How lovely!

What a beautiful sight. It makes me feel lonesome, though. My former husband died this afternoon. He was a good man, and I'll miss him.

Charles' camera must be a Nikon or Canon.

'nite Sharm.

re: #4 katemaclaren

Good night, Kate!

Because it's worth posting again:

Hey Lizards!

Have you heard anything about the aftermath of Fort Hood? How is the community coping? Does anyone care?

The USO does. Providing grief counselling and simple things like coffee in USO Mobile Canteens 24/7. Something you don't hear about on the news, but which needs our support. Minimum donation is $5. It adds up.

YOU can learn more and donate at www.uso.org

Still doing chores AND totally enjoying the EscapePod podcasts. FREE well-narrated and mostly good SciFi short stories. Did I mention it's FREE.

How are you-all doing?

re: #7 ggt

How are you-all doing?

I'm doing really great tonight, {ggt}. It was a good day, and a nice evening.

Hope you're doing great too.

re: #8 Sharmuta

I'm doing really great tonight, {ggt}. It was a good day, and a nice evening.

Hope you're doing great too.

Good to hear.

I'm the same, hangin' in there. In an escapist Fiction frenzy--can't handle current events or non-fiction too much. I think it will be that way thru 2012--:)

Thanks for askin'.

can't stay.

weet dreams all!

An ad between the first and second articles states:

The Barack Obama Bronze Collector's Busts

Isn't that a rehash of a recent SNL skit?

Across the pond:
Arrests are being made 'to expand DNA files'

Police are routinely arresting people simply to record their DNA profiles on the national database, according to a report published today.

It also states that three quarters of young black men are on the database. The finding risks stigmatising a whole section of society, the equality watchdog has warned.

The revelations will fuel the debate about the DNA database, the world’s largest. [snip]

Is that a boat I see... so forlorn on the edge of the sea... rocks to greet it ... and the fog to chase it?

Chasing the days, they are growing short. Only 31 more days to go till Christmas.

This one is for the rocky shoals:

Despite all the carping about Steele's tenure at the helm of the RNC, he seems to be doing the job he was hired to do, and in style:

RNC reports nearly $9 million cash haul last month.

Yikes, even the moonbat himself is jumping ship...

By George Monbiot, published in the Guardian, 23rd November 2009

It’s no use pretending that this isn’t a major blow. The emails extracted by a hacker from the climatic research unit at the University of East Anglia could scarcely be more damaging(1). I am now convinced that they are genuine, and I’m dismayed and deeply shaken by them.

Yes, the messages were obtained illegally. Yes, all of us say things in emails that would be excruciating if made public. Yes, some of the comments have been taken out of context. But there are some messages that require no spin to make them look bad. There appears to be evidence here of attempts to prevent scientific data from being released(2,3), and even to destroy material that was subject to a freedom of information request(4).

Worse still, some of the emails suggest efforts to prevent the publication of work by climate sceptics(5,6), or to keep it out of a report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change(7). I believe that the head of the unit, Phil Jones, should now resign. Some of the data discussed in the emails should be re-analysed.

The Knights Carbonic

No he is not becoming a sceptic, and he correctly states:

But do these revelations justify the sceptics’ claims that this is “the final nail in the coffin” of global warming theory?(8,9) Not at all. They damage the credibility of three or four scientists. They raise questions about the integrity of one or perhaps two out of several hundred lines of evidence. To bury manmade climate change, a far wider conspiracy would have to be revealed

However, seeing what I quoted eminating from George Monbiot in the Gruniad is quite a shock.

I've been hit by Anti-virus Sysem Pro virus, any geeks around?

re: #16 sngnsgt

I've been hit by Anti-virus Sysem Pro virus, any geeks around?

It's not really a virus, more like Scareware trying to get you to buy its product with fake security alerts.

Here is a link to removing it with the detail at the bottom.

Hello all- how are we this fine eve?

re: #17 Bagua

Thanks for the link, work in progress...

Is Monbiot's site down? It won't open for me.

re: #20 Spare O'Lake

Is Monbiot's site down? It won't open for me.

Never mind, it just opened.

re: #16 sngnsgt

I've been hit by Anti-virus Sysem Pro virus, any geeks around?

re: #17 Bagua

It's not really a virus, more like Scareware trying to get you to buy its product with fake security alerts.

Here is a link to removing it with the detail at the bottom.

Good link. Didn't know about rkill.com Thanks for that.

I've encountered Antivirus Pro 2010 two or three times in the past month on laptops I've been asked to examine. Each time, there was a trojan found also, with a close match of date/time info to the rogue antivirus directories & files. Don't recall the name. I've found it useful to run mbam.exe (MalwareBytes Anti-malware) in safemode, with the full-scan option, at least once.

Spybot S&D is good too. Its immunize tool can help prevent re-infection by blocking lots of bad sites on the net (for IE & Firefox). Ditto for its hosts file option, regardless of what browser you use.

re: #21 Spare O'Lake

Never mind, it just opened.

Are you talking to yourself?

re: #17 Bagua

It's not really a virus, more like Scareware trying to get you to buy its product with fake security alerts.

Here is a link to removing it with the detail at the bottom.

My college is selling NOD32 4.0 at educational prices, is it really 'the best' as they say it is?

re: #23 Walter L. Newton

Are you talking to yourself?

Yes. I better try to get another hour of shuteye. Later.

re: #24 laZardo

Jeez...what's the latest on that massacre in the south, LaZardo?

re: #26 Fenway_Nation

Good Morning how's things in the chilly NorthEast?

re: #27 soxfan4life

Not that chilly and...not that Northeast, soxfan.

/Altho' I'm sure Pyongyang is North and East of somewhere...

re: #26 Fenway_Nation

Jeez...what's the latest on that massacre in the south, LaZardo?

47 bodies confirmed, whoever used this made use of an excavator. Signs are pointing toward inter-clan warlordism instead of the MILFs.

/it's hard to take terrorists seriously when they name their organization like that.

re: #29 laZardo

Signs are pointing toward inter-clan warlordismfare instead of the MILFs.

PIMF.

re: #29 laZardo

47 bodies confirmed, whoever used this made use of an excavator. Signs are pointing toward inter-clan warlordism instead of the MILF.

Had me a run-in with one of those back in June...

Oh wait- you meant the Moro Islamic Liberation Front.

re: #28 Fenway_Nation

How about Mangini running his mouth in Cleveland?

re: #27 soxfan4life

Oh...and I found two working steam locomotives for sale in northern California (the trick is, only one of them was adertised as such).

Not that I can do anything with them...but good to know they're still out there and not being cut up for scrap metal.

re: #29 laZardo

Bring back Black Jack Pershing.

re: #32 soxfan4life

How about Mangini running his mouth in Cleveland?

The Man-gina is the one person in the world who doesn't have to worry about identity thedt right now.

Serioulsy, who in their right fucking mind would want to be Eric Mangini? Any Browns fans here miss Romeo Crennell right about now?

re: #35 Fenway_Nation

Maybe Charlie Weiss, that would be about it.

re: #36 soxfan4life

Meanwhile, somebody needs to call Rex Ryan the waaahmbulance.

re: #37 Fenway_Nation

I work with a Saints fan, he'll be needing the waahmbulance after Monday night.

re: #38 soxfan4life

That's gonna be a good one- hopefully it won't come down to a 4th & 2 deep in their own end with just under 2 minutes remaining.

re: #28 Fenway_Nation

Not that chilly and...not that Northeast, soxfan.

/Altho' I'm sure Pyongyang is North and East of somewhere...

Well, it's 10 degrees (f) here at 8200 feet in the Rocky Mountains of Colorado. A bit nippy.

I had dental work done yesterday, and the pain killer always wires me, I can't sleep. Even though opiates are a depressant, it's not an unusual reaction for them to wire some people.

So, let's play.

re: #40 Walter L. Newton

Well, it's 10 degrees (f) here at 8200 feet in the Rocky Mountains of Colorado. A bit nippy.

I had dental work done yesterday, and the pain killer always wires me, I can't sleep. Even though opiates are a depressant, it's not an unusual reaction for them to wire some people.

So, let's play.

55 degrees here in Central Texas expecting mid 60's during the day. I'm the same way with pain killers, keep me awake throws my internal clock all off. Hope you feel better by Thursday so you can enjoy the bird.

re: #39 Fenway_Nation

NO has a banged up secondary I would throw to Moss and Welker and use the no huddle offense like Manning did to them.

New Icon test...

re: #43 Oh no...Sand People!

Gotta go!

re: #3 katemaclaren

Charles' camera must be a Nikon or Canon.

Judging by the aspect ratio, it looks like a 6cmx7cm, so I'm going with Fuji or Mamiya. But he could be cropping at the edges. Sorry to hear about your ex.

re: #40 Walter L. Newton

Did you bring enough painkillers for everybody, young man?
/

re: #45 Jeff In Ohio

I'm pretty sure Charles uses a digicam, and not a 6x7 film camera. He has highlighted before certain camera models, both digicams and DSLRs.

So yeah, Fenway, I think you had it - my old place was on Chestnut hill Rd. in Whately. West on Haydenville, north on Chestnut Hill, up a little hill, big farm house on top.

re: #47 freetoken

Gotcha. I'm still wallowing in cow hooves and nitrates.

re: #42 soxfan4life

NO has a banged up secondary I would throw to Moss and Welker and use the no huddle offense like Manning did to them.

I saw the Monday line up for next week and was happy. Then I took a guess that I'll have to work and became sad:(
/

re: #48 Jeff In Ohio

Heh...lady who used to babysit us lived on Masterson Rd.

The little league would play on the diamond next to the fire station on Christian Lane by the 5 & 10. I think they moved the field to somewhere off of River Rd. since I moved.

re: #50 Cannadian Club Akbar

There's always TiVo

re: #52 soxfan4life

There's always TiVo

Yea- but you gotta figure some doofus is gonna blurt out the score assuming CCA's already seen the game before the gan get to the TiVo.

re: #52 soxfan4life

There's always TiVo

Yes, got home last night and watched ESPN. Guess last nights game was pretty good.

re: #53 Fenway_Nation

Yea- but you gotta figure some doofus is gonna blurt out the score assuming CCA's already seen the game before the gan get to the TiVo.

I have 2 friends that are big drinkers and they shut off all communications with the outside world and TiVo'd the Superbowl because they started drinking on Superbowl morning. They pulled it off.

re: #55 Cannadian Club Akbar

A girlfriend and I did that for the superbowl a few years ago- she was working as a bartender @ the time, I went to pick her up from work and on the way back, she instructed her roomate to start recording the TiVo and pause it immediately and we basically began watching it on a 20-minute delay when we arrived.

It's just a freakin' football game.

*ducks*

The Bucs demoted their defensive coordinator. Geez, you give up 450 YPG and 32 PPG and this is how they reward you.
//

re: #51 Fenway_Nation

When did you move? Ever go back that way?

re: #57 MandyManners

It's just a freakin' football game.

That's not funny, EVAH!!!

re: #41 soxfan4life

55 degrees here in Central Texas expecting mid 60's during the day. I'm the same way with pain killers, keep me awake throws my internal clock all off. Hope you feel better by Thursday so you can enjoy the bird.

Sorry I was so long in getting back to you, was piddling around the kitchen, running the dishwasher, feeding the dogs.

I think I should be ok by then. I feel fine now, except I can't really chew, had two extractions, need to not chew for a few days. Next step is a partial to put in my mouth. After scrimping and saving for three years, I will finally have a full set of teeth (combination of real and plastic).

re: #46 Fenway_Nation

Did you bring enough painkillers for everybody, young man?
/

And what will you give me Miss Brooks?

Haven't had a chance to read this, but looks of interest:
Blackwater in Pakistan

re: #63 Walter L. Newton

I'd give you a shot of whiskey to go with that vicodin. Warning: not for everyone!

re: #62 Walter L. Newton

I remember when the Army dentist pulled my wisdom teeth, the pain wasn't bad and I could eat the next day. It was going without a cigarette that was the worst.

re: #60 Jeff In Ohio

I've been gone for some 15 years. I try and come back each year around Christmastime and...ideally...summertime during baseball season so I can catch a home game or 3 at Fenway.

Apple pie sucks, and your momma'...well,..I'll not say anything about those Army boots.

re: #68 MandyManners

Apple pie sucks, and your momma'...well,..I'll not say anything about those Army boots.

Cranky or feisty? You be the judge.
//

re: #66 soxfan4life

My dad, after having teeth pulled was driving on his way home. Looked over at the car next two him... sees two kids watching him... he was scrunched down in the driver's seat looking in his side-rear view mirror, trying to find his mouth with his cigarette.

Said the kids were fairly enthralled.

re: #67 Fenway_Nation

Don't hate me when I tell you I was a HUGE Thurman Munson era Yankees fan when I was growing up. Every Boston series, we'd be in the outfield bleachers yelling obscenities at Yaz.

re: #69 Cannadian Club Akbar

Cranky or feisty? You be the judge.
//

Weary of sports.

re: #64 Jeff In Ohio

Haven't had a chance to read this, but looks of interest:
Blackwater in Pakistan

Puh-leaze...

My shiftless, no-talent, lazy ass was on top of that before The Nation or The Washington Post was...

re: #65 Jeff In Ohio

When I use to drink (stopped cold 4 years ago) I could do opiates and whiskey with no problem. I have a really high tolerance for depressants.

re: #66 soxfan4life

I stopped smoking cold a year ago august. But three years ago I had all my uppers pulled in one visit (17 of them I think). I went right home and finished a pack or two. Didn't stop spitting blood for 24 hours or more. Yea, I know, stupid me.

re: #71 Jeff In Ohio

Don't hate me when I tell you I was a HUGE Thurman Munson era Yankees fan when I was growing up. Every Boston series, we'd be in the outfield bleachers yelling obscenities at Yaz.

Was he on first?

Fucking Commies in both the House and the Senate want a graduated income tax--in addition to the regular one--to pay for Afghanistan, with those earning about $200,000.00 paying five per cent as well as some murky additional surcharge.

re: #72 MandyManners

Weary of sports.

Do you know who else thinks like that... the North Koreans///

re: #77 soxfan4life

Do you know who else thinks like that... the North Koreans///

Extra heaping of kimchi for you, comrade?

Heaping. Helping. Whatever.

re: #76 MandyManners

Fucking Commies in both the House and the Senate want a graduated income tax--in addition to the regular one--to pay for Afghanistan, with those earning about $200,000.00 paying five per cent as well as some murky additional surcharge.

If the Dem majority gets reelected next year I will cry.

re: #75 Walter L. Newton

WHo THurman? He was the Yankees catcher and team captain. Chris Chambliss platooned at first with someone whose name wasn't Boog Powell.

re: #71 Jeff In Ohio

Fair 'nuff...the last game I ever went to at the old Yankee stadium was on the 4th of July last year. Couldn't yell obscenities at Johnny Damon because he was gone after running into the wall trying to catch a Youkilis fly-ball.

I left in one piece and the Red Sox won as a bonus...

re: #80 soxfan4life

If the Dem majority gets reelected next year I will cry.

I'll pitch a hissy.

re: #78 MandyManners

Extra heaping of kimchi for you, comrade?

Only if it is cucumber kimchi, don't like any of the others

re: #84 soxfan4life

Only if it is cucumber kimchi, don't like any of the others

Back to camp for you, comrade, for thinking you have an opinion. When Dear Leader wants your opinion, he will give you one.

re: #74 Walter L. Newton

Good for you, I quit smoking almost 6 years ago same way.

re: #84 soxfan4life

Why do you hate kimchi? Has the bright and glorious pathway to the future not been sufficently illumated to you by the torchbearers of the glorious democratic people's republic and the loght on the Juche ideal?

//

re: #81 Jeff In Ohio

WHo THurman? He was the Yankees catcher and team captain. Chris Chambliss platooned at first with someone whose name wasn't Boog Powell.

I gave you the straight line, ya missed it.

re: #82 Fenway_Nation

Do they still have pitched battles between Sox and Yank fans? Never reached the level of soccer hooliganism, but I always wondered at the ability of someone to be so loyal to a sports team they would heave another human over a concrete wall.

re: #84 soxfan4life

I tried naengmyon once. Not bad at all.

re: #87 Fenway_Nation

Why do you hate kimchi? Has the bright and glorious pathway to the future not been sufficently illumated to you by the torchbearers of the glorious democratic people's republic and the loght on the Juche ideal?

//

Too many hangovers while in Korea and going to the chowhall and smelling it at breakfast.

re: #88 Walter L. Newton

Damn...Hey Abbooot!

re: #89 Jeff In Ohio

Allegedly. There was tension, sure...but maybe everyone was on their best behavior for Independence day.

As it turned out, I kicked my own ass after stumbling down some steps after my 3rd Long Island iced tea later that night...

re: #76 MandyManners

Fucking Commies in both the House and the Senate want a graduated income tax--in addition to the regular one--to pay for Afghanistan, with those earning about $200,000.00 paying five per cent as well as some murky additional surcharge.

Progressive income taxes already exist in most capitalist jurisdictions around the world. IIRC the income tax originally started as a war tax (US civil war; WWI for Canada), which the pols simply kept on the books after WWII IIRC.

re: #87 Fenway_Nation

Why do you hate kimchi? Has the bright and glorious pathway to the future not been sufficently illumated to you by the torchbearers of the glorious democratic people's republic and the loght on the Juche ideal?

//

One can learn much about the Juche ideal from the cuddly forest creatures.

re: #95 laZardo

One can learn much about the Juche ideal from the cuddly forest creatures.

Fix'd link due to imperialist sabotage.

re: #85 MandyManners

Back to camp for you, comrade, for thinking you have an opinion. When Dear Leader wants your opinion, he will give you one.

Speaking of the state trashing your opinion and forcing one down your throat, NJDhockeyfan found a gem yesterday.

Do you believe in the American dream -- the idea that in this country, hardworking people of every race, color and creed can get ahead on their own merits? If so, that belief may soon bar you from getting a license to teach in Minnesota public schools -- at least if you plan to get your teaching degree at the University of Minnesota's Twin Cities campus.

In a report compiled last summer, the Race, Culture, Class and Gender Task Group at the U's College of Education and Human Development recommended that aspiring teachers there must repudiate the notion of "the American Dream" in order to obtain the recommendation for licensure required by the Minnesota Board of Teaching. Instead, teacher candidates must embrace -- and be prepared to teach our state's kids -- the task force's own vision of America as an oppressive hellhole: racist, sexist and homophobic.

SNIP

The report advocates making race, class and gender politics the "overarching framework" for all teaching courses at the U. It calls for evaluating future teachers in both coursework and practice teaching based on their willingness to fall into ideological lockstep.

The first step toward "cultural competence," says the task group, is for future teachers to recognize -- and confess -- their own bigotry. Anyone familiar with the reeducation camps of China's Cultural Revolution will recognize the modus operandi.

The task group recommends, for example, that prospective teachers be required to prepare an "autoethnography" report. They must describe their own prejudices and stereotypes, question their "cultural" motives for wishing to become teachers, and take a "cultural intelligence" assessment designed to ferret out their latent racism, classism and other "isms." They "earn points" for "demonstrating the ability to be self-critical."

The task group opens its report with a model for officially approved confessional statements: "As an Anglo teacher, I struggle to quiet voices from my own farm family, echoing as always from some unstated standard. ... How can we untangle our own deeply entrenched assumptions?"

The goal of these exercises, in the task group's words, is to ensure that "future teachers will be able to discuss their own histories and current thinking drawing on notions of white privilege, hegemonic masculinity, heteronormativity, and internalized oppression."

Future teachers must also recognize and denounce the fundamental injustices at the heart of American society, says the task group. From a historical perspective, they must "understand that ... many groups are typically not included" within America's "celebrated cultural identity," and that "such exclusion is frequently a result of dissimilarities in power and influence." In particular, aspiring teachers must be able "to explain how institutional racism works in schools."

SNIP

re: #94 Spare O'Lake

Progressive income taxes already exist in most capitalist jurisdictions around the world. IIRC the income tax originally started as a war tax (US civil war; WWI for Canada), which the pols simply kept on the books after WWII IIRC.

This would be in addition to the one we already have!

When will the pork violence stop?
[Link: www.cbsatlanta.com...]

re: #97 MandyManners

They elected a pro wrestler and SNL comedian to government. Honestly (and tragically), this doesn't come as a surprise.

re: #97 MandyManners

SNIP

Last paragraphs:

What if some aspiring teachers resist this effort at thought control and object to parroting back an ideological line as a condition of future employment? The task group has Orwellian plans for such rebels: The U, it says, must "develop clear steps and procedures for working with non-performing students, including a remediation plan."

And what if students' ideological purity is tainted once they begin to do practice teaching in the public schools? The task group frames the danger this way: "How can we be sure that teaching supervisors are themselves developed and equipped in cultural competence outcomes in order to supervise beginning teachers around issues of race, class, culture, and gender?"

Its answer? "Requir[e] training/workshop for all supervisors. Perhaps a training session disguised as a thank you/recognition ceremony/reception at the beginning of the year?"

Last August my wife bought a 42" plasma TV for the bedroom since she was looking at some bed rest due to two knee operations. She wanted to enjoy the NFL in some style and comfort.

All went well until Sunday, when the TV suddenly didn't recognize that it was hooked up to the Dish network anymore. I unplugged it for a half-hour and plugged it in again but no joy. I called tech support and they ran through some items and concluded that the coax input had gone bad. Out of warranty, so it wasn't going to be repaired free, and they recommended that we take it to a local shop for repair.

I was a bit miffed, and hooked the old (25 year old) RCA unit and put the plasma screen in the computer room until we could locate a repair shop. While waiting, I decided to pull the back off the unit and see if I could remove the coax input and replace it myself. The unit was soldered to the motherboard (maybe not, but that was what I'd have said had it been a computer) and I didn't feel competent to take it apart myself. I put the back of the unit back on and on a whim hooked it to the coax input in the computer room and, Shazam, it worked.

Now, for years I've become used to the idea that computers can be repaired by removing the offending part, reinstalling the part and in a distressing number of cases that will fix the problem. I was a bit surprised to find that you can fix flat-screen TVs that way, too.

re: #97 MandyManners

Cripes...no wonder freaks like Franken get elected there...

Is it just me, or do they sound like they're trying to lay the groundwork for a 'if you don't re-elect Barack 0bama, you are racist' platform in 2012?

Obama's first State Dinner tonight.

Entertainment is Jennifer Hudson.

LUCKY!

She's great.

re: #104 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Obama's first State Dinner tonight.

Entertainment is Jennifer Hudson.

LUCKY!

She's great.

And another prime time speech next week. Warm up those fingers!!

re: #100 laZardo

They elected a pro wrestler and SNL comedian to government. Honestly (and tragically), this doesn't come as a surprise.

Who are these people? Elected officials or, ivy-tower Communists?

The task group is part of the Teacher Education Redesign Initiative, a multiyear project to change the way future teachers are trained at the U's flagship campus. The initiative is premised, in part, on the conviction that Minnesota teachers' lack of "cultural competence" contributes to the poor academic performance of the state's minority students. Last spring, it charged the task group with coming up with recommendations to change this. In January, planners will review the recommendations and decide how to proceed.

re: #105 Cannadian Club Akbar

And another prime time speech next week. Warm up those fingers!!

Oh good...the President was positively underexposed in terms of media coverage. I'm so glad that this is being rectified.

/

re: #106 MandyManners

Who are these people? Elected officials or, ivy-tower Communists?

The people who can somehow convince enough voters to elect an SNL comedian or WWE wrestler to government.

re: #106 MandyManners

lack of "cultural competence"

Ebonics revisited?

re: #108 laZardo

The people who can somehow convince enough voters to elect an SNL comedian or WWE wrestler to government.

No, that's not the answer.

re: #109 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ebonics revisited?

Hasn't that been laughed out of the arena?

re: #111 MandyManners

Well? If I read that correctly, they are thinking of laughing back in.

re: #111 MandyManners

Hasn't that been laughed out of the arena?

By RACSITS!

re: #112 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Well? If I read that correctly, they are thinking of laughing back in.

This goes beyond ebonics. This strikes at the heart of the right to form and possess your own opinion. Sure, you can still have it but you must regugitate what your superiors want, you must lie.

Wow. But I still hate the ACLU.
[Link: www.970wfla.com...]

This weekend, when I talked to my cousin who lives near Memphis, she mentioned that Bill and Melinda Gates recently gave $90,000,000.00 to the Memphis schools to pay for better teacher education. I wonder if that the Minnesota plan will be considered.

re: #106 MandyManners

Who are these people? Elected officials or, ivy-tower Communists?

The task group is part of the Teacher Education Redesign Initiative, a multiyear project to change the way future teachers are trained at the U's flagship campus. The initiative is premised, in part, on the conviction that Minnesota teachers' lack of "cultural competence" contributes to the poor academic performance of the state's minority students. Last spring, it charged the task group with coming up with recommendations to change this. In January, planners will review the recommendations and decide how to proceed.

Why are they wasting their time trying to re-educate the racist teachers...they should just get rid of them all and hire minority teachers to replace them. Then the minority students will feel more comfy.

re: #116 MandyManners

This weekend, when I talked to my cousin who lives near Memphis, she mentioned that Bill and Melinda Gates recently gave $90,000,000.00 to the Memphis schools to pay for better teacher education. I wonder if that the Minnesota plan will be considered.

They also gave 100 million to Hillsboro County skools in Tampa.

Big plans for Thanksgiving?

We had none. Just the wife, myself, and the daughter. Quiet dinner and then mouldering on the couch.

Then I invited my sister, her husband, and her son. Accepted. My other two brothers heard and decided they would come with another nephew. Now nine for dinner. A neighbor mentioned that they had nowhere to go, so the wife invited him, his wife, and her father. Up to twelve. The daughter took pity on a co-worker who was far from home and faced with the prospect of the first holiday without her extended family, so she invited this lady, her husband and their two-year-old child. Fifteen attendees now.

One thing lead to another and now we have twenty-two people who have accepted invitations to Thanksgiving dinner.

Next year, we're having Thanksgiving at an undisclosed location, guarded by Blackwater operatives.

Here's the Teacher Education Redesign Initiative's full report.

[Link: 74.125.95.132...]

re: #119 razorbacker

Sounds like you will have a lot of fun... as long as you can do one of these things without the stress.

re: #119 razorbacker

Years ago, I was stuck in Orlando with a group of people with no where to go. Menu? Dogs and burgers and wings and stone crab claws. And beer and booze. It was awesome.

Morning folks!

re: #122 Cannadian Club Akbar

I also made apple-stuffed mangos with a Crown Royal glaze.

re: #121 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

On the upside, there won't be any of that "what do we do with all this left-over turkey?".

It'll be fun. The daughter loves to cook but lives alone and doesn't get many chances. She thrives on things like this. I'll handle the cleanup and incidentals. The wife will do the desserts.

Who doesn't like a crowded dinner table with convivial people? It'll give us a chance to put both extenders into the dinner table and break out the fancy dishes.

re: #125 razorbacker

That's the spirit!

re: #124 Cannadian Club Akbar

Sounds tasty. :9

Brb shower. >_>

For anyone following the Cory Maye case, here's a great rundown:

[Link: reason.com...]

and here's Part 1 of the Reason video (hosted by Drew Carey)

The whole video is 25 mins long, and very well done btw:
[Link: reason.com...]

re: #124 Cannadian Club Akbar

Oddly enough, I have awakened with a Crown Royal glaze several times back in the day.

I'd best bestir myself and get something useful done today.

Raining, so it'll be indoors somewhere.

Y'all have the best day that your various circumstances will allow.

re: #119 razorbacker

We have 16 coming over. Today is pie crust making day. Pie rocks.

re: #132 Jeff In Ohio

We have 16 coming over. Today is pie crust making day. Pie rocks.

Pie is liquid cake. Ask FBV.

Well, I just got hit with some Federal Mandate stuff... turns out they did do some stuff with credit card companies. We offer financing, and used to offer no payments/no interest for a year... the Gubment has put the KABOSH! on that little customer benefit.

No interest can still be offered, but minimum payments have to occur.

Notice... I do not think this is a bad thing. People often get killed with this benefit.

re: #133 Cannadian Club Akbar

Pie is liquid cake. Ask FBV.

Pie is liquid cake.

re: #134 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Well, I just got hit with some Federal Mandate stuff... turns out they did do some stuff with credit card companies. We offer financing, and used to offer no payments/no interest for a year... the Gubment has put the KABOSH! on that little customer benefit.

No interest can still be offered, but minimum payments have to occur.

Notice... I do not think this is a bad thing. People often get killed with this benefit.

The feds are telling a private business that it must change its practice? What's the reaoning?

re: #135 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Well then, I'll post pictures of my 10" pies - pecan, derby, pumpkin and chocolate custard with milk chocolate and peanut butter crust all deck out in their fiestaware pie dishes and you may dream of that pie slinking down your throat being chased by a cup of espresso or Sumatra.

Not on the menu, the biggest, boldest lemon meringue, key lime and the pie that confounds my southern cousins with it's delectability, Yankee Pecan.

Shit I'm hungry.

re: #136 MandyManners

Consumer protection. Which I don't necessarily disagree with in this situation. Customers will purchase something with delayed pain, only to have the pain delivered a year later.

For example... 20,000 remodel job... no payments for a year/no interest.

The interest, however accrues... bill isn't paid off? 3000.00 in interest immediately is added to the account.

My customers who can afford to pay the job off within a year without interest can afford to make minimum monthly payments and then send the balance before the year is up, avoiding those interest fees.

My customers who can not afford to pay the job off within a year receives no real benefit from this and gets killed with interest.

Seriously. I don't have a problem with it.

Thousands Gather For Stuffing Of Giant Rockefeller Center Turkey

re: #137 Jeff In Ohio

Well then, I'll post pictures of my 10" pies - pecan, derby, pumpkin and chocolate custard with milk chocolate and peanut butter crust all deck out in their fiestaware pie dishes and you may dream of that pie slinking down your throat being chased by a cup of espresso or Sumatra.

Not on the menu, the biggest, boldest lemon meringue, key lime and the pie that confounds my southern cousins with it's delectability, Yankee Pecan.

Shit I'm hungry.

Our neighbor across the street used to make Lemon Meringue; I swear that pie could raise the dead if you got it to them quickly enough.

re: #139 Mad Al-Jaffee

Thousands Gather For Stuffing Of Giant Rockefeller Center Turkey

They're mistaken. I'm nowhere near Rockefeller Center!

Nation's Music Snobs Protest Predictable Use Of Metallica, Pantera To Torture Prisoners

re: #142 Mad Al-Jaffee

Nation's Music Snobs Protest Predictable Use Of Metallica, Pantera To Torture Prisoners

I heard they did use Eminem.

re: #140 SteveC

Our neighbor across the street used to make Lemon Meringue; I swear that pie could raise the dead if you got it to them quickly enough.

When my brother lived in Denmark, he used to make pecan pie for his wife and her family. My grandmother would send him the pecans (from trees in her yard, Karo syrup and her recipe.)

re: #138 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Consumer protection. Which I don't necessarily disagree with in this situation. Customers will purchase something with delayed pain, only to have the pain delivered a year later.

For example... 20,000 remodel job... no payments for a year/no interest.

The interest, however accrues... bill isn't paid off? 3000.00 in interest immediately is added to the account.

My customers who can afford to pay the job off within a year without interest can afford to make minimum monthly payments and then send the balance before the year is up, avoiding those interest fees.

My customers who can not afford to pay the job off within a year receives no real benefit from this and gets killed with interest.

Seriously. I don't have a problem with it.

Part of this smacks of Nanny Statism. Don't those people know that the interest will still accrue over the year?

re: #142 Mad Al-Jaffee

Nation's Music Snobs Protest Predictable Use Of Metallica, Pantera To Torture Prisoners

"We may need to use the Yanni recordings."

"They will impeach you, Mr. President. Hell, they may skip impeachment and just toss a rope over the nearest tree."

re: #145 MandyManners

Part of this smacks of Nanny Statism. Don't those people know that the interest will still accrue over the year?

I got a Home Depot CC, no interest/ payment for 6 months. Spent $1700 and paid it off after 4 months. They canceled my card.

re: #145 MandyManners

Part of this smacks of Nanny Statism. Don't those people know that the interest will still accrue over the year?

Isn't this is anti-free enterprise? Isn't this the same as telling a business to turn down a job?

re: #147 Cannadian Club Akbar

I got a Home Depot CC, no interest/ payment for 6 months. Spent $1700 and paid it off after 4 months. They canceled my card.

That's the business' choice. Will this new law eliminate that option completely?

re: #147 Cannadian Club Akbar

I got a Home Depot CC, no interest/ payment for 6 months. Spent $1700 and paid it off after 4 months. They canceled my card.

DAMN YOU, playing by the rules! :)

re: #149 MandyManners

That's the business' choice. Will this new law eliminate that option completely?

Not sure. But I already got what I needed.
/half

re: #147 Cannadian Club Akbar

I got a Home Depot CC, no interest/ payment for 6 months. Spent $1700 and paid it off after 4 months. They canceled my card.

If it was a Mastercard sponsored Home Depot card, I don't think they cancelled you because of paying it off. My girlfriend spends an average of 10 thousand a year at Home Depot (she owns rental properties) and Mastercard stopped doing business with Home Depot. Her card was cancelled too. I suspect that was the reason

re: #152 Walter L. Newton

It was issued by Citibank. Doesn't say Visa or MC, but you're probably right.

re: #145 MandyManners

I explain it very carefully to the customers who I do not think understand the details. Most salespeople that I know, do not.

"Free money for a year!" is how it is explained.

Some consumers need protected.

Side note... the people who I have to spend a whole lot of time explaining the way this works to? Have bad credit and get declined anyway.

Mornin' Early Lizards!

I'm listening to my brand new Susan Boyle CD. Yes, I pre-ordered it and I don't regret it.

How are you-all?

re: #154 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I explain it very carefully to the customers who I do not think understand the details. Most salespeople that I know, do not.

"Free money for a year!" is how it is explained.

Some consumers need protected.

Side note... the people who I have to spend a whole lot of time explaining the way this works to? Have bad credit and get declined anyway.

No, they don't. They are in possession of their faculties. Why should the government take away their right to make a bad decision?

re: #142 Mad Al-Jaffee

what? No Bay City Rollers?

re: #156 MandyManners

No, they don't. They are in possession of their faculties. Why should the government take away their right to make a bad decision?

Because the gubment is smarter than everyone else and we need to be protected from ourselves. Just ask them.
///

re: #149 MandyManners

That's the business' choice. Will this new law eliminate that option completely?

No. The free interest is still available.

Used to work like this...

Buy something for 10,000.00 on December 1, make no payments until the end of November of the next year, then send a check for 10,000.00.

Dandy. No interest accrued, account is paid off.

Now, buy something for 10K on December 1. Make a minimum monthly payment each month (100.00 for this example), pay 8,900.00 at the end of November next year? Same result.

KSM show trial...

That's where we find our answer. The KSM show trial is not aimed at terrorists, or at an international audience. It's aimed, in the classic sense, at domestic enemies. Holder has been transparently eager to prosecute Bush officials involved in "torture" but was evidently told to low-key the effort -- little has been heard of it since the first announcement last Spring. But here he has a workable substitute.

JR Dunn at Am Thinker...the explanation you won't get from Holder

Fox has the Minnesotan teachers' re-education story on now.

Something tells me that CNN won't carry this.

re: #158 Cannadian Club Akbar

Because the gubment is smarter than everyone else and we need to be protected from ourselves. Just ask them.
///

Is that you, SanFranNan?

re: #159 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

No. The free interest is still available.

Used to work like this...

Buy something for 10,000.00 on December 1, make no payments until the end of November of the next year, then send a check for 10,000.00.

Dandy. No interest accrued, account is paid off.

Now, buy something for 10K on December 1. Make a minimum monthly payment each month (100.00 for this example), pay 8,900.00 at the end of November next year? Same result.

What has changed?

I do know some of the cc companies are cutting their noses to spite their faces. Miss a payment by a day or two and the increase the interest rate to way beyond reasonable. I had this happen. Promptly paid the balance and cut it up. Most people can't do that and their balance increases to the point of bankrkuptcy.

Hubby says it works to their benefit because of gubernet bailouts for the banks. I'd think they would want to keep customers, but I guess that isn't necessary to turn a profit these days.

I don't understand these things, I guess.

re: #163 MandyManners

Customer's have to make payments during the year, that is all that has changed.

re: #160 albusteve

KSM show trial...

That's where we find our answer. The KSM show trial is not aimed at terrorists, or at an international audience. It's aimed, in the classic sense, at domestic enemies. Holder has been transparently eager to prosecute Bush officials involved in "torture" but was evidently told to low-key the effort -- little has been heard of it since the first announcement last Spring. But here he has a workable substitute.

JR Dunn at Am Thinker...the explanation you won't get from Holder

So, this is the back-door option.

re: #165 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Customer's have to make payments during the year, that is all that has changed.

So, the government is forcing people to pay to a private business, is inserting itself into a contract.

I got a letter a couple of weeks ago from my credit card company saying that they are raising their interest rates. If I wanted to opt out of this change, they would cancel my card at the end of the year. Since I always pay my balance in full, this won't effect me. But it took a phone call to them to make sure it wouldn't.

My credit hasn't changed, but I'm not getting those Capital One offers anymore. No, please give us your balance transfers for .05 interest for a year schemes.

re: #157 Jeff In Ohio

what? No Bay City Rollers?

S-A-T-UAR-DAY...NIGHT!

re: #170 SteveC

S-A-T-UAR-DAY...NIGHT!

is right for fighting?

bbiab

re: #171 ggt

is right for fighting?

Could you imagine Elton John in an actual street fight? I don't think it would last very long.

Kaam says: Port Dune State Beach
[Link: tinyurl.com...]

re: #171 ggt

No doing your hair.

re: #120 MandyManners

Here's the Teacher Education Redesign Initiative's full report.

[Link: 74.125.95.132...]

Every time I read something like this I end up wanting to stick a pencil in my eye.

re: #167 MandyManners

Nothing new.

Susan Boyle might prove to single handedly bring back the popularity of music to which one can recognize the lyrics --without having to look them up.

She doesn't have Elaine Page's range, but then, Elaine doesn't have the YouTube views.

re: #173 Mad Al-Jaffee

Could you imagine Elton John in an actual street fight? I don't think it would last very long.

teehee

I am watching, "Run, Fatboy, Run". Rockin' good movie.

Simon Pegg's innit? I'monna watch it.

re: #157 Jeff In Ohio

what? No Bay City Rollers?

re: #170 SteveC

S-A-T-UAR-DAY...NIGHT!

*whack*

Anti-dote.

The climate change deniers are really trying to use the hacked emails to nail the scientists. Too bad that good science will always hold up to personal attacks...

Professor Phil Jones, the head of the Climate Research Unit, and professor Michael E. Mann at Pennsylvania State University, who has been an important scientist in the climate debate, have come under particular scrutiny. Among his e-mails, Mr. Jones talked to Mr. Mann about the "trick of adding in the real temps to each series ... to hide the decline [in temperature]."

This too will pass...

[Link: www.washingtontimes.com...]

re: #180 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Did you ever watch the tv show Spaced?

re: #116 MandyManners

This weekend, when I talked to my cousin who lives near Memphis, she mentioned that Bill and Melinda Gates recently gave $90,000,000.00 to the Memphis schools to pay for better teacher education. I wonder if that the Minnesota plan will be considered.

I have the Gates Foundation as a friend on facebook. They do some really good work. I want to be a philanthropist when I grow up.

Good morning, Lizards!

It's a beauty of a day out there.

re: #173 Mad Al-Jaffee

Could you imagine Elton John in an actual street fight? I don't think it would last very long.

"How am I doing, Bernie?"

"I think you should stop hitting his fist with your face, Elton."

re: #183 Mad Al-Jaffee

Never heard of it.

re: #170 SteveC

S-A-T-UAR-DAY...NIGHT!

re: #181 MandyManners

*whack*

Admit it - you just can't handle the awesomeness of the Bay City Rollers! :)

re: #187 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You need to see this show. Go put it on your Netflix queue. Go ahead and do it now, I'll wait.

And read this review: [Link: www.popmatters.com...]

re: #176 RogueOne

Every time I read something like this I end up wanting to stick a pencil in my eye.

I end up wanting to run through the streets screaming,

GREAT GALLOPING GRAMSCIAN WHORES OF THE REVOLUTION!

The gradualism of cultural Marxism is insidious.

gotta go, Lizards!

Have a great day.

re: #184 gregb

I have the Gates Foundation as a friend on facebook. They do some really good work. I want to be a philanthropist when I grow up.

It's a hard job but somebody's gotta' do it.

re: #188 SteveC

Admit it - you just can't handle the awesomeness of the Bay City Rollers! :)

GAH! That just might put me off plaid.

In a recent press release, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., argues that constitutional objections to the individual mandate are "nonsensical," because "the power of Congress to regulate health care is essentially unlimited."

[Link: www.washingtonexaminer.com...]

Commerce Clause again

Real GDP up

Real gross domestic product -- the output of goods and services produced by labor and property located in the United States -- increased at an annual rate of 2.8 percent in the third quarter of 2009, (that is, from the second quarter to the third quarter), according to the "second" estimate released by the Bureau of Economic Analysis. In the second quarter, real GDP decreased 0.7 percent.

re: #189 Mad Al-Jaffee

It's on Hulu! Thanks. I'll watch it!

Written by Michael Ian Black?
Directed by David Schwimmer...

Huh. Did not see that coming.

Dems Already Done In By Buyers' Remorse?

[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

re: #189 Mad Al-Jaffee

You need to see this show. Go put it on your Netflix queue. Go ahead and do it now, I'll wait.

And read this review: [Link: www.popmatters.com...]

Looks interesting. I like the characters

re: #182 Walter L. Newton

The climate change deniers are really trying to use the hacked emails to nail the scientists. Too bad that good science will always hold up to personal attacks...

This too will pass...

[Link: www.washingtontimes.com...]

There is a lot of damning evidence about these researchers concealing information that counters their bias. In another exchange, Mr. Jones told Mr. Mann: "If they ever hear there is a Freedom of Information Act now in the UK, I think I'll delete the file rather than send to anyone" and, "We also have a data protection act, which I will hide behind."

here's the rub...it's not so much the science as it is the holier than thou attitude...tends to turn one sour on the entire thing

re: #198 albusteve

What do you call it if you didn't buy it and are remorseful?

re: #198 albusteve

Dems Already Done In By Buyers' Remorse?

[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

Hopefully someone saved the receipt and they can return it!

for the celebrity obsessed...this is huge

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

re: #201 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
...Snarky..!!?

re: #203 albusteve

for the celebrity obsessed...this is huge

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

I see what you did there...huge//

re: #203 albusteve

for the celebrity obsessed...this is huge

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

The pop princess showed off a super, super slim body in a form-fitting long black dress that she could barely move in at the American Music Awards on Sunday, recruiting an entourage of six to help hold her trail and scurry around the show.

What a Spayshul Fucking Snowflake!

Morning all. Just read that the SEIU union thug and a few others in Allentown, Pa. have resigned.

Work beckons...

ahoy hoy/

how do people find themselves this morning?

re: #207 Bubblehead II

Morning all. Just read that the SEIU union thug and a few others in Allentown, Pa. have resigned.

It's Bush's fault.

re: #209 wozzablog

ahoy hoy/

how do people find themselves this morning?

Still free Americans... for now.

re: #211 Walter L. Newton

;-)

re: #209 wozzablog

ahoy hoy/

how do people find themselves this morning?

Close one eye...use both hands...

re: #209 wozzablog

ahoy hoy/

how do people find themselves this morning?

Well, for my part, I'm all coffee'd up.

re: #212 wozzablog

;-)

Morning :)

re: #209 wozzablog

ahoy hoy/

how do people find themselves this morning?

With a mirror.

re: #209 wozzablog

Alive and well. Just getting my ine fix before going off to work.

re: #210 Walter L. Newton

Junior or Senior?

BB later this morning... I have some chores to do downhill... it's a cheerful 13 degrees (f) outside right now... I could wait till it warms up a bit... but that would be around April.

re: #218 Bubblehead II

Junior or Senior?

What ever works... he did it :)

A private investigator says he found tens of thousands of sensitive documents dumped outside a California ACORN office just days after the state attorney general announced an inquiry into the community organizing group.

Fox totally fakes another ACORN story...relentless partisan mongers

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

re: #207 Bubblehead II

Morning all. Just read that the SEIU union thug and a few others in Allentown, Pa. have resigned.

You are being kind calling him a "thug".

re: #209 wozzablog

ahoy hoy/

how do people find themselves this morning?

GPS.

re: #214 Semper Fi

Phone rang at 2am...(.I'm on call)..nothing major!
3 am furnace started making noises..(Not good)!
16dig outside ,I've got to do something!
Went outside to the garage,down stairs to the furnace...
...A nail had fallen from whoknows where and landed right in the
igniter switch and shorted it to ground!???
...Didn't get back to sleep...but here I am!!
Where's the coffee?

re: #221 albusteve

A private investigator says he found tens of thousands of sensitive documents dumped outside a California ACORN office just days after the state attorney general announced an inquiry into the community organizing group.

Fox totally fakes another ACORN story...relentless partisan mongers

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

How long before someone claims Roach got the documents illegally?

re: #220 Walter L. Newton

What ever works... he did it :)

The idiots on the DU forums blame both Bushes and Reagan for pretty much any problem that exists.

re: #207 Bubblehead II

Morning all. Just read that the SEIU union thug and a few others in Allentown, Pa. have resigned.

Uh oh he might file a grievance. Oh my lord what a thug! You know how brutish it is to make a complaint. What a bastard!

re: #221 albusteve

A private investigator says he found tens of thousands of sensitive documents dumped outside a California ACORN office just days after the state attorney general announced an inquiry into the community organizing group.

Fox totally fakes another ACORN story...relentless partisan mongers

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

No kidding... I posted that same piece of fraudulent reporting yesterday... I would have though that Fox would have yanked it by now.

Have dinger, will travel.

re: #219 Walter L. Newton

BB later this morning... I have some chores to do downhill... it's a cheerful 13 degrees (f) outside right now... I could wait till it warms up a bit... but that would be around April.

Walter, don't forget this is the day before the day before Thanksgiving. All market shopping should be completed today with exception of special order items from those 'special' places. You know, like, where you have already pre-ordered the Shoo-Fly Pie and Apple Pan Dowdy. Those can be picked up Wednesday.

re: #229 MandyManners

Have dinger, will travel.

in bed

re: #222 MandyManners

BTW The hug I promised from the other night.

{Mandy}

re: #200 albusteve

Holier than thou from a scientist? Who ever heard of that?
///

"Sneer" review.

re: #228 Walter L. Newton

No kidding... I posted that same piece of fraudulent reporting yesterday... I would have though that Fox would have yanked it by now.

just for spite, it needs to be posted everyday

re: #227 Locker

Uh oh he might file a grievance. Oh my lord what a thug! You know how brutish it is to make a complaint. What a bastard!

A grievance isn't just a piece of paper. It's a legal action.

Do you really think a grievance against the Boy Scouts for completing a volunteer service project is in order here?

re: #232 Bubblehead II

BTW The hug I promised from the other night.

{Mandy}

Why, thank you!

(((Bubblehead)))

Grow up, Locker.

re: #236 MandyManners

Hey!!
Get a room!!

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area.

Two terror related stories this morning:

1) 9/11 terrorists want to represent themselves at trial. President Obama, you own this circus. This was your decision, and you're going to have to live with the repercussions of putting it into civilian courts and not the tribunals that you have no problem using for other terrorists in detention.

2) Maj. Hasan's lawyer is contemplating an insanity defense. It's what lawyers are supposed to do, but don't expect it to work.

re: #198 albusteve

Halp!
Can somebody translate "Panglossian" in the context of optimists?

re: #229 MandyManners

Hey what do you know we all have a dinger and can travel. It certainly is fun to follow someone around and down ding there comments. Thanks for the tip Mandy.

re: #224 reloadingisnotahobby

Phone rang at 2am...(.I'm on call)..nothing major!
3 am furnace started making noises..(Not good)!
16dig outside ,I've got to do something!
Went outside to the garage,down stairs to the furnace...
...A nail had fallen from whoknows where and landed right in the
igniter switch and shorted it to ground!???
...Didn't get back to sleep...but here I am!!
Where's the coffee?

I finished it but, sorry to hear you are faced with that unusual turn of events. If I could get you a cup I'd do it.

re: #235 reine.de.tout

A grievance isn't just a piece of paper. It's a legal action.

Do you really think a grievance against the Boy Scouts for completing a volunteer service project is in order here?

Look at Locker's profile.

re: #227 Locker

Uh oh he might file a grievance. Oh my lord what a thug! You know how brutish it is to make a complaint. What a bastard!

you nailed it...thanks

re: #241 Locker

I corrected your dingdowns of Mandy. Grow up.

re: #241 Locker

Hey what do you know we all have a dinger and can travel. It certainly is fun to follow someone around and down ding there comments. Thanks for the tip Mandy.

Oh, go piss up a rope.

re: #240 Rightwingconspirator

Halp!
Can somebody translate "Panglossian" in the context of optimists?

Cato could probably make up something nice

Carry a bb gun in your front yard in irving, tx? That's a shootin':

[Link: www.star-telegram.com...]

Garcia said Rodriguez "had been staying with his sister, and they were asleep when they heard three bangs on the house. It sounded like someone was trying to get in."

Rodriguez grabbed a flashlight and the BB gun and went outside to investigate, the attorney said.

"According to his sister, the officer came up behind him and opened fire," Garcia said

re: #246 MandyManners

Oh, go piss up a rope.

I believe this is the earliest I've said that.

re: #242 Semper Fi

I'm getting some now...
They say it works faster if ya just throw it your face!!
:-]

re: #235 reine.de.tout

A grievance isn't just a piece of paper. It's a legal action.

Do you really think a grievance against the Boy Scouts for completing a volunteer service project is in order here?

You file a grievance with an employer.

re: #243 MandyManners

Look at Locker's profile.

mmmkay.

Still - the city got a nice path at no cost to the taxpayers.
Why is that a bad thing, Locker?
Why is it a bad thing that a boy scout spent 200 volunteer hours of his own time to clear that path for the citizens of the town?
Why is volunteerism a bad thing?
Why would anyone want to create a financially sapping grievance process for this volunteer to have to respond to?

re: #245 Sharmuta

Gee thanks Sharmuta so once again it's ok for someone to do something to me but if I do it back I'm Mister Terrible. I remain unaffected.

re: #246 MandyManners

Oh, go piss up a rope.

Aww you sure like starting shit and making smart ass comments but you don't seem like you can take it very well. Maybe next time you'll stay out of the ring.

re: #249 MandyManners

I believe this is the earliest I've said that.

But so well deserved.

re: #251 Locker

You file a grievance with an employer.

Most employer's have a grievance process, yes.
And . . . so . . . what?

re: #252 reine.de.tout

Because they didn't want to give him any of those, those stingy little runts.

/ q:

re: #252 reine.de.tout

mmmkay.

Still - the city got a nice path at no cost to the taxpayers.
Why is that a bad thing, Locker?
Why is it a bad thing that a boy scout spent 200 volunteer hours of his own time to clear that path for the citizens of the town?
Why is volunteerism a bad thing?
Why would anyone want to create a financially sapping grievance process for this volunteer to have to respond to?

What if the boy scouts decided to volunteer to do your job? And your boss said "hey that's a great idea, we don't need you any more" and fired you. Would you complain or would you just bless those cheeky boy scouts and your great employer for supporting volunteer work?