Hasan’s Supervisor Warned Army in 2007

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As we learn more about Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, it’s clear that he was throwing off warning signals right and left — but nobody wanted to step up and take action about him until it was too late: Hasan’s Supervisor Warned Army In 2007.

Two years ago, a top psychiatrist at Walter Reed Army Medical Center was so concerned about what he saw as Nidal Hasan’s incompetence and reckless behavior that he put those concerns in writing. NPR has obtained a copy of the memo, the first evaluation that has surfaced from Hasan’s file.

Officials at Walter Reed sent that memo to Fort Hood this year when Hasan was transferred there.

Nevertheless, commanders still assigned Hasan — accused of killing 13 people in a mass shooting at Fort Hood on Nov. 5 — to work with some of the Army’s most troubled and vulnerable soldiers.

On May 17, 2007, Hasan’s supervisor at Walter Reed sent the memo to the Walter Reed credentials committee. It reads, “Memorandum for: Credentials Committee. Subject: CPT Nidal Hasan.” More than a page long, the document warns that: “The Faculty has serious concerns about CPT Hasan’s professionalism and work ethic. … He demonstrates a pattern of poor judgment and a lack of professionalism.” It is signed by the chief of psychiatric residents at Walter Reed, Maj. Scott Moran.

When shown the memo, two leading psychiatrists said it was so damning, it might have sunk Hasan’s career if he had applied for a job outside the Army.

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1 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:12:36am

NPR is just about the only real news out there any more. Thanks to them from bringing this memo to light.

William

2 bosforus  Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:12:43am

Is 13 dead bodies enough proof that political correctness is eroding every institution it ever even breathes on?

3 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:12:52am

When shown the memo, two leading psychiatrists said it was so damning, it might have sunk Hasan’s career if he had applied for a job outside the Army.

I'm at a loss for words. If he's that bad, we shouldn't let him near our soldiers.

4 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:14:27am

re: #3 Cannadian Club Akbar

Make that "shouldn't have let him near our soldiers."

5 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:18:18am

The progressive will go on and on denying that Hasan's action were informed by his religion...

"The memo ticks off numerous problems over the course of Hasan's training, including proselytizing to his patients. "

(from the article linked to above)

6 Obdicut  Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:18:40am

re: #2 bosforus

I think that this shows a systemic problem in the Army as well, that has nothing to do with PC. Their force needs are pretty desperate at this point.

I would rather his COs explain their reasoning, than automatically assume it was PC. Whatever it was, it was their mistake. PC doesn't wiggle fingers inside people's brains; they have to go along with it.

7 Dreader1962  Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:19:45am

I'll give you an example of personal experience with an officer that was clearly imbalanced. Read the link below; I was the NCOIC that served under CW3 Tipton in her assignment prior to the White House. She was booted from the unit because she was unsuitable. I had never worked for an officer that was so obviously incompetent and imbalanced.

Two Army officers - Two Stories

The article tries to hint at some dark conspiracy - it wasn't. Also, the article describes her as well-liked by her peers and subordinates; nothing could be further from the truth - I suppose that the reported didn't want to speak ill of the dead.

8 Athens Runaway  Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:20:24am

re: #5 Walter L. Newton

The progressive will go on and on denying that Hasan's action were informed by his religion...

"The memo ticks off numerous problems over the course of Hasan's training, including proselytizing to his patients. "

(from the article linked to above)

I think the ACLU and the rest of the "Freedom From Religion" movement's silence on this is deafening.

9 webevintage  Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:20:46am

re: #1 wlewisiii

NPR is just about the only real news out there any more. Thanks to them from bringing this memo to light.

William

Indeed.
I heard this yesterday and once again wondered why they seem to be the only ones doing the hard work on this story.

10 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:21:52am

re: #8 Athens Runaway

I think the ACLU and the rest of the "Freedom From Religion" movement's silence on this is deafening.

The left is not quiet where I come from. They are calling this a work place incident accountable to STSD.

11 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:21:58am
Moran and Pentagon spokesmen declined NPR's requests for interviews for this story. Officials at Fort Hood would not comment, either.

But sources say that when the Army sent Hasan to Fort Hood earlier this year, Walter Reed sent the damning evaluation there, too. So commanders at Fort Hood would know exactly what they were getting.

What a fuckup.

12 bosforus  Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:22:17am

re: #6 Obdicut

Indeed - I did not mean to imply PC was the sole cause, though I'm sure anyone would have a hard time defending its non-role.

13 Dreader1962  Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:24:32am

re: #7 Dreader1962

reported -- reporter

PIMF

14 Obdicut  Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:25:41am

re: #12 bosforus

Indeed - I did not mean to imply PC was the sole cause, though I'm sure anyone would have a hard time defending its non-role.

Oh, I said the first time I heard about this that it's one of those rare times when PC actually matters. Though I think it demonstrates the ignorance of PC, which actually diminishes the desire to really learn about other people's cultures and beliefs. It's more about just saying, "That's okay, whatever it is!" and moving on.

Which can be a mistake. A big one.

15 Athens Runaway  Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:25:42am

re: #10 Walter L. Newton

The left is not quiet where I come from. They are calling this a work place incident accountable to STSD.

I was referring more toward the fact that he was preaching as part of his job. If this guy was a Christian (even if he'd not massacred his brothers in arms), we'd be hearing from them left and right.

But you're right. Hasan is the world's first ever case of Pre-Traumatic Stress Disorder.

16 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:35:42am

If this happened in 07, it's Bush's fault!!!

///

17 barbarian at the gate  Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:37:09am

This is what happens when political correctness runs-amok in this country.even the army is not immune.

18 barbarian at the gate  Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:38:23am

re: #16 Mad Al-Jaffee

If this happened in 07, it's Bush's fault!!!

///

Soon they will blame everything on Bush even even though he is not president - it will be "the legacy of Bush/Cheney/Rove etc."

19 barbarian at the gate  Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:41:09am

re: #10 Walter L. Newton

The left is not quiet where I come from. They are calling this a work place incident accountable to STSD.

They are giving Hasan the benefit of the doubt that they would never give someone on the right. Think abut how Obama jumped to conclusions about the Cambridge Mass. police.

20 Dreader1962  Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:43:24am

re: #16 Mad Al-Jaffee

If this happened in 07, it's Bush's fault!!!

///

If you read the link I posted above as an example of an incompetent, imbalanced officer allowed to remain in the Army, you'll see the reporter was hinting that the White House may have murdered two officers as some sort of cover up. Simply because she worked at the White House Communications Agency and prior to that was assigned to a special assignment that she proved unsuitable for. I have direct knowledge of her and the special assignment (I worked for her there). There was no conspiracy.

21 Athens Runaway  Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:47:06am

re: #15 Athens Runaway

I forgot to close my sarcasm tag there.

22 Only The Lurker Knows  Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:47:27am

Robert Gates to announce Pentagon probe of Ft. Hood shooting rampage

Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates this afternoon will announce the start of a sweeping Pentagon review of events leading up to the Ft. Hood rampage, a probe that will examine whether military officials could have taken more aggressive preemptive action against the accused killer and, if so, why they didn't, officials said today.

23 Dreader1962  Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:51:49am

re: #22 Bubblehead II

Robert Gates to announce Pentagon probe of Ft. Hood shooting rampage

Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates this afternoon will announce the start of a sweeping Pentagon review of events leading up to the Ft. Hood rampage, a probe that will examine whether military officials could have taken more aggressive preemptive action against the accused killer and, if so, why they didn't, officials said today.

I always dislike these 'probes' that tend to divert the blame from the perpetrator and do a 'Monday Morning Quarterback' job. It winds up trying to prove that 'someone should have known' that he would do this heinous act. I have not seen any memo that indicated that Hasan was likely to go on a shooting rampage against his fellow soldiers. Incompetence and inappropriate injection of religion seem to be what his superiors were concerned with.

24 nines09  Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:51:55am

Asleep at the wheel once again? Not only was he dangerous,HUH? he sucked too? That, my boy, is leadership. Fantastic.

25 borgcube  Thu, Nov 19, 2009 10:00:25am

re: #6 Obdicut

I think that this shows a systemic problem in the Army as well, that has nothing to do with PC. Their force needs are pretty desperate at this point.

I would rather his COs explain their reasoning, than automatically assume it was PC. Whatever it was, it was their mistake. PC doesn't wiggle fingers inside people's brains; they have to go along with it.

Agreed. PC doesn't wiggle fingers inside people's brains, it rams fingers up their rear ends to make them comply, remain silent, or face termination and/or classes teaching them how to avoid having the fingers rammed up their rear ends again.

This is perhaps the clearest slam-dunk case illustrating PC run amok in our nation's history. And yet, even this is still apparently up for debate. PC strikes yet again.

26 SixDegrees  Thu, Nov 19, 2009 10:09:49am

re: #23 Dreader1962

I always dislike these 'probes' that tend to divert the blame from the perpetrator and do a 'Monday Morning Quarterback' job. It winds up trying to prove that 'someone should have known' that he would do this heinous act. I have not seen any memo that indicated that Hasan was likely to go on a shooting rampage against his fellow soldiers. Incompetence and inappropriate injection of religion seem to be what his superiors were concerned with.

I also agree with whoever stated that any such hearings ought to wait until the authorities have concluded their own criminal investigations. Might have been 0bama. Whoever it was, they're right.

27 Surabaya Stew  Thu, Nov 19, 2009 10:12:21am

At best, PC is a minor factor in Hasan's ability to be promoted despite glaring inabilities. Certainly, his supervisors who F***ed up would like to use PC as an excuse to throw attention off their failure to get rid of this guy beforehand. Let us not let it distract from from the investigations that need to be carried out.

IMHO, the primary reason that the Army let him stay was because they felt they had too much time and resources invested in him (think all those years of college tuition they paid for him), plus they were short of clinical psychologists in the field. On paper, he was exactly what the Army needed; they felt a need to get out of him a minimum of when they put into him. Therefore, the system which usually weeds out bad apples was caught up in a self-perceived need to cultivate it's fruit, no matter how poisonous said fruit might turn out to be.

28 Cato the Elder  Thu, Nov 19, 2009 11:04:59am

Everyone around Moran seems to have been a maroon.

29 Dreader1962  Thu, Nov 19, 2009 11:12:59am

re: #28 Cato the Elder

Everyone around Moran seems to have been a maroon.

No, as I've said before, this is typical of those who are incompetent in the Army. They get passed along until they create a 'major incident'. Of course, the typical incident does not involve the officer slaughtering enlisted soldiers.

That's what I find missing in most of the coverage - they very idea of an officer attacking subordinates is extremely rare. I can't think of a previous incident of this at all.

30 What, me worry?  Thu, Nov 19, 2009 11:20:40am

re: #27 Surabaya Stew

At best, PC is a minor factor in Hasan's ability to be promoted despite glaring inabilities. Certainly, his supervisors who F***ed up would like to use PC as an excuse to throw attention off their failure to get rid of this guy beforehand. Let us not let it distract from from the investigations that need to be carried out.

IMHO, the primary reason that the Army let him stay was because they felt they had too much time and resources invested in him (think all those years of college tuition they paid for him), plus they were short of clinical psychologists in the field. On paper, he was exactly what the Army needed; they felt a need to get out of him a minimum of when they put into him. Therefore, the system which usually weeds out bad apples was caught up in a self-perceived need to cultivate it's fruit, no matter how poisonous said fruit might turn out to be.

I hadn't thought of it, but I think you're right. This must happen quite often, and you know, poor performances by soldiers generally does not mean they will go postal. In fact, it's quite rare.

However, what really was the red flag was the proselytizing. I'd like to know the context of that. What did he say? When or how did he say it? There is certainly some rhetoric that would stand out as anti-American and dangerous particularly uttered by an enlisted person.

31 Buck  Thu, Nov 19, 2009 11:25:13am

Now we know why they thought it was a good idea to send him to Afghanistan...

/s

32 borgcube  Thu, Nov 19, 2009 11:36:23am

re: #30 marjoriemoon

Proselytizing aside, how about the fact that he constantly yelped to his superiors about bringing war crimes charges against the soldiers he was counseling? Yeah, he really did that too. Reg flag number 634 with this 7th century aficionado.

If I was his superior and saw that PP presentation alone, he would have been in one of his own rubber rooms in short order.

People are dead and families are forever changed. This whole episode is inexcusable and the PC crap surrounding it even now is perhaps worse than the PC crap that allowed it to happen in the first place.

33 yenta-fada  Thu, Nov 19, 2009 12:14:46pm

I have family in the military and they (in whispers) flat out blame PC policies for the deaths at Fort Hood. Calling this "jihad" when it is a word the Pentagon is not allow to use in public would be a career breaker. If you call a spider a "tree", it'll still bite you if it is poisonous and you rub up against it.

34 Obdicut  Thu, Nov 19, 2009 12:36:25pm

re: #25 borgcube

Agreed. PC doesn't wiggle fingers inside people's brains, it rams fingers up their rear ends to make them comply, remain silent, or face termination and/or classes teaching them how to avoid having the fingers rammed up their rear ends again.

This is perhaps the clearest slam-dunk case illustrating PC run amok in our nation's history. And yet, even this is still apparently up for debate. PC strikes yet again.

But it doesn't ram fingers up peoples asses. People can stand up to it, and often do so successfully. I have no idea if the culture of PC, as you're alleging, is prevalent in the Army, and in these particular areas.

I do know that the Air Force, especially, has had an open 'problem' of Christian proselytization, of the evangelical variety, and so there may have been precedent set of not disallowing something like this.

Though, as I said, I do think this reflects a certain kind of PC that doesn't encourage tolerance, but instead blindness; instead of asking people to actively respect each other's cultures, we're asked to ignore any display of individuality, because interpretation of it might be offensive or we might get it wrong. That's very different from "Say this", it's "Ignore this".

I think it's much more dangerous, and I think it's quite different from the vast majority of what's called "PC", a lot of which is simply politeness.

PC is not an excuse I would consider valid to hide behind, for anyone responsible for this guy.

35 Pass The Moonbaticide  Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:10:23pm
Nobody wanted to step up and take action about him until it was too late

Largely because nobody wanted action taken about them for Islamophobia, etc.
This PC crap is ruining us all.

36 Dr. Shalit  Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:21:09pm

"...AND?... This is surprising? I think NOT. The US Army is Politically Correct as is the rest of the US Government. They have to be, it is POLICY.

-S-

37 Macha  Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:28:04pm

I don't think that PC is the whole story with this guy. The medical community is lousy about keeping the incompetents weeded out. BTW, I am a retired nurse whose specialty was psychiatry. I've seen doctors in full blown psychosis who were clearly a danger to their patients and the administration wouldn't suspend their privileges. It is probably no different in the Army.The chief resident, who had the cojones to actually write this guy up, probably caught hell from his superiors, who obviously did nothing. There may have been a pc basis to some of their reasoning, but the old boy, keep it all under the rug, supervising MD's have a lot to answer for. This guy broke so many ethical rules it is appalling.

38 Curt  Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:04:08pm

re: #34 Obdicut

But it doesn't ram fingers up peoples asses. People can stand up to it, and often do so successfully. I have no idea if the culture of PC, as you're alleging, is prevalent in the Army, and in these particular areas.

Nope...and here you go, with a trend established a few days ago: "I have no idea about the subject, but I'll feel free to forge ahead and declare the problem."


I do know that the Air Force, especially, has had an open 'problem' of Christian proselytization, of the evangelical variety, and so there may have been precedent set of not disallowing something like this.

They did, they told the people using scripture on their emails to knock it off, and those who did a little preaching in classes at USAFA, to stop and they did. How was it a Air Force wide problem? "Has" is wrong...that's a few years old news now. But, if you say it enough, despite no reports otherwise, people might be inclined to believe you, who...I confessed you didn't know about the difference between civilian and military justice practices a few days ago. Have you worn a uniform? If so, then there is a possibility you have a valid view of current active duty issues. If you haven't might you consider not projecting your ways you think the military should conduct their business as the way it is being done/handled/processed?


Though, as I said, I do think this reflects a certain kind of PC that doesn't encourage tolerance, but instead blindness; instead of asking people to actively respect each other's cultures, we're asked to ignore any display of individuality, because interpretation of it might be offensive or we might get it wrong. That's very different from "Say this", it's "Ignore this".

Have you personally sat through such training within the DoD? How about have you lived in the environment? Just which lecture tells people to ignore individuality? Make up what you want, but the military actually understands individuality. If you don't think so, then you haven't had the requisite experience to constructively comment.


I think it's much more dangerous, and I think it's quite different from the vast majority of what's called "PC", a lot of which is simply politeness.

Political "correctness" means it's political in nature. The nature of politics is to "transmogrify" the situation/circumstances for political advantage, ergo, a moving target.

Polite and decent behavior isn't driven by politics, it's driven by a well mannered society, which sometimes has to say things like "Take a shower," "do your homework," "work and I'll pay you." On top of that, it's founded on "treat your neighbor as yourself."


PC is not an excuse I would consider valid to hide behind, for anyone responsible for this guy.

There are already reports coming out that people specifically stated they wouldn't fire him because they feared the backlash (how's that irony for you?), because it is real and you know, your next rating may just, well, make you "non-competitive" for your next promotion. Nothing you can put your finger on, but...it does happen when you fall from grace.

What would be the appropriate excuse for not hammering a Muslim, particularly when those evil Christians have been told, to stop putting taglines referencing the Bible? Yep, huge threat to national security, they were. They got hammered. A general was admonished for speaking in a Church and stating his opinion about the fight in Iraq, using the term evil in a Biblical sense.

You make sweeping statements about how things should be, and lapse into how things did/did not happen. Are you an investigative reporter, or just someone who has an opinion? Opinions are fine, better when you present your opinion as opinion and not as facts.

39 BethesdaDog  Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:12:05pm

I'd still like to know where this guy is licensed to practice medicine. I couldn't find him among licensed physicians in Maryland.

40 infidelight  Sat, Nov 21, 2009 6:46:23pm

[Link: www.kfi640.com...]

Look for broadcasts labeled Ft. Hood to get a military man's unvarnished commentary on the perpetrator and his jihad. Bryan has another show on the same station called "The Dark Secret Place" that's pretty cool as well.

EXCELLENT info from someone that's not afraid to talk about reality.


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