Fences need to be jumped :-)

It leans to the right...

Only from this side

Are those CROP CIRCLES in the background?
RUN! RUN! Scream & shout!
(Because you can, is why!)

re: #4 Floral Giraffe

Are those CROP CIRCLES in the background?
RUN! RUN! Scream & shout!
(Because you can, is why!)

Worse yet. It's what you can't see above.

Chemtrails.

re: #5 Gus 802

Worse yet. It's what you can't see above.

Chemtrails.

Someday I will care enough to use Google and find out what the chemtrail thing is all about.

re: #6 SanFranciscoZionist

Someday I will care enough to use Google and find out what the chemtrail thing is all about.

I'll save you the trouble. It's a psychological disorder.

Actually, if you watch on or two videos which are invariably done by some crackpot it'll give you a good picture.

re: #6 SanFranciscoZionist

THEY are doing it to sap our precious bodily fluids

re: #8 Mark Winter

THEY are doing it to sap our precious bodily fluids

I'm surprised any of us have any precious bodily fluids left at this rate.

Does this have anything to do with the woman who believed that there didn't used to be rainbows in lawn sprinklers?

re: #8 Mark Winter

THEY are doing it to sap our precious bodily fluids

Mr. Jones, is that you?

///

Nice post, Charles.

re: #10 SanFranciscoZionist

Does this have anything to do with the woman who believed that there didn't used to be rainbows in lawn sprinklers?

Rainbow. It's subliminal. You know who else uses rainbow colors on their flag? GLAAD. It's being done to de-synthesize the population for the eventual overthrow of American Society by the GLBT Agenda.

They're starting in suburbia. See the whole picture. Lawns, watering, grass... rainbows and then eventually the Rainbow Flag.

//

re: #5 Gus 802

WHY do you not believe?
There are faeries, that come out, with magic wings, and fly in formation, to beat the crops down into SPECIFIC PATTERNS that we, as poor humans, can only imagine the significance of, with our non fairy brains.
And THAT is what the pretty crop circles are.
So there.

Caged green,
Caged by dead trees,
by the hand of man,
by the hand of man.

re: #14 Floral Giraffe

WHY do you not believe?
There are faeries, that come out, with magic wings, and fly in formation, to beat the crops down into SPECIFIC PATTERNS that we, as poor humans, can only imagine the significance of, with our non fairy brains.
And THAT is what the pretty crop circles are.
So there.

I am aware of aerial agri-hieroglyphic traditions.

/

re: #9 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm surprised any of us have any precious bodily fluids left at this rate.

Umm... waht have you been up to???

re: #16 Gus 802

I am aware of aerial agri-hieroglyphic traditions.

/

You mean "You are aware of ALL aerial agri-heiroglyphic traditions on the internet"? LOL!
YOU BETCHA!

re: #9 SanFranciscoZionist

Tried out Strangelove's suggestion of a gender ratio of "ten females to each male," with the women selected for their stimulating sexual characteristics?

OK, it's fun. BUt I needed to go to bed QUITE a while ago.
{{Lizards}}
SFZ, hope you are feeling better?
((Gus)) whack, just because!

Night!

re: #20 Floral Giraffe

OK, it's fun. BUt I needed to go to bed QUITE a while ago.
{{Lizards}}
SFZ, hope you are feeling better?
((Gus)) whack, just because!

Night!

Whack back FG! Hasta later. ;)

re: #19 Mark Winter

Tried out Strangelove's suggestion of a gender ratio of "ten females to each male," with the women selected for their stimulating sexual characteristics?

Nope, I'm not mine-shaft material. Too prone to claustrophobia, as are most the men in my family.

Arnold Stang passed away. He was 91.

You'll recognize him in this photo -- on the right.

That's an F-102 model which is what GW Bush flew in the TX ANG.

re: #6 SanFranciscoZionist

Someday I will care enough to use Google and find out what the chemtrail thing is all about.

Planes spray evil chemicals on us to keep us docile/hypnotized/sterile or start a gigantic electromagnetic weapons program/seed clouds to change the weather/create a chemical antenna for aliens. :D

re: #10 SanFranciscoZionist

Does this have anything to do with the woman who believed that there didn't used to be rainbows in lawn sprinklers?

Short version: you know those white condensation trails jets leave as they fly? They're also called contrails, and they're made of water vapor condensed from the atmosphere by the rapid expansion and adiabatic cooling of air as it passes over the wing. Various loons believe that they are loaded with mind-control chemicals, put there as part of an enormous plot between the shadowy powers that control everything and the airline industry, which actively collaborates in pumping million of gallons of...stuff...into the atmosphere on a daily basis to keep us all fat, dumb and happy.

Really.

re: #24 WindUpBird

Planes spray evil chemicals on us to keep us docile/hypnotized/sterile or start a gigantic electromagnetic weapons program/seed clouds to change the weather/create a chemical antenna for aliens. :D

I never heard about the chemical antenna theory. Creative.

You know who else fenced in his yard?

Hitler.

re: #27 Girth

You know who else fenced in his yard?

Hitler.

OK Glenn.

//

OK. Chemtrails it is. I assumed it had something to do with contrails, but...

Oh, hell, I don't want to share the planet with any more crazy people!

re: #26 SixDegrees

I never heard about the chemical antenna theory. Creative.

I made that up, but doesn't it sound great?

re: #28 Gus 802

OK Glenn.

//

I JUST LOVE MY COUNTRY!!!

re: #31 Girth

I JUST LOVE MY COUNTRY!!!

Tissue?

/sniff

re: #31 Girth

I JUST LOVE MY COUNTRY!!!

AND MY VICKS VAPORUB!

re: #30 WindUpBird

I made that up, but doesn't it sound great?

The disturbing part is that it sounded completely plausible as something the chemtrail crowd would put out there.

re: #32 Gus 802

Tissue?

/sniff

Pfft. Why would I spend money on tissues when I make so much money by crying?

re: #24 WindUpBird

Planes spray evil chemicals on us to keep us docile/hypnotized/sterile or start a gigantic electromagnetic weapons program/seed clouds to change the weather/create a chemical antenna for aliens. :D

Electro-chemical ionization. Creates an ionized atomic antenna over 1000s of square miles. This way the pocket protectors guys over at Dryden and Area 51 can remain in contact with The Aliens.

/

re: #35 Girth

Pfft. Why would I spend money on tissues when I make so much money by crying?

Here's some nice colored chalk. Go on over and write on your blackboard, you'll feel better.

re: #37 soccerdad

Flounce!

re: #30 WindUpBird

I made that up, but doesn't it sound great?

Let's spread it and see where it ends up

re: #37 soccerdad

BS deserves no support, and "kos like thinking" is complete hyperbole.

re: #40 Mark Winter

Let's spread it and see where it ends up

I bet if we put our minds together and gathered enough data, we could determine where the alien home world is!

re: #42 soccerdad

GAZE

re: #42 soccerdad

Go away.

Sleigh Ride - The Glenn Miller Orchestra

re: #46 Gus 802

Nice.

re: #43 SixDegrees

I bet if we put our minds together and gathered enough data, we could determine where the alien home world is!

YOU don't want to know where THEY are

re: #47 Killgore Trout

Nice.

Thanks. Glenn Miller was the man! This is a later version of course.

re: #47 Killgore Trout

I almost forgot that I hate Christmas music there for a second.

soccerdad, you do realize that there is a difference between supporting team L and speaking up when team R is not telling the truth, right?

re: #52 soccerdad
Go away.

sure man. no problem.

Fail

I have to go to sleep now.

re: #55 SanFranciscoZionist

I have to go to sleep now.

Sleep well, SFZ!

re: #55 SanFranciscoZionist

I have to go to sleep now.

Night SFZ!

Still logged in to the thread. Not gone. Go Away fail.

“If you want things to stay as they are, things will have to change”
(Giuseppe Tomasi di Lampedusa)

re: #57 soccerdad

et tu kilgore?

Yeah, me. Still here? Can't go away on your own? Scoot!

re: #25 SixDegrees

Short version: you know those white condensation trails jets leave as they fly? They're also called contrails, and they're made of water vapor condensed from the atmosphere by the rapid expansion and adiabatic cooling of air as it passes over the wing. Various loons believe that they are loaded with mind-control chemicals, put there as part of an enormous plot between the shadowy powers that control everything and the airline industry, which actively collaborates in pumping million of gallons of...stuff...into the atmosphere on a daily basis to keep us all fat, dumb and happy.

Really.

You didn't mention about how slowly over time it will cause DNA mutations that will turn us all into greys.

/and no I did not make that up, I read it on the intrawebs.

Jingle Bells by Glenn Miller & Orchestra (78 RPM)

re: #61 Killgore Trout

Yeah, me. Still here? Can't go away on your own? Scoot!

Don't feed the troll, Killgore. He'll spew his bile here for a time but once Charles wakes up and reviews that jerk's deleted comment, he'll be shown the door. It's not worth your time to argue with floucebait.

Duke Ellington Orchestra - Jingle Bells

No Satchmo on this one.

re: #64 Gus 802

I bought a gramaphone a while back and I love it. I pick through 78's at thrift stores and discover some really cool old music.

re: #68 Killgore Trout

I bought a gramaphone a while back and I love it. I pick through 78's at thrift stores and discover some really cool old music.

Sounds nice. I gave away a modern record player a couple of years ago. There's something about the scratches and pops that adds to the character. The old music was cool then and cool now.

"Woodman, Spare That Tree"- PHIL HARRIS

re: #64 Gus 802

Phil Harris - Smoke Smoke Smoke

re: #70 Killgore Trout

re: #71 freetoken

Awesome. Love the horns. (And the strings.)

re: #74 soccerdad

I've never posted on the Kos, and I've always been a conservative. But what I try not to be is an asshole. You popped in and proceeded to insult Charles (and by extension the people posting here) by decrying a "kos-like atmosphere' and calling LGF a trainwreck. I've seen a lot of people do that here since July and it always ends with Charles banning the person who insulted him on his own blog. Hence, I've got little to say to such a person, because they're about to be banned anyway.

Tangled Up in Blue - Bob Dylan

re: #75 Dark_Falcon

I've got little to say to such a person, because they're about to be banned anyway.

And douchebags aren't worth that much effort anyway.

Oh well. I guess some people are so concerned about themselves that they would rather insult others to prove their point.

Narcissistic Flouncer Disorder.

re: #79 soccerdad

Me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me.

re: #82 soccerdad

you have a point?

Yep. I do. You're self centered. My guess is that you have narcissistic personality disorder.

re: #84 soccerdad

You did say train-wreck, but I'm not the judge here.
Yet, did it ever occur to you that many of those who called themselves "conservative" have actually become reactionaries and right wing extremists? (Not you, I don't know you.)

But if I read some of the "conservative" blogs I get nausea. And I'm not a leftist. But irrational hatefests are not my cup of tea.

Good night all. Stay scaly!

re: #14 Floral Giraffe

WHY do you not believe?
There are faeries, that come out, with magic wings, and fly in formation, to beat the crops down into SPECIFIC PATTERNS that we, as poor humans, can only imagine the significance of, with our non fairy brains.
And THAT is what the pretty crop circles are.
So there.

Faeries or not, they are beautiful...

Image: crop-circles.jpg

[Link: thecropcircle.wordpress.com...]

God, AGW deniers are bad enough as it is usually, but this last one that felt compelled to write six paragraphs of drivel in every post was making me want to pull my hair out (not that I have hair much left).

Sigh...another day, another inspired obfustication creator.

I know there are people who shout "The End is Near" and all that paranoid garbage. But I have bad news: I think they're right. Need proof? I just saw a "Snuggie" commercial and now they come in leopard and zebra print. But the true sign is the fact that they now have a "Snuggie" for your dog. REPENT!!!

re: #88 ausador

God, AGW deniers are bad enough as it is usually, but this last one that felt compelled to write six paragraphs of drivel in every post was making me want to pull my hair out (not that I have hair much left).

Sigh...another day, another inspired obfustication creator.

Well, I went over to the thread to get an idea of what you were referring to, and I find this statement by you... "all he is is a man with a calculator desperately checking and rechecking every number that the climate scientists release and hoping and praying to find an error somewhere to crow about. The man is an obsessive whack-job."

Gee, I'm not even concerned if McIntyre (sp?) nows his ass from a hole in the ground, but your comment seems to indicate that he has found errors and asked for corrections. Considering your apparent concern for the science of all this, that seems to be a valid objective, to make sure the figures are as accurate as possible.

Can you clarify for me. Has McIntyre found actual errors in certain computations or not?

Another sign the end is near...
[Link: www.floridatoday.com...]

FYI

Snowstorms and subfreezing temperatures have battered Europe, killing 15 people in Poland alone overnight and wreaking havoc on air, train and car travelers from the Nordics to Italy on the last weekend before Christmas.

Good morning everyone,

Getting up early and readying myself for school -- holiday is a day and a half away. Hope all are well. If I don't meet up again later, I wish you all a pleasant and Merry Christmas.

Split cedar rail?
Good morning LGF.

This is a story about a Senator who called anyone opposed to the healthcare bill racist, bigots and aryan. I'm not for the heathcare bill and I am none of those things.

[Link: washingtontimes.com...]

But, check out this comment:

aobermeyer
All it takes is one bullet. Thay can't watch all of them all the time and will end this 60 majority till 2012. Signed an aryan who is sick and tired of this crap...

Dude might (should) get a knock on the door.

re: #94 Spare O'Lake

Split cedar rail?
Good morning LGF.

My neighbor put up a wooden fence. Cost him 3K. It wasn't like the fence in the pic. They secured the boards to the fence. But used nails, not screws. About a month later all the boards were popping loose. He wasn't happy.

re: #92 Walter L. Newton

FYI

Snowstorms and subfreezing temperatures have battered Europe, killing 15 people in Poland alone overnight and wreaking havoc on air, train and car travelers from the Nordics to Italy on the last weekend before Christmas.

I'm pretty sure I've been AGW perverted...I actually feel hopeful and optimistic these days whenever I read these tragic reports of very cold weather.
Sick and twisted.

re: #95 Cannadian Club Akbar

Sheldon Whitehouse? Wow, I didn't expect him to be such a bombthrower. I expect that stuff in the House, certainly...

re: #98 WindUpBird

I know nothing of the guy.

Morning Folks

re: #100 RogueOne

Morning Folks

An hour and 17 minutes between comments. Gah!! Morning.

Morning Lizards.

Our trip to Roanoke went pretty well. Unable to get to my MIL house (she lives up a mountain that hasn't been plowed yet) so we met her at a hotel after a friend with 4x4 picked her up. We leave for Ohio this morning.

Saw soccerdad's flounce in progress. Sad thing is that he is arguing with those I consider conservative on this board. He won't last long. Too bad, we can always use more conservatives, I'd just prefer they be moderately sane and intelligent.

bbl

re: #102 rwdflynavy

Actually, Soccerdad is a long timer. I didn't see the flounce. It was deleted.

It's smiling at me...

re: #90 Walter L. Newton

Someone in that thread posted that he had managed to get NASA to change their numbers by .17 of a degree and that little of a change amounted to nothing. Since the argument is the worlds temp has increased by .7, a change of .17 is ~22%, that's quite a difference.

Iran Dismisses US Deadline For Nuke Deal

Iran's president has dismissed a year-end deadline set by the Obama administration for Teheran to accept a UN-drafted deal to swap enriched uranium for nuclear fuel.
The deal aims to diminish Iran's stockpile of enriched uranium, easing the West's fears that the material could be used to produce a nuclear weapon. Iran, which denies it seeks to build a bomb, has balked at the deal's terms.
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said that "if Iran wanted to make a bomb, we would be brave enough to tell you."
He said the West can give Iran "as many deadlines as they want, we don't care."
Ahmadinejad spoke on Tuesday to supporters in the southern city of Shiraz. He lashed out at Washington, saying Iran won't allow the US to dominate the region.
[Link: www.jpost.com...]

dither...fiddle...dither...fiddle...
meaningful deal
dither...fiddle...dither...fiddle...
meaningful sanctions
dither...fiddle...dither...fiddle...

BO's sinking numbers

In today's Rasmussen presidential poll , only 26 percent of the nation's voters strongly approve of Barack Obama's performance as president, while 43 percent strongly disapprove - giving him a Presidential Approval Index rating, a sum calculated by subtracting the number of strong disapprovals from the number of strong approvals, of negative 17. His overall disapproval rating is 53 percent (it has been 50 percent or more for over a month). But it is the extraordinarily high proportion of those who strongly disapprove that bears noting.

In January, George W. Bush left office with a "Strongly Disapprove" rating of ... 43 percent. It took Bush eight years to achieve that level of strong disapproval, despite how the mainstream media pummeled him for years. Obama has reached that level in 11 months, despite a media that for months could not use his name in a sentence without also adding "Lincoln" and "FDR."

To appreciate the magnitude of Obama's ratings fall, consider that after his first full day in office, his presidential index was positive 30. Today's index of negative 17 reflects a swing of 47 points in less than a year.

A commenter at the Huffington Post today observes that Obama has "accomplished the remarkable feat of both demoralizing the base and completely turning off voters in the center." The president has also unified the Republican party and created a tea-party movement that in some polls is more popular than both the Democratic and Republican parties

re: #107 albusteve

I've been pointing out since I joined that moderates are bailing off the sinking obama ship like rats. Last I saw he was down almost 30% with independents.

re: #107 albusteve

Gosh. He's been President for 11 months. Wow... that went quick. Mid-terms are getting here quicker than I think either side wants them to get here.

Rain Man is no longer counting cards with Charlie Babbet.
[Link: movies.yahoo.com...]

re: #101 Cannadian Club Akbar

An hour and 17 minutes between comments. Gah!! Morning.

Where is everyone? Getting ready for xmas?

re: #109 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

It isn't surprising near the end of the first and especially a second term for bad numbers. But this is rather quick.

re: #111 RogueOne

Where is everyone? Getting ready for xmas?

Everyone had either to much beer or not enough coffee.
/

re: #111 RogueOne

Where is everyone? Getting ready for xmas?

I'm making a list and checking it twice...

I have to go a do all of the Christmas shopping later today.

re: #107 albusteve

Obama has unified the GOP?
Say it ain't so.

re: #115 Spare O'Lake

Nope.

Early Morning! Lizards!

3 (including today) more days 'til Santa! AND it really looks a lot like Christmas around here.

How are you-all this am?

re: #117 ggt

Saw the forecast. What the hell is an ice pellet? Is that like hail?

re: #117 ggt

Early Morning! Lizards!

3 (including today) more days 'til Santa! AND it really looks a lot like Christmas around here.

How are you-all this am?

A bit crabby.

I have to go do all the Christmas shopping today. :)

re: #118 Cannadian Club Akbar

Saw the forecast. What the hell is an ice pellet? Is that like hail?

ice pellets a/k/a sleet

old terms aren't kewl anymore, I guess.

;)

re: #115 Spare O'Lake

Obama has unified the GOP?
Say it ain't so.

who knows what will become of it...probably nothing, and I'm not sure I even care...the donks are out of control, the POTUS is a disaster and the GOP appears to be in shambles...so perception is everything..."who's yer daddy?"

Black ice is what I HATE!

I know, I'm a racist.

/

re: #122 ggt

Icist!

re: #120 ggt

That Wiki entry blames the Gulf of Mexico in part. Why do they hate the south? Must be run by Space Jesus.
/

re: #123 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Icist!

I like purple snowcones.

I got a present from my daughter yesterday, a tee shirt which has a cool picture and logo...
'Kieth Richards For President'
dig that

re: #91 Cannadian Club Akbar

Another sign the end is near...
[Link: www.floridatoday.com...]

This made me laugh!

I've been working on a set of shop prints for a big library job that we're doing. I've put in almost 40 hrs since saturday reproducing their prints so I can get the details I need and I'm no where near fiinished. This morning I get an email from the GC telling me the architect is letting people have a copy of their CAD files to make their shop prints. I just sent him a pretty curt email letting him know it would have been nice to have known this a week ago. stupid buttholes.

re: #126 albusteve

I believe we'd have to see his birth certificate.

He don't sound like he's from 'round here.

'Ceptin' when he's playin'.

re: #129 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I believe we'd have to see his birth certificate.

He don't sound like he's from 'round here.

'Ceptin' when he's playin'.

"Kieth" isn't a spelling I recognize--has to be ferrin.

/

re: #130 ggt

"Kieth" isn't a spelling I recognize--has to be ferrin.

/

It's a Kenyan spelling, IIRC.

re: #128 RogueOne

I've been working on a set of shop prints for a big library job that we're doing. I've put in almost 40 hrs since saturday reproducing their prints so I can get the details I need and I'm no where near fiinished. This morning I get an email from the GC telling me the architect is letting people have a copy of their CAD files to make their shop prints. I just sent him a pretty curt email letting him know it would have been nice to have known this a week ago. stupid buttholes.

At least you don't have to finish!

re: #129 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I believe we'd have to see his birth certificate.

He don't sound like he's from 'round here.

'Ceptin' when he's playin'.

he lives in Bridgeport Conn most of the time now

re: #119 Jadespring

A bit crabby.

I have to go do all the Christmas shopping today. :)

Just be sure to buy something for your self --makes the whole process much easier--and splurge at Starbucks --you deserve it!

re: #132 ggt

At least you don't have to finish!

It's due thursday, I may make them wait until after the weekend just out of spite.

re: #128 RogueOne

If it's any consolation, I've been troubleshooting a problem with some of our point of purchase displays. They're becoming non-reactive over time (they use a special paper and cameras sensitive to the special ink in the special paper.)

I consulted with the printer, the software guys, tried various approaches and workarounds. Finally, I went to a store, and sat there watching people interact with one.

After a few hours, I saw a cleaning guy come up and spray the POP display down-- including the treated paper-- with a solvent and clean it off.

Yeah, that'll do it.

In other news, Obama is backing more NASA stuff. A pleasant surprise.

Obama backs larger NASA budget

re: #125 Cannadian Club Akbar
I've got plenty of YELLOW SNOW!!!

...Don't go where the huskys go...

"Turned" the fireplace on for the critters. Cats and Dogs will lie down together if it means warmth.

re: #135 RogueOne

It's due thursday, I may make them wait until after the weekend just out of spite.

Keep that Christmas Spirit alive!

;)

re: #128 RogueOne

I've been looking at our prints for the Guard remodel...
...Need a bigger monitor!!
The information flow with the State SUCKS!!

re: #137 reloadingisnotahobby

I've got plenty of YELLOW SNOW!!!

...Don't go where the huskys go...

Ah, I love the sound of Zappa in the morning.

"it shall not be in order in the senate or the house of representatives to consider any bill, resolution, amendment, or conference report that would repeal or otherwise change this subsection."

the Senate goes crazy...

[Link: www.weeklystandard.com...]

re: #136 Obdicut

After a few hours, I saw a cleaning guy come up and spray the POP display down-- including the treated paper-- with a solvent and clean it off.

Yeah, that'll do it.

Ha! Doesn't it seem most issues always turn out to be "operator error"?

re: #137 reloadingisnotahobby

How do you spell "great googalie moogalie"?

re: #140 reloadingisnotahobby

I've been looking at our prints for the Guard remodel...
...Need a bigger monitor!!
The information flow with the State SUCKS!!

Are you in the guard or a contractor?

re: #134 ggt

Just be sure to buy something for your self --makes the whole process much easier--and splurge at Starbucks --you deserve it!

Sounds like a great idea. I think I will. :)

I don't mind it all that much it's just a little stressful making sure I get everything I need since it's an hours drive to the shops. I don't want to have to make the trip again if I forget something.

re: #133 albusteve

he lives in Bridgeport Conn most of the time now

He probably could't be much worse than Obama.
Has he fallen out of any trees lately?

re: #146 Jadespring

Maybe you should make a list...

teehee

re: #148 Cannadian Club Akbar

Maybe you should make a list...

I have a list! I just have to make sure I've remembered to put everything on the list! :D

re: #149 ggt

teehee

That's not the Santa I knew...
/

re: #145 RogueOne
I manage the building ..Mech/Strutural...fo the State of Utah!
Seems they've found several Million $$ for ALL our Guard sites!
Cool!The buildings were very dated !

re: #146 Jadespring

Sounds like a great idea. I think I will. :)

I don't mind it all that much it's just a little stressful making sure I get everything I need since it's an hours drive to the shops. I don't want to have to make the trip again if I forget something.

I try to buy a couple of gift cards to stores I like --for the "just in case" gifts --that way if I don't need them as gifts I can always use them --gas station, grocery store -etc.

re: #150 Jadespring

I have a list! I just have to make sure I've remembered to put everything on the list! :D

Check it twice...

re: #144 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

How do you spell "great googalie moogalie"?

...Like that right there..!LOL
It's not in spell check???

re: #152 reloadingisnotahobby

I'll bet. The guard can use whatever extra funds they can get their hands on and it isn't like they don't deserve it.

GOP senator: Democratic health care deals 'sleazy'

He also said he would vote for the package even if it didn't contain concessions for Iowa. "The principle of this bill overrides everything," Harkin told CBS' "Early Show.

even honesty, integrity and common sense...got it

[Link: www.chron.com...]

re: #153 ggt

I try to buy a couple of gift cards to stores I like --for the "just in case" gifts --that way if I don't need them as gifts I can always use them --gas station, grocery store -etc.

That's a good idea.

re: #147 Spare O'Lake

He probably could't be much worse than Obama.
Has he fallen out of any trees lately?

I'll ask next time I see him...

re: #143 RogueOne

Ha! Doesn't it seem most issues always turn out to be "operator error"?

Yeah. I think the most popular idiocies I run into when troubleshooting are "Operator error", or "I don't trust math, especially probability", or "Oh, I have to follow all the steps in the process?"

I can deal with people screwing up; it's harder for me to keep my temper in check when people openly admit, "Yeah, I didn't follow that guide you spent a weekend writing. Nobody really reads instruction manuals."

re: #154 Cannadian Club Akbar

LOL
I get to play Santa Claus for 18 or 19 kiddies today at 4pm...
...That suit is HOT!!

re: #158 Jadespring

That's a good idea.

Hey, I'm full of them. Just wish I could sell some for hard cash!

ha!

I think Hoosier has been praying extra hard for a white christmas. We've had crappy weather for a week. I'm blaming him, although it's hard not to root for a guy to get his first white xmas.

So...
Anyone hear from Walter on the interview??

re: #153 ggt

I try to buy a couple of gift cards to stores I like --for the "just in case" gifts --that way if I don't need them as gifts I can always use them --gas station, grocery store -etc.

I apply the same principle when I gift the wife power tools.

re: #163 RogueOne

I think Hoosier has been praying extra hard for a white christmas. We've had crappy weather for a week. I'm blaming him, although it's hard not to root for a guy to get his first white xmas.

It has been chilly here, but Christmas day it will be 77. Let the margaritas flow!!

re: #144 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Gogl Mogl - a single raw egg is added to a cup of warm milk and mixed with a tablespoon of honey
I wouldn't drink this Jewish home remedy for a sore throat if you paid me.

Here's an interesting take on Joe Lieberman from Dana Milbank of the Washington Post:

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

Joe is my senator and I like how he represents me. He is beholden to neither party, which pisses off the leftist partisans for whom I have very little use. I hope he KEEPS pissing them off, as long as his positions continue to be pragmatic, mature, and correct.

re: #141 ggt

Ah, I love the sound of Zappa in the morning.

Wow!
Long time since I heard that!!
...So long...I'm sure I was stoned when I did!

re: #165 SixDegrees

I apply the same principle when I gift the wife power tools.

You are bad!

re: #160 Obdicut

Yeah. I think the most popular idiocies I run into when troubleshooting are "Operator error", ..."Oh, I have to follow all the steps in the process?"

I can deal with people screwing up; it's harder for me to keep my temper in check when people openly admit, "Yeah, I didn't follow that guide you spent a weekend writing. Nobody really reads instruction manuals."

My buddy does dental software and I hear the same thing from him, consistently. Especially the "all the steps?". I like the field I'm in because when people screw up I can use filthy language and no one gets offended!

re: #169 reloadingisnotahobby

Wow!
Long time since I heard that!!
...So long...I'm sure I was stoned when I did!

It was sooo mucy funnier back then.
:)

re: #159 albusteve

I'll ask next time I see him...

Reminds me. Why in the hell was he in a tree?

re: #165 SixDegrees

I apply the same principle when I gift the wife power tools.

My wife has wanted kitchen stuff the last couple of years and I haven't gotten them for her. I think it's a trap.

Fireplace keeps turning itself off and Cat Overlord is looking at me.

Since the fireplace is ultimately under His control, I'm confused as to the ominous glare I am getting.

re: #173 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Reminds me. Why in the hell was he in a tree?

Volunteer Fireman??

re: #173 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Reminds me. Why in the hell was he in a tree?

he was sitting up on a old tree stump, not climbing a tree

re: #134 ggt

Just be sure to buy something for your self --makes the whole process much easier--and splurge at Starbucks --you deserve it!

Good morning, Lizards.

"Buy something for yourself"
I do like that idea and must confess that every year, without fail, during xmas shopping, my very first purchase is something for myself. I carry this guilt quietly but happily with my new toy.

Now, let xmas shopping for others commence.

re: #174 RogueOne

POTS and PANS???
Don't do it !!...Save yourself!!
There weapons!!
She's arming up!!

re: #178 Semper Fi

My wife picked out her gift on Friday.

It is beautiful. She's so happy.

re: #178 Semper Fi

Good morning, Lizards.

"Buy something for yourself"
I do like that idea and must confess that every year, without fail, during xmas shopping, my very first purchase is something for myself. I carry this guilt quietly but happily with my new toy.

Now, let xmas shopping for others commence.

I buy a 1.75 bottle of CC and do my shopping on the internet. Does that count?
///

Crime is falling.

re: #178 Semper Fi

Shsssh!
I bought a gun...Don't tell ANYONE!!!

re: #181 Cannadian Club Akbar

I buy a 1.75 bottle of CC and do my shopping on the internet. Does that count?
///

CoCo Chanel? That's 3 Cs. Where do you get it for a buck-seventy five?

re: #178 Semper Fi

Good morning, Lizards.

"Buy something for yourself"
I do like that idea and must confess that every year, without fail, during xmas shopping, my very first purchase is something for myself. I carry this guilt quietly but happily with my new toy.

Now, let xmas shopping for others commence.

Actually, I buy lots of somethings for myself, wrap them, put them under the tree with tags that say they are from my husband.

He thinks it is a great idea.

re: #181 Cannadian Club Akbar

...That's drinking and surfing...Very dangerous!
UPS shows up ..and ya think...WTF!Who ordered th...oh yeah!

re: #183 reloadingisnotahobby

Shsssh!
I bought a gun...Don't tell ANYONE!!!

I did that last year--for hubby. All I heard was that I was the greatest wife ever!

NY gets stiffed...Patterson is pissed

Paterson was also bitter that states like Massachusetts and Vermont, which were also generous, got last-minute deals that erase their extra costs.

Read more: [Link: www.nydailynews.com...]

re: #185 ggt

That is genius. You have a Cat Overlord and an evil genius husband!

Your address 666 or somethin?

re: #186 reloadingisnotahobby

...That's drinking and surfing...Very dangerous!
UPS shows up ..and ya think...WTF!Who ordered th...oh yeah!

I have had that happen long ago.:(

re: #187 ggt
...I forgot ta say...I bought for myself!
Oops...

re: #178 Semper Fi

I'm probably going to buy myself the special edition Watchmen dvd.

re: #187 ggt

I did that last year--for hubby. All I heard was that I was the greatest wife ever!

...And he was right!!
You are!!;-)

re: #189 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That is genius. You have a Cat Overlord and an evil genius husband!

Your address 666 or somethin?

No, I just don't get caught up in the emotion of it all. Must be the Cat's plan.

re: #160 Obdicut

"Yeah, I didn't follow that guide you spent a weekend writing. Nobody really reads instruction manuals."

The last sentence you wrote is so true. It seems many people have an aversion to reading -or- if they do read, will take shortcuts by skipping important words and even sentences necessary for clear understanding.

re: #193 reloadingisnotahobby

...And he was right!!
You are!!;-)

aw!

Now the Cat is telling me that there is no water in the dogs' crate. Geez, there are 3 other water bowls that ARE full.

I'm not getting-up for this, he can go into the kitchen!

re: #196 ggt

I think the wife bought me an Ice Auger...
She has no idea it take at least a pint to get me on a frozen lake!

re: #180 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My wife picked out her gift on Friday.

It is beautiful. She's so happy.

Whew! Then, thankfully, I'm not alone.

re: #188 albusteve

See? They just don't get it.

You have to play hard to get while you are blowing your Senator.

Hard balancing act I know, but it must be done properly.

re: #105 RogueOne

Someone in that thread posted that he had managed to get NASA to change their numbers by .17 of a degree and that little of a change amounted to nothing. Since the argument is the worlds temp has increased by .7, a change of .17 is ~22%, that's quite a difference.

Interesting.

I never got an answer from Ausador early this morning. Ausador acted like there was something wrong with McIntyre (sp?) because he actually did find some faults with someone's figures... as Ausador stated...

"all he is is a man with a calculator desperately checking and rechecking every number that the climate scientists release and hoping and praying to find an error somewhere to crow about. The man is an obsessive whack-job."

Obsessive or not, right or wrong or not about AGW, AGW denier or not, I don't care, that's not the point. If he has contributed nothing to the process, then he is a obsessive whack-job. But if McIntyre actually found some problems, pointed them out and someone made necessary adjustments, then guess what, that's science.

I wanted a clarification. Did McIntyre find some problems or not?That's what I asked Ausador. Never got an answer, from anyone.

These 60 senators have joined in what surely ranks among the most breathtakingly arrogant spasms of anti-democratic hubris in American legislative history. By every credible measure of public opinion, opposition to Obamacare has grown for months as people learned more about it. Fully 61 percent of those responding to CNN's most recent survey turned thumbs down on Obamacare. And still these 60 senators opted to thumb their noses at the majority.

your tax dollars at work...something is very wrong here

[Link: www.washingtonexaminer.com...]

re: #181 Cannadian Club Akbar

I buy a 1.75 bottle of CC and do my shopping on the internet. Does that count?
///

That save a lot of time and is so techi

Saw a bumper sticker I want

OBAMA,The beginning of
an Historic ERROR!

re: #183 reloadingisnotahobby

Shsssh!
I bought a gun...Don't tell ANYONE!!!

That's another thing...I sometimes sneak my very own, personal, gift into the house where it makes its magical appearance 'after' xmas.
I kid you not.

re: #174 RogueOne

My wife has wanted kitchen stuff the last couple of years and I haven't gotten them for her. I think it's a trap.

My mother wanted them, dad got her something romantic. She got pissed, returned it the next day and got her POTS AND PANS!

It's not always a trick.

Just sayin...

hmmm, no reason to get pregnant --really. I think I might agree with this.

re: #204 reloadingisnotahobby

Saw a bumper sticker I want

OBAMA,The beginning of
an Historic ERROR!

yesterday someone said they thought he was doing a pretty good job with foreign policy...just proves how two people look at the same thing but see it in opposites...I call it fantasy

Seems kitchen water bowls were empty too. I think I'm in trouble.

re: #185 ggt

Actually, I buy lots of somethings for myself, wrap them, put them under the tree with tags that say they are from my husband.

He thinks it is a great idea.

Talk about being creative. Also, it saves money because he's not in the stores selecting something for himself.

Goodbye and good riddance:

In October, Jagels told the Bakersfield Californian that after 26 years in office, he won't be running for reelection in 2010. Good riddance to him.
...
But if history dispenses justice more honorably than Ed Jagels ever did, the boyish-looking D.A. will be most remembered for his role ruining countless lives in perhaps the most shameful of the Reagan-era "tough on crime" debacles: the coast-to-coast sex abuse panic of the 1980s.
...
Instead, Jagels set his sights on Kern County's lower middle class. Relying on suggestive police and social worker interrogations of children, Jagels' office put 26 people behind bars on felony child sex abuse charges in the 1980s and ‘90s. Of those 26 convictions, 25 have since been overturned.

[Link: reason.com...]

re: #174 RogueOne

My wife has wanted kitchen stuff the last couple of years and I haven't gotten them for her. I think it's a trap.

The 6-qt. KitchenAid stand mixer is a ripoff!

I have owned a 5-qt KitchenAid stand mixer for since forever. It is faithful to me and I had a tune-up two years ago and it runs like new. My only complaint is that the bowl can not handle more than 8 cups of bread flour at a time.

I thought I would get the new KitchenAid with the larger bowl, but before spending all that money, I went to Amazon.com to check out the customer reviews.

Well, KitchenAid did indeed make a mixer with a larger bowl, BUT, they kept the same size motor. Which means that if you put more than 8 cups of flour in the bowl, the motor overheats and shorts out.

I think I'll keep my old mixer.

Good Morning Lizards,
We hope to get 787 #2 up in the iar today this morning...

[Link: www.komonews.com...]

re: #201 Walter L. Newton

You should try asking Charles, who has posted his very public criticism of McIntyre many times.

re: #213 Ericus58

Good Morning Lizards,
We hope to get 787 #2 up in the iar today this morning...

[Link: www.komonews.com...]

It is awfully pretty.

re: #192 Mad Al-Jaffee

I'm probably going to buy myself the special edition Watchmen dvd.

Is that a newly released movie or ???
Showing my ignorance...

re: #212 Alouette

I had a 20 QT Hobart mixer but had to sell it.:(

Morning, Lizards - possibly to my own detriment, I'm trying to post more often and hopefully get some cyber relationships going here. I feel like I know so many of you so well from reading for so long, but if someone were to mention my nic, most would probably say "who's that? never heard of her." Maybe if I'm sporadic enough with my postings, "Big Brother" won't rap my knuckles. :) Now to head up thread and see what everyone is talking about this morning.

re: #209 ggt

That's definitely a down-ding in your annual review. It is perilous to risk the wrath of the overlords.

My usual punishment for empty waterbowls is a cat sitting on my chest yowling at 2am in the morning.

re: #212 Alouette

... a mixer ? What's that?...What's it do?...
/;-)

re: #211 RogueOne

I remember that panic. My parents were convinced Satanic ritual abuse of children had become completely common, and banned me from playing D&D.

Luckily, they didn't know what GURPS was.

re: #213 Ericus58

That's really cool.

TECHNOLOGY! SCIENCE! ENGINEERING! LABOR!

re: #218 SasyMomaCat

Morning, Lizards - possibly to my own detriment, I'm trying to post more often and hopefully get some cyber relationships going here. I feel like I know so many of you so well from reading for so long, but if someone were to mention my nic, most would probably say "who's that? never heard of her." Maybe if I'm sporadic enough with my postings, "Big Brother" won't rap my knuckles. :) Now to head up thread and see what everyone is talking about this morning.

Cat Overlord's mama?

She posts here?

I'm screwed.

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. I see that Bloomberg and Paterson are on the same page with Obamacare; they both see it as a huge hit to the state and city budgets because NY has been overly generous with the health care benefits for decades, and because the NY delegation played loyal soldier, they didn't get a better deal by holding out. So, NY will be screwed to the tune of billions in the long run - billions the state doesn't have because of structural deficits as far as the eye can see.

Meanwhile, on the Left Coast, we've got Sen. Feinstein proposing turning prime land for solar and wind power projects into a national monument precisely to thwart the construction of those alt-energy projects. How can anyone take these people seriously when it comes to renewable energy sources when they purposefully try to deprive siting them in locations that are best suited to provide them - desert climates that have low populations, are fairly close to population centers, and which are blessed by tons of sun?

re: #218 SasyMomaCat

There's very little knuckle-rapping, from what I've seen, for those who aren't knuckle-heads.

re: #218 SasyMomaCat

What is up, Moma?!

re: #214 Obdicut

You should try asking Charles, who has posted his very public criticism of McIntyre many times.

Why is everyone advoiding the question and trying to pass the buck. And I don't care what kind of criticism has been posted, nothing changes what McIntyre did or did do. If this "obsessive whack-job" found something wrong with someone's calculations, and he pointed it out, and corrections were made to some data, then it happened, and that's science... isn't it.

I'm don't even know what data, what incident, what anything that Ausador was talking about, I simply asked the questions I asked above. Seems like I can't get a straight answer.

re: #219 oaktree

My usual punishment for empty waterbowls is a cat sitting on my chest yowling at 2am in the morning.

That isn't punishment. That is the cat trying to steal your breath. You are waking up just in time.

re: #220 reloadingisnotahobby

My wife thinks an oven is something you store sweaters in.

re: #192 Mad Al-Jaffee

I'm probably going to buy myself the special edition Watchmen dvd.

What's the "special edition?" More boring then the regular edition?

re: #224 lawhawk

good post ...

re: #198 reloadingisnotahobby

I think the wife bought me an Ice Auger...
She has no idea it take at least a pint to get me on a frozen lake!

That doesn't appeal to me either. Additionally, with climate change, I'm thinking we must be mindful of its thickness and thus its ability to support weight.
Careful.

re: #227 Walter L. Newton

Why is everyone advoiding the question and trying to pass the buck. And I don't care what kind of criticism has been posted, nothing changes what McIntyre did or did do. If this "obsessive whack-job" found something wrong with someone's calculations, and he pointed it out, and corrections were made to some data, then it happened, and that's science... isn't it.

I'm don't even know what data, what incident, what anything that Ausador was talking about, I simply asked the questions I asked above. Seems like I can't get a straight answer.

A straight answer would require going "on the record".

re: #224 lawhawk

Oh "these people", what will they do next?

Can you explain why the Senate version is Obamacare? What's the House version?

From your article:

A health care overhaul passed by the House last month is more generous to the city and state, and negotiations over the differences start in January.

re: #227 Walter L. Newton

Why is everyone advoiding the question and trying to pass the buck. And I don't care what kind of criticism has been posted, nothing changes what McIntyre did or did do. If this "obsessive whack-job" found something wrong with someone's calculations, and he pointed it out, and corrections were made to some data, then it happened, and that's science... isn't it.

I'm don't even know what data, what incident, what anything that Ausador was talking about, I simply asked the questions I asked above. Seems like I can't get a straight answer.

it's the new times...people don't want to discuss anything important til Charles outs up a post

re: #232 Semper Fi

Zactly!!
I don't care if the "louder it pops the stronger it is"line of B.S.!!
Pass the bottle!!

re: #228 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That isn't punishment. That is the cat trying to steal your breath. You are waking up just in time.

GAZE

ooo... you're in trouble now. He's noticed you.

Not sure what their equivalent of black helicoptors are, but they're on the way...

// :)

re: #235 albusteve

it's the new times...people don't want to discuss anything important til Charles outs up a post

NEED.MORE.COFFEE to be serious

Crap. PIMF. I had "Cat overlord" in angle brackets both side of "GAZE" and they got stripped. No insult intended.

re: #234 Obdicut

Oh "these people", what will they do next?

Can you explain why the Senate version is Obamacare? What's the House version?

From your article:

because all 60 donk votes have finally been bought off...pretty simple

re: #234 Obdicut

Hey, are you satisfied with the Senate version of the bill that was just passed by the 60 senators?

re: #216 Semper Fi

Is that a newly released movie or ???
Showing my ignorance...

It was released this year, played in the theaters I think around March or April.

re: #240 albusteve

Well, not all of them had to be bought off. Some didn't realize they could be bought off until too late.

Ford is going for it...trying to break the grip of the UAW before it's too late

- Ford Motor Co said on Monday it is offering its 41,000 U.S. factory workers buyouts and early retirement offers in a bid to reduce its payroll costs as it aims to return to profit by 2011.

Last month, UAW workers overwhelmingly rejected a proposed cost-cutting deal for Ford that would have changed the terms of a labor contract which runs until 2011.

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

re: #227 Walter L. Newton

No, that's not science. As Feynman would say, that's paperwork.

Is there any reason you don't want to weigh his number of incorrect, disingenous, misleading, and flat out wrong 'contributions' against him? Why should an incredibly minor adjustment of a small figure count for so much, when he's also contributed so much dreck?

I really think you should read what Charles has posted on McIntyre.

For example, from this article, Charles posts about McIntyre:

The worst part of this misleading story: climate blogger Steve McIntyre claimed that tree ring data was withheld from him on purpose — but he had the raw data all along.

I've been having lots of fun with fiction this year. Found another free Sci-Fi podcast that is pretty good. Star Ship Sofa and am really enjoying the silliness and short stories. Escape Pod is also recommended.

re: #243 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Well, not all of them had to be bought off. Some didn't realize they could be bought off until too late.

Bill Nelson of Florida got some cash. But he could have gotten more by holding out.

re: #234 Obdicut

It's Obamacare because whatever he signs into law will be by his hand. It will be a reflection on him to "reform" health care, even if it blows up. He's the one who was pushing this, and then let Congress run wild. There are two subsets - Pelosicare and Reidcare, but the conference version will go to the President for signature, when he will own it. His mess. And our cost.

As to the costs, it has to do with Medicare and Medicaid reimbursements to the states. The Senate plan tries to wring out savings by cutting Medicare more than the House plan. That's how they're getting it "under" the self-imposed budget cap. Of course, everyone in Congress realizes that dealing with Medicare/Medicaid financing will need to be done in a separate bill, which isn't incorporated into the CBO cost estimates for the health care bill.

Nelson got a great deal for Nebraska by holding out; they wont have to pay a dime for Medicare in the state under the Senate plan; NY has to pay 50% of its costs (and quite likely more than that), all because NY has been providing that level of care all along (and which creates a whole different set of problems for NY since the State can't afford even that level of funding).

re: #243 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Not ALL politican think...Hey!How much is my vote worth?

re: #215 ggt

beter than my spellin' ;)

re: #243 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Well, not all of them had to be bought off. Some didn't realize they could be bought off until too late.

right, but it was a naive question to begin with

re: #241 Walter L. Newton

No. I don't like either of the bills. They're a mixmash of quite a lot of things, and I'm very frustrated with both Obama and the Democrats for screwing up something that should have been a lot easier. They let themselves get blown away by the noise machine, and looked like chumps. Then they started giving away the farm to court Republicans who were never, ever going to vote for it anyway.

The bill is very slightly better than the current mess, but the issue will have to be revisited soon.

re: #236 reloadingisnotahobby

Zactly!!
I don't care if the "louder it pops the stronger it is"line of B.S.!!
Pass the bottle!!

I'm witcha'

re: #248 lawhawk

My question was why you are using the Senate version and calling it Obamacare? The criticism you first posted only applies to the Senate version, not the House one. So why do you consider the Senate one Obamacare, and not the House one, which will have to be reconciled with it?

re: #244 albusteve

Ford is going for it...trying to break the grip of the UAW before it's too late

- Ford Motor Co said on Monday it is offering its 41,000 U.S. factory workers buyouts and early retirement offers in a bid to reduce its payroll costs as it aims to return to profit by 2011.

Last month, UAW workers overwhelmingly rejected a proposed cost-cutting deal for Ford that would have changed the terms of a labor contract which runs until 2011.

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

That is going to be an ugly fight. With the UAW basically owning the competition (GM) I'm wondering how this isn't a huge conflict of interest.

re: #224 lawhawk

and the band plays on...
Two-Faced

re: #245 Obdicut

No, that's not science. As Feynman would say, that's paperwork.

Is there any reason you don't want to weigh his number of incorrect, disingenous, misleading, and flat out wrong 'contributions' against him? Why should an incredibly minor adjustment of a small figure count for so much, when he's also contributed so much dreck?

I really think you should read what Charles has posted on McIntyre.

For example, from this article, Charles posts about McIntyre:

Still won't answer my simple question, will you? I don't care what Charles thinks of McIntyre, I don't care what you think of him, I don't care what his detractors think of him.

My question is simple, did he or didn't he discover something about someone's calculations that required adjustment?

re: #242 Mad Al-Jaffee

It was released this year, played in the theaters I think around March or April.

I'll be on the lookout for that one. Thanks.

re: #249 reloadingisnotahobby

Not ALL politican think...Hey!How much is my vote worth?

They'll do better next time.
/

re: #259 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

They'll do better next time.
/

Are yoiu asking Blagohair?

re: #253 Semper Fi

It's also a bad sign when the oldtimers that have all the bitchen
"gear" are wearing life vests!;-0

re: #260 ggt

Are yoiu asking Blagohair?

that should have been directed towards Reloading.