Shocka! Fox News Panel Destroys Nontroversy

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Here’s a welcome moment of sanity on Fox News, via Media Matters (head explodes) as commentators on the Fox Special Report show, including Charles Krauthammer, tear apart one of the latest outrageous overheated conspiracy theories — the strange tale of Executive Order 12425 and the Interpol Sovereignty Takeover That Wasn’t. They set it up with extended, fully in context recordings of Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, and Newt Gingrich. All I can say is “ouch,” with apologies to Donald Fagen.

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1 austin_blue  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:49:27pm

Charles-

Is the door open?

2 Virginia Plain  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:50:09pm

Er, what Donald Fagen/Steely Dan song are you referencing?

3 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:51:34pm

re: #1 austin_blue

Yep. But, I’m not Charles.

4 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:52:27pm

“Designing Interpol…”

He doesn’t even read the crap he uses to make shit up, does he?

5 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:52:39pm

Ugh, it’s painful watching Gingrich waltz down that path. I never really thought he walked on water or anything, but I’ve heard him say lots of things that seemed fairly sensible and rational.

6 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:55:29pm

re: #5 negativ

Ugh, it’s painful watching Gingrich waltz down that path. I never really thought he walked on water or anything, but I’ve heard him say lots of things that seemed fairly sensible and rational.

Of course Newt knows better. Beck isn’t stupid. He’s just crazy and even he knows better. Michell Malkin knows better and she pushed the story too.

7 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:55:42pm

LOL @ 1:44, “Guantanamo Gay”. Freudian slip?

8 SteveC  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:55:47pm

re: #5 negativ

Ugh, it’s painful watching Gingrich waltz down that path. I never really thought he walked on water or anything, but I’ve heard him say lots of things that seemed fairly sensible and rational.

Every so often Gingrich says something that makes me appreciate his works of alternate history more and more….

9 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:57:06pm

Seeing as it airs right after Beck, Special Report should have a regular Beck-Debunking segment…
/wishful thinking.

re: #7 Slumbering Behemoth

LOL @ 1:44, “Guantanamo Gay”. Freudian slip?

Lol, indeed.

10 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:59:10pm

re: #6 Killgore Trout

Of course Newt knows better. Beck isn’t stupid. He’s just crazy and even he knows better. Michell Malkin knows better and she pushed the story too.

And all three of them succeeded in beclowning themselves on this one. For Beck this one is especially bad, since he got burned by his own network.

Beck caught in a Blue on Blue! Footage at 6!

11 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:59:23pm

re: #7 Slumbering Behemoth

LOL @ 1:44, “Guantanamo Gay”. Freudian slip?

Guantanamo is full of Muslims right now, there can’t be any gays there.

12 jamesfirecat  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:59:27pm

Wow it’s like that time they had that lady on Lou Dobb’s show who debunked his Troofer claims ON HIS OWN SHOW!

13 jaunte  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:59:31pm

The Great Interpol Parking Fine Evasion Conspiracy of 2010.

14 Randall Gross  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:59:47pm

re: #2 Virginia Plain

Agents of the law
Luckless pedestrian
I know you’re out there
With rage in your eyes and your megaphones
Saying all is forgiven
Mad Dog surrender
How can I answer
A man of my mind can do anything

CHORUS:
I’m a bookkeeper’s son
I don’t want to shoot no one
Well I crossed my old man back in Oregon
Don’t take me alive
Got a case of dynamite
I could hold out here all night
Yes I crossed my old man back in Oregon
Don’t take me alive

15 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:00:45pm

Huckabee just played the guitar again. Why does he do that?

I’m not watching, but someone else has it on and I have to endure.

16 tradewind  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:01:55pm

W.
T.
F.
[Link: www.thrfeed.com…]
So how does the Hollywood left spin this??

17 Stanghazi  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:02:05pm

That was niiiice.

One thing I noted (after Guantanamo Gay) was Newt saying that this admin considers “The rights of terrorists are more important than the lives of Americans”

You know, we’ve all got our opinions on who should be tried where, or who shouldn’t be tried, et al et al et al. But come on Newt, I just can’t imagine that anyone, be them Rep. or Dem. doesn’t care about the lives of Americans first. Incendiary talk. BLAH

18 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:02:33pm

re: #15 ggt

I heard a country version of a Dire Straits song today.

Can’t be worse than that was.

19 SteveC  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:02:47pm

Show this report to that special someone!

From The American Journal of Cardiology

…a low frequency of sexual activity (once a month or less vs ≥2 times weekly) was associated with increased risk of Cardiovascular Disease.

20 Randall Gross  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:02:59pm

I could be wrong with my guess btw, but I found this and it is a good song…

Youtube Video
21 The Shadow Do  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:04:13pm

Totally OT

Dog torturer Mad Dog Vick throws for a touchdown. Now I really hate the Philly Fowls.

As you were.

22 SteveC  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:04:21pm

re: #18 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I heard a country version of a Dire Straits song today.

Go with God, my son.

23 tradewind  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:05:18pm

re: #19 SteveC
Here’s the problem with those studies: Did anyone correlate them with the fact that people who were unhealthier to begin with would have a history of a lower incidence of sexual activity?

24 tradewind  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:06:11pm

re: #21 The Shadow Do
They should have audio and a jumbo tron full of howling dogs when that happens.

25 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:06:13pm

Just another shiny object. Look at the terrible INTERPOL. No special interest groups up my sleave. Ta-da! Flat Taxes for all! Thank you and tip your waiters.

26 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:06:50pm

re: #11 Walter L. Newton

Guantanamo is full of Muslims right now, there can’t be any gays there.

Not “gays” but “gay”. Rush thinks there is at least one. Or maybe he’s using the term in the sense that I would have in junior high, “gay” meaning “lame”, as a critique on the installation. Or perhaps he is simply using the term in the original sense, to mean Gitmo is a happy place.

I suppose we’ll never know.

27 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:07:19pm

re: #17 Stanley Sea

That was niiice.

One thing I noted (after Guantanamo Gay) was Newt saying that this admin considers “The rights of terrorists are more important than the lives of Americans”

You know, we’ve all got our opinions on who should be tried where, or who shouldn’t be tried, et al et al et al. But come on Newt, I just can’t imagine that anyone, be them Rep. or Dem. doesn’t care about the lives of Americans first. Incendiary talk. BLAH

Only if American’s vote for them. I have no illusions about that any more.

28 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:07:23pm

re: #23 tradewind

Not to mention many meds for heart disease, blood pressure, etc. effects…er…Bob.

29 The Shadow Do  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:07:25pm

re: #24 tradewind

They should have audio and a jumbo tron full of howling dogs when that happens.

Yes, that would be greatness

14-7 Boys now by the way.

30 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:07:37pm

re: #26 Slumbering Behemoth

Not “gays” but “gay”. Rush thinks there is at least one. Or maybe he’s using the term in the sense that I would have in junior high, “gay” meaning “lame”, as a critique on the installation. Or perhaps he is simply using the term in the original sense, to mean Gitmo is a happy place.

I suppose we’ll never know.

…or he seems to just have Teh Ghey on his mind…
/

31 What, me worry?  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:07:43pm

re: #5 negativ

Ugh, it’s painful watching Gingrich waltz down that path. I never really thought he walked on water or anything, but I’ve heard him say lots of things that seemed fairly sensible and rational.

The man is amazing on Israel. He understands the crisis probably better than any American politician.

32 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:08:12pm

re: #18 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I heard a country version of a Dire Straits song today.

Can’t be worse than that was.

He is just such a nerd. It is painful to watch.

Like when Karl Rove tried to dance with the rapper.

33 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:08:24pm

re: #21 The Shadow Do

Totally OT

Dog torturer Mad Dog Vick throws for a touchdown. Now I really hate the Philly Fowls.

As you were.

Which Dallas promptly has answered. Cowboys 14, Eagles 7. Go Cowboys!

34 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:09:23pm

re: #26 Slumbering Behemoth

Not “gays” but “gay”. Rush thinks there is at least one. Or maybe he’s using the term in the sense that I would have in junior high, “gay” meaning “lame”, as a critique on the installation. Or perhaps he is simply using the term in the original sense, to mean Gitmo is a happy place.

I suppose we’ll never know.

Wait, you would have used that term that way in Junior High? You can’t be that young. We didn’t start hearing that word used that way until the 90s.

35 fizzlogic  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:09:28pm

Come on, Beck was only asking “why?” … what’s wrong with asking questions?

/// Cartman

36 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:09:48pm

6.5 earhquake off of California coast. Anyone here in Cali feel it?

37 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:10:23pm

re: #35 trendsurfer

Come on, Beck was only asking “why?” … what’s wrong with asking questions?

/// Cartman

Go dance with a smurf. ;)

38 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:10:26pm

Fox is on in the background, I have to leave the room. That means leaving the computer. Going to the land of Science Fiction and Laundry.

BBiab.

39 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:10:55pm

re: #37 Dark_Falcon

Go dance with a smurf. ;)

Sharm’s not here at the moment.
///:)

40 tradewind  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:11:06pm

re: #26 Slumbering Behemoth
Given that a group of Gitmoees are suing for the right to remain in place rather than be outsourced to Illinois, maybe ’ happy place ’ is not so farfetched. Relatively speaking, of course.////

41 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:11:45pm

re: #38 ggt

The land of Science Fiction and Laundry.
I’m stealing that!

42 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:11:52pm

re: #13 jaunte

He’s given them the same sekrit powers as the Swiss Delegation. The Swiss, man! Can his horrible reign of tyranny get any more frightening?

43 tradewind  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:12:17pm

re: #38 ggt
Be still and learn tolerance, Grasshopper.

44 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:12:20pm

re: #41 Floral Giraffe
Me too.

45 SteveC  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:13:20pm

re: #23 tradewind

Here’s the problem with those studies: Did anyone correlate them with the fact that people who were unhealthier to begin with would have a history of a lower incidence of sexual activity?

It looks like they did. The base group for the study was men who had participated in a previous study:

Although erectile dysfunction (ED) is considered a well-established risk factor for cardiovascular disease (CVD), few studies have investigated whether other aspects of sexual function might predict CVD independently of ED. In a longitudinal, population-based study of community-dwelling men participating in the Massachusetts Male Aging Study, we examined sexual function variables (including ED) and the subsequent development of CVD.

46 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:13:56pm

re: #34 Escaped Hillbilly

Wait, you would have used that term that way in Junior High? You can’t be that young. We didn’t start hearing that word used that way until the 90s.

’80s for my crowd.

47 fizzlogic  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:14:35pm

re: #37 Dark_Falcon

I haven’t looked until now to see if that episode has been added to the South Park site:

[Link: www.southparkstudios.com…]

For those who never saw it.

48 metrolibertarian  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:15:27pm

re: #33 Dark_Falcon

The question I have is, if the Eagles win, will Michael Vick drown Andy Reid instead of pouring Gatorade on him as is customary?

49 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:15:50pm

re: #40 tradewind

Halal meals, beachfront location, tropical weather, water sports. Our stateside prisoners wish they had it so good.

50 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:16:10pm

re: #48 metrolibertarian

Most likely.

51 tradewind  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:18:00pm

re: #45 SteveC
Well there ya go…. the reason they don’t have as much sex is because of preexisting ED, which is a predictor in many cases of CVD….? whatev.
In any case, an ounce of prevention…
always the best path, it would seem.
And way more fun.

52 The Shadow Do  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:18:53pm

re: #48 metrolibertarian

The question I have is, if the Eagles win, will Michael Vick drown Andy Reid instead of pouring Gatorade on him as is customary?

Would he lose his “Most Courageous Player” award if he did?

53 metrolibertarian  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:19:51pm

Eric Stangel’s commentary via twitter on the playoff games is better than the crap from CBS and NBC:

NFL- McNabb just 1/5 for 2 yards & 39.6 rating. Up in luxury suite Bush just said, “I would kill for a rating that high”

54 metrolibertarian  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:20:11pm

re: #52 The Shadow Do

Would he lose his “Most Courageous Player” award if he did?

I suspect the Eagles would give him the team MVP award.

55 SteveC  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:21:05pm

re: #51 tradewind

Well there ya go… the reason they don’t have as much sex is because of preexisting ED, which is a predictor in many cases of CVD…? whatev.
In any case, an ounce of prevention…
always the best path, it would seem.
And way more fun.

Why so serious? :)

Take it for what I posted it for - a prescription for bedroom sports! :D

56 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:21:19pm

re: #54 metrolibertarian

I suspect the Eagles would give him the team MVP award.

So far, it’s not looking like that will be an issue. Cowboys just got an FG. They now lead 17-7.

57 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:21:47pm

re: #49 Slumbering Behemoth

Please, I know you’re joking. But Campo Xray is NOT pleasant.

58 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:22:50pm

re: #57 Escaped Hillbilly

At least you can tell I’m joking. Peace out, got stuffs to do.

59 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:22:59pm

re: #55 SteveC

But what does it do for women. Come on man! Help or hurt?

60 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:23:14pm

re: #58 Slumbering Behemoth

night

61 metrolibertarian  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:24:09pm

re: #56 Dark_Falcon

Seriously, that rookie kicker from USC might be the MVP of this game for the Cowboys. How many touchbacks has he kicked already? Three?

62 SteveC  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:24:41pm

re: #59 Escaped Hillbilly

But what does it do for women. Come on man! Help or hurt?

This is all about participation - the ladies can play, too! And there is always the chance to improve your male/female interpersonal relationship skills!

63 The Shadow Do  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:25:50pm

re: #61 metrolibertarian

Seriously, that rookie kicker from USC might be the MVP of this game for the Cowboys. How many touchbacks has he kicked already? Three?

Lead the league in that department. Awesome kicker.

64 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:26:16pm

Dallas recovers a fumble inside the 20! Go, Dallas, go!

65 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:26:36pm

re: #62 SteveC

British complement, that!

66 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:27:14pm

re: #64 Dark_Falcon

Dallas recovers a fumble inside the 20! Go, Dallas, go!

*Boo! Hisss!!!*
/…:P

67 metrolibertarian  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:27:20pm

re: #63 The Shadow Do

Lead the league in that department. Awesome kicker.

That’s something that frustrated me. Why the hell isn’t he kicking field goals? Is he not accurate or something? He’s clearly got the leg.

68 Linden Arden  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:27:57pm

FWIW, another nontroversy from the far right is the news item that the right claims exempts Interpol from Constitutional restraints.

Jake Tapper of ABC News squashes that idiocy link

Yet blogs are still flapping about Interpol taking over America.

69 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:28:20pm

re: #66 Varek Raith

[Dark_Falcon throws a snowball at the Eagles fan.]

70 The Shadow Do  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:28:43pm

re: #67 metrolibertarian

That’s something that frustrated me. Why the hell isn’t he kicking field goals? Is he not accurate or something? He’s clearly got the leg.

Horrible field goal man. Go figure.

71 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:29:58pm

re: #69 Dark_Falcon

[Dark_Falcon throws a snowball at the Eagles fan.]

Throws a snowball at Dark_Falcon for insinuating that Varek is an Eagles fan.

Actually, I’m not a football fan. My parents, though, hate the Cowboys and the Eagles… They’re Redskins fans.

72 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:30:16pm

Touchdown on Romo throw to Miles Austin! Cowboys now lead 24-7.

73 austin_blue  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:30:35pm

re: #69 Dark_Falcon

[Dark_Falcon throws a snowball at the Eagles fan.]

((Philly fan picks up snowball, puts a D-cell in it and hurls it back…..))

24-7, Pokes.

74 metrolibertarian  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:31:01pm

re: #71 Varek Raith

Throws a snowball at Dark_Falcon for insinuating that Varek is an Eagles fan.

Actually, I’m not a football fan. My parents, though, hate the Cowboys and the Eagles… They’re Redskins fans.

I feel so sorry for your parents. What did they do to warrant such the unjust punishment of being a Redskins fan?

75 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:31:57pm

re: #71 Varek Raith

Throws a snowball at Dark_Falcon for insinuating that Varek is an Eagles fan.

Actually, I’m not a football fan. My parents, though, hate the Cowboys and the Eagles… They’re Redskins fans.

[Dark_Falcon runs Varek Raith down and buries him headfirst in the snow.]

/still kidding.

76 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:31:57pm

re: #74 metrolibertarian

I feel so sorry for your parents. What did they do to warrant such the unjust punishment of being a Redskins fan?

They’ve been fans since waaayyy before I was born. So… way more than 26 years. :)

77 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:32:13pm

re: #72 Dark_Falcon

Touchdown on Romo throw to Miles Austin! Cowboys now lead 24-7.

Cowboys look solid..
Not Colts solid..but solid

78 The Shadow Do  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:32:19pm

re: #72 Dark_Falcon

Touchdown on Romo throw to Miles Austin! Cowboys now lead 24-7.

Put Vick on a dog leash and run him around the stadium in celebration!

79 The Shadow Do  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:34:05pm

re: #77 HoosierHoops

Cowboys look solid..
Not Colts solid..but solid

Yes, Colts solid. Heads up Indy man!

80 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:36:27pm

re: #78 The Shadow Do

Put Vick on a dog leash and run him around the stadium in celebration!

Quite concur! Vick should be publicly humiliated, although it looks like the Cowboys will take care of that. Weaver fumbles and Dallas recovers.

81 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:36:48pm

re: #80 Dark_Falcon

Quite concur! Vick should be publicly humiliated, although it looks like the Cowboys will take care of that. Weaver fumbles and Dallas recovers.

Correction: play under review.

82 austin_blue  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:37:56pm

re: #74 metrolibertarian

I feel so sorry for your parents. What did they do to warrant such the unjust punishment of being a Redskins fan?

It was an accident of birth for me. Try being a Deadskins fan in Texas. Harsh.

Fumble! Dallas D looks really tough tonight. They match up well with the Iggles.

83 metrolibertarian  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:39:53pm

re: #76 Varek Raith

Sounds like my father, though instead of the Redskins, it’s Arsenal FC, and judging from stuff he had as a child, it’s been a fanaticism that’s been going on longer than the 27 years I’ve been around.

84 metrolibertarian  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:40:17pm

re: #82 austin_blue

I was a Cowboys fan in Bucks County, PA, which is all of 30 minutes away from Philly.

85 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:40:51pm

re: #80 Dark_Falcon

Quite concur! Vick should be publicly humiliated, although it looks like the Cowboys will take care of that. Weaver fumbles and Dallas recovers.

Hey my bro..Vick did his time in prison.. I’m sure he cried himself to sleep every night for at least a year..He paid the price…
He learned a hard lesson…What he did was beyond the pale..But
I forgive him

86 The Shadow Do  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:42:48pm

re: #85 HoosierHoops

Hey my bro..Vick did his time in prison.. I’m sure he cried himself to sleep every night for at least a year..He paid the price…
He learned a hard lesson…What he did was beyond the pale..But
I forgive him


Good that he paid the price. That does not change the kind of human being he obviously is. Fuck him.

87 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:43:22pm

re: #85 HoosierHoops

It was very difficult for me, but I wish him the best now.

88 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:45:50pm

re: #68 Linden Arden

On June 16, 1983, President Reagan signed Executive Order 12425, which designated the International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL) as a public international organization entitled to enjoy the privileges, exemptions and immunities conferred by the International Organizations Immunities Act.

You’d think somebody would have noticed that point eh?

89 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:48:09pm

And Dallas gets a field goal with 2 seconds left in the half. Dallas leads by 20, 27-7.

90 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:48:35pm

There are alot of happy cowboy fans at halftime

91 Gus  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:49:23pm

We now await for a retraction from Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Newt Gingrich, and Bill O’Reilly.

[crickets]

92 metrolibertarian  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:49:24pm

re: #90 HoosierHoops

The Cowboys have had the ball for 80% of the game so far. I fucking love it.

93 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:50:09pm

re: #91 Gus 802

We now await for a retraction from Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Newt Gingrich, and Bill O’Reilly.

[crickets]

Sorry, Gus, not even the crickets are going to come out for that one. :)

94 Gus  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:56:59pm

re: #93 Varek Raith

Sorry, Gus, not even the crickets are going to come out for that one. :)

Yeah, they’ll morph it into the usual “diplomatic immunity/parking tickets/UN” kvetching.

I tell you, watching and listening to those clips was like watching a train wreck. Jumping the gun is putting it lightly and Newt Gingrich should know better.

95 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:59:20pm

re: #94 Gus 802

Yeah, they’ll morph it into the usual “diplomatic immunity/parking tickets/UN” kvetching.

I tell you, watching and listening to those clips was like watching a train wreck. Jumping the gun is putting it lightly and Newt Gingrich should know better.

Newt, Beck and O’rly jumped, missed the shark and ended up in low orbit.

96 Gus  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 7:01:50pm

re: #95 Varek Raith

Newt, Beck and O’rly jumped, missed the shark and ended up in low orbit.

Some like Beck have entered orbit in a craft not built for re-entry and are now in permanent orbit with not chance of safely returning to Earth.

/Ground control to Glenn Beck. Come in please.

/

97 metrolibertarian  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 7:04:07pm

re: #96 Gus 802

Ground Control to Major Beck your brain is dead, can you hear me Major Beck? Can you hear me Major Beck?

98 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 7:07:38pm

re: #97 metrolibertarian

Ground Control to Major Beck your brain is dead, can you hear me Major Beck? Can you hear me Major Beck?

We’ll send Captain Admiral Paul Watson up to save ya!

99 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 7:07:57pm

re: #97 metrolibertarian

Ground Control to Major Beck your brain is dead, can you hear me Major Beck? Can you hear me Major Beck?

Facts below him, drifting falling.
Floating weightless, drifting, going nuts!

100 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 7:18:11pm

re: #98 Varek Raith

“If you do not know an answer, a fact, or a statistic, then simply follow the example of an American President and do as Ronald Reagan did—make it up on the spot and deliver the information confidently and without hesitation.”

Think they may already be in contact.

101 irving  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 7:44:24pm

Wow. FOX actually debunked a conspiracy theory on the air?

Somebody drop a rock or something to make sure that gravity still works.

102 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 7:49:18pm

re: #101 irving

Wow. FOX actually debunked a conspiracy theory on the air?

Somebody drop a rock or something to make sure that gravity still works.

…shit…the rock is floating…
/I think I see the 4 Horsemen outside my window… Gonna give ‘em a some beer.

103 Gus  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 8:05:47pm

Watching the “3rd Track” thinkers at Twitter and here’s some recent samples regarding the Interpol story:

Obama Unleashes International Cops On The United States!

INTERPOL’s explanation for immunity doesn’t cut it!

NRO: Obama takes America down another notch with an unnecessary, reckless Interpol act!

Interpol, In Your Midst!

GOVT WATCH**=> #Obama’s INTERPOL ExecutiveOrder harmless?!

BHO said he wants internal fed police. Be4 Fox All Stars comment on INTERPOL they should re-read this!

Braindead.

104 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 8:09:22pm

re: #103 Gus 802

Watching the “3rd Track” thinkers at Twitter and here’s some recent samples regarding the Interpol story:

Braindead.

I think this pic accurately portrays these…fools.

105 Gus  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 8:22:13pm

Obama’s Executive Order:

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act (22 U.S.C. 288), and in order to extend the appropriate privileges, exemptions, and immunities to the International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL), it is hereby ordered that Executive Order 12425 of June 16, 1983, as amended, is further amended by deleting from the first sentence the words “except those provided by Section 2(c), Section 3, Section 4, Section 5, and Section 6 of that Act” and the semicolon that immediately precedes them.

Which makes Reagan’s Executive Order:

By virtue of the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and statutes of the United States, including Section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act (59 Stat. 669, 22 U.S.C. 288), it is hereby ordered that the International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL), in which the United States participates pursuant to 22 U.S.C. 263a, is hereby designated as a public international organization entitled to enjoy the privileges, exemptions and immunities conferred by the International Organizations Immunities Act; except those provided by Section 2(c), the portions of Section 2(d) and Section 3 relating to customs duties and federal internal-revenue importation taxes, Section 4, Section 5, and Section 6 of that Act. This designation is not intended to abridge in any respect the privileges, exemptions or immunities which such organization may have acquired or may acquire by international agreement or by Congressional action.

Now reads like this:

By virtue of the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and statutes of the United States, including Section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act (59 Stat. 669, 22 U.S.C. 288), it is hereby ordered that the International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL), in which the United States participates pursuant to 22 U.S.C. 263a, is hereby designated as a public international organization entitled to enjoy the privileges, exemptions and immunities conferred by the International Organizations Immunities Act; except those provided by Section 2(c), the portions of Section 2(d) and Section 3 relating to customs duties and federal internal-revenue importation taxes, Section 4, Section 5, and Section 6 of that Act. This designation is not intended to abridge in any respect the privileges, exemptions or immunities which such organization may have acquired or may acquire by international agreement or by Congressional action.

Or:

By virtue of the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and statutes of the United States, including Section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act (59 Stat. 669, 22 U.S.C. 288), it is hereby ordered that the International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL), in which the United States participates pursuant to 22 U.S.C. 263a, is hereby designated as a public international organization entitled to enjoy the privileges, exemptions and immunities conferred by the International Organizations Immunities Act. This designation is not intended to abridge in any respect the privileges, exemptions or immunities which such organization may have acquired or may acquire by international agreement or by Congressional action.

106 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 8:25:08pm

re: #105 Gus 802

Obama’s Executive Order:

*Heads Asploding*

107 Gus  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 8:36:26pm

What are Section 2(c), Section 2(d), Section 3, Section 4, Section 5, and Section 6 of this Act - Public Law 79-291?

Section 2(c) and 2(d)

Sec. 2. International organizations shall enjoy the status, immunities, exemptions, and privileges set forth in this section, as follows:

(c) Property and assets of international organizations, wherever located and by whomsoever held, shall be immune from search, unless such immunity be expressly waived, and from confiscation. The archives of international organizations shall be inviolable.

(d) Insofar as concerns customs duties and internal-revenue taxes imposed upon or by reason of importation, and the procedures in connection therewith; the registration of foreign agents; and the treatment of official communications, the privileges, exemptions, and immunities to which international organizations shall be entitled shall be those accorded under similar circumstances to foreign governments.

Section 3

Sec. 3. Pursuant to regulations prescribed by the Commissioner of Customs with the approval of the Secretary of the Treasury, the baggage and effects of alien officers and employees of international organizations, or of aliens designated by foreign governments to serve as their representatives in or to such organizations, or of the families, suites, and servants of such officers, employees, or representatives shall be admitted (when imported in connection with the arrival of the owner) free of customs duties and free of internal-revenue taxes imposed upon or by reason of importation.

Section 4

Sec. 4. The Internal Revenue Code is hereby amended as follows:

[Followed by tax law exemptions and wording.]

Section 5

Sec. 5. (a) Effective January 1, 1946, section 209 (b) of the Social Security Act, defining the term…

[Followed by social security tax law exemptions and wording.]

Section 6

Sec. 6. International organizations shall be exempt from all property taxes imposed by, or under the authority of, any Act of Congress, including such Acts as are applicable solely to the District of Columbia or the Territories.

There you have it folks. Most of this deals with customs duties taxes, employment taxes, and social security. The main point is that they will be immune from search “unless such immunity be expressly waived, and from confiscation” which I assume is in the context of airport security and INTERPOL. My only question is why is Section 2(d) missing from the new Executive Order?

108 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 8:41:40pm

re: #107 Gus 802

What are Section 2(c), Section 2(d), Section 3, Section 4, Section 5, and Section 6 of this Act - Public Law 79-291?

Section 2(c) and 2(d)

There you have it folks. Most of this deals with customs duties taxes, employment taxes, and social security. The main point is that they will be immune from search “unless such immunity be expressly waived, and from confiscation” which I assume is in the context of airport security and INTERPOL. My only question is why is Section 2(d) missing from the new Executive Order?

Nice find. Though, I don’t see a ‘black helicopter’ provision…

109 Gus  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 8:43:22pm

re: #108 Varek Raith

Nice find. Though, I don’t see a ‘black helicopter’ provision…

None, it’s all taxes and customs. The only thing I see is that they get to walk in and out of an airplane and airport without being searched.

110 tradewind  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 9:07:26pm

re: #49 Slumbering Behemoth
Vs. Cinderblock cells, sub-freezing weather, and food that speaks polka.
The one group that will be happy?
ACLU lawyers, ready to file petitions.

111 badtrip  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 9:17:54pm

Well at least it shows a diversity of opinion.

112 RogueOne  Sun, Jan 10, 2010 4:56:08am

Giving Interpol “immunity” isn’t a conspiracy. It’s just another example of the statists believing the people who pay the bills shouldn’t have the ability to see the records. Nothing new here. Please go ahead and continue to trust your betters to do the right thing.

113 acacia  Sun, Jan 10, 2010 8:12:25am

I don’t see how any person in their right mind could come to the conclusion that a routine executive order - simply modifying one already in place by virtue of Reagan’s Exec. Order - means anything beyond its obvious routine language. This really stuns me as, if it means anything at all, it gives Interpol a little better perk and thus a better working relationship - all of which should HELP us in the war on radical Islam. The inability to discern real issues from nonsensical ruminations is only going to hurt us all in the long run.


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