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Way out west there was this fella I wanna tell ya about. Goes by the name of Jeff Lebowski. At least that was the handle his loving parents gave him, but he never had much use for it himself. See, this Lebowski, he called himself “The Dude”. Now, “Dude” - there’s a name no man would self-apply where I come from. But then there was a lot about the Dude that didn’t make a whole lot of sense. And a lot about where he lived, likewise. But then again, maybe that’s why I found the place so darned interestin’. See, they call Los Angeles the “City Of Angels”; but I didn’t find it to be that, exactly. But I’ll allow it as there are some nice folks there. ‘Course I ain’t never been to London, and I ain’t never seen France. And I ain’t never seen no queen in her damned undies, so the feller says. But I’ll tell you what - after seeing Los Angeles, and this here story I’m about to unfold, well, I guess I seen somethin’ every bit as stupefyin’ as you’d seen in any of them other places. And in English, too. So I can die with a smile on my face, without feelin’ like the good Lord gypped me.

The Stranger, “The Big Lebowski”

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430 comments
1 brookly red  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:11:30pm

Happy 2010…

2 webevintage  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:12:18pm

The Dude Abides


BTW, y’all the ending of the 10th Doctor last night was BRILLIANT.
Damn Russell Davies for making me cry after I swore I would not….damn him

3 Lidane  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:14:40pm

The Big Lebowski is one of my favorite bar films ever. Sitting around and watching it with friends over drinks is great fun.

Since this is an open thread, I’ll repost the link I put in the Fox Nation thread, with Brit Hume’s solution to the Tiger Woods scandal:

[Link: www.politico.com…]

Also, did you know that Obama’s mental state and grasp of foreign policy can be diagnosed via Flickr?

[Link: www.balloon-juice.com…]

Fun times.

4 brookly red  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:17:49pm

re: #3 Lidane

5 brookly red  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:19:01pm

that was supposed to say… /I don’t know about Flicker but if you enter the symptoms into WebMD…

6 MandyManners  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:19:16pm

When I was 11, I was taken by my mother to visit her birthplace in Kennington, London.

As we walked around my mother showed me where the air-raid shelters were during the war, but then she began telling me about the Blackshirt meetings.

At 11 it did not mean much to me but it has played on my mind ever since.

I decided to reopen the case of how the Blackshirts attempted to recruit my mother.

It led me to question how many British women supported Hitler during the war, and what was their fate?

“I could have ended up in prison,” my mother said.

And many of these women did.

Now aged 88, my mother told me about the ink factory she worked in as a young girl.

“At first I was packing ink, it was horrible.

“There I met Primrose, nobody liked her, but she invited me home.

“I met her family and I fell for it - they were trying to get me to be a Blackshirt.”

SNIP

7 erraticsphinx  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:21:35pm

re: #3 Lidane

Is this non-sensical Photogate XXII?

8 Lidane  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:23:14pm

re: #7 erraticsphinx

Is this non-sensical Photogate XXII?

No idea. I just found the story amusing is all. :)

9 Bagua  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:23:45pm

Sunday Afternoon Open Thread

Mishima (Opening)


- Philip Glass
10 tradewind  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:24:18pm

re: #6 MandyManners
Wow. I had no idea that situation even existed. All we ever heard about was the heroic resistance.
The British political scene nowdays is so fraught with splinter groups that it will be a miracle if some major royal family offspring doesn’t end up in one of them.

11 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:25:37pm
12 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:26:18pm

The Big Lebowski is one of the greatest films ever made, in my humble opinion. Very few films reach this level of sublime unhingedness.

13 HelloDare  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:27:16pm

White House: Al-Qaida Threat Closes US Embassy in Yemen

U.S. President Barack Obama’s top counter-terrorism advisor says a threat from an al-Qaida affiliate led to the closure of the American embassy in Yemen. VOA’s Paula Wolfson reports this same group has been linked to the attempted Christmas Day bombing of a U.S. airliner.

John Brennan says the embassy was closed to protect the lives of its staff.

“There are indications that al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula is targeting our embassy and targeting our personnel and we are not going to take any chances with the lives of our diplomats and others who are at that embassy,” he said.

The president’s homeland security advisor told the FOX News Sunday television program the United States is working with the Yemeni government to deal with the terrorist threat.

On NBC’s Meet the Press, he was asked if that means Yemen is a major new front in the war on terrorism.

Brennan said it has long been an area of concern.

“We have been focused on this issue,” he added. “We need to make sure that we continue to provide the training, the support that Yemen needs to counter this very serious threat.”

14 MandyManners  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:28:30pm

re: #10 tradewind

Wow. I had no idea that situation even existed. All we ever heard about was the heroic resistance.
The British political scene nowdays is so fraught with splinter groups that it will be a miracle if some major royal family offspring doesn’t end up in one of them.

An upper-class woman married Oswald Mosley.

As for the current royals, rumors have been rife about the Prince of Wales leaning toward Islam.

15 tradewind  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:29:02pm

POTUS: Got Coattails?

In December, the number of Americans identifying themselves as Democrats fell to the lowest level recorded in more than seven years


[Link: www.rasmussenreports.com…]
WSJ even predicting that Chris Dodd won’t run for reelection, citing a need for ’ more family time’.

16 brookly red  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:29:58pm

re: #14 MandyManners

An upper-class woman married Oswald Mosley.

As for the current royals, rumors have been rife about the Prince of Wales leaning toward Islam.

/but not dating an Egyptian…

17 tradewind  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:30:13pm

re: #14 MandyManners
Wow… you think they’d even have him?
:)

18 MandyManners  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:30:26pm

re: #13 HelloDare

I’m having trouble loading that one. Does it also report that Great Britain’s closed it’s embassy?

19 tradewind  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:31:58pm

re: #13 HelloDare
Wow…. how’d you like to be ambassador to Yemen. What a political plum that one must have been…..

20 HelloDare  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:32:06pm

re: #18 MandyManners

I’m having trouble loading that one. Does it also report that Great Britain’s closed it’s embassy?

Here’s the rest of it:

On NBC’s Meet the Press, he was asked if that means Yemen is a major new front in the war on terrorism.

Brennan said it has long been an area of concern.

“We have been focused on this issue,” he added. “We need to make sure that we continue to provide the training, the support that Yemen needs to counter this very serious threat.”

The United States and Britain have agreed to fund a new counter-terrorism police unit in Yemen. The British government, which has also closed its embassy there, is hosting a conference later this month designed to boost Yemen’s ability to fight terrorism.

On Saturday, President Obama said an al-Qaida affiliate in Yemen apparently trained and equipped the Nigerian man accused in the failed Christmas Day attack on a Detroit-bound Northwest Airlines flight.

Brennan - who is leading a White House investigation into the incident - told ABC’s This Week there were bits and pieces of information about the suspect, but no definitive evidence.

“There was no single piece of intelligence, a ‘smoking gun’ if you will, that said that Mr. Abdulmutallab was going to carry out his attack against that aircraft,” he explained.

Congress is planning hearings into the matter over the coming weeks. The top Republican on the Senate Intelligence Committee says he wants to know why so many Yemenis held at the U.S. detention center at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba have been sent back home in recent years.

Senator Kit Bond of Missouri told Fox News Sunday many of those returned to Yemen are now active in al-Qaida.

“I think the Bush administration has been shown to have made a mistake,” he said. “I hope the Obama administration will learn from that and not continue to commit the same mistake.”

Michigan Congressman Peter Hoekstra, the senior Republican on the House Committee on Intelligence, recently visited Yemen. He said there is no partisan divide in Washington on the nature of the threat now emanating from that country.

“It appears that we are now all on the same page,” he said. “We recognize the imminent threat. We are committed to enhancing our intelligence capabilities and our offensive capability to deal with this.”

Hoekstra was interviewed on ABC’s This Week.

21 Jeff In Ohio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:32:55pm

Well gee I’ll throw down “This is what happens when you fuck a stranger in the ass.” The subtext never felt more real.

Breads out, chickens in the oven, broccolis all steamed. Sounds like dinner time.

22 tradewind  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:33:06pm

re: #20 HelloDare
I saw that. Brennan was all about how fantastic and helpful the Yemenis are…. just first-rate partners in the war on terror.
/snort/

23 tradewind  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:33:45pm

re: #21 Jeff In Ohio
Subtext hell…. where’s the context?

24 MandyManners  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:34:00pm

re: #20 HelloDare

The link I posted this morning had the bit about GB closing it’s embassy.

25 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:37:40pm

Ok… this is something I didn’t hear about until now…

Some Dems Join GOP Opposition to Gitmo Transfers to Yemen - “I think it is a bad time to send the 90 or so Yemenis back to Yemen,” Harman told ABC’s “This Week.”

What? Just last week, I heard complaints about sending some Gitmo dudes back to the Saudi’s during the Bush administration… can this be any better?

26 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:39:29pm

re: #25 Walter L. Newton

Ok… this is something I didn’t hear about until now…

Some Dems Join GOP Opposition to Gitmo Transfers to Yemen - “I think it is a bad time to send the 90 or so Yemenis back to Yemen,” Harman told ABC’s “This Week.”

What? Just last week, I heard complaints about sending some Gitmo dudes back to the Saudi’s during the Bush administration… can this be any better?

I’m sorry, while I was typing the above comment, there are some other links showing up to the same story material above.

27 SixDegrees  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:40:19pm

re: #25 Walter L. Newton

Ok… this is something I didn’t hear about until now…

Some Dems Join GOP Opposition to Gitmo Transfers to Yemen - “I think it is a bad time to send the 90 or so Yemenis back to Yemen,” Harman told ABC’s “This Week.”

What? Just last week, I heard complaints about sending some Gitmo dudes back to the Saudi’s during the Bush administration… can this be any better?

Given that we just announced the closure of our embassy in Yeman, I’d suggest that now would be a very bad time, indeed, to be transferring such high-risk prisoners there.

28 tradewind  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:40:55pm

re: #25 Walter L. Newton
Another thing…..they’re gonna play hell getting that IL prison thing up and running due to funding it…. if you were a Dem running for reelection, would you want to be on record as having voted to pay for shipping the evildoers into Illinois?
I don’t think so.

29 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:40:58pm

re: #20 HelloDare

I don’t think this is the same. The Bush administration made all kinds of mistakes letting people out of Gitmo. If Obama let’s these people go back to Yemen, it will be fine.

30 brookly red  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:41:02pm

re: #25 Walter L. Newton

Ok… this is something I didn’t hear about until now…

Some Dems Join GOP Opposition to Gitmo Transfers to Yemen - “I think it is a bad time to send the 90 or so Yemenis back to Yemen,” Harman told ABC’s “This Week.”

What? Just last week, I heard complaints about sending some Gitmo dudes back to the Saudi’s during the Bush administration… can this be any better?

there is some hope after all…

31 tradewind  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:41:48pm

re: #25 Walter L. Newton
The problem is, eventually this administration will have played its last ’ Look What Bush Did’ card….
if they haven’t already.
Gets old.

32 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:42:16pm

re: #31 tradewind

The problem is, eventually this administration will have played its last ’ Look What Bush Did’ card…
if they haven’t already.
Gets old.

Didn’t we have a thread on that recently?

33 tradewind  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:43:24pm

re: #32 Walter L. Newton
Not an expert… you probably know better than I there.

34 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:43:37pm

re: #29 Walter L. Newton

I don’t think this is the same. The Bush administration made all kinds of mistakes letting people out of Gitmo. If Obama let’s these people go back to Yemen, it will be fine.

Until one of them tries to blow up a commercial flight, that is.

35 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:43:50pm

re: #31 tradewind

The problem is, eventually this administration will have played its last ’ Look What Bush Did’ card…
if they haven’t already.
Gets old.

Or the obstruction card. Seems to me that the senator from Nebraska and the senator from LA. and the independent Leibermann did all of the obstructing lately, until they got their way.

36 brookly red  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:43:56pm

re: #31 tradewind

The problem is, eventually this administration will have played its last ’ Look What Bush Did’ card…
if they haven’t already.
Gets old.

I think it’s a major part of the 2010 election strategy… yeah good luck with that.

37 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:44:21pm

re: #34 Slumbering Behemoth

Until one of them tries to blow up a commercial flight, that is.

If they do, it will be Bush’s fault, you know that.

38 MandyManners  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:44:26pm

re: #28 tradewind

Another thing…they’re gonna play hell getting that IL prison thing up and running due to funding it… if you were a Dem running for reelection, would you want to be on record as having voted to pay for shipping the *ALLEGED* evildoers into Illinois?
I don’t think so.

*snort*

39 MandyManners  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:46:14pm

Does anyone know how the Uighurs shipped to Barbados are faring?

40 rurality  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:46:22pm

re: #14 MandyManners

The Mitford sisters covered the gamut of politics in their day. Jessica became a communist, lived in America, wrote The American Way of Death. Diana married Mosley. Unity was a serious Hitler groupie, some claim lover and committed suicide. Debo became the Duchess of Devonshire. Nancy wrote Love in a Cold Climate. There are two more sisters, but can’t recall their stories.

41 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:47:16pm

re: #40 rurality

The Mitford sisters covered the gamut of politics in their day. Jessica became a communist, lived in America, wrote The American Way of Death. Diana married Mosley. Unity was a serious Hitler groupie, some claim lover and committed suicide. Debo became the Duchess of Devonshire. Nancy wrote Love in a Cold Climate. There are two more sisters, but can’t recall their stories.

What a group of outstanding people.

42 HelloDare  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:47:32pm

re: #19 tradewind

Wow… how’d you like to be ambassador to Yemen. What a political plum that one must have been…

You probably get that post because you didn’t donate any money.

43 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:48:01pm

re: #37 Walter L. Newton

If they do, it will be Bush’s fault, you know that.

Surely someone out there will stretch to make that connection. Is that how you see it?

44 tradewind  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:48:22pm

re: #36 brookly red
But wait…. it was the major part of the 2008 election strategy. No do-overs….

45 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:49:05pm

re: #43 Slumbering Behemoth

Surely someone out there will stretch to make that connection. Is that how you see it?

You never know, do you?

46 brookly red  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:49:34pm

re: #45 Walter L. Newton

You never know, do you?

well actually yes, you do.

47 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:49:55pm

re: #45 Walter L. Newton

All I know about you is what you tell me.

48 tradewind  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:50:08pm

re: #39 MandyManners
Dammit!! They went to Barbados??
That’s where I spent the first two nights on my honeymoon. Bet they are happy campers.

49 MandyManners  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:50:18pm

re: #40 rurality

The Mitford sisters covered the gamut of politics in their day. Jessica became a communist, lived in America, wrote The American Way of Death. Diana married Mosley. Unity was a serious Hitler groupie, some claim lover and committed suicide. Debo became the Duchess of Devonshire. Nancy wrote Love in a Cold Climate. There are two more sisters, but can’t recall their stories.

They really got around! I wonder what their family reunions were like.

50 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:50:59pm

re: #47 Slumbering Behemoth

All I know about you is what you tell me.

What the fuck are you talking about. I’m not talking about me, I’m talking about Gitmo, Yemen, prisoners etc. Bug off.

51 MandyManners  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:51:18pm

re: #48 tradewind

Dammit!! They went to Barbados??
That’s where I spent the first two nights on my honeymoon. Bet they are happy campers.

Better than going back to China where the government has a hard on about them.

52 rurality  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:51:24pm

re: #28 tradewind

I’m fine with them coming to Illinois. I don’t get the whole “not in my back yard’ thing. Are we that insecure about our security institutions? Do we think these prisoners are going to brainwash the guards? The prison is sitting there empty, the area needs jobs, and we arent a chicken shit country, right?

53 tradewind  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:52:19pm

re: #38 MandyManners
Whoops, my bad. Don’t want to stick ‘em with the evildoer label until they’ve been given all the rights of a fair trial before a jury of their fellow terrorists peers.
///

54 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:52:42pm

re: #12 Charles

The Big Lebowski is one of the greatest films ever made, in my humble opinion. Very few films reach this level of sublime unhingedness.

[Video]

When all my sons get together, they will spontaneously start random dialog from TBL.

55 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:53:14pm

re: #52 rurality

I’m fine with them coming to Illinois. I don’t get the whole “not in my back yard’ thing. Are we that insecure about our security institutions? Do we think these prisoners are going to brainwash the guards? The prison is sitting there empty, the area needs jobs, and we arent a chicken shit country, right?

I’m fine with them going to Illinois too. If that’s where the administration deems that they should be, who are we to differ. Obama knows what he is doing.

56 tradewind  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:53:17pm

re: #51 MandyManners
True dat. Aren’t these the ones who aren’t supposed to be baddies? And how did they end up in Afghanistan or Iraq anyway?

57 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:53:50pm

re: #50 Walter L. Newton

It seems I misunderstood your response. Perhaps you should switch to decaf, or see a doctor about getting that monkey out of your butt. I don’t know what I said that deserves a down ding and a “Bug off”.

Whatever. It’s your world, Walter. I’m only renting space.

58 brookly red  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:54:01pm

re: #52 rurality

I’m fine with them coming to Illinois. I don’t get the whole “not in my back yard’ thing. Are we that insecure about our security institutions? Do we think these prisoners are going to brainwash the guards? The prison is sitting there empty, the area needs jobs, and we arent a chicken shit country, right?

well it’s more about bestowing citizens rights upon them… it’s complicated.

59 MandyManners  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:54:08pm

re: #56 tradewind

True dat. Aren’t these the ones who aren’t supposed to be baddies? And how did they end up in Afghanistan or Iraq anyway?

I don’t recall.

60 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:55:12pm

re: #57 Slumbering Behemoth

It seems I misunderstood your response. Perhaps you should switch to decaf, or see a doctor about getting that monkey out of your butt. I don’t know what I said that deserves a down ding and a “Bug off”.

Whatever. It’s your world, Walter. I’m only renting space.

Yawn.

61 tradewind  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:55:33pm

re: #55 Walter L. Newton
But ya’ll are the enlightened, antithesis -of -the- bitter- clingers. Statistically, most Americans do not want them in their area. Major NIMBY going on.

62 brookly red  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:56:43pm

re: #55 Walter L. Newton

I’m fine with them going to Illinois too. If that’s where the administration deems that they should be, who are we to differ. Obama knows what he is doing.

Walter…

63 MandyManners  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:57:10pm

re: #56 tradewind

The Supreme Court announced on Tuesday that it will hear arguments from a group of Chinese Muslims who have been imprisoned at the Guantanamo Bay prison camp for more than seven years even after the Pentagon determined they are not threats to the United States.

The justices, as is custom, gave no reason for their decision to hear the case brought by a group of men known as Uighurs who are looking to leave Guantanamo.

The high court could have moved on the matter in June but it delayed action until now, possibly because of efforts by the Obama administration was taking to move the men out of Guantanamo. That same month, four Uighurs were relocated to Bermuda.

The Pacific island of Palau has agreed to take 12 of the remaining 13 Uighurs on a temporary basis. Last month, Solicitor General Elena Kagan sent a letter to the court saying that at least six of the men have agreed to the transfer. Government officials on the island nation report that several of the men refuse to go there fearing reprisals from their home country.

Relocating the Uighurs is just one part of a larger headache for the Obama administration’s efforts to meet its self-imposed pledge to close the facility by January.

The Uighurs were picked up in Afghanistan following the Sept. 11 attacks but have steadfastly maintained they had no role in supporting the Taliban, Al Qaeda or fighting the United States. The government does not allege the men are terrorists and insist they are free to go to any country they want—provided that country will take them. Palau has specifically said it will not accept one of the Guantanamo detainees, Arkin Mahmud.

SNIP

64 tradewind  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:57:23pm

re: #58 brookly red
There are concerns about demonstrations, and painting a target on the community. Prisoner complaints re food, prayer utilities, etc, dragging in the ACLU, and recruiting of other prisoners.
These aren’t my ideas, just repeating what panels have been talking about.

65 rurality  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:57:35pm

re: #58 brookly red

The prisoners rights, evidence, legality of their incarceration, trial procedure—the whole thing is one big clusterfuck that I’m not sure how to untangle. However, Gitmo is symbolic of this giant screwed pooch and it’s closing would sort of let us turn the page and proceed.

66 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:58:01pm

re: #58 brookly red

well it’s more about bestowing citizens rights upon them… it’s complicated.

No it’s not. If the administration wants them in Ill., then fine. If it doesn’t work out (which nothing has in the Obama administration yet) then they will be responsible for the fuck up. I’ve gotten to the point that I’m almost in total agreement with the Obama administration on almost everything, because I’ve noted, give them enough rope and they fucking hang themselves with it.

Look at health care, big pharma, the insurance industry, unbinding agreement in Copenhagen, Peace Prize to a war time president, the almost total lack of respect that Obam is getting overseas, especially from the middle east players and I could go on and on…

I’m behind him almost 100 percent…

67 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:58:36pm

Well, it took them about a day, but the stalkers are now showing up in the comments at Bloggingheads.tv.

Just posted there:

Charles Johnson is a libelous scumbag and a pedophile. Why do I call him a pedophile? Because he supports safe schools czar Kevin Jennings who believes we should teach “fisting” in our class rooms.

68 tradewind  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:58:40pm

re: #63 MandyManners
Thanks, Mandy.
Dammit, I wonder how they picked the lucky four who got to go to Bermuda?

69 tradewind  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:59:17pm

re: #66 Walter L. Newton
He’s learning fast that campaigning is one thing, governing is another.

70 tradewind  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:00:41pm

Got to force the shivering pups out into the frozen wilds.
Ya’ll have fun.

71 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:02:36pm

re: #69 tradewind

He’s learning fast that campaigning is one thing, governing is another.

One thing I have learned a long time ago. There is a certain point when you throw almost everything back in the lap of the “other” side. You stop arguing with them, stop trying to point out possible problems, stop attempting to find some common ground, because it’s not going to happen.

It gets to a point where you just have to let them take all the rope they need to hand themselves. And it does happen, and it will with our current administration. I am far from totally being on the “other side” from Obama, I’m actually seeing some reality coming around when it comes to terror, but, there is a whole lot of domestic issue that I don’t see eye to eye on, and this guy is going to be banging his head up against a wall very soon.

Watch.

72 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:04:18pm

re: #17 tradewind

Wow… you think they’d even have him?
:)

Well, Charles II ruled as a Protestant for political reasons, and became a Catholic on his deathbed out of conviction. I suppose Charles III could do something similar.

Or, he could move to Saudi, do whatever he wants, and hand the throne on to the kid. These people are too weird.

73 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:04:36pm

My pathology is better than your pathology…

74 Gus  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:05:25pm

re: #67 Charles

Well, it took them about a day, but the stalkers are now showing up in the comments at Bloggingheads.tv.

Just posted there:

More here.

He’s posted 9 times thus far after registering today. You might want to contact their admin.

75 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:06:06pm

re: #74 Gus 802

More here.

He’s posted 9 times thus far after registering today. You might want to contact their admin.

I did.

76 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:07:44pm

re: #41 Walter L. Newton

What a group of outstanding people.

I actually feel that the author who has done the most with the legacy of the British experience of fascism is J.K. Rowling. Go figure.

77 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:08:47pm

I’m going to watch “UP.” Even though I’m not crazy about animation, my step-critters give this to me for Xmas and someone said the lead “character” is a lot like me. I may have even been the model for the character. I’m so proud.

78 Gus  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:08:48pm

re: #75 Charles

I did.

Hope it gets cleaned up.

79 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:09:25pm

re: #76 SanFranciscoZionist

I actually feel that the author who has done the most with the legacy of the British experience of fascism is J.K. Rowling. Go figure.

Who? (I’m going to watch “UP”), I’ll check back in a couple.

80 Cheese Eating Victory Monkey  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:11:10pm
81 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:11:27pm

re: #79 Walter L. Newton

Who? (I’m going to watch “UP”), I’ll check back in a couple.

Harry Potter writer.

82 Locker  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:13:43pm

re: #77 Walter L. Newton

I’m going to watch “UP.” Even though I’m not crazy about animation, my step-critters give this to me for Xmas and someone said the lead “character” is a lot like me. I may have even been the model for the character. I’m so proud.

Wel I always thought of you as one of the guys in the balcony on The Muppet Show but yea, the Up guy may do as well. Although your head is not nearly square enough.

83 Gus  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:16:02pm

re: #75 Charles

I did.

Just contacted them as well regarding said “Blazer.”

84 John Neverbend  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:20:26pm

re: #40 rurality

There are two more sisters, but can’t recall their stories.

There was just one, Pamela. According to her sister Jessica, Pamela’s childhood ambition was to be a horse. There was also a brother, Tom, who died in WWII.

85 brookly red  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:21:16pm

re: #66 Walter L. Newton

No it’s not. If the administration wants them in Ill., then fine. If it doesn’t work out (which nothing has in the Obama administration yet) then they will be responsible for the fuck up. I’ve gotten to the point that I’m almost in total agreement with the Obama administration on almost everything, because I’ve noted, give them enough rope and they fucking hang themselves with it.

Look at health care, big pharma, the insurance industry, unbinding agreement in Copenhagen, Peace Prize to a war time president, the almost total lack of respect that Obam is getting overseas, especially from the middle east players and I could go on and on…

I’m behind him almost 100 percent…

I see where you are coming from & I agree that they are in the process of hanging themselves, and I can not wait for the mid terms. But this is a matter of GPs… you remember GPs don’t you?

86 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:22:06pm

w00t! California here I come.

Just booked my ticket to LA for the end of January.

87 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:23:04pm

re: #84 John Neverbend

There was just one, Pamela. According to her sister Jessica, Pamela’s childhood ambition was to be a horse. There was also a brother, Tom, who died in WWII.

Gawd. Meanwhile, the man who was supposed to be king of England was being wined and dined by Nazi agents on the continent…

88 Stan the Demanded Plan  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:23:17pm

re: #84 John Neverbend

This is interesting stuff! I just looked up The Mitford Sisters, here’s a link (there are many more)

[Link: www.pbs.org…]

89 MandyManners  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:24:13pm

re: #84 John Neverbend

There was just one, Pamela. According to her sister Jessica, Pamela’s childhood ambition was to be a horse. There was also a brother, Tom, who died in WWII.

That family would have made for a delicious Monty Python skit or 10.

90 prairiefire  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:24:33pm

re: #40 rurality

The Mitford sisters covered the gamut of politics in their day. Jessica became a communist, lived in America, wrote The American Way of Death. Diana married Mosley. Unity was a serious Hitler groupie, some claim lover and committed suicide. Debo became the Duchess of Devonshire. Nancy wrote Love in a Cold Climate. There are two more sisters, but can’t recall their stories.

I got “The Mitfords” edited by daughter in law Charlotte Mosley for Christmas. It’s a collection of their letters to each other through the years. Pamela and Jessica are the other two sisters. Jessica was active in the Communist Party in England.

91 John Neverbend  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:25:10pm

re: #87 SanFranciscoZionist

Gawd. Meanwhile, the man who was supposed to be king of England was being wined and dined by Nazi agents on the continent…

Fortunately, he abdicated.

On a different note, could you explain in more detail the J.K. Rowling comment. I’m intrigued.

92 prairiefire  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:28:18pm

re: #89 MandyManners

Yes, upper class eccentrics.

93 prairiefire  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:28:40pm

re: #91 John Neverbend

Go for it, SFZ!

94 John Neverbend  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:29:20pm

re: #88 Stanley Sea

This is interesting stuff! I just looked up The Mitford Sisters, here’s a link (there are many more)

[Link: www.pbs.org…]

I recall that when Jessica met up with Esmond Romilly in Spain, a reporter came to interview them. Romilly told him that if he didn’t leave them alone, he would punch him in the nose. This became translated by the reporter into a statement by Romilly that, “I am with the woman I love.”

Another amusing story is that the father, Lord Redesdale rarely visited the House of Lords, except to vote against a motion admitting women. The daughters speculated that the House only had one bathroom, and that Redesdale didn’t want women using it.

95 Locker  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:32:05pm

Politifact rebukes Cheney lie

Cheney has offered lots of criticism of Obama in the past year (of the claims we’ve rated, Cheney has earned a True and a Mostly True). His remarks here go beyond opinion because he repeatedly says that Obama won’t acknowledge that the United States is at war. But even a cursory examination of Obama’s statements shows this one is preposterous. Obama has often said the United States is at war against terrorist organizations — and has ordered a massive increase in U.S. troops in Afghanistan to fight that war. So Cheney’s comment isn’t just False, it’s ridiculously so. Pants on Fire!

96 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:33:46pm

re: #91 John Neverbend

Fortunately, he abdicated.

On a different note, could you explain in more detail the J.K. Rowling comment. I’m intrigued.

Voldemort’s belief system is fairly obviously parallel to Hitler’s in many ways. Not uncommon in modern fantasy/sci-fi—it’s an easily accessible model for Western writers. What I find very interesting in Rowling’s work is that she shows the way the traditional prejudices of wizarding society playing into Voldemort’s schema—bigotry against non-human magical races being a prime example.

Voldemort’s surviving supporters are largely within the affluent, ‘pure-blooded’ circles of wizarding society. The Malfoys are an obvious example, and then there’s Sirius Black’s family, which I think may actually be intended to be parallel to the Mitfords in some ways—their support for Voldemort which officially crumbles once the war starts, the sisters who attach to the movement, the sibling who dies in the war…

I think it’s most evident in “The Order of the Phoenix” and “The Half-Blood Prince”.

97 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:35:17pm

re: #67 Charles

Well, it took them about a day, but the stalkers are now showing up in the comments at Bloggingheads.tv.

Just posted there:

I am on the edge of my chair awaiting a link to where it was you said you promote the teaching of “fisting”.

I simply recall no such statement being made, ever.

98 John Neverbend  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:35:29pm

re: #88 Stanley Sea

This is interesting stuff! I just looked up The Mitford Sisters, here’s a link (there are many more)

When it comes to sisters who were famous writers, the Brontë sisters were far better behaved.

99 MandyManners  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:36:59pm

re: #92 prairiefire

Yes, upper class eccentrics.

And, such a wide-ranging group at that!

100 John Neverbend  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:37:13pm

re: #97 reine.de.tout

I am on the edge of my chair awaiting a link to where it was you said you promote the teaching of “fisting”.

I simply recall no such statement being made, ever.

I’ve tried playing the video backwards and upside down, but I can’t find it either.

101 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:37:15pm

re: #98 John Neverbend

When it comes to sisters who were famous writers, the Brontë sisters were far better behaved.

Their brother, OTOH, was a schmuck.

102 prairiefire  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:37:49pm

re: #96 SanFranciscoZionist

What about the security measures taken, and the, is it, Ministry of Wizards?

103 John Neverbend  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:38:12pm

re: #99 MandyManners

And, such a wide-ranging group at that!

My favourite was Debo. Her ambition was to marry a Duke, and she did.

104 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:39:29pm

re: #102 prairiefire

What about the security measures taken, and the, is it, Ministry of Wizards?

Elaborate?

105 MandyManners  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:40:00pm

re: #98 John Neverbend

When it comes to sisters who were famous writers, the Brontë sisters were far better behaved.

Who said that well behaved women seldom make history?

106 MandyManners  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:40:49pm

re: #103 John Neverbend

My favourite was Debo. Her ambition was to marry a Duke, and she did.

I take it that Pamela didn’t become a horse.

107 John Neverbend  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:41:02pm

re: #101 SanFranciscoZionist

Their brother, OTOH, was a schmuck.

According to Wikipedia, Bramwell’s alleged affair with one Lydia Robinson was mirrored in “The Graduate”. Not many people know that.

108 Lidane  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:41:21pm

re: #96 SanFranciscoZionist

Personally, I thought the Ministry of Magic’s attempts all through The Order of the Phoenix to control information about Voldemort’s return showed more of the fascistic streak of the magical world. The entire plot of the book centers on how determined they were to keep the population ignorant of the very real danger they were in by any means necessary. Professor Umbridge in particular goes out of her way to stifle Harry, up to and including torture to keep him from talking.

The Death Eaters and Voldemort are obvious Nazi stand-ins, but the real fascism comes from the government of the magical world, IMO.

109 prairiefire  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:41:45pm

re: #98 John Neverbend

Yes, but the passion beneath the surface. Heathcliff and Rochester!

110 John Neverbend  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:42:10pm

re: #106 MandyManners

I take it that Pamela didn’t become a horse.


Not as far as I know. More evidence for ID/Creationism, I suspect. After all, why can’t a human evolve into a horse?!?!

111 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:42:33pm

re: #97 reine.de.tout

I am on the edge of my chair awaiting a link to where it was you said you promote the teaching of “fisting”.

I simply recall no such statement being made, ever.

I didn’t, of course. And neither did Kevin Jennings, despite the lies being circulated about him by Jim Hoft.

112 harry91  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:44:16pm

re: #2 webevintage

But Matt Smith looked awesome. Can’t wait for the Moffet Era.

113 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:45:07pm

re: #110 John Neverbend

Not as far as I know. More evidence for ID/Creationism, I suspect. After all, why can’t a human evolve into a horse?!?!

I’ve realized that for many of the anti-evolution crowd, evolution is seen as a sort of free-form shapeshifting, which may occur in the same organism a number of times in immediate response to changing stimuli. I’d say ‘no wonder they don’t believe in it’, except that the same people seem to think it acceptable to state that prayer can cause limbs to regrow.

114 MandyManners  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:45:19pm

re: #107 John Neverbend

According to Wikipedia, Bramwell’s alleged affair with one Lydia Robinson was mirrored in “The Graduate”. Not many people know that.

Wow.


115 prairiefire  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:45:25pm

re: #104 SanFranciscoZionist

In Half Blood Prince, the force field around Hogwarts. The Weasley’s paranoia/caution. The official Wizard Government response to Voldermort. It struck me that her writing was affected by the US’s response to 9-11.
Granted the threats to Harry and the threats to us are real.

116 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:46:04pm

re: #108 Lidane

Personally, I thought the Ministry of Magic’s attempts all through The Order of the Phoenix to control information about Voldemort’s return showed more of the fascistic streak of the magical world. The entire plot of the book centers on how determined they were to keep the population ignorant of the very real danger they were in by any means necessary. Professor Umbridge in particular goes out of her way to stifle Harry, up to and including torture to keep him from talking.

The Death Eaters and Voldemort are obvious Nazi stand-ins, but the real fascism comes from the government of the magical world, IMO.

I think you’re right. It’s a very politically nuanced world, is Rowling’s, under the wish-fulfillment and the wackily named spells. I enjoy that.

117 MandyManners  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:47:03pm

re: #110 John Neverbend

Not as far as I know. More evidence for ID/Creationism, I suspect. After all, why can’t a human evolve into a horse?!?!

New exhibit at the ID museum?

118 ryannon  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:47:31pm

re: #9 Bagua

Sunday Afternoon Open Thread

Mishima (Opening)

- Philip Glass


I’ll see your Philip Glass and raise you with a Steve Reich excerpt:

119 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:47:43pm

Starfish are the chosen species!

120 John Neverbend  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:48:23pm

re: #117 MandyManners

New exhibit at the ID museum?

Already there, probably. In fact, Rowling’s to blame with her use of centaurs.

121 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:49:14pm

re: #119 SanFranciscoZionist

Starfish are the chosen species!

I thought they didn’t have brains?

122 John Neverbend  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:50:07pm

re: #105 MandyManners

Who said that well behaved women seldom make history?


I had to look it up.

123 brookly red  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:50:07pm

re: #119 SanFranciscoZionist

Starfish are the chosen species!

re: #119 SanFranciscoZionist

Starfish are the chosen species!

perhaps… even breaded & deep fried they are not edible. Helluva defense mechanism.

124 windsagio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:50:35pm

re: #116 SanFranciscoZionist

I think its just so broadly written, and so rife with fantasy/scifi stereotypes that you can read anything into it.


/:p

125 brookly red  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:50:47pm

re: #121 Cannadian Club Akbar

I thought they didn’t have brains?

/like that is a handicap…

126 MandyManners  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:51:15pm

re: #121 Cannadian Club Akbar

I thought they didn’t have brains?

Patrick’s gonna’ kick your ass.

127 harry91  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:51:23pm

re: #12 Charles


That and pretty well anything by the Coen Brothers.

That’s said Walter and the “keeping the Sabbath” scene always floors me.

Some great quotes:

[Link: www.imdb.com…]

128 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:51:31pm

re: #125 brookly red

/like that is a handicap…

Hasn’t stopped me, yet.
/

129 MandyManners  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:51:32pm

re: #122 John Neverbend

I had to look it up.

I can’t find the author.

130 windsagio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:52:07pm

re: #123 brookly red

you’ve tried?

Also, they will totally regenerate if even a little bit of their core is connected to the piece in question. Fishermen used to cut them up and throw them back as a way to get rid of them… bad idea.

131 John Neverbend  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:53:33pm

re: #129 MandyManners

I can’t find the author.

Laurel Thatcher Ulrich.

132 brookly red  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:53:57pm

re: #128 Cannadian Club Akbar

Hasn’t stopped me, yet.
/

/ooooh that reminds me, I need to send that check to you re-election campaign… :)

133 SteveC  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:56:55pm

Arrrgh! No one touch me! I’ve been to Twitter - stupid people saying stupid things, I may have gotten some on me.

*Drops clothes in burn bag and runs into showers*

134 John Neverbend  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:57:48pm

re: #118 ryannon

I’ll see your Philip Glass and raise you with a Steve Reich excerpt:

[Video]


Moving sideways a little, here’s some Michael Nyman.

135 Jeff In Ohio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 2:58:04pm

re: #23 tradewind

Subtext hell… where’s the context?

Um, The Big Lebowski. Thanks for playing, we have some lovely parting gifts for you.

136 Jeff In Ohio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:00:08pm

Other important news from the day, Brit Hume gives Tiger Woods some advise:

“The extent to which he can recover seems to me depends on his faith. He is said to be a Buddhist. I don’t think that faith offers the kind of forgiveness and redemption that is offered by the Christian faith. So, my message to Tiger is, ‘Tiger, turn to the Christian faith and you can make a total recovery and be a great example to the world.”

137 MandyManners  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:00:35pm

re: #131 John Neverbend

Laurel Thatcher Ulrich.

Thanks!

138 MandyManners  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:02:00pm

re: #131 John Neverbend

Laurel Thatcher Ulrich.

A feminist Mormon. Huh.

139 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:02:10pm

re: #121 Cannadian Club Akbar

I thought they didn’t have brains?

Someone said on FSTDT that through prayer we might recover the ability to regenerate limbs. One of the commenters asked if this meant that starfish were the chosen people. I am running with this idea. I sort of like it. Starfish are peaceful, and very attractive.

140 oldegeezr  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:02:47pm

This may be more fun than you’ve had all weekend?

A character with the handle of “harry” [Truman?]; takes the air heads over at HA for a ride on the positive provisions of health care in Hawaii.

Oh and this one.
Come on, everyone knew this right?
[Link: www.nytimes.com…]
Because of these reforms:
Hawaii’s health insurance premiums are nearly tied with North Dakota for the lowest in the country, and Medicare costs per beneficiary are the nation’s lowest.
So, he said [Rush], the emergency room in Hawaii is not clogged with patients suffering minor problems like medication adjustments and cold symptoms, and patient waiting times are a small fraction of those in Los Angeles
Rush got treated in a socialist system, it not indicative of any of state.
harry on January 2, 2010 at 7:56 PM


Having more fun than a lizard should have…!

141 brookly red  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:03:11pm

re: #139 SanFranciscoZionist

Someone said on FSTDT that through prayer we might recover the ability to regenerate limbs. One of the commenters asked if this meant that starfish were the chosen people. I am running with this idea. I sort of like it. Starfish are peaceful, and very attractive.

they are peaceful unless you happen to be a clam…

142 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:03:47pm

re: #139 SanFranciscoZionist

Sorry, I saw that but didn’t put 2 and 2 together. I worked with an old skool mechanic who used to call a young mechanic a starfish. That’s why I asked.:)

143 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:04:30pm

re: #136 Jeff In Ohio

Other important news from the day, Brit Hume gives Tiger Woods some advise:

“The extent to which he can recover seems to me depends on his faith. He is said to be a Buddhist. I don’t think that faith offers the kind of forgiveness and redemption that is offered by the Christian faith. So, my message to Tiger is, ‘Tiger, turn to the Christian faith and you can make a total recovery and be a great example to the world.”

Feh. Just feh.

144 SteveC  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:05:34pm

OK, that’s better!

And I like these skivvies I was able to buy at the LGF gift shop!

145 windsagio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:05:50pm
146 Jeff In Ohio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:06:02pm

re: #143 SanFranciscoZionist

Feh. Just feh.

Look on the karmic side, Brits coming back as a clam.

147 John Neverbend  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:06:34pm

re: #139 SanFranciscoZionist

Someone said on FSTDT that through prayer we might recover the ability to regenerate limbs. One of the commenters asked if this meant that starfish were the chosen people. I am running with this idea. I sort of like it. Starfish are peaceful, and very attractive.

If you extend the concept of “limb” to mean the whole body, you can include annelida in the “chosen people”. Go with the worms!

148 brookly red  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:13:46pm

re: #146 Jeff In Ohio

Look on the karmic side, Brits coming back as a clam.

I will not make the ban-able joke, I will not make the ban-able joke, I will not make the ban-able joke, …

149 SteveC  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:16:46pm

re: #148 brookly red

I will not make the ban-able joke, I will not make the ban-able joke, I will not make the ban-able joke, …

The Force is strong in this one, Master Yoda!

150 albusteve  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:21:47pm

Cowboys shutting out the Eagles….yowza!
24-zip

151 SteveC  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:24:01pm

12 to 24% of FSU student athletes are Learning Disabled

For athletes, the practical result of an “LD” designation can include more time to complete the 16 high school courses required by the National Collegiate Athletic Association before they can play sports in college, less arduous courses, extra time on college entrance exams, and possibly a waiver to play freshman college sports before crossing the 16 high school hurdles. Once in college, an LD designation can also mean recorded reading material, note-takers, and extra time for college testing and assignments.

152 MandyManners  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:26:16pm

The Kid’s back in school tomorrow so I’m double checking to make sure everything’s ready for his return to the glorious halls of knowledge, a/k/a my break from his Christmas break.

Yippee!

153 iceweasel  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:26:43pm

re: #136 Jeff In Ohio

Other important news from the day, Brit Hume gives Tiger Woods some advise:

“The extent to which he can recover seems to me depends on his faith. He is said to be a Buddhist. I don’t think that faith offers the kind of forgiveness and redemption that is offered by the Christian faith. So, my message to Tiger is, ‘Tiger, turn to the Christian faith and you can make a total recovery and be a great example to the world.”

Great. That’s nice.

“Though I am a committed Christian, I believe that everyone has the right to their own religion, be you Hindu, Jewish or Muslim. I believe there are infinite paths to accepting Jesus Christ as your personal savior.”

h/t colbert

154 MandyManners  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:27:43pm

re: #151 SteveC

12 to 24% of FSU student athletes are Learning Disabled

About 2%-5% of college undergraduates have a learning disability, according to the U.S. Education Department.

155 MandyManners  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:28:15pm

re: #151 SteveC

12 to 24% of FSU student athletes are Learning Disabled

ADHD isn’t qualified as a learning disability is it?

156 Kronocide  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:30:44pm

There once was a fundie,
who put a bomb in his undie….

157 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:31:19pm

re: #139 SanFranciscoZionist

Someone said on FSTDT that through prayer we might recover the ability to regenerate limbs. One of the commenters asked if this meant that starfish were the chosen people. I am running with this idea. I sort of like it. Starfish are peaceful, and very attractive.

They even have a species called the Crown of Thorns too…

158 windsagio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:31:50pm

re: #155 MandyManners

It is, or was! Back in the dark ages, my mother used it as an excuse to attend classes with me as a ‘note taker’.

That was a dark time

159 ryannon  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:32:42pm

re: #134 John Neverbend

I wish I could disassociate that music from Peter Greenaway.

Which of course leads us to Wim Meertens:

Struggle for Pleasure:

Close Cover:

160 Jeff In Ohio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:32:47pm

re: #152 MandyManners

The Kid’s back in school tomorrow so I’m double checking to make sure everything’s ready for his return to the glorious halls of knowledge, a/k/a my break from his Christmas break.

Yippee!

Yes, glorious expectations of coffee alone. My eldest is packing up her backpack, gathering up her projects and already complaining about whatever tweeners are always complaining about, I can’t keep up. I had the double whammy of kids on vacation and wife taking 10 vacation days. I keep asking when my vacation is…13 more years!

161 brookly red  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:32:50pm

re: #154 MandyManners

About 2%-5% of college undergraduates have a learning disability, according to the U.S. Education Department.

so how exactly did they get into college? Oh wait you said learning disability, I thought you said earning disability… my bad.

162 brookly red  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:33:43pm

re: #156 BigPapa

There once was a fundie,
who put a bomb in his undie…

and met a young student from Cork?

163 SteveC  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:33:53pm

re: #155 MandyManners

ADHD isn’t qualified as a learning disability is it?

I have no idea, Mandy. But the way the article presents this information, it almost seems that some college sports programs (GASP!) bend the rules.

/// Who would do such a thing?!?!?!

164 HoosierHoops  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:36:14pm

re: #153 iceweasel

Great. That’s nice.

“Though I am a committed Christian, I believe that everyone has the right to their own religion, be you Hindu, Jewish or Muslim. I believe there are infinite paths to accepting Jesus Christ as your personal savior.”

h/t colbert

Once you go past 14 mistresses..Nobody is buying the Bullshit anymore..
You need at that point to get the Jesus cell phone number and roll over minutes…Nobody is buying it..

165 ryannon  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:37:24pm

re: #153 iceweasel

Great. That’s nice.

“Though I am a committed Christian, I believe that everyone has the right to their own religion, be you Hindu, Jewish or Muslim. I believe there are infinite paths to accepting Jesus Christ as your personal savior.”

h/t colbert

The nice thing about Buddhism is that it doesn’t give a Hail Mary about such things. There’s no forgiveness and no one to forgive you.

166 brookly red  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:39:43pm

re: #164 HoosierHoops

Once you go past 14 mistresses..Nobody is buying the Bullshit anymore..
You need at that point to get the Jesus cell phone number and roll over minutes…Nobody is buying it..

whatever. win some games, make some money all is good…
& by the way 1 is a mistress, after that their is another title.

167 iceweasel  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:40:19pm

re: #164 HoosierHoops

Once you go past 14 mistresses..Nobody is buying the Bullshit anymore..
You need at that point to get the Jesus cell phone number and roll over minutes…Nobody is buying it..

Tiger’s got 99 problems all right, but being a Buddhist ain’t one.

168 brookly red  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:41:17pm

re: #167 iceweasel

Tiger’s got 99 problems all right, but being a Buddhist ain’t one.

maybe he should just run for office?

169 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:42:46pm

re: #168 brookly red

maybe he should just run for office?

Not in this life.

170 Cineaste  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:43:20pm

re: #167 iceweasel

Tiger’s got 99 problems all right, but being a Buddhist ain’t one.

bounce on the devil ‘put the pedal to the floor Tiger…

171 iceweasel  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:43:25pm

re: #168 brookly red

maybe he should just run for office?

Why not? C Street probably would give him a room.

172 The Sanity Inspector  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:43:48pm

Those homophobia posts must be tripping google ads’ algorithms. I’m looking at a banner ad for lesbian romance.

173 Cineaste  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:43:48pm

re: #168 brookly red

maybe he should just run for office?

I smell talk show!

174 brookly red  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:43:48pm

re: #169 Decatur Deb

Not in this life.

bet he dose…

175 MandyManners  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:45:41pm

re: #158 windsagio

It is, or was! Back in the dark ages, my mother used it as an excuse to attend classes with me as a ‘note taker’.

That was a dark time


Well, bless her heart!

176 brookly red  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:46:12pm

… and Senator Woods would you consider Afghanistan a sand trap or just a rough patch?

177 MandyManners  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:46:28pm

re: #160 Jeff In Ohio

Yes, glorious expectations of coffee alone. My eldest is packing up her backpack, gathering up her projects and already complaining about whatever tweeners are always complaining about, I can’t keep up. I had the double whammy of kids on vacation and wife taking 10 vacation days. I keep asking when my vacation is…13 more years!

Stop trying to keep up!

178 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:46:45pm

re: #82 Locker

Wel I always thought of you as one of the guys in the balcony on The Muppet Show but yea, the Up guy may do as well. Although your head is not nearly square enough.

Fuck off.

179 MandyManners  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:46:57pm

re: #161 brookly red

so how exactly did they get into college? Oh wait you said learning disability, I thought you said earning disability… my bad.

Well, at least they are getting a college education.

180 brookly red  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:47:58pm

re: #179 MandyManners

Well, at least they are getting a college education.

/the doctor will see you now…

181 iceweasel  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:48:18pm

re: #176 brookly red

… and Senator Woods would you consider Afghanistan a sand trap or just a rough patch?

You win the thread!

182 MandyManners  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:48:22pm

re: #163 SteveC

I have no idea, Mandy. But the way the article presents this information, it almost seems that some college sports programs (GASP!) bend the rules.

/// Who would do such a thing?!?!?!

A private school in the area lost their right to compete in tournaments for a year because they were paying the tuition of many players.

183 MandyManners  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:49:20pm

re: #178 Walter L. Newton

Fuck off.

Don’t mince words, do ya’?!

184 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:49:27pm

re: #178 Walter L. Newton

Fuck off.

Wow… that down ding from Windsagio is gonna leave a mark… whew…

185 MandyManners  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:49:58pm

bbiab

186 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:50:17pm

re: #183 MandyManners

Don’t mince words, do ya’?!

Naw!

187 SteveC  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:50:19pm

re: #182 MandyManners

A private school in the area lost their right to compete in tournaments for a year because they were paying the tuition of many players.


Whoops!

188 rurality  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:51:19pm

re: #84 John Neverbend

Despite my marginal recall, I do remember enjoying the book about the Mitfords, called The Sisters, The Saga of the Mitford Family by Mary S. Lovell, copyright 2001. They are quite a Zeligesque family, always near the hub of some historical event or major player. And Love in a Cold Climate is pretty hilarious, especially if you like tales of fading eccentric English gentry.

189 windsagio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:53:11pm

re: #184 Walter L. Newton

Oops, I’m sorry :(


I forgot that established “Personalities” are entitled to nonsubstantively curse people.

190 iceweasel  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:53:39pm

re: #182 MandyManners

A private school in the area lost their right to compete in tournaments for a year because they were paying the tuition of many players.

That changes in college, though, doesn’t it? Because of all the money they’ll pour into sports (taking it away from research generally) because sports is such an alumni fundraiser for them.

College athletes do get a lot of breaks, extra tutoring, special exam schedules, passes on missing classes for travel— but they also need that help because they’re on such punishing schedules for practices and games. The university emphasises their sports rather than their academic involvement in the community. IMO to the detriment of both the athletes themselves and the university.

191 HoosierHoops  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:54:21pm

re: #167 iceweasel

Tiger’s got 99 problems all right, but being a Buddhist ain’t one.

You know..I hate judging people…My real issue with Tiger isn’t how many girls he bags on his off-night…I don’t care if he is a Buddhist or Baptist, if he prays with his kids at night….I don’t even judge his Lies to his wife..It’s not my issue..
My problem is his long term association With MJ and Barkley for years in Vegas..The 3 amigo Vegas guys that think they are such studs..So rich..Can do anything they want anytime to anyone.. Always girls at beckon call with the entourage.. How the mighty have fallen..
But that’s not it..When he finally got busted by his wife.. He acted and continues to act like a punk.. Walk on your porch stud.. *Anybody got any questions for the last 5 years?* Own it Tiger.. You are a Cad..Hell everybody loved Babe Ruth…(Although you beat his Mistresses by double digits ) You lost Respect by hiding in your house…
You lost me Tiger forever..You big rich stud you…

192 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:54:24pm

re: #189 windsagio

Oops, I’m sorry :(

I forgot that established “Personalities” are entitled to nonsubstantively curse people.

You don’t have to remember or forget jack.

193 windsagio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:54:41pm

re: #190 iceweasel

but… but the sports generate revenue! At least the ones that count!

194 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:55:46pm

re: #191 HoosierHoops

Could someone tell me why Tiger matters at all, good, bad or indifferent? Why does ANYONE care one bit, one ounce, why does anyone give this story another second of concern.

195 im_gumby_damnit  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:55:49pm

Big Lebowski. One of the funniest movies of all time. A classic.

196 oldegeezr  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:56:04pm

“harry” begins his assault on the “air heads” at HA at precisely …1900!

Thank God Hawaii already instituted many of the reforms that are included in the health care reform bill before Congress.
Or we’d have no more Rush!!!!!!
harry on January 2, 2010 at 7:00 PM

It’s poetic, musical, defined, resolved and devastating to the “regulars”…!

Gotta luv yah “harry”…!
When will “Fast Eddy’s ban hammer fall…?

197 brookly red  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:56:42pm

re: #193 windsagio

but… but the sports generate revenue! At least the ones that count!

re: #193 windsagio

but… but the sports generate revenue! At least the ones that count!

/and I do believe that we need to discuss a certain pony that you were fond of…

198 windsagio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:57:23pm

re: #194 Walter L. Newton

Well, you know. He’s a celebrity. Why did we have to care about Paris Hilton?

… and yet, strangely the country sure did!

199 brookly red  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:58:27pm

re: #194 Walter L. Newton

Could someone tell me why Tiger matters at all, good, bad or indifferent? Why does ANYONE care one bit, one ounce, why does anyone give this story another second of concern.

/just wait till he is YOUR Senator…

200 windsagio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:59:14pm

re: #197 brookly red

you might enjoy the Tank McNamera series that starts on the day linked, going for about a week. Its pretty awesome.

201 Taqyia2Me  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:59:41pm

re: #199 brookly red

/just wait till he is YOUR Senator…

Will he have to change his name to:
Senator John Blutarsky?

202 MandyManners  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:59:54pm

re: #194 Walter L. Newton

Could someone tell me why Tiger matters at all, good, bad or indifferent? Why does ANYONE care one bit, one ounce, why does anyone give this story another second of concern.

Money. Sex. Glamour.

203 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:01:21pm

re: #202 MandyManners

Money. Sex. Glamour.

Outrage. Violence. Vendetta.

204 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:01:26pm

re: #198 windsagio

Well, you know. He’s a celebrity. Why did we have to care about Paris Hilton?

… and yet, strangely the country sure did!

Really, I don’t care how many woman Tiger has fucked. I don’t care if he cost his sponsor millions of dollars, I don’t care if he disappointed his fans… shit happens… and if Paris Hilton wants to screw and video tape it… fine… it’s her career… they both are responsible for their own shit… too bad, so sad.

205 brookly red  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:01:50pm

re: #201 Taqyia2Me

Will he have to change his name to:
Senator John Blutarsky?

no, just kiss a few babies… oh and maybe say something about ethics & fighting corruption… the usual BS.

206 windsagio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:01:52pm

re: #204 Walter L. Newton

Friend, you’re not in the mainstream.

207 windsagio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:02:18pm

re: #205 brookly red

Time to turn out those inside-the-beltway FatCats!

208 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:02:33pm

re: #202 MandyManners

Money. Sex. Glamour.

It’s not my money, I didn’t get any of the sex and I don’t care if Tiger has all the glamour of a turd in a gutter. It’s his own life, if he fucked it up, he fucked it up, I don’t care a whit.

209 iceweasel  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:02:57pm

re: #188 rurality

Despite my marginal recall, I do remember enjoying the book about the Mitfords, called The Sisters, The Saga of the Mitford Family by Mary S. Lovell, copyright 2001. They are quite a Zeligesque family, always near the hub of some historical event or major player. And Love in a Cold Climate is pretty hilarious, especially if you like tales of fading eccentric English gentry.

The mitfords are fascinating. In addition to unity, there’s also Dianna, who married Oswald Mosley, founder of the BUP (if I remember correctly)

Unity’s story is even worse than committing suicide when England declared war. She shot herself but it didn’t kill her right away.

I always wondered what possessed her parents to name her Unity Valkyrie, though.

210 freetoken  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:02:59pm

Whoa…. earthquake…

211 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:03:45pm

re: #206 windsagio

Friend, you’re not in the mainstream.

You noticed, thank you… you kind. I mean that.

212 brookly red  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:03:53pm

re: #210 freetoken

Whoa… earthquake…

/was it good for you?

213 prairiefire  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:04:29pm

re: #188 rurality

I love tales of English gentry of all kinds. The PBS production of “Love In a Cold Climate” about 10 years ago was sublime.

214 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:04:39pm

re: #212 brookly red

Fast, today Brooklyn.

215 windsagio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:04:39pm

re: #209 iceweasel

I suspect that lots and lots of Laudanum was involved.

216 MandyManners  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:05:19pm

re: #203 Decatur Deb

Outrage. Violence. Vendetta.

LifetTime TV movie!

217 freetoken  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:05:21pm

re: #212 brookly red

It wasn’t bad…

I was about to put up an entry about a bigger quake in the Solomons:

[Link: news.yahoo.com…]

218 windsagio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:05:44pm

re: #211 Walter L. Newton

damn you didn’t fall for it >> I so wanted to reply with

I’m not your buddy, friend!

I guess the actual point I”m trying to get at is that railing against people caring about it isn’t that far from caring alot about it. If you don’t care, ignore it and go on with your life.

219 John Neverbend  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:06:28pm

re: #159 ryannon

I wish I could disassociate that music from Peter Greenaway.

It was one of the better features of a highly pretentious movie.

220 brookly red  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:06:35pm

re: #217 freetoken

It wasn’t bad…

I was about to put up an entry about a bigger quake in the Solomons:

[Link: news.yahoo.com…]

just hush… here have a cigarette…

221 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:06:37pm

re: #216 MandyManners

Could be a tragedy, if we could just find a fatal flaw.

222 windsagio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:06:38pm

re: #218 windsagio

what I”m referring to:

223 HoosierHoops  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:06:40pm

re: #194 Walter L. Newton

Could someone tell me why Tiger matters at all, good, bad or indifferent? Why does ANYONE care one bit, one ounce, why does anyone give this story another second of concern.

I can.. Tiger was considered of the Greatest Athletic Icon of our generation..
Handsome.. Smart (Stanford) Gave millions for schools and Charity…Married to am absolutely Stunning woman with 2 lovely children.. The best golfer in the world falls from grace.. It’s a big story to Billions of people My friend..
Look Tiger told a bunch of old people to run out and buy Buicks a few years ago..And they did! Every time you pass a Buick look who is driving..It always an old person..*wink*

224 MandyManners  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:06:57pm

re: #208 Walter L. Newton

It’s not my money, I didn’t get any of the sex and I don’t care if Tiger has all the glamour of a turd in a gutter. It’s his own life, if he fucked it up, he fucked it up, I don’t care a whit.

Turds have glamour? Wow. I guess the hamster is one glamourous mamal.

Speaking of which, I gotta’ go clean his cage. bbl

225 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:07:18pm

re: #218 windsagio

damn you didn’t fall for it >> I so wanted to reply with

I guess the actual point I”m trying to get at is that railing against people caring about it isn’t that far from caring alot about it. If you don’t care, ignore it and go on with your life.

Oh come on… are you feeling left out… did you want a little “fuck you” too :) Really, I like you… most of the time.

226 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:08:04pm

re: #223 HoosierHoops

I can.. Tiger was considered of the Greatest Athletic Icon of our generation..
Handsome.. Smart (Stanford) Gave millions for schools and Charity…Married to am absolutely Stunning woman with 2 lovely children.. The best golfer in the world falls from grace.. It’s a big story to Billions of people My friend..
Look Tiger told a bunch of old people to run out and buy Buicks a few years ago..And they did! Every time you pass a Buick look who is driving..It always an old person..*wink*

Isn’t worth a hill of beans now, is he?

227 HelloDare  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:08:45pm

re: #213 prairiefire

I love tales of English gentry of all kinds. The PBS production of “Love In a Cold Climate” about 10 years ago was sublime.

Read any P. G. Wodehouse? His plays and movies don’t capture the inner dialog or narrative. That’s the best part of his writing.

228 windsagio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:08:49pm

re: #225 Walter L. Newton

I just wanted to put the clip up >>

I think I - all the ‘Fuck you’ posts. I certainly do Mandy’s ;)

229 iceweasel  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:08:51pm

re: #215 windsagio

I suspect that lots and lots of Laudanum was involved.

No, just a love of fascism, and Hitler:

In 1938 when Hitler announced the Anschluss she appeared on the balcony in Vienna with him and she was later arrested in Prague for distributing Nazi propaganda. Pryce Jones reports that, “She saw him, it seemed, more than a hundred times, no other English person could have anything like that access to Hitler”, and the suspicions of the British SIS were aroused. MI5 head Guy Liddel wrote in his diary:
“ Unity Mitford had been in close and intimate contact with the fuehrer and his supporters for several years, and was an ardent and open supporter of the Nazi regime. She had remained behind after the outbreak of war and her action had come perilously close to high treason.[1] ”

A 1936 report went even further by proclaiming her “more Nazi than the Nazis” and stated that she gave the Hitler salute to the British Consul General in Munich, who immediately requested that her passport be impounded. Worst of all when, in 1938, Hitler found an apartment in Munich for her[2] by planning to dispossess a Jewish couple, Mitford is reported to have callously visited the apartment to discuss her decoration plans while the soon-to-be-dispossessed couple still sat in the kitchen crying over their imminent fate.


snip

Mitford summered at the Berghof where she continued to discuss a possible German-British alliance with Hitler, going so far as to supply lists of potential supporters and enemies.

Her dreams of an alliance began to crumble however and at the 1939 Bayreuth Festival Hitler warned Unity and Diana that war with England was now inevitable and that they should return home. Diana returned to England where she was arrested and imprisoned while Unity chose to remain in Germany. After Britain’s declaration of war on Germany on 3 September 1939, Unity was distraught. Diana told an interviewer in 1999:
“ She told me that if there was a war, which of course we all terribly hoped there might not be, that she would kill herself because she couldn’t bear to live and see these two countries tearing each other to pieces, both of which she loved.[1] ”

Unity went to the English Garden in Munich, where she took a pearl-handled pistol, allegedly given to her by Hitler for protection, and shot herself in the head.

Much, more more toxic than laudanum.

230 freetoken  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:09:10pm

It was a local one, down just south of TJ:

[Link: earthquake.usgs.gov…]

California - we are definitely on the move…

231 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:09:38pm

re: #226 Walter L. Newton

Isn’t worth a hill of beans now, is he?

He’ll be a legend, maybe two.

232 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:09:53pm

re: #230 freetoken

It was a local one, down just south of TJ:

[Link: earthquake.usgs.gov…]

California - we are definitely on the move…

It’s Bush’s fault.

233 windsagio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:10:14pm

re: #229 iceweasel

I meant her name, and the whole family’s general insanity! That particular model had her own issues, I agree >

234 brookly red  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:10:24pm

re: #230 freetoken

It was a local one, down just south of TJ:

[Link: earthquake.usgs.gov…]

California - we are definitely on the move…

serious: anyone hurt?

235 brookly red  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:11:18pm

re: #232 Walter L. Newton

It’s Bush’s fault.

I thought it was San Andreas fault???

236 windsagio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:11:23pm

re: #231 Decatur Deb

I think’ he’ll actually recover from this, altho it might take a few years.

237 iceweasel  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:11:51pm

re: #233 windsagio

I meant her name, and the whole family’s general insanity! That particular model had her own issues, I agree >

Oh i see. yes. Really all very dramatic and strange, right from the moment she was named.Creepy.

238 ryannon  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:12:52pm

re: #194 Walter L. Newton

Could someone tell me why Tiger matters at all, good, bad or indifferent? Why does ANYONE care one bit, one ounce, why does anyone give this story another second of concern.

Because deep in their heart, many people know that they would be ready to sell their soul to be him. Or Paris Hilton. Or even Dead Elvis. Such are teh ways of Teh Stupid and such have they always been.

239 HoosierHoops  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:12:57pm

re: #226 Walter L. Newton

Isn’t worth a hill of beans now, is he?

I guess, Walter, that even if you are a Billionaire super star, A Wall Street hotshot..Or just a working stiff..
All We have is our Character..Our Name..Our principles..Our very soul..

240 windsagio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:13:23pm

re: #237 iceweasel

There was something Deeply wrong with Victorian England anyways. They were creepy a million different ways.

241 The Sanity Inspector  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:14:07pm

re: #194 Walter L. Newton

Could someone tell me why Tiger matters at all, good, bad or indifferent? Why does ANYONE care one bit, one ounce, why does anyone give this story another second of concern.


Many people make their living off of him and his name’s marketability. Plus, think of all the young fans, so cruelly disillusioned with him.

242 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:14:36pm

re: #240 windsagio

There was something Deeply wrong with Victorian England anyways. They were creepy a million different ways.

Read Neal Stephensons “The Diamond Age.” Interesting take on the Vicky era.

243 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:15:16pm

re: #241 The Sanity Inspector

Many people make their living off of him and his name’s marketability. Plus, think of all the young fans, so cruelly disillusioned with him.

It’s their fault, isn’t it. Did he force them to put “faith” in him?

244 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:15:50pm

re: #238 ryannon

Because deep in their heart, many people know that they would be ready to sell their soul to be him. Or Paris Hilton. Or even Dead Elvis. Such are teh ways of Teh Stupid and such have they always been.

I would probably think about selling my soul NOT to be Paris Hilton.

245 windsagio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:15:54pm

re: #243 Walter L. Newton

It’s their fault, isn’t it. Did he force them to put “faith” in him?

Not sure you’ll get much mileage out of blaming kids for being fooled >>

246 John Neverbend  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:16:21pm

re: #209 iceweasel

I always wondered what possessed her parents to name her Unity Valkyrie, though.

Wagner fans, maybe. Just calling her “Valkyrie” sounds a lot better than “Schwertleite” or “Grimgerde” (the names of the Valkyries aren’t very euphonous).

247 freetoken  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:17:05pm

re: #234 brookly red

serious: anyone hurt?

Not up here. Down in Rosarito - who knows? As I mentioned the other day with the 5.8 down in Mexicali, the problem for the poor down in Baja is that the older buildings that are made out of masonry just don’t handle EQs like those of construction standards made up here.

248 iceweasel  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:17:25pm

re: #244 SanFranciscoZionist

I would probably think about selling my soul NOT to be Paris Hilton.

That’s one of the prerequisites though. She has none.
/

249 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:17:32pm

re: #245 windsagio

Not sure you’ll get much mileage out of blaming kids for being fooled >>

I would hope their parents will explain it to them. I’m not trying to get “credit.” What is this, a test or something.

250 The Sanity Inspector  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:18:06pm

Buddhism says, “Those who love a hundred have a hundred woes. Those who love ten have ten woes. Those who love one have one woe. Those who love none have no woe.” Christianity says, “He who does not love remains in death.” (I John 3:14) The trouble is that each speaks a different kind of truth. If you choose for one as the truer and more profound of the two, then you choose against the other, granting it only a kind of proximate validity. Thus toleration must be limited in the interests of honesty.

—Frederick Buechner, Wishful Thinking, A Theological ABC, 1973

251 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:18:59pm

re: #243 Walter L. Newton

It’s their fault, isn’t it. Did he force them to put “faith” in him?

I don’t remember him claiming anything more than a pretty good golf game. The rest is the media machine.

252 albusteve  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:19:26pm

Cowboys crushed the hated Eagles….24-0…
first back to back shutout in their 50yr history…
I saw every play

253 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:19:29pm

re: #251 Decatur Deb

I don’t remember him claiming anything more than a pretty good golf game. The rest is the media machine.

Bingo…

254 windsagio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:19:31pm

re: #244 SanFranciscoZionist

I dunno man, she’s got it pretty sweet. I admit, tho’, her celebrity ad (see below for news story) made me look at the lady quite differently.

255 ryannon  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:19:40pm

re: #240 windsagio

There was something Deeply wrong with Victorian England anyways. They were creepy a million different ways.

Sexual repression = creepiness.

256 windsagio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:20:43pm

re: #255 ryannon

also ludicrous classism.

I’m full of links today!

257 ryannon  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:20:57pm

re: #244 SanFranciscoZionist

I would probably think about selling my soul NOT to be Paris Hilton.

Either way, you lose.

Clever guy, that Lucifer.

Heh.

258 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:21:00pm

Stalkers are trying to swarm the Bloggingheads comments page today, of course, ranting away like psychos on crack.

259 John Neverbend  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:22:08pm

re: #242 Walter L. Newton

Read Neal Stephensons “The Diamond Age.” Interesting take on the Vicky era.

It looks rather good, based on the blurb on Amazon. Whatever their faults, the Victorians did produce some magnificent novelists and poets (Dickens, Tennyson, Eliot, Trollope, Thackeray, Hardy)……and on another front there was Darwin.

260 albusteve  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:22:16pm

re: #253 Walter L. Newton

Bingo…

people worship Woods in the same way you worship….Walter

261 albusteve  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:22:49pm

re: #260 albusteve

jus kidding

262 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:22:53pm

re: #260 albusteve

people worship Woods in the same way you worship…Walter

What?

263 iceweasel  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:23:09pm

re: #246 John Neverbend

Wagner fans, maybe. Just calling her “Valkyrie” sounds a lot better than “Schwertleite” or “Grimgerde” (the names of the Valkyries aren’t very euphonous).

Probably. That makes sense. I read a biography of her a long time ago when I went through a bit of a Mitford binge. I had to google to remember details though—and I didn’t realise that even in the last few years there have still been conspiracy theories about her:

Did Unity Mitford Have Hitler’s Love Child?

and this:

On 1 December 2002 following the release of declassified documents (including the diary of wartime MI5 head Guy Liddell), investigative journalist Martin Bright published an article in The Observer that claimed Home Secretary John Anderson intervened to prevent Mitford being questioned on her return from Germany and that the shooting, which “has become part of the Mitford myth”, may have been invented to excuse this.[7]

In the article Bright pointed out that press photographers and other observers that witnessed the return of Mitford, and her entourage that he claims included other known Nazi supporters, to Britain on 3 January 1940 said that, “there were no outward signs of her injury.” Liddell’s diary entry for 2 January states “We had no evidence to support the press allegations that she was in a serious state of health and it might well be that she was brought in on a stretcher in order to avoid publicity and unpleasantness to her family.” He had wanted to search her upon her return but had been prevented from doing so by the Home Secretary. On 8 January Liddell notes receiving a report from the Security Control Officers who were responsible for meeting the arrivals that states “there were no signs of a bullet wound.”

Mitford’s cousin, Lord Redesdale, replied to the accusations by saying, “I love conspiracy theories but it goes a little far to suggest Unity was faking it. But people did wonder how she was up on her feet so soon after shooting herself in the head.” Unity’s sister, Deborah, was more scathing in her rebuttal stating that the entourage that returned with Unity consisted of herself and their mother and although she doesn’t remember them being searched upon return that Unity, “could not walk, talked with difficulty and was a changed personality, like one who had had a stroke”, and that she has detailed records from Professor Cairns, neurosurgeon at the Nuffield Hospital in Oxford, on her condition, including X-rays showing the bullet.[4]

In a subsequent article for The New Statesman Bright admits “In fact, Liddell was wrong about her injuries. She had indeed shot herself and later died of an infection caused by the bullet in the brain.”[8]

The real story is so dramatic and strange you’d think there would be no need to invent more, but there you go.

264 Kronocide  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:23:47pm

re: #258 Charles

Stalkers are trying to swarm the Bloggingheads comments page today, of course, ranting away like psychos on crack.

I watched the whole thing. Conn started getting fussy at the end with the extreme/contrary take on the end… pretty stupid.

I’m sure the stalkers think ‘he won.’

265 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:24:31pm

re: #259 John Neverbend

It looks rather good, based on the blurb on Amazon. Whatever their faults, the Victorians did produce some magnificent novelists and poets (Dickens, Tennyson, Eliot, Trollope, Thackeray, Hardy)…and on another front there was Darwin.

Take the Victorian era, put it in the future, all steam punk and nanotechnology, and you have a small part of “The Diamond Age.” I have really got hooked on Stephenson this past year.

266 John Neverbend  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:25:09pm

re: #240 windsagio

There was something Deeply wrong with Victorian England anyways. They were creepy a million different ways.

And yet, the Mitfords weren’t Victorian.

267 HoosierHoops  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:25:57pm

re: #248 iceweasel

That’s one of the prerequisites though. She has none.
/

Last year I expressed disappointment with Paris..She has everything.. I mean everything..And everybody knows she is nothing more than a hollywood party girl.. Sad really.. She could be a spokeswoman, Running a huge Charity.. Dating the Dashing Prince some from exotic country…Jet setting to global Conferences…Nope..She is just a party girl that calls Lindsey Lohan on slow days..
Such a waste

268 albusteve  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:25:59pm

re: #264 BigPapa

I watched the whole thing. Conn started getting fussy at the end with the extreme/contrary take on the end… pretty stupid.

I’m sure the stalkers think ‘he won.’

I didn’t see it as competition necessarily…Conn was not that contentious and Charles made his points very nicely, and that’s all there was to it

269 windsagio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:27:46pm

re: #266 John Neverbend

Argh, the quibbler strikes!

Atho’ technically, I guess you’re right, they’re a pretty good symbol of the excesses of the era.

270 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:28:08pm

re: #267 HoosierHoops

Last year I expressed disappointment with Paris..She has everything.. I mean everything..And everybody knows she is nothing more than a hollywood party girl.. Sad really.. She could be a spokeswoman, Running a huge Charity.. Dating the Dashing Prince some from exotic country…Jet setting to global Conferences…Nope..She is just a party girl that calls Lindsey Lohan on slow days..
Such a waste

Do you really care?

271 freetoken  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:28:27pm

re: #258 Charles

Yeah, I see that a birther showed up too.

Given the number of comments generated, perhaps that will be a sign to BH management that it would be worth having you back.

272 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:29:11pm

re: #267 HoosierHoops

Last year I expressed disappointment with Paris..She has everything.. I mean everything..And everybody knows she is nothing more than a hollywood party girl.. Sad really.. She could be a spokeswoman, Running a huge Charity.. Dating the Dashing Prince some from exotic country…Jet setting to global Conferences…Nope..She is just a party girl that calls Lindsey Lohan on slow days..
Such a waste

She showed some talent at self-lampooning in “Repo”.

273 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:30:01pm

re: #269 windsagio

Argh, the quibbler strikes!

Atho’ technically, I guess you’re right, they’re a pretty good symbol of the excesses of the era.

They are a pretty good symbol of the excesses of upper class people who took on communism as sort of a continuation of their “we know what’s best for the underclass.”

274 John Neverbend  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:30:07pm

re: #213 prairiefire

I love tales of English gentry of all kinds. The PBS production of “Love In a Cold Climate” about 10 years ago was sublime.

If you haven’t already read them, you might want to read the so-called Chronicles of Barsetshire and Palliser novels of Anthony Trollope, all about Victorian gentry. They add up to 12 novels. Trollope was a Victorian gent, a rather unusual one, but a gent nevertheless. He is pictured in my avatar.

275 windsagio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:30:39pm

re: #267 HoosierHoops

What I kind of got out of it, is that she really knew exactly what she was doing. She made a ton of money and made herself much more marketable in the process.

Theres the question of course of WHY? given her already crazy wealth… but maybe she had something to prove >>

re: #272 Decatur Deb

exactly! more evidence that it was essentially an act.

276 prairiefire  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:30:44pm

re: #227 HelloDare

Yes. Hugh Laurie is a perfect Bertie Wooster in the TV show. I could use some volumes at home.
Just ordered some Kingsley Amis and Martin Amis the other night. They come delivered, straight to my door.
I am not talking about an escort service. Although, I think that would be a hit with middle aged women. “Hello, Literary Agency? I’d like one Heathcliff tonight and a Mr. Willougby on Wed., please.”

277 windsagio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:31:20pm

re: #273 Walter L. Newton

Or fascism. Thats the fun of the English upper class. They just know whats right for their lessers!

278 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:31:49pm

re: #277 windsagio

Or fascism. Thats the fun of the English upper class. They just know whats right for their lessers!

Are we agreeing, or did I imagine that?

279 irish rose  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:31:57pm

Good evening, lizards.

280 John Neverbend  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:32:46pm

re: #269 windsagio

Argh, the quibbler strikes!

Atho’ technically, I guess you’re right, they’re a pretty good symbol of the excesses of the era.

Of their own era, yes, which was post-Edwardian. I would argue that there was nothing Victorian about them at all.

281 windsagio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:33:19pm

re: #278 Walter L. Newton

Eeh things happen, it’ll go back to normal.

And lets face it, especially in the old days, the English nobility were pretty damn vile.

282 albusteve  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:33:26pm

re: #275 windsagio

What I kind of got out of it, is that she really knew exactly what she was doing. She made a ton of money and made herself much more marketable in the process.

Theres the question of course of WHY? given her already crazy wealth… but maybe she had something to prove >>

re: #272 Decatur Deb

exactly! more evidence that it was essentially an act.

I thought she got cut off from her vast family wealth for her slutty behavior….beyond that, anybody that lines her pockets is a total fool

283 windsagio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:33:43pm

re: #280 John Neverbend

I suspect you’re an expert on the subject, so I”ll bow to your superior knowledge.

284 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:33:54pm

re: #281 windsagio

Eeh things happen, it’ll go back to normal.

And lets face it, especially in the old days, the English nobility were pretty damn vile.

Quite.

285 John Neverbend  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:34:13pm

re: #276 prairiefire

I am not talking about an escort service. Although, I think that would be a hit with middle aged women. “Hello, Literary Agency? I’d like one Heathcliff tonight and a Mr. Willougby on Wed., please.”

Ever read Woody Allen’s “The Whore of Mensa”?

286 iceweasel  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:35:11pm

re: #271 freetoken

Yeah, I see that a birther showed up too.

Given the number of comments generated, perhaps that will be a sign to BH management that it would be worth having you back.

The regulars there seemed like smart people, and had really nice things to say about the interview, including calls for Charles to do more of them and at least one for him to be an interlocutor.

I think they’ll make very short work of the haters over there.

287 John Neverbend  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:35:25pm

re: #284 Walter L. Newton

Quite.


The French nobility were the same. Just look at Henry V.

288 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:35:25pm

re: #276 prairiefire

(snip)
I am not talking about an escort service. Although, I think that would be a hit with middle aged women. “Hello, Literary Agency? I’d like one Heathcliff tonight and a Mr. Willougby on Wed., please.”

Are you crawling the dark underbelly of Kindle?

289 HoosierHoops  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:36:04pm

re: #275 windsagio

What I kind of got out of it, is that she really knew exactly what she was doing. She made a ton of money and made herself much more marketable in the process.

Theres the question of course of WHY? given her already crazy wealth… but maybe she had something to prove >>

re: #272 Decatur Deb

exactly! more evidence that it was essentially an act.

I’ll hand Paris one thing.. Even after that crappy sex-tape she still kept
driving To Star bucks for coffee every morning..
Tiger is still hiding in his house…Come -on Tiger..You can do it

290 windsagio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:36:06pm

re: #282 albusteve

Damn you for making me read her Wikipedia entry! (hey, share the pain)

I guess she does have a reason to scrub for money at this point. The article says it wasn’t about her bad behavior tho’.

291 HoosierHoops  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:36:42pm

re: #279 irish rose

Good evening, lizards.

Hi You! Hope you are well

292 windsagio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:37:06pm

re: #287 John Neverbend

Well, we’re talking about the nobility. Of course they’re awful and crazy :)

(broad brush ahoy!)

293 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:37:17pm

re: #287 John Neverbend

The French nobility were the same. Just look at Henry V.

Just look at the whole baroque period. Which brings me around to another recommendation… read Stephensons Baroque Cycle… Quicksilver, The Confusion and The System of the World… best way I found to learn that history without falling asleep.

294 irish rose  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:37:53pm

re: #291 HoosierHoops

Very well, thanks.

295 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:38:12pm

My son and I were having a conversation a while back. He really wishes I had decided to call him “Dude” instead of the name we used for him.

296 prairiefire  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:38:31pm

re: #265 Walter L. Newton

Favorited for future reading.

297 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:38:31pm

Glenn Reynolds updated his post defending the shoeshine boy picture, and said I “slagged” him. With no response to the points I made.

298 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:38:33pm

re: #290 windsagio

Damn you for making me read her Wikipedia entry! (hey, share the pain)

I guess she does have a reason to scrub for money at this point. The article says it wasn’t about her bad behavior tho’.

I don’t understand, every time I see a picture of Hilton, her chest is a different size.

299 albusteve  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:38:53pm

re: #290 windsagio

Damn you for making me read her Wikipedia entry! (hey, share the pain)

I guess she does have a reason to scrub for money at this point. The article says it wasn’t about her bad behavior tho’.

Paris is not even on my interest radar…I could give a shit who she is or what she does….it’s all a good joke on the public, supporting such a brazen attention whore

300 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:39:07pm

re: #295 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My son and I were having a conversation a while back. He really wishes I had decided to call him “Dude” instead of the name we used for him.

Which is “Little Shit?” :)

301 irish rose  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:40:10pm

re: #297 Charles

Glenn Reynolds updated his post defending the shoeshine boy picture, and said I “slagged” him. With no response to the points I made.

There is no defense.

302 prairiefire  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:40:11pm

re: #274 John Neverbend

Thanks, favourited for future reference.

303 windsagio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:40:40pm

re: #299 albusteve

Thats what makes it interesting to me. Until 2008, I didn’t care at all either. However, the idea that the whole bad behavior act is a huge shuck on the public, and that she’s acting badly all the way to the bank makes it more interesting.

304 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:40:57pm

re: #11 Slumbering Behemoth

DUDE

No dings? Really?

305 prairiefire  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:42:02pm

re: #285 John Neverbend

Maybe in the past if it is in one of his collections of short stories. Am I stealing?

306 ryannon  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:42:06pm

re: #275 windsagio

What I kind of got out of it, is that she really knew exactly what she was doing. She made a ton of money and made herself much more marketable in the process.

Theres the question of course of WHY? given her already crazy wealth… but maybe she had something to prove >>

re: #272 Decatur Deb

exactly! more evidence that it was essentially an act.


As I remember, either she and her sister or their parents or the whole family had been more or less cut out of their grandfather’s will (and fortune) - meaning that Paris had to get out there and make money for herself. Taking a cue from others before her, she essentially invented herself and became bankable. And like others before her who did the same thing, you can be sure she’s extremely astute - if not intelligent.

307 jaunte  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:42:19pm

re: #297 Charles

“Boy, bend over backwards to avoid accusing a Democrat of racism and what do you get? Slagged by Charles Johnson.”


I think he may even be underestimating his audience, if he thinks they’ll honestly buy that excuse.

308 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:42:35pm

Oh yeah.

GO COWBOYS!

Back to the thread.

309 windsagio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:43:19pm

re: #307 jaunte

its in their vested interest to buy it, so of course they will!

re: #306 ryannon

yeah thats what I”m getting. Fooling the entire country (if not the world) that well is a pretty good trick.

310 John Neverbend  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:43:33pm

re: #283 windsagio

I suspect you’re an expert on the subject, so I”ll bow to your superior knowledge.

I’m not an expert on this subject. The oldest Mitford daughter was born 3 years after the death of Queen Victoria. By the time the Mitford children were old enough to be running around playing “hons and counter-hons”, Britain was well into the 20th century.

311 iceweasel  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:43:52pm

re: #285 John Neverbend

Ever read Woody Allen’s “The Whore of Mensa”?

Heh. SFZ made a reference to it yesterday. I still laugh everytime I read it.

“I needed cash. A girl friend said she knew a married guy whose wife wasn’t very profound. He was into Blake. She couldn’t hack it. I said sure, for a price I’d talk Blake with him. I was nervous at first. I faked a lot of it. He didn’t care. My friend said there were others…..”

[Link: woodyallenitalia.tripod.com…]

312 windsagio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:44:12pm

re: #310 John Neverbend

you’re making my point :p

hows this, you know way more about it than I do.

313 HoosierHoops  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:45:27pm

re: #308 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh yeah.

GO COWBOYS!

Back to the thread.

Well played game..Congrads

314 albusteve  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:45:30pm

re: #303 windsagio

Thats what makes it interesting to me. Until 2008, I didn’t care at all either. However, the idea that the whole bad behavior act is a huge shuck on the public, and that she’s acting badly all the way to the bank makes it more interesting.

I don’t know what the markup is in the attention whore business…but the overhead must be extensive…think about it…what’s her profit margin?…my guess is she’s not making that much money and when her mojo runs out she will be broke

315 John Neverbend  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:46:08pm

re: #312 windsagio

you’re making my point :p

hows this, you know way more about it than I do.


I’m sorry, I’m trying to be a self-effacing Englishman.

316 albusteve  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:46:43pm

re: #306 ryannon

As I remember, either she and her sister or their parents or the whole family had been more or less cut out of their grandfather’s will (and fortune) - meaning that Paris had to get out there and make money for herself. Taking a cue from others before her, she essentially invented herself and became bankable. And like others before her who did the same thing, you can be sure she’s extremely astute - if not intelligent.

pizza pie outa horse shit…I love America

317 windsagio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:46:52pm

re: #315 John Neverbend

haha :D

don’t mean to come off as nasty, sorry :)

318 Kronocide  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:47:15pm

re: #268 albusteve

I didn’t see it as competition necessarily…Conn was not that contentious and Charles made his points very nicely, and that’s all there was to it

It seems liked Conn was trying to make it a competition: Charles didn’t give him that ‘in’ to make it one.

319 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:47:47pm

re: #313 HoosierHoops

Well played game..Congrads

Well, I’d rather be in the “we didn’t have to play everyone” camp.

C’mon Cincinnati!

320 albusteve  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:47:57pm

re: #313 HoosierHoops

Well played game..Congrads

simply awesome first half…nobody wants to play the Cowboys right now…their D is overwhelming and Romo is red hot

321 windsagio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:48:07pm

re: #314 albusteve

I’m not gonna ask you to read the wiki, its kinda painful.

So:

Hilton has worked as a model, actress, singer, and engaged in occasional business pursuits.[11] According to Forbes Magazine, she earned approximately $2 million in 2003–2004,[12] $6.5 million in 2004–2005,[13] and $7 million in 2005–2006.[14]

322 ryannon  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:48:17pm

re: #316 albusteve

pizza pie outa horse shit…I love America

And delivered piping hot in 30 minutes or you get it for free.

What’s not to like?

323 windsagio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:48:20pm

re: #321 windsagio

good lord, why am I even discussing this?

324 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:48:21pm

re: #271 freetoken

Yeah, I see that a birther showed up too.

Given the number of comments generated, perhaps that will be a sign to BH management that it would be worth having you back.

I checked around the site, and its pretty rare for one of their videos to get this many comments.

325 windsagio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:49:34pm

re: #320 albusteve

Its not fair, but I’ve hated the Cowboys since I was old enough to know what Football was.

326 HoosierHoops  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:49:47pm

re: #320 albusteve

simply awesome first half…nobody wants to play the Cowboys right now…their D is overwhelming and Romo is red hot

Colts would love to play the Cowboys in the Superbowl..
Peyton Manning isn’t afraid of that lame ass Romo.. *wink*
/Romo did play well

327 albusteve  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:49:49pm

re: #318 BigPapa

It seems liked Conn was trying to make it a competition: Charles didn’t give him that ‘in’ to make it one.

maybe…Conn is a talking head, his primary goal is to attract listeners and for that he got schooled…it’s a business

328 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:50:15pm

re: #307 jaunte

“Boy, bend over backwards to avoid accusing a Democrat of racism and what do you get? Slagged by Charles Johnson.”

I think he may even be underestimating his audience, if he thinks they’ll honestly buy that excuse.

I know — it’s a pretty pathetic attempt to duck the fact that he defended something that’s indefensible.

329 albusteve  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:51:18pm

re: #323 windsagio

good lord, why am I even discussing this?

because you are a celebrity monger?….don’t know otherwise, but your wiki link went to waste with me

330 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:51:20pm

re: #323 windsagio

good lord, why am I even discussing this?

I guess the actual point I”m trying to get at is that railing against people caring about it isn’t that far from caring alot about it. If you don’t care, ignore it and go on with your life.

Maybe?

331 irish rose  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:51:26pm

I just finished watching the interview Charles, I’ve been away since Thursday. You did an excellent job.

332 Political Atheist  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:51:39pm

re: #297 Charles

Just sayin as a furnace worker-Well the slag is the crap that floats on the good metal, slag is a fine description of this guy. That’s the thing about the crucible, it separates the crap from the good. Charles you simply applied the heat as needed. Nicely done.

333 Kronocide  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:52:00pm

re: #327 albusteve

maybe…Conn is a talking head, his primary goal is to attract listeners and for that he got schooled…it’s a business

Understood and I don’t hold that against him at all. For the most part, he was pretty nice, but towards the end it seemed that he was trying to get an in to start a ‘gotcha’ with Charles. There’s several ways to debate, argue, and disagree: Conn didn’t need to do it.

Comparative to many of the other clowns, Conn was pretty decent and behaved.

334 John Neverbend  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:52:09pm

re: #311 iceweasel

Whenever I’m in MOMA, I always look for the “thin Jewish brunette.”

335 albusteve  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:52:45pm

re: #326 HoosierHoops

Colts would love to play the Cowboys in the Superbowl..
Peyton Manning isn’t afraid of that lame ass Romo.. *wink*
/Romo did play well

the Colts would have their hands full judging from the recent past…bring it on

336 windsagio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:53:18pm

re: #329 albusteve

now now, you’re just mad ‘cuz I hate the Cowboys :p

337 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:53:22pm

re: #320 albusteve

simply awesome first half…nobody wants to play the Cowboys right now…their D is overwhelming and Romo is red hot

The Broncos lost 44-24.

338 prairiefire  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:53:54pm

re: #328 Charles

I couldn’t get past that stupid laugh of his after you said “happy to be here”. Like he was going to make you rue saying that. He’s a turd.

339 John Neverbend  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:54:09pm

re: #317 windsagio

haha :D

don’t mean to come off as nasty, sorry :)

You didn’t come off that way at all.

340 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:54:30pm

re: #331 irish rose

I just finished watching the interview Charles, I’ve been away since Thursday. You did an excellent job.

Thanks, Rose!

341 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:54:39pm

re: #323 windsagio

good lord, why am I even discussing this?

Because the best poison is candy-coated.

342 albusteve  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:54:45pm

re: #337 Walter L. Newton

The Broncos lost 44-24.

an epic tank this year…too bad

343 Randall Gross  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:54:46pm

re: #328 Charles

On that topic check your email if you haven’t lately.

344 ryannon  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:55:19pm

re: #332 Rightwingconspirator

Just sayin as a furnace worker-Well the slag is the crap that floats on the good metal, slag is a fine description of this guy. That’s the thing about the crucible, it separates the crap from the good. Charles you simply applied the heat as needed. Nicely done.

I’ve always wondered how they separate the slag from the good metal when you see it all glowing red-hot in the crucible.

345 albusteve  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:55:30pm

re: #336 windsagio

now now, you’re just mad ‘cuz I hate the Cowboys :p

not hardly

346 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:55:57pm

re: #343 Thanos

On that topic check your email if you haven’t lately.

Good catch. Will update.

347 iceweasel  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:58:00pm

re: #334 John Neverbend

Whenever I’m in MOMA, I always look for the “thin Jewish brunette.”

For a hundred, a girl would lend you her Bartok records, have dinner, and then let you watch while she had an anxiety attack. For one-fifty, you could listen to FM radio with twins. For three bills, you got the works: A thin Jewish brunette would pretend to pick you up at the Museum of Modern Art, let you read her master’s, get you involved in a screaming quarrel at Elaine’s over Freud’s conception of women, and then fake a suicide of your choosing - the perfect evening, for some guys. Nice racket. Great town, New York.

Which also reminds me of another great Woody Allen bit, albeit from Annie Hall:

Allison: I’m in the midst of doing my thesis.
Alvy Singer: On what?
Allison: Political commitment in twentieth century literature.
Alvy Singer: You, you, you’re like New York, Jewish, left-wing, liberal, intellectual, Central Park West, Brandeis University, the socialist summer camps and the, the father with the Ben Shahn drawings, right, and the really, y’know, strike-oriented kind of, red diaper, stop me before I make a complete imbecile of myself.
Allison: No, that was wonderful. I love being reduced to a cultural stereotype.
Alvy Singer: Right, I’m a bigot, I know, but for the left.

348 HoosierHoops  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 4:58:32pm

re: #335 albusteve

the Colts would have their hands full judging from the recent past…bring it on

Just for the record.. When Peyton has played this year..He is unbeatable..
He have faced the best..and beaten them..
The last 2 weeks Peyton has been told to just go out and throw a couple of TD passes and get out…
And Steve-o When was the last time the Cowboys won a play-off game? 1996? You have to win something first before you can trash talk..
*wink*

349 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:00:56pm

re: #348 HoosierHoops

There are days that I like you less than other days….

350 albusteve  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:01:16pm

re: #348 HoosierHoops

Just for the record.. When Peyton has played this year..He is unbeatable..
He have faced the best..and beaten them..
The last 2 weeks Peyton has been told to just go out and throw a couple of TD passes and get out…
And Steve-o When was the last time the Cowboys won a play-off game? 1996? You have to win something first before you can trash talk..
*wink*

win something?…the Cowboy division title/playoff/SB record put’s the Colt’s to shame…wtf are you even talking about?

351 windsagio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:01:17pm

re: #347 iceweasel

Thing I get from Woodie Allen… Or not get.


I will never understand New Yorkers’ obsession with New York.

352 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:02:40pm

re: #348 HoosierHoops

Just for the record.. When Peyton has played this year..He is unbeatable..
He have faced the best..and beaten them..
The last 2 weeks Peyton has been told to just go out and throw a couple of TD passes and get out…
And Steve-o When was the last time the Cowboys won a play-off game? 1996? You have to win something first before you can trash talk..
*wink*

With a 11-5 season so far, that’s nothing to sniff at, is it?

353 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:03:01pm

re: #351 windsagio

Thing I get from Woodie Allen… Or not get.

I will never understand New Yorkers’ obsession with New York.

Ya hadda be there.

354 ryannon  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:03:17pm

re: #351 windsagio

Thing I get from Woodie Allen… Or not get.

I will never understand New Yorkers’ obsession with New York.

For some people, it was an amazing place.

For others, it still is.

355 prairiefire  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:03:45pm

re: #354 ryannon

It still is.

356 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:04:14pm

re: #297 Charles

Glenn Reynolds updated his post defending the shoeshine boy picture, and said I “slagged” him. With no response to the points I made.

Main Entry: 3slag
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): slagged; slag·ging
Etymology: probably from 2slag
Date: 1971

chiefly British : to criticize harshly

So, what’s wrong with that?

357 ryannon  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:04:26pm

re: #355 prairiefire

It still is.

And there you go.

358 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:04:30pm

re: #350 albusteve

win something?…the Cowboy division title/playoff/SB record put’s the Colt’s to shame…wtf are you even talking about?

And todays win put the Eagles to shame…

359 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:05:06pm

re: #351 windsagio

Thing I get from Woodie Allen… Or not get.

I will never understand New Yorkers’ obsession with New York.

No, I don’t suspect you would… ever.

360 jaunte  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:05:46pm

re: #356 Alouette

Main Entry: 3slag
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): slagged; slag·ging
Etymology: probably from 2slag
Date: 1971

chiefly British : to criticize harshly

So, what’s wrong with that?

Well, kinda harsh; Reynolds says he was just protecting a Democrat.
///

361 iceweasel  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:06:28pm

re: #351 windsagio

Thing I get from Woodie Allen… Or not get.

I will never understand New Yorkers’ obsession with New York.

Hey, if you can make it there, you’ll make it anywhere!

Here’s some more Woody, also from Annie Hall. Possibly my favourite line ever:

Alvy Singer: Don’t you see the rest of the country looks upon New York like we’re left-wing, communist, Jewish, homosexual pornographers? I think of us that way sometimes and I live here.

362 HoosierHoops  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:06:44pm

re: #350 albusteve

win something?…the Cowboy division title/playoff/SB record put’s the Colt’s to shame…wtf are you even talking about?

I’m talking about the play-offs since 1996…Have you won one game?
Look the Raiders have a great record also.. That was in the past.. The 49ers were the greatest team of their time in the 80’s.. The Cowboy’s in the 90’s were almost unbeatable…Patriots were awesome in the 2000’s.
The Colt’s aren’t afraid of the Cowboys…

363 Randall Gross  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:07:36pm

re: #356 Alouette

Main Entry: 3slag
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): slagged; slag·ging
Etymology: probably from 2slag
Date: 1971

chiefly British : to criticize harshly

So, what’s wrong with that?

It could be worse - he coulda Swaged him:
swage (swj)
n.
1. A tool used in bending or shaping cold metal.
2. A stamp or die for marking or shaping metal with a hammer.
3. A swage block.
tr.v. swaged, swag·ing, swag·es
To bend or shape by or as if by using a swage.

364 albusteve  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:07:50pm

re: #358 Walter L. Newton

And todays win put the Eagles to shame…

I’m a fan…I hate the Eagles with a passion…so yes the ‘best team’ in the NFC got their asses kicked twice now by the Cowboys…next up?…the Eagles again

365 Stan the Demanded Plan  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:08:21pm

re: #362 HoosierHoops

re: #342 albusteve

Who plays the Chargers first?

366 windsagio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:09:55pm

re: #361 iceweasel


Thank you!

That quote is perfect for what I’m talking about. The truth is the rest of the world just doesn’t think about New York that much at all :)

367 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:09:59pm

re: #364 albusteve

I’m a fan…I hate the Eagles with a passion…so yes the ‘best team’ in the NFC got their asses kicked twice now by the Cowboys…next up?…the Eagles again

The Cowboys may be unstoppable this season.

368 iceweasel  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:10:27pm

re: #356 Alouette

Main Entry: 3slag
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): slagged; slag·ging
Etymology: probably from 2slag
Date: 1971

chiefly British : to criticize harshly

So, what’s wrong with that?

Well, someone like John (or Jimmah) could fill us in for sure, but I always thought it carried the connotation of unfairly or unduly harsh criticism. Emphasis on unfair. So Instahack is slagging Charles by suggesting that Charles slagged him.

369 HoosierHoops  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:11:24pm

re: #365 Stanley Sea

re: #342 albusteve

Who plays the Chargers first?

Surprisingly.. We want to play SD.. They have knocked us out the last couple of years….The Colts want to play them in the play-offs…

370 The Shadow Do  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:11:31pm

Hey Steve! How ‘bout them boys…
I’m kind of happy for Wade Phillips. Nice guy, gets a ton of abuse. Was in Denver when he got run out by Shanahan and have not been too pleased to see it happening again here in Dallas. I think he is a terrific coach and would love to see him get the last laugh.

371 ryannon  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:11:55pm

re: #366 windsagio

Thank you!

That quote is perfect for what I’m talking about. The truth is the rest of the world just doesn’t think about New York that much at all :)

Maybe not, But in one way or another, they all dream about it.

372 windsagio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:11:55pm

re: #368 iceweasel

headachey.


/Also, is instapundit British, or just a vile Anglophile?

(No personal insult intended :p)

373 John Neverbend  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:12:17pm

re: #295 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My son and I were having a conversation a while back. He really wishes I had decided to call him “Dude” instead of the name we used for him.

You didn’t call him Slab Hardcake, did you?

374 iceweasel  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:12:19pm

re: #366 windsagio

Thank you!

That quote is perfect for what I’m talking about. The truth is the rest of the world just doesn’t think about New York that much at all :)

That’s their loss. :)

(Sorry, ardent NYC defender here.)

375 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:12:49pm

Newark terminal locked down, TSA says

[Link: www.cnn.com…]

376 albusteve  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:14:20pm

re: #362 HoosierHoops

I’m talking about the play-offs since 1996…Have you won one game?
Look the Raiders have a great record also.. That was in the past.. The 49ers were the greatest team of their time in the 80’s.. The Cowboy’s in the 90’s were almost unbeatable…Patriots were awesome in the 2000’s.
The Colt’s aren’t afraid of the Cowboys…

well yeah…pick a time frame that supports your thing…like the stock market, I’m in it for the long run…the Colts drafted Manning because they were the laughingstock of the NFL…Romo is an undrafted punk from nowhere….and he is playing just as good as Manning this year…the Colts don’t scare Romo or the gritty Cowboys…live your Manning myth…he’s a proven choker himself

377 windsagio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:14:20pm

re: #374 iceweasel

re: #371 ryannon

Hehe its all in good fun I won’t get offended if you guys don’t ;)

I don’t think its a bad place, just not as important as the natives seem to think of it…

/maybe .001% as important? Round numbers here.

378 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:14:24pm

re: #374 iceweasel

That’s their loss. :)

(Sorry, ardent NYC defender here.)

The world revolves around NYC. That’s common knowledge.

379 Joan  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:14:55pm

re: #356 Alouette
You post a useful reference. Etymology derived from shoeshine to ‘shine as a racial slur appears at the same source (below). I wonder how it is possible to be ignorant of the racist overtones embedded in the image of Sarah Palin getting her shoes blacked (old-time usage) by Obama?

shine (n.)
1529, “brightness,” from shine (v.). Meaning “polish given to a pair of boots” is from 1871. Derogatory meaning “black person” is from 1908. Phrase to take a shine to “fancy” is Amer.Eng. slang from 1839. Shiner for “black eye” first recorded 1904.

380 iceweasel  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:15:10pm

re: #372 windsagio

headachey.


/Also, is instapundit British, or just a vile Anglophile?

(No personal insult intended :p)

none taken!

InstaHack, or Perfesser Corncob, as he is derided on the left, is merely vile, as is his wife. I don’t know if he’s an anglophile as well. Not a Brit.

381 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:15:58pm

re: #368 iceweasel

Well, someone like John (or Jimmah) could fill us in for sure, but I always thought it carried the connotation of unfairly or unduly harsh criticism. Emphasis on unfair. So Instahack is slagging Charles by suggesting that Charles slagged him.

Teh Interwebs was made for slagging.

382 albusteve  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:16:15pm

re: #367 Walter L. Newton

The Cowboys may be unstoppable this season.

it’s fun for me…I live and die all season with that shit…maybe the Cowboys can get somewhere in the playoffs…right now, today, they are easily the premier team in the league

383 John Neverbend  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:16:26pm

re: #374 iceweasel

That’s their loss. :)

(Sorry, ardent NYC defender here.)

Well, it’s 21F and feels like 11F at the moment. So, I’m a frozen NYC defender.

384 windsagio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:16:54pm

re: #380 iceweasel

Americans (especially American geeks) who pick up british slang are awful and annoying. Its just pathetic!

385 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:16:59pm

re: #382 albusteve

it’s fun for me…I live and die all season with that shit…maybe the Cowboys can get somewhere in the playoffs…right now, today, they are easily the premier team in the league

I agree. HH will come to understand that in time.

386 albusteve  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:19:33pm

re: #370 The Shadow Do

Hey Steve! How ‘bout them boys…
I’m kind of happy for Wade Phillips. Nice guy, gets a ton of abuse. Was in Denver when he got run out by Shanahan and have not been too pleased to see it happening again here in Dallas. I think he is a terrific coach and would love to see him get the last laugh.

the Cowboys get tons of abuse…the national attention and scrutiny is almost overwhelming…Wade is a fine man and a pretty doggone good coach…he deserves whatever he can get

387 ryannon  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:20:48pm

re: #378 Walter L. Newton

The world revolves around NYC. That’s common knowledge.

And the colored girls go….

388 solomonpanting  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:22:13pm

re: #382 albusteve

right now, today, they are easily the premier team in the league

Well, they have won three straight……..
….The Chargers have won eleven straight.

389 Wozza Matter?  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:23:56pm

re: #368 iceweasel


To “slag off someone” is to deride or critisize them in the derogatory or the same but in a gossipy manner. A slagging off can be given fairly - but as generally it’s given to a third party, it’s generally of the gossipy format.

390 iceweasel  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:24:13pm

re: #384 windsagio

Americans (especially American geeks) who pick up british slang are awful and annoying. Its just pathetic!


Guilty!

I fall into that category, but I do have the (perhaps poor) excuse of having spent years there. And i try to keep egregious slang Brit slang usages out of my speech when talking to Americans, just as I have to remember to define words like schlep or schlemiel to Brits when i talk to them, and use those less.
It’s interesting the way we switch linguistic conventions depending on who we’re talking to. reminds me of the old quote:

England and America are two countries divided by a common language.

BTW, I have Jimmah using the word ‘schlep’ now, which sounds hilarious in a Scots accent.

391 albusteve  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:25:28pm

re: #388 solomonpanting

Well, they have won three straight…
The Chargers have won eleven straight.

the Chargers are a very good team, and could easily have lost to the Cowboys, who shut them down offensively…Romo outplayed rivers two to one that game

392 windsagio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:25:36pm

re: #390 iceweasel

I’d… I’d pay to hear that.


Having spent years there is a pretty good excuse. You know the people I’m talking about. Got their accent from Monty Python and Fawlty Towers

393 Wozza Matter?  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:26:05pm

re: #384 windsagio

And Brits who take up American spellings are as bad, on that i’m a hypocrite, but it irks me no end when a Subject of Her Majesty resorts to “coloring in” or using a “Favorite”.

394 ryannon  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:26:26pm

re: #374 iceweasel

That’s their loss. :)

(Sorry, ardent NYC defender here.)

Except when you get caught in crosstown traffic:


395 windsagio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:27:17pm

re: #393 wozzablog

wait, whats the British spelling of “Favorite”?

I totally get your point tho’ The worst bit is the affectation.

396 solomonpanting  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:27:58pm

re: #391 albusteve

…Romo outplayed rivers two to one that game

I don’t understand that line.

397 iceweasel  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:31:04pm

re: #393 wozzablog

And Brits who take up American spellings are as bad, on that i’m a hypocrite, but it irks me no end when a Subject of Her Majesty resorts to “coloring in” or using a “Favorite”.

Thanks for the info on ‘slagging off’!
There’s a weird love/hate thing going on there, I think. Slagging off Americans is perennially popular (hee), but at the same time there’s a weird love of various American things— whether it’s spellings or TV shows or whatever.
Same thing with Anglophilia.

I don’t think it’s bad to modify one’s spellings depending on who you’re talking to or what & where your job is, necessarily.

398 albusteve  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:31:56pm

re: #396 solomonpanting

I don’t understand that line.

two to one is cliche…Rivers sucked that game until the very end and got lucky…shit happens…it was one of his worst games of the season and one of Romos best, but the W went to SD nonetheless

399 iceweasel  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:33:47pm

re: #394 ryannon

Except when you get caught in crosstown traffic:

[Video]

Heh. My favourite NY song: LCD Soundsystem, New York I Love You, But You’re Bringing Me Down.
great lyrics

400 Wozza Matter?  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:34:27pm

re: #390 iceweasel

I’m not Jewish, but i have always been taken as Jewish in London’s more liberal areas, mainly due to my dress sense and beard. It’s been a gradual process but is at the stage where the local Rabbi is congused as to why he has never seen me in Temple.

My pidgeon yiddish patter is always delivered in a broad scots accent, there is something about saying “meshuggah” in a scots accent that drives the ladies wild.

401 windsagio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:35:01pm

re: #397 iceweasel

I think americanized spellings are a combination of the internet disease and the population imbalance. As we grow more connected dialects (and languages in general) start to fade. If I were a Brit, it would drive me freakin’ bonkers tho’.

Also! An brit who affects american mannerisms is juuussst sad. Be yourself dammit!

402 oldegeezr  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:35:33pm

re: #391 albusteve

What’s with these computer generated line ups for the play offs?

The Packer’s will have to whoop the Cardinal’s again, next Sunday… in Arizona?

Why not the “frozen tundra” in Green Bay…gimme a break!
Best defense in the league, if Woodson isn’t to badly injured?

403 Wozza Matter?  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:35:40pm

re: #395 windsagio

Favourite………..

404 windsagio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:36:52pm

re: #403 wozzablog

argh I should have known that! I’d love to know the etymology of how the ‘o’ spelling and the ‘ou’ spelling split.

405 Kewalo  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:37:02pm

re: #390 iceweasel

I’m guilty to a degree myself. I love “over the moon.” And if I sound awful, too bad.

406 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:39:50pm

re: #384 windsagio

Americans (especially American geeks) who pick up british slang are awful and annoying. Its just pathetic!

I claim the vintage LandRover exemption. My repair manuals are full of spanners, gudgeon pins, and “ticking over”. And don’t even mention “driver’s side”.

407 solomonpanting  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:43:51pm

re: #398 albusteve

Rivers “sucked” and “it was one of his worst games” and “one of Romo’s best”

yet…yet…yet..

“the W went to SD”


I’d sure like to see the results when Rivers has a good game, doesn’t suck and Romo is so-so.
;)

408 Wozza Matter?  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:48:17pm

re: #397 iceweasel

The characterisations of both nations by each other go for good and bad, Americans seem to like British Pluck, but can’t abide the stuck up blue blood Aristocracy, apart from the Queen (either out of jealousy, or through conceited self belief in a meritocracy).

Britishers like American television, food, music and pornography - while deriding - hypocritally - the sedentary nature of existence and ballooning waistlines.

British people love french food but hate frenchpeople, the french hate british food, but do have a sly soft spot for British peoples character (minus the xenophobia).

Swings and roundabouts.

409 rurality  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:49:41pm

re: #390 iceweasel

My dad was english, so I cut myself some slack—love using the word ‘winge’, but am currently reading a book by an American woman who married a Scot, (Living with the Laird by Belinda Rathbone for you files Iceweasel) and she’s uses ‘Whilst’ all the time and find it annoying. Also like the term ‘twee’, (” icky cutesy”) but can’t drop it with ease here.
got four projects going, sorry to flit in and out. bbl

410 Wozza Matter?  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:49:48pm

re: #408 wozzablog

and teeth, americans hate british teeth.

411 windsagio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:51:17pm

re: #408 wozzablog

Everyone hates british food! (sorry I had to :p)

I think its deep in the American psyche to hate any upper class that they acknowledge as existing. We’re trained to distrust power structures, thats part of the reason our politics are such a mess >>

412 Wozza Matter?  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:53:10pm

re: #411 windsagio


Ah, yes. American hatred of everything and anything “elite” - in pursuit of anything and everything that can be had a beer with.

Let me know how that works out ;-)

413 windsagio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:53:51pm

re: #412 wozzablog


Not well, my friend. Not well…

414 Wozza Matter?  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:57:14pm

re: #411 windsagio


On the food front - it’s really British eating that is at the root of it all, not the standard of food.

British food - for the quality of raw meats, fish and veg are many of the finest in the world, and a great steak & ale pie is trully a thing of beauty, but the quality of eating led to the dirth of decent dishes in eateries in the bad old days.

Britain though now has the worlds best Indian, Italian, French and Greek restaurants. A Curry is now Britains national dish, and there are some corkers.

415 windsagio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 5:58:56pm

re: #414 wozzablog

Well put. I also read something somewehre (don’t remember where sadly) about how the slump in British food had alot to do with them spending decades exporting all their best raw ingredients. At the time (it was the ’90s I think) they were just starting to reverse the trend.

416 ryannon  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 6:04:19pm

re: #399 iceweasel

Heh. My favourite NY song: LCD Soundsystem, New York I Love You, But You’re Bringing Me Down.
great lyrics

[Video]


Here’s one you’ve probably not heard: “City Life” a long symphonic piece by Steve Reich. Part One: “Check It Out”:

The four other parts can be found here

417 Wozza Matter?  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 6:04:52pm

re: #415 windsagio

People who wanted a good meal generally - if they were local - knew where to find a good meal. Ego Ronay, and others did sterling work on that front.

The problem in modern times (post war) is that rationing in the UK didn’t end until about 1952 - so a generation of children and young people grew up in a time of shortages and “making do” - there were not enough ingredients to “eat well”. It is true - however - that during rationing the British people were (unless a bomb fell on them) healthier than they had ever been.

The problems of rationing and the eating habits surrounding it had very very long lasting impacts here.

418 windsagio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 6:05:45pm

re: #417 wozzablog

see I love hearing about stuff like this.

Thank you :D

419 Wozza Matter?  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 6:08:09pm

re: #418 windsagio

No worries, am always glad to hold forth on the sceptered isle.

420 prairiefire  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 6:19:07pm

re: #419 wozzablog

In your experience as a Brit, have you ever had a chocolate sponge cake with a warm chocolate pudding poured over it? I had this at school in Lincoln shire and it was very good. However, it was not in the school made recipe book. I have not seen a recipe for it elsewhere.

421 Wozza Matter?  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 6:42:59pm

re: #420 prairiefire

On multiple occasions - but they did not go all out at your school then - which is Chocolate sponge cake, with hot custard/pudding and vanilla ice cream melting before it hits the bowl.

The chocolate sauce was i’m betting what the Brit’s call “custard”…..

The particular type of chocolate spinge cake i had at school was exceptionally bland and uninspiring - but the web is littred with decent chocolate sponge cake recipes, try Delia Smith for a good british one.

Mass catering custards are usually packet based - Birdseye used to be the main one.


vanilla Custard recipe (i suggest experimenting with adding cocoa powder to create a chocolate version)
[Link: www.channel4.com…]

Chocolate sponge cake
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk…]

422 prairiefire  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 6:47:50pm

re: #421 wozzablog

Thanks very much! Yes, they called it “custard”. Also, when I would get a ride in the school van at the same time that he was taking the lunch ladies home, they chatted away in the back seats and sounded just like the Monty Python ladies.

423 Wozza Matter?  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 6:52:15pm

re: #422 prairiefire

Entirely my pleasure.

ah, the *ladies* from python……… Michael Palin never looked finer ;-)

424 Jimmah  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 7:20:09pm

re: #392 windsagio

I’d… I’d pay to hear that.

Happy to oblige!

There’s nothin’ quite like a guid wee schlep aboot NYC ;-)

425 windsagio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 7:20:51pm

re: #424 Jimmah

My day is made, who do I make the check out to?!

426 Jimmah  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 7:25:16pm

re: #414 wozzablog

On the food front - it’s really British eating that is at the root of it all, not the standard of food.

British food - for the quality of raw meats, fish and veg are many of the finest in the world, and a great steak & ale pie is trully a thing of beauty, but the quality of eating led to the dirth of decent dishes in eateries in the bad old days.

Britain though now has the worlds best Indian, Italian, French and Greek restaurants. A Curry is now Britains national dish, and there are some corkers.

I love the food in NYC - the italian and mexican in particular, but the indian food there really is a sad little joke, unfortunately. It’s as if someone ate a proper indian meal in the uk 20 years ago and then went to the US and tried to remember what it was, guessing the ingredients etc and getting it all completely wrong.

427 Jimmah  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 7:28:47pm

re: #425 windsagio

My day is made, who do I make the check out to?!

Jimmah-Ice Productions, as usual :)

Some bonus scottish accents -

(btw ‘cheesy wotsits’ are the UK version of cheetos)

428 windsagio  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 7:31:41pm

re: #427 Jimmah

needs more americanisms!!!

(yes I know thats the exact opposite of what I was saying earlier, but I don’t care anymore :p)

429 AemJeff  Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:48:34pm

We of the Bloggingheads.tv hive mind welcome the unit called Charles Johnson and his lizard cohort to the collective.

Seriously it was a good appearance, Conn’s participation was a real drive-by attempted mauling, mostly unsuccessful; and I hope they have Charles back.

430 mikhailtheplumber  Mon, Jan 4, 2010 1:36:38pm

I don’t comment in Shabbos.
Of course, today is Monday.
But I’m pretty sure it’s Shabbos somewhere.


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