TSA Threatens Bloggers for Posting New Screening Rules

Now here’s a story that really is outrageous, as the TSA subpoenas and confiscates the computers of two bloggers who posted their new screening directive — even though the document was not classified.

Two bloggers received home visits from Transportation Security Administration agents Tuesday after they published a new TSA directive that revises screening procedures and puts new restrictions on passengers in the wake of a recent bombing attempt by the so-called underwear bomber.

Special agents from the TSA’s Office of Inspection interrogated two U.S. bloggers, one of them an established travel columnist, and served them each with a civil subpoena demanding information on the anonymous source that provided the TSA document.

The document, which the two bloggers published within minutes of each other Dec. 27, was sent by TSA to airlines and airports around the world and described temporary new requirements for screening passengers through Dec. 30, including conducting “pat-downs” of legs and torsos. The document, which was not classified, was posted by numerous bloggers. Information from it was also published on some airline websites.

“They’re saying it’s a security document but it was sent to every airport and airline,” says Steven Frischling, one of the bloggers. “It was sent to Islamabad, to Riyadh and to Nigeria. So they’re looking for information about a security document sent to 10,000-plus people internationally. You can’t have a right to expect privacy after that.”

Transportation Security Administration spokeswoman Suzanne Trevino said in a statement that security directives “are not for public disclosure.”

“TSA’s Office of Inspections is currently investigating how the recent Security Directives were acquired and published by parties who should not have been privy to this information,” the statement said.

Frischling, a freelance travel writer and photographer in Connecticut who writes a blog for the KLM Royal Dutch Airlines, said the two agents who visited him arrived around 7 p.m. Tuesday, were armed and threatened him with a criminal search warrant if he didn’t provide the name of his source. They also threatened to get him fired from his KLM job and indicated they could get him designated a security risk, which would make it difficult for him to travel and do his job.

“They were indicating there would be significant ramifications if I didn’t cooperate,” said Frischling, who was home alone with his three children when the agents arrived. “It’s not hard to intimidate someone when they’re holding a 3-year-old [child] in their hands. My wife works at night. I go to jail, and my kids are here with nobody.”

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1 MandyManners  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 11:28:38am

Is it okay to call them jack-booted thugs?

2 Kragar  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 11:29:36am

WTF? We're not supposed to know what the regulations are?

3 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 11:30:14am

How was your trip, Charles?

4 MandyManners  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 11:30:45am

“It’s not hard to intimidate someone when they’re holding a 3-year-old [child] in their hands. My wife works at night. I go to jail, and my kids are here with nobody.”

The TSA folks probably would've had the kids taken by CPS and made it difficult to get them back.

5 Charles Johnson  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 11:30:54am

re: #3 Alouette

How was your trip, Charles?

Argh.

6 bosforus  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 11:31:40am
The document, which was not classified, was posted by numerous bloggers. Information from it was also published on some airline websites.
...
“TSA’s Office of Inspections is currently investigating how the recent Security Directives were acquired and published by parties who should not have been privy to this information,” the statement said.

Well, you've got the airlines publishing it as well so what's your beef?

7 osprey34229  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 11:31:43am

BIG SIS IS ON THE JOB !!

8 Gang of One  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 11:32:04am

Your tax dollars/government at work. And these are the same breed of assclowns we are being told are going to take care of all our health concerns?
My brain hurts.

9 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 11:32:20am

re: #3 Alouette

How was your trip, Charles?

I'm guessing that the ministrations of the TSA weren't the high point of his trip.

10 MandyManners  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 11:33:08am

re: #8 Gang of One

Your tax dollars/government at work. And these are the same breed of assclowns we are being told are going to take care of all our health concerns?
My brain hurts.

Take off your shoes, bend over and cough.

11 MandyManners  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 11:33:28am

re: #6 bosforus

Well, you've got the airlines publishing it as well so what's your beef?

We plebes aren't allowed.

12 Gang of One  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 11:33:33am

re: #10 MandyManners

Take off your shoes, bend over and cough.

OK, but be gentle.

13 Gearhead  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 11:34:04am
Transportation Security Administration spokeswoman Suzanne Trevino said in a statement that security directives “are not for public disclosure.”
...
The document, which was not classified, was posted by numerous bloggers. Information from it was also published on some airline websites.

Lemme guess: that "system worked", too.

14 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 11:34:41am

re: #10 MandyManners

Take off your shoes, bend over and cough.

"Wadaya using the whole fist, Doc?"
Fletch

15 Gearhead  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 11:35:14am

re: #14 Cannadian Club Akbar

"Wadaya using the whole fist, Doc?"
Fletch

Moonnn Riverrr....

16 jdog29  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 11:35:25am

this is really just a preview for another Colburt repurt.... C'mon man...

17 Gang of One  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 11:37:06am

Mandy,

Who buys who the first round of Basil Hayden's?
/Drink!
//*WHACK*

18 MandyManners  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 11:37:11am

They also threatened to get him fired from his KLM job

Is TSA really that powerful?

19 dugmartsch  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 11:37:29am

Okay. Now you can fire Janet.

20 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 11:38:04am

re: #14 Cannadian Club Akbar

"Wadaya using the whole fist, Doc?"
Fletch

21 Gearhead  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 11:41:25am

re: #18 MandyManners

They also threatened to get him fired from his KLM job

Is TSA really that powerful?

How in the world did a Dutch company get TARP money?
//

22 theliel  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 11:41:49am

I doubt any of this is Mrs. whaazzerhname
the person to fire would be the Manager of TSA agents directly, then investigate the head.
y'know, the interrum guy because soem assclown senetor thinks it'd be terrible if TSA screeners made more than minimum wage...
this is simple ass-covering, pure and simple. These guys know that the rules were pointless and overblow, and that they're on the very edge of utterly fucked, so now it's time to bring in the Jackboots and see if things can be contained before something REALLy damaging comes out.

23 researchok  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 11:41:51am

Unbelievable story.

The TSA people at the top need to read that Hitchens article Charle's posted.

24 Gus  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 11:43:15am

Sounds like a form of revenge. They're very quick in handing over a subpoena to Christopher Elliott but a lot slower with everything else. The public will only see this as the TSA diverting attention from the situation at hand and that does not include disseminating unclassified documents.

So, when do they hand over a subpoena to the CIA and DHS?

25 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 11:44:59am

re: #22 theliel

I doubt any of this is Mrs. whaazzerhname
the person to fire would be the Manager of TSA agents directly, then investigate the head.
y'know, the interrum guy because soem assclown senetor thinks it'd be terrible if TSA screeners made more than minimum wage...
this is simple ass-covering, pure and simple. These guys know that the rules were pointless and overblow, and that they're on the very edge of utterly fucked, so now it's time to bring in the Jackboots and see if things can be contained before something REALLy damaging comes out.

Power lacks imagination.

26 ssn697  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 11:49:18am

No time to chase terrorists. We've got bloggers to harass!

27 Blueheron  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 11:49:34am

re: #5 Charles

Argh.

Hi Charles....it was really boring around here w/o you.

28 Blueheron  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 11:50:58am

re: #7 osprey34229

BIG SIS IS ON THE JOB !!

Wish Pres Obama would do something about that and soon.

29 Blueheron  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 11:52:13am

re: #12 Gang of One

OK, but be gentle.


You give up to easily!

30 [deleted]  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 11:53:42am
31 jaunte  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 11:53:58am

re: #26 ssn697

No time to chase terrorists. We've got bloggers to harass!

The thing about bureaucracies is that they will always do the really easy jobs first.

32 HelloDare  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 11:54:23am

The obvious question:

What would the left's reaction be if this happened under the Bush administration?

33 osprey34229  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 11:54:47am

Hell just a few days ago tsa posted their own
operations manual on the net. No heads rolled for
that fu!!

34 Kragar  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 11:54:50am

re: #26 ssn697

No time to chase terrorists. We've got bloggers to harass!

When you can't do your job right, the next best thing is to go after the people who point it out.

35 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 11:56:17am

re: #32 HelloDare

The obvious question:

What would the left's reaction be if this happened under the Bush administration?

A fresh round of threats to move to Canada.

36 Blueheron  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 11:56:29am

re: #32 HelloDare

The obvious question:

What would the left's reaction be if this happened under the Bush administration?

Total foaming at the mouth insanity! lolol

37 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 11:56:39am

Does TSA stand for "Totally Stupid Assholes"?

38 Blueheron  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 11:57:17am

re: #35 The Sanity Inspector

A fresh round of threats to move to Canada.

Now THAT was funny :))

39 Interesting Times  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 11:58:38am
The agents searched through Frischling’s BlackBerry and iPhone and questioned him about a number of phone numbers and messages in the devices. One number listed in his phone under “ICEMOM” was a quick dial to his mother, in case of emergency. The agents misunderstood the acronym and became suspicious that it was code for his anonymous source and asked if his source worked for ICE — the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

RIP satire. You put up an admirable fight, but reality has overtaken you for good.

40 Gang of One  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 11:59:05am

re: #29 Blueheron

You give up to easily!

We ARE talking about Mandy here.
//*WHACK*

41 Gus  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 11:59:18am

So they fail to stop the underwear bomber on several intelligence government agency levels and instead turn airline travel into an experience not unlike that of a penal colony.

42 MandyManners  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 11:59:29am

re: #32 HelloDare

The obvious question:

What would the left's reaction be if this happened under the Bush administration?

BLACK HELICOPTERS! CHEMTRAILS! SHAPE-SHIFTING REPTILIAN ALIENS!

43 Gearhead  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 11:59:36am

Am I right in thinking that the new rules would have been anything but secret after the first couple of weeks? With so many flights, so many passengers every day, and so many rules to navigate, people are going to share information with fellow travelers.

44 Gus  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:00:06pm

re: #39 publicityStunted

RIP satire. You put up an admirable fight, but reality has overtaken you for good.

ICEMOM? Uh oh, we need to pat-down ICEweasel. Could be from ICE!

/

45 Gearhead  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:00:51pm

re: #37 Mad Al-Jaffee

Does TSA stand for "Totally Stupid Assholes"?

Like Tom Daschle once said, "You can't professionalize unless you federalize."

46 sattv4u2  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:01:20pm

re: #44 Gus 802

ICEMOM? Uh oh, we need to pat-down ICEweasel. Could be from ICE!

/

You may get a punch in the mouth from jimmah, though!
/

47 HelloDare  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:02:45pm

re: #42 MandyManners

BLACK HELICOPTERS! CHEMTRAILS! SHAPE-SHIFTING REPTILIAN ALIENS!

Hey, those shape-shifting reptilian aliens are real. Those black helicopters don't fly themselves.

48 Gang of One  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:04:59pm

re: #47 HelloDare

Hey, those shape-shifting reptilian aliens are real. Those black helicopters don't fly themselves.

The black helicopters ARE the shape-shifting reptiles. Why d'ya think they're called shape shifters?

49 MandyManners  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:06:29pm

re: #47 HelloDare

Hey, those shape-shifting reptilian aliens are real. Those black helicopters don't fly themselves.

re: #48 Gang of One

The black helicopters ARE the shape-shifting reptiles. Why d'ya think they're called shape shifters?

You both would give David Icke nightmares.

50 Gang of One  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:07:06pm

re: #49 MandyManners

You both would give David Icke nightmares.

In bed?

51 Gearhead  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:07:19pm

re: #48 Gang of One

The black helicopters ARE the shape-shifting reptiles. Why d'ya think they're called shape shifters?

Where are Bumblebee and Optimus Prime when you need 'em?

52 Gang of One  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:08:56pm

re: #51 Gearhead

Where are Bumblebee and Optimus Prime when you need 'em?

Getting inspected at the DMV, I would imagine.

53 Sinistershade  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:09:31pm

re: #32 HelloDare

The obvious question:

What would the left's reaction be if this happened under the Bush administration?

About the same as when it happens under the Obama administration — it's an absurd abuse of power.

The thread of authoritarianism in the executive isn't really a Democrat/Republican issue, though it's spiked noticeably in the years since the 9/11 attacks. With appalling bipartisan support, I might add.

54 Gus  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:10:08pm

So, here's the pat-down blurb:

1. Perform thorough pat-down of all passengers at boarding gate prior to boarding, concentrating on upper legs and torso.

2. Physically inspect 100 percent of all passenger accessible property at the boarding gate prior to boarding, with focus on syringes being transported along with powders and/or liquids.

It says to concentrate on the the upper legs and torso. The device Abdulmutallab had in place was not located in his upper legs nor his torso. It was located in his crotch.

55 HelloDare  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:10:09pm

re: #48 Gang of One

The black helicopters ARE the shape-shifting reptiles. Why d'ya think they're called shape shifters?

Transformers? Are the helicopters are controlled by their stick, so too speak?

56 Velvet Elvis  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:11:31pm

re: #50 Gang of One

In bed?

Isn't that where one usually has nightmares?

57 Randall Gross  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:12:06pm

This "tight reign on info because we don't want to panic the public" idiocy has got to stop.

The reality is that there could have been several other undie bombers on planes at the same time out there, and nobody flying including most of the pilots flying domestic routes knew jack about it.

I remember thinking "this is more than firecrackers, who the heck is hiding what" when I posted the first story on that Christmas day in spinoffs.

58 HelloDare  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:13:19pm

This tepid response from a piece on the story at Huffpost. Nothing about Obama going for a third term or anything.

So instead of catching terrorists, they go after bloggers who got ahold of their stupid security procedures that make them look like idiots.

Standard big government.

How about they just act like professionals and admit their SD was crap and a knee jerk reaction. Rescind the worthless procedures and focus on keeping terrorists trying to kill us all off the plane in the first place.

59 Randall Gross  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:14:22pm

The problem wasn't that too much information was released, the problem was too little.

60 lawhawk  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:14:58pm

CYA mode in operation. They'll come down harder on the bloggers than they are on trying to close the holes in security that you can drive a syringe and undies laden with explosives through.

Once again, we've got political leaders who think that adding more bureaucracies is the answer to national security, rather than actually taking steps that physically improve security. Creating DHS and TSA and shifting around a whole bunch of alphabet agencies didn't make us safer. Better communication among existing agencies did.

However, we've still got problems where the CIA, NSA, FBI, and other alphabet agencies aren't sharing information in a timely fashion. Adding more layers of bureaucracy, including creating new intel positions that push existing agencies down the totem pole don't make us safer if they're not communicating with each other.

We've still got DHS/TSA agents going after grannies rather than saving their searches for those who are more likely to be carrying explosives and weapons on board in their granny panties.

61 MandyManners  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:15:05pm

Why wasn't the security level upped to red?

62 Gang of One  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:15:33pm

re: #56 Conservative Moonbat

Isn't that where one usually has nightmares?

I have them sitting at my desk, and sometimes when I am standing in front of my students. But that's a topic for a member's-only Lizard Lounge® thread.

63 Gus  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:17:13pm

This is going to hurt...

TSA Salutes a 'Very Good Year' Despite 2009 Security Failures
End-of-the-Year Message Was Sent Hours Before Northwest Bomber Cleared Airport Security and Boarded Plane with No Federal Air Marshals

In an end-of-the-year message sent after a year of harsh criticism and hours before a man with a bomb sailed through airport security and flew to the United States, the acting administrator of the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) boasted of the agency's "very good year" and cited "cutting edge" technological advancements and efforts by federal air marshals that were "keeping the skies safe."

The message made no mention of TSA snafus over 2009, including several highly critical reports by the inspector general for the Department of Homeland Security and the inadvertent posting on the internet of confidential documents revealing airport security procedures.

64 Gang of One  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:17:33pm

re: #59 Thanos

The problem wasn't that too much information was released, the problem was too little.

Or perhaps that any was released?

65 sattv4u2  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:18:45pm

re: #63 Gus 802

TSA Salutes a 'Very Good Year' Despite 2009 Security Failures

"Yes Mrs. Lincoln, but aside from that, did you enjoy the play?"

66 Gang of One  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:20:18pm

re: #65 sattv4u2

TSA Salutes a 'Very Good Year' Despite 2009 Security Failures

"Yes Mrs. Lincoln, but aside from that, did you enjoy the play?"

Bad sattv4u2, bad.
/As martini dribbles through my nostril ...

67 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:21:42pm

re: #65 sattv4u2

TSA Salutes a 'Very Good Year' Despite 2009 Security Failures

"Yes Mrs. Lincoln, but aside from that, did you enjoy the play?"

"Aside from that, Mrs. Kennedy, how was Dallas?"

68 Gang of One  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:24:23pm

re: #61 MandyManners

Why wasn't the security level upped to red?

My guess is that they did not want to alarm anyone during the holidays.
///

69 SteveC  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:25:00pm

From the TSA website:

TSA Week at a Glance, 12/14/09 to 12/21/09
* 21 passengers were arrested after investigations of suspicious behavior or fraudulent travel documents
* 37 firearms found at checkpoints
* 3 artfully concealed prohibited items found at checkpoints
* 37 incidents that involved a checkpoint closure, terminal evacuation or sterile area breach

... and a partridge in a pear treeeeeeeeeeeeee!

70 lawhawk  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:26:02pm

re: #63 Gus 802

B+. /

Seriously though, these self-declared scores and pats on the back are inane given that a single breach of this nature (Mutallab's attack) can result in the deaths of hundreds of people. Every few weeks you have reports on how airport screeners have failed to detect all manner of weapons in tests (for an idea about what the screeners have to do , check this out) or have other kinds of security breaches. Porous borders, visas that are issued to those who shouldn't receive them, and all other manner of border control failures, all of which can provide a terrorist with the means to enter and carry out attacks against the US or aircraft entering the US.

71 Ojoe  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:27:09pm

I feel really well protected by bureaucracies in general.

/ 9

72 SixDegrees  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:27:11pm

As I pointed out yesterday, it doesn't matter whether the material was classified or not - the United States does NOT have anything like an Official Secrets Act making possession or dissemination of classified documents illegal. Classified material is controlled through contracts with the specific individuals who are read on to classified programs, and it is violation of that contract that will land you in Leavenworth. Unless these bloggers worked for the TSA and had signed such an agreement, the did nothing illegal by publishing the material. Period. End of story.

"Outrageous" doesn't even begin to describe this behavior on the part of the TSA. It is completely illegal, over the top intimidation, and these bloggers should now have a nice, juicy lawsuit against the TSA warming on the front burner.

It also underlines the sheer incompetence of the TSA who, charged with security and law enforcement, is either too stupid to understand the laws that apply to itself or so arrogant that they feel breaking the law is acceptable.

The proper response to the empty threats slung around by these thugs would have been, "Bring it. Let's see your search warrant, let's see you get me fired. Now, get the fuck off my property."

Add these morons to the growing list of idiots who need to be summarily fired from the nation's security agencies.

73 Gus  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:27:20pm

In 2008, the TSA had a 20% attrition rate. The rest of the Feds had a rate of 8%.

Here's a general tsa + attrition Google search. You may notice that the first three links are basically TSA PR subject, "the truth about TSA attrition!"

74 Gang of One  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:28:05pm

re: #71 Ojoe

I feel really well protected by bureaucracies in general.

/ 9

As well you should, comrade. Next ...

75 MandyManners  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:28:05pm

re: #69 SteveC

From the TSA website:


... and a partridge in a pear treee!

TSA would choke the partridge.

76 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:28:51pm

re: #75 MandyManners

TSA would choke the partridge.

What would it do to the chicken?

77 MandyManners  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:29:47pm

re: #72 SixDegrees

Did they even have jurisdiciton?

78 Sinistershade  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:30:02pm

Am I the only one who finds the idea that we can completely secure a system that regularly carries over 800,000,000 passengers per year ridiculous?

I'm surprised not that a bomber got through the security efforts but that only one seems to have done so in recent years. Certainly we should take reasonable precautions and make the system as secure as reality permits, but the idea that we can ever be "safe" or that the system will ever be airtight is silly.

Making political hay from or prostrating ourselves over the "failures" of airline security is even sillier.

79 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:30:29pm

re: #54 Gus 802

2. Physically inspect 100 percent of all passenger accessible property at the boarding gate prior to boarding, with focus on syringes being transported along with powders and/or liquids.

Gotta watch out for all those elderly diabetics with their insulin and their bags of meds!

No wonder Zedushka gets the second and third tier of security screening.

80 Gearhead  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:31:40pm

re: #75 MandyManners

TSA would choke the partridge.

That's what they're doing in their offices all day...

81 Gang of One  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:32:05pm

re: #78 Sinistershade

Am I the only one who finds the idea that we can completely secure a system that regularly carries over 800,000,000 passengers per year ridiculous?

I'm surprised not that a bomber got through the security efforts but that only one seems to have done so in recent years. Certainly we should take reasonable precautions and make the system as secure as reality permits, but the idea that we can ever be "safe" or that the system will ever be airtight is silly.

Making political hay from or prostrating ourselves over the "failures" of airline security is even sillier.

Sinister,

This guy got through Holland's security. But he was on a no-fly list which should have meant everyone involved be on the same page; we were not. I see your point, though.

82 Ojoe  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:32:06pm

re: #78 Sinistershade

True security would be proactive in a "take it to them and make them fundamentally change their minds" way.

We will have this conflict until then.

83 SixDegrees  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:32:08pm

And another thing: this sort of illegal harassment far exceeds any of the nightmarish scenarios of jackbooted thugs that were dreamed up during the last Administration over how various reasonable extensions of law enforcement powers that were long overdue were going to allow the Secret Service (or was it the Gestapo?) to kick down our doors in the middle of the night and haul us off into oblivion with no charges or judicial oversight. Here, we have an example of behavior that intersects all of those fears. Yet a quick check of the leftward blogosphere shows not a peep of outrage.

Hypocritical fucks.

84 MandyManners  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:32:18pm

Why do people even open their doors to strangers?

85 lawhawk  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:33:15pm

re: #73 Gus 802

Yes, the TSA goes on to say that don't blame us for high attrition, we're different than the rest of the federal gov't and we have to do more interpersonal interactions, rather than just administration.

You mean like the entire service-based economy that seems to have the basics of interpersonal relationships figured out among successful companies?

86 Gang of One  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:33:48pm

re: #84 MandyManners

Why do people even open their doors to strangers?

They bring mail and packages.

87 SteveC  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:33:55pm
2. Physically inspect 100 percent of all passenger accessible property at the boarding gate prior to boarding, with focus on syringes being transported along with powders and/or liquids.

Oh, boy, I saw this one when Alouette made his comment #79. I've got medication in my laptop bag, divided in those little day organizers. Hopefully these guys will calm down soon.

88 MtnCat  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:34:10pm

Bureaucratic Nanny-Statism. Do not question us, do not think critically. Submit and obey. We have your safety and best interests in mind. Trust us!

89 SteveC  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:34:39pm

re: #75 MandyManners

TSA would choke the partridge.

So that's what the kids are calling it these days! (bed optional)

90 brookly red  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:36:07pm

re: #87 SteveC

Oh, boy, I saw this one when Alouette made his comment #79. I've got medication in my laptop bag, divided in those little day organizers. Hopefully these guys will calm down soon.

I don't see that happening...

91 Gus  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:36:31pm

re: #85 lawhawk

Yes, the TSA goes on to say that don't blame us for high attrition, we're different than the rest of the federal gov't and we have to do more interpersonal interactions, rather than just administration.

You mean like the entire service-based economy that seems to have the basics of interpersonal relationships figured out among successful companies?

I sense another congressional hearing coming up early next year. Followed by another re-design and reports.

Tried that interactive test and got 50% threats. Funny hearing those people complaining -- must have recorded that in Newark, NJ.

92 HelloDare  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:37:03pm

Woman's blood alcohol content topples state records

A Sturgis woman had a blood-alcohol level of .708 percent, possibly a state record, when she was found earlier this month behind the wheel of a stolen vehicle parked on Interstate 90, according to Meade County State’s Attorney Jesse Sondreal.

A South Dakota Highway Patrol trooper discovered Marguerite Engle, 45, on Dec. 1 passed out behind the wheel of a delivery truck reported stolen in Rapid City.

Her blood-alcohol level was almost nine times South Dakota’s legal limit of .08 percent.

Checks with local and state labs where blood-alcohol levels are tested suggest Engle’s reading may be the highest ever recorded in South Dakota, Sondreal said.

Sondreal said a state chemist recalled a sample that tested .53, but nothing higher, in his more than 30 years on the job.

Dr. Robert Looyenga, who recently retired from the Rapid City Police Department’s forensic laboratory, told Sondreal that the highest blood-alcohol sample he tested measured .56 percent.

Sondreal’s research indicates that a blood-alcohol level of .40 is considered a lethal dose for about 50 percent of the population.

“Engle’s was almost double that,” Sondreal said.

After she was found, Engle was hospitalized and freed on bond.

She failed to appear in court on Dec. 15, but Sturgis police located her Monday evening in another stolen car sitting in a ditch along S.D. Highway 34 near Fort Meade.

Engle was arrested for second offense driving under the influence and taken to jail.

Engle made her initial appearance in Meade County magistrate court Tuesday. She is being held without bond.

Sondreal said Engle has been living in a hotel after recently moving here from Minnesota.

Engle is most likely facing charges in Pennington County since both vehicles were stolen in Rapid City, Sondreal said.

93 MandyManners  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:37:25pm

re: #86 Gang of One

They bring mail and packages.

Two guys in suits?

94 SixDegrees  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:37:51pm

re: #77 MandyManners

Did they even have jurisdiciton?

I think not. I strongly suspect they should never have been at these homes in the first place, and should have handed the matter over to the FBI.

Notice that they just shouldered their way in and started making demands, backed up with threats - we'll get a search warrant and take your computer, we'll make it hard for you to work and hard for you to travel, etc. They didn't actually

have

a search warrant, and they certainly don't have the authority to abuse what powers they do have as a form of retaliation. And I'm betting they knew all that, and decided to bully their way as far as possible.

I hope these guys sue their asses off, and then gets their assless hides booted out of their jobs. Along with whoever their idiot supervisor is, who either approved such illegal behavior or failed in proper training or just needs to be made an example of.

It's not like there aren't people in this country who are looking for work.

95 SteveC  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:38:15pm

re: #90 brookly red

I don't see that happening...

all my meds are in pill form, but it only takes one irritated/agitated person to mess up a wonderful plan!

96 seltzer123  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:38:44pm

How come there is such a large discrepancy between the Wired article and the comments from the blogger on his Blog?

[Link: boardingarea.com...]

Is this really something to worry about or is the Wired article just trying to get everybody riled up?

97 MandyManners  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:39:37pm

re: #94 SixDegrees

What would they have done if he had simply refused to open the door?

98 Gang of One  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:39:45pm

re: #93 MandyManners

Two guys in suits?

One is a uniformed government agent, the other is just making a living.

99 lawhawk  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:40:24pm

re: #78 Sinistershade

There have been quite a few hijackings since 2001, aircraft bombings in Russia, Richard Reid, etc.

No system is perfect, but not following common sense is dangerous.

100 Blueheron  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:40:31pm

re: #54 Gus 802

So, here's the pat-down blurb:


It says to concentrate on the the upper legs and torso. The device Abdulmutallab had in place was not located in his upper legs nor his torso. It was located in his crotch.

Ain't nobody paying me enough to do that job :(

101 MandyManners  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:40:53pm

re: #98 Gang of One

One is a uniformed government agent, the other is just making a living.

Huh?

102 Gearhead  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:40:54pm

re: #92 HelloDare

She failed to appear in court on Dec. 15, but Sturgis police located her Monday evening in another stolen car sitting in a ditch along S.D. Highway 34 near Fort Meade.

Nothing I type could possibly be more absurd than the real story.

103 cliffster  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:41:08pm

re: #94 SixDegrees

One of those things that only happens in movies. Right? Right?

104 Gang of One  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:41:09pm

re: #97 MandyManners

What would they have done if he had simply refused to open the door?

They would have sulked away, no doubt.

105 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:42:10pm

re: #92 HelloDare

She had too much blood in her alcohol system.

106 Gang of One  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:42:10pm

re: #101 MandyManners

Huh?

Mail carrier. DHL, UPS, FedEx ...
//bad humor, I guess.

107 MandyManners  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:42:17pm

re: #104 Gang of One

They would have sulked away, no doubt.

With their tails between their legs.

108 Gus  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:42:23pm

re: #60 lawhawk

Here's a list of intelligence agencies from Wiki:

Office of the Director of National Intelligence
Independent Agencies
Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)
Air Force Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance Agency (AF ISR) AIA
Army CID (CID)
Military Intelligence
Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA)
Marine Corps Intelligence Activity
National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA)
National Reconnaissance Office (NRO)
National Security Agency (NSA)
Naval Criminal Investigative Service (NCIS)
Office of Naval Intelligence (ONI)
United States Department of Energy
Office of Intelligence and Counterintelligence
United States Secret Service
Coast Guard Intelligence
Office of Intelligence and Analysis
Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), Directorate of Intelligence
Drug Enforcement Administration, Office of National Security Intelligence (DEA)
Bureau of Intelligence and Research (INR)
Office of Terrorism and Financial Intelligence

Anyone care to herd some cats?

109 SteveC  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:42:32pm

re: #93 MandyManners

Two guys in suits?

The Men in Black!

But then like BOOM black suits fill the room up.
With the quickness talk with the witnesses,
Hypnotizer, neuralizer.
Vivid memories turn to fantasies.
Ain't no M.I.B.'s.
Can I please,
Do what we say that's the way we kick it.
Ya know what I mean,
I say my noisy cricket get wicked on ya.
We're your first, last and only line of defence,
Against the worst scum of the universe.
So don't fear us, cheer us.
If you ever get near us, don't jeer us.
We're the fearless.
M.I.B.'s freezin' up all the flack.
What's that stand for?
Men In Black.

110 Gang of One  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:42:57pm

re: #105 Mad Al-Jaffee

She had too much blood in her alcohol system.

Yeah. I hate when that happens.

111 MandyManners  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:43:06pm

re: #106 Gang of One

Mail carrier. DHL, UPS, FedEx ...
//bad humor, I guess.

I love the guys in brown shorts. Makes me wanna' ship empty boxes to myself.

112 SixDegrees  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:43:13pm

re: #97 MandyManners

What would they have done if he had simply refused to open the door?

All they would have legally been able to do is stamp their widdle feet and whine, from what I've heard. They had no warrant, and therefore had no power to force entry had the homeowner refused. I doubt they even had the power to be there at all in the first place. As noted, no law has been broken by the simple publication of these documents, no matter if they were classified or not.

113 MandyManners  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:44:30pm

re: #112 SixDegrees

All they would have legally been able to do is stamp their widdle feet and whine, from what I've heard. They had no warrant, and therefore had no power to force entry had the homeowner refused. I doubt they even had the power to be there at all in the first place. As noted, no law has been broken by the simple publication of these documents, no matter if they were classified or not.

I wonder if Steven Frischling has contacted an attorney yet.

114 Gang of One  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:45:32pm

re: #111 MandyManners

I love the guys in brown shorts. Makes me wanna' ship empty boxes to myself.

Is it the brown, is it the shorts, is it the guy, is it all three or a combination thereof?
/Rhetorical question -- no need to respond.

115 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:46:40pm

re: #87 SteveC

Oh, boy, I saw this one when Alouette made his comment #79. I've got medication in my laptop bag, divided in those little day organizers. Hopefully these guys will calm down soon.

Bet you'll be required to have it in the original labeled bottles soon. They already do that in the Transportation industry - as a trucker I could not keep my meds in an organizer.

William

116 MandyManners  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:47:23pm

re: #114 Gang of One

Is it the brown, is it the shorts, is it the guy, is it all three or a combination thereof?/Rhetorical question -- no need to respond.

Yeah.

117 SixDegrees  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:47:47pm

re: #113 MandyManners

I wonder if Steven Frischling has contacted an attorney yet.

I sure hope so. If not, I'm certain one will be contacting him shortly to offer their services.

118 rwmofo  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:47:57pm

We could have used these guys when the NY Times was publishing classified information leaked by State Department employees related to surveillance methods used to track terrorists.

Oh, this is what the MSM preferred to call "Domestic Spying" - on international terrorists.

119 SteveC  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:48:16pm

re: #111 MandyManners

I love the guys in brown shorts. Makes me wanna' ship empty boxes to myself.

My cousin is a HUGE supporter of the Toys for Tots program and has a drop-box in her T-shirt shop. Her husband contends that she undergoes a "hormonal reaction" when the Marine in his dress blues stops by to make the pick up.

Come to think of it, she does have trouble speaking in complete sentences for the rest of the day!

120 MandyManners  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:48:45pm

re: #119 SteveC

My cousin is a HUGE supporter of the Toys for Tots program and has a drop-box in her T-shirt shop. Her husband contends that she undergoes a "hormonal reaction" when the Marine in his dress blues stops by to make the pick up.

Come to think of it, she does have trouble speaking in complete sentences for the rest of the day!

So would I.

121 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:49:09pm

re: #92 HelloDare

This is getting embarrassing. Would y'all stop talking about my mom already. Ya bunch-a gossips!
/

122 webevintage  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:49:59pm

re: #84 MandyManners

Why do people even open their doors to strangers?

I have no idea.
I have a sign on the door that I put after a long week of Witnesses, guys selling steak and 2 Baptist Churches wanting to let me know about the revivals that were coming up. These folks make my 3 dogs go crazy.

"NO SOLICITORS
Please Go Away If You are selling something….even Jesus.
No salesmen, Baptists, Evangelicals, Jehovah Witnesses.
You folks annoy me and make my dogs bark.

Post Office, UPS, friends and family?
You guys are always welcome at our house.
Thanks for coming by!"

It works.
I had people come up to the steps, read the note and turn around and go bother my neighbors. People who know me just laugh at it.

123 webevintage  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:50:34pm

re: #120 MandyManners

So would I.

me too....

124 SteveC  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:51:54pm

re: #122 webevintage

"NO SOLICITORS
Please Go Away If You are selling something….even Jesus.
No salesmen, Baptists, Evangelicals, Jehovah Witnesses.
You folks annoy me and make my dogs bark.

Post Office, UPS, friends and family?
You guys are always welcome at our house.
Thanks for coming by!"

No Baptists?

No Casserole for you! :)

125 SixDegrees  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:51:55pm

re: #87 SteveC

Oh, boy, I saw this one when Alouette made his comment #79. I've got medication in my laptop bag, divided in those little day organizers. Hopefully these guys will calm down soon.

Hell, I'm diabetic. I carry my medication with me at all times. And it consists of vials of liquid (insulin) along with syringes for dispensing it. I also always carry a letter from my doctor with a list of everything I'm prescribed, and keep everything in it's original packaging with prescription labels intact.

But still, let's be realistic - the guys running the TSA checkpoints mostly cast longing glances down the hall toward the McDonalds in the airprot food court because they view it as a step up in life. "Duhr, syringy...go that way!" is going to be their response, as they point toward a little room with no windows and a box of latex gloves.

126 Blueheron  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:54:34pm

re: #95 SteveC

all my meds are in pill form, but it only takes one irritated/agitated person to mess up a wonderful plan!

I carry a small bag full of meds. A TSA agent pulled me aside and asked what I was doing with all those meds. I looked him in the eye and said "I am standing here and I am alive. Without them I am dead. " He waved me on.

127 The Left  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:55:12pm

re: #46 sattv4u2

You may get a punch in the mouth from jimmah, though!
/

re: #44 Gus 802

ICEMOM? Uh oh, we need to pat-down ICEweasel. Could be from ICE!

/

Alas, Jimmah is even now at an airport, being patted down as we speak.

ICEweasel awaits a spousal visa, which will require, in addition to documentation of every aspect of our existences, the collection of my biometric data to be matched against the DHS database. (not kidding!) Until then? He's in Scotland and I'm in the US.

Now, if only I had exploding underwear and a parent that alerted homeland security about me, I could apparently get a US visa anywhere anytime....

128 Sinistershade  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:55:19pm

re: #81 Gang of One

Sinister,

This guy got through Holland's security. But he was on a no-fly list which should have meant everyone involved be on the same page; we were not. I see your point, though.

Oh, I agree, Gang, that it would be nice if all the lists and databases used in the hundreds of major airports around the world were perfectly replicated and up to date. My experience with databases and the people who enter data into them suggests to me, however, that this is an ideal that will never be met. And correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that this individual was on neither the "no-fly" list nor the "selectee" list (which would lead to additional screening). He was on the NCTC's 550,000-person TIDE list, which is not directly used (or intended to be used) for air passenger screening.

129 SteveC  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:56:34pm

re: #126 Blueheron

I carry a small bag full of meds. A TSA agent pulled me aside and asked what I was doing with all those meds. I looked him in the eye and said "I am standing here and I am alive. Without them I am dead. " He waved me on.

DAY-UM! May I use that? If you require I'll mail you a dollah every time I say it!

130 sattv4u2  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:57:25pm

re: #127 iceweasel

if only I had exploding underwear

In that I value my membership, I won't touch that (figuratively AND literally!)

131 SixDegrees  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:57:32pm

re: #128 Sinistershade

Oh, I agree, Gang, that it would be nice if all the lists and databases used in the hundreds of major airports around the world were perfectly replicated and up to date. My experience with databases and the people who enter data into them suggests to me, however, that this is an ideal that will never be met. And correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that this individual was on neither the "no-fly" list nor the "selectee" list (which would lead to additional screening). He was on the NCTC's 550,000-person TIDE list, which is not directly used (or intended to be used) for air passenger screening.

He was, however, on Britain's no-fly list because of his membership in a jihadist organization. In fact, he was the effing president of the organization while he was in school in Britain.

132 Blueheron  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:58:17pm

re: #115 wlewisiii

Bet you'll be required to have it in the original labeled bottles soon. They already do that in the Transportation industry - as a trucker I could not keep my meds in an organizer.

William


You are supposed to have them in original containers.

133 tradewind  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:58:31pm

No worries. It's just another tweak to the New Transparency.///

134 SteveC  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 12:58:44pm

re: #127 iceweasel

Now, if only I had exploding underwear...

I know a couple of low quality restaurants. Give them about six hours....

135 cliffster  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 1:00:01pm

re: #134 SteveC

I know a couple of low quality restaurants. Give them about six hours...

Bad chinese takeout is no way to start 2010.

136 Sinistershade  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 1:02:32pm

re: #99 lawhawk

There have been quite a few hijackings since 2001, aircraft bombings in Russia, Richard Reid, etc.

No system is perfect, but not following common sense is dangerous.

Oh, I agree, lawhawk. Common sense, rather than the security theater we've seen so far, would be great. I just feel that much of the hysterical reaction and security expectations I've heard expressed in the past week have lacked any common sense. (And as for the relatively few serious incidents in the past few years I referred to, I specifically meant air travel in and into the U.S., over which we do have some control.)

137 The Left  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 1:02:41pm

re: #131 SixDegrees

He was, however, on Britain's no-fly list because of his membership in a jihadist organization. In fact, he was the effing president of the organization while he was in school in Britain.

That's the part that really irks me. If someone is on the no-fly list in the UK, they absolutely should be on the US one, and vice versa. Of all the various places where he appears to have slipped through the system, that's the one that bothers me most.

138 Blueheron  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 1:05:03pm

re: #129 SteveC

DAY-UM! May I use that? If you require I'll mail you a dollah every time I say it!

Nobody messes with me EVAH! Yes you may use it and that will be a fiver :)

139 SteveC  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 1:07:40pm

re: #138 Blueheron

Nobody messes with me EVAH! Yes you may use it and that will be a fiver :)

hell, why don't I just mail you a sub sandwich?

// Five...
Five dollah...
Five dollah foot long!

140 Gang of One  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 1:08:55pm

Friends, Romans, country-lizards, I go now to wish pa and ma a Happy 2010. If I don't see youse guys, have a great one, and stay safe, please. God bless you all.

G of 1

141 Jaerik  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 2:29:14pm

re: #137 iceweasel

That's the part that really irks me. If someone is on the no-fly list in the UK, they absolutely should be on the US one, and vice versa.

That could be a bit difficult, given the UK has banned the likes of Michael Savage from flying/entering their country for hate speech.

142 Sinistershade  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 2:31:06pm

re: #131 SixDegrees

He was, however, on Britain's no-fly list because of his membership in a jihadist organization. In fact, he was the effing president of the organization while he was in school in Britain.

Utterly fair point. But reconciling all those database records . . . avoiding dupes . . . removing spurious data . . . ensuring the Brits have reasonable suspicion for putting each name on their list. The connections are obvious in retrospect; looking forward, it's a bit more difficult.

I know how hard it is to get two departments of the same company in the same building to use a consistent dataset. I can't imagine how difficult it would be to keep intelligence agencies of separate countries in sync.

143 Sinistershade  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 2:34:50pm

re: #141 Jaerik

That could be a bit difficult, given the UK has banned the likes of Michael Savage from flying/entering their country for hate speech.

Of course, that may just have been in issue of good taste.
/

144 jvic  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 3:12:20pm

re: #63 Gus 802

This is going to hurt...

TSA Salutes a 'Very Good Year' Despite 2009 Security Failures
End-of-the-Year Message Was Sent Hours Before Northwest Bomber Cleared Airport Security and Boarded Plane with No Federal Air Marshals

When a bureaucracy screws up, its first reaction is to demand more power and a bigger budget. The blogger intimidation is par for the course.

Maybe the blogger intimidation will backfire--hopefully the blogosphere will unite against it--, but I bet the TSA gets away with the overall ploy. Maybe not if the plane had gone down. Probably not if shudder several planes had gone down.

For amoral TSA careerists, it may well have been a very good year.

(NB: The foregoing is not aimed at conscientious civil servants doing their best at TSA. Obviously there aren't enough of them, but I presume they exist.)

145 Right Brain  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 4:10:08pm

I can't tell which is stranger: the stuff that Jesse Ventura dreams up, or the stuff that's actually happening.

146 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 7:21:37pm

re: #32 HelloDare

The obvious question:

What would the left's reaction be if this happened under the Bush administration?

Forget the us-vs-them stuff for a minute. It *would* have happened under the Bush Administration. It would have happened under Clinton, the other Bush, Reagan, Carter, Ford, etc. It's not about any President.

When it comes to travel security, post-9/11 we as a nation seem to be fantastically skilled at zeroing in like a laser on the absolute dumbest methods possible, and then pursuing those methods full-throttle, warp factor nine.

Some guy tries to blow up his shoes, and next thing you know, shoes are the most important thing on the menu. Liquid explosive threat, now mom has to sample her Similac (I'm sure anyone who remembers high school chemistry can think of several relatively innocuous things that could be ingested with few or no ill effects, but when mixed with some other catalyst become very nasty).

There *must* be a reason why we are so institutionally dumb. Racial profiling is also not the answer until we develop less-stupid methods. Would anything that we currently inflict on air travelers at the security checkpoint have stopped Mohammed Atta and pals? The time to catch these guys has long expired by the time they actually get to the airport.

As it turns out, the 9/11 hijackers, the Ft. Hood shooter, and the 419 bomber all practically wore signs around their neck reading "I AM A SINCERELY DANGEROUS PERSON" and they were actively ignored by lots of people who were in a position to notice and take some action. (This goes for the Virginia Tech shooter too, but that's a different issue, I guess. Same mindset, though.)

I don't buy the standard canard about political correctness. That may have a bit to do with it (and certainly seems to have done in the Ft. Hood case), but in most cases the failures are shown to be the result of people having their heads up their asses (territorial tree-pissing between FBI and CIA, petty jurisdictional disputes), not people who saw a problem and were afraid to say anything.

It's pretty clear that airport security sucks, but again: a terrorist in an airport has already defeated the entire counterterrorism apparatus. He's already done all the hard stuff. It's unrealistic to expect low-wage TSA drones to identify and stop terrorists.

Unless jihad goes out of fashion, I don't it's at all realistic to think we can prevent every attack. But I think we could focus on making it extraordinarily difficult.

I think it would be a good idea to establish 'counterterrorism' as a subject of study at the university level. Keep it completely separate from law, military, and law enforcement. It needs to be its own domain. Make it harrowingly difficult, and vastly prestigious. You know, ELITIST.

OR, we could just sit on the couch and watch America's Next Top Model Jihadi and blame everything that goes wrong on politicians who don't agree with us. Whatever's easier.

147 Perplexed  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 7:23:14pm

Subpoenas dropped and laptop returned. Constitution bruised up a little around the edges.

Another poorly redacted document hit the web from TSA. Blogdad Bob, TSA's blogger will have his hands full with this one.

Suspect that many in the upper most echelons of TSA will be looking for other employment soon.

148 Tigger2005  Thu, Dec 31, 2009 8:37:33pm

Appalling story, but did the guy really think they'd arrest him and leave his kids home all alone? I think there are rules about that.

149 mousseman  Fri, Jan 1, 2010 9:35:08am

If I'm flying in the US, I'm now going to take my chances with the terrorists instead of having my rights trampled with scanners, rectal exams and whatever.

In Switzerland, the probability of winning the lottery is 1 in 8'145'600.

According to this source, the likelihood to get killed by terrorism in an airliner is 1 in 10'408'947.

In other words, it's twenty times LESS likely than getting killed by a lightning strike (the probability is about 1 500'000).

If there's a real and genuine probability of terrorists striking an airliner, proceed to a good old-style punitive expedition to the place that failed to turn over the terrorist on the first instance. With the Nigerian crotch bomber, bomb the crap out of Yemen to bring the point across that if they know about tangos, they should turn them over.

And then, fire all the folks responsible for not entering the crotch bomber on the no-fly list and make sure their responsibility revolves around flipping burgers for the rest of their lives.

150 Kobyashi Maru  Sat, Jan 2, 2010 6:59:08am

TSA is theater, where we spend over $5 BILLION a year on the "Maginot Line" we have built around airline travel. They work hard, no doubt, but the whole enterprise is a waste of resources. I'm a member of the ACLU and I think flying is a privilege, not a right found in the Constitution. As a result, we need to profile people scan them, question them, analyze their laptops, make people open their address books and internet history and expalin why they were visiting [Link: www.howtokillkaffirs.com"...] and so forth...


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Big Band of Brothers - ‘Whipping Post’ (Feat. Marc Broussard) [Audio Only]From the new album 'A Jazz Celebration Of The Allman Brothers Band,' available November 22: geni.us
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The Weight We’re excited to share our newest Song Around The World, “The Weight,” featuring musicians performing together across 5 continents. Great songs can travel everywhere bridging what divides us and inspiring us to see how easily we all get along ...
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#Thegreatpoolpondconversion - 190915We did the weekly uncovering and hoisting of the gazebo and then started marking the walls. Because we are getting close... Look at the left hand in this picture. Sharpie-gate has invaded #thegreatpoolpondconversion It turns out that one side of ...
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