Andrew Young, the aide who helped cover up John Edwards’s affair with Rielle Hunter during the 2008 presidential campaign, discusses his role in the shabby story with George Stephanopoulos.
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Baier Mon, Feb 1, 2010 12:04:57pm |
In a modern context a sycophant is a servile person who, acting in his or her own self-interest, attempts to win favor by flattering one or more influential persons, or by saying lies against a fellow citizen for gaining a kind of profit. These actions are executed at the cost of his or her own personal pride, principles, and peer respect. Such a manner is also called obsequiousness.
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jamesfirecat Mon, Feb 1, 2010 12:08:25pm |
re: #2 Baier
In a modern context a sycophant is a servile person who, acting in his or her own self-interest, attempts to win favor by flattering one or more influential persons, or by saying lies against a fellow citizen for gaining a kind of profit. These actions are executed at the cost of his or her own personal pride, principles, and peer respect. Such a manner is also called obsequiousness.
Why is it spelled with a "P" up front in your link?
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Stanghazi Mon, Feb 1, 2010 12:10:07pm |
Very ugly story. Appropriate that the Enquirer was the one to break it too.
Wonder if they'll be nominated for a Pulitizer?
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RadicalModerate Mon, Feb 1, 2010 12:10:43pm |
re: #3 jamesfirecat
Why is it spelled with a "P" up front in your link?
Freudian slip?
Actually, "psycho" is a pretty apt description for what is being brought to light from the Edwards camp lately.
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Baier Mon, Feb 1, 2010 12:12:28pm |
re: #2 Baier
In a modern context a sycophant is a servile person who, acting in his or her own self-interest, attempts to win favor by flattering one or more influential persons, or by saying lies against a fellow citizen for gaining a kind of profit. These actions are executed at the cost of his or her own personal pride, principles, and peer respect. Such a manner is also called obsequiousness.
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darthstar Mon, Feb 1, 2010 12:13:15pm |
Edwards fucked around...got it. He even lied about it when he was running for president...got it. I wonder if this latest breaking story by George Stephanopoulos will hurt Edward's chances of becoming president in 2008? Seriously...He's not an elected official anymore, and he wasn't an elected official in 2008. John Edwards has as much official relevance right now as Sarah Palin does...maybe he should sleep with her...now THAT would be a story only Fox could ignore.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, Feb 1, 2010 12:14:14pm |
The worst thing I found out about Edwards when all of this was made public is that he's a Dave Matthews Band fan.
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lawhawk Mon, Feb 1, 2010 12:14:52pm |
Nice that the media is busy playing catch up with the Edwards' and their failing marriage, the affair, out-of-wedlock baby, and all the folks who helped try to cover the whole mess up.
Now, would they please go away so I don't have to be reminded of same...their 15 minutes of infamy is up.
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DaddyG Mon, Feb 1, 2010 12:15:03pm |
2008 was enough to make me start voting for the ugliest candidate on the ballot as a matter of principle.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Feb 1, 2010 12:16:06pm |
Why are Edwards' belongings not on the front lawn?
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Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, Feb 1, 2010 12:16:28pm |
re: #10 lawhawk
Nice that the media is busy playing catch up with the Edwards' and their failing marriage, the affair, out-of-wedlock baby, and all the folks who helped try to cover the whole mess up.
Now, would they please go away so I don't have to be reminded of same...their 15 minutes of infamy is up.
Just wait until the sex tape goes online!
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darthstar Mon, Feb 1, 2010 12:16:30pm |
re: #9 Mad Al-Jaffee
The worst thing I found out about Edwards when all of this was made public is that he's a Dave Matthews Band fan.
Dave Matthews - I call his music "Cardi-grunge"...sweater rock. I've seen him a few times at music festivals, and the only time he really rocks is when he gets someone like Carlos Santana or Warren Haynes to join him on stage and add some life to his songs.
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Buck Mon, Feb 1, 2010 12:16:30pm |
Anyone who knew about this scandal, while at the same time helping him run for the presidential candidate, was (IMO) committing a fraud against the American public. I include the wife in that... I know that is not going to be popular... the cancer and everything.... BUT really...
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DaddyG Mon, Feb 1, 2010 12:16:57pm |
re: #10 lawhawk
...their 15 minutes of infamy is up.
15 minutes is an average. Edwards gets 15 months - you and the rest of the plebes get 15 seconds. If you already posted that U-tube video of you pouring mentos into a diet pepsi than yours is up.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Feb 1, 2010 12:17:37pm |
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Feb 1, 2010 12:17:53pm |
re: #18 DaddyG
15 minutes is an average. Edwards gets 15 months - you and the rest of the plebes get 15 seconds. If you already posted that U-tube video of you pouring mentos into a diet pepsi than yours is up.
Without going into details...
I am lucky Youtube did not exist when I was a teenager. I am certain someone would have been filming during my most embarassing moment.
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baier Mon, Feb 1, 2010 12:17:58pm |
re: #11 DaddyG
2008 was enough to make me start voting for the ugliest candidate on the ballot as a matter of principle.
Maybe not ugly, but least neat hair.
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DaddyG Mon, Feb 1, 2010 12:18:17pm |
re: #20 EmmmieG
Without going into details...
I am lucky Youtube did not exist when I was a teenager. I am certain someone would have been filming during my most embarassing moment.
Story time!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Feb 1, 2010 12:18:51pm |
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andydp Mon, Feb 1, 2010 12:19:09pm |
For placing his "faith" in a fallible egomaniac, Mr Youngs is suffering the consequences.
Good review of the book here:
[Link: online.wsj.com...]
Personally I'm waiting for Scooter Libby's book - That should be a corker. I wonder if he'll turn on his old boss...
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Feb 1, 2010 12:19:32pm |
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cliffster Mon, Feb 1, 2010 12:19:38pm |
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Stanghazi Mon, Feb 1, 2010 12:20:38pm |
re: #16 Buck
Anyone who knew about this scandal, while at the same time helping him run for the presidential candidate, was (IMO) committing a fraud against the American public. I include the wife in that... I know that is not going to be popular... the cancer and everything... BUT really...
Oh I agree. My Aunt (in her 80 year old glory) worked for the campaign, as with many others, for free, many many hours. She is so disgusted she cannot put it into words. And that in itself is beyond amazing for my Aunt.
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wrenchwench Mon, Feb 1, 2010 12:20:48pm |
So if you read a book of untrue conspiracy theories (giving cover to the idea that you were scared), and you are making more money than ever in your life, it gets difficult to do the right thing. I hope nobody buys his book.
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shiplord kirel Mon, Feb 1, 2010 12:21:20pm |
So, I guess the ultimate showdown for political hair supremacy between Edwards and Rick Perry is off the agenda for 2012?
Incidentally, no bald man has received a major party presidential nomination since 1956, when there were two (Eisenhower and Stevenson). Maybe it's time to bring back the baldies, youthful hair does not seem to be a rational prerequisite for high office.
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DaddyG Mon, Feb 1, 2010 12:22:47pm |
re: #20 EmmmieG
Without going into details...
I am lucky Youtube did not exist when I was a teenager. I am certain someone would have been filming during my most embarassing moment.
You will like this one Emmmie. My oldest had a "friend" take a pic of her with her camera phone at an all girls slumber party (nothing horrid but an underwear/T-shirt shot). In a perverse sort of complement she used my daughters picture and identity to sext (sex texting) boys. My daughter found out when one of the boys who knew her in HS tried to contact her via facebook and forwarded one of the messages. Fortunately she has a reputation that outshouted the text messages but it was embarassing and hurtful.
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baier Mon, Feb 1, 2010 12:22:54pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Feb 1, 2010 12:23:18pm |
My pastor and his wife (both from NC) were huge supporters of Edwards...
Needless to say, they are both speechless regarding this assclown...
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Feb 1, 2010 12:23:53pm |
re: #30 DaddyG
You will like this one Emmmie. My oldest had a "friend" take a pic of her with her camera phone at an all girls slumber party (nothing horrid but an underwear/T-shirt shot). In a perverse sort of complement she used my daughters picture and identity to sext (sex texting) boys. My daughter found out when one of the boys who knew her in HS tried to contact her via facebook and forwarded one of the messages. Fortunately she has a reputation that outshouted the text messages but it was embarassing and hurtful.
Oof. This is why the teen has the phone without the camera.
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cliffster Mon, Feb 1, 2010 12:24:42pm |
Excerpt:
It was during this drive in his car. I talk about this drive in my BOOK. So we were driving in his car, like I talked about in my BOOK. And I was scared, because, y'know, VINCE FOSTER GETTING KILLED BY BILL CLINTON'S GUYS. So there I was, scared, like I talk about in my BOOK.... did I mention I have a book?
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Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, Feb 1, 2010 12:24:44pm |
re: #29 shiplord kirel
So, I guess the ultimate showdown for political hair supremacy between Edwards and Rick Perry is off the agenda for 2012?
Incidentally, no bald man has received a major party presidential nomination since 1956, when there were two (Eisenhower and Stevenson). Maybe it's time to bring back the baldies, youthful hair does not seem to be a rational prerequisite for high office.
Dana White in 2112!
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Feb 1, 2010 12:24:46pm |
re: #33 darthstar
That's not presidential hair. That's "It's Alive! Those fools will rue the day they laughed at me!" hair.
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Guanxi88 Mon, Feb 1, 2010 12:24:49pm |
re: #22 DaddyG
Story time!
So, there I was, strolling down Boylston. Had on a good quiet jacket, natty tie, dark trousers, with cuffs as worn, carrying my topcoat across my arm. (the gin had warmed me up a bit).
Anywho, on the sidewalk at the corner of Boylston and another street that, on advice of counsel, I will not name, just as I passed the corner of a store there, I felt a sharp blow to my solar plexus, as though I had been sucker-punched.
I staggered back, turned slightly sideways, and directed a punishing kick from my cap-toe walker clad right foot directly toward what ought to have been the aggressor's left knee.
Well, it turned out to be a little person's stomach (thankfully, slightly north of the beltline) with which my foot connected. We had simply bumped into each other at the blind corner, and we were both moving at a high rate of speed.
Flummoxed momentarily, I compose myself enough to notice that the following:
1) A small crowd is gathering
2) This guy's getting up
3) This guy is really, really strong-looking.
I pause, reflect on the best resolution to the matter. Thankfully, gin did not fail me, and I kicked him again before he got up to beat the hell out of me before filing suit and pressing charges.
With the cunning that only liquor and panic can provide, I ran a few block before ducking into a sporting good store. Purchasing a blue hooded sweatshirt which I put over my sports coat, and removing my hat to put the hood up, I was perfectly disguised.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Feb 1, 2010 12:25:07pm |
re: #36 baier
Gotta admit, he has a helluva head of hair...
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Velvet Elvis Mon, Feb 1, 2010 12:25:22pm |
I never liked Edwards, always thought he was a phoney, but I really don't want the details of his affair.
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cliffster Mon, Feb 1, 2010 12:25:35pm |
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lawhawk Mon, Feb 1, 2010 12:26:34pm |
re: #29 shiplord kirel
The winners get to face Trafficant and Blagojevich in the Thunderdome.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Feb 1, 2010 12:27:09pm |
re: #39 Guanxi88
Part of me is really hoping that is a true story.
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Guanxi88 Mon, Feb 1, 2010 12:27:17pm |
re: #43 lawhawk
The winners get to face Trafficant and Blagojevich in the Thunderdome.
Two go in!
One comes out!
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darthstar Mon, Feb 1, 2010 12:27:32pm |
re: #41 Conservative Moonbat
I never liked Edwards, always thought he was a phoney, but I really don't want the details of his affair.
Me either...but when the salacious details of Levi Johnston's book comes out, I admit I'll probably want to give that a read-through. Just so I can understand why Sarah hates (and fears) him so much.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, Feb 1, 2010 12:27:36pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Feb 1, 2010 12:27:43pm |
re: #43 lawhawk
The winners get to face Trafficant and Blagojevich in the Thunderdome.
Three men enter...
No man leave...
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Guanxi88 Mon, Feb 1, 2010 12:27:43pm |
re: #45 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Part of me is really hoping that is a true story.
I've got the police blotter clipping to prove it.
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darthstar Mon, Feb 1, 2010 12:29:07pm |
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DaddyG Mon, Feb 1, 2010 12:29:44pm |
re: #34 EmmmieG
Oof. This is why the teen has the phone without the camera.
The sad part is she's been very responsible with her own image. She does not post anything questionable. I've only had to adviser her on one or two posts that were open for interpretation in the 3 years she's had Facebook and she corrected those right away. With all of the lectures on how to treat social media like a PR firm her "friend" goes and perverts her image in one simple move.
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cliffster Mon, Feb 1, 2010 12:30:40pm |
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RadicalModerate Mon, Feb 1, 2010 12:31:21pm |
re: #29 shiplord kirel
So, I guess the ultimate showdown for political hair supremacy between Edwards and Rick Perry is off the agenda for 2012?
Incidentally, no bald man has received a major party presidential nomination since 1956, when there were two (Eisenhower and Stevenson). Maybe it's time to bring back the baldies, youthful hair does not seem to be a rational prerequisite for high office.
Maybe Gary Hart is due for a comeback?
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darthstar Mon, Feb 1, 2010 12:34:12pm |
re: #51 cliffster
True story...at Xmas when I flew to Seattle, I had a pair of underwear in my jeans which, because I got up too fuckin' early to get to the airport, I hadn't noticed when pulling the jeans out of the dryer and throwing them on. It wasn't until they started hanging out around my left foot as we walked into the ToysRUs store that my wife, her cousin, and two chuckling mothers all saw them at the same time.
So a sock hanging out of the pant-leg is nothing, IMO.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Feb 1, 2010 12:46:41pm |
re: #16 Buck
Anyone who knew about this scandal, while at the same time helping him run for the presidential candidate, was (IMO) committing a fraud against the American public. I include the wife in that... I know that is not going to be popular... the cancer and everything... BUT really...
I'd leave Elizabeth out of this. I don't think anyone who hasn't been there could imagine exactly what that situation would be like.
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Jeff In Ohio Mon, Feb 1, 2010 12:54:41pm |
If I watch the video, will I learn how big John Edward's package is? It's all about the package with me.
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ViewFromHere Mon, Feb 1, 2010 2:18:03pm |
John Edwards never appealed to me enough to seriously consider him a worthy candidate for the presidency. (I have my doubts as to whether I would have voted for him for U.S. Senator had I lived in North Carolina.) As with Bill Clinton, I felt at some visceral but vague level something important was missing from his character, or that he wasn't revealing enough of who he truly was.
Now that the truth is out about his dishonorable behavior and betrayal of his primary family, I hope he and his former friend, Andrew Young, he of questionable ethics and moral foundation, are not heard from again.
People have their flaws; all of us have our flaws. John Edwards character flaw and how it manifested itself in his private life means more because he attempted to convince the American people he was fit, which includes being of significant moral and ethical character, to be President of the United States.
Along with Sarah Palin and many other political operatives, too many of whom exercise considerable political power, I wish John Edwards and Andrew Young would disappear.
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ViewFromHere Mon, Feb 1, 2010 2:21:46pm |
re: #56 RadicalModerate
Why not use head hair or its absence as a viable criteria for worthiness of high public elected office? ;-)
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doubleview Mon, Feb 1, 2010 2:38:39pm |
I still think it's atrocious that the NY Times put a false story about a McCain affair on page 1, yet it (and the rest of the media) completely missed this Edwards morass of nastiness.
You can't see what you aren't looking for, I guess.
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Pacific moderate Mon, Feb 1, 2010 5:16:17pm |
re: #61 ViewFromHereYeah, I was wondering with the talk of Edwards/Palin would start heating up ;-)
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leprechaun Tue, Feb 2, 2010 10:20:39am |
I had a Canadian friend in college who really liked John Edwards during the 2008 primary campaign (before any of the stories came out).
I never took her political opinions seriously ever again.
...That guy was just way too syrupy...Plus any millionaire trial lawyer trying to become President by being a "working-man" populist should be immediately shot by a jury of registered voters for blatant and flagrant hypocrisy and double-talk.
Imho...
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