Norris at WND: Obama’s Sekrit Vault

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Last seen at LGF with a strange op-ed arguing that if “Mother Mary” had Obamacare she would have aborted God, Chuck Norris is back with an even more whacked out sequel for World Net Daily: Obama’s secret vault.

Yes, that’s right. Chuck thinks the dreaded Executive Order 12425 will give Interpol the ability to violate our sovereignty and create a sekrit vault to hide Obama’s sekrit records about the War on Terror that the American public must never know, such as the fact that he’s a sekrit Muslim.

Is it merely coincidental that Obama signed this executive Interpol order and that he often goes out of his way to sympathize with and advocate pro-Muslim culture, beliefs and issues?

It’s getting a little difficult to tell if WND actually intends us to take people like Norris seriously, or if they’ve mutated into a berserk right wing version of the Weekly World News.

Also see Michael Isikoff: Chuck Norris Hunts for Obama’s ‘Secret Vault’ as Interpol Conspiracy Theories Get Wilder.

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264 comments
1 Daniel Ballard  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 11:42:37am

Poor Chuck. One to many to the head from Bruce Lee I guess.

2 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 11:43:17am

Since both Barack Obama and Al Capone were born elsewhere but made their name on the South Side of Chicago, could we just declare "Al Capone's Vault" to be "Obama's Vault" and then lock both Norris and Geraldo in it?

3 Varek Raith  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 11:43:22am

Damn, just when you think Norris can't be anymore inane...
*Facepalm*

4 DaddyG  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 11:43:24am

I wondered where Joe Biden had got off to.

5 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 11:44:49am

Chuck Norris should stick to what he's good at: Roundhouse kicking the living daylights out of people. Pretending to play politics and conspiracy theory is not your game, sir.

6 DaddyG  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 11:45:16am

Chuck Norris doesn't suffer from insanity. He DEFINES insanity.

7 jamesfirecat  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 11:45:48am

Why would Obama need a vault, couldn't he just borrow Cheney's man sized safe?

8 silentbob27  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 11:46:08am

I now know what will be on Jesse Ventura's show next week....

9 Kragar  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 11:46:18am

Chuck should be more worried about some of the other executive orders out there:

Exec order 15: Pickup dinner
Exec order 66: Kill all Jedi
Exec order 82: Disappear aging martial arts movie stars.

OH NOES! RUN CHUCK BEFORE HE DECLARES ORDER 82!

10 DaddyG  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 11:46:56am

re: #5 thedopefishlives

Chuck Norris should stick to what he's good at: Roundhouse kicking the living daylights out of people. Pretending to play politics and conspiracy theory is not your game, sir.

Speaking of which I was watching a few minutes of Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy Theory show last night on the Builder-bergs. It was moderately entertaining until they got to the Doctor who described Aspartame and Fluoridated water as a plot to kill children. They kind of lost me there.

11 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 11:47:23am

re: #9 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Chuck should be more worried about some of the other executive orders out there:

Exec order 15: Pickup dinner
Exec order 66: Kill all Jedi
Exec order 82: Disappear aging martial arts movie stars.

OH NOES! RUN CHUCK BEFORE HE DECLARES ORDER 82!

Kill Smurfs!

12 Kragar  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 11:48:02am

re: #11 Mad Al-Jaffee

Kill Smurfs!

Thats Order 73

13 DaddyG  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 11:48:02am

re: #11 Mad Al-Jaffee

Kill Smurfs!


No Avatar spoilers please I haven't seen it yet. /

14 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 11:48:12am

Wow. That is a new level of whacked out crazy.

15 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 11:48:21am

re: #10 DaddyG

Speaking of which I was watching a few minutes of Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy Theory show last night on the Builder-bergs. It was moderately entertaining until they got to the Doctor who described Aspartame and Fluoridated water as a plot to kill children. They kind of lost me there.

For the record, we don't claim Mr. Ventura as one of ours anymore.

16 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 11:50:18am

Didn't Fox News present a round table firmly debunking this craziness? Why, yes. They did.

17 avanti  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 11:50:50am

re: #13 DaddyG

No Avatar spoilers please I haven't seen it yet. /

What the hell, do you live in a cave ?/ Get you butt the the theater.

18 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 11:51:25am

re: #17 avanti

What the hell, do you live in a cave ?/ Get you butt the the theater.

I still haven't seen it. I probably will my day off Monday.

19 DaddyG  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 11:51:26am

Later Lizards - I've got work to do and you are too distracting (in a good way).

20 Varek Raith  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 11:51:28am

re: #16 lawhawk

Didn't Fox News present a round table firmly debunking this craziness? Why, yes. They did.

Yeah, well, they're in on it..uhh..too!
/

21 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 11:52:25am

OT, but just had to post this 'cause of the final sentence:

Amish families exempt from insurance mandate

It's this part that made me grin:

Sen. Charles E. Schumer, D-N.Y., who was a key negotiator on the Senate bill, supports the religious exemption, said a spokesman, Maxwell Young, who called the provision a "no brainer."

When asked if he could clarify his comment, Young vehemently denied he was referring to the senator.

Heh, heh, okay - made that last part up.

22 DaddyG  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 11:52:31am

re: #17 avanti

What the hell, do you live in a cave ?/ Get you butt the the theater.


Yes - with a wife and 7 children. I'm a dollar theatre kind of guy. ;-)

23 avanti  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 11:53:49am

re: #18 Mad Al-Jaffee

I still haven't seen it. I probably will my day off Monday.

Good, I think you'll enjoy it. Yes, it has some tree hugger, noble savages themes, but just enjoy the ride.

24 Summer Seale  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 11:53:51am

Hey America, it's Chuck Norris here.

You may remember me from such movie hits as "Blood 2 - Taking Revenge", "Kickboxing Insanity V - A New Beginning", and "Vietnam Vets Go Wild VII".

I'm here today in a new series to tell you about Barak Hussein Obama's intentions with America and the world at large.

You see, the world is a really dangerous place - I should know, I've acted out killing most of it. And now, with Obama in office, it just got even more dangerous.

For the last year, Obama has been sending out black helicopters over every state and we're not sure why. I speculate that it has something to do with all those death camps that you may have read Joseph Farrah writing about lately. I also saw it on the Glenn Beck show, and how right Beck is!

Did you know that Obama has a plane all to himself with super secret technology?

Did you know that Obama is followed around by men in black with earpieces?

Did you know that Obama drives around in a black limousine that is impossible to even tail?

Did you know that Obama's middle name is Hussein?

These are things you should know, along with the stories about the death camps and other things you might have read about here on WND.

It's good to ask questions. If you don't ask questions, you can't figure out how to defeat your enemy.

Now, I'm not saying that Obama necessarily is doing bad things, but all these things should be considered together.

One thing is for sure: he's definitely not on the side of America.

This is Chuck Norris, signing off for now.

Remember: Keep your fists armed and ready.

God Bless America.

25 avanti  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 11:55:25am

re: #22 DaddyG

Yes - with a wife and 7 children. I'm a dollar theatre kind of guy. ;-)

OK, that I get, just the wife and I spent about $40 with the 3D tickets and $6.00 popcorn.

26 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 11:55:25am

re: #23 avanti

Good, I think you'll enjoy it. Yes, it has some tree hugger, noble savages themes, but just enjoy the ride.

I mainly want to see it for the visual effects. I hope the 3d glasses fit okay over my regular glasses.

27 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 11:56:30am

re: #26 Mad Al-Jaffee

I mainly want to see it for the visual effects. I hope the 3d glasses fit okay over my regular glasses.

I've said it before, and I will say it again: This movie truly advanced the state of the art in computer-aided movie making. Go see it for all the technological splendor it displays, even if the story line is a bit on the cheesy side.

28 Lidane  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 11:56:36am

re: #16 lawhawk

Didn't Fox News present a round table firmly debunking this craziness? Why, yes. They did.

Pfft. As if that would stop the conspiracy nuts. They probably think Fox News is in on it now.

29 Obdicut  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 11:57:13am

re: #24 Summer

The sad thing is your parody is tamer than what he's actually saying. Poe's Law write large and recursive.

30 avanti  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 11:57:28am

re: #26 Mad Al-Jaffee

I mainly want to see it for the visual effects. I hope the 3d glasses fit okay over my regular glasses.

Yep, they did for me, and it's not your typical "spear in your face" 3D, it just puts you on Pandora.

31 Obdicut  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 11:58:04am

re: #28 Lidane

Free Republic has long ago decided the Fox is now the enemy, for various reasons.

32 Summer Seale  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 11:59:17am

re: #29 Obdicut

The sad thing is your parody is tamer than what he's actually saying. Poe's Law write large and recursive.

Yea but I'm running out of the door to shop for stuff cuz I've been sick for like 5 days with the flu. Now I feel better. =)

33 avanti  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 11:59:32am

re: #27 thedopefishlives

I've said it before, and I will say it again: This movie truly advanced the state of the art in computer-aided movie making. Go see it for all the technological splendor it displays, even if the story line is a bit on the cheesy side.

I read it's setting box office records in China and depressing the guys in the Chinese film industry. They were just overwhelmed by the flick.

34 Summer Seale  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:00:45pm

re: #29 Obdicut

The sad thing is your parody is tamer than what he's actually saying. Poe's Law write large and recursive.

And don't worry, I'm sure I'll channel his progressively more insane stuff as time goes on. =)

35 Obdicut  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:01:16pm

re: #32 Summer

Ah, the wonderful feeling of health after a sickness. Enjoy the hell out of it.

36 Kragar  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:01:24pm

re: #33 avanti

I read it's setting box office records in China and depressing the guys in the Chinese film industry. They were just overwhelmed by the flick.

It was a very impressive film visually. I took my 6 and 7 year old daughters to it and they sat thru the whole thing quietly watching, only got up for the bathroom once and hurried right back. They were throughly engrossed by it.

37 SixDegrees  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:03:41pm

re: #13 DaddyG

No Avatar spoilers please I haven't seen it yet. /

Kirk Cameron turns out to be Darth Vader's father.

Oops - my bad.

38 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:04:35pm

Some fans are taking Avatar too seriously

From the linked article:

"Ever since I went to see 'Avatar' I have been depressed. Watching the wonderful world of Pandora and all the Na'vi made me want to be one of them. I can't stop thinking about all the things that happened in the film and all of the tears and shivers I got from it," Mike posted. "I even contemplate suicide thinking that if I do it I will be rebirthed in a world similar to Pandora and the everything is the same as in 'Avatar.' "

39 American-African  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:04:40pm

Methinks Walker, Texas Ranger has spent a little too much time on the total-gym and too little in the public library. Not just Fox, but even the NRA has put the rumors surrounding this comfortably to bed.

Your text to link...

40 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:05:34pm

re: #24 Summer


Did you know that Obama is followed around by men in black with earpieces?

Did you know that those men are so insanely loyal and highly trained that they will even jump in front of a bullet to save Obama? Isn't such fanaticism terrifying?

/

41 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:05:35pm

re: #37 SixDegrees

Kirk Cameron turns out to be Darth Vader's father.

Oops - my bad.

SMACK!

42 Kragar  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:05:47pm

re: #38 Mad Al-Jaffee

Some fans are taking Avatar too seriously

From the linked article:

What a putz.

43 tradewind  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:06:42pm

Reid , in another pile of self-created crap.....
[Link: thehill.com...]

44 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:06:46pm

Speaking of Avatar, have you guys seen this:

Audiences experience 'Avatar' blues

People feeling suicidal because they can't actually live on Pandora? Suicidal feelings are no joke, but this seems over the top. It's a freakin' movie. I saw Peter Pan but never felt like offing myself because I couldn't actually fly off to Never-Never Land. These people need some serious help.

45 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:06:59pm

re: #34 Summer

And don't worry, I'm sure I'll channel his progressively more insane stuff as time goes on. =)

Don't do it Summer! If you channel too much crazy, you'll go crazy yourself! Stick to Palin's being a twit. Its safer.

46 TampaKnight  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:07:04pm

Avatar was visually absolutely amazing.

However the story was bland, unimaginative, and completely void of any character development.

47 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:07:21pm

re: #38 Mad Al-Jaffee

Oops! Ya beat me to it!

;-)

48 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:07:22pm

re: #38 Mad Al-Jaffee

Some fans are taking Avatar too seriously

From the linked article:

OK, this is worse than the guys on Rapture Ready who are all depressed and jumpy because the Rapture is taking too long, and they want to be with Jesus now. Christianity is an actual religion, even if I think the RR people are taking it in a weird direction. This is a sci-fi movie.

49 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:08:13pm

re: #44 subsailor68

GMTA

I was kind of upset when I was seven years old and realized light sabers would probably never be invented. But I quickly got over it.

50 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:09:12pm

re: #48 SanFranciscoZionist

OK, this is worse than the guys on Rapture Ready who are all depressed and jumpy because the Rapture is taking too long, and they want to be with Jesus now. Christianity is an actual religion, even if I think the RR people are taking it in a weird direction. This is a sci-fi movie.

They have Jedi churches and Klingon dictionaries these days. The list of people who take SciFi too seriously is a long one.

51 SixDegrees  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:09:18pm

re: #46 TampaKnight

Avatar was visually absolutely amazing.

However the story was bland, unimaginative, and completely void of any character development.

The sequel will be better. Avatar II: Nuke 'Em From Orbit.

52 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:09:27pm

BBL.

53 Kragar  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:09:33pm

re: #48 SanFranciscoZionist

OK, this is worse than the guys on Rapture Ready who are all depressed and jumpy because the Rapture is taking too long, and they want to be with Jesus now. Christianity is an actual religion, even if I think the RR people are taking it in a weird direction. This is a sci-fi movie.

Almost as scary as Twilight Moms.

54 Ojoe  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:09:50pm

Actually the weekly World News isthe world's most reliable newspaper.

55 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:09:50pm

re: #52 Dark_Falcon

BBL.

Nevermind, I've got a few minutes yet.

56 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:09:53pm

re: #49 Mad Al-Jaffee

GMTA

I was kind of upset when I was seven years old and realized light sabers would probably never be invented. But I quickly got over it.

You see the episode of How I Met Your Mother where it's three years in the future, and Marshall is carving the Thanksgiving turkey with one? While the family watches through dark glasses?

Baffled me. You'd think it would, well, cauterize the meat, which would probably dry it out.

57 Kragar  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:10:10pm

re: #51 SixDegrees

The sequel will be better. Avatar II: Nuke 'Em From Orbit.

LOL, thats what I thought at the end as well.

58 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:10:19pm

re: #50 Dark_Falcon

They have Jedi churches and Klingon dictionaries these days. The list of people who take SciFi too seriously is a long one.

True, but I don't think anyone ever died from learning Klingon.

59 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:10:49pm

re: #56 SanFranciscoZionist

You see the episode of How I Met Your Mother where it's three years in the future, and Marshall is carving the Thanksgiving turkey with one? While the family watches through dark glasses?

Baffled me. You'd think it would, well, cauterize the meat, which would probably dry it out.

No, I've never seen that show. I''ve been meaning to check it out.

60 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:10:50pm

re: #53 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Almost as scary as Twilight Moms.

And I know that I'm not original, but if a bunch of men were behaving like that--CREEPY.

61 Mocking Jay  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:11:02pm

re: #48 SanFranciscoZionist

OK, this is worse than the guys on Rapture Ready who are all depressed and jumpy because the Rapture is taking too long, and they want to be with Jesus now. Christianity is an actual religion, even if I think the RR people are taking it in a weird direction. This is a sci-fi movie.

There are some of us who see very little distinction...

62 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:11:12pm

re: #59 Mad Al-Jaffee

No, I've never seen that show. I''ve been meaning to check it out.

It's fun.

63 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:11:14pm

re: #46 TampaKnight

Avatar was visually absolutely amazing.

However the story was bland, unimaginative, and completely void of any character development.

I used to have dates that fit that description!

64 Mocking Jay  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:11:30pm

re: #51 SixDegrees

The sequel will be better. Avatar II: Nuke 'Em From Orbit.

It's the only way to be sure.

65 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:11:42pm

re: #63 sattv4u2

I used to have dates that fit that description!

in bed!

66 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:11:58pm

re: #61 JasonA

There are some of us who see very little distinction...

Well, my husband says that Star Wars IS his religion, but he's a little odd at times.

67 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:12:22pm

re: #65 Mad Al-Jaffee

in bed!

That was part of why he dated them, I'm sure. :D

68 philosophus invidius  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:12:24pm

I think it's funny how Chuck says that this order puts Interpol above the U.S. Constitution, specifically the 4th amendment. But Chuck forgot that the 4th doesn't say that the gov't has a right to search and seize whatever is on U.S. soil. To the contrary, it puts a limit on what searches and seizures the gov't may perform.

The Onion hits the nail on the head: Area Man Passionate Defender Of What He Imagines Constitution To Be

Also I think Chuck is getting right into the area of liable when talks about:

Obama's indifference [to] and even defense of Islamic extremists like the Fort Hood shooter or Northwest flight 253's attempted bomber.
69 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:12:30pm

re: #49 Mad Al-Jaffee

GMTA

I was kind of upset when I was seven years old and realized light sabers would probably never be invented. But I quickly got over it.

LOL! One of my favorite lines from Star Wars:

Darth Vader: "Don't lase me bro!"

Well, maybe I heard it somewhere else.

70 Ojoe  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:12:42pm
71 tradewind  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:13:04pm

re: #44 subsailor68
Guess that would be thinking inside the box. //

72 Lidane  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:13:06pm

re: #31 Obdicut

Free Republic has long ago decided that reason and critical thinking are now the enemy, for various reasons.

FTFY. :)

I pretty much ignore FR these days. I used to go there on occasion for my own amusement, but since the election, they've been intolerable. It's not funny anymore, and finding out that even Fox News is their enemy doesn't surprise me in the least.

73 Kragar  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:13:22pm

re: #60 SanFranciscoZionist

And I know that I'm not original, but if a bunch of men were behaving like that--CREEPY.

At least some of us have the decency to keep it on the internet and anonymous, the way creepy relationships are supposed to be!

///

74 Ojoe  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:13:31pm

re: #70 Ojoe

"WWN"

PIMF


Enjoy.

75 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:13:40pm

re: #51 SixDegrees

The sequel will be better. Avatar II: Nuke 'Em From Orbit.

Good point. If one side controls the orbitals of the planet, then that side will win if it's willing to damage the planet.

76 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:13:59pm

re: #51 SixDegrees

The sequel will be better. Avatar II: Nuke 'Em From Orbit.

It's the only way to be sure. /Hicks

77 philosophus invidius  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:14:04pm

re: #58 SanFranciscoZionist

True, but I don't think anyone ever died from learning Klingon.

Only there soul dies from that.

78 philosophus invidius  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:14:50pm

re: #77 philosophus invidius

their

79 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:15:09pm

re: #77 philosophus invidius

Only there soul dies from that.

Oh no, not their soul. Their social life, for sure.

80 RogueOne  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:15:16pm

I stand by my original statement. This isn't a conspiracy, just another example of the statists deciding what "we the people" are entitled to have access to. You notice they have immunity from everything but taxes, right? Giving PD's unlimited immunity is a bad idea no matter who does it.

81 Kragar  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:15:32pm

re: #69 subsailor68

LOL! One of my favorite lines from Star Wars:

Darth Vader: "Don't lase me bro!"

Well, maybe I heard it somewhere else.

The greatest WTF quote from Star Wars.

Obi Wan: Only the Sith speak of absolutes!

Are you absolutely sure of that Ben?

82 RogueOne  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:15:41pm

re: #80 RogueOne

I forgot to add "Down With The Man!"

83 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:16:03pm

re: #49 Mad Al-Jaffee

GMTA

I was kind of upset when I was seven years old and realized light sabers would probably never be invented. But I quickly got over it.

I saw t-shirt yesterday that said "Obi Juan Kenobi" with a picture of what looked like Pancho Villa wielding a light saber.

84 Lidane  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:16:13pm

re: #53 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Almost as scary as Twilight Moms.

Few things in this world are as scary as Twilight Moms. Those women are insane. I remember reading about some woman in her 40's trying to give her underwear to the actor that plays Jacob in the films for him to sign them. The kid's 17.

It's just crazy how some people are acting over Twilight, and the books aren't even that good. In fact, they're awful. =P

85 Kragar  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:16:39pm

re: #75 Dark_Falcon

Good point. If one side controls the orbitals of the planet, then that side will win if it's willing to damage the planet.

Head over to LV426, grab some facehugger eggs and drop them onto Pandora.

86 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:17:00pm

re: #81 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

"I used to bullseye womp rats in my T-16 back home."

Wait, what?

87 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:17:26pm

re: #38 Mad Al-Jaffee

Then, you've got the Boba Fett playing the... wait for it...

wait for it...

an accordion.

88 avanti  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:17:28pm

re: #48 SanFranciscoZionist

OK, this is worse than the guys on Rapture Ready who are all depressed and jumpy because the Rapture is taking too long, and they want to be with Jesus now. Christianity is an actual religion, even if I think the RR people are taking it in a weird direction. This is a sci-fi movie.

I got the beauty of Pandora, but I'm too tied to modern technology to live in the forest. I could not even survive lack of internet access, and forget no electricity or the rest. I'd love to spend a long weekend on Pandora once they get Wi-Fi.

89 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:17:35pm

re: #84 Lidane

I went to the midnight showing of the original Twilight movie with my wife, because I'm such a devoted husband and because we actually didn't have a clue what it was about. The giveaway should've been the fact that I was the only male anywhere in the massive 18-screen theater complex that night.

90 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:17:44pm

re: #84 Lidane

I'm really, really, really getting tired of vampires.

91 SixDegrees  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:17:58pm

re: #85 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Head over to LV426, grab some facehugger eggs and drop them onto Pandora.

I think they did that movie already. Aliens Versus Predator.

The suck was massive.

92 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:18:08pm

Tsutomu Yamaguchi died last week.

Only man confirmed to have survived both Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Made it to 93.

I guess if it isn't your time, it really isn't your time.

93 Kragar  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:18:11pm

re: #86 Mad Al-Jaffee

"I used to bullseye womp rats in my T-16 back home."

Wait, what?

and he dated his sister. Yup, Luke really was a farm boy.

94 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:18:46pm

re: #85 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Great. We're on another bug hunt.

95 RogueOne  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:19:00pm

re: #90 Mad Al-Jaffee

I'm really, really, really getting tired of effeminate vampires.

FTFY

96 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:19:02pm

re: #81 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The greatest WTF quote from Star Wars.

Obi Wan: Only the Sith speak of absolutes!

Are you absolutely sure of that Ben?

The Sith sure are better at psychology.

97 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:19:23pm

re: #84 Lidane

Few things in this world are as scary as Twilight Moms. Those women are insane. I remember reading about some woman in her 40's trying to give her underwear to the actor that plays Jacob in the films for him to sign them. The kid's 17.

It's just crazy how some people are acting over Twilight, and the books aren't even that good. In fact, they're awful. =P

I'm a "Twilight Mom" of the variety who has to go to B&N and walk around bored for three hours so she can buy a book we could have gotten at Costco the next day for less money. I've driven teens to movies, sat through innumerable youtube spoofs that "you just gotta see this one, Mom," and read the first book because I figured it was responsible to know what she was reading.

I do actually like the Death Cab for Cutie song, though.

98 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:19:40pm

re: #87 lawhawk

Then, you've got the Boba Fett playing the... wait for it...

wait for it...

an accordion.


I wish I could watch videos at work. Another great one is when Luke removes Vader's mask and it looks like he has a harmonica on a rack. Sonny Terry harmonica is dubbed in.

99 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:20:09pm

re: #86 Mad Al-Jaffee

"I used to bullseye womp rats in my T-16 back home."

Wait, what?

T-16 Skyhopper

100 Lidane  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:20:37pm

re: #90 Mad Al-Jaffee

I'm really, really, really getting tired of vampires.

I don't mind vampires. I love a good, blood-soaked, scary vampire story as much as the next person. It's the sparkly, non-threatening wannabe "vampires" with the whiny, emo, emotionally stunted girlfriends that I can do without. =P

101 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:20:40pm

re: #96 SanFranciscoZionist

And their phone calls are better too..

102 Ben Hur  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:21:27pm

re: #87 lawhawk

Then, you've got the Boba Fett playing the... wait for it...

wait for it...

an accordion.

I've taken that guys pic.

103 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:21:40pm

re: #93 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

and he dated his sister. Yup, Luke really was a farm boy.

I love when he first sees the hologram/film of Leah and says "Who is she? She's beautiful?!" Obi Wan should have smacked him and said "She's your sister!"

104 Kragar  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:22:26pm

re: #97 EmmmieG

I'm a "Twilight Mom" of the variety who has to go to B&N and walk around bored for three hours so she can buy a book we could have gotten at Costco the next day for less money. I've driven teens to movies, sat through innumerable youtube spoofs that "you just gotta see this one, Mom," and read the first book because I figured it was responsible to know what she was reading.

I do actually like the Death Cab for Cutie song, though.

Just got to teach them right. My 2 girls and I are reading the Wheel of Time books, and we all play 40k at least once a week.

105 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:22:35pm

Test this dude for steroids. He's lost his mind.

106 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:23:48pm

Tea Party!

107 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:23:54pm

What is it with these falling bodies?

108 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:23:54pm

Now, I really do have to go.

BBL

109 McSpiff  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:24:16pm

re: #105 Stanley Sea

Test this dude for steroids. He's lost his mind.

Seriously, when did Muslims become the new Joos? With the taking over the world and what not.

110 Lidane  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:24:38pm

re: #97 EmmmieG

I do actually like the Death Cab for Cutie song, though.

That's because Death Cab for Cutie are a great band.

111 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:25:58pm

re: #99 Dark_Falcon

T-16 Skyhopper

Okay, but what's a womp rat?

112 Kragar  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:26:17pm

re: #103 Mad Al-Jaffee

I love when he first sees the hologram/film of Leah and says "Who is she? She's beautiful?!" Obi Wan should have smacked him and said "She's your sister!"

You mean this?

[Link: failbooking.com...]

113 Lidane  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:26:31pm

re: #105 Stanley Sea

Test this dude for steroids. He's lost his mind.

Nah. It's not steroids. Chuck's just taken a few too many kicks to the head.

114 avanti  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:26:45pm

Conan will quit, rather that being pushed back by Leno.

115 tradewind  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:27:44pm

re: #109 McSpiff
That phrase makes my brain hurt//

116 RogueOne  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:28:02pm

re: #114 avanti

Conan will quit, rather that being pushed back by Leno.

Ya think? What a nightmare they've made for themselves btw.

117 Lidane  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:28:22pm

re: #114 avanti

Conan will quit, rather that being pushed back by Leno.

He should quit. The way they're treating him is insulting. I'd be livid if I was Conan.

118 AK-47%  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:28:22pm

re: #88 avanti

I got the beauty of Pandora, but I'm too tied to modern technology to live in the forest. I could not even survive lack of internet access, and forget no electricity or the rest. I'd love to spend a long weekend on Pandora once they get Wi-Fi.

Quite simple: the Na'vi are *not* humans, they are free of the very shortcomings that cause all of our utopian dreams ventures to founder when faced with the inevitable of human nature.

But the fact that we can conceive a utopia and strive towards an ideal is a great human virtue. Those who abandon it completely are the ones who truly turn evil.

119 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:28:34pm

re: #100 Lidane

I don't mind vampires. I love a good, blood-soaked, scary vampire story as much as the next person. It's the sparkly, non-threatening wannabe "vampires" with the whiny, emo, emotionally stunted girlfriends that I can do without. =P

Now that's funny!

I'm kind of looking forward to this one:

The Wolfman

It's Benicio Del Toro, which is an interesting choice. Sure hope he doesn't use the same accent he did in "The Usual Suspects"!

120 avanti  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:30:00pm

re: #117 Lidane

He should quit. The way they're treating him is insulting. I'd be livid if I was Conan.

Here's his statement.

121 Kragar  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:30:19pm

re: #119 subsailor68

Now that's funny!

I'm kind of looking forward to this one:

The Wolfman

It's Benicio Del Toro, which is an interesting choice. Sure hope he doesn't use the same accent he did in "The Usual Suspects"!

I was initially interested, but the more I've seen of it, the less I want to see it.

122 tradewind  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:30:35pm

re: #117 Lidane

It's not Leno's fault that NBC flunked Programming 101.
Conan should just roll wit' it.

123 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:30:51pm
124 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:31:06pm

re: #114 avanti

Conan will quit, rather that being pushed back by Leno.

Except for Red Eye, I've pretty much given up on talk shows and late night tv.

125 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:31:18pm

re: #123 Killgore Trout

Another one: 4 Passengers on Northwest Flight Cause Disturbance

No details yet.

Delta/Northwest are getting hammered. Now I'm starting to wonder about my new choice of airline.

126 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:31:21pm

re: #121 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Oh, hi ho, let's just give Hugh Jackman another crossbow.

127 RogueOne  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:32:11pm

A sure sign of the end times, Kennedy's seat up for grabs:

[Link: www.boston.com...]


.......But the most striking thing about the debate was not that the very liberal Democrat and the not-especially-conservative Republican disagreed on the issues. It is that they are both viable candidates in a race too competitive to call. In Massachusetts!

“I don’t know what’s going to happen on Jan. 19th,’’ Coakley said. She wasn’t being coy. Nobody knows what’s going to happen next week.

128 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:32:15pm

re: #114 avanti

Conan's contract apparently didn't specify a time slot for him to be in; only that he'd be the host of the Tonight Show. So, he's got only his legal team to blame for this mess.

But you're right, I'd walk if I was him. I'm sure that another network would be more than willing to fork over the money for that time slot. Fox comes to mind (and Conan used to work for the Simpsons staff so it's not like he hasn't dealt with Fox execs before).

129 Kragar  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:32:51pm

re: #126 EmmmieG

Oh, hi ho, let's just give Hugh Jackman another crossbow.

Don't even get me started on that pile o' crap.

130 Soap_Man  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:33:15pm

What sekrit order is next? Chuck's next article will be about Obama's impending "Order 66" to kill all the Jedi with his army of clones and declare himself emperor.

131 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:33:21pm

re: #121 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I was initially interested, but the more I've seen of it, the less I want to see it.

Hi Kragar. I've only seen the one trailer. It looks visually beautiful, but then so did Sherlock Holmes. Went to that one, and thought I'd stumbled into a Victorian version of a lame buddy flick.

Oh wait. I did.

132 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:33:42pm

Update: Muslim rally organizer claims death threats

The Muslim organizer of a rally last week in Detroit against terrorism said he received a death threat over the phone from a man with an Arabic accent who was upset that he spoke out against other Muslims.

133 tradewind  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:33:51pm

re: #123 Killgore Trout


the crew of a Northwest Airlines flight has requested that authorities meet the plane as it landed in Detroit because four passengers did not follow their instructions.

....... realizing that things have changed radically in a few short years, but seriously....if I had a dollar for every time..... yadayada.....

134 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:34:00pm

re: #130 Soap_Man

What sekrit order is next?

Collect Underpants

135 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:34:01pm

re: #125 thedopefishlives

Delta/Northwest and Continental have increased their checked luggage fees starting today. Now you've got to pay $25 to check at the airport ($23 if done online).

I'm getting tired of being nickel and dimed for every flight related expense. Just bundle everything in the price and raise the prices. It would make it a whole world better and easier for consumers to price out flights so they're not starting off the experienced in a pissed-off mode.

136 RogueOne  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:34:03pm

re: #120 avanti

Here's his statement.

Wow. Good for him!

137 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:34:04pm

re: #90 Mad Al-Jaffee

I'm really, really, really getting tired of vampires.

Go See Daybreakers, if for no other reason than watching Ethan Hawke, Sam Niell, and William Dafoe, chewing up the script and watching a pretty good effort at answering what would happen if most of the world were transformed into Vampires.

Fair warning, there are plot holes you can drive through and it's extremely gory, but I personally think it's a good antidote to the entire bubble gum sparkling vampire inanity.

Vampires Do Not Frakking Sparkle!

138 Ben Hur  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:34:59pm

Star Wars Burlesque: Tatooine-Styled Shenanigans at the Bordello

Saturday night, downtown club Bordello temporarily transformed itself into Mos Eisley Cantina for a night of Tatooine-styled shenanigans helmed by Devil's Playground. Star Wars Burlesque reimagined a host of beloved characters from the film series -- from the sexy to the androgynous to the grotesque -- as scantily clad female performers, with locals On Blast assuming the role of cantina band. Check out the cast of characters below.

139 metrolibertarian  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:35:42pm

re: #9 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

re: #134 Mad Al-Jaffee

Collect Underpants

Finally a financial plan I can understand!

140 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:35:44pm

re: #120 avanti

That's really sad.
NBC made a really big mess out of this.
Still, he's really hurt the ratings.
I wonder if even Leno can bring them back?
Or if late night teevee is just dying, like the newspapers?

141 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:35:46pm

re: #135 lawhawk

Delta/Northwest and Continental have increased their checked luggage fees starting today. Now you've got to pay $25 to check at the airport ($23 if done online).

I'm getting tired of being nickel and dimed for every flight related expense. Just bundle everything in the price and raise the prices. It would make it a whole world better and easier for consumers to price out flights so they're not starting off the experienced in a pissed-off mode.

ARGH. Just a month ago I was complaining because my wife had to check a bag for my flight down to Indy for Christmas, and it cost me $30 for the round trip ($15 down, $15 back). United never did that to me. WHY?!

142 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:36:04pm

bbiab

143 RogueOne  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:38:08pm

re: #120 avanti

Here's his statement.

I'm sure the $45 mill had nothing to do with his decision:

[Link: www.newser.com...]

One problem for NBC: O’Brien’s contract includes a $40 to $45 million penalty fee if the network forces him out of The Tonight Show. One senior NBC exec says O'Brien's show will keep that title—Leno is said to be more interested in the time slot—and Leno will keep The Jay Leno Show title. Meanwhile, even if Leno ends up with a half-hour show, sources say his salary will not be cut in half.
144 b_sharp  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:39:03pm

re: #72 Lidane

FTFY. :)

I pretty much ignore FR these days. I used to go there on occasion for my own amusement, but since the election, they've been intolerable. It's not funny anymore, and finding out that even Fox News is their enemy doesn't surprise me in the least.

The crazy is encouraged from the top down.

145 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:40:27pm

re: #140 Floral Giraffe

That's really sad.
NBC made a really big mess out of this.
Still, he's really hurt the ratings.
I wonder if even Leno can bring them back?
Or if late night teevee is just dying, like the newspapers?

Hi Floral! NBC certainly has! I'm not sure that giving Leno a 30 minute slot from 11:35 - 12:05 is a good idea. What can he do with that? A monologue and a skit and he's out. My guess is that it will drive viewers to Letterman, even if they don't like him as much - to check out the guests, skits, etc.

And if they do that, Leno tanks, and the Tonight Show tanks since people will be less likely to switch back in the middle of Letterman.

146 darthstar  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:41:35pm

Norris:

"Is it merely coincidental that Obama signed this executive Interpol order, and that the feds want to try these 9/11 terrorists in civilian courts rather than military courts?" Norris asks in his bizarre and hard-to-follow rant.

He continues: "Is it merely coincidental that Obama signed this executive Interpol order and that he often goes out of his way to sympathize with and advocate pro-Muslim culture, beliefs and issues?"


...hm. Is it merely coincidental that Chuck Norris is a douchebag evangelical wingnut who needs his head examined?

147 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:42:56pm

re: #130 Soap_Man

What sekrit order is next? Chuck's next article will be about Obama's impending "Order 66" to kill all the Jedi with his army of clones and declare himself emperor.

Cheney was supposed to, but forgot...

/

148 darthstar  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:44:48pm

re: #140 Floral Giraffe

That's really sad.
NBC made a really big mess out of this.
Still, he's really hurt the ratings.
I wonder if even Leno can bring them back?
Or if late night teevee is just dying, like the newspapers?

Leno's schtick was getting old a long time ago...hell, he was still relying on Clinton/Lewinsky jokes as recently as 2008 (the last time I tried sitting through his show). I had a feeling the 10:00 gig would be a major fail. And now Conan, who is far wittier, more edgy, and has a great straight-man in Andy Richter, is getting shafted to help bail out poor Jay? If Jay continues to fail at 11:35 will they then finally get rid of his predictably sorry ass?

149 tradewind  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:45:55pm

re: #125 thedopefishlives

When you're the biggest, everyone wants to knock you down a peg.
Mergers are always rough for airlines, and particularly for this one... the corporate cultures could not have been more different.

150 Mocking Jay  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:46:34pm

re: #117 Lidane

He should quit. The way they're treating him is insulting. I'd be livid if I was Conan.

I more pissed at Leno. He was supposed to retire.

151 brookly red  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:47:29pm

re: #147 SanFranciscoZionist

Cheney was supposed to, but forgot...

/

/the timing isn't right yet...

152 tradewind  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:47:41pm

re: #127 RogueOne

As Scott Brown says, 'It's not the Kennedy Seat; it's the People's Seat'.
From your lips, Mr. Brown.

153 Lidane  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:47:57pm

re: #137 bloodstar

Vampires Do Not Frakking Sparkle!

They also have fangs, feed on humans, and are also highly sexual, at least in the modern vampire myths.

In Twilight, they're "vegetarians" (i.e., they feed on animals, not people, so they're not only sparkly, but non-threatening too), they lack fangs and just have razor sharp teeth instead, and the text strongly hints that Edward was a virgin when he became a vampire at 18 and stayed one until he met Bella 90+ years later, and he'd only have sex with her after marrying her because of his "values".

It's the most sterile, sexless version of a vampire story I've ever read, and that's saying something when you realize that Bram Stoker's book came out during the Victorian era. =P

154 darthstar  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:49:33pm

re: #153 Lidane

They also have fangs, feed on humans, and are also highly sexual, at least in the modern vampire myths.

In Twilight, they're "vegetarians" (i.e., they feed on animals, not people, so they're not only sparkly, but non-threatening too), they lack fangs and just have razor sharp teeth instead, and the text strongly hints that Edward was a virgin when he became a vampire at 18 and stayed one until he met Bella 90+ years later, and he'd only have sex with her after marrying her because of his "values".

It's the most sterile, sexless version of a vampire story I've ever read, and that's saying something when you realize that Bram Stoker's book came out during the Victorian era. =P

Well, we'll know the transition is complete from monster to role model when Brit Hume interviews Edward to talk to him about his Christianity.

155 brookly red  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:49:48pm

re: #152 tradewind

As Scott Brown says, 'It's not the Kennedy Seat; it's the People's Seat'.
From your lips, Mr. Brown.

It was a show-stopper, I expect it to be the new battle cry...

156 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:49:50pm

re: #153 Lidane

They also have fangs, feed on humans, and are also highly sexual, at least in the modern vampire myths.

In Twilight, they're "vegetarians" (i.e., they feed on animals, not people, so they're not only sparkly, but non-threatening too), they lack fangs and just have razor sharp teeth instead, and the text strongly hints that Edward was a virgin when he became a vampire at 18 and stayed one until he met Bella 90+ years later, and he'd only have sex with her after marrying her because of his "values".

It's the most sterile, sexless version of a vampire story I've ever read, and that's saying something when you realize that Bram Stoker's book came out during the Victorian era. =P

Well, the Victorians knew something about dangerous sexuality...

I think that's the appeal to a teenage girl, though. This guy is gorgeous, and he's stayed a virgin for a century because he was waiting for YOU?

157 Kragar  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:50:50pm

re: #153 Lidane

They also have fangs, feed on humans, and are also highly sexual, at least in the modern vampire myths.

In Twilight, they're "vegetarians" (i.e., they feed on animals, not people, so they're not only sparkly, but non-threatening too), they lack fangs and just have razor sharp teeth instead, and the text strongly hints that Edward was a virgin when he became a vampire at 18 and stayed one until he met Bella 90+ years later, and he'd only have sex with her after marrying her because of his "values".

It's the most sterile, sexless version of a vampire story I've ever read, and that's saying something when you realize that Bram Stoker's book came out during the Victorian era. =P

I personally prefer the Brian Lumley Necroscope type of vampire. Alien killing machines, barely human, who view humans as either food or material to form thralls and warbeasts for their unholy crusades.

158 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:51:24pm

re: #154 darthstar

Well, we'll know the transition is complete from monster to role model when Brit Hume interviews Edward to talk to him about his Christianity.

Someone was actually suggesting other book concepts, based on the monster + wholesome formula. The one I loved best was "Purity Ring Werewolf". It's complicated, you see, because he really wants to wear a purity ring for his honey...but it's silver...and the Purity Ball is on the night of a full moon...

159 RogueOne  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:51:58pm

re: #158 SanFranciscoZionist

Someone was actually suggesting other book concepts, based on the monster + wholesome formula. The one I loved best was "Purity Ring Werewolf". It's complicated, you see, because he really wants to wear a purity ring for his honey...but it's silver...and the Purity Ball is on the night of a full moon...

I'd see that movie.

160 Randall Gross  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:52:31pm

Whirled Nuts Daily:
Purely for Profit Political Pandering to Puddingheads

161 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:52:49pm

re: #157 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I personally prefer the Brian Lumley Necroscope type of vampire. Alien killing machines, barely human, who view humans as either food or material to form thralls and warbeasts for their unholy crusades.

I'm just bored with vampires. If it has fangs and a Byronesque appeal, I just don't want to hear about it. The Anita Blake books burned me out even before Twilight came on the scene.

162 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:53:04pm

re: #153 Lidane

SNL did a great Twilight parody this season. Instead of vampires, the protagonists were Frankenstein monsters.

There's also a great one out there where the hero is a guy who wears one of those three wolves t-shirts. Aubrey Plaza (from Parks & Recreation, hilarious young actress) is in it.

163 Lidane  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:53:05pm

re: #159 RogueOne

I'd see that movie.

Only if Eli Roth directs it. That would be hilarious.

164 dr. luba  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:53:35pm

re: #61 JasonA

Huge difference, dude. One is an invisible sky being, the other is an invisible earth (planet?) being. Come on.....all the difference in the world!!!!

165 brookly red  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:54:07pm

re: #161 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm just bored with vampires. If it has fangs and a Byronesque appeal, I just don't want to hear about it. The Anita Blake books burned me out even before Twilight came on the scene.

/I am more and more looking at vampires in a political way...

166 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:54:11pm

re: #157 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I personally prefer the Brian Lumley Necroscope type of vampire. Alien killing machines, barely human, who view humans as either food or material to form thralls and warbeasts for their unholy crusades.

Hi Kragar! I don't think I've read any Lumley, but your post reminded me that for pure gory fun, I really got a kick out of 30 Days of Night.

167 tradewind  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:55:30pm

re: #148 darthstar

It wasn't Leno, IMO. It was the idiocy of trying to save money by replacing expensive but popular prime time series programming with cheap pseudo late-night done early.

168 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:56:07pm

I got tired of vampires after reading Anne Rice's thrid or fourth book and realized how stupid they were.

The last good vampire movie I saw was Near Dark.

169 RogueOne  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:57:12pm

re: #167 tradewind

It wasn't Leno, IMO. It was the idiocy of trying to save money by replacing expensive but popular prime time series programming with cheap pseudo late-night done early.

I wonder what Comcast thinks about all of this? They just bought NBC and now they're going to have to pony up $45 mil to have leno back on the tonight show.

170 Kragar  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:58:18pm

re: #161 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm just bored with vampires. If it has fangs and a Byronesque appeal, I just don't want to hear about it. The Anita Blake books burned me out even before Twilight came on the scene.

In Necrosope, the source of Vampirism was a parasite which attached to the victims brain and allowed the production of an enzyme allowing massive restructuring of the living tissue. They made Vlad the Impaler seem like a reasonable fellow. They saw no reason to be charming when you could combine several dozen thralls into a killing machine the size of an elephant and tear your rivals into bits.

171 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:59:05pm

Not a vampire movie, but I'm getting Moon from Netflix in a day or two. I love it when I can get a new release the week it comes out. Basterds is still long wait or very long wait.

172 Kragar  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 12:59:29pm

re: #166 subsailor68

Hi Kragar! I don't think I've read any Lumley, but your post reminded me that for pure gory fun, I really got a kick out of 30 Days of Night.

The 30 days of night Vamps were still too human to be able to take a Lumley Vamp.

173 Mocking Jay  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:00:00pm

re: #170 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I only read the first book. I liked it up until a point (that point being where the protagonist learned how to break the laws of physics from the dead).

174 RogueOne  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:00:43pm

[Link: cbs2chicago.com...]


Chicago Alderman Declares War On 'Avatar'
James Balcer, A Veteran, Says Blockbuster Film Portrays Military In Negative Light


Balcer is a decorated Marine veteran of the Vietnam war, and now he's going into battle against the film that may turn out to be the biggest moneymaker of all time. He hates the film's message, and he's not alone.
....
Balcer says the film makes Marines "look like lunatics."

He says that like it's a bad thing. Everyone knows Marines ARE lunatics!//

175 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:01:01pm

Zombies, on the other hand, are something I'll never get tired of. I love World War Z and the Walking Dead comic books.

176 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:01:05pm

re: #38 Mad Al-Jaffee

Some fans are taking Avatar too seriously

From the linked article:

When LOTR was a big hit, weren't there a bunch of people who wanted to go and live in Middle Earth?

177 Kragar  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:01:33pm

re: #174 RogueOne

[Link: cbs2chicago.com...]


He says that like it's a bad thing. Everyone knows Marines ARE lunatics!//

The guys on Pandora were private contractors, former Marines.

178 brookly red  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:02:01pm

re: #176 Alouette

When LOTR was a big hit, weren't there a bunch of people who wanted to go and live in Middle Earth?

they were just threating to do that if their side lost the election...

179 Vambo  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:02:05pm

re: #170 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

In Necrosope, the source of Vampirism was a parasite which attached to the victims brain and allowed the production of an enzyme allowing massive restructuring of the living tissue. They made Vlad the Impaler seem like a reasonable fellow. They saw no reason to be charming when you could combine several dozen thralls into a killing machine the size of an elephant and tear your rivals into bits.

that sounds pretty cool. I don't get the vampire trend either, and I don't find them sexy. Know what else sucks blood? Ticks. Leeches. Not sexy.

Werewolves on the other hand... they rock.

180 Kragar  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:02:49pm

re: #173 JasonA

I only read the first book. I liked it up until a point (that point being where the protagonist learned how to break the laws of physics from the dead).

One of the later offshoots, I forget which ones, focused on the Vamps homeworld and their wars. Good sci-fi/horror.

181 metrolibertarian  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:03:58pm

[Link: www.theonion.com...]

"I had a blast working on that slick project with all those classy heads. Biden was definitely in the building." - Joe Biden on his appearances in ads for Hennessy.

182 RogueOne  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:04:48pm

re: #181 metrolibertarian

I love that bit.

183 Gus  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:05:52pm

I seriously doubt that Chuck Norris even bothered to read both Executive Order 12425, Executive Order 12971, Executive Order 13524 by President Obama, and the International Organizations Immunities Act of which this involves. This deals almost entirely with "customs duties and federal internal-revenue importation taxes."

Here's a hint for Mr. Norris. First you read EO 12425. Then, you amend it per EO 12971. After that you amend it per EO 13524. All of the amendments cover portions of the International Organizations Immunities Act that have been removed and that includes Section 2(c), Section 2(d), Section 3, Section 4, Section 5, and Section 6. Those are the sections that now apply for Interpol which were once exceptions.

If he did read all documents involved and still does not understand this then I can only conclude that he is suffering from too many blows to the head or is just a cynical liar.

184 RogueOne  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:07:57pm

re: #183 Gus 802

They exempted them from everything but taxes, mighty nice of them.

185 RogueOne  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:08:50pm

cya folks, have a good night

186 Lidane  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:10:44pm

re: #175 Mad Al-Jaffee

Zombies, on the other hand, are something I'll never get tired of. I love World War Z and the Walking Dead comic books.

Zombies are fun. I loved both Shaun of the Dead and Zombieland. World War Z is great, too. If you've never heard it, look for the audiobook version of WWZ is amazing. It's got a full cast of performers and was really well done.

My boyfriend got me reading The Walking Dead, but after reading each new issue, I need some kind of chick lit or comedy because it's so damned depressing. Really complex and well written, but depressing as all hell.

187 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:12:51pm

re: #186 Lidane

I haven't seen Zombieland yet. I think there's a World War Z movie being planned.

Walking Dead is pretty dark. I'm waiting for the library to get the most recent volumes of the trade paperbacks.

188 SasyMomaCat  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:13:16pm

slow but sure . . . missed the morning open, but while I wait for a program to run, thought I'd pop in and say hello . . .

189 Gus  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:15:09pm

re: #184 RogueOne

They exempted them from everything but taxes, mighty nice of them.

No, they actually get new tax exemptions which are covered in sections 3, 4, 5 and 6.

190 Kragar  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:15:42pm

re: #187 Mad Al-Jaffee

I haven't seen Zombieland yet. I think there's a World War Z movie being planned.

Walking Dead is pretty dark. I'm waiting for the library to get the most recent volumes of the trade paperbacks.

WWZ is currently in development, going to end up as 2 films from what I've heard.

Waiting to see the remake of the Crazies.

191 Lidane  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:16:23pm

re: #187 Mad Al-Jaffee

I haven't seen Zombieland yet.

Oh, you need to see that. It's not gory as much as it is funny as hell, especially with Woody Harrelson and his fixation on Twinkies, and all the rules that the main character has for life. Heh.

They just announced that the writers of Zombieland are going to write the screenplay for the upcoming Deadpool movie. That should be pretty good, I think.

192 SasyMomaCat  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:17:04pm

re: #191 Lidane

Would love to see that - the previews looked hilarious!

193 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:17:46pm

re: #191 Lidane

I heard that Walking Dead is being made into a tv series. I guess on cable (Maybe FX?)

194 SixDegrees  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:18:17pm

re: #176 Alouette

When LOTR was a big hit, weren't there a bunch of people who wanted to go and live in Middle Earth?

30 years ago, a guy I knew in high school was a total LOTR geek. He would throw LOTR parties, dress up, glue hair on his toes and otherwise make a complete outcast of himself.

It's not exactly a new phenomenon.

195 Lidane  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:18:28pm

re: #193 Mad Al-Jaffee

I heard that Walking Dead is being made into a tv series. I guess on cable (Maybe FX?)

Yep. It's going to be on AMC, and Frank Darabont is developing it.

196 Kragar  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:18:28pm

re: #191 Lidane

Oh, you need to see that. It's not gory as much as it is funny as hell, especially with Woody Harrelson and his fixation on Twinkies, and all the rules that the main character has for life. Heh.

They just announced that the writers of Zombieland are going to write the screenplay for the upcoming Deadpool movie. That should be pretty good, I think.

If they follow the pattern for the original Deadpool, hell yeah. If they go with the "Deadpool" project from the Wolverine movie, much suckage will result.

197 Lidane  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:20:13pm

re: #196 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

If they follow the pattern for the original Deadpool, hell yeah. If they go with the "Deadpool" project from the Wolverine movie, much suckage will result.

From what I understand, they're going with the "Merc With a Mouth" perspective, since both Ryan Reynolds and Marvel are keen on a real Deadpool film, with all the snark and breaking the fourth wall and everything. I hope that's what they do. It would be great.

198 SixDegrees  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:20:59pm

re: #153 Lidane

They also have fangs, feed on humans, and are also highly sexual, at least in the modern vampire myths.

In Twilight, they're "vegetarians" (i.e., they feed on animals, not people, so they're not only sparkly, but non-threatening too), they lack fangs and just have razor sharp teeth instead, and the text strongly hints that Edward was a virgin when he became a vampire at 18 and stayed one until he met Bella 90+ years later, and he'd only have sex with her after marrying her because of his "values".

It's the most sterile, sexless version of a vampire story I've ever read, and that's saying something when you realize that Bram Stoker's book came out during the Victorian era. =P

Stoker was a strange dude. Check out his other novel, Lair of the White Worm, for some really twisted sexual deviancy hooked up with the occult. There's also a somewhat campy movie version of it.

199 Kragar  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:22:19pm

re: #197 Lidane

From what I understand, they're going with the "Merc With a Mouth" perspective, since both Ryan Reynolds and Marvel are keen on a real Deadpool film, with all the snark and breaking the fourth wall and everything. I hope that's what they do. It would be great.

Last I heard Ryan Reynolds was signed up for the Green Lantern. He's doing both?

200 aagcobb  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:23:04pm

I bet Obama's Kenyan birf certifikat is in the sekrit vault!

201 Vambo  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:23:16pm

re: #190 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)


Waiting to see the remake of the Crazies.

also Motel Hell, although that one will probably suck.

B-movies should be left alone. They weren't that great to begin with (except Motel Hell which is awesome) - is it really that hard to write a NEW craptastic movie?

202 Lidane  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:23:18pm

re: #199 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Last I heard Ryan Reynolds was signed up for the Green Lantern. He's doing both?

Yep. He's doing both.

203 Slap  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:24:27pm

re: #198 SixDegrees

I almost downdinged for the EXTREME understatement about the Lair of the White Worm film. It was a Ken Russell movie, by cracky -- the universe where the concept of "excess" does not exist in any form.....

204 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:24:35pm

re: #201 Vambo

also Motel Hell, although that one will probably suck.

B-movies should be left alone. They weren't that great to begin with (except Motel Hell which is awesome) - is it really that hard to write a NEW craptastic movie?

Whoever wrote the Transformers movies was able to. Or so I've heard - haven't seen either.

205 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:25:05pm

re: #168 Mad Al-Jaffee

I got tired of vampires after reading Anne Rice's thrid or fourth book and realized how stupid they were.

The last good vampire movie I saw was Near Dark.

Rice started out reasonably well, but as became a bestseller, I think her editors lost control. At one point I just got to a sentence in "The Feast of All Saints" and started laughing so hard that I was never able to read Anne Rice again.

206 metrolibertarian  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:26:08pm

re: #204 Mad Al-Jaffee

Whoever wrote the Transformers movies was able to. Or so I've heard - haven't seen either.

Not just the writer, but the braindead idiot Michael Bay deserves a lot of credit for how awful those movies are. The shithead seems to think explosions + special effects = plot.

207 KansasMom  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:26:56pm

World War Z is on my tbr list....which is growing fast.

I had been off the whole vampire kick since Anne Rice lost her mojo....then True Blood came out and I picked up the first of the books it was based on. Sucked right back in (pun intended).
There are some really good vampire books out there right now. (Octavia Butler's Fledgeling comes to mind.)
As for Twilight, its like a playbook for stalker/controlling boyfriends. Just ain't right that so many teenage girls are fawning over it.

208 Lidane  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:27:13pm

re: #205 SanFranciscoZionist

I quit reading Anne Rice after "preternatural" became her favorite word to describe a vampire. Or maybe it was when I read one of her witch novels, only to have the plot come to a screeching halt due to the 74127541519 pages of Mayfair witch family history in the middle of the book. I can't quite remember.

209 Vambo  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:27:21pm

re: #204 Mad Al-Jaffee

Whoever wrote the Transformers movies was able to. Or so I've heard - haven't seen either.

me neither, but I'm pretty sure it sucks. Then there's all of the sci-fi channel original movies, which seem to come off an assembly line.

210 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:27:31pm

re: #205 SanFranciscoZionist

Rice started out reasonably well, but as became a bestseller, I think her editors lost control. At one point I just got to a sentence in "The Feast of All Saints" and started laughing so hard that I was never able to read Anne Rice again.

Yeah, she got sillier as she went on. I gave up on the Dexter books after the third one. Still like the show though.

211 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:28:56pm

One of the best sci fi/horror graphic novels I've read is Black Hole by Charles Burns. Just finished reading it a couple of days ago.

212 Kragar  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:29:48pm

re: #210 Mad Al-Jaffee

Yeah, she got sillier as she went on. I gave up on the Dexter books after the third one. Still like the show though.

The show was a lot better than the books.

213 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:30:36pm

re: #161 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm just bored with vampires. If it has fangs and a Byronesque appeal, I just don't want to hear about it. The Anita Blake books burned me out even before Twilight came on the scene.

The new supernatural fad for teen fiction will be...

MUMMIES. I'm calling it right now.

214 SixDegrees  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:31:06pm

re: #203 Slap

I almost downdinged for the EXTREME understatement about the Lair of the White Worm film. It was a Ken Russell movie, by cracky -- the universe where the concept of "excess" does not exist in any form...

I enjoyed it a lot.

Amanda Donohoe's nude scenes didn't hurt a bit, either.

215 Vambo  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:31:34pm

re: #213 WindUpBird

The new supernatural fad for teen fiction will be...

MUMMIES. I'm calling it right now.

eh, my bet's on the Chupacabra.

216 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:31:43pm

This discussion is making me think of the "Werewolf Bar Mitzvah" scene from 30 Rock.

217 Lidane  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:32:56pm

re: #204 Mad Al-Jaffee

The Transformers films were written by Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman. They work with J.J. Abrams a lot, since they also wrote Mission Impossible III and the new Star Trek film, along with episodes of Alias and Fringe.

They're not bad writers. They just had crap material to work with, I think.

218 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:32:59pm

re: #215 Vambo

eh, my bet's on the Chupacabra.

I want to see a remake of Day of the Animals!

219 SasyMomaCat  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:33:09pm

re: #210 Mad Al-Jaffee

I'm interested to see where they are going with the show, given the twist at the end of the season. (won't spoil, as I'm sure there are some that still haven't yet caught up)

220 SixDegrees  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:33:18pm

re: #213 WindUpBird

The new supernatural fad for teen fiction will be...

MUMMIES. I'm calling it right now.

Anne Rice did a novel on the topic several years ago. The mummy in question is smokin' hawt after reincarnation, as you might imagine.

221 KansasMom  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:33:27pm

re: #213 WindUpBird

The new supernatural fad for teen fiction will be...

MUMMIES. I'm calling it right now.

Scary Fairies. No joke.

222 ArchangelMichael  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:33:51pm

re: #213 WindUpBird

The new supernatural fad for teen fiction will be...

MUMMIES. I'm calling it right now.

During one of George Carlin's shows from the mid 90s he was complaining about "all this bullshit about Angels" and asked "where are goblins or the zombies". Well we got the zombies now... we are up to our eyeballs in zombie shit now so maybe Goblins are next.

223 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:34:27pm

re: #217 Lidane

The Transformers films were written by Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman. They work with J.J. Abrams a lot, since they also wrote Mission Impossible III and the new Star Trek film, along with episodes of Alias and Fringe.


Abrams also directed Cloverfield, which I loved.

224 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:35:24pm

re: #219 SasyMomaCat

I'm interested to see where they are going with the show, given the twist at the end of the season. (won't spoil, as I'm sure there are some that still haven't yet caught up)

Yeah, next season should be interesting. I was blown away by the ending.

225 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:35:46pm

re: #213 WindUpBird

The new supernatural fad for teen fiction will be...

MUMMIES. I'm calling it right now.

OK. Might work.

226 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:36:13pm

re: #221 KansasMom

Scary Fairies. No joke.

Golems will be the vampires of 2010.

227 Lidane  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:36:58pm

re: #207 KansasMom

As for Twilight, its like a playbook for stalker/controlling boyfriends. Just ain't right that so many teenage girls are fawning over it.

I think that's because a lot of people aren't really paying attention to what's in the books. They hear about a sparkly, non-threatening vampire who stays a virgin for his perfect girl, who he won't sleep with until marriage, and they assume it's all okay.

There's a lot of creepy stalker behavior in the books, including Edward removing the engine from Bella's car to keep her from seeing a guy he doesn't like. And don't even get me started on the horror show that is her pregnancy from the last book, including the Caesarean by teeth (yes, really). It's just bizarre.

228 Kragar  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:37:36pm

re: #226 Mad Al-Jaffee

Golems will be the vampires of 2010.

What has it gots in its pocketses?

//

229 SasyMomaCat  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:39:02pm

re: #224 Mad Al-Jaffee

It certainly presents some challenges. Another fan told me he saw it coming because of some implications during the season, but I think that twist complicates things more for Dexter rather than freeing him up, like this other fan suggested.

230 ArchangelMichael  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 1:40:31pm

re: #207 KansasMom

As for Twilight, its like a playbook for stalker/controlling boyfriends. Just ain't right that so many teenage girls are fawning over it.

My ex told me that Edward spends a great deal of time in the books, staring at Bella through her bedroom window watching her sleep. My response was "this is psycho stalker bullshit, you like this?"

231 The Left  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 2:05:46pm

re: #227 Lidane

I think that's because a lot of people aren't really paying attention to what's in the books. They hear about a sparkly, non-threatening vampire who stays a virgin for his perfect girl, who he won't sleep with until marriage, and they assume it's all okay.

There's a lot of creepy stalker behavior in the books, including Edward removing the engine from Bella's car to keep her from seeing a guy he doesn't like. And don't even get me started on the horror show that is her pregnancy from the last book, including the Caesarean by teeth (yes, really). It's just bizarre.

I still haven't read any of the Twilight books or seen the films. I did read an article somewhere that catalogued all the creepy stalker-ish behaviour of Edward. The article argued that far from these books offering a 'safe' fantasy of sexuality and the perfect boyfriend (he'll protect you, and never, ever act on those dangerous urges you both have), they actually glamorised a great deal of scary male/female behaviour.
The writer was incensed by the last book's horror show pregnancy, but most of her concerns dated from even the first book, in re: the edward/bella dynamic.
I'll see if I can dig it up. May have been a blog post on a feminist blog somewhere.

232 The Left  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 2:06:57pm

re: #230 ArchangelMichael

My ex told me that Edward spends a great deal of time in the books, staring at Bella through her bedroom window watching her sleep. My response was "this is psycho stalker bullshit, you like this?"

That's what I'm talking about. WTF?

233 windsagio  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 2:08:28pm

re: #227 Lidane

re: #231 iceweasel

funny and bizarre reviews of Breaking Dawn

The book sounds just totally freaking insane. Enraged fans are always fun to read also

234 The Left  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 2:12:45pm

re: #233 windsagio

re: #231 iceweasel

funny and bizarre reviews of Breaking Dawn

The book sounds just totally freaking insane. Enraged fans are always fun to read also

Didn't Stephanie Meyer have to shut down comments on her web page or put up a post defending "Breaking Dawn" when it came out (or both) because of the deluge of rage coming from incensed fans?

235 windsagio  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 2:14:59pm

re: #234 iceweasel

Yeah.

So many people almost got that book as joke gifts for Christmas.

236 Gus  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 2:15:27pm

Going to have some fun with some previous Executive Orders.

Executive Order: President Bush Designates The ITER International Fusion Energy Organization As a Public International Organization

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act (22 U.S.C. 288), and finding that the United States participates in the ITER International Fusion Energy Organization under the authority of acts of Congress authorizing such participation and making an appropriation for such participation, including sections 971 and 972 of the Energy Policy Act of 2005 (42 U.S.C. 16311 and 16312) and laws making appropriations for the Department of Energy, it is hereby ordered as follows:

Section 1. Designation. I hereby designate the ITER International Fusion Energy Organization as a public international organization entitled to enjoy the privileges, exemptions, and immunities provided by the International Organizations Immunities Act.

Sec. 2. Non-Abridgement. This designation is not intended to abridge in any respect privileges, exemptions, or immunities that the ITER International Fusion Energy Organization otherwise may have acquired or may acquire by law.

GEORGE W. BUSH

THE WHITE HOUSE,

November 19, 2007.

Sekrit vault for "foreign" nuclear group!

237 Gus  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 2:16:34pm

Executive Order: European Central Bank

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including sections 1 and 15 of the International Organizations Immunities Act (22 U.S.C. 288 and 288f-5), I hereby extend to the European Central Bank the privileges, exemptions, and immunities provided to public international organizations designated by the President under the International Organizations Immunities Act.

This extension of such privileges, exemptions, and immunities is not intended to abridge in any respect privileges, exemptions, or immunities that the European Central Bank otherwise may have acquired or may acquire by international agreements or by law.

GEORGE W. BUSH
THE WHITE HOUSE,
May 29, 2003.

Sekrit vault for European!11!111 bank!11!11

238 Gus  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 2:17:48pm

Executive Order: Designating the African Union as a Public International Organization Entitled to Enjoy Certain Privileges, Exemptions, and Immunities

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including sections 1 and 12 of the International Organizations Immunities Act (22 U.S.C. 288 and 288f 2), as amended by section 569(h) of the Foreign Operations, Export Financing, and Related Programs Appropriations Act, 2005 (Division D of Public Law 108-447), it is hereby ordered as follows:

Section 1. Designation. The African Union is hereby designated as a public international organization entitled to enjoy the privileges, exemptions, and immunities provided by the International Organizations Immunities Act.

Sec. 2. Non-Abridgement. The designation in section 1 of this order is not intended to abridge in any respect privileges, exemptions, or immunities that the African Union otherwise may have acquired or may acquire by law.

Sec. 3. Revocation. Executive Order 11767 of February 19, 1974, is revoked.

GEORGE W. BUSH

THE WHITE HOUSE,

April 13, 2005.

Sekrt vault for the African Union!!1!!11

239 andres  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 3:16:52pm

re: #218 Mad Al-Jaffee

I want to see a remake of Day of the Animals!

With Chemo Soto[0] as the main character!

----
[0] Chemo Soto is the mayor of Canovanas, Puerto Rico. He's "renowned" (aka ridiculed) as a Chupacabra Hunter.

240 jamesfirecat  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 3:43:05pm

re: #50 Dark_Falcon

They have Jedi churches and Klingon dictionaries these days. The list of people who take SciFi too seriously is a long one.

Hey who are you to look down on the Jedi faith, I bet those people get a more complete experience than Scientoligists do!

241 jamesfirecat  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 3:58:12pm

re: #170 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

In Necrosope, the source of Vampirism was a parasite which attached to the victims brain and allowed the production of an enzyme allowing massive restructuring of the living tissue. They made Vlad the Impaler seem like a reasonable fellow. They saw no reason to be charming when you could combine several dozen thralls into a killing machine the size of an elephant and tear your rivals into bits.

Hey Vlad the Implaer was a "reasonable fellow" he's like King Arthur in Transylvania.

Besides, I'm sure if he was alive today the "tough of terrorists" people would be falling at their feet to worship what a firm hand he took when it came to dealing with the Muslims....

242 Lidane  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 4:06:15pm

re: #231 iceweasel

I still haven't read any of the Twilight books or seen the films.

You're not missing much, believe me.

I did read an article somewhere that catalogued all the creepy stalker-ish behaviour of Edward. The article argued that far from these books offering a 'safe' fantasy of sexuality and the perfect boyfriend (he'll protect you, and never, ever act on those dangerous urges you both have), they actually glamorised a great deal of scary male/female behaviour.

Oh, if anyone wants a handy blog that details the dysfunction and general "WTF?" nature of these books, I recommend this one:

Mark Reads Twilight (So You Don't Have To)

He's been reading and reviewing the entire series chapter by chapter from the beginning. If you start from his August 2009 archives and read through until now, he gives one of the funniest, yet completely human takes on this series of books I've read.

243 The Left  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 4:07:01pm

re: #242 Lidane

Favourited! I'll check that out. Sounds great!

244 What, me worry?  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 4:18:33pm

re: #241 jamesfirecat

Hey Vlad the Implaer was a "reasonable fellow" he's like King Arthur in Transylvania.

Besides, I'm sure if he was alive today the "tough of terrorists" people would be falling at their feet to worship what a firm hand he took when it came to dealing with the Muslims...

What's up with the Hungarians? My grandmother was Hungarian. My dad traced her roots to 1776 in the Carpathian Mts. (I always had this fantasy we were gypsies, but enough about me ...)

The Hungarians also had the Countess Elizabeth Bathory, who believed she could retain her youth by bathing in the blood of virgins. So she tortured and killed about 650 of them. She was eventually tried and convicted and if I recall correctly, was locked in a tower where she died.

245 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 4:23:57pm

A really scary vampire book/movie, Salem's Lot.

Holy crap!

246 John Vreeland  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 9:07:53pm

If you think Wing Nut Daily is in danger of becoming like the Weekly World News then you haven't been paying attention. WND has always been its own best satire. Here's something they are selling by one of their best writers, Hal Lindsey. You just cannot make this stuff up.

247 Bingo.Long  Tue, Jan 12, 2010 11:57:01pm

Chuck Norris, you're one crazy motherfucker.

248 Kruk  Wed, Jan 13, 2010 12:50:35am

re: #58 SanFranciscoZionist

True, but I don't think anyone ever died from learning Klingon.

There been some who came close. A slight accent on the wrong syllable can turn "It's nice to meet you" into "Your mama". Klingon's a tricky language.

249 Kruk  Wed, Jan 13, 2010 12:53:52am

re: #231 iceweasel


The writer was incensed by the last book's horror show pregnancy, but most of her concerns dated from even the first book, in re: the edward/bella dynamic.
I'll see if I can dig it up. May have been a blog post on a feminist blog somewhere.

The best Twilight snark ever:

250 suchislife  Wed, Jan 13, 2010 4:12:58am

Here's a clip showing what would happen if that Twilight guy tried all this on Buffy:

and a vampire movie I really loved was Let the right one in, [Link: www.imdb.com...]

251 The Left  Wed, Jan 13, 2010 4:38:38am

re: #250 suchislife

Here's a clip showing what would happen if that Twilight guy tried all this on Buffy:

[Video]and a vampire movie I really loved was Let the right one in, [Link: www.imdb.com...]

AHAHAHAHA--

LOVE buffy. :)

And let the right one in is one of the best movies of the last year IMO. And it's barely about vampires at all, really. It's about loneliness.
And visually stunning. I can't recommend it highly enough. Thanks for this.

252 suchislife  Wed, Jan 13, 2010 4:52:26am

re: #251 iceweasel

AHAHAHAHA--

LOVE buffy. :)

I know, right? And this is exactly why.

And let the right one in is one of the best movies of the last year IMO. And it's barely about vampires at all, really. It's about loneliness.
And visually stunning. I can't recommend it highly enough. Thanks for this.

Yes, in my mind, I saw snow flakes drifting through the dark for days. I'm not sure about your other point though, or rather, I have to disagree completely! :-) I thought that the great thing about this movie was that it went beyond the metaphor thing.

253 suchislife  Wed, Jan 13, 2010 4:53:00am

re: #252 suchislife

hmm, messed up the blockquotes

254 The Left  Wed, Jan 13, 2010 4:55:49am

re: #252 suchislife

I know, right? And this is exactly why.

And let the right one in is one of the best movies of the last year IMO. And it's barely about vampires at all, really. It's about loneliness.
And visually stunning. I can't recommend it highly enough. Thanks for this.

Yes, in my mind, I saw snow flakes drifting through the dark for days. I'm not sure about your other point though, or rather, I have to disagree completely! :-) I thought that the great thing about this movie was that it went beyond the metaphor thing.

Cool. Say more? I ask because I've talked about Let the Right One In on here before, but didn't find anyone who'd seen it. If you disagree with me that's all to the better, as I would love to hear (well, read) your thoughts.

255 suchislife  Wed, Jan 13, 2010 5:15:36am

I'm trying to write it down right now, but it's always so hard to put thoughts into words without sounding very pretentious and overly thinky, and also it's hard to get all you want to say in without it becoming an essay. I'm hoping that commenting will help me get a bit over this tendency. So, short points:

256 suchislife  Wed, Jan 13, 2010 5:17:14am

When a vampire is not just a metaphor for whatever, you have to adress the question of how a human being could relate to such a being, namely a being that doesn’t age physically, that preys on human beings the way we prey on other animals, that is stronger than any individual, but a lot weaker then the community.

257 The Left  Wed, Jan 13, 2010 5:17:50am

re: #255 suchislife

I'm trying to write it down right now, but it's always so hard to put thoughts into words without sounding very pretentious and overly thinky, and also it's hard to get all you want to say in without it becoming an essay. I'm hoping that commenting will help me get a bit over this tendency. So, short points:

Well, 'pretentious', thinky and essay-length won't be any barrier to me reading it and liking it, I assure you. Plus I think we're the only ones on this thread, so go for it!!!

258 The Left  Wed, Jan 13, 2010 5:19:54am

Ok, waiting for you to get all your thoughts out. Really like it all so far. I will shut up now I promise.

259 suchislife  Wed, Jan 13, 2010 5:20:47am

And I think the movie makes a number of interesting points on this. EG, such a being could have a successful mutually beneficial relationship with a human being, but only if that human being was at once capable of appreciating kindness, loyalty, etc, and sufficiently estranged from the rest of his species.

260 suchislife  Wed, Jan 13, 2010 5:26:12am

Really, I just realized that's basically it!! Well, there's always details, of course. The reason why I don't proudly own the pretentiousness, etc thing I mentioned is because with me, it so very often means that I'm not clear on what I want to say yet, and then it tends to become really simple. It's different for other people. I should really find a different way of putting it.

261 suchislife  Wed, Jan 13, 2010 5:32:03am

I have to go offline, but if you leave another comment, I'll be sure to read it later.

262 The Left  Wed, Jan 13, 2010 5:38:05am

Well, none of that sounded in the least 'pretentious' to me. I should add here that I'm incredibly ignorant about movies. I like what I like and I'm woefully ignorant of all the things that I'm told are really important: angles, shots, etc. My mind just doesn't work that way, even when I see them with people who know much more about it and explain things to me.

re: #259 suchislife

And I think the movie makes a number of interesting points on this. EG, such a being could have a successful mutually beneficial relationship with a human being, but only if that human being was at once capable of appreciating kindness, loyalty, etc, and sufficiently estranged from the rest of his species.

That last bit strikes me as very important, We're given to understand, in the movie, (though i hear this is made much clearer in the novel) that Eli's former protector is a paedophile. As such, he's also estranged from the species.
Would love to hear more of your thoughts on it all later, bookmarking this thread. Still not sure where you disagreed with me-- which is cool, I look forward to that, I like that.
Have to go myself now-- see you later, thanks again.

263 suchislife  Wed, Jan 13, 2010 5:46:59am

Just logging back on to add something:
Very often in fiction, human beings ally themselves with a vampire due to some romantic love based on sexual attraction. But here, she’s not really that, but rather the best friend, confidant, ally against both family and peer group pressure, partner in crime, first person you get and who gets you figure that some people are lucky enough to meet when they first grow up.
That, to me, is a much more plausible permanent bond to an alien being that would cause you to leave your whole community behind in a radical sense, and the whole sex thing seems to be based on that, rather then being the base itself. And we learn in the end that this bond can actually morph into an equally durable one, namely the bond of a parent to his child, because the vampire doesn’t age physically. That’s a symbiotic relationship between human being and vampire that makes sense to me, it corresponds to what I think about bonds and people.

264 suchislife  Wed, Jan 13, 2010 5:55:03am

re: #251 iceweasel

And it's barely about vampires at all, really. It's about loneliness.

Here's where I disagree. I think it's a movie about vampires, and about what loneliness means in the context of the idea of a vampire friend. Not about loneliness, with vampires added as a prop to make the point. I think it implies things about human beings that have nothing to do with anything supernatural, and maybe these things are to some people what is central to the movie, but I think if you took out the fact that eli is a vampire, or sort of replaced that with some other idea (say she's a psychopath serial killer, she's just another loner, she's an alien that doesn't prey on human beings, she's invulnerable), it would not be a variation on a theme, but a completely different movie.


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