A Tea Party Die-In - The Circle is Unbroken

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Yes, that’s right. Any differences remaining between the far left and the far right are now forever erased.

The first breach in the wall: the giant puppets.

And now the wall comes all the way down, with a much-favored tactic of Code Pink: the die-in.

It is time, once again, to flex our muscle and exert that influence to hold the line in our fight against the government takeover of healthcare. The Senate is busy working on the details of a government run health care bill and they would like to pass it as quickly as possible. Some of them are under the false impression that we’ve given up and gone away just because they haven’t heard much from us in the past few days. And those Senators who have not made a final decision on how to vote are in danger of leaning in the wrong direction. We must remind them that our steadfast opposition to a government takeover of health care is as strong now as it has been all along.

So here’s the plan. On Tuesday, December 15 at 8:45 AM thousands of us will meet in Washington, DC at the fountain in Upper Senate Park. From there we will march to the Senate offices, go inside, and demonstrate our opposition to the government takeover of health care. We call this plan “Government Waiting Rooms”. The intention is to go inside the Senate offices and hallways, and play out the role of patients waiting for treatment in government controlled medical facilities. As the day goes on some of us will pretend to die from our untreated illnesses and collapse on the floor. Many of us plan to stay there until they force us to leave. A backup location for this demonstration will be announced if they block us from entering the offices.

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219 comments
1 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 8:43:38pm

I bet Medea shows up anyways.

2 Bob Dillon  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 8:44:31pm

Damn - I hate it when short notice is given.

3 Christopher Luebcke  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 8:45:48pm

Are there two different plans floating around? Because I missed the one about the government running medical facilities.

4 jaunte  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 8:46:31pm

Dec. 3, 1964 – Over 800 students are arrested at UC Berkeley after their takeover and sit-in at the administration building, protesting the UC Regents’ decision to forbid Vietnam War protests on UC property.

5 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 8:46:33pm

re: #1 Sharmuta

I bet Medea shows up anyways.

Well, Mark Lloyd will be in her stead. (Buncha' fucking Commie assholes.)

6 laZardo  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 8:46:53pm

Till we find our place~ on the path unwinding~!

7 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 8:48:31pm

They really bought the myth these tactics worked for the left. It's killing the gop.

8 Virginia Plain  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 8:48:40pm

WTF is their point? People wait for treatment even now and yes, some do pass away while waiting. I guess in their puny minds, it is better for private enterprise to decide who lives and who dies, rather than the government.

9 Christopher Luebcke  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 8:49:50pm

re: #8 Virginia Plain

Is it not the case that under the new plan, those decisions will still be made by private enterprise?

10 Killgore Trout  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 8:50:00pm

Let's not forget about the drum circles....

11 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 8:50:03pm

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Praise for Chavez

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12 laZardo  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 8:51:05pm

re: #10 Killgore Trout

I enjoyed Paulites because their nuttiness was a sort of bizarre yet humorous sideshow to the doldrums of mainstream politics.

Then they got serious and mainstream.

13 Basho  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 8:52:05pm

Yeah I've been to Europe and have family there. The healthcare is terrible and the hospitals are filled with dead bodies. There are no longer any spaces available in the graveyards.
/////////////////////////////////

14 Killgore Trout  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 8:52:46pm

re: #12 laZardo

I enjoyed Paulites because their nuttiness was a sort of bizarre yet humorous sideshow to the doldrums of mainstream politics.

Then they got serious and mainstream.

Even I underestimated how mainstream they'd become. I still find it rather vexing.

15 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 8:53:58pm

re: #8 Virginia Plain

WTF is their point? People wait for treatment even now and yes, some do pass away while waiting. I guess in their puny minds, it is better for private enterprise to decide who lives and who dies, rather than the government.

That's what I find kind of funny. The left wing groups have been staging die-ins too, but they're protesting it from the other side- that it's people without insurance.

16 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 8:54:49pm

Laura Ingraham was trying to torture a ?CBS newsperson on her show today, asking how many reporters CBS was sending to cover this.
He kept saying "he was on vacation" and didn't know.
LOL!
Laura has been pimping this for a couple of weeks, IIRC.

17 Killgore Trout  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 8:54:52pm
18 Basho  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 8:55:23pm

re: #8 Virginia Plain

WTF is their point? People wait for treatment even now and yes, some do pass away while waiting. I guess in their puny minds, it is better for private enterprise to decide who lives and who dies, rather than the government.

The point is that they're ignoramuses and want to demonstrate the fact that they have never spent time in any other country ever.

19 Kronocide  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 8:55:53pm

No... not the drum circles... please...

20 Killgore Trout  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 8:55:58pm

re: #17 Killgore Trout

huzzah!

21 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 8:56:29pm

I posted this one here a couple of days ago because I thought that it was not only excessively stupid but dangerous as well. Are EMS workers going to be wasting time checking these people instead of responding to real emergencies? If the people who "keel over" aren't being checked and are dismissed as kooks then what happens to someone who actually does have a heart attack or stroke at the Capitol that day?

22 laZardo  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 8:56:55pm

re: #17 Killgore Trout

Mah pantaloons explode with delight.

In bed? That's a bit premature.

/ C:

23 [deleted]  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 8:56:57pm
24 Basho  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 8:57:59pm

re: #23 MikeySDCA

Begging your pardon, where in Europe?

I put like a million sarc tags but only three appeared...

25 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 8:58:03pm

re: #23 MikeySDCA

Begging your pardon, where in Europe?

From his description, he was actually in Detroit.

/no sarc, things are actually that bad there.

26 [deleted]  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 8:58:14pm
27 Killgore Trout  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 8:58:16pm

re: #22 laZardo

Are you mocking the C prompt?
/outrage!

28 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 8:58:44pm

If Glenn Beck and the right wing blogosphere had been around in World War II, we never would have developed the atomic bomb -- because they would have hounded the Truman administration to fire Robert Oppenheimer, director of the Manhattan Project, for his far left communist associations.

Just a thought.

29 Basho  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 8:59:04pm

re: #26 MikeySDCA

:)

30 Bagua  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 8:59:20pm

re: #28 Charles

:)

31 Racer X  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 8:59:46pm

Health care is another area where I've changed my mind. The government needs to act like the insurance carrier and collect premiums from everyone. You want better care - get a supplemental policy. Not a problem.

Hospitals charging $8.00 per aspirin is ridiculous.

32 Basho  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 8:59:53pm

re: #30 Bagua

Jinx

33 [deleted]  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 8:59:56pm
34 Gus  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:00:18pm

re: #28 Charles

If Glenn Beck and the right wing blogosphere had been around in World War II, we never would have developed the atomic bomb -- because they would have hounded the Truman administration to fire Robert Oppenheimer, director of the Manhattan Project, for his far left communist associations.

Just a thought.

Robert Oppenheimer, Fellow Traveler (Communist Student)
Albert Einstein, Socialist

35 Four More Tears  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:00:38pm

re: #31 Racer X

Health care is another area where I've changed my mind. The government needs to act like the insurance carrier and collect premiums from everyone. You want better care - get a supplemental policy. Not a problem.

Hospitals charging $8.00 per aspirin is ridiculous.

Sarc tags be damned, I never know when you're serious.

36 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:00:48pm

re: #33 MikeySDCA

Roosevelt Administration.

Actually, both Roosevelt and Truman.

37 Gus  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:01:14pm

re: #33 MikeySDCA

Roosevelt Administration.

Manhattan Project...

If it wasn't for the socialist and the communist?

38 Racer X  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:01:32pm

re: #35 JasonA

Sarc tags be damned, I never know when you're serious.

Heh - not often but this one I am.

39 Jack Burton  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:01:45pm

re: #28 Charles

If Glenn Beck and the right wing blogosphere had been around in World War II, we never would have developed the atomic bomb -- because they would have hounded the Truman administration to fire Robert Oppenheimer, director of the Manhattan Project, for his far left communist associations.

Just a thought.

IIRC Oppenheimer did get harassed quite a bit about it and eventually lost his security clearance, but well after Trinity.

40 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:03:14pm

re: #28 Charles

If Glenn Beck and the right wing blogosphere had been around in World War II, we never would have developed the atomic bomb -- because they would have hounded the Truman administration to fire Robert Oppenheimer, director of the Manhattan Project, for his far left communist associations.

Just a thought.

Well, he was actually hounded out later. He was useful during the war, but given his refusal to turn on his past associates, the US Government turning on him was a needed thing.

41 Gus  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:03:36pm

This "die in" thing only proves that these Tea Party bumpkins are just getting crazier.

42 Racer X  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:04:04pm
43 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:04:43pm

re: #31 Racer X

Health care is another area where I've changed my mind. The government needs to act like the insurance carrier and collect premiums from everyone. You want better care - get a supplemental policy. Not a problem.

Hospitals charging $8.00 per aspirin is ridiculous.

I don't agree, Racer. I think it can be done without that level of government intervention, but a regulatory overhaul is badly needed.

44 Four More Tears  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:04:53pm

re: #41 Gus 802

This "die in" thing only proves that these Tea Party bumpkins are just getting crazier.

I'm still trying to figure how it would be interpreted. If I say a bunch of people fake-dying in front of me I'd think "Damn, those people really want health care now."

45 Basho  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:05:42pm

re: #44 JasonA

I'm still trying to figure how it would be interpreted. If I say a bunch of people fake-dying in front of me I'd think "Damn, those people really want health care now."

lmao

46 Christopher Luebcke  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:06:14pm

re: #44 JasonA

I'm still trying to figure how it would be interpreted. If I say a bunch of people fake-dying in front of me I'd think "Damn, those people really want health care now."

Perhaps somebody should wander through, applying "Now I Have A Preexisting Condition" stickers to the stricken.

47 ignoranceisfatal  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:06:25pm

'ees not ded, 'ees jus' sleepin'!

48 laZardo  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:07:03pm

re: #47 ignoranceisfatal

Nope, he's dead, Jim.

49 Bob Dillon  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:07:05pm

re: #28 Charles

If Glenn Beck and the right wing blogosphere had been around in World War II, we never would have developed the atomic bomb -- because they would have hounded the Truman administration to fire Robert Oppenheimer, director of the Manhattan Project, for his far left communist associations.

Just a thought.

If they had found out about it - maybe. The project was super secret. And Truman had the huevos, I think, to tell 'em to stuff it if they had.

50 Four More Tears  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:07:17pm

re: #42 Racer X

Metal That Remembers

Oh just imagine the pranks you could pull with that...

51 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:07:48pm

re: #41 Gus 802

This "die in" thing only proves that these Tea Party bumpkins are just getting crazier.

That's no Die In, that's a Wingularity!

52 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:07:51pm

re: #49 Bobibutu

If they had found out about it - maybe. The project was super secret. And Truman had the huevos, I think, to tell 'em to stuff it if they had.

No way. Nothing can stand before the awesome power of Jim Hoft.

53 pharmmajor  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:08:10pm

Every time I think these ret@rded protesters can't get any more insane, they prove me wrong.

If the Tea Partyers and ANSWER ever collaborate in a protest, I fear there will be a crazy explosion that will wipe out society.

54 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:08:40pm

re: #3 Christopher Luebcke

Are there two different plans floating around? Because I missed the one about the government running medical facilities.

Yes. There's the real plan, and the imaginary plan.

55 Gus  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:09:08pm

re: #44 JasonA

I'm still trying to figure how it would be interpreted. If I say a bunch of people fake-dying in front of me I'd think "Damn, those people really want health care now."

Billionaires for health care reform!

Yeah, I'm sure they'll refuse Medicare and/or Medicaid when the time comes. If they aren't "on the dole" already.

56 Varek Raith  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:09:21pm

re: #54 SanFranciscoZionist

Yes. There's the real plan, and the imaginary plan.

Then, there's Plan 9.

57 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:09:41pm

re: #8 Virginia Plain

WTF is their point? People wait for treatment even now and yes, some do pass away while waiting. I guess in their puny minds, it is better for private enterprise to decide who lives and who dies, rather than the government.

I don't think it's that philosophical. They just believe that if the government decides, they will be the ones to die, whereas if private enterprise does it, it will be some people they don't know, who probably had it coming.

58 [deleted]  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:10:19pm
59 pharmmajor  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:10:59pm

re: #54 SanFranciscoZionist

Yes. There's the real plan, and the imaginary plan.

What about the plan that works?

60 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:11:13pm

re: #56 Varek Raith

Then, there's Plan 9.

Whatever you say, Mr. Wood.

61 Racer X  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:12:10pm

re: #43 Dark_Falcon

I don't agree, Racer. I think it can be done without that level of government intervention, but a regulatory overhaul is badly needed.

I sure hope you are right - I really do not want the government getting involved in it. But the reality is that the more people participating (paying) in a health plan the lower the overall costs are.

If one entity collects from everyone, AND is negotiating with the private health care providers on costs, I think the system would function better.

62 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:12:40pm

re: #59 pharmmajor

What about the plan that works?

There's no such thing. This is the US Senate we're talking about. If it works really well, it offends too many special interests to pass.

/I wish I was kidding.

63 Jack Burton  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:12:47pm

re: #31 Racer X

64 laZardo  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:12:53pm

re: #56 Varek Raith

Then, there's Plan 9.

FROM OUTER SPAAACE.

65 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:13:54pm

re: #61 Racer X

I sure hope you are right - I really do not want the government getting involved in it. But the reality is that the more people participating (paying) in a health plan the lower the overall costs are.

If one entity collects from everyone, AND is negotiating with the private health care providers on costs, I think the system would function better.

The problem is that said entity would simply be able to strong-arm the insurers. We want entities that can negotiate, but they should not have an overwhelming position.

66 golgoth  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:15:37pm

Do these Farking people not read a newspaper? I know they have the internets, how can they not pick up a new article and see what the hell is going on.

Even in the most biased news they must have been seen something about what Lieberman is doing, along with the different public plans being offered. 59 Senators are ready to vote on cloture, the negotiations are in play, and teabaggers have almost no voice in this.

What is this little stunt going to even do?

Sen X: "I support the public option"
Teabagger: "Sociiazm kills" *thud*
Sen X: "if only I knew.........!"

Adults are at work here, go play your games elsewhere and try to time things better.

67 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:15:38pm

re: #56 Varek Raith

Then, there's Plan 9.

From outer space?

68 Varek Raith  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:17:16pm

re: #67 SanFranciscoZionist

From outer space?

The most Awesomest Bad Movie Ever. I watch it once or twice a year. :/

69 Racer X  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:17:30pm
70 Virginia Plain  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:18:50pm

re: #59 pharmmajor

What about the plan that works?

Nowhere to be found.

71 Stanghazi  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:19:55pm

re: #57 SanFranciscoZionist

I don't think it's that philosophical. They just believe that if the government decides, they will be the ones to die, whereas if private enterprise does it, it will be some people they don't know, who probably had it coming.

In my opinion, you nailed it on the head.

72 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:20:39pm

PJ Media has charged full on into climate change denial country. They now have creationists, white supremacists, and climate change deniers writing for them, including the craziest of them all, Lord High Denier Monckton.

And they're circulating the stolen emails too, enabling criminal behavior. What a sad degeneration.

73 Gus  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:20:52pm

Just a reminder.

Taxdayteaparty dot com is an Eric Odom website.

Ron Paul, III Percenters, Oath Keepers, and other reactionary twits.

74 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:21:23pm

It's the end of the world as we know it...

75 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:21:41pm

re: #73 Gus 802

Just a reminder.

Taxdayteaparty dot com is an Eric Odom website.

Ron Paul, III Percenters, Oath Keepers, and other reactionary twits.

Yes, and Eric Odom is behind at least some of the LGF stalkers.

76 laZardo  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:22:39pm

re: #74 Floral Giraffe

LE! NERD! BURN! STEEN!

77 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:23:39pm

re: #72 Charles

PJ Media has charged full on into climate change denial country. They now have creationists, white supremacists, and climate change deniers writing for them, including the craziest of them all, Lord High Denier Monckton.

And they're circulating the stolen emails too, enabling criminal behavior. What a sad degeneration.

And, they're not the only ones.
Several of my FORMER favorite sites, are heading off the climate cliff,
or the health care cliff, or the Obama cliff, like the lemmings that they have shown themselves to be.

Thank you again for this island of reason, Charles.

78 Varek Raith  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:23:43pm

re: #72 Charles

PJ Media has charged full on into climate change denial country. They now have creationists, white supremacists, and climate change deniers writing for them, including the craziest of them all, Lord High Denier Monckton.

And they're circulating the stolen emails too, enabling criminal behavior. What a sad degeneration.

What absolute insanity. They no doubt see nothing wrong with this, they're probably proud of it...

79 Four More Tears  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:23:52pm

"Oh, I'm afraid the health care plan will be quite operational when the 2010 midterms arrive."

80 Racer X  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:23:54pm
81 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:24:52pm

re: #75 Charles

Yes, and Eric Odom is behind at least some of the LGF stalkers.

Which ones? i just want to know so I know who to aim the rotten tomatoes at.

82 Varek Raith  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:25:17pm

re: #79 JasonA

"Oh, I'm afraid the health care plan will be quite operational when the 2010 midterms arrive."

Yes but, does it have a super laser?

83 Killgore Trout  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:25:35pm

re: #28 Charles

If Glenn Beck and the right wing blogosphere had been around in World War II, we never would have developed the atomic bomb -- because they would have hounded the Truman administration to fire Robert Oppenheimer, director of the Manhattan Project, for his far left communist associations.

Just a thought.

If George Washington, Ben Franklin and Thomas Paine were to appear today Beck would proclaim them as agents of ACORN and claim they were advocating fisting of preschoolers.

84 Four More Tears  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:25:50pm

re: #82 Varek Raith

Yes but, does it have a super laser?

Attached to sharks, no less.

85 Gus  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:26:24pm

re: #75 Charles

Yes, and Eric Odom is behind at least some of the LGF stalkers.

Yep. And behind a lot of general internet sockpuppets and astroturfing.

86 Four More Tears  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:26:39pm

re: #83 Killgore Trout

Thankfully, Jason had just finished his drink when Killgore made him laugh his ass off...

87 Killgore Trout  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:26:43pm

OT: goat cheese is quite delicious.

88 Killgore Trout  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:28:36pm

re: #81 Dark_Falcon

Odom is providing logistical support for LGF 2. Not sure what the connection is.

89 Gus  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:28:53pm

Eric Odom

Eric Odom is a 29 year-old conservative activist, blogger and partner in the online media firm Strategic Activism LLC. Odom organized a counter-protest to a pro-health insurance reform rally in Chicago on August 4, 2009. He he describes himself in the recent past as a "stealth style eActivist" and a "Chicago-based, libertarian Web strategist."

Notice the phrase, stealth style.

90 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:29:32pm

re: #84 JasonA

Attached to sharks, no less.

Impossible. Do you know how powerful a fusion reactor you need to power a superlaser? Even an lower powered one can crack a planet's crust or blow a Mon Calamari Star Cruiser to bits!

/Stay on Target!

91 wiffersnapper  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:30:38pm

So much for the creativity gene in these tea partiers. This is getting hilariously sad.

92 Jaerik  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:31:01pm

Again?

But I don't want to go on the cart...

93 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:31:08pm

re: #88 Killgore Trout

Was he behind the name change from LGF2 to Blogcromancy? Or whatever they're calling themselves this minute....

94 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:31:30pm

We could mount a counter protest, and call it a laugh-in.

95 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:31:47pm

re: #88 Killgore Trout

Odom is providing logistical support for LGF 2. Not sure what the connection is.

It's called "warfare by proxy". He doesn't want to fight Charles directed, so he provides support to Rodan and his Merry Banned.

96 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:32:03pm

re: #9 Christopher Luebcke

Is it not the case that under the new plan, those decisions will still be made by private enterprise?

All joking aside, yes. There has been an interesting lack of interest in what the health care plan actually calls for, amongst its opponents.

97 Four More Tears  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:32:04pm

re: #93 Floral Giraffe

Was he behind the name change from LGF2 to Blogcromancy? Or whatever they're calling themselves this minute...

I just imagined Lord Voldemort behind a keyboard in his pajamas.

98 Girth  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:32:21pm

Allow people to buy from large, nationwide insurance pools, then take a sledgehammer to the way healthcare is currently run. Make it more a la carte, with the options to buy as much coverage as you want.

The majority of care should be done by a quick visit to a nurse, who would then be able to offer simple treatment options for minor injuries and illnesses. If you feel you need to see a doctor, they're still there too of course, working on the more serious cases.

Redo the entire prescription drug system. Only addictive or particularly powerful drugs would require prescriptions. Pharmacists would play more of a role by discussing with customers different drug options.

Just my crazy idea that I kick around from time to time.

99 Racer X  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:32:28pm

re: #83 Killgore Trout

Dude.

100 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:33:03pm

re: #93 Floral Giraffe

Was he behind the name change from LGF2 to Blogcromancy? Or whatever they're calling themselves this minute...

They call themselves "The Blogmocracy".

101 Racer X  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:33:35pm
102 Killgore Trout  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:33:42pm

re: #93 Floral Giraffe

Odom was the contact name for the registration of their domain name. I never have been able to figure out the connection but I assume it was that LGF was so unfriendly to Paulians during the campaign.

103 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:34:20pm

re: #98 Girth

Allow people to buy from large, nationwide insurance pools, then take a sledgehammer to the way healthcare is currently run. Make it more a la carte, with the options to buy as much coverage as you want.

The majority of care should be done by a quick visit to a nurse, who would then be able to offer simple treatment options for minor injuries and illnesses. If you feel you need to see a doctor, they're still there too of course, working on the more serious cases.

Redo the entire prescription drug system. Only addictive or particularly powerful drugs would require prescriptions. Pharmacists would play more of a role by discussing with customers different drug options.

Just my crazy idea that I kick around from time to time.

I like that idea. Girth for Senate!

104 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:34:54pm

re: #102 Killgore Trout

Odom started the Olberman watch blog as well, and rodan was a named a contributor.

105 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:35:00pm

re: #19 BigPapa

No... not the drum circles... please...

Drum circles are a lot more fun when everyone has their own kit.

(it also helps when everyone can actually play)

106 Stanghazi  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:35:05pm

re: #89 Gus 802

Eric Odom

Notice the phrase, stealth style.

Ahhh, so he's a Chicago Machine Politics Thug? //?

107 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:35:08pm

re: #97 JasonA

I just imagined Lord Voldemort behind a keyboard in his pajamas.

It's kinda like that, except Voldemort is WAAAY more powerful, in real life!
Being a fictional character & all.

108 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:35:47pm

re: #100 Dark_Falcon

They call themselves "The Blogmocracy".

I was close. Or close enough......

109 Girth  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:36:05pm

re: #103 Dark_Falcon

I like that idea. Girth for Senate!

Thanks. I'm sure it would piss off about every special interest involved though. Which is probably a good thing.

110 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:36:09pm

re: #101 Racer X

Anal Sunshine


Paging Mr. Sullivan, Mr. Andrew Sullivan.

/sorry I couldn't resist

111 Racer X  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:36:52pm

31 Story Building Imploded!

(the comments on Youtube are hilarious - 9/11 conspiracy nuts abound)

112 laZardo  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:36:54pm

re: #98 Girth

Allow people to buy from large, nationwide insurance pools, then take a sledgehammer to the way healthcare is currently run. Make it more a la carte, with the options to buy as much coverage as you want.

The majority of care should be done by a quick visit to a nurse, who would then be able to offer simple treatment options for minor injuries and illnesses. If you feel you need to see a doctor, they're still there too of course, working on the more serious cases.

Redo the entire prescription drug system. Only addictive or particularly powerful drugs would require prescriptions. Pharmacists would play more of a role by discussing with customers different drug options.

Just my crazy idea that I kick around from time to time.

Over here we can purchase insurance through text message.

Seriously.

113 Velvet Elvis  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:36:54pm

When I was in college I helped organize an anti-war rally on campus prior to the 2003 invasion of Iraq. One of my contributions was 86ing the "die in" idea because they are so obnoxious.

114 Varek Raith  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:38:03pm

re: #90 Dark_Falcon

Impossible. Do you know how powerful a fusion reactor you need to power a superlaser? Even an lower powered one can crack a planet's crust or blow a Mon Calamari Star Cruiser to bits!

/Stay on Target!

Eclipse SSD. Beast of a ship.

re: #95 Dark_Falcon

It's called "warfare by proxy". He doesn't want to fight Charles directed, so he provides support to Rodan and his Merry Banned.

Yeah, Odom fancies himself a 'stealth activist'. Aka, a coward who gets others to do his dirty work.

115 laZardo  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:38:52pm

re: #111 Racer X

I'll call that and raise you a Toyota Hilux.

116 Jaerik  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:39:38pm

re: #66 golgoth

Do these Farking people not read a newspaper? I know they have the internets, how can they not pick up a new article and see what the hell is going on.

In their pseudo-defense, Fox News has consistently failed to cover any of the various bills as they've come through each chamber of Congress. They've covered the entire thing as "Obamacare" from the beginning, apparently believing that the subtleties of the compromises and negotiations between the various half-dozen proposals are too boring or complex for their demographic to understand or care about.

It's a shame, too, because health reform is such a far-reaching and delicate operation, subtle details in the daily give-and-take can mean half a trillion dollars either way.

117 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:40:18pm

re: #115 laZardo

I'm such a Top Gear nerd, I totally knew that was the hilux-on-the-demolished-building thing :D

118 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:41:05pm

re: #111 Racer X

That was an EASY one, it was essentially free standing.
Used to have to travel to St. Louis a couple of times a year.
Stayed over many a weekend to see a building blown.
It's an art, and amazing to see.

119 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:41:06pm

Anyone know if there's a way to connect a Playstation 3 to an Apple Cinema Display?

120 Racer X  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:42:02pm
121 Girth  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:42:02pm

re: #119 Charles

Anyone know if there's a way to connect a Playstation 3 to an Apple Cinema Display?

I hate you.

/drool

122 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:42:57pm

re: #119 Charles

I'm lucky I can get the playstation 2 to play movies.

123 laZardo  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:43:27pm

re: #119 Charles

Anyone know if there's a way to connect a Playstation 3 to an Apple Cinema Display?

From what I can tell from initial Googling you will need some sort of scaler due to HDCP.

/I'm still in the SD age, unfortunately. ):

//Also, my PSN is LaZardo if you wanna add me. :D

124 laZardo  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:43:51pm

re: #123 laZardo

From Macrumors.com

125 Varek Raith  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:44:50pm

re: #119 Charles

Anyone know if there's a way to connect a Playstation 3 to an Apple Cinema Display?

A cursory search revealed this;

"alright, heres the deal. what you need to do is 1. buy a FEMALE DVI-D ( make sure its dvi-d not regular dvi) to MALE HDMI adapter. 2 insert the dvi-d port on your display into the adapter. if you need it to be a longer connection get a female hdmi to male hdmi. plug the HDMI end of the connector to the ps3 and whal la!!!"


No idea if it'll work, though.

126 Gus  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:45:10pm

Anyone know what #bplus is at Twitter? Looks like it's inhabited by morons.

127 Bagua  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:45:17pm

re: #122 Sharmuta

I'm lucky I can get the playstation 2 to play movies.

I'm still trying to figure out how to get the VHS player to stop blinking 12:00

128 Jaerik  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:45:25pm

re: #116 Jaerik

And before anyone calls me on it, the other side is guilty of the same thing. MSNBC has been pretty much over-simplifying the debate from their direction as well, cheerleading talking points like "the public option" but not going into the details of the various public plans. Some of which are hundreds of billions of dollars different from one another, and some which aren't really a public option at all.

Health care is really too complex of an argument for cable infotainment either way.

129 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:46:20pm

re: #114 Varek Raith

Yeah, Odom fancies himself a 'stealth activist'. Aka, a coward who gets others to do his dirty work.

That's for the Star Wars link. Very interesting things, from a SciFi geek perspective. Which is to say, my perspective.

130 laZardo  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:47:17pm

re: #117 WindUpBird

I'm such a Top Gear nerd, I totally knew that was the hilux-on-the-demolished-building thing :D

I just finished watching their latest. They need to make another of those seemingly-sensible car reviews because you never know where it'll end up.

131 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:48:00pm

re: #114 Varek Raith

Yeah, Odom fancies himself a 'stealth activist'. Aka, a coward who gets others to do his dirty work.

132 Girth  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:48:37pm

I think I've found a potentially fatal flaw in their plan:

So here’s the plan. On Tuesday, December 15 at 8:45 AM thousands of us will meet in Washington, DC at the fountain in Upper Senate Park.

Are thousands of tea-partiers really gonna show up in DC on a Tuesday morning to do this?

Oh, wait. Hannity can just show archive footage to make it look like thousands of people were there. Nevermind.

Carry on teabaggers.

Dumbasses.

133 Four More Tears  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:49:51pm

re: #131 Sharmuta

Updinged for my favorite AC/DC song (and singer).

134 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:49:52pm

Oh well. Looks like I'm out of luck connecting the PS3 to the Apple Cinema, unless I want to spend about $500 on various pieces of kludgy gear that wouldn't even allow true 1080p output.

Guess I'll just have to keep schlepping over to the HDTV when I want to play Arkham Asylum or GTA.

135 Bagua  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:49:57pm

Bagua's Music Break™


Gunshot

- Akron

136 laZardo  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:50:04pm

BBL, late lunch and maybe some Team Fortress 2. Cheers.

137 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:50:48pm

re: #133 JasonA

Updinged for my favorite AC/DC song (and singer).

I aim to please.

138 Racer X  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:51:40pm

re: #127 Bagua

I'm still trying to figure out how to get the VHS player to stop blinking 12:00

Easy -
First you need some black electrical tape.
Next, you . . . .

139 Bagua  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:56:29pm

Stand by Me (remix)


- All Saints

140 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:58:00pm

re: #138 Racer X

Nah, first you get a teenager,
explain what you want,
order a pizza,
Poof!
By the time the pizza arrives,
problem is solved!

141 palomino  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:58:51pm

I guess this really shouldn't be surprising. One of the teabaggers' favorite arguments justifying their ridiculous antics is that liberals have disrespectfully protested in the past. As if that standard were something to aspire to.

142 Four More Tears  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 9:58:52pm

Tangerine

143 Bagua  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 10:01:02pm

Gi Mi Dat

- Anthony B

144 avanti  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 10:05:10pm

re: #134 Charles

Oh well. Looks like I'm out of luck connecting the PS3 to the Apple Cinema, unless I want to spend about $500 on various pieces of kludgy gear that wouldn't even allow true 1080p output.

Guess I'll just have to keep schlepping over to the HDTV when I want to play Arkham Asylum or GTA.

Can you do it with one of the Slingbox products. I have one, and it allow me to watch my home satellite TV/DVR over the internet anywhere in the world on my laptop or cell phone. I know they also make a box that networks over your home AC wiring.

145 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 10:06:57pm

re: #138 Racer X

Easy -
First you need some black electrical tape.
Next, you . . .

Place the tape over Racer X's mouth...

/entirely kidding

146 Gus  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 10:08:29pm

What a joke. Eric Odom is claiming that Richard Scotti, chairman of the Clark County NV GOP resigned for undisclosed reasons amongst several other volunteer members. He actually resigned to work on gubernatorial candidate Brian Sandoval's campaign. Now's he's claiming "The Liberty movement took over the Clark County GOP." Doesn't even name any names from their own crackpot side.

147 Four More Tears  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 10:09:39pm

Mellow is the man
Who knows what he's been missing

148 Gus  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 10:11:34pm

re: #146 Gus 802

Although it sounds like Richard Scotti went over to the dark side anyway:

[Link: www.clarkgop.org...]

A federal government takeover of the health care system plainly violates the Constitution. Our federal government is acting against the will of the people, and in derogation of the consent granted to it in 1787. Our Constitution is being ignored, and we must speak out to stop this tyranny, and pray that our words will be enough.
149 Gus  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 10:11:55pm

Are they like giving out free Kool Aid at gas stations these days?

150 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 10:12:09pm

re: #148 Gus 802

Infighting is good.

151 Four More Tears  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 10:12:41pm

re: #149 Gus 802

Are they like giving out free Kool Aid at gas stations these days?

Oh Yeah!

(I honestly could not resist...)

152 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 10:13:44pm

re: #151 JasonA

Oh Yeah!

(I honestly could not resist...)

Your avatar even has a thumbs up!

153 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 10:13:59pm

re: #146 Gus 802

What a joke. Eric Odom is claiming that Richard Scotti, chairman of the Clark County NV GOP resigned for undisclosed reasons amongst several other volunteer members. He actually resigned to work on gubernatorial candidate Brian Sandoval's campaign. Now's he's claiming "The Liberty movement took over the Clark County GOP." Doesn't even name any names from their own crackpot side.

"The Clark County GOP ceased to be truly Republican and became instead Paulian. When that happened, the good thing that was the Clark County GOP was destroyed."

/Keeping with the whole Star Wars motif

154 Four More Tears  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 10:14:20pm

re: #152 Sharmuta

Your avatar even has a thumbs up!

All according to plan.

155 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 10:14:45pm

re: #148 Gus 802

re: #153 Dark_Falcon

GMTA

156 Gus  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 10:15:46pm

re: #153 Dark_Falcon

"The Clark County GOP ceased to be truly Republican and became instead Paulian. When that happened, the good thing that was the Clark County GOP was destroyed."

/Keeping with the whole Star Wars motif

It's sometimes like watching the punctuated bacterial evolution of the GOP. Not in a good way either. It still has the religious right and now they're mixing it up with the Paulians.

157 Jack Burton  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 10:19:22pm

re: #153 Dark_Falcon

"The Clark County GOP ceased to be truly Republican and became instead Paulian. When that happened, the good thing that was the Clark County GOP was destroyed."

/Keeping with the whole Star Wars motif

"It's more Paulian now than Conservative. Twisted and Kooky."

158 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 10:21:32pm

The shrieking harpy is getting noticed: Pamela Geller's Pretty Hate Machine.

159 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 10:23:48pm

re: #157 ArchangelMichael

Because everything I searched with
"kooky" was just, not right!

160 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 10:24:55pm

re: #157 ArchangelMichael

"It's more Paulian now than Conservative. Twisted and Kooky."

Given his support of tight-money policies, Ron Paul reminds me more of Viceroy Gunray of the Trade Federation. His foolish scheme serve only to cause chaos that could end up ruining th only effective opposition to the left in this country.

161 Jack Burton  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 10:25:02pm

re: #158 Charles

I'm sure she will be the next Newsmax columnist to "go too far" in short order. Not sure I'm happy with them taking NIN's masterpiece in vain to describe her though.

162 Gus  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 10:25:45pm

re: #158 Charles

The shrieking harpy is getting noticed: Pamela Geller's Pretty Hate Machine.

I'd say Newsmax jumped the shark but they started out with a shark right in front of them.

Don't look now but Newsmax is reporting about the Tea Party Die-In and it looks like Dick Armey is behind this.

163 Jack Burton  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 10:26:10pm

re: #160 Dark_Falcon

Given his support of tight-money policies, Ron Paul reminds me more of Viceroy Gunray of the Trade Federation. His foolish scheme serve only to cause chaos that could end up ruining th only effective opposition to the left in this country.

"This scheme of yours has failed Lord Paul..."

164 Girth  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 10:26:18pm

A federal government takeover of the health care system plainly violates the Constitution.

How does it plainly violate the Constitution? Of course it does not give Congress the power to do this, but since everything is interstate commerce and has been since the New Deal, that ship has sailed.

I agree in principle that Congress does not have that power, but that argument was lost sixty years ago. So where is this coming from now?

165 djughurknot  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 10:28:24pm

Good morning. Did I miss anything?

166 BruceKelly  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 10:28:51pm

re: #131 Sharmuta

I sometimes put DDDDC at the end of my name. Like a doctor.

167 Four More Tears  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 10:32:03pm

Mercury and May brought me to tears when I first heard it ages ago. Yeah, I'm a wuss.

168 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 10:33:32pm

re: #158 Charles

The shrieking harpy is getting noticed: Pamela Geller's Pretty Hate Machine.

WOW! Quite the expose. I hope he gets linked all over the place!

169 Gus  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 10:35:22pm

re: #164 Girth

A federal government takeover of the health care system plainly violates the Constitution.

How does it plainly violate the Constitution? Of course it does not give Congress the power to do this, but since everything is interstate commerce and has been since the New Deal, that ship has sailed.

I agree in principle that Congress does not have that power, but that argument was lost sixty years ago. So where is this coming from now?

I believe the tactic is to say that whatever you don't like in government that it violates the Constitution. Most of these people don't really believe in the Bill of Rights and other Clauses and on a strict reading of the original document. I'm sure that they didn't cover NASA, Social Security, Medicare, welfare, Patriot Act, NTSB and the FAA in the Constitution. Ron Paul always relates this and thinks the government should be in the business of doing anything. Another tactic they use is the meme of _______ is not a right. Where the blank space can be used to denote any noun or verb.

170 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 10:37:28pm

re: #168 Floral Giraffe

WOW! Quite the expose. I hope he gets linked all over the place!

I couldn't get it to load.

171 Jack Burton  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 10:41:08pm

re: #164 Girth

From people who:

A) Don't "get it" and think anything they don't like is automatically unconstitutional.

or

B) Don't accept stare decisis. There's a lot of crap I think is unconstitutional but even if I was in some theoretical place to do away with, I wouldn't. Further expansion of government size & scope is something I would fight but crying about something that's been a losing battle for 50-100 years is well... at best a waste of time and worst harmful. (Paulian's are all about this crap.)

That said, I would argue that the government has the right to regulate health care via interstate trade and commerce, but not to act as an insurance provider themselves anymore than they already do through the VA, Medicare, and Medicaid. With this regulatory power they probably should do away with 50 different sets of health care regulations for 50 states and have a national regulatory body. This would allow for that "buying across state lines" some on the right keep bringing up almost knee-jerk without of clue of just how impossible that is when states have their own regulations. I'm sure just doing this would be a herculean task that the House and Senate would most assuredly fuck up.

172 djughurknot  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 10:42:45pm

re: #169 Gus 802

Can't upding yet, but this is one that I'd sure like to.

173 Gus  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 10:43:50pm

re: #172 djughurknot

Can't upding yet, but this is one that I'd sure like to.

Thanks. Looks like you're about 9 comments away.

174 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 10:44:45pm

re: #170 Dark_Falcon

Try again?
My nic is blue, if you want me to copy it for you.
It's really, a good expose of the Shrieking Harpy.
Bikini bloggin' and all!

175 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 10:46:52pm

re: #174 Floral Giraffe

Try again?
My nic is blue, if you want me to copy it for you.
It's really, a good expose of the Shrieking Harpy.
Bikini bloggin' and all!

I think you've got my email already, FG. If so, please send it to me. If not, just let me know and I'll send you a message, because I have retained your email address.

176 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 10:47:25pm

Shrieking Harpy. I love that name.

177 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 10:47:30pm

Most people can't list the 5 rights enumerated in the First Amendment.

178 Four More Tears  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 10:48:28pm

re: #177 Sharmuta

Most people can't list the 5 rights enumerated in the First Amendment.

More people could name Jon and Kate's eight.

179 Girth  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 10:49:07pm

We're boned.

180 freetoken  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 10:50:52pm

re: #177 Sharmuta

Most people can't list the 5 rights enumerated in the First Amendment.

Freedom of speech
Freedom of the press
Freedom of religion
Freedom of assembly
Freedom to turn any thread into a boob thread.

/how'd I do?

181 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 10:51:31pm

re: #180 freetoken

/how'd I do?

Fail.

182 Four More Tears  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 10:51:34pm

re: #180 freetoken

I'll upding if you exercise that last one...

183 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 10:52:15pm

re: #172 djughurknot

Can't upding yet, but this is one that I'd sure like to.

Dinged it for you!

184 freetoken  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 10:52:15pm

re: #182 JasonA

I'll upding if you exercise that last one...

Ummm... I just did....

185 Four More Tears  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 10:53:30pm

re: #184 freetoken

But I don't see any.. oh nevermind.

186 Velvet Elvis  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 10:53:46pm

Copenhagen Climate Talks Suspended as Countries Walk Out in Chaos

The UN international climate change conference is in chaos as the G77, which represents 130 developing countries "pulled the emergency plug" suspending the talks over wealthy countries' reluctance to discuss a legally binding emissions treaty.

Jeremy Hobbs, Executive Director of Oxfam put out this statement:

Africa has pulled the emergency cord to avoid a train crash at the end of the week. Poor countries want to see an outcome which guarantees sharp emissions reductions yet rich countries are trying to delay discussions on the only mechanism we have to deliver this - the Kyoto Protocol.


This not about blocking the talks - it is about whether rich countries are ready to guarantee action on climate change and the survival or people in Africa and across the world.

"Australia and Japan are crying foul while blocking movement on legally binding emissions reductions for rich countries. This tit for tat approach is no way to deal with the climate crisis."

African countries have refused to continue negotiations unless talks on a second commitment period to the Kyoto Protocol are prioritized ahead of broader discussions under a second LCA track. Australia, Japan and others have succeeded in stopping Kyoto Protocol discussions as a result. Of the two tracks of negotiations underway in Copenhagen the Kyoto Protocol is the only one which includes a mechanism for legally binding emissions reductions by rich countries.

187 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 10:55:13pm

re: #175 Dark_Falcon

Sent!
(Forgot I had you email)
Hangs head in shame...

188 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 10:56:14pm

re: #187 Floral Giraffe

Sent!
(Forgot I had you email)
Hangs head in shame...

You're good. I just got it. Thanks much.

189 djughurknot  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 11:00:29pm

re: #183 Floral Giraffe

Why thank you. Soon I will emerge from my 50 post chrysalis, so...

*clacks fingers together*
*emits Mr. Burns laugh*

190 Girth  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 11:00:48pm

re: #186 Conservative Moonbat

I'm skeptical that anything is going to come out of Copenhagen, and not too sure I'd like anything that does.

191 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 11:02:51pm

re: #189 djughurknot

Ruh Roh.....
You gonna be ronery then?

192 freetoken  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 11:03:24pm

re: #185 JasonA

But I don't see any.. oh nevermind.

Well... if you insist, here is an example that demonstrates, in my understanding, all 5 of the (updated) enumerated rights.

/The Constitution is better appreciated in HighQuality.

193 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 11:05:14pm

re: #192 freetoken

LOL!
It's "unsuitable" for some users.
That must mean me!
LOL!

194 Jaerik  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 11:07:02pm

re: #169 Gus 802

I believe the tactic is to say that whatever you don't like in government that it violates the Constitution.

The Onion actually has my favorite commentary on the subject to date.

195 Surabaya Stew  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 11:08:19pm

Some days are meant for reading threads and not commenting on them. Today has been one of those scaly days. Thanks for keeping me informed & happy; good night, Lizards!

196 Gus  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 11:08:57pm

re: #194 Jaerik

The Onion actually has my favorite commentary on the subject to date.

Almost reads like something from a "real" blog.

197 ryannon  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 11:11:45pm

re: #157 ArchangelMichael

"It's more Paulian now than Conservative. Twisted and Kooky."

Someone say "Kooky"?

198 Bagua  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 11:15:57pm

re: #186 Conservative Moonbat

Copenhagen Climate Talks Suspended as Countries Walk Out in Chaos

Well, no surprise here, the G77 have been agitating right along. I can't say I oppose their position as they are simply refusing to go along with a farce that will do nothing to help them in face of the predicted risks.

199 Girth  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 11:17:06pm

re: #194 Jaerik

The Onion actually has my favorite commentary on the subject to date.

That's awesome.

According to sources who have read the nation's charter, the U.S. Constitution and its 27 amendments do not contain the word "God" or "Christ."

200 Bagua  Mon, Dec 14, 2009 11:21:41pm
UPDATE: 11:51 EST

Reuters reports that Africa has returned to the discussions after a half day suspension.

"We're going back," Pa Ousman Jarju from the delegation of Gambia, told Reuters after a meeting of the African group.

The protest held up a session due to start at 1030 GMT, just four days before a summit of 110 leaders aims to agree a U.N. pact to combat global warming that could bring more heatwaves, floods and rising sea levels.

He said that the Danish hosts gave assurances that there would be more focus on African nations' demands for an extension of the Kyoto Protocol, the existing pact for curbing emissions of greenhouse gases.

201 Dekar  Tue, Dec 15, 2009 4:04:01am

re: #134 Charles

Oh well. Looks like I'm out of luck connecting the PS3 to the Apple Cinema, unless I want to spend about $500 on various pieces of kludgy gear that wouldn't even allow true 1080p output.

Guess I'll just have to keep schlepping over to the HDTV when I want to play Arkham Asylum or GTA.

You need to get Modern Warfare 2 ASAP!!!

202 jayzee  Tue, Dec 15, 2009 4:07:39am

re: #14 Killgore Trout

Even I underestimated how mainstream they'd become. I still find it rather vexing.

I always feared it would happen. He has a wide fringe appeal, left and right, The left loved a republican that was antiwar and the right loved his affinity for neo Nazis, anti fed rhetoric, etc. The GOP should have knee capped him very early on. Ugliness usually spreads quickly sadly.

203 Kruk  Tue, Dec 15, 2009 4:14:24am

re: #79 JasonA

"Oh, I'm afraid the health care plan will be quite operational when the 2010 midterms arrive."

"Your over-confidence is your weakness."

"Your faith in your teabags is yours."

(And yes, I realise I just made the Teabaggers into Jedi. Kill me now.)

204 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Tue, Dec 15, 2009 5:52:31am

re: #28 Charles

If Glenn Beck and the right wing blogosphere had been around in World War II, we never would have developed the atomic bomb -- because they would have hounded the Truman administration to fire Robert Oppenheimer, director of the Manhattan Project, for his far left communist associations.

Just a thought.

What would they have made of Wernher von Braun?

Commies and Nazis and science, oh my!

205 butterick  Tue, Dec 15, 2009 6:02:10am

I thought the final barrier was inflated scrotum guy.

(no link - google it if you must)

206 Blueheron  Tue, Dec 15, 2009 8:41:09am

re: #7 Sharmuta

They really bought the myth these tactics worked for the left. It's killing the gop.


I agree with that. Code Pink is an excellent model for conservatives to emulate. ////

207 Blueheron  Tue, Dec 15, 2009 8:43:58am

re: #18 Basho

The point is that they're ignoramuses and want to demonstrate the fact that they have never spent time in any other country ever.


What does that have to do with anything. It is their government they don't trust.

208 Blueheron  Tue, Dec 15, 2009 8:49:50am

re: #41 Gus 802

This "die in" thing only proves that these Tea Party bumpkins are just getting crazier.

Yeah they are acting like the far left.:))

209 Blueheron  Tue, Dec 15, 2009 8:53:05am

re: #49 Bobibutu

If they had found out about it - maybe. The project was super secret. And Truman had the huevos, I think, to tell 'em to stuff it if they had.


Bingo! They don't make politicians like that anymore do they?

210 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Dec 15, 2009 9:00:06am

re: #204 negativ

What would they have made of Wernher von Braun?

Commies and Nazis and science, oh my!

I suspect they would have liked von Braun, but only if he was hired by a Republican administration.

211 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Dec 15, 2009 9:00:58am

re: #208 Blueheron

Yeah they are acting like the far left.:))

There's a reason why the far left doesn't get much done.

212 Blueheron  Tue, Dec 15, 2009 9:01:00am

re: #96 SanFranciscoZionist

All joking aside, yes. There has been an interesting lack of interest in what the health care plan actually calls for, amongst its opponents.


Okay what does the health care plan call for? None of us will know until it emerges from committee and heads for the Prez's desk. No?

213 Blueheron  Tue, Dec 15, 2009 9:03:03am

re: #98 Girth

Allow people to buy from large, nationwide insurance pools, then take a sledgehammer to the way healthcare is currently run. Make it more a la carte, with the options to buy as much coverage as you want.

The majority of care should be done by a quick visit to a nurse, who would then be able to offer simple treatment options for minor injuries and illnesses. If you feel you need to see a doctor, they're still there too of course, working on the more serious cases.

Redo the entire prescription drug system. Only addictive or particularly powerful drugs would require prescriptions. Pharmacists would play more of a role by discussing with customers different drug options.

Just my crazy idea that I kick around from time to time.


You still need doc's to write the proper prescription for you but to your other points I like it! :)

214 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Dec 15, 2009 9:03:27am

re: #212 Blueheron

Okay what does the health care plan call for? None of us will know until it emerges from committee and heads for the Prez's desk. No?

I'll tell you what the health care plan does NOT call for: a national health care plan. Which makes it rather interesting that all these folks are carrying on as though they expected to be stripped of their private insurance and sent off to a death panel at any moment.

215 Blueheron  Tue, Dec 15, 2009 9:04:03am

re: #101 Racer X

Anal Sunshine


[Video]

Do I want to click on this Racer? :/ lol

216 Blueheron  Tue, Dec 15, 2009 9:13:11am

re: #158 Charles

The shrieking harpy is getting noticed: Pamela Geller's Pretty Hate Machine.

I'm sorry. Don't know what you are talking about. I clicked on the Newsmax site once saw Pat Boone and immediately clicked off!

217 Stuart Leviton  Tue, Dec 15, 2009 9:29:04am

re: #34 Gus 802

Robert Oppenheimer, Fellow Traveler (Communist Student)
Albert Einstein, Socialist

And gratitude to Alan Turing the polymath who cracked Nazi secret codes.

Faced with prison in his native Britain for being homosexual, Turing accepted chemical castration. One year later, Turing swallowed cyanide, thus ending his brief but brilliant life. Alan Turing (Wikipedia)

218 Stuart Leviton  Tue, Dec 15, 2009 9:31:53am

The price tag for the Manhattan Project was $2 billion ($22 billion in todays terms). Does the Manhattan Project burden on the US economy exceed the relative burden of national health care?

219 Lanzman  Tue, Dec 15, 2009 10:50:31am

What's most instructive is watching to see who on the left, who supported these kinds of tactics as worthy and appropriate when done by "their side", will take extreme offense at the exact same tactics when practiced by the "other side".


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