta
Heh. The poor woman just couldn't be any dumber.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:39:08pm |
re: #390 freetoken
She won't leave a red-state button un-pushed.
Why should she (or any potential Repub 2012 hopeful)?
You make it sound as if pandering while on the campaign trail is a new phenom!
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wrenchwench Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:39:14pm |
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:39:51pm |
are you LISTENING Nancy?...decent pot has skyrocketed on your watch!
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brookly red Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:39:57pm |
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Cato the Elder Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:40:06pm |
re: #384 Sharmuta
Now we have a definitive statement. She is indeed a creationist.
The title of that article is "Memoir Is Palin’s Payback to McCain Campaign".
I can't for the life of me tell WTF the bitch is bitching about. Without the - admittedly failed - campaign, she'd still be stuck being governor of Alaska a job she clearly hated (else why did she quit at the first opportunity). No million-dollar book deal, and nobody would know her from Carrie Prejean's pregnant second cousin.
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Racer X Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:40:17pm |
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freetoken Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:40:25pm |
re: #399 sattv4u2
I didn't mean to imply that she won't or shouldn't... since, as you imply, she is indeed running for 2012.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:40:38pm |
re: #393 Killgore Trout
OMG! Obama's a draft dodger!
EXCLUSIVE: Did Next Commander-in-Chief Falsify Selective Service Registration? Never Actually Register? Obama’s Draft Registration Raises Serious Questions
I have straws!!! Grasp at them!! GRASP!!!
/
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:40:44pm |
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Sharmuta Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:41:00pm |
re: #391 sattv4u2
Under those constraints, I guess I am too
Does she beleive the world started 6,000 years ago? I don't!
But- you ARE a fish.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:41:30pm |
This is pretty low even for a British tabloid...
Obama Lung Cancer Shocker!
Chain-smoking President Barack Obama has lung cancer, White House sources fear as the Commander-in-Chief suffers chest pains, dizzy spells and has lost 25 pounds! This week's GLOBE bares the stunning inside story. You can't afford to miss it!
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freetoken Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:41:39pm |
re: #393 Killgore Trout
That was a year ago... has it become a new issue again?
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:42:27pm |
re: #405 freetoken
I didn't mean to imply that she won't or shouldn't... since, as you imply, she is indeed running for 2012.
Of course she is. Need we list all the "runners" from both sides?
((wha ,,, you don't think there are dems waiting in the wings doing back room deals just in case Obama tanks and someone takes a run at him from the dem party??)
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John Neverbend Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:42:37pm |
re: #396 ryannon
I spent several summers way the hell out in an isolated part of Kerry; the oldsters there could still speak it. Beautiful people, beautiful place, beautiful memories...
Like the Welsh, they're serious about preserving their language.
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Dr. Shalit Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:42:58pm |
re: #381 albusteve
wait til it spikes again to over $100 a barrel...end of said recovery
albusteve -
That would be the WORST Mistake Saudi could make with BHO as President. Unless a war with Iran breaks out, they won't do it. That is the Jihadist "Ace Up the Sleeve." I trust the Saudi Regime in the GWOT - LESS far than I can throw it - they are however, NOT STUPID.
-S-
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Killgore Trout Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:43:00pm |
re: #410 freetoken
That was a year ago... has it become a new issue again?
Ah, nice catch. The article's a year old.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:43:08pm |
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MandyManners Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:43:26pm |
re: #384 Sharmuta
Now we have a definitive statement. She is indeed a creationist.
“didn’t believe in the theory that human beings — thinking, loving beings — originated from fish that sprouted legs and crawled out of the sea” or from “monkeys who eventually swung down from the trees.”
I don't believe that, either.
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Racer X Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:43:39pm |
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:43:44pm |
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brookly red Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:43:50pm |
re: #409 Killgore Trout
This is pretty low even for a British tabloid...
Obama Lung Cancer Shocker!
ahem, President Biden...
not funny.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:44:59pm |
re: #419 brookly red
ahem, President Biden...
not funny.
You know Mandy is gonna break out "The Villages" video now, right?
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:45:48pm |
re: #409 Killgore Trout
This is pretty low even for a British tabloid...
Obama Lung Cancer Shocker!
I was at the checkout of the store yesterday and saw that!
Picture of him coughing looked more like he was a pitcher warming his hand !
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MandyManners Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:47:14pm |
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:47:24pm |
re: #417 Racer X
here's your 68 Barracuda...
Image: mopp_0607_cuda_01_z+1968_plymouth_barracuda+front_view.jpg
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MandyManners Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:47:51pm |
re: #421 Cannadian Club Akbar
You know Mandy is gonna break out "The Villages" video now, right?
You know me too well.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:48:40pm |
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brookly red Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:48:57pm |
re: #416 MandyManners
“didn’t believe in the theory that human beings — thinking, loving beings — originated from fish that sprouted legs and crawled out of the sea” or from “monkeys who eventually swung down from the trees.”
I don't believe that, either.
/perhaps a ride on the A train might convince you...
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Yankee Division Son Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:49:28pm |
After Billions in bailouts, 800 Billion in stimulus, now wants Trillions for health care reform, more for cap and trade... but NOW he's worried about spending 40 Billion/yr
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Long Nics are Looonnng Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:49:34pm |
Okay, this time into the thread I watched the video.
Uh... wow?
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Dr. Shalit Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:50:17pm |
re: #404 Racer X
The 5,6,7,8 s - I Walk Like Jayne Mansfield
RacerX -
Give EACH of them a set of Kawasaki Glasses and it's 5,6,7,8 - It's Gov. Palin We Emulate. Sarah, as someone who really likes you, keep your hair "Down" or cut it back some.
-S-
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:50:51pm |
re: #429 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Okay, this time into the thread I watched the video.
Uh... wow?
My sister wants a baby from either guy. Makes me cry a little.
///
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:52:06pm |
re: #428 Yankee Division Son
After Billions in bailouts, 800 Billion in stimulus, now wants Trillions for health care reform, more for cap and trade... but NOW he's worried about spending 40 Billion/yr
right...the F22 was too expensive...BOs cred is in the toilet...he is very inconsistant, but people like him and consider that he is saving the economy...disregarding, of course, his role in letting it tank...ALL HAIL!
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goddamnedfrank Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:53:25pm |
re: #391 sattv4u2
Under those constraints, I guess I am too
Does she beleive the world started 6,000 years ago? I don't!
re: #416 MandyManners
“didn’t believe in the theory that human beings — thinking, loving beings — originated from fish that sprouted legs and crawled out of the sea” or from “monkeys who eventually swung down from the trees.”
I don't believe that, either.
So let me ask, if you don't believe that we evolved from such animals, then why does a comparative DNA analysis tell a different story? Was our own DNA designed to lead us to a false conclusion?
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:56:35pm |
did you miss the Cuda?...sorry
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John Neverbend Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:56:36pm |
re: #433 goddamnedfrank
We didn't evolve from chimps. We and chimps evolved from a common ancestor. That's the story that DNA is telling us.
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MandyManners Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:56:58pm |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:57:05pm |
re: #433 goddamnedfrank
I'm not trying to be snarky but can you find an article that isn't 3 years old. I don't think science stops.
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brookly red Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:57:53pm |
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:57:56pm |
re: #435 John Neverbend
We didn't evolve from chimps. We and chimps evolved from a common ancestor. That's the story that DNA is telling us.
fine...either way, why should I care?...why is this an issue?, what did I miss?
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:59:07pm |
re: #433 goddamnedfrank
And let me ask YOU the why didn't ALL chimps evolve into humans?
What transpired that allowed one or several branches of the family to evolve yet let others stay relatively the same as they were millions of years ago?
There are differences between Homo Sapia and Neandertals. Did both come from apes? If so, why did one survive and the other didn't? Couldn't be geographical as Neandertal was spread from the Gibralter area to Western Asia (totally diffferent geographys/ climates/ ect)
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Dr. Shalit Sat, Nov 14, 2009 5:59:33pm |
re: #432 albusteve
right...the F22 was too expensive...BOs cred is in the toilet...he is very inconsistant, but people like him and consider that he is saving the economy...disregarding, of course, his role in letting it tank...ALL HAIL!
albusteve -
Whaddabout the F-35? Granted the F-22 is is a Gilded Whole Life Insurance Policy, Whaddabout F-22, 2.0 - A Pilotless F-22 flown by Air Force Kids back in the 'States with "Nintendo-ish" Screen and Stick? Just wondering. An aircraft like that would be a Game Changer for Western Nations that would not authorize "Suicide Missions." Hmmm...
-S-
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Racer X Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:00:07pm |
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:01:38pm |
re: #441 Dr. Shalit
albusteve -
Whaddabout the F-35? Granted the F-22 is is a Gilded Whole Life Insurance Policy, Whaddabout F-22, 2.0 - A Pilotless F-22 flown by Air Force Kids back in the 'States with "Nintendo-ish" Screen and Stick? Just wondering. An aircraft like that would be a Game Changer for Western Nations that would not authorize "Suicide Missions." Hmmm...
-S-
there is a reason for the F35 as well...we need both but others disagree...at least it's an honest debate...we need to control the air, period...and we can if we choose
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Sharmuta Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:01:42pm |
re: #440 sattv4u2
And let me ask YOU the why didn't ALL chimps evolve into humans?
What transpired that allowed one or several branches of the family to evolve yet let others stay relatively the same as they were millions of years ago?There are differences between Homo Sapia and Neandertals. Did both come from apes? If so, why did one survive and the other didn't? Couldn't be geographical as Neandertal was spread from the Gibralter area to Western Asia (totally diffferent geographys/ climates/ ect)
You have GOT to be joking! We didn't evolve from chimps- we have a common ancestor.
Neanderthals died out and they were not spread out that far. They were in europe. Yes- there are differences between the two species, and yes- both came from a common ancestor.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:02:06pm |
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Cato the Elder Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:02:19pm |
The world is 6,000 years old. Always has been, always will be.
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Dr. Shalit Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:02:55pm |
re: #434 albusteve
did you miss the Cuda?...sorry
[Link: www.cars-on-line.com...]
albusteve -
Miss the 1970 - 74 "E" Body even more. Had a Dodge Challenger T/A, a LWB 'Cuda more or less, loved that car, 340, Torqueflite et. al.
-S-
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:03:07pm |
re: #446 Sharmuta
We didn't evolve from chimps- we have a common ancestor.
I was playing off the post I replied too
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Racer X Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:03:23pm |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:03:26pm |
re: #448 Cato the Elder
The world is 6,000 years old. Always has been, always will be.
I have had only one birthday my entire life.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:04:02pm |
re: #452 Cannadian Club Akbar
I have had only one birthday my entire life.
Fleas only live 24 hours
Some days, it rains!
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Sharmuta Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:04:20pm |
re: #450 sattv4u2
Sure you were.
There is plenty of reading material if you'd like to have your "joke" questions answered.
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:04:31pm |
I'd like to take this opportunity at this forum to give a big shout out to my chimp friends!...Cheetah!...gimme five bro!...fuckin APE!
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John Neverbend Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:04:56pm |
re: #384 Sharmuta
Now we have a definitive statement. She is indeed a creationist.
Was this ever in doubt? I thought this was made clear during her campaign, although she suggested that she wouldn't try to influence educational policy to accommodate creationism/ID.
Setting that aside, her "analysis" of evolutionary theory is a vast improvement on the "two mosquitoes and the mud hole" theory of Mark Sanford. She has about the same level of understanding that the Bishop of Oxford demonstrated to T.H. Huxley in 1860.
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ryannon Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:05:25pm |
re: #440 sattv4u2
And let me ask YOU the why didn't ALL chimps evolve into humans?
What transpired that allowed one or several branches of the family to evolve yet let others stay relatively the same as they were millions of years ago?There are differences between Homo Sapia and Neandertals. Did both come from apes? If so, why did one survive and the other didn't? Couldn't be geographical as Neandertal was spread from the Gibralter area to Western Asia (totally diffferent geographys/ climates/ ect)
Let's face it.
They just didn't have that swing. Ended up nothing meaning a thing and went extinct.
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brookly red Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:05:27pm |
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:05:36pm |
re: #446 Sharmuta
and BTW ,,, ,considering the time, they WERE spread out pretty. It's not like there were planes, trains and cars
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John Neverbend Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:05:51pm |
re: #439 albusteve
fine...either way, why should I care?...why is this an issue?, what did I miss?
It's not an issue.
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:06:45pm |
re: #449 Dr. Shalit
albusteve -
Miss the 1970 - 74 "E" Body even more. Had a Dodge Challenger T/A, a LWB 'Cuda more or less, loved that car, 340, Torqueflite et. al.
-S-
vintage, correct, Hemi Cudas...66-69, can be worth a million dollars...did you wreck one back then?...hahaha!...really
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:08:15pm |
re: #454 Sharmuta
Sure you were.
There is plenty of reading material if you'd like to have your "joke" questions answered.
Okay ,, you're right ,, I WASN'T playing off the post I responded too!
{sigh}
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goddamnedfrank Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:08:28pm |
re: #440 sattv4u2
And let me ask YOU the why didn't ALL chimps evolve into humans?
A.) As John Neverbend so eloquently clarified, we are talking about a common ancestor and not modern chimps per se.
B. ) Because mutations are, by definition, deviations from a previous norm, and do not in any way imply the absolute destruction of that norm. A common ancestor split into two divergence species that adapted to different niches in different ways.
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:10:06pm |
re: #460 John Neverbend
It's not an issue.
thank you...radicals in the WH is an issue...deficits are an issue, national debt is an issue...Sarah Palin is not an issue...our apely ancestors is not an issue...there is a pattern we either follow or stray from...Ron Paul!
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ryannon Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:10:44pm |
re: #448 Cato the Elder
The world is 6,000 years old. Always has been, always will be.
Same as it ever was.
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Sharmuta Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:10:57pm |
re: #459 sattv4u2
What do you think happened to neanderthals?
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Long Nics are Looonnng Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:11:51pm |
re: #448 Cato the Elder
The world is 6,000 years old. Always has been, always will be.
I am more interested in the Rock of Ages, than I am in the age of rocks.
-Matthew Harrison Brady, Inherit the Wind
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:11:58pm |
re: #466 Sharmuta
What do you think happened to neanderthals?
they all evolved into Eagles fans...that's my theory
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Dr. Shalit Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:12:59pm |
re: #445 albusteve
there is a reason for the F35 as well...we need both but others disagree...at least it's an honest debate...we need to control the air, period...and we can if we choose
albusteve -
Where you can, choose "moreerer and cheaperer" - which is what the P-51 was as compared to the P-47, or for that matter, the F-16 vs. the F-15 today.
Every Knight needs and deserves a squire - the "Spit" had the Hurricane.
The Air Superiority Game is like Chess. You need Knights and damned good Pawnsre: #461 albusteve
vintage, correct, Hemi Cudas...66-69, can be worth a million dollars...did you wreck one back then?...hahaha!...really
albusteve -
Nope - Owned 3 Mustangs - '65 2+2, traded for '66 GT-350H, traded for '65 Hardtop when my insurance company figured out what the '66 was. Worked for Ford Assembly Division at the time. Didn't POOP where I ate.
-S-
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:13:03pm |
re: #469 albusteve
they all evolved into Eagles fans...that's my theory
Works for me, though I was going to say Packers fans.
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:13:08pm |
re: #463 goddamnedfrank
A.) As John Neverbend so eloquently clarified, we are talking about a common ancestor and not modern chimps per se.
B. ) Because mutations are, by definition, deviations from a previous norm, and do not in any way imply the absolute destruction of that norm. A common ancestor split into two divergence species that adapted to different niches in different ways.
c'mon Frank...hey hey we're the Monkeys!...you dig the Monkeys?
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John Neverbend Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:13:20pm |
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brookly red Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:13:48pm |
re: #469 albusteve
they all evolved into Eagles fans...that's my theory
i thought the worked for GIECO?
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John Neverbend Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:13:50pm |
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Floral Giraffe Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:14:40pm |
re: #472 albusteve
c'mon Frank...hey hey we're the Monkeys!...you dig the Monkeys?
Will NOT stoop to youtubing the Monkees.
WILL NOT!
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Long Nics are Looonnng Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:15:25pm |
re: #475 John Neverbend
They became lawyers?
"These evolution discussions. They frighten and confuse me."
-Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer.
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John Neverbend Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:15:30pm |
re: #476 Floral Giraffe
Will NOT stoop to youtubing the Monkees.
WILL NOT!
Oh go on. I really like their song "Valleri".
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:16:01pm |
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:17:10pm |
re: #466 Sharmuta
What do you think happened to neanderthals?
I've seen a number of theories, all resonable
They didn;'t interbreed
They DID interbreed and because they were the "weaker" species were absorbed
As more modern Cro Magnion people apperaed across Europe, Neandertals were pushed into smaller and smaller pockets until the species died out through attrition
Lastly, could have been something as simple as a disease that was limited to the species
I'm not sure. I wasn't there 6,000 years ago!!
// (last line only)
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:18:15pm |
re: #470 Dr. Shalit
well said all the way around...should have kept the '66 Mustang...unless you were running guns with it or whatever
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Floral Giraffe Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:18:34pm |
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MandyManners Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:18:34pm |
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Sharmuta Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:19:20pm |
re: #480 sattv4u2
They DID interbreed and because they were the "weaker" species were absorbed
I will tell you now this particular theory is the one scientific racists use. And it's the one the evidence leads away from as well.
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Stanley Sea Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:19:36pm |
re: #468 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I am more interested in the Rock of Ages, than I am in the age of rocks.
-Matthew Harrison Brady, Inherit the Wind
Def Lepard?
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John Neverbend Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:20:02pm |
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:20:22pm |
take the last train from Clarkesville, Frank
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Dr. Shalit Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:20:24pm |
re: #466 Sharmuta
What do you think happened to neanderthals?
Sharmuta -
I Believe there were wars, the "Cro-Magnon" breed eventually prevailed, and Neanderthal was subsumed within the "Cro-Magnon" breed as recessionary genes in the pool. Discussion?
-S-
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:20:28pm |
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Sharmuta Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:21:04pm |
re: #488 Dr. Shalit
Sharmuta -
I Believe there were wars, the "Cro-Magnon" breed eventually prevailed, and Neanderthal was subsumed within the "Cro-Magnon" breed as recessionary genes in the pool. Discussion?
-S-
No- the DNA evidence leads away from this theory, and it's the theory of racists to boot.
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ryannon Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:21:24pm |
re: #480 sattv4u2
I've seen a number of theories, all resonable
They didn;'t interbreed
They DID interbreed and because they were the "weaker" species were absorbed
As more modern Cro Magnion people apperaed across Europe, Neandertals were pushed into smaller and smaller pockets until the species died out through attrition
Lastly, could have been something as simple as a disease that was limited to the speciesI'm not sure. I wasn't there 6,000 years ago!!
// (last line only)
There must have been some interbreeding. There are genetic (morphological) throwbacks here and there, and particularly in southwestern Europe - part of their old territory.
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Look At My New Grandbaby! Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:21:25pm |
FUCK!
My debit card was compromised. Bank of America declined the suspicious transactions, and I had to cancel the card.
Shit. I have an emergency card I can use until Monday. I fucking hate these thieving cocksuckers.
Sorry for the cuss words. I am PISSED.
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Floral Giraffe Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:21:34pm |
re: #481 albusteve
I had the pleasure of seeing one of these on the raod last week.
It was in "very good" shape.
Not pristine, and it looked like it was regularly driven.
V12, VROOM!
[Link: jaguarblog.net...]
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:21:57pm |
re: #487 albusteve
take the last train from Clarkesville, Frank
Clever. The song name was "Take the Last Train to Clarkesville". Good change-up, Steve.
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FrogMarch Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:22:04pm |
Lady Gaga. Her name is buzzing in the air. Love it or hate it - this video is pretty amazing.
gaga ooolalaaa.
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MandyManners Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:22:07pm |
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Floral Giraffe Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:22:07pm |
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Look At My New Grandbaby! Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:23:04pm |
re: #496 MandyManners
(((Alouette)))
How was it compromised?
I have no fucking clue, I'm just glad the BofA stopped it. And I was planning to go to the mall tomorrow.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:23:35pm |
re: #484 Sharmuta
I will tell you now this particular theory is the one scientific racists use. And it's the one the evidence leads away from as well.
Well, like I stated. It's one of several plausible theories. I don;'t see it as being "racist" that modern humans and Neanderthals were separate species that were not interfertile. I'm not saying I'm a proponent of that theory, but it's plausible
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brookly red Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:23:39pm |
re: #492 Alouette
FUCK!
My debit card was compromised. Bank of America declined the suspicious transactions, and I had to cancel the card.
Shit. I have an emergency card I can use until Monday. I fucking hate these thieving cocksuckers.
Sorry for the cuss words. I am PISSED.
good to always have some cash around...
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Floral Giraffe Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:23:59pm |
re: #492 Alouette
Thieves SUCK!
Hope you can get it resolved, simply.
Debit cards, aren't generally recommended, for this kind of reason.
{{Alouette}}
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:24:12pm |
re: #499 Alouette
I have no fucking clue, I'm just glad the BofA stopped it. And I was planning to go to the mall tomorrow.
Don't you have a mall of your own?
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Long Nics are Looonnng Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:24:49pm |
re: #499 Alouette
I have no fucking clue, I'm just glad the BofA stopped it. And I was planning to go to the mall tomorrow.
But! But! But! The mall NEEDS you!
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:24:56pm |
re: #493 Floral Giraffe
I had the pleasure of seeing one of these on the raod last week.
It was in "very good" shape.
Not pristine, and it looked like it was regularly driven.
V12, VROOM!
[Link: jaguarblog.net...]
a decent XKE...newer...I'm a street rod kinda guy...all American..get that FOREIGN SHIT OUTA HERE!...like that
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Look At My New Grandbaby! Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:25:50pm |
re: #503 Cannadian Club Akbar
Don't you have a mall of your own?
The Zionist Mall card is still safe, but we don't sell the product that I was planning to buy from JC Penney.
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Floral Giraffe Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:26:07pm |
re: #505 albusteve
a decent XKE...newer...I'm a street rod kinda guy...all American..get that FOREIGN SHIT OUTA HERE!...like that
Still, an outstanding piece of machinery.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:27:01pm |
re: #506 Alouette
The Zionist Mall card is still safe, but we don't sell the product that I was planning to buy from JC Penney.
I was trying to be a pimp...
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Dr. Shalit Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:27:38pm |
re: #481 albusteve
well said all the way around...should have kept the '66 Mustang...unless you were running guns with it or whatever
albusteve -
Couldn't afford the Insurance, Mom and Dad would NOT pay the difference.
It was Fast Dirty Fun - while it lasted. As for the Challenger, the"In-Co" more or less asked "Big Block", "Small Block," or "Slant - 6." It WAS technically "Small Block" - T/A's were rare, so they never figured it out. Pulled the same trick with a Colt Turbo a dozen or so years later.
-S-
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:27:59pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:28:00pm |
re: #495 FrogMarch
Lady Gaga. Her name is buzzing in the air. Love it or hate it - this video is pretty amazing.
gaga ooolalaaa.
Good music, but very freaky. She's got talent, but we'll need to wait for her next album to see if she's got staying power.
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brookly red Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:28:15pm |
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Floral Giraffe Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:28:46pm |
re: #505 albusteve
a decent XKE...newer...I'm a street rod kinda guy...all American..get that FOREIGN SHIT OUTA HERE!...like that
Haven't seen this one in a while, it's usually out early Sunday mornings. You can hear him rip up the highway. It's NOT a replicar...
[Link: www.paintballforum.com...]
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Sharmuta Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:29:16pm |
re: #500 sattv4u2
Well, like I stated. It's one of several plausible theories. I don;'t see it as being "racist" that modern humans and Neanderthals were separate species that were not interfertile. I'm not saying I'm a proponent of that theory, but it's plausible
No- it's not plausible. We don't share mDNA.
And yes- it is the theory used by scientific racists.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:29:19pm |
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Killgore Trout Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:29:49pm |
re: #495 FrogMarch
These people are so fucked when autotune goes out of style.
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:29:49pm |
re: #507 Floral Giraffe
Still, an outstanding piece of machinery.
it's a panty waist...no disrespect...if you want a road car this is the one...
Image: z28-camaro.jpg
this Z will blow the doors off that sissy Jag, really...that's exactly what it was built for, and it works
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John Neverbend Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:29:53pm |
re: #490 Sharmuta
No- the DNA evidence leads away from this theory, and it's the theory of racists to boot.
I found this in The Independent.
The Neanderthal Murder Mystery
It looks as though they had a rather dim view of "diversity" in those days.
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FrogMarch Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:30:26pm |
re: #512 Dark_Falcon
Good music, but very freaky. She's got talent, but we'll need to wait for her next album to see if she's got staying power.
I've never heard of her until today. So I looked her up - she's only 23.
She's got a great voice.
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brookly red Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:30:41pm |
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Killgore Trout Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:30:46pm |
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:31:08pm |
re: #515 Sharmuta
No- it's not plausible. We don't share mDNA.
And yes- it is the theory used by scientific racists.
My Wiki and your Wiki
Whats a girl to do!?!?
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:32:02pm |
re: #510 Dr. Shalit
albusteve -
Couldn't afford the Insurance, Mom and Dad would NOT pay the difference.
It was Fast Dirty Fun - while it lasted. As for the Challenger, the"In-Co" more or less asked "Big Block", "Small Block," or "Slant - 6." It WAS technically "Small Block" - T/A's were rare, so they never figured it out. Pulled the same trick with a Colt Turbo a dozen or so years later.-S-
yes...the Chevy Z28 302 was rated at 290hp...hahaha!...try 400hp...google it
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Floral Giraffe Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:32:11pm |
re: #518 albusteve
it's a panty waist...no disrespect...if you want a road car this is the one...
[Link: www.toptenz.net...]this Z will blow the doors off that sissy Jag, really...that's exactly what it was built for, and it works
Aren't we lucky to live, where these works of art, don't rust into nothing! And we get to see them on the road!
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Virginia Plain Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:32:37pm |
re: #495 FrogMarch
Lady Gaga. Her name is buzzing in the air. Love it or hate it - this video is pretty amazing.
gaga ooolalaaa.
Where the heck does she come up with the ideas for her costumes?
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MandyManners Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:32:44pm |
re: #519 John Neverbend
I found this in The Independent.
The Neanderthal Murder Mystery
It looks as though they had a rather dim view of "diversity" in those days.
HATE CRIME!
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Long Nics are Looonnng Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:33:23pm |
re: #511 sattv4u2
No,, she asquare tonight
Tomorrow ,, ARECTANGLE!
...a hat, a broach, a pterodactyl?
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brookly red Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:34:26pm |
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FrogMarch Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:34:50pm |
re: #517 Killgore Trout
These people are so fucked when autotune goes out of style.
That's why her voice sounds so perfect?
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Long Nics are Looonnng Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:35:40pm |
re: #531 FrogMarch
They can make just about anybody sound good in a studio.
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:36:32pm |
re: #514 Floral Giraffe
Haven't seen this one in a while, it's usually out early Sunday mornings. You can hear him rip up the highway. It's NOT a replicar...
[Link: www.paintballforum.com...]
now we re talking some serious trash...the most valuable American car...5.5million, was one of two Shelby Cobras...Shelby himself built them...one was wrecked and the other is owned...by me!...jus kidding...Ive seen a few out here in Abq but have no clue about their origin, that means everything value wise...anybody can buils a rep
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FrogMarch Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:37:48pm |
re: #527 Virginia Plain
Where the heck does she come up with the ideas for her costumes?
No idea. But she's into the whole pop-culture over-the-top fashion. It's like the 80's but better. or weirder. or sluttier.
or something.
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:38:01pm |
re: #524 Cannadian Club Akbar
'69 Z with 202 heads, no?
302 cubes...rated by GM at 290 hp...they lied
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Sharmuta Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:38:17pm |
re: #523 sattv4u2
Did you read any of the paper I linked?
DNA was extracted from the Neandertal-type specimen found in 1856 in western Germany. By sequencing clones from short overlapping PCR products, a hitherto unknown mitochondrial (mt) DNA sequence was
determined. Multiple controls indicate that this sequence
is endogenous to the fossil. Sequence comparisons with human mtDNA sequences, as well as phylogenetic analyses, show that the Neandertal sequence falls outside the variation of modern humans. Furthermore, the age of the common ancestor of the Neandertal and modern human mtDNAs is estimated to be four times greater than that of the common ancestor of human mtDNAs. This suggests that Neandertals went extinct without contributing mtDNA to modern humans.
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Dr. Shalit Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:38:47pm |
re: #493 Floral Giraffe
I had the pleasure of seeing one of these on the raod last week.
It was in "very good" shape.
Not pristine, and it looked like it was regularly driven.
V12, VROOM!
[Link: jaguarblog.net...]
Floral Giraffe -
V-12, with Heads by Harry Hassan? The XK-E was a PRIME VICTIM of safety and emissions regulations. Under 4 Litres of "6" was replaced by 5+ Litres of V-12 - and performance, mostly, went down.
A lovely car to own today would be a restored '61-'64 with a 4.2 Litre Chevy Trailblazer 24 Valve Straight 6, Obligatory Auto Trans, Delco Electrics and wider/better "tyres."
-S-
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:39:10pm |
re: #532 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
They can make just about anybody sound good in a studio.
Indeed. Live shows are the true test, if the performer will actually sing live (many won't). The female singers I respect the most musically are Avril Levigne and Natasha Beddingfield, both of whom never lip-synch.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:39:30pm |
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Dr. Shalit Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:39:47pm |
re: #525 albusteve
yes...the Chevy Z28 302 was rated at 290hp...hahaha!...try 400hp...google it
albusteve -
When I worked for Ford, my Plant built BOSS 302's - 'Nuff said?
-S-
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:39:49pm |
re: #526 Floral Giraffe
Aren't we lucky to live, where these works of art, don't rust into nothing! And we get to see them on the road!
indeed...ABQ is hot rod heaven...cool care are literally everywhere, especially right around where I live...lots of gearheads for neighbors
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brookly red Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:39:59pm |
re: #534 FrogMarch
No idea. But she's into the whole pop-culture over-the-top fashion. It's like the 80's but better. or weirder. or sluttier.
or something.
D. all of the above?
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brookly red Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:41:04pm |
re: #539 Cannadian Club Akbar
Wanna waste $1.6 mil?
you are my congressman, no?
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:41:27pm |
re: #537 Dr. Shalit
Floral Giraffe -
V-12, with Heads by Harry Hassan? The XK-E was a PRIME VICTIM of safety and emissions regulations. Under 4 Litres of "6" was replaced by 5+ Litres of V-12 - and performance, mostly, went down.
A lovely car to own today would be a restored '61-'64 with a 4.2 Litre Chevy Trailblazer 24 Valve Straight 6, Obligatory Auto Trans, Delco Electrics and wider/better "tyres."-S-
yup...killed the power import market...fucking feds
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Floral Giraffe Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:41:36pm |
re: #533 albusteve
now we re talking some serious trash...the most valuable American car...5.5million, was one of two Shelby Cobras...Shelby himself built them...one was wrecked and the other is owned...by me!...jus kidding...Ive seen a few out here in Abq but have no clue about their origin, that means everything value wise...anybody can buils a rep
IIRC, without searching, Carrol Shelby "discovered" a storage unit here in So.Cal, that had 8-10? bodies, assorted engines & parts in it.
They were made up into cars & auctioned off.
Seriously, there's NOTHING that growls down PCH like the couple of real Cobra's in the neighborood.
BTW, the replicars don't have the same sound...
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FrogMarch Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:41:50pm |
re: #532 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
They can make just about anybody sound good in a studio.
True. Madonna comes to mind.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:41:50pm |
re: #536 Sharmuta
Did you read any of the paper I linked?
I stated that before you linked it
from #480
humans and Neanderthals were separate species that were not interfertile'
MEANING ,, their DNAs did not and could not match!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:41:51pm |
re: #535 albusteve
302 cubes...rated by GM at 290 hp...they lied
I had a '68 Camaro, 327, 2 speed powerglide, Quadtrajet 4 BBL. The I had a '67 Camaro, 327, turbo 350 tranny with a shift kit. Heh.
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:42:22pm |
re: #539 Cannadian Club Akbar
Wanna waste $1.6 mil?
I have zero interest in foreign cars...I'm a car bigot
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FrogMarch Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:43:37pm |
Nighty all. Gonna go watch "up" and snuggle with various other creatures.
cuz baby it's cold outside.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:43:44pm |
re: #531 FrogMarch
It's why she can hit the notes. Autotune is already out of style in many circles. Pretty much anyone still obviously using it like that really can't sing.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:43:46pm |
re: #549 albusteve
I have zero interest in foreign cars...I'm a car bigot
Yea, but he puts it in a lake.
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:44:39pm |
re: #540 Dr. Shalit
albusteve -
When I worked for Ford, my Plant built BOSS 302's - 'Nuff said?
-S-
another liar...it was a fun time tho...do your own tests, produce whatever results you needed, turn it into the feds...presto!...400hp small block, gas savers...I love America
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Floral Giraffe Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:45:55pm |
re: #537 Dr. Shalit
I just get pleasure from seeing a good old, high design car on the road.
It's a treat, some of the old Mercedes around are a crak up!
And then, we have the Nash Metropolitans!
We have a gold convertible, with gold top & interior somewhere in the neighborhood...
[Link: barbersshopauto.com...]
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Sharmuta Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:46:39pm |
re: #547 sattv4u2
Yes- you said that. You followed up by telling me it was plausible. I showed you it's not.
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FrogMarch Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:46:53pm |
re: #551 Killgore Trout
It's why she can hit the notes. Autotune is already out of style in many circles. Pretty much anyone still obviously using it like that really can't sing.
aha. Thanks.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:48:12pm |
Ah wel. Overnight relief guy has arrived. Time for the long quiet drive home
Later all
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The Sanity Inspector Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:48:17pm |
I see Charles has an Elvis Costello cd in the player. Here's my favorite tune by the Elvoid:
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Floral Giraffe Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:48:22pm |
re: #541 albusteve
indeed...ABQ is hot rod heaven...cool care are literally everywhere, especially right around where I live...lots of gearheads for neighbors
Lots of gearheads here too.
And money, just to the south of here, so I get to see that too!
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:48:22pm |
re: #545 Floral Giraffe
IIRC, without searching, Carrol Shelby "discovered" a storage unit here in So.Cal, that had 8-10? bodies, assorted engines & parts in it.
They were made up into cars & auctioned off.Seriously, there's NOTHING that growls down PCH like the couple of real Cobra's in the neighborood.
BTW, the replicars don't have the same sound...
I think Bill Cosby bought that second Super Snake I told you about...he gave it back...too fast...here's a link if you care ...the pic you posted was the last one...
[Link: www.mustangblog.com...]
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:49:23pm |
re: #552 Cannadian Club Akbar
Yea, but he puts it in a lake.
I read that...unusual story...fuckin pelicans anyway
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:49:44pm |
re: #555 Sharmuta
Yes- you said that. You followed up by telling me it was plausible. I showed you it's not.
Yet there is still a school
of thought that beleives it was possible
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
Ahh ,, Science !
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brookly red Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:50:33pm |
re: #560 albusteve
I think Bill Cosby bought that second Super Snake I told you about...he gave it back...too fast...here's a link if you care ...the pic you posted was the last one...
[Link: www.mustangblog.com...]
think he did a routene bout that... 200mph IIRC
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Sharmuta Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:50:35pm |
re: #562 sattv4u2
Science follows the evidence. That racist theory is dying as more evidence pours in.
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:51:14pm |
Hello everyone. How's the weekend been so far?
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:52:38pm |
re: #548 Cannadian Club Akbar
I had a '68 Camaro, 327, 2 speed powerglide, Quadtrajet 4 BBL. The I had a '67 Camaro, 327, turbo 350 tranny with a shift kit. Heh.
now those very cars are prized rides...all of them have skyrocketed in value, but the Super Sports, RSs And Zs are off the scale...the Camaro is a very popular car
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:52:52pm |
re: #566 NJDhockeyfan
Hello everyone. How's the weekend been so far?
My favorite college team lost and my new job can bite me.
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John Neverbend Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:53:03pm |
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goddamnedfrank Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:53:20pm |
re: #495 FrogMarch
Lady Gaga. Her name is buzzing in the air. Love it or hate it - this video is pretty amazing.
gaga ooolalaaa.
That's the first video of her I've seen. Her voice, style and design choices here remind me of the best of Annie Lennox.
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:53:45pm |
re: #559 Floral Giraffe
Lots of gearheads here too.
And money, just to the south of here, so I get to see that too!
heh...we are blessed...I love that stuff
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:55:45pm |
re: #564 brookly red
think he did a routene bout that... 200mph IIRC
yup...you got it, that's the car...a 66 Shelby Cobra 427 Super Snake...whew...800hp
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Floral Giraffe Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:55:56pm |
re: #560 albusteve
Neat link! Thanks. Used to braodcast the Barret-Jackson auctions on TV here. Dad loved them. Carrol did pretty well for an "old chicken farmer" didn't he?
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:56:04pm |
re: #569 Cannadian Club Akbar
My favorite college team lost and my new job can bite me.
Sorry about your team. Congrats on the new job. What happened at the job?
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albusteve Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:57:30pm |
re: #575 Floral Giraffe
Neat link! Thanks. Used to braodcast the Barret-Jackson auctions on TV here. Dad loved them. Carrol did pretty well for an "old chicken farmer" didn't he?
he did...a real pedal to the metal American!
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Floral Giraffe Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:58:57pm |
re: #570 John Neverbend
I love this one too...
[Link: www.ultimatecarpage.com...]
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webevintage Sat, Nov 14, 2009 6:59:09pm |
re: #466 Sharmuta
What do you think happened to neanderthals?
Oh for heaven's sake people, Cylons and the survivors from BattleStar Gallactica are what happened to the Neanderthals...
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Dr. Shalit Sat, Nov 14, 2009 7:02:01pm |
re: #545 Floral Giraffe
IIRC, without searching, Carrol Shelby "discovered" a storage unit here in So.Cal, that had 8-10? bodies, assorted engines & parts in it.
They were made up into cars & auctioned off.Seriously, there's NOTHING that growls down PCH like the couple of real Cobra's in the neighborood.
BTW, the replicars don't have the same sound...
Shelby is a NOTORIOUS Fibber, generally for a Good Cause. All the major "Motorhead" Magazines tested his first Cobra Prototype - Re-Painted for every test so nobody caught on that it was not as yet in series production.
Hell, Shelby Lied to AC - saying he had Ford Engines and to Ford - saying he had AC Chassis. He did it so convincingly that both Ford AND AC came through - and the Cobra Mk. I was born.
As for "Replicars" - they have to meet current regulations. "Series Continuations" as Shelby tries to do - DO NOT. Shelby uses his position as a "manufacturer" back in the day to come up with Serial #'d Certificates of Origin - a/k/a - vehicle birth certificates to which in the 21'st Century he "completes" late 1960's/early 1970's vehicles. It is a Fraud to CA and US authorities, yet a lovable one, in so few numbers at such astronomical prices that it makes almost NO difference to overall safety and emissions.
It is more like the Shelby (Semi) Retirement Fund. Good on 'ya Carroll.
-S-
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Floral Giraffe Sat, Nov 14, 2009 7:04:31pm |
re: #580 Dr. Shalit
My Dad worked for a guy who worked for Carrol, in the pre-shelby days.
IIRC he has a pretty big reputation as a liar.
Still, he built/designed/steered a great car.
As Dad always said "For a Chicken Farmer from Texas".
LOL!
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Dr. Shalit Sat, Nov 14, 2009 7:07:47pm |
re: #581 Floral Giraffe
My Dad worked for a guy who worked for Carrol, in the pre-shelby days.
IIRC he has a pretty big reputation as a liar.
Still, he built/designed/steered a great car.
As Dad always said "For a Chicken Farmer from Texas".
LOL!
Floral Giraffe -
Remember - the Guy He FIBBED to at Ford - was Lee Iacocca!
-S-
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