I'm starting to believe the 2012 Apocalypse nuts!

*checks calendar*

Nope, it's not April first.

Uh oh.

The Democrats dream opponents.

Never going to happen.

I think Palin's remarks were a polite response to an idiotic idea. Not even she is crazy enough to even remotely consider the idea.

If he does run, I'm investing in Vick's Vaporub.

I think they'll be representing the US version of the "very silly" party that featured in Monty Python's election special.

re: #4 researchok

Never going to happen.

I think Palin's remarks were a polite response to an idiotic idea. Not even she is crazy enough to even remotely consider the idea.

I don't think she has the political savvy to figure out if it's a good or a bad idea.

Talk about a dream team!

re: #4 researchok

I think you're right, that "we'll see" sounds like the softpedal parental response to the kid request that won't be granted.

Oh hell no!

The Hockey Mom and the Rodeo Clown
The Weather Girl and the Morning Zoo DJ
Alaska and I'll Tell Ya

re: #7 Obdicut

The campaign money people do.

haha, I cant believe Sarah said she'd consider this and that it sounded like a good idea.

oh, wait. she didn't. she said its a joke.

is there a way to set up my browser so that it just wont show me any of the posts on LGF with 'Sarah Palin' in the tag?

“He calls it like he sees it, and he's very, very, very effective,” Palin added.

At steadily increasing his income.

..to wit (see 3:26)

So Fox & Friends is floating the idea of a Beck candidacy...? I guess he can join Dobbs on the flirting-with-a-presidential-bid WTF!? list.

re: #14 jaunte

“He calls it like he sees it, and he's very, very, very effective,” Palin added.

At steadily increasing his income.

Preparation H is effective, too. It and Beck are targeted to the same demographic.

re: #13 rollwave87

is there a way to set up my browser so that it just wont show me any of the posts on LGF with 'Sarah Palin' in the tag?

You see that little "x" in the upper right hand corner...?

re: #4 researchok

Never going to happen.

I think Palin's remarks were a polite response to an idiotic idea. Not even she is crazy enough to even remotely consider the idea.

I think you're right. Man, I hope you're right. I find Palin fun, if horrifying, but the idea of Glenn Beck trying to get through an actual debate is too scary for words.

After being asked by Gretchen Carlson if the formation of a "commonsense conservative party" could be a possibility: "If the Republican party doesn't get its act together, doesn't do some internal housecleaning, and makes sure that we are applying the principles that ARE the Republican party"

re: #13 rollwave87

haha, I cant believe Sarah said she'd consider this and that it sounded like a good idea.

oh, wait. she didn't. she said its a joke.

is there a way to set up my browser so that it just wont show me any of the posts on LGF with 'Sarah Palin' in the tag?

No one is making you read the blog. Just skip over the Palin posts if they frustrate you. That's what I do any time people are ragging on Nancy Pelosi.

re: #13 rollwave87

haha, I cant believe Sarah said she'd consider this and that it sounded like a good idea.

oh, wait. she didn't. she said its a joke.

is there a way to set up my browser so that it just wont show me any of the posts on LGF with 'Sarah Palin' in the tag?

I can easily make it so that you don't see anything posted at LGF if you like.

re: #2 wrenchwench

*checks calendar*

Nope, it's not April first.

Uh oh.

I think you're having one of those "I must have slipped into an alternate universe" moments.

I think this has as much chance as a Cheney/Gore ticket.

I doubt Sarah Palin is serious about that. The idea of Glenn Beck on a presidential ticket is ridiculous.

After reading that letter from WND/Farah last night, I'm afraid anything is possible.

Jon and Kate, Glenn and Sarah.

Same level of intelligence.

Imagine these two apocalyptic end-of-times celebrities with access to the nuclear football.

Palin/Beck would be perfect to run against the inevitable James Traficant/Howard Stern ticket :D

re: #25 Lawrence Schmerel

I doubt Sarah Palin is serious about that. The idea of Glenn Beck on a presidential ticket is ridiculous.

The idea of Sarah Palin on a presidential ticket is ridiculous, but it's already happened once.

re: #28 WindUpBird

Palin/Beck would be perfect to run against the inevitable James Traficant/Howard Stern ticket :D

Otherwise known as the "Hair today, Goon tomorrow" Ticket.

re: #27 Gus 802

Jon and Kate, Glenn and Sarah.

Same level of intelligence.

Imagine these two apocalyptic end-of-times celebrities with access to the nuclear football.

Sarah's hair is much better than Kate's.

re: #30 Obdicut

Zing!

re: #1 Baier

I'm starting to believe the 2012 Apocalypse nuts!

I'll only start to believe them if Sarah Palin gets the GOP nomination. Or Lou Dobbs.

I would hope that for all the bluster of these people, the GOP primary voters will prove to be far more sane and reasonable than all that.

re: #29 SanFranciscoZionist

Yes, but it wasn't ridiculous BEFORE it happened.

re: #34 Lawrence Schmerel

Yes, but it wasn't ridiculous BEFORE it happened.

True. It even seemed like a smart idea. And then we met her.

re: #31 SanFranciscoZionist

Sarah's hair is much better than Kate's.

And Jon's is better than The Silver Haired Gopher's. Hmm, maybe we should run a Sarah and Jon ticket for 2012.

Take note RNC!

/

re: #19 SanFranciscoZionist

I think you're right. Man, I hope you're right. I find Palin fun, if horrifying, but the idea of Glenn Beck trying to get through an actual debate is too scary for words.

2012 is the GOP's to lose.

A Palin/Beck ticket will guarantee that outcome.

Obama still looks like a two term president. The Dems could not be more thrilled to watch the Republicans destroying themselves.

re: #33 Lidane

I'll only start to believe them if Sarah Palin gets the GOP nomination. Or Lou Dobbs.

I would hope that for all the bluster of these people, the GOP primary voters will prove to be far more sane and reasonable than all that.

I really can't see this happening, true.

re: #38 Killgore Trout

Obama still looks like a two term president. The Dems could not be more thrilled to watch the Republicans destroying themselves.

Yeah, brings new meaning to Dream Ticket.

re: #13 rollwave87

is there a way to set up my browser so that it just wont show me any of the posts on LGF with 'Sarah Palin' in the tag?

It has been my experience that most threads will contain such a variety of opinions that it's worth reading through the postings, even if the headline annoys you.

re: #40 Gus 802

Yeah, brings new meaning to Dream Ticket.

PLEASE don't throw me in the briar patch!

re: #36 Gus 802

And Jon's is better than The Silver Haired Gopher's. Hmm, maybe we should run a Sarah and Jon ticket for 2012.

Take note RNC!

/

Both Sarah and Jon cut and run when the pressure's on.

re: #4 researchok

Never going to happen.

I think Palin's remarks were a polite response to an idiotic idea. Not even she is crazy enough to even remotely consider the idea.

I agree with others - I think you have it exactly right. It was just a calm response, meaning zilch.

re: #43 MandyManners

Both Sarah and Jon cut and run when the pressure's on.

Good point. I forgot about that. Almost a perfect match.

re: #27 Gus 802

Jon and Kate, Glenn and Sarah.

Same level of intelligence.

Imagine these two apocalyptic end-of-times celebrities with access to the nuclear football.

But if they used the nukes, they'd be raptured up and saved, some of the rest of us would get a hell of a sun tan though.

re: #46 avanti

But if they used the nukes, they'd be raptured up and saved, some of the rest of us would get a hell of a sun tan though.

I thought we were all going to get new cars.

/

re: #14 jaunte

“He calls it like he sees it, and he's very, very, very effective,” Palin added.

At steadily increasing his income.

..and she's not doing too badly, 700,000 books in a week ?

She's too polite to gag on tv when asked about Beck for President - zero chance of that happening. BUT, the way Obama's numbers are going, the GOP should have a sporting chance of getting a dead parrot elected. Let's hope they don't get overconfident with an open goal in front of them.

re: #38 Killgore Trout

Obama still looks like a two term president. The Dems could not be more thrilled to watch the Republicans destroying themselves.

While I tend to agree with you there, don't underestimate the Dems ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

I wonder if the script writers at South Park are toying with this?

re: #38 Killgore Trout

Obama still looks like a two term president. The Dems could not be more thrilled to watch the Republicans destroying themselves.

Nate Silver did a statistical analysis that showed Palin winning if Obama's approval drops to around 40%.

re: #38 Killgore Trout

Obama still looks like a two term president.

Huh ? His approval numbers are plummeting, and he's becoming a joke in the rest of the world. Not sure if Intrade or anyone else is offering odds on 2012 yet, but I'd have a bet right now if they are.

Sorry, but I don't think you can dismiss this out of hand. The GOP is in serious disarray, and there are quite a few people on the far right who would love to see Glenn Beck run for office.

More importantly, the idea that a politician who's being talked about as a Presidential contender wouldn't simply laugh this off -- and she didn't laugh it off, she left the door open -- is beyond disturbing. Glenn Beck touts far right conspiracy craziness right out of the John Birch Society, and consorts with extremists of all kinds.

It's yet another indicator of how far off the rails the right wing has gone, that someone like this is even considered as a possible candidate for high office. It's appalling.

re: #4 researchok

Never going to happen.

I think Palin's remarks were a polite response to an idiotic idea. Not even she is crazy enough to even remotely consider the idea.

Struck me the same way.

re: #53 Charles

Next up: Lou Dobbs.

re: #52 barflytom

Huh ? His approval numbers are plummeting, and he's becoming a joke in the rest of the world. Not sure if Intrade or anyone else is offering odds on 2012 yet, but I'd have a bet right now if they are.

Slight correction, his approval has recently dropped to just under 50% and his world wide approval is very high. Don't forget, Truman won with 38% approval. Obama still leads all the GOP hopefuls by a bunch, but that could change.

re: #53 Charles

Sorry, but I don't think you can dismiss this out of hand. The GOP is in serious disarray, and there are quite a few people on the far right who would love to see Glenn Beck run for office..

Yeah, but I suspect that even the people who would love to see him run must realize he's got to be one of the most un-electable people in the nation due to his divisive and exclusionary nature.

re: #57 Yashmak

Yeah, but I suspect that even the people who would love to see him run must realize he's got to be one of the most un-electable people in the nation due to his divisive and exclusionary nature.

Lately that's seen as more of a feature than a bug. As long as he's excluding RINOs and the like.

A pertinent quote?

“Never underestimate the power of human stupidity.”

- Heinlein

re: #57 Yashmak

Yeah, but I suspect that even the people who would love to see him run must realize he's got to be one of the most un-electable people in the nation due to his divisive and exclusionary nature.

Still, many in the GOP have said they'd rather lose with a "pure conservative" then win with a moderate.

re: #38 Killgore Trout

Obama still looks like a two term president. The Dems could not be more thrilled to watch the Republicans destroying themselves.

Surely, but they're doing a damn good job dividing their own party at the same time.

re: #57 Yashmak

Yeah, but I suspect that even the people who would love to see him run must realize he's got to be one of the most un-electable people in the nation due to his divisive and exclusionary nature.

I think there's a largeish contingent of people who would be willing to nominate him as a 'protest candidate'. I'm not sure if winning is really on their agenda. And I'm quite serious; I think a lot of people will participate in the GOP primary either thinking that the GOP candidate won't have a chance for whatever reason, or that Obama doesn't have a chance for whatever reason.

I do not see much calculation of electability going on in any race other than the governor's races. It seems more about using the primaries as a way to frame the ideological goals and attributes of the GOP.

re: #53 Charles

I don't think she laughed it off because she knows that ultimately, she'll need the support of those dimwits who think a Palin/Beck ticket is a good idea.

In all likelihood, Beck will eventually remove himself as a possible candidate (because he can only hide the fact that he's a recovering alcoholic who morphed into a religious whack job for so long) and become the successor to Rush Limbaugh. He can spout off all day long without having to be responsible or accountable for anything- and make a pile of cash in the process.

Like Rush, Beck does well on his own. He'd lose a lot of his luster if he actually had to work with others and find compromise. That's how it is with one trick pony ideologues.

re: #60 avanti

Still, many in the GOP have said they'd rather lose with a "pure conservative" then win with a moderate.

Those people are (or will be) losers, and fools.

re: #52 barflytom

Huh ? His approval numbers are plummeting, and he's becoming a joke in the rest of the world. Not sure if Intrade or anyone else is offering odds on 2012 yet, but I'd have a bet right now if they are.

It's 3 years away from 2012. That's a political eternity. Single sided Fox News approval polling proves nothing since her positives are based on politically secular views. By the time 2012 rolls around the economy should be in positive numbers.

The administration will be through with pushing all controversial legislation in congress and barring any serious mistake his number will improve. Intrade has Obama ahead if that even means anything. Any real race would be based on an actual political competition.

There's another thing. The idea of "crowning" the gimmicky Sarah Palin is both an insult to the democratic process and the primary electorate. Presidential candidates are chosen by holding primary elections and not according to perceived popular appeal.

This is not a "special presidential election." If they want to crown this vacuous quitter than they'll have another Doug Hoffman on their hands.

re: #63 researchok

I don't think she laughed it off because she knows that ultimately, she'll need the support of those dimwits who think a Palin/Beck ticket is a good idea.

I think that's a good point as well. As has been duly noted, there ARE many who are foolish enough to think Beck on a ticket would be a good idea. If she does have aspirations to high office, it would be counter-productive of her to slap those people in the face, even if she wouldn't really take the idea of being on a ticket with him seriously.

re: #48 barflytom

..and she's not doing too badly, 700,000 books in a week ?

She's too polite to gag on tv when asked about Beck for President - zero chance of that happening. BUT, the way Obama's numbers are going, the GOP should have a sporting chance of getting a dead parrot elected. Let's hope they don't get overconfident with an open goal in front of them.

Dead parrot?

Not on your life - it's just resting!

I don't know which scares me more - them running as Republicans or independents.

Republicans = nasty primary battles and a split/damaged GOP
Independent = Ross Perot effect

re: #51 avanti

Nate Silver did a statistical analysis that showed Palin winning if Obama's approval drops to around 40%.

+1 for the Nate Silver reference since Iceweasel isn't here.

re: #53 Charles

Sorry, but I don't think you can dismiss this out of hand. The GOP is in serious disarray, and there are quite a few people on the far right who would love to see Glenn Beck run for office.

More importantly, the idea that a politician who's being talked about as a Presidential contender wouldn't simply laugh this off -- and she didn't laugh it off, she left the door open -- is beyond disturbing. Glenn Beck touts far right conspiracy craziness right out of the John Birch Society, and consorts with extremists of all kinds.

It's yet another indicator of how far off the rails the right wing has gone, that someone like this is even considered as a possible candidate for high office. It's appalling.

While I agree that the right wing have gone off the rails, I don't think anyone is necessarily dismissing this out of hand. I think it's more a case of hoping against hope that more reasonable people will end up being the majority in the GOP primaries and will keep people like Palin, Beck and Dobbs out of any serious contention for the nomination.

I'm not a Republican, so whatever happens in their primaries isn't up to me. However, I think that despite all the hype she generates, Sarah Palin is a non-starter for national office. She's already been on a losing presidential ticket. She quit her job as governor -- her one claim of executive experience over President Obama -- after 18 months and for no good reason. She's been engaged in a very public pissing contest with a teenage dropout. Most people don't seem to take her seriously at all except as a novelty, and would be hard pressed to vote for her for President if she is the GOP nominee, no matter what Obama's approval numbers are in 2012.

As for Beck, all his opponents would have to do is replay that clip of Cartman as Beck over and over and over along with him blubbering on national TV, and there go his chances. Dobbs is too much of a crazy xenophobe to ever get much traction.

At this point, I'd say the nominee will end up being either Romney or Huckabee. Romney if the economy is still in bad shape by 2012, Huckabee if the social conservatives end up having more of a say in the primaries than any other GOP faction.

I'm gonna wait and see what Letterman says before I throw in with Beck...but who knows, he may do well with Winfrey...I say wait and see

Well, I think what this would ensure is a Democratic win in 2012. (This would be the equivalent of a Ross Perot -- siphoning off a certain number of voters, splitting the voters, and thus ensuring a Democrat gets into office...or "Welcome to Barack Obama's second term."

Uh oh. Beck is going off on Rocekfeller Center again.

re: #59 enigma3535

"Only things are infinite, the Universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the Universe."- Albert Einstein

Seriously, the thought of Glenn Beck being one heartbeat away from being able to launch nuclear weapons will drive independents into Obama's arms in droves.

OMG, that's as bad as the bumper sticker I saw that touted palin/quayle.

The good thing with Palin as Pres however is that the turkey could get butchered on the spot instead of pardoned and then she could make sure those weirdos across from the WH in the tent who have been there decades could get a nice warm meal.

Well, if we're going to be throwing out candidates with no chance,

I nominate Winnie the Pooh/Kermit The Frog for Republicans 2012.

Pooh/Frog 2012!

re: #65 Gus 802

Hmmm...it's at 63 / 37 in favour of the Dems, down from about 70 / 30 a few months ago. That's a 20% profit I missed out on !

What happened to the little box that would take me back to where I was in the thread. Did I miss something?

re: #53 Charles

The GOP is not in serious disarray. They lost an election. It had to happen eventually. The political cycle shows us that the two parties will win then eventually lose the House, the Senate and the presidency. People who say the GOP is in disarray conveniently forget they just won two governorships; one of which was a hard core blue. There are a lot of "candidates" out there simply because there is no definitive frontrunner. Didn't we hear this when the GOP took back the house. It seemed everybody was crying the Democrats were dead. Total BS and hyperbole. The cycle will change again, the only question is how long will President Obama and the Dems hold on to their majorities.

Glenn Beck Tells Solders Not To Reenlist Cuz Gov't May Portray Them As Babykillers

I want to register as a Republican, just so that I can get into the primaries and make this a reality. The entertainment value alone would help me live through the long winters.

re: #79 RogueOne

What happened to the little box that would take me back to where I was in the thread. Did I miss something?

It's still there.

Pass some education please.

If Sarah is not nominated in the republican primaries, could she nominate as a conservative and split the rights votes?

Ala Hoffman NY-23

Tar...

re: #83 MandyManners

I started my weekend a little early, i neglected to remember it only shows when you actually reply to someone.

/doh!

re: #85 RogueOne

I started my weekend a little early, i neglected to remember it only shows when you actually reply to someone.

/doh!

It's five o'clock somewhere!

re: #56 avanti

Slight correction, his approval has recently dropped to just under 50% and his world wide approval is very high. Don't forget, Truman won with 38% approval. Obama still leads all the GOP hopefuls by a bunch, but that could change.

Fair enough, but the press in much of the rest of the world tends to just mimic the mainstream press in the US, where he's still getting a relatively easy ride. I see him as having an accelerated version of Tony Blair's period in office, in that he got elected against a very unpopular party by pretending to be more moderate than he really is. Take away the eloquent speechmaking, and there's not much left of Blair. I think that's even more true of Obama. He's inherited a more difficult situation than Blair did, which is likely to show up his inadequacy a lot sooner.

re: #84 ozbloke

You mean like Ross Perot or John Anderson?

re: #81 Killgore Trout

Glenn Beck Tells Solders Not To Reenlist Cuz Gov't May Portray Them As Babykillers

Ugh.

I think he was referring to Murtha's histrionics...kind of a bizarre thing to say tho

re: #84 ozbloke

Pass some education please.

If Sarah is not nominated in the republican primaries, could she nominate as a conservative and split the rights votes?

Ala Hoffman NY-23

Tar...

In New York State, there is a party called "Conservative", which is the ticket Hoffman ran on. For the presidency, running outside the two main parties is more complex, but it can be done. See John Anderson, Ross Perot, and Ralph Nader. And yes, Palin would take votes from the Republican, and insure a Democrat victory.

In semi-related news, I ate lunch at the Five Guys next to the infamous Palin book signing spot here in Fishers, Indiana. I'm very much enjoying this city. Very pretty.

re: #91 bosforus

In semi-related news, I ate lunch at the Five Guys next to the infamous Palin book signing spot here in Fishers, Indiana. I'm very much enjoying this city. Very pretty.

That was you?

re: #90 wrenchwench

Thanks wrenchwench and jonik,

Im not very familiar with Perot, but I will use some google fu...
Could we put it past the fringe right to play the spoiler if they dont get what they want?

Thanks again.

re: #86 MandyManners

It's already past 5 here so I guess I'm legal now.

btw, Hi Mandy!

re: #91 bosforus

In semi-related news, I ate lunch at the Five Guys next to the infamous Palin book signing spot here in Fishers, Indiana. I'm very much enjoying this city. Very pretty.

Are you new to the area?

re: #94 RogueOne

It's already past 5 here so I guess I'm legal now.

btw, Hi Mandy!

Hiya', RogueOne. Whatcha' drinking?

re: #89 albusteve

Here is his statement in context...
Glenn Beck: I No Longer Support Our Military Action p1

Glenn Beck: I No Longer Support Our Military Action p2

This has been an easily predictable trend. The right is yearning for a return to isolationism and anything will be an excuse. I think Obama losing a war is a plus for them too.

re: #92 MandyManners

That was you?

Yes! I was trying to avoid you!
re: #95 RogueOne

Are you new to the area?

Just visiting family for turkey day. We drove down the road (Meridian?) with the governor's mansion today. Some of the most beautiful homes I've ever seen!

re: #96 MandyManners

water. I rarely drink anymore, I've switched to other things years ago.

re: #93 ozbloke

Thanks wrenchwench and jonik,

Im not very familiar with Perot, but I will use some google fu...
Could we put it past the fringe right to play the spoiler if they dont get what they want?

Thanks again.

I think what you said there is just what they did in New York 23, and I think they'd love to do it again. They get more pleasure from a RINO loss than from a moderate Republican victory, IMHO.

re: #97 Killgore Trout

Here is his statement in context...
Glenn Beck: I No Longer Support Our Military Action p1

[Video]

This has been an easily predictable trend. The right is yearning for a return to isolationism and anything will be an excuse. I think Obama losing a war is a plus for them too.

Only for fucking idiots like Beck.

I've said it before, but what a difference a year makes. Last year people were cheering Palin for breathing life into the GOP ticket, saying "there's nothing to see here, folks" about concerns regarding her anti-science, creationist, anti-choice positions, saying she was set up, taken out of context, or purposefully mis-characterized in the now infamous interviews where she all but totally shit the bed.

And yet, in the past year, Palin has repeatedly demonstrated her distaste for the truth, her love for exaggeration, consistent overreaction, pissiness, and a sense of survival at all costs rivaled only by the cockroach. Not only were her skeptics' concerns confirmed, but she's revealed herself to be so uncomplicated, her agenda should be transparent enough for anyone to see.

Those that see her for what she is have jumped ship. But to the fundies and right wing radicals, she's become a hero, much like Beck; two peas of a pod, two turds of the same stank, two lunatic famewhores running their mouths at every opportunity, selling whatever their base of paranoid, red meat, knuckle-dragging ids wants or needs at the moment.

Beck, Dodd, Palin, Bachmann, Jindal, Huckabee, Perry, and their ilk - I wouldn't vote for them with a gun to my head. Obama sucks in a thousand ways, but he also carries the distinction being none of them. And I'm not voting for any of them.

Well, gotta run. Expecting more family any second now. Just wanted to stop in and wish everyone a happy Thanksgiving! Stay safe!

Again I keep getting booted to the front page.

My Mom loves Glenn Beck AND Sarah Palin. Glad I have some time to talk her out of it. lol

re: #98 bosforus

Yeah, that's a nice neighborhood. If you're near carmel someone has to take you to shapiros for a reuben. The original store is right downtown Indy. Everyone has to go when they visit, it's state law I think.

[Link: www.shapiros.com...]

Sarah, don't pal around politically with Beck, you are better than that.

Ah, it's all pretty disgusting.

re: #100 wrenchwench

Thanks again wrenchwench, when the time comes Ill share some popcorn with you while we watch.

I would not put it past the fringe, I think they smell blood in the water.

Cheers

re: #107 Ojoe

Sarah, don't pal around politically with Beck, you are better than that.

Ah, it's all pretty disgusting.

Sarah is NOT "better" than palling around with Beck, because her supporters and his listeners tend to overlap...a lot.

I admit, I liked Palin when she first came on the scene last year and really wanted her to succeed, but since the election, I've soured on her as she's continued to show her ass in the public spotlight. In my humble opinion and in hindsight, she wasn't and won't be (if ever) ready for the political prime time...there's just too many lapses in judgment for me.

re: #48 barflytom

..and she's not doing too badly, 700,000 books in a week?

Where are you getting that number? It's not even close to the number I saw:

First week sale statistics show "Going Rogue" selling 469,000 copies, less than former president Bill Clinton's 2004 memoir, "My Life" at the same period of sales, but just ahead of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's 2003 "Living History."

re: #84 ozbloke

Pass some education please.

If Sarah is not nominated in the republican primaries, could she nominate as a conservative and split the rights votes?

Ala Hoffman NY-23

Tar...

More like Perot, you mean.

And that's the problem with such an approach - money. Perot had enough dough to finance his own campaign. Palin has little in the way of personal wealth, although it's conceivable she could build up a war chest of contributions over the next three years, although it would take a lot of fancy paper-shuffling to stay within campaign laws. And she hasn't exactly proved herself adept at hiring good managers of any sort up to this point.

At this point, I wouldn't be concerned about Palin, except to beware of allowing her to strengthen her position. And she's angling to do just that during the midterms. She's apparently content to spoil close Republican races if the GOP candidate doesn't meet her purity standards, declare a loss a win on ideological grounds, and then claim credit for the achievement. She'll be even more inclined to credit her own gadfly status for any candidates that happen to win, especially if they're in high-profile races. It's a way for her to build momentum on the wreckage of the GOP, or even on it's successes.

About a year from now is when Palin's threat will be more concretely assessable.

re: #110 Sharmuta

That first week includes all the presales racked up during the preceding month's publicity blitz, too. It's exponential decay from there on out.

re: #110 Sharmuta

less than former president Bill Clinton's 2004 memoir, "My Life" at the same period of sales, but just ahead of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's 2003 "Living History."

News headline: Palin comes between Bill and Hillary Clinton!

re: #110 Sharmuta

Quote:
HarperCollins, publisher of Going Rogue, has announced that sales of the book totaled 750,000 copies so far.

[Link: www.crainsnewyork.com...]

re: #104 MandyManners

hmm...What browser are you using? Is it Explorer?

Hinting that you might run for President ain't a bad way to sell books.
G. Beck esq being only one example.

re: #114 barflytom

Their sales figure doesn't necessarily equal the retail number.

Ugh! Sarah Palin filter please, Charles?

I'd be willing to be president and have Beck as MY VP.

:-)

Thing is, unlike Palin, I realize that I won't be elected no matter who my running mate is.

re: #118 von

Ugh! Sarah Palin filter please, Charles?

See that little "x" in the upper right hand corner...? Or, see post #18.

That is an absurd headline, Charles. Not a chance.

re: #121 Soccermom

That is an absurd headline, Charles. Not a chance.

I completely agree. Obviously, she's kidding. What should she say, "No way!"?
That could change, of course, if Rachel Maddow and Keith Olberman start jockeying for position to replace Joe Biden--then pigs are definitely going to sprout wings.
...getting a bit too literal about off-the-cuff statements, imho.

re: #110 Sharmuta

I saw the number in the Washington Post and the Philadelphia Inquirer--and on AOL news--700,000 the first week. Bill Clinton, they used in comparison, sold 900,000 the first week.

re: #114 barflytom

Quote:
HarperCollins, publisher of Going Rogue, has announced that sales of the book totaled 750,000 copies so far.

[Link: www.crainsnewyork.com...]

Your link says different: Sarah Palin's book sales top chart - Crain's New York Business

Going Rogue, the memoir by the 2008 Republican vice presidential candidate, topped the list of Nielsen BookScan's best selling books for the week of Nov. 16. But while its first-week sales figure of 469,000 copies beat out the sales numbers for James Patterson and Stephen King, it couldn't topple the top dog.

re: #102 theheat

And yet, in the past year, Palin has repeatedly demonstrated her distaste for the truth, her love for exaggeration, consistent overreaction, pissiness, and a sense of survival at all costs rivaled only by the cockroach. Not only were her skeptics' concerns confirmed, but she's revealed herself to be so uncomplicated, her agenda should be transparent enough for anyone to see.
them.

She's pissy?

Hoo-doggy.

Palin/Beck does crystallise the problem for the American centre-right, I can see that.

Sarah Palin is going to be president. she has nothing to do with Glenn beck, Ron Paul, etc. she has everything to do with Lincoln, Roosevelt, McCain, and the gop's other historical names. if u can't see that, you belong in history's dustbin. next to those who doubted Ronald reagan and barack Obama.

Oh brother.

re: #127 rollwave87

Sarah Palin is going to be president. she has nothing to do with Glenn beck, Ron Paul, etc. she has everything to do with Lincoln, Roosevelt, McCain, and the gop's other historical names. if u can't see that, you belong in history's dustbin. next to those who doubted Ronald reagan and barack Obama.

Right, Sarah Palin at the same level as Abraham Lincoln.

Uh huh, right.

re: #127 rollwave87

Sarah Palin is going to be president. [...]

Since you're so good at predictions... what's the price of oil going to be in three months? I'd like to place a bet.

re: #127 rollwave87

Sarah Palin is going to be president.

She'd first have to become a credible political figure instead of a tabloid novelty. I'm not so sure she knows the difference.

What about Michelle Bachmann? Wouldn't she feel left out if there's a Palin/Beck formula?

re: #127 rollwave87

Uh... I know I'm new here and all, but...

Seriously?!

I honestly can't even see what Lincoln, Roosevelt, and McCain have to do with each other, let alone see how Palin is qualified to serve drinks in a bunny costume to that group...

re: #132 mikhailtheplumber

Not to mention that it robs the Republicans of using my very favorite campaign slogan: "Bachmann/Palin Overdrive! Rock on!"

I was rooting for a matchup of the two biggest personalities of the campaign last fall: Palin/Joe the Plumber in 2012!

whatever. I honestly agree with this blog 100% of the time. I just don't see Sarah as the extremist y'all do. I see her as 2009's Washington. I'm just being honest. Sorry if you don't agree. If you want an echochamber listen to Bundestag radio.

Really??
Moms and Dads everywhere know that answering ' We'll see', as Palin did, can mean anything from ' Not a chance in hell , what a silly question ' to ' go away kid, not now'. It's another form of ' Ummm hmmm '.
But hope springs eternal for the MSM, so I suppose it could, at a real stretch, mean ' I'm considering it'.
Sure. Anything's possible.///

ok. can someone please make a case for me why Sarah Palin's stated principles of limited government and strong defense are contradictory to those espoused by LGF? what is it that you hate about her? seriously. it's crazy.

re: #136 rollwave87

I'm new here, but I'll hazard a guess and say that we don't require LGF to be an "echochamber". But I think we prefer it that posts are backed up with supporting evidence that goes beyond "oh, well, that's just my opinion".

Sure, some of her critics might have an ideological axe to grind, but that in of itself doesn't invalidate facts. Plenty of evidence has been provided (on this blog and others - try Andrew Sullivan, for example) of Palin's extremist leanings; her disdain for learning about.. well, most things, really; and an almost pathological tendency to lie, even about trivial things. And to keep on repeating the lie, even after people call her out on it!

I can understand, perhaps, that you like her personality, or whatever, but presidential material? I bloody well hope not!

well, whatever. I still have a lot of respect for this blog. it's like the modern equivalent of a voice silenced by the catholic church. but I'm not going to hide my admiration for, and support of, Alaskas historic gov.

re: #140 rollwave87

It must be awful to be such a persecuted victim. How horrible that your idol is being criticized. Why, that's just like being a martyr.

re: #140 rollwave87

You admire her governorship more than she does, apparently, given that she skipped out of it so quickly.

Re

the man the Anti-Defamation League singled out as “most important mainstream media figure who has repeatedly helped to stoke the fires of anti-government anger:

... they may have to re-award that honor to Harry Reid or POTUS if things keep going downhill.

re: #144 rollwave87

Bye now, dude.

I posted the other day what I thought of Palin: stands for some important principles that are sound but has not demonstrated the intelligence or experience to be an effective President. Values + competence is needed. Competence without values (Carter) doesn't work. Latter day Reagan might have been a case where values with diminished competence worked out not too badly, but perhaps only because his administration could draw down on the definition of himself and his broad policies he had established in his better days. Plus he was lucky, another important quality in a politician, as in Napoleon's generals.

Palin is a star for many of the same reasons as Obama: physical appearance. Garry Willis, in his book about Washington, as I recall, reflected on how importance that can be in politics; Washington was a very tall man, extremely tall for his time. The information age heightens the ability to distribute images as well as words and thoughts. What do people do with the net? Political blogging - but also and celebrity blogging and erotica.

The emphasis on looks in the latter feeds into a politics based on physical appearance. The potential value of blogs in screening out politicians lacking in competence or values does not seem to be consistently realized in practice. Exactly why I am not entirely sure, but it may have something to do with the fast scene changes - compare and contrast citizens listening for hours to debates l ike Lincoln/Douglas - and the tendency of people to read blogs that reinforce their own prejudices.

re: #124 Charles

A bit further down, it does say what I quoted. I don't know whether that's for a week or more, so perhaps I'm wrong. I saw the figure of 700,000 on Drudge originally. If it's 700,000 (750,000?) or 469,000, it's still a lot of books. The points I was trying to make were
1. that she has a big following, and
2. that "running for President" sells a lot of books.

No doubt there are plenty of ways to finagle the sales figures for a heavily promoted book.

re: #133 OneMonkeysUncle

Uh... I know I'm new here and all, but...

Seriously?!

I honestly can't even see what Lincoln, Roosevelt, and McCain have to do with each other, let alone see how Palin is qualified to serve drinks in a bunny costume to that group...

Actually, serving drinks in a bunny costume is something for which she is qualified.

Just.

Finally, the beginning of the end of the GOP.

They're not in the same class. I can't figure who is classier, but there are definitely some incompatible differences in this coupling.

re: #82 idioma

I want to register as a Republican, just so that I can get into the primaries and make this a reality. The entertainment value alone would help me live through the long winters.

I think a Palin/Beck ticket would be an awesome thing to watch. Think about it - at their rallies they can hand out tinfoil hats and boxes of kleenex and those x-ray specs you could order off the back of comic books to see Iran from their rooftops, or some such bullshit. It would most certainly ensure a Dem win.

The ability to care for a co-candidate with the political equivalent of Down Syndrome clearly seems to be more developed than on the Paul/Limbaugh ticket.

He must be making money for Fox although his commercials seem limited to those selling gold. He really is a menace.

Sarah Palin says she would consider running on a ticket with

Uhhh...no she didn't. I'm not a Palin fan at all but seriously, the lady makes enough gaffes without us putting words in her mouth.