In light of Mahathir Mohamad’s idiotic remarks about 9/11 being a Hollywood CGI fantasy, LGF reader Lawhawk reminded us today that he’s been doing a terrific job covering the ongoing semi-debacle of the rebuilding of Ground Zero in Manhattan.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 22, 2010 1:48:50pm |
Great work, LAWHAWK
Thanks for pointing it out, Charles
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Digital Display Fri, Jan 22, 2010 1:53:47pm |
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huggy77 Fri, Jan 22, 2010 1:54:59pm |
For a while i worked right across the street from that hallowed ground... I lost alot of friends and classmates when the towers went down - when they do actually put something there i hope it is a fitting tribute to those who lost their lives.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jan 22, 2010 1:55:52pm |
re: #8 brookly red
I think we overloaded his server already.
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Digital Display Fri, Jan 22, 2010 1:56:13pm |
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brookly red Fri, Jan 22, 2010 1:56:18pm |
re: #7 huggy77
For a while i worked right across the street from that hallowed ground... I lost alot of friends and classmates when the towers went down - when they do actually put something there i hope it is a fitting tribute to those who lost their lives.
I think the current design is just awful...
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 22, 2010 1:56:21pm |
maybe it represenst the building thats NOT THERE after all this time!!
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Jan 22, 2010 1:56:33pm |
re: #9 Killgore Trout
I think we overloaded his server already.
I don't think so, it let me go to the home page, with a click!
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albusteve Fri, Jan 22, 2010 1:57:38pm |
re: #12 brookly red
I think the current design is just awful...
so do I...I want the Towers back, or something similar, powerful looking
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Jan 22, 2010 1:58:10pm |
Charles, you could not have picked a better poster to feature, and timely as can be. Thanks.
LAWHAWK
Congratulations, it is a great series, and BTW you do have some of the sharpest, most cogent posts at LGF. Love your stuff here.
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albusteve Fri, Jan 22, 2010 1:58:30pm |
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CapeCoddah Fri, Jan 22, 2010 1:58:47pm |
re: #5 Floral Giraffe
I cleared my cache and reloaded the page..
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albusteve Fri, Jan 22, 2010 1:59:17pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 22, 2010 1:59:20pm |
re: #16 albusteve
so do I...I want the Towers back, or something similar, powerful looking
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brookly red Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:00:53pm |
re: #16 albusteve
so do I...I want the Towers back, or something similar, powerful looking
my choice would be a memorial, but if they are going to build there it should be something more meaningful that an office building & much more secure too if you know what I mean.
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Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:01:35pm |
Alright, who told them about the Zionist checks for the frequent commenters here? You do realize that you could be stoned for that, don't you?
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abolitionist Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:02:01pm |
re: #21 albusteve
that works, thanks
I used the Select a label function in the left column, looking for Ground Zero.
:)
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albusteve Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:02:41pm |
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CapeCoddah Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:02:47pm |
re: #24 brookly red
I think rebuilding the towers would speak volumes to the terrorists and be the best memorial to the dead.. a big screw you to those that murdered them. That is what I would have wanted had I been in those towers... and add a floor.
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albusteve Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:05:03pm |
re: #24 brookly red
my choice would be a memorial, but if they are going to build there it should be something more meaningful that an office building & much more secure too if you know what I mean.
that skinny needly thing just does not evoke strength...too delicate looking compared to the massive skyline around there...I want a beast of a structure
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:07:10pm |
Outrageous outrage of the day: Chiligate!
Obama: 'Bowl of chili, I can afford'
Inside, President Barack Obama met a 98-year-old Charles Raynor.
"I am just pleased to see Charlie is still eating fries at 98," Obama said as he posed for a photograph with the patron.
Greeting Shawn Hatcher, celebrating his 42nd birthday, the president proclaimed: "Nothing wrong with 42. I am 48... I am going to buy this guy's lunch."
Told the man's order was chili, Obama said: "A bowl of chili, I can afford."
Dan Riehl sez.....
Oof!: Obama's Restaurant Comment, So "Camelot-ish"
....
Yeah, I guess he can afford a bowl of chili, alright. Just don't let the Mrs. spill it on her $3,000 jacket. The cleaning bill might cost you.
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brookly red Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:07:49pm |
re: #29 albusteve
that skinny needly thing just does not evoke strength...too delicate looking compared to the massive skyline around there...I want a beast of a structure
the site it self will forever be a target... I would have like to have seen a shorter, bunker like building as a new and secure home for the stock market & emergency command center.
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Donna Ballard Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:07:54pm |
I've learned a lot from you Lawhawk in my short time as a lizard, may your Blog be as successful and insightful as LGF. Congratulations and here's to many years to come of insightful bloging. Cheers!
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Racer X Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:10:27pm |
Shipping Container Subway Shop Scales the Freedom Tower
New York City’s Freedom Tower is currently 5 stories high, and as it grows taller and taller it could take up to 45 minutes for construction workers to get to the bottom, making it impossible to go out for lunch during their half hour break.
That’s why the project’s contractors have hired sandwich maker Subway to build a restaurant at the same level as the ongoing construction. Last week, the franchise hoisted nine shipping containers alongside the tower, which will serve the construction workers with the same menu offered on street level – even the freshly baked bread.
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Digital Display Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:11:31pm |
re: #36 Racer X
Shipping Container Subway Shop Scales the Freedom Tower
New York City’s Freedom Tower is currently 5 stories high, and as it grows taller and taller it could take up to 45 minutes for construction workers to get to the bottom, making it impossible to go out for lunch during their half hour break.
That’s why the project’s contractors have hired sandwich maker Subway to build a restaurant at the same level as the ongoing construction. Last week, the franchise hoisted nine shipping containers alongside the tower, which will serve the construction workers with the same menu offered on street level – even the freshly baked bread.
I'd call Jimmy johns
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:13:09pm |
Sitting in hotel lobby. Beck's on. Lots of commies and nazis keep flashing on the screen.
Not watching, but, damn dude! Lighten up!
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brookly red Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:14:33pm |
re: #38 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Sitting in hotel lobby. Beck's on. Lots of commies and nazis keep flashing on the screen.
Not watching, but, damn dude! Lighten up!
interesting choice for a hotel lobby... what city?
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albusteve Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:15:03pm |
re: #36 Racer X
Shipping Container Subway Shop Scales the Freedom Tower
New York City’s Freedom Tower is currently 5 stories high, and as it grows taller and taller it could take up to 45 minutes for construction workers to get to the bottom, making it impossible to go out for lunch during their half hour break.
That’s why the project’s contractors have hired sandwich maker Subway to build a restaurant at the same level as the ongoing construction. Last week, the franchise hoisted nine shipping containers alongside the tower, which will serve the construction workers with the same menu offered on street level – even the freshly baked bread.
next...a saloon for after work...call it the High Stool
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CapeCoddah Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:15:11pm |
re: #38 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Sitting in hotel lobby. Beck's on. Lots of commies and nazis keep flashing on the screen.
Not watching, but, damn dude! Lighten up!
I heard a commercial for a Beck show on commies and nazis a couple of days ago for Friday... I will not be watching that kook for any reason.
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:15:14pm |
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:15:31pm |
re: #38 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Sitting in hotel lobby. Beck's on. Lots of commies and nazis keep flashing on the screen.
Not watching, but, damn dude! Lighten up!
Yeah, he's doing some special "secret" history thing tonight about all the hidden evils of communism and fascism that are hidden by our liberal public school system.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:15:37pm |
re: #39 brookly red
interesting choice for a hotel lobby... what city?
Lewisburg, WV. Holiday Inn. Purdy lobby too...
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:15:48pm |
re: #39 brookly red
interesting choice for a hotel lobby... what city?
Not really. They'll (hotels) will usually have either CNN or FoxNews on
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brookly red Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:16:45pm |
re: #45 sattv4u2
Not really. They'll (hotels) will usually have either CNN or FoxNews on
not the ones I go to ;)
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:16:50pm |
re: #30 Killgore Trout
Outrageous outrage of the day: Chiligate!
Obama: 'Bowl of chili, I can afford'
Ummm...he bought the man lunch. What would Dan Riehl like him to in this case?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:17:19pm |
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huggy77 Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:18:07pm |
he is doing a show about che and mao today... Are we taking bets on whether he cries this afternoon... He was on Imus this morning and was actually pretty funny.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:18:13pm |
re: #47 SanFranciscoZionist
Ummm...he bought the man lunch. What would Dan Riehl like him to in this case?
He should've said, "Chili? How pedestrian." And turned and walked out.
Mebbe that's what Dan wanted...
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:18:26pm |
re: #32 brookly red
the site it self will forever be a target... I would have like to have seen a shorter, bunker like building as a new and secure home for the stock market & emergency command center.
I would have left it as an open plaza.
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CapeCoddah Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:18:35pm |
re: #48 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
But... But... I heard him say I couldn't miss this episode!
*wringing hands*
LOL, you will be OK, I promise!
Please dont cry...
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CapeCoddah Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:19:24pm |
re: #49 huggy77
he is doing a show about che and mao today... Are we taking bets on whether he cries this afternoon... He was on Imus this morning and was actually pretty funny.
Dont worry, he will cry.. it is all he does.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:20:04pm |
re: #43 Killgore Trout
Yeah, he's doing some special "secret" history thing tonight about all the hidden evils of communism and fascism that are hidden by our liberal public school system.
Yeah. I used to teach in public schools. We would sit around figuring out ways to teach fascism and communism and disguise it all as innocent grammar exercises.
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CapeCoddah Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:20:17pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:20:30pm |
He's wearing glasses again...
Time to find my glasses...
I likey the money I get for looking like him...
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brookly red Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:20:34pm |
re: #51 SanFranciscoZionist
I would have left it as an open plaza.
my first choice is a memorial, but if they are going to build it should be something enhances the security of the city. IMO.
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Digital Display Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:21:30pm |
re: #59 brookly red
my first choice is a memorial, but if they are going to build it should be something enhances the security of the city. IMO.
You are rooting for the Jets Sunday aren't you?
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Racer X Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:22:20pm |
re: #55 HoosierHoops
CRY BECK CRY!
Hey you would cry too if 'the world's best health care system' botched your ass surgery.
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CapeCoddah Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:22:25pm |
re: #59 brookly red
my first choice is a memorial, but if they are going to build it should be something enhances the security of the city. IMO.
Missile launchers?
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abolitionist Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:22:43pm |
At Lawhawk's site,
Thursday, December 31, 2009
The Rebuilding of Ground Zero, Part 90
UPDATE:
Curbed has more photos of Ground Zero, including an insider look at the 1WTC/Freedom Tower construction. The 9/11 Memorials are taking shape, including the walls that will eventually comprise the waterfalls at the heart of each of the tower "footprints".
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:23:16pm |
re: #47 SanFranciscoZionist
Don't you get it? The Chili is just a ploy! It's a false flag to distract from his radical fascist agenda of arrogance!
/Wingnut
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brookly red Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:23:24pm |
re: #60 HoosierHoops
You are rooting for the Jets Sunday aren't you?
Rooting yes (I am a Green Bay fan actually) thinking they have a snowman's chance in hell? not so much.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:24:29pm |
Hello. I must be going.
Have an appointment at a dilapidated single wide mobile home.
No, I'm not an elitist. I just don't understand why I have an appointment at a house that is collapsing. That's all.
I'm betting I'm about to make a PILE of money.
/
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brookly red Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:25:08pm |
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CapeCoddah Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:25:17pm |
re: #68 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Bet you will be able to retire in style!
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:25:24pm |
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CapeCoddah Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:25:42pm |
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brookly red Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:25:52pm |
re: #66 Killgore Trout
Don't you get it? The Chili is just a ploy! It's a false flag to distract from his radical fascist agenda of arrogance!
/Wingnut
no that was the speech.
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Racer X Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:28:24pm |
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:31:37pm |
re: #75 Racer X
My boss frowns upon that at work.
Heh.
But spending a few hours on the net is OK.
Seems unreasonable.
I'd call in the union rep.
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:31:37pm |
re: #74 albusteve
[Link: www.usatoday.com...]
Freedom Tower
It's gonna' be a big "FUCK YOU" to Bin Laden.
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brookly red Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:31:41pm |
re: #50 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
He should've said, "Chili? How pedestrian." And turned and walked out.
Mebbe that's what Dan wanted...
/Chili? no thank you... I'll just have a cup of tea.
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brookly red Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:32:13pm |
re: #77 MandyManners
It's gonna' be a big "FUCK YOU" to Bin Laden.
more like an invitation to try it again...
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:32:29pm |
This is interesting....
Right-wing Saudi dynasty endorses right-wing Fox News dynasty.
The prince met with Murdoch last week to discuss a “future potential alliance with News Corp,” and he told Charlie Rose Wednesday about his respect for the Murdoch dynasty:
ALWALEED: I met with Mr. Rupert Murdoch and Mr. James Murdoch. We are always in tough. I’m second biggest shareholder there. And no doubt that News Corp is moving on all the fronts. You’ve seen how FOX rating is skyrocketing. … James is now managing Europe and Asia. … I’ll be the first one to nominate him to be the successor of Mr. Rupert Murdoch, god forbid if something happens to him. … I have full confidence in [James], full trust in him, and he’s capable. He’s really Rupert Murdoch in the making, and he’s almost there now.
Alwaleed came to most Americans’ attention following the 9/11 terror attacks when New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani turned down a $10 million donation from Alwaleed over a controversial comment he had made about U.S. foreign policy. As Media Matters noted, several Fox News personalities criticized Alwaleed at the time. Fox News host Sean Hannity called Alwaleed’s comment an “egregious, outrageous, unfair offense.” That was before Alwaleed purchased a seven percent stake in its parent company.
Hmmmm, I'll have to think about this one.
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Digital Display Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:32:44pm |
re: #67 brookly red
Rooting yes (I am a Green Bay fan actually) thinking they have a snowman's chance in hell? not so much.
I have never seen a Colts team want revenge on a team so badly.. They are highly motivated and pissed off.. I say take the points...
unless Sanchez can score 31-41 points Sunday it's all over..
The Jets are talking trash alot.. The Colts are seething...
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Racer X Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:33:52pm |
re: #76 Spare O'Lake
Heh.
But spending a few hours on the net is OK.
Seems unreasonable.
I'd call in the union rep.
Hey I just said he frowns on it. I didn't say I wasn't drinking Scotch.
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Gus Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:34:06pm |
That link to Lawhawk's page is coming up "empty."
This one seems to work:
[Link: lawhawk.blogspot.com...]
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Racer X Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:34:20pm |
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:34:42pm |
re: #79 brookly red
more like an invitation to try it again...
But one that will never be acted upon.
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brookly red Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:35:23pm |
re: #81 HoosierHoops
I have never seen a Colts team want revenge on a team so badly.. They are highly motivated and pissed off.. I say take the points...
unless Sanchez can score 31-41 points Sunday it's all over..
The Jets are talking trash alot.. The Colts are seething...
Seething? It may be their undoing... revenge is best served cold after all.
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:35:45pm |
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brookly red Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:37:16pm |
re: #85 MandyManners
But one that will never be acted upon.
I hope you are right, but I am sure the plans are already being made... no New Yorker I know has any intention of ever setting foot in it.
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Slap Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:38:30pm |
re: #56 SanFranciscoZionist
Hey, SFV -- from downstairs, and late, I know -- but regarding kosher turkey bacon:
I talked with our meat guy, and he knows of no one right offhand; plenty of farms that produce turkey bacon, none that possess kosher-qualified facilities or procedures -- and, unfortunately, vice versa: those that are kosher don't make the bacon.
I am guessing you probably know of this place:
[Link: oaklandkosherfoods.com...]
From what I've been seeing, it seems like they know their business pretty well, and might know of a small producer somewhere. It's a really intriguing question, one that I'll idly follow up on with my contacts here as I get the opportunity.
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CapeCoddah Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:39:16pm |
re: #79 brookly red
more like an invitation to try it again...
Brookly, if we hide, they win. Never hide from a bully, you break his nose.
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:39:55pm |
re: #88 brookly red
I hope you are right, but I am sure the plans are already being made... no New Yorker I know has any intention of ever setting foot in it.
Forgive me, but I find that very difficult to understand.
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Racer X Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:40:34pm |
re: #87 MandyManners
No dialysis clinics in Waziristan?
There is a collapsed cave up in the mountains of Waziristan that has Osama bits scattered throughout the interior. Never to be found.
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:40:42pm |
re: #88 brookly red
I hope you are right, but I am sure the plans are already being made... no New Yorker I know has any intention of ever setting foot in it.
Why not?
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brookly red Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:40:59pm |
re: #90 CapeCoddah
Brookly, if we hide, they win. Never hide from a bully, you break his nose.
exactly... we should be rebuilding with that in mind not some ugly ass glass tower that can't be protected.
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:41:17pm |
re: #92 Racer X
There is a collapsed cave up in the mountains of Waziristan that has Osama bits scattered throughout the interior. Never to be found.
Or, a flattened Bin Laden.
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Racer X Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:41:35pm |
re: #90 CapeCoddah
Brookly, if we hide, they win. Never hide from a bully, you break his nose.
Or invade their country and steal all the oil!
/moonbat mode off.
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Digital Display Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:41:39pm |
re: #86 brookly red
Seething? It may be their undoing... revenge is best served cold after all.
Yeah..I don't think so...The Colts are highly motivated for Sunday...More so than a couple of years ago when they won the SB... 10-31 Colts.. Rumors from camp..They don't want to win the game..The want to destroy loud mouth Rex and the Jet they came in on..
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:42:01pm |
re: #89 Slap
Hey, SFV -- from downstairs, and late, I know -- but regarding kosher turkey bacon:
I talked with our meat guy, and he knows of no one right offhand; plenty of farms that produce turkey bacon, none that possess kosher-qualified facilities or procedures -- and, unfortunately, vice versa: those that are kosher don't make the bacon.
I am guessing you probably know of this place:
[Link: oaklandkosherfoods.com...]
From what I've been seeing, it seems like they know their business pretty well, and might know of a small producer somewhere. It's a really intriguing question, one that I'll idly follow up on with my contacts here as I get the opportunity.
Thanks. Have had little luck. Bagua gave me a lot of links, but none appear to be quite the item.
I'd start a business myself if I knew the first thing about meatpacking, or selling bacon.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:42:12pm |
re: #88 brookly red
I hope you are right, but I am sure the plans are already being made... no New Yorker I know has any intention of ever setting foot in it.
Really? I have never heard that. Is it because you'd rather a memorial vs. a new building?
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brookly red Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:42:33pm |
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CapeCoddah Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:43:04pm |
re: #94 brookly red
exactly... we should be rebuilding with that in mind not some ugly ass glass tower that can't be protected.
I already said my preference would be an exact rebuild, with an additional floor. But, that's just me.
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:44:57pm |
re: #100 brookly red
1. out of respect for the dead
2. cause it is a giant bull's eye.
*sigh*
Have a great weekend.
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CapeCoddah Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:45:01pm |
re: #96 Racer X
Or invade their country and steal all the oil!
/moonbat mode off.
Like we did in Kuwait?
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Velvet Elvis Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:45:17pm |
re: #89 Slap
[Link: www.jews4bacon.com...]
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_RememberTonyC Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:45:38pm |
re: #97 HoosierHoops
Yeah..I don't think so...The Colts are highly motivated for Sunday...More so than a couple of years ago when they won the SB... 10-31 Colts.. Rumors from camp..They don't want to win the game..The want to destroy loud mouth Rex and the Jet they came in on..
I hope Indy crushes the jets .... I can't stand rex ryan .... he runs his mouth a lot for a guy who has never won squat ... I think Peyton will make us forget "Revis Island" right quick.
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Gus Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:46:01pm |
re: #74 albusteve
[Link: www.usatoday.com...]
Freedom Tower
Couple of more links:
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SixDegrees Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:46:16pm |
re: #30 Killgore Trout
Here's what ticked me off about today's tour of the rust belt, featuring stops in Pennsylvania and Ohio to commiserate with citizens about how bad unemployment is and how important jobs are.
He once again skipped Michigan.
We lead the nation in unemployment, and have for years now. Our manufacturing base continues to shrink, and nothing is taking it's place. Over half of the graduates from our state universities leave the state when they're done with school, further draining our talent pool and making business relocation to the state even less attractive.
In Detroit, unemployment is over 30%, the adult illiteracy rate is around 50%, and the city looks like a war zone, filled with abandoned properties too decrepit to be attractive even to crack dealers.
Yet Obama has never visited Detroit. He made a couple of token stops in Grand Rapids - basically, a well-off suburb of Chicago in the far western side of the state - but has avoided the most ravaged state in the nation like it was plague infested.
We can't quite claim that distinction yet. But a little acknowledgment - and, at a minimum, a slowing of the continual bleed-off of our Federal tax dollars, ranking us around 40th in return on Federal taxes in the nation - would be appreciated.
I won't be holding my breath. We also lead the nation in idiot politicians, and no one wants to get any of that on themselves by standing too close.
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garhighway Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:47:32pm |
re: #85 MandyManners
There was a strong sense during the design phase of the new WTC 1 that if they really went up to 100 stories, the top 40 or so would be un-rentable. (Commercial tenants would balk at taking the risk of renting those high floors. As it is, a lot of the early leases for space in that building are government agencies like the Port Authority. In the lower floors.) That's why the current design has most of the top filled with infrastructure and such. It really has a large "false top" to look higher than it really is.
It is easy for us to want a replica of the twin towers built on principle, but real people would be the one taking the risk. Secretaries, clerks, waiters, delivery guys and all the rest. And the Port Authority would be risking billions of dollars of public money. Discretion was called for.
I used to end my morning commute by coming out of a subway stop at Broadway and John St. The North Tower filled my field of vision as I climbed the stairs. More often than not, it had a pink tinge as the rising sun hit it. It was beautiful, and I miss it every day. But rebuilding it as is would have been a sentimental and prideful mistake.
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Gus Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:47:37pm |
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brookly red Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:48:37pm |
re: #101 CapeCoddah
I already said my preference would be an exact rebuild, with an additional floor. But, that's just me.
the original design was actually pretty good but it's is just not defendable ...
besides we already have a glut of office space here in NY.
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:49:17pm |
re: #100 brookly red
1. out of respect for the dead
2. cause it is a giant bull's eye.
Me? I'd figure it would be an act of defiance to go there. However, I'd have to take the stairs all the way up and down.
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:49:30pm |
re: #36 Racer X
Oh man they got screwed. Where is In N Out when you need them?
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:50:09pm |
re: #38 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
That guy just makes me want to clean the TV all over again...
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Digital Display Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:50:54pm |
re: #105 _RememberTonyC
I hope Indy crushes the jets ... I can't stand rex ryan ... he runs his mouth a lot for a guy who has never won squat ... I think Peyton will make us forget "Revis Island" right quick.
Exactly! Rex doesn't have Namaith playing Sunday.. But we have Peyton Manning..
Go Colts!
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:51:47pm |
re: #108 garhighway
There was a strong sense during the design phase of the new WTC 1 that if they really went up to 100 stories, the top 40 or so would be un-rentable. (Commercial tenants would balk at taking the risk of renting those high floors. As it is, a lot of the early leases for space in that building are government agencies like the Port Authority. In the lower floors.) That's why the current design has most of the top filled with infrastructure and such. It really has a large "false top" to look higher than it really is.
It is easy for us to want a replica of the twin towers built on principle, but real people would be the one taking the risk. Secretaries, clerks, waiters, delivery guys and all the rest. And the Port Authority would be risking billions of dollars of public money. Discretion was called for.
I used to end my morning commute by coming out of a subway stop at Broadway and John St. The North Tower filled my field of vision as I climbed the stairs. More often than not, it had a pink tinge as the rising sun hit it. It was beautiful, and I miss it every day. But rebuilding it as is would have been a sentimental and prideful mistake.
I can kinda' understand that but, isn't that also an admission that we're letting them win?
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:52:06pm |
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:52:10pm |
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:52:31pm |
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Racer X Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:52:34pm |
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Digital Display Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:52:47pm |
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brookly red Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:52:53pm |
re: #116 MandyManners
I can kinda' understand that but, isn't that also an admission that we're letting them win?
when at war build forts not sculptures...
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Digital Display Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:53:44pm |
re: #122 brookly red
when at war build forts not sculptures...
Know thy Enemy..
Just don't profile them..
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Kragar Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:53:49pm |
re: #118 MandyManners
Stop pounding it.
The object of my frustration is some 3000 miles away, so I can't deal with it properly and have to resort to creating a cranial shaped indentation to my desk.
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ArchangelMichael Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:54:45pm |
re: #38 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Sitting in hotel lobby. Beck's on. Lots of commies and nazis keep flashing on the screen.
Not watching, but, damn dude! Lighten up!
I was at a bar last night waiting for the power to be restored to my house and Beck was on one of the TVs there. I couldn't hear it and I couldn't read most of the CC from where I was sitting but I saw the word communism come up more times than I could count on 2 hands over the course of 5 minutes. I think he was also drawing a graph about Federal deficit spending and he had little pictures of GWB and Obama stuck up on the board too.
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:57:00pm |
Gotta' go wash my lettuce for BLAT sammiches.
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garhighway Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:57:21pm |
re: #116 MandyManners
"Letting them win" would be renouncing your religion because they demanded it. Or your system of government. Or paying them tribute. This is more like buckling your seat belt because you know there are drunk drivers on the road.
It was a building. With some symbolic and aesthetic value (although it was harshly reviewed when it was built), yes, but a building. If you were a corporate real estate manager, whose job was to arrange your firm's office space, would you take that risk? Would you roll the dice with your firm's future, if there was a 1% chance your company could end up like Cantor Fitzgerald? I wouldn't. And that was the calculation: how many potential tenants would do that math?
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:57:24pm |
re: #79 brookly red
Every standing building here, every American heartbeat, each and every plane, ship and church is an invitation to strike. I wish to withdraw exactly none of these "invitations". I hope he is listening. I have another invitation for him, but it's not suitable for this forum. It does bear a relation to recent comments about Trijicon though...
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CapeCoddah Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:57:33pm |
re: #124 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
The object of my frustration is some 3000 miles away, so I can't deal with it properly and have to resort to creating a cranial shaped indentation to my desk.
Careful, you can put an eye out like that..
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:57:41pm |
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Donna Ballard Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:57:41pm |
re: #112 Rightwingconspirator
Oh man they got screwed. Where is In N Out when you need them?
//
Okay, I'm back and oh my God you did not say that! Oh, are those sac tags I see? Unhuh. Mr. Cynic stricks again! :-P
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Kragar Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:58:18pm |
The 15 minute installation on my primary server turned into a 5 hour outage because some idiot never thought to use a phone.
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Donna Ballard Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:58:32pm |
re: #128 Rightwingconspirator
Every standing building here, every American heartbeat, each and every plane, ship and church is an invitation to strike. I wish to withdraw exactly none of these "invitations". I hope he is listening. I have another invitation for him, but it's not suitable for this forum. It does bear a relation to recent comments about Trijicon though...
Not to mention cross hairs....
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Donna Ballard Fri, Jan 22, 2010 2:59:36pm |
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:00:19pm |
re: #134 Dragon_Lady
Oh noes! There is a cross in the scope too? Will those guys at Trijicon never learn what this means? The Jihadis will be offended all over again!
//
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brookly red Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:00:50pm |
re: #102 Spare O'Lake
*sigh*
Have a great weekend.
I was recently doing a freelance gig about a block from the Empire State Building... I was issued a survival/evacuation kit with a glow stick, face mask and some other goodies that one normally does not need in the office.
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TampaKnight Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:02:30pm |
Bernanke is in for a tough fight to be re-appointed.
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Digital Display Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:02:38pm |
re: #124 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
The object of my frustration
Who'd I'd love to hit
is some 3000 miles away,
And it's giving me fits
so I can't deal with it properly
My heart had really started so softly
and have to resort
With the ball in my court
to creating
Cause we ain't relating
a cranial shaped indentation to my desk.
Cause today that's what I'll do best
You rap that to 50 cent..It's great..Try it..
*wink*
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Donna Ballard Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:03:01pm |
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garhighway Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:03:24pm |
re: #137 brookly red
We have those at my office, too. They are standard issue in NYC skyscrapers.
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CapeCoddah Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:04:47pm |
re: #138 TampaKnight
Bernanke is in for a tough fight to be re-appointed.
Yeah, said he promised to do better helping the economy...you mean he is NOT doing all he can or his best now? Why? Don't know if I would have made that particular statement.
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Digital Display Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:05:06pm |
re: #140 Dragon_Lady
I'll email you some aspirin...
Oh great you posted about drugs..Now Ad-sense will have Viagra ads in the sidebar...
/
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brookly red Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:05:18pm |
re: #141 garhighway
We have those at my office, too. They are standard issue in NYC skyscrapers.
the threat is real.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:06:25pm |
re: #142 CapeCoddah
He is going to have a tough fight. The Federal Reserve is not popular these days.
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garhighway Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:06:35pm |
re: #138 TampaKnight
That's a shame. The measures he took in the fall of 2008 really did save us from a depression. He was the right guy for that job. Although I would like him more if he proposed a serious way to keep it from happening again. That's what drives me nuts: it seems like everyone has already forgotten how bad it nearly was, and no one wants to fix it. (Of course, the big sums the finance industry drops on Congress probably have something to do with that. And post-Citizens United, it will be way worse.)
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CapeCoddah Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:06:42pm |
re: #144 brookly red
the threat is real.
It is real, but you cannot live your life fearful every minute of every day.. that must just suck.
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TampaKnight Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:06:50pm |
re: #142 CapeCoddah
Yeah, said he promised to do better helping the economy...you mean he is NOT doing all he can or his best now? Why? Don't know if I would have made that particular statement.
Interesting case. If you believe in the Fed system, I'd say you'll probably think he did a pretty good job, according to the mechanism at hand, in the previous disaster. If you think the Fed itself is the problem, then he instantly is a de facto loser, at truthfully no fault of his own. I'm in the camp that thinks a giant central economic planning center is the problem.
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CapeCoddah Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:07:17pm |
re: #145 Killgore Trout
He is going to have a tough fight. The Federal Reserve is not popular these days.
LOL, master of understatement, KT!
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wrenchwench Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:07:56pm |
re: #141 garhighway
We have those at my office, too. They are standard issue in NYC skyscrapers.
Since 9-11-01? Or earlier?
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brookly red Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:08:13pm |
re: #145 Killgore Trout
He is going to have a tough fight. The Federal Reserve is not popular these days.
not too many things are popular these days... well maybe populism.
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brookly red Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:09:43pm |
re: #147 CapeCoddah
It is real, but you cannot live your life fearful every minute of every day.. that must just suck.
no, not fear, reality . shit happens... you have a flashlight in you home don't you?
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TampaKnight Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:09:50pm |
re: #151 brookly red
not too many things are popular these days... well maybe populism.
It's quite popular to be a populist.
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garhighway Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:09:52pm |
re: #150 wrenchwench
Post 9-11.
We have "shelter-in-place" supplies, too. In case there is some sort of toxic substance (dirty bomb, anthrax, etc...) outside the building that traps us indoors for an extended period.
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Donna Ballard Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:10:23pm |
re: #143 HoosierHoops
Oh great you posted about drugs..Now Ad-sense will have Viagra ads in the sidebar...
/
Well it is Friday.... :-P
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brookly red Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:10:30pm |
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CapeCoddah Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:10:57pm |
re: #146 garhighway
I think that it is just as corrupt as any governmental entity, and if run as it was intended to, we would be just fine.
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brookly red Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:11:46pm |
re: #157 CapeCoddah
I think that it is just as corrupt as any governmental entity, and if run as it was intended to, we would be just fine.
/maybe we should audit em...
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CapeCoddah Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:12:55pm |
re: #152 brookly red
no, not fear, reality . shit happens... you have a flashlight in you home don't you?
Um, yes... but I don't carry it around with me constantly in case the electricity goes out, or to deal with the occasional mouse.
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CapeCoddah Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:13:31pm |
re: #158 brookly red
Yeah, lets do that and watch the nightmare that ensues..
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TampaKnight Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:13:46pm |
I work with the government daily. If there's one thing I've learned, on any level of government employment, is that 1. They know their jobs aren't going anywhere 2. They're in no rush to be productive or efficient and 3. If an employee isn't being productive, they won't fire them- they'll merely hire 2 more people to do the job that 1 person should do.
It's insane.
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TampaKnight Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:14:02pm |
re: #160 CapeCoddah
Yeah, lets do that and watch the nightmare that ensues..
Are you scared of truth?
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Unakite Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:14:38pm |
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Kragar Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:14:42pm |
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CapeCoddah Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:15:27pm |
re: #162 TampaKnight
NO, but the country would not survive the answer... careful what you wish for.
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brookly red Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:16:14pm |
re: #159 CapeCoddah
Um, yes... but I don't carry it around with me constantly in case the electricity goes out, or to deal with the occasional mouse.
we also take our circumstance into account and reasonably prepare for it... commons sense is not fear.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:16:27pm |
Hmmmm,,
Just got an e-mail from a local theatre that i've donated too and have gone to plays/ concerts at for a few years
They're asking for a washing machine!
Hmmmmm,,, could just be the final push Mrs. SATTY needs to go get that new Washer/Dryer combo I've wanted
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Digital Display Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:16:41pm |
re: #155 Dragon_Lady
Well it is Friday... :-P
Just finished scanning what is on Tonight.. I see Brokeback Mountain is playing..When Mom was sick I asked her what movie she wanted to watch..And of course it was Brokeback Mountain cause she heard about it..
I have never been so embarrassed in my whole life...Never watch that movie with your mom..The sex in the pup tent scene was uncomfortably silent in the room ...* More popcorn mom?*
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brookly red Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:17:29pm |
re: #165 CapeCoddah
NO, but the country would not survive the answer... careful what you wish for.
what do you suppose the answer is ?
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Unakite Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:17:34pm |
re: #161 TampaKnight
I work with the government daily. If there's one thing I've learned, on any level of government employment, is that 1. They know their jobs aren't going anywhere 2. They're in no rush to be productive or efficient and 3. If an employee isn't being productive, they won't fire them- they'll merely hire 2 more people to do the job that 1 person should do.
It's insane.
Second that.
I had a project recently where a state agency wanted some information and they always give you a 30-day deadline to respond. We responded in April 2009 and just got their response in December, eight months later.
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CapeCoddah Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:17:42pm |
re: #166 brookly red
I agree, but I just could not live that level of fear. I would not allow myself to do it. I enjoy enjoying life, and not always looking over my shoulder, but again, that is just me.
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CapeCoddah Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:18:31pm |
re: #169 brookly red
I am not sure, but I am sure that most anything Ron Paul advocates is not a good idea.
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Gus Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:19:23pm |
Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) came out against Ben Bernanke today. That's clue number one. Considering who would be in charge of replacing him I think our best option is to keep him on board.
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Donna Ballard Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:19:33pm |
re: #152 brookly red
no, not fear, reality . shit happens... you have a flashlight in you home don't you?
We not only have a flashlight in every room, but we have heavy duty work gloves, an extra set of clothing & shoes for the both of us at the foot of our bed and enough canned foods and waterproof matches to supply our apt bldg for a week. It's earthquake country here.
Not only that, but the Los Angeles City Council went to such extremes as to warn us citizens a year after 9/11 that we are prime targets for terrorism and to be ready anytime for an attack. Had more than a few people rushing to the store to stock up, causing a mild shortage on batteries, water and foodstuffs for a few weeks. That was fun.//
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:19:36pm |
OT, but a very good post from the Mayor of San Diego, who just testified in the gay marriage case in CA.
It's the Huffington Post, but I hope some will click and read
My eyes were opened in 2007, when I had to decide whether to support a ban on same-sex marriage in my capacity as mayor of San Diego. Through conversations with friends and supporters, I realized that my position was inconsistent with one of my core principles as a police officer and as mayor, which is that every community deserves to be treated with equal dignity and respect.
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brookly red Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:20:04pm |
re: #172 CapeCoddah
I am not sure, but I am sure that most anything Ron Paul advocates is not a good idea.
what is the worst that could happen? we find out that the pols have stolen everything?
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CapeCoddah Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:20:04pm |
re: #173 Gus 802
Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) came out against Ben Bernanke today. That's clue number one. Considering who would be in charge of replacing him I think our best option is to keep him on board.
There is that.
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TampaKnight Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:22:37pm |
Ron Paul has some wacked ideas....but his economic ideas are usually very, very good. I don't understand the disdain for him on this board, beyond calling him a "wing nut" which is patently false as he's held these economic ideas his entire life.
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CapeCoddah Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:22:51pm |
re: #176 brookly red
Brookley, if I had the answer for you, I would not be sitting on my couch talking to you all, my ass would be on the next flight to D.C.
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Gus Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:23:06pm |
re: #177 CapeCoddah
There is that.
I see the White House is still backing him. Even so if he was to leave I'm sure they'd force a political hand on the president for his replacement.
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Donna Ballard Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:23:27pm |
re: #168 HoosierHoops
Just finished scanning what is on Tonight.. I see Brokeback Mountain is playing..When Mom was sick I asked her what movie she wanted to watch..And of course it was Brokeback Mountain cause she heard about it..
I have never been so embarrassed in my whole life...Never watch that movie with your mom..The sex in the pup tent scene was uncomfortably silent in the room ...* More popcorn mom?*
If your Mom is anything like mine... You poor thing! Mine would have screeched and run out of the room then blamed me for not warning her about the content. Parents...sigh...
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Digital Display Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:24:07pm |
re: #167 sattv4u2
Hmmm,,
Just got an e-mail from a local theatre that i've donated too and have gone to plays/ concerts at for a few years
They're asking for a washing machine!
Hmmm,,, could just be the final push Mrs. SATTY needs to go get that new Washer/Dryer combo I've wanted
All my shit has to go into storage cause I'm moving to Singapore...I'm stressing a little about it..Park my car at Dad's house in Napa Valley and move to the other side of the world...I'm nervous and it's a great adventure. Your post about washer/dryer while I'm thinking about that it would be cheaper to sell stuff like than to pay storage for 3 years...
I'm making a list
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wrenchwench Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:24:11pm |
re: #180 TampaKnight
Ron Paul has some wacked ideas...but his economic ideas are usually very, very good. I don't understand the disdain for him on this board, beyond calling him a "wing nut" which is patently false as he's held these economic ideas his entire life.
Return to the gold standard? Really?
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:25:58pm |
re: #178 Obdicut
I really hope the tide is changing. I really hope.
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TampaKnight Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:26:07pm |
re: #185 wrenchwench
Return to the gold standard? Really?
Ok, that's dumb. But I wouldn't argue that moving towards it a little would be harmful. The alternative is to keep moving more and more into severely inflated currency and the devaluation of the dollar.
And he's spoken on many, many more topics than that.
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Digital Display Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:27:18pm |
re: #180 TampaKnight
Ron Paul has some wacked ideas...but his economic ideas are usually very, very good. I don't understand the disdain for him on this board, beyond calling him a "wing nut" which is patently false as he's held these economic ideas his entire life.
So it is possible to be a wingnut your whole life..Who would have thunk it?
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:27:32pm |
re: #180 TampaKnight
Ron Paul has some wacked ideas...but his economic ideas are usually very, very good. I don't understand the disdain for him on this board, beyond calling him a "wing nut" which is patently false as he's held these economic ideas his entire life.
How about doing some research on him on this blog? There is plenty of material here.
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Donna Ballard Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:28:12pm |
re: #184 HoosierHoops
All my shit has to go into storage cause I'm moving to Singapore...I'm stressing a little about it..Park my car at Dad's house in Napa Valley and move to the other side of the world...I'm nervous and it's a great adventure. Your post about washer/dryer while I'm thinking about that it would be cheaper to sell stuff like than to pay storage for 3 years...
I'm making a list
And checking it twice? I won't ask if you've been naughty or nice... ;-)
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Donna Ballard Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:28:58pm |
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TampaKnight Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:29:48pm |
re: #188 HoosierHoops
So it is possible to be a wingnut your whole life..Who would have thunk it?
See, I don't get that. He is at huge odds with the many idiots who ran in the Republican primaries....in fact he tore the idiot Guliani a new a-hole in the debate. So are now labeling 90% of conservatives as "wing nuts" who don't fit the extreme moderate Republican mold?
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CapeCoddah Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:30:44pm |
re: #193 TampaKnight
TK, your downy head is not even dry here yet... listen to the old lizards, read what Mandy linked for you.
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soap_man Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:32:01pm |
Just popping on for a quick comment before I leave to play chess (nerd alert!)
Being relatively new, I really support this idea Charles. While getting to know people around here, I have found some of their fine blogs I would not have noticed otherwise.
It would be great to have the occasional "lizard blog of the week/month" to feature all the good shit out there (and would probably be especially useful when you yourself are cramped for time.) Just a thought.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:32:08pm |
re: #194 CapeCoddah
We get occasional Paulian trolls here sometimes. They really hate us.
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Gus Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:32:10pm |
Rep. Frank: Abolish Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac
Good idea or not?
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:32:46pm |
re: #193 TampaKnight
"Idiot Giuliani"?!
Oh, dear me. I'm gonna' go fry some bacon before I unleash a 55-gallon drum of whup-ass.
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CapeCoddah Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:32:46pm |
re: #196 Killgore Trout
Hopefully, he is just young and will listen!
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TampaKnight Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:33:09pm |
re: #194 CapeCoddah
TK, your downy head is not even dry here yet... listen to the old lizards, read what Mandy linked for you.
I did. But I'm not an impulsive, impressionable person. While I respect Charles and what he says, I'm not going to suddenly reshuffle everything I think because of a few blog posts.
Keep in mind I'm speaking specifically economically here....not about what nutjobs choose to follow him.
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CapeCoddah Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:33:38pm |
re: #197 Gus 802
Rep. Frank: Abolish Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac
Good idea or not?
First, we need to abolish Bawney, which will happen this November, and he now knows it.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:33:52pm |
re: #199 CapeCoddah
Nah, smells like a Paulian. They hate the Neocons like Giuliani (support for Israel and all that)
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TampaKnight Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:34:02pm |
re: #196 Killgore Trout
We get occasional Paulian trolls here sometimes. They really hate us.
Troll? I've contributed in most discussions since joining.
I didn't know counter opinions get you the label "troll" here.
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The Shadow Do Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:34:20pm |
Hey Hoops! Singapore Slingers! Drink it up my man!
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:35:08pm |
re: #203 TampaKnight
Sorry but I have as much patience for debating Paulian economics as I do 9-11 "truth". It's a waste of time.
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Gus Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:35:16pm |
re: #193 TampaKnight
See, I don't get that. He is at huge odds with the many idiots who ran in the Republican primaries...in fact he tore the idiot Guliani a new a-hole in the debate. So are now labeling 90% of conservatives as "wing nuts" who don't fit the extreme moderate Republican mold?
Ron Paul debated? Sounded more like a comedy routine.
"Critics agree, Ron Paul was a laugh riot in the tradition of the tragic comedy." - Variety
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Digital Display Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:35:16pm |
re: #190 Dragon_Lady
And checking it twice? I won't ask if you've been naughty or nice... ;-)
It's a 3 year gig..I'm excited and I am absolutely terrified...I'm going to haul everything I own back Home to California ( Cause I ain't never coming back to Indiana ) Then fly and live on the other side of the World with Winston..( If the Gov't accepts him..Lot of paperwork for taking animals to Singapore)
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CapeCoddah Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:35:29pm |
re: #200 TampaKnight
I did. But I'm not an impulsive, impressionable person. While I respect Charles and what he says, I'm not going to suddenly reshuffle everything I think because of a few blog posts.
Keep in mind I'm speaking specifically economically here...not about what nutjobs choose to follow him.
Careful TK, now you are implying we cannot think for ourselves. You may not want to go there.
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recusancy Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:35:45pm |
re: #201 CapeCoddah
First, we need to abolish Bawney, which will happen this November, and he now knows it.
Who's going to beat him? He's not going anywhere.
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CapeCoddah Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:36:35pm |
re: #202 Killgore Trout
Nah, smells like a Paulian. They hate the Neocons like Giuliani (support for Israel and all that)
I do believe you are right, Killgore.
Fresh batch of marinade?
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:36:37pm |
re: #188 HoosierHoops
So it is possible to be a wingnut your whole life..Who would have thunk it?
And not even KNOW it
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brookly red Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:37:07pm |
re: #203 TampaKnight
Troll? I've contributed in most discussions since joining.
I didn't know counter opinions get you the label "troll" here.
not by everyone... but Ron Paul is not really well excepted here.
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TampaKnight Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:37:10pm |
re: #208 CapeCoddah
Careful TK, now you are implying we cannot think for ourselves. You may not want to go there.
No, I'm not. I'm merely saying that a list of blog entries isn't going to persuade me to suddenly condemn the man.
And for the record I voted McCain in 2008 and supported him the entire way.
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wrenchwench Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:37:11pm |
re: #200 TampaKnight
I did. But I'm not an impulsive, impressionable person. While I respect Charles and what he says, I'm not going to suddenly reshuffle everything I think because of a few blog posts.
Keep in mind I'm speaking specifically economically here...not about what nutjobs choose to follow him.
Actually, Luap Nor follows nutjobs himself. His views on economics are strongly influenced by this
Griffin, G. Edward. The Creature from Jekyll Island: A Second Look at the Federal Reserve, 4th ed. Westlake Village, Calif.: American Media, 2002.
which is written by a Bircher and is a filthy, Jew-hating, piece of propaganda. It's on Paul's recommended reading list.
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Donna Ballard Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:38:01pm |
re: #207 HoosierHoops
It's a 3 year gig..I'm excited and I am absolutely terrified...I'm going to haul everything I own back Home to California ( Cause I ain't never coming back to Indiana ) Then fly and live on the other side of the World with Winston..( If the Gov't accepts him..Lot of paperwork for taking animals to Singapore)
Definatly nice! Since I live in L.A. I'll say break a leg!
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:38:33pm |
re: #197 Gus 802
Rep. Frank: Abolish Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac
Good idea or not?
I'd rather keep Fannie and Freddie and do away (metaphorically) with Barney!
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The Shadow Do Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:38:46pm |
I'll have to reexamine my values, Rudy is a nut job and Ron Paul makes a lot of sense? I'll go reflect on the meaning of life for a while, or not.
/I'm too old for this shit
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CapeCoddah Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:38:47pm |
re: #203 TampaKnight
No, but refusing to look at facts suggested to you, then suggesting Charles is brainwashing the Lizards will not win you any points.
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Gus Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:39:19pm |
re: #216 sattv4u2
I'd rather keep Fannie and Freddie and do away (metaphorically) with Barney!
Yeah, that would be a metaphor. He's in one of those uncontested districts.
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Digital Display Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:39:32pm |
re: #212 brookly red
not by everyone... but Ron Paul is not really well excepted here.
Lot's of Ron Paul fans in Indiana.. lot's of bumper stickers on trucks..
And lots of Confederate flags..
There is more to a man than his economic policies...
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brookly red Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:40:08pm |
re: #220 HoosierHoops
Lot's of Ron Paul fans in Indiana.. lot's of bumper stickers on trucks..
And lots of Confederate flags..
There is more to a man than his economic policies...
oh that is for sure.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:40:13pm |
re: #219 Gus 802
Yeah, that would be a metaphor. He's in one of those uncontested districts.
Who you telling. I used to live in that district!
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CapeCoddah Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:40:14pm |
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TampaKnight Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:40:16pm |
re: #218 CapeCoddah
No, but refusing to look at facts suggested to you, then suggesting Charles is brainwashing the Lizards will not win you any points.
Uh, I didn't say that. And I came here, as a conservative, AFTER I saw Charles' post on breaking from the right. I'm fairly sure I wouldn't become a participating member here if I thought the host blogger was brainwashing the members.
C'mon.
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wrenchwench Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:40:41pm |
re: #207 HoosierHoops
It's a 3 year gig..I'm excited and I am absolutely terrified...I'm going to haul everything I own back Home to California ( Cause I ain't never coming back to Indiana ) Then fly and live on the other side of the World with Winston..( If the Gov't accepts him..Lot of paperwork for taking animals to Singapore)
When you first started talking about that gig, I thought it was for three weeks. Three years will be an experience. How does Mrs. Hoopster feel about it?
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:41:26pm |
BREAKING ON MY LOCAL NEWS
They just pulled a man alive out of the rubble in Haiti
10 DAYS after the quake
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Bagua Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:42:02pm |
re: #142 CapeCoddah
Yeah, said he promised to do better helping the economy...you mean he is NOT doing all he can or his best now? Why? Don't know if I would have made that particular statement.
Possibly because he is an idiot? That works for me. The guy is a disaster.
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Donna Ballard Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:42:37pm |
re: #227 sattv4u2
BREAKING ON MY LOCAL NEWS
They just pulled a man alive out of the rubble in Haiti
10 DAYS after the quake
Pop the Champagne! Excellent news! You think he'll be okay?
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Gus Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:42:46pm |
re: #222 sattv4u2
Who you telling. I used to live in that district!
I've lived in several. Right now I'm living in another one. You ask the devout locals about our Representative and their eyes glaze over in admiration for her political orthodoxy. The GOP doesn't even bother. The DNC also doesn't bother since she's a lifer.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:43:10pm |
It's getting worser and worser - or maybe it's really the same old-same old.
Michelle Malkin is alarmed about John McCain running for office, Sarah Palin supporting him, McCain's support for various candidates. She starts off with this:
Conservatives have worked hard over the past year to rebuild after Big Government Republican John McCain’s defeat. But McCain isn’t going gently into that good night.
What that means is that tea-party leaders and religious fundamentalists have worked hard over the past year to kick out of the party anyone they deem a RINO.
She continues (and the bold is my bolding of phrases I found interesting):
The question isn’t why Sarah Palin is helping John McCain. The question is: What are you doing to stop him from cementing his Big Government Republican legacy?
. . .
And pay attention to the hidden, more troubling irony: While he runs to the right to protect his seat, McCain’s political machine is working across the country to install liberal and establishment Republicans to secure his legacy.
In Florida, McCain’s Country First Political Action Committee is supporting the Senate bid of fellow illegal alien amnesty supporter and global warming alarmist, GOP Gov. Charlie Crist, whose crucial 2008 primary endorsement rescued McCain from disaster. Grass-roots conservatives support former GOP statehouse leader Marco Rubio – who is hitting Crist hard for lying to voters about his embrace of President Obama’s pork-laden, fraud-ridden stimulus package.
In Colorado, McCain and his meddlers infuriated the state party by anointing former lieutenant governor Jane Norton to challenge endangered Democrat Sen. Michael Bennet. She’s a milquetoast public official who has served on a lot of task forces and GOP clubs – and who happens to be the sister-in-law of big Beltway insider Charlie Black. An estimated 40 percent of her coffers are filled with out-of-state money (and much of that is flowing from the Beltway) (REINE'S NOTE: But out-of-state tea party money flowing into a candidate's coffers is OK?)
She's speaking against reasonable and moderate Republicans in favor of creationist hard-right candidates.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:43:55pm |
re: #229 Dragon_Lady
Pop the Champagne! Excellent news! You think he'll be okay?
They didn't give his condition, only that he's alive, then stated something about someone getting pulled out 12 days (alive) from a different quake in the past
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CapeCoddah Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:43:56pm |
re: #213 TampaKnight
No, I'm not. I'm merely saying that a list of blog entries isn't going to persuade me to suddenly condemn the man.
And for the record I voted McCain in 2008 and supported him the entire way.
I voted for McCain also, so what?
A lot of research went into those "Blog Entries" and if you are not interested in reading them, why are you here? I am here for truth and fairness, You?
Careful, cause Mandy Will open that drum of whupass, and you will not be able to sit for a month. Mandy and I BTW, are both just to the right of Atilla the Hun, so the vote argument means squat.
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Donna Ballard Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:44:50pm |
re: #232 sattv4u2
They didn't give his condition, only that he's alive, then stated something about someone getting pulled out 12 days (alive) from a different quake in the past
I'll say a prayer for him...
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Gus Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:45:15pm |
re: #231 reine.de.tout
It's getting worser and worser - or maybe it's really the same old-same old.
Michelle Malkin is alarmed about John McCain running for office, Sarah Palin supporting him, McCain's support for various candidates. She starts off with this:
She's speaking against reasonable and moderate Republicans in favor of creationist hard-right candidates.
Creationist hard-right candidates and undereducated psychopaths like Chris Simcox who would be the alternative to McCain in Arizona.
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CapeCoddah Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:45:32pm |
re: #219 Gus 802
Yeah, that would be a metaphor. He's in one of those uncontested districts.
No district will be uncontested come November here. We are fired up.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:45:34pm |
Speaking of Ron Paul and other assorted Birch society loons: I just started watching Glenn Beck's special revised history of "progressivism". He starts out by claiming that some of the founding fathers had evil plans to redistribute the wealth and start an evil central bank but were thwarted by the Constitution. Only later when America turned its back on the Constitution did these evils plans become reality.....
Glenn Beck Show - Documentary on Progressivism - January 22, 2010 - Pt 1 of 7
Looks like I might try to watch this one.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:45:40pm |
re: #230 Gus 802
I've lived in several. Right now I'm living in another one. You ask the devout locals about our Representative and their eyes glaze over in admiration for her political orthodoxy. The GOP doesn't even bother. The DNC also doesn't bother since she's a lifer.
Niki Tsongas?
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TampaKnight Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:45:56pm |
re: #233 CapeCoddah
I voted for McCain also, so what?
A lot of research went into those "Blog Entries" and if you are not interested in reading them, why are you here? I am here for truth and fairness, You?
Careful, cause Mandy Will open that drum of whupass, and you will not be able to sit for a month. Mandy and I BTW, are both just to the right of Atilla the Hun, so the vote argument means squat.
I think you're waging a fairly unnecessary battle with me, and one that is far too serious for a Friday evening.....
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:46:54pm |
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wrenchwench Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:47:08pm |
re: #202 Killgore Trout
Nah, smells like a Paulian. They hate the Neocons like Giuliani (support for Israel and all that)
I think your field identification is correct. Note the way he flew past #214.
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brookly red Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:47:17pm |
re: #236 CapeCoddah
No district will be uncontested come November here. We are fired up.
bad time for all incumbents me thinks...
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:47:20pm |
re: #231 reine.de.tout
She's speaking against reasonable and moderate Republicans in favor of creationist hard-right candidates.
McCain's immigration policies have always been a big problem for her.
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CapeCoddah Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:47:52pm |
re: #225 recusancy
You got it. See me in November. If they run a German Shepard, the Shepard will be a shoo in.
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recusancy Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:49:07pm |
[Brown's] prior visits to Washington, he explained, were mostly to watch his daughter Ayla, a college basketball player, play against American University, or to visit the monuments "as a tourist."
"I'm a history buff," he said. "I love the Museum of Natural History."
-- Sen.-elect Scott Brown (R-MA), as quoted by the Washington Post.
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CapeCoddah Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:49:30pm |
re: #228 Bagua
Possibly because he is an idiot? That works for me. The guy is a disaster.
I think it would be easire to list those officials who are NOT disasters. The list would have maybe 3 names on it. I don't know which 3 names.
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Gus Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:49:35pm |
re: #241 sattv4u2
Sorry ,, I thought you were talking about Massachusetts
Oh, yeah, I'm talking Colorado.
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Digital Display Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:50:51pm |
re: #226 wrenchwench
When you first started talking about that gig, I thought it was for three weeks. Three years will be an experience. How does Mrs. Hoopster feel about it?
I work for a large Japanese global Corporation..Many positions are rotated after 3-5 years..From the top down through the ranks...It's part of the Environment and culture. I know I have a few years to make my mark and advance or decline in the next position.. You become highly motivated to do a great job and impress Tokyo...
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brookly red Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:50:59pm |
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Bagua Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:52:45pm |
re: #180 TampaKnight
Ron Paul has some wacked ideas...but his economic ideas are usually very, very good. I don't understand the disdain for him on this board, beyond calling him a "wing nut" which is patently false as he's held these economic ideas his entire life.
Not really. Sure he is able to say some sensible things and is framing his ideas to be more mainstream than in the past, but taken in its entirety his platform is wacky. He is basically a slightly more presentable version of Larouche, another compete nutter who also says some sensible things.
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wrenchwench Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:53:12pm |
re: #249 HoosierHoops
You become highly motivated to do a great job and impress Tokyo...
Sounds like Godzilla.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:53:38pm |
re: #245 CapeCoddah
You got it. See me in November. If they run a German Shepard, the Shepard will be a shoo in.
Luv ya cape, but I don't think Barneys going anywhere. Suffolk County went BIG for Coakley (66% to 33%)
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TampaKnight Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:54:03pm |
UK raised the terrorist threat warning to "Severe" today....I'm going there in a week. Crap?
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:54:25pm |
re: #244 Killgore Trout
McCain's immigration policies have always been a big problem for her.
You know, I'm not sure what it is she thinks we're going to do with those illegal aliens who are already here and who have been absorbed into our society and economy.
Is it reasonable to think we can round 'em all up? That would have a huge impact, not necessarily a good one.
I would like to see illegal immigration stopped - but I don't think there's much we can do with the folks who are here except just accept the situation.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:54:29pm |
re: #250 brookly red
I am voting for the American Staffordshire Terrier my self.
feh
West Highland White Terriers RULE!!
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Donna Ballard Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:55:11pm |
re: #254 TampaKnight
UK raised the terrorist threat warning to "Severe" today...I'm going there in a week. Crap?
Just watch your back...
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recusancy Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:55:29pm |
re: #255 reine.de.tout
You know, I'm not sure what it is she thinks we're going to do with those illegal aliens who are already here and who have been absorbed into our society and economy.
Is it reasonable to think we can round 'em all up? That would have a huge impact, not necessarily a good one.
I would like to see illegal immigration stopped - but I don't think there's much we can do with the folks who are here except just accept the situation.
That's where that dirty "A" word comes in that makes all the minute men tea baggers lose their shit.
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brookly red Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:55:43pm |
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The Shadow Do Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:56:36pm |
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CapeCoddah Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:56:40pm |
re: #230 Gus 802
I think you are gonna see a LOT more GOP involvere: #239 TampaKnight
ment in Massachusetts. They simply never bothered before because it was a waste of time and money. Not so after Tuesday.
No battle, you had an opinion, we directed you to some facts, which you dismissed. If you already know it all, why are you here?
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Bagua Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:56:48pm |
re: #231 reine.de.tout
It's getting worser and worser - or maybe it's really the same old-same old.
Upding for archaic usage 'worser'.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:57:00pm |
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recusancy Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:57:20pm |
re: #254 TampaKnight
UK raised the terrorist threat warning to "Severe" today...I'm going there in a week. Crap?
Maybe to the increased hassle of security but not to fearing for your safety. If you're scared of terrorists you should also be scared of thunderstorms and getting struck by lightning.
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brookly red Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:57:33pm |
re: #258 recusancy
That's where that dirty "A" word comes in that makes all the minute men tea baggers lose their shit.
no it's not the A word... it's the I word that comes before the A word...
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:58:10pm |
re: #255 reine.de.tout
Is it reasonable to think we can round 'em all up? That would have a huge impact, not necessarily a good one.
I would like to see illegal immigration stopped - but I don't think there's much we can do with the folks who are here except just accept the situation.
Agreed. However Malkin would have no issues with rounding people up into camps and mass deportations.
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recusancy Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:58:42pm |
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Donna Ballard Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:58:51pm |
re: #255 reine.de.tout
You know, I'm not sure what it is she thinks we're going to do with those illegal aliens who are already here and who have been absorbed into our society and economy.
Is it reasonable to think we can round 'em all up? That would have a huge impact, not necessarily a good one.
I would like to see illegal immigration stopped - but I don't think there's much we can do with the folks who are here except just accept the situation.
There is more than a grain of truth in what you say... I don't like it much myself. And where I worked last the majority of my co-workers were all legal immigrants who don't like it either. It maybe that the pressure from legal immigrants will be enough to stem the tides of illegals.. But I just don't know...
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Digital Display Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:59:35pm |
re: #254 TampaKnight
UK raised the terrorist threat warning to "Severe" today...I'm going there in a week. Crap?
Be safe!
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recusancy Fri, Jan 22, 2010 3:59:52pm |
re: #265 brookly red
no it's not the A word... it's the I word that comes before the A word...
My minds a blank on what the I word is.
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The Shadow Do Fri, Jan 22, 2010 4:00:05pm |
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Bagua Fri, Jan 22, 2010 4:00:14pm |
re: #247 CapeCoddah
I think it would be easire to list those officials who are NOT disasters. The list would have maybe 3 names on it. I don't know which 3 names.
Which is why we need less government, not more.
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CapeCoddah Fri, Jan 22, 2010 4:01:06pm |
re: #253 sattv4u2
Luv ya cape, but I don't think Barneys going anywhere. Suffolk County went BIG for Coakley (66% to 33%)
Could be, but, people are pretty sick of Bawney... lots of his constituents lost big money and his town hall meeting did not impress anyone.
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Donna Ballard Fri, Jan 22, 2010 4:01:45pm |
Hummm, new thread. Gonna go check it out.
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CapeCoddah Fri, Jan 22, 2010 4:02:18pm |
Sorry about my 261, what a mess. Sometimes my post button does not work
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TampaKnight Fri, Jan 22, 2010 4:03:22pm |
re: #264 recusancy
Maybe to the increased hassle of security but not to fearing for your safety. If you're scared of terrorists you should also be scared of thunderstorms and getting struck by lightning.
Yes, I'm talking the hassle of traveling. It's already terrible.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 22, 2010 4:04:44pm |
re: #267 recusancy
Yup. He ain't bright, it seems.
OR ,, maybe it's not him thats "ain't bright"
You DO know that the Smithsonian is called the "National Museum Of Natural History"
ADDRESS ,,,10th St. & Constitution Ave. NW, in Washington, D.C. 20560
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Gus Fri, Jan 22, 2010 4:05:02pm |
re: #246 recusancy
I assume he means the Smithsonian Museum of Natural History since the context is Washington DC. They have some history exhibits:
Western Cultures Hall
Exhibit: PermanentThe institutions, traditions and ideals of North American cultures are deeply rooted in those of western Asia, northern Africa, and Europe. This hall explores some examples from various cultures in the western world including northern Iraq, ancient Egypt, Greece and Rome and the recent discovery of the Iceman, a Copper Age mummy found in an Italian glacier.
Tiger.Korea Gallery
Exhibit: PermanentThis new exhibition presents Korea's millennia of history and its distinctive culture through ceramics, paintings, textiles and sculptures, ranging from the 6th century B.C. to the 21st century. Thematic areas of the exhibit include: Korean ceramics, Honoring family, The Korean wedding, Hangeul (the Korean writing system), Korea's natural and built landscapes, Koreans overseas, and Korea's visual arts today.Tiger, magpie, pine, and sacred fungus. Late 19th century.
This is directly from their about us:
Whether looking at the history and cultures of Africa, describing our earliest Mammalian ancestor or primate diversity around the world, examining ancient life forms including the ever popular dinosaurs, or exploring the beauty of rare gemstones such as uniquely colored diamonds, the Museum’s temporary and permanent exhibitions serve to educate, enlighten and entertain millions of visitors each year. The main building on the National Mall contains 1.5 million square feet of space overall and 325,000 square feet of exhibition and public space; altogether the Museum is the size of 18 football fields, and houses over 1000 employees. With a growing network of interactive websites, the Museum is transforming itself into a hub for national and international electronic education, accessible to anyone with access to the internet.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 22, 2010 4:05:53pm |
re: #267 recusancy
re: #277 sattv4u2
OR ,, maybe it's not him thats "ain't bright"
You DO know that the Smithsonian is called the "National Museum Of Natural History"
ADDRESS ,,,10th St. & Constitution Ave. NW, in Washington, D.C. 20560
sorry ,, link
[Link: www.mnh.si.edu...]
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recusancy Fri, Jan 22, 2010 4:06:32pm |
re: #277 sattv4u2
OR ,, maybe it's not him thats "ain't bright"
You DO know that the Smithsonian is called the "National Museum Of Natural History"
ADDRESS ,,,10th St. & Constitution Ave. NW, in Washington, D.C. 20560
Yeah... Natural history. Somehow I don't think that's what he was talking about.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 22, 2010 4:08:29pm |
re: #281 recusancy
Yeah... Natural history. Somehow I don't think that's what he was talking about.
Somehow,, I think your fishing without a hook
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Gus Fri, Jan 22, 2010 4:09:04pm |
re: #281 recusancy
Yeah... Natural history. Somehow I don't think that's what he was talking about.
He said history buff. I already pointed out the historical exhibits at said museum. Being a buff doesn't qualify him as a student. Thus, one can also add that a history buff would enjoy the cultural artifacts at the museum which speak of the cultural history of mankind and the various cultures.
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generalsparky Fri, Jan 22, 2010 4:09:47pm |
re: #267 recusancy
And President Obama didn't know the difference between Ohio and Michigan today.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 22, 2010 4:14:10pm |
re: #284 generalsparky
And President Obama didn't know the difference between Ohio and Michigan today.
Do we still have 57 states?
/
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jan 22, 2010 4:14:18pm |
re: #268 Dragon_Lady
There is more than a grain of truth in what you say... I don't like it much myself. And where I worked last the majority of my co-workers were all legal immigrants who don't like it either. It maybe that the pressure from legal immigrants will be enough to stem the tides of illegals.. But I just don't know...
Legal immigrants have a point - they "stood in line" and waited their turn, legally, and it's not fair to them to just grant a blanket amnesty to those who are here illegally But I have to wonder if those who are here illegally are in a whole different economic situation than those who got here legally.
After Katrina, when virtually the entire population of the devastated areas had been relocated somewhere else, Mexican workers were flocking to New Orleans. There were no housing facilities, but they were willing to live in a tent-city that arose spontaneously in City Park, in the most awful of circumstances, and those are the people who began much of the rebuilding of New Orleans.
We had a commenter here once (who is now at a stalker site), who was incensed about that situation. This guy apparently is a construction contractor, and that situation just aggravated him no end. And then, after venting about that situation, he goes on to say that he had crews ready, willing and able to work but did not send them to New Orleans because the jobs didn't pay enough.
He blamed the pay situation on the Mexicans who were here willing to work for lower wages. But they did not show up right away - the jobs didn't pay anything even before the Mexicans arrived. The Mexicans came because there was work to do and no one else wanted to do it.
So he was pissed off that the Mexicans were there doing the work, but not so much so that he would have been willing to send his own crews down here because the jobs didn't pay enough.
I was flabbergasted.
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ryannon Fri, Jan 22, 2010 4:18:07pm |
re: #169 brookly red
what do you suppose the answer is ?
Does it a plural noun that begins with a 'J'?
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ryannon Fri, Jan 22, 2010 4:24:22pm |
re: #207 HoosierHoops
It's a 3 year gig..I'm excited and I am absolutely terrified...I'm going to haul everything I own back Home to California ( Cause I ain't never coming back to Indiana ) Then fly and live on the other side of the World with Winston..( If the Gov't accepts him..Lot of paperwork for taking animals to Singapore)
Mr. Hoops, you are sooo going to like Singapore. Take my word for it.
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ryannon Fri, Jan 22, 2010 4:32:52pm |
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Arby Dwiar Fri, Jan 22, 2010 6:33:57pm |
Sorry folks, late to the party as usual...(that darn job of mine, you know)...I've read through about 20% of the posts here so far.
I've always felt that if I were to perish in an automobile accident I would not desire a roadside memorial; just my personal desires, nothing more.
As such, I fervently believe that the Trade Towers be rebuilt without wasting another moment; both practically and symbolically, this important part of our monetary engine needs to be rebuilt to signify our resolve for everyone to see.
I often ask myself - What would our parents, the ones who dealt with WWII, have done in this situation?
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 22, 2010 7:32:20pm |
Thanks for the shout out Charles. Much appreciated.
Thanks also to all those who've given warm wishes on my blogversary today. That too is much appreciated.
I was in NYC on 9/11; had friends who worked in the shadows of the tower; used to commute through the WTC before 9/11 (and now do daily to work in Lower Manhattan in one of the buildings that you can see in the slideshow that Charles has for 9/11. The towers I knew were always a part of the skyline - and on that crisp bright morning, it all changed.
I had always known about terrorism and the threats - the Islamists tried to take it down in 1993, and there had been warnings of a terror plot thwarted in 2000 that would have been mass carnage, but the attack on that fateful morning struck home. In an agonizingly stretch of a few hours, thousands of lives were snuffed out, and the city has never been the same.
Before I started A Blog For All, I devoted a significant amount of time reporting on Ground Zero at Suite 101 cataloging how to help the recovery, and then to report on what to do with the site and then rebuilding efforts, which continue to this day. For those who can't see this for themselves, it's important not to forget - both in terms of what was lost, what we've endured, and how much farther we have to go.
So when some nutbag goes off on a rant about how it was faked, how the government was behind the attacks, or other such crapulence, I take it personally. It sullies the memories of the nearly 3,000 murdered on 9/11 and the blood, sweat, and tears, of those who spent countless hours on the pile to try and rescue them from the collapsed towers (where multiple floors were compacted into the space of mere feet, where fires raged for nearly 3 months and the smell lingered for months later), and then in the recovery of remains that continued for years.
It's also my way of coping with the terror attacks, and to see that others learn about the attacks, what has happened, and what we can do to see that it doesn't happen again.
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 22, 2010 7:36:42pm |
re: #290 Arby Dwiar
The Freedom Tower (1WTC) is well underway, as is 4WTC. The memorial/museum is well underway - at street level - which doesn't sound like much, but given that we're talking about a seven story structure underground operating around and between two operating subway systems (PATH and MTA subways), they're finally moving ahead with tangible progress after years of delay.
Freedom Tower - [Link: lawhawk.blogspot.com...]
Ground Zero - [Link: lawhawk.blogspot.com...]
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Surabaya Stew Fri, Jan 22, 2010 7:46:21pm |
Very late reply here; just wanted to give a big hand to Lawhawk for his excellent coverage and commentary on the rebuilding efforts in and around Ground Zero. It's really quite a wonderful read; almost like an historical narrative in progress. As a native New Yorker, all I can say is: Bravo!
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Arby Dwiar Fri, Jan 22, 2010 7:58:42pm |
re: #292 lawhawk
The Freedom Tower (1WTC) is well underway, as is 4WTC. The memorial/museum is well underway - at street level - which doesn't sound like much, but given that we're talking about a seven story structure underground operating around and between two operating subway systems (PATH and MTA subways), they're finally moving ahead with tangible progress after years of delay.
Freedom Tower - [Link: lawhawk.blogspot.com...]
Ground Zero - [Link: lawhawk.blogspot.com...]
Wow. I certainly appreciate the information! I have now bookmarked your blog permanently in Safari - thanks for the effort, my friend!
And thanks to you, Charles, once again...
I haven't been back to NYC since prior to 9/11; what a thrill it would be to return after the completion of the Freedom Tower! I hope and pray that I'll be able to see it along with my children in the near future.
All The Best!
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