Why I Left the Right, Exhibit T for Theocracy

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All of these videos are from last night’s “prayercast” in Washington DC, posted at Right Wing Watch.

Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Mars), James Dobson, and the completely insane Lou Engle, praying for health care reform to fail:

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Rep. Randy Forbes (R-Va.), Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council, and Lou Engle discuss how their public policy decisions are shaped by prayer:

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Rep. Todd Akin (R-Missouri) says the Bible should be the “blueprint” for our entire society:

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Pastor Jim Garlow says that health care reform violates almost all of the Ten Commandments:

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Shirley Dobson says the institution of marriage is on the verge of destruction, and James Dobson says, “I just pray that you will frustrate the plans of the Evil One and revive us again with conviction and forgiveness.”

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299 comments
1 Ojoe  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:33:18pm

Too weird for me.

2 reine.de.tout  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:33:46pm

re: #1 Ojoe

Too weird for me.

And me, too.

3 Gus  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:35:07pm

That does it! I'm moving to Mars!

...no, wait!...

/

4 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:36:13pm

Very scary, that these are our elected officials.
What happened to the seperation of Church & State?

5 wrenchwench  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:37:33pm

In the first one, at 28 seconds, as Bachmann says "we do not have clean hands," the guy to the right, who I think is Bishop Harry Jackson, lifts up his hands. I thought he was going to disagree.

6 Ojoe  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:37:57pm

Dolly Parton & Gospel Choir.


How it should be done.

7 arielle  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:40:34pm

That's a whole lotta bible thumpin'

8 bj  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:40:35pm

Oh, brother! This kind of thing is so tiring, so boring, so yuck ....

9 Sharmuta  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:40:35pm

It's interesting bachmann said America was worthy of God's wrath, but had a liberal said something like America wasn't perfect , bachmann would have accused them of being anti-American.

10 Bubblehead II  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:40:40pm

re: #4 Floral Giraffe

It's being sold off to the highest bidder. Whomever can bring in the largest block of voters will get the attention of these people.

11 Kragar  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:40:44pm

Oddily enough, the google ad directly under Charles post is offering to make me an ordained pastor for an online ministry, starting today.

12 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:41:19pm

From my profile
"I'm just a right wing refugee without a party to vote".

Looks like that will not be getting changed for the better any time soon.

13 Bubblehead II  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:41:39pm

re: #11 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Universal Life Church?

14 Randall Gross  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:41:43pm

I'd watch but I already know the full lying schtick of these power hungry busybodies.

15 Locker  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:42:20pm

"Evil One"... Fuckhead.

16 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:42:30pm

The plans of the evil one? Are they playing Dungeons & Dragons?

The idea of people running our country who think they're fighting monsters, it's chilling.

17 HAL2010  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:42:33pm

Haven't these people sworn an oath to uphold the constitution?

18 Ojoe  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:42:34pm

re: #12 Rightwingconspirator

ModernWhig dot Org

19 bj  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:43:13pm

They need some class Your text to link...

20 Kragar  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:43:37pm

re: #13 Bubblehead II

Universal Life Church?

Dont know, I'm not going to click it.

21 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:44:06pm

re: #15 Locker

"Evil One"... Fuckhead.

I fought the evil one, and all I got was this lousy sentient black runesword that keeps commanding me to lay waste to civilizations.

22 brookly red  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:44:29pm

re: #1 Ojoe

Too weird for me.

lemmie see...so if the health bill goes down in defeat then that would mean their prayers are answered, so then Howard Dean would then be... nope, too weird.

23 cliffster  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:44:30pm

My guess is that the people who vote for these guys aren't groaning as they pull the lever, "the God stuff creeps me out, but I really like his fiscal ideals".

24 Neutral President  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:44:46pm

re: #21 WindUpBird

I fought the evil one, and all I got was this lousy sentient black runesword that keeps commanding me to lay waste to civilizations.

Frostmourne?

25 Locker  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:44:57pm

re: #20 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Dont know, I'm not going to click it.

Ahaha I'm a minister for the Universal Life Church. You can get instantly ordained and print out your minister's certificate right away. Even allows you to perform marriages, etc. Well at least in California.

26 Randall Gross  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:45:04pm

re: #21 WindUpBird

I fought the evil one, and all I got was this lousy sentient black runesword that keeps commanding me to lay waste to civilizations.

You poor soul sucking bastard.

/ Moorcock fan I take it?

27 Locker  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:45:40pm

re: #21 WindUpBird

I fought the evil one, and all I got was this lousy sentient black runesword that keeps commanding me to lay waste to civilizations.

I had one of those once. The "lay waste" thing wasn't a big issue but the thing had an insatiable appetite for hostess cupcakes. It was maddening.

28 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:45:46pm

re: #20 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Dont know, I'm not going to click it.

On-line pastor? Cool..You could do on-line Marriages! The wave of the future..
/I'm thinking big bucks for the Gen Y group..All you need is a laptop

29 Kragar  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:45:52pm

re: #24 ArchangelMichael

Frostmourne?

Stormbringer

30 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:45:59pm

Yikes!

31 Sharmuta  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:46:07pm

re: #17 HAL2010

Haven't these people sworn an oath to uphold the constitution?

Did you link the Hitchens piece earlier? It was really good, and would be a perfect read to add to this thread.

32 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:46:47pm

re: #18 Ojoe

I am watching those guys. I check the site from time to time. Why they get so little traction or support is a shame. Who is their most famous or prominent face?

33 Gus  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:47:15pm

Bachmann at Anti-Health Care Bill Prayercast: Leaders Deserve God’s Wrath

The prayercast was not without its over-top-rhetoric. James Dobson referred to President Obama as the “Evil One.

“I just pray that you will frustrate the plans of the Evil One and revive us again with conviction and forgiveness,”

said Dobson.

34 HAL2010  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:47:16pm

re: #31 Sharmuta

Yeah I did.

Here it is:

In Defense of Foxhole Atheists

35 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:47:32pm

re: #24 ArchangelMichael

Frostmourne?

That's the Warcraft version! :D Go back to the source!

36 Sharmuta  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:47:39pm

re: #17 HAL2010

Haven't these people sworn an oath to uphold the constitution?

I'm also wondering if they've read the Bible- the part about praying alone in one's room...? Maybe?

37 reine.de.tout  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:47:53pm

re: #22 brookly red

lemmie see...so if the health bill goes down in defeat then that would mean their prayers are answered, so then Howard Dean would then be... nope, too weird.

I have a strong suspicion that God has a whole lot on His plate, and He really doesn't care one way or another what happens with the health care bill.

38 Velvet Elvis  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:48:02pm

re: #11 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Oddily enough, the google ad directly under Charles post is offering to make me an ordained pastor for an online ministry, starting today.

You don't have to pay for that. You can get ordained for free online at the Universal Life Church. I did.

[Link: www.themonastery.org...]

39 Four More Tears  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:48:28pm
Youtube Video
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40 [deleted]  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:48:42pm
41 HAL2010  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:49:00pm

re: #36 Sharmuta

I'm also wondering if they've read the Bible- the part about praying alone in one's room...? Maybe?

Religious extremism in any form is dangerous.

42 Ojoe  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:49:16pm

A recording of Pope John XXIII praying the angelus.

This is a prayer for everybody & it is simple.

in latin

43 SixDegrees  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:50:03pm
Pastor Jim Garlow says that health care reform violates almost all of the Ten Commandments

It do? Let's see... (Exodus 20:3–17)

3 Do not have any other gods before me.

Hard to see what this has to do with health care reform.

4 You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

Or this.

5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and the fourth generation of those who reject me,

6 but showing steadfast love to the thousandth generation of those who love me and keep my commandments.

7 You shall not make wrongful use of the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not acquit anyone who misuses his name.

This, either.

8 Remember the Sabbath day and keep it holy.

Health care related? I don't think so. Although it's pretty damn hard to get an appointment on the weekends unless it's an emergency.

9 For six days you shall labour and do all your work.

Ibid.

10 But the seventh day is a Sabbath to the Lord your God; you shall not do any work—you, your son or your daughter, your male or female slave, your livestock, or the alien resident in your towns.

11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but rested the seventh day; therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and consecrated it.

Ibid. Nothing so far.

12 Honor your father and your mother, so that your days may be long in the land that the Lord your God is giving you.

Well, dishonoring mom and dad would have been pretty unhealthy when I was growing up. I'll give this one a half-point.

13 You shall not murder.

A full point. Murder is very unhealthy, at least for the person being murdered.

14 You shall not commit adultery.

Another half-point. There's certainly a higher risk of STDs outside a monogamous relationship, not to mention the risk of getting hit with a gold club or thrown out of a truck while it's moving.

15 You shall not steal.

A half-point here, too, since the whole argument about health care involves rapidly escalating costs, and one of the solutions offered is to ferret out fraud.

16 You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

Not seeing a connection here.

17 You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or male or female slave, or ox, or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.

Or here, other than the already-noted fact that getting caught doing something you're not supposed to can lead to bodily harm. Half a point.

So that's, let's see, three points out of the ten, and that's being generous.

We can play a similar fun game comparing the Ten Commandments against the claim made by some fundamentalists that they form the basis for Western law and therefore ought to be nailed up behind every judge's bench. Especially that first one.

44 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:50:10pm

re: #37 reine.de.tout

I have a strong suspicion that God has a whole lot on His plate, and He really doesn't care one way or another what happens with the health care bill.

I know what He wants!

Youtube Video
45 Ojoe  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:50:18pm

re: #32 Rightwingconspirator

Nobody prominent yet. But it will be a stronger party for having started slowly.

BBL

46 Kragar  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:50:26pm

Watch, next thing we know, Obama will reveal his plans to have a giant flaming eye installed over the Washington monument. Then we'll see who is laughing then.

47 Bubblehead II  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:50:28pm

re: #25 Locker

Ordained since Tuesday, January 25th, 2000. Both marriage and burial in Idaho.

48 cliffster  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:50:53pm

re: #36 Sharmuta

I'm also wondering if they've read the Bible- the part about praying alone in one's room...? Maybe?

I had that same idea swirling around in my head too. Making a public spectacle of your faith marginalizes that faith, by my thinking. "Blessed is he who draws strength from the Lord PRIVATELY for the things he does publicly"

I made that up

49 HAL2010  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:51:24pm

So here is the link I posted earlier, it's Hitchens latest in Vanity Fair.

In Defense of Foxhole Atheists

It’s no secret that conservative Christians dominate the U.S. military, but when higher-ups start talking about conversion missions, it’s time to worry. The author meets a group of soldiers who aren’t having it.

50 sattv4u2  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:51:43pm

re: #28 HoosierHoops

On-line pastor? Cool..You could do on-line Marriages! The wave of the future..
/I'm thinking big bucks for the Gen Y group..All you need is a laptop

I was gonna do it, but I never liked working on Sundays

Interferes with the NFL, ya know!

51 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:52:10pm

re: #46 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Watch, next thing we know, Obama will reveal his plans to have a giant flaming eye installed over the Washington monument. Then we'll see who is laughing then.

ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha YES

Who gets to be the Mouth of Obama? I'm guessing Hillary.

"The Minority Leader was dear to thee..."

52 HAL2010  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:53:17pm

re: #46 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Watch, next thing we know, Obama will reveal his plans to have a giant flaming eye installed over the Washington monument. Then we'll see who is laughing then.

I heard he wanted that monument in Chicago, would have been lit in 2016.

53 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:53:44pm

re: #47 Bubblehead II

Ordained since Tuesday, January 25th, 2000. Both marriage and burial in Idaho.

We have to think bigger! On-line marriages is going to be the wave of the future..Web cams, Twittering the romantic promises, Virtual honeymoons..
Think big!
/

54 SixDegrees  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:54:05pm

re: #46 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Watch, next thing we know, Obama will reveal his plans to have a giant flaming eye installed over the Washington monument. Then we'll see who is laughing then.

Yeah. Ever since he discovered that Cheney's secret bunker is built over a huge lava flow, he's been a real ass that way.

55 Four More Tears  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:54:25pm

re: #53 HoosierHoops

We have to think bigger! On-line marriages is going to be the wave of the future..Web cams, Twittering the romantic promises, Virtual honeymoons..
Think big!
/

Only if it's limited to a man and a woman!

56 Gus  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:55:04pm
Overall, the event provided a good look at the theocratic right, about which we'll have more to write tomorrow. Guests included -- either live, by phone, or on pre-recorded video...

Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC)
Sen. Sam Brownback (R-KS)
Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN)
Rep. Randy Forbes (R-VA)
Rep. Todd Akin (R-MO) and others...

The pattern emerges! /

57 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:55:37pm

re: #55 JasonA

Only if it's limited to a man and a woman!

What do you have against Tiger Woods?

58 Sharmuta  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:56:10pm

One of the reasons I have been critical of militant islam is because of the theocracy (among other things). I'm not comfortable with anyone dictating to me about my relationship with God, or with any one else's. It's a private matter and it's completely against all that I hold dear as an American. So to see my political party morph into the Christian variant is highly disturbing.

I mean- for them personally- they want to have their relationship with God be like what we see here... that's all fine and good for them. They have that freedom. What they don't have the freedom to do is use their office to evangelize the rest of us. I really don't appreciate bringing faith into the political sphere. You start calling things missions from God more and more frequently, then you water down God's worth.

59 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:56:10pm

re: #44 WindUpBird

Up ding and I owe you one for getting Roger Waters in my head and those craven "prayers" out.

60 Kragar  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:56:18pm

Great, I can just picture Jindal and Huckabee pledging their bow and axe to the fellowship now.

61 Four More Tears  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:56:23pm

re: #57 HoosierHoops

What do you have against Tiger Woods?

Bastard's had more tail than a pride o' lions.

62 brookly red  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:57:24pm

re: #53 HoosierHoops

We have to think bigger! On-line marriages is going to be the wave of the future..Web cams, Twittering the romantic promises, Virtual honeymoons..
Think big!
/

I don't think virtual honeymoons are going to be a big seller...

63 Four More Tears  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:58:36pm

re: #62 brookly red

I don't think virtual honeymoons are going to be a big seller...

Never been to Second Life, have you?

64 SixDegrees  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:58:36pm

re: #62 brookly red

I don't think virtual honeymoons are going to be a big seller...

There's a lot of porn on the Internet to choose from.

Or so I've been told.

65 Petero1818  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:59:15pm

Holy Crap!
I want to thank you Lord, for the fact that I am Canadian. Lord, I want to thank you for allowing a Canadian Jew like me to watch this insanity as an objective outsider, and for making sure that these lunatics cannot impact my life.

66 Decatur Deb  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:59:25pm

re: #62 brookly red

I don't think virtual honeymoons are going to be a big seller...

You haven't seen the multi-axis simulator.

67 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 2:59:37pm

re: #62 brookly red

I don't think virtual honeymoons are going to be a big seller...

That didn't come out right...My friends just got married and went to Rome..
Real time on a web page for the family to enjoy would be awesome..Not the sex...get out of the gutter!
*wink*

68 ryannon  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:00:33pm

re: #11 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Oddily enough, the google ad directly under Charles post is offering to make me an ordained pastor for an online ministry, starting today.

Does Charles get a cut?

69 Bagua  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:00:49pm

Separation of Church and State is fundamental to the American political system, as has been upheld by the Supreme Court.

However, there is no prohibition against expressing religious beliefs on a personal level.

70 brookly red  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:01:10pm

re: #63 JasonA

Never been to Second Life, have you?

No, having enough trouble with the first one...

71 Sharmuta  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:02:02pm

re: #70 brookly red

LOL

72 ryannon  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:02:59pm

re: #17 HAL2010

Haven't these people sworn an oath to uphold the constitution?

"One Nation, Under God!"

Isn't that in the Constitution?

Well, it should be.

I mean, that's certainly what they meant.

I'm sure that's what they meant.

Must have forgotten to put it in.

73 sattv4u2  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:03:32pm

re: #70 brookly red

No, having enough trouble with the first one...

You need that bumper sticker

"Born Right The First Time"

74 Bubblehead II  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:04:08pm

re: #53 HoosierHoops

Your a little late. It's already being done.

Get Married Online!

But even this is behind the times.

Carry Grant in Father Goose

Married over the radio.

75 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:05:15pm

re: #74 Bubblehead II

Your a little late. It's already being done.

Get Married Online!

But even this is behind the times.

Carry Grant in Father Goose

Married over the radio.

Wasn't that a wonderful movie? I forgot about that...

76 zeir  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:05:55pm

I don't know, I found the first prayer sort of moving...

77 Killgore Trout  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:08:52pm

The next Tea Party hero...
Wikipedia Is A Pro-Obama, Tax-Exempt Scam, Senate Candidate Andy Martin Claims

Andy Martin, a U.S. senate candidate, has hit Wikipedia and Wikimedia with a fraud lawsuit, alleging the two foundations are running "a tax-exempt protosocialist scam that seeks to harass Republicans, conservatives and Obama opponents."

Martin, described as an "Internet Powerhouse" in the press release regarding his lawsuit, is seeking an injunction against the two online organizations, which he's labeled as "anti-conservative, anti-Republican and anti-Obama opponent smear operations."

Martin's press release, which notes that he will be attending a conference on Barack Obama's Missing Birth Certificate and College Records,
....
Andy Martin's Wikipedia entry describes him as a "vexatious litigant" and "perennial candidate." The entry notes that he asserts that "Obama's real father is not Barack Obama Sr., but is Frank Marshall Davis, an African American journalist of the 1950s."

78 Ayeless in Ghazi  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:09:05pm

Prayer is so much more effective than that voting/campaigning hocus-pocus practiced by the unsaved. Voting/campaigning is a sign of weak faith /.

The more I think about it, the more I'm inclined towards the idea that the religious right should be encouraged in this belief that prayer shapes policy.

79 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:09:19pm

Speaking of prayers..If you are of the type.. Say a prayer for the passing of Chris Henry tonight..For the comfort of his friends and family.. A troubled young man that was a beautiful athlete...
Lord comfort his family and 3 children..Such a loss

80 schnapp  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:09:24pm

Charles
Have you also parted ways with the views of people like Oriana Fallaci and Danial Pipes?

81 cliffster  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:09:30pm

Houston Public Prayer Addresses Gay Candidate

I guess God disagreed.

82 sattv4u2  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:09:49pm

re: #76 zeir

I don't know, I found the first prayer sort of moving...

I don't think "content" is an issue

VENUE is

You want to pray that you favorite team wins tonight, knock yourself out
You want to pray that you get that promotion? Have at it

IN a house of worship or IN private with your group

83 Bubblehead II  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:10:30pm

re: #75 HoosierHoops

It was a pretty good comedy. I liked it when they thought she had been bitten by the snake and he got her drunk to ease her passing, only to find out it was branch with thorns that had caused the puncture wounds.

That and his philosophy about suits and ties.

84 brookly red  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:13:06pm

re: #82 sattv4u2

I don't think "content" is an issue

VENUE is

You want to pray that you favorite team wins tonight, knock yourself out
You want to pray that you get that promotion? Have at it

IN a house of worship or IN private with your group

/... and Lord if you can stop Vista from freezing...

85 Sharmuta  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:13:09pm

re: #79 HoosierHoops

Speaking of prayers..If you are of the type.. Say a prayer for the passing of Chris Henry tonight..For the comfort of his friends and family.. A troubled young man that was a beautiful athlete...
Lord comfort his family and 3 children..Such a loss

A very sad story.

86 Killgore Trout  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:13:23pm

Chuck Norris: Mary Might Have Aborted Jesus Christ Under ObamaCare/'Herodcare'

In his latest syndicated column, Chuck Norris wonders if the Obama health care plan would have resulted in some dire consequences if it had been around in times past: Namely the abortion of Jesus Christ Himself, under the regime of "Herodcare."


*sigh*

87 ryannon  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:14:05pm

re: #80 schnapp

Charles
Have you also parted ways with the views of people like Oriana Fallaci and Danial Pipes?

I sense this is almost a rhetorical question.

Would you care to develop it?

88 sattv4u2  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:14:27pm

re: #84 brookly red

/... and Lord if you can stop Vista from freezing...

You would think with all this Global Warming, it wouldn't!
/

89 Sharmuta  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:14:31pm

re: #86 Killgore Trout

What if Mary had had twins?

90 cliffster  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:14:41pm

re: #79 HoosierHoops

Speaking of prayers..If you are of the type.. Say a prayer for the passing of Chris Henry tonight..For the comfort of his friends and family.. A troubled young man that was a beautiful athlete...
Lord comfort his family and 3 children..Such a loss

Knee-jerk reaction was, "wow, he was taken home right after he started turning things around." Really though, how great that he was given a chance to turn things around..

91 schnapp  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:14:56pm

re: #87 ryannon
It's not. Just curious.

92 researchok  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:15:18pm

I listened to 4 out the 5 videos before I said 'No mas'. These people are nuts.

Prayers to govern wisely are one thing. Prayers to facilitate the downfall and eradication of political opponents are quite another.

93 Gus  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:15:27pm

re: #77 Killgore Trout

The next Tea Party hero...
Wikipedia Is A Pro-Obama, Tax-Exempt Scam, Senate Candidate Andy Martin Claims

Who this guy?

Frank Martin - The Man Behind the Whispers About Obama

...

He prepared to run as a Democrat for Congress in Connecticut, where paperwork for one of his campaign committees listed as one purpose “to exterminate Jew power.” He ran as a Republican for the Florida State Senate and the United States Senate in Illinois. When running for president in 1999, he aired a television advertisement in New Hampshire that accused George W. Bush of using cocaine.

...

A motion he filed in a 1983 bankruptcy case called the judge “a crooked, slimy Jew who has a history of lying and thieving common to members of his race.”

...

When asked Friday about an assertion in his court papers that “Jews, historically and in daily living, act through clans and in wolf pack syndrome,” he said, “That one sort of rings a bell.”

He said he was not anti-Semitic. “I was trying to show that everybody in the bankruptcy court was Jewish and I was not Jewish,” he said, “and I was being victimized by religious bias.”

...

94 Four More Tears  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:15:56pm

re: #86 Killgore Trout

And maybe Klara Hitler would've had one too. We can play this game all day.

95 Killgore Trout  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:16:01pm

re: #80 schnapp

I can't speak for anyone else but I gave up on her after she called for the destruction of mosques.

96 RogueOne  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:16:11pm

re: #69 Bagua

Separation of Church and State is fundamental to the American political system, as has been upheld by the Supreme Court.

However, there is no prohibition against expressing religious beliefs on a personal level.

Nor is there any prohibition of expressing religious beliefs in an official level, the prohibition is only "...make no law respecting an establishment of religion". Of course, that's where the good arguments come in.

I don't have a lot of time to argue but there are a lot of comments, especially on the last thread, that I found a little disturbing and I'm finding it odd that an atheist like myself is going to have to be the one to defend people's first amendment rights.

97 Charles Johnson  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:16:45pm

re: #86 Killgore Trout

Chuck Norris: Mary Might Have Aborted Jesus Christ Under ObamaCare/'Herodcare'


*sigh*

Wow. That's just incredibly embarrassing.

Does Norris even realize that abortion has been around for as long as recorded history? If Mary had wanted an abortion, she could have had one even in the year zero AD.

It's just amazing how crazy and irrational the right wing has gotten.

98 cliffster  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:16:52pm

re: #86 Killgore Trout

Wow. I can't think of anything more contrary to the idea of a supremely powerful God. Mary did what?? Me-dammit, I didn't think of that one!

99 albusteve  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:17:07pm

re: #90 cliffster

Knee-jerk reaction was, "wow, he was taken home right after he started turning things around." Really though, how great that he was given a chance to turn things around..

he was blazing fast with good hands....worth a fortune in the NFL

100 Ayeless in Ghazi  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:17:07pm

re: #86 Killgore Trout

Chuck Norris: Mary Might Have Aborted Jesus Christ Under ObamaCare/'Herodcare'


*sigh*

lol. Isn't it just the tiniest bit heretical to think that Mary, 'who was without sin' etc, would have had an abortion given half a chance? I can see a lot of people having some fun with this.

101 Killgore Trout  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:17:20pm

re: #93 Gus 802

to exterminate Jew power.”


Yikes!

102 ryannon  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:17:51pm

re: #97 Charles

Wow. That's just incredibly embarrassing.

Does Norris even realize that abortion has been around for as long as recorded history? If Mary had wanted an abortion, she could have had one even in the year zero AD.

It's just amazing how crazy and irrational the right wing has gotten.

At least he didn't mention birth-control clinics.

103 RogueOne  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:17:52pm

What I really wanted to mention, but it's waay OT, is did anyone see what Al Franken did to Lieberman today? That is not the way to get Lieberman on their side.

104 schnapp  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:18:08pm

re: #95 Killgore Trout

I can't speak for anyone else but I gave up on her after she called for the destruction of mosques.

Did she really? That's a pity.

105 Gus  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:18:14pm

re: #101 Killgore Trout

Yikes!

Yep. He's now running as a Republican.

There's more! He was on Hannity:

Youtube Video
106 RogueOne  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:18:45pm

Sorry to hit and run people but I gotta go. Beat me up if you'd like in my absence and I'll try to get back later.

107 SixDegrees  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:18:47pm

re: #86 Killgore Trout

Doesn't say much about his faith in God's power, now, does it?

108 Killgore Trout  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:19:00pm

re: #97 Charles

It's all terribly embarrassing to me. It doesn't stop, one stupid thing after another. It's just mind boggling.

109 sattv4u2  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:20:06pm

re: #103 RogueOne

What I really wanted to mention, but it's waay OT, is did anyone see what Al Franken did to Lieberman today? That is not the way to get Lieberman on their side.

He didn't approach Lieberman as Staurt Smalley, did he?
THAT would have been torture!

110 Jetpilot1101  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:22:03pm

The Christian Right is too focused on achieveing a theocracy to realize it would be the absolute worst thing to ever happen to America since it's founding. The problem lies in their inability to think past the next election and realize that the theocracy they want to usher in may not always be ruled by "Christians" but coud at some point in time be ruled by Muslims. Separation of church and state was written into the constitution for a reason; namely that the founding fathers did not want to go back to a system of government that their forefathers had fled from. I have no problem with God and prayer being a part of someone's life decisions, but the moment they use their position of political power to evangelize, I draw the line.

Jesus Christ never had an R or a D after his name. Why is this so hard to comprehend.?

111 Four More Tears  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:22:11pm

This one goes to all you disenfranchised Republicans out there.

Youtube Video
112 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:22:22pm

re: #90 cliffster

Knee-jerk reaction was, "wow, he was taken home right after he started turning things around." Really though, how great that he was given a chance to turn things around..

I feel for his children..I understand his anger...I was a very very angry young man...But for the grace of God there go I...Rest in Peace Chris

113 Gus  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:22:41pm

re: #105 Gus 802

This guy is a well of insanity:

Andy Martin at SPLC:

Extremism in the Media

Fox News Channel admitted that it went too far when it booked anti-Semitic serial litigant Andy Martin for an appearance on the Oct. 5 edition of "Hannity's America." Host Sean Hannity introduced Martin as an "Internet journalist" who made what Hannity called "the explosive claim that [then-Sen. Barack] Obama's role as a community organizer was a political staging ground perpetuated by the unrepentant terrorist William Ayers."

Prior to his appearance on a prime-time Fox News special, Hannity's guest was best known as an unsuccessful candidate for political office in three states with a history of making anti-Semitic comments in the literally hundreds of lawsuits he's filed against attorneys, judges, court officials and other individuals. In one of his lawsuits, Martin called the judge a "crooked, slimy Jew." In another he wrote, "I am able to understand how the Holocaust took place, and with every passing day feel less and less sorry that it did."

...

114 Jetpilot1101  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:23:24pm

re: #103 RogueOne

What I really wanted to mention, but it's waay OT, is did anyone see what Al Franken did to Lieberman today? That is not the way to get Lieberman on their side.

Franken has absolutely no class and obviously no comprehension of how the Senate is supposed to function. The man is an embarassment to his office.

115 schnapp  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:23:32pm

I'm glad the Australian right hasn't gone nuts.

116 brookly red  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:23:41pm

re: #109 sattv4u2

He didn't approach Lieberman as Staurt Smalley, did he?
THAT would have been torture!

/they got a Sargent At Arms or something just in case something like that should arise...

117 Bubblehead II  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:23:58pm

re: #97 Charles

Was just Googling that very topic. Seems there were many herbs that could cause a miscarriage if ingested early enough.

And they were known in biblical times.

118 sattv4u2  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:24:27pm

re: #111 JasonA

This one goes to all you disenfranchised Republicans out there.

[Video]

So does this one

Youtube Video
119 SixDegrees  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:24:57pm

re: #108 Killgore Trout

It's all terribly embarrassing to me. It doesn't stop, one stupid thing after another. It's just mind boggling.

Frankly, KT, you go out of your way to spend your days wallowing in it. It's easy, I suppose, to start believing that the entire world is crazy when you spend all your time with your face pressed against the safety glass. But the Internet isn't the real world, and I'd have to swing a cat pretty hard to hit anyone at all who professes some of the bilge seen here in real life.

120 sattv4u2  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:26:47pm

re: #108 Killgore Trout

It's all terribly embarrassing to me. It doesn't stop, one stupid thing after another. It's just mind boggling.

Why is it "terribly embarrassing to" you? Were you part of it? Did you organize it and it got away from you? What stake did you have in it that it would "embarrass" you?

121 Charles Johnson  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:26:49pm

re: #119 SixDegrees

But the Internet isn't the real world, and I'd have to swing a cat pretty hard to hit anyone at all who professes some of the bilge seen here in real life.

Uh ... the people in the videos above are some of the top GOP politicians in America.

122 Killgore Trout  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:26:56pm

re: #117 Bubblehead II

This is a handy link....
Roman Catholicism and abortion access
Pagan & Christian beliefs 400 BCE -1980 CE

Christians have had various beliefs about abortion throughout history.

123 albusteve  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:27:32pm

re: #110 Jetpilot1101

The Christian Right is too focused on achieveing a theocracy to realize it would be the absolute worst thing to ever happen to America since it's founding. The problem lies in their inability to think past the next election and realize that the theocracy they want to usher in may not always be ruled by "Christians" but coud at some point in time be ruled by Muslims. Separation of church and state was written into the constitution for a reason; namely that the founding fathers did not want to go back to a system of government that their forefathers had fled from. I have no problem with God and prayer being a part of someone's life decisions, but the moment they use their position of political power to evangelize, I draw the line.

Jesus Christ never had an R or a D after his name. Why is this so hard to comprehend.?

it may be a nearly universal appeal to a higher order of things and the righteousness in the pursuit of something they see as more perfect...I dunno really....it makes me wretch thinking about it...I'd turn into a flaming lib before I'd endorse ant kind of veiled theocrcy

124 brookly red  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:29:04pm

re: #123 albusteve

it may be a nearly universal appeal to a higher order of things and the righteousness in the pursuit of something they see as more perfect...I dunno really...it makes me wretch thinking about it...I'd turn into a flaming lib before I'd endorse ant kind of veiled theocrcy

the veil has lifted.

125 Bubblehead II  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:29:10pm

re: #122 Killgore Trout

This is a handy link...
Roman Catholicism and abortion access
Pagan & Christian beliefs 400 BCE -1980 CE

Christians have had various beliefs about abortion everything throughout history.

FTFY

126 Killgore Trout  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:29:22pm

re: #120 sattv4u2

What stake did you have in it that it would "embarrass" you?


As an American citizen I find this terribly embarrassing. It's a shame to see a substantial portion of our country touting stupid conspiracies and advocating backwards theological forms of government.

127 ryannon  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:29:23pm

re: #95 Killgore Trout

I can't speak for anyone else but I gave up on her after she called for the destruction of mosques.

I don't recall reading that in "The Rage and the Pride."

A 'building' used as a mosque in Verona was demolished and the area renamed Oriana Fallaci Square by the Lega Nord mayor, but I haven't been able to find any other link supporting what you said above....

Just wonderin'

128 Jaerik  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:30:23pm

Should have inclined the now-famous clip of Huckabee saying that the Constitution should be changed to conform to God's law.

129 SixDegrees  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:30:26pm

re: #121 Charles

Uh ... the people in the videos above are some of the top GOP politicians in America.

So? Honestly, I've never run across anyone like them in ordinary life. I have no doubt they're every bit as looney as they appear here, on a regular basis. But out of the hundreds and even thousands of people I interact with every month, I've yet to run across such behavior.

The Internet tends to distill things selectively, and make the things it selects loom much larger than they really are. It's fun, and all, but it isn't a very good reflection of reality.

130 Stanghazi  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:30:41pm

Uh, re: the Franken thing. Before everyone goes off based on only partial info, apparently he did the same for a Dem rep, and was on orders to keep all talk to 10 minutes. Only because it was Lieberman did it make the "news".

Back to the subject at hand....

131 sattv4u2  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:31:58pm

re: #126 Killgore Trout

As an American citizen I find this terribly embarrassing. It's a shame to see a substantial portion of our country touting stupid conspiracies and advocating backwards theological forms of government.

Fair enough. So were/are you equally embarrassed by all the vitriol aimed at Cheney and Bush? Are you "embarrassed" when people run on stage to try to throw pies at invited speakers?

132 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:31:59pm

re: #9 Sharmuta

It's interesting bachmann said America was worthy of God's wrath, but had a liberal said something like America wasn't perfect , bachmann would have accused them of being anti-American.

Yeah. One has to wonder.

133 cliffster  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:32:51pm

re: #132 SanFranciscoZionist

Yeah. One has to wonder.

Wow, this thread must be getting old. SFZ is commenting on the early posts. //

134 albusteve  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:32:58pm

I agree with KT 100%...again

135 researchok  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:33:58pm

re: #131 sattv4u2

Fair enough. So were/are you equally embarrassed by all the vitriol aimed at Cheney and Bush? Are you "embarrassed" when people run on stage to try to throw pies at invited speakers?

Stupid is the ultimate affirmative action trait. it makes no political distinctions.

136 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:34:18pm

re: #33 Gus 802

Bachmann at Anti-Health Care Bill Prayercast: Leaders Deserve God’s Wrath

Oh, wait. OBAMA is the Evil One? I thought they were talking about Satan.

137 schnapp  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:35:00pm

re: #127 ryannon

Oriana Fallaci was held in high regard before. I hope she didn't advocate anything like that. But what about Daniel Pipes? Haven't heard much about him on here recently.

138 researchok  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:36:26pm

re: #137 schnapp

Oriana Fallaci was held in high regard before. I hope she didn't advocate anything like that. But what about Daniel Pipes? Haven't heard much about him on here recently.

Re Fallaci, sometimes you can be too passionate and get carried away.

That said, she should have known better.

139 sattv4u2  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:37:24pm

K ,,,, I'm out ,,,,

140 ryannon  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:38:48pm

re: #120 sattv4u2

Why is it "terribly embarrassing to" you? Were you part of it? Did you organize it and it got away from you? What stake did you have in it that it would "embarrass" you?

Machine guns are roaring
The puppets heave rocks
At misunderstood visions
And at the faces of clocks
Call me any name you like
I will never deny it
But farewell Angelina
The sky is errupting
And I must go where it is quiet

Youtube Video
141 humpty dumpty was pushed  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:39:31pm

re: #58 Sharmuta

Well said. For some reason the karma button doesn`t work for me today, but BIG UPDING.

142 reine.de.tout  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:39:55pm

re: #136 SanFranciscoZionist

Oh, wait. OBAMA is the Evil One? I thought they were talking about Satan.

I thought so too.

143 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:40:47pm

Looks like this is a job for GOP Jesus...

Image: n645708799_1268145_817.jpg

144 Sharmuta  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:40:51pm

re: #141 humpty dumpty was pushed

Thanks. :)

145 Decatur Deb  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:41:02pm

re: #136 SanFranciscoZionist

Oh, wait. OBAMA is the Evil One? I thought they were talking about Satan.

Don't be silly. Satan is an entrepreneur.

Youtube Video
146 windsagio  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:41:03pm

re: #129 SixDegrees

let me lend you some of my relatives!

re: #131 sattv4u2

aah; false equivalency... Thats the goto for this kinda thing, innit?

147 Basho  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:41:09pm

Can someone explain why these christians would be against health care reform?

148 Bagua  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:41:26pm

re: #141 humpty dumpty was pushed

Well said. For some reason the karma button doesn`t work for me today, but BIG UPDING.

I've modified your karma button so that you can only upding Bagua.

149 humpty dumpty was pushed  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:42:18pm

re: #148 Bagua

Lol. Thanks?

150 Sharmuta  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:42:19pm

re: #147 Basho

Can someone explain why these christians would be against health care reform?

Because the conservative Bible says charity is from communists.

151 Sharmuta  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:42:42pm

re: #149 humpty dumpty was pushed

Try refreshing the page- sometimes that helps.

152 ryannon  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:42:50pm

re: #138 researchok

Re Fallaci, sometimes you can be too passionate and get carried away.

That said, she should have known better.

She could get passionate, and certainly did.

I still don't see any evidence of her advocating the destruction of mosques.

153 albusteve  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:42:59pm

the problem is not the babbling religious right spewing, anybody can do that and they will...it's their right to be irresponsible, that part cannot be stopped, but they can be stopped from holding office and there is the problem...information and how it's spread across the country...flyover America is probably pretty naive and if you told them their favorite pol endorses a theocratic style govt, they might say good!...we need more Christian values expressed in this country....that's the problem as I see it....too few people truly understand the dynamic sweeping the GOP...it's hard to tell if it's mainstream or if it is what the effect will be...there is no stopping these people, even if they are defeated at the poles...that will only strengthen their determination....looks bad out there to me

154 Girth  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:43:00pm

re: #143 ausador

Looks like this is a job for GOP Jesus...

[Link: i603.photobucket.com...]

Jesus weren't no librul hippie commie walkin' 'round forgivin' people!

155 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:43:34pm

re: #69 Bagua

Separation of Church and State is fundamental to the American political system, as has been upheld by the Supreme Court.

However, there is no prohibition against expressing religious beliefs on a personal level.

I think this is more a matter of taste and propriety than legality.

156 humpty dumpty was pushed  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:43:56pm

re: #151 Sharmuta

Thanks!

157 cliffster  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:44:09pm

re: #149 humpty dumpty was pushed

If you log in after the comments have shown, only new comments have enabled dingers. The ones there before are disabled - sorry, no dingie. Unless you refresh, then it's dingtime.

158 Bagua  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:44:13pm

re: #151 Sharmuta

Try refreshing the page- sometimes that helps.

The page has that "not so fresh feeling".

159 SixDegrees  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:44:22pm

re: #129 SixDegrees

And, of course, I have Detroit politics to hold all these excesses up against.

The two reporters who broke the story of Kwame Kilpatrick's text messaging scandal that ultimately drove him from office and won them a Pulitzer have published a small book of his sayings.

They call it the Kwame Sutra.

160 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:44:35pm

re: #79 HoosierHoops

Speaking of prayers..If you are of the type.. Say a prayer for the passing of Chris Henry tonight..For the comfort of his friends and family.. A troubled young man that was a beautiful athlete...
Lord comfort his family and 3 children..Such a loss

Three kids? I didn't know that. And he was in his mid-twenties. A real loss to his loved ones.

161 windsagio  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:44:49pm

re: #153 albusteve

well they'll continue to have their influence and margian shrink, either until the media outlets involved quit making money off of it and get cancelled, or until, well, 'something bad' happens.

I agree tho', losing will only make them pump up their rhetoric.

163 Basho  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:45:06pm

re: #156 humpty dumpty was pushed

Why would someone push Humpty Dumpty?? :(

164 windsagio  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:45:27pm

re: #163 Basho

A Socialist!

165 Sharmuta  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:45:40pm

re: #156 humpty dumpty was pushed

No problem.

166 MtnCat  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:45:51pm

Seems appropriate,
"Beware of the teachers of the law. They like to walk around in flowing robes and love to be greeted in the marketplaces and have the most important seats in the synagogues and the places of honor at banquets" (Luke 20:46).
Whatever happened to praying in private?

167 Killgore Trout  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:45:55pm

re: #131 sattv4u2

So were/are you equally embarrassed by all the vitriol aimed at Cheney and Bush?


Yes, I was here posting about it, asshole.

168 Four More Tears  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:46:05pm

Jesus on a dinosaur.

169 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:46:11pm

re: #147 Basho

Can someone explain why these christians would be against health care reform?

No, mainly because even they cannot honestly explain it, If you put a microphone in their face and asked them all you'd get was some mixed up disjointed Tea Party talking points. They don't have to understand it to know that it is bad, FOX told them it was, what more do they need to know?

170 windsagio  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:46:13pm

re: #164 windsagio

or "A muslim!"

or "A Jew!"

171 cliffster  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:46:15pm

re: #158 Bagua

The page has that "not so fresh feeling".

Awfully chipper aren't we? Still glowing after a nooner? ;)

172 reine.de.tout  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:46:32pm

re: #131 sattv4u2

Fair enough. So were/are you equally embarrassed by all the vitriol aimed at Cheney and Bush? Are you "embarrassed" when people run on stage to try to throw pies at invited speakers?

Aw, satt, my dearest darlin' -- please don't.
That sort of question never leads anywhere . . .

173 Bagua  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:46:36pm

re: #155 SanFranciscoZionist

I think this is more a matter of taste and propriety than legality.

Agreed, though it is a thorny issue that has come before the Supreme Court on numerous occasions.

Personally I find politicians making public displays of their beliefs distasteful, regardless of the Religion.

174 brookly red  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:47:03pm

re: #148 Bagua

I've modified your karma button so that you can only upding Bagua.

I will not make an ACORN joke, I will not make an ACORN joke, I will not make...

175 MandyManners  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:47:05pm

re: #163 Basho

Why would someone push Humpty Dumpty?? :(

To give all the king's horses and all the king's men something to do.

176 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:47:24pm

re: #86 Killgore Trout

Chuck Norris: Mary Might Have Aborted Jesus Christ Under ObamaCare/'Herodcare'


*sigh*


That's blasphemous. Mary agreed to become the Mother of God of her free will. To suggest that she might have aborted if it were legal and available to her presumes that she was forced into this role. More, it presumes that Christ's birth could have come about through forcing a young woman to act against her will.

Chuck needs to learn some goddamn theology.

177 Basho  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:48:28pm

re: #169 ausador

Thanks that's what I thought. I didn't understand why "The Family" adopted anarcho libertarian positions either, but I guess the answer is the same.

178 darthstar  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:48:45pm

Off topic, but way to freakin' cool not to share. "New Earth" found at 1200 meters beneath the sea:

Underwater Volcano eruption

And no, this isn't the reason for Global warming...it's just beautiful.

179 albusteve  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:49:18pm

re: #169 ausador

No, mainly because even they cannot honestly explain it, If you put a microphone in their face and asked them all you'd get was some mixed up disjointed Tea Party talking points. They don't have to understand it to know that it is bad, FOX told them it was, what more do they need to know?

it's not the reform, it's the cost and fed intrusion

180 brookly red  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:50:08pm

re: #175 MandyManners

To give all the king's horses and all the king's men something to do.

/it was the birth of big gubernmint

181 ryannon  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:50:41pm

re: #178 darthstar

Off topic, but way to freakin' cool not to share. "New Earth" found at 1200 meters beneath the sea:

Underwater Volcano eruption

And no, this isn't the reason for Global warming...it's just beautiful.

Wow!

I'll bet that it's at least a million degrees down there.

182 cliffster  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:51:05pm

re: #180 brookly red

/it was the birth of big gubernmint

Humpty Dumpty was a stimulus?

183 Achilles Tang  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:51:15pm

re: #176 SanFranciscoZionist

That's blasphemous. Mary agreed to become the Mother of God of her free will. To suggest that she might have aborted if it were legal and available to her presumes that she was forced into this role. More, it presumes that Christ's birth could have come about through forcing a young woman to act against her will.

Chuck needs to learn some goddamn theology.

Chucky doesn't need theology, he has obviously had to many kicks to the brain; but I am curious about one thing. You say Mary agreed, in advance? Is this in the bible somewhere?

184 humpty dumpty was pushed  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:51:28pm

re: #163 Basho

Why would someone push Humpty Dumpty?? :(

That is the question, my friend. Why, and who? * Throws cigarette down, snuffs it with foot and looks suspiciously at Basho...

185 Basho  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:51:29pm

re: #179 albusteve

it's not the reform, it's the cost and fed intrusion

Why is that an issue that these christians want there god to interfere?

186 researchok  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:51:31pm

re: #152 ryannon

She could get passionate, and certainly did.

I still don't see any evidence of her advocating the destruction of mosques.

Fallaci was pretty passionate on the Muslim immigration thing- maybe too much so.

As for the threat against the mosque, see this:

Fallaci threatens to blow up mosque.

187 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:51:37pm

re: #182 cliffster

Humpty Dumpty was a stimulus?

It was a jobs program for all the kings horses and men.

188 Girth  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:52:01pm

re: #176 SanFranciscoZionist

That's blasphemous. Mary agreed to become the Mother of God of her free will. To suggest that she might have aborted if it were legal and available to her presumes that she was forced into this role. More, it presumes that Christ's birth could have come about through forcing a young woman to act against her will.

Chuck needs to learn some goddamn theology.

There's only two possibilities here. Either:

1. He's too stupid to wrap his head around the theological consequences of what he's saying, as you state above, or

2. He knows this and he's bearing false witness in order to further his own political view.

I'll give Chuck the benefit of the doubt and go with 1.

189 brookly red  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:52:16pm

re: #182 cliffster

Humpty Dumpty was a stimulus?

no pushing him was...

190 Basho  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:52:21pm

re: #184 humpty dumpty was pushed

That is the question, my friend. Why, and who? * Throws cigarette down, snuffs it with foot and looks suspiciously at Basho...

LOL :)

191 darthstar  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:52:46pm

re: #181 ryannon

The article says the water near the eruption is more acidic than battery acid, yet shrimp and other critters live near it.

192 cliffster  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:53:37pm

re: #187 rwdflynavy

It was a jobs program for all the kings horses and men.

Plagiarizing Mandy - that'll get you in hot water.

193 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:53:54pm

re: #159 SixDegrees

And, of course, I have Detroit politics to hold all these excesses up against.

The two reporters who broke the story of Kwame Kilpatrick's text messaging scandal that ultimately drove him from office and won them a Pulitzer have published a small book of his sayings.

They call it the Kwame Sutra.

that just might be worth the eight bucks...

194 darthstar  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:54:36pm

re: #187 rwdflynavy

It was a jobs program for all the kings horses and men.

Typical no-bid contract. They failed.

195 Charles Johnson  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:54:43pm

re: #178 darthstar

Off topic, but way to freakin' cool not to share. "New Earth" found at 1200 meters beneath the sea:

Underwater Volcano eruption

And no, this isn't the reason for Global warming...it's just beautiful.

Sure, it looks pretty, but that video comes from the NOAA, and you realize they're the ones who fake all the global warming data, right?

This footage was obviously shot in an LA film studio. Or maybe it's all computerized. No way it could be real -- the NOAA is a bunch of dishonest hoaxsters.

/

196 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:54:47pm

re: #192 cliffster

Plagiarizing Mandy - that'll get you in hot water.

Of course, it was a short-term job that led to a "shovel" ready project when Humpty died.

197 brookly red  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:54:48pm

re: #191 darthstar

The article says the water near the eruption is more acidic than battery acid, yet shrimp and other critters live near it.

Waiter, on second thought, I will have the eggplant...

198 Decatur Deb  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:54:49pm

re: #183 Naso Tang

Chucky doesn't need theology, he has obviously had to many kicks to the brain; but I am curious about one thing. You say Mary agreed, in advance? Is this in the bible somewhere?

"Fiat"is not just a little car.

199 humpty dumpty was pushed  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:55:46pm

gg...bbl...:)

200 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:55:51pm

re: #192 cliffster

Plagiarizing Mandy - that'll get you in hot water.

I'm not scared of her!! (looks over shoulder)

201 Bubblehead II  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:56:13pm

re: #178 darthstar

Posted an ignored on the last thread.

/What else is new

202 ryannon  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:56:52pm

re: #168 JasonA

Jesus on a dinosaur.

Jesus on a pogo stick

203 RogueOne  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:57:32pm

re: #130 Stanley Sea

Uh, re: the Franken thing. Before everyone goes off based on only partial info, apparently he did the same for a Dem rep, and was on orders to keep all talk to 10 minutes. Only because it was Lieberman did it make the "news".

Back to the subject at hand...

Yeah I only saw the one clip. Linkage on the others?

BBL. My in-laws are going to be coming into town tomorrow and my wife has me running like mad, plus the colts game starts in an hour or so.

204 Achilles Tang  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:57:40pm

re: #198 Decatur Deb

"Fiat"is not just a little car.

Hmmm.

205 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:57:58pm

re: #191 darthstar

The article says the water near the eruption is more acidic than battery acid, yet shrimp and other critters live near it.

I always wondered whether the existence of 'extremophiles' should allow us to infer that life can arise in unlikely ecologies or, less grandly, that life can evolve towards unlikely ecologies. The latter, clearly, is true...but the million dollar question is whether we can infer the former.

//especially if it only has 6,000 yrs

206 Decatur Deb  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:58:39pm

re: #204 Naso Tang

[Link: www.newadvent.org...]

207 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:58:44pm

re: #183 Naso Tang

Chucky doesn't need theology, he has obviously had to many kicks to the brain; but I am curious about one thing. You say Mary agreed, in advance? Is this in the bible somewhere?

It's the teaching of the Catholic Church that she accepted the role of bearing Jesus. This is derived, at least in part from Luke 1:38.

"I am the Lord's servant," Mary said. "May it be unto me as you have said."

208 Basho  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:59:05pm

re: #178 darthstar

Off topic, but way to freakin' cool not to share. "New Earth" found at 1200 meters beneath the sea:

I read recently astronomers have discovered a planet around a Red Giant that's about the right size to have liquid water.

209 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:59:06pm

re: #195 Charles

if we could just get some of their emails...i could prove it fer sher...

210 schnapp  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:59:21pm

re: #162 Killgore Trout

That was also mentioned here at LGF.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

and how come realwest was blocked?

211 windsagio  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 3:59:54pm

re: #207 SanFranciscoZionist

I always thought it would have been pretty dumb of her to give God the finger and say, 'not until I see a ring!'

212 brookly red  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:00:28pm

re: #208 Basho

I read recently astronomers have discovered a planet around a Red Giant that's about the right size to have liquid water.

so there could be beer in space?

213 Jeff In Ohio  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:00:30pm

re: #178 darthstar

Off topic, but way to freakin' cool not to share. "New Earth" found at 1200 meters beneath the sea:

Underwater Volcano eruption

And no, this isn't the reason for Global warming...it's just beautiful.

Beautiful indeed. Did you read the comments? Lot of stupid there.

214 ryannon  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:02:22pm

re: #212 brookly red

so there could be beer in space?

Homer, is that you?

215 darthstar  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:02:27pm

re: #208 Basho

I heard that on NPR this morning...looking forward to learning more about that one. Could be ten times larger than earth.

216 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:03:30pm

re: #211 windsagio

I always thought it would have been pretty dumb of her to give God the finger and say, 'not until I see a ring!'

Well, the difficulty would have been that she was already engaged.

217 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:04:22pm

re: #183 Naso Tang

Chucky doesn't need theology, he has obviously had to many kicks to the brain; but I am curious about one thing. You say Mary agreed, in advance? Is this in the bible somewhere?

Not in the 4chan version anyway... (*Warning blasphemous blasphemy*)

Image: 4chan-explains-the-bible-500x533.png

218 windsagio  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:05:35pm

re: #216 SanFranciscoZionist

damn I hadn't thought about that...

altho now that I think of it, its come up (I think in a sermon!) how Joseph was cool about the whole thing. Again, I guess its God. Nobody wants a lightning bolt or a plague of boils~

/

219 wrenchwench  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:06:10pm

re: #201 Bubblehead II

Posted an ignored on the last thread.

/What else is new

Maybe you need to post louder. Have you tried capslock?

///

220 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:06:57pm

re: #213 Jeff In Ohio

Beautiful indeed. Did you read the comments? Lot of stupid there.

There's no pleasing some people. The snarky comment about carbon dating is priceless.

221 darthstar  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:08:34pm

re: #220 SanFranciscoZionist

There's no pleasing some people. The snarky comment about carbon dating is priceless.

Actually, I'd like to see that test performed. It'd be great to have a way to validate carbon dating.

222 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:08:46pm

re: #218 windsagio

damn I hadn't thought about that...

altho now that I think of it, its come up (I think in a sermon!) how Joseph was cool about the whole thing. Again, I guess its God. Nobody wants a lightning bolt or a plague of boils~

/

Well, Joseph is a good guy, and also, he gets his own Angel-O-Gram.

223 MandyManners  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:10:04pm

re: #208 Basho

I read recently astronomers have discovered a planet around a Red Giant that's about the right size to have liquid water.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

224 Achilles Tang  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:10:27pm

Changing the subject slightly; here is one puzzle I don't quite get:

Climate Change Is Nature's Way


This opinion piece in the WSJ today is essentially an AGW denier position, without explaining what is denied, and then one finds that the writer hobnobs with Buz Aldrin among others, here:

The Space Development Steering Committee

I don't get it. This man should have at the very least been able to formulate an argument why "nature" is acting right now, and why most scientists are so wrong, but he doesn't.

It would be interesting to find out if most of the members of the steering committee agree with this NASA connected pundit.

225 Achilles Tang  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:11:00pm

re: #208 Basho

I read recently astronomers have discovered a planet around a Red Giant that's about the right size to have liquid water.

That's a dwarf Basho.

226 windsagio  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:11:54pm

re: #222 SanFranciscoZionist

I really should know this crap >

ah well, c'est la vie!

227 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:13:06pm

re: #218 windsagio

damn I hadn't thought about that...

altho now that I think of it, its come up (I think in a sermon!) how Joseph was cool about the whole thing. Again, I guess its God. Nobody wants a lightning bolt or a plague of boils~

/

It was nice of him to send an angel in person, too. For that kind of thing, i think you want something a little more substantial than a 'vision'...

228 windsagio  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:14:01pm

re: #227 Aceofwhat?

well in fairness, being Gods step-dad is pretty kickass.

229 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:14:34pm

re: #228 windsagio

well in fairness, being Gods step-dad is pretty kickass.

I hear the retirement plan is quite the golden parachute...

230 political lunatic  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:14:39pm

re: #224 Naso Tang

The WSJ hasn't been a credible source since it was bought by Murdoch.

231 Girth  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:15:16pm

re: #228 windsagio

well in fairness, being Gods step-dad is pretty kickass.

Nice apartment, free parking...

232 Achilles Tang  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:17:04pm

re: #206 Decatur Deb

[Link: www.newadvent.org...]

The last sentences are often revealing:

It only means that the consent of Mary was foreseen from all eternity, and therefore was received as essential into the design of God.

The universe was made so as to guarantee this outcome. I should have seen that one coming.

233 Ayeless in Ghazi  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:18:57pm

re: #208 Basho

I read recently astronomers have discovered a planet around a Red Giant that's about the right size to have liquid water.

Here's a page that shows the 373 known exoplanets :

[Link: ngm.nationalgeographic.com...]

234 Bubblehead II  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:19:06pm

re: #219 wrenchwench

Maybe you need to post louder. Have you tried capslock?

///

No, And I don't think it would help if I did.

Just wish people would pay closer attention to previous posted links.

235 Achilles Tang  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:19:19pm

re: #230 political lunatic

The WSJ hasn't been a credible source since it was bought by Murdoch.

That's kind of in the same category as saying AGW is a crock since it was adopted by Al Gore.

I like the WSJ. It lets me pretend I'm still conservative at heart, some of the time.

236 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:20:22pm

re: #232 Naso Tang

The universe was made so as to guarantee this outcome. I should have seen that one coming.

None of them have quite overcome Calvin's pre-ordained bullshit, free will?
What free will? Sigh...

237 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:20:59pm

re: #235 Naso Tang

That's kind of in the same category as saying AGW is a crock since it was adopted by Al Gore.

I like the WSJ. It lets me pretend I'm still conservative at heart, some of the time.

The straight reporting is excellent, too. Few major newspapers handle data as well as the WSJ. Watching a NYT journalist try to work with numbers is like watching Palin try to work with numbers.

238 ryannon  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:21:47pm

re: #227 Aceofwhat?

It was nice of him to send an angel in person, too. For that kind of thing, i think you want something a little more substantial than a 'vision'...


One of my favorite representations of the scene: Gabriel bowing before the future Mother of Jesus... Their hands and postures... There's much more than meets the eye in that painting.

Image: 26_Annunciation_jpg.jpg

239 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:22:37pm

re: #233 Jimmah

Here's a page that shows the 373 known exoplanets :

[Link: ngm.nationalgeographic.com...]

On the topic of space, we're getting a teeny bit closer to routine earth orbit, it seems...
[Link: online.wsj.com...]

240 Decatur Deb  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:22:57pm

I'm waiting for Naso to kludge the Economy of Salvation into his Wall Street Journal discussion.

241 brookly red  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:22:58pm

re: #237 Aceofwhat?

The straight reporting is excellent, too. Few major newspapers handle data as well as the WSJ. Watching a NYT journalist try to work with numbers is like watching Palin try to work with numbers.

ability and motive are 2 different things...

242 SpaceJesus  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:25:34pm

all these so-called preachers are not legitimate at all. i have no idea what they're even talking about.

there is only one spacejesus-approved preacher on this earth, and he is this guy:


Youtube Video
243 Sharmuta  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:25:45pm

Interesting!

Bachmann Parts Ways With Fundraising Firm

Rep. Michele Bachmann's (R-Minn.) fundraising firm has become the latest defection from her camp, according to several sources familiar with the split.

The Gula Graham Group, a Republican fundraising and consulting firm, ended their three-year relationship with Bachmann last week, GOP sources with knowledge of the firm's decision said Wednesday.

Mike Gula, co-founder of the Gula Graham Group, confirmed his firm had parted ways with the fiery Minnesota Republican.

"I can confirm that the Gula Graham Group no longer works for Congresswoman Bachmann," Gula said. "We chose to go in a different direction."

244 Sharmuta  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:26:14pm

re: #243 Sharmuta

Interesting!

Bachmann Parts Ways With Fundraising Firm

More rats fleeing the ship, perhaps?

245 Achilles Tang  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:28:38pm

re: #238 ryannon

One of my favorite representations of the scene: Gabriel bowing before the future Mother of Jesus... Their hands and postures... There's much more than meets the eye in that painting.

[Link: www.historylink101.com...]

Looks like a demure "no thanks" to me.

246 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:28:49pm

re: #244 Sharmuta

More rats fleeing the ship, perhaps?

Only the weak rats!!
//

247 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:29:53pm

re: #246 rwdflynavy

Only the weak rats!!
//

Yes. The batshit crazy rats will go down with the ship.

"Hy Brasil is not sinking! Repeat, NOT SINKING!"

248 Achilles Tang  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:30:29pm

re: #244 Sharmuta

More rats fleeing the ship, perhaps?

It must be hard to find good professionals that talk the talk (and with God).

249 Sharmuta  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:31:05pm

re: #248 Naso Tang

God told the fundraising firm to ditch her.

250 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:31:41pm

re: #9 Sharmuta

It's interesting bachmann said America was worthy of God's wrath, but had a liberal said something like America wasn't perfect , bachmann would have accused them of being anti-American.

Just going back to this: I wonder what Bachmann had to say about the Rev. Wright's "God Damn America" moment?

251 Ayeless in Ghazi  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:32:21pm

re: #239 Aceofwhat?

On the topic of space, we're getting a teeny bit closer to routine earth orbit, it seems...
[Link: online.wsj.com...]

It will be interesting to see what if anything commercial competition can do for space travel. I'd have a go on one of those flights if I had the money.

252 Achilles Tang  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:32:29pm

re: #240 Decatur Deb

I'm waiting for Naso to kludge the Economy of Salvation into his Wall Street Journal discussion.

Hey, I'm multitasking here.

253 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:32:33pm

re: #244 Sharmuta

More rats fleeing the ship, perhaps?

This is a republican congressman reacting to the departure of her third chief of staff in November...

A conservative Republican House member, speaking on the condition of anonymity, suggested that Bachmann’s views — and her willingness to state them — make it hard for her to keep staff.

“When your captain’s crazy, it’s time to find a new ship,” the lawmaker said.

I'm just relieved that there exists such a creature as an elected Repub who knows she's crazy...

254 brookly red  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:33:12pm

re: #249 Sharmuta

God told the fundraising firm to ditch her.

perhaps, but the god of fundrasing is not the God of whom you speak...

255 Decatur Deb  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:33:33pm

re: #252 Naso Tang

And very well.

256 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:34:43pm

re: #251 Jimmah

It will be interesting to see what if anything commercial competition can do for space travel. I'd have a go on one of those flights if I had the money.

likewise. in a heartbeat. and just the fact that they're getting enough funding to stay alive means a few more guaranteed years of work on the project. a reliable $10million reusable orbiting ship? I'm a fan of NASA and all, but clearly the private sector has its uses...

257 Achilles Tang  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:34:56pm

re: #253 Aceofwhat?

This is a republican congressman reacting to the departure of her third chief of staff in November...

A conservative Republican House member, speaking on the condition of anonymity, suggested that Bachmann’s views — and her willingness to state them — make it hard for her to keep staff.

“When your captain’s crazy, it’s time to find a new ship,” the lawmaker said.

I'm just relieved that there exists such a creature as an elected Repub who knows she's crazy...

I'll be relieved when more don't have to speak on condition of anonymity.

258 Achilles Tang  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:35:33pm

re: #255 Decatur Deb

And very well.

*blush*

259 Girth  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:36:11pm

re: #249 Sharmuta

God told the fundraising firm to ditch her.

That's what I would have told her if it were my firm.

"Yeah, sorry, but God told me to drop you while I was eating my cereal this morning."

Just to see the look on her face.

260 Sharmuta  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:37:14pm

re: #259 Girth

That's what I would have told her if it were my firm.

"Yeah, sorry, but God told me to drop you while I was eating my cereal this morning."

Just to see the look on her face.

It was floating right there in my Alpha-bits.

261 ryannon  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:37:36pm

re: #245 Naso Tang

Looks like a demure "no thanks" to me.

That's not what I'm seeing in the body-language. But it would be too long to go into here....

262 Ayeless in Ghazi  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:38:02pm

re: #242 SpaceJesus

all these so-called preachers are not legitimate at all. i have no idea what they're even talking about.

there is only one spacejesus-approved preacher on this earth, and he is this guy:

[Video]

Awesome. Suddenly the Word is alive again!

263 Girth  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:38:49pm

re: #260 Sharmuta

It was floating right there in my Alpha-bits.

Actually it said "OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO," but I could decipher it.

264 Sharmuta  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:39:22pm

re: #263 Girth

Actually it said "OOO," but I could decipher it.

That's because you were eating Cheerios. ;)

265 SpaceJesus  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:39:42pm

re: #262 Jimmah

Awesome. Suddenly the Word is alive again!


'Bitch, I'm flowin' straight from the survivor scroll!"


hahaha

266 Varek Raith  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:41:52pm

re: #263 Girth

Actually it said "OOO," but I could decipher it.

"Hey, look, re: #264 Sharmuta

That's because you were eating Cheerios. ;)



Peter: Oh my God, Brian, there's a message in my alphabets... it says Ooooo!
Brian: Peter those are Cheerios.

267 Sharmuta  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:42:26pm

re: #266 Varek Raith

Yes- we shamelessly stole a bit.

268 Achilles Tang  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:42:35pm

re: #261 ryannon

That's not what I'm seeing in the body-language. But it would be too long to go into here...

You started this, sort of. It's interesting and all I know of body language reading is from O'Reilly (and 30+ years of marriage).

The outward palms say no, and the downward eyes and turned body suggest not ready for this stuff, and the guy on his knees doesn't seem really confident of the response to begin with.

269 Irish Rose  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:43:37pm

While these whited sepulchres pray on their "sanctified" television sets for healthcare reform to fail, Americans are suffering and dying because they don't have access to decent healthcare and live-saving medication.

These people disgust me.

270 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:45:21pm

re: #250 SanFranciscoZionist

Just going back to this: I wonder what Bachmann had to say about the Rev. Wright's "God Damn America" moment?

Not perfect, but a close second...

It was bound to come to trouble eventually, and it was Bachmann’s status as a second-line Sarah Palin surrogate that finally undid her. While pushing Palin’s Bill Ayers attack line, Bachmann did not restrict herself to the customary associations, such as “radical” and “terrorist.”

With her boundless enthusiasm for demonizing those she views as godless, Bachmann cheerfully broke new ground in the Ayers/Jeremiah Wright culture wars by forging a series of associations between “leftists” and “liberals” and “anti-Americans,” inside and outside Congress, who in Bachmann’s view ought to be investigated.

[Link: minnesotaindependent.com...]

271 Four More Tears  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:45:21pm
Not one picture of a guy with a beard sitting around on a cloud. I mean, what's he doing up there?
Youtube Video
272 Sharmuta  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:46:29pm

re: #270 Aceofwhat?

But is it un-American to say America is worthy of God's wrath? Bachmann will have to investigate herself.

273 SpaceJesus  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:47:31pm

re: #269 Irish Rose

While these whited sepulchres pray on their "sanctified" television sets for healthcare reform to fail, Americans are suffering and dying because they don't have access to decent healthcare and live-saving medication.

These people disgust me.

on the up side, if the bill passes, all these prayer group people might have access to free and reliable mental health evaluations and treatment

274 Achilles Tang  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:48:55pm

re: #273 SpaceJesus

on the up side, if the bill passes, all these prayer group people might have access to free and reliable mental health evaluations and treatment

Mental health evaluation is included in the bill? There goes the Scientology vote.

275 SixDegrees  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:49:30pm

re: #274 Naso Tang

Mental health evaluation is included in the bill? There goes the Scientology vote.

Hail, Xenu!

276 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:50:15pm

re: #272 Sharmuta

But is it un-American to say America is worthy of God's wrath? Bachmann will have to investigate herself.

It's car-wreck dicey, that's for sure. Think of the additional priceless moments we'd get if she went after herself in front of a microphone. But it'd be sad, too, because she's a congresswoman and sure, they're not always the brightest bunch, but not like this...not like this...

277 brookly red  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:51:06pm

re: #273 SpaceJesus

on the up side, if the bill passes, all these prayer group people might have access to free and reliable mental health evaluations and treatment

free? really...

278 SpaceJesus  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:52:03pm

re: #277 brookly red

free? really...

and mandatory, hopefully

279 brookly red  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:53:30pm

re: #278 SpaceJesus

and mandatory, hopefully

ahhhh, mandatory. you guys love that word.

280 Swampthing  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:53:41pm

Wow Charles, so instead of staying with a particular faction and trying to change it through education and debate, you jump ship and start flinging monkey-poo everywhere.

281 Summer Seale  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:54:12pm

re: #280 Swampthing

Wow Charles, so instead of staying with a particular faction and trying to change it through education and debate, you jump ship and start flinging monkey-poo everywhere.

I pray your existence out of here.

282 SpaceJesus  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:54:21pm

re: #280 Swampthing

later

283 brookly red  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:54:55pm

re: #282 SpaceJesus

later

on this we agree...

284 SpaceJesus  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:55:14pm

re: #279 brookly red

ahhh, mandatory. you guys love that word.

i also love how you and swampthing appeared right when a new thread got started

285 Charles Johnson  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:56:39pm

re: #280 Swampthing

Bye now - take care!

286 Summer Seale  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:56:52pm

re: #281 Summer

I pray your existence out of here.

Amen, Hallelujah.

287 brookly red  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:57:38pm

re: #284 SpaceJesus

i also love how you and swampthing appeared right when a new thread got started


I have been a while. asshole.

288 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:58:12pm

re: #286 Summer

Amen, Hallelujah.

He was duly rebuked. Pass the BBQ!

289 ryannon  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 4:58:50pm

re: #268 Naso Tang

You started this, sort of. It's interesting and all I know of body language reading is from O'Reilly (and 30+ years of marriage).

The outward palms say no, and the downward eyes and turned body suggest not ready for this stuff, and the guy on his knees doesn't seem really confident of the response to begin with.

Um. Date-rape, sort of.

290 Achilles Tang  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 5:02:58pm

re: #280 Swampthing

Wow Charles, so instead of staying with a particular faction and trying to change it through education and debate, you jump ship and start flinging monkey-poo everywhere.

I'm going to let you in on a secret. This is designed to pull all you sleeping 2004 dinosaurs out of your lair. Welcome back to the real world and hope you have your favorite stalker blogs lined up.

291 Achilles Tang  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 5:04:20pm

re: #285 Charles

Bye now - take care!

Shoot. I knew I shouldn't have taken that phone call.

292 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 5:07:51pm

re: #242 SpaceJesus

all these so-called preachers are not legitimate at all. i have no idea what they're even talking about.

there is only one spacejesus-approved preacher on this earth, and he is this guy:


I don't know, the Reverend Stang is pretty awesome:

Youtube Video
293 Ayeless in Ghazi  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 5:15:30pm

re: #292 WindUpBird

Uk priests can be pretty inspirational too. Take Father Dougal McGuire, for example :

Youtube Video
Youtube Video
294 Achilles Tang  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 5:22:34pm

re: #293 Jimmah

Your first video is blocked for the USA for whatever reason.

295 Achilles Tang  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 5:23:14pm

re: #294 Naso Tang

Your first video is blocked for the USA for whatever reason.

I meant both videos

296 Ayeless in Ghazi  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 5:28:18pm

re: #294 Naso Tang

Your first video is blocked for the USA for whatever reason.

Ah - it's because they are from the official Channel youtube channel for the show. Damn.

297 sattv4u2  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 5:43:54pm

re: #167 Killgore Trout

Yes, I was here posting about it, asshole.

Wow ,,, we get updinged now for calling people assholes!

How ,,,,,, nice!

298 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 6:06:09pm

re: #297 sattv4u2

I'm sure you've seen such things before. You've been here long enough to know that it happens. You can also get up-dings for telling people to go piss up a rope. Or so I hear.

299 acacia  Thu, Dec 17, 2009 6:55:19pm

re: #5 wrenchwench
What I like in the first one is the guy on the right at the table taking time out from the prayer to have his coffee.


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