Does Orly get her hair done in the library?

That is one beautifully inconvenient truth...

re: #1 darthstar

Does Orly get her hair done in the library?

Finger in an outlet, then cover with a bowl and trim.

He's got 39 problems but a number ain't one of them...

No need to worry. Breitbart will bring sanity to the Tea Parties.
/

I don't understand what having 39 Social Security numbers would get you, aside from a heaping truckload of trouble.

Wacky conspiracy theory. Meet fact. History of the SSN. Can you say fail? I knew you could - and yet she'll continue to grace the kookosphere with her special recipe of crazy.

I can still hear her voice even after the video ends.

Actually, a president of the United States has more than 39 problems. There's over 500 problems just occupying desks in the Capitol building.

OMFG! Orly says "It's an issue of massive ford!" I didn't know the president drove an F350.

re: #6 thedopefishlives

I had two for awhile due to a clerical error. last two numbers were transposed.

End result: Some of my contributions went to the wrong person. That's all.

At nine seconds in: "That's irrelevant what I think..." The camera should have been turned off right then.

re: #7 lawhawk

Wacky conspiracy theory. Meet fact. History of the SSN. Can you say fail? I knew you could - and yet she'll continue to grace the kookosphere with her special recipe of crazy.

Facts are no obstacle to the true conspiracy theorist. Take your average Twoofer, who manages to write off the entire 10,000-page NIST report as "government propaganda" without even reading a word of it.

re: #13 thedopefishlives

And Popular Mechanics is in on it too!

These conspiracies are the type that, if they were true, resistance would be useless given how amazingly powerful they'd have to be to pull it all off.

re: #14 Obdicut

And Popular Mechanics is in on it too!

These conspiracies are the type that, if they were true, resistance would be useless given how amazingly powerful they'd have to be to pull it all off.

RESISTANCE IS USELESS!

Lets see my social security number...

Naught, naught, naught, naught, naught, naught, two...

Dam you Rosevelt...

one of them issued over 100 years ago.

So he's an immortal?

THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!!!

(and, crazy lady still crazy)

re: #16 jamesfirecat

Lets see my social security number...

Naught, naught, naught, naught, naught, naught, two...

Dam you Rosevelt...

My social security number's screwed up too! It's supposed to have nine digits, but it's only 4s, 5s, 7s, 9s, and 0s

One of the authors of the Cloward-Piven strategy thinks Glenn Beck is a loon...
Frances Fox Piven's opinion of Glenn Beck

I don't know much about her but she seems pretty reasonable in that clip.

Damned impressive, as the first Social Security numbers were issued in 1936, so he has access to time travel as well, which means he is going to go back and abolish the Bill of Rights before the next elections...

The claim is not that the SSN from Conneticut was issued over a hundred years, rather it was issued in 1977 to a man born in 1890.

That was the claim in the video.

re: #20 ralphieboy

Damned impressive, as the first Social Security numbers were issued in 1936, so he has access to time travel as well, which means he is going to go back and abolish the Bill of Rights before the next elections...

Maybe that;s the secret of the island from Lost. Obama is the Smoke Monster! ACORN is the Dahrma Project!

re: #21 Ericus58

The claim is not that the SSN from Conneticut was issued over a hundred years, rather it was issued in 1977 to a man born in 1890.

That was the claim in the video.

Does she explain why this man born in 1890 waited until he was 87 to pick up a SSN?

In a way, you gotta love Orly.

She's like the entertainment idiot that just never quits. =)

She keeps going..and going...and going...

re: #23 EmmmieG

Does she explain why this man born in 1890 waited until he was 87 to pick up a SSN?

Not in the video, and I hadn't even heard of this claim before it showed up in the thread below.

Some other (old) Orly news--
This does fall into the category of gossip, pretty much, but one of Orly's ex-allies in the Glorious Struggle Against Our Kenyan Overlord now says she's treacherous.
It appears they had an intimate relationship and someone's very very angry about how it ended. Naturally, he blogged about it.
Gawker had the original scoop.

Anyway-- the whole birther movement appears to be, unsurprisingly, infested with teh crazy.

Looks like there might be some truth behind her claim that Palin follows her on Facebook

re: #21 Ericus58

And she claims that he's used 39 SSNs - and she somehow got a hold of Obama's SSN (repeated in the video).

re: #23 EmmmieG

Does she explain why this man born in 1890 waited until he was 87 to pick up a SSN?

Glad you sorted that out, I was starting to think she might have gone a bit crazy...

re: #24 Summer

In a way, you gotta love Orly.

She's like the entertainment idiot that just never quits. =)

She keeps going..and going...and going...

She and Glenn Beck should have a show together, except for that one time Glenn Beck had her on and even he was getting the deer in the headlights expression.

The Female of the species as they say...

She also references Hawaii statute 338-5, making claims about what is required for a COLB. Here's the statute:

Within the time prescribed by the department of health, a certificate of every birth shall be substantially completed and filed with the local agent of the department in the district in which the birth occurred, by the administrator or designated representative of the birthing facility, or physician, or midwife, or other legally authorized person in attendance at the birth; or if not so attended, by one of the parents.

The birth facility shall make available to the department appropriate medical records for the purpose of monitoring compliance with the provisions of this chapter.

Social Security Administration was formed in 1937- less than 100 years ago.

The first SSN was given out in December 1936.

Here's a link of a site that claims info on this with more details - Note: I'm not lending credence to their claims, only linking from a quick search on Bing

[Link: www.westernjournalism.com...]

The social security numbers issue is in the latter half.
They show some rather poor investigative results and yes, they harp about the Birth too.

This is only info, not a position of mine.

re: #30 jamesfirecat

She and Glenn Beck should have a show together, except for that one time Glenn Beck had her on and even he was getting the deer in the headlights expression.

The Female of the species as they say...

Is more crazy than the male?

In any other time, Orly would be held in a mental health facility until she was no longer a danger to herself or others.

re: #26 iceweasel

Some other (old) Orly news--
This does fall into the category of gossip, pretty much, but one of Orly's ex-allies in the Glorious Struggle Against Our Kenyan Overlord now says she's treacherous.
It appears they had an intimate relationship and someone's very very angry about how it ended. Naturally, he blogged about it.
Gawker had the original scoop.

Anyway-- the whole birther movement appears to be, unsurprisingly, infested with teh crazy.

Need...bleach...scrub...brain...

Wow. That article claims that birth certificates cannot be found for not only Obama, but also his mother and his grandparents.

There's only one answer.

He's an alien. He's actually a little green man who uses a Scooby-doo hologram projector to think he's a tall black man.

Birther threads are so much fun. Complete full throttle on the sarcasm.

Can't somebody distract her with a shiny object? Maybe give her Moncton's fake Nobel.

re: #37 EmmmieG

Arghhh...
to make us thinks he's a tall black man.

PIMF

When I was working for the Obama campaign, it was well known that following the invasion of Quebec and the liberation of the French sex workers, Social Security would be abolished. What was not known was that it would be to cover up The Ones-Nine Thirty-Nine (equals Forty-Two..yeah, you see where this is going...).

:::transmission out:::

Maybe we can fight back using using the Orly standard of information, namely make it up as you go. Based on this method I now claim that Orly Taitz is actually the resurrected corpse of Andy Warhol wearing a longer, blond wig.

I might even find a tabloid article to back up my assertion. Take that Andy! Err... I mean Orly!

This makes perfect sense. He's got a social security card for each one of his 39 birth certificates.

re: #6 thedopefishlives

I don't understand what having 39 Social Security numbers would get you, aside from a heaping truckload of trouble.

Maybe he needs them for his secret Kenyan family that lives in the Lincoln bedroom?
/

re: #42 Locker

Maybe we can fight back using using the Orly standard of information, namely make it up as you go. Based on this method I now claim that Orly Taitz is actually the resurrected corpse of Andy Warhol wearing a longer, blond wig.

I might even find a tabloid article to back up my assertion. Take that Andy! Err... I mean Orly!

What makes you think she's making it up? She's getting information from her microwave. It speaks to her regularly.

re: #41 idioma
Missing the sarc tag perhaps?

He probably has a few passports and a couple of visas. Amazing that he knows his real name...

re: #23 EmmmieG

Does she explain why this man born in 1890 waited until he was 87 to pick up a SSN?

I suspect that is not too unusual. My grandfather was born in 1887, became a US citizen in 1921, died in 1969. Never got a SSN. My grandmother, born in 1905, became a US citizen in 1922 when she married my grandfather. Didn't get an SSN until mid-70s.

re: #36 Girth

Need...bleach...scrub...brain...

Yeah, I got to the part about 'what we did in your dentists chair' only after I'd posted the link. That was it for me.

re: #44 The Curmudgeon

This makes perfect sense. He's got a social security card for each one of his 39 birth certificates.

Even the one from Kenya.

re: #46 b_sharp

What makes you think she's making it up? She's getting information from her microwave. It speaks to her regularly.

I'm gonna go out on a limb with the following mathematical postulate:

getting information from one's microwave = making it up

I'm still working on the proof...

re: #41 idioma

If that's supposed to be funny, it's not.

re: #41 idioma

Effing OLD, and effing innappropriate and will be deleted.

Ah didn't know it was actually delete-worthy or I wouldn't have quoted it. My bad.

re: #56 Locker

Ah didn't know it was actually delete-worthy or I wouldn't have quoted it. My bad.

I did the same thing. My apologies.

re: #43 Locker

I get the point of that site, and I understand it's not seriously promoting that claim about Glenn Beck. But I can't agree with tactics like that, so please -- let's not link to it. The whole point of linking to it is to get it picked up in Google searches, and I don't want to help.

re: #52 Locker

I'm gonna go out on a limb with the following mathematical postulate:

getting information from one's microwave = making it up

I'm still working on the proof...

Try a technique that we used frequently in algebra when we were banging our heads against a tough proof and needed to lighten up a little. We called it proof by assertion. An example:

Result: X.

Proof: Clearly, X.

QED

re: #59 Girth

Try a technique that we used frequently in algebra when we were banging our heads against a tough proof and needed to lighten up a little. We called it proof by assertion. An example:

Result: X.

Proof: Clearly, X.

QED

It's self evidently self evident.

This is embarrassing...

re: #58 Charles

I get the point of that site, and I understand it's not seriously promoting that claim about Glenn Beck. But I can't agree with tactics like that, so please -- let's not link to it. The whole point of linking to it is to get it picked up in Google searches, and I don't want to help.

No problem. Honestly I am unfamiliar with that site and it really was blocked by Websense here at work as "Hate and Racism". I should have known, based on the context, and just replied. Sorry man.

@Charles

Sorry, I got this part wrong in my summation of the clip:

Obama has 39 Social Security numbers, according to Taitz, one of them issued over 100 years ago.

In that previous thread EmmieG pointed it out, I re-listened to the clip, and put up a correction comment here:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Here's the relevant sentence:

Taitz: That's the number that was issued in the state of Connecticut, arround 1977, to an elderly individual, born in 1890.

So what she said, that I incorrectly summarized, was the most used SS# of the 39, was issued in 1977 to someone born 120 years ago.

Taitz is an utter nutter. How could this tottering pile of silly ever have been taken seriously by anyone at any time? I don't get it.

re: #59 Girth

Try a technique that we used frequently in algebra when we were banging our heads against a tough proof and needed to lighten up a little. We called it proof by assertion. An example:

Result: X.

Proof: Clearly, X.

QED

Hey my wife uses this one all the time! I'll have to ask her for some tutoring tonight, after work.

ORLY is supposed to be a lawyer (among other things) right? I figured the average lawyer, scumbag or not, would understand the concept of 'Burden of Proof' and wouldn't pull nonsense out of her ass, especially if it's actionable. I think this alone is proof that she's not operating on all thrusters.

re: #27 Killgore Trout

Looks like there might be some truth behind her claim that Palin follows her on Facebook

I didn't find the connection on Facebook. She has about 5000 members, but I searched for "sarah palin" and didn't see her as one.

Palin has about 1,300,000 members and there doesn't seem to be a search available in the members names, nor are they alphabetically listed... so I don't know.

re: #62 Locker

No problem. Honestly I am unfamiliar with that site and it really was blocked by Websense here at work as "Hate and Racism". I should have known, based on the context, and just replied. Sorry man.

She linked the encyclopedia dramatica entry about the site(s), not the parody sites themselves, but ED has a ton of really sketchy content that would definitely make it blocked on a lot of work filters.

Charles's point about the original sites is true though: they exist to get google indexed and perpetrate the smear about Beck.

re: #65 Locker

re: #59 Girth

Try a technique that we used frequently in algebra when we were banging our heads against a tough proof and needed to lighten up a little. We called it proof by assertion. An example:

Result: X.

Proof: Clearly, X.

QED

Hey my wife uses this one all the time! I'll have to ask her for some tutoring tonight, after work.

Find a creationist/IDiot. They're experts.

re: #63 simoom

So what she said, that I incorrectly summarized, was the most used SS# of the 39, was issued in 1977 to someone born 120 years ago.

I caught that, too. I'd say it was a misspeak by The Oily One, but then most everything she says qualifies as a misspeak.

Sarah Palin's other hand:

Image: hand1.jpg

re: #28 lawhawk

And she claims that he's used 39 SSNs - and she somehow got a hold of Obama's SSN (repeated in the video).

She can find 39 SSNs all used by Obama, but can't find Teh Real Nirf Sertifikat?

re: #72 Alouette

She can find 39 SSNs all used by Obama, but can't find Teh Real Nirf Sertifikat?

The SSN's haven't been eated.

re: #65 Locker

Hey my wife uses this one all the time! I'll have to ask her for some tutoring tonight, after work.

There's also a stronger version of this, proof by maximum assertion, where you place more emphasis and condescension on the word clearly.

re: #74 Girth

There's also a stronger version of this, proof by maximum assertion, where you place more emphasis and condescension on the word clearly.

There's also proof by femininity. "I'm the woman, therefore, I am right."

/If you're married or looking to be, you know this one by now

re: #63 simoom

@Charles

Sorry, I got this part wrong in my summation of the clip:

So what she said, that I incorrectly summarized, was the most used SS# of the 39, was issued in 1977 to someone born 120 years ago.

Huh, I heard it the wrong way too when I listened - thanks for noting that, I corrected the post.

re: #75 thedopefishlives

There's also proof by femininity. "I'm the woman, therefore, I am right."

/If you're married or looking to be, you know this one by now

Shhh...you're giving away our seekrits!
:)

re: #64 Jimmah

Taitz is an utter nutter. How could this tottering pile of silly ever have been taken seriously by anyone at any time? I don't get it.

I did find her Facebook page with 5000 followers. I also found about 1/2 a dozen "I hate Orly" sites. One "Orly Taitz is actually Sascha Baron Cohen" and another that says she's Lady Gaga LOL

re: #77 iceweasel

Shhh...you're giving away our seekrits!
:)

What has it gots in its pocketses?

re: #71 Jimmah

Sarah Palin's other hand:

[Link: i238.photobucket.com...]

Lets be fair, she never once mentioned her running for president during that Tea Party Speech... at least I don't thinks he did.

Also I'd have written "Princess" instead of Queen, Sarah seems to give off a perpetual cloud of imaturity.

re: #78 marjoriemoon

I did find her Facebook page with 5000 followers. I also found about 1/2 a dozen "I hate Orly" sites. One "Orly Taitz is actually Sascha Baron Cohen" and another that says she's Lady Gaga LOL

I hope not, I like Lady Gaga.

re: #64 Jimmah

Well for shits and giggles, she's a hoot.

Back when I was a whipper snapper, I loved me some Robert Anton Wilson, it was a good laugh and invited a new way to look at things. Orly's problem is she's going for face time when she needs to be writing books and, um, connecting the dots in an ever expansive way. She really has a lot of potential to hit some metaphorical homeruns if she could just sublimate her ego to her crazy. How can you miss with a name like Orly Taitz? Freak lit or porn queen, this ones got a future.

re: #80 jamesfirecat

Lets be fair, she never once mentioned her running for president during that Tea Party Speech... at least I don't thinks he did.

Also I'd have written "Princess" instead of Queen, Sarah seems to give off a perpetual cloud of imaturity.

My bad that should be

"immaturity"

re: #83 jamesfirecat

My bad that should be

"immaturity"

Prom Queen or Homecoming Princess would work for her just fine.

re: #10 darthstar

OMFG! Orly says "It's an issue of massive ford!" I didn't know the president drove an F350.

If she actually said fnord instead, then there's some more circumstantial evidence that the world really is as insane as I think it is.

re: #84 iceweasel

Ed Wood

...in drag.

re: #36 Girth

Need...bleach...scrub...brain...

Cmon... Who wouldnt hit that like the fist of an angry god?

re: #78 marjoriemoon

I did find her Facebook page with 5000 followers. I also found about 1/2 a dozen "I hate Orly" sites. One "Orly Taitz is actually Sascha Baron Cohen" and another that says she's Lady Gaga LOL

Lady Gaga, no. Lady Gag, well, there's potential there.

re: #78 marjoriemoon

I did find her Facebook page with 5000 followers. I also found about 1/2 a dozen "I hate Orly" sites. One "Orly Taitz is actually Sascha Baron Cohen" and another that says she's Lady Gaga LOL

She almost could be Sascha Baron Cohen...that would be epic...lol

This is where I like to see my wingnut crazies, on youtube. Not speaking at nationally televised engagements, or having Fox News build them a television studio inside their Alaskan home.

re: #85 negativ

Whoa...holy synchronicity Batman, praise be the Saint of Discordianism. Taitz is channeling Robert Anton Wilson!!!

From a Daily Beast article on Taitz from a while back ("Queen of the Birthers"):

Almost as soon as Orly Taitz answered her cellphone, before I could even ask a single question, the leader of the movement determined to disprove President Obama’s American citizenship breathlessly told me the president was “connected” to 39 bogus Social Security numbers, including one for a deceased person born in 1890. “If Obama is not stopped, we will be in Nazi Germany!” Taitz, who has a thick Russian accent, shrieked. “Forgery is a criminal matter and he committed it. Obama should be in the Big House, not the White House!”

That adds a little more detail to her 120 year old SS# conspiracy. I guess it goes something like this: Obama makes serial use of other peoples SS#'s and the one he uses most often, and still uses currently, he stole from a dead person.

Is there anyone that can speak to validity or lack thereof of the claims made by Orly about Obama having multiple social security numbers?

I'm seriously asking. This is an issue and I'd rather not have it left open, but debunked. And no, I'm not asserting anything here other than fact-finding.

The only person I've ever known on a personal level that had multiple SSN's ended up doing time - made life hell.

re: #92 simoom

From a Daily Beast article on Taitz from a while back ("Queen of the Birthers"):

That adds a little more detail to her 120 year old SS# conspiracy. I guess it goes something like this: Obama makes serial use of other peoples SS#'s and the one he uses most often, and still uses currently, he stole from a dead person.

To do WHAT exactly?

Ahamadinejad announced he is going to enrich uranium to 20%, and we're wasting a thread on this dingbat? How about some priorities?

I can see why some posters left/were kicked off LGH. They can post far right, pro life crap like this in their new home:

"the guy that shot that doctor is a hero, i would like to buy him a beer."

I respect a reasonable pro life position, but murder is not pro life.

re: #66 ArchangelMichael

ORLY is supposed to be a lawyer (among other things) right?

I'm amazed she still has a law license while Jack Thompson lost his.

re: #93 Ericus58

The only person who can answer questions about Obama's Social Security number is Obama himself. That being said, I'd assume that if he was working multiple SSN's for whatever reason, he'd have been busted long before now, especially with 39 of them.

Hawaii does not create Birth Certificates that state the place the person was born as Honolulu, when they were not really born there.

In fact they have a rule specifically created to rule out this change of place of birth. HRS 338.020.05 (probably the section she really means)

[Link: www.capitol.hawaii.gov...]

"The new certificate of birth shall show the true or probable foreign country of birth, and that the certificate is not evidence of United States citizenship for the child for whom it is issued or for the adoptive parents"

So the short form copy would not have listed his place of birth as Honolulu.

You might read on some of the sites that Hawaii Revised Statute 338-178 would have allowed that.

Well there is no Hawaii Revised Statute 338-178.

Now there is a section 338.17.8. But it covers certificates for those born out of state, not out of the country, and as per Hawaii Revised Statute 338.20.5 it does not change the Place of Birth.

But even if someone wants to argue about that, it doesn't matter because 338-17.8 didn't exist until 1982.

re: #67 marjoriemoon

I didn't find the connection on Facebook. She has about 5000 members, but I searched for "sarah palin" and didn't see her as one.

Palin has about 1,300,000 members and there doesn't seem to be a search available in the members names, nor are they alphabetically listed... so I don't know.

Hi marjoriemoon! Heh, it appears facebook does list "friends" alphabetically - but by FIRST name! LOL! Who thought that was a good idea? Probably the folks at my local bookstore who think titles should be put on the shelves under "T" if they begin with "The".

;-)

re: #92 simoom

That adds a little more detail to her 120 year old SS# conspiracy.

Ugg, I said it all wrong again! :P

Make that: "That adds a little more detail to her 120 year old's SS# conspiracy."

re: #93 Ericus58

I can not. I also can not debunk the claim he played for the Harlan Globe Trotters and is, in fact, the clone of Meadowlark Lemon.

re: #80 jamesfirecat

Lets be fair, she never once mentioned her running for president during that Tea Party Speech... at least I don't thinks he did.

Also I'd have written "Princess" instead of Queen, Sarah seems to give off a perpetual cloud of imaturity.

I know, but there just wasn't enough room for 'Princess'.

hillbillyreport.org, i think i've found a new favorite site

re: #93 Ericus58

Is there anyone that can speak to validity or lack thereof of the claims made by Orly about Obama having multiple social security numbers?

I'm seriously asking. This is an issue and I'd rather not have it left open, but debunked. And no, I'm not asserting anything here other than fact-finding.

The only person I've ever known on a personal level that had multiple SSN's ended up doing time - made life hell.

You can be damn sure that if there was any truth to it, Hillary and her team would have found it in the primaries.

re: #93 Ericus58

Is there anyone that can speak to validity or lack thereof of the claims made by Orly about Obama having multiple social security numbers?

I'm seriously asking. This is an issue and I'd rather not have it left open, but debunked. And no, I'm not asserting anything here other than fact-finding.

The only person I've ever known on a personal level that had multiple SSN's ended up doing time - made life hell.

Lies? He's a lawyer. They're pretty thorough about checking this stuff out. Someone would have noticed a very long time ago.

re: #93 Ericus58

Is there anyone that can speak to validity or lack thereof of the claims made by Orly about Obama having multiple social security numbers?

I'm seriously asking. This is an issue and I'd rather not have it left open, but debunked. And no, I'm not asserting anything here other than fact-finding.

The only person I've ever known on a personal level that had multiple SSN's ended up doing time - made life hell.

The only sources asserting this criminal behavior on the part of the president are people who have long demonstrated their instability. They are providing no proof of their allegations. Therefore, I see no reason to give this more than a passing thought.

If Orly Taitz said the president was doing crack in the Oval Office, would we need to debunk that?

Is she a guy in drag? That's GOT to be a wig.

re: #93 Ericus58

Is there anyone that can speak to validity or lack thereof of the claims made by Orly about Obama having multiple social security numbers?

I'm seriously asking. This is an issue and I'd rather not have it left open, but debunked. And no, I'm not asserting anything here other than fact-finding.

The only person I've ever known on a personal level that had multiple SSN's ended up doing time - made life hell.

Personally I don't think it's necessary to validate or disprove every piece of garbage that Orly or any other dork spouts out of their ass. Statements like this are obviously false on their face, in my opinion.

re: #107 SanFranciscoZionist

The only sources asserting this criminal behavior on the part of the president are people who have long demonstrated their instability. They are providing no proof of their allegations. Therefore, I see no reason to give this more than a passing thought.

If Orly Taitz said the president was doing crack in the Oval Office, would we need to debunk that?

Ah, the burden of proof to the rescue. Actually, it's a good point: Making an accusation such as Orly's requires proof. We have a standing rule in this country of assuming the affirmative; in other words, innocent until proven guilty. Make the Nirthers pony up with whatever "evidence" they have to demonstrate the validity of their claims. If they can't, they can be dismissed like the conspiracy theorists they are.

re: #95 charles_martel

Feel free to create your own blog and adhere to your own priorities.

re: #93 Ericus58

Is there anyone that can speak to validity or lack thereof of the claims made by Orly about Obama having multiple social security numbers?

I'm seriously asking. This is an issue and I'd rather not have it left open, but debunked. And no, I'm not asserting anything here other than fact-finding.

The only person I've ever known on a personal level that had multiple SSN's ended up doing time - made life hell.

According to the link, they searched multiple spellings of Obama's first name to get that number. Thank goodness they didn't do that with Ford, Bush, or Carter.

re: #106 marjoriemoon

Lies? He's a lawyer. They're pretty thorough about checking this stuff out. Someone would have noticed a very long time ago.

"Micheal she's a Layer, that's Latin for lair!"

G-d I miss Arrested Development...

re: #93 Ericus58

Is there anyone that can speak to validity or lack thereof of the claims made by Orly about Obama having multiple social security numbers?

I'm seriously asking. This is an issue and I'd rather not have it left open, but debunked. And no, I'm not asserting anything here other than fact-finding.

The only person I've ever known on a personal level that had multiple SSN's ended up doing time - made life hell.

You're right. You're just asking questions like Glenn Beck does. Is Obama secretly putting Americans in FEMA concentration camps to harvest their organs for ACORN? It's an issue I'd rather not have left open.

/

re: #95 charles_martel

Nuclear weapons use 85% ²³⁵U. 20% is "usable" but nothing to stop the presses over and panic about since everyone has been expecting this or more for years anyway. This is a "Pope is still catholic and bears still shit in the woods" kind of announcement.

re: #112 avanti

According to the link, they searched multiple spellings of Obama's first name to get that number. Thank goodness they didn't do that with Ford, Bush, or Carter.

So they found thirty-nine guys called Baruch, and decided they were all Obama? Great.

re: #116 SanFranciscoZionist

So they found thirty-nine guys called Baruch, and decided they were all Obama? Great.

Hey, Orly is just asking, you know...
/

re: #114 drcordell

You're right. You're just asking questions like Glenn Beck does. Is Obama secretly putting Americans in FEMA concentration camps to harvest their organs for ACORN? It's an issue I'd rather not have left open.

/

I am not Glenn Beck.
Get a grip.

re: #106 marjoriemoon

Lies? He's a lawyer. They're pretty thorough about checking this stuff out. Someone would have noticed a very long time ago.

I guess he can say he is a lawyer still, but his law license became inactive in 2002. Looks like he only actually practiced as a lawyer from 93-96 (when he was elected State Senator).

(I am not saying anything positive about SSN nonsense, or birther garbage in my comment)

re: #117 webevintage

Hey, Orly is just asking, you know...
/

Jeez Louise.

//I understand he has two children with a black woman too.//

The people cannot be all, & always well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive.

Thomas Jefferson
[Link: www.theatlantic.com...]

re: #109 Locker

Personally I don't think it's necessary to validate or disprove every piece of garbage that Orly or any other dork spouts out of their ass. Statements like this are obviously false on their face, in my opinion.

Especially since the one little fact remains that he already proved he was born in Hawaii. But don't let that stop ya, Orly.

People are born in Hawaii every day. Is it such a remarkable thing to do that we assume the President of the United States is incapable of it?

re: #119 Buck

I guess he can say he is a lawyer still, but his law license became inactive in 2002. Looks like he only actually practiced as a lawyer from 93-96 (when he was elected State Senator).

(I am not saying anything positive about SSN nonsense, or birther garbage in my comment)

In order to pass the bar, they do thorough background checks. If he was using a fake SSN, they would have found it.

re: #118 Ericus58

I am not Glenn Beck.
Get a grip.

I have a firm grip. If you're not Glenn Beck why are you taking a single word that spews from the mouth of Orly Taitz seriously? You want the burden of proof to be on Obama to disprove every turd that Taitz lays? How exactly does Obama go about disproving that he has 100 ssn's? By providing a copy of his SS card, which doesn't disprove the existence of the other 99?

re: #110 thedopefishlives

Ah, the burden of proof to the rescue. Actually, it's a good point: Making an accusation such as Orly's requires proof. We have a standing rule in this country of assuming the affirmative; in other words, innocent until proven guilty. Make the Nirthers pony up with whatever "evidence" they have to demonstrate the validity of their claims. If they can't, they can be dismissed like the conspiracy theorists they are.

Especially after how hard she fell for the Kenyan birth certificate last year. As far as she's concerned, real, ironclad proof of something or GTFO.

re: #115 ArchangelMichael

Well, since the IAEA has stated that Iran has no capabilities to convert that enriched uranium into reactor fuel rods, there is only one other purpose.

re: #116 SanFranciscoZionist

So they found thirty-nine guys called Baruch, and decided they were all Obama? Great.

Yep, they looked for "similar" first names with the Kenyan Omama last name.

re: #124 marjoriemoon

In order to pass the bar, they do thorough background checks. If he was using a fake SSN, they would have found it.

Unless Soros, Ayers and Alinsky greased a few palms to make sure that didn't happen.

//Has anyone explained why the masterminds behind this couldn't find an American-born Manchurian candidate?

re: #124 marjoriemoon

In order to pass the bar, they do thorough background checks. If he was using a fake SSN, they would have found it.

Not only that, but he'd have gone through some pretty thorough background checks when he became a United States Senator in order to get his security clearances. If he'd had 39 SSN's or if he wasn't a natural born citizen of this country, it would have been found out then.

re: #122 marjoriemoon

Especially since the one little fact remains that he already proved he was born in Hawaii. But don't let that stop ya, Orly.

I don't mind folks asking, it usually shows the accusations are even sillier than imagined one the source is uncovered. i.e., the story that Obama is named in the Bible.

re: #66 ArchangelMichael

She's also a dentist (drill, baby, drill)

re: #112 avanti

According to the link, they searched multiple spellings of Obama's first name to get that number. Thank goodness they didn't do that with Ford, Bush, or Carter.

Ah, well, as an amateur genealogist, I can tell you that there are very few names that aren't shared.

Try researching an ancestor named James H. Johnson.

I was wondering if she was just using every possible use of his name. Seems that was right.

re: #126 Girth

Especially after how hard she fell for the Kenyan birth certificate last year.

You mean this one? Yeah. I can see how she'd be fooled. ;)

re: #124 marjoriemoon

In order to pass the bar, they do thorough background checks. If he was using a fake SSN, they would have found it.

OMG!
Don't you get it?
Soros paid for Obama to make it though the background check. Who knows how many people were in on it.
It is not like he actually went to any of his classes or really edited the law review.
111!!!111ELEVENTY
Hell, we can't even be sure he is not an alien cat in a human suit...has anyone actually looked for the zipper?
///

re: #134 Lidane

That set off my "malware detector".

re: #136 RogueOne

Really? Weird. It's just a link to my Photobucket album.

re: #131 avanti

I don't mind folks asking, it usually shows the accusations are even sillier than imagined one the source is uncovered. i.e., the story that Obama is named in the Bible.

Hi avanti! I just had to pass along a story a friend of ours - who was a teacher in Houston at the time - told us. She had a new little girl in her kindergarten class. She asked the girl's name, and she said "Pizzlemiv". Our friend asked what kind of name that was, and the little girl said she'd been named after someone in the Bible.

On parent's night, she asked the girl's parents where the name came from. The mother pulled out her King James version and opened it to a page.

Turns out, they'd named their little girl "Psalm IV".

re: #127 charles_martel

Well, since the IAEA has stated that Iran has no capabilities to convert that enriched uranium into reactor fuel rods, there is only one other purpose.

I wasn't stating that they weren't trying to make a bomb. I was saying that we all know this already, and 20% enrichment is barely useable to make a bomb. It would require a gun-type bomb like Little Boy, but it would have to be probably the size of a volkswagen bus, and would produce a yield less than half of the Hiroshima bomb. (Critical mass for 20% is about 300-400 pounds I think...) Yes this is still bad, but not anything shocking that just came out of left field. Ahmadinejad is just trying to make some noise to get attention and get his mug on CNN.

re: #136 RogueOne

That set off my "malware detector".

Could be a false positive, it's clean on my end. What program do you use?

re: #125 drcordell

I have a firm grip. If you're not Glenn Beck why are you taking a single word that spews from the mouth of Orly Taitz seriously? You want the burden of proof to be on Obama to disprove every turd that Taitz lays? How exactly does Obama go about disproving that he has 100 ssn's? By providing a copy of his SS card, which doesn't disprove the existence of the other 99?

And this is what previous posters have talked about, the reckless smearing of a poster - in this case discussing a thread topic and the claims made by a 3rd party.
Again, I have not advocated the merits of this issue nor was the first to bring it up.
I thought if by discussing the claims and their lack of merit was the best way to debunk them... not by slandering those here at LGF in the process. Stay on target.

Speak to the merits or lack thereof of Orly's claims. Accusing me of channeling Beck doesn't accomplish that.

I saw this over at rightwingwatch.

In an article about the Tea Party Convention in The Independent there are some quotes from Rick Scarborough on the Tancredo speech. Rick heads Vision America, Vision America Action and the Judeo-Christian Council for Constitutional Restoration and based on the convention's schedule, Scarborough conducted an "organized prayer session" and gave a convention speech on "Why Christians Must Engage".

Here's what he had to say about the Tancredo speech:

Among the first keynote speakers yesterday, meanwhile, was Rick Scarborough, the pastor and firebrand founder of Vision America, which had its own stall here yesterday laden with books he has written, among them Liberalism Kills Kids. He also wanted to discuss the Tancredo speech which he apparently liked very much. "I didn't hear racism," he told this reporter, before spelling out his worries. "America is a country of legal immigrants but the Left has turned it into a country of invaders," he offered bluntly. "Look at Europe and the rampant invasion of England. They are practising Sharia law and I think this crew is going to fight that." Mr Scarborough also outlines how the US is a "special country" – more than any other in the world – and that is how God intended it. He adds: "If we are to become 30 per cent Hispanic we will no longer be America." (And therefore no longer special.) "That would be a bad thing."

Emphasis added by me.

4-5 people in this thread that desperately want to admit they're birthers >>

re: #141 Ericus58

And this is what previous posters have talked about, the reckless smearing of a poster - in this case discussing a thread topic and the claims made by a 3rd party.
Again, I have not advocated the merits of this issue nor was the first to bring it up.
I thought if by discussing the claims and their lack of merit was the best way to debunk them... not by slandering those here at LGF in the process. Stay on target.

Speak to the merits or lack thereof of Orly's claims. Accusing me of channeling Beck doesn't accomplish that.

Speak to the merits or lack thereof of Orly's claims? There is no merit to her claim because it is completely and utterly absurd. She has presented absolutely no evidence proving that Obama has 100 SSN's. And furthermore, her credibility has been completely destroyed after she fell for that faked Kenyan birth certificate. This entire exercise is a joke. Taitz deserves nothing other than scorn and ridicule.

re: #142 simoom

I saw this over at rightwingwatch.

In an article about the Tea Party Convention in The Independent there are some quotes from Rick Scarborough on the Tancredo speech. Rick heads Vision America, Vision America Action and the Judeo-Christian Council for Constitutional Restoration and based on the convention's schedule, Scarborough conducted an "organized prayer session" and gave a convention speech on "Why Christians Must Engage".

Here's what he had to say about the Tancredo speech:

Emphasis added by me.

How the fuck is Europe praticing Sharia law? Didn't we just have the entire thing where they can't even build minarets on mosques in Switzerland anymore?

re: #142 simoom

Judeo-Christian Council for Constitutional Restoration

/That doesn't sound creepy at all.

re: #47 Rightwingconspirator

Missing the sarc tag perhaps?

That website is obviously satire. I don't know why the comment should be deleted.

re: #146 Girth

Judeo-Christian Council for Constitutional Restoration

/That doesn't sound creepy at all.

According to the Wikipedia article on Rick:

Scarborough believes that the tenets of fundamentalist Christian morality apply to civic affairs. He was quoted on Christiane Amanpour's documentary series "God's Christian Warriors" on CNN as saying, "I'm not a Democrat, I'm not a Republican. I'm a Christocrat."

re: #140 Varek Raith

Could be a false positive, it's clean on my end. What program do you use?

I don't, at least not on this laptop. I'm using google chrome and it looks like it's a google warning.

The website at smg.photobucket.com contains elements from the site asderweq.com, which appears to host malware – software that can hurt your computer or otherwise operate without your consent. Just visiting a site that contains malware can infect your computer.
For detailed information about the problems with these elements, visit the Google Safe Browsing diagnostic page for asderweq.com.
Learn more about how to protect yourself from harmful software online.

re: #147 idioma

Downding for acting like you're clueless.

re: #149 RogueOne

That could be an ad containing the malware; does photobucket use ads?

re: #147 idioma

Satire defense is exactly what Beck/Rush uses.

They're satirically using the satire defense. Great. I was there on Fark when it was born; bad idea then, bad idea now.

re: #151 Obdicut

That could be an ad containing the malware; does photobucket use ads?

Good question. I don't know, since I use Firefox and have both NoScript and Adblock Plus up and running at all times. I never see or notice any ads unless I allow it.

re: #153 Lidane

Good question. I don't know, since I use Firefox and have both NoScript and Adblock Plus up and running at all times. I never see or notice any ads unless I allow it.

Same here.

re: #148 simoom

"Christocrat" Wow... I have no clever jokes... just... wow...

re: #153 Lidane

I see those prompts most often when I'm going to a site with lots of ads. Rogue, photobucket customer service might appreciate an email with the details.

re: #156 Obdicut

IIRC it seems there was another site I had the same issue with awhile ago. I just clicked the little box "let me in" or whatever and ignored it.

re: #155 jamesfirecat

The convention organizers seemed to be concerned with not being caricatured as kooks and extremists, which made their lineup of speakers especially odd.

re: #142 simoom

Your emphasized quote,

"If we are to become 30 per cent Hispanic we will no longer be America."

makes me angry. New Mexico is over 40% Hispanic, and we haven't been kicked out of America yet. My county is over 60% Hispanic, and believe me, this is America.

re: #159 wrenchwench

Your emphasized quote,

makes me angry. New Mexico is over 40% Hispanic, and we haven't been kicked out of America yet. My county is over 60% Hispanic, and believe me, this is America.

As a Texan, I cannot but agree with you. If the Hispanic element spelled the end of a land, it'd surely be difficult to explain why NM & Texas are both fine places to make Americans.

Baier since we've been asked to take our disagreement over to this less "hallowed" ground, could you provide me with a quote of the time I said that I'd been closely following the last Presidential election?

I'm not saying its impossible that I said it, I just don't remeber saying it...

re: #68 iceweasel

She linked the encyclopedia dramatica entry about the site(s), not the parody sites themselves, but ED has a ton of really sketchy content that would definitely make it blocked on a lot of work filters.

Charles's point about the original sites is true though: they exist to get google indexed and perpetrate the smear about Beck.

You mean that smear is not true??

re: #8 Killgore Trout

I can still hear her voice even after the video ends.

It's something like Natasha's (of Rocky and Bullwinkle) I believe.

I'd hit it.

When I first saw a picture of Orly Taintz, I thought "wow! she looks like a fun and campy new talk show sex therapist".

What a disappointment.

Orly has been pushing the 39 social security number madness for months now. Apparently she got a Scotland Yard investigator, Neil Sankey to investigate the issue and he turned up 39 people with similar names to Obama and Orly is convinced that all of them are Barack Obama. Among the names she claims he has used are: Barbara, Baraq, Barake, Barak, Barak Quincy, Barrack, Barrok, Barry M, Batock, Benedicto, Bertrand H, Bertrand H Obang, Bertrand O, Betty, Billy, Binlad Sr, Bob, Borack, Borak, Brack, Brianna, and Burak.

39!? O RLY!?

And I don't even have one!

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=orly

re: #159 wrenchwench

Your emphasized quote,

makes me angry. New Mexico is over 40% Hispanic, and we haven't been kicked out of America yet. My county is over 60% Hispanic, and believe me, this is America.

A matter of definition, to these guys "America" means "A legendary land of my childhood memory with small towns, white-picket fences, nickel Cokes and hard-working white people".

That country is already lost.