Now that was funny :)

That was brilliant. =) I feel a Sarah channeling coming on in the near future again!

Heh, I think the quotes in the background are real. Very clever.

That was very funny & clever.

"Oddly human emails have revealed the tip of the iceberg."

That's a lie. The iceberg has melted.

"...tip of the iceberg."

Is iceberg code for an anti-Semitic rant?
Or just the name of a Jewish rapper?

re: #5 solomonpanting

"Oddly human emails have revealed the tip of the iceberg."

That's a lie. The iceberg has melted.

"...tip of the iceberg."

Is iceberg code for an anti-Semitic rant?
Or just the name of a Jewish rapper?

Yo Yo // Oy Oy

Coincidence? I think not!

re: #6 sattv4u2

Very good!

Love it. And he's uncovered the next frontier in wingnut denial: if you deny that there is a globe, how can there be global warming? Huh? Huh? Answer us that, Mr Science-loving Scientist!

/looking forward to seeing the wingnuts start citing Berkeley! Damn, if only he weren't named after that commie university....

re: #7 solomonpanting

Very good!

Thanks ,, but you inspired it, with the rapper Ice Berg!

Science is done by humans?

Well, it's time that the gods do it. Then they can tell us the truth, and we'll know when they're telling the truth by, uh, I guess by doing science.

Until then, we should only believe the truth revealed to us by unobserved and unseen spirits to humans. And we'll know that it's the truth because religious revelation agrees across all cultures and religions.

Glen Davidson
[Link: tinyurl.com...]

re: #9 sattv4u2

Thanks ,, but you inspired it, with the rapper Ice Berg!

/Hedda Lettuce is Ice Berg in drag ya know...

I have a question.

I charles real??

(Wink)

re: #8 iceweasel

Love it. And he's uncovered the next frontier in wingnut denial: if you deny that there is a globe, how can there be global warming? Huh? Huh? Answer us that, Mr Science-loving Scientist!

/looking forward to seeing the wingnuts start citing Berkeley! Damn, if only he weren't named after that commie university...

I hate Cal-Berkeley...I tried to go there and wasn't smart enough or athletic enough.. If only I had climbed a tree on University Ave. and Pooped on Cops..
I could have been somebody! *wink*

Sarcasm Seen as Evolutionary Survival Skill

[Link: www.livescience.com...]

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

re: #11 brookly red

/Hedda Lettuce is Ice Berg in drag ya know...

I saw that show stoned way back when in my salad daze.

re: #5 solomonpanting

"Oddly human emails have revealed the tip of the iceberg."

That's a lie. The iceberg has melted.

"...tip of the iceberg."

Is iceberg code for an anti-Semitic rant?
Or just the name of a Jewish rapper?

Iceberg: the Jew who sank the Titanic.

re: #13 HoosierHoops

I hate Cal-Berkeley...I tried to go there and wasn't smart enough or athletic enough.. If only I had climbed a tree on University Ave. and Pooped on Cops..
I could have been somebody! *wink*

Well Hoops, if they wouldn't accept you then they're the ones who aren't smart enough. { { Hoops } }

re: #16 Alouette

Iceberg: the Jew who sank the Titanic.

/well if he had a tip then how was he Jewish? Hah!

Science isn't dumb.
This, on the other hand...Cap and dividend.

re: #18 brookly red

{groan}

All this science stuff is just Hot Air...get it...see what I did there.

re: #17 iceweasel

Well Hoops, if they wouldn't accept you then they're the ones who aren't smart enough. { { Hoops } }

{Ice} Our baby girl graduated from UC Davis..I am very proud..
F*ck the Cal-Bears...
*wink*

re: #13 HoosierHoops

Sorry about that, but Berkeley had fallen from the great institution it was before the Free Speech Movement. As a graduate from there in engineering back in the early 50's, I no longer want anything to do with it now.

re: #20 sattv4u2

To answer a question you asked before I left for work this morning, and I didn't answer...

I don't know when Cato the Elder will be coming back this way. He is at a 15 days retreat in Ca., it started the 22nd of Dec., and it's a no talking sort of retreat, so he can't call or anything.

He will give me a holler when he is ready to head out, and he may or may not be stopping by, depending on what he decides to do next. His whole traveling schedule is open to his whims.

I schlepped a shit load of furniture today... half-priced Sat.

re: #23 Bear

Sorry about that, but Berkeley had fallen from the great institution it was before the Free Speech Movement. As a graduate from there in engineering back in the early 50's, I no longer want anything to do with it now.

So that makes you 80 plus now?

My hat is off to you sir.

Supper... be back in a bit...

GGGRRRR

Frakin clients
Him
"Are we up on the satellite yet"
Me
"Yes sir, you are"
Him
"Oh, well, I see the video from the arena but I'm not hearing anything"
((I didn't ask the obvious question, which was if you're seeing the video why are you asking if we're on the satellite yet)
Me
"Sir, the arena isn't sending any audio yet. They never do until the talent gets into the booth to do mic checks"
(game won't be starting for an hour or so)
Him
"So if they aren't sending any audio, how will we know when they do?"
Me (biting my lip)
"umm,, when we hear something!"

I still keep getting mailings from Berkeley which are promptly placed in the garbage without opening.

re: #24 Walter L. Newton

Thanks for the update

re: #28 Bear

Those damn hippies made us lose the war!

///

re: #23 Bear

Sorry about that, but Berkeley had fallen from the great institution it was before the Free Speech Movement. As a graduate from there in engineering back in the early 50's, I no longer want anything to do with it now.

I'm just a little Jealous..Grew up in Napa and the dream school was always Cal or Stanford...Where did you live?

re: #31 HoosierHoops

SF

re: #27 sattv4u2

Reminds me of the balloon boy episode when whatever channel I was watching; the commentator obviously couldn't see what I saw and must have known it, but kept talking garbage anyway, as if nobody would notice. Weird these TV people are.

Fiore is funny. Can't help but wonder if his depiction of Obama in New Year's redux would be panned as racist if found on a right-wing cartoonists' site, though.
[Link: www.markfiore.com...]

re: #24 Walter L. Newton

What does schlepped mean?

re: #35 Naso Tang

What does schlepped mean?

Dragged around.

re: #34 tradewind

Fiore is funny. Can't help but wonder if his depiction of Obama in New Year's redux would be panned as racist if found on a right-wing cartoonists' site, though.
[Link: www.markfiore.com...]

Since there's nothing racist about it, probably not.

re: #34 tradewind

so do you really not understand why those other images were racist, or are you just harping on the old turd about how conservatives are the unjustly persecuted faction in America?

re: #34 tradewind

Fiore is funny. Can't help but wonder if his depiction of Obama in New Year's redux would be panned as racist if found on a right-wing cartoonists' site, though.
[Link: www.markfiore.com...]

Great alliteration

re: #36 Alouette

Dragged around.

I drag around furniture on my own. Walter pays half price on Saturday?
If this is a union thingy for theaters, I thought it it would be double price on Saturdays.

I'm still confused.

re: #40 Naso Tang

I drag around furniture on my own. Walter pays half price on Saturday?
If this is a union thingy for theaters, I thought it it would be double price on Saturdays.

I'm still confused.

Walter works in a furniture store now.

re: #40 Naso Tang

Walter has left the theater, has a job schlepping furniture around at a store that had a half-off sale today.

Uber schlepping.

re: #40 Naso Tang

I drag around furniture on my own. Walter pays half price on Saturday?
If this is a union thingy for theaters, I thought it it would be double price on Saturdays.

I'm still confused.

Walter started a new job. He's working in retail, a furniture store. They must have a sale on Saturdays (hence,,, Half Price Sat)

re: #32 Bear

SF

Love the City! Sometime back in my 20's on a full moon night after drinking with buddies on the Beach in Alameda I declared I was going to swim to San Fran.. It looked no longer than a mile away.. So off I went swimming to the City.. About 30 minutes away and looking no closer i gave up swimming...
The truth is as you know the Alameda side is very shallow at low tide and I was able to walk most of the way back...Nobody believed that I would try anyway...
On the resume: Tried to swim to SF drunk

re: #41 Alouette

Walter works in a furniture store now.

Oh. I imagine schlepping is good for the heart then. No need to go jogging.

re: #45 Naso Tang

if bad for the back..

Lift with your legs!!!!

re: #45 Naso Tang

Oh. I imagine schlepping is good for the heart then. No need to go jogging.

If you can schlepp whilst jogging ,, OR,, jog whilst schlepping you are indeed in very good shape!

O/T: Huffpo says twitter account wasn't hacked, but ' mimicked'.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

re: #38 windsagio
None of the above, but nice needle.///

Hope it's good for you Walter. The thermometer says 9 degrees here in the Georgia mountains and my water pump froze up for a while since I haven't been washing the dishes for a while.

How is it where you are?

re: #44 HoosierHoops

How's your Sensuous Trombone Playing?...

re: #49 tradewind

I'm sure I'm in the right area, would you give a brother a hand? :D

re: #44 HoosierHoops

Love the City! Sometime back in my 20's on a full moon night after drinking with buddies on the Beach in Alameda I declared I was going to swim to San Fran.. It looked no longer than a mile away.. So off I went swimming to the City.. About 30 minutes away and looking no closer i gave up swimming...
The truth is as you know the Alameda side is very shallow at low tide and I was able to walk most of the way back...Nobody believed that I would try anyway...
On the resume: Tried to swim to SF drunk

What were you wearing?

re: #48 tradewind

O/T: Huffpo says twitter account wasn't hacked, but ' mimicked'.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Very easy on twitter to create an account in, really, any name you want.
Someone is using my name for a "stalker" twitter account, which posts vile things about people here.

Since before Christmas, I've been trying to convince Twitter I am me, so they'll take this account down as an "impersonation". Hope my next FAXed info does the trick.

re: #50 Naso Tang

Hope it's good for you Walter. The thermometer says 9 degrees here in the Georgia mountains and my water pump froze up for a while since I haven't been washing the dishes for a while.

How is it where you are?

You up near Helen?

I'm in Atlanta

re: #53 Naso Tang

What were you wearing?

Mask and fins.

re: #52 windsagio
Sorry, no accupuncture without a license.//

re: #55 sattv4u2

Suches, The Valley In The Clouds.

re: #54 reine.de.tout
Wow, that sucks.... hope you get it fixed asap.

re: #56 solomonpanting

Mask and fins.

I wasn't thinking foot and mouth.

re: #58 Naso Tang

Suches, The Valley In The Clouds.

Neat , get any snow this past week?

re: #56 solomonpanting

Mask and fins.

in bed.

re: #54 reine.de.tout

another reason Twitter was poorly thought out and designed. Didn't we go through this same thing with web domains 16 years ago?

Spoiled rotten Saudi Prince: "Israel is acting like a spoiled child."

Gah.

re: #61 sattv4u2

Neat , get any snow this past week?

About two inches a couple of days ago, but rain in the morning.

re: #51 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

How's your Sensuous Trombone Playing?...

Boy, did I screw that up.

Embarrassing!

re: #64 Alouette

Spoiled rotten Saudi Prince: "Israel is acting like a spoiled child."

Gah.

Linki no good.

Look out, I'm feeling that "vice" tightening around me again.

Dan "I'll beat me some black kids" Riehl posts with his customary eloquence: Noted Lizard Fister Chuckles Johnson Defends Kevin Jennings.

Could your child be next?

re: #68 Charles

The religious right is just obsessed with sex aren't they?

re: #68 Charles

Ugh, I'm really creeped out by their fantasies of extreme sexual practices with children. They are really in a froth over this one.

The right wing blogosphere thinks it's just HI-larious to falsely accuse someone of supporting child porn. Guffaw!

re: #53 Naso Tang

What were you wearing?

Swimming trucks...We were young in our 20's working on ships for the Navy on TDY at Alameda...and drunk on a beach..I stood up and said I was swimming to SF at midnight..everybody laughed and off I went...It's real shallow on the Alameda side so you could mostly walk in 3 foot of of water for a mile or so...So I mostly walked to the jeers of ' How is that swimming working out for you?'
F*ck you guys! At least I'm trying
*Going on a booze run..Want anything?*
F*ck you guys! hey get me a six pack of something

re: #68 Charles

Look out, I'm feeling that "vice" tightening around me again.

Dan "I'll beat me some black kids" Riehl posts with his customary eloquence: Noted Lizard Fister Chuckles Johnson Defends Kevin Jennings.

I'd like to see a post (with chart for kicks) of how the right wing blogos have reacted with depravity when called out. Whackos.

re: #70 Killgore Trout

Ugh, I'm really creeped out by their fantasies of extreme sexual practices with children. They are really in a froth over this one.

They're losing their shit, all right. And note that this all started when I pointed out that Jim Hoft linked to a completely insane conspiracy website -- something which NONE of these freaks have even acknowledged.

re: #69 Thanos

The religious right is just obsessed with sex aren't they?

Sadly only one upding I can give.

In a NUTSHELL.

re: #40 Naso Tang

I drag around furniture on my own. Walter pays half price on Saturday?
If this is a union thingy for theaters, I thought it it would be double price on Saturdays.

I'm still confused.

I don't work at the theatre anymore. I quit two weeks ago, after two years of starving artist wages, I decided to at least find a 40 hour a week job that pays something better than non-profit theatre.

I'm working retail for a major non-profit charity thrift store in the furniture department, which means pricing used furniture, electronics and appliances and moving them, hauling them, fixinf them, you name it...

It's hard work, it pays about 2 dollars over minimum and I'm making about 10 thousand more a year than the theatre.

All in all, considering the economy, considering my age and considering I have only been able to get off and on contract work iin my profession, programming, this will work for now.

re: #70 Killgore Trout

Ugh, I'm really creeped out by their fantasies of extreme sexual practices with children. They are really in a froth over this one.

In fairness, I don't think it's "their fantasies of extreme sexual practices with children", but rather their fantasy that people they don't like are having (or want to have) extreme sexual practices with children. That way, they can be outraged at not only the person, but for "CAUSE"!

re: #72 HoosierHoops

Swimming trucks...We were young in our 20's working on ships for the Navy on TDY at Alameda...and drunk on a beach..I stood up and said I was swimming to SF at midnight..everybody laughed and off I went...It's real shallow on the Alameda side so you could mostly walk in 3 foot of of water for a mile or so...So I mostly walked to the jeers of ' How is that swimming working out for you?'
F*ck you guys! At least I'm trying
*Going on a booze run..Want anything?*
F*ck you guys! hey get me a six pack of something

I can think of a few times that meant I'm lucky to be alive too, but I won't. Too embarrassing.

re: #63 windsagio

another reason Twitter was poorly thought out and designed. Didn't we go through this same thing with web domains 16 years ago?

If the information they sent me is true they have a staff of like 7 or 8 people to resolve complaints. That's it. Took them more than a week to respond to me to begin with; then they wanted my response back in 24 hours. I couldn't e-mail them the information, I have to FAX it to them. I don't have a FAX machine. I'll get it settled sooner or later, but it's a mess right now.

re: #71 Charles

The right wing blogosphere thinks it's just HI-larious to falsely accuse someone of supporting child porn. Guffaw!

Back after the election when the right wing started jumping off the cliff I really never thought It would come to this...I have watched the Grand Old Party implode in slow motion over the last year.

re: #76 Walter L. Newton

Glad you found something that works, even as I had the impression you really liked what you did.

re: #77 sattv4u2

In fairness, I don't think it's "their fantasies of extreme sexual practices with children", but rather their fantasy that people they don't like are having (or want to have) extreme sexual practices with children. That way, they can be outraged at not only the person, but for "CAUSE"!

No, this stuff is their own invention. It all came from their imaginations.

re: #73 Stanley Sea

I'd like to see a post (with chart for kicks) of how the right wing blogos have reacted with depravity when called out. Whackos.

That would be hilarious. Someone needs to work on a chart showing the crankosphere's response to being called out on anything.

All I have at the moment is this nifty photo of how a wingnut sees the world.

(Not mine, btw. Can't remember where I ran across it).

re: #79 reine.de.tout

If the information they sent me is true they have a staff of like 7 or 8 people to resolve complaints. That's it. Took them more than a week to respond to me to begin with; then they wanted my response back in 24 hours. I couldn't e-mail them the information, I have to FAX it to them. I don't have a FAX machine. I'll get it settled sooner or later, but it's a mess right now.

I think theres an inexpensive program you can add to your puter so you can fax.

Perhaps Charles knows

(I know we can fax from all our work puters,,,, at home, I have a combo fax/scanner/fax machine)

re: #70 Killgore Trout

Ugh, I'm really creeped out by their fantasies of extreme sexual practices with children. They are really in a froth over this one.

It's being driven by crazies like this one
**** Warning extremist militia / anti-semite / religion youtube channel *** (they are fans of Jim Hoft too...)
[Link: www.youtube.com...]

(He claims to be "not anti-semite just anti-zionist" but in comments he's left other places you see him slamming that Jew Bernie Maduff for raping America and sending the money to Israel etc. etc.)

re: #82 Killgore Trout

No, this stuff is their own invention. It all came from their imaginations.

No. Like I stated. They want to beleive that Jennings (et al) wnat to and/or are having sex or sexual fantasies with and about children. I really don't beleive they themselves have those fantasies

NOT that it excuses their behaviour

re: #84 sattv4u2

I think theres an inexpensive program you can add to your puter so you can fax.

Perhaps Charles knows

(I know we can fax from all our work puters,,, at home, I have a combo fax/scanner/fax machine)

You can also run down to a local Kinko's or pretty much any package mailing store.

re: #87 Thanos

You can also run down to a local Kinko's or pretty much any package mailing store.

Yup,,, under 2 bucks iirc

re: #83 iceweasel

That would be hilarious. Someone needs to work on a chart showing the crankosphere's response to being called out on anything.

All I have at the moment is this nifty photo of how a wingnut sees the world.

(Not mine, btw. Can't remember where I ran across it).

HA! That's a good one.

re: #81 Naso Tang

Glad you found something that works, even as I had the impression you really liked what you did.

I loved what I did, but last Sept., they had to cut my salary by 55 percent, that's a major hit... I had to make a decision.

re: #68 Charles

Look out, I'm feeling that "vice" tightening around me again.

Dan "I'll beat me some black kids" Riehl posts with his customary eloquence: Noted Lizard Fister Chuckles Johnson Defends Kevin Jennings.

It's interesting that he doesn't link to a post of yours where you have defended Kevin Jennings.
He links to a post at Gateway Pundit, where this appears:

UPDATE 2: Tom Stelane adds:

I just commented on LGF, asking Charles or anyone else there to go a little more in-depth in disagreeing with GP other than by asserting that ‘you’re bad’ – you know, like maybe dealing with the actual facts surrounding Jennings instead of making sweeping general assertions. I was polite and stayed on topic even though the LGFers couldn’t refrain from getting in digs at me. I only asked, did Jennings do or not do these things in question? I did not violate his comment policy but Charles promptly deleted my comments, banned me, and commented that I am a ‘moron.’

That must have been "264Tom". I can't find in that thread where you specifically called him a moron. Also - there were several responses to him that were not of the "dig" sort. Odd that he would not ackowledge that.

re: #84 sattv4u2

I think theres an inexpensive program you can add to your puter so you can fax.

Perhaps Charles knows

(I know we can fax from all our work puters,,, at home, I have a combo fax/scanner/fax COPY machine)

pimf

re: #87 Thanos

You can also run down to a local Kinko's or pretty much any package mailing store.

UPS store 2 blocks away has a machine - I'll pop over there tomorrow. Just a pain in the neck that they won't accept e-mail attachments (a copy of my DL is what they want)

re: #91 reine.de.tout

That must have been "264Tom". I can't find in that thread where you specifically called him a moron. Also - there were several responses to him that were not of the "dig" sort. Odd that he would not ackowledge that.

I made several replies to him but he ignored me.

re: #86 sattv4u2

I think it's mostly projection against the horrible gays and (what Jim Hoft thinks are) their practices. The fact that there are children involved just adds to their righteous indignation.

re: #90 Walter L. Newton

I loved what I did, but last Sept., they had to cut my salary by 55 percent, that's a major hit... I had to make a decision.

Write a Broadway play Walter...You have the talent..Go for the gold

re: #91 reine.de.tout

Yeah, that's totally NOT what he did. He never answered the questions about the sources, and just harped on the idiotic conspiracy spread by hate groups.

But a troll who's dishonest, imagine my shock.

re: #91 reine.de.tout

That must have been "264Tom". I can't find in that thread where you specifically called him a moron. Also - there were several responses to him that were not of the "dig" sort. Odd that he would not ackowledge that.

His comments were full of insults and gross references to "fisting, golden showers, etc."

Yep, I banned him all right, and I'd do it again without hesitation.

re: #98 Charles

His comments were full of insults and gross references to "fisting, golden showers, etc."

Yep, I banned him all right, and I'd do it again without hesitation.

Yes, I saw his comments - couldn't remember specifically what he said, but I did recall that they were not all that "polite".

It's absolutely typical for these creeps to show up at other sites and paint themselves as poor persecuted victims, who were just politely asking questions when I brought down the fascist ban hammer on their innocent heads.

The word for this is "bullshit."

re: #93 reine.de.tout

re: #97 erraticsphinx

re: #98 Charles

re: #94 Thanos

I told him (Tom) that he shat on his hosts carpet and wiped his ass on the drapes, and you know what?
I don't feel any remorse about it!

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

re: #86 sattv4u2

But after a while it starts reading like those hate mails calling someone a fag and then lovingly detailing how said gayness would play out in detail. Like making a movie about a women being demeaned and abused over and over and then ending it with the perpetrators dying in the last 5 minutes. Sometimes even like a cheater's paranoid fantasies about his partner's cheating. The critic doth obsess too much.

I don't think that this kind of behavior always means that that person actually "wants" those things, much less that they would enjoy them, but I find it pretty obvious that it gives them a thrill to think about them, and that they enjoy.

re: #102 suchislife

but I find it pretty obvious that it gives them a thrill to think about them, and that they enjoy.

Again, I think they enjoy the thought of a Jennings doing those things. "Enjoy" in the sense that it gives them cause to hate him

re: #82 Killgore Trout

No, this stuff is their own invention. It all came from their imaginations.

Projection?

Btw: the friends list of that nutball site I posted above is interesting.

re: #74 Charles

They're losing their shit, all right. And note that this all started when I pointed out that Jim Hoft linked to a completely insane conspiracy website -- something which NONE of these freaks have even acknowledged.

Well you know this old saying rings true Charles; "the best defense is a good offense." They really can't defend their own actions so they have to attack like wild dogs in a pack.

re: #100 Charles

It's absolutely typical for these creeps to show up at other sites and paint themselves as poor persecuted victims, who were just politely asking questions when I brought down the fascist ban hammer on their innocent heads.

The word for this is "bullshit."

Agreed.. Last summer I came across an ex-lizard by the nic of Iamtoast..
They said you banned them and all they were doing was rubbing their dog's belly... So I logged into the site and said CJ sure is a mean guy..So you were just rubbing doggies belly?
It was so laughable..Remember Iamtoast's last posting? LOL..Like when Song and Dance man over at the stalker sight claimed you only banned him for posting in the 'Spirit'
You can't make this stuff upi

re: #103 sattv4u2

That's certainly possible.

re: #105 Thanos

Hey, when you're under attack by the (and I quote) "marxist/zionist/pagan elite", you gotta find friends anywhere. Our race's...UH I MEAN our nation's survival depends upon it!
//////mind of that idiot

re: #55 sattv4u2

You up near Helen?

I'm in Atlanta

Ask Charles for my email. Come up and visit; about 1 1/2 hours. I haven't met any lizards in the flesh yet, and it's just me here this time.

re: #110 Naso Tang

Ask Charles for my email. Come up and visit; about 1 1/2 hours. I haven't met any lizards in the flesh yet, and it's just me here this time.

I just may take you up on that, but only if lunch is on me!

re: #23 Bear

Sorry about that, but Berkeley had fallen from the great institution it was before the Free Speech Movement. As a graduate from there in engineering back in the early 50's, I no longer want anything to do with it now.

Berkeley is still an excellent research institution. You might not like the politics, but they still offer a hell of an education for those willing to learn. One of the top public universities in the US.

re: #13 HoosierHoops

I hate Cal-Berkeley...I tried to go there and wasn't smart enough or athletic enough.

I didn't get into any UC school except the new UC Merced campus. And I had a 4.0 gpa.

Me vs. Conn Carroll on Bloggingheads.tv:

[Link: bloggingheads.tv...]

There is some good news re the health care mess... we're all gonna get the goodies!

“Senator Nelson said it would be ‘fixed’ by extending the Cornhusker Kickback (100% federal payment) on Medicaid to every state.”

[Link: www.politico.com...]

re: #113 Virginia Plain

I didn't get into any UC school except the new UC Merced campus. And I had a 4.0 gpa.

I am very proud of my daughter graduating from UC Davis

re: #13 HoosierHoops

What's with all the Berkeley bashing here? The "commie university" business is SO yesterday, a relic maintained only by that Hippie Theme Park that is Telegraph Avenue. As for the university itself, apart from some pockets of nostalgia it's just like Harvard or Yale. I've taught at all three and I know. Really truly.

re: #102 suchislife

But after a while it starts reading like those hate mails calling someone a fag and then lovingly detailing how said gayness would play out in detail. Like making a movie about a women being demeaned and abused over and over and then ending it with the perpetrators dying in the last 5 minutes. Sometimes even like a cheater's paranoid fantasies about his partner's cheating. The critic doth obsess too much.

I don't think that this kind of behavior always means that that person actually "wants" those things, much less that they would enjoy them, but I find it pretty obvious that it gives them a thrill to think about them, and that they enjoy.

Yep. There's something obsessively prurient about the specific level of detail involved, the care with which they lovingly imagine just how the imaginary scenario plays out. They appear to spend a lot of time thinking about the mechanics of the physical acts.

It doesn't have to mean they want to perform those acts, but what does it mean when they can't stop dwelling on them? I don't know, but it isn't good.

I graduated from UC Berkeley in EECS. It was and is a great school.

re: #116 HoosierHoops

I am very proud of my daughter graduating from UC Davis

Awesome. I wanted to go there but I didn't get in. That's alright. I moved out of California a year after I graduated high school.

re: #111 sattv4u2

I just may take you up on that, but only if lunch is on me!

Unfortunately there isn't any lunch around within about 40 minutes drive, but you can bring take out.

re: #117 elizajane

What's with all the Berkeley bashing here? The "commie university" business is SO yesterday, a relic maintained only by that Hippie Theme Park that is Telegraph Avenue. As for the university itself, apart from some pockets of nostalgia it's just like Harvard or Yale. I've taught at all three and I know. Really truly.

Jeez..I started it all out...I said I hated Berkeley Cause I wasn't smart enough or athletically enough to be accepted..It was a nudge to the ribs...
Cal-Berkeley is one of the greatest colleges in the world..That's a fact..

re: #114 Charles

Me vs. Conn Carroll on Bloggingheads.tv:

[Link: bloggingheads.tv...]

Did you do much with MIDI on the Atari, or did you do the music stuff on a Mac like most musicians?

re: #115 tradewind

There is some good news re the health care mess... we're all gonna get the goodies!

[Link: www.politico.com...]

I read somewhere yesterday that there is NO provision to extend the 'CornHusker Provision" to all states. I can't recall how I phrased the search parameters, but the article made it clear that Reid AND the White House both stated it a no go, even though Nelson claimed he did it for Nebraska so the othre states would be able to get the same deal

[Link: www.google.com...]

re: #117 elizajane

What's with all the Berkeley bashing here? The "commie university" business is SO yesterday, a relic maintained only by that Hippie Theme Park that is Telegraph Avenue. As for the university itself, apart from some pockets of nostalgia it's just like Harvard or Yale. I've taught at all three and I know. Really truly.

I was being sarcastic when I called it a commie uni, don't worry. Great school, still wish they'd let Hoops in. :)

re: #121 Naso Tang

Unfortunately there isn't any lunch around within about 40 minutes drive, but you can bring take out.

Will do

re: #74 Charles

They're losing their shit, all right. And note that this all started when I pointed out that Jim Hoft linked to a completely insane conspiracy website -- something which NONE of these freaks have even acknowledged.

I tried to follow the chain of links they provided to back up the "fisting" story and gave up after the fourth or fifth leap of paranoid faith they were asking of me. Sorry, I'm not coming with your tortured game of Twister logic connecting Media Matters to George Soros to Obama to first grader orgy parties through 15+ degrees of separation. Not even Kevin Bacon needs that many.

re: #124 sattv4u2
I bet you're correct. Nelson is just trying to call off the dogs with that one.
There's absolutely no way to tell what this mess will or won't include.
But this is a preview....
[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

Fact is that Berkeley is tough to get in and tough to get out. And then there's Engineering. It sent me to the hospital. Fifteen minutes into my EE 40 final someone puked from the pressure. I looked up and thought to myself, someone's puking; I can handle that and went back to work.

My favorite engineering class was EE 120, Linear Systems but all of my other favorite classes were in the Classics Department. Brilliant teachers.

The Civil Engineers won the ASCE National Concrete Canoe Competition in 2009, which was cool for family bragging right because my cousin was on the University of Alabama Huntsville team that won it.

I love every step I take on campus. I love talking to students and alums. It was worth every bit of pain.

re: #125 iceweasel

I was being sarcastic when I called it a commie uni, don't worry. Great school, still wish they'd let Hoops in. :)

My College: The beloved Alumni
[Link: sonomaseawolves.com...]

re: #129 Olsonist

I had four years of Algebra I in high school.

re: #131 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I had four years of Algebra I in high school.

6th grade was the best three years of my life!

re: #131 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I had four years of Algebra I in high school.

How many of calculus I ?

re: #123 Thanos

Did you do much with MIDI on the Atari, or did you do the music stuff on a Mac like most musicians?

Yeah, I had the Hybrid Arts software -- in fact I did some programming work for Hybrid Arts. And my company, Codehead Technologies, marketed a MIDI program called MIDIMax, that let people define MIDI macros for setting up their instruments, and could be used as a sort of simple sequencer.

But the Atari MIDI software never reached the same level of sophistication as the Apple stuff.

re: #133 Naso Tang

How many of calculus I ?

I am the anti-"Rainman".

re: #129 Olsonist

Fact is that Berkeley is tough to get in and tough to get out. And then there's Engineering.

I got accepted to Stanford but turned down by Berkeley. It was actually quite shocking to me at the time, but Berkeley engineering was just that competitive.

I ended giving Stanford the finger and going to UC San Diego.

re: #134 Charles

Yeah, I had the Hybrid Arts software -- in fact I did some programming work for Hybrid Arts. And my company, Codehead Technologies, marketed a MIDI program called MIDIMax, that let people define MIDI macros for setting up their instruments, and could be used as a sort of simple sequencer.

But the Atari MIDI software never reached the same level of sophistication as the Apple stuff.

Very cool - I liked the Hybrid arts stuff. I remember doing my own arrangement of "Summertime" in it even though I have zero music chops.

re: #136 Jaerik

I got accepted to Stanford but turned down by Berkeley. It was actually quite shocking to me at the time, but Berkeley engineering was just that competitive.

I ended giving Stanford the finger and going to UC San Diego.

UC San Diego is a fucking awesome school. I both love and hate the Furd. I worked in Silicon Valley and there were so many startups that got started by Stanford. Berkeley's measure of success was getting their students accepted by top ten grad schools. Stanford's measure of success was businesses created.

re: #131 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I had four years of Algebra I in high school.

hahaha.
I did too.

re: #131 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You don't need to understand algebra.... that's what the calculator app on your phone is for.///
Only two people in my huge freshman algebra class flunked it... and a red-shirted football player was the other one.
I found a science alternative for those two requirements and never looked back.///

re: #138 Olsonist

Stanford's measure of success was businesses created.

Yup, a lot of Stanford engineering's success comes from being right next door to Sand Hill Rd. It's arguably infinitely more valuable than their actual education.

Sand Hill Rd = VC Alley.....

re: #135 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I am the anti-"Rainman".

You know I passed Trig in College? Some mentor told me all I needed to remember was an Indian Called Chief Sohcahtoa...
s=o/h, c=a/h t=o/a
Apparently every trig problem can be solved by chief sahcahtoa.
T=o/a? The tangent angle equals the opposite angle divided by the adjacent angle...Call me crazy but it works

What a perfect video. Great stuff!

re: #139 reine.de.tout

hahaha.
I did too.

I had at least 4 years, maybe more, of Latin.

re: #89 Stanley Sea

HA! That's a good one.

The "pants tent" in particular cracked me up - that was actually a real nontroversy at one point.

re: #141 Jaerik

Yup, a lot of Stanford engineering's success comes from being right next door to Sand Hill Rd. It's arguably infinitely more valuable than their actual education.

Ixnay. Sand Hill Road is right next to Stanford.

Google got started at Stanford. Larry+Sergei were grad students essentially redoing what Altavista and several others had already done. Nothing particularly novel. But they did come up with PageRank and got a patent for it which Stanford paid for and then licensed back to them

for nothing.

Stanford owned the patent and nobody but nobody fucks with the Stanford legal department. Nobody. In the end Stanford knows that its alums will give back. They just do. (Actually Cisco is a sore point since the founders were alums but rather sysadmins).

Andy Bechtolsheim (Sun co-founder and Stanford alum) gave them a $250,000 check on the strength of a laptop demo.

Sorry, but SV is next to Stanford, not the other way around. HP, CISCO, Sun, ....

I had no trouble getting out of Stanford. I left at 3 weeks old and never looked back.

I'm halfway through the Bloggingheads video. It's great! But I'll have to watch the rest on Monday. First business day of the year (today) was very good here. The shop is a mess. I'm leaving that for Monday too. Now, I'm off to find a Catropractor.

re: #149 wrenchwench

I'm halfway through the Bloggingheads video. It's great! But I'll have to watch the rest on Monday. First business day of the year (today) was very good here. The shop is a mess. I'm leaving that for Monday too. Now, I'm off to find a Catropractor.

So cute!

re: #148 EmmmieG

I had no trouble getting out of Stanford. I left at 3 weeks old and never looked back.

Another California kid!
Funny thing about what town I was born in..
I was born in Firebaugh,Ca.
Fireball?
Firebaugh..
Fireball! That's cool
No Firebaugh!
Fireball..Cool dude..
No Firebaugh...
Fireball..Cool...
Firebaugh..Down the road from Fresno..
Dude not cool..Fresno?
Fireball dude..mega cool
Firebaugh?
No Fireball

Conn Carroll gets increasingly upset during the video. I didn't see him during the recording -- it's very interesting to see him get so agitated when the issues start to get closer to his biases.

I'm watching "The Soloist".

Boy is this a feel good movie or what?

Feel like I'm watching 'The Wrestler'.

re: #152 Charles

Conn Carroll gets increasingly upset during the video. I didn't see him during the recording -- it's very interesting to see him get so agitated when the issues start to get closer to his biases.

I'm at the part about Pat Buchanan now and he's getting more and more upset.

Really great interview though--congrats!

re: #152 Charles

Conn Carroll gets increasingly upset during the video. I didn't see him during the recording -- it's very interesting to see him get so agitated when the issues start to get closer to his biases.

This interview gets interesting once Conn Carroll starts getting angry at you. Not that the beginning was boring, but I already know your background from reading the blog.

I can't believe that he says Pat Buchanan is not mainstream, he's the face of the Republican party on MSNBC. You mention that Hannity calls him "the great" Pat Buchanan, he also frequently refers to him as "Brother Buchanan" on the radio and he's on all the time. If Hannity doesn't represent the mainstream of conservative pundits, I don't know who does.

re: #153 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm watching "The Soloist".

Boy is this a feel good movie or what?

Feel like I'm watching 'The Wrestler'.

Depends on who you're feeling, no!?!?!

re: #155 RealismRox

This interview gets interesting once Conn Carroll starts getting angry at you. Not that the beginning was boring, but I already know your background from reading the blog.

I can't believe that he says Pat Buchanan is not mainstream, he's the face of the Republican party on MSNBC. You mention that Hannity calls him "the great" Pat Buchanan, he also frequently refers to him as "Brother Buchanan" on the radio and he's on all the time. If Hannity doesn't represent the mainstream of conservative pundits, I don't know who does.

Yes, that's exactly where I am now. Who is Conn Carroll and why is he so invested in pretending that Buchanan isn't mainstream???

re: #107 HoosierHoops

Agreed.. Last summer I came across an ex-lizard by the nic of Iamtoast..
They said you banned them and all they were doing was rubbing their dog's belly... So I logged into the site and said CJ sure is a mean guy..So you were just rubbing doggies belly?
It was so laughable..Remember Iamtoast's last posting? LOL..Like when Song and Dance man over at the stalker sight claimed you only banned him for posting in the 'Spirit'
You can't make this stuff upi

He was just continuing the dance he started when he got banned. Let me tell you the steps (this has been posted before but one of the steps is new):

1. Log on to LGF and drop a turd of a comment on a thread.

2. When people call your attention to the turd you dropped, whine and complain about how "LGF is not as open as it used to be".

3 (new step): Seethe and rage in butthurt craziness after iceweasel kicks your ass.

4. Hurl insults when other people point out that you got things rolling by dropping the turd.

5. Get bounced out on your ass by Charles.

6. Brag about your "brave truth telling" on the stalker blogs while nibbling your martyr cookies.

re: #157 iceweasel

Yes, that's exactly where I am now. Who is Conn Carroll and why is he so invested in pretending that Buchanan isn't mainstream???

He works at the Heritage Foundation.

re: #152 Charles

Conn Carroll gets increasingly upset during the video. I didn't see him during the recording -- it's very interesting to see him get so agitated when the issues start to get closer to his biases.

Yes, he started getting his panties in a real wad when you hit the AGW segment, from there it went downhill. That whole segment on Oregon and Euthanasia was him trying to stuff words in your mouth, and you could see that it's prime issue to him, try as he might to pose as a moderate. I wish you had have brought up Schiavo however for a couple of reasons. To see the effect on him, and to really determine how much he wants to interfer in family decisions.

There are a lot of scions from the heritage foundation out there really driving the right wing blogosphere. Robert Spencer is also one of theirs iirc.

re: #159 Charles

He works at the Heritage Foundation.

Thanks, that explains quite a bit.
The oregon/euthanasia segment is pretty out there. He's losing it.

Blue Moon Eclipse

re: #158 Dark_Falcon

It's deja vu all over again.

re: #157 iceweasel

Yes, that's exactly where I am now. Who is Conn Carroll and why is he so invested in pretending that Buchanan isn't mainstream???

Conservatives want no part of Buchanan. They can discount him as "mainstream" due to several factors. In both 1992 and 1996 he mustered only 20% of votes in Republican primaries. In 2000 he ran in the "Reform" party, denouncing both main parties

Now Carroll is demanding to know where the photos of teaparters came from--"did they come from people sympathetic to the teapartiers, or from people like you that hate them?"

Yeah, that's a real gotcha. Not.

re: #165 sattv4u2

Conservatives want no part of Buchanan.

If conservatives "want no part of Buchanan," explain why his columns are published at every single conservative website.

re: #159 Charles

He works at the Heritage Foundation.

Rapid Response Team or some sort....
[Link: www.heritage.org...]

re: #167 Charles

If conservatives "want no part of Buchanan," explain why his columns are published at every single conservative website.

The same reason he's a main contributor to MSNBC. He's a "name", he has a history, and he's a rabble rouser/ crumudgeon now

re: #165 sattv4u2

That used to be true but it's not anymore. If you dig into the NY Conservative party who lost a Republican seat in NY you will find a heck of a lot of old Buchanan Brigaders.
I wouldn't be surprised to see him speak at CPAC this year.

re: #158 Dark_Falcon

Aw, thanks for including me in there! blush

All those turds at the stalker sites are insane. It's pretty damn strange how many of them, who were banned for years before I even joined LGF, are always talking about what a bitch I am.
Except they don't use a word as nice as bitch.

re: #167 Charles

If conservatives "want no part of Buchanan," explain why his columns are published at every single conservative website.

To be kind, imho, Buchanan is pretty darn close to full fledged anti-semitism.

Rollercoaster Track Parkour

re: #169 sattv4u2

The same reason he's a main contributor to MSNBC. He's a "name", he has a history, and he's a rabble rouser/ crumudgeon now

Yes, that must be it.

Also, all the conservative sites that publish him are actually sites run by lefties who just want to make the right look bad.

re: #158 Dark_Falcon

He was just continuing the dance he started when he got banned. Let me tell you the steps (this has been posted before but one of the steps is new):

1. Log on to LGF and drop a turd of a comment on a thread.

2. When people call your attention to the turd you dropped, whine and complain about how "LGF is not as open as it used to be".

3 (new step): Seethe and rage in butthurt craziness after iceweasel kicks your ass.

4. Hurl insults when other people point out that you got things rolling by dropping the turd.

5. Get bounced out on your ass by Charles.

6. Brag about your "brave truth telling" on the stalker blogs while nibbling your martyr cookies.

Charles has always been fair..5 simple rules on top and you can post anything you like..
Every Sunday Morning There is an LGF Prayer list.. We have seen miracles in Lizards lives..And not once has Charles ever declared the end of prayers at LGF...He is a very fair man that doesn't put up with BS.

re: #174 iceweasel

Yes, that must be it.

Also, all the conservative sites that publish him are actually sites run by lefties who just want to make the right look bad.

SWINGANDAMISS

Strike one

But thanks for trying to put words in my mouth

re: #171 iceweasel

Aw, thanks for including me in there! blush

All those turds at the stalker sites are insane. It's pretty damn strange how many of them, who were banned for years before I even joined LGF, are always talking about what a bitch I am.
Except they don't use a word as nice as bitch.

They do it to anyone who defends Charles, ice. To be hated by those goofballs is a badge of honor.

re: #169 sattv4u2

The same reason he's a main contributor to MSNBC. He's a "name", he has a history, and he's a rabble rouser/ crumudgeon now

So you're saying that Human Events, Townhall.com, World Net Daily, etc, etc, are all publishing Buchanan's columns because they're suffering from nostalgia for the good ol' days?

And the thousands of commenters who support Buchanan at those sites -- they're all in the grip of nostalgia too?

And the right wing bloggers like Robert Stacy McCain who frequently post links to Buchanan's columns -- all nostalgic for the good ol' days?

re: #161 Thanos

There are a lot of scions from the heritage foundation out there really driving the right wing blogosphere. Robert Spencer is also one of theirs iirc.

Correction: Spencer was a Fellow at Free Congress Foundation, Weyrich's stink tank, it's D'souza from DI that was fellow at Heritage.

re: #172 Taqyia2Me

To be kind, imho, Buchanan is pretty darn close to full fledged anti-semitism.

Part of that is because of his stupid assertion in September 2009, he had used the occasion of the 70th anniversary of the German invasion of Poland to argue that Britain should not have declared war on Germany and MSNBC removed a Buchanan opinion column from its website after receiving complaints from Jewish organizations

Another part is during the campaign for the 2000 Presidential elections, the comic strip Doonesbury included a story line where Buchanan is implied to be a neo-Nazi, using dirty tricks to keep the Doonesbury character Uncle Duke from becoming a competitor for the Reform Party of the United States of America nomination

re: #165 sattv4u2

Conservatives want no part of Buchanan.

Correction. Conservatives want absolutely no part of that ridiculous Pat Buchanan except when they want part of Pat Buchanan.

Sorry for the confusion.

re: #176 sattv4u2

SWINGANDAMISS

Strike one

But thanks for trying to put words in my mouth

No, I'm making a form of argument known as reductio ad absurdum: showing that your premises lead to a preposterous conclusion.

I've seen several posters here argue that Buchanan is only on MSNBC as part of a vicious lefty plot intended to make the right look bad. I am jesting in suggesting that every single conservative site that hosts him is also a seekrit lefty plot intended to make the right look bad.

I am certain that the sane conservatives don't want any part of Buchanan. Unfortunately, they are not in control of the right anymore.

re: #178 Charles

So you're saying that Human Events, Townhall.com, World Net Daily, etc, etc, are all publishing Buchanan's columns because they're suffering from nostalgia for the good ol' days?

And the thousands of commenters who support Buchanan at those sites -- they're all in the grip of nostalgia too?

And the right wing bloggers like Robert Stacy McCain who frequently post links to Buchanan's columns -- all nostalgic for the good ol' days?

Somewhat. I'm stating he's became a "media name" post his last attempt at running in the Repub primary due to his ties to the Reagan admin.

Hannity LOVES Reagan. Many conservative sites follow Hannitys lead

HENCE ,,,,

re: #181 Olsonist

He's invited to CPAC every year.

re: #180 sattv4u2

Part of that is because of his stupid assertion in September 2009, he had used the occasion of the 70th anniversary of the German invasion of Poland to argue that Britain should not have declared war on Germany and MSNBC removed a Buchanan opinion column from its website after receiving complaints from Jewish organizations

Another part is during the campaign for the 2000 Presidential elections, the comic strip Doonesbury included a story line where Buchanan is implied to be a neo-Nazi, using dirty tricks to keep the Doonesbury character Uncle Duke from becoming a competitor for the Reform Party of the United States of America nomination

Do you recall why he argued Britain should not have declared war on Germany at that time?

re: #182 iceweasel

I've seen several posters here argue that Buchanan is only on MSNBC as part of a vicious lefty plot intended to make the right look bad

So you project THAT on to ME

wow ,, talk about reductio ad absurdum

SWINGANDAMISS

Strike TWO

re: #186 sattv4u2

I've seen several posters here argue that Buchanan is only on MSNBC as part of a vicious lefty plot intended to make the right look bad

So you project THAT on to ME

wow ,, talk about reductio ad absurdum

SWINGANDAMISS

Strike TWO

What did she say to project that onto you? I think you need to look more carefully. I don't think iceweasel is going after you.

re: #185 Taqyia2Me

Do you recall why he argued Britain should not have declared war on Germany at that time?

I don't recall the genisis of it, but I do recall reading/ hearing about it and disagreeing with him on it

re: #177 Dark_Falcon

They do it to anyone who defends Charles, ice. To be hated by those goofballs is a badge of honor.

Truth, and let us not forget that the douchebags there hate women generally, especially one who kicks their ass in an argument.

Not that it's difficult. My favourite comment over there was one where someone from Scotland was whining about Jimmah and how he's so horribly immoral he can't possibly really be from Scotland.

That's right. Someone made a "no True Scotsman" argument.....about an actual Scot.
Teh stupid, it not only burns, it crashs.

re: #188 sattv4u2

I don't recall the genisis of it, but I do recall reading/ hearing about it and disagreeing with him on it

As do I!

re: #158 Dark_Falcon

3 (new step): Seethe and rage in butthurt craziness after iceweasel kicks your ass.

Heh. At one point I thought they ought to rename themselves as the Post-iceweasel Butthurt Trauma Support Group.

re: #187 Dark_Falcon

What did she say to project that onto you? I think you need to look more carefully. I don't think iceweasel is going after you.

Read 169, then 174

((and paranthetically, I could care less if someone is "going after me" or not))

re: #187 Dark_Falcon

What did she say to project that onto you? I think you need to look more carefully. I don't think iceweasel is going after you.

What's actually happening here is that he's getting his ass handed to him by others, especially Charles, and is too afraid to attack them directly. So he retaliates by trying to provoke a flamewar with me. Not going to happen.

Seen it before, and I'm more than happy enough to watch others keep handing him his ass, and watch him persist in wearing it as a hat.

re: #193 iceweasel

What's actually happening here is that he's getting his ass handed to him by others, especially Charles, and is too afraid to attack them directly. So he retaliates by trying to provoke a flamewar with me. Not going to happen.

Seen it before, and I'm more than happy enough to watch others keep handing him his ass, and watch him persist in wearing it as a hat.

scuse me !?!!?
Who tried to initiate a "flame war"?!?!?

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Just to refresh your memory:

Bush Plays the Hitler Card

LGF coverage

re: #194 sattv4u2

scuse me !?!!?
Who tried to initiate a "flame war"?!?!?

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Ah yes. Let us drop the issue of Buchanan, quickly, quickly! and try to initiate a fight about iceweasel.

Sorry. Not going to happen.
PS, you just validated everything I've said, btw.

re: #152 Charles

Conn Carroll gets increasingly upset during the video. I didn't see him during the recording -- it's very interesting to see him get so agitated when the issues start to get closer to his biases.

That was a very good interview. You touched on many subjects. Amazing how this guy relegates the SPLC as a (paraphrasing) a "hate business". Then it seems like his only real concern is euthanasia in Oregon? Come on!

re: #196 iceweasel

Ah yes. Let us drop the issue of Buchanan, quickly, quickly! and try to initiate a fight about iceweasel.

Sorry. Not going to happen.
PS, you just validated everything I've said, btw.

I was talking about Buchanan the entire time
You moved away from the subject

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

re: #197 Stanley Sea

That was a very good interview. You touched on many subjects. Amazing how this guy relegates the SPLC as a (paraphrasing) a "hate business". Then it seems like his only real concern is euthanasia in Oregon? Come on!

Notice that he diverted the issue entirely away from the fact that "Mass Resistance" is an anti-gay hate group, by moving the goal posts to talk about the SPLC.

re: #195 Olsonist

Just to refresh your memory:

Bush Plays the Hitler Card

LGF coverage

Bingo.
BTW, it's moronic to claim that people keep Buchanan around out of reverence for Reagan. The fact is, Buchanan's horrific culture war speech at the RNC in 92 should have meant all decent people, especially on the right, should have shunned him forever.

Buchanan:

"First, America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known."

He appeared on the: June 29, 2008, and September 14, 2006, editions of The Political Cesspool Radio Show, a program whose "Statement of Principles" asserts that it "represent[s] a philosophy that is pro-White."

He's stated that for America to survive we must not let the people of European decent become the minority.

Video: "White men made this country"...

Conn Carroll...
"fair enough!" 23 times so far...
is that significant?

re: #16 Alouette

Iceberg: the Jew who sank the Titanic.

I got one to tell you: joke #27

re: #200 iceweasel

Bingo.
BTW, it's moronic to claim that people keep Buchanan around out of reverence for Reagan. The fact is, Buchanan's horrific culture war speech at the RNC in 92 should have meant all decent people, especially on the right, should have shunned him forever.

Hence his 20% in both 92 and 96 and not even getting off the ground in 2000, thus running a Reform Party candidacy, which is where I started

I actually think that getting his ass kicked by Daddy Bush in 1992, then coming in a very distant also ran to Dole in 96 pushed him over the edge. He tried to get back at Daddy Bush in 2000 by running a (what he thought would be ) Perot style take out of Bush 2 like Perot did to Bush 1 in 96 (imho)

re: #178 Charles

Buchanan is a POS, but he's also published by dozens of newspapers ( including the Chicago Sun Times and The Miami Herald, The Boston Globe, The Washington Post...) and is a staple commentator for MSNBC. He's also a regular for Real Clear Politics and of course The McLaughlin Group.
If there's some accusation of a nefarious right wing extremist agenda to be attributed to all that publish Buchanan, then it's going to be a long list.

None should publish him, but they do.

And one more time, just so I am clear. Buchanan is an anti-semitic, racist, near neo nazi piece of crap who should not be given all the publicity he gets from many sources.

re: #201 recusancy

It is one thing for a site to allow that sort of bile as an undeleted comment. It is another thing altogether to have him as a regular paid contributor.

This isn't big tent conservatism. This is wink wink conservatism.

re: #202 albusteve

Conn Carroll...
"fair enough!" 23 times so far...
is that significant?

I was just thinking the same thing.... some one should count the "fair enoughs" in the video.

re: #169 sattv4u2

The same reason he's a main contributor to MSNBC. He's a "name", he has a history, and he's a rabble rouser/ crumudgeon now

Makes me want to ask why Ben Stein is often heard as if he is an expert on national issues?

re: #36 Alouette
What does schlepped mean?

Dragged around.

Wasn't schlep one of the three stooges?

re: #206 Olsonist

It is one thing for a site to allow that sort of bile as an undeleted comment. It is another thing altogether to have him as a regular paid contributor.

This isn't big tent conservatism. This is wink wink conservatism.

Yep. As I've said before, they're still the party of the 'big tent'.
It's just that now it's a big, white tent made out of a sheet.

...and did you know that, as a student, Richard Feynman demonstrated that he could pee while standing on his head?

re: #207 ArchangelMichael

I was just thinking the same thing... some one should count the "fair enoughs" in the video.

is it a wimpy concession?...some Freudian roll over?
mwahahaha!

re: #205 captdiggs

Buchanan is a POS, but he's also published by dozens of newspapers ( including the Chicago Sun Times and The Miami Herald, The Boston Globe, The Washington Post...) and is a staple commentator for MSNBC. He's also a regular for Real Clear Politics and of course The McLaughlin Group.
If there's some accusation of a nefarious right wing extremist agenda to be attributed to all that publish Buchanan, then it's going to be a long list.

None should publish him, but they do.

And one more time, just so I am clear. Buchanan is an anti-semitic, racist, near neo nazi piece of crap who should not be given all the publicity he gets from many sources.

Absolutely. And your points only reinforce the one Charles originally made in that video, and that Conn Carroll tries to object to: While Buchanan is a piece of shit, he absolutely IS mainstream on the right. Not 'fringe'.
If 'conservatives want no part of him' they're doing a damn poor job of showing it.

re: #208 Naso Tang

Makes me want to ask why Ben Stein is often heard as if he is an expert on national issues?

For just about the same reason. With Buchanan, it was Reagan, with Stein, it's the ties with Nixon and Ford

Look around the media today. MANY commentators worked for former Presidents. Matthews, Stephanopoulous, Stein, Buchanan, the list goes on and on and on

re: #209 Stuart Leviton

What does schlepped mean?

Wasn't schlep one of the three stooges?

I think that was shlup.

And on that note, I begin the long, cold quiet ride home

FINALLY ,,,, 2 days off IN A ROW!!

Whooo Hooo !!!

re: #209 Stuart Leviton

What does schlepped mean?

Wasn't schlep one of the three stooges?

Why, I oughtta...

re: #214 sattv4u2

For just about the same reason. With Buchanan, it was Reagan, with Stein, it's the ties with Nixon and Ford

Look around the media today. MANY commentators worked for former Presidents. Matthews, Stephanopoulous, Stein, Buchanan, the list goes on and on and on

What's the name? The guy who got caught with the hookers; chubby, talks out of the left side of his mouth, with a pending slobber, used to be a democrat?

re: #218 Naso Tang

What's the name? The guy who got caught with the hookers; chubby, talks out of the left side of his mouth, with a pending slobber, used to be a democrat?

Fox News's own Dick Morris.

re: #218 Naso Tang

What's the name? The guy who got caught with the hookers; chubby, talks out of the left side of his mouth, with a pending slobber, used to be a democrat?

re: #218 Naso Tang

What's the name? The guy who got caught with the hookers; chubby, talks out of the left side of his mouth, with a pending slobber, used to be a democrat?

Dick Morris

re: #218 Naso Tang

Dick Morris?

re: #216 sattv4u2

And on that note, I begin the long, cold quiet ride home

FINALLY ,,, 2 days off IN A ROW!!

Whooo Hooo !!!

Make sure you enjoy them. Catch up on your sleep and have fun.

re: #219 recusancy

Fox News's own Dick Morris.

bingo. Can't stand him, and it's totally a matter of first impressions.

re: #218 Naso Tang

What's the name? The guy who got caught with the hookers; chubby, talks out of the left side of his mouth, with a pending slobber, used to be a democrat?

The difference is that Dick Morris is not a true believer of any stripe, but rather is a species of mercenary.

re: #219 recusancy

Fox News's own Dick Morris.

Hmmm,, he was the darling of the left when he was helping Clinton win two elections, and providing cover for him during Lewinsky, but as soon as he fell out of favor with Hillary he's not "Fox News's own",,,

hmmmm

re: #224 Dark_Falcon

The difference is that Dick Morris is not a true believer of any stripe, but rather is a species of mercenary.

And the other true believers are....

re: #218 Naso Tang

What's the name? The guy who got caught with the hookers; chubby, talks out of the left side of his mouth, with a pending slobber, used to be a democrat?

Don't know that he "used to be" anything other than what he is now. A beltway-insider opportunist who thinks and acts like politics is a sport. There is very little difference between listening to him talk and listening to the sports media talk about the NFL or NBA. Just change the nouns involved and its the same crap. The only reason he seemed to switch is he was trying to back the winning team, and now that team is a underdog.

re: #225 sattv4u2

Hmmm,, he was the darling of the left when he was helping Clinton win two elections, and providing cover for him during Lewinsky, but as soon as he fell out of favor with Hillary he's not NOW "Fox News's own",,,

hmmm

pimf

And my cars warmed up, so off I go

re: #225 sattv4u2

Hmmm,, he was the darling of the left when he was helping Clinton win two elections, and providing cover for him during Lewinsky, but as soon as he fell out of favor with Hillary he's not "Fox News's own",,,

hmmm

Actually, the left hated him before that.

re: #225 sattv4u2

Hmmm,, he was the darling of the left when he was helping Clinton win two elections, and providing cover for him during Lewinsky, but as soon as he fell out of favor with Hillary he's not "Fox News's own",,,

hmmm

You're right. He's a total leftist, always going on Hannity and spilling bile towards Obama and every democrat every chance he gets.

re: #224 Dark_Falcon

The difference is that Dick Morris is not a true believer of any stripe, but rather is a species of mercenary.

Yes, exactly.
FWIW, I have always suspected that Coulter and Limbaugh are also a bit like that. They entered the scene at a time when they could make oodles of cash with their particular schticks, but had there been the money at the time in being that kind of asshole for the left, they'd have happily done that.

No idea if this is true, just a sense I get from them.

re: #229 iceweasel

Actually, the left hated him before that.

Not when he was in Clintons inner circle and in the "war room" with Stephanopoulous, Carville and Begala

re: #223 Naso Tang

I don't think he was ever a Democrat per se. And was certainly never a darling of the left. Clinton was an exceptionally smart politician and knew how to use him and listen to him to get elected.

re: #232 sattv4u2

Not when he was in Clintons inner circle and in the "war room" with Stephanopoulous, Carville and Begala

That is just factually wrong.

re: #231 iceweasel

Beck Too. Theres a whole generation of (especially radio and book) 'pundits' who got on the conservative cash cow early and hard.

re: #234 Olsonist

That is just factually wrong.

How so??

After the 1994 mid-term election where Republicans took control of both houses of the United States Congress and gained considerable power in the states, Clinton once again sought Morris' help to prepare for the 1996 Presidential election. It was Morris who proposed a strategy that is now referred to as "triangulation," where Clinton would appeal to a diverse group of voters by distancing himself from both the Democratic and Republican parties.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

re: #232 sattv4u2

Not when he was in Clintons inner circle and in the "war room" with Stephanopoulous, Carville and Begala

Actually, the left hated Dick Morris for convincing Bill Clinton to sign the Welfare Reform Congress had passed in 1996. Two of Clinton's officials actually resigned when Clinton signed the bill, and the left has disliked Dick Morris ever since.

re: #234 Olsonist

Morris interview with Frontline:

From his point of view, he had a liberal Democratic staff that disapproved of everything I would urge. And he wasn't about to announce me with great fanfare if I wasn't able to really make the grade and give him advice that was effective. So both of us were sort of having a trial marriage. And we both figured it was better for me to be involved secretly. So I made up a code name, "Charlie" -- which, by the way, is the name of my favorite Republican political consultant, Charlie Black. And I just thought it was kind of funny that I'd use a Republican name, working for Clinton.

re: #228 sattv4u2

re: #236 sattv4u2

couldn't pull yourself away eh? >>

re: #237 Dark_Falcon

Actually, the left hated Dick Morris for convincing Bill Clinton to sign the Welfare Reform Congress had passed in 1996. Two of Clinton's officials actually resigned when Clinton signed the bill, and the left has disliked Dick Morris ever since.

All true, but it doesn't mitigate the fact that Morris was THE man for C linton while running for Governor, and Clinton brought him back in after the Dems lost in 94

re: #239 windsagio

re: #236 sattv4u2

couldn't pull yourself away eh? >>

I'm wasting gas. I went out to warm up my SUV, came back in to log off ,,, and BAM ,, here I is!

re: #240 sattv4u2

All true, but it doesn't mitigate the fact that Morris was THE man for C linton while running for Governor, and Clinton brought him back in after the Dems lost in 94

Entirely true.

re: #241 sattv4u2

"Fair Enough"

;)

re: #242 Dark_Falcon

Entirely true.

And thats all I said. He was part of Clintons inner circle, with the other 3 I mentioned
ALL at variious times ,, sometimes all together

I"M

OUT !!!

re: #225 sattv4u2

Hmmm,, he was the darling of the left when he was helping Clinton win two elections, and providing cover for him during Lewinsky, but as soon as he fell out of favor with Hillary he's not "Fox News's own",,,

hmmm

Yes, but you said he was the darling of the Left during the Presidency. In reality he was Clinton's secret advisor because the Stephanopolous etc hated him so much. Morris knew what to say and how to say it. Clinton knew what to do. It made for a good team.

re: #246 Olsonist

He was the hate-sex of the Left.

re: #247 Obdicut

He was the hate-sex of the Left.

Ok, now that's just funny as hell.

re: #247 Obdicut

He was the hate-sex of the Left.

There is some of that. I always wanted to know what he knew. The only decent political operative book I've ever read was Hard Ball. The Candidate is by far the best operative movie.

Anyone know any other decent operative books/movies?