Ryan Mauro and the Christian Action Network

Ryan Mauro claims that I called him a racist — I didn’t — and posts yet another one of those straw man attacks for which the right wing has become infamous: Darnit! Charles Johnson Catches Me Being a Racist! Whatever Shall I Do?

Oddly, he includes no link to LGF in his post. And he makes sure no one can accuse him of racism by including an animated picture of a black child with the caption “That’s racist!” Oooohkay.

Y’know, I’m really glad that Charles Johnson of littlegreenfootballs.com let me know I was a racist, because if I don’t fix that soon, it’s going to cause me major social problems.

No, I did not let him know any such thing; in fact, Mauro quotes what I said in the Bloggingheads interview, about his PJ Media article on the John Birch Society at CPAC, and refutes his own straw man argument:

“… [the article] wasn’t based on the fact that John Birch Society was an illegitimate group, or a racist group, which they are. The criticism was based on allowing them to attend was politically not very smart. So it wasn’t based on principle, it was based on politics.”

Obviously, I didn’t accuse Mauro of being a “racist,” I said he objected to the John Birch Society on grounds of political expediency, not principle.

Then, Mauro proceeds to admit the political agenda of CPAC was the main focus of his article. And just for that extra right wing emotional goodness, he concludes with a silly shot at the shirt I wore in the Bloggingheads video. Now that’s how to win an argument.

Mr. Johnson, you should be ashamed of himself [sic] for implying I was indifferent or somehow supportive of racism. And next time you’re doing an Internet show, don’t wear a shirt that looks like one of those giant lollipops I used to try to win at the fair.

Sorry my shirt brought up such a bad memory for you, Mr. Mauro. Next time I’ll wear my purple hibiscus aloha shirt; maybe that will remind you of something more pleasant.

Or maybe the color purple will invoke other kinds of associations.

Since you’re listed at PJ Media as “national security researcher for the Christian Action Network,” perhaps you’d like to defend these statements made by the founder of CAN, Martin Mawyer?

Martin Mawyer, longtime editor of Jerry Falwell’s Moral Majority Report, founded the Christian Action Network (CAN) in 1990, a year after Falwell folded the original Moral Majority.

In his “dirty and dangerous” battle against “militant homosexual groups,” Mawyer has not held back. In 1997, after Ellen Degeneres came out as a lesbian on her TV sitcom, Mawyer accused her of “DUMPING HER FILTHY LESBIAN LIFESTYLE RIGHT IN THE CENTER OF YOUR LIVING ROOM!! … If we allow the tidal wave of gay and lesbian smut to continue to pour into our homes, it will utterly consume us in no time at all!”

In 1999, he asked the Federal Communications Commission to put an “HC [homosexual conduct] warning label” on TV programs with gay characters. The following year, CAN caused a national stir when TV stations refused to air its inflammatory ad attacking Hillary Clinton, who was then running for U.S. Senate.

Over ominous drumbeats, the narrator intoned: “It is rumored that Hillary Clinton is a lesbian. It is rumored that Hillary Clinton supported homosexual marriage. It is rumored that Hillary Clinton will leave her husband upon taking office. … Sometimes, rumors are true. Shouldn’t you know the truth? For more information on traditional family values, please contact the Christian Action Network.”

More recently, CAN protested “Gay Days” at Disney World and other theme parks — events that Mawyer’s wife and CAN partner, Bonnie, says demonstrate “the true intent of these homosexuals: they are after our children!!”

A 2000 Mawyer mailing incorporated militia-like paranoia: “I am not ready to give this great nation over to one-world government extremists … radical, disease-carrying homosexuals … anti-family lesbian feminists … or anti-American U.N. globalists!”

CAN activists today are familiar faces at Gay Days, videotaping “bad behavior.” In 2003, CAN turned its footage of “homosexual kissing, hugging and fondling” into a video tour of the Southeast, warning parents about the perils of Gay Days and warning that “homosexuals live in a pattern of sin and debauchery.”

Or perhaps you’d like to defend the Christian Action Network’s association with the BNP-connected English Defense League, as documented in this LGF post?

It’s more than a little ironic that Mauro is complaining he’s being accused of racism, when he works for an openly extremist, virulently anti-gay religious right organization like the Christian Action Network that’s been linked to neo-fascist groups in the UK.

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95 comments

1 Big Steve  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 8:57:13am

Great start to a day

2 Obdicut  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 9:00:45am

The thing I think that gets these other bloggers into so much trouble up against Charles is that they have no restraint. They knee-jerk at every opportunity, make wild claims, and go full-out.

Charles actually generally doesn't hit someone with everything he has at once. He measures it out. So when these infantile bloggers start screaming in irritation, he can say, "oh, you thought that was bad? I was giving you a chance at dignity, jerkwad" and continue to let them have it.

It's pretty nifty.

3 Obdicut  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 9:03:50am

re: #2 Obdicut

Oh, and what Charles says is true, also. That helps.

4 rurality  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 9:10:29am

watching the Bloggingheads video, I thought the contrast between the 'debate' styles was pretty telling. Charles actually thought before he spoke and seemed to care about the accuracy of his statements--or fielding the hyperbolic responses of Conn. Conn seemed to listen smugly, waiting for a buzz word to jump on and inflate to a alarmist generalization. The pro suicide take on Charles' response to a lame question about the epidemic of euthanasia (one state) was shameful. What happened to shame, anyway?

5 windsagio  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 9:10:46am

re: #2 Obdicut

I think 'knee-jerk' is really apt. The idea of standing against the corruption in the movement is deeply frightening to them, so they react with reflexive hostility.

6 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 9:11:51am

Wow that shirt thing was a low blow, I mean isn't the entire point of doing this kind of thing on the internet is that you can dress however you want to when you do it? Hell I'm freeballing in a bathrobe right now!

7 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 9:13:27am

re: #4 rurality

watching the Bloggingheads video, I thought the contrast between the 'debate' styles was pretty telling. Charles actually thought before he spoke and seemed to care about the accuracy of his statements--or fielding the hyperbolic responses of Conn. Conn seemed to listen smugly, waiting for a buzz word to jump on and inflate to a alarmist generalization. The pro suicide take on Charles' response to a lame question about the epidemic of euthanasia (one state) was shameful. What happened to shame, anyway?

I have to say, every time one of these things comes up, I start humming "What Became of Class?" from Chicago.

8 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 9:14:34am

re: #7 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, when you need to show a little of that old razzle dazzle to get attention, class goes right out the window... reasoned responses and fact-based analyses go right out the window in favor of the blowhard of the day.

9 rurality  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 9:15:30am

Sort of OT. I'm kinda of amazed at some responses in another thread to the retirement of Dodd and Dorgin. Lots of folks here have talked about the GOP being a mess, off the cliff, insane, etc. But, then you read comments hoping that the electorate in these states will see the light and come back to the GOP. I get that these elections translate to numbers in Congress, but until the GOP cleans house, why would you want to give any more power to this group?

10 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 9:16:13am

re: #8 lawhawk

Well, when you need to show a little of that old razzle dazzle to get attention, class goes right out the window... reasoned responses and fact-based analyses go right out the window in favor of the blowhard of the day.

Pretty much.

11 Gus  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 9:19:29am

Where on Earth does this young man (he's only 21 years old) get that Charles called him a racist? The point was that he criticized the JBS on politics alone and not based on principle. The reasoning behind being against the JBS was barely touched upon by Charles. If one says "you did not point out the racist elements within the JBS" that does not mean "you are a racist."

Furthermore, besides posting that questionable GIF he also captions it with this sophomoric blurb, "Charles Johnson brands me with the ‘R’ word. And it isn’t ripped, even though I totally am." With his immaturity already in full light we later find this fractured piece of grammar, "...Mr. Johnson, you should be ashamed of himself..." Sure enough Ryan Mauro, you should be ashamed of himself.

12 Locker  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 9:19:44am

I like giant lollipops. Forking hater.

13 rurality  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 9:21:41am

re: #7 SanFranciscoZionist

re: #7 SanFranciscoZionist

"Class" is a doubly loaded word for me. My father was English and 'class' in that country is a cement ceiling/mine field. And then I have my mother's phrase, on that Mom tape loop that runs in my head, "anyone that uses the word 'class', has none."

14 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 9:21:46am

re: #12 Locker

I like giant lollipops. Forking hater.

Me too! And rainbows and unicorns.

15 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 9:22:16am

re: #6 jamesfirecat

Wow that shirt thing was a low blow, I mean isn't the entire point of doing this kind of thing on the internet is that you can dress however you want to when you do it? Hell I'm freeballing in a bathrobe right now!

Please pass the brain bleach!!
/

16 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 9:23:50am

re: #13 rurality

re: #7 SanFranciscoZionist

"Class" is a doubly loaded word for me. My father was English and 'class' in that country is a cement ceiling/mine field. And then I have my mother's phrase, on that Mom tape loop that runs in my head, "anyone that uses the word 'class', has none."

I learned that when I lived in England for a year! But I was raised to consider 'classy' a very high compliment.

Can I just say that this kind of behavior is tacky, then?

17 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 9:25:07am

re: #11 Gus 802

Where on Earth does this young man (he's only 21 years old) get that Charles called him a racist? The point was that he criticized the JBS on politics alone and not based on principle. The reasoning behind being against the JBS was barely touched upon by Charles. If one says "you did not point out the racist elements within the JBS" that does not mean "you are a racist."

Furthermore, besides posting that questionable GIF he also captions it with this sophomoric blurb, "Charles Johnson brands me with the ‘R’ word. And it isn’t ripped, even though I totally am." With his immaturity already in full light we later find this fractured piece of grammar, "...Mr. Johnson, you should be ashamed of himself..." Sure enough Ryan Mauro, you should be ashamed of himself.

It's become a peculiar mode of defense. "Calling someone a racist is SO BAD that even suggesting there's racism out there is an attack."

18 rurality  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 9:27:03am

re: #16 SanFranciscoZionist

Don't let my mother haunt you too! (Thankfully, she is still very much alive.) And she deploys 'tacky' with blighting accuracy. Therefore, I find 'tacky' pretty deadly, I wish others did.

19 jaunte  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 9:29:13am

After only a cursory bit of reading about the agenda of CAN, I think it's perfectly fair to say that anyone who works with them feels free to be a bigot.

20 Gus  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 9:31:54am

Recent comment left at Ryan Mauro's blog:

Ralph Sampson
January 6, 2010

I think a visit to Mr. Johnson’s home might be warranted. Anybody got his address?

Sempi Fi!

21 Kragar  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 9:32:53am

re: #20 Gus 802

Recent comment left at Ryan Mauro's blog:

Real classy.

22 Locker  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 9:34:50am

re: #14 Mad Al-Jaffee

Me too! And rainbows and unicorns.

Hi Derek. My name is little Cletus and I'm just a regular kid here to tell you the truth about child labor laws. They're SILLY and OUTDATED!

23 wrenchwench  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 9:34:51am

It's a powerful intellect that goes after the wardrobe.

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24 Kragar  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 9:36:58am

re: #22 Locker

Next thing you'll be saying we need to kill the Prime Minister of Malaysia.

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25 Locker  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 9:38:03am

re: #24 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Next thing you'll be saying we need to kill the Prime Minister of Malaysia.

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Just because we have chiseled abs and stunning features, it doesn't mean that we too can't not die in a freak gasoline fight accident.

26 Kragar  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 9:40:45am

re: #25 Locker

Just because we have chiseled abs and stunning features, it doesn't mean that we too can't not die in a freak gasoline fight accident.

I wouldn't know. I'm a hand model. A finger jockey. We think differently than the face and body boys... we're a different breed.

27 Kragar  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 9:46:24am

Egyptian soldier killed in clash at Gaza border

The violence broke out as hundreds of Palestinians began throwing stones across the border at Egyptian security forces, who fired back at the protesters.

The Islamic movement Hamas, which controls Gaza, had called the demonstration over the convoy.

But Hamas police later fired into the air to disperse the crowd, witnesses said.

The Egyptian soldier was apparently killed by gunfire from the Gazan side.

28 RogueOne  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 9:51:51am

This will make for an interesting lawsuit:

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

College Bans Certain Head Coverings

BOSTON (AP) -- A Massachusetts pharmacy college instituted a ban on clothing that obscures the face, including face veils and burqas, weeks after a Muslim alumnus who is also the son of a professor was charged with plotting terror strikes.

The policy change at the Massachusetts College of Pharmacy and Health Services, announced in a campus-wide e-mail last month, went into effect Friday.

Michael Ratty, a college spokesman, said the policy was developed in the fall during the school's annual review of its public safety procedures and was unrelated to the arrest of 2008 graduate Tarek Mehanna.

''It is not directed to any group or individual. It applies to all students and faculty,'' Ratty said.

29 Political Atheist  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 10:01:31am

OT
From stats
Comments: 7,998,452
Today: 390
Yesterday: 2,474

Won't be long now for 8 million comments will it?

30 Lidane  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 10:01:53am

re: #20 Gus 802

Ugh. What a creepy thing to say.

31 Political Atheist  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 10:02:52am

re: #30 Lidane

Beyond creepy and actually dangerous. You might email that in the our host.

32 Political Atheist  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 10:03:13am

PIMF!
Email that to our host.

33 Gus  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 10:03:36am

re: #32 Rightwingconspirator

PIMF!
Email that to our host.

I reported my own comment to Charles so he should see that.

34 Randall Gross  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 10:05:05am

IIRC Ryan's been in that Bill Gertz / WND fake strategy "think tank" basically designed to drop sensational "bombshells" about terror, some of which really don't pan out.
Also wasn't that CAN group also on Hannity awhile back?

35 RogueOne  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 10:06:46am

re: #29 Rightwingconspirator

OT
From stats
Comments: 7,998,452
Today: 390
Yesterday: 2,474

Won't be long now for 8 million comments will it?

I know the whole "First!" thing is a no-no, but what about "8,000,000th!" I'm biding my time......"7,998,458th!"

36 Ojoe  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 10:08:29am

Was it a tie-dye shirt?

Those are so groovy.

37 Lidane  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 10:08:30am

re: #31 Rightwingconspirator

Already done.

You're right. It's more than creepy. I just couldn't come up with any other way to describe it. I guess I just can't follow that kind of messed up thought process at all.

38 Ojoe  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 10:10:57am
39 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 10:11:46am

re: #38 Ojoe

Don't eat the brown acid.

40 Randall Gross  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 10:13:31am
JBS’ current material, at least what I’ve seen, is not racist in any way.

If Ryan is any kind of terror analyst worth his salt he knows that extreme groups often rebrand and change image to fit the season. This is also true of JBS. Just because they cleaned up there sites during this last year doesn't mean the crap wasn't out there and it sure doesn't mean that they've changed at all.

41 Obdicut  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 10:14:02am

What are the odds that Ryan Mauro actually responds meaningfully to this challenge?

42 theliel  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 10:14:38am

re: #37 Lidane

It's people having revenge fantasy moments where they can't seem to stop thinking like a 14 year old. You might remember it, it's when you think that enough killing will solve any problem.

It's easy, fast and doesn't require you to do any critical thinking or questioning of your values.

43 Kragar  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 10:14:48am

re: #41 Obdicut

What are the odds that Ryan Mauro actually responds meaningfully to this challenge?

Slim to none.

44 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 10:17:14am

I have seen Anne Heche, Alexandra Hedison, and Portia de Rossi. Therefore, Ellen DeGeneres is more than welcome to dump her filthy lesbian lifestyle right in the center of my living room, if that's what she really wants to do.

I'd even get the good silverware out.

45 theliel  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 10:18:16am

re: #41 Obdicut

What are the odds that Ryan Mauro actually responds meaningfully to this challenge?

The same as me having an orgy involving Amy Acker, Monicca Beluchi and Summer Glau.

46 Political Atheist  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 10:18:44am

re: #44 negativ

Google ads have irony. On the front page under this topic they are running lesbian romance ads. Heh.

47 Randall Gross  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 10:22:14am

For those who don't know history on JBS, here's a good overview, note that public eye is left, but every fact in this can be verified.

[Link: www.publiceye.org...]

48 Kragar  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 10:24:32am

re: #45 theliel

The same as me having an orgy involving Amy Acker, Monicca Beluchi and Summer Glau.

Summer will be busy with me and Lucy Lawless first.

49 Stanghazi  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 10:29:09am

It's ageism on my part, I'll admit that. But when these young-uns like Munro and Jonah Goldberg are putting out their talking points, I give them very little credibility. Experience does count for something.

50 Stanghazi  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 10:30:00am

re: #49 Stanley Sea

Mauro, PIMF

Oh well

51 theliel  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 10:30:18am

re: #48 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Summer will be busy with me and Lucy Lawless first.

I congratulate you on your excellent taste, and I am totally amenable to Sasha Grey or Allison Scagliotti pinch hitting for Summer.

52 theheat  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 10:31:16am

The fundies love defending their fundieness against their imaginary foes: the War on Christmas and the Gay Agenda. For good measure, they try to inflict theocracy on the masses to counter the advances of this imaginary army of straw men (and straw women... straw lesbian women...)

53 Randall Gross  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 10:31:51am

Nobody like white supremacist Tom Metzger would have been in the JBS if they were worried at all about Racism.

54 subsailor68  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 10:32:05am

Afternoon all! OT, but once again Chicago leads the news in WTH? stories:

Police May Scrap Entrance Exam: Report

In a related story, the Daily Fumble has learned that the prestigious Milton Munch School of Medicine has decided to drop the onerous entrance exams and select candidates based on their ability to demonstrate the proper care and use of a rectal thermometer. "We're very excited about our new student selection process," said Dr. Petunia Pettifog. "It clearly shows that we've listened to all the people who have, for years now, been telling us we had our heads up our......"

55 Diane  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 10:34:24am

Being called a racist can hurt even more than being called a fascist these days. It is not a bad sign, it is maybe a mark of our times and what we are finally rejecting in our societies. That is the good news.

There is no short supply of hatred and insults around. If that nasty "recyclable" energy could be harnessed, who knows, maybe we could move on to other problems?

56 Kragar  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 10:35:24am

re: #54 subsailor68

Afternoon all! OT, but once again Chicago leads the news in WTH? stories:

Police May Scrap Entrance Exam: Report

Tackleberry will be glad to hear that.

57 Pawn of the Oppressor  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 10:35:44am

re: #49 Stanley Sea

It's ageism on my part, I'll admit that. But when these young-uns like Munro and Jonah Goldberg are putting out their talking points, I give them very little credibility. Experience does count for something.

22-year-olds are the worst. Just smart enough to forumlate smart-sounding sentences, just out of college and full of fancy book learnin', but utterly bone-ignorant in just about every area of life experience that matters. "I'm so fcking smart, I've got it all figured out! Racism is the new McCarthyism! The towers were brought down by a conspiracy! et cetera! et cetera! I'm the first guy to ever connect the dots, man!"

What they don't realize yet is that the world burns the young as fuel...

58 Pawn of the Oppressor  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 10:36:36am

Formulate. I knew there was a typo in there somewhere.

And by the way, I was no exception to the rule... I was an annoying git when I was 22. I might still be, but at least I try to hide it better now.

59 Stanghazi  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 10:37:15am

re: #58 Pawn of the Oppressor

Formulate. I knew there was a typo in there somewhere.

And by the way, I was no exception to the rule... I was an annoying git when I was 22. I might still be, but at least I try to hide it better now.

I was too busy partying. I do know that I didn't know shit back then.

60 Kragar  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 10:37:24am

re: #57 Pawn of the Oppressor

Youthful exuberance is never a match for mature cynicism.

61 wrenchwench  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 10:38:12am

re: #53 Thanos

Nobody like white supremacist Tom Metzger would have been in the JBS if they were worried at all about Racism.

You can't trust the SPLC!!1! They won money in a law suit against Metzger!!

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Something of an elder statesman in the white separatist movement, Metzger, 71, is a former John Birch Society member and former Klansman who made inroads into the skinhead movement. The Southern Poverty Law Center sued Metzger and his son, John, in connection with the beating death of an Ethiopian college student by skinheads in Portland, Ore., in 1988. The SPLC argued that the Metzgers should be found liable for intentionally inciting the skinheads to engage in violent confrontations with minorities. In October 1990, a jury returned a $12.5 million verdict against the Metzgers and WAR, with Metzger personally responsible for $5.5 million. He now advocates a “lone wolf” philosophy, maintaining that individuals acting alone or in small cells are the best hope for achieving a white revolution.
62 Girth  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 10:43:00am

re: #61 wrenchwench

In October 1990, a jury returned a $12.5 million verdict against the Metzgers and WAR, with Metzger personally responsible for $5.5 million. He now advocates a “lone wolf” philosophy, maintaining that individuals acting alone or in small cells are the best hope for achieving a white revolution less likely to be found liable for the actions of others in a court of law.

Fixed that for him.

63 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 11:07:49am

It;s pretty quiet in here today.

64 Obdicut  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 11:10:04am

re: #63 Killgore Trout

I think it just takes a bit after the holidays for people to get back into the Schwinn of things.

65 Gus  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 11:10:10am

re: #63 Killgore Trout

It;s pretty quiet in here today.

Sure is. Almost 24 minutes between comments.

66 Obdicut  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 11:10:41am

re: #65 Gus 802

Outrage fatigue.

67 Randall Gross  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 11:12:39am

OT: Watch out for GOP Populism
[Link: online.wsj.com...]

68 Obdicut  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 11:17:16am

re: #67 Thanos

Great quote from that:

The solution is to get government out of the game altogether, and Mr. Ryan fondly recalls the great deregulatory campaigns of the past (leaving out the embarrassing story of how he and his colleagues overturned Glass-Steagall and then watched the banking industry explode in a fireball of freedom).

69 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 11:18:58am

Very slow news day today -- and I've got other stuff going on. I'll post an open thread in a little while...

70 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 11:19:35am

Tea Party leader with the N word sign is demanding an audience with Steele....
Will Michael Steele Take The Call?

A founder of the Tea Party movement said Wednesday he had a warning for Republican leaders: Back conservative candidates or else other states will suffer the same backlash that toppled Florida's Republican Party chairman this week.

"We are turning our guns on anyone who doesn't support constitutional conservative candidates," said Dale Robertson, who operates TeaParty.org out of Houston and helped start the movement nearly two years ago. [...]

Mr. Robertson planned to deliver the warning in a phone call Wednesday to National Republican Committee Chairman Michael S. Steele, who a day earlier said he supported the Tea Party activists and that he didn't think their movement had caused a schism in the Republican Party.

71 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 11:22:24am

Christianity is under attack again, this time in the state of Maine.

[Link: www.wgme.com...]

Somebody call Bill O'Reilly or Glenn Beck

72 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 11:25:35am

re: #70 Killgore Trout

Tea Party leader with the N word sign is demanding an audience with Steele...
Will Michael Steele Take The Call?

"We are turning our guns on..."

Somehow that sounded more like a figure of speech before people started showing up to rallies with their guns.

Just a thought.

73 Taqyia2Me  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 11:27:08am

Not really OT:
Wtax 1240 am is airing the Andy Martin (Anthony Martin Trigona) sp? ads where he accuses an opponent of being teh gay via hearsay from another primary opponent (Jack Roesser) sp?.
Andy is a longtime known pile of steaming fecal matter IMHO, but it looks like he's out-fecaled himself.

74 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 11:27:53am

re: #73 Taqyia2Me

Not really OT:
Wtax 1240 am is airing the Andy Martin (Anthony Martin Trigona) sp? ads where he accuses an opponent of being teh gay via hearsay from another primary opponent (Jack Roesser) sp?.
Andy is a longtime known pile of steaming fecal matter IMHO, but it looks like he's out-fecaled himself.

I think we had a thread on that a while ago. Dreadful ad.

75 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 11:28:12am

re: #72 SanFranciscoZionist

"We are turning our guns on..."

Somehow that sounded more like a figure of speech before people started showing up to rallies with their guns.

Just a thought.

Yeah, that doesn't sound good.

76 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 11:29:13am

here's a news note .... Egypt and hamas exchange fire at gaza border ... one Egyptian soldier was killed ...

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

I wonder if Mubarak is preparing to open a can of whoop ass on hamas?

77 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 11:29:16am

Accused U.S. Holocaust museum shooter James Von Brunn dies in prison hospital, AP reports (no link but at MSNBC.com banner). He murdered a security guard, Stephen Johns, who saved the lives of countless others in returning fire at Brunn.

The media never could quite figure out that Brunn was a full blown wackaloon who was into anti-Semitism, Holocaust denial, white supremacy, and anti-Christian, among his pet conspiracies. He collected 'em.

78 Taqyia2Me  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 11:29:50am

re: #74 SanFranciscoZionist

Yep, sorry to have left out the word "still"!

79 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 11:30:52am

re: #76 _RememberTonyC

Hamas is busy trying to set up another conflict with Egypt like they did in 2007/2008 when they blew up the border fence between Egypt and Gaza. It's manufactured outrage, conflict, and is meant for Hamas to continue controlling Gaza. It's so much easier to blame others for their predicament than to take responsibility for the fact that Hamas has run Gaza into the ground and ground it up into a pulverized mess.

80 Obdicut  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 11:33:27am

re: #79 lawhawk

And if they wanted to attack an Arab state really responsible for their problems, Syria ought to be the direct they attack in, not Egypt.

81 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 11:33:32am

re: #79 lawhawk

When I say my prayers for the end of the mullah/thugocracy in iran, I am also praying for the end of hamas, hezbollah, etc. Without iran as sponsor, those groups become far less threatening.

82 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 11:33:36am

re: #79 lawhawk

Hamas is busy trying to set up another conflict with Egypt like they did in 2007/2008 when they blew up the border fence between Egypt and Gaza. It's manufactured outrage, conflict, and is meant for Hamas to continue controlling Gaza. It's so much easier to blame others for their predicament than to take responsibility for the fact that Hamas has run Gaza into the ground and ground it up into a pulverized mess.

That was the plan from the beginning. Running Gaza into the ground, that is. Mission accomplished.

I think everyone may just be blowing off steam, now that Code Pink has gone home.

83 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 11:36:03am

re: #77 lawhawk

Accused U.S. Holocaust museum shooter James Von Brunn dies in prison hospital, AP reports (no link but at MSNBC.com banner).

I hope his end was painful.

84 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 11:37:38am

re: #77 lawhawk

Linky: [Link: hosted.ap.org...]

85 shiplord kirel  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 11:37:45am

re: #72 SanFranciscoZionist

"We are turning our guns on..."

Somehow that sounded more like a figure of speech before people started showing up to rallies with their guns.

Just a thought.

On a related note, it appears that the great ammunition buying frenzy that started with Obama's election has finally run its course, 14 months and 10 billion rounds later. Hoarders might finally have realized that the Big O is not going to send his ACORN Obammunist militia door to door to confiscate firearms, or maybe they've just run out of storage space or money or both. Supplies are good at most retailers, but with a significant jump in prices from a year and a half ago.

86 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 11:40:12am

re: #80 Obdicut

No direct border link with Syria, and Egypt hasn't let through the kinds of materials that Hamas wants for Gaza. Hamas thugs are feted in Damascus, and only barely tolerated in Egypt, which is trying to make a deal to secure the release of Shalit.

Egypt wants nothing to do with Gaza, which has been its position since the days of Camp David (they refused to take it as part of the return of Sinai). Can't say I'd blame Egypt either. No one wants to deal with that radicalized mess.

87 Obdicut  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 11:41:20am

re: #86 lawhawk

Yeah, as far as Hamas goes, Egypt is the enemy. As far as the Palestinian people themselves go, Hamas is the enemy.

88 The Sanity Inspector  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 11:48:33am

re: #20 Gus 802

Ugh! Anyone who says these past 18 months have all been just a silly flamewar can have a look at things like that, for proof otherwise.

89 The Sanity Inspector  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 11:49:58am

re: #29 Rightwingconspirator

OT
From stats
Comments: 7,998,452
Today: 390
Yesterday: 2,474

Won't be long now for 8 million comments will it?

Another round of comparing the weather in our respective areas ought to put us over the top!

90 The Sanity Inspector  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 11:51:02am

re: #27 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Egyptian soldier killed in clash at Gaza border

RIP to him.

91 Kragar  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 12:03:25pm

re: #77 lawhawk

Good.

92 Randall Gross  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 12:10:51pm

re: #77 lawhawk

Accused U.S. Holocaust museum shooter James Von Brunn dies in prison hospital, AP reports (no link but at MSNBC.com banner). He murdered a security guard, Stephen Johns, who saved the lives of countless others in returning fire at Brunn.

The media never could quite figure out that Brunn was a full blown wackaloon who was into anti-Semitism, Holocaust denial, white supremacy, and anti-Christian, among his pet conspiracies. He collected 'em.

You might want to update your article with the Willis Carto connection.
[Link: tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com...]

93 What, me worry?  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 12:30:17pm

re: #71 _RememberTonyC

Christianity is under attack again, this time in the state of Maine.

[Link: www.wgme.com...]

Somebody call Bill O'Reilly or Glenn Beck

Drunk and stupid is no way to go through life :(

94 simoom  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 3:09:49pm

re: #0 Charles

Ryan Mauro claims that I called him a racist — I didn’t — and posts yet another one of those straw man attacks for which the right wing has become infamous

I'm noticing a pattern here. AllahPundit responded (tweeted) with the same strawman to your last Hot Air Comments of the day:

Allah Pundit:
@Thatcher Turns out I'm a racist hater. I'm always the last to know

I guess they both see, "OMG, he's playing the Race Card against me!" as a particularly effective strawman argument given their audience.

95 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jan 6, 2010 5:03:49pm

re: #94 simoom

I guess they both see, "OMG, he's playing the Race Card against me!" as a particularly effective strawman argument given their audience.

Yes, this kind of tactic plays well with their race-obsessed audience, who rant about being labeled "racists" at the same time as they defend or ignore openly racist comments.


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