Finally! A group of right wingers is calling for a telephone campaign against Glenn Beck!
I’ve been waiting for this to happen …
Oh, wait. They’re angry at Beck for not pushing the birth certificate issue.
I should have known. Never mind.
(Hat tip: Mich-again.)
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windsagio Sun, Jan 3, 2010 7:40:58pm |
Said this last thread, but bears repeating: I desperately hope this is a real movement, just for the comedic value.
Not that they'd get past Beck's screeners...
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jan 3, 2010 7:45:32pm |
re: #1 windsagio
Not that they'd get past Beck's screeners...
There's no telling exactly how far Beck will stoop. Same goes for the GOP. I have little doubt if Repuclicans got control of congress a special prosecutor would the their first action.
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Gus Sun, Jan 3, 2010 7:45:49pm |
Fire Glenn Beck now!
He's not teh crazy enough!
Film @ 11.
/
| 4 |
Vicious Michigan Union Thug Sun, Jan 3, 2010 7:46:17pm |
More bad craziness:
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Palmer_Eldritch Sun, Jan 3, 2010 7:46:31pm |
Beck needs to prove he's not a serial drunk driver who routinely mows down women and children, and until he proves this by producing a certificate verifying he has never mowed women and children down, well, I'm assuming the worst.
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SteveC Sun, Jan 3, 2010 7:46:44pm |
Next, on the Glenn Beck Show, stay tuned for a special episode of Morons acting Moronic!
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windsagio Sun, Jan 3, 2010 7:46:52pm |
re: #5 Palmer_Eldritch
downding for criminally ancient joke :(
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 7:46:53pm |
re: #1 windsagio
Said this last thread, but bears repeating: I desperately hope this is a real movement, just for the comedic value.
Not that they'd get past Beck's screeners...
I hope one or two of them gets past and that Beck tears a stripe off of them. I don't like Glen Beck, but if he were to denounce the Nirthers for the nuts that they are, he would actually do the conservative cause a service for a change.
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windsagio Sun, Jan 3, 2010 7:47:41pm |
re: #8 Dark_Falcon
And it'd be good Television/Radio!
Its up to the producers how he handles it tho', guess it could go either way.
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Gus Sun, Jan 3, 2010 7:48:20pm |
Sure enough. On the front page of the website:
The Jihad Decade Cometh
January 3rd, 2010
American Thinker
by Pameal Geller
| 11 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 7:48:34pm |
re: #5 Palmer_Eldritch
Downding also. That's just not funny. Alcoholism is a serious matter and I'm glad that Glen Beck was able to conquer his addiction. I don't like his show, but I don't like to see people suffer either.
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SteveC Sun, Jan 3, 2010 7:49:03pm |
re: #5 Palmer_Eldritch
Don't toke anymore of that stuff, man. You got a bad bag, that's that greasy nasty shit that don't even give you the munchies.
| 13 |
_RememberTonyC Sun, Jan 3, 2010 7:49:59pm |
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freetoken Sun, Jan 3, 2010 7:50:39pm |
re: #10 Gus 802
Yeah, their front page has the usual suspects - Malkin, CanadaFreePress, etc.
Heh, I hope they do flood Beck's lines.
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Charles Johnson Sun, Jan 3, 2010 7:51:55pm |
re: #10 Gus 802
Sure enough. On the front page of the website:
Pameal Geller!
Help. I've started laughing and I can't stop.
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Gus Sun, Jan 3, 2010 7:52:04pm |
re: #14 freetoken
Yeah, their front page has the usual suspects - Malkin, CanadaFreePress, etc.
Heh, I hope they do flood Beck's lines.
Looks like American Grand Jury/Bob Campbell was also pimped by World Nut Daily early last year.
Pattern detected!
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Gus Sun, Jan 3, 2010 7:52:26pm |
re: #15 Charles
Pameal Geller!
Help. I've started laughing and I can't stop.
Oh I just noticed that! lol
| 18 |
windsagio Sun, Jan 3, 2010 7:52:36pm |
re: #13 _RememberTonyC
I think yer misrepresenting a bit. But ehh~
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_RememberTonyC Sun, Jan 3, 2010 7:53:34pm |
re: #18 windsagio
I think yer misrepresenting a bit. But ehh~
judge it on the facts, not my intentions :)
| 20 |
Varek Raith Sun, Jan 3, 2010 7:54:02pm |
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windsagio Sun, Jan 3, 2010 7:54:46pm |
re: #19 _RememberTonyC
haha I didn't wanna go OT so early, but that means I probably should have just said nothing ;)
I just don't think responding to a crisis is a 'failure of socialism' ;)
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Girth Sun, Jan 3, 2010 7:55:12pm |
From the comments:
My husband wrote his first book, which was published on March 28, 2009, and somewhere in it he talks about BHO’s citizenship issue and that he’s not eligible to be POTUS. Well, since we are from Arkansas and thought Huckabee would be just jumping over backwards to get my husband on his Fox News Channel show, he sent both Huckabee and Huckabee’s contact person he was working with a free copy of his book for review. We waited and waited and waited and didn’t hear any word, so my husband e-mailed his contact and he said that Huckabee won’t have you on his show because, you guessed it, your book mentions the elligibility issue with BHO.
My husband also tried to send Glenn Beck a book. He e-mailed Glenn’s assistant, Pat, and asked if he could send him a book? Again, he never heard back from Pat and my husband kept sending him e-mails (4 in all) and finally this Pat e-mailed my husband back with a reply. He was rude and condescending….he said that Glenn gets hundreds of requests like this on a weekly basis and no matter if you send 100 e-mails we still won’t read your book. We thought that because his book is about Conservatives that surely they’d be wanting to have my husband on the show…..but noooooo!
Lady, I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that the book that your husband wrote and that no one wanted to touch had WAY more problems with it than just the nirther shit.
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_RememberTonyC Sun, Jan 3, 2010 7:56:40pm |
re: #21 windsagio
haha I didn't wanna go OT so early, but that means I probably should have just said nothing ;)
I just don't think responding to a crisis is a 'failure of socialism' ;)
what if the crisis is a result of socialism?
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windsagio Sun, Jan 3, 2010 7:57:30pm |
re: #24 _RememberTonyC
dunno about that, I guess maybe.
I need to go take a break and clean the collected internet-grime off my skin; talk to y'all later ;)
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SteveC Sun, Jan 3, 2010 7:57:53pm |
re: #23 Girth
From the comments:
Lady, I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that the book that your husband wrote and that no one wanted to touch had WAY more problems with it than just the nirther shit.
I bet Nirther foolishness is like stepping on the baseline while shooting - if it goes in it doesn't count and you give up the ball!
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Kronocide Sun, Jan 3, 2010 7:57:53pm |
Damn you Charles! I clicked on this threat thinking 'Bout time, who's getting off the Crazy Train at the Sanity Station, only to be fooled.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jan 3, 2010 7:59:00pm |
re: #10 Gus 802
Sure enough. On the front page of the website:
The Jihad Decade Cometh
January 3rd, 2010
American Thinker
by Pameal Geller
This has to get a rotating title nomination! Please?
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 7:59:08pm |
re: #16 Gus 802
Looks like American Grand Jury/Bob Campbell was also pimped by World Nut Daily early last year.
Pattern detected!
That's no pattern, that's a Wingularity!
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Gus Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:00:30pm |
re: #29 Dark_Falcon
That's no pattern, that's a Wingularity!
The Wingularity giveth and taketh away!
//
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SteveC Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:01:02pm |
The Jihad Decade Cometh
Damn it! Do we need to go buy extra snacks?
| 32 |
Varek Raith Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:01:06pm |
re: #29 Dark_Falcon
That's no pattern, that's a Wingularity!
Our shields can't repel stupidity of that magnitude!
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Girth Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:01:43pm |
re: #26 SteveC
I bet Nirther foolishness is like stepping on the baseline while shooting - if it goes in it doesn't count and you give up the ball!
It's the line of scrimmage. Once you cross it, you can't dump it off to someone, you've got to run with it all by yourself.
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Gus Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:02:00pm |
re: #31 SteveC
Damn it! Do we need to go buy extra snacks?
Yeah but I thought teh wurld is coming to an end in 2012?
//
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SteveC Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:03:30pm |
re: #32 Varek Raith
Our shields can't repel stupidity of that magnitude!
She's comin' apart back here, Cap'n!
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vanderloon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:04:08pm |
I am aware of all internet traditions and also of spelling conventions.
But here pameal gellar is not.
It seems to me that what Pameal is about is, well, sort of questionable.
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Varek Raith Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:04:25pm |
re: #34 Gus 802
Yeah but I thought teh wurld is coming to an end in 2012?
//
Still is. That's the scheduled test date for mah point wingularity projector prototype. Might as well try to harness to power of the Wingularity! :P
/geek mode :)
| 40 |
Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:04:31pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:04:40pm |
re: #32 Varek Raith
Our shields can't repel stupidity of that magnitude!
Charles will take that insanity down! We've gotta give him more time!
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SteveC Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:04:54pm |
re: #38 vanderloon
I am aware of all internet traditions and also of spelling conventions.
Fascinating!
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Gus Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:04:59pm |
re: #39 Varek Raith
Still is. That's the scheduled test date for mah point wingularity projector prototype. Might as well try to harness to power of the Wingularity! :P
/geek mode :)
Teh Rupture is upon us!
//
| 44 |
Mich-again Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:05:16pm |
My favorite nugget from the comments..
Bet you didn’t know the plane pecker bomber have already been to Texas and this contry afew times first.
| 46 |
Kronocide Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:06:58pm |
Sorry, trying to rip off Kurzweil.
The Wingularity is Near....
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:07:35pm |
re: #45 SteveC
Move N, S, E, W?
Directions to find the Wingularity: Turn North, West, South, West.
/Legend of Zelda reference
| 48 |
Girth Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:08:27pm |
Just saw this beaut...
The only one who has integrity is Dr James David Manning. Hat to him!
FREE HAT!
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Randall Gross Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:08:38pm |
re: #29 Dark_Falcon
That's no pattern, that's a Wingularity!
They say that once you pass the event horizon that no reason can escape the wingularity.
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Gus Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:09:06pm |
re: #46 BigPapa
Sorry, trying to rip off Kurzweil.
The Wingularity is Near...
Wingularity has been attained captain!
/
| 51 |
Girth Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:09:15pm |
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Gus Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:09:47pm |
Captain to bridge. Set course for the planet Pameal.
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Varek Raith Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:09:50pm |
re: #51 Girth
up up down down left right left right B A start
A,B,A,C,A,B,B
/If anyone gets that code, ya get cookie!
| 55 |
Randall Gross Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:09:57pm |
ha, the commenters are also posting ATLAH links... that's funny
| 56 |
SteveC Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:10:53pm |
re: #52 Gus 802
Captain to bridge. Set course for the planet Pameal.
Kirk, James T., Authorization code zero, zero, zero... destruct.
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Gus Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:11:21pm |
re: #55 Thanos
ha, the commenters are also posting ATLAH links... that's funny
Cripes. That guy? We had a Pastor Manning troll here last last year.
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vanderloon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:12:01pm |
re: #49 Thanos
They say that once you pass the event horizon that no reason can escape the wingularity.
Moar internet traditions:
This punchy term nicely captures the way that rightwing argumentation has become gradually detached from independently recognized reality and into a state of total unselfawareness.
Thanks to the magic of talk radio and the internet, these guys can talk to no-one but each other for extremely long stretches of time, so they have no idea how crazy they sound. The time could come in the very near future when it becomes totally impossible for any ordinary person to have any idea what they are talking about. They will be beyond ordinary logic, beyond spoof. The wingularity will have arrived.
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Varek Raith Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:12:30pm |
re: #56 SteveC
Kirk, James T., Authorization code zero, zero, zero... destruct.
Somehow, I think Kirk's authorization code would be more...NSFW.
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Mich-again Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:13:58pm |
Pameal is like Spam with all filler and no meat.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:14:19pm |
re: #59 Varek Raith
Somehow, I think Kirk's authorization code would be more...NSFW.
Not for an official code like that. Maybe for some private files, he'd get explicit.
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Girth Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:14:51pm |
Can we just plug these dumbasses into the Matrix already?
We can have all the clean power we need and they can have a white Matrix-president.
Everybody wins.
| 63 |
Killgore Trout Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:14:53pm |
Did anyone watch the Iron Chef episode from the White house? Any good?
| 64 |
vanderloon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:14:56pm |
re: #59 Varek Raith
Somehow, I think Kirk's authorization code would be more...NSFW.
Not Safe For Wingnuts?
| 65 |
windsagio Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:15:08pm |
re: #59 Varek Raith
at risk of coming off totally the wrong way;
yer kinda dorky, but waaaay cute :D
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SteveC Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:15:10pm |
re: #59 Varek Raith
Somehow, I think Kirk's authorization code would be more...NSFW.
You want Starfleet Command to hand you the keys to a starship, you play by Fleet Command's rules. And don't forget to gas up before you bring it back!
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:15:10pm |
re: #15 Charles
Pameal Geller!
Help. I've started laughing and I can't stop.
A typo in the Pamela style!
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:15:35pm |
It reminds me of the immediate aftermath of the 2008 election. There were people who insisted and apparently believed that the reason John McCain lost was that he wasn't conservative (read: bastshit insane) enough.
The "logic" was:
1. The majority of the electorate want a President who is Very Conservative.
2. John McCain is only Moderately Conservative.
3. Therefore, in their outrage, the electorate voted en masse for the candidate who was Not Very Conservative At All.
His own supporters booed him during his exceptionally classy concession speech.
Personally, I would have been happy to have John McCain as President. I liked a lot of the ideas I'd heard him advocate over the years. While I thought he had some flaws, I thought he was more honest than dishonest.
But I saw the Sarah Palin pick as an extremely obvious and cynical bit of pandering to the "base". I was really disappointed. My immediate, knee-jerk reaction was that he had decided he didn't really want to be President after all, and nominating her as VP was the only way he could avoid the job without pulling out after he'd won the nomination. Crazy, I know, but I just couldn't wrap my mind around how anyone could seriously put her forth as viable Presidential material.
Next thing I knew, the entire election was all about her dumb ass, and Bob's your uncle. Ever since then, I've been alternately befuddled, amused, shocked, and amazed that Sarah Palin gained a fan base.
I suppose I shouldn't be, because we invented the phrase "personality cult" for a reason, but that's rather politically incorrect, isn't it?
| 69 |
Gus Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:15:40pm |
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The Sanity Inspector Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:16:03pm |
Charles, check downstairs in the computer programming thread for a funny you may not have seen before. It's long.
Oh, and you other lot can go look, too. :D
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:16:25pm |
Here's comment that blends two types of insanity:
# GMScott Says:
January 3rd, 2010 at 4:06 pmYES, I am very curious too! O’Reilly has been really disappointing on the issue, but expected as he mostly takes a middle-ground position.
While we are at it, how about SOMEONE talking about the latest Executive Order #12425 signed by Barry Soetoro, the usurper, giving a foreign law enforcement agency (Interpol) unConstitutional search and seizure rights here on U.S.A. soil?? AND they have immunity against ANY prosecution for conducting such acts!!
Where is the reporting and criticism towards this latest act of TREASON and surrender of our U.S. sovereignty??!!
Somehow, I don't think that Mr. Scott's elevator makes it all the way to the Enterprise's bridge.
| 72 |
Varek Raith Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:16:46pm |
re: #65 windsagio
at risk of coming off totally the wrong way;
yer kinda dorky, but waaay cute :D
Lol thanks, yes, I am a complete dork. :)
| 73 |
SteveC Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:17:43pm |
re: #71 Dark_Falcon
Here's comment that blends two types of insanity:
Somehow, I don't think that Mr. Scott's elevator makes it all the way to the Enterprise's bridge.
He's a few Dilithium crystals short of warp....
| 74 |
windsagio Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:18:11pm |
re: #71 Dark_Falcon
So much to love in that quote there!
but I have to ask; "Barry Soetoro"? Whats that even mean? I'm afraid to google it.
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Jimmah Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:18:22pm |
re: #38 vanderloon
I am aware of all internet traditions and also of spelling conventions.
But here pameal gellar is not.
It seems to me that what Pameal is about is, well, sort of questionable.
I think she is steeped in the tradition of posting in an alcoholically 'enhanced' state.
| 76 |
Randall Gross Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:18:31pm |
Meanwhile the NRCC and other Republican PACs have zero dollars, they don't have enough to run one congressional election. Maybe they will wake up to the fact that Tea parties are counterproductive now that some of them actually have to start running for office.
| 77 |
windsagio Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:19:12pm |
PS: I am clean in body and soul, and happy! Nothin' like a hot shower to elevate ones mood!
| 78 |
Killgore Trout Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:19:46pm |
re: #76 Thanos
I'm sure there's plenty of money around. It'll turn up just when they need it.
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Mich-again Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:20:00pm |
| 80 |
Interesting Times Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:20:33pm |
"Telephone campaign" against Glenn Beck? Oh please oh please let this woman be the caller :D
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Jimmah Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:20:42pm |
re: #52 Gus 802
Captain to bridge. Set course for the planet Pameal.
The engines 'ull no fire up captain. That shreikin harpy's turn't aw the dilithium crystals intae booze again.
| 82 |
vanderloon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:20:59pm |
re: #75 Jimmah
I think she is steeped in the tradition of posting in an alcoholically 'enhanced' state.
Drunk-blogging is also an internet a Pameal tradition.
| 83 |
Varek Raith Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:21:31pm |
re: #74 windsagio
So much to love in that quote there!
but I have to ask; "Barry Soetoro"? Whats that even mean? I'm afraid to google it.
| 84 |
SteveC Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:21:38pm |
re: #74 windsagio
So much to love in that quote there!
but I have to ask; "Barry Soetoro"? Whats that even mean? I'm afraid to google it.
I did google it! Now I need level V decontamination!
/Everyone seal your suits tight, protect yourselves!!!
| 85 |
SteveC Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:22:24pm |
re: #77 windsagio
PS: I am clean in body and soul, and happy! Nothin' like a hot shower to elevate ones mood!
Hot shower with a female friend. Just sayin'!
| 86 |
windsagio Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:22:58pm |
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SteveC Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:23:22pm |
re: #82 vanderloon
Drunk-blogging is also
an interneta Pameal tradition.
... a show with everything except Yul Brenner!
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Gus Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:23:39pm |
re: #81 Jimmah
The engines 'ull no fire up captain. That shreikin harpy's turn't aw the dilithium crystals intae booze again.
Keep an eye out for Orbicular Trash Haulers of Planet Spencer in sector 21.2.
//
| 89 |
Randall Gross Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:23:49pm |
re: #78 Killgore Trout
I'm sure there's plenty of money around. It'll turn up just when they need it.
The money that's around is in the hands of tea party and special interest groups, they don't get that money without bending over. The people who would normally be giving right now (like me) have been repelled, and those special interest groups don't have enough money to make up for the shortfall from the average Joe republican. Meanwhile, none of the incumbents are out fundraising, I think out of fear of the Tea party crowd.
So the Texas machine is still in control .... (same people who gave us Bush and the Schiavo flap are the ones behind the tea parties. Their "rebranding" doesn't fool me.)
| 90 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:24:12pm |
re: #84 SteveC
I did google it! Now I need level V decontamination!
/Everyone seal your suits tight, protect yourselves!!!
Too late Steve! Some of those exposed have been subjected to so much Wingnutty that even Starfleet medical technology won't save them.
| 91 |
windsagio Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:25:00pm |
re: #90 Dark_Falcon
somebody should have warned him!
Good news is I small a hefty liability lawsuit headed somebody's way...
| 92 |
SteveC Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:25:40pm |
re: #81 Jimmah
The engines 'ull no fire up captain. That shreikin harpy's turn't aw the dilithium crystals intae booze again.
Say What?!?!
It's all Romulan Ale, Cap'n.
I'll be right down.
| 93 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:26:22pm |
| 94 |
Varek Raith Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:26:36pm |
re: #92 SteveC
Say What?!?!
It's all Romulan Ale, Cap'n.
I'll be right down.
Romulan Ale is illegalin the Federation. ;P
| 95 |
Mich-again Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:26:45pm |
More from the comments..
As far as I am concerned the only one looking out for us is possibly Beck and even he has his agenda. Have you noticed how if you want any real access to information you have to join and pay a price. I guess they don’t make enough money. I could join but I wont on principles, their money grubbing offends me.
If you want real access to information you have to join and pay a price. I love it.
| 96 |
Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:27:34pm |
re: #76 Thanos
Oh, the money is there.....
Pastor Rick Warren raises $2.4 Million
[Link: abcnews.go.com...]
| 97 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:27:58pm |
re: #92 SteveC
Say What?!?!
It's all Romulan Ale, Cap'n.
I'll be right down.
Well, like the Chief Engineer, Jimmah is a Scott. Chances are he and Scotty will have finished all the Ale before Kirk makes it down from the bridge.
| 98 |
Varek Raith Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:28:09pm |
re: #95 Mich-again
More from the comments..
If you want real access to information you have to join and pay a price. I love it.
Like...some kinda initiation? Secret society? Oooga booga conspiracy?
/lol
| 99 |
SteveC Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:28:33pm |
re: #95 Mich-again
More from the comments..
If you want real access to information you have to join and pay a price. I love it.
Scientology?
| 100 |
windsagio Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:28:48pm |
re: #98 Varek Raith
They take blood, or fingers. Your choice!
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vanderloon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:29:00pm |
re: #88 Gus 802
Keep an eye out for Orbicular Trash Haulers of Planet Spencer in sector 21.2.
//
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Greater Wingnuttia. I watched Pameal's empty wineglasses ... glitter in the dark near Tanhauser Gate. All those ... moments will be lost ... in time, like wingnut tears ... in rain.
| 102 |
Varek Raith Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:29:32pm |
re: #101 vanderloon
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Greater Wingnuttia. I watched Pameal's empty wineglasses ... glitter in the dark near Tanhauser Gate. All those ... moments will be lost ... in time, like wingnut tears ... in rain.
Nice. :)
| 103 |
SteveC Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:29:57pm |
re: #97 Dark_Falcon
Well, like the Chief Engineer, Jimmah is a Scott. Chances are he and Scotty will have finished all the Ale before Kirk makes it down from the bridge.
I don't see no Romulan Ale! I do see two drunk Scotsmen!
Carry on, gentlemen!
| 104 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:30:06pm |
re: #94 Varek Raith
Romulan Ale is illegalin the Federation. ;P
And that won't stop the Chicago bootleggers, you know.
"We're Big Business without high hats."
- Dean O'Banion, North Side Gang Leader till 1924
| 105 |
Randall Gross Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:30:25pm |
re: #101 vanderloon
Upding for Roy Baty quote.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:31:16pm |
re: #101 vanderloon
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Greater Wingnuttia. I watched Pameal's empty wineglasses ... glitter in the dark near Tanhauser Gate. All those ... moments will be lost ... in time, like wingnut tears ... in rain.
What's that taken from? Gundam Wing?
| 107 |
SteveC Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:31:50pm |
re: #106 Dark_Falcon
What's that taken from? Gundam Wing?
I think it's blade runner but I'm not sure.
| 108 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:31:59pm |
| 109 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:32:51pm |
re: #10 Gus 802
Sure enough. On the front page of the website:
Pameal Geller is her Garbage Pail Kid name. Complete with illustration of her with walrus tusks, eating Obama's birth certificate sandwiched between two cartoonishly large slices of Wonder bread.
| 110 |
vanderloon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:32:51pm |
re: #106 Dark_Falcon
What's that taken from? Gundam Wing?
Bladerunner. I am aware of all internet traditions and sci-fi conventions.
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simoom Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:35:31pm |
re: #63 Killgore Trout
Did anyone watch the Iron Chef episode from the White house? Any good?
I watched most of it -- it was fun. The chefs had free rein to loot stuff from the garden and they grabbed some really interesting vegetables I'd never seen before (fractal-headed Romanesco cauliflower, watermelon radishes & more).
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Gus Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:35:55pm |
re: #101 vanderloon
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Greater Wingnuttia. I watched Pameal's empty wineglasses ... glitter in the dark near Tanhauser Gate. All those ... moments will be lost ... in time, like wingnut tears ... in rain.
Yet those that survived the great battle of Greater Wingnuttia were able to regroup after a long period of famine. Then, in 2009, the returned after a healthy diet of pork chops, apple sauce, and tea on their alien craft similar to DC-9s. They followed the fire of Jindal that helped them set a course for their return to their home planet, Earth.
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SteveC Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:36:18pm |
re: #111 simoom
I watched most of it -- it was fun. The chefs had free rein to loot stuff from the garden and they grabbed some really interesting vegetables I'd never seen before (fractal-headed Romanesco cauliflower, watermelon radishes & more).
Gimme some of that Arugula!
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Summer Seale Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:36:59pm |
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Girth Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:37:07pm |
They've got a Facebook group.
[Link: www.facebook.com...]
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SteveC Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:37:08pm |
re: #112 Gus 802
Yet those that survived the great battle of Greater Wingnuttia were able to regroup after a long period of famine. Then, in 2009, the returned after a healthy diet of pork chops, apple sauce, and tea on their alien craft similar to DC-9s. They followed the fire of Jindal that helped them set a course for their return to their home planet, Earth.
This is a sign!
You got that right - "Out of business!"
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simoom Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:37:35pm |
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Eclectic Infidel Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:38:11pm |
re: #5 Palmer_Eldritch
I refuse to down-ding you. I think your post illustrates very well the kind of outrageous (and offensive, as those who have down-dinged you have proved) mud that guy slings at people unnecessarily. It was dark, but I like dark.
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Jimmah Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:38:22pm |
re: #101 vanderloon
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Greater Wingnuttia. I watched Pameal's empty wineglasses ... glitter in the dark near Tanhauser Gate. All those ... moments will be lost ... in time, like wingnut tears ... in rain.
Favourited :)
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Varek Raith Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:38:36pm |
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:39:13pm |
re: #111 simoom
Sounds interesting. It's on here now but I don't have the patience to invest 2 hours with it. Maybe I'll wait for it to show up on the web.
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windsagio Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:40:31pm |
re: #118 eclectic infidel
the problem is that its also totally 4 months ago > Never be the guy that repeats the joke long after everyones heard it
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SteveC Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:40:56pm |
re: #120 Varek Raith
A conspiracy involving arugula is afoot!
/oh...wait...:P
Come Watson! The game is afoot!
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Randall Gross Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:42:00pm |
re: #110 vanderloon
Thanks kindly for posting the clip from the version without narration.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:42:58pm |
re: #124 SteveC
Come Watson! The game is afoot!
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Jimmah Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:44:12pm |
re: #97 Dark_Falcon
Well, like the Chief Engineer, Jimmah is a Scott. Chances are he and Scotty will have finished all the Ale before Kirk makes it down from the bridge.
There's a new, all-Scottish Star Trek coming out shortly...
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Varek Raith Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:44:17pm |
Nothing like a bad movie quote, eh?
Greetings, my friend. We are all interested in the future, for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. And remember my friend, future events such as these will affect you in the future. You are interested in the unknown... the mysterious. The unexplainable. That is why you are here. And now, for the first time, we are bringing to you, the full story of what happened on that fateful day. We are bringing you all the evidence, based only on the secret testimony, of the miserable souls, who survived this terrifying ordeal. The incidents, the places. My friend, we cannot keep this a secret any longer. Let us punish the guilty. Let us reward the innocent. My friend, can your heart stand the shocking facts of grave robbers from outer space?
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:45:36pm |
re: #124 SteveC
Come Watson! The game is afoot!
Make sure you see the new Sherlock Holmes movie, Steve. It's very good and worth seeing in the theater.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:46:12pm |
re: #94 Varek Raith
Romulan Ale is illegalin the Federation. ;P
If you ever go back and watch the original Star Trek episodes, and the movies involving the original cast, it's rather amusing to note how many times Dr. McCoy employed the tactic of getting key members of the crew drunk or otherwise chemically entertained in order to successfully combat various unpleasant outcomes.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:46:21pm |
re: #128 Varek Raith
Nothing like a bad movie quote, eh?
Ah, Ed Wood. The king of Unintentional Hilarity.
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vanderloon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:46:46pm |
re: #112 Gus 802
Yet those that survived the great battle of Greater Wingnuttia were able to regroup after a long period of famine. Then, in 2009, the returned after a healthy diet of pork chops, apple sauce, and tea on their alien craft similar to DC-9s. They followed the fire of Jindal that helped them set a course for their return to their home planet, Earth.
A long time ago, on a blog far far away...
Turmoil has engulfed the Republic of Wingnuttia. The taxation of trade routes to outlying star systems is in dispute.
Hoping to resolve the matter with a blockade of deadly teabags, the greedy Heritage Federation has stopped all shipping to the small planet
of Kenyastan.
While the congress of the Republic endlessly debates
this alarming chain of events, the Supreme Chancellor Obama has
secretly dispatched two black helicopters, the guardians of peace and justice in the galaxy, to settle the conflict….
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Varek Raith Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:47:18pm |
I seem...compelled to watch Plan 9 several times a year. I tried to stop... but, I just can't!
/useless tin-foil hat.
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Vicious Michigan Union Thug Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:47:55pm |
re: #129 Dark_Falcon
Make sure you see the new Sherlock Holmes movie, Steve. It's very good and worth seeing in the theater.
Jeremy Brett was the best Sherlock Holmes ever!
I'm not sure if I want to see this movie. Is it based on any of the original Doyle stories or is it just a lame script for flashy bang bang fx?
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windsagio Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:50:09pm |
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Gus Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:50:41pm |
re: #132 vanderloon
A long time ago, on a blog far far away...
Turmoil has engulfed the Republic of Wingnuttia. The taxation of trade routes to outlying star systems is in dispute.Hoping to resolve the matter with a blockade of deadly teabags, the greedy Heritage Federation has stopped all shipping to the small planet
of Kenyastan.While the congress of the Republic endlessly debates
this alarming chain of events, the Supreme Chancellor Obama has
secretly dispatched two black helicopters, the guardians of peace and justice in the galaxy, to settle the conflict….
Do not mention the Heritage Federation! It reminds me of the terrible things the Conn Carroll Borg did to my people. Then, after years of suffering. He let us free with only one message that he must go now to see his wife at the Borg Pediatrician Headquarters.
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vanderloon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:52:25pm |
re: #137 Gus 802
Do not mention the Heritage Federation! It reminds me of the terrible things the Conn Carroll Borg did to my people. Then, after years of suffering. He let us free with only one message that he must go now to see his wife at the Borg Pediatrician Headquarters.
Your scifi-fu is the best. :-)
I think he sent her a hologram: Help me ObiWan! You're my only hope.
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vanderloon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:54:10pm |
re: #128 Varek Raith
Nothing like a bad movie quote, eh?
Greetings, my friend. We are all interested in the future, for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. And remember my friend, future events such as these will affect you in the future. You are interested in the unknown... the mysterious. The unexplainable. That is why you are here. And now, for the first time, we are bringing to you, the full story of what happened on that fateful day. We are bringing you all the evidence, based only on the secret testimony, of the miserable souls, who survived this terrifying ordeal. The incidents, the places. My friend, we cannot keep this a secret any longer. Let us punish the guilty. Let us reward the innocent. My friend, can your heart stand the shocking facts of grave robbers from outer space?
Add in a call for civil war and some racist remarks and that's a HotAir comment.
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Gus Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:55:31pm |
re: #139 vanderloon
Add in a call for civil war and some racist remarks and that's a HotAir comment.
Tyrunny!
//
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Varek Raith Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:55:59pm |
re: #139 vanderloon
Wow, you know what? You're absolutely right!
/scaaaarrrrryyyy. :)
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:56:52pm |
re: #134 Alouette
Jeremy Brett was the best Sherlock Holmes ever!
I'm not sure if I want to see this movie. Is it based on any of the original Doyle stories or is it just a lame script for flashy bang bang fx?
I'm not sure about the original stories, but the plot is good. And how the evil Lord Blackwood is able to do what he does will keep you guessing. Holmes does explain it, and the scene in which he does is far, far, better than the normal "hero reveals the villain's plot" scene.
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vanderloon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 8:59:02pm |
re: #140 Gus 802
Tyrunny!
//
You're right. I am aware of all HotAir traditions and wingnut conventions (CPAC, for example) and it needs moar misspellings.
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Gus Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:00:35pm |
re: #143 vanderloon
You're right. I am aware of all HotAir traditions and wingnut conventions (CPAC, for example) and it needs moar misspellings.
Don't forget the random Capitalization of words.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:00:48pm |
re: #133 Varek Raith
If you like Plan 9, allow me to heartily recommend these:
* Dementia 13 - notable for being Francis Ford Coppola's first 'mainstream' film. It's low-budget and cheap, but not too bad, actually. The acting is good, and overall it's somewhat better than you'd expect.
* Carnival of Souls - Pretty short, and was probably made on a budget of about $87. It somehow manages to be really atmospheric, and makes an excellent Halloween movie.
* 'X' - The Man With The X-Ray Eyes - I'll just let the original 1963 trailer speak for itself. You must see it.
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Varek Raith Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:01:08pm |
re: #144 Gus 802
Don't forget the random Capitalization of words.
...and the occasional CAPSLOCKRAGE.
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Gus Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:01:29pm |
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zephirus Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:02:14pm |
re: #29 Dark_Falcon
A wingularity in the fabric of spacetime.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:02:24pm |
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Randall Gross Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:03:15pm |
Time for some sleeps...
a song from the past
(sorry the only version I could find with decent sound is the lip synch one...)
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Varek Raith Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:03:52pm |
re: #147 Gus 802
Eleventy!!111!!
/
Indeed. Maybe I should start translating HA comments into lolcat, then into leetspeak...
/muhahaha, that might make their comments more... understandable.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:05:53pm |
re: #152 Varek Raith
Indeed. Maybe I should start translating HA comments into lolcat, then into leetspeak...
/muhahaha, that might make their comments more... understandable.
Go for it! If it works well, we can also use so stalker blog comments. Let's mock the crazies and laugh at them like the clowns they are!
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vanderloon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:06:05pm |
re: #152 Varek Raith
Indeed. Maybe I should start translating HA comments into lolcat, then into leetspeak...
/muhahaha, that might make their comments more... understandable.
That would work. They already believe that Ceiling Obama is watching them.
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Gus Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:06:09pm |
re: #152 Varek Raith
Indeed. Maybe I should start translating HA comments into lolcat, then into leetspeak...
/muhahaha, that might make their comments more... understandable.
Lolwingnuts 'n' Funny Pictures of Wingnuts - I Can Has Outrage?
//
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:07:15pm |
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Jimmah Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:07:45pm |
Dr. Soran: Facts are like a predator; they're stalking you. Oh,you can try and outrun reason with blogs, dumb cable shows, tea parties but in the end, it is going to hunt you down... and make the kill.
Picard: It's our reason that defines us, Soran. It's the truth of our existence.
Dr. Soran: What if I told you I found a new truth?
Picard: The Wingularity?
Dr. Soran: Reason has no meaning there. The predator has no teeth.
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Varek Raith Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:07:56pm |
Heh, sure, why not. Need some time to brush up on my leetness, though. :)
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Ojoe Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:08:21pm |
re: #133 Varek Raith
Heck, I watch The Holy Grail alotta times a year also.
"It could grip it by the husk."
"It's not a question of where he grips it..."
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zephirus Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:11:12pm |
Punctuate THIS!
Johnny while Jimmy had had had had had had had had had had had a better response from the teacher.
Yes you CAN make a meaninfgul sentence out of it.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:11:17pm |
re: #157 Jimmah
Dr. Soran: Facts are like a predator; they're stalking you. Oh,you can try and outrun reason with blogs, dumb cable shows, tea parties but in the end, it is going to hunt you down... and make the kill.
Picard: It's our reason that defines us, Soran. It's the truth of our existence.
Dr. Soran: What if I told you I found a new truth?
Picard: The Wingularity?
Dr. Soran: Reason has no meaning there. The predator has no teeth.
That's a good one, Jimmah. You took a somewhat sucky movie, pulled a decent scene out of it, and made it shine.
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Gus Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:11:59pm |
re: #154 vanderloon
That would work. They already believe that Ceiling Obama is watching them.
Every time you see ur doctur Ceiling Obama iz watchin U.
//
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Ojoe Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:13:06pm |
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vanderloon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:14:52pm |
Potential HotAir comment:
Barry Soetoro the Traveler! He will come in one of the pre-chosen forms! During the rectification of the Obami, the traveler came as a large and moving Torg! Then, during the third reconciliation of the last of the McKetrick supplicants, they chose a new form for him: that of a giant Slor! Many Shuvs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Antichrist that day, I can tell you!
I wonder how long it would take them to figure out I was mocking them if I posted this there.
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SteveC Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:15:31pm |
re: #142 Dark_Falcon
I'm not sure about the original stories, but the plot is good. And how the evil Lord Blackwood is able to do what he does will keep you guessing. Holmes does explain it, and the scene in which he does is far, far, better than the normal "hero reveals the villain's plot" scene.
You know my methods, Watson!
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vanderloon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:16:26pm |
The giant Slor calls. Live long and prosper, Lizardia!
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zephirus Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:17:53pm |
re: #163 Obdicut
This is a trick. There ARE no buffalo in Buffalo.
Ok, the buffalo synapse in my brain is experiencing dead time because
I said the word buffalo too many times.
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Varek Raith Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:18:23pm |
re: #161 Dark_Falcon
That's a good one, Jimmah. You took a somewhat sucky movie, pulled a decent scene out of it, and made it shine.
At least it wasn't plagued by lens flares of an indiscernible location.
;)
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SteveC Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:18:55pm |
re: #166 vanderloon
Potential HotAir comment:
I wonder how long it would take them to figure out I was mocking them if I posted this there.
OK... so my girlfriend is a dog.
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Charles Johnson Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:19:11pm |
Now you too can Analyze Glenn Reynolds' Body Language!
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:22:42pm |
Check out his shoes in worried about being touched!
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Varek Raith Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:23:10pm |
re: #173 Killgore Trout
Foppishly obsequious
Yep, just gonna post that one!
/Possible rotating title?
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Gus Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:23:26pm |
re: #174 Floral Giraffe
Check out his shoes in worried about being touched!
And the socks.
//Radio shoes.
/
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Jimmah Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:23:38pm |
re: #170 Varek Raith
At least it wasn't plagued by lens flares of an indiscernible location.
;)
And it had Malcolm McDowall in it. No one can say 'Genesis Device' quite like him (although in truth it wasn't until he did the introduction for South Parks episode 'Pip' that we were treated to that.)
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:25:21pm |
re: #177 Jimmah
And it had Malcolm McDowall in it. No one can say 'Genesis Device' quite like him (although in truth it wasn't until he did the introduction for South Parks episode 'Pip' that we were treated to that.)
Genesis Device?
KHAAAAN!
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Political Atheist Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:25:45pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:25:49pm |
re: #172 Charles
Now you too can Analyze Glenn Reynolds' Body Language!
Yes, but what will Tanya Reiman say about it? :)
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Varek Raith Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:25:58pm |
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Gus Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:26:27pm |
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:26:40pm |
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windsagio Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:27:04pm |
I'm off to work, hope you folks have a good night :)
I'll leave you with this OT commandment:
If you like games, or need something to help you relax, buy this!
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zephirus Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:27:07pm |
re: #160 zephirus
Ok, I'LL do it then.
Johnny, while Jimmy had had "had", had had "had had". "Had had" had had a better response from the teacher.
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Gus Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:27:58pm |
re: #184 Floral Giraffe
Well, they KINDA go with his shirt.
Yeah, a little. But they don't match the texture of his pants.
lol Now we're subjecting him to the same kind of fashion scrutiny they did with the first lady.
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Varek Raith Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:28:20pm |
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:28:57pm |
re: #187 Gus 802
Yeah, a little. But they don't match the texture of his pants.
lol Now we're subjecting him to the same kind of fashion scrutiny they did with the first lady.
That man needs a shoeshine!
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:29:52pm |
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iceweasel Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:31:05pm |
re: #182 Varek Raith
ZOMG, she's gonna flash me!11!
/lol
You wouldn't believe how very many pictures of Pameal there are in similar positions with various guys. And she's the one posting them herself.
Iss.Ues.
(Jimmah and I have a collection, we're working on a little tribute vid for her.)
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:33:20pm |
re: #193 iceweasel
You wouldn't believe how very many pictures of Pameal there are in similar positions with various guys. And she's the one posting them herself.
Iss.Ues.
(Jimmah and I have a collection, we're working on a little tribute vid for her.)
Yes, I WOULD believe how many pictures of her there are getting ready to "cougar"!
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:34:37pm |
re: #193 iceweasel
You wouldn't believe how very many pictures of Pameal there are in similar positions with various guys. And she's the one posting them herself.
Iss.Ues.
(Jimmah and I have a collection, we're working on a little tribute vid for her.)
Well, she certainly qualifies as a "Girl Gone Wild", which sounds better than "Shrieking Harpy Gone Batshit Insane".
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iceweasel Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:36:45pm |
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:37:41pm |
re: #193 iceweasel
You wouldn't believe how very many pictures of Pameal there are in similar positions with various guys. And she's the one posting them herself.
Iss.Ues.
(Jimmah and I have a collection, we're working on a little tribute vid for her.)
I bet there's AT LEAST one of this type of picture, for every event she's been at. More than one, if there were more "important" men there!
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Gus Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:38:59pm |
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laZardo Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:39:21pm |
Right-wingers/conservatives are not known for trying to bring emphasis on issues with any factual basis whatsoever.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:39:35pm |
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iceweasel Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:39:48pm |
re: #197 Floral Giraffe
I bet there's AT LEAST one of this type of picture, for every event she's been at. More than one, if there were more "important" men there!
It's excessively creepy. You're going to love the ones I've dug up of her and Spencer. (By love I mean be shocked and appalled).
A lefty blog ran a photoshop contest of her for a little while. I'll see if I can locate the winning entries.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:40:27pm |
It's a game for the whole family to play along at home......
Thirsty
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Varek Raith Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:40:59pm |
re: #202 iceweasel
It's excessively creepy. You're going to love the ones I've dug up of her and Spencer. (By love I mean be shocked and appalled).
A lefty blog ran a photoshop contest of her for a little while. I'll see if I can locate the winning entries.
I've seen a couple of Pameal and Spencer ones...creepy don't do it justice.
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Gus Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:41:03pm |
re: #201 Dark_Falcon
I wouldn't want an "Intimate Evening" with her even if she paid ME. I swear, you can see the crazy in her eyes in that photo.
Join us for an intimate evening with Robert Spencer as he sings all of your favorite Christmas carols with piano accompaniment and chorus.
//
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:41:06pm |
re: #200 laZardo
Right-wingers/conservatives are not known for trying to bring emphasis on issues with any factual basis whatsoever.
Why did you find it necessary to insult me just now?
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iceweasel Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:42:30pm |
re: #199 Gus 802
Intimate? Huh?
BTW, your avatar is hilarious!
Hey, thanks!! Found it somewhere on the web, can't take the credit (or remember where).
Yes, isn't it weird for it to be advertised that way and with that photo? I've been a pammy-watcher for a long time, and there's no end to the crazy there.
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laZardo Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:42:32pm |
re: #206 Dark_Falcon
Why did you find it necessary to insult me just now?
I'm not insulting you. I'm just stating a fact from all these nontroversies that American conservatives are left to trying to blow up to try to stay relevant in the political scene.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:42:41pm |
re: #205 Gus 802
Join us for an intimate evening with Robert Spencer as he sings all of your favorite Christmas carols with piano accompaniment and chorus.
//
Sure, I'll attend. You guys don't worry about this bag of tomatoes. I'm just bringing them home to my mother. >:D
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webevintage Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:42:46pm |
re: #63 Killgore Trout
Did anyone watch the Iron Chef episode from the White house? Any good?
I'm so hungry now.
Oh, and I hate orange Crocs....
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Varek Raith Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:42:54pm |
re: #200 laZardo
Right-wingers/conservatives are not known for trying to bring emphasis on issues with any factual basis whatsoever.
Methinks you need to distinguish between the wingnuts and the conservatives here who want nothing of the sort, yes?
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Four More Tears Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:43:40pm |
re: #206 Dark_Falcon
Why did you find it necessary to insult me just now?
Sensitive man who freely admits to insulting Liberals offended by comment mocking Conservatives. Film at 11.
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Varek Raith Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:43:55pm |
re: #210 webevintage
I'm so hungry now.
Oh, and I hate orange Crocs...
Gonna eat a croc, now are ya?
/
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:44:02pm |
re: #208 laZardo
I'm not insulting you. I'm just stating a fact from all these nontroversies that American conservatives are left to trying to blow up to try to stay relevant in the political scene.
Then please use words like "wingnuts" to make your point. There a number of people here who regard themselves as conservative but who are not nontroversy followers.
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iceweasel Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:44:41pm |
re: #211 Varek Raith
Methinks you need to distinguish between the wingnuts and the conservatives here who want nothing of the sort, yes?
That's actually why I prefer to use the word wingnut-- to make it clear I'm not talking about everyone who is conservative. Or just say the current GOP or something.
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laZardo Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:45:00pm |
re: #211 Varek Raith
Methinks you need to distinguish between the wingnuts and the conservatives here who want nothing of the sort, yes?
Not to sound like a broken record, but these are libertarians/centrists here rationally arguing for smaller government. From all the articles I've read here, there's little if any difference between wingnuts and conservatives.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:45:07pm |
re: #205 Gus 802
Join us for an intimate evening with Robert Spencer as he sings all of your favorite Christmas carols with piano accompaniment and chorus.
//
Noooooooooooo!
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Gus Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:46:27pm |
re: #207 iceweasel
Hey, thanks!! Found it somewhere on the web, can't take the credit (or remember where).
Yes, isn't it weird for it to be advertised that way and with that photo? I've been a pammy-watcher for a long time, and there's no end to the crazy there.
Almost looks like Pameal is wearing a tiara. Sheesh. So dorky.
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webevintage Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:47:41pm |
re: #172 Charles
Now you too can Analyze Glenn Reynolds' Body Language!
"Foppishly obsequious"
Oh yes, I did LOL...
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Varek Raith Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:48:49pm |
re: #218 Gus 802
Almost looks like Pameal is wearing a tiara. Sheesh. So dorky.
Well, isn't she just a spayshul queen of the harpies?
/...? :)
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:49:51pm |
re: #207 iceweasel
They are all interested in Pammies globular clusters, except, she thinks it's the ones above her neck!
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Gus Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:50:27pm |
re: #220 Varek Raith
Well, isn't she just a spayshul queen of the harpies?
/...? :)
Yeah, let's c what teh libruls have to compete against her. All they hav is teh Helen Thomas. Haha.
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Political Atheist Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:50:38pm |
David Brooks reminds us of what a mature attitude toward the terrorism threat looks like...
Yes some may get through. Deal with it.
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iceweasel Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:51:00pm |
re: #218 Gus 802
Almost looks like Pameal is wearing a tiara. Sheesh. So dorky.
I think the tiara is one of her matching accessories, along with the Barbie Wingnut Dream House.
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Varek Raith Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:51:49pm |
re: #224 iceweasel
I think the tiara is one of her matching accessories, along with the
BarbieWingnut Dream House.
Heh, where do you find this stuff?
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Gus Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:52:08pm |
re: #224 iceweasel
I think the tiara is one of her matching accessories, along with the
BarbieWingnut Dream House.
Eeeeek!
Of course you know the sad part? Whoever did that was "serious."
Whew.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:52:09pm |
re: #216 laZardo
Not to sound like a broken record, but these are libertarians/centrists here rationally arguing for smaller government. From all the articles I've read here, there's little if any difference between wingnuts and conservatives.
With respect sir, I do not agree. My father is conservative, as are my best friends. Neither they nor I are crazies.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:53:51pm |
re: #224 iceweasel
Heh! She's taken the "golden body holding a globe" off the header of her blog. It's still down in the "support us" link, but not on the header. I guess she REALLY wants to be taken seriously!
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:54:35pm |
re: #223 Rightwingconspirator
David Brooks reminds us of what a mature attitude toward the terrorism threat looks like...
Yes some may get through. Deal with it.
Money Quote is this essentially conservative point:
That mature attitude seems to have largely vanished. Now we seem to expect perfection from government and then throw temper tantrums when it is not achieved. We seem to be in the position of young adolescents — who believe mommy and daddy can take care of everything, and then grow angry and cynical when it becomes clear they can’t.
It reminds me of what Clint Eastwood said about the decline of maturity.
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Political Atheist Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:55:06pm |
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Four More Tears Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:55:19pm |
The crazies own the name, now. They're the people carrying Obama-Hitler signs and going to Michelle Bachman rallies. That's what people across the country see on the TV as Conservatives.
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iceweasel Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:56:09pm |
re: #226 Gus 802
Eeeek!
Of course you know the sad part? Whoever did that was "serious."
Whew.
The person who did that one is also a lunatic. I hope 'cheetah girl' isn't any kind of offensive reference. i don't think it is, just meant to be about 'cougar'.
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Political Atheist Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:56:24pm |
re: #231 JasonA
You can say or think so I get it. But let me just say I have not yet given up on the said ownership. As I see it the fight is on for it.
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Varek Raith Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:57:24pm |
re: #227 Dark_Falcon
With respect sir, I do not agree. My father is conservative, as are my best friends. Neither they nor I are crazies.
And being a sane libertarian, I'm quite sure I hold some major policy positions that conservatives don't, so I don't agree with calling them libertarians or centrists. I have great respect for the the vast majority of conservatives on this site.
/sigh, I can't call myself a 'libertarian' without 'sane' in front of it. Lol. :)
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laZardo Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:58:05pm |
re: #227 Dark_Falcon
With respect sir, I do not agree. My father is conservative, as are my best friends. Neither they nor I are crazies.
Most people regardless of political bias are actually quite decent if politics aren't brought up. My own mother is a Rapturist, as it were.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:58:20pm |
re: #231 JasonA
The crazies own the name, now. They're the people carrying Obama-Hitler signs and going to Michelle Bachman rallies. That's what people across the country see on the TV as Conservatives.
I understand that, and I aim to undo that perception at least partially. To that end, I intend to help sane GOP candidates win in my state of Illinois. The Dems are still hurting here and I think that this a good time for a well-grounded Republican to write a success story that will help point the way for the party. A way back to sanity. To further that end, I pledge my wealth and time, such as I am able to give.
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Four More Tears Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:58:28pm |
re: #228 Floral Giraffe
And her page begins with...
This is nothing but institutionalizing pure Jew hatred. Everything these nazi wannabes contend is a lie. The Israelis provide food, medicine, and humanitarian aid for their executioners in Gaza. While these international nazis are writing the final solution.
Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn are there, carrying Hitler's torch.....Obama's peeps. Goebbels redux.
Tell me who takes this seriously so I can stay away from them?
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laZardo Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:58:49pm |
re: #234 Varek Raith
sigh, I can't call myself a 'libertarian' without 'sane' in front of it. Lol. :)
Hence, lowercase 'l' to distinguish from the crazed party of that name...
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Varek Raith Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:59:28pm |
re: #238 laZardo
Hence, lowercase 'l' to distinguish from the crazed party of that name...
That's usually what I do, though the sane part helps. :)
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:59:57pm |
re: #232 iceweasel
The person who did that one is also a lunatic. I hope 'cheetah girl' isn't any kind of offensive reference. i don't think it is, just meant to be about 'cougar'.
Cheetah Girl is a reference to a series of Disney Channel movies called The Cheetah Girls.
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Political Atheist Sun, Jan 3, 2010 9:59:57pm |
re: #236 Dark_Falcon
Hey which of us has the bigger job? You got Illinois, I got California. Heh. Big job either way.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:00:40pm |
re: #237 JasonA
Pretty much everyone Charles pokes with sticks, are Pameal fans.
Lots of European white supremacists.
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Four More Tears Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:00:43pm |
re: #233 Rightwingconspirator
You can say or think so I get it. But let me just say I have not yet given up on the said ownership. As I see it the fight is on for it.
Fair enough, and I never said you shouldn't. Hell, I hope you come out on top.
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Political Atheist Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:00:47pm |
re: #236 Dark_Falcon
Oh and thanks for upding #2000.
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Gus Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:01:17pm |
re: #232 iceweasel
The person who did that one is also a lunatic. I hope 'cheetah girl' isn't any kind of offensive reference. i don't think it is, just meant to be about 'cougar'.
Probably that guy Saberpoint.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:01:20pm |
re: #241 Rightwingconspirator
But, there's a couple of us here in California.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:01:52pm |
re: #241 Rightwingconspirator
Hey which of us has the bigger job? You got Illinois, I got California. Heh. Big job either way.
You've got the bigger job, since you've got the bigger state.
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iceweasel Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:02:07pm |
re: #231 JasonA
The crazies own the name, now. They're the people carrying Obama-Hitler signs and going to Michelle Bachman rallies. That's what people across the country see on the TV as Conservatives.
This, unfortunately, is very true.
Even so, the main strength of this blog (for me) is that it's the only place I know of where you get a genuinely broad spectrum of political opinion and debate. And using the word conservative as synonymous with wingnut offends sane conservatives, and independents with conservative leanings, and it would be terrible if they left here, or didn't want to comment here. Or never registered here.
i took a lot of shit when i got here for using the word wingnut, and I had to explain over and over that it's a contraction of 'rightwing nut', or at least that's how I use it. But the point of me using the word was to make clear I'm only talking about, well, wingnuts.
The conservatives here agree with nonconservatives about who falls into the category of wingnut, for the most part. That's another reason why it isn't fair to them to use the word that way.
My two cents.
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Four More Tears Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:02:12pm |
re: #242 Floral Giraffe
Pretty much everyone Charles pokes with sticks, are Pameal fans.
Lots of European white supremacists.
European white supremacists are hanging on every word coming from a Jewish woman?
I... guess that's progress of some sort...ow head hurts.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:02:53pm |
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Political Atheist Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:02:56pm |
re: #246 Floral Giraffe
Need all the good help we can get. Like Dark_Falcon said, big state. Revive sensible rural values. Cut the fringe.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:04:53pm |
re: #250 JasonA
Use the search funtion at the top left of the page, search on LGF.
If you think your head hurts now, well, spare yourself more pain, and don't.
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laZardo Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:04:57pm |
re: #251 Dark_Falcon
What do you mean?
I think it's time for a new liberal party to fill the "balance" gap left by the GOP, and move America toward the 'proper' center. Unfortunately, all the Greens could come up with was Cynthia McKinney.
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Varek Raith Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:05:03pm |
re: #250 JasonA
European white supremacists are hanging on every word coming from a Jewish woman?
I... guess that's progress of some sort...ow head hurts.
Yeah, ain't compartmentalization and cognitive dissonace great?
/
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Political Atheist Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:06:00pm |
Lyrically apropo...
Chickenfoot
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iceweasel Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:06:16pm |
re: #225 Varek Raith
Heh, where do you find this stuff?
Hee! Hanging out in the leftysphere, mostly.
Here's another little trick in case you don't know about it: google shrieking harpy, with or without quotes.
Thank the lefty-sphere for that one!
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:07:10pm |
re: #241 Rightwingconspirator
Hey which of us has the bigger job? You got Illinois, I got California. Heh. Big job either way.
No, we ALL have a BIG job. And it's going to take all of us trying, to get the job done. And, it's an uphill battle. So, do what you can, each & every bit counts.
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Gus Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:08:20pm |
re: #257 iceweasel
Hee! Hanging out in the leftysphere, mostly.
Here's another little trick in case you don't know about it: google shrieking harpy, with or without quotes.
Thank the lefty-sphere for that one!
Really bad Photoshop job here.
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Political Atheist Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:08:42pm |
re: #258 Floral Giraffe
You are quite correct. Thank you for the reminder.
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iceweasel Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:10:03pm |
re: #250 JasonA
European white supremacists are hanging on every word coming from a Jewish woman?
I... guess that's progress of some sort...ow head hurts.
This is a great article that explains the history of Charles calling out the fascists and their sympathisers in the right wing blogosphere. I'm a big fan of Dave Weigel, and as far as I know this was the first time Charles got any credit for doing so. Definitely started a lot of lefties looking at LGF again, IMO.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:10:31pm |
re: #254 laZardo
I think it's time for a new liberal party to fill the "balance" gap left by the GOP, and move America toward the 'proper' center. Unfortunately, all the Greens could come up with was Cynthia McKinney.
I disagree, intensely. I don't see that kind of lurch to the left to be a good thing. No downding, because you are being respectful, but do know that your dream is my nightmare.
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Racer X Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:10:44pm |
re: #240 Dark_Falcon
Cheetah Girl is a reference to a series of Disney Channel movies called The Cheetah Girls.
Or The Cheetah Club in Atlanta.
So I've heard.
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iceweasel Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:11:13pm |
re: #261 iceweasel
This is a great article that explains the history of Charles calling out the fascists and their sympathisers in the right wing blogosphere. I'm a big fan of Dave Weigel, and as far as I know this was the first time Charles got any credit for doing so. Definitely started a lot of lefties looking at LGF again, IMO.
Got credit from the left, that is. I don't know if anyone on the right ever gave him any credit for it. I'd like to think so, but the magic 8ball says doubtful.
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Gus Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:14:17pm |
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:14:31pm |
re: #265 Varek Raith
Yes, we're supposed to go to the low 40's tonight.
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iceweasel Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:14:40pm |
re: #254 laZardo
I think it's time for a new liberal party to fill the "balance" gap left by the GOP, and move America toward the 'proper' center. Unfortunately, all the Greens could come up with was Cynthia McKinney.
I agree with that. Really, the Blue Dogs ought to split off and be part of rebuilding the new conservative party, IMO.
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Political Atheist Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:14:44pm |
re: #254 laZardo
How the heck does a liberal part fill that vacuum in? Two lefts do not make a right. Let alone a proper right.
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laZardo Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:15:24pm |
re: #262 Dark_Falcon
I disagree, intensely. I don't see that kind of lurch to the left to be a good thing. No downding, because you are being respectful, but do know that your dream is my nightmare.
Not to trot out the old "Works in Europe" line, but yeah. America would also hold an advantage over Europe in that field as the basis of American 'national identity' is intentionally accepting of cultural diversity through immigration as compared to, say, the European ultra-nationalistic attitudes of old.
Anyhoo, I gotta eat lunch and head home from college. Catch yall on the open threads.
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laZardo Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:16:44pm |
re: #269 Rightwingconspirator
How the heck does a liberal part fill that vacuum in? Two lefts do not make a right. Let alone a proper right.
The American political spectrum is calibrated right-of-center (e.g. on health-care reform), so your statement works vice versa.
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Varek Raith Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:16:52pm |
re: #266 Gus 802
Shut the door!
/
Heh, I had to go out to release a spider* that's been hanging out in my computer room.
*a black widow, no less. Very pretty spider. When I had pets, I used to kill these spiders, now I just put 'em in a cup and release them in the back.
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Gus Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:17:57pm |
re: #254 laZardo
I think it's time for a new liberal party to fill the "balance" gap left by the GOP, and move America toward the 'proper' center. Unfortunately, all the Greens could come up with was Cynthia McKinney.
Confusing really. I remember many years ago being interested in the Green Party. It was largely about environmentalism and progressive ideas. I would have never guessed back then that someone as off the wall as Cynthia McKinney would be involved with that party.
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Varek Raith Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:18:00pm |
re: #267 Floral Giraffe
Yes, we're supposed to go to the low 40's tonight.
Why you!...:)
Freaking 10 degrees out here with wind!
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Racer X Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:19:44pm |
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Gus Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:19:54pm |
re: #272 Varek Raith
Heh, I had to go out to release a spider* that's been hanging out in my computer room.
*a black widow, no less. Very pretty spider. When I had pets, I used to kill these spiders, now I just put 'em in a cup and release them in the back.
Did you? Yeah, I do that too. That is if they're "catchable." Of course if you toss a bug out in the freezing weather technically it's about the same result as killing them.
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Four More Tears Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:20:48pm |
re: #264 iceweasel
Thanks for the link. I learned stuff.
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Political Atheist Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:21:14pm |
re: #271 laZardo
You conclude that despite a Democratic President and his party in a majority of both houses. Huh. Gotta think about an issue driven spectrum rather than power structure spectrum.
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Varek Raith Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:21:57pm |
re: #276 Gus 802
Did you? Yeah, I do that too. That is if they're "catchable." Of course if you toss a bug out in the freezing weather technically it's about the same result as killing them.
They hangout in a relatively warm, unused shed, saw a few when I put this one in there. They've been doing surprisingly well in there these past few weeks.
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Gus Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:26:02pm |
re: #279 Varek Raith
They hangout in a relatively warm, unused shed, saw a few when I put this one in there. They've been doing surprisingly well in there these past few weeks.
Ah, OK. They'll be fine then. I was getting a lot of ladybugs this summer. Again, I just grab 'em and toss them out the window and they take flight. Don't see any of the "massive" spiders I used to see in New Jersey.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:26:19pm |
re: #274 Varek Raith
Why you!...:)
Freaking 10 degrees out here with wind!
Even worse here in Chicagoland. Minus 15 with the wind chill.
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Political Atheist Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:27:22pm |
re: #270 laZardo
Just look at American immigration demographics. Got your multiculturalism right there. Most Americans have a Euro ethnic background. Add Asian and Latin immigration and you get the truth of the matter.
Enjoy your lunch.
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Varek Raith Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:27:29pm |
re: #281 Gus 802
Ah, OK. They'll be fine then. I was getting a lot of ladybugs this summer. Again, I just grab 'em and toss them out the window and they take flight. Don't see any of the "massive" spiders I used to see in New Jersey.
You should see my brother's or dad's reaction to seeing any harmless spider, let alone a black widow. Priceless. They'd call me just to get move them somewhere else. :D
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:29:14pm |
re: #273 Gus 802
Cynthia McKinney, the whacko that keeps on giving!
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Gus Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:29:52pm |
re: #284 Varek Raith
You should see my brother's or dad's reaction to seeing any harmless spider, let alone a black widow. Priceless. They'd call me just to get move them somewhere else. :D
I was going to mention arachnophobia. Some people have a real fear of spiders. I suppose it does get kind of gross when we're talking large numbers. I remember being in some cellars back east that would make them faint. Spiders and webs everywhere along with egg sacs and baby spiders.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:31:49pm |
re: #279 Varek Raith
I had a fat female, living in some cinder blocks ( lucky I looked before picking them up!) she had 6 egg sacs, just about ready to hatch.
Sadly, she & her offspring, are no longer with us. Must have been a REALLY good & buggy location!
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Racer X Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:32:49pm |
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Varek Raith Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:32:56pm |
re: #286 Gus 802
I was going to mention arachnophobia. Some people have a real fear of spiders. I suppose it does get kind of gross when we're talking large numbers. I remember being in some cellars back east that would make them faint. Spiders and webs everywhere along with egg sacs and baby spiders.
I'm in Virginia, so I see quite a variety of spiders. I've always seen spiders as neat, so they don't bother me in the least. :)
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Gus Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:34:44pm |
re: #289 Varek Raith
I'm in Virginia, so I see quite a variety of spiders. I've always seen spiders as neat, so they don't bother me in the least. :)
Yeah, a spider won't run up to you and lunge at your neck and bite you. They can even crawl all over you without biting you. Takes some work to get bitten.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:35:07pm |
re: #289 Varek Raith
Be careful around tarantula's...
[Link: www.ctv.ca...]
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iceweasel Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:36:25pm |
re: #270 laZardo
Not to trot out the old "Works in Europe" line, but yeah. America would also hold an advantage over Europe in that field as the basis of American 'national identity' is intentionally accepting of cultural diversity through immigration as compared to, say, the European ultra-nationalistic attitudes of old.
Yes, definitely-- and not so old attitudes. Look at the BUP!
Semi-OT: To apply for UK citizenship you have to study for a test called "life in the uk". You study from a specific book for it. You'd expect it to have useful and important citizenship information, the sorts of things you need to know to become an American citizen, and it does.
But it also includes (in the book, not the practice test) many crazy questions about "UK culture" that they expect you to be familiar with. I don't think you need to know those sorts of things to be a good citizen. My guess is that groups like the BUP want to see more of those sorts of questions on the test.
Compare a sample US citizenship test here-- it's almost entirely focused on history and knowing the government structure. You won't see a question like "Where is the Cajun or Creole dialect spoken?" (Whereas the UK asks you, "Where are the Geordie and Scouse dialects spoken?--regardless of what part of the UK you'll be living in.
When I'm back in Scotland I'll post some of the crazier questions from the UK book. I think it can reallybe seen from the difference how much more welcoming and accepting the US is of diversity.
See you later!
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Varek Raith Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:37:01pm |
re: #290 Gus 802
Yeah, a spider won't run up to you and lunge at your neck and bite you. They can even crawl all over you without biting you. Takes some work to get bitten.
Yeah, most people don't realize it takes quite a lot to make a spider bite you, especially the black widow. You have to corner, then touch it to make it bite you. Otherwise they run away from large creatures.
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Varek Raith Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:38:40pm |
re: #293 Varek Raith
Yeah, most people don't realize it takes quite a lot to make a spider bite you, especially the black widow. You have to corner, then touch it to make it bite you. Otherwise they run away from large creatures.
or, they freakout an go into a fetal like state.
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Gus Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:42:20pm |
re: #291 Floral Giraffe
Be careful around tarantula's...
[Link: www.ctv.ca...]
Ouch. Ungrateful spider-pet.
//
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:44:18pm |
re: #293 Varek Raith
Except if you roll over on them, in bed. Then they do bite!
I had a couple of big, red, sore places that wouldn't go away, on my back. Dr. gave me steroids, because he could see the puncture marks from the spider bites.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:45:05pm |
re: #294 Varek Raith
Two words for them.
Fly swatter.
;)
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Bob Dillon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:45:52pm |
re: #282 Dark_Falcon
Even worse here in Chicagoland. Minus 15 with the wind chill.
Here's a heavy trip with the weather.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
Peru's mountain people face fight for survival in a bitter winter
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Varek Raith Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:46:24pm |
Whenever I fell like poking fun at my family about being afraid of house spiders, I mentions this one; From NatGeo. Don't watch if you don't like spiders! ;)
You may wish you had a slingshot if you run into this goliath.The goliath birdeater tarantula of South America is arguably the biggest spider in the world. The venomous night hunter can grow to be one foot (30 centimeters) long and sports one-inch (2.5-centimeter) fangs.
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Summer Seale Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:46:43pm |
OT:
Seems that the British just can't get over the Iraq War:
Sir John Major criticises Tony Blair over Iraq war
I used to respect John Major a bit, but not after this. The fact is that "Saddam was a bad man" is an entirely valid argument to get rid of him. I don't buy the argument that it isn't enough of an argument to get rid of a despotic, tyrannical, evil and sadistic son of a bitch. I wish the world actually took that argument more seriously. Then we'd have less Darfurs and Rwandas and a bit more stability, quite honestly.
Also, anyone who describes Saddam as simply "a bad man" really needs to start learning a bit more euphemisms from the OED. That's akin to calling Kim Jong Il "a terrible chap".
When a leader of a nation falls into the sadistic bloodletting rituals and tortures and murder of hundreds of thousands of people, "a bad man" doesn't cut it as a description.
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Varek Raith Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:47:43pm |
re: #297 Floral Giraffe
Except if you roll over on them, in bed. Then they do bite!
I had a couple of big, red, sore places that wouldn't go away, on my back. Dr. gave me steroids, because he could see the puncture marks from the spider bites.
Yes, it is best to keep the more dangerous ones out of your house. :)
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:48:27pm |
re: #297 Floral Giraffe
Except if you roll over on them, in bed. Then they do bite!
I had a couple of big, red, sore places that wouldn't go away, on my back. Dr. gave me steroids, because he could see the puncture marks from the spider bites.
Steroids, eh? Well, then. If you and I ever get caught in a bar fight, I'm going t get behind you and let you start the muscle work. ;)
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Gus Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:49:22pm |
re: #302 Varek Raith
Yes, it is best to keep the more dangerous ones out of your house. :)
Brown recluse.
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Four More Tears Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:50:29pm |
re: #301 Summer
I understand what you're saying Summer, I really do. But when it comes to my opinion on whether or not thousands of my countrymen should be put in harm's way I can't base my decision on someone being a bad man.
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freetoken Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:50:32pm |
re: #301 Summer
They're having a big deal investigating their Iraq involvement right now... so I suspect there will be many statements coming out from people who are trying to cover their ass in one way or another.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:50:53pm |
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Varek Raith Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:51:22pm |
re: #304 Gus 802
Brown recluse.
I've never actually seen one this far north in Virgina (~25 miles south of DC) The extreme south-western tip of Virginia, however, has seen this spider. It seems to be moving east into central Va, but hasn't been very successful.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:51:51pm |
re: #302 Varek Raith
Black widows are native here. Fairly common. I have no idea what I rolled over on, except it got squished!
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Varek Raith Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:53:02pm |
re: #309 Floral Giraffe
Black widows are native here. Fairly common. I have no idea what I rolled over on, except it got squished!
Black widow are actually pretty common throughout the US. ;)
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:54:24pm |
I'm trying to remember who the author was, that wrote a story about 2 guys scamming using the "brown recluse" as their excuse to trespass.
Likely it was John D. MacDonald.
Google failed me!
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freetoken Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:54:25pm |
El Nino is still waxing strong:
... which means that all of those who believe we are in a 10 year cooling spell are in for a bit of a surprise (if they are paying attention).
All through 2009 the global temperature anomaly has been going up, and when the Dec numbers come in likely they will show that Dec 09 was a warm month, which will make 2009 one of the warmest years on record.
The continuation of the El Nino is expected to keep the temp anomalies during the first half of the year pretty high, which suggests that 2010 will be a very warm year too.
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Racer X Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:54:57pm |
re: #305 JasonA
I understand what you're saying Summer, I really do. But when it comes to my opinion on whether or not thousands of my countrymen should be put in harm's way I can't base my decision on someone being a bad man.
How about when a bad man has caused the deaths of at least a million people, and expresses a desire to harm more?
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Gus Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:55:13pm |
re: #308 Varek Raith
I've never actually seen one this far north in Virgina (~25 miles south of DC) The extreme south-western tip of Virginia, however, has seen this spider. It seems to be moving east into central Va, but hasn't been very successful.
I think an infestation of those would call for some action! ;)
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:55:27pm |
re: #312 freetoken
Please tell me it's not going to rain, like it did for the last El Nino!
Please?
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Racer X Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:56:08pm |
re: #312 freetoken
El Nino is still waxing strong:
[Link: www.pmel.noaa.gov...]
... which means that all of those who believe we are in a 10 year cooling spell are in for a bit of a surprise (if they are paying attention).
All through 2009 the global temperature anomaly has been going up, and when the Dec numbers come in likely they will show that Dec 09 was a warm month, which will make 2009 one of the warmest years on record.
The continuation of the El Nino is expected to keep the temp anomalies during the first half of the year pretty high, which suggests that 2010 will be a very warm year too.
As long as we get rain in Socal, and snow in NorCal, I'm happy.
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Varek Raith Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:56:52pm |
re: #314 Gus 802
I think an infestation of those would call for some action! ;)
Yes, it is one of the few I would actually show no mercy towards, they can be that dangerous.
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Sinistershade Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:56:57pm |
re: #278 Rightwingconspirator
You conclude that despite a Democratic President and his party in a majority of both houses. Huh. Gotta think about an issue driven spectrum rather than power structure spectrum.
I would argue that the policies of the Democratic Party are hardly leftist. In health care reform, they went for an odd combination of mild fixes, rather than single-payer or even a national health service. They generally tried to leave the private health insurance system in place. On climate change, they go for cap-and-trade, rather than draconian restrictions on industry. Even in bailing out corporations during the worst of the downturn, they were careful to keep the organizations largely private, minimizing elements of nationalization. Truly leftist policies would be far different.
In the main, the policies of the current administration are more similar to those of the previous administration than different, but for those where an element of Religious Right purity crept into GW Bush administration, such as the abortion gag rule and gay rights.
Looked at along a left/right spectrum, the domestic policies of the Obama administration are, more often than not, about in line with those of the Nixon administration. (Imagine trying to pass the Clean Water Act in today's Washington.) The political center in Washington, if not in the population in general, has shifted notably rightward in the last 40 years.
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Racer X Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:57:03pm |
re: #315 Floral Giraffe
Please tell me it's not going to rain, like it did for the last El Nino!
Please?
Hey I have not added water to my pool since before Thanksgiving! Woo hoo!
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:57:44pm |
re: #312 freetoken
El Nino is still waxing strong:
[Link: www.pmel.noaa.gov...]
... which means that all of those who believe we are in a 10 year cooling spell are in for a bit of a surprise (if they are paying attention).
All through 2009 the global temperature anomaly has been going up, and when the Dec numbers come in likely they will show that Dec 09 was a warm month, which will make 2009 one of the warmest years on record.
The continuation of the El Nino is expected to keep the temp anomalies during the first half of the year pretty high, which suggests that 2010 will be a very warm year too.
The deniers will still find a way to pretend that AGW doesn't exist. If they run out of "scientific" theories, they'll take page from the DNC playbook. Only instead "Blame Bush!", it'll be "Blame Gore". IT'll be just as stupid, and just as wrong.
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freetoken Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:58:29pm |
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Olsonist Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:58:40pm |
re: #313 Racer X
How about when a bad man has caused the deaths of at least a million people, and expresses a desire to harm more?
RX if you are talking about the Iran Iraq border war, we backed SH during this war. This was a modern day WWI trench war.
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iceweasel Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:58:41pm |
re: #305 JasonA
I understand what you're saying Summer, I really do. But when it comes to my opinion on whether or not thousands of my countrymen should be put in harm's way I can't base my decision on someone being a bad man.
Yeah. It's definitely a valid reason for Saddam's removal, and I agree that more of that kind of thinking would have helped avert Darfur, Rwanda-- but is it a valid reason for the US to have gone to war with Iraq when it did? Especially as that wasn't the reason originally given to us for going to war? I don't think so either. We needed to be in Afghanistan and other places if we were intending to fight the war on terror. No one can be sorry Saddam is gone, but I can be sorry about all the American (and other allied) soldiers who are. (not that I wouldn't be anyway, obviously).
This of course is what ripped the country up for 8 years, and I'm not sure I want to have that battle here all over again. We went. Now we have to deal with it.
Anyway, I'm with you.
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Four More Tears Sun, Jan 3, 2010 10:59:28pm |
re: #313 Racer X
How about when a bad man has caused the deaths of at least a million people, and expresses a desire to harm more?
You mean during the Iran/Iraq War? Funny, I thought we were buddies with him then. He wasn't so bad at that time, was he? So confusing...
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Varek Raith Sun, Jan 3, 2010 11:00:09pm |
re: #321 freetoken
re: #316 Racer X
Extended El Nino are associated with increased rainfall in our part of the world, so yes, it is probably reasonable to expect heavy precip here in Cal this year.
What about snow fall for the Mid-Atlantic? I heard it causes increased amounts?
/I always confuse El Nino and La Nina. :/
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jan 3, 2010 11:00:20pm |
Networks blur policy of not paying for interviews...
[Link: apnews.myway.com...]
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Gus Sun, Jan 3, 2010 11:00:41pm |
re: #318 Sinistershade
I used to argue all the time that Bush wasn't as right wing as people used to say. Of course it went to the extreme when I did run into one person that pulled a Godwin in calling him Hitler. Now, I find myself doing the opposite but similar defense with Obama. In that he's not as left wing as people paint him. Oddly enough they were (are) both compared to Hitler by the extremists.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jan 3, 2010 11:01:02pm |
re: #319 Racer X
Heated pool?
Let me get my towel!
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freetoken Sun, Jan 3, 2010 11:01:18pm |
re: #320 Dark_Falcon
I posted downstairs an editorial from the Orange County Register, which at one time was the third significant paper in SoCal (after the LA Times, which dominates the market, and the SD UnionTribune, which has now shrunk dramatically.)
That editorial (by the OC editors, it appears) includes the most ludicrous statements. Just flat out false.
Yet that didn't stop them.
The culture war is not about data... it is a battle over hearts and minds.
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iceweasel Sun, Jan 3, 2010 11:02:06pm |
re: #318 Sinistershade
The political center in Washington, if not in the population in general, has shifted notably rightward in the last 40 years.
Absolutely. The Overton Window in action. That's why we have people on HotAir genuinely believing Obama is a crazed radical and a socialist. The window for 'reasonable' political opinion shifted dramatically rightward.
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freetoken Sun, Jan 3, 2010 11:02:24pm |
re: #325 Varek Raith
Here is the resource page:
[Link: www.pmel.noaa.gov...]
You'll find lots of information there.
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Summer Seale Sun, Jan 3, 2010 11:03:16pm |
re: #323 iceweasel
Oh, I do agree that the war was badly planned and run. I also think that some patient intelligence work, extra bribes, and a cruise missile could have sent a better message. He wasn't living in a cave, after all.
However, I think this hindsight gets us nowhere and makes it sound as if we aren't willing to take care of that kind of scum removal service which, at times, the world badly needs. That sends the wrong kind of message.
The message should really be: Yes, we got him. And you know what? If you're in his league, we'll get you too.
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Sinistershade Sun, Jan 3, 2010 11:03:35pm |
re: #327 Gus 802
In that he's not as left wing as people paint him. Oddly enough they were (are) both compared to Hitler by the extremists.
Well, Hitler's an equal-opportunity symbol for nuts. //
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Varek Raith Sun, Jan 3, 2010 11:04:56pm |
re: #331 freetoken
Here is the resource page:
[Link: www.pmel.noaa.gov...]
You'll find lots of information there.
Thanks! Though, I should've have reworded my post better, it came off as an anti-agw talking point. :/
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jan 3, 2010 11:05:41pm |
re: #329 freetoken
Well, it IS the OC Register, after all.
Still, YIKES!
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Gus Sun, Jan 3, 2010 11:05:58pm |
re: #333 Sinistershade
Well, Hitler's an equal-opportunity symbol for nuts. //
This guy was nuts too. My reaction was, "what do you mean Hitler?" Followed with "how can you say such a thing and compare him to that madman." Anyway, I finally left and my last words were "you're nuts." I still talked to him later on. You know, neighbor diplomacy and all that.
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Racer X Sun, Jan 3, 2010 11:09:07pm |
re: #336 Gus 802
This guy was nuts too. My reaction was, "what do you mean Hitler?" Followed with "how can you say such a thing and compare him to that madman." Anyway, I finally left and my last words were "you're nuts." I still talked to him later on. You know, neighbor diplomacy and all that.
I saw The Birthers™ again out in front of the post office the other day. They had a huge Obama poster with a Hitler mustache and Nazi signs. I just laughed and told them they were absolute morons. They asked me to leave them alone.
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Varek Raith Sun, Jan 3, 2010 11:09:33pm |
re: #336 Gus 802
This guy was nuts too. My reaction was, "what do you mean Hitler?" Followed with "how can you say such a thing and compare him to that madman." Anyway, I finally left and my last words were "you're nuts." I still talked to him later on. You know, neighbor diplomacy and all that.
Well, I would've fired bottle-rocket cruise missiles into their garden.
///:)
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Olsonist Sun, Jan 3, 2010 11:10:28pm |
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freetoken Sun, Jan 3, 2010 11:10:42pm |
The pictures on this page give some idea of the impacts of El Nino:
[Link: www.cpc.noaa.gov...]
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jan 3, 2010 11:11:00pm |
re: #337 Racer X
They're out at the grocery stores here, too.
Laughing & pointing did me good!
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Gus Sun, Jan 3, 2010 11:11:48pm |
re: #337 Racer X
I saw The Birthers™ again out in front of the post office the other day. They had a huge Obama poster with a Hitler mustache and Nazi signs. I just laughed and told them they were absolute morons. They asked me to leave them alone.
Leave me alone! That's funny. I never saw direct protesting but last December I was drinking with a friend at this Greek bar. Anywho, the owner grabs me by my arm while we're outside smoking a cigarette and tells me almost as if in confidence, "do you know, he (Obama) was not even born in America, he come from Kenya." I was like uh huh, uh huh, sure man, whatever you say. Whoboy.
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Sinistershade Sun, Jan 3, 2010 11:11:51pm |
re: #337 Racer X
I wish I got to see that kind of nuttiness. No doubt it exists here in Texas, but the Austin area isn't so heavily afflicted.
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Varek Raith Sun, Jan 3, 2010 11:12:38pm |
There's a guy not far from my house that maintains a large number of Ron Paul Revolution sign in his yard and on his car.
/I could never tarnish a car or a lawn with political crap ;)
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Sinistershade Sun, Jan 3, 2010 11:14:02pm |
re: #344 Varek Raith
But I can see how people can get sucked into the Ron Paul thing. He seems pretty sane on the surface.
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Gus Sun, Jan 3, 2010 11:14:37pm |
re: #344 Varek Raith
There's a guy not far from my house that maintains a large number of Ron Paul Revolution sign in his yard and on his car.
/I could never tarnish a car or a lawn with political crap ;)
My ex-gf used to live by this guy with political signage. Paranoid anti-government signs. Get this. He also had a 6 foot high chain link fence. And this was like in a concentrated city subdivision setting.
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Lidane Sun, Jan 3, 2010 11:15:18pm |
re: #327 Gus 802
Oddly enough they were (are) both compared to Hitler by the extremists.
That's because the extremists of both sides didn't pay attention in history class. Or because they're deliberately dense in order to cloud whatever issue they're arguing about.
I immediately lose all respect for people when they start pulling a Godwin and comparing current political leaders to Hitler, or any current issues to the Holocaust. It's stupid and offensive and trivializes the very real evils that they're using to try and make some sort of ham-handed point. I can't stand that sort of intellectual laziness. It irks me.
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Olsonist Sun, Jan 3, 2010 11:16:16pm |
re: #345 Sinistershade
But I can see how people can get sucked into the Ron Paul thing. He seems pretty sane on the surface.
HuffingtonPost had a link that allowed you to put in a name and find out who they contributed to. So I started plugging in friends and old friends. A guy I used to hang with a long time ago gave Ron Paul $500. If I see him again that'll be Topic A.
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Lidane Sun, Jan 3, 2010 11:16:52pm |
re: #343 Sinistershade
I wish I got to see that kind of nuttiness. No doubt it exists here in Texas, but the Austin area isn't so heavily afflicted.
True. We just have more of the Ron Paul/Alex Jones nutjobs, if the bumper stickers I see around town are anything to go by.
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Sinistershade Sun, Jan 3, 2010 11:17:05pm |
re: #347 Lidane
That's because the extremists of both sides didn't pay attention in history class. Or because they're deliberately dense in order to cloud whatever issue they're arguing about.
Or they're scared and reaching out for the scariest image the can think of, reason and history be damned.
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Gus Sun, Jan 3, 2010 11:17:20pm |
re: #347 Lidane
That's because the extremists of both sides didn't pay attention in history class. Or because they're deliberately dense in order to cloud whatever issue they're arguing about.
I immediately lose all respect for people when they start pulling a Godwin and comparing current political leaders to Hitler, or any current issues to the Holocaust. It's stupid and offensive and trivializes the very real evils that they're using to try and make some sort of ham-handed point. I can't stand that sort of intellectual laziness. It irks me.
Ditto on that. It's almost beyond laziness and well into irrational psychotic behavior. If I had to word it for these people I would tell them this. If we ever have a Hitler or Mao in power, you'll know.
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Lidane Sun, Jan 3, 2010 11:19:17pm |
re: #350 Sinistershade
Or they're scared and reaching out for the scariest image the can think of, reason and history be damned.
Well, there's that too.
I guess I just don't understand that mentality. Why would anyone want to operate under constant fear and paranoia? IDGI.
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Varek Raith Sun, Jan 3, 2010 11:19:53pm |
re: #351 Gus 802
Ditto on that. It's almost beyond laziness and well into irrational psychotic behavior. If I had to word it for these people I would tell them this. If we ever have a Hitler or Mao in power, you'll know.
Yeah, after hearing it for so long under Bush, I just laugh when wingnut/moonbats say we live under a 'dictatorship'.
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Political Atheist Sun, Jan 3, 2010 11:20:36pm |
re: #318 Sinistershade
On healthcare and the spectrum of politics and options- This administration never even looked at increased regulation of current insurers and medical providers like say public utilities. Instead they went big, and got pushed back.
When Chrysler and Lockheed got into big trouble way back when, and were regarded in other terms as too big to fail they got loans. No big taxpayer buy ins, no firing of the CEO. Just loans. Under Reagan we had a bank crisis and a savings and loan crisis. The response was both effective and unlike what we see today.
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Political Atheist Sun, Jan 3, 2010 11:21:26pm |
re: #321 freetoken
Maybe just Northern Cal. The jet stream is staying farther north these days.
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Lidane Sun, Jan 3, 2010 11:23:38pm |
re: #353 Varek Raith
Yeah, after hearing it for so long under Bush, I just laugh when wingnut/moonbats say we live under a 'dictatorship'.
I just roll my eyes and walk away. The only other option is to find the nearest history book and smack them upside the head with it. Hard.
I was never a fan of Bush, even back when he was governor here, but he wasn't a dictator. Neither is Obama. If we had a real dictator in office, people would know it. Trying to turn any POTUS into the second coming of Mao or Stalin is just idiotic.
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Varek Raith Sun, Jan 3, 2010 11:26:03pm |
re: #356 Lidane
I just roll my eyes and walk away. The only other option is to find the nearest history book and smack them upside the head with it. Hard.
I was never a fan of Bush, even back when he was governor here, but he wasn't a dictator. Neither is Obama. If we had a real dictator in office, people would know it. Trying to turn any POTUS into the second coming of Mao or Stalin is just idiotic.
For several years I used to try to argue with them that he wasn't, but their persistent, don't-wanna-hear-it attitude made me give up. Now, I laugh.:)
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iceweasel Sun, Jan 3, 2010 11:26:21pm |
re: #186 zephirus
Ok, I'LL do it then.
Johnny, while Jimmy had had "had", had had "had had". "Had had" had had a better response from the teacher.
I meant to thank you for posting that, I couldn't punctuate it at all and it was driving me nuts!
Here is a nice one which can be punctuated in a bi-partisan manner (and other POTUS's can be subbed in as well.
barack obama is the president who in the name of god will save our country
Obama is the President who, in the name of God, will save our country.
Obama is the President! Who, in the name of god, will save our country?!?eleventy!
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Sinistershade Sun, Jan 3, 2010 11:27:33pm |
re: #353 Varek Raith
Yeah, after hearing it for so long under Bush, I just laugh when wingnut/moonbats say we live under a 'dictatorship'.
And it's never in reference to government policies under this and the previous administration that actually do have a longer-term potential for increased totalitarian behavior by the government, such as the unitary executive theory, the expanded use of the state secrets privilege, and expanded unsupervised police powers under the Patriot Act and the FISA amendment.
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Varek Raith Sun, Jan 3, 2010 11:30:07pm |
re: #358 iceweasel
Obama is the President who, in the name of God, will save our country.
Obama is the President! Who, in the name of god, will save our country?!?eleventy!
It drives me absolutely bonkers to say things like, 'had had' in a sentence. It looks so...wrong. :)
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Lidane Sun, Jan 3, 2010 11:30:07pm |
re: #357 Varek Raith
For several years I used to try to argue with them that he wasn't, but their persistent, don't-wanna-hear-it attitude made me give up. Now, I laugh.:)
Laughter and eye rolling are pretty much the only way to deal with that level of idiocy anymore, at least if you expect to maintain your sanity.
Well, that or good, strong booze, but hangovers suck. =P
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iceweasel Sun, Jan 3, 2010 11:33:31pm |
re: #359 Sinistershade
And it's never in reference to government policies under this and the previous administration that actually do have a longer-term potential for increased totalitarian behavior by the government, such as the unitary executive theory, the expanded use of the state secrets privilege, and expanded unsupervised police powers under the Patriot Act and the FISA amendment.
Yes, and some of the people who criticised Bush don't care when Obama continues or expands those Bush policies--and the folks who had no problem with it under Bush are suddenly up in arms over Obama-- usually in the latter case they don't care about the real civil libertarian issues, but over issues like the new Interpol freakout meme.
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Gus Sun, Jan 3, 2010 11:33:33pm |
Lost focus. Dumb neighbor slammed the door. Then I go out and hear not music or TV really. Just some chuckling, babbling, and one guy was saying, "OMG, OMG."
Oh brother.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 3, 2010 11:33:49pm |
I'm to tired to stay awake. Good night, friends.
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Gus Sun, Jan 3, 2010 11:34:23pm |
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Varek Raith Sun, Jan 3, 2010 11:34:26pm |
re: #364 Dark_Falcon
I'm to tired to stay awake. Good night, friends.
Night! Don't let the... spiders bite!
:)
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Political Atheist Sun, Jan 3, 2010 11:37:03pm |
Weird coincidence-Listening to Doors box set. "Celebration Of The Lizard" is one weird tune. That guy was going to be a serial killer or a rock star. Thank god for music.
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iceweasel Sun, Jan 3, 2010 11:39:34pm |
re: #352 Lidane
Well, there's that too.
I guess I just don't understand that mentality. Why would anyone want to operate under constant fear and paranoia? IDGI.
Some people enjoy being afraid. Part of the pull of conspiracy theories for their adherents is that it gives them the sense of being part of a select group or club-- the only ones who know 'what's really going on'.
There's also a substantial benefit to the politics of fear, for the people in power who enjoy manipulating others by deliberately frightening them. Look at the healthcare fearmongering, or the teabaggers. The teabaggers have a lot of inchoate rage and fear, and groups like FreedomWorks are cynically manipulating that fear.
A good peasant is loyal, simpleminded, and full of misdirected anger. (matt taibbi article on the tea parties )
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Sinistershade Sun, Jan 3, 2010 11:41:11pm |
re: #354 Rightwingconspirator
On healthcare and the spectrum of politics and options- This administration never even looked at increased regulation of current insurers and medical providers like say public utilities. Instead they went big, and got pushed back.
When Chrysler and Lockheed got into big trouble way back when, and were regarded in other terms as too big to fail they got loans. No big taxpayer buy ins, no firing of the CEO. Just loans. Under Reagan we had a bank crisis and a savings and loan crisis. The response was both effective and unlike what we see today.
I can certainly see what you're saying. But it seems that many of the provisions of the proposed reform do boil to down to increased industry regulation—items such as removing pre-existing conditions restrictions and limiting pricing based on age—rather than trying to fundamentally change the system. Even forcing private insurers into exchanges is more a matter of regulation than a fundamental change in the way health insurance is delivered.
I personally would be happy with a tightly regulated private health insurance industry like those in several European countries if I believed that our government, whose elections are funded by monied interests, could for a moment be trusted to tightly regulate any business. In lieu of that, I look to single-payer.
And I see what you're saying about the simpler methods of bail-outs in the past. But I can also see how buying stock offered a better chance of return than simple loans. The S&L clean-up largely involved private firms being taken over and liquidated by the government, which I would argue is more intrusive than the TARP loans or even the the stock purchases. In any case, none of these policies are notably leftist.
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Varek Raith Sun, Jan 3, 2010 11:43:17pm |
re: #369 iceweasel
I am your king.
-Well I didn't vote for you.
-You don't vote for kings.
-Well how'd you become king then?
-The Lady of the Lake, her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water, signifying by divine providence that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur. THAT is why I am your king.
-Listen, strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.
:)
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iceweasel Sun, Jan 3, 2010 11:45:54pm |
re: #372 Varek Raith
I wish I could upding you more for that. :-)
Come and see the violence inherent in the system!
And I have to take off. Night, folks. Have a good one!
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Varek Raith Sun, Jan 3, 2010 11:46:33pm |
re: #373 iceweasel
I wish I could upding you more for that. :-)
[Video]Come and see the violence inherent in the system!And I have to take off. Night, folks. Have a good one!
Help! Help! I'm being repressed!
Night!
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Political Atheist Sun, Jan 3, 2010 11:49:43pm |
re: #371 Sinistershade
I have no argument with your points really.
It is interesting that health reform is boiling (or leaking?) down to mere regulations. But, alas still far short of the public utilities model.For the life of me I can not see why not to let medical providers work across state lines. Even Medicare is Medical here.
The blue dog Dems stopped the big public option, and utterly prevent single payer from having a shot. The TARP was 400 pages of inadequate regulation that has created monopolies. Go figure.
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darthstar Mon, Jan 4, 2010 6:35:55am |
Holy crap! How do they fit this much crazy into a paragraph?
# goldie wilbur Says:
January 3rd, 2010 at 12:02 pmthe only comment I have, I did read where Beck had to buy 2 vicious attack dogs and had to be trained himself with the dogs. I do think he has been threatened, not him, his family, as he is a real family person. But the last week his show has not had anything about the Muslim in it, He had on Huntsman 1 hour, a male singer, 1 hours, I was so disappointed, but this means he is really running scared. Those ACORN thugs can get vicious and that would scare his wife and kids, whatever, get the head Muslim and so much will be lots better. He should be arrested by citizens and sent to Gitmo and never heard of again. Reggie Love would miss him, Michelle doubt it. God Bless America
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Feline Fearless Leader Mon, Jan 4, 2010 8:38:06am |
re: #269 Rightwingconspirator
How the heck does a liberal part fill that vacuum in? Two lefts do not make a right. Let alone a proper right.
Two lefts do have you going back the way you came. Isn't that essentially what a bunch of the reactionaries want?
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sffilk Mon, Jan 4, 2010 9:55:51am |
re: #56 SteveC
Kirk, James T., Authorization code zero, zero, zero... destruct.
Actually, the code is zero zero zero . . . destruct . . . zero
(from the episode "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield")
Oh, and yes, I'm a Trekker!
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sffilk Mon, Jan 4, 2010 9:59:12am |
re: #127 Jimmah
There's a new, all-Scottish Star Trek coming out shortly...
[Video]
Actually it's out already:
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Mich-again Mon, Jan 4, 2010 12:25:30pm |
So I checked back in that thread to see how the phone call campaign went.. Here is one indication. Not so good.
Bradley Hammer Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 12:00 pmI just called and got through. An assistant said they would not speak about the Obama birth certificate and that it was a Fox-wide policy not to. WTF? I’m outraged!!!!!!!! We supported these pricks for years making them the number one network and now they screw us like this. Why are they standing up for Obama and his American destruction team? What are they hiding?
Call FOX News and tell them to change their policy!!!!
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