The technoidosphere is buzzing about the fact that Apple’s new iPad doesn’t support Flash. Adobe, being the maker of Flash, is unhappy about this; so unhappy that yesterday they played the porn card.
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Racer X Sat, Jan 30, 2010 1:15:45pm |
What?!?
I can't access porn from an iPad? That does it, I'm not buying one!
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The Sanity Inspector Sat, Jan 30, 2010 1:16:50pm |
The offending screenshot has since been removed from the original site. You think Flash was trying to get the pr0n industry on their side, a la VHS vs Betamax?
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_RememberTonyC Sat, Jan 30, 2010 1:17:42pm |
why did this song come to mind from Avenue Q?
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Virginia Plain Sat, Jan 30, 2010 1:17:58pm |
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MandyManners Sat, Jan 30, 2010 1:23:43pm |
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Varek Raith Sat, Jan 30, 2010 1:24:03pm |
Hmm, what's the reasoning for the Ipad not supporting flash? What about shockwave?
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Jan 30, 2010 1:24:15pm |
Video, and skip technology are bandwidth hogs. Add the porn factor and the networks are simply not up to the job. The ipod had already caused network issues for At&T.
[Link: www.pcworld.com...]
It could very well be that if they include flash, porn on top of all the news video, web cams etc could turn web 2.0 into the digital equivalent of our infamous 404 freeway between the valley and LAX. Who needs that?
Frankly, porn is way too available. I can only speculate how much illegal access there is as in underage views. I have been told by furious parents how difficult it is to keep age appropriate limits on media. I was looking at overall web site statistics and a porn site called tube8 was in the top 5 or maybe 3.
This could be the pragmatics at work. Not some big FU aimed at Adobe.
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_RememberTonyC Sat, Jan 30, 2010 1:24:19pm |
re: #3 Racer X
What?!?
I can't access porn from an iPad? That does it, I'm not buying one!
maybe Steve Jobs will come up with a new app ... "i porn?"
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Varek Raith Sat, Jan 30, 2010 1:24:56pm |
re: #10 _RememberTonyC
maybe Steve Jobs will come up with a new app ... "i porn?"
I'm not going there, way too easy!
:)
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Jan 30, 2010 1:24:58pm |
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_RememberTonyC Sat, Jan 30, 2010 1:25:47pm |
re: #11 Varek Raith
I'm not going there, way too easy!
:)
I almost gave Jobs a racy nickname, but I restrained myself
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_RememberTonyC Sat, Jan 30, 2010 1:26:22pm |
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SixDegrees Sat, Jan 30, 2010 1:26:45pm |
re: #3 Racer X
What?!?
I can't access porn from an iPad? That does it, I'm not buying one!
Someone today said the iPad looked like an iPhone for the elderly.
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MandyManners Sat, Jan 30, 2010 1:27:01pm |
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Jan 30, 2010 1:28:22pm |
This does give the ITouch a whole new meaning.
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_RememberTonyC Sat, Jan 30, 2010 1:28:48pm |
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_RememberTonyC Sat, Jan 30, 2010 1:30:16pm |
re: #15 SixDegrees
Someone today said the iPad looked like an iPhone for the elderly.
when i think of pads for the elderly, i think of "depends"
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MandyManners Sat, Jan 30, 2010 1:30:49pm |
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brookly red Sat, Jan 30, 2010 1:31:33pm |
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keloyd Sat, Jan 30, 2010 1:32:03pm |
The printing press's "killer app" was largely porn, lowbrow content, and anti-Catholic/Protestant propaganda. Historian James Burke has a wood block print showing the Pope and some German protestant agitators, who seem to get a lot of cabbage in their diet, and comically timed flatulence. I REALLY wish I could find a link for that! The thing didn't spread across Europe to print Gutenberg Bibles.
Porn is a large factor in why we have color monitors, high speed bandwidth, and video cards with more than 1/4 megabyte RAM. It is porn that keeps LGF from being a series of cuneiform marks on a set of clay tablets that Charles keeps in his cave.
Still, Steve Jobs was a bit more honest and brazen than I would have ever expected this time. I wonder if he personally signed off on this?
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_RememberTonyC Sat, Jan 30, 2010 1:32:25pm |
re: #20 MandyManners
Two cats fucking?
i know some were offended by the copulating kitties, but I kinda laughed :)
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brookly red Sat, Jan 30, 2010 1:33:57pm |
re: #23 _RememberTonyC
i know some were offended by the copulating kitties, but I kinda laughed :)
the PC term is fraternizing felines, btw...
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wrenchwench Sat, Jan 30, 2010 1:34:21pm |
re: #22 keloyd
It is porn that keeps LGF from being a series of cuneiform marks on a set of clay tablets that Charles keeps in his cave.
U kan haz rotating title?
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SixDegrees Sat, Jan 30, 2010 1:35:23pm |
re: #12 Rightwingconspirator
Can't get a date?
"There is an app for that."
Yeah, but the bandwidth required won't be available until the next model - the MaXiPad.
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_RememberTonyC Sat, Jan 30, 2010 1:35:32pm |
re: #25 brookly red
the PC term is fraternizing felines, btw...
very good .... i wish i was that creative
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MichaelJ Sat, Jan 30, 2010 1:36:34pm |
Flash is a processor hog and extremely buggy on Macs. It will eventually become an outdated irrelevant technology. YouTube and other sites have already moved away from using Flash for their content and others are sure to follow their lead.
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brookly red Sat, Jan 30, 2010 1:38:53pm |
re: #28 _RememberTonyC
very good ... i wish i was that creative
you used I twice in the same comment...
we keep count you know.
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Jan 30, 2010 1:39:13pm |
re: #29 MichaelJ
Let me guess... Quicktime will dominate all those news sites?
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Varek Raith Sat, Jan 30, 2010 1:39:56pm |
re: #31 Rightwingconspirator
Let me guess... Quicktime will dominate all those news sites?
Yeesh, I like QT as much as I like RealPlayer!
:/
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_RememberTonyC Sat, Jan 30, 2010 1:40:30pm |
re: #30 brookly red
you used I twice in the same comment...
we keep count you know.
true, but i used lower case on the i, so the narcissism factor is reduced by half. new rule
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Jan 30, 2010 1:41:01pm |
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brookly red Sat, Jan 30, 2010 1:41:49pm |
re: #31 Rightwingconspirator
Let me guess... Quicktime will dominate all those news sites?
QuickTime is a very impotent application these days... :)
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brookly red Sat, Jan 30, 2010 1:42:31pm |
re: #33 _RememberTonyC
true, but i used lower case on the i, so the narcissism factor is reduced by half. new rule
@#$@!^& , whatever....
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SixDegrees Sat, Jan 30, 2010 1:42:39pm |
re: #32 Varek Raith
Yeesh, I like QT as much as I like RealPlayer!
:/
Not to mention that those of out here in the Linux wilderness would prefer a non-proprietary solution to delivering animated and video content.
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brucee Sat, Jan 30, 2010 1:45:07pm |
Flash on iPhone/iPod/iPad means people can watch videos free on sites like Hulu or buy the from many many content providers online instead of using iTunes. That means no 30% iTunes tax for Apple so Apple will never allow it.
It's not just limited to music/video as there are all sorts of Flash apps and games out there too which would also be competition to iTunes and Apple really doesn't like the competition.
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keloyd Sat, Jan 30, 2010 1:46:56pm |
I was halfway through college before there was any internet at all beyond government and university websites, even newsgroups. It boggles the mind how easy it is for kids today to get their hands on gentleman's literature. It was a character building experience going through all the cloak and dagger process, using actual cash, storing data in paper form, conspiring with others, going into full psych-ops mode to keep it hidden, the identification and trading of scarce resources. All of these are valuable life skills for adult life. How do kids today learn how to get around the rules and stay out of trouble?
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_RememberTonyC Sat, Jan 30, 2010 1:47:03pm |
the following instructions will not be in the ipad package:
"grab your d*ck and double click"
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MichaelJ Sat, Jan 30, 2010 1:52:38pm |
Here's an interesting piece about flash and Macs
Flash is being replaced by web standards H.264 encoding and HTML5, not QuickTime.
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Jan 30, 2010 1:58:13pm |
re: #41 MichaelJ
That is one very informative link. Thanks.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sat, Jan 30, 2010 2:08:50pm |
re: #29 MichaelJ
Flash is a processor hog and extremely buggy on Macs. It will eventually become an outdated irrelevant technology. YouTube and other sites have already moved away from using Flash for their content and others are sure to follow their lead.
Whut??? That is incorrect. Flash is the foundation for youtube's streaming video player. Go to youtube, right click on a video.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sat, Jan 30, 2010 2:10:43pm |
re: #38 brucee
Flash on iPhone/iPod/iPad means people can watch videos free on sites like Hulu or buy the from many many content providers online instead of using iTunes. That means no 30% iTunes tax for Apple so Apple will never allow it.
It's not just limited to music/video as there are all sorts of Flash apps and games out there too which would also be competition to iTunes and Apple really doesn't like the competition.
Ding ding ding! It's a competitor, exactly.
People want to believe Microsoft is malevolent and Apple is benevolent. it's not the case, Apple is just as interested in making money and shutting out threats to their revenue as any corporation.
Meanwhile, my $300 tablet PC does more than the iPad, and does it more cheaply. Just not with the swank formfactor and the elegance.
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MichaelJ Sat, Jan 30, 2010 2:27:30pm |
re: #45 WindUpBird
Check comment #43 - they haven't completed the transition yet - it is in beta.
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freetoken Sat, Jan 30, 2010 2:40:07pm |
re: #47 MichaelJ
And Vimeo too.
HTML5 will be the standard (in practice, not just on paper), and the old ways are passing...
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Jaerik Sat, Jan 30, 2010 2:51:42pm |
Steve Jobs, along with Google, Microsoft, and just about everyone who isn't Adobe, hates Flash with a passion because it's both ubiquitous and 100% proprietary. They don't want to have to pay Adobe license and development fees for everything they develop, just because it needs Flash.
Apple, Google, and others seem to be pushing for open universal standards like HTML5, WebGL, and Canvas. Microsoft is trying to pull an Adobe with the proprietary Silverlight. But either way, the industry is extremely annoyed with Adobe acting like it owns the internet, and Apple not supporting it is a strategic move towards that end. Whether it's a smart strategy or not, well... we'll have to wait and see.
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Vambo Sat, Jan 30, 2010 3:58:34pm |
LOL! I didn't know there was a "porn card" that could be played. Now I can't "surprise" my friends anymore with cakefarts.com once they get Ipads. BOO!!
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Jan 30, 2010 4:17:47pm |
Inghis,
If I may coax a comment from you?
I don't mind a downding but I am curious why you dinged my post.
What did you disgaree with or object to?
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RubinCompServ Sat, Jan 30, 2010 8:24:12pm |
I hate to say it, but have you looked at the original site?
[Link: theflashblog.com...]
"...I feel I need to set something straight to stop the rampant misrepresentation of this post. Firstly, this is not the official Flash blog of Adobe. I am one of hundreds of employees that blog. Secondly, regarding the screenshot of the adult website, that was added by me in an attempt to be humorous. Not surprisingly Adobe did not find this humorous at all and that is why I removed it. So there is no official Adobe movement to “play the porn card” like some “news” outlets are reporting..."
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