After Sarah Palin ended a book-signing event in Noblesville, Indiana, without signing more than 300 books for people who waited more than 6 hours to see her, the crowd turned on her outside her tour bus, booing and yelling “Quitting on the job!”
Here’s a story on the embarrassing incident at indychannel.com: Palin Greets Hundreds, But Not Everyone Leaves Happy.
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Kragar Fri, Nov 20, 2009 2:46:17pm |
That reputation as a quitter seems to keep coming up to bite her in the ass.
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albusteve Fri, Nov 20, 2009 2:50:29pm |
studies have proven that people who reject proper cursive letters in their name, will quit on you in a heartbeat...let me find that link
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reine.de.tout Fri, Nov 20, 2009 2:51:28pm |
Not the first thing she's quit . . .
Probably won't be the last.
This is awful - people purchased her book and then stood in line for hours and she just left without signing their books? Unconscionable.
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Stanghazi Fri, Nov 20, 2009 2:52:53pm |
Why do I have the feeling she's going to blame someone for this?
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bosforus Fri, Nov 20, 2009 2:53:07pm |
As quickly and fondly as a rock star is loved, so also, is s/he hated. The fickle temperaments of adoring fans.
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Gus Fri, Nov 20, 2009 2:53:46pm |
Right, Sarah Palin, the alleged "second coming" of Ronald Reagan. The half-term governor of Alaska in a tricked out bus in the middle of Noblesville, Indiana leaving behind 300 of her fans with unsigned books co-written an associate of neo-Confederate RS McCain.
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albusteve Fri, Nov 20, 2009 2:56:08pm |
re: #9 Gus 802
Right, Sarah Palin, the alleged "second coming" of Ronald Reagan. The half-term governor of Alaska in a tricked out bus in the middle of Noblesville, Indiana leaving behind 300 of her fans with unsigned books co-written an associate of neo-Confederate RS McCain.
Micky Mantle...after every game he would go over to the kids and sign each an autograph and talk to all the kids...every game, no matter what,no matter how long it took...Sarah Palin is no Micky Mantle
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cliffster Fri, Nov 20, 2009 2:56:27pm |
re: #9 Gus 802
Whatever you say about her, she's now a rich whatever-you-say.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Nov 20, 2009 2:57:02pm |
re: #11 cliffster
Whatever you say about her, she's now a rich whatever-you-say.
Might not be quite as rich after all those upset people return the books they bought.
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Gus Fri, Nov 20, 2009 2:57:59pm |
She complained about being governor. She complained about her part in the presidential campaign. She complained about the McCain staff. She complains about the alleged liberal media. She complained about Katie Couric, Charlie Gibson, etc. Her book is pages and pages of grievances and more complaints.
No doubt she didn't feel up to carrying that night to finish signing the books. Probably began with a complaint on her part, "I'm tired of signing books. Let's go."
I see a pattern here.
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ssn697 Fri, Nov 20, 2009 2:58:15pm |
I couldn't help laughing at the people interviewed, saying they stood in the freezing rain all day only to not get an autograph. "I feel like not supporting Sarah now."
Cuz your political beliefs are centered around getting a book signed...
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Gus Fri, Nov 20, 2009 2:58:47pm |
re: #10 albusteve
Micky Mantle...after every game he would go over to the kids and sign each an autograph and talk to all the kids...every game, no matter what,no matter how long it took...Sarah Palin is no Micky Mantle
And she's definitely no Ronald Reagan.
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wrenchwench Fri, Nov 20, 2009 2:58:52pm |
At least somebody is finding her politically useful:
Organizing for America
[Name Redacted]--Right now, Sarah Palin is on a highly publicized, nationwide book tour, attacking President Obama and his plan for health reform at every turn.
It's dangerous. Remember, this is the person who coined the term "Death Panels" -- and opened the flood gates for months of false attacks by special interests and partisan extremists.
Whatever lie comes next will be widely covered by the media, then constantly echoed by right-wing attack groups and others who are trying to defeat reform.
As we approach the final sprint on health reform, we can't afford more deception and delay. We need to be ready for anything -- and have the resources to respond with ads, events, and calls to Congress when the attacks come.
So we're setting a big goal: $500,000 in the next week to help push back against Sarah Palin and her allies. Please chip in $5 to help reach our goal.
Please donate
Earlier this month, Palin publicly said that she hopes health reform will be "dead on arrival." And since then, she's been working fiercely toward that goal.
On Tuesday, Palin went on Rush Limbaugh's radio show where she outrageously -- and falsely -- suggested that Americans could "face jail time as punishment" if they don't buy insurance.
Palin has many more interviews scheduled on Hannity and other conservative shows in the next few weeks, with more platforms to go after the President. As soon as she does, the rest of our opponents will likely parrot those attacks.
We need to be prepared. And we're counting on you help. Can you chip in $5?
[link disabled] //donate.barackobama.com/SarahPalin
Thanks,
Mitch
Mitch Stewart
Director
Organizing for America
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ssn697 Fri, Nov 20, 2009 2:58:58pm |
re: #6 Stanley Sea
Why do I have the feeling she's going to blame someone for this?
She already did. She said Barnes and Noble gave out too may wristbands.
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shai_au Fri, Nov 20, 2009 2:59:50pm |
To be fair, it doesn't sound like a whole lot of people are booing in that Youtube clip.
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fizzlogic Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:00:01pm |
They just wanted their books signed. They'll forgive her. She's their last, best hope for reclaiming the country for God and the original intent of the Constitution.
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Sharmuta Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:00:56pm |
re: #19 shai_au
To be fair, it doesn't sound like a whole lot of people are booing in that Youtube clip.
More "sign our books!" than anything. I was expecting people to storm the bus.
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albusteve Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:01:02pm |
Palinitis...runny nose, watery eyes, difficulty breathing, followed by agitation, depression and a feeling of not wantedness
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Sharmuta Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:01:20pm |
re: #20 trendsurfer
They just wanted their books signed. They'll forgive her. She's their last, best hope for reclaiming the country for God and the original intent of the Constitution.
I thought it was ron paul. I'm so confused.
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albusteve Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:02:12pm |
re: #21 Sharmuta
More "sign our books!" than anything. I was expecting people to storm the bus.
real fans would have torched the bus and attacked the horsebound cops trying to break up the melee...sunshine fans at best
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:02:18pm |
The candle that burns twice as bright burns only half as long.
*fizzle*
re: #20 trendsurfer
They'll forgive her. She's their last, best hope for reclaiming the country for God and the original intent of the Constitution.
They're in for a truly bitter disappointment, then.
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Decatur Deb Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:02:38pm |
Obvious false flag turnout of SEIU and ACORN protesters.
/req.
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SixDegrees Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:03:03pm |
re: #17 ssn697
She already did. She said Barnes and Noble gave out too may wristbands.
So she knew there was a problem and bailed anyway? Somehow, that strikes me as worse.
OK, so you've got a schedule to keep, and someone managed to do make a promise on your behalf that you can't keep. So you...get on the bus in a huff and just leave? No - you ask the crowd for it's attention, explain how sorry you are that things have taken longer than expected, but you really must go now and please check with the store's staff so I can personally mail you the signed copy of my book that you waited so patiently for, at no charge.
How effing hard is that to figure out?
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ssn697 Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:03:20pm |
re: #20 trendsurfer
They just wanted their books signed. They'll forgive her. She's their last, best hope for reclaiming the country for God and the original intent of the Constitution.
That made me laugh. Well done.
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albusteve Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:04:54pm |
to quote my favorite deep thinker, albusteve, "I could care less"
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KingKenrod Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:06:21pm |
Signed copies of "Going Rogue" are going for over $100-$180 on Ebay.
These people are probably upset they didn't get their payday.
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fizzlogic Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:07:28pm |
re: #23 Sharmuta
They'll eventually combine into a single sphere of wingularity that will collapse into itself.
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albusteve Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:07:49pm |
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bosforus Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:09:18pm |
re: #33 albusteve
do what?...doo wop?
Well, you can do that, too. But if you could care less, go ahead and care less.
Sorry, just nagging you on a grammatical pet peeve. Unless you really did mean to convey that you're capable of caring less, though I believe your intent was to convey the idea that you couldn't care less.
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albusteve Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:11:09pm |
re: #34 bosforus
Well, you can do that, too. But if you could care less, go ahead and care less.
Sorry, just nagging you on a grammatical pet peeve. Unless you really did mean to convey that you're capable of caring less, though I believe your intent was to convey the idea that you couldn't care less.
say that twice real fast...are you challenging Cator for bloglinguist?
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Gus Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:11:46pm |
re: #11 cliffster
Whatever you say about her, she's now a rich whatever-you-say.
That's fine. The book tour is fine too. However, what's not fine is the idea and the chatter about her running for president in 2012. It's just a such a ridiculous idea that this recently turned media celebrity could be even considered for that position. Adding insult to injury is that many people are facilitating that push. A walking talking soundbyte machine with a poor track record and a book she-did-not-even-write.
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cliffster Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:11:53pm |
Hundreds of people shouting "Sign our books" holding up cameras and snapping pictures. Sounded more like adoring fans calling for an encore. Smells like PDS.
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Sharmuta Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:12:35pm |
re: #36 scienceboy
Get your own blog. Then we can come over and tell you what to post.
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bosforus Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:12:45pm |
re: #36 scienceboy
Good point. Maybe you should GTFO of here then. You don't think it's substantial that this mindless entity that is Palin has a significant following and stature in politics in America?
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albusteve Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:12:54pm |
re: #36 scienceboy
we need some down time from saving the world
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Sharmuta Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:13:03pm |
ScienceBoy
Registered since: Jan 23, 2007 at 4:44 pm
No. of comments posted: 1
No. of links posted: 0
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cliffster Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:13:22pm |
re: #34 bosforus
Well, you can do that, too. But if you could care less, go ahead and care less.
Sorry, just nagging you on a grammatical pet peeve. Unless you really did mean to convey that you're capable of caring less, though I believe your intent was to convey the idea that you couldn't care less.
Agreed 100% on the pet peeve. That phrase makes no sense, and it's universal. It's like people pronouncing "chipotle" like "chipol-tee"
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cliffster Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:14:02pm |
re: #43 Sharmuta
ScienceBoy
Registered since: Jan 23, 2007 at 4:44 pm
No. of comments posted: 1
No. of links posted: 0
That's ok, he's got a backup sock from the other night.
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Charles Johnson Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:14:19pm |
Comments whining about the topics posted at LGF will be deleted.
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Decatur Deb Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:14:21pm |
re: #44 cliffster
Agreed 100% on the pet peeve. That phrase makes no sense, and it's universal. It's like people pronouncing "chipotle" like "chipol-tee"
Peyotl.
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albusteve Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:14:25pm |
re: #43 Sharmuta
ScienceBoy
Registered since: Jan 23, 2007 at 4:44 pm
No. of comments posted: 1
No. of links posted: 0
I demand he change his nic to SocialSkillzBoy!
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fizzlogic Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:14:34pm |
From the Balloon-Juice's Lexicon:
Wingularity, the- the point at which the insanity from the far right and those controlling the Republican Party [continues] to grow exponentially until it reaches an unsustainable weight and collapses upon itself. This is also known as the Purity Spiral, wherein the density of wingnut increases compared to mainstream conservatives to the point of pure wingnut. As the ratio rises, this creates a phenomenon wherein no logic or sanity can penetrate or escape. When rightwing argument has become completely inaccessible to the uninitiated, it has reached the Wingularity. Coined by commenters JM and Joe K.
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bosforus Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:15:12pm |
re: #35 albusteve
say that twice real fast...are you challenging Cator for bloglinguist?
Yes. And by 'yes', it's understood that I mean 'no'.
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SixDegrees Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:15:34pm |
re: #36 scienceboy
Actually, Palin's corrosive presence on the right is a major impediment to getting reasonable politicians elected to defeat many of the proposals conservatives are currently so concerned about. Dragging her out into the sunlight is an excellent idea, and serves the purpose of exposing her hypocrisy and idiocy so no one can claim they weren't aware of it when she and others aligned with her manage to drag the GOP down the drain with them. It may, in fact, even prevent such an outcome.
Meanwhile, if you don't care for the contents of this site, it's easy to start your own blog. Cheap, too. Feel free to apply yourself and produce something with content more to your liking.
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ScienceBoy Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:16:40pm |
re: #43 Sharmuta
Why does it matter when I registered or how many times I've posted? I've been lurking for a while and I'll see a post and think - yeah, I agree with that or no that comment doesn't make sense but so what?
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cliffster Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:16:50pm |
re: #37 Gus 802
That's fine. The book tour is fine too. However, what's not fine is the idea and the chatter about her running for president in 2012. It's just a such a ridiculous idea that this recently turned media celebrity could be even considered for that position. Adding insult to injury is that many people are facilitating that push. A walking talking soundbyte machine with a poor track record and a book she-did-not-even-write.
I agree. Even worse than that? We have someone just like that in the White House.
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webevintage Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:17:05pm |
Silly Sarah, she has no idea how to treat her fans...she is no Neil Gaiman who will sign for hours and hours so no one gets disappointed.
She really has a lot to learn...
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albusteve Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:17:28pm |
re: #44 cliffster
Agreed 100% on the pet peeve. That phrase makes no sense, and it's universal. It's like people pronouncing "chipotle" like "chipol-tee"
people that keep peeves as pets are highly suspect imo
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Sharmuta Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:18:07pm |
re: #53 ScienceBoy
Your first comment in two years is to bitch about the topic? I guess you weren't lurking all those time where previous comments whining about the topic were deleted?
What do you think of palin's creationism, scienceboy?
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albusteve Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:18:19pm |
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cliffster Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:18:49pm |
re: #56 albusteve
people that keep peeves as pets are highly suspect imo
A peeve makes an excellent watchdog. No one's going to come into a house with a peeve ranting about.
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albusteve Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:19:57pm |
re: #59 cliffster
A peeve makes an excellent watchdog. No one's going to come into a house with a peeve ranting about.
especially those crazy Pitpeeves
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Decatur Deb Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:21:32pm |
re: #61 albusteve
especially those crazy Pitpeeves
If I came upon your peeve I would just drive off in my Huff.
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Shiplord Kirel Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:21:48pm |
January 20 2015:
"We interrupt our regularly scheduled program to bring you a special address from President Palin."
"Good evening my fellow Americans. I hope all of you are recovering nicely from that nasty flu bug that's been going around. Who needs vaccines anyway? Just a few sniffles and some aches and that's it. Don't believe all that atheist propaganda about 10000 deaths in the northeast and all that. People die every day!
And a special shout-out to all the nice folks in Wyoming who are still getting past the lib media hysteria over that so-called nuclear waste accident. My executive order to change the half-life of ura-na-nium still stands, since we all know that nothing can take more than 6000 years. The Bible says so! You betcha!
To get down to brass tacks, I have decided to move on to spend more time with the family and fight the court case over the unfortunate events that have befallen that rat, er, misguided youth Levi Johnston. My resignation will be effective at noon tomorrow.
Don't worry though, Vice-President Jindal will step right up and continue my policies to the letter, er, letters. Anyway, everybody have a good night and remember us in your prayers."
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Gus Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:22:06pm |
re: #54 cliffster
I agree. Even worse than that? We have someone just like that in the White House.
It's funny because I was thinking the same thing. Sarah Palin is almost the Republican version of Obama. The comparison is in that she is seen as the all knowing "faith healer" that will cure all ills with the sweep of her hand.
I was thinking of a nickname already for Palin: The Complainer in Chief. It's almost like I expect her to start performing "healing sessions" and start "speaking in tongues" on this book tour.
/
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cliffster Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:22:08pm |
Off to chill out on the couch for awhile. Probably bbl to take in the drunken friday night lizards. l8r
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:22:47pm |
I SURE hope she's sitting in that fancy bus, pre-signing as many books as her fingers can sign. She really should send signed books to those disappointed folks. Somehow, I doubt she will.
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bosforus Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:23:25pm |
re: #65 cliffster
Off to chill out on the couch for awhile. Probably bbl to take in the drunken friday night lizards. l8r
By all means, post plenty of drunken comments!
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albusteve Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:23:37pm |
re: #60 bosforus
I was just following your grammatical example. :)
my grammatical skills are less than perfect, whereas my spelling skills are renouned
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jonik Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:23:41pm |
re: #52 SixDegrees
Yeah reasonable people like Reid, Pelosi, Leahy. We need more like'em
GMAFB
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Sharmuta Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:25:19pm |
re: #64 Gus 802
The unconstrained left and right both look for an icon instead of real leadership.
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SixDegrees Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:27:45pm |
re: #69 jonik
Yeah reasonable people like Reid, Pelosi, Leahy. We need more like'em
GMAFB
I don't know where that came from. Please try reading my post more carefully.
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Wozza Matter? Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:28:02pm |
re: #54 cliffster
A walking talking soundbyte machine with a poor track record and a book she-did-not-even-write.
One of those in the whitehouse?.
Harvard law review, professor emeritus, self authored books, functional family unit at home...
yup. Barack is Sarah Palin alright.
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Shiplord Kirel Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:29:31pm |
re: #73 wozzablog
One of those in the whitehouse?.
Harvard law review, professor emeritus, self authored books, functional family unit at home...
yup. Barack is Sarah Palin alright.
NO! Che Guevara Bill Ayers wrote Obama's book!
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:29:50pm |
Years ago, I was walking down a street in NYC, in the rain, so there were no taxi's, and I saw a long line of people. They were waiting to get the new Dick Francis book & an autograph. I stood in line for over 2 hours, in the rain. He's a retired horse-jockey. His hands were so broken & bent he couldn't hold a pen properly. He stayed & signed everyone's book. But then, he didn't have a fancy bus waiting to take him away!
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Decatur Deb Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:31:05pm |
re: #74 Shiplord Kirel
NO!
Che GuevaraBill AyersChristopher Marlowe wrote Obama's book!
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Wozza Matter? Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:32:21pm |
re: #69 jonik
Hardly the most post-partisan people in the world... but Boenher, Mconnel and Bachman heading up the GOP causus are hardly shining lights.
If the Democrats were being trully obnoxious to Republicans who want to deal on issues i'd agree with you - but they are just about as bad as each other.
There are only a very few people on the GOP side in Congress who want to deal in good faith on anything that comes from the white house or upper echelon of the Democratic Leadership.
Last time out the Democrats backed a Republican president on Immigration reform, Iraq, Afghanistan, no child left behind... the list is longer.
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albusteve Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:32:55pm |
re: #73 wozzablog
One of those in the whitehouse?.
Harvard law review, professor emeritus, self authored books, functional family unit at home...
yup. Barack is Sarah Palin alright.
parody?...good one, so link something he published at HLR...and as far of professor emeritus (of Con law) have you been following the NYC trial story?...me thinks BO barely knows a felony from a misdemeanor...as for his amily function, you assume, rather than know...dragging BO into any topic is risky
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Shiplord Kirel Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:33:13pm |
re: #76 Decatur Deb
Francis Bacon maybe?
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Gus Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:33:17pm |
re: #71 Sharmuta
The unconstrained left and right both look for an icon instead of real leadership.
Excellent compact assessment. Imagery over substance. While this has always been the case in politics it's becoming more apparent with modern society since that's how our celebrity based culture is run on a day to day basis. The icon in these cases become the superheros that will cure and fix all problems that we face with almost magical powers.
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albusteve Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:33:55pm |
re: #74 Shiplord Kirel
NO!
Che GuevaraBill Ayers wrote Obama's book!
he might have, as well as anybody else...nobody knows do they?
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Obdicut Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:34:31pm |
re: #79 jonik
I just don't get it. The woman ran for VP and has written a book about it. She has done nothing to merit the scorn of the left and especially the MSM. The AP devoted 11 reporters to fact check her book. She is the governor of a state, not some tyrant who wants to dominate the world. What is her great crime that deserves this much attention. She's a polititician; nothing more, nothing less. GET OVER IT!
She WAS the governor of a state.
People don't just get attention for crimes.
All caps is not cruise control for cool.
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Shiplord Kirel Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:34:33pm |
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Gus Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:35:57pm |
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reine.de.tout Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:36:10pm |
re: #75 Floral Giraffe
Years ago, I was walking down a street in NYC, in the rain, so there were no taxi's, and I saw a long line of people. They were waiting to get the new Dick Francis book & an autograph. I stood in line for over 2 hours, in the rain. He's a retired horse-jockey. His hands were so broken & bent he couldn't hold a pen properly. He stayed & signed everyone's book. But then, he didn't have a fancy bus waiting to take him away!
I'm a HUGE Dick Francis fan.
No new books in awhile, though.
He must be very old by now.
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Obdicut Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:36:14pm |
re: #85 Shiplord Kirel
I have this far-out-there conspiracy theory that Obama wrote it.
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Decatur Deb Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:36:23pm |
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SixDegrees Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:36:39pm |
re: #79 jonik
I just don't get it. The woman ran for VP and has written a book about it. She has done nothing to merit the scorn of the left and especially the MSM. The AP devoted 11 reporters to fact check her book. She is the governor of a state, not some tyrant who wants to dominate the world. What is her great crime that deserves this much attention. She's a polititician; nothing more, nothing less. GET OVER IT!
Actually, the Left loves her, and is hoping and praying that she manages to get the nomination, because it would mean not only Democratic victory, but a huge Democratic mandate and the weakening of the GOP for years to come, probably decades.
And she is not the governor of Alaska. Apparently, the job was too hard for her, so she quit halfway through her term.
In similar fashion, she quit halfway through her own book signing event. Her great crime is incompetence and shallowness.
Her ascendancy is the most disastrous thing I can imagine happening to the GOP.
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albusteve Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:37:15pm |
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:37:15pm |
re: #87 reine.de.tout
I'm a HUGE Dick Francis fan.
No new books in awhile, though.
He must be very old by now.
His last couple of books, his son is listed as a co-author.
He was really neat to get to meet!
Couldn't have been nicer!
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Obdicut Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:38:02pm |
re: #87 reine.de.tout
I'm a HUGE Dick Francis fan.
No new books in awhile, though.
He must be very old by now.
No, just in his fifties, actually. He just looks older because of all the damage he's taken.
And yes, his novels are some of my favorites. He writes with an astonishing range in his characters, too-- everything from the 'child of light' in the banking one to the walking dead man in the American horse-thief one.
(I'm bad with titles).
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reine.de.tout Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:38:53pm |
re: #92 Floral Giraffe
His last couple of books, his son is listed as a co-author.
He was really neat to get to meet!
Couldn't have been nicer!
Flo - there is a new book!
Came out in August!
Even has a Kindle version!
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Decatur Deb Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:39:20pm |
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:39:49pm |
re: #94 reine.de.tout
I was too lazy to go look!
Off to Amazon for you!
;)
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reine.de.tout Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:40:08pm |
re: #93 Obdicut
No, just in his fifties, actually. He just looks older because of all the damage he's taken.
And yes, his novels are some of my favorites. He writes with an astonishing range in his characters, too-- everything from the 'child of light' in the banking one to the walking dead man in the American horse-thief one.
(I'm bad with titles).
I had every single book he wrote - found the older ones in paperback, and when I finished those, bought the new ones as they came out. You're correct - very talented writer, his characters are great.
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Gus Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:40:35pm |
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:41:29pm |
re: #93 Obdicut
Nope, he's 89 according to Wiki..
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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Wozza Matter? Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:41:32pm |
re: #78 albusteve
unless i'm mistaken the president can't bring personal prosecutions through criminal courts... ;-)
i think the justice department acting on advice of Eric Holder have brought the presecutions...
i know that you know it isn't Obama's personal prosecution - and that it isn't his decsion entirely - i know you know that because seperation of powers dictates that - and i think you know the constitution.
If you want to believe that the President hates America enough to bring the 9/11 suspects into one of the highest courts of law and charge them with something equivalent to a parking ticket - hey - s'up to you.
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Obdicut Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:43:00pm |
re: #99 Floral Giraffe
Oh, my stupid. I counted from his 'writing start' age. So sorry.
Then he looks really, really good, considering all the damage he's taken (saw him about... eight years ago).
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Yashmak Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:45:11pm |
re: #64 Gus 802
It's funny because I was thinking the same thing. Sarah Palin is almost the Republican version of Obama.
You know, I think you're right. I'll say this. . .she's living up to the "America's Crazy Ex-Girlfriend" title pretty well too. Every time she turns up or speaks up, she brings drama to the table.
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Gus Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:45:32pm |
I think some authors will pre-sign their books. Then add a personalized message later if need be.
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albusteve Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:45:40pm |
re: #100 wozzablog
unless i'm mistaken the president can't bring personal prosecutions through criminal courts... ;-)
i think the justice department acting on advice of Eric Holder have brought the presecutions...
i know that you know it isn't Obama's personal prosecution - and that it isn't his decsion entirely - i know you know that because seperation of powers dictates that - and i think you know the constitution.
If you want to believe that the President hates America enough to bring the 9/11 suspects into one of the highest courts of law and charge them with something equivalent to a parking ticket - hey - s'up to you.
I didn't say the president hates America, putting words in my mouth is insecure of you, speak for yourself...Holder works for BO...and why are the tribunals at Gitmo insufficient for these trials?...why the double standard in venues?...are you sure this is Constitutional?
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jonik Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:47:25pm |
re: #90 SixDegrees
Are you kidding me? The left acts like its terrified of her. Who else is getting this much attention. Seriously the left has substituted Sarah Palin for George Bush in their daily rants. Just watch MSNBC for 10 minutes. Every show, and I mean every show starts off with Sarah Palin news. The left is sh*tting their pants thinking Sarah Palin may get the nomination. I don't think she should; I wouldn't vote for her, but the left is terrified of her; watch the news and listen to the talking heads.
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Kruk Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:47:44pm |
re: #20 trendsurfer
They just wanted their books signed. They'll forgive her. She's their last, best hope for reclaiming the country for God and the original intent of the Constitution.
"That gal is our last hope."
"No. There is another."
"Really? She's not our last hope?"
"Nah, I was just going with it. She *is* our last hope."
(Bonus marks to anyone geeky enough to place that one.)
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Obdicut Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:48:31pm |
re: #104 Gus 802
I think some authors will pre-sign their books. Then add a personalized message later if need be.
My favorite signed book was from Douglas Adams.
I asked him to sign it: "To Current Owner, Douglas Adams."
He chuckled. While wearing a very ugly red hat.
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webevintage Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:48:45pm |
re: #92 Floral Giraffe
His last couple of books, his son is listed as a co-author.
He was really neat to get to meet!
Couldn't have been nicer!
I love hearing about authors/artists who appreciate their fans, that's nice to know about him.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:48:55pm |
re: #104 Gus 802
I think some authors will pre-sign their books. Then add a personalized message later if need be.
Yep, that's a favorite tactic of Ann Coulter (speaking from personal experience, signed copy of Treason).
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Decatur Deb Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:49:00pm |
re: #106 jonik
Are you kidding me? The left acts like its terrified of her. Who else is getting this much attention. Seriously the left has substituted Sarah Palin for George Bush in their daily rants. Just watch MSNBC for 10 minutes. Every show, and I mean every show starts off with Sarah Palin news. The left is sh*tting their pants thinking Sarah Palin may get the nomination. I don't think she should; I wouldn't vote for her, but the left is terrified of her; watch the news and listen to the talking heads.
You know us so well.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:49:26pm |
re: #107 Kruk
"That gal is our last hope."
"No. There is another."
"Really? She's not our last hope?"
"Nah, I was just going with it. She *is* our last hope."
(Bonus marks to anyone geeky enough to place that one.)
Stay on Target!
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Sharmuta Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:49:29pm |
EU rejects Palestinian statehood appeal
The European Union rejected requests Tuesday that it support a Palestinian plan for gaining recognition as an independent state at the U.N. Security Council without Israeli consent.
Sweden's Foreign Minister Carl Bildt, whose country holds the rotating EU presidency, told reporters "the conditions are not there as of yet" for such a move. "I would hope that we would be in a position to recognize a Palestinian state, but there has to be one first, so I think that is somewhat premature."
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Killgore Trout Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:49:49pm |
Video:Glenn Beck goes to Jupiter where his fans declare him Pope
/not kidding
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spinmore Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:50:03pm |
Seems like a strong case of PDS has set in here . . .
Don't worry - they're working on a vaccine.
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Gus Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:50:12pm |
re: #111 Dark_Falcon
Yep, that's a favorite tactic of Ann Coulter (speaking from personal experience, signed copy of Treason).
Would be the most efficient way to go about it. Especially if they're dealing with large crowds.
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Ben G. Hazi Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:50:31pm |
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Yashmak Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:50:41pm |
re: #106 jonik
Are you kidding me? The left acts like its terrified of her. Who else is getting this much attention. Seriously the left has substituted Sarah Palin for George Bush in their daily rants. Just watch MSNBC for 10 minutes. Every show, and I mean every show starts off with Sarah Palin news. The left is sh*tting their pants thinking Sarah Palin may get the nomination. I don't think she should; I wouldn't vote for her, but the left is terrified of her; watch the news and listen to the talking heads.
It's not terror, it's disgust. They're disgusted by the idea that so many Americans seem to actually think she'd be a good choice for President. Frankly, this conservative tends to agree.
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bosforus Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:51:27pm |
re: #116 Killgore Trout
Video:Glenn Beck goes to Jupiter where his fans declare him Pope
/not kidding
Would hate to get caught in a storm waiting for his tour bus to arrive.
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Gus Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:51:51pm |
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recusancy Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:51:59pm |
re: #106 jonik
Are you kidding me? The left acts like its terrified of her. Who else is getting this much attention. Seriously the left has substituted Sarah Palin for George Bush in their daily rants. Just watch MSNBC for 10 minutes. Every show, and I mean every show starts off with Sarah Palin news. The left is sh*tting their pants thinking Sarah Palin may get the nomination. I don't think she should; I wouldn't vote for her, but the left is terrified of her; watch the news and listen to the talking heads.
I am of the left. I really hope she does get the nomination. Then I won't have to spend so much effort volunteering for the campaign.
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jonik Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:51:59pm |
re: #120 Yashmak
I wouldn't vote for her either; my point is I can't remember anybody getting this much BS just because they ran for VP and then wrote a book. It's insane
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Killgore Trout Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:52:26pm |
re: #121 bosforus
A ringing endorsement.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:53:06pm |
Since the bus has her signature on it, they should have held it for ransom.
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Yashmak Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:53:57pm |
re: #124 jonik
I wouldn't vote for her either; my point is I can't remember anybody getting this much BS just because they ran for VP and then wrote a book. It's insane
I dunno, there was this guy named Quayle once. . .can't recall if he wrote any books though. He caught a ton of flak too, although for different reasons.
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webevintage Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:54:54pm |
re: #106 jonik
Are you kidding me? The left acts like its terrified of her. Who else is getting this much attention. Seriously the left has substituted Sarah Palin for George Bush in their daily rants. Just watch MSNBC for 10 minutes. Every show, and I mean every show starts off with Sarah Palin news. The left is sh*tting their pants thinking Sarah Palin may get the nomination. I don't think she should; I wouldn't vote for her, but the left is terrified of her; watch the news and listen to the talking heads.
Palin is all over the news because...Palin is all over the news.
Every time you turn around she is "writing" something on Facebook, or being a "KingMaker" or showing up on Oprah.
The left is not, I repeat not terrified of her.
We can only pray that she will run for President.
We don't dislike her because she is a mom of 5 kids or has a child with down's syndrome or a Christian or pretty or any of the silly reasons given for half of the countries dislike of the woman.
There are more then enough realistic reasons to find her distasteful without making things up.
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Sharmuta Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:54:58pm |
re: #128 dogg
Where were you the other night, dogg? Folks talked KSM all night.
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jonik Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:55:14pm |
re: #129 Yashmak
His great crime was not being able to spell potato and criticizing Murphy Brown. Great point, I forgot about that one.
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Decatur Deb Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:55:15pm |
re: #128 dogg
(snip)
What is the reason her failings are of so much interest to some of you fools.
(snip)
Because she won't go away.
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Yashmak Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:55:45pm |
re: #130 Gus 802
Flounce!
Isn't it only a flounce, if it's intentional? I think in this case, bufoonery would be a better term.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:55:49pm |
Dogg? Is English your first language? I'll cut you a little more slack if it isn't.
If it is; that's a 2 on the flounce scale.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:56:43pm |
re: #106 jonik
I don't think she should; I wouldn't vote for her, but the left is terrified of her; watch the news and listen to the talking heads.
I think you need to look up the difference between "terrified" and "appalled".
I'm appalled that Bible Spice has enough support to run a rock-star bus around the country. But then so does KISS.
I am entirely unterrified of her chances of ever being anything but a quitter and a curiosity.
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Digital Display Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:57:13pm |
re: #128 dogg
You know what dumbass? We discuss this and many issues everyday...Try to keep up..
Dumbass
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Gus Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:57:26pm |
re: #135 Yashmak
Isn't it only a flounce, if it's intentional? I think in this case, bufoonery would be a better term.
Maybe so. He probably missed the part were we went over the NYC trial on two occasion. Some of them lasting for over 12 hours with comments reaching 1000 or so. And it's still coming up in other threads.
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spinmore Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:57:45pm |
re: #131 webevintage
It's exciting to know that "thee" spokesperson for the Left hangs out at LGF.
/
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SixDegrees Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:57:48pm |
re: #106 jonik
Are you kidding me? The left acts like its terrified of her. Who else is getting this much attention. Seriously the left has substituted Sarah Palin for George Bush in their daily rants. Just watch MSNBC for 10 minutes. Every show, and I mean every show starts off with Sarah Palin news. The left is sh*tting their pants thinking Sarah Palin may get the nomination. I don't think she should; I wouldn't vote for her, but the left is terrified of her; watch the news and listen to the talking heads.
Uh - why do you think the left is doing everything it can to give her all that attention and keep her in the spotlight?
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Cato the Elder Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:58:12pm |
re: #128 dogg
I am glad to see some at LGF are discussing real issues like bringing enemy's to NYC vs. Palin's book signing.
What is the reason her failings are of so much interest to some of you fools.
The USA is becoming more bankrupted and less a land of liberty everyday and my used to be favorite blog (LGF) is losing it's focus.
You know what? We're slowly weeding out the illiterates, too.
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Yashmak Fri, Nov 20, 2009 3:58:30pm |
re: #139 Gus 802
Maybe so. He probably missed the part were we went over the NYC trial on two occasion. Some of them lasting for over 12 hours with comments reaching 1000 or so. And it's still coming up in other threads.
Well, he obviously doesn't frequent the place. Here since May '07 and only 14 comments and all. . .
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Gus Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:00:15pm |
re: #143 Yashmak
Well, he obviously doesn't frequent the place. Here since May '07 and only 14 comments and all. . .
Maybe he's been chasing his tail. /
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SixDegrees Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:00:16pm |
re: #132 Sharmuta
Where were you the other night, dogg? Folks talked KSM all night.
And have done so on multiple threads, every day, over the last week or so since Holder's decision was announced.
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bosforus Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:00:31pm |
re: #128 dogg
..my used to be favorite blog (LGF) is losing it's focus.
Thank you for putting "LGF" in parentheses. We wouldn't have known what blog you were talking about otherwise.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:01:04pm |
re: #132 Sharmuta
Where were you the other night, dogg? Folks talked KSM all night.
No point in joining in on that sort of conversation, when one can wait for a thread one doesn't like and whine about it.
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Wozza Matter? Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:01:09pm |
re: #105 albusteve
will apologize for the hating america remark - but tenor of the rest of the comment stands - suggesting he dithered over the severity of what happened on 9/11 as to th charges to be brought is not helpful in the context.
the tribunals as set up by Rumsfeld were not constitutional - Rumsfeld Vs Hamdan in the supreme court stated that.
People who plot crimes to be committed against US citizens on US soil are perfectly within the remit of the Constitution to be tried in Federal court in the applicable state.
Crimeswere comiitted - conspiracy to murder, conspiracy to hijack, conspiracy to violence - if the FBI/CIA have done things half competently there should be atleast a dozen things to charge these guys wth.
But - and i have a huge qualifying statement - i don't know if the prosecutions will stand up on appeal, so i don't know yet if these particular prosecutions are correct. There are 100+ ways this could fall apart.
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Gus Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:02:37pm |
re: #146 SixDegrees
And have done so on multiple threads, every day, over the last week or so since Holder's decision was announced.
It even came up again here.
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albusteve Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:02:59pm |
re: #149 wozzablog
will apologize for the hating america remark - but tenor of the rest of the comment stands - suggesting he dithered over the severity of what happened on 9/11 as to th charges to be brought is not helpful in the context.
the tribunals as set up by Rumsfeld were not constitutional - Rumsfeld Vs Hamdan in the supreme court stated that.
People who plot crimes to be committed against US citizens on US soil are perfectly within the remit of the Constitution to be tried in Federal court in the applicable state.
Crimeswere comiitted - conspiracy to murder, conspiracy to hijack, conspiracy to violence - if the FBI/CIA have done things half competently there should be atleast a dozen things to charge these guys wth.But - and i have a huge qualifying statement - i don't know if the prosecutions will stand up on appeal, so i don't know yet if these particular prosecutions are correct. There are 100+ ways this could fall apart.
go to NRO and follow the story...Andy McCarthy lays it all out nicely
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Decatur Deb Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:03:09pm |
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philosophus invidius Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:03:10pm |
The boos say more about the kind of people who would go to a Sarah Palin book-signing than they do about Sarah Palin. Although that certainly says something indirectly about Palin.
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Sharmuta Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:03:29pm |
re: #148 reine.de.tout
No point in joining in on that sort of conversation, when one can wait for a thread one doesn't like and whine about it.
That or it's a very inattentive dogg.
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Gus Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:04:34pm |
re: #152 Decatur Deb
For our sins.
Yep. In couple of hours it will be looking like Homer Simpson choking Bart.
//
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Sharmuta Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:04:57pm |
re: #138 HoosierHoops
You know what dumbass? We discuss this and many issues everyday...Try to keep up..
Dumbass
Hoops is Red Foreman?
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Cato the Elder Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:05:17pm |
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:05:44pm |
re: #145 Gus 802
Maybe he's been chasing his tail. /
No, he was digging holes. But instead of burying bones, he buried his brain.
/
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:06:56pm |
Am I sensing a fresh wave of whinging palin fanboys? Awesome.
(posted from an iPod!)
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Decatur Deb Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:08:19pm |
re: #159 windupbird
Am I sensing a fresh wave of whinging palin fanboys? Awesome.
(posted from an iPod!)
Naw, poor guy just pulled the cork on a vat of residual rage from the Battle of NY.
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Digital Display Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:09:07pm |
re: #156 Sharmuta
Hoops is Red Foreman?
I saw a great bumpersticker today.. I almost crashed the car..
Jesus Loves you
Everybody else thinks you're an asshole
I want one!
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:09:27pm |
re: #159 windupbird
Am I sensing a fresh wave of whinging palin fanboys? Awesome.
(posted from an iPod!)
Whinging? Little Whinging?
Do you mean to tell me Dudley Dursley's a Palin fanboy? Logical in a very odd sort of way, I suppose.
(I now only point out typos if they are interesting.)
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Cato the Elder Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:10:18pm |
re: #161 HoosierHoops
I saw a great bumpersticker today.. I almost crashed the car..
Jesus Loves you
Everybody else thinks you're an assholeI want one!
My recent favorite.
"Always remember to pillage before you burn."
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:10:46pm |
re: #163 Cato the Elder
My recent favorite.
"Always remember to pillage before you burn."
"Forget World Peace
Visualize Using Your Turn Signal."
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:12:14pm |
re: #157 Cato the Elder
Reposted from a non-Palin thread:
I finally figured out why Sarah Palin looks so repellent to me.
She's the reincarnation of Leona Helmsley. Who in turn looked like The Joker.
Why did this take me so long?
Can't be. Palin is a rural person while Helmsley made her home in NYC. Also, Sarah Palin doesn't break the law. Still funny though.
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Cineaste Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:12:25pm |
re: #105 albusteve
I didn't say the president hates America, putting words in my mouth is insecure of you, speak for yourself...Holder works for BO...and why are the tribunals at Gitmo insufficient for these trials?...why the double standard in venues?...are you sure this is Constitutional?
Well here's one possibility. This gives us the most bites at the Apple.
He gets tried in Federal Court on terrorism trials for 9/11.
If that fails, he gets tried again in a military tribunal for war crimes.
If that fails then he gets held indefinitely as a POW during ongoing conflict - which according to him doesn't end until the United States is destroyed - so he's locked up forever.
I suspect if you do it in any other order you might not keep all those options on the table. Just one idea.
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HappyBenghazi Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:13:30pm |
I am not surprised. What she did this past summer was completely bizarre and showed a lacked of leadership on her part.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:14:38pm |
re: #165 Cato the Elder
Umm...whinging is a word.
Wow. You're right. English sure has an overabundance of words. (Yes, I know, we have multiple words because we often have a word for something in each of the many languages that into making up English.)
I apologize.
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albusteve Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:15:54pm |
re: #168 Cineaste
Well here's one possibility. This gives us the most bites at the Apple.
He gets tried in Federal Court on terrorism trials for 9/11.
If that fails, he gets tried again in a military tribunal for war crimes.
If that fails then he gets held indefinitely as a POW during ongoing conflict - which according to him doesn't end until the United States is destroyed - so he's locked up forever.
I suspect if you do it in any other order you might not keep all those options on the table. Just one idea.
in a legal tribunal, KSM pleaded guilty and requested the DP, BO stopped the process, why?
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Kruk Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:16:05pm |
re: #113 Dark_Falcon
Stay on Target!
Pfft. Anyone can get the Star Wars reference. It's being able to place the guys who were riffing Star Wars in that conversation that will establish your true nerd credentials.
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recusancy Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:17:29pm |
re: #171 albusteve
in a legal tribunal, KSM pleaded guilty and requested the DP, BO stopped the process, why?
Because we don't do it on the terrorists terms.
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kobra_55 Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:17:41pm |
Haha this is awesome but not surprising. Doesn't matter if it's Sarah Palin or Jesus Christ. If I buy someone's book and stand in line for 6 hours to have them sign it and they leave me hanging, I'm gonna boo 'em. You betcha.
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spinmore Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:18:17pm |
Wrapping up a Hunter Safety Course with two of my kids tomorrow.
. . . wouldn't mind havin' Sarah P. share some moose huntin' secrets
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philosophus invidius Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:18:58pm |
re: #174 kobra_55
Jesus would never do that to you.
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Decatur Deb Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:19:17pm |
re: #176 spinmore
Wrapping up a Hunter Safety Course with two of my kids tomorrow.
. . . wouldn't mind havin' Sarah P. share some moose huntin' secrets
If you have your choice of VP types, go with Sarah.
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recusancy Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:19:27pm |
re: #176 spinmore
Wrapping up a Hunter Safety Course with two of my kids tomorrow.
. . . wouldn't mind havin' Sarah P. share some moose huntin' secrets
Step #1: Rent a helicopter.
...
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albusteve Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:19:37pm |
re: #173 recusancy
Because we don't do it on the terrorists terms.
do what?...are you suggesting that illogical image meme again?...that's old and has been shot to pieces...your statement is irrational
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:19:50pm |
re: #172 Kruk
Pfft. Anyone can get the Star Wars reference. It's being able to place the guys who were riffing Star Wars in that conversation that will establish your true nerd credentials.
Someone else has already placed it correctly before I even started typing. In that circumstance, I just decided to throw out a joke line I often use to respond to Star Wars references.
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Sharmuta Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:19:59pm |
re: #177 philosophus invidius
Jesus would never do that to you.
Jesus could make ten signed books ten thousand.
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kobra_55 Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:20:36pm |
re: #177 philosophus invidius
I bet his disciples were so bummed when he ascended into heaven and never came back. Now if only Palin could do that...
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Decatur Deb Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:20:50pm |
Chief there's a hot spot over in the 170's. Better get some water on it.
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albusteve Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:20:56pm |
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Jeff In Ohio Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:21:21pm |
re: #161 HoosierHoops
Jesus only loves you because he has to.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:21:59pm |
re: #179 recusancy
Step #1: Rent a helicopter.
...
Don't get Cato started on her wolf hunting. That's the trigger event for his despising her. And I can't blame him for that.
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albusteve Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:22:04pm |
re: #176 spinmore
Wrapping up a Hunter Safety Course with two of my kids tomorrow.
. . . wouldn't mind havin' Sarah P. share some moose huntin' secrets
use a scope
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recusancy Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:22:17pm |
re: #180 albusteve
do what?...are you suggesting that illogical image meme again?...that's old and has been shot to pieces...your statement is irrational
Anything. We do things (in this case bring a terrorist to justice) on our terms. We chose where and when and how by our laws.
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albusteve Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:23:01pm |
re: #187 Dark_Falcon
Don't get Cato started on her wolf hunting. That's the trigger event for his despising her. And I can't blame him for that.
why?...explain wolves in Alaska to me
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Cineaste Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:23:16pm |
re: #171 albusteve
in a legal tribunal, KSM pleaded guilty and requested the DP, BO stopped the process, why?
I don't know. Ask him. Personally, I feel that there are a lot of potential issues with the MCA and it has faced more than it's share of legal obstacles because it was a poorly written piece of legislation. Also, moving him out of the tribunal now doesn't mean you can't put him back in one later unless I'm mistaken.
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albusteve Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:23:35pm |
re: #189 recusancy
Anything. We do things (in this case bring a terrorist to justice) on our terms. We chose where and when and how by our laws.
wtf?...no comprende
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Sharmuta Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:23:44pm |
re: #189 recusancy
You keep using this word "terrorist". I believe the proper term is "alleged criminal".
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recusancy Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:24:21pm |
re: #193 Sharmuta
You keep using this word "terrorist". I believe the proper term is "alleged criminal".
As you wish.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:24:28pm |
re: #182 Sharmuta
Jesus could make ten signed books ten thousand.
Did you see Raiders of the Lost Ark? I think one officially autographed copy of His book is all we need.
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recusancy Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:25:21pm |
re: #192 albusteve
wtf?...no comprende
Really?? He doesn't get to decide when he's tried and how his sentence is handed out. Not sure how else to phrase it.
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kobra_55 Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:26:00pm |
Have any of you Lizards read/plan to read Palin's book? Maybe in a few years I'll pick it up from the library just for a laugh.
One quote I've seen posted is, "If humans weren't meant to eat animals then why did God make them out of meat?" Hard to argue with that hard hitting logic.
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albusteve Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:26:18pm |
re: #191 Cineaste
I don't know. Ask him. Personally, I feel that there are a lot of potential issues with the MCA and it has faced more than it's share of legal obstacles because it was a poorly written piece of legislation. Also, moving him out of the tribunal now doesn't mean you can't put him back in one later unless I'm mistaken.
well that makes perfect sense doesn't it?...I don't think you understand what's going on here...is moving a defendant from one venue to another and back, recharching him Constitutional?...what's your beef with tribunals?
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Wozza Matter? Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:27:16pm |
re: #151 albusteve
Mccarthy opens with a screede about "leftist lawyers" derailing Bush Policy... who's policy as i pointed out above was knocked down in the ultra liberal Supreme Court in Rumsfeld Vs Hamdan on several specific points of law.
Also refusing to acknowledge any of the people there were innocent - as many were - and let go.
It's light on the legalesse to be substantive argument - the invective isn't helpful - and the fact that his Boss screwed up the creation of Military Commissions in the first instance is glossed over.
He doesn't lay out legally why people who can be proven to be involved in conspiracy against the US should not be tried there. He meanders around ignoring that many people ended up at Guantanamo after being sold down river for bounties in tribal areas and that once detained people who were not caught with gun in hand were not told why.
Idon't have a huge problem with people who fired guns at american or british soldiers being picked up and held for long periods of time without a defence lawyer. These trials in question are not the guys picked up in Afghanistan with AK-47's... these guys were involved in a conspiracy to mass murder.
I have read valuable legal materials until my eyes blead in my first couple of jobs and as a student - Mcarthy's writings are valueless as a study of Judicial policy, his emotiveness and all lack of objectivity provide for that.
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Sharmuta Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:27:43pm |
re: #194 recusancy
Defendants in federal court are alleged perpetrators until convicted, right?
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spinmore Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:28:01pm |
re: #197 kobra_55
Have any of you Lizards read/plan to read Palin's book? Maybe in a few years I'll pick it up from the library just for a laugh.
One quote I've seen posted is, "If humans weren't meant to eat animals then why did God make them out of meat?" Hard to argue with that hard hitting logic.
Be kind to animals . . . don't overcook them
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albusteve Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:28:49pm |
re: #196 recusancy
Really?? He doesn't get to decide when he's tried and how his sentence is handed out. Not sure how else to phrase it.
we decided that, the military, the president and the AG...I don't get you, KSM did not decide where or how he would be tried...stop this shit and go read the story, it's all there
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:29:07pm |
re: #193 Sharmuta
You keep using this word "terrorist". I believe the proper term is "alleged criminal".
No, Sharm they are terrorists.
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recusancy Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:29:28pm |
re: #200 Sharmuta
Defendants in federal court are alleged perpetrators until convicted, right?
Not sure what kind of fight you're trying to pick here. The Rudy G. argument in that Liberals don't use the words terror and terrorist enough and so you want me to say alleged criminal so you can jump on me for it?
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Decatur Deb Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:29:59pm |
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albusteve Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:30:12pm |
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:30:14pm |
re: #190 albusteve
why?...explain wolves in Alaska to me
I'll let Cato handle that. He knows the situation better than I do.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:30:48pm |
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Cato the Elder Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:31:05pm |
re: #197 kobra_55
One quote I've seen posted is, "If humans weren't meant to eat animals then why did God make them out of meat?" Hard to argue with that hard hitting logic.
That's in there, apparently, and I heard it at least fifteen years ago. Old, old joke. That's what you get when you hire a second-rate ghostwriter with the Windows 98 "Jokes-o-matic" software application on her 'puter.
The bigger question is, "If God made humans out of meat, what's wrong with being cannibals?"
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Cineaste Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:31:08pm |
re: #198 albusteve
well that makes perfect sense doesn't it?...I don't think you understand what's going on here...is moving a defendant from one venue to another and back, recharching him Constitutional?...what's your beef with tribunals?
I don't have any particular beef with tribunals, properly applied. I do have some issues with the MCA. But go back and reread what I wrote. You are allowed to charge people for different crimes in different venues and, frankly, you are sometimes even allowed to charge people with slightly different charges in the same crime in different venues (see: when a state court screws up a murder case and you are able to then bring federal hate crimes charges). So yes, in answer to your question, what I laid out above is absolutely constitutional. Charge him for 9/11 murders in federal court. Charge him for war crimes in a tribunal.
I saw all of the above but do it in the order that will give you the most bites at the Apple.
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Kruk Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:31:17pm |
re: #186 Jeff In Ohio
Jesus only loves you because he has to.
Jesus saves...and takes half damage.
Oh, please. Like the Son of God wouldn't have evasion.
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spinmore Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:32:19pm |
re: #207 Sharmuta
It's called sarcasm, Dear.
Like Charlie Brown said, "don't you know a sarcasm when you hear it?"
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Wozza Matter? Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:32:45pm |
re: #213 Kruk
only if he rolled +10 over double dice and had a suitable cloak
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keithgabryelski Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:33:05pm |
re: #197 kobra_55
One quote I've seen posted is, "If humans weren't meant to eat animals then why did God make them out of meat?" Hard to argue with that hard hitting logic.
Regurgitated bumper sticker quotes will serve her as well as her regurgitated "small government/protect the constitution" talking points.
Note: I'm not saying either are bad -- I'm saying she seems to not have an original thought in her heard and I bet couldn't elaborate on her positions, beyond the cutsie remarks" with any degree of success.
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Decatur Deb Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:33:36pm |
re: #211 Cato the Elder
(snip)"If God made humans out of meat, what's wrong with being cannibals?"
Koro.
[Link: www.google.com...]
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kobra_55 Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:34:04pm |
What I can't comprehend is that Palin seems to gain approval for every stupid thing she says. Apparently talking coherently is only for commie liberal elites and dangerous "RINOs" who wish to harm this country./
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Wozza Matter? Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:35:03pm |
re: #218 kobra_55
as far as i recall it has something to do with the 25%'ers hatred of "nuance"
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Sharmuta Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:35:07pm |
re: #213 Kruk
Jesus saves...and takes half damage.
Oh, please. Like the Son of God wouldn't have evasion.
Jesus saves. Moses invests.
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albusteve Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:35:11pm |
re: #209 Dark_Falcon
I'll let Cato handle that. He knows the situation better than I do.
you agree with whatever his point of view is...I thought maybe you could say why...it apparently has nothing to do with wildlife management and everything to do with shooting wolves from choppers...same with Cato, making a judgment with no knowledge
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Cato the Elder Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:35:29pm |
re: #190 albusteve
why?...explain wolves in Alaska to me
In Alaska, wolf-hunting is legal from helicopters.
Drunken wannabeßtough-guy CEOs "hunting" one of God's most intelligent, social creatures from the air, with the animal in abject terror the whole time and the yahoos can't tell a nursing mother from a male.
And Palin supported that.
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oh_dude Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:36:29pm |
Sounds like someone's got a little crush (cough!- obsession) on the Hockey Mom.
I'm a red-blooded American male and I vote based strictly on image. Can you guess who I'm voting for in 2012?
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Gus Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:37:12pm |
re: #197 kobra_55
Have any of you Lizards read/plan to read Palin's book? Maybe in a few years I'll pick it up from the library just for a laugh.
One quote I've seen posted is, "If humans weren't meant to eat animals then why did God make them out of meat?" Hard to argue with that hard hitting logic.
Here it is:
If any vegans came over for dinner, I could whip them up a salad, then explain my philosophy on being a carnivore: If God had not intended for us to eat animals, how come He made them out of meat?
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recusancy Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:37:14pm |
re: #223 oh_dude
Sounds like someone's got a little crush (cough!- obsession) on the Hockey Mom.
I'm a red-blooded American male and I vote based strictly on image. Can you guess who I'm voting for in 2012?
Palin/Prejean?
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Sharmuta Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:38:03pm |
re: #223 oh_dude
I'm a red-blooded American male and I vote based strictly on image. Can you guess who I'm voting for in 2012?
ron paul?
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:38:07pm |
re: #221 albusteve
you agree with whatever his point of view is...I thought maybe you could say why...it apparently has nothing to do with wildlife management and everything to do with shooting wolves from choppers...same with Cato, making a judgment with no knowledge
Actually, Steve, I don't take a position on the issue, because I know very little about it. I never said that I agreed with Cato, what I said was that I cannot blame Cato for holding it.
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Cineaste Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:38:27pm |
re: #227 kobra_55
Chuck Norris?
Chuck Norris doesn't do push ups. Chuck Norris pushes the earth down.
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kobra_55 Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:39:03pm |
re: #225 Gus 802
Thanks...The whole thing in context is even worse than the version of it I put up. Haha.
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Digital Display Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:39:27pm |
OT
I bought a dog Camera today to wear on his Collar...I figure Winston jumps from the lazyboy to the kitchen cabinet opens the kitchen drawer..Steals a pen..Jumps off and eats it...I can't find a pen in the house..
He is so busted.. Big brother buys the dog Camera!
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Cineaste Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:39:53pm |
And ps: go to google.com and type in "where is" and see what the auto-complete options are.
#2: "Where is Chuck Norris"
I love that everyone wants to know...
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Gus Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:40:12pm |
re: #231 kobra_55
Thanks...The whole thing in context is even worse than the version of it I put up. Haha.
Yeah. She's a regular old scientist. Let's see, kittens are "made of meat" doesn't mean I'm going to eat a kitten.
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Shiplord Kirel Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:40:23pm |
OT (but very important)
Female Swedish soldiers renew calls for fireproof undies
Women in the Swedish army are demanding the provision of military underwear designed for female forms after 30 years of having to slip into something less comfortable.
Asked whether women were in a rush to get access to specially tailored underwear, Katja Adolphson of the Swedish Conscription Council (Värnpliktsrådet) replied: "We've been in a rush for the last thirty years."
Despite the fact that they've been part of the Swedish Armed Forces for decades, female soldiers still have no choice but to don men's underwear or risk the perils of combat in flammable civilian bras and panties.
Female soldiers were previously told that their underwear wait would be over by the spring of 2009, but so far the goods have been unforthcoming.
"Each battalion has been given money to buy underwear for women, but since there are still no flame resistant alternatives available they have had to make do with civilian bras and panties," said Adolphson, who is responsible for air force-related matters within the Council.
She explained that, until the situation was resolved, women would continue to run the risk of suffering skin burns if their underwear caught fire in a combat situation.
Princess Madeleine should investigate.
As a public service to the Lizard Nation, I will be monitoring this situation and will report any updates as they become available.
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Cineaste Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:40:24pm |
re: #232 HoosierHoops
OT
I bought a dog Camera today to wear on his Collar...I figure Winston jumps from the lazyboy to the kitchen cabinet opens the kitchen drawer..Steals a pen..Jumps off and eats it...I can't find a pen in the house..
He is so busted.. Big brother buys the dog Camera!
where did you get that? I totally want one!
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Digital Display Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:40:53pm |
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Wozza Matter? Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:41:05pm |
re: #226 recusancy
too lightweight.
as-per t-shirt spotted at a teabagger rally -
Palin/Coulter 2012
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albusteve Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:41:05pm |
re: #222 Cato the Elder
In Alaska, wolf-hunting is legal from helicopters.
Drunken wannabeßtough-guy CEOs "hunting" one of God's most intelligent, social creatures from the air, with the animal in abject terror the whole time and the yahoos can't tell a nursing mother from a male.
And Palin supported that.
yup, that's the way it is...either that or deplete the moose population, it's a balance...your stereotypical rendering of the hunters has nothing to do with it...it's all business, and not for the squeemish hand wringers that project what a wolf is thinking...God has nothing to do with it
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kobra_55 Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:41:25pm |
re: #233 Cineaste
That number will go down when the Norris/Palin ticket wins in 2012. Everybody will know where he is.
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Racer X Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:41:27pm |
I just watched the video. Perfect example of why you should never worship politicians. They will almost always let you down.
Palin is no different - she has let many of her supporters down. I don't see Obama bucking that trend.
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Wozza Matter? Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:42:28pm |
re: #242 Racer X
he might hang around at a book signing... and may not quit 2 years into his first term as president...
(just sayin)
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Gus Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:43:31pm |
If God made meat because it was meant to be eaten by humans then that implies intelligent design. In that case it would have been easier if He made meat trees or other meat plants.
//
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Cineaste Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:43:40pm |
re: #237 HoosierHoops
Target..40 bucks!
I think I'm going to just set up my webcam with a timelapse recorder and see what we get.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:43:49pm |
re: #239 albusteve
yup, that's the way it is...either that or deplete the moose population, it's a balance...your stereotypical rendering of the hunters has nothing to do with it...it's all business, and not for the squeemish hand wringers that project what a wolf is thinking...God has nothing to do with it
If the moose population is so in danger of depletion, why did Sarah go hunting them? Why are Alaskans hunting them right now? A few wolves aren't going to do it.
And go fuck yourself for the hand-wringing comment.
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theheat Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:44:27pm |
I don't know what seems more stupid: waiting for hours to meet Sarah Palin, or waiting for hours to meet Sarah Palin in the freezing rain.
Things I'll never be caught doing.
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Gus Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:44:35pm |
Time to design some meat food. Let's stick under some thick leathery skin and make the thing go about 40 mph.
//
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Decatur Deb Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:44:36pm |
re: #244 Gus 802
If God made meat because it was meant to be eaten by humans then that implies intelligent design. In that case it would have been easier if He made meat trees or other meat plants.
//
Hot dogs that are easy to grab and peel.
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Gus Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:45:22pm |
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Racer X Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:45:56pm |
re: #250 Decatur Deb
Hot dogs that are easy to grab and peel.
Oh c'mon. Everyone knows that bananas are the perfect food. Hot dogs don't grow on trees ya know.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:46:05pm |
re: #252 Gus 802
Meat bananas!
Where's Ray Comfort?
I wanna see him show how easily they fit into his hand and mouth.
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Wozza Matter? Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:46:05pm |
g'night kids.
don't stay up too late - y'all know it just makes you cranky.
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Cineaste Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:46:11pm |
re: #241 kobra_55
That number will go down when the Norris/Palin ticket wins in 2012. Everybody will know where he is.
But Chuck Norris doesn't sign books... Chuck Norris breaks books with his knuckles and makes a book-ke-bab with your pen.
ps: You've got Palin as the undercard in that line-up?
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speakingtruthtogroupthink Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:46:14pm |
...and Santa was booed in Philadelphia during an Eagles game. What does that prove? That Philadelphia hates Santa? The people in line were disappointed not to be able to get time with her. Next "nontroversy" please.
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Racer X Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:46:51pm |
re: #255 Cato the Elder
I wanna see him show how easily they fit into his hand and mouth.
Uh, that channel is blocked at my house.
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Gus Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:47:07pm |
re: #254 Racer X
Oh c'mon. Everyone knows that bananas are the perfect food. Hot dogs don't grow on trees ya know.
Some folks prefer the chicken banana.
/
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Decatur Deb Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:47:28pm |
re: #245 Cineaste
I think I'm going to just set up my webcam with a timelapse recorder and see what we get.
Be careful. My son had to find a dogsitter to avoid giving up his/wife's job.
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kobra_55 Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:47:29pm |
re: #257 Cineaste
Definitely...even in my wildest dreams I can't imagine anybody nominating Palin for POTUS
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Cineaste Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:48:37pm |
re: #255 Cato the Elder
I wanna see him show how easily they fit into his hand and mouth.
I might be able to get my hand up his ass and operate him like a meat puppet but that don't mean God wanted me to...
:)
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:49:21pm |
re: #248 theheat
I don't know what seems more stupid: waiting for hours to meet Sarah Palin, or waiting for hours to meet Sarah Palin in the freezing rain.
Things I'll never be caught doing.
How about waiting ANYWHERE in the freezing rain when you don't have to while there is a influenza virus making the rounds?
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Cineaste Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:49:38pm |
re: #262 kobra_55
Definitely...even in my wildest dreams I can't imagine anybody nominating Palin for POTUS
You have much safer dreams than me. ;)
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albusteve Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:49:50pm |
re: #246 Cato the Elder
If the moose population is so in danger of depletion, why did Sarah go hunting them? Why are Alaskans hunting them right now? A few wolves aren't going to do it.
And go fuck yourself for the hand-wringing comment.
people eat moose as opposed to wolves...people pay big money to go up there and trophy hunt...one female calf will support a hell of alot of wolves, and if not controlled you will soon have a depleted moose population and an abnormally high wolf population that is diseased and starving...the whole thing has to be managed you doofus handwringer...why can't you figure this out for yourself?...stay out of the woods and shoot porkies in your garden
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Wozza Matter? Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:50:04pm |
re: #266 kobra_55
yup - he'd nominate Palin.
That whole torture of mortal souls vibe he has around him suggests it. What better way of heralding his arrival...
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Gus Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:50:09pm |
re: #255 Cato the Elder
I wanna see him show how easily they fit into his hand and mouth.
With his boy wonder actor? What's his face.
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Ojoe Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:50:30pm |
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borgcube Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:51:02pm |
Who would stand six hours in a line for a book signing for anyone? My wife dragged me once to an Amy Tan book signing and after only 20 minutes I was ready to bolt. Must be some of the same people who camp out in front of Best Buy for three days to maybe get a free iPod or something. What a waste.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:51:16pm |
re: #272 Ojoe
The pink sunset on the San Gabriel Mountains of California. The Towercam, Pacific time Zone.
Nature break.
ahhh! Beautiful.
Thank you.
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Wozza Matter? Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:51:53pm |
re: #269 albusteve
..people pay big money to go up there and trophy hunt...
and the Alaskan economy is still subsidised by the Fed's even with all that Green rolling in?...
/
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Ojoe Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:52:16pm |
re: #269 albusteve
Right you are about Nature and the population swings between herbivores and carnivores.
Nature is not always pretty & city folk do not understand it.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:52:47pm |
re: #258 speakingtruthtogroupthink
...and Santa was booed in Philadelphia during an Eagles game. What does that prove? That Philadelphia hates Santa? The people in line were disappointed not to be able to get time with her. Next "nontroversy" please.
This was not "come one, come all, and take your chances". These were 1,000 preselected people who had bought books in advance and had wristbands identifying them as the ones with every expectation of getting them signed. If Sarah's widdle hand got tired, she should have retreated to the bus and pleasured herself for half an hour, not just taken off.
Once a quitter, always a quitter, though.
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kobra_55 Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:52:49pm |
re: #268 Cineaste
I must dream under the assumption that the goal of the election is to have your side win.
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Decatur Deb Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:53:05pm |
re: #278 Ojoe
Right you are about Nature and the population swings between herbivores and carnivores.
Nature is not always pretty & city folk do not understand it.
"You can't eat scenery"
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Cathypop Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:54:18pm |
re: #244 Gus 802
If God made meat because it was meant to be eaten by humans then that implies intelligent design. In that case it would have been easier if He made meat trees or other meat plants.
//
He made cows.
Thank you God!
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Gus Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:54:24pm |
re: #281 Decatur Deb
"You can't eat scenery"
But I thought those were meat trees?
"Blanche, Blanche, you should have seen it honey. When we got to the summit there were meat trees as far and wide as the eye could see!"
//
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albusteve Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:55:16pm |
re: #277 wozzablog
and the Alaskan economy is still subsidised by the Fed's even with all that Green rolling in?...
/
every state and every citizen in them is subsidized by the feds...I missed your point I guess
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Ojoe Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:55:34pm |
re: #276 bosforus
I was a pinko at one time.
But it was only because I was tired of human folly.
I am still just as tired of folly, but I am not now a pinko, because I see more folly now than I did before.
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Decatur Deb Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:56:20pm |
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Cato the Elder Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:57:36pm |
re: #269 albusteve
people eat moose as opposed to wolves...people pay big money to go up there and trophy hunt...one female calf will support a hell of alot of wolves, and if not controlled you will soon have a depleted moose population and an abnormally high wolf population that is diseased and starving...the whole thing has to be managed you doofus handwringer...why can't you figure this out for yourself?...stay out of the woods and shoot porkies in your garden
If you think doughy pantload rich boys from the lower 48 shooting any creature from a helicopter = hunting, you wouldn't want to meet my relatives from Michigan who do it the old-fashioned way. On the ground.
The moose-wolf population was and is nowhere near the point you describe. Read up on it. It was done to please the pantywaist Nimrods with high-powered rifles and low-wattage brains who can afford a wild ride in the Alaskan sky.
Sometimes they don't even land to collect their "trophies".
*spit*
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Kruk Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:57:55pm |
re: #220 Sharmuta
Jesus saves, but Buddha makes incremental backups.
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Cineaste Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:58:53pm |
re: #280 kobra_55
I must dream under the assumption that the goal of the election is to have your side win.
I'm an independent. Never been a member of any political party. Odds of "my side" winning are slim-to-none. Unless Bloomberg runs.
Bloomberg-Booker 2016
(neither of them would run against Obama so I have to hope for 2016)
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Wozza Matter? Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:58:57pm |
re: #284 albusteve
in 2004 - 16 states paid more to the feds in taxes than they got back in fed spending.
Probably different 5 years on - but your reflexiveness doesn't lead me to believe you knew this was true back then...
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ghost ryder Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:59:19pm |
That sounded more like 5-6 unhappy campers than an "angry crowd". I've been to book signings and most authors typically sign anywhere from 20-200 books. If B&N really handed out 1000 wrist bracelets I would find that unreasonable to expect anyone to sign that many books.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Fri, Nov 20, 2009 4:59:40pm |
re: #281 Decatur Deb
"You can't eat scenery"
Actually, if you know what you're doing, you can eat scenery. What's important is to know what scenery NOT to eat.
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Decatur Deb Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:00:03pm |
re: #285 Ojoe
I was a pinko at one time.
But it was only because I was tired of human folly.
I am still just as tired of folly, but I am not now a pinko, because I see more folly now than I did before.
The child sees a mountain.
The adult sees chaos of crashing rocks, twisting trees, and plummeting waters. The wise old man sees a mountain.
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oh_dude Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:00:12pm |
re: #228 Sharmuta
Dude, did you not read my comment? Ron Paul's got a face that would chase a bear up a tree.
Unless the Dems can produce a chick hotter than Palin, I'm voting Republican.
That's is of course if she decides to run. It's funny, people are so afraid of her and she's not even a political official anymore.
I wonder what would happen if she did in fact win. The Starbucks/Whole Foods crowd in West L.A. would commit Hari-Kari
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Gus Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:00:54pm |
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Cato the Elder Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:00:59pm |
re: #281 Decatur Deb
"You can't eat scenery"
Tell that to any of the amateur actors you may happen to know...
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Decatur Deb Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:01:26pm |
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Sharmuta Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:01:39pm |
re: #295 oh_dude
First, I'm not a dude. Second, voting with your genitalia is nothing to be proud of.
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recusancy Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:01:40pm |
Check out what some MO Republicans are boasting about:
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Wozza Matter? Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:01:49pm |
re: #297 Cato the Elder
i wasn't going to go there with that... i should have.
the old jokes are the best.
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Gus Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:02:14pm |
re: #295 oh_dude
Dude, did you not read my comment? Ron Paul's got a face that would chase a bear up a tree.
Unless the Dems can produce a chick hotter than Palin, I'm voting Republican.
That's is of course if she decides to run. It's funny, people are so afraid of her and she's not even a political official anymore.
I wonder what would happen if she did in fact win. The Starbucks/Whole Foods crowd in West L.A. would commit Hari-Kari
Huh?
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kobra_55 Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:02:34pm |
re: #295 oh_dude
Michelle Obama isn't technically running for anything (yet) but she can totally hold her own with Palin. Plus you don't have to duct tape her mouth shut in order to find her attractive.
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albusteve Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:03:33pm |
re: #287 Cato the Elder
If you think doughy pantload rich boys from the lower 48 shooting any creature from a helicopter = hunting, you wouldn't want to meet my relatives from Michigan who do it the old-fashioned way. On the ground.
The moose-wolf population was and is nowhere near the point you describe. Read up on it. It was done to please the pantywaist Nimrods with high-powered rifles and low-wattage brains who can afford a wild ride in the Alaskan sky.
Sometimes they don't even land to collect their "trophies".
*spit*
I was born and raised in MI and hunted there my whole life and know as much as the next guy about fish and wildlife management...helicopters have to be used because of the distances involved and those Nimrods are funding the Akaska F and W Dept...you presume to know about their business up there than they do which is laughable...and no I probably wouldn't want to meet your relatives, but for other reasons than swapping hunting stories...I'm underwhelmed
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SeaMonkey Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:04:00pm |
re: #291 ghost ryder
That sounded more like 5-6 unhappy campers than an "angry crowd". I've been to book signings and most authors typically sign anywhere from 20-200 books. If B&N really handed out 1000 wrist bracelets I would find that unreasonable to expect anyone to sign that many books.
Exactly. This is not a big deal except for people desperate to put Palin down. Zzzz. Next!
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Wozza Matter? Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:04:04pm |
ok. again. i am off.
g'night.
oh - and mazeltov - it's been civil(ish) ;-)
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:04:22pm |
re: #304 Gus 802
Huh?
It's simple, Gus. You know what they say about the small head ruling the big head? That's oh_dude in a nutshell.
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bosforus Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:04:53pm |
re: #295 oh_dude
Unless the Dems can produce a chick hotter than Palin, I'm voting Republican.
Ha ha ha, classic.
It's funny, people are so afraid of her and she's not even a political official anymore.
This is an absurd Rush Limbaugh talking point. Why do people assume that just because someone is being ridiculed that that means the ridiculer is afraid of the ridiculed? It's a complete and utter non-sequitur. We're ridiculing her because she's a dingbat! I guess in a sense, yes, we're afraid that a dingbat would achieve any position of relevance. So I guess in that sense you're right; we're absolutely terrified of her!
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Gus Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:05:12pm |
re: #309 Dark_Falcon
It's simple, Gus. You know what they say about the small head ruling the big head? That's oh_dude in a nutshell.
The Popeye principle.
The one-eyed bandit doing the thinking.
/
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recusancy Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:05:23pm |
re: #306 albusteve
I was born and raised in MI and hunted there my whole life and know as much as the next guy about fish and wildlife management...helicopters have to be used because of the distances involved and those Nimrods are funding the Akaska F and W Dept...you presume to know about their business up there than they do which is laughable...and no I probably wouldn't want to meet your relatives, but for other reasons than swapping hunting stories...I'm underwhelmed
Do they need to shoot from the helicopters. Those big tough outdoorsmen can't walk and track like proper hunters?
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kobra_55 Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:06:38pm |
re: #306 albusteve
Lots of Michigan folks around here. I hunted when I was younger myself, but now I don't really see any sport in it. I enjoy "shooting" game with my digital camera more than I ever did with a bow or a gun.
As far as Helicopters go I'm sure that some are used legitimately as transportation but I have to agree with Cato overall.
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bosforus Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:06:56pm |
re: #303 Ojoe
I just imagined sitting on a rock somewhere in the San Gabriel mountains as you stare into the sunset telling me your thoughts. A warm breeze blew through the air and all things were understood.
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albusteve Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:06:59pm |
re: #290 wozzablog
in 2004 - 16 states paid more to the feds in taxes than they got back in fed spending.
Probably different 5 years on - but your reflexiveness doesn't lead me to believe you knew this was true back then...
some states subsidize others disproportionately through the feds...
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Cato the Elder Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:07:26pm |
re: #295 oh_dude
I wonder what would happen if she did in fact win. The Starbucks/Whole Foods crowd in West L.A. would commit Hari-Kari
I believe you mean hara-kiri.
Hari Kiri is a Russian-Hindu comedian.
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Wozza Matter? Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:08:54pm |
re: #316 albusteve
yup. mostly the bluestates subsidising the red ones as the list goes.
GOP = tax cutters = GOP states need more money...
as Homer Simpson would say...
mmm causality
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albusteve Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:09:04pm |
re: #313 recusancy
Do they need to shoot from the helicopters. Those big tough outdoorsmen can't walk and track like proper hunters?
don't be stupid...walk 15mi through the snow and have the target pack sitting there waiting for you?...is this what you are asking?
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Ojoe Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:09:47pm |
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kobra_55 Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:09:55pm |
re: #317 Cato the Elder
I believe he/she meant Harry Caray. Let's get some runs!
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albusteve Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:10:32pm |
re: #314 kobra_55
Lots of Michigan folks around here. I hunted when I was younger myself, but now I don't really see any sport in it. I enjoy "shooting" game with my digital camera more than I ever did with a bow or a gun.
As far as Helicopters go I'm sure that some are used legitimately as transportation but I have to agree with Cato overall.
you cannot lure a wolf to you across many miles with a dog bone...do you have a better idea?
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Cato the Elder Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:11:48pm |
re: #323 albusteve
you cannot lure a wolf to you across many miles with a dog bone...do you have a better idea?
How about not hunting wolves unnecessarily when they're not depleting anything but your fucking treasury?
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billbrent Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:14:29pm |
Oh good grief! I hear one unhappy woman screaming "Sign our books!" and one man booing. Doesn't look or sound to me like "the crowd turned on her." Reasonable people understand that an author often cannot sign every book, especially if there is a large crowd.
How about posting this: Al Gore saying, on Conan O'Brien's show, that the center of the Earth is several millions of degrees, which is several orders of magnitude hotter than the surface of the sun!
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oh_dude Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:14:51pm |
re: #305 kobra_55
Dude you're so high. Put down the crack pipe before you hurt yourself.
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albusteve Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:15:24pm |
re: #325 Cato the Elder
How about not hunting wolves unnecessarily when they're not depleting anything but your fucking treasury?
I'll let the Alaskans decide what numbers are appropriate...consider that...there are plenty of PETAheads up there to oversee "wolf production'...ahahaha!
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kobra_55 Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:15:33pm |
re: #323 albusteve
I honestly haven't spent much time considering effective strategies for hunting wolves in Alaska, but I can tell you that I don't understand how someone could be proud of themselves killing a wild animal from a helicopter. Why don't you just plot the wolves' position on a computer and call in an airstrike? Then you don't even have to bother aiming the gun and pulling the trigger. When you hunt things with a helicopter, it isn't about the thrill of the hunt, it's about killing.
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oh_dude Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:17:18pm |
re: #317 Cato the Elder
I was gonna put "Seppuku" but I don't think anyone would get it. (Except for people who saw Ronin")
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webevintage Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:20:40pm |
re: #327 billbrent
Oh good grief! I hear one unhappy woman screaming "Sign our books!" and one man booing. Doesn't look or sound to me like "the crowd turned on her." Reasonable people understand that an author often cannot sign every book, especially if there is a large crowd.
Sure, reasonable people might, but authors who really appreciate their fans sign for hours and hours longer then they might have planned.
Been on line, seen it done.
No reason to piss off your best supporters and then blame someone else.
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oh_dude Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:21:50pm |
re: #311 bosforus
utter non-sequitur
HA HA!
Dude you've got to be a Liberal (or a college professor). They always want people to know how smart and sophisticated they are.
Please, please, please say the word "canard" and prove how perceptive I am.
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albusteve Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:22:21pm |
re: #330 kobra_55
I honestly haven't spent much time considering effective strategies for hunting wolves in Alaska, but I can tell you that I don't understand how someone could be proud of themselves killing a wild animal from a helicopter. Why don't you just plot the wolves' position on a computer and call in an airstrike? Then you don't even have to bother aiming the gun and pulling the trigger. When you hunt things with a helicopter, it isn't about the thrill of the hunt, it's about killing.
do you think I have no consideration for trophy hunting, and exotic methods to hunt them?...I do, but I also understand that management is the key to a healthy and thriving game resource...I would not shoot a wolf let alone from a helicopter, but it's a matter of math and efficiency...we are not talking raising chickens for a cookout and people have to understand that
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:23:35pm |
re: #331 oh_dude
I was gonna put "Seppuku" but I don't think anyone would get it. (Except for people who saw Ronin")
I'd get it. Seppuku is the proper term for the type of ritual suicide carried out by members of Japan's Samurai class. Even today, at rare intervals there will be someone in Japan who kills himself in that way, usually to avoid a perceived dishonor.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:24:57pm |
re: #333 oh_dude
HA HA!
Dude you've got to be a Liberal (or a college professor). They always want people to know how smart and sophisticated they are.
You, on the other hand, seem to have the opposite desire.
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jonik Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:27:11pm |
re: #318 wozzablog
Yup here we are in the big blue state California, with an overwhelming liberal majority in both houses and a 21 Billion dollar budget shortfall. Sounds like we sent too much money to them damn red states again. However, we have nothing to fear because our fearless leader the Governator says he will go to DC and "get da money"
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Decatur Deb Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:27:48pm |
re: #333 oh_dude
Please, please, please say the word "canard" and prove how perceptive I am.
Canard and science mean anything to the willful dudes?
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albusteve Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:28:32pm |
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SixDegrees Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:28:58pm |
re: #324 wozzablog
live human bait.
Wolves don't seem particularly interested in humans. As far as I know, there has never been a person killed by wolves in North America.
As far as hunting goes, a guy I used to work with used to go down to the Carolinas once a year to hunt wild boar. His weapon of choice was a spear. Which is about as hard core as anything I can imagine.
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albusteve Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:30:27pm |
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:32:21pm |
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oh_dude Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:34:10pm |
re: #344 checked08
I've been a poster at LGF since 2004? (You can check if you don't believe me) Some times I say things that people like, some times I don't.
Who the fuck are you?
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albusteve Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:36:56pm |
re: #346 oh_dude
I've been a poster at LGF since 2004? (You can check if you don't believe me) Some times I say things that people like, some times I don't.
Who the fuck are you?
you are a noob...you rarely have posted in all that time
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oh_dude Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:39:50pm |
re: #347 albusteve
Oh sorry, I'm not in 1000000 posters club you stud (or maybe I have a life). I never thought I'd see the day that this site would have a merit system.
I'm Sorry all-mighty albusteve, I'll go to the back of the bus, you are clearly superior to me.
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albusteve Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:41:34pm |
re: #350 oh_dude
Oh sorry, I'm not in 1000000 posters club you stud (or maybe I have a life). I never thought I'd see the day that this site would have a merit system.
I'm Sorry all-mighty albusteve, I'll go to the back of the bus, you are clearly superior to me.
what's your point?...there are only noobs and the rest, not much of a system...got a topic?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:42:38pm |
re: #350 oh_dude
Don't you have a Girls Gone Wild DVD you should be watching right now?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:44:27pm |
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albusteve Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:45:14pm |
re: #353 oh_dude
Weak.
why don't you come on up to the next thread and join in?...it will pick up steam, might be fun
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:49:02pm |
re: #352 WindUpBird
Don't you have a Girls Gone Wild DVD you should be watching right now?
Oh, snap!
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oh_dude Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:51:41pm |
re: #351 albusteve
My point is what's with the hostility? Did I say something wrong? Am I not following the script here? You call me a "noob" (btw-you need to get some new Internet slang, 'noob' is sooo 2007)
Have you actually read any of my past posts? Do you know me?
When LGF started, Charles was telling us how many left-wing kooks were out there. Now that O's in office, he's telling us how many right-wing wing-nuts are out there. So, unless you are right down the center politcially don't you think that would ruffle some feathers?
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oh_dude Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:55:22pm |
re: #355 albusteve
No thanks. According to albusteve however, I do need to work on my post quota to be "somebody" on LGF.
I'd rather take my wife to dinner. Have a good one.
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albusteve Fri, Nov 20, 2009 5:56:14pm |
re: #357 oh_dude
My point is what's with the hostility? Did I say something wrong? Am I not following the script here? You call me a "noob" (btw-you need to get some new Internet slang, 'noob' is sooo 2007)
Have you actually read any of my past posts? Do you know me?
When LGF started, Charles was telling us how many left-wing kooks were out there. Now that O's in office, he's telling us how many right-wing wing-nuts are out there. So, unless you are right down the center politcially don't you think that would ruffle some feathers?
he's right upstairs and you can ask him yourself...no I don't know you but that's another matter...I don't think anyone has it out for you...many old posters are long gone...it's different around here now
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Racer X Fri, Nov 20, 2009 6:05:36pm |
re: #352 WindUpBird
Don't you have a Girls Gone Wild DVD you should be watching right now?
Link?
/kidding!
I have it.
/ / / / KIDDING!
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speakingtruthtogroupthink Fri, Nov 20, 2009 6:07:32pm |
re: #279 Cato the Elder
Good ol' Cato, you are so twisted you can see straight from your front porch. You never disappoint.
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albusteve Fri, Nov 20, 2009 6:08:36pm |
re: #361 speakingtruthtogroupthink
Good ol' Cato, you are so twisted you can see straight from your front porch. You never disappoint.
he's upstairs doofus
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joest1973 Fri, Nov 20, 2009 6:55:44pm |
To be fair the Palin do you think the turnout was so high that some people
just couldn't get a book signed.
As far as Palin being qualified to be POTUS, how is she less qualified than
Obama?
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Claire Fri, Nov 20, 2009 7:05:12pm |
re: #63 Shiplord Kirel, et al,
My executive order to change the half-life of ura-na-nium still stands, since we all know that nothing can take more than 6000 years. The Bible says so!
She does NOT think the earth is 6000 years old, and I do not think she's anti-science at all. You should read the book.
(And if you say all she does is complain in the book, you haven't really read it yet, have you?)
Annnddd... why does the video end just when you can hear her come out of bus and say "Hey guys..."?
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Liechtentrager Fri, Nov 20, 2009 7:08:41pm |
re: #364 joest1973
You're on the wrong blog -- this one is the Palin ridicule site. Has been for a while. See #359 above: "many old posters are long gone...it's different around here now": possibly the most accurate observation in the entire thread.
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joest1973 Fri, Nov 20, 2009 7:13:42pm |
re: #366 Liechtentrager
After watching that video a few times it seems like the few people that were yelling were standing around the person taking the video. In fact, the person taking the video seems to be yelling... as the Church Lady would say...
How convenient!
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Locker Fri, Nov 20, 2009 7:19:11pm |
re: #106 jonik
Are you kidding me? The left acts like its terrified of her. Who else is getting this much attention. Seriously the left has substituted Sarah Palin for George Bush in their daily rants. Just watch MSNBC for 10 minutes. Every show, and I mean every show starts off with Sarah Palin news. The left is sh*tting their pants thinking Sarah Palin may get the nomination. I don't think she should; I wouldn't vote for her, but the left is terrified of her; watch the news and listen to the talking heads.
Do you not know anyone on the left or something. Do you know how happy we would be for Sarah Palin to get the Republican Presidential nomination? It would be good times in liberal land as she as seen as a candidate who doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell of winning.
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RealismRox Fri, Nov 20, 2009 7:21:49pm |
re: #365 Claire
I haven't read Palin's book but I did watch Geraldine Ferraro on with Sustren last night talking about it. Ferraro was saying that she was surprised that Palin sort of double-talks on creationism in the book, because the base doesn't want that. I think if Palin is serious about being a contender in 2012, she's can't go full-out with the young earth creationism stuff.
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Liechtentrager Fri, Nov 20, 2009 7:28:37pm |
re: #368 Locker
Do you not know anyone on the left or something. Do you know how happy we would be for Sarah Palin to get the Republican Presidential nomination? It would be good times in liberal land as she as seen as a candidate who doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell of winning.
It wouldn't be the first time liberal land was wrong. I suspect the same thing was said about Nixon after he got thrashed by Kennedy; or about Reagan in 1976. And a lot of people, right and left, were saying the same thing about Obama when he became a candidate for President.
Not that I am comparing Palin to any of them! Oh, no, not me!
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Nov 20, 2009 7:36:53pm |
Schadenfreude ist die schönste Freude.
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prairiefire Fri, Nov 20, 2009 7:42:27pm |
I am bringing the outrage over her overplucked eyebrows. Did she suffer hair loss from stress? Her eyebrows are now drawn on and have too much arch. That's all I got in re: Palin.
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joest1973 Fri, Nov 20, 2009 7:43:49pm |
re: #370 Liechtentrager
It wouldn't be the first time liberal land was wrong. I suspect the same thing was said about Nixon after he got thrashed by Kennedy; or about Reagan in 1976. And a lot of people, right and left, were saying the same thing about Obama when he became a candidate for President.
Not that I am comparing Palin to any of them! Oh, no, not me!
Palin is an adequate target for the media. Every minute they talk about her is one less they need to defend a unqualified amature in-over-his-head President. It is funny how some of the things you hear on MSNBC about Palin could still be said about Obama almost one year into his first term.
Who knows what will happen with Palin. The media right or wrong has already defined her. She will have an uphill battle convincing those people that know only what NBC, ABC, and CBS thinks is fit to air.
Obama will go the way the economy goes. If the economy rebounds then
he will get re-elected. If it gets worse or stagnates then he is in trouble.
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Dr. Shalit Fri, Nov 20, 2009 7:46:05pm |
re: #40 bosforus
Good point. Maybe you should GTFO of here then. You don't think it's substantial that this mindless entity that is Palin has a significant following and stature in politics in America?
bosforus -
The elected governor of a US State IS, by definition more than a mindless entity. That said, Sarah Palin, now back in Private Enterprise SHOULD do everything possible to "Keep the Customer Satisfied - Sat-Is Fied!" That is all.
-S-
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Ojoe Fri, Nov 20, 2009 8:03:51pm |
re: #375 Dr. Shalit
I would not at all be surprised to see Palin as the first female POTUS.
She just has to work at some things.
Here is Victor Hansons opinion:
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Claire Fri, Nov 20, 2009 8:04:47pm |
re: #369 RealismRox
I haven't read Palin's book but I did watch Geraldine Ferraro on with Sustren last night talking about it. Ferraro was saying that she was surprised that Palin sort of double-talks on creationism in the book, because the base doesn't want that. I think if Palin is serious about being a contender in 2012, she's can't go full-out with the young earth creationism stuff.
I don't think she's hiding young-earth creationism. More like she's trying to say she sees the hand of God in Man's creation, but she has heard all her life that evolution necessarily removes the "hand of God" from the process. If her viewpoint evolves to " I see evolution as the method God used to create man, I would be a lot happier about it, because this is what she says about the rest of the earth, but leaves ambiguous about Man. This is actually fairly mainstream for Christians in the US. But she says directly, even in the Runner's world interview that she not a YEC.
Anyway, she also says about the whole birth control thing- I couldn't say "abstinence" because that drove the left nuts, and I couldn't say "contraception" because the Republican Party said it sent a double message! She's not just a tool for the Republican Party at this point. She thought that totally sucked. There really is an independent person in there, and I'm interested in how she can develop that.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Nov 20, 2009 8:09:29pm |
I have never, and will never understand the people who adore and gush over her like it's 1964 and she's the Beatles.
I liked John McCain up until Palin was announced as running mate. I immediately thought that either 1) McCain wasn't making his own decisions; 2) it was a transparently cynical ploy to butt-kiss the right-wingers who had spent the last 10 years calling him everything but "friend"; or 3) he decided he didn't really want to be President after all, and there was no face-saving way for him to back out... thus, a terrible VP was necessary.
I continue to be flabbergasted by those, including several in my immediate family, who somehow think Sarah Palin is presidential material (while simultaneously crowing about how Obama is supposedly such a featherweight).
Even more astonishing to me are the people who insist that the reason people criticize her are because they are "AFRAID" of her, as though she is a juggernaut of irrefutable intellectual prowess whose acumen can do nothing but force the intelligentsia into cowardly tail-tucked retreat.
Really, it's like asserting that the reason fans of Stravinsky and Mahler dislike Britney Spears is only because they're afraid she'll demonstrate how inherently inferior they are.
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Liechtentrager Fri, Nov 20, 2009 8:14:39pm |
re: #378 negativ
Really, it's like asserting that the reason fans of Stravinsky and Mahler dislike Britney Spears is only because they're afraid she'll demonstrate how inherently inferior they are.
You can like Mahler AND Britney Spears, for different reasons.
/
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cliffster Fri, Nov 20, 2009 8:14:57pm |
re: #378 negativ
How long did it take you to type all that? That's a lot of effort you've exerted over someone who you claim to be the intellectual equivalent of Britney Spears...
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Nov 20, 2009 8:19:21pm |
re: #380 cliffster
How long did it take you to type all that? That's a lot of effort you've exerted over someone who you claim to be the intellectual equivalent of Britney Spears...
Not very long. I don't find it especially difficult to type simple declarative sentences, though in a strange way I am flattered that you seem to find it extraordinary.
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Silvergirl Fri, Nov 20, 2009 8:56:42pm |
Sarah Palin apologizes for leaving 100 books unsigned in Indiana
Palin quickly addressed the disgruntled crowd in a Facebook post titled "Not enough hours in the day.""We are working on a solution for those who were left behind," she wrote. A revisit?
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Ojoe Fri, Nov 20, 2009 10:16:54pm |
re: #382 Silvergirl
IMHO Palin is not to be counted out by any means.
I think she stands a good chance of being the POTUS.
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Locker Fri, Nov 20, 2009 10:54:09pm |
re: #370 Liechtentrager
It wouldn't be the first time liberal land was wrong. I suspect the same thing was said about Nixon after he got thrashed by Kennedy; or about Reagan in 1976. And a lot of people, right and left, were saying the same thing about Obama when he became a candidate for President.
Not that I am comparing Palin to any of them! Oh, no, not me!
I didn't say they were right, I said they weren't scared of her or of a nomination. They may be wrong but I think the independents spoke last time she tried to enter the race as VP and they sure aren't going to be more enthused with her as a Presidential candidate. Especially after she quit her last elected position. I for one would be happy and amused if she were to get the nomination.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 20, 2009 11:49:09pm |
re: #383 Ojoe
IMHO Palin is not to be counted out by any means.
I think she stands a good chance of being the POTUS.
I don't think she has a snowball's chance in hell. And this, AFAIK, is a good thing.
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Bagua Sat, Nov 21, 2009 2:19:47am |
#36 [deleted] ScienceBoy
1 comment in nearly 3 years and it is deleted, how sock-like.
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Ojoe Sat, Nov 21, 2009 6:19:15am |
re: #385 SanFranciscoZionist
You may or may not like her. I liked her at first. Now, not so much. But still, more than Obama, Mr. "punished with a baby."
And at about 25% into the Obama presidency: huge deficits, huge unemployment and a huge, continual, one year long shouting match about "health care."
IMHO Palin stands a real chance.
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acacia Sat, Nov 21, 2009 7:25:07am |
Talk about a nontroversy. This surely is one. The article cited shows she was there for 3 1/2 hours signing books just like she was promised. I'm pretty sure that's a long time for a book signing. The article then states:
'Several dozen people who had wristbands were turned away.
"They didn't have this organized well enough," said Sue Hendricks. "It was just not done right."
This seems to be a Borders problem not a Palin problem. Aside from apologizing, which she apparently didn't do, I don't see her doing anything wrong. What 40-50 people didn't get a book signed because Borders handed out too many wristbands? Not an issue. Besides, I'm sure Borders erred on the side of handing out too many than too few so that there wouldn't be a frenzy after the wristband people had their books signed.
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akarra Sat, Nov 21, 2009 8:06:56am |
She's definitely got to send an apology, pronto, and find some way of making it up to the people who waited in line and had wristbands - actually, their having wristbands helps hugely, it makes it possible to know who exactly is owed a signed copy of the book and maybe a personal note or something.
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akarra Sat, Nov 21, 2009 8:07:55am |
re: #382 Silvergirl
Sarah Palin apologizes for leaving 100 books unsigned in Indiana
Thank you! Didn't see this before I posted.
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gregb Sat, Nov 21, 2009 8:49:43am |
In the news clip, they showed a picture of the cover page with her signature on it. Out of an over-abundance of curiousity, I thought I'd give it the old amateur whirl.
Here is the screen shot I captured from the news clip with her sig.
Here is the form I used to do the handwriting analysis.
[Link: handwriting.feedbucket.com...]
Here is the embedded code it returned: (Preview is my friend)
What does your handwriting say about YOU?
Here are the results of the analysis:
You fill every waking moment with activity.
You are a social person who likes to talk and meet others.
You are negative, fearful, resistant, doubtful, and/or selfish.
You are reserved, shy, cautious, and thoughtful.
You are self-confident and like to bring attention to yourself.
The third one seems the most negative, but I'm sure you could spin it either way. I share her same doubts and fears about the direction of the country.
Alone in a Bathroom: The Fear and Uncertainty of a Post-Roe Medication Abortion Angel tucked two white pills into each side of her mouth, bracing herself as they began to dissolve. Her deepest fears and anxieties took over. Angel had wanted to talk to a doctor before she took the pills to ...
Cheechako
They Were Desperate to Get Pregnant. Then IVF Gave Them Extra Embryos. One morning last spring, Ashley Harrolle put her 1-year-old daughter down for a nap and went to the kitchen. She pulled up her fertility clinic’s contact information. It was time to make the call. In a freezer several hundred ... CheechakoJoe Bacon ✅
March FavoritesYou've seen these all already but looking back, just because. These are my favorite shots of this last month. That 1937 Zeiss Sonnar is such a gloriously wonderful bit of glass. Thanks for looking.
William Lewis
Russia’s New Combat Robots Blown Up by Drones Near Avdiivka When we landed on the moon, I thought about how science fiction had become real. Now, the robot wars have begun. It's more poignant somehow on the ground than in the missile wars we have in the air as ...
Rightwingconspirator
Why Did More Than 1,000 People Die After Police Subdued Them With Force That Isn’t Meant to Kill? An investigation led by The Associated Press has found that, over a decade, more than 1,000 people died after police subdued them through physical holds, stun guns, body blows and other force not intended to be lethal. More: Why ... CheechakoKGxvi
Abortions Outside Medical System Increased Sharply After Roe Fell, Study Finds The number of women using abortion pills to end their pregnancies on their own without the direct involvement of a U.S.-based medical provider rose sharply in the months after the Supreme Court eliminated a constitutional right to abortion, according ... Cheechako
Once Praised, the Settlement to Help Sickened BP Oil Spill Workers Leaves Most With Nearly Nothing When a deadly explosion destroyed BP’s Deepwater Horizon drilling rig in the Gulf of Mexico, 134 million gallons of crude erupted into the sea over the next three months — and tens of thousands of ordinary people were hired ... Cheechako
Texas County at Center of Border Fight Is Overwhelmed by Migrant Deaths EAGLE PASS, Tex. - The undertaker lighted a cigarette and held it between his latex-gloved fingers as he stood over the bloated body bag lying in the bed of his battered pickup truck. The woman had been fished out ... Cheechako
