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1 darthstar  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 4:55:54pm

Good stuff. Kind of like an acoustic Robert Fripp.

2 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 4:57:45pm

wow...not too many people do that stuff, sort of a lost and forgotten art...very tasty

3 Mr. Crankypants  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 4:57:46pm

Freakin awesome!

4 darthstar  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 4:59:25pm

Here's some Fripp, by the way...onlyh he's not throwing shit at his guitar in this one...

5 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:00:15pm

Damn, that guy's technicuq is nuts. Loving all the harmonics.

6 Mocking Jay  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:01:51pm

*sigh* Just when I thought the Edwards story couldn't get more bizarre...
N.C. sheriff releases Edwards' 'domestic' problem report

7 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:03:14pm

re: #4 darthstar

Here's some Fripp, by the way...onlyh he's not throwing shit at his guitar in this one...


[Video]

sorry...nothing special there

8 Mr. Crankypants  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:03:21pm

Like this too...

9 prairiefire  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:04:38pm

That's a great slide guitar!./

10 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:05:09pm

re: #8 PT Barnum

Like this too...


[Video]

bummer, thought it was gonna cover Hendrix...pretty good tho

11 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:06:23pm

re: #9 prairiefire

That's a great slide guitar!./

oh man, don't start that again!

12 Mr. Crankypants  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:08:33pm

Combo Fried rice and LGF...best way to spend a Friday evening..

13 tradewind  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:09:07pm

re: #6 JasonA

Just when I thought the Edwards story couldn't get any more bizarre
pathetic.


FTFY.
It makes me so very, very sad.

14 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:09:57pm

re: #6 JasonA

*sigh* Just when I thought the Edwards story couldn't get more bizarre...
N.C. sheriff releases Edwards' 'domestic' problem report

Dems really dodged a bullet with that guy. All kinds of recklessness and horndog nastiness and he could have been the candidate. and all of it would have come out.

15 Mocking Jay  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:11:14pm

re: #14 windupbird

Dems really dodged a bullet with that guy. All kinds of recklessness and horndog nastiness and he could have been the candidate. and all of it would have come out.

I never thought he had much of a chance in the first place, to be honest.How often do losing VP candidates make for winning POTUS candidates?

16 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:11:15pm

re: #6 JasonA

re: #14 windupbird

Yeah, I was behind him for the first half of the campaign.

I forgot 'never trust southern politicians' ;)

17 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:12:19pm

re: #15 JasonA

I never thought he had much of a chance in the first place, to be honest.How often do losing VP candidates make for winning POTUS candidates?

he didn't have a good chance, no. But he was still in the race, with all his faults, and he apparently thought he could keep it all secret forever?

18 tradewind  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:12:33pm

re: #14 windupbird

All kinds of recklessness and horndog nastiness

...... Well, Bubba muddled through.
But with Edwards... it's the total disconnect from reality that makes us lucky he lost the primary. I wouldn't even have wished him on the Dems.//

19 Mr. Crankypants  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:13:12pm

re: #17 windupbird

If you think you're above your marriage vows it doesn't take much to think you're above everything else...

20 tradewind  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:13:23pm

re: #16 windsagio
But the Northern ones..... check.//

21 TampaKnight  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:13:35pm

Just found out that Ally Bank has a 2 year CD yielding 2.3%....moved my money there for savings. I was earning 1% with my BOA CD. Feels good!

22 Mocking Jay  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:13:43pm

re: #17 windupbird

he didn't have a good chance, no. But he was still in the race, with all his faults, and he apparently thought he could keep it all secret forever?

I don't even think Slick Willy had anything on Edwards in the arrogance department.

23 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:13:47pm

re: #16 windsagio

re: #14 windupbird

Yeah, I was behind him for the first half of the campaign.

I forgot 'never trust southern politicians' ;)


ahaha you are so going to get dinged down for that

My thing is I'm just sick to death of the constant meme that 'the heartland" or "small towns" are the real America. Just more bullshit othering. The real America is small towns, and it's also LA. it's Kansas, and it's New York

24 tradewind  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:15:24pm

re: #23 windupbird

ahaha you are so going to get dinged down for that

..... I'm thinking I showed masterful restraint by not.//

25 jaunte  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:15:25pm

re: #21 TampaKnight

Just found out that Ally Bank has a 2 year CD yielding 2.3%...moved my money there for savings. I was earning 1% with my BOA CD. Feels good!

I moved my accounts out of BoA just so I could get a person on the phone.

26 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:15:26pm

re: #23 windupbird

Well Jason beat me to it, but look at Mr. Clinton, or Thurmond's extra dughter :p

Something about those guys makes it TOTALLY impossible for them to keep their pants on!

27 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:15:38pm

re: #24 tradewind

lol just do it :)

28 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:15:39pm

re: #22 JasonA

I don't even think Slick Willy had anything on Edwards in the arrogance department.


Agree! I think Clinton has a good heart when it comes to some stuff, but he cheats. Edwards...I don't know, there's something dark about that guy. Maybe from because his kid died? Tragedy changes people, ruins families, puts everything through a lens.

29 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:15:44pm

re: #19 PT Barnum

If you think you're above your marriage vows it doesn't take much to think you're above everything else...

no shit...that's what it is, right there

30 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:16:22pm

re: #16 windsagio

re: #14 windupbird

Yeah, I was behind him for the first half of the campaign.

I forgot 'never trust southern politiciansambulance chasers' ;)

FTFY!

31 Mr. Crankypants  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:16:39pm

re: #29 albusteve

And if you are constantly bleating about family values, it probably means you have none. See Ensign, Vitter, etc etc.

32 TampaKnight  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:16:54pm

The President's Budget requests come out next week.....I'm going to be one busy, busy man for a while at work!

33 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:17:24pm

re: #28 windupbird

Agree! I think Clinton has a good heart when it comes to some stuff, but he cheats. Edwards...I don't know, there's something dark about that guy. Maybe from because his kid died? Tragedy changes people, ruins families, puts everything through a lens.

the Clintons are pure old American hillbilly trailer trash

34 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:18:21pm

re: #33 albusteve

the Clintons are pure old American hillbilly trailer trash

unnecessary

35 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:18:25pm

re: #24 tradewind

... I'm thinking I showed masterful restraint by not.//

I'll resist flailing about the south, because Mastodon and Baroness come from Georgia. Georgia is becoming the new hotbed of metal, the talent in that community is mindblowing.

36 tradewind  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:18:42pm

re: #27 windsagio
Hey..... I'm in a weather situation here, and I really want the power to stay on.... not going to tempt karma.
:)

37 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:18:52pm

re: #30 Aceofwhat?

FTFY!


What qualifies as an ambulance chaser? My father is a workplace injury lawyer.

38 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:18:55pm

re: #22 JasonA

I don't even think Slick Willy had anything on Edwards in the arrogance department.

To Edwards' misfortune, unlike Bubba he was not "an unusually good liar."

39 Mr. Crankypants  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:18:55pm

re: #23 windupbird

The whole rural america is real america is just blowback for the self important assholes on both coasts that refer to us as fly over country

40 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:18:57pm

re: #31 PT Barnum

I'm actually looking at wikipedia's list of sex scandals right now. Pretty brutal. I guess power really is the greatest aphrodesiac >>

41 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:19:11pm

re: #31 PT Barnum

And if you are constantly bleating about family values, it probably means you have none. See Ensign, Vitter, etc etc.

the Silk Pony...what a bust...I hope he ends up in a soupline with head lice

42 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:19:24pm

re: #33 albusteve

the Clintons are pure old American hillbilly trailer trash


We know you think this, you say it every single time anyone brings up the Clintons :)

43 tradewind  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:19:47pm

re: #35 windupbird
Ummm,
Okey - doke.
I guess we should be grateful for our.... assets.//

44 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:20:03pm

re: #39 PT Barnum

Which, having lived on the coast is massively overblown. Its one of those cool things they came up with to stoke the populist rage (tm).

45 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:20:46pm

re: #34 Aceofwhat?

unnecessary

hahaha!....trailer trash is the perfect description of those two imo

46 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:20:52pm

re: #23 windupbird

ahaha you are so going to get dinged down for that

My thing is I'm just sick to death of the constant meme that 'the heartland" or "small towns" are the real America. Just more bullshit othering. The real America is small towns, and it's also LA. it's Kansas, and it's New York

Difference is, we're never allowed to forget that L.A. and New York are out there. The tallest building in South Dakota could collapse tomorrow, but if someone set off some firecrackers in the lobby of CBS News at the same time, the firecrackers would be the lead story.

47 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:20:53pm

re: #39 PT Barnum

The whole rural america is real america is just blowback for the self important assholes on both coasts that refer to us as fly over country

Exactly.

48 TampaKnight  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:21:02pm

Who else is enjoying a stiff drink right now?

49 tradewind  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:21:27pm

re: #28 windupbird
It's simpler than that. Grab Websters', see 'Ambulance chasing Shyster ', definition of.
(And I come from a family of lawyers, so I can say that).

50 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:21:28pm

re: #46 The Sanity Inspector

the thing is, the rest of the coasts hate LA and NY too :P its not a heartland thing :)

51 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:21:31pm

re: #43 tradewind

Ummm,
Okey - doke.
I guess we should be grateful for our... assets.//

After about every music magazine on earth puts a rock album in their top ten of the year, I'd say it qualifies as important culture. :)

52 Mr. Crankypants  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:21:41pm

re: #44 windsagio

I like living in flyover country...and I've met the east and west coasters...I'll stay here where all the sane, nice, honest people live.

53 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:21:49pm

re: #44 windsagio

Which, having lived on the coast is massively overblown. Its one of those cool things they came up with to stoke the populist rage (tm).

The New Yorkers I know don't think badly of the trans-Hudson. They hardly think of it at all.

54 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:22:21pm

re: #49 tradewind

It's simpler than that. Grab Websters', see 'Ambulance chasing Shyster ', definition of.
(And I come from a family of lawyers, so I can say that).


I know the term, it's just some people use it to refer to any attorney who represents injured people.

55 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:22:34pm

re: #53 Decatur Deb

lol there is that. I try not to rant about New York tho, there are some people on here that won't put up with it ;)

56 Mocking Jay  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:22:50pm

re: #33 albusteve

the Clintons are pure old American hillbilly trailer trash


Trailer trash, huh? Yeah, nothing offensive about that, I guess. /

57 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:23:12pm

re: #52 PT Barnum

Oh c'mon, do you really believe that?

58 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:23:22pm

Wow, What an afternoon I've had. I just got back from talking to a real estate agent about selling my house. She seemed very optimistic about price and making a quick sale. When I got home I learned that all my financial concerns are gone. For the time being I have access to more liquid cash than I have ever had my entire life! Wow. Too good to be true.

59 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:23:43pm

re: #42 windupbird

We know you think this, you say it every single time anyone brings up the Clintons :)

it's their Apex...it's what defines them

60 TampaKnight  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:23:45pm

I appreciate all of America, really. I love cities like NYC, Chicago, LA, Boston, etc. because they have so much culture, things to do, etc. I also love the heartland because it's such a testament to middle America and the values they hold.

Love the south for their cooking and tremendous hunting! And there may not be anything more amazing than Big Sky country out west.....Montana is the most scenic place I've ever seen.

Of course here in Florida we have our beaches...and old people ;)

61 jaunte  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:23:46pm

re: #53 Decatur Deb

The New Yorkers I know don't think badly of the trans-Hudson. They hardly think of it at all.

Like this?
Image: steinberg-newyorker.jpg

62 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:23:46pm

Guitarists like this always make me miss Michael Hedges more and more.

63 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:23:59pm

re: #58 Killgore Trout

It doesn't involve Russians or Nigerians, does it?

Because if it does, I have some bad news....

64 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:24:14pm

re: #52 PT Barnum

I like living in flyover country...and I've met the east and west coasters...I'll stay here where all the sane, nice, honest people live.

And I'm quite happy in Louisiana, which surprisingly, comes in FIRST on this list.

65 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:24:27pm

re: #55 windsagio

lol there is that. I try not to rant about New York tho, there are some people on here that won't put up with it ;)

Where y'from?

Pittsburgh.

Oh. Out West.

66 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:24:30pm

re: #56 JasonA

Trailer trash, huh? Yeah, nothing offensive about that, I guess. /

they are offensive people...what's the big deal?

67 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:24:53pm

re: #58 Killgore Trout

Wow, What an afternoon I've had. I just got back from talking to a real estate agent about selling my house. She seemed very optimistic about price and making a quick sale. When I got home I learned that all my financial concerns are gone. For the time being I have access to more liquid cash than I have ever had my entire life! Wow. Too good to be true.

Good news!
All in one day, eh?

68 Mr. Crankypants  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:25:02pm

re: #57 windsagio

Not really...I'm just practicing being provocative..

69 Racer X  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:25:03pm

re: #58 Killgore Trout

Nice!

Hey everyone, Killgore is buying the next round!

70 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:25:13pm

re: #37 windupbird

What qualifies as an ambulance chaser? My father is a workplace injury lawyer.

Pursuing a claim against a physician by attempting to persuade a jury that you're right despite scientific consensus to the contrary.

Good for your father. Safe working conditions, imho, lag behind other priorities too often at too many companies. No one should be forced to perform unsafe actions at work.

71 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:25:14pm

re: #65 Decatur Deb

Yeah, I'm *from* Seattle, live in Portland now, its like a more liveable Seattle :P

72 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:25:17pm

re: #52 PT Barnum

I like living in flyover country...and I've met the east and west coasters...I'll stay here where all the sane, nice, honest people live.

I'm in Portland where all the awesome music, amazing beer and freaky artistic weirdos are. Being a freaky artistic weirdo myself, it helps to be around peers! But you have to be okay with the occasional guy riding a Penny-Farthing down the street, the occasional procession of people wearing fairy-wings, and hordes of Santa Clauses being drunk in public.

No disrespect to the middle of the country, I could probably live in Austin or Madison. Living in the suburbs would drain my soul.

73 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:25:38pm

re: #68 PT Barnum

haha fair enough, I have to constantly rein in my raging regionalism :D

74 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:25:51pm

re: #58 Killgore Trout

Wow, What an afternoon I've had. I just got back from talking to a real estate agent about selling my house. She seemed very optimistic about price and making a quick sale. When I got home I learned that all my financial concerns are gone. For the time being I have access to more liquid cash than I have ever had my entire life! Wow. Too good to be true.

drink!...(before the next house eats up your liquid money)

75 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:26:07pm

re: #57 windsagio

Oh c'mon, do you really believe that?


I'll gleefully admit Portland is a little nuts. it's not for everyone! I can never live anywhere else.

76 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:26:28pm

re: #35 windupbird

I'll resist flailing about the south, because Mastodon and Baroness come from Georgia. Georgia is becoming the new hotbed of metal, the talent in that community is mindblowing.

Ooh, ooh, Mastodon! I've got some pics I took of their predecessor band, here.

77 tradewind  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:26:40pm

re: #54 windupbird
I have no problem with representing injured people.
It's the conning juries into bankrupting practices that bothers me. Notice that Edwards never took cases in which the victim lived..... he didn't want any rebuttal to his creative montages.
If practices such as his are not reigned in through tort reform, there's no point in health care reform.

78 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:26:47pm

re: #45 albusteve

hahaha!...trailer trash is the perfect description of those two imo

unnecessary and unhelpful. repeating it only lessens your efficacy in other discussions, imho. but that's my last two cents on it, so we can move along...

79 Mocking Jay  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:27:00pm

re: #66 albusteve

they are offensive people...what's the big deal?

What's offensive about "hillbilly trailer trash?" Are you fucking kidding me?

80 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:27:00pm

re: #75 windupbird

PFF you could live in Seattle again. Or even #(*&@$ Vancouver (the BC one, the other one doesn't count).

81 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:27:17pm

re: #70 Aceofwhat?

Pursuing a claim against a physician by attempting to persuade a jury that you're right despite scientific consensus to the contrary.

Good for your father. Safe working conditions, imho, lag behind other priorities too often at too many companies. No one should be forced to perform unsafe actions at work.


fair enough, cheers :) I've worked in health care, so I have witnessed the burn of being accused of things in the field unfairly.

82 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:27:35pm

re: #75 windupbird

I'll gleefully admit Portland is a little nuts. it's not for everyone! I can never live anywhere else.

many people can say that...I'd rather die than be stuck in Portland...NM is heaven on earth

83 TampaKnight  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:27:51pm

Portland is extreme liberal land.

84 Mr. Crankypants  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:28:06pm

re: #80 windsagio

I'd rather go visit places like that so I could go back to saneville when I've had too much crazytown.

85 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:28:20pm

re: #79 JasonA

What's offensive about "hillbilly trailer trash?" Are you fucking kidding me?

I didn't say it wasn't offensive...what's your reading problem have to do with my statement?

86 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:28:21pm

re: #82 albusteve

can't handle the rain? We had a 100+ degree summer last year, a southwesterner would feel right at home!

... actually, you might find the green stuff a bit creepy >>

87 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:29:00pm

re: #83 TampaKnight

well its all relative. In Portland, we talk about the crazy liberals in Eugene.

88 The Shadow Do  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:29:08pm

re: #26 windsagio

Well Jason beat me to it, but look at Mr. Clinton, or Thurmond's extra dughter :p

Something about those guys makes it TOTALLY impossible for them to keep their pants on!


I believe that 'something' is called scruples. Lack of seems more and more acceptable these days - certainly quite common.

89 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:29:12pm

re: #67 reine.de.tout

Good news!
All in one day, eh?

Yeah, it all happened in the past couple of hours. I'm in shock.

90 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:29:47pm

re: #77 tradewind

I have no problem with representing injured people.
It's the conning juries into bankrupting practices that bothers me. Notice that Edwards never took cases in which the victim lived... he didn't want any rebuttal to his creative montages.
If practices such as his are not reigned in through tort reform, there's no point in health care reform.


Tort reform is not a large enough percentage of health costs for it to matter much, but I do agree that it would help. But if a physician truly ruins someone's life, bankrupting a practice is something I wouldn't blink an eye at. I'd like to see a more efficient system of malpractice insurance, myself.

91 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:29:48pm

re: #88 The Shadow Do

...

...

Wait, having scruples makes you want to sleep around?

Either you missed something or I did.

92 TampaKnight  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:30:08pm

Speaking of guitarists, I just got done trying to play "For the Love of God" by Steve Vai.

I failed.

93 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:30:23pm

re: #90 windupbird

its much more satisfying to blame the lawyers than it is to blame the insurance companies :P

94 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:30:32pm

re: #89 Killgore Trout

Yeah, it all happened in the past couple of hours. I'm in shock.

You have a new place picked out?

95 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:30:39pm

re: #78 Aceofwhat?

unnecessary and unhelpful. repeating it only lessens your efficacy in other discussions, imho. but that's my last two cents on it, so we can move along...

oh geez, not this again...I don't give a hoot...dingdong me all you want, laugh at and ignore me...don't really care if your offended by my opinion of the Clintons...would you want to hang out with these people?...good lord

96 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:30:44pm

re: #82 albusteve

many people can say that...I'd rather die than be stuck in Portland...NM is heaven on earth


Guess we won't cross paths, and I'll happily enjoy all 300+ varieties of our awesome beer by myself.

(then again, a bunch of our stuff makes it out to NM, world class beers have a habit of doing that)

97 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:31:16pm

re: #95 albusteve

lol steve, you really enjoy being the class oscar, don't ya? >>

98 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:31:41pm

re: #92 TampaKnight

Speaking of guitarists, I just got done trying to play "For the Love of God" by Steve Vai.

I failed.


Great song, and what were you thinking? :D

I knew a guy in high school who could play Satriani's Mystical Potato Head Groove Thing note for note. When my friend (who is also a guitarist) saw him do it, he screamed and ran out of the room :D

99 tradewind  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:31:41pm

re: #37 windupbird
Oh please..... you know there's a difference. Workplace injuries happen, and the people need representation.
Soliciting to initiate litigation by people who had less than perfect medical outcomes , even when their doctors followed accepted medical practice, is an entirely different thing.

100 jaunte  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:31:45pm

re: #92 TampaKnight

Speaking of guitarists, I just got done trying to play "For the Love of God" by Steve Vai.

I failed.

You might enjoy this, if you haven't seen it before:
Steve Vai On His Audition for Frank Zappa's Band

101 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:31:50pm

re: #58 Killgore Trout

Wow, What an afternoon I've had. I just got back from talking to a real estate agent about selling my house. She seemed very optimistic about price and making a quick sale. When I got home I learned that all my financial concerns are gone. For the time being I have access to more liquid cash than I have ever had my entire life! Wow. Too good to be true.

Sounds great! Congratulations!

Can I have a loan?

/kidding! I kid!

102 The Shadow Do  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:31:52pm

re: #91 windsagio

...

...

Wait, having scruples makes you want to sleep around?

Either you missed something or I did.

"lack of"...

103 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:32:11pm

re: #97 windsagio

lol steve, you really enjoy being the class oscar, don't ya? >>


Updinging him for the term "dingdong"

104 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:32:12pm

I don't care for Albusteve's description of the Clintons.

But some of you laugh the loudest when SpaceJesus makes disparaging remarks about "the south" and those of us here.

Get a grip.

105 Mocking Jay  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:32:21pm

re: #101 Charles

Sounds great! Congratulations!

Can I have a loan?

/kidding! I kid!


Hey! Your dingers are back!

106 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:32:26pm

re: #86 windsagio

can't handle the rain? We had a 100+ degree summer last year, a southwesterner would feel right at home!

... actually, you might find the green stuff a bit creepy >>

we could use more rain down here...30-40 year drought has taken it's toll and NYorkers and Californians are flocking here...not good resource wise

107 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:32:31pm

An Iowan, an Oregonian, a Atlantan and a New Yorker were riding around in a van one day. The Iowan found an ear of corn under his seat, rolled down the window, and flung it out.
"Why did you do that?" asked the others.
"Oh," said the Iowan, "Everywhere I look in Iowa, it's nothing but corn, corn, corn! Sometimes I think the houses are tiled with it. I'm sick to death of it.!"
So they rode on. Presently the Oregonian found a potato under his seat, rolled down the window, and flung it out.
"Why did you do that?" asked the others.
"Man!" exclaimed the Oregonian. "You can't turn around in Oregon without having potatoes in your face at every turn. There's no getting away from them?"
So they rode on. Presently, the Atlantan opened the sliding door, and flung out the New Yorker.

/

108 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:33:31pm

re: #61 jaunte

Classical.

109 TampaKnight  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:33:47pm

re: #100 jaunte

You might enjoy this, if you haven't seen it before:
Steve Vai On His Audition for Frank Zappa's Band

Oh yea I've seen it. Vai is one of my favorite shred guitarists. Being a guitarist myself, I've come to love nearly every genre of guitar playing.

I've tricked my Ibanez out but it's still nowhere near Vai's.

110 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:34:02pm

re: #99 tradewind

Oh please... you know there's a difference. Workplace injuries happen, and the people need representation.
Soliciting to initiate litigation by people who had less than perfect medical outcomes , even when their doctors followed accepted medical practice, is an entirely different thing.

less than perfect medical outcomes

*cough*

111 recusancy  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:34:05pm

re: #58 Killgore Trout

Wow, What an afternoon I've had. I just got back from talking to a real estate agent about selling my house. She seemed very optimistic about price and making a quick sale. When I got home I learned that all my financial concerns are gone. For the time being I have access to more liquid cash than I have ever had my entire life! Wow. Too good to be true.

What region do you live in? I've been hearing stuff like this a lot lately. About demand finally catching up to supply in real estate.

112 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:34:06pm

re: #104 reine.de.tout

I don't care for Albusteve's description of the Clintons.

But some of you laugh the loudest when SpaceJesus makes disparaging remarks about "the south" and those of us here.

Get a grip.

I tend to laugh at just about everything!
/Muhahahaha!
:D

113 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:34:06pm

re: #96 windupbird

Guess we won't cross paths, and I'll happily enjoy all 300+ varieties of our awesome beer by myself.

(then again, a bunch of our stuff makes it out to NM, world class beers have a habit of doing that)

you can have your pretentious beers...Budweiser works fine down here...something tells me you are not rugged enough for this country

114 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:34:10pm

re: #90 windupbird

Tort reform is not a large enough percentage of health costs for it to matter much, but I do agree that it would help. But if a physician truly ruins someone's life, bankrupting a practice is something I wouldn't blink an eye at. I'd like to see a more efficient system of malpractice insurance, myself.

i've argued (and will) for tort reform all across these pages for the purposes of avoiding Dr. flight, as opposed to cost reduction.

However, I'll also offer that doctors could do a damn sight better at policing their own...tort reform should be combined with a much stronger slap-down policy. Without having to worry that yanking a license will cost bazillions (because of a damages cap), institutions all over the country should be liberated, even required, to be far less tolerant of physicians with unacceptable safety records.

How's that for compromise?

115 Mr. Crankypants  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:34:15pm

re: #107 The Sanity Inspector

Love that!

116 wrenchwench  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:34:28pm

re: #101 Charles

Error: admin comments cannot be rated.

re: #105 JasonA

Hey! Your dingers are back!

They're phony dingers.

117 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:34:39pm

re: #83 TampaKnight

Portland is extreme liberal land.

I paid a visit to the hipster end of Seattle one time, and went into an internet cafe. I went to the restroom, but was brought up short--over one door was a circular saw blade, and I forget what over the other one. I asked the counter guy which was the men's room. He looked at me like I had two heads, and said, "They're unisex!"

118 The Shadow Do  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:35:10pm

re: #58 Killgore Trout

Wow, What an afternoon I've had. I just got back from talking to a real estate agent about selling my house. She seemed very optimistic about price and making a quick sale. When I got home I learned that all my financial concerns are gone. For the time being I have access to more liquid cash than I have ever had my entire life! Wow. Too good to be true.

If your realtor is that enthused, mark the price up. Do not leave money on the table. And the realtor may be painting a pretty picture for the listing?

119 TampaKnight  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:35:15pm

re: #117 The Sanity Inspector

I paid a visit to the hipster end of Seattle one time, and went into an internet cafe. I went to the restroom, but was brought up short--over one door was a circular saw blade, and I forget what over the other one. I asked the counter guy which was the men's room. He looked at me like I had two heads, and said, "They're unisex!"

LMAO.

120 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:35:35pm

re: #113 albusteve

Now *thats* the american way. Making something bad (low quality beer) into something good (toughness!)

121 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:35:45pm

re: #94 reine.de.tout

You have a new place picked out?


I do have a listing that I'm very interested in but I need to go down and actually look at it in person. I could be making an offer in two weeks.

122 Mr. Crankypants  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:36:04pm

re: #116 wrenchwench

Must not make comment...

123 TampaKnight  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:36:07pm

I'm so freaking excited- I get to do training for work in WILLIAMSBURG, VA. Such a historic city.

Anyone been there?

124 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:36:20pm

re: #83 TampaKnight

Portland is extreme liberal land.

And I'm an exxxtereme liberal!

You know what extreme liberalness gets you? The best biking city in America, awesome pubs, world class microbrews, the best new/used bookstore in the country, an awesome music scene...

125 Mocking Jay  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:36:31pm

re: #116 wrenchwench

They're phony dingers.

I've been bamboozled!

126 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:36:44pm

re: #101 Charles
Thanks.


Can I have a loan?

/kidding! I kid!


No.
/srsly
;)

127 recusancy  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:36:51pm

re: #113 albusteve

you can have your pretentious beers...Budweiser works fine down here...something tells me you are not rugged enough for this country

Yeah. It's real rugged to drink carbonated slightly alcoholic water.

128 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:37:05pm

re: #117 The Sanity Inspector

I paid a visit to the hipster end of Seattle one time, and went into an internet cafe. I went to the restroom, but was brought up short--over one door was a circular saw blade, and I forget what over the other one. I asked the counter guy which was the men's room. He looked at me like I had two heads, and said, "They're unisex!"

You've never been to a club or restuarant where they only had one bathroom?

129 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:37:13pm

re: #123 TampaKnight

Oh I used to visit there almost every summer (My dad was in the senior command at the naval supply base there, and I'd go when he did sometimes), amazing place. W&M is imo the most beautiful college in the country :)

130 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:37:17pm

Congrats KT!
:)

131 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:37:30pm

re: #111 recusancy

What region do you live in? I've been hearing stuff like this a lot lately. About demand finally catching up to supply in real estate.

I'm in the left coast Portland. The housing market here wasn't hit as bad as other markets.

132 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:37:32pm

re: #120 windsagio

Now *thats* the american way. Making something bad (low quality beer) into something good (toughness!)

just spoofing the city slickers...we don't have enough nail salons for all of them

133 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:37:59pm

re: #121 Killgore Trout

I do have a listing that I'm very interested in but I need to go down and actually look at it in person. I could be making an offer in two weeks.

Killgore - happy for you!
Good luck with everything.

134 TampaKnight  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:37:59pm

re: #129 windsagio

Oh I used to visit there almost every summer (My dad was in the senior command at the naval supply base there, and I'd go when he did sometimes), amazing place. W&M is imo the most beautiful college in the country :)

I can't wait. After my classes are done each day I'm going to head out and explore the city. It was there or LA....easy choice for me ;)

135 Mr. Crankypants  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:38:12pm

re: #113 albusteve

you can have your pretentious beers..

I'm inspired...feel a new poem coming on...

136 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:38:13pm

re: #133 reine.de.tout

How's your cold?

137 Mocking Jay  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:38:14pm

re: #107 The Sanity Inspector

I've heard that joke before, only it involved an Italian, a Russian, an American and a Mexican. I won't be retelling it here...

138 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:38:22pm

re: #132 albusteve

its fun; because (in)advertantly, you hit on a common theme. People really think that way, alot.

139 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:38:36pm

By the way, anyone know anything about comic book collecting? I recently learned that my mom preserved my brother's and my entire comic book collection from the 1960s, including many first editions of popular Marvel comics (X-Men, Fantastic Four, Spiderman, Avengers, Daredevil, I had 'em all), Creepy, Eerie, Cracked, MAD Magazine, Richie Rich, Archie, etc. They're all in really good shape, probably not mint condition because they weren't in airtight bags and the paper has yellowed, but definitely excellent condition. They've been in a sealed wooden crate for decades.

There are probably more than 500 comics total. I haven't cataloged them yet, but if anyone has experience in this let me know.

140 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:38:52pm

re: #136 Killgore Trout

How's your cold?

Better - much better, less coughing, I can see light at the end of the tunnel! Finally!
thanks.

141 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:39:01pm

re: #124 WindUpBird

And I'm an exxxtereme liberal!

You know what extreme liberalness gets you? The best biking city in America, awesome pubs, world class microbrews, the best new/used bookstore in the country, an awesome music scene...

all of which will be closed down if the GOP doesn't get this economy going

142 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:39:30pm

re: #134 TampaKnight

Man, I got accepted to William and Mary, and didn't go due to money concerns. I should have done it >>

143 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:39:32pm

re: #113 albusteve

you can have your pretentious beers...Budweiser works fine down here...something tells me you are not rugged enough for this country

Nope, I'm not. i'm a fair haired queer little twig, and I love eating good food and drinking good beer.

I'm pretty sure Bud isn't even American anymore. I believe it's owned by Belgians now. I'll support American companies with my food and drink purchases.

144 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:39:46pm

re: #58 Killgore Trout

Wow, What an afternoon I've had. I just got back from talking to a real estate agent about selling my house. She seemed very optimistic about price and making a quick sale. When I got home I learned that all my financial concerns are gone. For the time being I have access to more liquid cash than I have ever had my entire life! Wow. Too good to be true.

Congratulations to you & your family! Please consider my advice from the other week: Keep paying that mortgage, even though it's gone! Put it into savings, money market, index funds, growth funds, or whatever mixture of those that makes sense for you. Have fun, & buy some big boy toys, but be aware of the power you now hold to change your whole family tree, as Dave Ramsey says.

Congratulations once again!

145 TampaKnight  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:39:55pm

re: #142 windsagio

Man, I got accepted to William and Mary, and didn't go due to money concerns. I should have done it >>

My buddy went there and said it was an amazing experience.

146 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:40:02pm

re: #131 Killgore Trout

I'm in the left coast Portland. The housing market here wasn't hit as bad as other markets.


We didn't expand into exurb hell like Vegas and Arizona did, that helped.

147 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:40:30pm

re: #58 Killgore Trout

Congratulations!
What fun for you!
Wheeeee

148 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:40:50pm

re: #116 wrenchwench

They're phony dingers.

I love you guys and all, but you can have my dinger when you pry it from my cold, dead hands.

(too much?)

149 Digital Display  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:40:57pm

re: #143 WindUpBird

Nope, I'm not. i'm a fair haired queer little twig, and I love eating good food and drinking good beer.

I'm pretty sure Bud isn't even American anymore. I believe it's owned by Belgians now. I'll support American companies with my food and drink purchases.

We could talk food all night

150 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:41:05pm

re: #139 Charles

By the way, anyone know anything about comic book collecting? I recently learned that my mom preserved my brother's and my entire comic book collection from the 1960s, including many first editions of popular Marvel comics (X-Men, Fantastic Four, Spiderman, Avengers, Daredevil, I had 'em all), Creepy, Eerie, Cracked, MAD Magazine, Richie Rich, Archie, etc. They're all in really good shape, probably not mint condition because they weren't in airtight bags and the paper has yellowed, but definitely excellent condition. They've been in a sealed wooden crate for decades.

There are probably more than 500 comics total. I haven't cataloged them yet, but if anyone has experience in this let me know.

good 'ol mom...taking care of business for the kids...how cool is that?....I'm a huge mom fan

151 The Shadow Do  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:41:10pm

re: #143 WindUpBird

Nope, I'm not. i'm a fair haired queer little twig, and I love eating good food and drinking good beer.

I'm pretty sure Bud isn't even American anymore. I believe it's owned by Belgians now. I'll support American companies with my food and drink purchases.

Twinkies and Old Milwaukee?

152 Mocking Jay  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:41:27pm

re: #139 Charles

By the way, anyone know anything about comic book collecting? I recently learned that my mom preserved my brother's and my entire comic book collection from the 1960s, including many first editions of popular Marvel comics (X-Men, Fantastic Four, Spiderman, Avengers, Daredevil, I had 'em all), Creepy, Eerie, Cracked, MAD Magazine, Richie Rich, Archie, etc. They're all in really good shape, probably not mint condition because they weren't in airtight bags and the paper has yellowed, but definitely excellent condition. They've been in a sealed wooden crate for decades.

There are probably more than 500 comics total. I haven't cataloged them yet, but if anyone has experience in this let me know.

Look them up on ebay under completed listings and try to get an idea of what they're worth. If they're in pretty good condition and worth, oh at least a couple of hundred of bucks, let's say, then send them in to be graded.

153 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:41:38pm

re: #131 Killgore Trout

re: #146 WindUpBird

Man, at some point we should have a Portland Beer Party.

That would be Rad.

154 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:41:56pm

re: #139 Charles

By the way, anyone know anything about comic book collecting? I recently learned that my mom preserved my brother's and my entire comic book collection from the 1960s, including many first editions of popular Marvel comics (X-Men, Fantastic Four, Spiderman, Avengers, Daredevil, I had 'em all), Creepy, Eerie, Cracked, MAD Magazine, Richie Rich, Archie, etc. They're all in really good shape, probably not mint condition because they weren't in airtight bags and the paper has yellowed, but definitely excellent condition. They've been in a sealed wooden crate for decades.

There are probably more than 500 comics total. I haven't cataloged them yet, but if anyone has experience in this let me know.

Go to a comics store and get a collector's guide, and then start adding up all the $$$ :D

155 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:42:20pm

re: #112 Varek Raith

I tend to laugh at just about everything!
/Muhahahaha!
:D

Actually, I laugh too.
'cept right now - this cough medicine with codeine - I think it makes me really cranky. I've been trying to keep quiet, and I think I shall go back to keeping quiet for a bit more.

156 Mr. Crankypants  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:42:29pm

Well I'm off to play Torchlight for an hour or two...have a good night all..

157 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:42:54pm

re: #147 Floral Giraffe

Congratulations!
What fun for you!
Wheee

Flo!
you're so cute- I can just picture you jumping up and down for joy.

158 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:43:06pm

re: #151 The Shadow Do

Twinkies and Old Milwaukee?

If I have to have snack food and bad beer, it's doritos and Icehouse. Of all the macro swill, Icehouse is the best. Reminds me of going to Sonics games with my dad.

159 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:43:10pm

re: #155 reine.de.tout

Actually, I laugh too.
'cept right now - this cough medicine with codeine - I think it makes me really cranky. I've been trying to keep quiet, and I think I shall go back to keeping quiet for a bit more.

Get well soon!
:)

160 TampaKnight  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:43:12pm

Question to the board/CHARLES:

I belong to a bi-weekly local Young Republicans group. Can I use blog entries from this site in discussion?

161 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:43:14pm

re: #105 JasonA

Hey! Your dingers are back!

Did you try to use them?
Please do!
LOL!

162 Mocking Jay  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:43:20pm

re: #154 WindUpBird

Go to a comics store and get a collector's guide, and then start adding up all the $$$ :D

I don't think it's worth it to buy a price guide. No one pays those prices any more.

163 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:43:23pm

This might have been posted already. It's a very cool XKCD.

[Link: xkcd.com...]

164 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:43:30pm

re: #156 PT Barnum

Well I'm off to play Torchlight for an hour or two...have a good night all..


GREAT GAME. The good devs from Diablo.

165 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:43:49pm

re: #152 JasonA

makes me think of the first episode of Venture Bros' Season 4. One of the key plots is about a comic books grading going down.

166 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:43:51pm

re: #155 reine.de.tout

Actually, I laugh too.
'cept right now - this cough medicine with codeine - I think it makes me really cranky. I've been trying to keep quiet, and I think I shall go back to keeping quiet for a bit more.

that just means you're not taking enough///

167 tradewind  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:44:03pm

re: #96 windupbird
Since I have to get to PDX occasionally, here's my take: Portland is not quite as awesome as Portlanders believe, but the great beer and wonderful caffeine allow the illusion to persist .
:)

168 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:44:15pm

re: #156 PT Barnum

+ for torchlight. "What Diablo 3 should be!"

169 brookly red  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:44:20pm

re: #139 Charles

By the way, anyone know anything about comic book collecting? I recently learned that my mom preserved my brother's and my entire comic book collection from the 1960s, including many first editions of popular Marvel comics (X-Men, Fantastic Four, Spiderman, Avengers, Daredevil, I had 'em all), Creepy, Eerie, Cracked, MAD Magazine, Richie Rich, Archie, etc. They're all in really good shape, probably not mint condition because they weren't in airtight bags and the paper has yellowed, but definitely excellent condition. They've been in a sealed wooden crate for decades.

There are probably more than 500 comics total. I haven't cataloged them yet, but if anyone has experience in this let me know.

(I worked for one of the big 2 for many years ) Comics are like coins most of them are like face value but you may have a gem in the mix... seek professional appraising & don't sell in a bad market.

170 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:44:22pm

re: #151 The Shadow Do

Twinkies and Old Milwaukee?

heh...progs in reverse...gimme a PBR! (how cool am I?)

171 Mocking Jay  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:44:22pm

re: #163 Decatur Deb

This might have been posted already. It's a very cool XKCD.

[Link: xkcd.com...]

Okay, now I feel bad for our lil rovers :(

172 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:44:37pm

re: #162 JasonA

I don't think it's worth it to buy a price guide. No one pays those prices any more.


See, i'm out of the comics loop. I guess it's probably all ebay these dsys, huh? The only comics I collect these days are artsy bound stuff like Dave McKean books and the Flight anthologies.

173 Kragar  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:46:02pm

re: #139 Charles

My brother probably could point you in the right direction.

174 Mocking Jay  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:46:10pm

re: #172 WindUpBird

See, i'm out of the comics loop. I guess it's probably all ebay these dsys, huh? The only comics I collect these days are artsy bound stuff like Dave McKean books and the Flight anthologies.

It might be the only option for a lot of people. There were a lot more stores back in the boom era of the 90s. Now, not so much.

175 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:46:10pm

re: #171 JasonA

Okay, now I feel bad for our lil rovers :(

Maybe someday we'll go pick the little sucker up.

176 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:46:22pm

re: #172 WindUpBird

Only comics I ever had that were worth a damn were my first printing Albedos, and they were worth almost nothing by comic collecting standards.

177 cliffster  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:46:54pm

re: #139 Charles

another benefit of running a blog - lots of free advice from your readers. only a benefit if your readers are not morons.

178 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:47:02pm

re: #175 Decatur Deb

Maybe someday we'll go pick the little sucker up.

...or it'll become sentient and seek out revenge against us for leaving it there...
:P

179 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:47:57pm

re: #167 tradewind

Since I have to get to PDX occasionally, here's my take: Portland is not quite as awesome as Portlanders believe, but the great beer and wonderful caffeine allow the illusion to persist .
:)


You're free to be incorrect! But you're also not liberal, so the culture of our town might sometimes grate. The freak-friendlier you are, the more fun you'll have here. The more art you make, the more resources you'll be able to avil yourself of. And the poorer you are, the more you're learn just how much further your dolla goes here than it does in California or Seattle.

I warn everyone who wants to move here of Portland's drawbacks: our economy sucks. The city is great, but you had better either have a source of income that comes from elsewhere, or get used to not making the mad money that you did in San Jose or Seattle.

180 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:48:22pm

e-bay has a whole section on comics.

Might be a place to get a quick idea of what's what.

181 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:48:41pm

ABQ has tried to get a pro team down here for decades...we're to stupid to appreciate and support one they say...I love it....hahaha!...bigger cities are for tourists to enjoy...there is no inherent value to them otherwise...there is steep culture everywhere

182 The Shadow Do  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:48:55pm

re: #158 WindUpBird

If I have to have snack food and bad beer, it's doritos and Icehouse. Of all the macro swill, Icehouse is the best. Reminds me of going to Sonics games with my dad.

That there is good livin'. Damn wrong about the Sonics though. Now in OKC. I loved me some Jack Sikma

183 cliffster  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:49:32pm

re: #177 cliffster

another benefit of running a blog - lots of free advice from your readers. only a benefit if your readers are not morons.

Present company excluded from said moronhood.

184 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:49:55pm

re: #182 The Shadow Do

I used to watch some Pro basketball, but that crap put me off the sport forever.

Also offa Oklahoma City :P

185 brookly red  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:50:29pm

re: #181 albusteve

ABQ has tried to get a pro team down here for decades...we're to stupid to appreciate and support one they say...I love it...hahaha!...bigger cities are for tourists to enjoy...there is no inherent value to them otherwise...there is steep culture everywhere

we got the Nets moving in about 12 blocks from here... I would love it if you could make them a better offer...

186 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:50:41pm

re: #139 Charles

Hire someone to make a list of them & go onto *cough* Ebay & advance search "completed listings" & record the price. You could also take the list w/o prices to an auction house. Although, as in many vintage items, condition is 80% of the value. The exception being something really rare.
I have a trusted & respected LA auctioneer, who could refer you to a "comics specialist". LAmodernauctions dot com. Email, if you want to use my name.

187 The Shadow Do  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:50:45pm

re: #170 albusteve

heh...progs in reverse...gimme a PBR! (how cool am I?)

the coolest! Pabst is good shit. Always a case in my dad's or uncle's garage. Then came Friday night fights on TV

188 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:50:52pm

re: #182 The Shadow Do

That there is good livin'. Damn wrong about the Sonics though. Now in OKC. I loved me some Jack Sikma

When the Sonics left Seattle, i stopped watching basketball. :(

189 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:51:41pm

re: #123 TampaKnight

I'm so freaking excited- I get to do training for work in WILLIAMSBURG, VA. Such a historic city.

Anyone been there?

Once when I was a small child.

You remember the Letterman (or maybe Leno) bit on Williamsburg from the Clinton years? The president of China visited the U.S. and was shown around Williamsburg. Clinton said that, if not for Williamsburg, there would be no United States. The Chinese president replied that, if not for China, there would be no Williamsburg gift shop.

190 Kragar  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:52:25pm

Ah, 6 pm on a Friday night and I'm looking at another 4 hours here at work.

191 What, me worry?  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:52:42pm

Charles, check out this site. They have an e-book for $25. Not a terribly large amount of money.

[Link: www.comic-book-collection-made-easy.com...]

192 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:53:28pm

re: #182 The Shadow Do

That there is good livin'. Damn wrong about the Sonics though. Now in OKC. I loved me some Jack Sikma

I still remember how when he was with the Bucks he beat the Hawks on a last second basket one time.

193 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:53:36pm

re: #187 The Shadow Do

the coolest! Pabst is good shit. Always a case in my dad's or uncle's garage. Then came Friday night fights on TV

The new Pabst brewed under contract or the old stuff?

194 cliffster  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:53:36pm

re: #189 The Sanity Inspector

bs, That never happened, I don't believe it. But I still really like the story

195 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:53:58pm

re: #188 WindUpBird

When the Sonics left Seattle, i stopped watching basketball. :(

LeBron is fun. I still lived in cleveland when he was in HS, got to see him there. Highly underrated passer.

196 The Shadow Do  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:53:59pm

re: #188 WindUpBird

When the Sonics left Seattle, i stopped watching basketball. :(

I weep for you, I do

197 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:54:22pm

re: #186 Floral Giraffe

Thanks - I saved your comment to my Favorites, for when I have a better idea of what's in the collection.

198 The Shadow Do  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:55:14pm

re: #192 The Sanity Inspector

I still remember how when he was with the Bucks he beat the Hawks on a last second basket one time.

Nowitzike prototype

200 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:55:58pm

re: #190 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Ah, 6 pm on a Friday night and I'm looking at another 4 hours here at work.

What about the weenie?

201 The Shadow Do  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:56:06pm

re: #193 WindUpBird

The new Pabst brewed under contract or the old stuff?

The real deal, as was Friday Night Fights.

202 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:56:08pm

re: #170 albusteve

heh...progs in reverse...gimme a PBR! (how cool am I?)

Actually, PBR in Portland is what the skinny-women's-jeans hipsters drink in the trendy music venues. People with families in the cities drink micros, I often see them in the grocery stores, three kids in tow, dragging two cases of Widmer to the checkout line. We have like five beer festivals a year, all ages, family affairs, I've seen 80-year-old women going up for imperial IPAs.

203 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:56:34pm

re: #196 The Shadow Do

I weep for you, I do


And the Blazers! The blazers went from being all criminals, to being all injured! Can't win.

204 brookly red  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:56:55pm

re: #199 abolitionist

9/11 trials to be moved from NYC
White House abandons plans to try alleged mastermind in Manhattan

Chuckie Shooomer saw the writing on the wall...

205 The Shadow Do  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:56:57pm

re: #195 Aceofwhat?

LeBron is fun. I still lived in cleveland when he was in HS, got to see him there. Highly underrated passer.

Yup, could not shoot for shit till he hit the pros and learned how.

206 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:56:58pm

re: #162 JasonA

I don't think it's worth it to buy a price guide. No one pays those prices any more.

If there is a comics equivalent of bookfinder.com it'd be possible to get some real-time asking prices for those comic books. But, I don't immediately see one, sorry.

207 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:57:15pm

re: #201 The Shadow Do

The real deal, as was Friday Night Fights.

I don't think they make it anymore. Sucks, I wanted to know what the reall PBR tasted like. I'm not really into lagers, but I'm curious.

208 tradewind  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:57:18pm

re: #202 WindUpBird
/Like I said.... you gotta do what you can to survive.//

209 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:57:49pm

re: #203 WindUpBird

And the Blazers! The blazers went from being all criminals, to being all injured! Can't win.

the blazers were a blast to watch...last year.

sorry bout that

210 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:57:53pm

re: #194 cliffster

bs, That never happened, I don't believe it. But I still really like the story

Erm, did you catch the part where I said it was a Letterman or Leno bit?

211 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:57:55pm
212 TampaKnight  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:57:56pm

re: #202 WindUpBird

Actually, PBR in Portland is what the skinny-women's-jeans hipsters drink in the trendy music venues. People with families in the cities drink micros, I often see them in the grocery stores, three kids in tow, dragging two cases of Widmer to the checkout line. We have like five beer festivals a year, all ages, family affairs, I've seen 80-year-old women going up for imperial IPAs.

I'll have you know that our local brewery, Cigar City, took home a gold medal at this year's GABF.

213 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:58:35pm

re: #208 tradewind

/Like I said... you gotta do what you can to survive.//


it's hard work, drinking all these heavy ales. i'll try to press on through the dark times.

214 cliffster  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:59:31pm

re: #205 The Shadow Do

Yup, could not shoot for shit till he hit the pros and learned how.

LeBron should not be allowed to play in the NBA - logic being that he is not a human. They have to start a new league for people like him. It'd be a boring league though. One guy playing with himself. Who'd watch that? Well, some people pay money for that I guess.

215 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:59:33pm

Gotta go, here's some Spinners:

216 tradewind  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 5:59:39pm

re: #204 brookly red
Don't ya' just love it when liberals do the right thing for the wrong reasons?//
Whatever.... if it means that NYC won't have to pay 200 million bucks (for starters) to get the bullseye painted on with an even broader brush, it's a good thing.

217 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:00:34pm

re: #212 TampaKnight

I'll have you know that our local brewery, Cigar City, took home a gold medal at this year's GABF.

You have a Yeungling plant down there. They bottle a decent Black and Tan.
(For when I can't like Guinness as much as I should.)

218 cliffster  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:00:38pm

re: #210 The Sanity Inspector

Erm, did you catch the part where I said it was a Letterman or Leno bit?

Fuck me, no. But, that gives a lot of credibility to my accusation that it never happened.

219 brookly red  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:01:23pm

re: #216 tradewind

Don't ya' just love it when liberals do the right thing for the wrong reasons?//
Whatever... if it means that NYC won't have to pay 200 million bucks (for starters) to get the bullseye painted on with an even broader brush, it's a good thing.

it is what it is... now make it go away.

220 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:01:24pm

re: #214 cliffster

LeBron should not be allowed to play in the NBA - logic being that he is not a human. They have to start a new league for people like him. It'd be a boring league though. One guy playing with himself. Who'd watch that? Well, some people pay money for that I guess.

agree. no one that size should be able to move that fast. in person, it's practically inhuman.

221 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:01:40pm

re: #216 tradewind

I thought it wasn't 'cuz they were afraid of terrorists >>

222 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:01:55pm

re: #212 TampaKnight

I'll have you know that our local brewery, Cigar City, took home a gold medal at this year's GABF.

I think I had that AT the GABF! I remember lurking around the Floriday and southern tables because I can't fucking get any southern beers distributed here. I had many many many beers at the GABF. *_*

If I listed all the Portland beers that have won awards at the GABF, I'd be here all night. But it's the culture here, it's just all these brewmasters all cross-pollinating, all opening restaurants. We used to have laws against brewpubs, then the McMenamin brothers lobbied to change them, then the brewpub became the symbol of Portland.

223 Kragar  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:02:18pm

re: #200 MandyManners

What about the weenie?

Guess who I get to babysit?

224 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:02:20pm

Apparently I've reached the coveted right wing plateau of being equated with both Al Gore and Osama bin Laden -- Robert Stacy McCain's latest post says, "Charles Johnson, Al Gore and Osama bin Laden Agree on Climate Change!"

225 prairiefire  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:02:29pm

re: #139 Charles

What a smart mother! You can do item searches on Ebay to see how the market is. Type in title and year in the search window. Click on "completed auctions" to see how much things are going for. Many times, things in groups or sets will get a higher price than individually.

226 The Shadow Do  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:02:37pm

re: #207 WindUpBird

I don't think they make it anymore. Sucks, I wanted to know what the reall PBR tasted like. I'm not really into lagers, but I'm curious.

There's a reason they held a big chunk of the market back in the day. Pretty good, no ... real good

227 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:02:48pm

re: #217 Decatur Deb

You have a Yeungling plant down there. They bottle a decent Black and Tan.
(For when I can't like Guinness as much as I should.)


I've had a lot of Yeunglign when I visit the east coast for conventions. it doesn't blow me away, but it's good stuff, it's reliably tasty.

228 What, me worry?  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:02:57pm

Anyone watching Caprica?

I told Mr. Moon, "Are you recording 'Cap-reek-a'?" He said, "Paprika? It's not a spice!"

So now we call it Paprika.

229 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:03:21pm

re: #211 WindUpBird

They should try him on the space station.

Why move him from whereever it's decided that he should be held during the trial? One word: teleconferencing.

230 brookly red  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:03:24pm

re: #221 windsagio

I thought it wasn't 'cuz they were afraid of terrorists >>

the point of the original attack was to disrupt business, why pray tell do it again for them?

231 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:03:33pm

re: #224 Charles

Apparently I've reached the coveted right wing plateau of being equated with both Al Gore and Osama bin Laden -- Robert Stacy McCain's latest post says, "Charles Johnson, Al Gore and Osama bin Laden Agree on Climate Change!"


The hyperbole gets better and better. next you'll be equated with Pol Pot, Megatron, and Hans Gruber from Die Hard.

232 TampaKnight  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:04:02pm

re: #224 Charles

Apparently I've reached the coveted right wing plateau of being equated with both Al Gore and Osama bin Laden -- Robert Stacy McCain's latest post says, "Charles Johnson, Al Gore and Osama bin Laden Agree on Climate Change!"

It all makes sense now....

233 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:04:31pm

re: #228 marjoriemoon

Anyone watching Caprica?

I told Mr. Moon, "Are you recording 'Cap-reek-a'?" He said, "Paprika? It's not a spice!"

So now we call it Paprika.

It's also an anime and novel;
;)

234 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:04:43pm

re: #229 Aceofwhat?

Why move him from whereever it's decided that he should be held during the trial? One word: teleconferencing.

That'd work! Just leave him in lockup and there could be a big ball of cameras and televisions hovering around him delivering the trial and recording his testimony like in the movie Twelve Monkeys.

235 tradewind  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:04:58pm

re: #221 windsagio
They're making it go away for one reason: They know it's very, very unpopular with the citizens( read voters).

236 Mocking Jay  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:05:19pm

re: #228 marjoriemoon

Anyone watching Caprica?

I told Mr. Moon, "Are you recording 'Cap-reek-a'?" He said, "Paprika? It's not a spice!"

So now we call it Paprika.

I'll be catching the 11 o'clock showing.

237 The Shadow Do  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:05:35pm

re: #214 cliffster

LeBron should not be allowed to play in the NBA - logic being that he is not a human. They have to start a new league for people like him. It'd be a boring league though. One guy playing with himself. Who'd watch that? Well, some people pay money for that I guess.

I associate Lebron with those robot cartoon creations in the Monday Night Football lead in. Ain't really human.

238 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:05:42pm

re: #223 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Guess who I get to babysit?

How old is he?

239 brookly red  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:05:45pm

re: #224 Charles

Apparently I've reached the coveted right wing plateau of being equated with both Al Gore and Osama bin Laden -- Robert Stacy McCain's latest post says, "Charles Johnson, Al Gore and Osama bin Laden Agree on Climate Change!"

/Well if you don't try to blow me up or sell me carbon credits I guess I could get over it...

240 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:05:52pm

re: #235 tradewind

it was a callback to a few days ago.

Those terror trials are very NIMBY.

241 TampaKnight  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:06:02pm

re: #237 The Shadow Do

I associate Lebron with those robot cartoon creations in the Monday Night Football lead in. Ain't really human.

My boys in Orlando beat him last year!!!

242 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:06:03pm

re: #224 Charles

Ace: But I am yet to attain omnipresent supergalactic oneness.
Ashram Monk: No. Wait. THERE it is!
[smiles]
Ashram Monk: You've just attained it.
Ace: I have?
Ashram Monk: Yes! Just now! You are one! I can see it in your eyes. You're more one than anyone!

243 What, me worry?  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:06:09pm

re: #233 Varek Raith

It's also an anime and novel;
;)

lol get outa town!

244 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:06:17pm

re: #221 windsagio

I thought it wasn't 'cuz they were afraid of terrorists >>

yeah, i thought it was Bloomberg put his foot down and said fuck off, we don't want here, just NIMBY stuff.

245 tradewind  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:06:42pm

re: #232 TampaKnight
Just more proof that UBL bin laden the ground for years now.
As If he wouldn't be an AGW denier...//

246 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:07:07pm

re: #234 WindUpBird

That'd work! Just leave him in lockup and there could be a big ball of cameras and televisions hovering around him delivering the trial and recording his testimony like in the movie Twelve Monkeys.

updinged for fantastic movie reference

247 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:07:43pm

re: #246 Aceofwhat?

updinged for fantastic movie reference

I celebrate Gilliam's entire catalog. The soundtrack to that film is also great.

248 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:08:10pm

re: #197 Charles

You really want to hire someone ( Lots of good people out of work) to do the legwork of listing, the magazine & the articles, probably the characters too. VERY tedious. Ebaying them yourself, is a time eater.
Plus, a big collection is frequently more valuable than the individual pieces.
(I sold a dear freinds estate through LA Modern., he's good....)

249 The Shadow Do  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:08:11pm

re: #224 Charles

Apparently I've reached the coveted right wing plateau of being equated with both Al Gore and Osama bin Laden -- Robert Stacy McCain's latest post says, "Charles Johnson, Al Gore and Osama bin Laden Agree on Climate Change!"

Rarefied atmosphere for sure. The reward of living in that nitrogen filled chamber I suppose.

250 Racer X  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:08:17pm

An older, white-haired man walked into a jewelry store one Friday evening with a beautiful young gal at his side.

He told the jeweler he was looking for a special ring for his new girlfriend. The jeweler looked through his stock and brought out a $5,000 ring. The old man said, 'No, I'd like to see something more special.'

At that statement, the jeweler went to his special stock and brought another ring over.. 'Here's a stunning ring at only $40,000,' the jeweler said.

The young lady's eyes sparkled and her whole body trembled with excitement. The old man seeing this said, 'We'll take it.'

The jeweler asked how payment would be made and the old man stated, 'by check. I know you need to make sure my check is good, so I'll write it now and you can call the bank Monday to verify the funds and I'll pick the ring up Monday afternoon,' he said.

Monday morning, the jeweler phoned the old man.

'There's no money in that account.'

'I know,' said the old man, 'But let me tell you about my weekend!'

251 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:09:19pm

re: #224 Charles

Apparently I've reached the coveted right wing plateau of being equated with both Al Gore and Osama bin Laden -- Robert Stacy McCain's latest post says, "Charles Johnson, Al Gore and Osama bin Laden Agree on Climate Change!"

So, RSM doesn't mind being on the same side as the Saudis?
/See, RSM, I can play this game, too!

252 What, me worry?  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:09:32pm

re: #233 Varek Raith

It's also an anime and novel;
;)

My niece is heavy into the anime thing. She's 19 now. She goes to all the ComicCons, dresses up. Her costumes, I must say, are awesome. I know nothing about it but she looks exactly like her characters. Makes everything. She's studying stage design, camerawork in school. I think she'll do well.

253 TampaKnight  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:09:56pm

I still don't believe than Bin Laden is alive.

254 brookly red  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:10:37pm

re: #253 TampaKnight

I still don't believe than Bin Laden is alive.

He is in Iran & he is just fine...

255 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:10:41pm

re: #253 TampaKnight

I still don't believe than Bin Laden is alive.

Yeah, I'm with you on that assessment.

256 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:10:43pm

re: #252 marjoriemoon

My niece is heavy into the anime thing. She's 19 now. She goes to all the ComicCons, dresses up. Her costumes, I must say, are awesome. I know nothing about it but she looks exactly like her characters. Makes everything. She's studying stage design, camerawork in school. I think she'll do well.

I know a looooooot of people like your neice, though they're in their 30's. The scene you're referring to is called "cosplay".

257 jaunte  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:10:56pm

re: #224 Charles

Apparently I've reached the coveted right wing plateau of being equated with both Al Gore and Osama bin Laden -- Robert Stacy McCain's latest post says, "Charles Johnson, Al Gore and Osama bin Laden Agree on Climate Change!"

I was wondering how long it would take someone to get to that.

258 The Shadow Do  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:11:41pm

re: #241 TampaKnight

My boys in Orlando beat him last year!!!

I want that robot on my team. Bet you do too.

259 brookly red  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:11:42pm

re: #257 jaunte

I was wondering how long it would take someone to get to that.

the weird part is I don't think it really was OBL...

260 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:11:55pm

re: #252 marjoriemoon

My niece is heavy into the anime thing. She's 19 now. She goes to all the ComicCons, dresses up. Her costumes, I must say, are awesome. I know nothing about it but she looks exactly like her characters. Makes everything. She's studying stage design, camerawork in school. I think she'll do well.

Cool. I never got into the cosplay aspect. But, I am heavily into anime in general.
:)

261 cliffster  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:12:28pm

re: #224 Charles

Apparently I've reached the coveted right wing plateau of being equated with both Al Gore and Osama bin Laden -- Robert Stacy McCain's latest post says, "Charles Johnson, Al Gore and Osama bin Laden Agree on Climate Change!"

I disagree, you are worse than that. You are evil like Harry Potter.

262 Kragar  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:13:02pm

re: #238 MandyManners

How old is he?

Mid 40s. I get to scan 400 servers, one at a time, so he can mark them off a check list as his team fixes them, because he couldn't read a fucking spreadsheet for the last 2 weeks.

263 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:13:16pm

re: #260 Varek Raith

To really be into it, I think you have to be female :p

Anime is my secret vice, thats the other thing I do to stay awake at work.


(well not so secret now :P)

264 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:13:39pm

re: #262 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Mid 40s. I get to scan 400 servers, one at a time, so he can mark them off a check list as his team fixes them, because he couldn't read a fucking spreadsheet for the last 2 weeks.

Oh my, sorry to hear that.

265 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:13:48pm

re: #263 windsagio

To really be into it, I think you have to be female :p

Anime is my secret vice, thats the other thing I do to stay awake at work.


(well not so secret now :P)

There are plenty of male cosplayers!

266 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:14:31pm

Off to get some work done!

267 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:14:47pm

re: #228 marjoriemoon

Anyone watching Caprica?

I told Mr. Moon, "Are you recording 'Cap-reek-a'?" He said, "Paprika? It's not a spice!"

So now we call it Paprika.

Nope, Kitchen Nightmares in the background. Ramsey gets to say all of the things I say in my head at work but can't. Talk about living vicariously...

268 Digital Display  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:14:57pm

re: #266 WindUpBird

Off to get some work done!

Be well

269 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:15:45pm

re: #265 WindUpBird

There are plenty of male cosplayers!

I'm not up to this. Just wearing a hardhat and toolbelt at a Habitat site makes me feel like one of the Village People.

270 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:16:05pm

re: #265 WindUpBird

sure, but the great majority is female.

Pff, he runs off >>

271 tradewind  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:16:43pm

re: #253 TampaKnight
He's Dead, Jim.

272 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:17:09pm

re: #270 windsagio

sure, but the great majority is female.

I'm sorry, you're going to have to remind me why that would be an impediment again...

//

273 TampaKnight  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:17:49pm

Now this is cool! Scale of the universe....in flash.

[Link: www.newgrounds.com...]

274 What, me worry?  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:18:10pm

re: #256 WindUpBird

I know a looot of people like your neice, though they're in their 30's. The scene you're referring to is called "cosplay".

Oh yes, you're the artistic person! I was reading over that thread the other night. Neat stuff!

There's an artistic streak that runs through my mother's family. Painters and sculptors, mostly. My aunt was very Matise-like. Bright colors, a bit distorted. Mom and cousins painted. All the artwork in my aunt's home was from the family! I did a lot of beadwork, jewelry, clothing. Stitching, crocheting. Always wanted to paint. I started to, but didn't get far!

275 Donna Ballard  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:19:10pm

Hey Lizards, were home and RWC's gonna want to log in so I'm gonna log out. Have a great evening, a great weekend, have fun and Keep Laughing!

276 cliffster  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:20:11pm

re: #275 Dragon_Lady

Hey Lizards, were home and RWC's gonna want to log in so I'm gonna log out. Have a great evening, a great weekend, have fun and Keep Laughing!

Have a great weekend dragon. Here's an idea.. TWO computers. Think about it..

277 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:20:32pm

re: #275 Dragon_Lady

Hey Lizards, were home and RWC's gonna want to log in so I'm gonna log out. Have a great evening, a great weekend, have fun and Keep Laughing!

You're not doing some Bates Motel thing, are you?

278 tradewind  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:20:48pm

re: #254 brookly red
There's no way that someone with such an outsized ego, who had such a penchant for the theatrical in his pre-911 videos, would restrain himself to tacky little audio casettes. And if you notice, State always comments this way : ' There is no reason for us to douby the authenticity of the tape'.
Which says nothing.
There's no upside to admitting we know he's dead. We probably don't have any way to show proof, or any DNA, and besides.... why provide yet another excuse for all hell to break loose?

279 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:21:04pm

re: #273 TampaKnight

Now this is cool! Scale of the universe...in flash.

[Link: www.newgrounds.com...]

Neat.
This is pretty cool, too.

280 Digital Display  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:22:17pm

re: #275 Dragon_Lady

Hey Lizards, were home and RWC's gonna want to log in so I'm gonna log out. Have a great evening, a great weekend, have fun and Keep Laughing!

As always a joy to speak to you...Be well and take care of RWC..
Good evening

281 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:23:13pm

re: #262 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Mid 40s. I get to scan 400 servers, one at a time, so he can mark them off a check list as his team fixes them, because he couldn't read a fucking spreadsheet for the last 2 weeks.

(((Kragar)))

If you don't mind my asking, how old are you?

282 What, me worry?  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:24:43pm

re: #263 windsagio

To really be into it, I think you have to be female :p

Anime is my secret vice, thats the other thing I do to stay awake at work.

(well not so secret now :P)

hehe Well she has Apergers syndrome. It's like ADHD. She's never had a lot of friends, really no friends until her last year in high school. She's very intense. There are some guys in her group, but mostly girls yea. She's a neat kid and I'm glad she's able to channel that energy.

283 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:25:12pm

fess up Kragar

284 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:26:03pm

let's hear it Kafir

285 cliffster  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:26:31pm

Having little kids is awesome. No matter how much of a jackass you are, they think you kick ass.

286 Kragar  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:26:54pm

re: #281 MandyManners

(((Kragar)))

If you don't mind my asking, how old are you?

36

287 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:27:27pm

re: #282 marjoriemoon

ooh Asperger is tough. Its cool she's found an outlet indeed :D

288 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:28:46pm

Kragar is one of those extra galactic oids that's just passing through our star chain on his way to some million light year festival where they are neutralizing pods of resistance on the fringes of some wy beyond solar system...in other words just a tourist

289 Racer X  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:29:27pm

Guyanese Duck Hunter

A Guyanese went hunting one day in Ontario and bagged three ducks. He put them in the bed of his pickup truck and was about to drive home when he was confronted by an ornery game warden who didn't like Guyanese.

The game warden ordered the Guyanese to show his hunting license, and the Guyanese pulled out a valid Ontario hunting license.

The game warden looked at the license, then reached over and picked up one of the ducks, sniffed its butt, and said, "This duck ain't from Ontario. This is a Quebec duck. You got a Quebec huntin' license, boy?" The Guyanese reached into his wallet and produced a Quebec hunting license.

The game warden looked at it, then reached over and grabbed the second duck, sniffed its butt, and said "This ain't no Quebec duck. This duck's from Manitoba. You got a Manitoba license?" The Guyanese reached into wallet and produced a Manitoba hunting license.

The warden then reached over and picked up the third duck, sniffed its butt, and said, "This ain't no Manitoba duck. This here duck's from Nova Scotia. You got a Nova Scotia huntin' license?" Again the Guyanese reached into his wallet and brought out a Nova Scotia hunting license.

The game warden was extremely frustrated at this point, and he yelled at the Guyenese "Just where the hell are you from???!!!"

The Guyanese turned around, dropped his pants, bent over, and said, "You tell me, you're the expert."

290 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:31:15pm

Ahhhh
Happy Friday. Got LGF, got my beer...
And nailed a new video gig. 2 takes. Editing tomorrow.

291 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:31:45pm

re: #290 Rightwingconspirator

Ahhh
Happy Friday. Got LGF, got my beer...
And nailed a new video gig. 2 takes. Editing tomorrow.

pretty good night, all told...

292 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:34:14pm

re: #290 Rightwingconspirator

Ahhh
Happy Friday. Got LGF, got my beer...
And nailed a new video gig. 2 takes. Editing tomorrow.

Video gig?

293 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:36:13pm

re: #292 Varek Raith

I do videos for the jewelry biz. Usually product demonstrations like casting platinum. Today I shot and narrated video for gold testing equipment for jewelers to test scrap gold and buy from the public.

Next is a much longer video on how to buy gold top to bottom.

294 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:37:12pm

it's Delbert time...


295 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:37:41pm

re: #293 Rightwingconspirator

I do videos for the jewelry biz. Usually product demonstrations like casting platinum. Today I shot and narrated video for gold testing equipment for jewelers to test scrap gold and buy from the public.

Next is a much longer video on how to buy gold top to bottom.

Do you get to go to VicenzaOro?

296 Kragar  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:38:00pm

Next time I get stuck here, I got to make sure I bring some Warhammer stuff in.

297 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:38:49pm

re: #277 Decatur Deb

You're not doing some Bates Motel thing, are you?

ha!

298 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:39:27pm

re: #297 Stanley Sea

Never see them together.

299 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:40:38pm

re: #295 Decatur Deb

No! Darn it. International rules about selling raw gold hurt my prospects. So I do not get to go. But I do go to JCK Vegas, (3 billion $$ under one roof!), and usually the Tucson gem show, but not in this economy. Us jewelry workers are hurting. No $$ for hardly anything marketing wise. By workers I mean makers and technicians, not retailers.

300 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:41:13pm

re: #299 Rightwingconspirator

No! Darn it. International rules about selling raw gold hurt my prospects. So I do not get to go. But I do go to JCK Vegas, (3 billion $$ under one roof!), and usually the Tucson gem show, but not in this economy. Us jewelry workers are hurting. No $$ for hardly anything marketing wise. By workers I mean makers and technicians, not retailers.

GOLD!
:)

301 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:42:39pm

re: #294 albusteve

it's Delbert time...

[Video]

How about some Tony Joe White?

302 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:42:56pm

re: #300 Varek Raith

Yes.
Gold is for wearing. Beautify your lover!

303 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:43:12pm

re: #299 Rightwingconspirator

A big chunk of the Vicenza show is about small highly-automated producers. It's twice a year, I think.

304 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:43:41pm

re: #299 Rightwingconspirator

You gotta learn to make gold foil hats...it's like tinfoil, with the investment as an upside//

305 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:44:14pm

re: #300 Varek Raith

GOLD!
:)


so what are my Krugerrands worth?...1973, 1 oz, 22 carat

306 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:44:33pm

re: #304 Aceofwhat?

You gotta learn to make gold foil hats...it's like tinfoil, with the investment as an upside//

Should be a hit w/ the RP crowd.

307 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:44:45pm

re: #301 Mad Al-Jaffee

How about some Tony Joe White?


[Video]

oh yeah...swamp music

308 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:45:12pm

re: #303 Decatur Deb

Sounds like you go. I would love to go. Someday maybe I'll be asked to speak on some technical topic like 950 palladium jewelry alloys or something.

309 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:45:18pm

re: #262 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Mid 40s. I get to scan 400 servers, one at a time, so he can mark them off a check list as his team fixes them, because he couldn't read a fucking spreadsheet for the last 2 weeks.

Is he willfully ignorant or lazy or management? All of the above?

310 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:46:59pm

re: #308 Rightwingconspirator

Nah. I was stationed there for 3 yrs. Sometimes I want to go back and live in a cardboard box under a bridge.

311 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:47:01pm

re: #300 Varek Raith

GOLD!
:)

Solid Gold!

312 cliffster  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:47:17pm

re: #294 albusteve

it's Delbert time...

albu, it's always delbert time.

313 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:47:24pm

re: #305 albusteve

Your Krugs are 1 tro ounce of pure, with a bit of copper for durability as a coin. Today? 2nd London-$1078

314 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:47:44pm

re: #296 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Next time I get stuck here, I got to make sure I bring some Warhammer stuff in.

Is this what you mean? I Googled for ya'.


315 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:47:45pm

re: #306 Decatur Deb

No way. Too cheap.

316 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:49:08pm

re: #314 MandyManners

Is this what you mean? I Googled for ya'.

[Video]

It's also a table top game.
:)

317 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:49:40pm

re: #306 Decatur Deb

Re thinking-Tinfoil for alien signals. Goldfoil hat to block the Dem supermajority signals.

318 Kragar  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:49:43pm

re: #309 MandyManners

Is he willfully ignorant or lazy or management? All of the above?

Management. He took it because he thought it would look good on his resume and he had the certs, but no real experience and is in way over his head.

319 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:49:53pm

more Tony Joe...wid mud flaps

320 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:50:51pm

re: #319 albusteve

More swampy music, Lazy Lester:

321 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:51:35pm

re: #313 Rightwingconspirator

Your Krugs are 1 tro ounce of pure, with a bit of copper for durability as a coin. Today? 2nd London-$1078

I have 80 of them...heh...buried treasure

322 cliffster  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:51:40pm

re: #294 albusteve

Wasn't that a Bugs Henderson original?

323 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:51:48pm

re: #317 Rightwingconspirator

snip Goldfoil hat to block the Dem supermajority signals.

I think that transmitter will be down for a while.

324 Kragar  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:52:04pm

re: #314 MandyManners

Is this what you mean? I Googled for ya'.

[Video]

Same game setting, but I meant the model wargamming aspect. I got some models I was planning on working on tonight sitting at home I could be painting while sitting here reading off data.

325 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:53:02pm

re: #321 albusteve

Keep that link. And never mention them again on a public site. :)

326 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:53:07pm

re: #321 albusteve

I have 80 of them...heh...buried treasure

doubloons!

327 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:53:16pm

re: #319 albusteve

I saw him a few years ago at a medium sized club. Just Tony Joe and a drummer. Great show.

328 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:53:24pm

re: #321 albusteve

I have 80 of them...heh...buried treasure

Hey, Steve, buddy, can I borrow a few???
/:)

329 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:54:07pm

re: #325 Rightwingconspirator

Keep that link. And never mention them again on a public site. :)

Or, in front of your relatives!

330 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:55:36pm

re: #322 cliffster

Wasn't that a Bugs Henderson original?

hell I don't know...here's my other favorite...Texas!

331 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:56:44pm

re: #328 Varek Raith

Hey, Steve, buddy, can I borrow a few???
/:)

they are down in Jamaica...I don't know what to do with them, or how to off them...there is cash down there, US dollars....it's my fallback

332 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:57:46pm

re: #327 Mad Al-Jaffee

I saw him a few years ago at a medium sized club. Just Tony Joe and a drummer. Great show.

very under rated guy...terrific performer, as you say...never have seen him

333 William of Orange  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:59:03pm

I guarantee you'll repeat this track after the first play! From the Netherlands, Caro Emerald. Very uplifting on a dull day.

Boy, did she hit it big time. This song was chosen by Martini Bianco as their new worldwide tune.

Another hit track from last year.

334 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:59:08pm

re: #325 Rightwingconspirator

Keep that link. And never mention them again on a public site. :)

heh...got it

335 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 6:59:36pm

re: #331 albusteve

Now suddenly holes are beginning to appear in the Jamaican landscape...

336 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:00:14pm

re: #332 albusteve

very under rated guy...terrific performer, as you say...never have seen him

He's probably known more for the songs he's written than as a performer. But he's a great singer and musician.

I noticed for the first time tonight that he plays harp upsidedown (high notes to the left.)

337 Racer X  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:00:20pm
Newseum

The Newseum displays these daily newspaper front pages in their original, unedited form. Some front pages may contain material that is objectionable to some visitors. Viewer discretion is advised.

Cool.

338 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:01:33pm

re: #336 Mad Al-Jaffee

He's probably known more for the songs he's written than as a performer. But he's a great singer and musician.

I noticed for the first time tonight that he plays harp upsidedown (high notes to the left.)

ha! didn't notice...good eye

339 cliffster  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:01:48pm

re: #330 albusteve

hell I don't know...here's my other favorite...Texas!

I've worn the ridges off some Delbert mp3's. Here's one a lot of people around here can relate to..

340 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:02:02pm

Some New Orleans Funk-(y Meters):

341 jaunte  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:02:48pm

re: #337 Racer X

Hey, new word from Amarillo:
[Link: www.newseum.org...]

342 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:03:00pm

re: #335 Rightwingconspirator

Now suddenly holes are beginning to appear in the Jamaican landscape...

the only holes on my property were for banana and orange trees...and I know each one by heart...I had the noids back then I guess

343 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:04:54pm

re: #337 Racer X

I once had a temp job with the organization that owns the Newseum. They had an amazing library.

344 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:05:27pm

re: #337 Racer X

Cool.

I love to browse the different front pages!

345 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:05:37pm

re: #339 cliffster

I've worn the ridges off some Delbert mp3's. Here's one a lot of people around here can relate to..


[Video]

Delbert's an old club head...really fun to see in some saloon or dance hall....pretty much my whole gig for the last 20 years

346 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:06:43pm

re: #333 William of Orange

loved it

347 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:06:44pm

re: #345 albusteve

Delbert's an old club head...really fun to see in some saloon or dance hall...pretty much my whole gig for the last 20 years

I still have never seen him live and I don't have any of his records. Guess I should get some and see him one of these days.

348 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:07:58pm

re: #342 albusteve

Makes sense to me to have a fallback.

349 cliffster  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:08:36pm

re: #347 Mad Al-Jaffee

I still have never seen him live and I don't have any of his records. Guess I should get some and see him one of these days.

Yes you should

350 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:08:37pm

Yo, knuckleheads...

351 cliffster  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:09:01pm

re: #350 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Yo, knuckleheads...

sup joker

352 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:09:09pm

re: #340 Mad Al-Jaffee

Some New Orleans Funk-(y Meters):


[Video]

love me some funk...big time...I'm a huge Nevilles fan...repost

353 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:10:03pm

re: #349 cliffster

Yes you should

Or get a gig playing on one of his blues cruises. :)

354 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:10:39pm

re: #224 Charles

Apparently I've reached the coveted right wing plateau of being equated with both Al Gore and Osama bin Laden -- Robert Stacy McCain's latest post says, "Charles Johnson, Al Gore and Osama bin Laden Agree on Climate Change!"

I'd ask if there was no depth to which RSM would stoop (seeing as how bad that line is) but I already know the answer. That man's willingness to be an asshole knows no bounds.

355 cliffster  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:11:07pm

re: #353 Mad Al-Jaffee

Or get a gig playing on one of his blues cruises. :)

Even better. Never been on his cruise. I love Delbert McClinton, but not go-on-a-cruise-with-him kinda love.

356 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:11:24pm

re: #348 Rightwingconspirator

Makes sense to me to have a fallback.

I'm single...no debt, nothing....I come and go as I please, I'm very satisfied and if I'm wiped out here I have that...and I'm well connected in Jamaica for the long haul if needed

357 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:11:42pm

re: #352 albusteve

love me some funk...big time...I'm a huge Nevilles fan...repost


[Video]

You'll probably like this, Walter "Wolfman" Washington:

358 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:13:01pm

re: #355 cliffster

Even better. Never been on his cruise. I love Delbert McClinton, but not go-on-a-cruise-with-him kinda love.

I think Taj Mahal has a cruise, and you can also go deep sea fishing with him. That would be fun.

359 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:14:16pm

re: #356 albusteve

I'm single...no debt, nothing...I come and go as I please, I'm very satisfied and if I'm wiped out here I have that...and I'm well connected in Jamaica for the long haul if needed

Good for you man. Someday I'm going there. Anyway BBL its dinnertime.

360 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:14:55pm

re: #358 Mad Al-Jaffee

I think Taj Mahal has a cruise, and you can also go deep sea fishing with him. That would be fun.

Taj is the Man!...I'd kill to meet him

361 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:15:13pm

re: #356 albusteve

"well connected in Jamaica" sounds kinda shady. :)

362 cliffster  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:15:51pm

re: #360 albusteve

Taj is the Man!...I'd kill to meet him

Loved his cover of Little Feat's Feets Don't Fail Me Now

363 cliffster  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:16:22pm

re: #361 Mad Al-Jaffee

"well connected in Jamaica" sounds kinda shady. :)

don't fuck with steve

364 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:16:56pm

re: #356 albusteve

I'm single...no debt, nothing...I come and go as I please, I'm very satisfied and if I'm wiped out here I have that...and I'm well connected in Jamaica for the long haul if needed

I just tried to post Jimmy Buffett's Jamaica Mistaica for you. Thank God I opened the file instead of just lifting the url. Now I'll go run the hard drive on "pots and pans".

365 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:17:14pm

re: #361 Mad Al-Jaffee

"well connected in Jamaica" sounds kinda shady. :)

most of it was...felonious even, what can i say?....I made alot of money at one point in my life...what I have down there is all that's left of it...plenty tho for island living

366 Aye Pod  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:17:35pm

Evening folks

367 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:17:36pm

Kim Wilson (T-Birds, one of the best living blues harp players) did a show last night, about fifteen minutes from my home last night. I Missed it. Maybe next time. I've jammed with the piano player and one of the guitarists a few times:

368 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:18:03pm

re: #362 cliffster

Loved his cover of Little Feat's Feets Don't Fail Me Now

from the Lowell George Tribute...very nice

369 cliffster  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:18:48pm

re: #367 Mad Al-Jaffee

What does Al-Jaffee play? Any band I would have heard of?

And why is he so mad?

370 Digital Display  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:19:10pm

re: #366 Jimmah

Evening folks


[Video]

What's Kicking chicken?
:)

371 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:19:22pm

re: #363 cliffster

don't fuck with steve

it's not like that...but I have enough stories for a book...other than that I'm just an irregular guy

372 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:20:26pm

re: #369 cliffster

What does Al-Jaffee play? Any band I would have heard of?

And why is he so mad?

Harmonica, mostly blues and roots.

Shameless self-promotion time:

The handle comes from Mad Magazine's Al Jaffee.

373 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:21:13pm

re: #369 cliffster

What does Al-Jaffee play? Any band I would have heard of?

And why is he so mad?

plays a bad ass harp...he got mojo...you have no clue who you're hangin here with

374 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:22:36pm

re: #372 Mad Al-Jaffee

My favorite Al Jaffee stuff was his "snappy answers to stupid questions".

Used to laugh my ass off at them.

375 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:23:47pm

re: #374 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My favorite Al Jaffee stuff was his "snappy answers to stupid questions".

Used to laugh my ass off at them.

I love those. But he never wrote any "ass kickings to snappy answers," which I'm sure would occur a lot if you used lots of the snappy answers.

376 Aye Pod  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:25:33pm

re: #370 HoosierHoops

What's Kicking chicken?
:)

Just talking to iceweasel, chilling here for a bit. Hows it going yourself, Hoops - when is your move east?

377 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:25:55pm

re: #375 Mad Al-Jaffee

I love those. But he never wrote any "ass kickings to snappy answers," which I'm sure would occur a lot if you used lots of the snappy answers.

Mad Magazine was a staple in my youth...and at 57 I still don't give a fuck....darn them!

378 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:25:56pm

re: #373 albusteve

You're too kind! Thanks!

379 cliffster  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:26:25pm

re: #372 Mad Al-Jaffee

Sweet! Listening. I started playing the harp years back. Got pretty good. Then I met my current wife. Her dog would howl insanely when I played. End of my harmonica career. You can't play harp unless you're free to sit on the couch in your own house, one leg over the arm, and dick around.

380 Mr. Crankypants  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:26:39pm

evening all..

381 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:26:54pm

re: #375 Mad Al-Jaffee

I love those. But he never wrote any "ass kickings to snappy answers," which I'm sure would occur a lot if you used lots of the snappy answers.

Actually, in one of his books he had comebacks for snappy answers to stupid questions. Seriously. I remember on in particular...

Man comes into barber shop, obviously a barber is cutting someone's hair, man asks, "Hey. Do you cut hair here?"

Barber says, "No. I don't cut it. I bend it back and forth until it breaks off."

Man (punching the barber repeatedly in the face) says, "Funny, I do the same thing with noses." (On the back of his jacket is 'US Olympic Boxing Team')

382 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:27:22pm

re: #374 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My favorite Al Jaffee stuff was his "snappy answers to stupid questions".

Used to laugh my ass off at them.

:D I used to own a few of those snappy answer books. I filled 'em in too, I should try to find them someday.

383 Digital Display  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:27:33pm

re: #376 Jimmah

Just talking to iceweasel, chilling here for a bit. Hows it going yourself, Hoops - when is your move east?

What up? Tell Ice I said hello..My move is in Oct.

384 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:27:49pm

Ok, this is pretty damn awesome.

Can you stump Akinator, the Web Genius?

Think of a person, real or fictional, and answer the questions to the best of your knowledge. It's took me several tries to think of a character that stumped the Akinator.

385 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:28:03pm

re: #378 Mad Al-Jaffee

You're too kind! Thanks!

once you get a taste for the inside, you can't go back...I see alot of gigs, but I'm happiest backstage when those opportunities come up...music and musicians are just too cool

386 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:29:05pm

re: #383 HoosierHoops

What up? Tell Ice I said hello..My move is in Oct.

are you practicing using chop sticks?

387 cliffster  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:29:37pm

re: #372 Mad Al-Jaffee

Shit, dude, that's bad ass. Your (-) ding is forever erased from my LGF screen. Thanks for posting. If you ever play in Austin, let me know.. I'll come heckle you (but then leave a big tip in the jar).

388 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:30:15pm

re: #380 PT Barnum

evening all..

Glad to see you back. I had kind of a mixed day. Sales were very good but I got a bad customer service survey that cost me a lot in my rankings. I'm not in last place, but I've got to make a maximum effort this weekend to get my ranking back up.

389 Mr. Crankypants  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:31:16pm

re: #388 Dark_Falcon

What do you sell?

390 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:31:17pm

re: #388 Dark_Falcon

Glad to see you back. I had kind of a mixed day. Sales were very good but I got a bad customer service survey that cost me a lot in my rankings. I'm not in last place, but I've got to make a maximum effort this weekend to get my ranking back up.

off to the ReEd camps for you...and work on that smile

391 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:31:36pm

re: #389 PT Barnum

What do you sell?

dreams...it's what they all sell

392 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:32:03pm

re: #388 Dark_Falcon

friggin customers...

393 Digital Display  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:32:09pm

re: #386 albusteve

are you practicing using chop sticks?

I'm an expert!

394 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:32:14pm

re: #379 cliffster

Sweet! Listening. I started playing the harp years back. Got pretty good. Then I met my current wife. Her dog would howl insanely when I played. End of my harmonica career. You can't play harp unless you're free to sit on the couch in your own house, one leg over the arm, and dick around.

I pretty much had to practice/learn in my room with the door shut in high school. If I played it anywhere near my brother her would threaten to put the harp somewhere I definitely didn't want it. But he learned to appreciate it and has been very supportive. He filmed the video I posted.

395 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:32:25pm

re: #389 PT Barnum

What do you sell?

Mobile phones.

396 Mr. Crankypants  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:33:26pm

re: #395 Dark_Falcon

Ah.....I sold electronics for a few years (Radio Hovel and Gateway)...glad I don't do that anymore...customers suck ass...at least a lot of em do.

397 prairiefire  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:33:31pm

When I saw Delbert it was at a blues club. Great show. He had a gorgeous blonde gal backing him up on the keyboard.

398 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:34:01pm

re: #392 Aceofwhat?

friggin customers...

Actually, i don't even know if it was the customer or one of us. The transaction type is one that I did not run the day the customer came in, so it might not even be me that goofed. I won't know more till Monday, but if it was really bad I'd know already.

399 Mr. Crankypants  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:34:01pm

re: #397 prairiefire

When I saw Delbert it was at a blues club. Great show. He had a gorgeous blonde gal backing him up on the keyboard.

Is that what you kids call it these days..

400 cliffster  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:34:15pm

re: #388 Dark_Falcon

Hey DF, happy Friday to you. Customers are jackasses.

401 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:34:46pm

re: #381 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I don't remember that one, but it's hilarious. I had a HUGE stack of Mad magazines when I was a kid. Didn't get half the humor in them, but still loved it.

My father told me he had most of the original Mad comic books, but of course, they were thrown out when he left for college.

402 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:34:47pm

re: #397 prairiefire

When I saw Delbert it was at a blues club. Great show. He had a gorgeous blonde gal backing him up on the keyboard.

If I was Delbert, I'd have a gorgeous blond gal backing me up.

403 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:34:50pm

re: #393 HoosierHoops

I'm an expert!

I should have known...probably some say shwan noodle head eh?

404 Mr. Crankypants  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:35:06pm

re: #400 cliffster

Worst thing that ever happened to me with a customer was when I told him he had a scsi (scuzzy) drive and he complained to my manager..

405 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:35:09pm

re: #367 Mad Al-Jaffee

Kim Wilson (T-Birds, one of the best living blues harp players) did a show last night, about fifteen minutes from my home last night. I Missed it. Maybe next time. I've jammed with the piano player and one of the guitarists a few times:


[Video]

I wish "How Do You Spell Love" would get reposted on YouTube. It was on for about a day back in '07, I think.

406 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:35:50pm

re: #401 Mad Al-Jaffee

Sometimes it was funny because you knew that people (who were far cooler than you would ever dream to be) thought they were funny.

Am I right?

407 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:35:51pm

re: #396 PT Barnum

Ah...I sold electronics for a few years (Radio Hovel and Gateway)...glad I don't do that anymore...customers suck ass...at least a lot of em do.

I get both kinds at work. The bad news is that I work at a store that does phone repairs so most of the people who work there get a bad shop during the month. Provided you don't get too many (and I have two good ones also this month) it's not too bad.

408 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:36:09pm

re: #398 Dark_Falcon

that, and wouldn't you remember if there was a particularly crappy interaction? or do you just get cheap shots sometimes?

409 Mr. Crankypants  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:36:25pm

re: #401 Mad Al-Jaffee

I don't remember that one, but it's hilarious. I had a HUGE stack of Mad magazines when I was a kid. Didn't get half the humor in them, but still loved it.

My father told me he had most of the original Mad comic books, but of course, they were thrown out when he left for college.

I love the really old ones..much more subversive...superduper man, batboy and rubin, whatever the wonder woman parady was...

The current stuff is kinda milquetoast to me.

I really miss Don Martin though..he was the best...

410 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:36:29pm

re: #397 prairiefire

When I saw Delbert it was at a blues club. Great show. He had a gorgeous blonde gal backing him up on the keyboard.

clubs are where it's at...small, intimate, and most of all fans that did what you're doing

411 cliffster  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:36:29pm

re: #404 PT Barnum

Worst thing that ever happened to me with a customer was when I told him he had a scsi (scuzzy) drive and he complained to my manager..

Probably pissed him off when you told him his dip switches were screwed up

412 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:38:07pm

re: #387 cliffster

Shit, dude, that's bad ass. Your (-) ding is forever erased from my LGF screen. Thanks for posting. If you ever play in Austin, let me know.. I'll come heckle you (but then leave a big tip in the jar).

I would love to play in Austin someday. The band is working on getting some of the big festival gigs. The problem is you don't get those gigs unless you have a great agent, and you can't get a great agent unless you're getting those great gigs. Kind of a Catch 22. But we're on XM and we get airplay on blues shows here and abroad.

413 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:38:33pm

re: #410 albusteve

I don't see enough small club music, and there is a great live music small club less than two miles from here....

Delbert played here a couple of times...

414 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:39:09pm

re: #412 Mad Al-Jaffee

I would love to play in Austin someday. The band is working on getting some of the big festival gigs. The problem is you don't get those gigs unless you have a great agent, and you can't get a great agent unless you're getting those great gigs. Kind of a Catch 22. But we're on XM and we get airplay on blues shows here and abroad.

hang in there...never give up, it only takes one gig, one guy

415 Mr. Crankypants  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:39:25pm

re: #411 cliffster

Had one customer call to get some help figuring out why her satellite dish wasn't getting a signal (this was back when they were HUGE). Spent an hour with her on the phone going through fundamental tests. And had to let her go after a bit.

She called back the next day to my District Manager wanting me fired because she had spent 65 for a tv repairman to come and tell her that the reason it wasn't working was because she didn't have a cable between the receiver and the TV.

416 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:39:56pm
417 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:40:37pm

re: #415 PT Barnum

Reminds me of the old tech support story, "Sir, please package it up and send it back for a full refund. You are obviously to stupid to own one."

418 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:40:46pm

re: #406 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Sometimes it was funny because you knew that people (who were far cooler than you would ever dream to be) thought they were funny.

Am I right?

No, it was more like not knowing what some of the more adult-oriented humor meant, and not seeing half of the movies and tv shows they parodied. But there was always stuff I got, like Spy Vs. Spy, Don Martin cartoons, etc.

419 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:40:49pm

re: #408 Aceofwhat?

that, and wouldn't you remember if there was a particularly crappy interaction? or do you just get cheap shots sometimes?

The thing is that with repairs I'm not the only person helping the customer, so it might not be me they're mad at. We also got a bad shop from a customer because we hadn't mopped the floor, so yes some of the shops are chickenshit.

420 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:41:00pm

re: #413 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I don't see enough small club music, and there is a great live music small club less than two miles from here...

Delbert played here a couple of times...

you ever been to Sweet Carolines in Winchester?...great place

421 prairiefire  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:41:27pm

My town has always had great live music, going back to the gangster days. This club is good:[Link: www.knuckleheadskc.com...]

422 prairiefire  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:41:43pm

re: #416 MandyManners

Fantastic!!!!

423 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:41:55pm

re: #419 Dark_Falcon

sheesh

424 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:42:05pm

re: #414 albusteve

hang in there...never give up, it only takes one gig, one guy

Oh, believe me, we're not. I was told a couple of years ago to make sure I had an up to date passport because we WILL be going to Europe one of these days. I think mine expires next year.

425 cliffster  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:42:17pm

re: #415 PT Barnum

gotta start with the basics, dude. is it plugged in?

426 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:43:00pm

re: #421 prairiefire

My town has always had great live music, going back to the gangster days. This club is good:[Link: www.knuckleheadskc.com...]

KC is a great town...need to get back there to know it better...I will one of these days

427 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:43:01pm

re: #384 Slumbering Behemoth

Ok, this is pretty damn awesome.

Can you stump Akinator, the Web Genius?

Think of a person, real or fictional, and answer the questions to the best of your knowledge. It's took me several tries to think of a character that stumped the Akinator.

That is an amazing gadget! It guessed wrong two times on my character, but it guessed the correct novel. I thought of Feyd-Rautha from Dune, and it guessed two other Dune characters instead.

428 Mr. Crankypants  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:43:09pm

re: #425 cliffster

Yeah..learned that the hard way....One of the things I check first now...

429 Mr. Crankypants  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:43:37pm

re: #427 The Sanity Inspector

There's a toy called 20 questions that does the same thing...

430 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:43:42pm

re: #424 Mad Al-Jaffee

Oh, believe me, we're not. I was told a couple of years ago to make sure I had an up to date passport because we WILL be going to Europe one of these days. I think mine expires next year.

that's what they told Hendrix

431 Digital Display  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:45:00pm

re: #403 albusteve

I should have known...probably some say shwan noodle head eh?

I learned chop sticks as a kid..It's so easy and people just don't get it..It's so easy.. The 2 sticks are not flexiable..No.. One stick is always the solid point..Thou shalt never move..The other stick is moveable and pins the food against the other stick...To practice..Put a dime on a table.. One stick solid against one edge of the dime and other stick that clasps it to the other side...then lift the dime...You do that a few times and there is no food in the world you can't eat with chopsticks. One Stick solid and the other like using a pen in school...

432 Mr. Crankypants  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:45:13pm

re: #429 PT Barnum

I'm off to bed...have a big day tomorrow...got paid today and the ever lovin want's to go out of town... Oh Boy...uh bouy....bleah....I don't wanna go anywhere!

433 prairiefire  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:46:05pm

The downtown area has finally had a Renaissance. There's the Sprint center and KC Power and light district. Lots of good restaurants. My hubby and I took full advantage of the nightlife. We're cool with being suburbanites w/ kids now.

434 Aye Pod  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:46:18pm

re: #383 HoosierHoops

What up? Tell Ice I said hello..My move is in Oct.

Ice says 'Hi' back :) Hope everything goes well for you in the preparation for your big move, Hoops.

435 cliffster  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:46:57pm

re: #432 PT Barnum

I'm off to bed...have a big day tomorrow...got paid today and the ever lovin want's to go out of town... Oh Boy...uh bouy...bleah...I don't wanna go anywhere!

Just got paid today

436 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:49:03pm

re: #435 cliffster

Just got paid today


[Video]

some smash mouth Texas rock and roll there!

437 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:50:36pm

re: #436 albusteve

some smash mouth Texas rock and roll there!

From two guys with beards, and a guy without a beard named Beard.

438 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:51:04pm

re: #384 Slumbering Behemoth

Ok, this is pretty damn awesome.

Can you stump Akinator, the Web Genius?

Think of a person, real or fictional, and answer the questions to the best of your knowledge. It's took me several tries to think of a character that stumped the Akinator.

Damn, now I'm hooked! I stumped it on Shannon Tweed, but it got Jimmy Page.

439 cliffster  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:51:32pm

re: #436 albusteve

some smash mouth Texas rock and roll there!

Three dudes, a lot of facial hair, and an assload of fuck yeah

440 Digital Display  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:51:37pm

re: #434 Jimmah

Ice says 'Hi' back :) Hope everything goes well for you in the preparation for your big move, Hoops.


[Video]

Thanks! I'm excited..I'm going to learn Chinese

441 William of Orange  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:52:42pm

Had to laugh at this!
Obama presents the iPad!

442 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:53:20pm

re: #434 Jimmah

Nice but I prefer this tropical island video:

443 Racer X  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:53:33pm

A man goes out golfing.

He is on the second hole when he notices a frog sitting next to
the green. He thinks nothing of it and is about to shoot when he hears, "Ribbit 9 Iron." The man looks around and doesn't see anyone. Again, he hears, "Ribbit 9 Iron." He looks at the frog and decides to prove the frog wrong, puts the club away, and grabs a 9 iron.

Boom!

He hits it 10 inches from the cup. He is shocked. He says to the frog, "Wow that's amazing. You must be a lucky frog!" The frog replies, "Ribbit Lucky frog." The man decides to take the frog with him to the next hole. "What do you think frog?" the man asks. "Ribbit 3 wood." The guy takes out a 3 wood and Boom! Hole in one.

The man is befuddled and doesn't know what to say. By the end of the day, the man golfed the best game of golf in his life and asks the frog, "OK where to next?" The frog replies, "Ribbit Las Vegas ."


They go to Las Vegas and the guy says, "OK frog, now what?" The frog says, "Ribbit Roulette." Upon approaching the roulette table, The man asks, "What do you think I should bet?" The frog replies, "Ribbit $3000, black 6." Now, this is a 38-to-one shot to win, but after the golf game the man figures what the heck.

Boom! Tons of cash comes sliding back across the table.

The man takes his winnings and buys the best room in the hotel. He sits the frog down and says, "Frog, I don't know how to repay you. You've won me all this money and I am forever grateful." The frog replies, "Ribbit Kiss Me." He figures why not, since after all the frog did for him, he deserves it. With a kiss, the frog turns into a gorgeous girl.


"And that is how the girl ended up in my room, Elin. So help me God or my name is not Tiger Woods."

444 cliffster  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:53:48pm

cliffster's swear-o-meter is redlining tonight. Sorry, guys, I've been taking care of kids for a few hours. Need an outlet

445 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:54:36pm

re: #427 The Sanity Inspector

Ooh, good job. That one is somewhat obscure. I've only able to stump it with two video game characters so far: Richard Grey a.k.a. The Master (Fallout), and Groove Champion (Interstate '76).

446 albusteve  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:56:47pm

raging thread...
I'm out like Sonny Liston

447 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:57:27pm

re: #446 albusteve

fat kid at dodgeball...

448 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:58:17pm

re: #418 Mad Al-Jaffee

No, it was more like not knowing what some of the more adult-oriented humor meant, and not seeing half of the movies and tv shows they parodied. But there was always stuff I got, like Spy Vs. Spy, Don Martin cartoons, etc.

All I needed to know about the recently concluded Sixties I learned from old copies of MAD magazine.

449 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 7:59:09pm

re: #444 cliffster

cliffster's swear-o-meter is redlining tonight. Sorry, guys, I've been taking care of kids for a few hours. Need an outlet

Better us than the kiddiwinks!

450 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:00:25pm

re: #444 cliffster

cliffster's swear-o-meter is redlining tonight. Sorry, guys, I've been taking care of kids for a few hours. Need an outlet

Go ahead and swear at me if you like. If you can manage to do it while sounding like a Japanese girl, I may even pay you for it.
/

451 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:00:43pm

re: #448 The Sanity Inspector

All I needed to know about the recently concluded Sixties I learned from old copies of MAD magazine.

There have been a couple of writers who realized that Mad was actually a mirror for a decent morality. The nuns were cool with it.

[Link: www.hccentral.com...]

452 Aye Pod  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:00:55pm

re: #436 albusteve

some smash mouth Texas rock and roll there!

Some more real rock 'n' roll for ya steve, if you can handle it (warning: lyrics may disturb, NSFW etc)

453 Kragar  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:02:38pm

re: #450 Slumbering Behemoth

Go ahead and swear at me if you like. If you can manage to do it while sounding like a Japanese girl, I may even pay you for it.
/

bakuroshite yaru, baka gaijin.

454 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:03:13pm

Yo, Killgore!
I asked Charles to forward an email from my friend in Bandon to you.
Now, PLEASE do not forget that the "best" time to sell a house, is the end of the school year. Folks with kids, want to move over the summer.
That being said, I hope you "hook up" with my friend in Bandon.
Your both nice, decent, people, as far as I can tell.
*smoochies*

455 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:03:23pm

re: #443 Racer X

A man goes out golfing.

He is on the second hole when he notices a frog sitting next to
the green. He thinks nothing of it and is about to shoot when he hears, "Ribbit 9 Iron." The man looks around and doesn't see anyone. Again, he hears, "Ribbit 9 Iron." He looks at the frog and decides to prove the frog wrong, puts the club away, and grabs a 9 iron.

Boom!

He hits it 10 inches from the cup. He is shocked. He says to the frog, "Wow that's amazing. You must be a lucky frog!" The frog replies, "Ribbit Lucky frog." The man decides to take the frog with him to the next hole. "What do you think frog?" the man asks. "Ribbit 3 wood." The guy takes out a 3 wood and Boom! Hole in one.

The man is befuddled and doesn't know what to say. By the end of the day, the man golfed the best game of golf in his life and asks the frog, "OK where to next?" The frog replies, "Ribbit Las Vegas ."

They go to Las Vegas and the guy says, "OK frog, now what?" The frog says, "Ribbit Roulette." Upon approaching the roulette table, The man asks, "What do you think I should bet?" The frog replies, "Ribbit $3000, black 6." Now, this is a 38-to-one shot to win, but after the golf game the man figures what the heck.

Boom! Tons of cash comes sliding back across the table.

The man takes his winnings and buys the best room in the hotel. He sits the frog down and says, "Frog, I don't know how to repay you. You've won me all this money and I am forever grateful." The frog replies, "Ribbit Kiss Me." He figures why not, since after all the frog did for him, he deserves it. With a kiss, the frog turns into a gorgeous girl.

"And that is how the girl ended up in my room, Elin. So help me God or my name is not Tiger Woods."

Oh, that's evil. I love it!

456 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:04:39pm

re: #448 The Sanity Inspector

All I needed to know about the recently concluded Sixties I learned from old copies of MAD magazine.

There are probably dozens of great 70s and early 80s movies that I read the parodies of in MAD but didn't see the actual movies until years later. The Godfather and Serpico are two that stand out.

457 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:05:39pm

re: #456 Mad Al-Jaffee

Jaffee was good, but it was all Don Martin for me.

458 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:06:06pm

re: #450 Slumbering Behemoth

weird thing; I know how to swear in alot of languages, but I can't think of any serious expletives like we have in Japanese. I mean I know things you can't say, but thats different :P

*always wondered why that is

459 cliffster  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:06:39pm

geez, FNDT my ass. we need to have us an election, kick things up a notch

460 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:07:24pm

re: #454 Floral Giraffe

Yo, Killgore!
I asked Charles to forward an email from my friend in Bandon to you.
Now, PLEASE do not forget that the "best" time to sell a house, is the end of the school year. Folks with kids, want to move over the summer.
That being said, I hope you "hook up" with my friend in Bandon.
Your both nice, decent, people, as far as I can tell.
*smoochies*

Thanks. I'm still kinda shocked that I have all my finances in order much sooner than I thought. Let's just hope I can buy a place with a decent internet connection. I'd go into withdrawals if I had to give up LGF.

461 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:08:20pm

re: #457 Decatur Deb

Jaffee was good, but it was all Don Martin for me.

He was one of my favorites, with those weird rubbery limbed people. That might be why I like Peter Bagge's style so much now.

462 Silvergirl  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:10:07pm

re: #460 Killgore Trout

Thanks. I'm still kinda shocked that I have all my finances in order much sooner than I thought. Let's just hope I can buy a place with a decent internet connection. I'd go into withdrawals if I had to give up LGF.

Don't forget to invite us for a housewarming.

Or help packing/unpacking . . . all that.

I'm not too horribly far.

463 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:11:02pm

re: #461 Mad Al-Jaffee

There is a story that the Usual Gang of Idiots took trips together every year. Mad had ONE subscriber in apartheid South Africa. The year he failed to renew, they all dropped in on him.

464 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:11:44pm

re: #453 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

bakuroshite yaru, baka gaijin.

More college girl, less sumo wrestler. No money for you!

465 cliffster  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:12:48pm

re: #450 Slumbering Behemoth

Go ahead and swear at me if you like. If you can manage to do it while sounding like a Japanese girl, I may even pay you for it.
/

Japanese girls are hot. But then, that was your point, wasn't it?

466 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:13:02pm

re: #463 Decatur Deb

There is a story that the Usual Gang of Idiots took trips together every year. Mad had ONE subscriber in apartheid South Africa. The year he failed to renew, they all dropped in on him.

I love the Simpsons episode when they go to NYC because it's a classic episode and it was back when the show used to still be funny. One of my favorite scenes is when Bart visits the MAD office. I think it's the only time Alferd E. Neuman has spoken.

467 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:14:35pm

re: #460 Killgore Trout

I sent Charles an email that I asked him to forward to you.
My friend in Bandon, would be pleased to help you.
I made SURE that he would enjoy it, and being the generous person that he is, he said it'd be fun. So. you can look for the email.,
You also might think about taking a "vacation" from decisions, and planning the rest of your life. BEFORE the woodwork belches al of the soingers who want help.

Be well.
Have fun.
Feel free to ask for help.
From those who you KNOW are friends.

Cool beans, on your situation!

468 Silvergirl  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:14:46pm

re: #431 HoosierHoops

I learned chop sticks as a kid..It's so easy and people just don't get it..It's so easy.. The 2 sticks are not flexiable..No.. One stick is always the solid point..Thou shalt never move..The other stick is moveable and pins the food against the other stick...To practice..Put a dime on a table.. One stick solid against one edge of the dime and other stick that clasps it to the other side...then lift the dime...You do that a few times and there is no food in the world you can't eat with chopsticks. One Stick solid and the other like using a pen in school...

Careful with the chopsticks, you hear me?

*shudder*

469 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:15:54pm

re: #451 Decatur Deb

There have been a couple of writers who realized that Mad was actually a mirror for a decent morality. The nuns were cool with it.

[Link: www.hccentral.com...]

*guffaw* I used to own that book!

470 Kragar  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:16:15pm

re: #464 Slumbering Behemoth

More college girl, less sumo wrestler. No money for you!

Ever spend much time in Roppongi or Shinjuku?

471 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:17:46pm

re: #466 Mad Al-Jaffee

I love the Simpsons episode when they go to NYC because it's a classic episode and it was back when the show used to still be funny. One of my favorite scenes is when Bart visits the MAD office. I think it's the only time Alferd E. Neuman has spoken.

Mad was in dime comic book format when I started. I didn't have the first 25 cent issue, but one of the first--It had the Thomas Nast cartoon cover: "Mad exposes the Tweed Ring".

472 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:17:48pm

re: #457 Decatur Deb

Jaffee was good, but it was all Don Martin for me.

I thought the funniest artist was Paul Coker, Jr.

473 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:17:49pm

re: #462 Silvergirl

Thanks but my move is going to be pretty easy. I'm taking my inventory of cellos, tools and cats. Pretty much everything else is going in the dumpster.

474 Aye Pod  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:18:27pm

Sonic Youth - Youth Against Fascism

475 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:19:18pm

Good night all.
May your road be the one less travelled.
And may your hearts desire find you & be happy.
And all other good things that life has to offer, take you up on your lowball offer.
Sleep tight!

476 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:20:10pm

re: #431 HoosierHoops

I learned chop sticks as a kid..It's so easy and people just don't get it..It's so easy.. The 2 sticks are not flexiable..No.. One stick is always the solid point..Thou shalt never move..The other stick is moveable and pins the food against the other stick...To practice..Put a dime on a table.. One stick solid against one edge of the dime and other stick that clasps it to the other side...then lift the dime...You do that a few times and there is no food in the world you can't eat with chopsticks. One Stick solid and the other like using a pen in school...

Or you can cheat!

I learned chopsticks 12 years ago, because I got embarrassed always asking for a fork while I was in Asia.

477 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:20:58pm

Some dinosaur action for you...

478 Silvergirl  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:21:15pm

re: #473 Killgore Trout

Thanks but my move is going to be pretty easy. I'm taking my inventory of cellos, tools and cats. Pretty much everything else is going in the dumpster.

Keeping it simple.

Moving in three easy steps by Killgore Trout

1) music and tools into the van
2) pets into the carriers
3) remainder into the dumpster

479 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:22:12pm

re: #472 The Sanity Inspector

I thought the funniest artist was Paul Coker, Jr.

Either don't remember him, or he was after grew away from it. Note am minimizing use of " ".

480 cliffster  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:22:43pm

re: #475 Floral Giraffe

Good night all.
May your road be the one less travelled.
And may your hearts desire find you & be happy.
And all other good things that life has to offer, take you up on your lowball offer.
Sleep tight!

Good night FG.

May the road rise up to meet you
May the wind be always at your back
May the sun shine warm upon your face
The rain fall soft upon your fields
And until we meet again
May God hold you in the palm of his hand.

481 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:23:59pm

re: #473 Killgore Trout

Thanks but my move is going to be pretty easy. I'm taking my inventory of cellos, tools and cats. Pretty much everything else is going in the dumpster.

If they're not smelly and spider-webby, drop off your books and National Geographics at the public library. They don't need them, but they can sell them at their book fair, & plow the scarce $$$ back into the system that way.

482 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:24:21pm

Benjamin Netanyahyu at Auschwitz.


In a much-anticipated speech at Auschwitz-Birkenau marking International Holocaust Memorial Day Wednesday, Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu reasserted the right of the Jewish people to self-defense amid increasing concern over the Iranian threat and growing controversy abroad over the legitimacy of Israel and its military.

“From the cursed ground at Auschwitz, Birkenau and other camps rise the voices of our brothers and sisters, our people who choked to death and were burned and murdered,” said the prime minister, in English, wishing “decency, truth and hope ... for all mankind” before switching to Hebrew, “the language the Nazis sought to exterminate.”

“Remember what Amalek did to you,” cautioned Netanyahu, quoting a particularly ominous passage from Deuteronomy. “I have come here today from Jerusalem to tell you: We will never forget. We will not allow the Holocaust deniers or those who desecrate [Jewish] graves and signs to erase or distort [our] memory.”

The prime minister also warned that though the “Nazi Amalek” was almost entirely a ghost of the past, “a new Amalek is appearing and once again threatening to annihilate the Jews. We will not allow it ... We will never forget and always stand guard,” he said.

“Murderous hatred must be stopped in its tracks, stopped right from the beginning. All countries in the world must learn this lesson, just as we did after losing a third of our people in blood-soaked Europe. We learned that the only guarantee for the protection of our people is the State of Israel and its army, the IDF,” Netanyahu declared, warning that never again would the existence of Israel and the Jewish people be threatened.


SNIP

483 Olsonist  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:25:30pm

This was on TalkingPointsMemo. Too much fun:

484 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:25:34pm

re: #458 windsagio

re: #465 cliffster

It doesn't even have to be swearing, just a youngish Japanese gal speaking in a stern, angry tone. In Japanese, of course. It does something for me that German dominatrices don't./

re: #470 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

No, I'm not very well traveled.

485 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:25:43pm

re: #479 Decatur Deb

Either don't remember him, or he was after grew away from it. Note am minimizing use of " ".

This.

486 captdiggs  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:25:45pm

Awesome!

487 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:26:11pm

Lightning storm here. Gonna scram. 'Nite, all.

489 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:27:09pm

re: #485 The Sanity Inspector

This.

Yes!! "Going off in a Huff".

490 Olsonist  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:27:59pm

re: #488 Dark_Falcon

Perhaps you can explain.

491 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:28:13pm

"Bad Apple" as done in 6000+ frames of shadow art, a very impressive effort.


492 prairiefire  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:30:19pm

re: #484 Slumbering Behemoth

This website is for you:[Link: www.angrylittleasiangirl.com...]

493 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:30:54pm

re: #488 Dark_Falcon

Obama to Netanuahyu: "Unclench your fist."

/I wish I was kidding.

Netanyahu to BHO:

Shut the fuck up.

494 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:31:23pm

re: #490 Olsonist

Perhaps you can explain.

Obama may well criticize Netanyahyu for riling up Muslims by asserting Israel right to self defense. My line was a variation on the "Obama is a weakling" theme.

495 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:31:28pm

re: #483 Olsonist

Uhh..very interesting...err...political ad?

496 Olsonist  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:31:42pm

re: #493 MandyManners

Wow, you seem quite the patriot.

497 Aye Pod  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:31:51pm

re: #440 HoosierHoops

Thanks! I'm excited..I'm going to learn Chinese

Is that a requirement for your work over there? I don't envy you that task. But it would be a very cool thing to have under your belt.

498 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:32:43pm

re: #493 MandyManners

Netanyahu to BHO:

Shut the fuck up.

I hope he does say something like that. Obama needs to be clearly and sanely told that he's wrong by someone who is not a crazy.

499 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:35:39pm

re: #496 Olsonist

Wow, you seem quite the patriot.

Imp.

500 cliffster  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:36:31pm

re: #498 Dark_Falcon

I hope he does say something like that. Obama needs to be clearly and sanely told that he's wrong by someone who is not a crazy.

Clowns to the right of me.. worshipers to the left..

501 Digital Display  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:37:06pm

re: #497 Jimmah

Is that a requirement for your work over there? I don't envy you that task. But it would be a very cool thing to have under your belt.

Singapore is mostly English language with Chinese 50/50.. That's what I'm Told.. I work for a Global Japanese Company...So you enjoy and adapt...

502 Olsonist  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:37:36pm

re: #499 MandyManners

Unimpressed.

503 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:38:08pm

Good night all. Stay warm this weekend!

504 cliffster  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:39:01pm

re: #503 Mad Al-Jaffee

Good night all. Stay warm this weekend!

Good weekend to you, harpster

505 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:40:00pm

re: #473 Killgore Trout

My friend is looking forward to assisting you.
I hope Charles forwards the email.
And, you find the palace of your dreams!
Regards.

506 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:40:52pm

re: #502 Olsonist

Unimpressed.

Did I invite your judgment?

507 Olsonist  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:41:46pm

re: #506 MandyManners

Did I invite your judgment?

You received it. I wasn't looking for your invitation.

508 Digital Display  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:41:57pm

re: #503 Mad Al-Jaffee

Good night all. Stay warm this weekend!

Thanks for that..
/Spending all last week chipping ice of the car..Shoveling the driveway before the sun comes up..Following a Salt truck to work?
I'd Love to stay warm!
/

509 Buck  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:46:38pm

Obama does an about face, admits that it was stupid idea to hold 9/11 trial in NY...

OK I am paraphrasing.... (grin) U.S. Drops Plan for a 9/11 Trial in New York City-NY Times

510 Aye Pod  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:46:39pm

Heh - just reading about the GOP reaction to Obama's performance - made me think of this:

511 The Left  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:51:37pm

re: #510 Jimmah

Heh - just reading about the GOP reaction to Obama's performance - made me think of this:


[Video]

Filed under LOL:

One Republican said to me, off the record, behind closed doors: “It was a mistake that we allowed the cameras to roll like that. We should not have done that.

Whoops!

512 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:52:31pm
513 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:52:56pm

re: #509 Buck

Obama does an about face, admits that it was stupid idea to hold 9/11 trial in NY...

OK I am paraphrasing... (grin) U.S. Drops Plan for a 9/11 Trial in New York City-NY Times

That's good news. Securing that courthouse would have been far too disruptive and things still could be gone wrong. I like the idea of holding the trial of Governor's Island. It would allow for much better security.

514 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:53:00pm

*score*

515 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:53:21pm

Fucking amazing.

516 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:53:52pm

re: #512 MandyManners

[Video]

Updinged simply because I like Bob Dylan.

517 The Left  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:55:45pm

A little Elvis...

518 Aye Pod  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:56:07pm

re: #512 MandyManners

Back o' the net!

519 Olsonist  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:56:11pm

The next day, the mayor, who back in November had hailed the idea of trying Khalid Shaikh Mohammed and four other accused Sept. 11 plotters in the heart of downtown Manhattan, made clear he’d changed his mind.

520 cliffster  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:56:39pm

Based on the thousands of links today, I would have thought Democrats won something today. Then I realized they all link to the same quote by the same guy. Good news though. Obama didn't suck for once - score one for the left. Obama actually reached out to Republicans - score one for America.

521 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:56:46pm

re: #516 Dark_Falcon

Updinged simply because I like Bob Dylan.

Well.

522 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:58:04pm

O'Reilly rerun no has Glen Beck calling Obama an Alinskyite again. I don't like Beck but I can endure him when on O'Reilly, because the crazy is dialed back to an 8. I watch his segment in the same spirit as I monitor stalker blogs: Know your enemy.

523 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 8:59:41pm

re: #518 Jimmah

Downding for the crappy song that I've come to hate. I updinged your 510 to compensate. My quarrel was with the song, not with you for posting it.

524 The Left  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:00:03pm

re: #519 Olsonist

The next day, the mayor, who back in November had hailed the idea of trying Khalid Shaikh Mohammed and four other accused Sept. 11 plotters in the heart of downtown Manhattan, made clear he’d changed his mind.

LOL again:

Flashback: Giuliani reportedly said Moussaoui's conviction in federal court was "symbol of American justice"

Giuliani reportedly praised Moussaoui's 2006 trial as evidence "we can give people a fair trial." After Moussaoui's trial resulted in a sentence of life in prison without parole, Giuliani reportedly praised the legal process as demonstrating "that we can give people a fair trial, that we are exactly what we say we are. We are a nation of law." He added that Moussaoui will "be a symbol of American justice." He also reportedly said he was "in awe of our system." [New York Daily News, 5/4/2006]

Following trial, Giuliani reportedly said: "America won tonight." Agence France Presse reported: " 'America won tonight,' [Giuliani] said, arguing that the United States had upheld the worth of its legal system in the eyes of the world." AFP also quoted him saying, "The greater value I think would have been if he was executed. But the greater value is demonstrating what America is like." [AFP, 05/04/2006]

Giuliani testified in Moussaoui's trial. Giuliani testified during the "sentencing trial" for Moussaoui. According to The New York Times, Giuliani was the Justice Department's "star witness." He "described ... the horrors and lasting grief caused by the Sept. 11 attacks," "alternating between his minute-by-minute personal thoughts and his assessment of the damage and disruption caused by the terrorist attacks." [The New York Times, 4/7/2006]

Why, you'd almost think "America's Mayor" was motivated by partisan considerations or something. /

525 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:00:03pm

Hey, DF. Regarding the WWII discussion the other night.
My grandfather was a cook on a Haskell-class attack transport named the USS Sibley, APA-206. That's all I could get from my dad.

526 Olsonist  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:03:17pm

re: #524 iceweasel

Yeah, the conservatives are more into the fear and politics of it. Unimpressed.

527 cliffster  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:03:30pm

re: #523 Dark_Falcon

Downding for the crappy song that I've come to hate. I updinged your 510 to compensate. My quarrel was with the song, not with you for posting it.

Agreed. Responding to Dylan with Macarena is playing fast and loose with musical law

528 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:03:30pm

"Swofford, do you wonder why I look old enough to be your
grandpop but I'm still a ####### staff sergeant?"
"No, Staff Sergeant."
"Because in Vietnam I beat a lieutenant over the head with my
E-tool. He wanted to send my platoon into a gook valley, and I told
him to #### himself, to which he told me he'd send me to the brig, to
which I pulled out my E-tool and split open his ####### head before
calling in a medevac for his dumb ###. I didn't go to the brig but I
lost my stripes. An hour later another platoon went up that valley
and got carved to ####. Poof, the sorry ####### were dead and gone.
My platoon mates still send me birthday cards, did you know that?"
"I didn't know that, Staff Sergeant."
"Well, now you do. And stop calling me staff sergeant. Was
your old man in the war?"
"He was in the air force. He built hot runways."
"The ####### air farce. He ever tell you about it? Did he
live?"
"Yes, he lived. He spoke once about Vietnam."
"If he only spoke once, he wasn't lying."
-- Anthony Swofford, _Jarhead: A Marine's Chronicle of the
Gulf War and Other Battles_, 2003

529 Aye Pod  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:07:45pm

re: #523 Dark_Falcon

Downding for the crappy song that I've come to hate. I updinged your 510 to compensate. My quarrel was with the song, not with you for posting it.

How can anyone hate 'macarena'? Nevermind- here's a favourite of ice and I's I think you will like:

530 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:08:42pm

Hey Night Lizards!

How's life?

What did Obama say today, I missed it entirely.

531 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:11:24pm

re: #525 Varek Raith

Hey, DF. Regarding the WWII discussion the other night.
My grandfather was a cook on a Haskell-class attack transport named the USS Sibley, APA-206. That's all I could get from my dad.

I'll go check and see if I have anything on it.

532 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:12:05pm

re: #531 Dark_Falcon

I'll go check and see if I have anything on it.

Appreciate it, thanks.
:)

533 Buck  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:12:26pm

re: #524 iceweasel

LOL again:

Flashback: Giuliani reportedly said Moussaoui's conviction in federal court was "symbol of American justice"

Are you saying you don't see the difference between Moussaoui and KSM?

534 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:13:05pm

We really don't have much snow on the ground, but it is FREAKIN' cold in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland.

I'd wear long underwear, but I'm already tired of it and have acclamated. No one is wearing hats or gloves anymore.

535 cliffster  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:13:24pm

re: #530 ggt

Hey Night Lizards!

How's life?

What did Obama say today, I missed it entirely.

Hey ggt! It's not so much what he said, it's what he did. He sat with the republicans and talked to them. Shit might get done now. Probably not, but you never know.

536 The Left  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:14:22pm

re: #533 Buck

Are you saying you don't see the difference between Moussaoui and KSM?

I'm saying Rudy changed his tune big time, (compare his earlier statements about trying KSM) and it's purely because of who's in the White House.
BTW, we've successfully tried and convicted something like 195 terrorists in the federal system, including under Bush and Clinton.

537 tradewind  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:17:58pm

re: #535 cliffster
More like he stood in front of Republicans and lectured them.
Complete with finger-shakes.
' I am not an idealogue'.

538 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:18:52pm

I just got in... and I noticed an earlier thread...

Ongoing Outrageous Outrage: Word Counting. One of the silliest in a long list of silly wingnut obsessions: word counting.

Well, I guess it's a silly moonbat obsession too... TIME magazine says...

President Obama spoke the first 676 words of his State of the Union address on Wednesday night before the first hand clap.

It must be a popular pastime, everyones doing it.

539 Buck  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:18:55pm

re: #536 iceweasel

I'm saying Rudy changed his tune big time, (compare his earlier statements about trying KSM) and it's purely because of who's in the White House.
BTW, we've successfully tried and convicted something like 195 terrorists in the federal system, including under Bush and Clinton.

Can you please list any that were captured by Americans in another country, and held for any serious length of time with out miranda?

Moussaoui was arrested in the USA. I think that is a serious enough difference to mean these are not the same.... I think one could have a different opinion about the two cases based on that difference alone.

540 Olsonist  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:20:19pm

re: #536 iceweasel

Including Ramzi Yousef in New York City.

541 Silvergirl  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:21:03pm

re: #530 ggt

Hey Night Lizards!

How's life?

What did Obama say today, I missed it entirely.

I mostly missed politics today and used my free time for an awesome old movie that Gus recommended. Dodsworth. Superb!

I did catch Peggy Noonan's article. Here's one part:

The president did not speak of health care until a half hour in. "As temperatures cool, I want everyone to take another look at the plan we've proposed." Then, "If anyone has a better idea, let me know." Those bland little sentences hidden in plain sight heralded an epic fact: The battle over the president's health-care plan is over, and the plan will not be imposed on the country. Waxing boring on the virtues of the bill was a rhetorical way to obscure the fact that it is dead. To say, "I'm licked and it's done" would have been damagingly memorable. Instead he blithely vowed to move forward, and moved on. The bill will now get lost in the mists and disappear. It is a collapsed soufflé in an unused kitchen in the back of an empty house. Now and then the president will speak of it to rouse his base and remind them of his efforts.

542 The Left  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:22:21pm

re: #539 Buck

Can you please list any

Sorry. Friday night means I'm not in the mood to do your research for you.
There's zero reason to think KSM et al can't be handled in a criminal court.

Moreover, since Obama has retained the two-tier system for prosecuting terrorists, as well as retained indefinite detention without trial for some, you can be certain that these cases wouldn't be tried in a criminal court unless they knew they could be convicted.

543 Olsonist  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:22:51pm

re: #540 Olsonist

Including Ramzi Yousef in New York City.

Who was arrested in Pakistan.

544 cliffster  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:23:47pm

re: #537 tradewind

More like he stood in front of Republicans and lectured them.
Complete with finger-shakes.
' I am not an idealogue'.

Though I agree that he was a bit sarcastic and condescending at times, I think the takeaway is that he met with Republicans. The yipping and yapping on both sides takes away from that fact. It's a shame that in the midst of this, people are thumping their chest saying "Obama showed those Republicans!" or "Obama talked down to the Republicans!"

545 Bagua  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:24:46pm

Early American Slide Guitar

Hard Road Blues


-Buddy Moss
546 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:25:55pm

re: #532 Varek Raith

Appreciate it, thanks.
:)

Found the ships's history page (not Wiki):

USS Sibley

547 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:27:03pm

re: #545 Bagua

Bagua...

I suspect you already saw this... Scientists broke the law by hiding climate change data ?

548 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:27:38pm

re: #546 Dark_Falcon

Found the ships's history page (not Wiki):

USS Sibley

Cool, thanks.

549 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:30:31pm

re: #544 cliffster

Though I agree that he was a bit sarcastic and condescending at times, I think the takeaway is that he met with Republicans. The yipping and yapping on both sides takes away from that fact. It's a shame that in the midst of this, people are thumping their chest saying "Obama showed those Republicans!" or "Obama talked down to the Republicans!"

That's politics. Even if Obama sincerely wants a deal and is willing to make substantive concessions, there will be moonbats and wingnuts who will attack any deal. They will do so because they prefer to fight the other side rather than do anything. The conflict fulfills emotional needs of theirs.

550 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:31:32pm

re: #538 Walter L. Newton

Three "I"s in less than five sentences, Walter. I hate to say it, but I think you might be an narcissist.

/Oh shit, I've got three in two sentences.
//Damn, I did it again.
///ARGH! Run away everybody, it's contagious.

551 Olsonist  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:32:19pm

re: #549 Dark_Falcon

Unfortunately we are rewarding them with their ability to fight cultural proxy wars rather than solve problems in governance.

552 Bagua  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:32:50pm

re: #547 Walter L. Newton

Bagua...

I suspect you already saw this... Scientists broke the law by hiding climate change data ?

Yes I did, looks like there are criminals on both sides of the CRU hack. I expect Prof Phil Jones will be forced to resign soon, as will Dr Pachauri.

553 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:33:02pm

re: #549 Dark_Falcon

I agree with your theory, but I don't agree with your equivalence. One side is waaaay worse right now.


(and to pre-empt the snark, its the right :P)

554 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:34:57pm

re: #505 Floral Giraffe

Thanks, got it. I'm already nervous. What if I move and hate it there? What if I suddenly become allergic to fish? What if I eat a poison mushroom? Will I be scared living in the woods? Nerves!

555 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:35:52pm

re: #554 Killgore Trout

Thanks, got it. I'm already nervous. What if I move and hate it there? What if I suddenly become allergic to fish? What if I eat a poison mushroom? Will I be scared living in the woods? Nerves!

*slaps KT*
Get it together, man!!!111!
/:)

556 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:36:00pm

re: #547 Walter L. Newton

Not adressing the issue directly, but point of law question. In the US would the 'evidence' of the leaked emails be admissable, being illegally obtained?

557 cliffster  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:36:13pm

re: #554 Killgore Trout

Eat mushrooms only from the grocery store or a well-trusted dealer.

558 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:36:25pm

re: #550 Slumbering Behemoth

Three "I"s in less than five sentences, Walter. I hate to say it, but I think you might be an narcissist.

/Oh shit, I've got three in two sentences.
//Damn, I did it again.
///ARGH! Run away everybody, it's contagious.

Well, the wingnuts are obviously not the only ones counting words... and I think this obsession with obsessing about word counters is obsessive.

559 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:37:06pm

re: #554 Killgore Trout

Thanks, got it. I'm already nervous. What if I move and hate it there? What if I suddenly become allergic to fish? What if I eat a poison mushroom? Will I be scared living in the woods? Nerves!

What if you fall from Bandon's lighthouse?

What if you get sick of tourists?

What if you step on seaweed and die of acute disgustedness.

(Yes, I'm aware the lighthouse isn't all that tall. I'm kidding.)

560 Obdicut  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:37:36pm

re: #556 windsagio

Yeah. It has to be, if you think about it: otherwise all you'd have to do to make evidence inadmissible would be to have someone steal it.

Not that people don't steal evidence, rather regularly.

561 Olsonist  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:37:55pm

re: #556 windsagio

Not adressing the issue directly, but point of law question. In the US would the 'evidence' of the leaked emails be admissable, being illegally obtained?

There is something called the Unclean Hands doctrine.

562 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:38:29pm

re: #544 cliffster

Though I agree that he was a bit sarcastic and condescending at times, I think the takeaway is that he met with Republicans. The yipping and yapping on both sides takes away from that fact. It's a shame that in the midst of this, people are thumping their chest saying "Obama showed those Republicans!" or "Obama talked down to the Republicans!"

I think it might be an important step towards elevating the political debate in this country. We'll see if it takes hold but I don't see anything wrong with being condescending towards some of the stupid crap the GOP has been trying to get away with (death panels, fascism, Cloward Piven). This crap shouldn't be tolerated in adult conversations.

563 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:38:30pm

re: #551 Olsonist

Unfortunately we are rewarding them with their ability to fight cultural proxy wars rather than solve problems in governance.

Quite Concur. Any ideas on how to flush the turds who do this sort of thing?

564 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:39:08pm

re: #560 Obdicut

good point. That was always a bit confusing to me.

re: #561 Olsonist

hmm interesting, wonder if that would apply, since in theory a suit (won't happen because its too old) would be by the gov't, not the hackers.

565 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:39:46pm

re: #556 windsagio

Not adressing the issue directly, but point of law question. In the US would the 'evidence' of the leaked emails be admissable, being illegally obtained?

This was not about whether they were leaked legally or not... it has nothing to do with status or validity of the emails at all... this ruling has to do with temperature data and other related information that CRU refused to release even though they were order to by the British FOIA department.

Evidently you are not addressing the issue directly, or at all. Did you even read the article?

566 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:39:55pm

re: #559 EmmmieG

Yeah, I'm a little worked up but I think it'll be easier than buying my first house. I was an emotional wreck for months.

567 Olsonist  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:40:20pm

re: #563 Dark_Falcon

Quite Concur. Any ideas on how to flush the turds who do this sort of thing?

We have met the enemy and he is us.

568 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:40:36pm

re: #560 Obdicut

Yeah. It has to be, if you think about it: otherwise all you'd have to do to make evidence inadmissible would be to have someone steal it.

Not that people don't steal evidence, rather regularly.

I'll just repeat myself...

This was not about whether they were leaked legally or not... it has nothing to do with status or validity of the emails at all... this ruling has to do with temperature data and other related information that CRU refused to release even though they were order to by the British FOIA department.

Evidently you are not addressing the issue directly, or at all. Did you even read the article?

569 Aye Pod  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:40:41pm

re: #554 Killgore Trout

Thanks, got it. I'm already nervous. What if I move and hate it there? What if I suddenly become allergic to fish? What if I eat a poison mushroom? Will I be scared living in the woods? Nerves!

Ahh...now I'm beginning to understand why you've been watching Hugh Fearnley Whittingstall.

570 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:42:05pm

re: #565 Walter L. Newton

I'm not adressing the issue, intentionally :P

I did read it, just was wondering. My impression is they wouldn't know the FOIA had been violated if it hadn't been for the hack.

No need to be mad at me :P

PS: cliffy, was there something upsetting about my 553? I'm lost.

571 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:42:19pm

re: #566 Killgore Trout

Yeah, I'm a little worked up but I think it'll be easier than buying my first house. I was an emotional wreck for months.

Moving to a new town is a big deal. I did like Bandon during the week we were there.

572 Bagua  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:42:40pm

re: #556 windsagio

Not adressing the issue directly, but point of law question. In the US would the 'evidence' of the leaked emails be admissable, being illegally obtained?

That is a fair question. When evidence is illegally acquired it can be challenged on that basis and thrown out of court. Often this will be the case if it was a public official such as a Police Officer, but when it is a private citizen, they are generally more lenient in allowing the evidence.

Of course in this case, the UEA will not be charged at all as it is beyond the time limitations, rather the IC is giving public opinion, which is quite damaging in itself.

573 Obdicut  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:43:09pm

re: #568 Walter L. Newton

That's great, Walter. I was answering his question.

574 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:43:31pm

re: #572 Bagua

yeah, the real harm is in the court of public opinion. It'll be interested if anyone is forced to resign or not, altho' I suspect 'not'.

575 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:43:53pm

re: #573 Obdicut

/waiting for walter to snap at bagua too >>

576 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:44:13pm

re: #554 Killgore Trout

Thanks, got it. I'm already nervous. What if I move and hate it there? What if I suddenly become allergic to fish? What if I eat a poison mushroom? Will I be scared living in the woods? Nerves!

You left off hillfolk, werewolves, and vampires from your list of possible dangers.

Though you could probably discount vampires as a credible threat. They're are sparkley and emo now. You could probably kill one with a small ferret or a heart-felt poem.

577 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:44:14pm

re: #554 Killgore Trout

Thanks, got it. I'm already nervous. What if I move and hate it there? What if I suddenly become allergic to fish? What if I eat a poison mushroom? Will I be scared living in the woods? Nerves!

Killgore - too funny.
one word
Paxil.

578 Obdicut  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:44:23pm

re: #575 windsagio

You'll be waiting awhile, then.

579 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:44:25pm

bbiab

580 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:44:58pm

... wait, is KT moving into a lighthouse?

That'd be mad cool!

/if not, carry on ;)

581 Silvergirl  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:45:24pm

re: #571 EmmmieG

Moving to a new town is a big deal. I did like Bandon during the week we were there.

Hoops is leaving Indiana and going to Singapore, if I got it right! There's a change.

582 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:45:32pm

re: #435 cliffster

Upding for my favorite ZZ Top song.

Mastodon cover:

583 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:45:34pm

re: #570 windsagio

I'm not adressing the issue, intentionally :P

I did read it, just was wondering. My impression is they wouldn't know the FOIA had been violated if it hadn't been for the hack.

No need to be mad at me :P

Your timeline is skewed. This "lawsuit" was brought about because CRU refused to release any information... the email hack came LATER, and the email hack simply confirmed that the CRU was purposely trying to avoid releasing the information. This would have been ruled this way even if the emails never became public. The emails were simply the icing on the cake.

584 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:46:59pm

re: #558 Walter L. Newton

Well, the wingnuts are obviously not the only ones counting words... and I think this obsession with obsessing about word counters is obsessive.

Perhaps your obsession with those who obsess over obsessive word counters is also a bit...

... damn, what's the word I'm looking for?

586 Silvergirl  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:47:25pm

re: #580 windsagio

... wait, is KT moving into a lighthouse?

That'd be mad cool!

/if not, carry on ;)

And he has an invisible dragon named Elliott.
Pete's Dragon! I love that silly movie.

587 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:47:50pm

re: #569 Jimmah

Ahh...now I'm beginning to understand why you've been watching Hugh Fearnley Whittingstall.

Yup, that's it. I think I'll probably forgo the livestock. I might do a little hunting eventually but I want to grow food, fish and forage.

589 Obdicut  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:47:51pm

re: #585 Walter L. Newton

What house of cards, Walter?

590 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:47:56pm

re: #580 windsagio

... wait, is KT moving into a lighthouse?

That'd be mad cool!

/if not, carry on ;)

He is moving into a town with the lighthouse.

Which is missing its lens.

So, KT, your challenge is to solve the decades-old riddles, and find the secret passage way that will uncover the mystery of the stolen Bandon lighthouse lens!

[Link: www.discoveroregonlighthouses.com...]

591 Mocking Jay  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:47:58pm

re: #584 Slumbering Behemoth

Perhaps your obsession with those who obsess over obsessive word counters is also a bit...

... damn, what's the word I'm looking for?

Boring?

592 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:48:25pm

re: #585 Walter L. Newton

... which of course invalidates all the science.


just raising concerns, right?

593 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:48:46pm

re: #589 Obdicut

What house of cards, Walter?

Stop playing dumb like you always do, the act is getting stale and old. Grow up.

595 Aye Pod  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:48:57pm

Blast from the past : Hawkwind - Silver Machine

596 Bagua  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:49:08pm

re: #574 windsagio

yeah, the real harm is in the court of public opinion. It'll be interested if anyone is forced to resign or not, altho' I suspect 'not'.

Jones has already been forced to step aside, but I doubt it will stop there. The CRU is a big peach for the UEA and they will be keen to restore its credibility so they can continue to seek funding through grants. They were otherwise just a backwater University.

Pachauri has already publicly declared that he will not resign, despite the various calls for his resignation from leading supporters of AGW theory. After this weekend the pressure may be impossible for him to deflect.

597 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:49:32pm

re: #590 EmmmieG

oh damn, that the one that just got vandalized?

*no its not.

Hehe I kept thinking Bandon was a person. I'm caught up now, thanks!

598 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:49:39pm

re: #591 JasonA

No... it was right on the tip of my tongue. Damnit.

599 Mich-again  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:49:50pm

Obama could really stir things up with the word counters if instead of saying "I", he would refer to himself in the third person in his speeches.

600 Girth  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:49:57pm

re: #589 Obdicut

What house of cards, Walter?

You're out of your element, Donny!

601 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:50:19pm
602 Mocking Jay  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:50:40pm

re: #598 Slumbering Behemoth

No... it was right on the tip of my tongue. Damnit.

I find that when I obsess over trying to remember something it just keeps slipping away...

603 Bagua  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:50:44pm

re: #588 Walter L. Newton

Just the tip of the iceberg, as they say. :)

604 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:50:49pm

re: #570 windsagio

I would think it was "the right is wayyy worse" part of your post.

Kinda like saying "sure we're killers, but those guys over there have killed a lot more people than we did."

Tu quoque, dontcha know? (wink)

605 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:50:50pm

re: #599 Mich-again

best idea along that line: He refer to himself as "Bob Dole". (I think PT Barnum came up with that, credit where its due)

606 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:51:05pm

re: #511 iceweasel

Whoops!

GOP: "We don't like the truth that Obama is competent and trying to be bipartisan to get out" :D

607 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:51:32pm

re: #602 JasonA

Dude! Be quiet... I almost had it.

608 Obdicut  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:51:34pm

re: #594 Dark_Falcon

It doesn't in the least bit undermine the AGW case.

re: #593 Walter L. Newton

Walter, are you really incapable of having a civil discussion?

What do you mean when you say that the house of cards is collapsing? Do you mean the IPCC? I honestly can't understand what you think this is going to cause.

609 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:52:27pm

re: #541 Silvergirl

Shorter: If Obama's explaining, he's losing.

610 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:52:39pm

re: #604 ausador

lol; Almost got a + for the tu quoque jab that was good :D

No, the right is worse. Calling a false equivalence is appropriate I think.

611 Mich-again  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:52:48pm

re: #605 windsagio

best idea along that line: He refer to himself as "Bob Dole". (I think PT Barnum came up with that, credit where its due)

I know it, You know it, the American people know it, Bob Dole knows it.

612 Mocking Jay  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:53:00pm

re: #609 The Sanity Inspector

Shorter: If Obama's explaining, he's losing.

Is it like when you have to spell out a joke for someone?

613 Bagua  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:53:14pm

re: #594 Dark_Falcon

I'm not sure that undermines the AGW case. That said, I hope Ludwig gets whatever grant application he's working done and comes back to address this issue.

It doesn't undermine AGW, it undermines the IPCC AR4 and the hype built up around the theory.

In the fullness of time this will be very healthy for science.

614 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:54:27pm

re: #520 cliffster

Based on the thousands of links today, I would have thought Democrats won something today. Then I realized they all link to the same quote by the same guy. Good news though. Obama didn't suck for once - score one for the left. Obama actually reached out to Republicans - score one for America.

I recall him trying to invite Judd Greg into his cabinet.

615 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:54:46pm

re: #594 Dark_Falcon

I'm not sure that undermines the AGW case. That said, I hope Ludwig gets whatever grant application he's working done and comes back to address this issue.

And where did I say it does? Over and over, I have stated here that my concern is with the process, procedure and protocol of these scientist, whether or not they are following best practice. Whether or not the software they write and use is valid or sloppy. Whether they are actually using peer-reviewed material, or using just anything that will prove their point. Whether they are telling the truth when they make this public statement or that.

That's my only concern, the PPP deniers, the ones that deny that correct process, procedure and protocol is necessary to good science.

616 cliffster  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:54:50pm

It's interesting, watching AGW debated the same as any other political topic. We're not going to vote on global temperatures, guys. Well, we might, but the supreme court has certainly not ruled that the electoral colleges have any authority over global temperatures.

617 Obdicut  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:56:07pm

re: #616 cliffster

Didn't some state vote to change a mathematical constant? Or was that a parody?

It's so hard to tell these days.

618 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:56:16pm

re: #600 Girth

You're out of your element, Donny!


ahahahahahahaha okay, that was GENIUS.

619 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:57:15pm

re: #617 Obdicut

ask and you shall receive.

short answer: Almost.

620 cliffster  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:57:26pm

re: #617 Obdicut

Didn't some state vote to change a mathematical constant? Or was that a parody?

It's so hard to tell these days.

I think G is testifying before the Senate next week. Hope it does better than Barry Bonds.

621 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:57:32pm

re: #615 Walter L. Newton

Walter, I linked this up-thread. Considering your background in the theater, you likely know enough obscure characters to be able to stump this thing much quicker than I did.

622 Silvergirl  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:58:05pm

re: #605 windsagio

best idea along that line: He refer to himself as "Bob Dole". (I think PT Barnum came up with that, credit where its due)

I'll have you know I was the fifth comment in the thread and the first to mention Bob Dole.

Thank you.

*Bows, takes rose bouquet, exits to a smattering of applause*

623 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:58:33pm

re: #616 cliffster

its more amazing that we can argue about it when we all claim to agree :p


/altho I suspect sometimes that there are a few people on here that don't really agree at all ;)

624 Obdicut  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:59:02pm

re: #621 Slumbering Behemoth

Oooh, nifty, is that a neural net?

This one is:

[Link: www.20q.net...]

625 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:59:28pm

re: #554 Killgore Trout

Thanks, got it. I'm already nervous. What if I move and hate it there? What if I suddenly become allergic to fish? What if I eat a poison mushroom? Will I be scared living in the woods? Nerves!

Ahem...

626 Obdicut  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 9:59:55pm

re: #624 Obdicut

And it successfully guessed Crow T. Robot in 21 guesses, but with historical figures pre-1900, it tends to miss if they're not hugely important.

It's bad at the natural philosophers, for example.

627 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:00:08pm

re: #612 JasonA

Is it like when you have to spell out a joke for someone?

Like that, yeah.

628 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:00:09pm

re: #621 Slumbering Behemoth

Walter, I linked this up-thread. Considering your background in the theater, you likely know enough obscure characters to be able to stump this thing much quicker than I did.

I don't even understand what it is doing. It asked for my user name and before I could even type something in, it went on to another screen and acting funny. I'm not sure if my Safari browser likes that page.

629 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:00:41pm

re: #624 Obdicut

I don't know.

630 Mocking Jay  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:01:06pm

re: #619 windsagio

ask and you shall receive.

short answer: Almost.

It's amazing what our elected officials waste their time on.

631 Obdicut  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:01:18pm

re: #628 Walter L. Newton

Try the 20q one I linked. It plays fine with Chrome, so hopefully it'll treat Safari well too.

632 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:01:49pm

re: #616 cliffster

It's interesting, watching AGW debated the same as any other political topic. We're not going to vote on global temperatures, guys. Well, we might, but the supreme court has certainly not ruled that the electoral colleges have any authority over global temperatures.

Good point. The problem is that this is a critical issue, so we need to get the science right to know what actions we need to take. We can't be advancing job killing 'carbon tax' bills when we don't really know that they'll do any good.

633 blueraven  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:01:49pm

re: #538 Walter L. Newton

I just got in... and I noticed an earlier thread...


Well, I guess it's a silly moonbat obsession too... TIME magazine says...

President Obama spoke the first 676 words of his State of the Union address on Wednesday night before the first hand clap.

It must be a popular pastime, everyones doing it.

Surely you are not suggesting Michael Scherer is a lefty?

634 Aye Pod  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:02:01pm

re: #587 Killgore Trout

Yup, that's it. I think I'll probably forgo the livestock. I might do a little hunting eventually but I want to grow food, fish and forage.

Sounds great, KT - I'm sure you are in for some i nteresting adventures. I've never done the self sufficiency in food thing, but I lived in a little 'bothy' in the countryside for a couple of years after university, back in the 90's. I used to love going out into the woods to collect firewood every other day (every day in winter). Loved it. We're looking into renting somewhere like that for a couple of months each year when ice-ski gets here.

635 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:02:33pm

re: #633 blueraven

Surely you are not suggesting Michael Scherer is a lefty?

I'm talking about TIME magazine in general.

636 Girth  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:02:39pm

re: #617 Obdicut

Didn't some state vote to change a mathematical constant? Or was that a parody?

It's so hard to tell these days.

In a shocking development, the Senate has overridden the President's veto of the bill to round pi down to 3, henceforth making all circles into hexagons.

637 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:02:56pm

re: #631 Obdicut

Try the 20q one I linked. It plays fine with Chrome, so hopefully it'll treat Safari well too.

Don't try to be nice to me, it's not working.

638 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:03:26pm

re: #628 Walter L. Newton

Safari might be the problem, it works fine on my Firefox.

Anyhow, it's just a diversion. You think of a character, real or fictional, and answer the questions posed. It's ability to guess correctly is rather uncanny.

639 Olsonist  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:04:03pm

re: #635 Walter L. Newton

I'm talking about TIME magazine in general.

Time Magazine is left of you. That doesn't make it a leftist magazine.

640 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:04:15pm

re: #576 Slumbering Behemoth

You left off hillfolk, werewolves, and vampires from your list of possible dangers.

Though you could probably discount vampires as a credible threat. They're are sparkley and emo now. You could probably kill one with a small ferret or a heart-felt poem.

LOL, yep.
Vampires are no longer a threat, apparently they now spend all their time "stalking" (romantically?) high school girls.

641 cliffster  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:04:18pm

re: #623 windsagio

its more amazing that we can argue about it when we all claim to agree :p

/altho I suspect sometimes that there are a few people on here that don't really agree at all ;)

I'm not even talk about agreeing or disagreeing. I'm talking about the ridiculous form the discussion takes. One side trying to discredit the other with this or that. Misses the point of science. Molecules bounce off each other. They don't check with anybody before doing so. Reputations of those that believe, or disbelieve, in man-caused global warming, is irrelevant.

642 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:04:20pm

re: #635 Walter L. Newton

Man if TIME is a leftwing magazine, the Luces' are rolling over in Hell.

643 Obdicut  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:04:47pm

re: #637 Walter L. Newton

Well, I'm successfully being nice to you. You're just failing to accept it.

And I'm fairly sure that akinator is a neural net of the same flavor of 20q. I like neural nets. They're such an awesome way of solving some problems.

644 Bagua  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:05:38pm

re: #632 Dark_Falcon

Good point. The problem is that this is a critical issue, so we need to get the science right to know what actions we need to take. We can't be advancing job killing 'carbon tax' bills when we don't really know that they'll do any good.

We also need to get beyond the current state, where any examination of the data or theory revolves around the question "Do you believe in AGW?"

The problem is the belief system, and the media hype and the resulting political hype has gotten way ahead of the actual science.

Putting the cart before the horse, as they say, always ends unpleasantly for both the horse and the cart.

645 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:05:50pm

re: #643 Obdicut

Well, I'm successfully being nice to you. You're just failing to accept it.

First thing I have agree with you on in months.

646 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:06:41pm

re: #639 Olsonist

Time Magazine is left of you. That doesn't make it a leftist magazine.

Well I'd say that TIME is a liberal magazine, but there not leftist in the way that The Nation is.

647 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:06:47pm

re: #643 Obdicut

Shhh... He's flirting with you. Let him buy you a drink or something.

648 Obdicut  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:06:53pm

re: #619 windsagio

My favorite quote from that article:

Bill #246 was initially sent to the Committee on Swamp Lands.

Because that's who's in charge of Pi.

649 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:07:07pm

Toodles, all.

650 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:07:38pm

re: #644 Bagua

We also need to get beyond the current state, where any examination of the data or theory revolves around the question "Do you believe in AGW?"

The problem is the belief system, and the media hype and the resulting political hype has gotten way ahead of the actual science.

Putting the cart before the horse, as they say, always ends unpleasantly for both the horse and the cart.

Quite concur. That's a post we can all agree on.

651 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:07:53pm

re: #649 The Sanity Inspector

Toodles, all.

Night, SI.

652 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:07:55pm

re: #648 Obdicut

The Straight Dope is one of the best things, EVER.

653 blueraven  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:07:59pm

re: #635 Walter L. Newton

I'm talking about TIME magazine in general.

Ok I see. I would agree they may have a slight left slant
but they also balance that with writers like Scherer.

654 Olsonist  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:08:30pm

re: #646 Dark_Falcon

Well I'd say that TIME is a liberal magazine, but there not leftist in the way that The Nation is.

No, not liberal either. Just less conservative than you are. I'd say Time and Newsweek are like the Newshour and NPR pretty darned mainstream centrist.

655 Silvergirl  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:08:39pm

re: #649 The Sanity Inspector

Toodles, all.

toodle-oo!

656 Mich-again  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:09:20pm

Is it a language gap or a Freudian slip

.."We bear responsibility for his assassination and we will retaliate," Khaled Meshaal, the exiled leader of Hamas politburo, said during al-Mabhouh's funeral in Damascus.

So if you guys bear responsibility, who are you going to retaliate against?

657 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:09:31pm

re: #654 Olsonist

I secretly agree with you, but good luck with that argument :p

658 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:09:32pm

re: #644 Bagua

We also need to get beyond the current state, where any examination of the data or theory revolves around the question "Do you believe in AGW?"

The problem is the belief system, and the media hype and the resulting political hype has gotten way ahead of the actual science.

Putting the cart before the horse, as they say, always ends unpleasantly for both the horse and the cart.

Nope... it's just like religion... you can't just profess a belief in G-d... you have to answer... "do you accept Christ as your Lord and Savior."

Just because I agree that there is a global warming trend is not good enough. I have to believe that CRU and all the others are perfect beings, incapable of actually trying to deceive in the most, or in the least, some very sloppy scientists.

Nope, unless you believe that the IPCC and CRU and Etal are your lords and saviors, you are simply a non-believer.

Bullshit.

659 Obdicut  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:09:54pm

re: #654 Olsonist

I'd say that Time and Newsweek just suck, and to check any story you read in either of them, especially if it has to do with science.

660 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:10:19pm

re: #659 Obdicut

hah thats true either way >>

661 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:11:15pm

I'm back for a bit.

Hey again.

662 Girth  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:11:16pm

re: #648 Obdicut

My favorite quote from that article:

Because that's who's in charge of Pi.

I like the letter from H.K.S. in Springfield, VA. I think it would be an interesting exercise to try to explain significant digits to such a person.

663 Obdicut  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:11:57pm

re: #658 Walter L. Newton

I think that the guy at CRU was attempting to screw over the climate change deniers by improperly denying their legitimate requests for information, and that he's a naughty boy for having done so.

Things aren't as black and white as you're painting them.

But it's definitely more dramatic your way!

664 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:12:49pm

re: #663 Obdicut

but,

The house of cards is falling down!

665 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:12:56pm

re: #663 Obdicut

I think that the guy at CRU was attempting to screw over the climate change deniers by improperly denying their legitimate requests for information, and that he's a naughty boy for having done so.

Things aren't as black and white as you're painting them.

But it's definitely more dramatic your way!

I don't understand what you are saying.

666 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:13:38pm

re: #646 Dark_Falcon

Well I'd say that TIME is a liberal magazine, but there not leftist in the way that The Nation is.

Time has never been a liberal magazine from it's first inception, it still is not today. Look at who they have in their writers stable and read the editorial comment, they are still very much right, just in a mainstream way rather than blatantly enough to make the wingnuts happy.

667 Bagua  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:14:26pm

re: #658 Walter L. Newton

Exactly. This is not science, rather it is the corruption of science. Once the religion has been crushed, and we are seeing the start of that now, the politicians and the Media will lose interest and the circus show will stop. The scientists will stop with the jet setting and public awards shows and go back to what they do, science, which requires nerds, not media stars.

No one "believes" in gravity for example, and particle physics is not hotly debated in the media.

668 Mocking Jay  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:14:37pm

re: #624 Obdicut

Oooh, nifty, is that a neural net?

This one is:

[Link: www.20q.net...]

Precious minutes are being siphoned off of my life thanks to you!!

669 Obdicut  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:14:57pm

re: #665 Walter L. Newton

You made a hyperbolic claim, that one had to

"believe that CRU and all the others are perfect beings, incapable of actually trying to deceive in the most, or in the least, some very sloppy scientists.

Nope, unless you believe that the IPCC and CRU and Etal are your lords and saviors, you are simply a non-believer."

But it's rather far from the truth.

670 cliffster  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:15:08pm

re: #666 ausador

The scary thing is, people actually believe this is true, absurd as it may be.

671 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:15:12pm

re: #666 ausador

Well really, its part of the tactic: Move the left fringe as far to the right as possible, because then everything under the new border can be ignored.

The left does it occasionally, but for some reason they don't tend to be as blatant about it :P

672 Obdicut  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:15:48pm

re: #667 Bagua

Difference being that we don't actually have to do anything about gravity. We do have to do something about AGW.

673 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:15:59pm

re: #599 Mich-again

Obama could really stir things up with the word counters if instead of saying "I", he would refer to himself in the third person in his speeches.

As long as he doesn't start talking like the Queen of England in the 2nd person, I think we're going to be OK.

674 cliffster  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:16:37pm

It's frustrating, the mainstream media is such a sellout to the right.

675 cliffster  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:17:02pm

re: #672 Obdicut

Difference being that we don't actually have to do anything about gravity. We do have to do something about AGW.

I look in the mirror every day. I need to do something about gravity.

676 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:17:19pm

re: #667 Bagua

heh, you are so deeply wrong about that. Once the religion has been crushed, the same forces behind it will go on and work on crushing the science.

You're assuming the opponents of AGW are working in good faith, and thats a big mistake.

677 Bagua  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:17:19pm

re: #672 Obdicut

Difference being that we don't actually have to do anything about gravity. We do have to do something about AGW.

Who is this "we" paleface?

678 Girth  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:17:23pm

FFS why did James Hetfield have to go and try to learn how to sing?

Metallica sounds like they have some douchebag frat boy for a front man now.

679 Mocking Jay  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:18:03pm

Okay, 20q is stupid

You are Stringer Bell.
Were you killed off? You said Yes, 20Q was taught by other players that the answer is No.

Or at least the people using it are. Got it in only 17 questions, though. Impressive.

680 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:18:16pm

Anyone see this? Looks like Bill O'Reilly's "no spin" poll got punked

94% say Obama rates A first year..

Oh, and good evening.

681 Obdicut  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:18:22pm

re: #674 cliffster

I'd say they're more sellouts to hysteria. They like reporting in a hysterical tone. Nothing can just be reported on anymore, there have to be sudden reversals, surprising developments. More and more, the reporters try to give the impression that things are changing every minute... even when they're just standing outside a courthouse and nothing is going to happen for hours.

I don't know how they do their jobs. It must be really boring.

682 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:19:26pm

re: #681 Obdicut

Hysteria moves product >>

683 Bagua  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:19:27pm

re: #676 windsagio

heh, you are so deeply wrong about that. Once the religion has been crushed, the same forces behind it will go on and work on crushing the science.

You're assuming the opponents of AGW are working in good faith, and thats a big mistake.

Perhaps, perhaps not. Time will tell. I certainly know I'm working in good faith. Can't speak for everyone though, and there are certainly people with agendas on both sides. My assertion is that the science will mature better without the hype and agenda, the pressure is quite distorting.

684 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:19:58pm

re: #676 windsagio

heh, you are so deeply wrong about that. Once the religion has been crushed, the same forces behind it will go on and work on crushing the science.

You're assuming the opponents of AGW are working in good faith, and thats a big mistake.

Well, you assume that all the scientist were working in good fiath, and it is quite evident at this point, that a good number of the major players were not.

And that's not my opinion, it's facts... it's the British governments facts, the Indian governments facts and other scientists facts.

685 cliffster  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:20:20pm

re: #681 Obdicut

Yeah, watch live coverage of a high-speed car chase. "He's driving really fast! Still driving really fast! He had to go around that truck! He's driving really fast!"

686 Obdicut  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:20:35pm

re: #679 JasonA

It's a neural net-- it can only be as 'smart' as an algorithmic interpretation of the answers of those answering. If you look into the theory of neural nets, it's really damn interesting. I encourage it.

687 What, me worry?  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:20:40pm

re: #678 Girth

FFS why did James Hetfield have to go and try to learn how to sing?

Metallica sounds like they have some douchebag frat boy for a front man now.

They didn't before? :p

688 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:20:42pm

Round and round we go!
Wheee!

689 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:21:29pm

re: #688 Varek Raith

Round and round we go!
Wheee!

Hop it Varek.

690 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:21:42pm

re: #683 Bagua

Its more that the tactic is foolish :p The lesson of the ICPP thing is 'don't try any funny stuff, you won't get away with it'. I guess that's the internet age for ya ;)

And, just to be clear, I'm not accusing you of acting in bad faith. I definitely believe that there are plenty of actors that are tho (ie the exxon-mobil types and the Inhofe's of the world)

691 Mocking Jay  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:21:49pm

re: #686 Obdicut

It's a neural net-- it can only be as 'smart' as an algorithmic interpretation of the answers of those answering. If you look into the theory of neural nets, it's really damn interesting. I encourage it.

Is this damn thing going to come to life and kill us all?

692 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:22:02pm

re: #678 Girth

Now?

693 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:22:17pm

re: #688 Varek Raith

sorry varek, I'll stop.

Concern trolling just pisses me off :P

694 Obdicut  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:22:17pm

re: #691 JasonA

If it does, it'll only have about an 80% success rate.

Neural net jokes rule.

695 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:22:44pm

Who brought up �@$#@ AGW anyways?

696 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:23:03pm

re: #693 windsagio

sorry varek, I'll stop.

Concern trolling just pisses me off :P

Oh, don't mind me! Just being snarky!
Carry on!
;)

697 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:23:59pm

re: #696 Varek Raith

Eeh, you have a point. Its one of those things that nobody's gonna get through on. It just goes on and on until someone has to leave their computer for some reason :P

698 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:24:16pm

re: #695 windsagio

Who brought up &#@$#@ AGW anyways?

I did. Since there seemed to be a lack of any mention of the current developments among us. Just thought that I would liven up the evening. Besides, I haven't had anyone to argue with for hours. My day is not complete unless I get a chance to disagree with someone.

699 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:24:51pm

re: #698 Walter L. Newton

hah good show!

You made me smile :)

Wanna argue about Apple or Lost?

700 Girth  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:25:03pm

re: #687 marjoriemoon

They didn't before? :p

Black album and after, yes, they did, but I don't listen to that stuff.

I still love to listen to Master of Puppets front to back from time to time.

701 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:25:29pm

re: #699 windsagio

hah good show!

You made me smile :)

Wanna argue about Apple or Lost?

What do you want to say about LOST (careful Ranger).

702 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:25:33pm

Hah! I've stumped the Akinator, and added a (fictional) character to it's list that it had never heard of. Elijah C. Skuggs.

703 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:25:43pm

I'm so confused, My neural net is going to kill me or the AGW scientists?

704 Bagua  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:26:00pm

re: #690 windsagio

Its more that the tactic is foolish :p The lesson of the ICPP thing is 'don't try any funny stuff, you won't get away with it'. I guess that's the internet age for ya ;)

And, just to be clear, I'm not accusing you of acting in bad faith. I definitely believe that there are plenty of actors that are tho (ie the exxon-mobil types and the Inhofe's of the world)

Yes, I know you are not pointing the finger at me.

It will be a sign of progress on this forum, IMHO, when we can discuss such emotive topics as AGW without all the personal attacks and calls to and questions of beliefs and faith. We can not "win" or decide this issue on this forum, we are not qualified. But we can exchange ideas, test our ideas and learn from each other. I look forward to that eventuality, though perhaps I'm a dreamer.

705 Olsonist  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:26:14pm

re: #693 windsagio

... Concern trolling just pisses me off :P

It is very tedious. The denialists never quote actual data and arguments. It's always something peripheral. The more obscure, the smaller, the more conspiratorial. Never the blitheringly obvious.

They did the same thing with Rachel Carson. DDT is good for you. Let's spray the neighborhood.

706 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:26:17pm

re: #703 ggt

I'm so confused, My neural net is going to kill me or the AGW scientists?

Skynet....or perhaps SHODAN...hard to tell.

707 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:26:35pm

re: #706 Varek Raith

+10000 for shodan.

708 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:26:37pm

re: #698 Walter L. Newton

My day is not complete unless I get a chance to disagree with someone.

Yes it is.

709 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:26:38pm

re: #701 Walter L. Newton

What do you want to say about LOST (careful Ranger).

Walter, I can't remember and sorry I've asked this before, did your read Ecco's Foucault's Pendulum? I know we talked about it at some point.

710 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:27:12pm

re: #701 Walter L. Newton

OK, Apple it is!

Its wrong that a $300 PC notebook is just about as powerful as a $1100 macbook

711 Obdicut  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:27:39pm

re: #709 ggt

Great, great book.

Have you read Sewer, Gas, Electric, by Matt Ruff? People who like Eco usually love it. A very weird book. One of the subplots revolves around Howard Hughes golden submarine.

712 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:27:43pm

*gets popcorn*

713 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:27:43pm

re: #709 ggt

love that book, and germaine to Lost in the tendency of people to seek patterns where there are none ;:)

714 Bagua  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:28:50pm

re: #712 Varek Raith

*gets popcorn*

:)

715 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:29:11pm

re: #711 Obdicut

Great, great book.

Have you read Sewer, Gas, Electric, by Matt Ruff? People who like Eco usually love it. A very weird book. One of the subplots revolves around Howard Hughes golden submarine.

Thanks, I like wierd. It's in the wish list.

716 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:30:04pm

Umberto Eco seriously fries my brain. The Island of the Day Before still makes me wince.

717 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:30:47pm

re: #687 marjoriemoon

They didn't before? :p

Of course not, thats heresy...

Why, I could listen to that for hours, days even...

/not. (honestly wtf?)

718 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:31:05pm

re: #709 ggt

Walter, I can't remember and sorry I've asked this before, did your read Ecco's Foucault's Pendulum? I know we talked about it at some point.

Yep... a number of internal references to it on LOST. Of course, LOST is actually using a concept of Eco's, that of linking fiction to existing fiction and myth in order to build a meta story, interconnecting, overlapping and so on. Just as "Pendulum" is a story of self-fulfilling concepts, so is LOST and LOST also has built multiple connections to existng myths and factual historical figures.

719 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:31:27pm

re: #716 ggt

That book is a serious pain in the ass.

If you like Eco, Italo Calvino's Invisible Cities is great too.

Not as erudite or complex as Eco, but the numerolgy and wordplay in it is simply stunning.

720 cliffster  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:32:06pm

looks like people are showing up and there's interesting conversation stirring up. hate to duck out now since I've been holding out all evening, but it's late, and late is what it is. So I hope everyone has a peaceful and purposeful weekend. Talk at ya later

721 Mocking Jay  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:32:11pm

Mr Eko, by the Oceanic Six. I still don't get it. It makes me laugh, but I'm not sure it's supposed to, know what I mean?

722 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:33:40pm

re: #699 windsagio

hah good show!

You made me smile :)

Wanna argue about Apple or Lost?

Wait... you're just trying to trick me into shutting up about AGW and the scientists... ha, ha... it took me a while, but I finally caught up with your little scheme... and you thought you had me there for a moment.

723 Aye Pod  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:33:59pm

The Navajo Know (Pixies) :

724 Obdicut  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:33:59pm

re: #719 windsagio

Calvino is great.

And I'm assuming everyone is acknowledging that Borges is the absolute master of that style of surreal, conspiratorial writing.

Man, that cat had some strange stuff in his head.

725 What, me worry?  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:34:00pm

re: #700 Girth

Black album and after, yes, they did, but I don't listen to that stuff.

I still love to listen to Master of Puppets front to back from time to time.

heh I really do love metal, but I've never been a Metallica fan. My thought about them is they only have one song. But you could probably say that about a lot of groups lol

726 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:34:08pm

re: #722 Walter L. Newton

Lol, no. Varek just shamed me into shutting up :P

727 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:34:49pm

re: #726 windsagio

Lol, no. Varek just shamed me into shutting up :P

Wasn't my intent. :)

728 blueraven  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:34:58pm

re: #680 Stanley Sea

Anyone see this? Looks like Bill O'Reilly's "no spin" poll got punked

94% say Obama rates A first year..

Oh, and good evening.

LOL. No kidding!

Thanks for the chuckle. Good night.

729 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:35:10pm

re: #721 JasonA

That's fan based content. It's not "official" LOST...

730 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:35:13pm

re: #724 Obdicut

Man, did you ever read Gore Vidal's reviews of Borges? He turned me off on the stuff permanently... Before I even read any.

Thats probably bad tho >>

731 Mocking Jay  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:36:07pm

re: #729 Walter L. Newton

That's fan based content. It's not "official" LOST...

I know that!

732 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:36:12pm

re: #678 Girth

FFS why did James Hetfield have to go and try to learn how to sing?

Metallica sounds like they have some douchebag frat boy for a front man now.

YOU'RE HAVING A METAL DISCUSSION WITHOUT ME :(

And agreed totally. Hetfield can't sing harsh vocals anymore, now he sounds like Scott Stapp from Creed. Yuck.

733 What, me worry?  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:36:30pm

re: #717 ausador

He is pretty hot lookin though.

734 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:36:31pm

re: #730 windsagio

Man, did you ever read Gore Vidal's reviews of Borges? He turned me off on the stuff permanently... Before I even read any.

Thats probably bad tho >>

Gore Vidal turns me off. I've seen him interviewed and thought he was an arrogant *&^%. I don't think I could contribute a dime to his income by buying anything he wrote.

735 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:36:55pm

re: #729 Walter L. Newton

since you asked, and nobody would come at me on Apple, I'll invite destruction :p

I have issues with Lost because I think its a big scam (or if you want to be more educated sounding/nice, its an exercise in making people see a plot where there are just random elements :p)

736 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:37:33pm

re: #725 marjoriemoon

heh I really do love metal, but I've never been a Metallica fan. My thought about them is they only have one song. But you could probably say that about a lot of groups lol

Puppets is a flawless record, but it's really the only one I return to. I've moved on.

737 Mocking Jay  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:37:33pm

re: #732 WindUpBird

YOU'RE HAVING A METAL DISCUSSION WITHOUT ME :(

And agreed totally. Hetfield can't sing harsh vocals anymore, now he sounds like Scott Stapp from Creed. Yuck.

The Black Album was Metallica's last.

For me, anyways.

738 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:37:50pm

re: #735 windsagio

since you asked, and nobody would come at me on Apple, I'll invite destruction :p

I have issues with Lost because I think its a big scam (or if you want to be more educated sounding/nice, its an exercise in making people see a plot where there are just random elements :p)

It's all about the DRAMA. And, in that sense, it is very good. Drives me up the wall.

739 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:38:19pm

re: #734 ggt

hah, he's worth it for calling Bill Buckley a "crypto-nazi".

That aside, his litcrit is totally brilliant. The guy really makes you love or hate a book, and buy it if you haven't.

740 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:38:36pm

re: #700 Girth

I still love to listen to Master of Puppets front to back from time to time.

There is nothing after Master of Puppets. The band broke up after Cliff Burton's death.

/lalalala.. not listenting.. lalalala

741 Mocking Jay  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:38:37pm

re: #735 windsagio

since you asked, and nobody would come at me on Apple, I'll invite destruction :p

I have issues with Lost because I think its a big scam (or if you want to be more educated sounding/nice, its an exercise in making people see a plot where there are just random elements :p)

Twin Peaks, take two? Seriously though, storytelling is a journey, not a destination.

742 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:38:50pm

re: #734 ggt

Gore Vidal turns me off. I've seen him interviewed and thought he was an arrogant *&^%. I don't think I could contribute a dime to his income by buying anything he wrote.

He is an arrogant shit, and that's why I like him. I also like Chris Hitchens for the same reason. They call people out and just don't give a shit. Chris Hitchens dissing Falwell after his death was one of my favorite things I have ever heard.

743 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:38:51pm

re: #735 windsagio

Duck and cover!

744 blueraven  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:39:12pm

re: #735 windsagio

since you asked, and nobody would come at me on Apple, I'll invite destruction :p

I have issues with Lost because I think its a big scam (or if you want to be more educated sounding/nice, its an exercise in making people see a plot where there are just random elements :p)

Sounds a lot like Glenn Beck.

745 Obdicut  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:39:48pm

re: #730 windsagio

Gore Vidal is not fit to edit the memo line of a check written by Borges.

Some of my favorite Borges lines:

Mir Bahadur Ali is, as we have seen, incapable of evading the most vulgar of art's temptations: that of being a genius.

And this one answers Vidal very well:

Like every writer, he measured the virtues of other writers by their performance, and asked that they measure him by what he conjectured or planned.

746 What, me worry?  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:39:50pm

re: #736 WindUpBird

Puppets is a flawless record, but it's really the only one I return to. I've moved on.

I've always been an AC/DC fan from back when Bon was singing. I'm crazy for Angus Young.

747 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:40:03pm

re: #739 windsagio

hah, he's worth it for calling Bill Buckley a "crypto-nazi".

That aside, his litcrit is totally brilliant. The guy really makes you love or hate a book, and buy it if you haven't.

Admit it, what he said about Buckley was way out of line. You can disagree with his beliefs, but William F Buckley was not a totalitarian in any way, and Vidal was an ass for saying he was.

748 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:40:18pm

12 more days until my Audible membership is due to allot another 2 books. I've been making due on actual books and fiction podcasts. There is some wacky stuff out there, and I like it. Wormwood--silly, but I can't wait for the next episode.
For some reason it seems like a cross between DR Who, Lost and A Series of Unfortunate Events.

749 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:41:17pm

re: #745 Obdicut

I'll go back and get some then, being close to Powell's is good for that :D

And shush, I love Vidal :P

re: #747 Dark_Falcon

it was funny! I love the dripping upper-class contempt. It was just about them hating each other.

750 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:41:26pm

re: #740 Slumbering Behemoth

There is nothing after Master of Puppets. The band broke up after Cliff Burton's death.

/lalalala.. not listenting.. lalalala

Ya know, I would have argued against you on this ten years ago, now I'm starting to come around. I still like some stuff on Black album and Justice, but Justice has such horrible production that I can barely stand it anymore. One and Harvester are the only song off it I return to. How the fuck they had the warmest, fattest guitar tones on Master and traded it in for that tin can shit that Justice sounds like, I'll never understand.

I don't want to hear anything bad about Newsted though. Newsted is a fabulous bassist, and his other bands (chiefly Flotsam and Jetsam and Voivod) are brilliant.

751 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:41:56pm

re: #747 Dark_Falcon

Admit it, what he said about Buckley was way out of line. You can disagree with his beliefs, but William F Buckley was not a totalitarian in any way, and Vidal was an ass for saying he was.

I get the idea that he HATES women.

752 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:42:15pm

re: #746 marjoriemoon

I've always been an AC/DC fan from back when Bon was singing. I'm crazy for Angus Young.

I can get with the AC.DC! Talk about a band that only has one song, though. 8-) I still love them. Maximum Overdrive soundtrack forever!

753 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:42:21pm

re: #735 windsagio

since you asked, and nobody would come at me on Apple, I'll invite destruction :p

I have issues with Lost because I think its a big scam (or if you want to be more educated sounding/nice, its an exercise in making people see a plot where there are just random elements :p)

Nope. I've done this little tap dance many times before. First off, this was the first evening serialized show that had a promise from a network for a certain number of years, in this case six. The producers had the basic plot arcs, beginning, middle and end all worked out before they even filmed the pilot. Of course, it's a TV show, they had wiggle room to modify how they accomplished the plot arcs, but all the key plot points and elements were created before the show began.

The last season, season five, was proof of how they producers had the complex elements worked out, there was so many moments of "That's why so-and-so happened in season [pick a number]."

LOST has been a very successful experiment in creating a evening serialized TV show in a brand new way, and 16 million viewers an episode is proof of that fact.

754 Obdicut  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:42:42pm

re: #749 windsagio

I like Vidal too, but he's a... I don't know how to put it, a technical writer, a craft-writer. I don't get the feeling from him that his writing is very personal, or inspired; it all feels calculated.

To me, Vidal is a minor writer who knows he's a minor writer, which is a painful thing, I think.

755 Mocking Jay  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:42:43pm

re: #750 WindUpBird

Blackened. Don't be dissing Blackened.

756 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:43:18pm

re: #751 ggt

I get the idea that he HATES women.

Maybe! He had a terrible, abusive mother, and he's gay.

he's also a tremendous fiction writer and a tremendous essayist. I don't get caugh up in the foibles of artists I like. Otherwise I would have to throw out most of my albums, most of my art book collection, etc etc

757 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:43:22pm

re: #743 Varek Raith

Duck and cover!

This.

758 Obdicut  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:43:48pm

re: #749 windsagio

Get Ficciones, and start with the best. It'll help you figure out the rest.

759 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:44:10pm

re: #754 Obdicut

I like Vidal too, but he's a... I don't know how to put it, a technical writer, a craft-writer. I don't get the feeling from him that his writing is very personal, or inspired; it all feels calculated.

To me, Vidal is a minor writer who knows he's a minor writer, which is a painful thing, I think.

I liked Live from Golgotha a lot, it didn't feel uninspired. it is very cerebral and snarky though. Dude is like a snark golem.

760 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:45:03pm

re: #753 Walter L. Newton

Ehh, I won't deny it was successful.

Did you ever read David Brin's thing on Lost?

Brutal!

761 Aye Pod  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:45:06pm

re: #724 Obdicut

Calvino is great.

And I'm assuming everyone is acknowledging that Borges is the absolute master of that style of surreal, conspiratorial writing.

Man, that cat had some strange stuff in his head.

I tend to think of Borges stories as the Twilight Zone with a brain. Definitely one of my favourite writers.

[Link: jubal.westnet.com...]

762 What, me worry?  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:45:28pm

re: #752 WindUpBird

I can get with the AC.DC! Talk about a band that only has one song, though. 8-) I still love them. Maximum Overdrive soundtrack forever!

I try arguing that point with Mr. Moon, but it doesn't go over well.

763 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:45:51pm

re: #752 WindUpBird

I can get with the AC.DC! Talk about a band that only has one song, though. 8-)

You can't talk about Molly Hatchet like that! Oh, nevermind, AC-DC? Carry on with the bashing...

/

764 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:46:03pm

re: #759 WindUpBird

I think thats kind of the thing about it. His POV is so bizarrely different from the rest of the US (old-school upper-class). It makes reading it weird sometimes.


I really love him for his essays tho'

765 Obdicut  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:46:08pm

re: #759 WindUpBird

I like his books just fine. I just don't feel blown away by them in the same way I do from Borges, or Bulgakov, or Babel, or Baldwin. And that's just the B's.

766 Mocking Jay  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:46:26pm

re: #757 Slumbering Behemoth

This.

Heh. Nuclear War Theater.

767 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:46:43pm

re: #755 JasonA

Blackened. Don't be dissing Blackened.

I AM DISSING BLACKENED

I dislike that song. The drums are all clicky and reedy, it just feels like it doesn't hold together. I just ugh, don't like it.

My idea of perfect Metallica is Thing That Should Not Be, Orion, Call of Ktulu, Puppets, Creeping Death... maybe One.

768 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:46:54pm

re: #757 Slumbering Behemoth

This.

Ah, classic. Yes, kids, hiding under your desk will make you immune to pressure waves hitting you at 200+km/h!

769 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:47:13pm

re: #767 WindUpBird

Lol, metallica song names.

770 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:47:23pm

re: #762 marjoriemoon

I try arguing that point with Mr. Moon, but it doesn't go over well.

I will say that stuff like She's Got the Jack doesn't sound like normal AC/DC.

You know who has one song? MOTORHEAD.

771 Mocking Jay  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:48:10pm

re: #767 WindUpBird

Harumph!

772 What, me worry?  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:48:22pm

re: #763 ausador

You can't talk about Molly Hatchet like that! Oh, nevermind, AC-DC? Carry on with the bashing...

/

lol another!! But oh... Southern Rock.

I like Neil Young too, so I don't know what to think.

773 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:48:50pm

re: #769 windsagio

Lol, metallica song names.

They're not as wild as Voivod song names!

KORGULL THE EXTERMINATOR

774 Aye Pod  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:49:05pm

re: #742 WindUpBird

He is an arrogant shit, and that's why I like him. I also like Chris Hitchens for the same reason. They call people out and just don't give a shit. Chris Hitchens dissing Falwell after his death was one of my favorite things I have ever heard.

Heh. The following words are forever etched into my brain:

"If you gave him an enema, you could have buried him in a matchbox"

775 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:49:05pm

re: #772 marjoriemoon

lol another!! But oh... Southern Rock.

I like Neil Young too, so I don't know what to think.

DUDE DUDE

You know of the band Clutch, right?

776 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:49:27pm

re: #773 WindUpBird

They're not as wild as Voivod song names!

KORGULL THE EXTERMINATOR

HATREDCOPTER.
;)
:P

777 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:50:05pm

re: #747 Dark_Falcon

Buckley was a superior intellect, and an excellent debater. A true asset to conservatism. I will always hold him in high regard for his work in pushing elements like the Birchers out of the GOP.

778 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:50:32pm

re: #771 JasonA

Harumph!

keep in mind I am into stoner doom metal. So I have massive conformation bias towards the mid tempo grindy Sabbath stuff :D

779 What, me worry?  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:51:27pm

re: #770 WindUpBird

I will say that stuff like She's Got the Jack doesn't sound like normal AC/DC.

LOL Dude, that's my ringtone. There are others, unfortunately, if you listen to the radio, they've only made maybe 3 songs.

Rock is dead.

You know who has one song? MOTORHEAD.

Indeed lol

780 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:51:34pm

re: #772 marjoriemoon

re: #777 Slumbering Behemoth

Speaking of rolling in his grave...

Poor Bill :(

781 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:51:34pm

re: #765 Obdicut

I like his books just fine. I just don't feel blown away by them in the same way I do from Borges, or Bulgakov, or Babel, or Baldwin. And that's just the B's.

You are out of my league, I'm not enough of a reader :D

782 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:51:50pm

re: #761 Jimmah

I tend to think of Borges stories as the Twilight Zone with a brain. Definitely one of my favourite writers.

[Link: jubal.westnet.com...]

I found it on podcast--audio version, it is episode 1. For those that like audio.

783 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:51:55pm

re: #777 Slumbering Behemoth

Buckley was a superior intellect, and an excellent debater. A true asset to conservatism. I will always hold him in high regard for his work in pushing elements like the Birchers out of the GOP.

Me too. His threat to use main force to shut Gore Vidal up was bad, but unlike people like Glen Beck it was a one-off, never to be repeated. Vidal simply goaded Buckley beyond endurance.

784 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:51:56pm

re: #780 windsagio

oops ignore that first re:

785 What, me worry?  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:52:08pm

re: #775 WindUpBird

DUDE DUDE

You know of the band Clutch, right?

lol NO!! Inspire me!

786 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:52:26pm

re: #760 windsagio

Ehh, I won't deny it was successful.

Did you ever read David Brin's thing on Lost?

Brutal!

I've read this before. I don't agree with much of what he says. And I don't have the leisure time tonight to address him point by point. Suffice to say, a number of elements were introduced in Season Five that enable the viewer to answer a lot of Brin's questions themselves. This is a six year long movie, certain things about the "world" that these characters are moving in self-explains themselves. The two characters, Jacob and his Nemesis are enough for any viewer to realize that these two capricious "beings" are capable of creating any sort of "problem" for the characters.

787 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:52:27pm

re: #779 marjoriemoon

Indeed lol

ROCK IS NOT DEAD

788 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:53:20pm

re: #786 Walter L. Newton

I don't know enough to really debate you, so I'm just carrying on :p


thats why I have no content to throw at you >>

Its fun to hear people that truly love something speak tho :)

789 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:54:12pm

re: #785 marjoriemoon

lol NO!! Inspire me!

Consider yourself gleefully initiated into the world of Clutch :D

790 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:54:29pm

re: #772 marjoriemoon

lol another!! But oh... Southern Rock.

I like Neil Young too, so I don't know what to think.

I would literally go for days without pulling my 8-track of the "Flirtin with diaster" album out of the player in my old Mach-I. Ahh, the good old days?

791 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:54:48pm

re: #767 WindUpBird

My idea of perfect Metallica is Thing That Should Not Be, Orion, Call of Ktulu, Puppets, Creeping Death... maybe One.

:grumble grumble:

792 Obdicut  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:55:12pm

re: #781 WindUpBird

Nobody believes how fast I read.

I've read about a book a day every day since I was about eight. I reread books all the time, too. I've read some of my favorites, like Cryptonomicon or The Master and Margarita, more than twenty times.

I work at a company that makes educational toys for children. I wish like hell I understood how I was reading so fast. My parents, when I was young, didn't believe I really was reading that fast-- thought I was just showing off-- and they used to take the books away and quiz me on them. I think that provoked me into developing an excellent textual memory. But I have no clue what I do differently than anyone else, and I wish we could figure it out.

793 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:55:13pm

re: #791 Slumbering Behemoth

:grumble grumble:

Heh!

794 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:55:13pm

re: #786 Walter L. Newton

Lost is one of those shows that I sorta missed when it started, but I want to just get on DVD and mainline. Same with the show Fringe.

795 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:55:39pm

re: #789 WindUpBird

I like Clutch okay (not my style really) but "Profits of Doom" is a FREAKING GENIUS song name!

796 Obdicut  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:56:09pm

re: #786 Walter L. Newton

It's a case of dual-deus-ex-machina, much like Carnival was.

I liked that show a lot.

797 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:56:14pm

re: #786 Walter L. Newton

I've read this before. I don't agree with much of what he says. And I don't have the leisure time tonight to address him point by point. Suffice to say, a number of elements were introduced in Season Five that enable the viewer to answer a lot of Brin's questions themselves. This is a six year long movie, certain things about the "world" that these characters are moving in self-explains themselves. The two characters, Jacob and his Nemesis are enough for any viewer to realize that these two capricious "beings" are capable of creating any sort of "problem" for the characters.

Call Jacob the ultimate "god in the machine" device, except for the fact that he was not introduced suddenly as some way to simply explain a lot of what happened. he was a know but unseen character 4 years ago, and an integral part of the story all along. We are only now partly understanding the complex game that is being played, and our plane crash survivors are pieces in a cosmic game of one-up-manship.

798 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:56:21pm

re: #791 Slumbering Behemoth

Dude, so true! I got into ARGUMENTS with friends over how Cthulhu was spelled in high school, Metallica versus Lovecraft versus the CoC game, etc etc. Like real arguments, heated and everything!

799 Aye Pod  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:56:27pm

The Book of Sand, arranged as "an interactive hypertext puzzle" :

[Link: artificeeternity.com...]

800 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:57:09pm

re: #792 Obdicut

Nobody believes how fast I read.

I've read about a book a day every day since I was about eight. I reread books all the time, too. I've read some of my favorites, like Cryptonomicon or The Master and Margarita, more than twenty times.

I work at a company that makes educational toys for children. I wish like hell I understood how I was reading so fast. My parents, when I was young, didn't believe I really was reading that fast-- thought I was just showing off-- and they used to take the books away and quiz me on them. I think that provoked me into developing an excellent textual memory. But I have no clue what I do differently than anyone else, and I wish we could figure it out.

You probably has a brain that can capture many words at once, unlike most of us who have to read word by word, line by line. I ready very fast for a word by word reader, but I can't compare to your type of reading. Supposedly you can learn it, I've tried, but I can't get the same comprehension level--they say I takes practice.

801 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:57:12pm

re: #792 Obdicut

You're the Iain Banks fan, right? I don't read a lot, but he (along with Gibson) is my favorite sci-fi author. CULTURE NOVELS RULE

802 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:57:43pm

re: #780 windsagio

Speaking of rolling in his grave...

Poor Bill :(

Mr. Buckley does not roll in his grave. He stares out from it ominously, with slightly clenched fists.

803 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:58:03pm

re: #790 ausador

I would literally go for days without pulling my 8-track of the "Flirtin with diaster" album out of the player in my old Mach-I. Ahh, the good old days?

You had a Mach-1 mustang? OH DO TELL, I'm jealous. I had a dirtbag yellow firebird in high school. :D

804 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:58:14pm

re: #801 WindUpBird

I still like Classic Clarke and Asimov better. Caves of Steel is the best detective novel ever!

/well not really. Probably the best scifi-detective novel >>

805 Mocking Jay  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:58:16pm

Clutch - Mob Goes Wild

806 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:58:31pm

re: #802 Slumbering Behemoth

Mr. Buckley does not roll in his grave. He stares out from it ominously, with slightly clenched fists.

No, he doesn't clench his fists. He has a content smile because he knows he was right all a long.

807 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:58:34pm

re: #802 Slumbering Behemoth

Oh lord that was awesome!

808 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:58:41pm

re: #802 Slumbering Behemoth

Mr. Buckley does not roll in his grave. He stares out from it ominously, with slightly clenched fists.

William F Buckley waits, dead but dreaming.

809 What, me worry?  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:58:49pm

re: #787 WindUpBird

I should get out more!

810 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:58:55pm

re: #796 Obdicut

It's a case of dual-deus-ex-machina, much like Carnival was.

I liked that show a lot.

Except for the fact that Jacob was a know entity from season two onward. So, we were not just handed a deus-ex-machina in some sort of effort to clean things up. In some sense, this deus-ex-machina was used in just the opposite way then as usually used.

811 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:59:01pm

re: #802 Slumbering Behemoth

Mr. Buckley does not roll in his grave. He stares out from it ominously, with slightly clenched fists.

If I were him, I'd be messing with those 'Ghost Hunter' people.
/Boo! :D

812 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:59:30pm

re: #805 JasonA

Also genius. That song is about Bush, IIRC!

Clutch live is something to behold. I have never seen crazier fucking fans at a show. I saw Sepultura. Clutch fans were more nuts. And at our show, they played "Oregon". I was so happy.

813 Kragar  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:59:32pm

re: #801 WindUpBird

You're the Iain Banks fan, right? I don't read a lot, but he (along with Gibson) is my favorite sci-fi author. CULTURE NOVELS RULE

I wish I had either some of my Gaunt's Ghosts or Ciaphis Cain books here at work right now

814 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 10:59:54pm

re: #813 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I wish I had either some of my Gaunt's Ghosts or Ciaphis Cain books here at work right now

Still at work?
:(

815 Mocking Jay  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:00:28pm

re: #812 WindUpBird

Also genius. That song is about Bush, IIRC!

Clutch live is something to behold. I have never seen crazier fucking fans at a show. I saw Sepultura. Clutch fans were more nuts. And at our show, they played "Oregon". I was so happy.

Condoleeza Rice is nice
But I prefer a-Roni...

:D

816 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:00:47pm

re: #809 marjoriemoon

I should get out more!

There is a revival of stripped down hard rock and metal. it's coming back!

817 What, me worry?  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:00:53pm

re: #790 ausador

I would literally go for days without pulling my 8-track of the "Flirtin with diaster" album out of the player in my old Mach-I. Ahh, the good old days?

All available for your iPod or MP3 player :)

818 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:01:11pm

New thread, my cue to go to sleep.

in bed.

Have a great evening all!

819 Obdicut  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:01:16pm

re: #800 ggt

But everybody really reads many words at a time, not one word at a time. If you take an average reader, show them two paragraphs, tell them to read just the top one, and then quiz them, they'll have information from the second paragraph. It's pretty cool. You're definitely right that that's what I do, and I'm highly conscious of doing so-- maybe it's just that, obstinate mistruster that I am, when they tried to teach me one word at a time I didn't listen, and I'm reading in a more 'natural' way. I don't know.

Here's another fun fact about learning: children conceive of numbers logarithmically before they're taught counting numbers.


re: #801 WindUpBird

Yes, Culture novels rule. I'm actually reading one of his 'straight' fiction books right now, and it's funny to see the same style approaching such a vastly different topic.

820 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:01:20pm

re: #815 JasonA

Condoleeza Rice is nice
But I prefer a-Roni...

:D

YOU SIR

ARE AWESOME

(10001110101 periodic table with a centerpiece of mind)

821 What, me worry?  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:01:20pm

re: #789 WindUpBird

Consider yourself gleefully initiated into the world of Clutch :D


[Video]

That I like. It's more bluesy.

822 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:01:58pm

re: #815 JasonA

Condoleeza Rice is nice
But I prefer a-Roni...

:D

SMACK!

823 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:02:17pm

To bed... got to get caught up on my sleep so I am wide awake on Tuesday for the season six LOST opener.

824 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:02:38pm

re: #819 Obdicut

I was in Scotland when I first heard of Iain Banks, which was rad. Devoured Consider Phlebas, Player of Games, got home and read Wasp Factory, got Excession after it came out. I fucking love that guy, he's so smart and so twisted.

825 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:02:45pm

re: #823 Walter L. Newton

'nite sir, thanks for not destroying me on Lost, you totally could have :)

826 Obdicut  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:02:50pm

re: #810 Walter L. Newton

Everyone in the Greek plays knew that the Deus existed, too. It was the standard.

I don't have any opinion on whether the writers intended the whole arc or didn't. I've only watched part way through season two, and then lost interest.

Did you watch Carnival?

827 Kragar  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:02:55pm

re: #814 Varek Raith

Still at work?
:(

Yup, looking at 2-3 more hours most likely

828 Mocking Jay  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:03:14pm

re: #822 Dark_Falcon

SMACK!

Hey! It's a line from the video I posted!

829 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:03:45pm

re: #821 marjoriemoon

That I like. It's more bluesy.

Clutch has a very rootsey vibe to them, and intensely nerdy and brainy lyrics. They have a semi-concept album about an alternate-universe Civil War where elephants are the preferred cavalry mount. :D

830 Obdicut  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:03:52pm

re: #824 WindUpBird

Cool. I want him to live a long, happy life-- and write about thirty more books.

831 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:03:52pm

re: #826 Obdicut

Everyone in the Greek plays knew that the Deus existed, too. It was the standard.

I don't have any opinion on whether the writers intended the whole arc or didn't. I've only watched part way through season two, and then lost interest.

Did you watch Carnival?

I don't watch any TV... except LOST. I don't find much on TV to be very interesting... except LOST.

832 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:03:59pm

re: #826 Obdicut

Everyone in the Greek plays knew that the Deus existed, too. It was the standard.

I don't have any opinion on whether the writers intended the whole arc or didn't. I've only watched part way through season two, and then lost interest.

Did you watch Carnival?

Carnivale, the HBO show?

833 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:04:07pm

re: #831 Walter L. Newton

I don't watch any TV... except LOST. I don't find much on TV to be very interesting... except LOST.

I promised... to bed.

834 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:04:21pm

re: #831 Walter L. Newton

I don't watch any TV... except LOST. I don't find much on TV to be very interesting... except LOST.

You're like me, except instead of LOST it's the Venture Bros. :D

835 Obdicut  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:04:21pm

re: #831 Walter L. Newton

Well, Carnival is a lot like lost, so it might interest you.

836 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:04:36pm

Huh, is it me, or does Walter, I don't know, like LOST?
/

837 Obdicut  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:04:43pm

re: #832 WindUpBird

Yeah, forgot my 'e'. Thanks.

838 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:05:05pm

re: #834 WindUpBird

now that's a show I'll defend to the death!

839 Mocking Jay  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:06:16pm

re: #838 windsagio

now that's a show I'll defend to the death!

Venture Bros. is worth your life?

840 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:06:19pm

re: #837 Obdicut

Yeah, forgot my 'e'. Thanks.

Are you looking forward to Game of Thrones, the HBO series? I predict it will be son gnarly it will break peoples' TVs in half.

841 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:06:40pm

re: #839 JasonA

Yes, Yes it is.

Easily the best thing on Television.

842 What, me worry?  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:07:08pm

re: #816 WindUpBird

There is a revival of stripped down hard rock and metal. it's coming back!

The stoner doom rock isn't much my thang. I like a heavier bass and/or blues flavor. But I'm glad to hear it coming back. I hear nothing worth listening to on the radio.

843 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:07:32pm

re: #841 windsagio

Yes, Yes it is.

Easily the best thing on Television.

and to bring it home, the Venture Bros reference to Lost was one of the best moments in the show :D

844 Mocking Jay  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:07:39pm

re: #840 WindUpBird

Are you looking forward to Game of Thrones, the HBO series? I predict it will be son gnarly it will break peoples' TVs in half.

Ugh. That and The Pacific are really going to make me miss having cable :(

845 Varek Raith  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:07:41pm

re: #841 windsagio

Yes, Yes it is.

Easily the best thing on Television.

Go Team Venture!!!

846 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:08:01pm

re: #843 WindUpBird

Ehh? I missed that. Probably because I don't know jack for lost :p

847 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:08:13pm

re: #783 Dark_Falcon

Me too. His threat to use main force to shut Gore Vidal up was bad, but unlike people like Glen Beck it was a one-off, never to be repeated. Vidal simply goaded Buckley beyond endurance.

More than that, Buckley deeply regretted having done so, and openly admitted that it was very poor form on his part.

I swear, with JBS at the CPAC, Beck pimping JBS propaganda on his show, Buchanan and the like being lauded on right wing outlets...

... this current trend in the GOP/"conservative" movement is pissing all over his grave. Goldwater's as well. I am a republican that is quite angry with his party's silence on these matters.

848 Obdicut  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:08:42pm

re: #840 WindUpBird

I don't have a TV, so I watch stuff that friends lend me or on Hulu. So short answer, no, I'm not looking forwards to it, but it may wander its way into my purview at some point.

I'll keep an eye out.

Wait... it's not based on Robert Jordan's stuff, is it?

849 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:09:43pm

re: #848 Obdicut

George Martin.

Its a very different kind of fantasy than the standard "High Fantasy spellslinging" fare.

850 Mocking Jay  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:09:55pm

re: #847 Slumbering Behemoth

This is what they have to say about that:

851 Aye Pod  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:10:12pm

re: #819 Obdicut

Yes, Culture novels rule. I'm actually reading one of his 'straight' fiction books right now, and it's funny to see the same style approaching such a vastly different topic.

I'm currently reading "Espedair Street" - (which happens to be within a couple of miles of where I live...lol). I know most of the places he mentions well. Other than that, it's a tad ordinary as Banks goes. I get the feeling he had a TV adaptation in mind when he wrote it.

852 What, me worry?  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:10:42pm

re: #829 WindUpBird

Clutch has a very rootsey vibe to them, and intensely nerdy and brainy lyrics. They have a semi-concept album about an alternate-universe Civil War where elephants are the preferred cavalry mount. :D

Interesting. Hubby will dig that. He's 4 years younger than me :) you'd be surprised what a big spread 4 years is musically.

853 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:10:44pm

re: #842 marjoriemoon

The stoner doom rock isn't much my thang. I like a heavier bass and/or blues flavor. But I'm glad to hear it coming back. I hear nothing worth listening to on the radio.

The only thing I listen to on the radio is the satirical talk show host Phil Hendrie. I get all my music through ceaseless hunting and experimenting on the internet. I bought an eMusic account, and found a bunch of great electronic music (it seems I like downtempo, triphop, dubstep, dark progressive house) that way, I scour metal blogs and amazon lists to discover new stuff along my tastes, pandora, that sort of thing. Radio for music is pretty much worthless.

854 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:10:45pm

re: #798 WindUpBird

Yes, but did you ever get into arguments over how to properly pronounce the name?

855 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:10:58pm

re: #845 Varek Raith

Go Team Venture!!!

Brock: "They do that."

856 Mocking Jay  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:11:03pm

re: #849 windsagio

George Martin.

Its a very different kind of fantasy than the standard "High Fantasy spellslinging" fare.

Those books have some real surprises in them. The wedding still gives me a chill when I think about it...

857 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:11:24pm

re: #854 Slumbering Behemoth

I can answer that:

"Yes".

858 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:11:34pm

re: #854 Slumbering Behemoth

Yes, but did you ever get into arguments over how to properly pronounce the name?

That was part of the argument, actually. One of the cores of it. Ka-TOOL-hoo, versus Ka-THOOLE-hoo.

859 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:11:51pm

re: #857 windsagio

I can answer that:

"Yes".

We're both thinking of Emmett the Crab, aren't we? :D

860 Obdicut  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:12:32pm

re: #849 windsagio

Thank god. Robert Jordan I can't stand.
re: #851 Jimmah

I honestly find his sci-fi more impressive than his 'normal' fiction, in almost every way. He's correctly recognized the biggest possible problem in a post-scarcity society-- ennui and and endless re-examination of the ethics of interference-- and his Culture novels play out wonderfully against that background. And his Minds-- I don't know anyone else who has created such convincing AI personalities.

Meatfucker, I salute you.

861 Mocking Jay  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:12:46pm

re: #858 WindUpBird

That was part of the argument, actually. One of the cores of it. Ka-TOOL-hoo, versus Ka-THOOLE-hoo.

Everyone knows it's the first one. Jeez.

862 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:12:56pm

re: #856 JasonA

The only modern fantasy I can really read are George R. Martin, and Tad Williams. I've grown crotchety or something :p

I can't even enjoy Tolkien anymore, and thats heresy!

re: #859 WindUpBird

Why, yes!

863 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:13:07pm

re: #861 JasonA

die.

864 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:13:46pm

re: #860 Obdicut

Robert Jordan is exhibit A of "What went wrong with Sci-Fi/Fantasy"?

865 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:13:49pm

re: #852 marjoriemoon

Interesting. Hubby will dig that. He's 4 years younger than me :) you'd be surprised what a big spread 4 years is musically.

The album's called Elephant Riders, it's the first thing from Clutch I hard that got me really into them, and it made me think, "This band is incredibly special and it's astonishing that such a strange band that defies categorization has a following." Nowadays, I still believe the former, and I don't believe the latter. Now it's just OBVIOUS that they have a following. They're just so much fun.

866 Mocking Jay  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:13:49pm

re: #863 windsagio

die.

Heh.

867 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:14:30pm

re: #860 Obdicut

Thank god. Robert Jordan I can't stand.
re: #851 Jimmah

I honestly find his sci-fi more impressive than his 'normal' fiction, in almost every way. He's correctly recognized the biggest possible problem in a post-scarcity society-- ennui and and endless re-examination of the ethics of interference-- and his Culture novels play out wonderfully against that background. And his Minds-- I don't know anyone else who has created such convincing AI personalities.

Meatfucker, I salute you.

The ship Minds all have the best names :D

868 Mocking Jay  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:14:45pm

re: #865 WindUpBird

The album's called Elephant Riders, it's the first thing from Clutch I hard that got me really into them, and it made me think, "This band is incredibly special and it's astonishing that such a strange band that defies categorization has a following." Nowadays, I still believe the former, and I don't believe the latter. Now it's just OBVIOUS that they have a following. They're just so much fun.

And they are fantastic live.

869 What, me worry?  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:15:04pm

re: #853 WindUpBird

The only thing I listen to on the radio is the satirical talk show host Phil Hendrie. I get all my music through ceaseless hunting and experimenting on the internet. I bought an eMusic account, and found a bunch of great electronic music (it seems I like downtempo, triphop, dubstep, dark progressive house) that way, I scour metal blogs and amazon lists to discover new stuff along my tastes, pandora, that sort of thing. Radio for music is pretty much worthless.

Indeed and I've noticed they bleep stuff, like bitch and damn which is odd because you hear it on TV all the time. I guess that's a Clear Channel deal. Someone posted an article awhile back here, San Fran article about the loss of good rock on the radio and the Clear Channel takeover.

870 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:15:11pm

re: #863 windsagio

die.

Windupbird has stayed out of this argument for 17 years, he's not getting into it now!

871 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:15:51pm

re: #847 Slumbering Behemoth

More than that, Buckley deeply regretted having done so, and openly admitted that it was very poor form on his part.

I swear, with JBS at the CPAC, Beck pimping JBS propaganda on his show, Buchanan and the like being lauded on right wing outlets...

... this current trend in the GOP/"conservative" movement is pissing all over his grave. Goldwater's as well. I am a republican that is quite angry with his party's silence on these matters.

Buckley was a learned man who assiduously cultivated good manners. The anti-urban, anti-intellectual, in-your-face, strains of the Tea Party movement stand in direct opposition to how Buckley lived and thought. Those attitudes were present in conservatism for some time, but they did not come to the fore until after Buckley's death, so great was his influence and skill.

872 Mocking Jay  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:16:04pm

re: #870 WindUpBird

Windupbird has stayed out of this argument for 17 years, he's not getting into it now!

And you thought healthcare reform could get thorny...

873 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:16:05pm

re: #870 WindUpBird

it is funny how you never forget ;)

874 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:18:12pm

re: #869 marjoriemoon

Indeed and I've noticed they bleep stuff, like bitch and damn which is odd because you hear it on TV all the time. I guess that's a Clear Channel deal. Someone posted an article awhile back here, San Fran article about the loss of good rock on the radio and the Clear Channel takeover.

Clear Channel :(

Homogenous radio = death of radio. They get rid of DJs and automate stations, make it so there's no local programming. it's the Wal-Martization of broadcast radio. There's a sort of effects processor CC uses sometimes that automatically lessens the vocal pauses from radio hosts, so they all sound like they're coked up when they talk. with nod ead air. So the syndicated show is sped up, so they can sell more ads.

875 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:18:26pm

re: #872 JasonA

And you thought healthcare reform could get thorny...

You have no idea :(

876 What, me worry?  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:19:00pm

re: #865 WindUpBird

The album's called Elephant Riders, it's the first thing from Clutch I hard that got me really into them, and it made me think, "This band is incredibly special and it's astonishing that such a strange band that defies categorization has a following." Nowadays, I still believe the former, and I don't believe the latter. Now it's just OBVIOUS that they have a following. They're just so much fun.

Will definitely look for them!

877 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:19:11pm

re: #873 windsagio

it is funny how you never forget ;)

He was one of my best friends, and also one of the most opinionated pricks on earth :D

878 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:19:44pm

re: #877 WindUpBird

haha, I more meant me, it still annoys me all these years later >>

879 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:19:56pm

re: #871 Dark_Falcon

Could not agree more!

880 Aye Pod  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:20:28pm

re: #860 Obdicut

Thank god. Robert Jordan I can't stand.
re: #851 Jimmah

I honestly find his sci-fi more impressive than his 'normal' fiction, in almost every way. He's correctly recognized the biggest possible problem in a post-scarcity society-- ennui and and endless re-examination of the ethics of interference-- and his Culture novels play out wonderfully against that background. And his Minds-- I don't know anyone else who has created such convincing AI personalities.

Meatfucker, I salute you.

Sounds very interesting - I'll have to start reading his sci-fi.

881 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:21:05pm

re: #868 JasonA

And they are fantastic live.

I've seen them twice. Saw them when I was just out of high school, 1994? 1995? They toured with Drown and Prong. I didn't really know who they were at the time, but they impressed me. And I saw them a year or so ago touring for Beale Street to Oblivion.

882 What, me worry?  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:21:13pm

re: #874 WindUpBird

Clear Channel :(

Homogenous radio = death of radio. They get rid of DJs and automate stations, make it so there's no local programming. it's the Wal-Martization of broadcast radio. There's a sort of effects processor CC uses sometimes that automatically lessens the vocal pauses from radio hosts, so they all sound like they're coked up when they talk. with nod ead air. So the syndicated show is sped up, so they can sell more ads.

hehe Wal-Martization of broadcast radio. That be it! Horrifying.

883 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:21:51pm

re: #880 Jimmah

Sounds very interesting - I'll have to start reading his sci-fi.

I could not recommend Banks' Culture novels more highly. I wish I had more time to read just so I could plow through all the ones I haven't read yet.

884 Aye Pod  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:21:54pm

re: #862 windsagio

The only modern fantasy I can really read are George R. Martin, and Tad Williams. I've grown crotchety or something :p

I can't even enjoy Tolkien anymore, and thats heresy

Let's face it, folks - Tolkien is shite.

885 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:22:37pm

re: #862 windsagio

The only modern fantasy I can really read are George R. Martin, and Tad Williams. I've grown crotchety or something :p

I can't even enjoy Tolkien anymore, and thats heresy!

re: #859 WindUpBird

Why, yes!

YOU ARE FORGETTING MISTER MOORCOCK SIR

886 What, me worry?  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:22:43pm

re: #884 Jimmah

Let's face it, folks - Tolkien is shite.

Say wha??? Shirley you jest.

887 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:22:43pm

re: #884 Jimmah

I like to say "He's a Product of his Time".

Its nicer ;)

888 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:23:40pm

re: #885 WindUpBird

Ok, I can read a Crapton of Michael Moorcock.

4 men merged back-to-back waving swords and guns from their 8 arms trying to defeat a wizard in his dimension-travelling tower!!!

889 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:23:49pm

Clutch lyrics:

Pan-amoebic algebra, breed bizarre bacteria, what to do, oh what to do
Africanized killer bees, alabastar dieties, milk from spoons, sip milk from spoons
Within the ruins against the firth
The salamander has given birth
Only red horse rainbows can save us
Let them run wild and asunder
Call the royal guard to let the people in
Flaming arrows by hundreds
Pull the bog man from the peat, stand him up on both his feet
He jigs and reels, he jigs and reels
Infiltrating silver crabs, carry a most scented flag, to their front lines, to their
front lines
Within the ruins
Against the firth
The salamander has given birth
Only red horse rainbows can save us
Let them run wild and asunder
Call the royal guard to let the people in
Flaming arrows by hundreds
And now the salamander
Run to the tower and call up the magus
If he has caused this, we'll tear out his pages
Throw 'im in shackles
And remove his hands

890 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:23:53pm

re: #858 WindUpBird

It's kind of like "tsunami", where the "t" and the "s" are pronounced somewhat separately, but slammed into each other as to sound like one letter.

Cthulhu... The "c" and "t" slammed together as one letter (like saying "cut" without the letter "u"), with a "th" sound slammed right into the back of that.

That's the proper way. Otherwise, no cosmic portals for you.

891 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:24:51pm

re: #886 marjoriemoon

Also, "Don't call me shirley".


/somebody had to do it >>

892 What, me worry?  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:25:06pm

re: #890 Slumbering Behemoth

It's kind of like "tsunami", where the "t" and the "s" are pronounced somewhat separately, but slammed into each other as to sound like one letter.

Cthulhu... The "c" and "t" slammed together as one letter (like saying "cut" without the letter "u"), with a "th" sound slammed right into the back of that.

That's the proper way. Otherwise, no cosmic portals for you.

LOL I have no idea about this conversation but I loved that!

I have to go. Ya'll sleep well.

893 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:25:20pm

re: #890 Slumbering Behemoth

It's kind of like "tsunami", where the "t" and the "s" are pronounced somewhat separately, but slammed into each other as to sound like one letter.

Cthulhu... The "c" and "t" slammed together as one letter (like saying "cut" without the letter "u"), with a "th" sound slammed right into the back of that.

That's the proper way. Otherwise, no cosmic portals for you.

It's probably best I don't blow the dust off the forbidden tomes, yes. I only have so many sanity points left, I'd like to spend them on hallucinogens.

894 What, me worry?  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:25:23pm

re: #891 windsagio

Also, "Don't call me shirley".

/somebody had to do it >>

thank you :)

895 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:25:39pm

re: #889 WindUpBird

[Draws sword and backs away from WindUpBird slowly.]

896 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:25:52pm

re: #891 windsagio

Also, "Don't call me shirley".

/somebody had to do it >>

I just want to say...good luck.

We're all counting on you.

897 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:26:33pm

re: #895 Dark_Falcon

[Draws sword and backs away from WindUpBird slowly.]

Maryland apparently breeds awesome bands :D

898 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:28:11pm

re: #871 Dark_Falcon

Amen, DF, amen. If I could ding you up more than once, I would.

:SB pours a bit of his forty out on the sidewalk for W.F. Buckley:

899 windsagio  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:28:35pm

Ok, I'm out for a while, gotta take a shower and go to the store.

Peaces!

900 Aye Pod  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:30:40pm

re: #886 marjoriemoon

Say wha??? Shirley you jest.

Sort of...lol I think the problem I have with his stuff is that it isn't actually about anything much at the end of the day. Having said that, he did give us a memorable character in Gollum. Oh yes, precious...

901 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 29, 2010 11:31:02pm

re: #893 WindUpBird

You have sanity points left? Show them to me.
:drools:

902 RogueOne  Sat, Jan 30, 2010 4:04:55am

re: #853 WindUpBird

The only thing I listen to on the radio is the satirical talk show host Phil Hendrie. I get all my music through ceaseless hunting and experimenting on the internet. I bought an eMusic account, and found a bunch of great electronic music (it seems I like downtempo, triphop, dubstep, dark progressive house) that way, I scour metal blogs and amazon lists to discover new stuff along my tastes, pandora, that sort of thing. Radio for music is pretty much worthless.

I've always hated the radio so I jumped on the satellite radio bandwagon real early. I barely listen to it anymore either. Thank god for MP3 players.

903 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sat, Jan 30, 2010 7:08:07am

re: #808 WindUpBird

William F Buckley waits, dead but dreaming.

He is the great secret on the island in LOST. They will awaken him and a terror worse than Chthulu will be unleashed on an unsuspecting world.


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