Here’s a terrifically weird video for singer Charlotte Gainsbourg’s new song with Beck, directed by Keith Schofield. The iTunes Store has the single; the album comes out early next year.
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Stanghazi Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:25:55pm |
HA! Got to watch several times over to see everything. Very cool.
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MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:27:05pm |
The missiles hit a house owned by a local tribesman just after midnight in Shana Khuwara village in North Waziristan, said the officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk to the media.
Ahmed Noor Wazir, who witnessed the attack, said rescuers pulled three dead bodies and four badly wounded men from the rubble of the house, which was being used by Taliban militants.
SNIP
No wedding party?
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shutdown Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:27:58pm |
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albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:28:31pm |
herky jerky for me...funny, that only happens here at LGF...any other vids work fine...I 'm being punished
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MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:28:50pm |
re: #4 imp_62
No, it will turn out out have been a UN school.
Filled with orphans. And, kittens and puppies.
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albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:29:12pm |
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borgcube Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:30:08pm |
Like it. Must have been fun to make. OK guys, let's raid the thrift store and slap some stuff together. You over there, here, take this giant plastic walnut and look confused. Perfect! It's a wrap.
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Guanxi88 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:30:11pm |
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Ben Hur Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:30:30pm |
re: #3 MandyManners
SNIP
No wedding party?
They weren't Mirandized.
Extra judicial assassinations are a war crime.
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shutdown Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:30:31pm |
re: #6 MandyManners
Filled with orphans. And, kittens and puppies.
Filled with munitions planted there by the IDF.
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Ben Hur Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:31:01pm |
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albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:31:07pm |
another Heaven...
from Tattoo You...cool song
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MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:31:32pm |
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albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:31:57pm |
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MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:32:01pm |
re: #9 Guanxi88
Where was the f*cking warrant?
It's okay. Holder assured us they would be found guilty.
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MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:32:28pm |
re: #10 Ben Hur
They weren't Mirandized.
Extra judicial assassinations are a war crime.
Let's arrest the drone.
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MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:32:53pm |
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wrenchwench Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:32:57pm |
re: #5 albusteve
herky jerky for me...funny, that only happens here at LGF...any other vids work fine...I 'm being punished
It was jerky for me until I clicked the "HD is on" button so it said "HD is off." Then it was smooth. Still kinda creepy, though, especially the ax.
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Ben Hur Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:33:06pm |
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MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:33:52pm |
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shutdown Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:33:54pm |
re: #17 MandyManners
It's okay. Holder assured us they would be found guilty.
And the President has assured us KSM will be executed. Bummer he didn't wait until after the trial to say that, though.
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MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:34:55pm |
re: #23 imp_62
And the President has assured us KSM will be executed. Bummer he didn't wait until after the trial to say that, though. [Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]
Let's hope one juror doesn't want to piss off BHO.
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Diamond Bullet Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:35:21pm |
Beck's music is weird, but not as weird as the fact that he's a second-generation Scientologist.
[Link: www.cracked.com...]
While he never came out about his beliefs until 2005, Beck is actually a second-generation Scientologist; there are a multitude of conspiracy theories online that both he and his record label tried to conceal his Scientologist leanings for most of his career. Clearly the label didn't want anybody to think that Beck, a 100-pound Fraggle who writes acoustic guitar raps about plastic eyeballs spray-painting vegetables, was weird or anything.
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albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:35:34pm |
re: #17 MandyManners
It's okay. Holder assured us they would be found guilty.
Holder is getting his ass kicked by the Senate Judiciary Committee...
[Link: corner.nationalreview.com...]
he's coming off as a real rube...this whole thing really stinks of vindictive politics
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shutdown Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:35:53pm |
re: #24 MandyManners
Let's hope one juror doesn't want to piss off BHO.
A remake of Twelve Angry Men is on the horizon.
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Ben Hur Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:36:04pm |
(warning: WHAT HAS BEEN SEEN, CANNOT BE UNSEEN!)
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borgcube Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:36:47pm |
re: #18 MandyManners
Good thing the person controlling the drone from Florida isn't under the care of Dr. Hasan. Hasan would most likely try to have war crimes charges filed as he did with his other patients. No red flag there. Nope. Move along.
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shutdown Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:37:17pm |
re: #25 Diamond Bullet
Beck's music is weird, but not as weird as the fact that he's a second-generation Scientologist.
[Link: www.cracked.com...]
Haha. For a moment, I thought you referring to Glenn Beck. Sadly, the post made some sense to me read that way.
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MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:37:19pm |
re: #26 albusteve
Holder is getting his ass kicked by the Senate Judiciary Committee...
[Link: corner.nationalreview.com...]he's coming off as a real rube...this whole thing really stinks of vindictive politics
And, a noob.
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Ben Hur Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:37:25pm |
re: #23 imp_62
And the President has assured us KSM will be executed. Bummer he didn't wait until after the trial to say that, though. [Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]
KSM will not have a fair trial, no matter what the outcome.
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albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:37:27pm |
Belinda Carlisle...more Heaven, maybe the kids will dig this one
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MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:38:02pm |
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MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:38:35pm |
re: #29 borgcube
Good thing the person controlling the drone from Florida isn't under the care of Dr. Hasan. Hasan would most likely try to have war crimes charges filed as he did with his other patients. No red flag there. Nope. Move along.
I wonder if he told any patient that the patient was a killer.
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shutdown Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:39:05pm |
re: #32 Ben Hur
KSM will not have a fair trial, no matter what the outcome.
The civil legal system is not really set up for this kind of trial. Nor is the military legal system, for that manner. That is the reason a special tribunal had to be established to try Nazi war crimes.
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shutdown Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:40:05pm |
re: #34 MandyManners
I hope it's an all-woman jury.
That is on TV every day. It is called "The View". ;)
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Guanxi88 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:40:06pm |
re: #33 albusteve
Belinda Carlisle...more Heaven, maybe the kids will dig this one
Everyone is trying
To get to a bar.
The name of the bar
The bar is called Heaven>
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borgcube Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:40:41pm |
re: #35 MandyManners
And was to burn in hell with hot oil poured down his throat for eternity. Yeah, he did.
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MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:42:04pm |
re: #41 borgcube
And was to burn in hell with hot oil poured down his throat for eternity. Yeah, he did.
He said that to patients? I thought he said that particular bit to his peers.
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Guanxi88 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:44:20pm |
re: #41 borgcube
And was to burn in hell with hot oil poured down his throat for eternity. Yeah, he did.
[Link: www.dallasnews.com...]
[Link: abcnews.go.com...]
Captain Surman, who was scheduled to be deployed to Afghanistan with Hasan on Nov. 2 told investigators that Hasan had both social and academic issues in his medical training. She said that on one occasion, Hasan told her she was an infidel who would be "ripped to shreds" and "burn in hell" because she was not Muslim.
...
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borgcube Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:44:32pm |
re: #43 MandyManners
Sorry, I got confused with that nicety and his you must convert or die shtick. With that said, do you doubt for a moment he said things even worse to his patients?
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Charles Johnson Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:45:26pm |
"I'm not that ... strong a swimmer."
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:45:58pm |
re: #45 Guanxi88
[Link: www.dallasnews.com...]
[Link: abcnews.go.com...]
Captain Surman, who was scheduled to be deployed to Afghanistan with Hasan on Nov. 2 told investigators that Hasan had both social and academic issues in his medical training. She said that on one occasion, Hasan told her she was an infidel who would be "ripped to shreds" and "burn in hell" because she was not Muslim.
...
Chicks love it when you tell them that.
/
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albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:46:28pm |
re: #36 imp_62
The civil legal system is not really set up for this kind of trial. Nor is the military legal system, for that manner. That is the reason a special tribunal had to be established to try Nazi war crimes.
Andrew McCarthy has been following the Senate hearings on this...it's an unbelievable cluster fuck...read the links and go to the NRO page to check out the rest...Holder is a super idiot...this NYC thing is a real bust, in no way can it be justified
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borgcube Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:47:26pm |
re: #45 Guanxi88
Hmmm...but she didn't say anything earlier to anyone? And if she did, nothing was still done about it? I wonder why? Hmmm, such a mystery there. She must have forgotten. Along with everyone else. Just a coincidence. Move along.
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MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:47:37pm |
re: #46 borgcube
Sorry, I got confused with that nicety and his you must convert or die shtick. With that said, do you doubt for a moment he said things even worse to his patients?
If so, did the patients raise hell?
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albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:47:52pm |
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Guanxi88 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:48:22pm |
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lawhawk Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:48:26pm |
re: #24 MandyManners
And Junior Gotti is about to get a mistrial because the jury is deadlocked.
That would be the fourth mistrial actually.
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shutdown Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:48:38pm |
Ok, time to see what the ruckus downstairs is all about. Later, Lizards.
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albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:48:46pm |
re: #42 Sharmuta
I like Beck's hair better when it's a little longer.
he needs more rouge, maybe his base is wrong
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borgcube Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:49:42pm |
re: #51 MandyManners
If so, did the patients raise hell?
I think they'd already been there and back. They deserve/deserved so much better from us.
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albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:50:14pm |
re: #44 wrenchwench
More Heaven.
shit!...I forgot about that one...the coolest song they ever did!...bumpy and rhythmic...I dance!
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Diamond Bullet Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:52:29pm |
re: #43 MandyManners
He said that to patients? I thought he said that particular bit to his peers.
Boy, that contagious pre-PTSD sure works fast, doesn't it? And it's so virulent he got infected with it despite the fact that his position was primarily academic and he rarely interacted with patients. And when he did, he actually did things that might set off THEIR actual PTSD.
[Link: www.npr.org...]
According to the memo, Hasan hardly did any work: He saw only 30 patients in 38 weeks. Sources at Walter Reed say most psychiatrists see at least 10 times that many patients. When Hasan was supposed to be on call for emergencies, he didn't even answer the phone.
...
What those soldiers need, she says, is a psychiatrist they can trust completely — not a therapist who fails to show up and abandons his patients.
"This kind of behavior could, in fact, set off a stress reaction" in a patient, she says. "It could be a trigger to a post-traumatic stress reaction."
In other words, he was harming his (few) patients long before he just started shooting everyone. And the media STILL tried to make him the victim.
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MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:53:33pm |
re: #45 Guanxi88
[Link: www.dallasnews.com...]
[Link: abcnews.go.com...]
Captain Surman, who was scheduled to be deployed to Afghanistan with Hasan on Nov. 2 told investigators that Hasan had both social and academic issues in his medical training. She said that on one occasion, Hasan told her she was an infidel who would be "ripped to shreds" and "burn in hell" because she was not Muslim.
...
The second won't open for me so I don't know if Surman reported this attrocious behavior to her superiors. Did she?
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Guanxi88 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:54:37pm |
re: #60 MandyManners
The second won't open for me so I don't know if Surman reported this attrocious behavior to her superiors. Did she?
Investigators won't comment on that, and the article doesn't indicate.
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MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:54:41pm |
re: #54 lawhawk
And Junior Gotti is about to get a mistrial because the jury is deadlocked.
That would be the fourth mistrial actually.
I hope the state doesn't throw in the towel.
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wrenchwench Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:56:08pm |
re: #47 Charles
"I'm not that ... strong a swimmer."
Is this what comes up when you google "weird shit"? Or is it, "weird shit+funny"?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:56:17pm |
(*peeks in the door, seeing if it's safe*)
Uh... dudes?
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MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:56:24pm |
re: #57 borgcube
I think they'd already been there and back. They deserve/deserved so much better from us.
The first article Guanxi linked stated that the military wants to re-evaluate his patients. That's gonna' be tough for them.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:56:49pm |
re: #65 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
(*peeks in the door, seeing if it's safe*)
Uh... dudes?
Yer safe. And among friends.
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MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:57:19pm |
re: #59 Diamond Bullet
In other words, he was harming his (few) patients long before he just started shooting everyone. And the media STILL tried to make him the victim.
Well, thank goodness he was a lazy bastard.
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albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:57:49pm |
re: #63 MandyManners
I hope the state doesn't throw in the towel.
this thing has got to be stopped...BO needs to reverse this decision...the background on this duo venue a friggin mess...it's so outrageous that there must be some other motive hidden in the dirt...read it
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:57:56pm |
re: #67 Cannadian Club Akbar
WHA'S UP! WOO HOO!
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brookly red Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:58:07pm |
re: #65 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
(*peeks in the door, seeing if it's safe*)
Uh... dudes?
awww man, we just finished the pie...
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wrenchwench Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:58:16pm |
re: #61 albusteve
Wrenchwench wins a cookie!...thanks for that
My browser is set to accept cookies...
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MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:58:44pm |
re: #59 Diamond Bullet
In other words, he was harming his (few) patients long before he just started shooting everyone. And the media STILL tried to make him the victim.
From Guanxi's first link:
"I heard he was not one you wanted to go to" because he didn't finish his work promptly, Meehan said. "Apparently the reason it took so long is he was turning it over to legal."
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MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:59:23pm |
re: #62 Guanxi88
Investigators won't comment on that, and the article doesn't indicate.
This is a clusterfuck on many different levels.
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Kragar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:59:27pm |
re: #73 MandyManners
From Guanxi's first link:
"I heard he was not one you wanted to go to" because he didn't finish his work promptly, Meehan said. "Apparently the reason it took so long is he was turning it over to legal."
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MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:00:01pm |
re: #69 albusteve
this thing has got to be stopped...BO needs to reverse this decision...the background on this duo venue a friggin mess...it's so outrageous that there must be some other motive hidden in the dirt...read it
Ummm...I was talking about Junior Gotti.
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albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:00:31pm |
re: #47 Charles
"I'm not that ... strong a swimmer."
pretty funny...I think that one guy was Mark Spitz
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MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:01:31pm |
re: #69 albusteve
this thing has got to be stopped...BO needs to reverse this decision...the background on this duo venue a friggin mess...it's so outrageous that there must be some other motive hidden in the dirt...read it
Ummm...I was talking about Junior Gotti.
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albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:02:54pm |
re: #72 wrenchwench
My browser is set to accept cookies...
talkin those big ass, frisbee sized, grandma cookies
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Kragar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:03:00pm |
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albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:03:28pm |
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RogueOne Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:03:41pm |
I thought I had to come home and do some homework, luckily I was wrong.
To continue on my DUI line of thinking, here's one that deserved her arrest. The wife of Sen. Lugar (IN) got her DUI last evening:
[Link: www.wishtv.com...]
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ryannon Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:04:05pm |
re: #37 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
The bar is called Heaven.
In that case, I'll have one of these:
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albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:04:27pm |
re: #82 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
in bed.
last night started out with bunnies or whatever...you can never tell, one should be armed at all waking moments
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MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:05:34pm |
re: #84 RogueOne
I thought I had to come home and do some homework, luckily I was wrong.
To continue on my DUI line of thinking, here's one that deserved her arrest. The wife of Sen. Lugar (IN) got her DUI last evening:
[Link: www.wishtv.com...]
She's 76!
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filetandrelease Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:05:49pm |
Soldiers have been ordered to issue battlefield Miranda rights to captured enemy combatants
I just read that, please tell me it isn't true?
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albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:06:11pm |
re: #84 RogueOne
I thought I had to come home and do some homework, luckily I was wrong.
To continue on my DUI line of thinking, here's one that deserved her arrest. The wife of Sen. Lugar (IN) got her DUI last evening:
[Link: www.wishtv.com...]
he looks like he just hit the bong
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freetoken Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:06:22pm |
Alongside the anti-vaxxers, when it comes to kookery, is the magic-thinking crowd.
People who bestow upon certain foods magical powers.
Moldovan soldiers given onions to fight swine flu
Moldova's army is feeding its soldiers onions and garlic to help them ward off swine flu.
Defense Ministry chief doctor Col. Sergiu Vasislita says about 0.9 ounces of onions and 0.5 ounces of garlic will be added to each soldier's daily diet. That roughly corresponds to a small onion and a couple of garlic cloves.
[...]
About 6,500 troops serve in the army of Moldova, a small former Soviet republic bordering Romania and Ukraine.
Well, I guess if it works for vampires and werewolves then it should be good for the flu too, yes?
Not just in Eastern Europe...
On Nutrition: Wise food choices can help protect against flu
[...] Vaccinations are one response to the threat of the flu, but they are far from the only one. You can take a number of steps to keep your immune system strong, so you'll be ready if one or 100 of these pathogens come knocking at your door.
[...]
Functional foods first: Functional foods provide health benefits beyond basic nutrition. Mushrooms are a perfect example. [...]
Whey protein is another functional food that's been getting accolades in the nutritional press for a few years. [...]
When the bugs come knocking: When the first sniffle does show up in my family, I reach for the elderberry syrup or extract. [...]
Don't Forget the Garlic: The next time you feel a cold coming on, another terrific resource is garlic, which both antiviral and immune-stimulating properties. [...]
A Final Word: There's simply no overstating the importance of a good night's sleep. Sleep deprivation can mean more than just drowsiness in the morning, it can also lower your immune response, elevate your stress hormones, and make a bad day feel so much worse.
There is no doubt that diet is critical for good health, but to ascribe to specific foods magical properties is simply a hold-over from medieval days. In the last article quoted though only the last paragraph has direct bearing on an influenza infected person's immediate ability to combat the disease.
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MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:06:26pm |
re: #86 albusteve
last night started out with bunnies or whatever...you can never tell, one should be armed at all waking moments
*whack*
I hate bunnies.
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MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:06:42pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:06:52pm |
re: #88 filetandrelease
So much for warning shots.
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MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:07:04pm |
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brookly red Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:07:29pm |
re: #88 filetandrelease
I just read that, please tell me it isn't true?
and if they don't speak english?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:08:50pm |
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badger1970 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:08:54pm |
re: #96 brookly red
Read the killer joke to them, in German
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Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:08:56pm |
re: #88 filetandrelease
I just read that, please tell me it isn't true?
I'm pretty sure it's a half truth. It's actually been going on for a long time. However it's only in very rare and specific circumstances when there's a possibility that a detainee could be turned over to US civilian authority.
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MrSilverDragon Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:09:01pm |
re: #96 brookly red
and if they don't speak english?
Then they don't deserve being Mirandized.
/I can't enough emphasize the sarcasm in the preceeding comment.
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albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:09:29pm |
re: #96 brookly red
and if they don't speak english?
these boobs have been watching too much television
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ryannon Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:10:37pm |
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MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:10:41pm |
re: #97 Cannadian Club Akbar
Yes. With no admission of guilt.
Isn't apologizing for it an admission?
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albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:10:53pm |
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brookly red Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:11:27pm |
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MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:11:38pm |
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albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:11:44pm |
re: #99 Killgore Trout
I'm pretty sure it's a half truth. It's actually been going on for a long time. However it's only in very rare and specific circumstances when there's a possibility that a detainee could be turned over to US civilian authority.
detainee?...words
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:11:53pm |
re: #104 MandyManners
Isn't apologizing for it an admission?
Apology was for the accident. Nothing about drinking. Plus, if she didn't blow, could get reduced to careless driving.
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MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:12:04pm |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:12:26pm |
re: #109 Cannadian Club Akbar
Actually reckless driving, my bad.
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albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:12:43pm |
re: #106 brookly red
it was a baby sloth IIRC...
I knew that...but bunnies enhances the turnaround into a brawl
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MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:13:07pm |
re: #109 Cannadian Club Akbar
Apology was for the accident. Nothing about drinking. Plus, if she didn't blow, could get reduced to careless driving.
How else could she be charged with DUI if she didn't blow?
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SixDegrees Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:13:45pm |
re: #26 albusteve
Holder is getting his ass kicked by the Senate Judiciary Committee...
[Link: corner.nationalreview.com...]he's coming off as a real rube...this whole thing really stinks of vindictive politics
Well, he's getting it kicked by the author of the article, but I don't see where any of the Committee members actually raised any objections. That, in fact, would be surprising, given that it's controlled by Democrats who aren't (yet) willing to openly criticize the Administration.
With any luck, that will follow.
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brookly red Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:13:47pm |
re: #113 MandyManners
How else could she be charged with DUI if she didn't blow?
that just dosen't sound right...
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RogueOne Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:14:01pm |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:14:09pm |
re: #113 MandyManners
How else could she be charged with DUI if she didn't blow?
Video evidence. Red eyes, smells like booze, fails field test, etc.
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cliffster Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:14:12pm |
re: #111 Cannadian Club Akbar
Actually reckless driving, my bad.
If Careless Driving were the same as Reckless Driving, there'd be a lot fewer people on the roads.
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cliffster Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:14:49pm |
re: #113 MandyManners
How else could she be charged with DUI if she didn't blow?
I thought that's how you got out of a DUI?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:15:38pm |
re: #120 cliffster
I thought that's how you got out of a DUI?
Yes, but in Florida, you don't blow, you lose your DL for 18 months.
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Kragar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:16:08pm |
Roger Corman Receives Honorary Oscar
Legendary B-movie director/producer Roger Corman, who has over 100 low-budget horror movies to his name with titles like Attack of the Crab Monsters and Attack of the Giant Leeches, did the unthinkable on Saturday: he received an Academy Award.
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MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:16:16pm |
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albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:16:26pm |
re: #115 SixDegrees
Well, he's getting it kicked by the author of the article, but I don't see where any of the Committee members actually raised any objections. That, in fact, would be surprising, given that it's controlled by Democrats who aren't (yet) willing to openly criticize the Administration.
With any luck, that will follow.
McCarthy prosecuted the '93 Twin Tower bombers...read the other updates...Kyl got pretty rough with him
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MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:17:00pm |
re: #118 Cannadian Club Akbar
I'm gonna' drop this rope.
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brookly red Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:17:06pm |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:17:15pm |
Lead guy from the show Burn Notice got charged with DUI in Miami. He didn't blow.
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albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:18:12pm |
re: #119 cliffster
If Careless Driving were the same as Reckless Driving, there'd be a lot fewer people on the roads.
reckless driving in MI used to be a very serious rap
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albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:20:22pm |
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cliffster Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:20:23pm |
re: #128 albusteve
reckless driving in MI used to be a very serious rap
You mean it's not now? I thought pretty much everywhere you lost your license for a good chunk of time, paid a good fine, and maybe even did a few days in county for multiple offenses. It's mostly the "we can't/don't want to prosecute DUI" bucket.
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avanti Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:21:07pm |
re: #45 Guanxi88
[Link: www.dallasnews.com...]
[Link: abcnews.go.com...]
-snip-
She said that on one occasion, Hasan told her she was an infidel who would be "ripped to shreds" and "burn in hell" because she was not Muslim....
I've been told told I face much the same fate for not accepting Christ. Nothing new there.
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RogueOne Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:22:13pm |
re: #121 Cannadian Club Akbar
Yes, but in Florida, you don't blow, you lose your DL for 18 months.
same in indiana. I got pulled over coming out of a bar. I went in to eat dinner with some friends and had nothing to drink but coke. As I'm about to exit the lot I see the cop parked across the street so I come to a complete stop and used my signal to make a right turn. As I pulled out I barely tapped the curb with the side of my tire, the cop flips on his lights and pulls me over. I was PISSED, It almost ended with a tasing.
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albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:22:52pm |
if not for the known actors and higher budgets, over half the crap Hollywood puts out would be considered B movies...Titanic comes to mind...my daughter made me take her to that awful POS
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Ben G. Hazi Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:22:56pm |
re: #7 albusteve
midnight at the oasis
Loves me some Maria Muldaur...
/got turned on to her by Art Bell a long time ago...
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:23:03pm |
re: #132 RogueOne
same in indiana. I got pulled over coming out of a bar. I went in to eat dinner with some friends and had nothing to drink but coke. As I'm about to exit the lot I see the cop parked across the street so I come to a complete stop and used my signal to make a right turn. As I pulled out I barely tapped the curb with the side of my tire, the cop flips on his lights and pulls me over. I was PISSED, It almost ended with a tasing.
In Florida, it's called entrapment.
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cliffster Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:23:26pm |
re: #133 albusteve
if not for the known actors and higher budgets, over half the crap Hollywood puts out would be considered B movies...Titanic comes to mind...my daughter made me take her to that awful POS
You really think so? Awesome. I thought I was all alone in that belief.
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albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:24:19pm |
re: #130 cliffster
You mean it's not now? I thought pretty much everywhere you lost your license for a good chunk of time, paid a good fine, and maybe even did a few days in county for multiple offenses. It's mostly the "we can't/don't want to prosecute DUI" bucket.
I don't live there anymore...but, yes, there was often jail time involved
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MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:24:36pm |
re: #132 RogueOne
If you had been drunk and the cop had ignored and you went on to kill someone,...
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RogueOne Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:25:17pm |
re: #135 Cannadian Club Akbar
In Florida, it's called entrapment.
The cop told me he pulled me over for weaving. I explained, not at all politely, that I couldn't have been swerving since I didn't make it an entire vehicle length out of the lot before he pulled me over. When he asked me "how much have you been drinking tonight" I told him it was none of his fucking business and it went downhill from there.
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albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:26:53pm |
re: #134 talon_262
Loves me some Maria Muldaur...
/got turned on to her by Art Bell a long time ago...
what was her husbands name?...I forgit...they were a lot of fun back when she had her jug band...saw them at some festivals...I'm gonna google her
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RogueOne Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:26:56pm |
re: #138 MandyManners
He has to have a valid reason to make a stop. He didn't have one. He didn't even try to follow me to make one up either. He was trying to pump up his arrest record. I'm still pissed and it happened almost 15 years ago. I can hold a grudge damnit. ;)
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:28:01pm |
re: #139 RogueOne
I got pulled over on the interstate once. Cop said " you know how fast you were going?" I said "75." He said I was doing 90. I told him I was surprised my car could do 90. He said "Get out of the car!!"
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Daniel Ballard Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:28:17pm |
re: #141 RogueOne
Since MADD has been allowed to set police policy, leaving a bar and getting in a car is officially probable cause, as the "drinking" is in plain sight. It's wrong, but I see it on ride alongs.
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Guanxi88 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:28:20pm |
re: #131 avanti
I've been told told I face much the same fate for not accepting Christ. Nothing new there.
Did these same folk, in their capacity as shrinks, frivolously report soldiers for war crimes, use their clinical status to proselytize, or shoot up a base? There's a pattern to this man's conduct, and one thread running throughout.
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cliffster Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:28:49pm |
re: #138 MandyManners
If you had been drunk and the cop had ignored and you went on to kill someone,...
I dunno, Mandy. With that many if's, you could justify pulling over anyone driving down the road. Anyone might be drunk and might go on to kill somebody. Someone driving home from work at 6:15pm may need to be pulled over just to be sure..
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Only The Lurker Knows Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:29:48pm |
Future OB/GYN doctor.
Good catch! Olive Branch toddler helps in delivery of baby brother
Two-year-old Jeremiha Taylor doesn't have to ask his mother where babies come from -- he helped deliver his little brother at the foot of his family's living room couch.
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MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:29:50pm |
Oh, for fuck's sake.
I'm dropping the rope.
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RogueOne Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:31:33pm |
re: #143 Rightwingconspirator
Since MADD has been allowed to set police policy, leaving a bar and getting in a car is officially probable cause, as the "drinking" is in plain sight. It's wrong, but I see it on ride alongs.
I don't doubt that at all. My best friend and brother in law are both cops and both honest, decent guys but they'll both tell you how they'll lie and say whatever they have to in order to get people to willingly give up their rights. I love them both and I understand they're trying to do their jobs but not every cop in uniform is an honest, decent guy.
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SixDegrees Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:32:30pm |
re: #132 RogueOne
same in indiana. I got pulled over coming out of a bar. I went in to eat dinner with some friends and had nothing to drink but coke. As I'm about to exit the lot I see the cop parked across the street so I come to a complete stop and used my signal to make a right turn. As I pulled out I barely tapped the curb with the side of my tire, the cop flips on his lights and pulls me over. I was PISSED, It almost ended with a tasing.
Sorry to hear about that. But police do the same thing around here sometimes - they target a particular bar because there have been a lot of previous arrests involving drunk drivers who just came from that place, or in once case there were a lot of neighborhood complaints about customers leaving the bar and relieving themselves on porches and cars on the sidestreets. And the cops behave the same way - the slightest infraction will get you pulled over for further perusal. It sends two messages: one to the drivers, that drunk driving isn't tolerated; and the second to the establishment, which can find itself facing a number of unpleasant charges and losing it's liquor license for serving people who are impaired.
One place I know of went through this exercise repeatedly, and eventually shut down thanks to a blizzard of legal complaints from surrounding homeowners, the police and the city council who granted the liquor license.
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MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:32:30pm |
re: #146 Bubblehead II
Future OB/GYN doctor.
Good catch! Olive Branch toddler helps in delivery of baby brother
Two-year-old Jeremiha Taylor doesn't have to ask his mother where babies come from -- he helped deliver his little brother at the foot of his family's living room couch.
"I just pushed and he caught him."
Sign him up, coach!
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cliffster Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:33:06pm |
re: #139 RogueOne
The cop told me he pulled me over for weaving. I explained, not at all politely, that I couldn't have been swerving since I didn't make it an entire vehicle length out of the lot before he pulled me over. When he asked me "how much have you been drinking tonight" I told him it was none of his fucking business and it went downhill from there.
Sometimes, discretion is the better part of valor. Like crossing the street in front of a speeding car. "Well, I had the right-of-way..."
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:33:47pm |
This was a flat out lie, but promoted.
[Link: www2.potsdam.edu...]
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SixDegrees Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:34:00pm |
re: #141 RogueOne
He has to have a valid reason to make a stop. He didn't have one. He didn't even try to follow me to make one up either. He was trying to pump up his arrest record. I'm still pissed and it happened almost 15 years ago. I can hold a grudge damnit. ;)
I thought you said you clipped the curb. That's all the reason he needs to pull you over.
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wrenchwench Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:34:18pm |
re: #146 Bubblehead II
Future OB/GYN doctor.
Good catch! Olive Branch toddler helps in delivery of baby brother
Two-year-old Jeremiha Taylor doesn't have to ask his mother where babies come from -- he helped deliver his little brother at the foot of his family's living room couch.
Wow, the three year old was too upset, but the two year old helped. And after three caesarians!
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wrenchwench Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:36:04pm |
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RogueOne Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:36:38pm |
re: #150 SixDegrees
Oh yeah, I'm sure it happens all the time. You're right that they use these kinds of tactics because that's what people WANT them to do. It's all a great idea until it's them sitting in cuffs or in a holding cell when they haven't done anything wrong.
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cliffster Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:38:36pm |
re: #154 SixDegrees
I thought you said you clipped the curb. That's all the reason he needs to pull you over.
Are you the resident traffic lawyer today? :^)
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albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:39:33pm |
I like cops now...back in the day, I had so many run ins and arrests and bad memories, for all kinds of stuff...people always said I did it to myself but I reject authority and probably always will...no cop was better than me because he had the law on his side and a pistol...and I've seen many bad cops to prove it...but I've changed...the police here in ABQ are a great bunch of people and I always say hello and jive with them a bit...so far so good
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:39:51pm |
re: #155 wrenchwench
Wow, the three year old was too upset, but the two year old helped. And after three caesarians!
He's a natural! I imagine him right out of med school, telling a patient he delivered his first baby twenty-five years ago.
And they're lucky, a vaginal birth after c-section can be tricky.
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albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:41:24pm |
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SixDegrees Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:42:02pm |
re: #158 cliffster
Are you the resident traffic lawyer today? :^)
No, just sayin'. A lot of people believe that the police are acting capriciously when, in fact, they are doing their jobs in a perfectly reasonable manner.
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RogueOne Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:42:19pm |
haley barbour is on hardball. Matthews just asked him about the poll in a previous thread about ACORN stealing the election for Obama. Nice side-step response from Haley.
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wrenchwench Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:42:28pm |
re: #160 SanFranciscoZionist
He's a natural! I imagine him right out of med school, telling a patient he delivered his first baby twenty-five years ago.
And they're lucky, a vaginal birth after c-section can be tricky.
When I was born, they wouldn't allow a vaginal birth after a c-section. My big-headed big brother got stuck, and I was the second of seven c-sections. Looks like "allow" wasn't an operative term here!
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Only The Lurker Knows Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:42:57pm |
Now something for our golf nuts out there.
In Korea, a round on the world's most dangerous golf course.
The golf course at Camp Bonifas, just on the South side of the DMZ, consists of a single hole, but myriad obstacles: a narrow fairway, dense trees, vicious winds -- and a nearby minefield. Good luck.
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SixDegrees Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:43:47pm |
re: #164 wrenchwench
When I was born, they wouldn't allow a vaginal birth after a c-section. My big-headed big brother got stuck, and I was the second of seven c-sections. Looks like "allow" wasn't an operative term here!
Eight kids? They shoulda just installed a ZipLoc closure!
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Daniel Ballard Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:44:05pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:44:08pm |
re: #164 wrenchwench
When I was born, they wouldn't allow a vaginal birth after a c-section. My big-headed big brother got stuck, and I was the second of seven c-sections. Looks like "allow" wasn't an operative term here!
They'll do it sometimes now, but many doctors still avoid them if at all possible.
But yeah, in this case, I don't think there was much of an option!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:44:13pm |
re: #165 Bubblehead II
Now something for our golf nuts out there.
In Korea, a round on the world's most dangerous golf course.
The golf course at Camp Bonifas, just on the South side of the DMZ, consists of a single hole, but myriad obstacles: a narrow fairway, dense trees, vicious winds -- and a nearby minefield. Good luck.
My slice is WAY to bad to golf there.
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cliffster Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:44:17pm |
re: #165 Bubblehead II
And I thought playing in South Carolina with the crocodiles was bad.
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spare o'lake Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:44:49pm |
re: #132 RogueOne
same in indiana. I got pulled over coming out of a bar. I went in to eat dinner with some friends and had nothing to drink but coke. As I'm about to exit the lot I see the cop parked across the street so I come to a complete stop and used my signal to make a right turn. As I pulled out I barely tapped the curb with the side of my tire, the cop flips on his lights and pulls me over. I was PISSED, It almost ended with a tasing.
So you admit you had taken coke.
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wrenchwench Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:45:47pm |
re: #165 Bubblehead II
Now something for our golf nuts out there.
In Korea, a round on the world's most dangerous golf course.
The golf course at Camp Bonifas, just on the South side of the DMZ, consists of a single hole, but myriad obstacles: a narrow fairway, dense trees, vicious winds -- and a nearby minefield. Good luck.
The domestic, non militarized version: New Mexico golf shootout: 3 miles down a mountain
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wrenchwench Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:46:38pm |
re: #166 SixDegrees
Eight kids? They shoulda just installed a ZipLoc closure!
We tease her about having a belly zipper instead of a belly button.
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cliffster Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:48:42pm |
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Digital Display Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:50:08pm |
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albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:55:53pm |
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RogueOne Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:56:24pm |
re: #162 SixDegrees
I have yet to be pulled over, by anyone other than state troops, and have an officer strictly abide by the terry stop rules. You can call me a stickler if you want but I'll never willingly give up even the smallest portion of my civil rights. It's the one pet peeve I have and I get all OCD about it.
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RogueOne Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:57:35pm |
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wrenchwench Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:57:51pm |
re: #177 albusteve
my last cat was a female barn cat...she was half wild and lived to 23...I still miss a lot...I have a real cool painting of her my ex wife did...Sophie
No cat = more lizards. Have your lizard friends gone into hiding for the winter? I saw one in our yard last weekend. Usually they're hibernating by now.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:58:09pm |
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SixDegrees Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:59:19pm |
re: #180 wrenchwench
No cat = more lizards. Have your lizard friends gone into hiding for the winter? I saw one in our yard last weekend. Usually they're hibernating by now.
GLOBAL WARMING!!!
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RogueOne Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:00:14pm |
re: #181 Cannadian Club Akbar
Just don't say POP.
Generic names for soft drinks map:
Image: Pop-vs-Soda-US-Map.mediumthumb.gif
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reine.de.tout Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:00:30pm |
re: #161 albusteve
man I love cats...I want another one
Get two - kittens - it's no more problem to take care of 2 cats than it is one cat. I know. . .we have 5 that have sort of just showed up over time.
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wrenchwench Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:01:23pm |
re: #184 reine.de.tout
Get two - kittens - it's no more problem to take care of 2 cats than it is one cat. I know. . .we have 5 that have sort of just showed up over time.
Our two are litter mates. Definitely the way to go.
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SixDegrees Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:01:31pm |
re: #181 Cannadian Club Akbar
Just don't say POP.
That's what we call it here. When I'm out of state and ask what kind of pop a restaurant serves, people look at me like I just let out a really loud fart.
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albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:02:52pm |
re: #180 wrenchwench
No cat = more lizards. Have your lizard friends gone into hiding for the winter? I saw one in our yard last weekend. Usually they're hibernating by now.
it gets pretty warm in my semi enclosed back patio...all thes rock piled around and my slider is always open, they come right in for a while in the summer...funny you should ask because just yesterday I looked over and a road runner was perched on a chair waiting...I shoo'd him off but he was waiting for my lizards...mo fo...I like those little guys, they like to come on and snoop around
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:03:39pm |
re: #186 SixDegrees
That's what we call it here. When I'm out of state and ask what kind of pop a restaurant serves, people look at me like I just let out a really loud fart.
I went to Canada and ordered a CC and coke. They said "Rye and coke?" I said no, a CC and coke. That went on for about 3 minutes.
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SixDegrees Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:03:45pm |
re: #184 reine.de.tout
Get two - kittens - it's no more problem to take care of 2 cats than it is one cat. I know. . .we have 5 that have sort of just showed up over time.
We just got a 12 week old kitten, and our 8 year old cat is not thinking this was such a swell idea. No over-the-top violence, but lots of ear boxing, hissing, spitting and those really low frequency growls cats do when they're super pissed.
It's only been about three weeks, so it's a little early to tell how this is going to work out. But I'll listen to hints if anyone has them.
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RogueOne Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:03:57pm |
re: #184 reine.de.tout
Get two - kittens - it's no more problem to take care of 2 cats than it is one cat.
I'd love to have 5 dogs but I've learned two dogs are more trouble than one. Plus, I'd need a much bigger place.
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RogueOne Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:04:40pm |
re: #188 Cannadian Club Akbar
I went to Canada and ordered a CC and coke. They said "Rye and coke?" I said no, a CC and coke. That went on for about 3 minutes.
+1 for the irony
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Ben G. Hazi Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:04:56pm |
re: #186 SixDegrees
That's what we call it here. When I'm out of state and ask what kind of pop a restaurant serves, people look at me like
I just let out a really loudI'm a really old fart.
FTFY ;-P
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Only The Lurker Knows Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:05:07pm |
re: #172 wrenchwench
That's one hell of a "course".
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albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:05:20pm |
re: #184 reine.de.tout
Get two - kittens - it's no more problem to take care of 2 cats than it is one cat. I know. . .we have 5 that have sort of just showed up over time.
I travel too much...I would have to build some sort of cat ranch where they could come and go...my ex lives 30min away and would help no problem...thinking, thinking here
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SixDegrees Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:05:32pm |
re: #190 RogueOne
I'd love to have 5 dogs but I've learned two dogs are more trouble than one. Plus, I'd need a much bigger place.
Not if you get those little purse dogs the starlets are all carrying around these days.
Like that one Jessica Simpson had that got eaten by a coyote.
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Kragar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:06:10pm |
re: #189 SixDegrees
We just got a 12 week old kitten, and our 8 year old cat is not thinking this was such a swell idea. No over-the-top violence, but lots of ear boxing, hissing, spitting and those really low frequency growls cats do when they're super pissed.
It's only been about three weeks, so it's a little early to tell how this is going to work out. But I'll listen to hints if anyone has them.
Thats easy.
THUNDERDOME!
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albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:06:53pm |
re: #189 SixDegrees
We just got a 12 week old kitten, and our 8 year old cat is not thinking this was such a swell idea. No over-the-top violence, but lots of ear boxing, hissing, spitting and those really low frequency growls cats do when they're super pissed.
It's only been about three weeks, so it's a little early to tell how this is going to work out. But I'll listen to hints if anyone has them.
ignore them...nature has a way
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SixDegrees Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:07:04pm |
re: #196 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Thats easy.
THUNDERDOME!
Well, that was gonna be my solution - just grab a cat in each hand and rub 'em all over each other. My wife vetoed that sensible suggestion.
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cliffster Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:07:06pm |
re: #184 reine.de.tout
Get two - kittens - it's no more problem to take care of 2 cats than it is one cat. I know. . .we have 5 that have sort of just showed up over time.
I wish I could get another cat. My one has the FIV, so can't really get another one. He really loves other cats too - sits at the window and yeeaoooweeerrrs at them. A bit heartbreaking.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:07:28pm |
re: #189 SixDegrees
We just got a 12 week old kitten, and our 8 year old cat is not thinking this was such a swell idea. No over-the-top violence, but lots of ear boxing, hissing, spitting and those really low frequency growls cats do when they're super pissed.
It's only been about three weeks, so it's a little early to tell how this is going to work out. But I'll listen to hints if anyone has them.
You will simply have to wait it out. They will work it out. They will never be close buddies, but they will learn to live with each other. Probably better if they each have their own bowl for food - my 5 cats have their own "spots", it sort of happened naturally. We still have a few of those low-frequency growling contests, and the occasional spitting and ear-boxing, but it doesn't go beyond that.
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SixDegrees Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:07:34pm |
re: #197 albusteve
ignore them...nature has a way
Yeah. Nature's way, though, often involves one of them eating the other one.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:08:37pm |
re: #190 RogueOne
I'd love to have 5 dogs but I've learned two dogs are more trouble than one. Plus, I'd need a much bigger place.
5 cats are just about as difficult as one cat to deal with.
5 dogs would be a completely different matter. We have one dog, and he takes as much effort as all 5 cats combined. We love them all, though. And one of the cats has adopted him as her BFF.
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SixDegrees Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:09:07pm |
re: #200 reine.de.tout
You will simply have to wait it out. They will work it out. They will never be close buddies, but they will learn to live with each other. Probably better if they each have their own bowl for food - my 5 cats have their own "spots", it sort of happened naturally. We still have a few of those low-frequency growling contests, and the occasional spitting and ear-boxing, but it doesn't go beyond that.
Yeah, we feed them in different locations, and they do seem to be staking out different territories, but the kitten of course is all over the place because...she's a kitten. And she likes to chase the older cat, which is usually what kicks off the conflicts.
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Ben G. Hazi Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:09:21pm |
re: #201 SixDegrees
Yeah. Nature's way, though, often involves one of them eating the other one.
Elder cat coughs up huge kitten-sized hairball *burps*
;-P
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albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:10:30pm |
re: #200 reine.de.tout
You will simply have to wait it out. They will work it out. They will never be close buddies, but they will learn to live with each other. Probably better if they each have their own bowl for food - my 5 cats have their own "spots", it sort of happened naturally. We still have a few of those low-frequency growling contests, and the occasional spitting and ear-boxing, but it doesn't go beyond that.
no different than my last wife and I...beasts
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:11:10pm |
Kittens + laser pointer + beers= night of entertainment.:)
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wrenchwench Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:11:43pm |
re: #194 albusteve
I travel too much...I would have to build some sort of cat ranch where they could come and go...my ex lives 30min away and would help no problem...thinking, thinking here
All the more reason to make it two. They'll keep each other company when you're gone. And how cool to have to shoo away a roadrunner. They're shy birds. Lots of people never even see one. Do you have quail too?
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reine.de.tout Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:12:14pm |
re: #194 albusteve
I travel too much...I would have to build some sort of cat ranch where they could come and go...my ex lives 30min away and would help no problem...thinking, thinking here
I have a feeder and a couple of water bowls that I fill up, and they replenish the feeding/water bowls by themselves. If you had two cats who ate inside, a large feeder and a couple of water bowls - you could leave them for several days. Litter boxes - one litter box for each cat, plus one more is what is recommended, but we find we're OK with just 2 litter boxes. They would need checking on about every 3 days. Have some toys around for them to play with, or they will find and destroy the toilet paper rolls.
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Digital Display Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:12:29pm |
re: #202 reine.de.tout
5 cats are just about as difficult as one cat to deal with.
5 dogs would be a completely different matter. We have one dog, and he takes as much effort as all 5 cats combined. We love them all, though. And one of the cats has adopted him as her BFF.
Try having a Beverly Hills Chihuahua..Spoiled little guy..
Prances around like he owns the joint...Why I ever let a friend dump him off on me I'll never know..
*wink*
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RogueOne Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:12:30pm |
re: #202 reine.de.tout
5 cats are just about as difficult as one cat to deal with.
5 dogs would be a completely different matter. We have one dog, and he takes as much effort as all 5 cats combined. We love them all, though. And one of the cats has adopted him as her BFF.
My male is cat friendly, he's everything friendly. My female thinks everything smaller than her, other than dogs, is food.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:12:37pm |
re: #186 SixDegrees
That's what we call it here. When I'm out of state and ask what kind of pop a restaurant serves, people look at me like I just let out a really loud fart.
I'm from New York, it was soda. When I moved to Texas in 1974, it was pop, and now Colorado it's back to soda.
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albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:12:38pm |
re: #201 SixDegrees
Yeah. Nature's way, though, often involves one of them eating the other one.
that won't happen...trust me...are they city cats, confined indoors?...all my pets were come and go...my two cats were outdoors as much as they could be
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Only The Lurker Knows Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:13:20pm |
re: #201 SixDegrees
Or them getting into an actual pissing contest. We had a cat, but since we both work, the wife decided that it needed a companion to keep it company while we were gone. They hated each other and would "mark" their territory on a daily basis. They both ended up going to a shelter and the carpet is still stained in multiple spots.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:13:41pm |
re: #210 RogueOne
My male is cat friendly, he's everything friendly. My female thinks everything smaller than her, other than dogs, is food.
I have found that male cats, for some reason, are much more people friendly than female cats. But they will wander and seem to have more energy, want to "play" (i.e., bite) more than the female cats do.
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RogueOne Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:14:04pm |
I just noticed my avatar has finally changed. It's not too inappropriate is it? I don't want to get in any trouble.
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SixDegrees Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:14:28pm |
re: #212 albusteve
that won't happen...trust me...are they city cats, confined indoors?...all my pets were come and go...my two cats were outdoors as much as they could be
Yeah, they're indoor cats. I think things will eventually work out. And if not, I can always put both of them in the cat carrier for a cage match.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:14:47pm |
re: #215 RogueOne
I just noticed my avatar has finally changed. It's not too inappropriate is it? I don't want to get in any trouble.
That's f*ing funny!!!
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cliffster Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:15:06pm |
re: #215 RogueOne
I just noticed my avatar has finally changed. It's not too inappropriate is it? I don't want to get in any trouble.
Anyone who would be too offended wouldn't get it.
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RogueOne Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:15:13pm |
re: #214 reine.de.tout
I have found that male cats, for some reason, are much more people friendly than female cats. But they will wander and seem to have more energy, want to "play" (i.e., bite) more than the female cats do.
I know that's true for dogs, at least in my experience. Female dobes are much more protective and even more territorial than the males. Fixed or not.
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SixDegrees Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:16:11pm |
re: #213 Bubblehead II
Or them getting into an actual pissing contest. We had a cat, but since we both work, the wife decided that it needed a companion to keep it company while we were gone. They hated each other and would "mark" their territory on a daily basis. They both ended up going to a shelter and the carpet is still stained in multiple spots.
That hasn't happened at all, and I was dreading just such a reaction. They're both females, which helps a bit in that regard, I think. Keeping fingers crossed that things stay that way.
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cliffster Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:16:45pm |
re: #219 RogueOne
I know that's true for dogs, at least in my experience. Female dobes are much more protective and even more territorial than the males. Fixed or not.
For me male cats are the way to go and female dogs. I've never had a dobe though.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:16:57pm |
re: #194 albusteve
You should do it. Might help with your pain management too.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:17:21pm |
re: #213 Bubblehead II
Or them getting into an actual pissing contest. We had a cat, but since we both work, the wife decided that it needed a companion to keep it company while we were gone. They hated each other and would "mark" their territory on a daily basis. They both ended up going to a shelter and the carpet is still stained in multiple spots.
You know how to stop that. You and your wife, when you came home everyday, should have proceeded to remark the territory. Drives them crazy every time. And share a few beers with each other and it can get really kinky.
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albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:18:12pm |
re: #207 wrenchwench
All the more reason to make it two. They'll keep each other company when you're gone. And how cool to have to shoo away a roadrunner. They're shy birds. Lots of people never even see one. Do you have quail too?
yes...I have three big windows across the back of my sun room, right here behind me...it's very quiet here...last summer there was a giant boom/crash against a window and I turned just in time to see a hawk make off with a dove...he hit it so hard they slammed against the window and the dove left a perfect impression on the glass in dust, wings spread out...mutha naycha...I have not seen quail here but my ex has them hanging around...she's in Rio Rauncho
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albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:19:42pm |
re: #222 Killgore Trout
You should do it. Might help with your pain management too.
exactly what she said
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wrenchwench Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:19:59pm |
re: #224 albusteve
yes...I have three big windows across the back of my sun room, right here behind me...it's very quiet here...last summer there was a giant boom/crash against a window and I turned just in time to see a hawk make off with a dove...he hit it so hard they slammed against the window and the dove left a perfect impression on the glass in dust, wings spread out...mutha naycha...I have not seen quail here but my ex has them hanging around...she's in Rio Rauncho
Quite the feeding station you have. Better keep the kitties inside!
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albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:25:07pm |
re: #226 wrenchwench
Quite the feeding station you have. Better keep the kitties inside!
tons of birds out on the back forty...feeding them is just a circus, I have several feeders but they go nuts...and I provide plenty of fresh water...my favorite pest is a little grey squirrel that comes and goes through my house...from my computer desk I can see part of my stove up in the kitchen...I heard a banging one time and there he was sitting on a tray munching on my prized peanuts I roast...what a picture!, but my camera was in my car...
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RogueOne Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:25:41pm |
re: #221 cliffster
For me male cats are the way to go and female dogs. I've never had a dobe though.
I had a pic of my two as my avatar up until this afternoon. I'm a really bad breed snob, I won't get anything but a dobe. I got my first about 15 years ago and just fell in love. Very smart breed, I like that.
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Only The Lurker Knows Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:28:03pm |
re: #223 Walter L. Newton
You know how to stop that. You and your wife, when you came home everyday, should have proceeded to remark the territory. Drives them crazy every time. And share a few beers with each other and it can get really kinky.
Tried to do that using Oust, didn't work. They'd just remarked the spot when we weren't around. As for the beer, the wife doesn't drink.
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abolitionist Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:45:13pm |
re: #215 RogueOne
I just noticed my avatar has finally changed. It's not too inappropriate is it? I don't want to get in any trouble.
What's a Brazillion? I'm guessing a style of haircut.
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prairiefire Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:27:43pm |
re: #228 RogueOne
Hey, fellow Doberman enthusiast here. They are wonderful, intelligent companions. One of my favorite memories is of Heather, our large red, taking blueberries gently by her huge incisors. Pure delight in her eyes when she bit down!
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kostya lotz Fri, Nov 20, 2009 9:11:56am |
re: #233 prairiefire
Hey group! "Coolit obvah dey wid da cheeze whiz!"
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