Best wishes and lizard mojo to my wife's best friend. her father committed suicide not two weeks after her mother succumbed to cancer.

A chill fog envelopes Mt. Wilson. Towercam, San Gabriel Mountains, Pacific time zone.

Brrrr.

re: #1 Guanxi88

Best wishes and lizard mojo to my wife's best friend. her father committed suicide not two weeks after her mother succumbed to cancer.

Oh man. I don't even know what i would say to that. Best wishes and lizard mojo for sure, as small as that feels in the face of such a thing. Wow.

An early evening open thread for any tomfoolery or shenanigans you feel like getting up to …

Thanks, but I think I'll just wait for the open thread designated for antics and hijinks, if it's all the same to you.

re: #1 Guanxi88

Best wishes and lizard mojo to my wife's best friend. her father committed suicide not two weeks after her mother succumbed to cancer.

Don't even know what to say.
Prayers for strength for your wife's friend to get through this difficult time.

re: #3 Aceofwhat?

Oh man. I don't even know what i would say to that. Best wishes and lizard mojo for sure, as small as that feels in the face of such a thing. Wow.

We've got her, her hubby, and their kids at our place.

Her and hubby - we've got them squared away with alcohol, Chinese take-out ,and a carton of smokes, for the time being.

Kids are with ours, watching spongebob, playing shoots & ladders, and such.

It's all one can do, really.

re: #1 Guanxi88

Aw geez, sorry to hear that. Best wishes and Lizard mojo indeed.

re: #2 Ojoe

A chill fog envelopes Mt. Wilson. Towercam, San Gabriel Mountains, Pacific time zone.

Brrr.

Ever seen Siberia? ;)

Didn't live much in Siberia but Ukrainian winters were not too far from this. And yes, I remember breath slowly or you will hurt yourself.

[Link: englishrussia.com...]

Besides DF, I'm not sure who here is also from Illinois, but there is a Republican gubernatorial debate on Chicago Tonight right now. Very interesting.

re: #4 Slumbering Behemoth

Thanks, but I think I'll just wait for the open thread designated for antics and hijinks, if it's all the same to you.

Me, I'm waiting for the funny business and hanky-panky thread.

re: #6 Guanxi88

We've got her, her hubby, and their kids at our place.

Her and hubby - we've got them squared away with alcohol, Chinese take-out ,and a carton of smokes, for the time being.

Kids are with ours, watching spongebob, playing shoots & ladders, and such.

It's all one can do, really.

you're good people. just so you know.

re: #1 Guanxi88

Best wishes and lizard mojo to my wife's best friend. her father committed suicide not two weeks after her mother succumbed to cancer.

Can I add them to the lizard prayer list? Very sad

re: #10 reine.de.tout

Hanky-panky? I'm so there.

re: #12 HoosierHoops

Can I add them to the lizard prayer list? Very sad

Add em to any and every list ya got. They're church-folk themselves, and would certainly appreciate it.

re: #6 Guanxi88

We've got her, her hubby, and their kids at our place.

Her and hubby - we've got them squared away with alcohol, Chinese take-out ,and a carton of smokes, for the time being.

Kids are with ours, watching spongebob, playing shoots & ladders, and such.

It's all one can do, really.

That's the best you can do in these situation. Just be there for them.

re: #13 Slumbering Behemoth

Hanky-panky? I'm so there.

heheh.
Not surprised one bit!
It'll have to be a closed thread, of course!

re: #11 Aceofwhat?

you're good people. just so you know.

Eh, they'd do the same for us, minus the carton of Marlboros (has anybody priced those lately?)

re: #17 Guanxi88

Good for you. A bit of shelter in the storm.

Blue Meanies FTW!

re: #10 reine.de.tout

Me, I'm waiting for the funny business and hanky-panky thread.

You got it.

re: #17 Guanxi88

Eh, they'd do the same for us, minus the carton of Marlboros (has anybody priced those lately?)

i'll buy a pack on rare occasions...i think it's officially cheaper to buy a carton of joints.

re: #6 Guanxi88

Bless your heart.

re: #20 MandyManners

You got it.

[Video]

OMG - talk about a trip to the past!

re: #17 Guanxi88

Eh, they'd do the same for us, minus the carton of Marlboros (has anybody priced those lately?)

You don't have to tell me that. Here in Chicago, a pack costs $8 to $9.

re: #14 Guanxi88

Add em to any and every list ya got. They're church-folk themselves, and would certainly appreciate it.

I added them...
All we can do as humans is pray that God brings healing and grace and healing to those that remain on this Earth..
And we pray those that have suffered so much find peace in the After life..
Be well

"Better Off Ted" is on right now. ABC.

What a great show.

re: #26 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"Better Off Ted" is on right now. ABC.

What a great show.

It's been cancelled...

Nah, I kid... Or did I? Nah, I totally did... DID I NOW?

re: #23 reine.de.tout

OMG - talk about a trip to the past!

Let's do the twist.

re: #21 Aceofwhat?

It's about $20 per joint, if a joint is a gram.

For good stuff.

re: #1 Guanxi88

Best wishes and lizard mojo to my wife's best friend. her father committed suicide not two weeks after her mother succumbed to cancer.

How horrible. Send her our best, please.

I call Shenanigans!

re: #6 Guanxi88

It is the love that we show to each other that endures, other things we do are temporary but all kindness makes a permanent difference.

re: #26 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"Better Off Ted" is on right now. ABC.

What a great show.

Cake Boss is on TLC. Buddy's making a cake of the set of Sesame Street.

re: #31 tradewind

I call Shenanigans!

Sigh, is SB not wearing clothes again!?
/...?
:)

“Yes I got him a gift. He had a kidney stone. You piss a rock through your pecker, you deserve more than just a pat on the fucking back."

re: #29 Obdicut

It's about $20 per joint, if a joint is a gram.

For good stuff.

Huh. I didn't really know. Funny - i don't partake and tend to lean towards the Buckley side of things, but i am quite pro-legalization. Talk about smaller gov't...where my dem friends at...let's regulate and tax the bejesus out of that stuff...you guys are good at that, right;)

re: #1 Guanxi88
Oh, crap. That's awful..... I'm sure you will send prayers and/or good wishes their way from everyone here.

re: #31 tradewind

I call Shenanigans!

I call shenanigans on this:

7th Circuit Upholds Prison Rule Forbidding Inmates to Play Dungeons and Dragons

The prison’s rationale for the ban is that playing D&D might stimulate “gang activity” by inmates.

re: #31 tradewind

I call Shenanigans!

Everyone grab a broom!

re: #6 Guanxi88

We've got her, her hubby, and their kids at our place.

Her and hubby - we've got them squared away with alcohol, Chinese take-out ,and a carton of smokes, for the time being.

Kids are with ours, watching spongebob, playing shoots & ladders, and such.

It's all one can do, really.

It is not our friends' help that helps us, so much as the confident knowledge that they will help.
-- Epicurus

re: #38 Soap_Man

ROFLMAO!!!

re: #34 Varek Raith
Charles mentioned 'em, and I like that expression. Any excuse will do!

My Wife is Abusive and Sexually Frigid

[Link: www.guidance2live.com...]

re: #36 Aceofwhat?

Buckley was pro-legalization.

re: #36 Aceofwhat?

A joint normally services a few people, too. Unless someone's bogarting.

By the way, Dennis Prager's producer Allen Estrin emailed to reiterate Dennis's offer to come on his show, but I want to respond in kind -- in writing -- first, so we'll see how that goes.

re: #45 Obdicut

A joint normally services a few people, too. Unless someone's bogarting.

puff puff GIVE!

re: #35 Slumbering Behemoth

“Yes I got him a gift. He had a kidney stone. You piss a rock through your pecker, you deserve more than just a pat on the fucking back."

Try pushing a watermelon through...oh, never mind.

re: #43 ethics

My Wife is Abusive and Sexually Frigid

[Link: www.guidance2live.com...]

I'm suddenly feeling better about my relationship.

re: #44 Slumbering Behemoth

Buckley was pro-legalization.

you're right, i'd forgotten. how about them apples. i knew he was a smart guy (once he apologized for that civil rights bit, of course).

re: #38 Soap_Man

The Half-Orc vs. Half-Elf gang rivalry is friggin' brutal, I tells ya.

re: #38 Soap_Man
Why should they be allowed to play pinochle**, much less D& D? I wouldn't waste a Shenanigans on them.
/grinch mode off/
**Whatever pinochle is.//

re: #31 tradewind

I call Shenanigans!

here you go...

[Link: www.sfgate.com...]

An early evening open thread for any tomfoolery or shenanigans you feel like getting up to …

Anything?

re: #49 marjoriemoon

I'm suddenly feeling better about my relationship.

That's why I post this stuff. If you think you have it bad... 16 years of sexless marriage... I mean... that's one of the big reasons TO get married! ;)

re: #46 Charles

By the way, Dennis Prager's producer Allen Estrin emailed to reiterate Dennis's offer to come on his show, but I want to respond in kind -- in writing -- first, so we'll see how that goes.

Would love to see it Charles. You'll do great.

re: #48 MandyManners

It's not a competition, Mandy.

re: #54 Walter L. Newton

Anything?

Hi Walter!

re: #46 Charles

Prager's article was such dull and generic denial of everything that I didn't really see it as an interesting starting point for debate.

re: #1 Guanxi88

My consonances. I have lost two friends to suicide. Could never understand why.

re: #57 Slumbering Behemoth

It's not a competition, Mandy.

I win.

re: #59 Killgore Trout

Prager's article was such dull and generic denial of everything that I didn't really see it as an interesting starting point for debate.

Whole lotta straw men goin' on.

I don't know whether this lives up to its title, but there are some good moments in it:

And now, home to dinner.

re: #54 Walter L. Newton

Did you see this the other night?

re: #60 Bubblehead II

My consonances. I have lost two friends to suicide. Could never understand why.

Lost a friend myself. Drug addiction. ODed on purpose, according to his note. Sad shit.

Good Evening LGF.

German Firm Siemens Pulls Out Of Iran
(sorta kinda maybe)
[Link: www.jpost.com...]

re: #48 MandyManners
Voice recognition software replies: I Think You Meant
'Try pulling your upper lip over your head'.

re: #55 ethics

That's why I post this stuff. If you think you have it bad... 16 years of sexless marriage... I mean... that's one of the big reasons TO get married! ;)

lol One would think eh??

Truth be told, usually the first few years get more... em... play time.

re: #62 Charles

would love to hear you on the show, but will respect your decision either way.

re: #46 Charles

Does he edit his shows?

re: #61 MandyManners

FWIW, my grandma told me that passing her stone was worse/more painful than giving birth to my aunt.

re: #53 brookly red
We have a Winnah!

re: #9 Soap_Man

Besides DF, I'm not sure who here is also from Illinois, but there is a Republican gubernatorial debate on Chicago Tonight right now. Very interesting.

Oh man, this is brutal. Not only are they breaking Reagan's 11th commandment, they are pissing all over it.

re: #71 Slumbering Behemoth

FWIW, my grandma told me that passing her stone was worse/more painful than giving birth to my aunt.

I cannot imagine.

re: #58 HoosierHoops

Hi Walter!

Getting ready for the repeat of LOST season five finale... "The Incident." The two step critters have never watched LOST, except for a episode I made them watch a few weeks ago. I got hand drawn 8 1/2 x 11 sheets of white paper on the wall above the TV, explaining some of the finer points of the last five years.

I also have my explorer hat ready, my hand held walkie talkie and a plush polar bear to sit on my lap.

I am going to groom 3 new LOST fans tonight, and then they will be ready for the final season, starting next Tuesday.

Bahahahahahahahaha...

Turn up the psychedelia:

re: #53 brookly red

here you go...

[Link: www.sfgate.com...]

Plundering skinks!

re: #75 Walter L. Newton

Indoctrination!

re: #62 Charles

Whole lotta straw men goin' on.

He totally avoided any significant details. It's as if mere rhetoric is the basis of a solid argument.

As Gus just linked downstairs, to the JD Hayworth vid of him being a birther, we see the Tea Partier panderer directly challenging the person who was the former presidential nominee and one of the more senior members of the GOP Senate, by using the far-right nuttery about which you have written so much.

re: #64 Slumbering Behemoth

Did you see this the other night?

I heard about it on the radio, crazy people, we've always had them, always will... nothing surprises me. Seems to surprise a lot of other people. A lot of people must have missed the 20th century.

re: #75 Walter L. Newton

Getting ready for the repeat of LOST season five finale... "The Incident." The two step critters have never watched LOST, except for a episode I made them watch a few weeks ago. I got hand drawn 8 1/2 x 11 sheets of white paper on the wall above the TV, explaining some of the finer points of the last five years.

I also have my explorer hat ready, my hand held walkie talkie and a plush polar bear to sit on my lap.

I am going to groom 3 new LOST fans tonight, and then they will be ready for the final season, starting next Tuesday.

Bahahahahahahahaha...

So the "resurrected" Locke is actually the man in black right? Am I the only who thinks this?

re: #76 The Sanity Inspector

I always love Beatles songs as done through the filter of the weird cartoon. You get the feeling that the animators had no freakin' idea what the songs were about.

re: #43 ethics

Just curious. Why did you post that?

re: #77 MandyManners

Plundering skinks!

/soxs all soxs...

re: #74 MandyManners
When they write the history of the greatest scams of all time, Dr Lamaze's name is gonna be right up there with Bernie Madoff's.
Just sayin'. I fell for it once.

re: #75 Walter L. Newton

Getting ready for the repeat of LOST season five finale... "The Incident." The two step critters have never watched LOST, except for a episode I made them watch a few weeks ago. I got hand drawn 8 1/2 x 11 sheets of white paper on the wall above the TV, explaining some of the finer points of the last five years.

I also have my explorer hat ready, my hand held walkie talkie and a plush polar bear to sit on my lap.

I am going to groom 3 new LOST fans tonight, and then they will be ready for the final season, starting next Tuesday.

Bahahahahahahahaha...

final season... as in never more?

Hmmm.... have we got a missing lizard on the loose?

re: #1 Guanxi88

((({{{Guanxi88}}})))
Hugs, trying to sneak past the "just three" censor.

God bless you & your family.

re: #87 lawhawk

Hmmm... have we got a missing lizard on the loose?

and a dolla short!

re: #85 tradewind

just curious, whats wrong with the Lamaze method?

/hasn't given birth himself, so...

re: #81 Soap_Man

So the "resurrected" Locke is actually the man in black right? Am I the only who thinks this?

No, almost all fans understand this, it's no secret. The "game" that Jacob and his Nemesis (that's what the man in black is being called by fans) have been playing is evidently cosmic in scope, and has been going on for centuries.

And any "representation" of a dead person or animal that the survivors have seen during the course of the series is really the Nemesis. It's not a zombie or procession thing, simply a simulacrum. But the Nemesis cannot appear as a person unless that person is dead and NOT BURIED.

Side not... the Nemesis is also the Smoke Monster.

re: #46 Charles

By the way, Dennis Prager's producer Allen Estrin emailed to reiterate Dennis's offer to come on his show, but I want to respond in kind -- in writing -- first, so we'll see how that goes.

I would love to hear this. I am not a fan of Prager at all, I despise the culture war gibberish, and he's all about the culture war.

re: #34 Varek Raith

Sigh, is SB not wearing clothes again!?
/...?
:)

Pants is all he's missing, IIRC....

re: #82 windsagio

I always love Beatles songs as done through the filter of the weird cartoon. You get the feeling that the animators had no freakin' idea what the songs were about.

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re: #1 Guanxi88

Best wishes and lizard mojo to my wife's best friend. her father committed suicide not two weeks after her mother succumbed to cancer.

My dear fellow South Austinite. Please accept my deepest condolences.

(((Guanxi)))

re: #74 MandyManners

Also, for whatever this is worth, I think women who give birth should get a present as well. Every year, in fact, like a birthday or something. We could make it a holiday, maybe call it "Mommy's Day" or something. I'm gonna call my congressman.

re: #91 Walter L. Newton

No, almost all fans understand this, it's no secret. The "game" that Jacob and his Nemesis (that's what the man in black is being called by fans) have been playing is evidently cosmic in scope, and has been going on for centuries.

And any "representation" of a dead person or animal that the survivors have seen during the course of the series is really the Nemesis. It's not a zombie or procession thing, simply a simulacrum. But the Nemesis cannot appear as a person unless that person is dead and NOT BURIED.

Side not... the Nemesis is also the Smoke Monster.

Oh shit, I can't wait! (I didn't know it was a commonly held belief; none of my friends watch it. But thanks for the additional knowledge.)

re: #87 lawhawk

Hmmm... have we got a missing lizard on the loose?

lol many in fact! They do this from S. America/Central America too.

re: #60 Bubblehead II

My consonances. I have lost two friends to suicide. Could never understand why.

I almost lost my brother, and I know exactly why, it involves selective seratonin reuptake inhibitors and all kinds of other brain chemistry.

re: #86 brookly red

final season... as in never more?

As in never more. The producers wanted 6 seasons from ABC, and it's the fist show to ever get an arrangement like that. So, the producers had the basic plot arcs of the show worked out before they even started filming. Of course, like any show, they had some wiggle room, but basically, the whole thing was plotted out ahead of time. It's like a six year movie, and that's what makes it so complex but at the same time, no red hearings, no dead ends, and there will be a complete and final wrap up this year. And the producers promised NO FUTURE ANYTHING related to LOST.

That's the way to produce a serialized show.

re: #93 Floral Giraffe

Pants is all he's missing, IIRC...

I don't miss them.

re: #94 marjoriemoon

Heh, I've heard of it, but never actually seen it. In concept, yes!

re: #100 Walter L. Newton

As in never more. The producers wanted 6 seasons from ABC, and it's the fist show to ever get an arrangement like that. So, the producers had the basic plot arcs of the show worked out before they even started filming. Of course, like any show, they had some wiggle room, but basically, the whole thing was plotted out ahead of time. It's like a six year movie, and that's what makes it so complex but at the same time, no red hearings, no dead ends, and there will be a complete and final wrap up this year. And the producers promised NO FUTURE ANYTHING related to LOST.

That's the way to produce a serialized show.

I'm glad they took that route, instead of just letting the show run for as long as it had ratings, then abruptly end it when the ratings start to tank without enough time to wrap everything up.

re: #103 Soap_Man

I'm glad they took that route, instead of just letting the show run for as long as it had ratings, then abruptly end it when the ratings start to tank without enough time to wrap everything up.

*cough*X-FILES*cough*

re: #87 lawhawk

Hmmm... have we got a missing lizard on the loose?

Is that a skink down your pants or are you just happy to see me?

re: #102 windsagio

Heh, I've heard of it, but never actually seen it. In concept, yes!

Well it's dated, for sure. Very Yellow Submarine like. In fact, Ringo narrates if I recall.

I thought, though, the Beatles controlled their animation.

re: #75 Walter L. Newton

Well, if you watched "Up", I guess they can watch LOST.

re: #90 windsagio
/Pain./
Actually, I am sure that some people's experiences were wonderful. Applying all the principles and after months of classes, all I can say is that while I made it through the experience alive and healthy, with the same for the baby, it was..... excruciating.
The second time around, I opted for Dr Feelgood and his magic needle. Loved it. Just as alert and aware and participatory an experience sans agony.
Whoever invented the epidural should be canonized.

re: #96 Slumbering Behemoth

Also, for whatever this is worth, I think women who give birth should get a present as well. Every year, in fact, like a birthday or something. We could make it a holiday, maybe call it "Mommy's Day" or something. I'm gonna call my congressman.

I know a woman who gives her mom a present every year on the day she gave birth to her.

re: #104 WindUpBird

Apropos of another conversation:

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re: #108 tradewind

OHH! I didn't know that they suggested you go without the joy of the epidural.

Yes, F that.

re: #100 Walter L. Newton

That's the way to produce a serialized show.

Quite concur. /DF mode off

There was one show, "Life On Mars" I think, one season and done. It was okay, but I like that much better than dragging something on and on into oblivion.

re: #107 prairiefire

Well, if you watched "Up", I guess they can watch LOST.

You got it. And the older step critter bought me season one of "Dollhouse" for Xmas, even though she knows I don't like Josh Whedon at all... it's her favorite show (who was the Xmas present really for?)... and we are slowly getting through it, so yes, they owe me big time.

TOOTS! I'M STILL SICK!

I blame her...

re: #107 prairiefire

Well, if you watched "Up", I guess they can watch LOST.

I thought the first ten minutes of "Up'" was brilliant. The rest wasn't bad either.

"Squirrels!"

re: #104 WindUpBird

*cough*X-FILES*cough*

Never got into it. My brother loves it and has all the DVDs. Maybe I should borrow them...

re: #112 Slumbering Behemoth

Quite concur. /DF mode off

There was one show, "Life On Mars" I think, one season and done. It was okay, but I like that much better than dragging something on and on into oblivion.

That show had one weird ass ending.

re: #105 MandyManners
One of my kids had a lunchbox full of those little green tree lizards he had smuggled from the beach get loose in the middle of the airport check-in line, a real candid camera moment for parental humiliation.

re: #116 Soap_Man

That show had one weird ass ending.

Neon Genesis.
;)

re: #109 MandyManners

I know a woman who gives her mom a present every year on the day she gave birth to her.

My brother in law sends flowers to my mother on my sister's birthday. Has done it ever year they've been married... comin' upon on 30.

re: #117 tradewind

One of my kids had a lunchbox full of those little green tree lizards he had smuggled from the beach get loose in the middle of the airport check-in line, a real candid camera moment for parental humiliation.

Nowadays TSA would do a strip search on all of you.

re: #106 marjoriemoon

heh, had to look it up ;)

The band members themselves had nothing to do with the series' production beyond the use of their music recordings.

(wiki)

Dated cartoons are amongst the best. I love soaking up the... ambiance of the different time.

re: #113 Walter L. Newton

You got it. And the older step critter bought me season one of "Dollhouse" for Xmas, even though she knows I don't like Josh Whedon at all... it's her favorite show (who was the Xmas present really for?)... and we are slowly getting through it, so yes, they owe me big time.

Huh. I loved Firefly. Wasn't really anything else like it, imho.

re: #116 Soap_Man

If you watch x-files, stick with the first four seasons or so. There are some stunningly great episodes. Goes downhill after that.

re: #119 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My brother in law sends flowers to my mother on my sister's birthday. Has done it ever year they've been married... comin' upon on 30.

Awww. That's touching.

re: #65 Soap_Man

The first was to meth and paranoia (siq) the second was pure revenge because his wife left him, He couldn't handle it and had to strike out. The bastard, called her and the pulled the trigger while she was on the phone. Left two kids behind. Fucking Bastard

re: #124 MandyManners

Awww. That's touching.

He's such a suck-up.
/

No, it really is sweet.

re: #123 WindUpBird

... Like the Simpsons

re: #125 Bubblehead II

The first was to meth and paranoia (siq) the second was pure revenge because his wife left him, He couldn't handle it and had to strike out. The bastard, called her and the pulled the trigger while she was on the phone. Left two kids behind. Fucking Bastard

Was he abusive in other ways?

re: #2 Ojoe

A chill fog envelopes Mt. Wilson. Towercam, San Gabriel Mountains, Pacific time zone.

Brrr.

I love when I come too late to a thread, click on your tower cam & it's all dark.

re: #128 MandyManners

Was he abusive in other ways, TOO?

re: #127 windsagio

... Like the Simpsons

No kidding!

re: #112 Slumbering Behemoth

Quite concur. /DF mode off

There was one show, "Life On Mars" I think, one season and done. It was okay, but I like that much better than dragging something on and on into oblivion.

Yes, but realize... "Life on Mars" was produced after LOST began. And if I remember correctly (I don't watch any TV)... it was also a ABC show, right? I know it happened after LOST started.

If networks are smart, they will follow the formula for the way LOST was produced... it get an average of 16 million viewers an episode.

A blockbuster in any sense of the word, like it or not, you can't deny the success of the show.

re: #129 Stanley Sea

sometimes they turn the lights on, so you can barely see the dome against the stars. That one is brilliant too .

re: #107 prairiefire

"Up" remix by Pogo.

re: #123 WindUpBird

If you watch x-files, stick with the first four seasons or so. There are some stunningly great episodes. Goes downhill after that.

I saw a few episodes here and there. One time in high school, me and a few friends were drunk and the "COPS" episode was on. For the first few minutes, we were all like "Is this COPS?" "It can't be COPS." "It has to be, it really looks like it."

That was a great episode.

re: #132 Walter L. Newton

Yes, but realize... "Life on Mars" was produced after LOST began. And if I remember correctly (I don't watch any TV)... it was also a ABC show, right? I know it happened after LOST started.

If networks are smart, they will follow the formula for the way LOST was produced... it get an average of 16 million viewers an episode.

A blockbuster in any sense of the word, like it or not, you can't deny the success of the show.

BBC, originally.

re: #111 windsagio

OHH! I didn't know that they suggested you go without the joy of the epidural.

Yes, F that.

Well that's the whole point of natural childbirth. I have no judgments on this one. To each their own :)

My brother and I were born naturally. Lamaze was just being introduced. Bro was born in 1955, me in 1962. It was all the rage.

re: #137 marjoriemoon

I was born in 62 too.

re: #99 WindUpBird

Drugs also apply.

Well, LOST just started. Looks like we won't be hearing from Walter for a few hours.

re: #45 Obdicut

A joint normally services a few people, too. Unless someone's bogarting.

Katt Williams does a hilarious bit about smoking pot with Snoop Dogg and his posse. Apparently they had more than one joint going round, which Katt did not realize until he was basically having an out-of-body experience.

re: #129 Stanley Sea

Got the email, I will be contacting them this week... going to eat soon and then watch TV.

re: #132 Walter L. Newton

yeah nobody would. Its certainly successful :p

re: #9 Soap_Man

Besides DF, I'm not sure who here is also from Illinois, but there is a Republican gubernatorial debate on Chicago Tonight right now. Very interesting.

We live here (IL) but I am registered to vote in FL. I just can't see wasting my vote in this state.

re: #137 marjoriemoon

haha, fair enough. Most women I know, who had more than one, did the first one 'natural', and then had had enough >>

re: #125 Bubblehead II

The first was to meth and paranoia (siq) the second was pure revenge because his wife left him, He couldn't handle it and had to strike out. The bastard, called her and the pulled the trigger while she was on the phone. Left two kids behind. Fucking Bastard

What a shitty way to do it. I don't want to be hostile to those who take their own life, but that is one fucked up and vindictive way to go out. Fucking bastard is right.

re: #140 Soap_Man

Well, LOST just started. Looks like we won't be hearing from Walter for a few hours.

No, it starts 8:00pm Mountain time, I'm in the Colorado Rockies... I still have about 55 minutes... need to eat soon, then LOST.

re: #43 ethics

My Wife is Abusive and Sexually Frigid

[Link: www.guidance2live.com...]

Good God. I'm glad this man is finally reaching out. Sort of alarmed it took him sixteen years.

re: #139 Bubblehead II

Drugs also apply.

He had clinical depression, and the psychiatrist basically guessed wrong on his meds. He failed the attempt, survived, now he's all family man with a house and a wife and a kid, and I get to be the crazy uncle!

re: #121 windsagio

heh, had to look it up ;)

(wiki)

Dated cartoons are amongst the best. I love soaking up the... ambiance of the different time.

Really? I thought they did!

I think you'll like The Point. It has a good message, actually about racism. The music is fabulous, Harry Nilsson. Some of the songs got on the top 40 at the time. The animation seems a bit crude, but it was always very nostalgic for me.

re: #141 SanFranciscoZionist

That would be an experience. Snoop Dogg is just so... he's kind of adorable. He's all tiny and stuff.

re: #138 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I was born in 62 too.

GET OUTA TOWN.

yer old

re: #141 SanFranciscoZionist

Katt Williams does a hilarious bit about smoking pot with Snoop Dogg and his posse. Apparently they had more than one joint going round, which Katt did not realize until he was basically having an out-of-body experience.

ahahahahahahahahaha YES

I CAN SEE FOREVER

re: #144 generalsparky

I was gonna get all annoyed, but then again, I also live in a state where my vote doesn't really count for most things >>

... if for a different reason than you're thinking of ;)

re: #147 Walter L. Newton

No, it starts 8:00pm Mountain time, I'm in the Colorado Rockies... I still have about 55 minutes... need to eat soon, then LOST.

Ah, yes. I forgot that not everyone lives in the Central time zone.

re: #152 marjoriemoon

GET OUTA TOWN.

yer old

I was born in 1952...

Cato was born in 234 BC...
;)

re: #154 windsagio

I was gonna get all annoyed, but then again, I also live in a state where my vote doesn't really count for most things >>

... if for a different reason than you're thinking of ;)

THROW YOUR VOTE AWAY!
/Kodos

re: #150 marjoriemoon

Its on my list to buy now. I watch alot of DVD's at work so I don't fall asleep.

so thanks :)

re: #120 MandyManners
I can only imagine. But then again, when I got married, we ran through the terminal and down the concourse chased by people with lit sparklers. Go figure.//

re: #119 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My brother in law sends flowers to my mother on my sister's birthday. Has done it ever year they've been married... comin' upon on 30.

That's very sweet!

re: #155 Soap_Man

Ah, yes. I forgot that not everyone lives in the Central time zone.

Charles posted this as a thread the other day, but just in case anyone missed this, an Onion satirical newscast about the new season of LOST. So spot on...

[Link: www.theonion.com...]

re: #158 WindUpBird

oh c'mon, who is WA (or OR for that matter) gonna send its electoral votes for in any reasonable Pres Election?

Hint: Its not the Republican.

re: #145 windsagio
/raising hand/
Although the third time, I would have done Lamaze all over again to have avoided the C-section I ended up with, so you never know.

re: #117 tradewind

I had a horned toad in a cage, caught in Mexico, when we were searched, driving back into the US. Customs agent thought it was cute & let me keep it! Dad was NOT pleased....

re: #145 windsagio

haha, fair enough. Most women I know, who had more than one, did the first one 'natural', and then had had enough >>

I didn't do drugs until my 3rd. That half dose of Stadol was like pure heaven and I can't believe I did without twice.

re: #154 windsagio

I was gonna get all annoyed, but then again, I also live in a state where my vote doesn't really count for most things >>

... if for a different reason than you're thinking of ;)

you let ACORN register you?//

re: #125 Bubblehead II

{{{Bubblehead II}}}
That's very hard on the loved ones.

Supper...

re: #163 windsagio

oh c'mon, who is WA (or OR for that matter) gonna send its electoral votes for in any reasonable Pres Election?

Hint: Its not the Republican.

I'm trying to think of a Republican that the northwest would vote for. Maybe Romney, if the Democrat was James Traficant or Zell Miller. Maybe Guiliani, if the Democrat was The Beast from Krull.

Prager claims that labeling Ann Coulter a bigot is "slander."

Coulter (on Muslim nations): "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert their people to Christianity." Any bigotry there? Well, you decide.

re: #140 Soap_Man
I was going to pass on this one because I still have it on DVR from last May, but this one has little green Cliff Notes under it running like a banner. Thanks for the heads up.

re: #149 WindUpBird

He had clinical depression, and the psychiatrist basically guessed wrong on his meds. He failed the attempt, survived, now he's all family man with a house and a wife and a kid, and I get to be the crazy uncle!

What fun! I'm the crazy Aunt!

re: #170 WindUpBird

I'm trying to think of a Republican that the northwest would vote for. Maybe Romney, if the Democrat was James Traficant or Zell Miller. Maybe Guiliani, if the Democrat was The Beast from Krull.

I put down 'General ZOD' as a write-in for uncontested local stuff.
:D

re: #162 Walter L. Newton

Charles posted this as a thread the other day, but just in case anyone missed this, an Onion satirical newscast about the new season of LOST. So spot on...

[Link: www.theonion.com...]

"And if you're the spouse of a LOST fan, you will feel like you are living with a paranoid schizophrenic."

Brilliant.

re: #171 palomino

On one of my worst days I quoted her here.

Was my first delete.

I've grown pretty dramatically since then.

re: #174 Varek Raith

I put down 'General ZOD' as a write-in for uncontested local stuff.
:D

Or Zorg. He knows he's evil//

re: #165 Floral Giraffe
Are those the things that spit blood?
Or is that just a TCU joke?

re: #145 windsagio

haha, fair enough. Most women I know, who had more than one, did the first one 'natural', and then had had enough >>

One of my friends did both of hers natural, actually the first was no drugs except Pitocin, which as I pointed out is a lot more shtark than just natural childbirth.

When I did a midwifery course, we watched some films where women talked about having their first few in a hospital and then moving to birthing centers and a more 'natural birth' approach.

Of course, we also watched a film on water births.

re: #156 Walter L. Newton

I was born in 1952...

Oh Noesssss (as the kidz say)

re: #176 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

She said the above quote a few days after 9/11, so it would be forgivable, but she's spent most of the last 9 years reiterating it.

re: #154 windsagio

I was gonna get all annoyed, but then again, I also live in a state where my vote doesn't really count for most things >>

... if for a different reason than you're thinking of ;)

;-)

Because the state of IL wanted almost 5 times as much to register our vehicles than FL (and has higher property taxes than FL~crazy IMO), we are keeping FL as my state of residence. It's also a lot more "fun" to vote in a swing state :-)

re: #128 MandyManners

A control freak. It's what neutralized our relationship. He tried to, how shall we say it, interject, his "outlook" on how things should be and was repulsed.

Didn't set well with him .

re: #159 windsagio

Its on my list to buy now. I watch alot of DVD's at work so I don't fall asleep.

so thanks :)

Coolness. Let me know what you think.

re: #151 Obdicut

That would be an experience. Snoop Dogg is just so... he's kind of adorable. He's all tiny and stuff.

Really? Interesting. Katt Williams is also very small.

So we have two amazingly talented, tiny, foulmouthed black men smoking pot together...

re: #178 tradewind

Are those the things that spit blood?
Or is that just a TCU joke?

those are the things.

re: #171 palomino

Prager claims that labeling Ann Coulter a bigot is "slander."

Coulter (on Muslim nations): "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert their people to Christianity." Any bigotry there? Well, you decide.

That is pretty hardcore I gotta admit...
kinda exactly like dem wahabies say they wanna do to us.

re: #177 Aceofwhat?

An expert would always know to ask what the red button does...

re: #178 tradewind

Are those the things that spit blood?
Or is that just a TCU joke?

From the eyes. No joke.

re: #82 windsagio

I always love Beatles songs as done through the filter of the weird cartoon. You get the feeling that the animators had no freakin' idea what the songs were about.

[Video]

Yeppers; Meso-America isn't what springs to my mind when I hear this tune!

re: #178 tradewind

Are those the things that spit blood?
Or is that just a TCU joke?

Beautiful creatures... I think the blood squirting must be a legend..
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

re: #182 generalsparky

;-)

Because the state of IL wanted almost 5 times as much to register our vehicles than FL (and has higher property taxes than FL~crazy IMO), we are keeping FL as my state of residence. It's also a lot more "fun" to vote in a swing state :-)

And there's no state income tax here either! It's good to be in FL...

re: #171 palomino

Prager claims that labeling Ann Coulter a bigot is "slander."

Coulter (on Muslim nations): "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert their people to Christianity." Any bigotry there? Well, you decide.

I have no problem calling Ann Coulter a bigot.

Of course, she probably actually CALLS Dennis Prager, so I can understand if he wants to be a little more cautious than I am.

re: #182 generalsparky

err, isn't that like vote fraud or something? >>

re: #184 marjoriemoon

I absolutely will!

re: #142 Walter L. Newton

Got the email, I will be contacting them this week... going to eat soon and then watch TV.

Really cool. They are looking forward to it.

re: #187 brookly red

And yet Prager defends her.

His article is mostly bullshit, citing establishment conservative Weekly Standard and Nat. Review as if most right-wing rhetoric today were only driven by them.

re: #171 palomino

Prager claims that labeling Ann Coulter a bigot is "slander."

Coulter (on Muslim nations): "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert their people to Christianity." Any bigotry there? Well, you decide.

Prager would have to be trying to persuade only those people who don't have access to Google.

re: #179 SanFranciscoZionist
OMG, administering pitocin is like stepping on a gas pedal. You can actually feel the acceleration, and not in a good way.

re: #188 lawhawk

An expert would always know to ask what the red button does...

"I don't like warriors. Too narrow-minded, no subtlety. And worse, they fight for hopeless causes. Honor? Huh! Honor's killed millions of people, it hasn't saved a single one. "

re: #181 palomino

She said the above quote a few days after 9/11, so it would be forgivable, but she's spent most of the last 9 years reiterating it.

Yeah. I said some shit on the evening of September 11, 2001, after several drinks, that I would not want repeated. However, I haven't reiterated it, and if asked, I would publicly state that I don't actually want to blow Saudi Arabia off the face of the earth, at least not until the women, children, and guest workers, and that one guy who was trying to get women the right to drive, have had a chance to exit.

I would be more sympathetic if she hadn't gone after widows of 9/11 so viciously.

re: #191 Floral Giraffe

Beautiful creatures... I think the blood squirting must be a legend..
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

nope, watch my youtube!

re: #179 SanFranciscoZionist

One of my friends did both of hers natural, actually the first was no drugs except Pitocin, which as I pointed out is a lot more shtark than just natural childbirth.

When I did a midwifery course, we watched some films where women talked about having their first few in a hospital and then moving to birthing centers and a more 'natural birth' approach.

Of course, we also watched a film on water births.

I would love to do a birth center but now I am considered high risk. I do love to use a birthing mirror which is rather "weird" to most L&D nurses. With my middle one, they finally located the mirror in a broom closet and it was just grimy. And the silly nurse stood in front of it so I couldn't see a damn thing. She was very lucky I only had to push a few times.

re: #187 brookly red

That is pretty hardcore I gotta admit...
kinda exactly like dem wahabies say they wanna do to us.

I'd say they were bigots, wouldn't you?

Ditto for Ann.

re: #149 WindUpBird

He had clinical depression, and the psychiatrist basically guessed wrong on his meds. He failed the attempt, survived, now he's all family man with a house and a wife and a kid, and I get to be the crazy uncle!

And you lost me on that one..................................

re: #194 windsagio

Not for military :-)

I'm gonna be 48 on Saturday. I actually like birthdays at work. Everyone nice to you. You get cake. Go out to lunch. Hubby sends me fleurs. Or one of those fruit arrangements that look like fleurs dipped in chocolate.

She feels good, she knows she's looking fine
I'm so proud to know that she is mine

re: #176 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I've grown pretty dramatically since then.

You've also changed a bit in your outlook as well.
:)

re: #191 Floral Giraffe.... ruh roh... from your link,

If threatened, they have been known to squirt blood from their eyes as far as 5 feet. [1]

That would just.... freak.... me out.

re: #205 generalsparky

Fair enough, sorry ;)

re: #206 marjoriemoon

I'm gonna be 48 on Saturday. I actually like birthdays at work. Everyone nice to you. You get cake. Go out to lunch. Hubby sends me fleurs. Or one of those fruit arrangements that look like fleurs dipped in chocolate.

You don't look a day over 21!
;)

re: #146 Soap_Man

What a shitty way to do it. I don't want to be hostile to those who take their own life, but that is one fucked up and vindictive way to go out. Fucking bastard is right.

At least it wasn't a murder-suicide, as so many other sad instances are.

re: #206 marjoriemoon

I'm gonna be 48 on Saturday. I actually like birthdays at work. Everyone nice to you. You get cake. Go out to lunch. Hubby sends me fleurs. Or one of those fruit arrangements that look like fleurs dipped in chocolate.

happy birthday! (because i'll forget)

re: #183 Bubblehead II

A control freak. It's what neutralized our relationship. He tried to, how shall we say it, interject, his "outlook" on how things should be and was repulsed.

Didn't set well with him .

Yeah, killing oneself is as controlling as one can get in emotional abuse.

re: #198 tradewind

OMG, administering pitocin is like stepping on a gas pedal. You can actually feel the acceleration, and not in a good way.

She got hung up at four centimeters. She was actually going to do a home birth, but after a certain point the midwife loaded us all into cars and sent us to the hospital, and the doctor and midwife came to the conclusion that pitocin was the way to go.

It's hardcore stuff, so I have been told. They used to give it to you in a single dose. Now they have it on drip, so they can turn it off. It's still hardcore.

It was one heck of a birth, but the baby was gorgeous, and, well, it was truly amazing.

In Prager's article, he defends lunatic Geller by asserting that the NYT article on LGF did not denounce her. (ironic since he spends most of his time arguing that the NYT is useless.)

The rest of his article is bland drivel, filled with "I've never heard of that" in response to CJ's accusations, or "liberals do it too" to justify the hysteria from the right

re: #210 windsagio

Fair enough, sorry ;)

No problem, it would have left me wondering too :-)

re: #206 marjoriemoon

You are older than me! yay!

Coulter:

"I was going to have a few comments on the other Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards, but it turns out you have to go into rehab if you use the word 'faggot,' so I - so kind of an impasse, can't really talk about Edwards."

I don't have much use for Edwards as a politician or a person, but if Prager is claiming that's not bigoted he needs his head examined.

re: #209 tradewind

... ruh roh... from your link,

That would just... freak... me out.

watch the video!!

re: #200 SanFranciscoZionist

Yeah. I said some shit on the evening of September 11, 2001, after several drinks, that I would not want repeated. However, I haven't reiterated it, and if asked, I would publicly state that I don't actually want to blow Saudi Arabia off the face of the earth, at least not until the women, children, and guest workers, and that one guy who was trying to get women the right to drive, have had a chance to exit.

I would be more sympathetic if she hadn't gone after widows of 9/11 so viciously.

And then there's the whole Jews aren't perfected yet thingy.

re: #202 generalsparky
If I had had my third at home, we would both be dead, and I had no risks at all.
And I hate hospitals, but.........

The X Files "Home" episode from season 4 was some freaky stuff, man.

re: #211 Floral Giraffe

You don't look a day over 21!
;)

lol Oh go on.....

My mom's 76. She says it's the new 56 (she's a pretty active woman). So I guess that makes me just about 21!

If is saw Coulter walking down the street, I'd flip her the bird.

re: #216 palomino

In Prager's article, he defends lunatic Geller by asserting that the NYT article on LGF did not denounce her. (ironic since he spends most of his time arguing that the NYT is useless.)

The rest of his article is bland drivel, filled with "I've never heard of that" in response to CJ's accusations, or "liberals do it too" to justify the hysteria from the right

My mother thought Pam sounded normal in the article. I had to assure her that really, Pam is insane.

re: #218 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You are older than me! yay!

Respect yer elders, sonny boy.

re: #218 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You are older than me! yay!

When's your bday?

re: #171 palomino

Prager claims that labeling Ann Coulter a bigot is "slander."

Coulter (on Muslim nations): "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert their people to Christianity." Any bigotry there? Well, you decide.

That particular outburst, I've always excused, as I excused other intemperate outbursts from other people left & right immediately after 9/11. I figured that everyone is entitled to an honest, gut reaction.

You don't have to dig far to find other outrageous stuff she's said, though. I just bear in mind that she isn't really arguing any points, so much as she's simply performing.

re: #225 Varek Raith

Random story:

I'm reading Suetonius still, and theres a great bit in there about an actor who Augustus had to pardon, because he was to be executed for giving his audience 'the finger' during a performance.

That just makes me laugh >>

re: #221 marjoriemoon

And then there's the whole Jews aren't perfected yet thingy.

Yeah. I appreciated that. //

re: #225 Varek Raith

If is saw Coulter walking down the street, I'd flip her the bird.

With an added "Perfect this"!

re: #225 Varek Raith

If is saw Coulter walking down the street, I'd flip her the bird.

Just say 'Merry Christmas'. According to her, it's equivalent.

re: #229 The Sanity Inspector

I just bear in mind that she isn't really arguing any points, so much as she's simply performing.

Bigotry For Bucks!!

I think we just found the name for a new reality show...

re: #192 Aceofwhat?

And there's no state income tax here either! It's good to be in FL...

Yes!

My husband's home of record/residency is TX so he has never paid state income tax. The one year I worked after we got married was a nightmare. I was a GA resident working in ND with a Texan for a husband. Filing taxes was crazy that year!

re: #168 Floral Giraffe

No kidding. If there is a hell, I hope he fry's in it. No man should leave his Children with that legacy.

re: #225 Varek Raith

If is saw Coulter walking down the street, I'd flip her the bird.

I think I'd ask for a picture with her, and then use it to win bets in bars :D

re: #229 The Sanity Inspector

That particular outburst, I've always excused, as I excused other intemperate outbursts from other people left & right immediately after 9/11. I figured that everyone is entitled to an honest, gut reaction.

You don't have to dig far to find other outrageous stuff she's said, though. I just bear in mind that she isn't really arguing any points, so much as she's simply performing.

If she said it in the heat of the moment, that is one thing. But every time it was brought up, even years later, she defended it. That's the part that pisses me off.

That's my long-winded way of saying I agree with you.

re: #229 The Sanity Inspector

That particular outburst, I've always excused, as I excused other intemperate outbursts from other people left & right immediately after 9/11. I figured that everyone is entitled to an honest, gut reaction.

You don't have to dig far to find other outrageous stuff she's said, though. I just bear in mind that she isn't really arguing any points, so much as she's simply performing.

Yes. Follow the money...

re: #200 SanFranciscoZionist

The attack on the 9/11 widows ("I've never seen widows enjoy their husbands deaths so much") was unconscionable. It was her lame attempt to lump them together with Cindy Sheehan as unpatriotic.

re: #229 The Sanity Inspector

That particular outburst, I've always excused, as I excused other intemperate outbursts from other people left & right immediately after 9/11. I figured that everyone is entitled to an honest, gut reaction.

You don't have to dig far to find other outrageous stuff she's said, though. I just bear in mind that she isn't really arguing any points, so much as she's simply performing.

I'm sure, but at the same time "Birth of a Nation" was just a movie.

She knows exactly what she's saying, and she uses it to make money. She bothers me.

re: #203 SanFranciscoZionist

I'd say they were bigots, wouldn't you?

Ditto for Ann.

I don't think bigot is really the right word... bigot kinda imply's some kinda social order. When the other side says it we call them fundamentalists but we never accuse them of bigotry. I guess it would just be fair to call her a fundamentalist? I don't know it semantical.

re: #229 The Sanity Inspector

That particular outburst, I've always excused, as I excused other intemperate outbursts from other people left & right immediately after 9/11. I figured that everyone is entitled to an honest, gut reaction.

You don't have to dig far to find other outrageous stuff she's said, though. I just bear in mind that she isn't really arguing any points, so much as she's simply performing.

Yeah, it's schtick. Most of talk radio is schtick.

re: #230 windsagio

Random story:

I'm reading Suetonius still, and theres a great bit in there about an actor who Augustus had to pardon, because he was to be executed for giving his audience 'the finger' during a performance.

That just makes me laugh >>

That was a capital offense?

re: #228 marjoriemoon

August...

re: #241 SanFranciscoZionist

I always wonder in my head 'is it worse that they don't really believe it, and are doing these terrible things for money?'

re: #241 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm sure, but at the same time "Birth of a Nation" was just a movie.

She knows exactly what she's saying, and she uses it to make money. She bothers me.

We had to watch that in a history of cinema class I took freshman year of college. (Thought it would be a blow-off class, but it was taught by a very strict, and somewhat surly, Vietnam vet.)

Anyway, that was one fucked up film.

re: #240 palomino

The attack on the 9/11 widows ("I've never seen widows enjoy their husbands deaths so much") was unconscionable. It was her lame attempt to lump them together with Cindy Sheehan as unpatriotic.

That was utterly horrible.

re: #246 windsagio

I always wonder in my head 'is it worse that they don't really believe it, and are doing these terrible things for money?'

Her star seems to be falling, I don't see her on talking head shows anymore.

re: #246 windsagio

I always wonder in my head 'is it worse that they don't really believe it, and are doing these terrible things for money?'

To me, that's almost as bad.

re: #222 tradewind

If I had had my third at home, we would both be dead, and I had no risks at all.
And I hate hospitals, but...

My last two babies were both NICU babies and both would have had lasting damage if I had a homebirth. I am a pretty crunchy person and respect the choice to have babies at home, it just wouldn't be an option for me.

re: #242 brookly red

I don't think bigot is really the right word... bigot kinda imply's some kinda social order. When the other side says it we call them fundamentalists but we never accuse them of bigotry. I guess it would just be fair to call her a fundamentalist? I don't know it semantical.

How about giant gaping asshole? That works for me.

re: #163 windsagio
Stranger things have happened.
I still think it's a misprint when I read 'Republican Senator-elect from MA '.