I love the bit of sunset breaking up the monochromatism.

I think we lost the blog for a few minutes.

re: #2 Sharmuta

I think we lost the blog for a few minutes.

Yep, I couldn't get it to load. Looks like we're back though.

Ah, a fresh thread, time for...

Bagua's Music Break™

Pali Gap

Aaaah, nice and calm.

Needed that.

And I'm out. Good night.

Smog flirts with the pastels of creation... rain, can it wash away the sins of industrialized man?

Distant are the sails... and distant is our theme of the evening:

re: #5 erraticsphinx

Fare thee well, aincent Egyptian mythological creature of the inconsistent persuasion.

/Good luck finding your nose!

re: #4 Bagua

Music joke. I hope you like puns:

A C, an E-flat, and a G go into a bar. The bartender says: "Sorry, but we don't serve minors." So, the E-flat leaves, and the C and the G have an open fifth between them. After a few drinks, the fifth is diminished: the G is out flat. An F comes in and tries to augment the situation,but is not sharp enough.A D comes into the bar and heads straight for the bathroom saying,Excuse me. I'll just be a second. An A comes into the bar, but the bartender is not convinced that this relative of C is not a minor.Then the bartender notices a B-flat hiding at the end of the bar and exclaims: "Get out now! You're the seventh minor I've found in this bar tonight."The E-flat, not easily deflated, comes back to the bar the next night in a 3-piece suit with nicely shined shoes. The bartender says: "You're looking sharp tonight, come on in! This could be a major development." This proves to be the case, as the E-flat takes off the suit, and everything else, and stands there au naturel. Eventually, the C sobers up, and realizes in horror that he's under a rest. The C is brought to trial,is found guilty of contributing to the diminution of a minor, and is sentenced to 10 years of DS without Coda at an upscale correctional facility. On appeal, however, the C is found innocent of any wrongdoing, even accidental, and that all accusations to the contrary are bassless. The bartender decides, however, that since he's only had tenor so patrons,the soprano out in the bathroom, and everything has become alto much treble, he needs a rest - and closes the bar.

I think we lost the blog again.

re: #10 Sharmuta

Pun overload.

There's a new social movement on the horizon the Dems are cooking up, that might be even more powerful than the Tea Party protesters. The transcript follows:

Hey! - Let's all stick corncobs up our ass and march around the White House, stiff-legged, butt stuck way up in the air, white as can be, with signs that say "9/13 - yo' mama!" and "Where is Reagans Death Certificate?" We'll call ourselves the "cornholers" and we're gonna take back America from the Russians who crossed the Bering Straits while Palin was out signing books.

(Hattip:The Aristocrats)

re: #12 checked08

Stupid.

re: #12 checked08

There's a new social movement on the horizon the Dems are cooking up, that might be even more powerful than the Tea Party protesters. The transcript follows:

(Hattip:The Aristocrats)

I guess that's what happens when the high schoolers are home on break.

Another musician joke:

A music historian heard that Beethoven had been buried with several of his unpublished manuscripts. He snuck into the family vault one night to try and recover them.

As he rounded a corner, he saw a light and heard a scratching sound. there he encountered Beethoven, sitting on his crypt, erasing manuscripts.

"Beethoven, what are you doing?" he asked.

"Decomposing," replied Beethoven.

Bagua's Music Break™

Before I walk on...

Walking Blues - Big Joe Williams

My comment on the LGF Calendar site:

By bagua the Critic

The photographs are refreshingly candid views of the natural world that surrounds us, yet each from a perspective that builds a dream world out of our otherwise urban landscape.

Each month the viewers sees the world from a new perspective, reminding them of the beauty that can be found all around them .

An excellent Holiday Gift for all who appreciate beauty and nature.

Buy your LGF Calendar here!

The lovely photo on this thread would make a fine addition to next years edition.

Looks like the Market will be flat and squishy tomorrow. Fuck! I was hoping for a rambunctious rebound. :D

re: #18 Boogberg

I think my one and only stock broke the $20 per share mark last week. Got it at about the $13.50 mark earlier this year.

re: #19 Fenway_Nation

Do you have a plan to lock in your profit?

re: #18 Boogberg

What do you trade?

re: #19 Fenway_Nation

I think my one and only stock broke the $20 per share mark last week. Got it at about the $13.50 mark earlier this year.

That's delicious! Nicely done.

re: #18 Boogberg

Looks like the Market will be flat and squishy tomorrow. Fuck! I was hoping for a rambunctious rebound. :D

People are being overly cautious after the Dubai default, my best guess is that about 380 billion in capitalization has been lost so far over a 80 billion default. Sigh...

The UAE is not going to allow the default to stand so the whole thing is kinda silly, Abu Dhabi will pay if it has to in order to save it's credit rating. Banks across England and Germany that deal with them have seen their share prices drop and bond issues from Russia and Mexico have also suffered. Meanwhile the currency wars continue with the yen and dollar taking a beating, again...

re: #20 Bagua

Do you have a plan to lock in your profit?

re: #18 Boogberg

What do you trade?

I've doubled my retirement account with BAC. I haven't lost money with that one yet. Although, If I sold now I would. The consensus is that it will double by the end of next year.

re: #23 Boogberg

I've doubled my retirement account with BAC. I haven't lost money with that one yet. Although, If I sold now I would. The consensus is that it will double by the end of next year.

What's your cost basis?

Dalai Lama Urges World To Act On Climate Change
The world's leaders must prioritize the issue of global warming above all else, the Dalai Lama said Monday, adding that he feels encouraged by next month's climate change summit in Copenhagen.

The revered Buddhist figure and Nobel Peace Prize winner, in Australia for a series of lectures on universal responsibility and the environment, said politicians must focus their energy on finding a solution to climate change.

"Sometimes their number one importance is national interest, national economic interest, then global (warming) issue is sometimes second," he said during a news conference. "That I think should change. The global issue, it should be number one."

The 74-year-old Tibetan spiritual leader said he couldn't predict what the outcome of the United Nations summit would be, but was heartened by the very fact that it is being held.

"I think it's very, very encouraging," he said.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Well OK then...now a second Nobel Peace Prize winner is on board.

re: #24 Bagua

What's your cost basis?

About 16.20. But I've been raking it in since it was in the 7's. Protecting profit and all that. :D

re: #25 Spare O'Lake

Too bad he didn't come out in favor of building nuclear plants to cut back on greenhouse gas emissions. His endorsement might get some of the lefties onboard with it...

/

re: #27 ausador

Too bad he didn't come out in favor of building nuclear plants to cut back on greenhouse gas emissions. His endorsement might get some of the lefties onboard with it...

/

It would make sense, as he believes in in reincarnation, his followers would be able to return to earth to help deal with the waste...

re: #21 Boogberg

That's delicious! Nicely done.

I actually played it safe and passed over a few other companies that would've gotten me much better returns in the same timeframe.

But this one was paying out a relatively secure 9% dividend at the time I bought it.

I bought gold at $400 and had to sell around $450 due to taxes and other things. I'd be sitting pretty right now if I didn't have to sell. Good mornin' Honcos!! Got my first good nights sleep in a week last night!!

re: #20 Bagua

plan? I didn't give it too much thought past 'buy low'...

re: #29 Fenway_Nation

I actually played it safe and passed over a few other companies that would've gotten me much better returns in the same timeframe.

But this one was paying out a relatively secure 9% dividend at the time I bought it.

Well the higher the potential return, the riskier it is. You know that. You could just as easily have lost your ass. Sounds to me like you did WAY good.

re: #30 Cannadian Club Akbar

Well...last September I was telling everybody I knew. 'Buy precious metals! For the love of god, scrape together whatever money you have and buy precious metals!'.

Of course, I barely had any money for a stock purchase myself...

re: #30 Cannadian Club Akbar

I bought gold at $400 and had to sell around $450 due to taxes and other things. I'd be sitting pretty right now if I didn't have to sell. Good mornin' Honcos!! Got my first good nights sleep in a week last night!!

Haah! Wait 'til the peak and sell it short. Or go long Dollars. :D

re: #31 Fenway_Nation

The other half of that is 'sell high'. As you're up 48% how much of that are you willing to give back?

I'd like to invest but the savings I have don't even meet the minimum limit. D:

re: #36 laZardo

I'd like to invest but the savings I have don't even meet the minimum limit. D:

To acquire gold you need 2 things:
Chloroform
Pliers.
//

I bought 10 year Mexican bonds right after the 1983 debt restructuring, one isue paid 13.88% and the next paid 17.56%. I was very happy, even more so that I didn't have to bring the money back here and pay capital gains on it. That money is still in South America earning more...err...somewhere or the other (shhhus Uncle Sam doesn't read this right?).

John Demjanjuk the former Nazi prison guard goes on trial today in Germany for WWII holocaust war crimes...finally.
Here's hoping he gets a downpayment on the justice he has for so long managed to evade.

re: #38 ausador

I bought 10 year Mexican bonds right after the 1983 debt restructuring, one isue paid 13.88% and the next paid 17.56%. I was very happy, even more so that I didn't have to bring the money back here and pay capital gains on it. That money is still in South America earning more...err...somewhere or the other (shhhus Uncle Sam doesn't read this right?).

As long as you're not supporting one of the dictatorships Uncle Sam doesn't like.

/ :B

re: #32 Boogberg

re: #35 Bagua

This was almost an impulse buy back when the DJI looked like it was going to crash through the basement.

I was looking at any number of stocks saying to myself 'No way they're going to be this low forever- people will still be using that company no matter how shitty the economy is'. Very unscientific on my part, I know...but my hunch was right.

Same with my prediction re: gold and platinum from last year, except I wasn't able to do tiddly diddly fiddly shit about that one.

re: #38 ausador

I bought 10 year Mexican bonds right after the 1983 debt restructuring, one isue paid 13.88% and the next paid 17.56%. I was very happy, even more so that I didn't have to bring the money back here and pay capital gains on it. That money is still in South America earning more...err...somewhere or the other (shhhus Uncle Sam doesn't read this right?).

We want our Mexican brothers and sisters to make money too. What the fuck do you think NAFTA was all about? :D

re: #42 Boogberg

We want our Mexican brothers and sisters to make money too. What the fuck do you think NAFTA was all about? :D

They do make money. Go to McDonalds near where I live and try ordering in English.

re: #36 laZardo

I'd like to invest but the savings I have don't even meet the minimum limit. D:

Interest rates for most of the 'safe' and traditional investing insturments are complete and utter crap right about now.

I'm thinking along the lines of US Savings Bonds or Certificates of Deposit from FDIC-backed financial institutions. Try and find something that's paying an APY higher than 2% right now...something that doesn't require a 5 to 10 year commitment, at least.

re: #43 Cannadian Club Akbar

They do make money. Go to McDonalds near where I live and try ordering in English.

Lol :D

San Diego, eh?

re: #45 Boogberg

Lol :D

San Diego, eh?

Florida. West Central.

re: #44 Fenway_Nation

The majority of my US savings (about $2,000) are in a Chase-formerly-WaMu CD, I'll check up on the rates again. Other'n that the minimum required CDs here will leave me less than the minimum balance required to maintain my savings account w/o penalty for the time being.

And that's not counting a credit card, which my relatives insist I should get (with a low limit) so I can start building up my credit rating in case I need to get a house.

/ah, the pressures of my generation.

re: #46 Cannadian Club Akbar

Florida. West Central.

Oh Christ on a pogo stick. That's even worse! :D

re: #48 Boogberg

Oh Christ on a pogo stick. That's even worse! :D

Didn't you used to live here? Orlando area?

re: #49 Cannadian Club Akbar

Didn't you used to live here? Orlando area?

Yeah I live just West of Orlando. I helped build Dr. Phillips High School.

re: #50 Boogberg

Yeah I live just West of Orlando. I helped build Dr. Phillips High School.

I lived about 3 miles from the airport years ago. Never again.

re: #51 Cannadian Club Akbar

re: #50 Boogberg

But dudes...DISNEY WORLD. :O

re: #47 laZardo

How long was it in there for? It might've actually dated back to when interest rates were appealing and competitve.

I remember getting a few hundred dollars worth of US Savings bonds last year back when the interest rates were anywhere in the nieghborhood from 3% to 6.2%...

One of the nearby banks had a promotional 1-year CD with a 5% interest rate that I took advantage of, but that matured earlier this year.

Oh...and morning, Spare O'Lake.

re: #52 laZardo

re: #50 Boogberg

But dudes...DISNEY WORLD. :O

Try hitting I-4 after Disney closes. NIGHTMARE!!!

re: #55 Cannadian Club Akbar

Nothing good can ever come from having a single-digit itnerstate running through your city/

re: #53 Fenway_Nation

I had a 3-year CD starting in 2006 maturing early 2009. I had it auto-rolled into the same term (at probably less than 2%) seeing as how I was going to have to end up getting my bachelor's degree here.

re: #47 laZardo

See if you can get a basic (not "blue") American Express card. You have to pay it off in full every month so it isn't like your going to build up debt but you will build an excellant credit rateing. That is how I started, next thing I knew I had offers from all the credit card companies pouring in.

Nowadays if I went out and charged everything I have up to the max I'd be about $130,000 in debt, nice to have I guess but only if you don't use it. I have seen too damn many people sucked into the credit card debt black hole, really you should just save for things and pay cash, you can't get into trouble that way. To build a excellant credit rating you still do that, you just charge it to the card and then pay it off in full at the end of the month instead.

re: #52 laZardo

re: #50 Boogberg

But dudes...DISNEY WORLD. :O

Yeah Disney is good for the local economy. Sea World. Universal Studios. MGM studios (oh crap! That's Disney). You name it.

re: #58 ausador

I don't know if they have American Express in the Philippines. >_> The bank my savings are at requires a P10,000 minimum deposit and I've got about P12K now...but there's a P3K minimum savings requirement.

re: #58 ausador

I started with a secured CC with a $400 limit years ago. When I got laid off I had a Chase Platinum and an AMEX Platinum. Not no more.

You could always try Israeli bonds...

/The Mazel Tov Bonds look more my speed given my current status and the like.

re: #62 Fenway_Nation

I refuse to directly finance oppression!

///

/downloading information forms now

re: #56 Fenway_Nation

Nothing good can ever come from having a single-digit itnerstate running through your city/

Bullshit! Me and my buddy saw "Beatlemania" at the Peabody Orlando about a million years ago. That dance floor was a hoppin'! :D

re: #64 Boogberg

Bullshit! Me and my buddy saw "Beatlemania" at the Peabody Orlando about a million years ago. That dance floor was a hoppin'! :D

Did you get to see the ducks march into the fountain?

Cops have a house with Clemmens in it surrounded.

Aww, they don't sell internationally. ):

Nightey night, all!

re: #65 Cannadian Club Akbar

Did you get to see the ducks march into the fountain?

No, but we did do some skinnydipping in one of the small pools they have. We pretended we were rock stars when management confronted us. They actually bought it for about 30 minutes. :D

re: #66 MandyManners

Cops have a house with Clemmens in it surrounded.

I heard hints that Huckabee might have set him free but can't find a link. My radio will tell me more in a few minutes. And not trying to be a rumor monger here.

re: #70 Cannadian Club Akbar

I heard hints that Huckabee might have set him free but can't find a link. My radio will tell me more in a few minutes. And not trying to be a rumor monger here.

Ummm...are you joking?

In 1989, Clemmons, then 17, was convicted in Little Rock for aggravated robbery. He was paroled in 2000 after Huckabee commuted a 95-year prison sentence. Huckabee, who was criticized during his run for the Republican presidential nomination in 2008 for granting many clemencies and commutations, cited Clemmons' youth. Clemmons later violated his parole, was returned to prison and released in 2004.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

re: #72 Cannadian Club Akbar

From article...

Clemmons has an extensive violent criminal history from Arkansas. He also recently was arrested and charged in Washington state for assaulting a police officer, and second-degree rape of a child. Using a bail bondsman, he posted $150,000 — only $15,000 of his own money — and was released from jail last week.

re: #72 Cannadian Club Akbar

Look at the previous thread.

re: #74 MandyManners

Look at the previous thread.

I ran right passed it this morning. Was in bed early last night, so missed it then.

re: #61 Cannadian Club Akbar

I started with a secured CC with a $400 limit years ago. When I got laid off I had a Chase Platinum and an AMEX Platinum. Not no more.

Chase isn't bad, at least they gave me call when I bought my last truck, "We were just inquiring because we are showing a charge for $29,500 here and your card has been inactive for almost a year."

"Yeah, I bought a truck."

"Well we saw that, we just wanted to check that you had authorized the charge."

"Yes and I already mailed you a check for the balance."

"No sir, I mean...we weren't asking for payment we just wanted to make sure that you were the one using the card."

"Yes it was me, and yes your being paid in full before interest accrues on my account, but thank you for verifying the purchase with me."

Now a little snotty sounding, "Your welcome sir and thank you for doing your business with Chase."

(Yes I laughed after she hung up)

Are we still talking about the Seattle Shootout?

re: #75 Cannadian Club Akbar

I ran right passed it this morning. Was in bed early last night, so missed it then.

More coffee?

re: #76 ausador

Chase called me when I bought silk sheets online. Big change from my regular bar purchases, I guess.:)

re: #76 ausador

Chase isn't bad, at least they gave me call when I bought my last truck, "We were just inquiring because we are showing a charge for $29,500 here and your card has been inactive for almost a year."

"Yeah, I bought a truck."

"Well we saw that, we just wanted to check that you had authorized the charge."

"Yes and I already mailed you a check for the balance."

"No sir, I mean...we weren't asking for payment we just wanted to make sure that you were the one using the card."

"Yes it was me, and yes your being paid in full before interest accrues on my account, but thank you for verifying the purchase with me."

Now a little snotty sounding, "Your welcome sir and thank you for doing your business with Chase."

(Yes I laughed after she hung up)

Why so harsh on the CSR? She was looking out for your best interest!

re: #80 MandyManners

Thats harsh?

You should hear what I tell amex then!

///

re: #78 MandyManners

More coffee?

Was early. I have 3 email accounts and about 5 other things to check in the AM. My bad.

re: #77 laZardo

Are we still talking about the Seattle Shootout?

Parkland but, who's quibbling?

re: #81 ausador

Thats harsh?

You should hear what I tell amex then!

///

What if Chase had not called you and it turned out that you had lost your card and the finder had got a new truck on your dime?

re: #82 Cannadian Club Akbar

Was early. I have 3 email accounts and about 5 other things to check in the AM. My bad.

Nothing bad about it. Shit happens.

re: #84 MandyManners

What if Chase had not called you and it turned out that you had lost your card and the finder had got a new truck on your dime?

I wasn't mean, I was polite, she was just pissed off because I'm one of those "deadbeats" who always pays their charges off in full every month. They don't really make anything off me but the retailer percentage fees which I doubt even covers their overhead.

What did I say that was wrong? I did wait until she was off the line to laugh at her after all. ;)

re: #79 Cannadian Club Akbar

Chase called me when I bought silk sheets online. Big change from my regular bar purchases, I guess.:)

You had a hot date?

In bed?

re: #87 ausador

You had a hot date?

In bed?

I couldn't get a date in a woman's prison with a handful of pardons!!
///

re: #86 ausador

I wasn't mean, I was polite, she was just pissed off because I'm one of those "deadbeats" who always pays their charges off in full every month. They don't really make anything off me but the retailer percentage fees which I doubt even covers their overhead.

What did I say that was wrong? I did wait until she was off the line to laugh at her after all. ;)

It might've been nice to thank her for looking out for you.

*sigh*

It's not my place to bust anyone's chops, ausador. I apologize.

I started to say:

Since when? I got some chops you can bust babe...

Then I thought - Maybe not. :D

re: #89 MandyManners

Doesn't count?

but thank you for verifying the purchase with me

re: #91 Boogberg

I started to say:

Since when? I got some chops you can bust babe...

Then I thought - Maybe not. :D

Is that what you kiss are calling it nowadays?

re: #92 ausador

Doesn't count?

Oh, brother. Reading compreshension is my friend. Double apology.

Anyway...

Cops: Suspect in officer killings may be dead

SEATTLE - A suspect in the coffee-shop slayings of four officers is holed up at a Seattle house, wounded and possibly dead, police said Monday.

Pierce County Sheriff's spokesman Ed Troyer said negotiators were trying to communicate with Maurice Clemmons, 37.

Authorities have been seeking Clemmons in the deaths of four Lakewood police officers gunned down in a Parkland coffee shop on Sunday morning. They believe the gunman may have been wounded by one of the victims.

Late Sunday, they began to focus on the Seattle house, about 30 miles from the crime scene.

Negotiators used loudspeakers and explosions to try to prod Clemmons from hiding. Later, gunshots rang through the neighborhood.

Officers surrounding the house shone lights on the house and called out to Clemmons by name, saying: "Mr. Clemmons, I'd like to get you out of there safely. I can tell you this, we are not going away."

Any response from inside the house was inaudible from the vantage of a photographer for The Associated Press. But shortly thereafter, police began using sirens outside the house, and there were several loud bangs before the negotiator resumed speaking.

Again with almost completely baseless assumptions being reported as news, I thought these people went to college for this shit for goodness sake. :(

re: #90 MandyManners

re: #92 ausador

Credit Card companies have called me several times over the years alerting me of 'unusual" activity on one of my cards
I both appreciate that they do AND am somewhat annoyed that they monitor "me" that closely
That stated, I am always nice to the person that calls
REASON,,,(s)he has ALL my info and if (s)he ever gets fired or walsk out the door pissed off I do not want them walking out remembering "that ashole" they talked to on the phone last week!

re: #95 ausador

Anyway...

Cops: Suspect in officer killings may be dead

Again with almost completely baseless assumptions being reported as news, I thought these people went to college for this shit for goodness sake. :(

[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

It's a breaking story so the reporters are gonna' go with what they get from the cops without verifying because there is no way to verify.

re: #96 sattv4u2

True that.

re: #95 ausador

Cops: Suspect in officer killings may be dead

negotiators were trying to communicate with Maurice Clemmons, 37.

Time to call in Miss Chloe or James Van Praagh!!

re: #99 sattv4u2

Cops: Suspect in officer killings may be dead

negotiators were trying to communicate with Maurice Clemmons, 37.

Time to call in Miss Chloe or James Van Praagh!!

Why not just go with a Magic 8-Ball?

re: #100 MandyManners

Why not just go with a Magic 8-Ball?

{blush},,, a tad personal there, no!?!?!

re: #100 MandyManners

Why not just go with a Magic 8-Ball?

Maybe Huckabee can help.

Where are the damn ninjas when you need them?

re: #103 ausador

I'm right behind you. Melted into the shadows. Waiting for your bidding.

re: #101 sattv4u2

{blush},,, a tad personal there, no!?!?!

You have just one?

re: #102 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Maybe Huckabee can help.

From his statement released yesterday, he's backing way away from this.

re: #103 ausador

Where are the damn ninjas when you need them?

In bed.

re: #106 MandyManners

His Willie Horton.

I'm shocked people still gave a shit about Huckabee anyway. Guy was worthless to begin with, and it shows here with this situation.

I guess they have all gone commercial now, hiding in plain sight in internet gag photos and stuff. But where are they when we want them to sneak up on a murderer, no where around, thats where.

Next time I'm rooting for the pirates, they have cooler clothes and eye patches and parrots and stuff anyway.

re: #93 MandyManners

Is that what you kiss are calling it nowadays?

I'll see yooou, after school :D

re: #109 TheMatrix31

I'm shocked people still gave a shit about Huckabee anyway. Guy was worthless to begin with, and it shows here with this situation.

He had lost me completely even before he started talking about changing the constitution to make this a theocracy. The guy is dangerous...

re: #112 ausador

Not anymore, he ain't.

Neutered.

re: #108 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

His Willie Horton.

IIRC, Horton was released after committing a murder but, Clemmens was released after committing aggravated robbery.

re: #111 Boogberg

I'll see yooou, after school :D

I wish I had half her chest.

re: #115 MandyManners

I wish I had half her chest.

What good is one boob going to do ya?!

re: #116 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

What good is one boob going to do ya?!

With one that size why do you need another one?

HOLD THE WEDDIN

I stepped away for a moment and missed sumfin

What does Huckabee have to do with the cop killer!?!?!

re: #118 sattv4u2

Dude. Check out the previous thread.

re: #118 sattv4u2

HOLD THE WEDDIN

I stepped away for a moment and missed sumfin

What does Huckabee have to do with the cop killer!?!?!

I made an ass of myself earlier with the same question.

re: #116 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

What good is one boob going to do ya?!

Yeah, about three seconds after I hit "post" I had the same thought.

I once dated a woman whose boobs were on her back

She wasn't much to look at but REAL fun to slow dance with!

re: #117 ausador

With one that size why do you need another one?

You like to fondle boobs? or you wanna mountain climb...

re: #119 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Dude. Check out the previous thread.

oh ,,, K ,,, mayber later

Heading back to beddy by!

re: #115 MandyManners

I wish I had half her chest.

I'll take half her chest and all o' you, babe! :D

re: #124 sattv4u2

oh ,,, K ,,, mayber later

Heading back to beddy by!

The story is there.

re: #125 Boogberg

I'll take half her chest and all o' you, babe! :D

Aw, shucks.

re: #127 MandyManners

Aw, shucks.

And you thought chivalry was dead!

re: #128 Boogberg

And you thought chivalry was dead!

HA!

I knew that some people say Import cars are safer than American made ones but this is taking things too far...

/

Ex-autoworker goes on trial for 27,900 deaths

MUNICH - John Demjanjuk goes on trial Monday on charges of being an accessory to the murder of 27,900 Jews at a Nazi death camp, opening the final chapter of some 30 years of efforts to prosecute the retired Ohio autoworker.

Probably the last of the big war crime trials, everyone else has died already, good riddance to bad rubbish.

re: #130 ausador

I knew that some people say Import cars are safer than American made ones but this is taking things too far...

/

Ex-autoworker goes on trial for 27,900 deaths

Probably the last of the big war crime trials, everyone else has died already, good riddance to bad rubbish.

Today, eh? About time.

It's back tomorrow.

re: #132 MandyManners

It's back tomorrow.

I used to send that link to my neices and nephews.

Good morning. Here's a sweet song.

Inside

re: #132 MandyManners

It's back tomorrow.

Will they send up the predator drones up in case he turns out to be a hostile?

re: #133 Cannadian Club Akbar

I used to send that link to my neices and nephews.

Are they too old now?

I think this is the last year that The Kid will believe in Santa.

re: #135 ausador

Will they send up the predator drones up in case he turns out to be a hostile?

Somewhere I have packed away a cartoon after the Soviets shot down that KAL flight IN 1983. It shows a MIG going after Santa.

re: #136 MandyManners

Are they too old now?

I think this is the last year that The Kid will believe in Santa.

Yep. To old. I remember the year, when I was a sweet little lad, I had to call bullshit on my parents.:)

re: #138 Cannadian Club Akbar

Yep. To old. I remember the year, when I was a sweet little lad, I had to call bullshit on my parents.:)

I was too scared to call it on mine. I didn't want the presents to stop.

re: #136 MandyManners

Are they too old now?

I think this is the last year that The Kid will believe in Santa.

When my son asked me, he phrased it as a declarative. So, I told him the truth. I also told him that he had a very important big-boy responsibility... that if he meets any kid who believes in Santa, that the kid should still believe after he talks to them.

He never ruined it for anybody that I know of.

re: #140 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

When my son asked me, he phrased it as a declarative. So, I told him the truth. I also told him that he had a very important big-boy responsibility... that if he meets any kid who believes in Santa, that the kid should still believe after he talks to them.

He never ruined it for anybody that I know of.

Ah, yes. The polite fiction. Good for you.

re: #141 MandyManners

Ah, yes. The polite fiction. Good for you.

And, good for him.

Hurricane season ends today. Now I give away my hurricane food away.

re: #140 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

When my son asked me, he phrased it as a declarative. So, I told him the truth. I also told him that he had a very important big-boy responsibility... that if he meets any kid who believes in Santa, that the kid should still believe after he talks to them.

He never ruined it for anybody that I know of.

That's the most mature way to handle it I've ever seen. Thanks very much for that; I'm going to use that myself.

Smart man.

I liked "The House that Jack Built" when I was a boy.

re: #143 Cannadian Club Akbar

Hurricane season ends today. Now I give away my hurricane food away.

What kind of food is hurricane food?

re: #144 Obdicut

That's the most mature way to handle it I've ever seen. Thanks very much for that; I'm going to use that myself.

I was vamping, came like a bolt from the blue. But, it worked. So, yay me!

re: #146 MandyManners

What kind of food is hurricane food?

Canned goods, mostly. Also fruit/granola bar type things. I save my water for my sister for her yearly visit from Canada.

re: #148 Cannadian Club Akbar

Canned goods, mostly. Also fruit/granola bar type things. I save my water for my sister for her yearly visit from Canada.

Do people still have hurricane parties?

Aww...there goes my four weeks of bandwidth, my Aunt wants me to grab "All creatures great and small" for her off torrent. Seven seasons, 87 episodes, three christmas specials, 32.13Gb on the only live torrents I can find for it. If only it didn't take at least four times as long to upload that much as to download it, damn you upload cap!

Oh well I suppose it will make an extremely cheap Christmas present if all I have to buy are the DVDs to copy it to. But in the meantime there goes my Hulu watching and I'm also going back to waiting five minutes for a one minute youtube video to load. I really need to buy more bandwidth...

re: #149 MandyManners

Do people still have hurricane parties?

In '04 we had one thinking the thing had passed. It didn't. It stalled. I was outside smoking, saying WTF. Anything CAT 2 or less really isn't a big deal, except for some flooding.

re: #150 ausador

Aww...there goes my four weeks of bandwidth, my Aunt wants me to grab "All creatures great and small" for her off torrent. Seven seasons, 87 episodes, three christmas specials, 32.13Gb on the only live torrents I can find for it. If only it didn't take at least four times as long to upload that much as to download it, damn you upload cap!

Oh well I suppose it will make an extremely cheap Christmas present if all I have to buy are the DVDs to copy it to. But in the meantime there goes my Hulu watching and I'm also going back to waiting five minutes for a one minute youtube video to load. I really need to buy more bandwidth...

How does one buy more bandwidth? Isn't that part of your ISP package?

re: #151 Cannadian Club Akbar

In '04 we had one thinking the thing had passed. It didn't. It stalled. I was outside smoking, saying WTF. Anything CAT 2 or less really isn't a big deal, except for some flooding.

I'd rather live in a hurricane zone than tornado alley. You can see a hurricane coming for days.

re: #153 MandyManners

Always thought of that as living on the railroad tracks.

Pres. Bush announced The Surge from the Oval Office. BHO is announcing the increase in troops in a speech at West Point.

re: #154 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Always thought of that as living on the railroad tracks.

It can be exciting!

re: #153 MandyManners

I'd rather live in a hurricane zone than tornado alley. You can see a hurricane coming for days.

I caught Stormchasers on discovery or NGC last night. What a stupid show. They set themselves up to intercept a tornado, then act suprised that one is bearing down on them. Idiots.

re: #157 Cannadian Club Akbar

Like a dog chasing a car...

re: #158 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Like a dog chasing a car...

Or me chasing a woman...

re: #152 MandyManners

How does one buy more bandwidth? Isn't that part of your ISP package?

They have faster plans than the one I am on, but it really wouldn't help that much in reality. If your downloading something twentyfour seven at 60-80 KBs or more depending on the seeds it slows anything else your trying to download even though you theoretically have more bandwidth. Besides the upload cap doesn't change regardless of the download plan from my ISP and that is what really slows you down, if your upload is maxed constantly none of the other programs that need two way communication work as quickly as they should.

Since I am honorable about my torrent behaviour and always upload more than I download I figure I'll be at this one for right around a month before I can declare it done.

re: #156 MandyManners

It can be exciting!

So can living in Tornado Alley. You just have to know how to play it. Personally, I always found the unpredictability rather exciting.

re: #157 Cannadian Club Akbar

I caught Stormchasers on discovery or NGC last night. What a stupid show. They set themselves up to intercept a tornado, then act suprised that one is bearing down on them. Idiots.

Adrenaline junkies.

re: #160 ausador

They have faster plans than the one I am on, but it really wouldn't help that much in reality. If your downloading something twentyfour seven at 60-80 KBs or more depending on the seeds it slows anything else your trying to download even though you theoretically have more bandwidth. Besides the upload cap doesn't change regardless of the download plan from my ISP and that is what really slows you down, if your upload is maxed constantly none of the other programs that need two way communication work as quickly as they should.

Since I am honorable about my torrent behaviour and always upload more than I download I figure I'll be at this one for right around a month before I can declare it done.

I have no idea what you just said but, I have a sneaking suspicion it's about tech stuff.

re: #162 MandyManners

Adrenaline junkies.

No, more like Drama Queens. And don't get me wrong, I love what they're doing as far as the science goes, but they played it up for the cameras.

re: #161 thedopefishlives

So can living in Tornado Alley. You just have to know how to play it. Personally, I always found the unpredictability rather exciting.

What I don't like is the increase in my BP and pulse rate when the sirens go off. It's like main-lining meth.

re: #164 Cannadian Club Akbar

No, more like Drama Queens. And don't get me wrong, I love what they're doing as far as the science goes, but they played it up for the cameras.

They might really be that excitable but, I can see them hamming it up for the camera.

re: #165 MandyManners

What I don't like is the increase in my BP and pulse rate when the sirens go off. It's like main-lining meth.

I'll admit, I'm a bit of an adrenaline junkie. The only thing I don't really do well is heights, which sucks from the standpoint of my wife loves roller coasters and the like. I do not.

re: #167 thedopefishlives

I'll admit, I'm a bit of an adrenaline junkie. The only thing I don't really do well is heights, which sucks from the standpoint of my wife loves roller coasters and the like. I do not.

I can ride the biggest roller coaster, but get nervous on a step ladder.

re: #167 thedopefishlives

I'll admit, I'm a bit of an adrenaline junkie. The only thing I don't really do well is heights, which sucks from the standpoint of my wife loves roller coasters and the like. I do not.

PTSD keeps one on enough of an edge with the fligh-or-fight/hypervigilance. I don't need to add to it.

re: #169 MandyManners

PTSD keeps one on enough of an edge with the fligh-or-fight/hypervigilance. I don't need to add to it.

True enough. I'm young and stupid, I can get away with it. I've lived through two or three tornadoes already in my short lifetime.

re: #168 Cannadian Club Akbar

I can ride the biggest roller coaster, but get nervous on a step ladder.

I'm getting a lot better about it, but I still get really out of sorts sometimes with certain high places. I had an interview in a mid-level skyscraper in downtown Minneapolis a couple of years ago, and I couldn't go near the windows.

re: #150 ausador

[snip] But in the meantime there goes my Hulu watching and I'm also going back to waiting five minutes for a one minute youtube video to load. I really need to buy more bandwidth...

With utorrent I believe the options for limiting bandwidth usage are pretty versatile. I think you can even specify limits according to time of day and day of the week, for routine operations.

re: #170 thedopefishlives

I have been on floor 102 of the Empire State building. The guy running the elevator insinuated that I was afraid of heights.

Back to the grind.

re: #171 abolitionist

With utorrent I believe the options for limiting bandwidth usage are pretty versatile. I think you can even specify limits according to time of day and day of the week, for routine operations.

If you have broadband, don't the uTorrents download in the background? You should still be able to watch Hulu.

Women warriors of the PKK
(slide show)
About 40% of PKK fighters are women according to the slides.

Goes well with a little Dire Straits:

re: #174 Boogberg

If you have broadband, don't the uTorrents download in the background? You should still be able to watch Hulu.

Background downloading can still soak up all your bandwidth, depending on the parameters. Also, video is still one of the most expensive things from a bandwidth perspective, so to get reasonable performance from torrenting and streaming, some controls would need to be in place.

re: #174 Boogberg

If you have broadband, don't the uTorrents download in the background? You should still be able to watch Hulu.

Yes. Unless your bandwith is barely sufficient for watching hulu in the first place, you can simply constrain the upload & download bandwith for utorrent. For more flexibility, the scheduler lets you specify the days/hours that it's allowed to operate, and whether the bandwidth usage is to be limited or not, hour by hour.

Ah I see what you're saying. Slow down the upload speed so as not to overtax the bandwidth and CPU, yes?

re: #178 Boogberg

Ah I see what you're saying. Slow down the upload speed so as not to overtax the bandwidth and CPU, yes?

Or throttle the download speed to make sure there's sufficient bandwidth to accomodate the Hulu stream. How much bandwidth does Hulu take, anyway? I've never used it before.

re: #178 Boogberg

Yes.

re: #180 abolitionist

Yes.

I meant to say download speed. Sorry.

You climate warriors should pay attention to emerging technology. For all you know, this global warming stuff will be reversed and accelerated by your grandchildren. Don't underestimate future generations, boys and girls.

Who wants to guess one of the six things Charles will talk about? :D

re: #183 Boogberg

Who wants to guess one of the six things Charles will talk about? :D

This...
[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

re: #184 Cannadian Club Akbar

This...
[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

Nah, he already did that one.

Clemmons' criminal past, and update on his status-- cornered, possibly dead:

Man Said to Be Cornered in Tacoma Shooting

A man suspected of gunning down four uniformed officers was cornered in a Seattle home early Monday and the police said he might have died from a gunshot wound, according to news reports.

re: #185 Boogberg

Nah, he already did that one.

Didn't know that. Date stamp was from today. I need to peddle faster on the ol' bike.

Iran vows to expand its nuclear program
10 uranium-enrichment sites announced after international rebuke

Iran's government will build 10 new sites to enrich uranium, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Sunday, a dramatic expansion of the country's nuclear program and one that is bound to fuel fears that it is attempting to produce a nuclear weapon.

re: #188 iceweasel

Iran vows to expand its nuclear program
10 uranium-enrichment sites announced after international rebuke

They just haven't opened their new and improved strongly worded letter.
/

re: #188 iceweasel

one that is bound to fuel fears that it is attempting to produce a nuclear weapon.

I would think that such a move makes it patently obvious, but what do I know?

re: #189 Cannadian Club Akbar

They just haven't opened their new and improved strongly worded letter.
/

Like that old Robin Williams joke about the police in England-- the US cop says "Stop or I'll shoot!" The bobby sez "Stop!...or I'll say 'Stop' again!"

re: #191 iceweasel

Like that old Robin Williams joke about the police in England-- the US cop says "Stop or I'll shoot!" The bobby sez "Stop!...or I'll say 'Stop' again!"

I've seen footage of Russian police. They get it done.

re: #192 Cannadian Club Akbar

I've seen footage of Russian police. They get it done.

Hey, I saw that! Well, one episode of "Cops" that was in Russia. :)
On the other hand, I did see some episode of Cops that was in the UK and had riot footage. That was hardcore.

re: #191 iceweasel

Like that old Robin Williams joke about the police in England-- the US cop says "Stop or I'll shoot!" The bobby sez "Stop!...or I'll say 'Stop' again!"

"Every parent dreams about their kid stepping up to a microphone. Sometimes you dream that he says `I'd like to accept this Nobel Prize in honor of my parents', and sometimes you dream they step up to the microphone and say `Would you like fries with that?'" - Robin Williams

Anyone heard of the guy who wrote this?
[Link: www.cato-at-liberty.org...]

re: #186 iceweasel

Clemmons' criminal past, and update on his status-- cornered, possibly dead:

Man Said to Be Cornered in Tacoma Shooting

A man suspected of gunning down four uniformed officers was cornered in a Seattle home early Monday and the police said he might have died from a gunshot wound, according to news reports.

Send in the Strike Team and go all Vick Mackey on his a**.

re: #187 Cannadian Club Akbar

Didn't know that. Date stamp was from today. I need to peddle faster on the ol' bike.

Yeah. It's the third thread down. Could be an update though. :D

re: #195 Cannadian Club Akbar

Anyone heard of the guy who wrote this?
[Link: www.cato-at-liberty.org...]

Sure haven't. But I've been reading Insureblog and they're also covering the health care debate pretty closely. You might want to check them out.

re: #197 Boogberg

Yeah. It's the third thread down. Could be an update though. :D

I missed 2 threads from yesterday. 11 hours of football will do that I guess.:)

re: #195 Cannadian Club Akbar

Anyone heard of the guy who wrote this?
[Link: www.cato-at-liberty.org...]

I haven't heard of that specific guy, but the Cato Institute is a libertarian thinktank with extensive ties to the tobacco industry as well as other big corporate interests (they propagate misleading info on climate change, eg.)
Here's sourcewatch on them.

I'd have an automatic suspicion of anything they published having to do with health care reform.

re: #196 KenJen

It's possible that Clemmons is already dead or injured. I wouldn't want to risk any more police lives on this guy. Wait him out.

re: #200 iceweasel

I don't usually pay attention to think tanks, but that caught my eye. Think tanks usually have an underlying motive. Thanks.

George Will continues to carry water for the anti-AGW types:

Will distorted stolen CRU emails to argue against climate change legislation

George Will falsely claimed that "one of the emails" reportedly stolen from the U.K.'s Climate Research Unit (CRU) said that a climate scientist "wished he could delete, get rid of, the medieval warming period [MWP]." In fact, the scientist wrote in the email that he wanted to " 'contain' the putative 'MWP' " and has stated that the email "reflected his desire to identify exactly when the Medieval Warm Period began"; moreover, Will misrepresented the context of another CRU email in falsely claiming that a scientist wrote, "[I]t is a travesty that we cannot explain the fact that global warming has stopped."

Seriously, WTF happened to George Will? He's turned into such a hack.

re: #199 Cannadian Club Akbar

I missed 2 threads from yesterday. 11 hours of football will do that I guess.:)

Lol! :D I love football too. Hell, I'm even getting into soccer. They been showing it on ESPN.

re: #202 Cannadian Club Akbar

I don't usually pay attention to think tanks, but that caught my eye. Think tanks usually have an underlying motive. Thanks.

It could still be worth reading-- not every single person who gets a fellowship there or publishes something for them is necessarily a hack, but they absolutely do have an agenda overall. (I know someone who was once affiliated with them).

re: #201 lawhawk

It's possible that Clemmons is already dead or injured. I wouldn't want to risk any more police lives on this guy. Wait him out.

Right. Sorry. I'm on season four of The Shield. I'm a little pumped up.

re: #206 KenJen

Right. Sorry. I'm on season four of The Shield. I'm a little pumped up.

IIRC, the very first episode when it came out Vic took a phonebook to a child molester. Way cool.

re: #186 iceweasel

Clemmons' criminal past, and update on his status-- cornered, possibly dead:

Man Said to Be Cornered in Tacoma Shooting

A man suspected of gunning down four uniformed officers was cornered in a Seattle home early Monday and the police said he might have died from a gunshot wound, according to news reports.

Right. Police spokesman said they were fairly sure he had been shot in the torso. That could be fatal after this time elapse.
Caution applies here. No need to let that nutter shoot any more police. It's a fairly safe bet that all manner of high- tech gadgetry will be employed to find exactly where he is located within that residence, if he really is there.

re: #208 Capitalist Tool

Right. Police spokesman said they were fairly sure he had been shot in the torso. That could be fatal after this time elapse.
Caution applies here. No need to let that nutter shoot any more police. It's a fairly safe bet that all manner of high- tech gadgetry will be employed to find exactly where he is located within that residence, if he really is there.

I thought I heard they sent in robots.

re: #209 Cannadian Club Akbar

I thought I heard they sent in robots.

That would work. Send in the Terminator.

Hey Mornin' Lizards!

I've been gone since Thanksgiving. Anything exciting happen?

How are you-all and hope you had a good holiday.

There are so many disgusting angles concerning this Tacoma shooting, beyond the fact that he murdered four policemen.
The shooter is a well- known nutjob that's been on the loose for a long time and ignored, just like that nutjob at Ft. Hood, and the fact that Huckabee freed him from prison is even more disgusting.

re: #202 Cannadian Club Akbar

Here's a piece at Politico regarding the current Senate version of the bill from an MIT economist who used the CBO numbers:

MIT analysis backs Obama

A Christmas tune for all!

re: #209 Cannadian Club Akbar

I thought I heard they sent in robots.

Just one...

re: #210 Capitalist Tool

That would work. Send in the Terminator.

Robo Cop!

re: #213 Jeff In Ohio

Here's a piece at Politico regarding the current Senate version of the bill from an MIT economist who used the CBO numbers:

MIT analysis backs Obama

Well, DUH. We all knew they would "pay less for more", as the article so succinctly puts it. The problem we all have with it is, someone somewhere is going to have to pay MORE for LESS in order to make up for the imbalance.

re: #213 Jeff In Ohio

The guy was in Treasury under Clinton. Could be towing the line.

re: #216 ggt

Robo Cop!

1) Serve the Public Trust

2) Protect the Innocent

3) Uphold the Law

re: #212 Capitalist Tool

The chain of causality that ended with the murder of four police officers begins with Huckabee, but doesn't stop there. Arkansas and Washington officials are on the hook as well; they granted him parole in a separate case from the Huckabee clemency, and just this month Washington granted Clemmons bail in a child rape case, even as other criminal charges were pending including an assault on a cop.

One of the reports indicated that he was given bail and required to wear a GPS ankle bracelet but police found the bracelet at his wife's house.

Clemmons was a one-man crime spree, and anyone looking at the case should never have allowed him bail. Even the Washington DOC said that he was a risk of being a repeat offender. Why take the chance?

re: #214 MandyManners

A Christmas tune for all!

[Video]

Oh, yeah. NSFW but I figured you'd understand that the moment the video came on.

re: #218 Cannadian Club Akbar

Sure. The guy you linked to from Cato worked under Larry Craig.

I think left or right, your going to have trouble finding policy wonks who haven't worked for one side or the other.

re: #220 lawhawk

One of the reports indicated that he was given bail and required to wear a GPS ankle bracelet but police found the bracelet at his wife's house.

Aren't those bracelets monitored 24/7?

re: #222 Jeff In Ohio

Sure. The guy you linked to from Cato worked under Larry Craig.

I think left or right, your going to have trouble finding policy wonks who haven't worked for one side or the other.

I know. That's why I asked lizards about my link. But you can't give evryone health care and not raise taxes.

re: #217 thedopefishlives

Yes, duh. Indeed, duh.

re: #222 Jeff In Ohio

Sure. The guy you linked to from Cato worked under Larry Craig.

I think left or right, your going to have trouble finding policy wonks who haven't worked for one side or the other.

Well, at least this MIT guy isn't the only one who approves of the Obama numbers according to politico:

Gruber was among the 23 Ph.D. economists who sent a letter to Obama on Nov. 17 endorsing his approach to health-care reform. Read the economists’ four-page letter here.

re: #223 MandyManners

Not quite sure how they're supposed to be monitored. I would think that they've got a sensor on them to let authorities know if someone has tampered with them. We'll have to see what comes of that.

re: #222 Jeff In Ohio

Sure. The guy you linked to from Cato worked under Larry Craig.

I think left or right, your going to have trouble finding policy wonks who haven't worked for one side or the other.

I'll refrain.

re: #222 Jeff In Ohio

Sure. The guy you linked to from Cato worked under Larry Craig.

I think left or right, your going to have trouble finding policy wonks who haven't worked for one side or the other.

Anyone that knows anything is going to be connected somehow. How else are they going to learn anything?

IMHO, the information has become so specialized that the average citizen has a hard time figuring anything out.

re: #224 Cannadian Club Akbar

No disagreement there.

re: #227 lawhawk

Not quite sure how they're supposed to be monitored. I would think that they've got a sensor on them to let authorities know if someone has tampered with them. We'll have to see what comes of that.

If he was wearing it, I wonder if that program will stop. That'd be a shame for non-violent offenders.

Bail for child rapists? After how many convictions, how much violence? That bail judge needs to resign. Each and every weak link in the chain needs to be addressed. Putting a stop to foolish bail, foolish clemency is critical to public safety. I'm all for bail for the non violent, the first time offender. The housewife DUI. The middle manager with cocaine.

But those who have allegedly violated a child? Unless it is the weakest case or an alibi looks very possible- No bail.

Any DA's or ex judges in the house this morning? How does this happen?
LAWHAWK?

re: #229 ggt

Anyone that knows anything is going to be connected somehow. How else are they going to learn anything?

IMHO, the information has become so specialized that the average citizen has a hard time figuring anything out.

I wonder if that's purposeful. Just look at the language in most statutes, case law and administrative regs.

re: #232 Rightwingconspirator

Bail for child rapists? After how many convictions, how much violence? That bail judge needs to resign. Each and every weak link in the chain needs to be addressed. Putting a stop to foolish bail, foolish clemency is critical to public safety. I'm all for bail for the non violent, the first time offender. The housewife DUI. The middle manager with cocaine.

But those who have allegedly violated a child? Unless it is the weakest case or an alibi looks very possible- No bail.

Any DA's or ex judges in the house this morning? How does this happen?
LAWHAWK?

The whole thing pisses-me off. I think the crime is so horrific that something primal in good people just can't believe it's real. So the perpetrators play on this and get away with it over and over.

re: #233 MandyManners

I wonder if that's purposeful. Just look at the language in most statutes, case law and administrative regs.

I was really referring regarding Math and Science information in this case, the climate-change data. Only the people involved in the research can really understand it. We have to trust them.

agh!

re: #234 ggt

That makes sense for the average joe, or a rookie DA. Not experienced judges. I am angry too, and that's after a nights sleep on it.

Somali Pirates again?

re: #235 ggt

I was really referring regarding Math and Science information in this case, the climate-change data. Only the people involved in the research can really understand it. We have to trust them.

agh!

I thought this discussion was about health care "reform". But, yes, the climate debate brings to it special concerns about the math and science.

Most convicts don't have 15K sitting around for bail money.

BBL
Redline time.

re: #238 MandyManners

I thought this discussion was about health care "reform". But, yes, the climate debate brings to it special concerns about the math and science.

Health care too--the economics is complex.

re: #232 Rightwingconspirator

I'm not sure how or why this happened. I can only speculate.

It's not like the Washington DOC didn't know this guy's history - they knew he was a risk to offend again. Did the local prosecutor know? Did the judge that ruled know?

If the prosecutor didn't know, it is conceivable that was the reason for bail being set, rather than holding him pending trial. Also, it's possible that the bail was set at $150,000 figuring that Clemmons wouldn't be able to make bail, and he somehow managed to do so.

It's real early to figure out why he was granted bail in this case. All we do know is that but for Huckabee's clemency, Clemmons would have been in an Arkansas prison and wouldn't have been able to carry out multiple crimes since his release.

re: #239 Cannadian Club Akbar

Most convicts don't have 15K sitting around for bail money.

Relatives have a house to put up? Besides, isn't it 10 per cent of the bail that is put up, with the bondsman guaranteeing the rest?

re: #239 Cannadian Club Akbar

Clemmons had run some kind of a business, so it's possible he was able to use it as collateral to put up his portion of the $150,000 bail - $15,000.

" Pirates now hold about a dozen vessels hostage and more than 200 crew members. The Maran Centaurus had 28 crew aboard - 16 Filipinos, nine Greeks, two Ukrainians and one Romanian, Harbour said."

WTF?

re: #243 MandyManners

Relatives have a house to put up? Besides, isn't it 10 per cent of the bail that is put up, with the bondsman guaranteeing the rest?

I think so. And putting up 10%, you don't get it back after going to court.

For a change of pace, a view of Custer State Park and some of its herd of bison.

re: #244 lawhawk

Clemmons had run some kind of a business, so it's possible he was able to use it as collateral to put up his portion of the $150,000 bail - $15,000.

It was $150,000.00?

re: #245 ggt

" Pirates now hold about a dozen vessels hostage and more than 200 crew members. The Maran Centaurus had 28 crew aboard - 16 Filipinos, nine Greeks, two Ukrainians and one Romanian, Harbour said."

WTF?

Piracy is one of those things where I don't understand how they get away with it. Exactly how "bad" would it be to issue a standing order to the Navy that pirates are to be fired upon on sight and just let the big guns take care of the rest?

re: #239 Cannadian Club Akbar

Most convicts don't have 15K sitting around for bail money.

A relative who owns a house can come up with 15K (home equity loan) in very short order.

Now I'm all pissed-off at the Supreme Court for that recent ruling on Child rape cases.

We need to change the legal status of child rape --to put in parr with Murder.

re: #248 MandyManners

It was $150,000.00?

Yes.

re: #250 sattv4u2

A relative who owns a house can come up with 15K (home equity loan) in very short order.

Who would do such a thing for a multiple offender?

re: #249 thedopefishlives

Piracy is one of those things where I don't understand how they get away with it. Exactly how "bad" would it be to issue a standing order to the Navy that pirates are to be fired upon on sight and just let the big guns take care of the rest?

Part of me wants to suggest just sinking this ship. The draw-back is that that would kill the innocent crew.

Morning folks. Pretty eventful weekend for a holiday.