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1 Sharmuta  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 8:39:14pm

I love this song! Thanks for the tunes, Charles.

2 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 8:43:53pm
3 Bagua  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 8:45:56pm

re: #247 Bagua

Re-post for those who missed it.

Charles Johnson of LGF on the on the Alan Colmes show!

(special thanks to the Beekiller)

4 Pawn of the Oppressor  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 8:48:55pm

Charles sounds a bit like my old drawing teacher in college - a bit more mellow and laid-back than I expected.

I really can’t understand why stalker types get angry about what’s posted here. I guess honesty is a scary thing.

5 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 8:52:01pm

re: #4 Pawn of the Oppressor

Charles sounds a bit like my old drawing teacher in college - a bit more mellow and laid-back than I expected.

I really can’t understand why stalker types get angry about what’s posted here. I guess honesty is a scary thing.

I sounded a little like an Ozark hillbilly transplanted to the West Texas plains by way of Cornell; because that’s exactly who I am.

6 swamprat  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 8:54:18pm

You could open registration; but that would be wrong!

7 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 8:54:57pm
8 Sharmuta  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 8:55:00pm

I love the line-

They’ve never gone this long without a kill before…

9 swamprat  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 8:56:09pm

re: #6 swamprat


!

10 Four More Tears  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 8:56:15pm

re: #4 Pawn of the Oppressor


I really can’t understand why stalker types get angry about what’s posted here. I guess honesty is a scary thing.

I think the stalker-types once had invested trust in Charles. You’ll feel more anger towards someone you once liked than someone you never did.

11 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 8:57:22pm

re: #10 JasonA

I think the stalker-types once had invested trust in Charles. You’ll feel more anger towards someone you once liked than someone you never did.

That’s why divorce attorneys ain’t broke.

12 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 8:58:09pm

Free Republic’s purge of evolutionists is a pretty good indication of just how far this cancer of superstition has progressed on the right.
Creationism has dominated at FR for many years, of course, but there was always a sizable contingent of pro-science types (mostly old line Goldwater conservatives) who were willing to mix it up with the creos and who usually gave as good as they got. No more, though. The purge at the top conservative site is a good indication that anti-science is now sacrosanct dogma on what passes for the right.

13 Four More Tears  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 8:58:14pm

re: #11 MandyManners

That’s why divorce attorneys ain’t broke.

Eggzactly.

14 Bagua  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 8:58:41pm

And now, we return to our regularly scheduled program: Bagua’s Music Break™

It is Friday evening with our host’s triumphant holiday interview in the bag, the stalkers in a frumious frenzy and the lizards resplendent.

Time to kick back, let your hair down and…

Tek Wine

15 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 8:59:06pm

re: #10 JasonA

No, they had fantasies about who Charles is, and what he stands for, all projections from their minds.
And he is himself, not their projections.
That’s my 2 cents.

16 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 8:59:37pm

re: #13 JasonA

Eggzactly.

Better a divorce than a death.

17 austin_blue  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:01:54pm

Nice interview. No bomb throwing, Gotcha! questions, or drama.

18 What, me worry?  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:03:45pm

re: #4 Pawn of the Oppressor

Charles sounds a bit like my old drawing teacher in college - a bit more mellow and laid-back than I expected.

I really can’t understand why stalker types get angry about what’s posted here. I guess honesty is a scary thing.

It’s not about honesty, truth or lies, right or wrong. It’s about hating someone(s). On the bright side, except for the occasional mention, they aren’t an interesting topic over this way. Pitiful I suppose. Particularly during the season of good cheer and neighborly love.

19 Sharmuta  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:03:52pm

Here’s the John Mayer Trio

20 Sharmuta  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:04:29pm

re: #19 Sharmuta

OK- I’ll admit it. I lover the drummer’s hat in that video.

21 Racer X  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:05:13pm

Rush - XYZ

Performed by an 11 year old girl on keyboards!

22 Bob Dillon  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:05:25pm

re: #17 austin_blue

Nice interview. No bomb throwing, Gotcha! questions, or drama.

Yeah - and I join in with others on the last thread and a new respect for Mr. Colmes.

23 Bloodnok  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:05:52pm

re: #20 Sharmuta

OK- I’ll admit it. I lover the drummer’s hat in that video.

I lovered your typo. :p

24 Charles Johnson  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:06:10pm

Well, I just listened to it, and while I still hate the sound of my own voice, I think it was one of the better radio interviews I’ve done, if I say so myself.

John Mayer does Tom Petty — this one is really great.

25 What, me worry?  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:07:06pm

re: #21 Racer X

Rush - XYZ


Performed by an 11 year old girl on keyboards!

Well that’s quite amazing.

26 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:07:17pm
27 jaunte  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:08:55pm

Mayer is performing in Houston in the spring, but I’m torn between spending the ticket money for a single performance or just buying all his cds.

28 Gus  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:09:08pm

re: #12 Shiplord Kirel

Free Republic’s purge of evolutionists is a pretty good indication of just how far this cancer of superstition has progressed on the right.
Creationism has dominated at FR for many years, of course, but there was always a sizable contingent of pro-science types (mostly old line Goldwater conservatives) who were willing to mix it up with the creos and who usually gave as good as they got. No more, though. The purge at the top conservative site is a good indication that anti-science is now sacrosanct dogma on what passes for the right.

The revanchist movement of which Free Republic is a part is evolving into a movement keen on regressing towards the rejection of science and sociology towards with ideas that was once held be less educated masses dating back to the 19th century. Sometimes they reflect ideas and attitudes date past the 19th century.

Jim Robinson has proven himself to be an unstable personality in the past. As time goes by he will only become more unstable with the coinciding revanchist, anti-science, and other extremist movements. They should consider renaming it Banana Republic.

29 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:09:29pm

re: #27 jaunte

Mayer is performing in Houston in the spring, but I’m torn between spending the ticket money for a single performance or just buying all his cds.

I hope your “Santa” is reading!

30 jaunte  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:11:13pm

re: #29 Floral Giraffe
I hope so; but at some point, everybody’s got to be their own Santa!

31 austin_blue  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:12:30pm

re: #30 jaunte

I hope so; but at some point, everybody’s got to be their own Santa!

Great rotating title.

32 Bob Dillon  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:13:20pm

re: #24 Charles

Well, I just listened to it, and while I still hate the sound of my own voice, I think it was one of the better radio interviews I’ve done, if I say so myself.

John Mayer does Tom Petty — this one is really great.


[Video]

Didn’t recognize your voice at first - and I had listened to other interviews you had done. A bit nasal tonight.

But - damn fine job. Gets better with every listening.

33 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:13:43pm

re: #29 Floral Giraffe

I hope your “Santa” is reading!

Santa doesn’t like the naughty.

34 Gus  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:16:38pm

New conspiracy! Oil companies are behind bad MapQuest directions!

//

Some guy just called this in to the Alan Colmes show.

35 Four More Tears  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:17:27pm

Here’s a really nice cover of Fields of Gold from the late Eva Cassidy.

36 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:18:44pm

re: #35 JasonA

Here’s a really nice cover of Fields of Gold from the late Eva Cassidy.



It wouldn’t play for me.

37 jaunte  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:19:34pm

re: #34 Gus 802

Some people really can’t admit they got lost.

38 Bagua  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:19:46pm

Love me now , or hate me more, still gonna lead- Beenie Man

39 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:19:52pm

re: #33 MandyManners

I think I’d rather have a lump of coal in my stocking…

40 Four More Tears  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:19:52pm

re: #36 MandyManners

It wouldn’t play for me.

Hrm. Me neither.

41 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:20:49pm

re: #39 Floral Giraffe

I think I’d rather have a lump of coal in my stocking…

And, a big bundle of sticks!

42 Gus  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:21:14pm

re: #37 jaunte

Some people really can’t admit they got lost.

Yeah, and they’ll stay lost because they refuse to ask for directions.

43 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:22:33pm

re: #40 JasonA

Hrm. Me neither.



Oh.

Thank you, JasonA.

44 Political Atheist  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:22:53pm

Bagua said resplendent. Yes indeed. If I may please submit for your pleasure a song called lost, by Crossed Keys of Hacienda Heights. I know these people well as they let me in all their shows with my camera. Jaimis, the lady lead singer makes the hair on my neck stand up when I hear her voice.

Click on the song Lost, but any will do.
[Link: www.myspace.com…]

45 jaunte  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:22:54pm

re: #42 Gus 802

Whaddaya mean? I was just exploring.

46 What, me worry?  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:23:08pm

re: #34 Gus 802

New conspiracy! Oil companies are behind bad MapQuest directions!

//

Some guy just called this in to the Alan Colmes show.

Well someone has to be don’t they? Worst directions ever.

Try Google Maps.

47 brookly red  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:23:15pm

re: #42 Gus 802

Yeah, and they’ll stay lost because they refuse to ask for directions.

these days asking for directions has it’s own risks.

48 reine.de.tout  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:23:32pm

re: #34 Gus 802

New conspiracy! Oil companies are behind bad MapQuest directions!

//

Some guy just called this in to the Alan Colmes show.


Interesting.
Were some of the stalker folks in line waiting to put in their .02 about Charles? Maybe the subject changed and that’s the best they could come up with.
/

49 Four More Tears  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:23:43pm

Oh, those American Muslims who were arrested in Pakistan for trying to become jihadis?

EPIC FAIL.

they were turned away because they couldn’t speak Urdu, seemed to have a limited grasp of Islam and didn’t have any “references” from trusted sources, such as other militants or sympathetic imams, the official said.

50 Four More Tears  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:24:20pm

re: #43 MandyManners

You’re most welcome.

51 Gus  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:24:26pm

re: #48 reine.de.tout

Interesting.
Were some of the stalker folks in line waiting to put in their .02 about Charles? Maybe the subject changed and that’s the best they could come up with.
/

That’s funny. I was thinking along the same lines. The stalkers were waiting so long they’re all tanked up and forgot what they were going to say.

52 Bob Dillon  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:24:58pm

re: #42 Gus 802

Yeah, and they’ll stay lost because they refuse to ask for directions.

One thing you can count on from the Oil Cos.

Precision locations.

53 reine.de.tout  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:25:18pm

re: #51 Gus 802

That’s funny. I was thinking along the same lines. The stalkers were waiting so long they’re all tanked up and forgot what they were going to say.

Well, there ya go!
Mapquest maps conspiracy solved.

54 Mich-again  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:25:22pm

Wow. Great song. I had no idea.

55 simoom  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:26:04pm

I tried encoding as Xvid video this time and it mostly looks fine now, so here’s the fixed YouTube version of Charles’ interview.

Part I:

Part II:

56 Racer X  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:26:09pm

re: #49 JasonA

Oh, those American Muslims who were arrested in Pakistan for trying to become jihadis?

EPIC FAIL.

Arrested due to a tip from the FBI.

Heh.

57 Mich-again  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:26:47pm

re: #49 JasonA

they were turned away because they couldn’t speak Urdu, seemed to have a limited grasp of Islam and didn’t have any “references” from trusted sources, such as other militants or sympathetic imams, the official said.

How do you say..”Yer not from around here are ya?” in Urdu?

58 Bagua  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:27:16pm

re: #40 JasonA

A for effort.

“Those who dare to fail miserably can achieve greatly. -JFK

59 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:27:23pm

re: #50 JasonA

You’re most welcome.

*smooch*

60 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:27:42pm

re: #5 Shiplord Kirel

You were great Shiplord! Tonight was so much fun!

61 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:27:55pm

re: #48 reine.de.tout

Interesting.
Were some of the stalker folks in line waiting to put in their .02 about Charles? Maybe the subject changed and that’s the best they could come up with.
/

One guy came on and complained about the gummint requiring him to take a drug test to keep his job. Alan asked him what he did. He said he drove a chemical tanker truck. Duh! (Alan cut him off).

62 austin_blue  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:28:04pm

re: #57 Mich-again

How do you say..”Yer not from around here are ya?” in Urdu?

Bang, bang.

63 brookly red  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:28:24pm

re: #49 JasonA

Oh, those American Muslims who were arrested in Pakistan for trying to become jihadis?

EPIC FAIL.

the bad news is the that the bad guys are not desperate, & can afford to be selective…

64 Gus  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:28:33pm

re: #47 brookly red

these days asking for directions has it’s own risks.

True in some locales. Best bet then is to stop at a gas station or a store.

65 Racer X  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:28:51pm

re: #61 Shiplord Kirel

One guy came on and complained about the gummint requiring him to take a drug test to keep his job. Alan asked him what he did. He said he drove a chemical tanker truck. Duh! (Alan cut him off).

He was getting ready to ask how come welfare recipients don’t have to pee in a cup.

66 Four More Tears  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:29:01pm

re: #56 Racer X

Arrested due to a tip from the FBI.

Heh.

Seriously. This story is starting to sound like a Pauly Shore movie.

67 Political Atheist  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:30:00pm

re: #66 JasonA

May all our enemies be so foolish and weak.

68 brookly red  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:30:10pm

re: #64 Gus 802

True in some locales. Best bet then is to stop at a gas station or a store.

I didn’t mean in driving :)

69 Four More Tears  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:30:48pm

re: #67 Rightwingconspirator

May all our enemies be so foolish and weak.

So say we all.

70 Bagua  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:30:51pm

Star Wars Gangstar Rap

71 Racer X  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:31:02pm

re: #66 JasonA

Seriously. This story is starting to sound like a Pauly Shore movie.

I like the fact that the FBI let them travel all the way over there, then told the Pakistan authorities what they were up to.

Enjoy the Pakistan jail system bitches!

72 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:31:45pm

re: #24 Charles

You’re not alone Charles. We all hate the sound of our own voices. And once again, you did great.

73 Gus  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:32:28pm

re: #68 brookly red

I didn’t mean in driving :)

You mean like in how to bake a cake?

/

74 Bob Dillon  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:32:30pm

re: #57 Mich-again

How do you say..”Yer not from around here are ya?” in Urdu?

شما در این حوالی هست نه از شما هستند؟

Might have worked ;-)

75 Four More Tears  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:33:46pm

re: #71 Racer X

I like the fact that the FBI let them travel all the way over there, then told the Pakistan authorities what they were up to.

Enjoy the Pakistan jail system bitches!

I’m usually a soft-hearted, compassionate peace-nik, but these guys…? Fuck ‘em. No sympathy whatsoever.

76 Political Atheist  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:33:57pm

re: #74 Bobibutu

Is that bang bang?

77 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:34:04pm

Your text to link…Nobody’s leaving.

78 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:34:24pm

re: #60 Irenicum

You were great Shiplord! Tonight was so much fun!

Many thanks. The sadistic side of me wishes there had been time to get a few nuts and stalkers on, though. Colmes would have ripped them apart.

79 brookly red  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:34:53pm

re: #67 Rightwingconspirator

May all our enemies be so foolish and weak.

Unfortunately they are not. They can turn down our “home-grown wannabes” cause they have plenty of their own… these guys were not even useful as translators, messengers or mules. Not a good sign.

80 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:35:24pm

BAH.

81 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:35:29pm

re: #49 JasonA

Thank God for stupidity.

82 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:35:44pm

re: #80 MandyManners

BAH.

Humbug.

83 Bob Dillon  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:35:45pm

re: #76 Rightwingconspirator

Is that bang bang?

Bang bang? You got me.

84 Four More Tears  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:36:52pm

re: #78 Shiplord Kirel

Many thanks. The sadistic side of me wishes there had been time to get a few nuts and stalkers on, though. Colmes would have ripped them apart.

I dunno. I can’t remember that many instances of him standing up to Hannity effectively. Different dynamic, I suppose.

I have to echo the sentiment that you were good, Shiplord.

85 reine.de.tout  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:37:00pm

re: #78 Shiplord Kirel

Many thanks. The sadistic side of me wishes there had been time to get a few nuts and stalkers on, though. Colmes would have ripped them apart.

I think one got thru but was cut off.

86 Bagua  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:37:32pm

Sloppy Drunk Blues - Big Joe Williams

/don’t forget to tip the DJ

87 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:37:49pm

re: #74 Bobibutu

google translate?

88 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:39:06pm

re: #78 Shiplord Kirel

Yeah, it woulda been fun. It was surprisingly calm all things told.

89 Bob Dillon  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:39:31pm

re: #87 Irenicum

google translate?

Yes.

90 austin_blue  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:40:58pm

re: #89 Bobibutu

Yes.

Oh, dish!

91 Political Atheist  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:41:10pm

re: #86 Bagua

Perfect.

92 Bob Dillon  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:42:06pm

re: #78 Shiplord Kirel

Many thanks. The sadistic side of me wishes there had been time to get a few nuts and stalkers on, though. Colmes would have ripped them apart.

Same here - I wish there was more time and Chas could have roasted them as well.

93 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:42:14pm

re: #89 Bobibutu

I have mixed feelings about it. In some parts it works, but it’s still very clunky. I hope it improves and becomes more intuitive.

94 Four More Tears  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:42:20pm

re: #79 brookly red

There’s also the possibility that they’re that paranoid about welcoming outsiders.

95 austin_blue  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:42:25pm

re: #71 Racer X

I like the fact that the FBI let them travel all the way over there, then told the Pakistan authorities what they were up to.

Enjoy the Pakistan jail system bitches!

Word is, the Pakistanis will deport them back to the US.

96 Political Atheist  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:42:30pm

re: #86 Bagua


97 Bagua  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:43:07pm

Fine and Mellow - Billie Holiday (with interview)

98 Political Atheist  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:45:26pm

re: #97 Bagua

Wow. When was that recorded?

99 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:45:47pm

re: #90 austin_blue

google translate offers a multitude of langauges to translae from one to another. I’ve tested it out on a friend who’s sufficiently familiar with both English and Spanish. It gets the basic meaning across most of the time. But it’s not pretty in terms of syntax and grammar. Definitely room for improvement.

100 Four More Tears  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:45:49pm

re: #97 Bagua

Fine and Mellow - Billie Holiday (with interview)

Gah. I’m trying to avoid playing Fallout (which has been sucking the life from me lately). This ain’t helping.

101 brookly red  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:46:14pm

re: #94 JasonA

There’s also the possibility that they’re that paranoid about welcoming outsiders.

Same thing, they don’t need em… and for all we know these guys were CIA. Yes, it’s a strech but we really don’t know. We do however know where the group they went to is, & that may be worth something in a drone kinda way.

102 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:47:06pm

re: #97 Bagua

Now we’re talking! My love for Billie will never die.

103 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:48:21pm
104 Bob Dillon  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:48:42pm

re: #93 Irenicum

I have mixed feelings about it. In some parts it works, but it’s still very clunky. I hope it improves and becomes more intuitive.

Sure - and the new and evolving toys we have now never cease to astound me … Radio was the amazing entity when I was growing up and TV sets were still a few years down the road. The DC 6 was the commercial king of the sky.

105 Political Atheist  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:50:04pm

How does”Cut Off The Fringe” sound as a summation of Charles efforts tonight & lately?

106 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:51:08pm
107 Bagua  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:52:52pm

Southern Rag - Blind Blake

108 austin_blue  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:54:23pm

re: #105 Rightwingconspirator

How does”Cut Off The Fringe” sound as a summation of Charles efforts tonight & lately?

The nice thing is that the fringe is self-purging. They cut themselves off with the eventual flounce. I joined this site because it was anti-idiotarian, hoping that it would come back to the contentious center, which can happily contain sane members of the left and right. Disagreement is good, as long as it is respectful and honest.

109 Bagua  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:54:34pm

re: #102 Irenicum

Now we’re talking! My love for Billie will never die.

What a priceless quote from the immortal Billie Holiday at the beginning.

110 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:54:49pm

re: #104 Bobibutu

Sure - and the new and evolving toys we have now never cease to astound me … Radio was the amazing entity when I was growing up and TV sets were still a few years down the road. The DC 6 was the commercial king of the sky.

I once flew completely across the Pacific, Tokyo to San Francisco, in a DC-6. These planes were designed to fly on any two of their four engines, and for good reason. The R-2800 radial (for 2800 cubic inches) had 18 cylinders, 36 spark plugs, and a mass of reciprocating parts all stressed within an inch of their lives to produce 2400 horsepower, a remarkably high specific output for a very large engine even today. The upshot was that we changed one of them on Wake Island and another in Hawaii, finally reaching the west coast after 29 hours.

111 Bob Dillon  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:55:33pm

re: #105 Rightwingconspirator

How does”Cut Off The Fringe” sound as a summation of Charles efforts tonight & lately?

“Eloquently state your boundaries” might be another.

112 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:55:38pm

re: #104 Bobibutu

We do live in amazing times don’t we? I consider myself privileged to be alive now. I was born in 1964. I remember my grandfather, who was born in 1899, telling me stories. What he saw in terms of the changes was astounding. My life is no different. Simply amazing.

113 Jack Burton  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:55:41pm

Looks like Luap Nor was on Alex Jones show today. Anyone who still is laboring under the delusion that RP is not totally in kook conspiracy land should listen to this. They are going no holds bar on the Copenhagen is the beginning of the NWO takeover koolaid. He mentions revolution as well.

It’s also extremely apparent that neither RP or AJ know what the term “Global Governance” actually means and think it means “Global Government”.

From Wikipedia:

Global governance is not world government, and even less democratic globalization. In fact, global governance would not be necessary, were there a world government. Domestic governments have monopolies on the use of force—the power of enforcement. Global governance refers to the political interaction that is required to solve problems that affect more than one state or region when there is no power to enforce compliance. Problems arise, and networks of actors are constructed to deal with them in the absence of an international analogue to a domestic government. This system has been termed disaggregated sovereignty.

Here’s the video if you can stand it.

114 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:56:28pm

re: #109 Bagua

She was so broken and her songs reflected that. I think that’s why I love her so.

115 Bagua  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:57:50pm


St. Louis Blues - Blind Connie Williams


A classic treasure of American Bottleneck Blues.

116 Political Atheist  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 9:58:00pm

re: #106 MikeySDCA

Thanks. We will need the concept in the upcoming elections I think.
re: #108 austin_blue


That may be the social service the blog wars provide. The posts, comments and tweets are there to call them out on their racism or extremism. As hard as it is to delve into… Seeing the ugly is illustrative. Educational.

117 austin_blue  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:00:00pm

re: #116 Rightwingconspirator

Thanks. We will need the concept in the upcoming elections I think.
re: #108 austin_blue

That may be the social service the blog wars provide. The posts, comments and tweets are there to call them out on their racism or extremism. As hard as it is to delve into… Seeing the ugly is illustrative. Educational.

You may very well be right. I just don’t want to be forced to engage in their idiocy.

118 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:00:04pm

re: #107 Bagua

Great little piece. Classic blues.

119 Bob Dillon  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:01:10pm

re: #110 Shiplord Kirel

I once flew completely across the Pacific, Tokyo to San Francisco, in a DC-6. These planes were designed to fly on any two of their four engines, and for good reason. The R-2800 radial (for 2800 cubic inches) had 18 cylinders, 36 spark plugs, and a mass of reciprocating parts all stressed within an inch of their lives to produce 2400 horsepower, a remarkably high specific output for a very large engine even today The upshot was that we changed one of them on Wake Island and another in Hawaii, finally reaching the west coast after 29 hours.

Cooorimie! Best I did in a 6 was East to West coast in the 40s.

You have obvious profound knowledge of the aircraft industry (or the DC6 specifically) … care to elaborate?

120 Political Atheist  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:01:19pm

re: #111 Bobibutu

ummm, Sounds like that LordHighMockington guy.

121 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:02:14pm

re: #112 Irenicum

We do live in amazing times don’t we? I consider myself privileged to be alive now. I was born in 1964. I remember my grandfather, who was born in 1899, telling me stories. What he saw in terms of the changes was astounding. My life is no different. Simply amazing.

I go back to 1949. When I was a little guy in the 50s, we had a neighbor, a Mrs. R, who was in her 90s. She had been born in Washington DC in 1859 and could remember the sound of distant gunfire during the Civil War and especially seeing President Lincoln in person at his second inauguration. She was only 5 or 6 at the time but the memory was still vivid when she shared it with me more than 90 years later. She passed away in 1958 at the age of 99.

122 Political Atheist  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:02:33pm

re: #117 austin_blue

Observe yes, Engage no no no. Point out? Ooh yes.

123 Political Atheist  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:04:16pm

re: #115 Bagua

Did you take in any Crossed Keys?

124 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:05:05pm

re: #116 Rightwingconspirator

Good point. If anything, this past election cycle brought up to the surface what has laid dormant, but never really disappeared. Ugly truths need to be exposed for what they are.

125 Bob Dillon  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:05:08pm

re: #112 Irenicum

We do live in amazing times don’t we? I consider myself privileged to be alive now. I was born in 1964. I remember my grandfather, who was born in 1899, telling me stories. What he saw in terms of the changes was astounding. My life is no different. Simply amazing.

I was raised by my Grandmother - circa 1898 - Roger on the stories.

126 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:05:49pm

Just because it’s cool:

Man of constant sorrows

127 Political Atheist  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:06:41pm

re: #126 Irenicum

Hah! Best tonight.

128 austin_blue  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:07:37pm

re: #126 Irenicum

Just because it’s cool:

Man of constant sorrows


[Video]

That soundtrack is killer bee.

129 Bob Dillon  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:07:44pm

re: #120 Rightwingconspirator

ummm, Sounds like that LordHighMockington guy.

How so?

130 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:08:06pm

re: #127 Rightwingconspirator

Honestly, I just can’t sit still with this song. I wanna git up and do a jig!

131 Gus  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:08:27pm

re: #113 ArchangelMichael

Looks like Luap Nor was on Alex Jones show today. Anyone who still is laboring under the delusion that RP is not totally in kook conspiracy land should listen to this. They are going no holds bar on the Copenhagen is the beginning of the NWO takeover koolaid. He mentions revolution as well.

It’s also extremely apparent that neither RP or AJ know what the term “Global Governance” actually means and think it means “Global Government”.

From Wikipedia:

Here’s the video if you can stand it.


Crackpot liars. Here’s a copy of the draft document:

Draft Copenhagen climate change agreement, 8 Dec 2009

Doesn’t mention IMF, World Bank, air transportation and not one single word of tax.

132 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:09:26pm

re: #128 austin_blue

I bought it as soon as I could.

133 austin_blue  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:09:49pm

re: #131 Gus 802

Crackpot liars. Here’s a copy of the draft document:

Draft Copenhagen climate change agreement, 8 Dec 2009

Doesn’t mention IMF, World Bank, air transportation and not one single word of tax.

Well, yeah, but the Bilderbergers are obviously pulling the strings…

///

134 Gus  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:10:35pm

re: #133 austin_blue

Well, yeah, but the Bilderbergers are obviously pulling the strings…

///

It’s a copy of a redacted leak!

/

135 Gus  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:11:14pm
136 austin_blue  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:12:14pm

re: #134 Gus 802

It’s a copy of a redacted leak!

/

Dig ding ding! Now you’re with the program!

By the way, did you hear the Black Helicopters flown by UN crews over your house last night? No?

See?!?!?!?!?

137 Political Atheist  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:13:09pm

re: #129 Bobibutu

Maybe I have the blue collar version and yours works for the white collar demographic. “Eloquently” gave me the Lord High thing. Just my first impression.

138 Jack Burton  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:13:48pm

re: #131 Gus 802

Crackpot liars. Here’s a copy of the draft document:

Draft Copenhagen climate change agreement, 8 Dec 2009

Doesn’t mention IMF, World Bank, air transportation and not one single word of tax.

Facts have never stopped the Crazy Train.

139 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:15:15pm

re: #110 Shiplord Kirel

When I was a kid, in the early 1960’s, we flew to Grandma’s for the summer. If you were good & quiet, you could sit in with the pilots & watch. If you were REALLY quiet, they forgot you were there & you could stay most of the flight. I still treasure those memories.

140 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:15:22pm

re: #125 Bobibutu

I will always be grateful for my grandparents on my mother’s side. They were both born in West Virginia, in the hill country, yet moved to NYC during the depression. My grandpa was a railroad man and ended up working for the NYCTA till retirement. What a workhorse! He had a major surgery in the fifties and was able to use only vacation time instead of sick time because he never called in sick before the surgery. It was six months worth! Everything I know about baseball is because of him. A good man. Someday I’ll share about my grandma too. Such a cool woman!

141 Gus  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:15:37pm

re: #136 austin_blue

Dig ding ding! Now you’re with the program!

By the way, did you hear the Black Helicopters flown by UN crews over your house last night? No?

See?!?!?!?!?

Worse than that! They sent in secret agents to my domicile while I was sleeping however my stealth detection devices picked up their presence and was alerted teh next day!

Nor Luap!

/

142 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:15:37pm

re: #119 Bobibutu

Cooorimie! Best I did in a 6 was East to West coast in the 40s.

You have obvious profound knowledge of the aircraft industry (or the DC6 specifically) … care to elaborate?

My dad and uncle were Air Force officers and I picked up the bug early. Dad was a B-29 navigator during WW2 and stayed on in the AF afterward. He was stationed at Edwards in the early 60s. Watching the planes was almost all there was to do there, so I started making an effort to find out how they worked. My uncle flew P-40s and P-38s and was in fact an ace. He also stayed in the AF into the 70s.
I was an army aviator until deteriorating eyesight caught up with me, at which point I switched to ADA (air defense artillery), on the theory that if you can’t join ‘em, beat ‘em. I learned a lot about missiles and rocketry there and that tended to reinforce the interest in spaceflight and science fiction that went back to 1957 abd Sputnik. I worked off and on in the industry for a few years while I stayed in the army reserve and pursued my academic career and my interest in writing. All these different threads have tied together over the years to create the set of interests I have now.

143 Sharmuta  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:18:38pm

More Mayer, live:

144 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:18:59pm

re: #142 Shiplord Kirel

Ah, Edwards AFB.
Now home of the Shuttle West, and Dick Rutan.
Cool airplanes, I see a couple here, every week.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

145 Bob Dillon  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:19:09pm

re: #137 Rightwingconspirator

Maybe I have the blue collar version and yours works for the white collar demographic. “Eloquently” gave me the Lord High thing. Just my first impression.

Point well taken.

My intention was to convey persuasive and powerful. I found it also compelling. Bet we get an interesting batch of new hatchlings next go round.

146 austin_blue  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:20:14pm

re: #141 Gus 802

Worse than that! They sent in secret agents to my domicile while I was sleeping however my stealth detection devices picked up their presence and was alerted teh next day!

Nor Luap!

/

But but but they were still able to plant to plant the sensors that can read the secret transmitter strips in your money so they can follow your every cash transaction. You are doomed! Doomed I say! A victim of the NWO and the Jewish Bankers!

/Do I hafta?/

147 Gus  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:22:12pm

re: #146 austin_blue

But but but they were still able to plant to plant the sensors that can read the secret transmitter strips in your money so they can follow your every cash transaction. You are doomed! Doomed I say! A victim of the NWO and the Jewish Bankers!

/Do I hafta?/

Every time you order a pizza from Domino’s Pizza teh Sekrit Puhleece™ is noting it on your record!

148 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:22:26pm

re: #144 Floral Giraffe

Anything Burt Rutan is cool! (I assume you meant Burt)

149 Four More Tears  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:23:35pm

re: #135 Gus 802

Speaking of crackpots:

Young-earth creationist Kent Hovind’s doctoral dissertation

I stopped reading at “Evolution is purely a religion.”

150 austin_blue  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:24:06pm

re: #147 Gus 802

Every time you order a pizza from Domino’s Pizza teh Sekrit Puhleece™ is noting it on your record!

Which is why I eat nothing but canned food and drink distilled rainwater with bourbon. Otherwise I would risk polluting my Precious Bodily Fluids.

151 jaunte  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:24:09pm

re: #147 Gus 802

Every time you order a pizza from Domino’s Pizza teh Sekrit Puhleece™ is noting it on your record!

Busybodies!
Image: busybodies.jpg

152 Charles Johnson  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:24:58pm

If you’re tempted to buy into the ridiculous homophobic “fistgate” smears currently all over the right wing blogs, trying to take down Obama education czar Kevin Jennings (and I know that, unfortunately, we do have some in the lizard army who have been fooled into believing it), please read this:

Anti-gay ‘hate group’ MassResistance is source for right-wing media attacks on Jennings.

Yes, it’s Media Matters. But they are RIGHT in this case. These are the people that are now being promoted by Jim Hoft and Michelle Malkin and the rest of the right wing blogosphere — out and out bigots and haters from the Dark Ages.

153 Bagua  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:26:04pm

re: #98 Rightwingconspirator

Wow. When was that recorded?

First recorded in 1939

I’m wildly guessing the take I posted is from the 1944 NYC WMCA Broadcast New World A’Coming - The StoryOf Negro Music - on account of the interview style.

154 Political Atheist  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:27:06pm

re: #153 Bagua

Sounded way back. Cool link, very glad to have heard it.

155 freetoken  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:27:16pm

re: #131 Gus 802

From yesterday’s press conferences and proceedings, I gather that the document you linked is at least in part OBE.

What is happening in Copenhagen will probably only result in a “political” agreement, and if that is so many nations won’t sign it but the big ones will. As it won’t be a legally binding treaty it won’t be submitted to the US Senate for ratification. Indeed, the Kerry-Graham announcement sounds like they are going for some sort of US decision that implements strategies to deal with AGW, but not on the side of a legally binding treaty.

The small nations, the island states, and the least developed nations will be disappointed and will cry loudly, but that will be the best the US/Canada/UMBRELLA nations will do in agreement with BASIC (Brazil, S.Africa, India, China).

Whatever is finally agreed, it certainly doesn’t look like something that would qualify for an Alex-Jones-NWO type of affair.

156 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:27:36pm

re: #148 Irenicum

Yes, I get the brothers mixed up!
WAY cool planes!

157 austin_blue  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:29:08pm

re: #152 Charles

If you’re tempted to buy into the ridiculous homophobic “fistgate” smears currently all over the right wing blogs, trying to take down Obama education czar Kevin Jennings (and I know that, unfortunately, we do have some in the lizard army who have been fooled into believing it), please read this:

Anti-gay ‘hate group’ MassResistance is source for right-wing media attacks on Jennings.

Yes, it’s Media Matters. But they are RIGHT in this case. These are the people that are now being promoted by the Jim Hoft and Michelle Malkin and the rest of the right wing blogosphere — out and out bigots and haters from the Dark Ages.

But I thought homosexals are trying to recruit our children? And if they recruit ten to their evil lifestyle they get a toaster oven as a prize?

158 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:29:13pm

re: #152 Charles

Something about that seemed just too far out for me to buy into it. An intuitive sense if you will. Thanks for some concrete reasons behind the sense I had. It just seemed blatantly homophobic on the blogosphere’s part.

159 laZardo  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:29:35pm

HAPPY HANUKKAH TO LGF’S ZIONIST HONCO CABAL! :B

As always, here’s my Saturday College-sanctioned Do-gooding.

160 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:30:57pm

re: #156 Floral Giraffe

His stuff has already and will continue to revolutionize aviation, and nowadays space travel.

161 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:31:13pm

re: #152 Charles

There is some SERIOUS crazy out in the blogosphere.
Today’s Example A…

162 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:32:10pm

re: #157 austin_blue

I thought it was an espresso maker!

163 Sharmuta  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:32:47pm

re: #152 Charles

If you’re tempted to buy into the ridiculous homophobic “fistgate” smears currently all over the right wing blogs, trying to take down Obama education czar Kevin Jennings (and I know that, unfortunately, we do have some in the lizard army who have been fooled into believing it), please read this:

Anti-gay ‘hate group’ MassResistance is source for right-wing media attacks on Jennings.

Yes, it’s Media Matters. But they are RIGHT in this case. These are the people that are now being promoted by Jim Hoft and Michelle Malkin and the rest of the right wing blogosphere — out and out bigots and haters from the Dark Ages.

Here is a picture of Mike Huckabee meeting with MassResistance

164 Surabaya Stew  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:33:30pm

re: #55 simoom

Thanks for posting that as I wasn’t able to hear Charles’s interview live.

165 austin_blue  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:34:28pm

re: #162 Irenicum

I thought it was an espresso maker!

Fifty.

A disco mirror ball for 100.

For 500, an intrinsic sense of style and insouciance.

166 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:35:19pm

OK, I needed a cuteness break, and will share!
( LOVE the baby giraffe LOL!)
[Link: www.zooborns.com…]

167 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:35:22pm

re: #152 Charles

If you’re tempted to buy into the ridiculous homophobic “fistgate” smears currently all over the right wing blogs, trying to take down Obama education czar Kevin Jennings (and I know that, unfortunately, we do have some in the lizard army who have been fooled into believing it), please read this:

Anti-gay ‘hate group’ MassResistance is source for right-wing media attacks on Jennings.

Yes, it’s Media Matters. But they are RIGHT in this case. These are the people that are now being promoted by Jim Hoft and Michelle Malkin and the rest of the right wing blogosphere — out and out bigots and haters from the Dark Ages.

It happens that my traitorous brother “Judas” is an outspoken member of MassResistance. He is also a major Dominionist and anti-education activist, as well as being married to my ex-wife.

168 Bob Dillon  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:35:24pm

re: #142 Shiplord Kirel

You did well. Hats off to you and your family. I understand your curiosity drive.

My best friend and I searched the skys for Sputnik - nights on end - never saw it.
I too am a nut cake dyed in the wool science/technology fruit loop. Your brothers flew me around Vietnam and SEAsia in Beachcraft Queenair’s with Kingair wings - forget the designation just now. Also Elmer Fudds when the Navy provided transport to Yankee Station. Built my first rocket in 1958 ish.

Science - technology - evolution - yeah!

169 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:35:51pm

re: #165 austin_blue

Does it count that I used to subscribe to Elle? Style is SO important!

170 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:36:37pm

re: #167 Shiplord Kirel

DAMN!

171 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:37:21pm

re: #167 Shiplord Kirel

All I can say is my sympathies man!

172 austin_blue  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:37:25pm

re: #167 Shiplord Kirel

It happens that my traitorous brother “Judas” is an outspoken member of MassResistance. He is also a major Dominionist and anti-education activist, as well as being married to my ex-wife.

Oh, man, that’s harsh on so many levels.

173 Gus  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:37:26pm

re: #155 freetoken

From yesterday’s press conferences and proceedings, I gather that the document you linked is at least in part OBE.

What is happening in Copenhagen will probably only result in a “political” agreement, and if that is so many nations won’t sign it but the big ones will. As it won’t be a legally binding treaty it won’t be submitted to the US Senate for ratification. Indeed, the Kerry-Graham announcement sounds like they are going for some sort of US decision that implements strategies to deal with AGW, but not on the side of a legally binding treaty.

The small nations, the island states, and the least developed nations will be disappointed and will cry loudly, but that will be the best the US/Canada/UMBRELLA nations will do in agreement with BASIC (Brazil, S.Africa, India, China).

Whatever is finally agreed, it certainly doesn’t look like something that would qualify for an Alex-Jones-NWO type of affair.

That’s the first time I looked at that draft document. I think it’s the Danish version and the only document that’s out there.

No, nothing that comes out of COP15 will be legally binding. After listening to some of the speakers and reading a bit of the news they all want to stick with Kyoto. People also need to keep in mind the Kyoto doesn’t contain any “global taxes,” or control of nations of any sort. The claim is that some at COP15 want to eliminate Kyoto or weaken it which something G77 and AOSIS does not want.

No Alex-Jones-NWO conspiracies. China is riding on the back of G77 for their own protection since their emissions are climbing exponentially. Bad move on the part of the G77 regarding their lead delegate from Sudan.

174 freetoken  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:37:28pm

BTW Gus, I don’t know if you caught the second press conference by your friend from Sudan, but it was a hoot:

[Link: www2.cop15.meta-fusion.com…]

Note who he brings with him this time.

At about 22:20 he tries to put personal pressure on President Obama.

At one point in the presser his minder made a hilarious cross-lingual Freudian slip: “allow” vs. “let”.

175 Charles Johnson  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:37:32pm

I’ve added three excellent blogs to our RSS feeds in the left sidebar, for reliable information about climate change and climate science and the denial industry that constantly pumps confusion into the debate:

Deep Climate
RealClimate
DeSmogBlog %P% Clearing the PR Pollution that Clouds Climate Science

Deep Climate has a post today about one of the right wing’s denial heros, Steven McIntyre, catching him red-handed using a quote mining tactic right out of the creationist playbook:

McIntyre provides fodder for skeptics « Deep Climate

176 laZardo  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:37:57pm

re: #167 Shiplord Kirel

It happens that my traitorous brother “Judas” is an outspoken member of MassResistance. He is also a major Dominionist and anti-education activist, as well as being married to my ex-wife.

Evil doppelganger from a different dimension?

177 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:38:33pm

Sorry I dropped out with saying anything but I fell asleep. Gotta go to bed now, Goodnight all.

178 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:39:09pm

re: #168 Bobibutu

Yep. Damn cool stuff!

179 laZardo  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:39:33pm

re: #177 Dark_Falcon

Nighty.

180 Four More Tears  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:39:49pm

re: #166 Floral Giraffe

OK, I needed a cuteness break, and will share!
( LOVE the baby giraffe LOL!)
[Link: www.zooborns.com…]

I look at the giraffes and wonder how anti-science people can’t see evolution.

Oh, and that hippo is adorable!

181 Surabaya Stew  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:39:54pm

re: #167 Shiplord Kirel

It happens that my traitorous brother “Judas” is an outspoken member of MassResistance. He is also a major Dominionist and anti-education activist, as well as being married to my ex-wife.

What kind of a brother do you have? It all sounds nuts, but that last detail…OMG…what goes on at family gatherings?

182 Surabaya Stew  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:40:26pm

re: #177 Dark_Falcon

G’night…

183 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:40:46pm

re: #175 Charles

Cool. Saved to fave file.

184 Gus  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:41:18pm

re: #174 freetoken

BTW Gus, I don’t know if you caught the second press conference by your friend from Sudan, but it was a hoot:

[Link: www2.cop15.meta-fusion.com…]

Note who he brings with him this time.

At about 22:20 he tries to put personal pressure on President Obama.

At one point in the presser his minder made a hilarious cross-lingual Freudian slip: “allow” vs. “let”.

Thanks. I’ll give it a listen. I swear he’s channeling Howard Zinn from time to time. Of course the Sudan is getting revenge of sorts because they’ve been under enormous pressure from the State Department for a variety of reasons.

185 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:41:40pm

re: #177 Dark_Falcon

Have a good sleep! I should be doing the same.

186 austin_blue  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:41:41pm

re: #175 Charles

I’ve added three excellent blogs to our RSS feeds in the left sidebar, for reliable information about climate change and climate science and the denial industry that constantly pumps confusion into the debate:

Deep Climate
RealClimate
DeSmogBlog %P% Clearing the PR Pollution that Clouds Climate Science

Deep Climate has a post today about one of the right wing’s denial heros, Steven McIntyre, catching him red-handed using a quote mining tactic right out of the creationist playbook:

McIntyre provides fodder for skeptics « Deep Climate

Real Climate! Yay! My favorite!

You may also want to read Sterling’s Viridian Notes at your leisure:

[Link: www.viridiandesign.org…]

Good stuff.

187 freetoken  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:42:31pm

re: #184 Gus 802

His boss can’t visit him in Copenhagen because he would be arrested when he landed.

That pretty much says everything.

188 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:43:10pm

re: #168 Bobibutu

You did well. Hats off to you and your family. I understand your curiosity drive.

My best friend and I searched the skys for Sputnik - nights on end - never saw it.
I too am a nut cake dyed in the wool science/technology fruit loop. Your brothers flew me around Vietnam and SEAsia in Beachcraft Queenair’s with Kingair wings - forget the designation just now. Also Elmer Fudds when the Navy provided transport to Yankee Station. Built my first rocket in 1958 ish.

Science - technology - evolution - yeah!

Many thanks. There was always a sharp dichotomy between my paternal and maternal families, and I took after my dad’s side. This was not the case for all of us though. My brother, mentioned in #167, is more like my mom’s extended clan. Apparently he never realized that she married my dad at least in part to escape from them.

The army Queenaire was the U-8 Seminole, which was a nifty plane and quite rugged, belying its corporate limo origins. I think Elmer Fudd was the Grumman C-1 Trader, but I am not so sure about Navy machines of that era.

189 freetoken  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:45:20pm

The Freudian slip is at 12:47 and the following 6 seconds.

Hilarious, but also sad because it is true. You can almost see the strings from her hand to his mouth.

190 Gus  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:45:24pm

BRB

191 Bob Dillon  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:46:34pm

re: #170 Irenicum

DAMN!

Double Damn - must make for spirited conversation around the Thanksgiving table if it ever occurs.

192 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:46:52pm

re: #181 Surabaya Stew

What kind of a brother do you have? It all sounds nuts, but that last detail…OMG…what goes on at family gatherings?

I only see them at funerals these days. The last time it was anything else was my daughter’s wedding in 2000. It is awkward to say the least but I just remind myself that they are the ones who have cause for embarrassment.

193 Bob Dillon  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:48:26pm

re: #177 Dark_Falcon

Sorry I dropped out with saying anything but I fell asleep. Gotta go to bed now, Goodnight all.

Sleep well DF.

194 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:49:01pm

I forget who it was who posted this earlier, but OMG is it fun to read! Teh crazee is so powerful! It burns and it entertains! About 1/3 down it quotes Glenn Beck and Whirled Nuts Daley as respected sources. It’s just so much fun! The incoherency is a sight to behold!

195 Political Atheist  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:49:16pm

A storm arrives gently thank heavens.
[Link: www.wunderground.com…]

Burn areas are on high alert tonight.
re: #193 Bobibutu

Later!

196 freetoken  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:50:47pm

re: #194 Irenicum

I imagine if the Unabomber did his thing in the age of the Web his website would have a look something like that one and all the other nutty sites whose design is just a rambling mess.

197 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:51:34pm

re: #195 Rightwingconspirator

I’m over in the South Bay, we need the rain.
Gentle is good!
Night!

198 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:52:57pm

re: #194 Irenicum

ACK! My eyes!
Ugly, illegible, etc. etc…

199 laZardo  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:53:04pm

re: #194 Irenicum

re: #196 freetoken

You think that’s crazy rambling? You should check out the Time Cube site.

200 Varek Raith  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:53:36pm

re: #196 freetoken

I imagine if the Unabomber did his thing in the age of the Web his website would have a look something like that one and all the other nutty sites whose design is just a rambling mess.

Like timecube?
Warning! This site is beyond crazy.

201 Varek Raith  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:54:00pm

re: #199 laZardo

Damn! Beat me to it! :D

202 Four More Tears  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:54:19pm

re: #194 Irenicum

I forget who it was who posted this earlier, but OMG is it fun to read! Teh crazee is so powerful! It burns and it entertains! About 1/3 down it quotes Glenn Beck and Whirled Nuts Daley as respected sources. It’s just so much fun! The incoherency is a sight to behold!

All I want to know is… can I have his stuff?

203 Political Atheist  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:54:40pm

re: #199 laZardo

Oh man. Even rubber rooms have internets.

204 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:54:49pm

re: #192 Shiplord Kirel

Sorry to hear that. My own family has its issues. I have a bro MIA for over 2 years now. Over the years I’ve come to realize that we all have issues. But some more than others. I hope peace can be found in your family.

205 freetoken  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:55:00pm

re: #199 laZardo

re: #200 Varek Raith

Oh yes, and infamous site.

The internet has become the world’s largest psychologist’s couch.

206 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:56:35pm

re: #205 freetoken

re: #200 Varek Raith

Oh yes, and infamous site.

The internet has become the world’s largest psychologist’s couch.

It has?
How come they’re not getting any healthier?
No analysis?
///

207 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:56:38pm

re: #196 freetoken

Indeed. Incoherency seems to be their forte.

208 laZardo  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:57:20pm

re: #206 Floral Giraffe

The internet has no healthcare plan.

/as it were.

209 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:57:23pm

re: #198 Floral Giraffe

Made ya look!

210 freetoken  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:57:58pm

re: #206 Floral Giraffe

It has?
How come they’re not getting any healthier?
No analysis?
///

Perhaps psychotherapy isn’t all its proponents desire it to be?

211 Bagua  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:58:39pm

re: #205 freetoken

Did you come to a first choice for webhost?

212 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:58:42pm

re: #209 Irenicum

Made ya look!

I oughta down ding you for that!
///

213 Bob Dillon  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:58:47pm

re: #188 Shiplord Kirel

Many thanks. There was always a sharp dichotomy between my paternal and maternal families, and I took after my dad’s side. This was not the case for all of us though. My brother, mentioned in #167, is more like my mom’s extended clan. Apparently he never realized that she married my dad at least in part to escape from them.

The army Queenaire was the U-8 Seminole, which was a nifty plane and quite rugged, belying its corporate limo origins. I think Elmer Fudd was the Grumman C-1 Trader, but I am not so sure about Navy machines of that era.

Thanks - yes U-8s - rugged - yes sir! Bounced all over the sky in SEAsia thunderstorms and nary a tatter.

My moms family is from the SC Low Country circa late 1700s - and in the words of one of the Muppets … “Looks like we picked up a wierdo”.

My paternal side (like LGF) is an oasis of sanity.

214 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:59:02pm

re: #176 laZardo

Evil doppelganger from a different dimension?

That’s a good way to put it. In many ways, his personality is almost a direct inversion of mine. He has always had a kind of martyr complex, as though he bears some terrible inner burden that the rest of us just do not have the greatness of soul to understand. I am generally tolerant up to the point at which a compromise with evil is demanded, which is where I draw the line and will go no further. He is dogmatic and uncompromising up to the same kind of point, at which time he will weaken and make compromises that I would not make.

215 Baier  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:59:17pm

I was hanging out with some friends at the Village Underground, across the street from the Blue Note and John Mayer came in an played with the house band for about an hour. It was really great. There had to be less than 100 people in the place.
He’s a fun to watch play.

216 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 10:59:25pm

re: #199 laZardo

Holy shit. That officially takes the cake. I should say thank you, but I can’t.

217 laZardo  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 11:00:00pm

re: #216 Irenicum

You’re welcome anyway.

218 bosforus  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 11:00:21pm

Just listened to the Colmes interview. Awesome. Well done, Charles. I’m glad you mentioned the decline in political blog readership after the election. It was something I was keeping an eye on, too, via Alexa. I thought it was weird that blogs were criticizing each other for it (though I don’t recall you ever doing it) when everyone’s blog “attendance” was sinking like a rock.
Great interview.
And well done, Shiplord!

219 Locker  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 11:01:08pm

Game Over.

Rocklin 21
Del Oro 14

Our boys are going to the California State Championship bowl game! Woop woop woop! Good wishes to our quarterback who injured his left wrist/arm during the end of the fourth quarter. Hope you feel better buddy and can play in the game next weekend.

ROLLL THUNDER!

220 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 11:01:16pm

re: #202 JasonA

If it was ever legalized, the world would implode.

221 Varek Raith  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 11:01:44pm

re: #216 Irenicum

Holy shit. That officially takes the cake. I should say thank you, but I can’t.

I read that whole site a while back… I’ve never encountered such crazy before…
/the internet has warped my fragile little mind!

222 austin_blue  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 11:01:59pm

One o’clock in drizzly, cold Austin. Got to get some sleep. Good night Lizards. Sleep well.

223 Gus  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 11:02:19pm

re: #189 freetoken

The Freudian slip is at 12:47 and the following 6 seconds.

Hilarious, but also sad because it is true. You can almost see the strings from her hand to his mouth.

Thanks. China is the puppet master of the G77 nations here.

She mentioned “historical responsibility” [of developed countries] referring to financing again. US Aid including peace keeping operations hovered around 26 billion in 2006 or 2008. It’s gone up since then. Knowing the type of development assistance corruption that’s gone on over the years and most particularly in Africa I’m pretty sure whatever “assistance” they get will end up in the hands of the ruling war lords. And now she’s bringing up eradicating poverty which is not the goal of COP15.

I’m trying to keep my composure here but let me just say I completely reject G77/China’s rhetoric.

224 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 11:02:46pm

re: #214 Shiplord Kirel

It sounds like you have come to terms with your family situation. I am glad to see that. Many folks never get over such difficulty. It sounds like you are in a healthy place and I hope it is so.
{{{Shiplord Kirel}}}

225 Four More Tears  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 11:03:43pm

Time for a little break. Think I’ll watch Orcas teach their young hunting techniques.

226 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 11:05:11pm

re: #194 Irenicum

I forget who it was who posted this earlier, but OMG is it fun to read! Teh crazee is so powerful! It burns and it entertains! About 1/3 down it quotes Glenn Beck and Whirled Nuts Daley as respected sources. It’s just so much fun! The incoherency is a sight to behold!

Holy guacamole! Why do the kooks always go in for garish colors and oversize type?

re: #218 bosforus

Just listened to the Colmes interview. Awesome. Well done, Charles. I’m glad you mentioned the decline in political blog readership after the election. It was something I was keeping an eye on, too, via Alexa. I thought it was weird that blogs were criticizing each other for it (though I don’t recall you ever doing it) when everyone’s blog “attendance” was sinking like a rock.
Great interview.
And well done, Shiplord!

Many thanks! Listening to it again, I wish I had put more emphasis on the “P” in “Shiplord” though. It could easily have sounded like a “T” to someone who didn’t get such good reception.

227 Surabaya Stew  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 11:05:54pm

re: #192 Shiplord Kirel

I only see them at funerals these days. The last time it was anything else was my daughter’s wedding in 2000. It is awkward to say the least but I just remind myself that they are the ones who have cause for embarrassment.

Gee whiz…sounds pretty harsh to have such a family lurking in the back of your mind. You’re totally correct of course, they’re the ones with the problem, not the Lizard!

228 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 11:08:02pm

re: #222 austin_blue

You too. Sleep well.

229 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 11:09:02pm

re: #224 Floral Giraffe

Ditto on the hug.

230 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 11:10:18pm

re: #226 Shiplord Kirel

Dontcha worry! We heard ya well!

231 Bob Dillon  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 11:13:39pm

re: #227 Surabaya Stew

Hey SS - how ya doing?

232 freetoken  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 11:16:53pm

re: #211 Bagua

Did you come to a first choice for webhost?

Thanks for asking, but no, I haven’t. Checking out webhost sales sites is like walking onto a used car lot - they have the scuzzy feel as if you aren’t going to get the whole truth.

233 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 11:18:43pm

re: #232 freetoken

Order now while supplies last! If you don’t buy with us you’re doomed! Yep. That kinda stuff.

234 Bob Dillon  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 11:18:51pm

re: #226 Shiplord Kirel

Just out of curiosity - older or younger bro?

235 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 11:20:54pm

re: #226 Shiplord Kirel

BAH!
You did GREAT!
*applause heard VERY loudly*
Virtually whacks Shiplord Kirel on the back, in a nice way…
;)

236 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 11:22:17pm

re: #234 Bobibutu

Just out of curiosity - older or younger bro?

Younger by 15 months. My ex is a year older than I am so her homecoming queen charms are ancient history and that is really all she ever had. He is well and truly stuck with her though.

237 freetoken  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 11:23:25pm

re: #233 Irenicum

Oh yes, the “sale ends today” and “buy now!”.

Ugh.

238 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 11:25:17pm

re: #235 Floral Giraffe

BAH!
You did GREAT!
*applause heard VERY loudly*
Virtually whacks Shiplord Kirel on the back, in a nice way…
;)

Many thanks, FG, and all the other lizardoids who have been so supportive. A lot of the credit goes to Colmes and his screener, Amy, as well as to Charles himself for taking his stand in the first place and then backing it up on national radio.

239 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 11:29:26pm

re: #238 Shiplord Kirel

Yes, well, Charles had support.
You did not. Yet, you stepped out & did a great job.
You deserve recognition for that.
*applause*

240 Bob Dillon  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 11:33:03pm

re: #236 Shiplord Kirel

Younger by 15 months. My ex is a year older than I am so her homecoming queen charms are ancient history and that is really all she ever had. He is well and truly stuck with her though.

Wow - that two could grow up with such divergent views so close together - where did you experience the start of the split?

I am an old man and curious about family relationships. Mine are a mess. My neighbors (happily married for 20+ years) were the same bro/wife - now other bro/same wife … go figure.

241 Bob Dillon  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 11:35:44pm

re: #238 Shiplord Kirel

Many thanks, FG, and all the other lizardoids who have been so supportive. A lot of the credit goes to Colmes and his screener, Amy, as well as to Charles himself for taking his stand in the first place and then backing it up on national radio.

When we take a stand - defining our boundaries to others - weak friendships fall off and the strong blossom.

The rest is BS.

242 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 11:41:22pm

re: #240 Bobibutu

Wow - that two could grow up with such divergent views so close together - where did you experience the start of the split?

I am an old man and curious about family relationships. Mine are a mess. My neighbors (happily married for 20+ years) were the same bro/wife - now other bro/same wife … go figure.

Hard to say but it goes way back. When we were really little, pre-school age, he was much the faster learner. He could tie his shoes before I could for example. When we got to school and I learned to read, that reversed itself. I was selected for a special academic program (the kind of thing now known as “gifted and talented”) when I was in the fifth grade and started going to a different school. He was actually selected for the same program but we moved before he could start and he felt cheated. We also started spending more time with my mom’s family and I suspect that his resentment dovetailed with their all-encompassing anti-intellectualism and rewarded him for resenting me.

243 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Dec 11, 2009 11:44:46pm

re: #240 Bobibutu

It also didn’t help that he was small for his age and I was big, even allowing for the difference in age. In adult life, I am 6 inches taller than he is. Interestingly, my ex is 2 inches taller than he is and I think this suited her primitive impulse to dominate a relationship, something that would have doomed our marriage even if he hadn’t intervened.

244 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Dec 12, 2009 2:23:30am

re: #152 Charles

If you’re tempted to buy into the ridiculous homophobic “fistgate” smears currently all over the right wing blogs, trying to take down Obama education czar Kevin Jennings (and I know that, unfortunately, we do have some in the lizard army who have been fooled into believing it), please read this:

Anti-gay ‘hate group’ MassResistance is source for right-wing media attacks on Jennings.

Yes, it’s Media Matters. But they are RIGHT in this case. These are the people that are now being promoted by Jim Hoft and Michelle Malkin and the rest of the right wing blogosphere — out and out bigots and haters from the Dark Ages.

Bump for truth!

245 Slap  Sat, Dec 12, 2009 9:07:08am

re: #35 JasonA

Not quite in dingable mode yet — but anyone who works to keep Eva Cassidy’s memory alive is doing the lord’s work, and I would multiply upding ya if I could.

246 b_sharp  Sat, Dec 12, 2009 9:33:52am

re: #12 Shiplord Kirel

Free Republic’s purge of evolutionists is a pretty good indication of just how far this cancer of superstition has progressed on the right.
Creationism has dominated at FR for many years, of course, but there was always a sizable contingent of pro-science types (mostly old line Goldwater conservatives) who were willing to mix it up with the creos and who usually gave as good as they got. No more, though. The purge at the top conservative site is a good indication that anti-science is now sacrosanct dogma on what passes for the right.

That was rather an interesting time at FR for us, not only did we have to argue with commenters, we had to stand up to a couple of anti-science pro-woo moderators and Jimbo himself. There was little choice but to regroup at DarwinCentral and let those pro-science commenters still unbanned do their stuff while they could.

A good percentage of the pro-evos at FR were scientists, some of them well known.

247 Decatur Deb  Sat, Dec 12, 2009 3:11:39pm

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