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I'd vote for a zombie JKF, for example, over anything living today.
Me too. I wish we had better candidates. The ones we have just suck for the most part. Mitt Romney is the best of the lot in either party and he's only decent. Not good, just decent.
O.T. today "some" right wing blogs are talking about a terrorist dry run on a flight. They published the BS e-mail quoted at Snopes without fact checking what actually happened. Not near as exciting as it turns out.
Actually, killing zombies should be easy. All we have to do is throw some of the loons who attack LGF to the zombie hoard. The zombies who eat Pam Geller's brain will melt into a puddle of goo in minutes from the sheer quantity of Toxic Craziness.
Actually, killing zombies should be easy. All we have to do is throw some of the loons who attack LGF to the zombie hoard. The zombies who eat Pam Geller's brain will melt into a puddle of goo in minutes from the sheer quantity of Toxic Craziness.
Ronald Regan died with Alzheimer's disease. As someone who lives with family members with Alzheimers, I must say, I find the Zombie thing in bad taste.
I do wish "we" had a leader right now, with all of Regan's potential.
I don't see one on the horizon.
And, California's governor's race is looking sickly.
Jerry Brown, Meg Whitman, Carly Fiorini.
GAH!
The serious point to this satire is that every single GOP politician constantly invokes the name of Ronald Reagan, over and over and over.
The Onion took it to its absurd conclusion.
Which as someone in the 21-25 age bracket, is really frustrating. "I support Regan!", "I support Goldwater!". I've read plenty of quotes by both men, but I really don't know the context. Its a pet peeve I guess. You support goldwater? Great, now spell out what that means. Explain why its all relevant. Put it in the context of current issues.
I'm not trying to sound like a snot here either, although I'll probably come across as one.
But I wonder when it was most united. As united as humanly possible. Under what administration? Maybe I'm nuts but probably during WWII with FDR. What do you think?
And it won't happen again for an even longer while. The USA is simply to polarized now. I don't even talk about unity because it just can't happen. The two poles hate each other so much that if they didn't have something to fight about, they'd invent it.
Having to repay your friends after they bail you out of jail...expensive.
I don't know what it is about ouzo, I love it, but for me it means trouble. I get waaay too much energy, as well as plenty drunk.
Is is just me or does anyone everyone else out there get an odd pleasure clicking the ads for the creationists, knowing that the clicks they are paying for are helping charles keep the site running.
But I wonder when it was most united. As united as humanly possible. Under what administration? Maybe I'm nuts but probably during WWII with FDR. What do you think?
I'd agree with that. But that was only possible due to the extraordinary circumstances. In peacetime, America will always have clear divisions. We're too diverse not to.
But I wonder when it was most united. As united as humanly possible. Under what administration? Maybe I'm nuts but probably during WWII with FDR. What do you think?
I would tend to agree with you. Depression followed by a world war. I know today's ranting rightists will tell you everything bad and social-like started under FDR, but all my old relatives had a different story to tell, whether they were conservatives or liberals or downright socialists.
I would tend to agree with you. Depression followed by a world war. I know today's ranting rightists will tell you everything bad and social-like started under FDR, but all my old relatives had a different story to tell, whether they were conservatives or liberals or downright socialists.
Zombie FDR for President!
I know today's ranting rightists will tell you everything bad and social-like started under FDR,
How they do run on! (as Scarlett O'Hara might say)
Yes, my old relatives also had a different story to tell.
It has to be said, Reagan Redux certainly sounds more convincing than the miserable wretches pretending to lead the GOP, while actually cringing before the tea-bagging kookathon. I am surprised though that you guys haven't yet acknowledged that Romney has been undead for years. Let's face it - the living Romney supported gay marriage and state-run healthcare. Only after becoming a zombie did he magically flip to the latest lunatic right-wing talking-points. Don't even get me started on just what sort of undead creature now inhabits the trousers of Giuliani!
I would tend to agree with you. Depression followed by a world war. I know today's ranting rightists will tell you everything bad and social-like started under FDR, but all my old relatives had a different story to tell, whether they were conservatives or liberals or downright socialists.
True. Nixon's idea for a national minimum income would be branded as Marxist at best. And Eisenhower would be labeled a Troskyite considering the graduated tax rate that existed under his presidency.
So, where DO we go from here?
Besides a third party,
not a viable option IMHO.
Where DO we get some good, OK, I'll settle for decent leaders?
I got nothing here, locally, nor at the state level.
Beats me, even if any show up right now the tea party express will try to purge them for not being "conservative" (So-con) enough. Nothing good can happen until the hysteria dies down a little, I guess we can hope that people get bored of the mindless hate and manufactured drama someday soon???
Hey kids, anybody else having problems logging onto Right Wing Watch? A few months ago Charles linked to it and I regularly enjoyed its content. But it's been unresponsive for over a month now. Were they hacked? Did they leave Dodge? It was a very good source for fringe news. Now, no matter where I check it from, it seems not to work. Any thoughts?
Hey kids, anybody else having problems logging onto Right Wing Watch? A few months ago Charles linked to it and I regularly enjoyed its content. But it's been unresponsive for over a month now. Were they hacked? Did they leave Dodge? It was a very good source for fringe news. Now, no matter where I check it from, it seems not to work. Any thoughts?
I sorta doubt Palin and Beck would be guests of the Opie and Anthony show.
They should be treated like that everywhere they go. The problem is that people tolerate their nonsense. I see no reason to be polite to lunatics. It only enables their nuttiness.
This reminds me of a post I read on someone's blog a while back. The blogger suggested that we should dig up Reagan's body, elect the body president, and prop it up in the oval office.
The world would think that we're so damned crazy that no one would ever mess with America again.
Hey kids, anybody else having problems logging onto Right Wing Watch? A few months ago Charles linked to it and I regularly enjoyed its content. But it's been unresponsive for over a month now. Were they hacked? Did they leave Dodge? It was a very good source for fringe news. Now, no matter where I check it from, it seems not to work. Any thoughts?
I'm getting there. Here's a cool website that I use to to check my sites when I'm having trouble...
They should be treated like that everywhere they go. The problem is that people tolerate their nonsense. I see no reason to be polite to lunatics. It only enables their nuttiness.
Ya, but it can be funny. Jesse was on Stern today too and he took the opposite approach. He just let him spout off all his theories and dig his own hole. Eventually he got to how the HAARP project resonates at the same frequency as the human brain, is used to control us all, and also causes global warming.
They should be treated like that everywhere they go. The problem is that people tolerate their nonsense. I see no reason to be polite to lunatics. It only enables their nuttiness.
When the lunatics are multi-millionaires and insulated from any actual discourse... it's sorta like rock stars. They have enough power to surround themselves with people who won't say no to them, who'll feed them cocaine and hookers and wahetever else they desire. And if you have that power and you desire ideology, it'll be fed to you by everyone around you whose career depends on your happiness.
Keith Olbermann is not on the level of Glenn Beck or Malkin. Keith Olbermann is not a bigot. False Equivalency Warning! Danger, Will Robinson!
I do not agree. Olbermann harbors a rabid hatred for anything conservative and he attacks without ever listening or learning. That makes him equivalent in my eyes.
Ya, but it can be funny. Jesse was on Stern today too and he took the opposite approach. He just let him spout off all his theories and dig his own hole. Eventually he got to how the HAARP project resonates at the same frequency as the human brain, is used to control us all, and also causes global warming.
O&A run a good show, but essentially they're just loudmouths behind a mic. Stern is the master of the format.
Keith Olbermann is not on the level of Glenn Beck or Malkin. Keith Olbermann is not a bigot. False Equivalency Warning! Danger, Will Robinson!
Olbermann is a hack sportscaster who now thinks he is Ed Murrow. I doubt he believes most of what he says because I doubt he really understands it. He is all about sensationalism and drama. Kind of like O'Reilly, but a bit more extreme.
We are deeply dismayed by your ongoing use of the Nazi "Sieg Heil" salute, both on your program and in public appearances -- including the recent Television Critics Association press tour -- while holding up a mask of Fox News commentator Bill O'Reilly.
Pretty much the same shit Glenn Beck is doing now.
I do not agree. Olbermann harbors a rabid hatred for anything conservative and he attacks without ever listening or learning. That makes him equivalent in my eyes.
Uh, A) he's a liberal and B) his show depends on attacking? Find me the Olbermann equivalent of elevating Bircher rhetoric ala Beck. Of Rockefeller conspiracy theories. Of paranoid dog-whistle fantasies about the president being treasonous and racist. You can't. There is no equivalency. None.
Beck is a dangerous force in this country. Olbermann is more like a shock jock for liberals. He took his snark from Sportscenter and applied it to politics. Olbermann isn't going to convince someone to take up arms against the country. Beck is heading in that direction.
Olbermann is a hack sportscaster who now thinks he is Ed Murrow. I doubt he believes most of what he says because I doubt he really understands it. He is all about sensationalism and drama. Kind of like O'Reilly, but a bit more extreme.
This is an honest and clear-eyed appraisal. I don't agree with all of it (I believe he understands exactly what he says and believes it, he's a very smart person) but it's not playing the false equivalency game.
I don't believe he's any more extreme than O'Reilly, I believe they're peas in a pod. O'Reilly isn't dangerous the way Beck is, he's just a loudmouth. So's Olbermann.
President Barack Obama's approval rating may be hovering in the 50 percent range, but that doesn't mean America's Commander-in-Chief isn’t catching on with new constituents.
There is now a line of Ecstasy pills made in the image of the 44th president of the United States, according to Texas police who have snatched a batch off the streets.
This is an honest and clear-eyed appraisal. I don't agree with all of it (I believe he understands exactly what he says and believes it, he's a very smart person) but it's not playing the false equivalency game.
I don't believe he's any more extreme than O'Reilly, I believe they're peas in a pod. O'Reilly isn't dangerous the way Beck is, he's just a loudmouth. So's Olbermann.
Pretty much the same shit Glenn Beck is doing now.
Oh, it'a dick move. But it's a stunt. Like a radio stunt. Holding up a mask and shouting Seig heil (I remember David Bowie once did about the same thing, also as a stunt) is not the same thing as seriously elevating paranoid conspiracy theories.
Nobody would ever seriously believe that O'Reilly is Hitler, or a Nazi, or anything. It's a feud between two hosts, we've seen this stuff for years and years on talk radio. Thus, Olbermann's actions are distasteful and nasty. But they're not dangerous. The things Beck says, they'r becomig dangerous.
This is an honest and clear-eyed appraisal. I don't agree with all of it (I believe he understands exactly what he says and believes it, he's a very smart person) but it's not playing the false equivalency game.
I don't believe he's any more extreme than O'Reilly, I believe they're peas in a pod. O'Reilly isn't dangerous the way Beck is, he's just a loudmouth. So's Olbermann.
I don't think Olbermann is particularly smart. Nor is O'Reilly. They're not dumb, but they are not deep thinkers. Both play to the basest instincts of their respective audiences. Maybe I categorize Olbermann as more extreme because I disagree with him on almost everything, while not so much with O'Reilly. Olbermann likes to bandy about big words, but that just tells me he knows how to use a thesaurus. It comes across as pretentious ass-hattery to me.
Bullshit. Glenn Beck is slightly more crazy than Kieth Olberman. Glenn Beck's rhetoric is more dangerous because he's appealing to a more violent and well armed audience but it's essentially the same bullshit. Being slightly more sane than Glenn Beck is nothing to be proud of.
There is a Dan Rather Grouch Muppet, but where is the throbbing memo? Why is Grouch News Network ignoring LGF? And... more troubling yet-
Why does Sesame Street hate Charles?
Sesame Street has always been a organ of the Crypto-Soviet Communist Appartchik Undergound Brainwashing Educational Trust. Ernie and Bert were blackballed for years during the McCarthy years.
Bullshit. Glenn Beck is slightly more crazy than Kieth Olberman. Glenn Beck's rhetoric is more dangerous because he's appealing to a more violent and well armed audience but it's essentially the same bullshit. Being slightly more sane than Glenn Beck is nothing to be proud of.
Agreed. It's like saying that the Bears are better than the St. Louis Rams this year. It's true, but its not saying much.
I don't think Olbermann is particularly smart. Nor is O'Reilly. They're not dumb, but they are not deep thinkers. Both play to the basest instincts of their respective audiences. Maybe I categorize Olbermann as more extreme because I disagree with him on almost everything, while not so much with O'Reilly. Olbermann likes to bandy about big words, but that just tells me he knows how to use a thesaurus. It comes across as pretentious ass-hattery to me.
Someone can actually be both smart and be pretentious. Is Olbermann some cosmic intelligence? No, but he's smart. And dumb people cannot sound smart with a thesaurus. I've seen them try. ;-)
Also, full disclosure, I tend to agree with some of Olbermann's positions, they hit a little close to home for me. Your mileage may...perhaps vary.
Considering the link you provided, I would say that Olby is dead on with that issue. As I said, I don't think he is dumb, just shallow. Kinda the way I fell about Obama. He is certainly a bright guy in many ways, but I still feel like he is an empty suit and in way over his head.
I actually really enjoyed that clip. How can anyone be angry with a Muppet?
They can't unless they take themselves too seriously. Fortunately, Bill O'Reilly was able to have fun with Sesame Street's little joke and made himself look like a good sport. A good, harmless time was had by all.
Bullshit. Glenn Beck is slightly more crazy than Kieth Olberman. Glenn Beck's rhetoric is more dangerous because he's appealing to a more violent and well armed audience but it's essentially the same bullshit. Being slightly more sane than Glenn Beck is nothing to be proud of.
I don't really think it's the same bullshit, I think Olbermann and O'Reilly are on one level, sort of wanky loudmouth type-A personalities who love a soapbox and who like the sound of their own voices. Both are essentially not dangerous.
And Beck is on a danger level above both those guys. I don't consider Beck's sedition dog-whistles to be equivalent to anything Olbermann has said, just like I don't believe Code Pink is equivalent to Birchers. I could see Moore being on the same level as Beck, at least in intensity of wacko rhetoric. But not Olbermann.
I will reiterate what I've always said: cable news sucks, and is bad for you. All of it. But comparing Beck to Olbermann, it diminishes the seriousness of the influence Beck wields.
Like the clip. Agreed. And I say this as an evangelical. But I'm not typical by any means. I wish I were. But of course, everyone does. Equal rights means equal rights.
Oh, it'a dick move. But it's a stunt. Like a radio stunt. Holding up a mask and shouting Seig heil (I remember David Bowie once did about the same thing, also as a stunt) is not the same thing as seriously elevating paranoid conspiracy theories.
Nobody would ever seriously believe that O'Reilly is Hitler, or a Nazi, or anything. It's a feud between two hosts, we've seen this stuff for years and years on talk radio. Thus, Olbermann's actions are distasteful and nasty. But they're not dangerous. The things Beck says, they'r becomig dangerous.
You do realize that this is precisely the sort of excuse offered for Beck by his supporters? "But he's only entertaining; he doesn't mean that seriously..."
"The serious point to this satire is that every single GOP politician constantly invokes the name of Ronald Reagan, over and over and over.
The Onion took it to its absurd conclusion."
I think the point some politicians are trying to make is that they agree with Reagan's version of what being a conservative is. Too often people lump the "right" and the "left" in simplistic packages. That would put the political philosophies of, let's say, Jerry Falwell and William F Buckley in the same camp. George Bush was not a fiscal conservative. The GOP is moving to (or claiming to) a model that reflects what Reagan believed. If sincere, it's a good move.
IMO Beck is in a (nut) class of his own. However, this is arguable. The most important point made here, in my mind, is is that 'liberals' are unlikely to form militias.
The saddest and most annoying thing is that reasonable discourse from conservatives (like that seen here) -- seems as rare as hen's teeth.
Me too. I wish we had better candidates. The ones we have just suck for the most part. Mitt Romney is the best of the lot in either party and he's only decent. Not good, just decent.
Maybe that is enough? Maybe that is where we are missing the boat? We as the electorate? We don't pick decent people. Not to say Obama isn't a decent man but his experience was almost nothing next to a Mitt Romney?
I think that when I first embraced the GOP in college it was the stuff I read from Goldwater that actually closed the deal. I grew up during Reagan's terms, so he was a little too close for me to feel anything adult about, but Goldwater made sense.
The sad part about the whole Goldwater thing is that right when I was saying, "If the GOP believes this, they might be worth support," the GOP was beginning its multi-year betrayal of everything AuH20 stood for.
I'd be interested to hear actual comments from Beck listeners verifying that they *don't* believe the conspiracies, ranting, and leaving-the-C-out-of-words-that-have-them that Beck dumps on his audience ("Who's on the other end of the blackberry" comes to mind). You think all of Beck's audience heard that and said, "Ah, he's just kidding"?
In short: Olberman's viewers will tell you Olbie's kidding. Beck's viewers will tell you Beck's the only one telling the truth.
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