Tech Note: Retweet Revamp Redux

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Following up on yesterday’s post about our shocking (albeit unintentional) abuse of the bit.ly API, I emailed my contact at bit.ly and let him know about the changes in the LGF Blog code, and got this reply:

Thanks! The number of /shorten requests from your account has fallen dramatically. You’re fine with /stats calls for now, but keep an eye on our API list (groups.google.com…) as we’ll be releasing a new version of that endpoint soon.

So we’re good for now, and there’s no risk of a [gasp] suspended account.

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382 comments
1 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 3:43:19pm

Nice work. You do good IT voodoo. And BTW loved the beautiful video of the mountains with the haunting songtrack.

2 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 3:50:40pm

A fresh, unsullied page--ummmmm.

3 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 3:50:47pm

wow i didn't understand a word of that.....i recognise most of the words,but put together like that....

In English, McGee.....
Leroy Jethro Gibbs

4 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 3:52:38pm

Oh charles,just noticed that "Frank says" is back.
Exellent!

5 PhillyPretzel  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:02:10pm

re: #3 Boondock St. Bender

As a fan of NCIS I know the charactors and yes he does say that quite a bit.

6 Bagua  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:06:35pm

As a follow-up to my tech note last night:

Remember, when handling a newly purchased quad-core CPU, be very careful not to bend the fucking pins or slop thermal grease onto the bent pins. Both are hellacious errors.

The pins have now been straightened with the use of a 3penny nail, and reading glasses and magnifying glass used in combination. The rows are further straightened with a credit card used as a comb.

Wash the greasy pins with liberal amounts of rubbing alcohol, taking care not to soak the CPU itself, which is of course, quite impossible.

When mounting the now salvaged CPU onto the motherboard, take care to wiggle it about and ease it in, while wishing and hoping that it doesn't bend the pins again.

7 tradewind  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:06:57pm

re: #3 Boondock St. Bender
It's been said many times, but still true... ' We're Not Worthy'.

8 Varek Raith  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:07:56pm

re: #6 Bagua

Ouch... Is it working ok?

9 TampaKnight  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:12:06pm

My tech note: my Ipod died as soon as I got to the gym. Killed my workout!

10 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:12:35pm

re: #5 PhillyPretzel

I love that show!

11 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:14:22pm

re: #6 Bagua

Did last nights LOST episode hurt your head... it hurt mine.

12 Varek Raith  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:15:22pm

re: #11 Walter L. Newton

Did last nights LOST episode hurt your head... it hurt mine.

In a good or bad way?

13 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:15:35pm

re: #6 Bagua

As a follow-up to my tech note last night:

...snip...

When mounting the now salvaged CPU onto the motherboard, take care to wiggle it about and ease it in, while wishing and hoping that it doesn't bend the pins again.

Have you powered it up yet? After such repair, I always tense up on the rocker, as though I can snap it back off faster than the speed of light.

14 PhillyPretzel  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:15:35pm

It is one of the few shows I watch on TV. Most of the shows I watch are on PBS. Those cooking shows are great.

15 Irenicum  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:16:07pm

Ah the burden of having an incredibly popular website. I stand amazed at the technical know how behind this site. There's nothing else like it!

16 Varek Raith  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:17:25pm

re: #15 Irenicum

Ah the burden of having an incredibly popular website. I stand amazed at the technical know how behind this site. There's nothing else like it!

Wait...I thought we were 'irrelevant'...???
///

17 Irenicum  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:17:44pm

I'm a big Better Off Ted fan and stupid ABC is canceling it. Numbnuts!

18 torrentprime  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:18:41pm

re: #17 Irenicum

I'm a big Better Off Ted fan and stupid ABC is canceling it. Numbnuts!

I freaking *love* that show, and I knew it's been on life support for awhile now. So bummed!

19 tradewind  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:20:04pm

re: #11 Walter L. Newton
No, but Claire's appearance in the preview made me wince. And I don't like English-hating-dude. And someone get that corpse off the beach, dammit....

20 Irenicum  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:20:51pm

re: #16 Varek Raith

Heh. I thought of that too when I was writing it. Irrelevant! Ha!

21 tradewind  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:22:42pm

re: #18 torrentprime
It had its moments, but it would just get soo off track...
I can only laugh at one comedy this season, Modern Family. It's freaking hilarious.
But I can sympathize. Every show that I get really attached to, except for Lost, pretty much has gotten the axe. It's infuriating.
Not for nothing is it called ABC.
/Already Been Cancelled/

22 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:23:20pm

re: #16 Varek Raith

Wait...I thought we were 'irrelevant'...???
///

re: #20 Irenicum

I thought the LGF recruiter said "Irreverent". Might as well flounce, then.

23 Irenicum  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:23:33pm

re: #18 torrentprime

Season 1 is available on DVD. I am SO buying that!

24 Obdicut  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:23:39pm

re: #13 Decatur Deb

When I built my computer recently, I forgot that moving types of motherboard would mean I needed a new heatsink/fan. So for awhile I had a powerful new computer that I couldn't do anything other than web-browsing with, because it'd get way too hot.

Like having a car with no tires.

25 torrentprime  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:25:24pm

re: #21 tradewind

It had its moments, but it would just get soo off track...
I can only laugh at one comedy this season, Modern Family. It's freaking hilarious.
But I can sympathize. Every show that I get really attached to, except for Lost, pretty much has gotten the axe. It's infuriating.
Not for nothing is it called ABC.
/Already Been Cancelled/

Much love for Modern Family. I watched it with some friends last week (including an ex-Marine whose tolerance for "gay stuff" on TV is a little low), but after watching Al Bundy bump into a stranger (from behind) in a locker room a few times, he declared it his new favorite show.

26 Bagua  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:25:43pm

re: #8 Varek Raith

Ouch... Is it working ok?

Having soaked the CPU in unknown quantities of alcohol, it will now be allowed to air out for several days before powering up, and no doubt frying the Motherboard and CPU, doubling the cost of this fiasco and forcing your friendly neighbourhood Bagua to use a primitive Dual-Core CPU at his Secret Bat Cave.

27 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:25:48pm

re: #24 Obdicut

Number 2 son is always talking water-cooled chips, but he has steampunk tendencies. If only this energy could be harnessed for the good of mankind.....

28 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:28:26pm

re: #26 Bagua

Is there no discussion of a similar situation on the intertubes? US Navy used to have a lot of info on salvaging battle-damaged electronics, mostly centered on salt-water immersion.

29 Bagua  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:29:38pm

re: #11 Walter L. Newton

Did last nights LOST episode hurt your head... it hurt mine.

That is a sore subject as I completely forgot about the episode, not watching TV for the last decade or so has apparently impacted my ability to follow Lost in situ, as opposed to waiting for the DVD to hit Blockbusters.

I hang my head in shame, but promise to watch it on my PC so we can chat about it.

30 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:34:07pm

re: #29 Bagua

You can watch lost online at Hulu. It's a legal site and the commercial breaks are very short (about 30 seconds). You can also go back and watch old episodes or rewind/ fast forward.

31 Bagua  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:34:55pm

re: #28 Decatur Deb

Is there no discussion of a similar situation on the intertubes? US Navy used to have a lot of info on salvaging battle-damaged electronics, mostly centered on salt-water immersion.

Yes indeed, with the best suggestion being to purchase a mechanical pencil, remove the lead, then use the hollow tube at the tip to catch the errant pins, followed by the credit card trick.

Being both lazy and old-school, I used a 3 penny nail instead of the pencil, but did use the credit card.

32 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:35:02pm

re: #30 Killgore Trout

You can watch lost online at Hulu. It's a legal site and the commercial breaks are very short (about 30 seconds). You can also go back and watch old episodes or rewind/ fast forward.

Ah, I just noticed they have the enhanced versions of recent episodes too.

33 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:35:10pm

re: #12 Varek Raith

In a good or bad way?

Good way... the writers have actually repositioned every character in this show, both personality wise, "mission" wise and importance wise. It's like the same "pictures" are on the jigsaw pieces but the puzzle has now been recut, the edges are different.

Everything we that we learned and was revealed to us about the characters, the Island and the "game" that has been being played doesn't inform us anymore... it's a whole new plot arc, without making the last five years worth of plot mute. It's very clever writing.

Does that make sense? Or did I hurt your head.

re: #19 tradewind

No, but Claire's appearance in the preview made me wince. And I don't like English-hating-dude. And someone get that corpse off the beach, dammit...

You see what's happening, the "universe" has course corrected. The survivors did change things, but, what ever the "universe" needs, it gets. Claire is the new substitute for Danielle, who may now never had existed, since the time line was changed.

Another course correction. It was Ethan, on the Island who grab Claire and was involved in delivering the baby. SInce the survivors changed the time line, Ethan is still part of bringing AAron into the world. They changed things yet the "universe" is course correcting.

That's what Mrs. Hawking said in season 4... you cannot change the future, the universe will always course correct.

Once again, I say, very clever writing.

34 Bagua  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:36:17pm

re: #30 Killgore Trout

Thanks, would you recommend HULU over the ABC site? I've never tried this before.

35 Digital Display  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:36:41pm

re: #9 TampaKnight

My tech note: my Ipod died as soon as I got to the gym. Killed my workout!

Am I the only person left in the world that doesn't run or work out to music?
It distracts me.. I'm the only guy aren't I?

36 Bagua  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:38:09pm

re: #33 Walter L. Newton

Are you discussing last nights episode? (I have my prophylactic gaze on.)

37 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:38:11pm

re: #31 Bagua

Yes indeed, with the best suggestion being to purchase a mechanical pencil, remove the lead, then use the hollow tube at the tip to catch the errant pins, followed by the credit card trick.

Being both lazy and old-school, I used a 3 penny nail instead of the pencil, but did use the credit card.

I think you've probably got the pins corraled. Thought there might be something more safe/effective to remove the goo.

38 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:38:36pm

re: #35 HoosierHoops

Running...music
lifting...the sound of the weights...lol

39 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:38:40pm

re: #35 HoosierHoops

Am I the only person left in the world that doesn't run or work out to music?
It distracts me.. I'm the only guy aren't I?

I don't.

40 torrentprime  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:39:18pm

re: #34 Bagua

Thanks, would you recommend HULU over the ABC site? I've never tried this before.

IMHO, Hulu rocks. Decent UI, too.

41 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:39:49pm

re: #36 Bagua

Are you discussing last nights episode? (I have my prophylactic gaze on.)

The second part of my comment above was episode specific. And so was Tradewind's comment. I'll keep spoilers out of my discussion for now.

42 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:40:20pm

OT, but I noticed a lot of confusion amongst lizards on a certain point on the climate thread, and I would like to clear it up in a place where others will see it.

This issue is one of weather predicting AGW or being an indicator of it or as evidence for it one way or the other.

So first off, it is absolutely correct that weather is not climate and that individual weather events in of themselves do not constitute proof for or against AGW. There are simply too many confounding factors when talking about an individual event.

However, climate science is about the trends.

We predict that there will be more and more storms of greater magnitude for a period. We can not predict that there will be such and such a storm on such and such a day, however, we know for a fact that there are going to be more and bigger ones over the long term.

The fact that for a period of time, the north east would have harsher winters due to the warming shifting ocean currents has been predicted for some years and has been discussed here by me and others many times. This is not new.

The science behind it as a trend is actually simple. Warmer water means mope water vapor. More water vapor in the air means more intense storms when bodies of hot and cold air collide. Shifting currents means more warm water amongst many other things.

The analogy is like cigarettes and lung cancer. Someone who smoked as an individual, may have gotten cancer from something else. There are too many confounding factors when you talk about an individual case. However, over the trend of looking at many smokers, it becomes clear that the there will be more cancer. The science there is simple too. Cigarettes have many chemicals in them that cause mutations. the mutations accumulate and the more one smokes the more chance one has for a cancerous mutation.

So again, there are more hurricanes and blizzards as a trend. They are more intense and more frequent and the winters in the Eastern US will get colder overall for a time. This is what was predicted, and this is what we are seeing.

43 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:40:30pm

re: #34 Bagua

I like hulu because they have other shows from other networks too. The ABC site looks nice and the commercials aren't too bad.

44 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:41:10pm

re: #35 HoosierHoops

We used to debate that at MA class. It seemed okay for drills, but a distraction anywhere else. Now when I was a student, there was no walkman etc. We played a boom box.

Then I started teaching at the Moro Landis and Debbie Reynolds dance studios. Every class room had the sprung wood dancers floor, mirrored walls, stretch rails and a killer stereo. So for drills we would boom the music. Then came sparring and technical sessions. No music allowed then. We have no Kata in my style, the old school theory forbids music for that.

45 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:41:11pm

re: #35 HoosierHoops

Am I the only person left in the world that doesn't run or work out to music?
It distracts me.. I'm the only guy aren't I?

Unless you have a very closed area for running, I'd vote against headsets. Runners really need their senses for traffic, animals, and other threats. Army pushed this idea to the edge of regulation. (Not that my daughter listens.)

46 torrentprime  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:41:25pm

re: #35 HoosierHoops

Am I the only person left in the world that doesn't run or work out to music?
It distracts me.. I'm the only guy aren't I?

I can't face the treadmill or any cardio without some banging techno or a book on tape. Too boring otherwise. I can lift without music, but it's more fun with.

47 Bagua  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:41:28pm

re: #37 Decatur Deb

I think you've probably got the pins corraled. Thought there might be something more safe/effective to remove the goo.

Agreed, in retrospect it would have been better to stand the unit in a bit of solvent not past the pins, and not risk soaking the chips.

48 Digital Display  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:41:45pm

re: #39 Walter L. Newton

I don't.

Me too...I just hate it.. I have a wicked sound system in the car.. I kick back and turn it to 11...Maybe I've broken windows driving down the road.. But you can't prove it..*wink*

49 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:42:03pm

re: #42 LudwigVanQuixote

Excellent analogy on the smokers there Ludwig.

50 Bagua  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:42:47pm

re: #41 Walter L. Newton

The second part of my comment above was episode specific. And so was Tradewind's comment. I'll keep spoilers out of my discussion for now.

Thanks, I'll go back and read the comment once I've caught up, until then, please pardon my faux pas.

51 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:43:19pm

re: #42 LudwigVanQuixote

Do you watch LOST?

52 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:44:30pm

re: #49 Rightwingconspirator

Excellent analogy on the smokers there Ludwig.

Thanks.

When people look at science, they tend to think of it incorrectly as something divorced from their every day experience. The reality is that many scientific principles do have every day analogies. You just have to be patient and not let yourself get frustrated at the beginning when looking into a new topic.

53 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:46:47pm

re: #47 Bagua

You're probably OK. I'll bet gamer kids throw CPUs around like screwdrivers.

54 Bagua  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:47:40pm

re: #53 Decatur Deb

You're probably OK. I'll bet gamer kids throw CPUs around like screwdrivers.

No doubt, the fragile bit is the pins, as I've discovered.

55 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:47:44pm

re: #48 HoosierHoops

Me too...I just hate it.. I have a wicked sound system in the car.. I kick back and turn it to 11...Maybe I've broken windows driving down the road.. But you can't prove it..*wink*

I stopped listening to pop music in 1982. I played keyboards part time professionally with club bands from 1970 to 1982, and when I left my last band, I just stopped paying any attention to popular music.

Where I work, they play a classic rock FM station all day. Everything from about 1964 through early 80's. I can't stand it... and the scary thing is I KNOW ALL THE LYRICS. I never even tried to memorize those songs, it somehow just got imbedded into my brain.

"Come Together" was playing today and after the song finished, I mentioned to the guy who handles the used books, who is about the same age as I am... "Wow, 40 years ago we thought that song was cool, now, if you listen closely to the lyrics, it was fucked."

56 That's Sarah Palin's Science Advisor To You  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:49:20pm

re: #52 LudwigVanQuixote

Thanks.

When people look at science, they tend to think of it incorrectly as something divorced from their every day experience. The reality is that many scientific principles do have every day analogies. You just have to be patient and not let yourself get frustrated at the beginning when looking into a new topic.

I tell people this all of the time.

For instance, you can look around you and quite plainly see for yourself that Heliocentrism is simply wrong and ushered in an era of false science that is now stuck in a cul-de-sac trying to locate the "Higgs boson" or "G*d particle".

Observation makes it pretty clear that the planets and sun revolve around the earth.

57 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:49:44pm

re: #45 Decatur Deb

Unless you have a very closed area for running, I'd vote against headsets. Runners really need their senses for traffic, animals, and other threats. Army pushed this idea to the edge of regulation. (Not that my daughter listens.)

She needs to. There has been an outbreak of female joggers in my county being sexually assaulted.

58 Digital Display  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:50:25pm

re: #46 torrentprime

I can't face the treadmill or any cardio without some banging techno or a book on tape. Too boring otherwise. I can lift without music, but it's more fun with.

I'm very Competitive...I grew up playing Basketball.. Music distracts me unless it's kick back time...Yes it's true...I'm weird...
I like the pure silence of a run..just the sound of two feet on the pavement.. That is all...Just 2 feet running...

59 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:51:05pm

re: #52 LudwigVanQuixote

Thanks.

When people look at science, they tend to think of it incorrectly as something divorced from their every day experience. The reality is that many scientific principles do have every day analogies. You just have to be patient and not let yourself get frustrated at the beginning when looking into a new topic.

Here's a good article on the same subject...

[Link: climateprogress.org...]

60 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:51:32pm

re: #56 That's Sarah Palin's Science Advisor To You

I tell people this all of the time.

For instance, you can look around you and quite plainly see for yourself that Heliocentrism is simply wrong and ushered in an era of false science that is now stuck in a cul-de-sac trying to locate the "Higgs boson" or "G*d particle".

Observation makes it pretty clear that the planets and sun revolve around the earth.

Dante knew that 'Love..moves the Sun and other stars".

61 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:52:46pm

re: #56 That's Sarah Palin's Science Advisor To You

I tell people this all of the time.

For instance, you can look around you and quite plainly see for yourself that Heliocentrism is simply wrong and ushered in an era of false science that is now stuck in a cul-de-sac trying to locate the "Higgs boson" or "G*d particle".

Observation makes it pretty clear that the planets and sun revolve around the earth.

Not at all.

Not even close.

It was observation afterall in the 16th century that led to heliocentrism. They did not have the benefits of pobes to look directly back then. The point is a matter of making careful and correct observations.

62 webevintage  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:53:21pm

re: #19 tradewind

No, but Claire's appearance in the preview made me wince. And I don't like English-hating-dude. And someone get that corpse off the beach, dammit...

Yeah, John's body just laying there bugs me too.

Last night's episode was called "What Kate Does".
You know what Kate does?
She annoys the hell out of me.

63 That's Sarah Palin's Science Advisor To You  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:54:17pm

re: #60 Decatur Deb

Dante knew that 'Love..moves the Sun and other stars".

Prayer does.

64 keloyd  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:54:39pm

and Tyco Brahe (Kepler's benefactor, iirc) knew how to cut a deal and keep the Church off his back. He offered the compromise that the inside planets circled the sun, but the outer planets and the sun itself could still circle the earth. Then everyone's happy.

65 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:55:41pm

re: #64 keloyd

and Tyco Brahe (Kepler's benefactor, iirc) knew how to cut a deal and keep the Church off his back. He offered the compromise that the inside planets circled the sun, but the outer planets and the sun itself could still circle the earth. Then everyone's happy.

HINO!!!!11!!!

66 Mr. Crankypants  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:55:42pm

Evening everybody...what's the buzz?

67 That's Sarah Palin's Science Advisor To You  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:56:03pm

re: #61 LudwigVanQuixote

Not at all.

Not even close.

It was observation afterall in the 16th century that led to heliocentrism. They did not have the benefits of pobes to look directly back then. The point is a matter of making careful and correct observations.

So you are a Heliocentrist? One of those who followed that whole path of Sun worship?

68 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:56:41pm

re: #66 PT Barnum

Evening everybody...what's the buzz?

There's chum in the water.

69 webevintage  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:56:45pm

re: #33 Walter L. Newton


That's what Mrs. Hawking said in season 4... you cannot change the future, the universe will always course correct.

Once again, I say, very clever writing.

I like how no matter what there are things that do not change. Kate still runs, Sawyer is alone, Ethan sticks needles into Claire, Syaid will pay a price for the things he did, there has to be a Danielle on the island and Jack is still....Jack.

70 Digital Display  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:56:49pm

re: #66 PT Barnum

Evening everybody...what's the buzz?

It's all about you baby!

71 Mr. Crankypants  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:56:56pm

re: #66 PT Barnum

Evening everybody...what's the buzz?

Which reminds me..my 8 year old came home and told me the following joke:

What kind's of ghosts haunt bee hives?

The boo-bees

I laughed a bit before Mrs. Barnum gave him and me both "the look"

72 keloyd  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:57:40pm

re: #65 Decatur Deb

HINO!!!11!!!

I only speak an older dialect of nerdese. You're agreeing? feeling ill? Timmy fell down a well? having what the English call a 'crisis'?

73 windsagio  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:57:40pm

I think Ludwig's joke-detector is broken >>

74 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:57:44pm

re: #63 That's Sarah Palin's Science Advisor To You

Prayer does.

Did you get your avatar on eBay?

75 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:58:00pm

re: #62 webevintage

Yeah, John's body just laying there bugs me too.

Last night's episode was called "What Kate Does".
You know what Kate does?
She annoys the hell out of me.

Still in all, there was a whole lot of good stuff going on in the episode, even if you had to put up with Kate. I'm not overly enamored by Kate either. But she is an important part of the story.

76 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:58:08pm

re: #52 LudwigVanQuixote

You are welcome. In my small way I show artists the science in their methods. Jewelers depend on metallurgy for good results. Once a year we invite jewelers for an open house, open the safe and do real experiments that show principles and sometimes advance the state of the art. Making purple gold for instance. (Au & Al) Pretty but brittle and crumbly, as an intermetallic compound. But it demonstrates where color comes from. And why solubility matters.

77 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:59:03pm

re: #72 keloyd

I only speak an older dialect of nerdese. You're agreeing? feeling ill? Timmy fell down a well? having what the English call a 'crisis'?

Heliocentrist I Name Only

78 torrentprime  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:59:11pm

re: #72 keloyd

Timmy fell down a well?

*Spittake clean-up in torrentprime's cube!*

(yeah, I'm at work)

79 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 4:59:41pm

re: #69 webevintage

I like how no matter what there are things that do not change. Kate still runs, Sawyer is alone, Ethan sticks needles into Claire, Syaid will pay a price for the things he did, there has to be a Danielle on the island and Jack is still...Jack.

As Mrs Hawking said... you can't change the future, the universe will course correct if needed.

80 windsagio  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:00:17pm

re: #76 Rightwingconspirator

Isn't there some color of gold that up to a few years ago (maybe even still) was a trade secret?

81 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:01:41pm

re: #76 Rightwingconspirator

You are welcome. In my small way I show artists the science in their methods. Jewelers depend on metallurgy for good results. Once a year we invite jewelers for an open house, open the safe and do real experiments that show principles and sometimes advance the state of the art. Making purple gold for instance. (Au & Al) Pretty but brittle and crumbly, as an intermetallic compound. But it demonstrates where color comes from. And why solubility matters.

But can you turn lead into gold (other than aiming it at a jeweler)? Seems to be the direction of the thread.

82 windsagio  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:02:58pm

re: #81 Decatur Deb

I think they did it once with a particle accelerator...

a few atoms of radioactive gold.

83 The Left  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:03:23pm

re: #61 LudwigVanQuixote

Not at all.

Not even close.

It was observation afterall in the 16th century that led to heliocentrism. They did not have the benefits of pobes to look directly back then. The point is a matter of making careful and correct observations.

Heh. Ludwig, baby, you did see the user nic, I hope. :)

Semi OT: anyone remember this hilarious fake pro-Brownback blog from a couple of years ago? Lots of pro-Brownback folks thought it was serious.

Heliocentrism is an Atheist Doctrine!

84 That's Sarah Palin's Science Advisor To You  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:03:41pm

re: #74 Decatur Deb

Did you get your avatar on eBay?

No.

It is a picture I took with my cell phone of some eggs on toast as it was served to me in the cafeteria at Oral Roberts University while I was working on my PhD. Coincidence? A real scientist knows that that is no coincidence!

It inspired me to complete my PhD where I did pioneering research on prayer based interstellar propulsion.

85 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:03:59pm

re: #82 windsagio

I think they did it once with a particle accelerator...

a few atoms of radioactive gold.

Science is cheating.

86 webevintage  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:04:30pm

re: #75 Walter L. Newton

Still in all, there was a whole lot of good stuff going on in the episode, even if you had to put up with Kate. I'm not overly enamored by Kate either. But she is an important part of the story.

I agree and I really liked the episode, so far I have felt very satisfied ( of course only 2 in) with how things are moving.

87 windsagio  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:05:06pm

re: #85 Decatur Deb

stupid-ass science. Look at all the trouble that stuff has gotten us into!

88 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:06:35pm

Hey Evening Lizards!

How art thou?

89 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:07:25pm

re: #67 That's Sarah Palin's Science Advisor To You

So you are a Heliocentrist? One of those who followed that whole path of Sun worship?

I deeply apologize for missing the satire of your nic! Great show!

90 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:07:53pm
91 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:07:54pm

re: #73 windsagio

I think Ludwig's joke-detector is broken >>

It was... alas... I get it now. I read the comment and not the nic.

92 The Left  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:08:02pm

re: #60 Decatur Deb

Dante knew that 'Love..moves the Sun and other stars".

So did Donne.

Dull sublunary lovers love
(Whose soule is sense) cannot admit
Absence, because it doth remove
Those things which elemented it.

But we by a'love, so much refin'd
That we ourselves know not what it is,
Inter-assured of the mind,
Care lesse, eyes, lips, and hands to misse.

Our two soules therefore, which are one,
Though I must goe, endure not yet
A breach, but an expansion,
Like gold to ayery thinnesse beate.

If they be two, they are two so
As stiffe twin compasses are two,
Thy soule the fixt foot, makes no show
To move, but doth, if the'other doe.

And though it in the center sit,
Yet when the other far doth rome,
It leanes, and hearkens after it,
And growes erect, as it comes home.

Such wilt thou be to mee, who must
Like th'other foor, obliquely runne;
Thy firmnes makes my circle just,
And makes me end, where I begunne.

93 windsagio  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:08:17pm

re: #90 Bagua

god bagua, bad show.

94 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:08:23pm

re: #70 HoosierHoops

It's all about you baby!

What about meeeeeeeeeee!

95 windsagio  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:08:54pm

re: #91 LudwigVanQuixote

I think you get a pass, you do get harassed on it some, I'm sure all the crazy looks alike after a while >>

96 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:09:02pm

re: #87 windsagio

stupid-ass science. Look at all the trouble that stuff has gotten us into!

My family had a nice cave in the Aurignacian, even had a little gallery started. I'd have it knocked if it weren't for science.

97 Bagua  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:09:07pm

re: #93 windsagio

god bagua, bad show.

You prefer a cover up?

98 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:09:39pm

re: #90 Bagua

Ludwig just made this comment:

This place is a sewer when he is around.

I like Ludwig.

99 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:09:49pm
100 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:09:57pm

re: #91 LudwigVanQuixote

{{HUGS}}

101 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:10:04pm
102 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:10:26pm

re: #91 LudwigVanQuixote

Are you married? My daughter is single.

103 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:10:35pm

re: #43 Killgore Trout

I like hulu because they have other shows from other networks too. The ABC site looks nice and the commercials aren't too bad.

The Rockford Files. Best TV intro ever.

104 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:10:43pm
105 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:11:24pm
106 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:11:47pm

re: #98 Alouette

I like Ludwig.

I love you too :)

107 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:11:57pm
108 SixDegrees  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:12:19pm

re: #61 LudwigVanQuixote

Not at all.

Not even close.

It was observation afterall in the 16th century that led to heliocentrism. They did not have the benefits of pobes to look directly back then. The point is a matter of making careful and correct observations.

Not so much. All of the observational evidence available at the time - and for quite some time afterward - was just as easily explained through the use of epicycles. Heliocentrism didn't win out because of observational data; it won out because it was, in many ways, computationally simpler.

Even today, it's often much easier to reduce an astronomical problem to earth-centered coordinates and assume perfectly circular motion, with secular corrections applied as a second step. It's really only been since the 1950s and the advent of computers that actual heliocentric, physics-based orbital computations have been practical.

109 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:12:37pm

re: #103 Jeff In Ohio

The Rockford Files. Best TV intro ever.

Hawaii 5-0!

110 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:12:38pm

re: #102 Alouette

Are you married? My daughter is single.

I am not married...

I am a nice Jewish boy :)

I am kosher even ;)

111 windsagio  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:12:53pm

re: #105 LudwigVanQuixote

dude, We all know you're right, don't let him bait you.

He's clearly just pisst as hell right now, and wants to make you fight him in a place with an audience.

112 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:13:06pm
113 windsagio  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:13:20pm

re: #103 Jeff In Ohio

did you see the thing where someone referenced the "Rockford Wives" the other day? I almost died >>

114 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:14:10pm

re: #63 That's Sarah Palin's Science Advisor To You

Prayer does.

Every 11 year old knows it's farting.

115 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:14:15pm

re: #111 windsagio

dude, We all know you're right, don't let him bait you.

He's clearly just pisst as hell right now, and wants to make you fight him in a place with an audience.

Ohh dude, that's wh I am ignoring the troll. If it makes a false claim about the science, then well, I will have to correct the false science, but the troll... I gave up caring. I would prefer it not talking to me though.

116 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:14:29pm

I forgot the link.

117 That's Sarah Palin's Science Advisor To You  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:15:10pm

re: #83 iceweasel

Heh. Ludwig, baby, you did see the user nic, I hope. :)

Semi OT: anyone remember this hilarious fake pro-Brownback blog from a couple of years ago? Lots of pro-Brownback folks thought it was serious.

Heliocentrism is an Atheist Doctrine!

Sorry, but that page is an obvious fraud.

It leaves out the critical linkage to the global acceptance of homosexuality that geocentrism ushered in.

The true culprit of corruption of science was Rene Descartes. He was one of the key proto-Nazi proto-Commie intellectuals who took the Copernican aberration and, with the help of Baruch Spinoza, got people to accept two things -

1) that the world and the bodies in motion in it could be described mathematically, and
2) that the Bible contained contradictions in it.

This led to a firestorm of controversy in Holland where Descartes and Spinoza were living where those who defended G*d were ultimately made to accept the teaching of Cartesian-ism in the Universities.

Some say that helped propell the Enlightenment, but what it really propelled was the Homosexual Education Agenda.

To wit - Descartes was
1) French
2) named Rene

Get the picture?

118 windsagio  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:15:17pm

re: #115 LudwigVanQuixote

hehe 'dude' :)

119 The Left  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:15:23pm

re: #107 Bagua

You baited LVQ downstairs and then pursued him up here, trying to get a nice little pileon going.
It's pathetically transparent, and would be laughable if you didn't do this all the time.
I fully expect you to resume complaining about him when he's not around, too.
Just quit it. Everyone knows what you're doing.

120 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:15:23pm

although PERSONALLY, this is my all-time favorite intro.

121 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:15:23pm

re: #116 ggt

I forgot the link.

Love that tune :)

122 The Left  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:16:36pm

re: #111 windsagio

dude, We all know you're right, don't let him bait you.

He's clearly just pisst as hell right now, and wants to make you fight him in a place with an audience.

Exactly.

123 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:17:31pm

All those not interested in play-ground politics, say AYE!

aye!

124 The Left  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:18:22pm

re: #117 That's Sarah Palin's Science Advisor To You

Sorry, but that page is an obvious fraud.

It leaves out the critical linkage to the global acceptance of homosexuality that geocentrism ushered in.

The true culprit of corruption of science was Rene Descartes. He was one of the key proto-Nazi proto-Commie intellectuals who took the Copernican aberration and, with the help of Baruch Spinoza, got people to accept two things -

1) that the world and the bodies in motion in it could be described mathematically, and
2) that the Bible contained contradictions in it.

This led to a firestorm of controversy in Holland where Descartes and Spinoza were living where those who defended G*d were ultimately made to accept the teaching of Cartesian-ism in the Universities.

Some say that helped propell the Enlightenment, but what it really propelled was the Homosexual Education Agenda.

To wit - Descartes was
1) French
2) named Rene

Get the picture?

That's incontrovertibly true. Everyone knows the Enlightenment, like reading, is for teh ghey.

125 windsagio  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:18:45pm

re: #123 ggt

"Please don't fight!"

/sorry, pet peeve- You don't have to read it :P

126 wee fury  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:18:54pm

This is between Ludwig and Bagua. Leave it that way.

127 windsagio  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:19:11pm

re: #124 iceweasel

"The enlightenment is retarded"?

128 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:19:26pm

It looks like some of the hard hitters in climate science is finally calling for some changes in the way the IPCC has handled some parts of their reports in the AR4.

"A lot of stuff in there was just not very good," said Kevin Trenberth, head of climate analysis at the National Center for Atmospheric Research and a lead author of the first report. "A chronic problem is that on the whole area of impacts, getting into the realm of social science, it is a softer science. The facts are not as good."

This is what I have been harping on for months, that there are process and procedure and protocol errors that are leaving a black spot on an otherwise good science.

That goodness it may get cleaned up.

129 The Left  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:19:42pm

re: #127 windsagio

"The enlightenment is retarded"?

Worse, it's GAY!

130 windsagio  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:20:00pm

re: #129 iceweasel

Gay is worse?

BIGOT!

131 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:20:07pm

Today has been pretty good. As I posted earlier, I got out of the snow and to the local bar/liquor store.

Had a beer, bought a bottle of vodka and talked/flirted some with a really cute chick. I'm not a guy who goes out to bars to try to meet women, but I had a a nice time talking to her. She played a song on the jukebox I selected (Muddy Waters!)

Good time tonight, another day off tomorrow. Snow is nice, but I've had enough!

132 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:20:13pm

re: #92 iceweasel

But Whitman understood that love is the quest for connection across vast spaces of humanness:

A NOISELESS, patient spider,
I mark’d, where, on a little promontory, it stood, isolated;
Mark’d how, to explore the vacant, vast surrounding,
It launch’d forth filament, filament, filament, out of itself;
Ever unreeling them—ever tirelessly speeding them

And you, O my Soul, where you stand,
Surrounded, surrounded, in measureless oceans of space,
Ceaselessly musing, venturing, throwing,—seeking the spheres, to connect them;
Till the bridge you will need, be form’d—till the ductile anchor hold;
Till the gossamer thread you fling, catch somewhere, O my Soul.

133 Ojoe  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:20:20pm

Sunset on the San Gabriel Mountains of California. The Towercam, Pacific time zone.


Look now, it will fade quickly.

BBL

134 That's Sarah Palin's Science Advisor To You  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:20:23pm

re: #89 LudwigVanQuixote

I deeply apologize for missing the satire of your nic! Great show!

[Shit, LVQ. I was looking forward to amping you up a bit. ;) ]

135 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:20:46pm

re: #124 iceweasel

That's incontrovertibly true. Everyone knows the Enlightenment, like reading, is for teh ghey.

How do you think the light got in the loafers?

136 windsagio  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:20:51pm

re: #133 Ojoe

I also love that cam well after dark, when the telescope is illuminated ::)

137 darthstar  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:21:25pm

Ugh...interviews. Why can't people be more passionate about what they do? If you don't enjoy your work, do something different. Don't just try another company and hope things will work out better. I always feel like crap after I speak with someone who has plenty of experience, but just doesn't seem comfortable discussing how they've used a program or tool.

138 Ojoe  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:21:36pm

re: #136 windsagio

One time the dome was open & you could see right in to the 100 inch Hale telescope.

139 Obdicut  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:21:55pm

re: #102 Alouette

Hee hee. My friend Ellen, who I thought would never get married, just got engaged thanks to a passel of Jewish grandmothers having tea together.

140 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:21:56pm

stinky has been busy!

141 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:21:59pm

re: #90 Bagua

And you're helping to perpetuate this f**king rolling battle royale that's been going on lately by bringing it into another (completely unrelated) thread. At this point, I don't really care about what's going on between you and LVQ personally, but I'm getting sick of all of the arguing and flamefests, because it's f**king childish and petty.

Y'all just f**king get over it, before you drive sane people away...

142 torrentprime  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:22:35pm

re: #135 Decatur Deb

How do you think the light got in the loafers?

I try to be sparing in my dings, up or down, but these gay jokes are killing me. Ups all around.

143 Racer X  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:22:40pm

Ban them all.

Let Dog sort them out.

144 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:23:02pm

re: #141 talon_262

And you're helping to perpetuate this f**king rolling battle royale that's been going on lately by bringing it into another (completely unrelated) thread. At this point, I don't really care about what's going on between you and LVQ personally, but I'm getting sick of all of the arguing and flamefests, because it's f**king childish and petty.

Y'all just f**king get over it, before you drive sane people away...

I'm not sane, and I'm not going anywhere.

145 The Left  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:23:25pm

re: #132 Jeff In Ohio

But Whitman understood that love is the quest for connection across vast spaces of humanness:

A NOISELESS, patient spider,
I mark’d, where, on a little promontory, it stood, isolated;
Mark’d how, to explore the vacant, vast surrounding,
It launch’d forth filament, filament, filament, out of itself;
Ever unreeling them—ever tirelessly speeding them

And you, O my Soul, where you stand,
Surrounded, surrounded, in measureless oceans of space,
Ceaselessly musing, venturing, throwing,—seeking the spheres, to connect them;
Till the bridge you will need, be form’d—till the ductile anchor hold;
Till the gossamer thread you fling, catch somewhere, O my Soul.

Whitman? ALSO GAY!
here is the deepest secret nobody knows
(here is the root of the root and the bud of the bud
and the sky of the sky of a tree called life;which grows
higher than the soul can hope or mind can hide)
and this is the wonder that's keeping the stars apart

i carry your heart(i carry it in my heart)

I think Sarah Palin's Science Advisor hasn't yet factored the seekrit ingredient of love, including that which dare not speak its name, into their Scienterrific Agenda.

146 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:24:19pm

re: #117 That's Sarah Palin's Science Advisor To You

Wow (I am impressed with the level brilliance here!)

How does Ms. Palin pronounce "Baruch Spinoza?"

For that matter... If she is concerned about Spinoza, does that mean she agrees with Descartes? And what about Rambam and the defense of Rambam? Does Ms. Palin have a position about reduction of the Jewish code into a set of principles of faith much in tune with Greek notions like Platonic ideals, and moreover, does this confound an understand of the unknowable nature of G-d by making Him limited in some way by introducing parameters that He obeys?

147 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:24:38pm

re: #113 windsagio

did you see the thing where someone referenced the "Rockford Wives" the other day? I almost died >>

Rockford wives? Stepford? Ouch.

148 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:25:10pm

re: #110 LudwigVanQuixote

I am not married...

I am a nice Jewish boy :)

I am kosher even ;)

How much money do you make?

149 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:25:18pm

re: #133 Ojoe

Sunset on the San Gabriel Mountains of California. The Towercam, Pacific time zone.

Look now, it will fade quickly.

BBL

Nice.

150 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:25:20pm

re: #139 Obdicut

Hee hee. My friend Ellen, who I thought would never get married, just got engaged thanks to a passel of Jewish grandmothers having tea together.

Never underestimate the powers of a Bubbie Brigade!

151 That's Sarah Palin's Science Advisor To You  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:25:31pm

re: #124 iceweasel

That's incontrovertibly true. Everyone knows the Enlightenment, like reading, is for teh ghey.

And it always starts with good intentions.

Take the Gutenberg press - they first printed Bibles.

But not long after the intellectuals have to start printing up smut from the likes of Chaucer et al.

Same goes for Heliocentrism - it was the road to Homocentrism.

152 windsagio  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:25:34pm

re: #148 Alouette

hah! Now we're down to brass tacks!

153 windsagio  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:25:54pm

re: #151 That's Sarah Palin's Science Advisor To You

+ for homocentrism. Brilliant.

154 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:26:03pm

re: #120 ggt

although PERSONALLY, this is my all-time favorite intro.

I watched that, but didn't see James Garner.

155 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:26:10pm

re: #144 Walter L. Newton

I'm not sane, and I'm not going anywhere.

Fair enough...one man's measure of sanity is another's indication that somebody's "cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs".

;-P

156 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:26:23pm

The Living Bridges Of The Cherrapunji

157 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:26:43pm

gotta go!

bb later

158 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:26:50pm

re: #148 Alouette

How much money do you make?

Wow!

Well I am a scholar... I believe that Hashem will provide.

You can look at that two ways...

1. I have the paltry salary of a scientist... but emunah...

OR

2. I will think that you and your husband are God!

159 Silvergirl  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:27:35pm

Is this the thread where we practice the kind of discourse that makes the communication at LGF the best on the web?

160 That's Sarah Palin's Science Advisor To You  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:28:00pm

re: #129 iceweasel

Worse, it's GAY!

Same with the industrial revolution.

You get industrial looms in Scotland making textiles. At first, they make manly plaids. But then the homosexuals take over and start making Paisleys.

161 Aye Pod  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:28:04pm

re: #92 iceweasel

So did Donne.

Our two soules therefore, which are one,
Though I must goe, endure not yet
A breach, but an expansion,
Like gold to ayery thinnesse beate.

My favourite Donne poem. Thanks ice-ski :)


Youtube Video
162 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:28:58pm

Dumb questions about computers here.

My CPU is starting to make noises. What does that mean?

Also, I sometimes get the message at the top of my screen that my ISP "is not responding". I also get "Word is not responding" when working on a document. What does that mean?

Should I just shoot the bastard now to put me out of my misery or, is there something else I could do?

163 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:29:42pm

re: #151 That's Sarah Palin's Science Advisor To You

....snip
Same goes for Heliocentrism - it was the road to Homocentrism.

You can track that all the way back to the Homousians and Homoisians, but I don't give an iota.

164 That's Sarah Palin's Science Advisor To You  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:29:46pm

re: #159 Silvergirl

Is this the thread where we practice the kind of discourse that makes the communication at LGF the best on the web most indulgent of the homosexual conspiracy to degrade worship?

FTFY

165 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:30:43pm

re: #159 Silvergirl

Is this the thread where we practice the kind of discourse that makes the communication at LGF the best on the web?

It's going to gay puns in a second.

166 windsagio  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:31:15pm

re: #164 That's Sarah Palin's Science Advisor To You

man I hope you stick around. Sustained satire is hard >

167 Racer X  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:31:17pm

re: #162 MandyManners

Dumb questions about computers here.

My CPU is starting to make noises. What does that mean?

Also, I sometimes get the message at the top of my screen that my ISP "is not responding". I also get "Word is not responding" when working on a document. What does that mean?

Should I just shoot the bastard now to put me out of my misery or, is there something else I could do?

My Mac whines like a bitch - but only when I'm on LGF.

Seriously.

Something is causing my processor to run like mad, and the fans are spinning at warp speed.

168 freetoken  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:31:55pm

re: #162 MandyManners

Shoot it, shoot it now, put it out of your misery!

I assume by "CPU" you did not mean the actual integrated circuit device that sits somewhere on the motherboard, but rather the entire box which is holding the various components?

169 windsagio  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:32:06pm

re: #167 Racer X

A few of my friends have that problem, I keep telling them to email charles and ask for a lgf-lite. The features are cool, but people with 5+ year old machines can't handle it.

170 Mr. Crankypants  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:32:25pm

re: #117 That's Sarah Palin's Science Advisor To You

Sorry, but that page is an obvious fraud.

It leaves out the critical linkage to the global acceptance of homosexuality that geocentrism ushered in.

The true culprit of corruption of science was Rene Descartes. He was one of the key proto-Nazi proto-Commie intellectuals who took the Copernican aberration and, with the help of Baruch Spinoza, got people to accept two things -

1) that the world and the bodies in motion in it could be described mathematically, and
2) that the Bible contained contradictions in it.

This led to a firestorm of controversy in Holland where Descartes and Spinoza were living where those who defended G*d were ultimately made to accept the teaching of Cartesian-ism in the Universities.

Some say that helped propell the Enlightenment, but what it really propelled was the Homosexual Education Agenda.

To wit - Descartes was
1) French
2) named Rene

Get the picture?

He also had a bad case of equinophobia, hence the advice not to put Descartes before the horse

171 freetoken  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:32:54pm

re: #167 Racer X

LGF can, when I use Safari, eat up quite a few cycles. I suspect it is because of all the javascript and the auto-updating.

172 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:33:01pm

re: #164 That's Sarah Palin's Science Advisor To You

But is not tolerance of homosexuality not a necessary out come of separating Church and State and hence a reflection of American liberties?

173 Digital Display  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:33:08pm

re: #162 MandyManners

Dumb questions about computers here.

My CPU is starting to make noises. What does that mean?

Also, I sometimes get the message at the top of my screen that my ISP "is not responding". I also get "Word is not responding" when working on a document. What does that mean?

Should I just shoot the bastard now to put me out of my misery or, is there something else I could do?

CPU's don't make sounds.. None..It's purely electrical .. It's always the fan...
They are tied to usage and power requirements..

174 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:33:23pm

re: #170 PT Barnum

Terrible.

175 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:33:24pm

re: #162 MandyManners

Dumb questions about computers here.

My CPU is starting to make noises. What does that mean?


It's probably a fan. They get noisy over time.

176 windsagio  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:33:55pm

re: #170 PT Barnum

its so hard to not downding you sometimes :p

177 windsagio  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:34:18pm

re: #173 HoosierHoops

could be the PC speaker beeping at her, but thats usually "REALLY BAD"

178 Racer X  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:34:22pm

re: #171 freetoken

LGF can, when I use Safari, eat up quite a few cycles. I suspect it is because of all the javascript and the auto-updating.

Yup.

Does it with Firefox too. As soon as I close the window the fans spin back down to quiet.

179 Obdicut  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:34:29pm

re: #162 MandyManners

Stuff gets to 'not responding' a lot with MS, so that itself is nothing to worry about unless it happens every time you use a program. Obviously the ISP (by which I assume you mean some sort of dialup software or something) not responding is a little more critical, and I'd contact them to see if there's a more recent version of that software to use.

The noise itself could indicate a fan has slowed down. I suggest using:

[Link: www.almico.com...]

Speedfan to see how hot your computer is running. Anything above 70 degrees C is a serious problem.

180 wrenchwench  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:35:14pm

re: #169 windsagio

A few of my friends have that problem, I keep telling them to email charles and ask for a lgf-lite. The features are cool, but people with 5+ year old machines can't handle it.

Using the Spy mode for an individual thread is worth a try. Click the little magnifying glass right under the "Donate" button on the right.

181 Mr. Crankypants  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:35:42pm

re: #176 windsagio

for bad puns? Oh c'mon..what's wrong with bad puns?

182 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:36:16pm

re: #167 Racer X

My Mac whines like a bitch - but only when I'm on LGF.

Seriously.

Something is causing my processor to run like mad, and the fans are spinning at warp speed.

Mine makes noises when starting up and shutting down. If I don't put it to sleep before I go to bed or leave for a while, I can really here a humming. Also, there are noises I can describe as "mechanical".

183 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:36:26pm

re: #181 PT Barnum

for bad puns? Oh c'mon..what's wrong with bad puns?

They're not punny.

184 windsagio  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:36:28pm

re: #181 PT Barnum

for bad puns? Oh c'mon..what's wrong with bad puns?

emphasis for clarity :p

185 The Left  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:36:40pm

re: #160 That's Sarah Palin's Science Advisor To You

Same with the industrial revolution.

You get industrial looms in Scotland making textiles. At first, they make manly plaids. But then the homosexuals take over and start making Paisleys.

As we all know, only the manliest of men wear plaid!

Youtube Video
186 windsagio  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:36:41pm

re: #183 Walter L. Newton

ok sorry walter, over the line >>

187 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:36:41pm
188 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:36:59pm

re: #168 freetoken

Shoot it, shoot it now, put it out of your misery!

I assume by "CPU" you did not mean the actual integrated circuit device that sits somewhere on the motherboard, but rather the entire box which is holding the various components?

TEH TAK TAWK MAIX ME KRIE

189 Digital Display  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:36:59pm

re: #181 PT Barnum

for bad puns? Oh c'mon..what's wrong with bad puns?

Use a Gun Pun go to prison,,,

190 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:37:03pm

re: #172 LudwigVanQuixote

But is not tolerance of homosexuality not a necessary out come of separating Church and State and hence a reflection of American liberties?

I'd like to state that I can't tolerate anti-homosexual churchmen taking liberties with America.

191 Mr. Crankypants  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:37:08pm

re: #184 windsagio

emphasis for clarity :p

But all puns are bad to someone...

192 PhillyPretzel  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:37:21pm

re: #162 MandyManners

I had a problem re-entering "orange sky with birds" earlier today. I kept getting kicked off the net.

193 The Left  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:37:46pm

re: #159 Silvergirl

Is this the thread where we practice the kind of discourse that makes the communication at LGF the best on the web?

Yes, these references to Whitman and Spinoza are really declassing the joint. //

194 wrenchwench  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:37:48pm

By the way, is the latest Firefox update OK? People were having trouble with the last update (actually the one before last, I think) so I skipped a couple.

195 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:37:49pm

re: #173 HoosierHoops

CPU's don't make sounds.. None..It's purely electrical .. It's always the fan...
They are tied to usage and power requirements..

So, if I have the fan replaced, things will be okay?

196 Achilles Tang  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:37:55pm

re: #11 Walter L. Newton

Did last nights LOST episode hurt your head... it hurt mine.

Not hurt, numb.

197 Digital Display  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:38:02pm

re: #189 HoosierHoops

Use a Gun Pun go to prison,,,

198 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:38:05pm

re: #175 Killgore Trout

It's probably a fan. They get noisy over time.

YES! YES! YES!

199 Mr. Crankypants  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:38:29pm

re: #183 Walter L. Newton

They're not punny.

I'm feeling punished now. I have no compunction about making puns.

200 windsagio  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:38:52pm

re: #191 PT Barnum

its like the old SF story (by Asimov I think).

In the story humor was an experiment put on humans by aliens, and showed that no humor is ever original, or has been for centuries.

The only exception stated was puns, but they noted we don't laugh at puns, we groan.

In the end, the aliens destroyed humor and we were left with puns for the rest of eternity.

201 Racer X  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:39:25pm

I've got a widget called iStat Nano that is good at letting me know what is going on.

Fans
CPU 3290 rpm
System 2106 rpm
Hard drive 2512 rpm

Temp
CPU - 71
HD 43

202 Aye Pod  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:40:05pm

re: #200 windsagio

its like the old SF story (by Asimov I think).

In the story humor was an experiment put on humans by aliens, and showed that no humor is ever original, or has been for centuries.

The only exception stated was puns, but they noted we don't laugh at puns, we groan.

In the end, the aliens destroyed humor and we were left with puns for the rest of eternity.

I no longer even groan.

203 windsagio  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:40:17pm

re: #195 MandyManners

the sound is almost certainly the fans, but that might not be the problem.

It might be overheating for another reason, for instance.

204 Mr. Crankypants  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:40:28pm

re: #198 MandyManners

YES! YES! YES!

I don't know if you said, is the noise all the time? Or is it intermittent? I've also known a CD Drive to make a lot of racket as it got older, or the hard drive could be getting ready to go. There are only a few moving parts in the system, which all belong to things that go round and round.

So it could be a case fan, CPU cooler fan, Hard Drive, or CD Drive.

205 keloyd  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:40:30pm

re: #146 LudwigVanQuixote

Who is Palin's favorite Jewish Renaissance philosopher? - all of them!
"I can see Andalucia from my house!" - Maimonides

206 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:40:53pm

re: #190 Decatur Deb

I'd like to state that I can't tolerate anti-homosexual churchmen taking liberties with America.

I have to agree.

I also have to add... I can not stand Churchmen using the church as a way to make themselves rich and powerful at the expense of others.

The involvement of Robertson's gold interests with Liberia and the horrors of Liberia is almost too much to bear.

I apologize for getting very serious here, but one of the major reasons there are so many hellholes in the third world is that people like Robertson keep the corrupt, evil and brutal regimes in power, for a share of the profits of course.

We can talk about the brutal history of this, or we can get really real and say that his gold came at the cost of murder, destruction, raped children, child soldiers and all manner of savagery.

If you want to know why I consider the GOP evil then that would be exhibit R.

207 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:41:12pm

re: #179 Obdicut

Stuff gets to 'not responding' a lot with MS, so that itself is nothing to worry about unless it happens every time you use a program. Obviously the ISP (by which I assume you mean some sort of dialup software or something) not responding is a little more critical, and I'd contact them to see if there's a more recent version of that software to use.

The noise itself could indicate a fan has slowed down. I suggest using:

[Link: www.almico.com...]

Speedfan to see how hot your computer is running. Anything above 70 degrees C is a serious problem.

Okay. That's a little more involved so, pardon me while I take my time.

Word doesn't "is not responding" every time I use it but, it happens a LOT.

I have a high-speed connection thingy.

I'm gonna' write down that fan thingy and try it.

208 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:41:14pm

re: #205 keloyd

Who is Palin's favorite Jewish Renaissance philosopher? - all of them!
"I can see Andalucia from my house!" - Maimonides

That was bloody brilliant!

209 Achilles Tang  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:41:46pm

re: #173 HoosierHoops

CPU's don't make sounds.. None..It's purely electrical .. It's always the fan...
They are tied to usage and power requirements..

Let us not forget the even more fun sound that comes from the hard drive, just before shit happens...

210 Digital Display  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:41:48pm

re: #195 MandyManners

So, if I have the fan replaced, things will be okay?

Well..I know nothing about your system..
But your fan is spinning up during high usage..Which it shouldn't need to do that much...I think something else is running in the background...

211 simoom  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:42:02pm

I finally got around to reading the Newsweek article on the Tea Party convention that Surabaya Stew linked to a couple of threads back. It's short, but worth a look:

Black Helicopters Over Nashville
Never mind Sarah Palin and the tricornered hats. The tea-party movement is dominated by conspiracist kooks.

I consider myself a conservative and arrived at this conference as a paid-up, rank-and-file attendee, not one of the bemused New York Times types with a media pass. But I also happen to be writing a book for HarperCollins that focuses on 9/11 conspiracy theories, so I have a pretty good idea where the various screws and nuts can be found in the great toolbox of American political life.

Within a few hours in Nashville, I could tell that what I was hearing wasn't just random rhetorical mortar fire being launched at Obama and his political allies: the salvos followed the established script of New World Order conspiracy theories, which have suffused the dubious right-wing fringes of American politics since the days of the John Birch Society.

This world view's modern-day prophets include Texas radio host Alex Jones, whose documentary, The Obama Deception, claims Obama's candidacy was a plot by the leaders of the New World Order to "con the Amercican people into accepting global slavery"; Christian evangelist Pat Robertson; and the rightward strain of the aforementioned "9/11 Truth" movement. According to this dark vision, America's 21st-century traumas signal the coming of a great political cataclysm, in which a false prophet such as Barack Obama will upend American sovereignty and render the country into a godless, one-world socialist dictatorship run by the United Nations from its offices in Manhattan.

212 charlz  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:42:07pm

re: #194 wrenchwench

By the way, is the latest Firefox update OK? People were having trouble with the last update (actually the one before last, I think) so I skipped a couple.

3.6? I've been using it for a while now with now probs. Works with my add ons, too.

213 PhillyPretzel  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:42:29pm

::: doing the happy chair dance ::: I am off tomorrow. Yippee. But I have to dig out. That will not be fun.

214 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:43:01pm

re: #196 Naso Tang

Not hurt, numb.

The one point I found most interesting was that in the 2004 post landing of 815 time line, Ethan was a OB doc, off Island.

Now, in the original time line, Ethan was born on the Island to a Dharma female member, became an other at some time, and was helping "steal" children on the Island and was responsible for capturing Claire...

"Ethan took Claire to DHARMA Initiative station "The Staff" where he and the Others, including Tom, were going to perform a Cesarean section in order to take Aaron for themselves. He drugged Claire to make her compliant and injected her, or her baby, with a substance. While showing Claire the Nursery, he was scolded by Tom for not making a list before bringing Claire. During the time Claire spent in the Staff, Ethan's treatment of Claire was both concerned and sympathetic. He referred to the Others as "a family". ("Maternity Leave")"

And he later was killed.

Yet, in the new time line, he was not on the Island, put still a part of Claire and her baby.

215 Mr. Crankypants  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:43:33pm

re: #200 windsagio

a groan is as good as a guffaw to a punster.

216 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:43:44pm

re: #183 Walter L. Newton

*smoochy*

217 wrenchwench  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:44:13pm

re: #212 charlz

3.6? I've been using it for a while now with now probs. Works with my add ons, too.

Yes, I think that's the one. Thanks, I'll download it tomorrow.

Good night, lizards.

218 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:44:31pm

re: #192 PhillyPretzel

I had a problem re-entering "orange sky with birds" earlier today. I kept getting kicked off the net.

SHOOT YER COMPUTER.

219 torrentprime  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:44:32pm

re: #172 LudwigVanQuixote

But is not tolerance of homosexuality not a necessary out come of separating Church and State and hence a reflection of American liberties?

I got lost on the second "not" in there, but... God I hope so.

220 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:45:01pm

re: #199 PT Barnum

I'm feeling punished now. I have no compunction about making puns.

You are punctual with your puns.

221 Digital Display  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:45:02pm

re: #209 Naso Tang

Let us not forget the even more fun sound that comes from the hard drive, just before shit happens...

Years ago when a big foot Hard drive went out it sounded like popcorn popping..
You knew you were fucked when you heard that sound

222 That's Sarah Palin's Science Advisor To You  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:45:03pm

re: #146 LudwigVanQuixote

Wow (I am impressed with the level brilliance here!)

How does Ms. Palin pronounce "Baruch Spinoza?"

For that matter... If she is concerned about Spinoza, does that mean she agrees with Descartes? And what about Rambam and the defense of Rambam? Does Ms. Palin have a position about reduction of the Jewish code into a set of principles of faith much in tune with Greek notions like Platonic ideals, and moreover, does this confound an understand of the unknowable nature of G-d by making Him limited in some way by introducing parameters that He obeys?

Well, at first I told her to pronounce it "Bah- rook" but she kept saying "Bar Uch" so we just went with "Spinoza Dude" after a while.

We didn't get much past that.

She does know that "Spinoza Dude" was expelled from his congregation (we just say "kicked out" because "expelled" and "anathamatized" are hard to write on your hand) for heresy. She also knows that Spinoza's work was later accepted by most Jews and came to strengthen both their and christian faiths! that is why she likes Spinoza Dude.

Descartes, however, is a different matter.

223 PhillyPretzel  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:45:37pm

re: #218 MandyManners

My gun only shoots intruders.

224 Mr. Crankypants  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:45:40pm

re: #220 MandyManners

You are punctual with your puns.

I like to puntificate...

225 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:45:42pm

re: #203 windsagio

the sound is almost certainly the fans, but that might not be the problem.

It might be overheating for another reason, for instance.

AAAIIIYEEEeeeEEEE

226 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:46:15pm

re: #219 torrentprime

I got lost on the second "not" in there, but... God I hope so.

Good point... there were just the right amount of nots for Ms. Palin's view... Alas, my joke was not as funny as her's...

227 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:46:16pm

re: #185 iceweasel

That was way, way, cool. The group didn't show.

228 windsagio  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:46:28pm

re: #225 MandyManners

...

Sounds like a posession.

Do you know wa good priest?

229 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:47:12pm

re: #204 PT Barnum

I don't know if you said, is the noise all the time? Or is it intermittent? I've also known a CD Drive to make a lot of racket as it got older, or the hard drive could be getting ready to go. There are only a few moving parts in the system, which all belong to things that go round and round.

So it could be a case fan, CPU cooler fan, Hard Drive, or CD Drive.

It is intermittent.

230 Mr. Crankypants  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:47:16pm

re: #228 windsagio

...

Sounds like a posession.

Do you know wa good priest?

He'll exercise your demons...

231 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:48:03pm

re: #210 HoosierHoops

Well..I know nothing about your system..
But your fan is spinning up during high usage..Which it shouldn't need to do that much...I think something else is running in the background...

The noise happens during times of low usage.

232 albusteve  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:48:09pm

this is a test....
the cakes are on the griddle

233 Mr. Crankypants  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:48:14pm

re: #229 MandyManners

It is intermittent.

First thing I would do, and I mean FIRST, is to get a good backup of your data files in case the hard drive is getting ready to take a powder.

234 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:48:47pm

re: #222 That's Sarah Palin's Science Advisor To You

Well, at first I told her to pronounce it "Bah- rook" but she kept saying "Bar Uch" so we just went with "Spinoza Dude" after a while.

We didn't get much past that.

She does know that "Spinoza Dude" was expelled from his congregation (we just say "kicked out" because "expelled" and "anathamatized" are hard to write on your hand) for heresy. She also knows that Spinoza's work was later accepted by most Jews and came to strengthen both their and christian faiths! that is why she likes Spinoza Dude.

Descartes, however, is a different matter.

Really, she likes Spinoza dude and dislikes Descartes... But isn't the essence of her philosophy based on Cartesian Dualism? I mean, how can she be so ant abortion without assuming that a body which can not yet house an intellect, i.e. an embryo without a developed brain none the less has a soul distinct but linked to the body?

235 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:49:10pm

re: #223 PhillyPretzel

My gun only shoots intruders.

Ever been to a range?

236 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:49:11pm

re: #222 That's Sarah Palin's Science Advisor To You

Ohh and brilliant!

237 windsagio  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:49:13pm

bbiab; rockband :)

238 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:49:17pm

re: #123 ggt

All those not interested in play-ground politics, say AYE!

aye!

AYE!!

239 That's Sarah Palin's Science Advisor To You  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:49:19pm

re: #172 LudwigVanQuixote

But is not tolerance of homosexuality not a necessary out come of separating Church and State and hence a reflection of American liberties?

Well the Governor is certainly tolerant of homosexuals. We'd just like to keep them out of:

1) the military
2) marriage
3) the work place
4) our churches
5) schools
6) universities
7) government
8) gun shops
9) locker rooms
10) the movies

Gays are welcome pretty much anywhere else, like on HGTV! Or they can run restaurants!

As for that whole "liberty" angle, I will have to call the folks over at Liberty University in the morning to get their take on it.

240 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:49:48pm

re: #224 PT Barnum

I like to puntificate...

I bow.

241 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:49:49pm

re: #224 PT Barnum

I like to puntificate...

One period will do. Your punctuation is weak.

242 jaunte  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:50:21pm

re: #241 Decatur Deb

Periodically, he tables it.

243 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:50:35pm

re: #228 windsagio

...

Sounds like a posession.

Do you know wa good priest?

I don't believe in possession.

But, I believe in IDE .50.

244 albusteve  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:50:36pm

re: #241 Decatur Deb

One period will do. Your punctuation is weak.

punctuation is over rated....they lied

245 PhillyPretzel  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:50:37pm

re: #235 MandyManners

That was the first time I used it. I "killed" the target.

246 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:50:46pm

re: #230 PT Barnum

He'll exercise your demons...

Nothing worse than flabby demons.

247 Mr. Crankypants  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:51:31pm

re: #242 jaunte

Periodically, he tables it.

I knew a guy who had Krohn's disease and ended up with a semi-colon.

248 jaunte  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:51:50pm

re: #247 PT Barnum

Comma gain?

249 albusteve  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:51:55pm

re: #242 jaunte

Periodically, he tables it.

what a gas...next you'll tell me he's into heavy metal

250 Mr. Crankypants  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:52:04pm

re: #246 Decatur Deb

Nothing worse than flabby demons.

But make sure you pay him or you'll get reposessed.

251 Achilles Tang  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:52:14pm

re: #214 Walter L. Newton

You are ahead of me, partly since I wasn't real fan the first year or so, but one thing about Ethan in the hospital (last episode) seemed to me that he was pulled into the room without prior connection and then started talking as if he already knew all about the pregnancy.

I'm going with simple, even though I hope I'll be surprisingly wrong, and think everyone on the island is a clone ala The Matrix.

252 keloyd  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:52:47pm

re: #200 windsagio

its like the old SF story (by Asimov I think).

In the story humor was an experiment put on humans by aliens, and showed that no humor is ever original, or has been for centuries.

The only exception stated was puns, but they noted we don't laugh at puns, we groan.

In the end, the aliens destroyed humor and we were left with puns for the rest of eternity.

Asimov's story was Jokester, and it wierded me out when I read it.

253 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:53:00pm

re: #124 iceweasel

That's incontrovertibly true. Everyone knows the Enlightenment, like reading, is for teh ghey.

Back in the day, in Mexican-owned California, a ship docked at Monterey, and word got out to the local Church authorities that they had forbidden books on board. Descartes. Montaigne. Rousseau. And a Protestant translation of the Bible.

The Church authorities planned to board the ship, confiscate the goods, and burn the books, but a young man named Mariano Guadalupe Vallejo got there first. He rowed out to the ship, paid them several hundred dollars for the books, and started a secret Enlightenment Reading Circle.

They got caught eventually, but it was a heck of a blow for freedom.

254 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:53:19pm

re: #233 PT Barnum

First thing I would do, and I mean FIRST, is to get a good backup of your data files in case the hard drive is getting ready to take a powder.

Here's the thing. I've saved all my Word documents.

I've been exploring a Recovery/Restoration thingy. I got nothing in my package when I bought it.

I was looking yesterday and found a "Recovery" thingy on a drive in my computer. Should I burn it onto a DVD?

255 Mr. Crankypants  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:53:28pm

re: #248 jaunte

Comma gain?

I'll have you know I'm a member of the Church of Punctuation founded by our Savior and his 12 apostrophes

256 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:53:30pm

re: #162 MandyManners

Dumb questions about computers here.

My CPU is starting to make noises. What does that mean?

Also, I sometimes get the message at the top of my screen that my ISP "is not responding". I also get "Word is not responding" when working on a document. What does that mean?

Should I just shoot the bastard now to put me out of my misery or, is there something else I could do?

My guess is the the CPU fan/heatsink is probably crudded up with dust and crap, hence the fan noise and random lockups...if you've never taken the side panel off your computer to clean the dust out, I'd highly recommend it ASAP. On most machines, unplug all cables, place the machine on a good work surface, open/remove the left side case panel (looking at the computer from the front) and blow the interior and heat sinks out with canned air (available from almost anywhere). When as much crud has been blown out as you possibly can, close up the case, plug stuff back up, and you should be square...

257 Achilles Tang  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:53:31pm

re: #216 MandyManners

*smoochy*

I thought we were going to cut out this fooling around.

258 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:54:49pm

re: #245 PhillyPretzel

That was the first time I used it. I "killed" the target.

Keep on doing it.

259 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:55:16pm

It's been real nice, but I gotta go for a bit. Be well all. I hope you have a fabulous evening...

260 Achilles Tang  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:55:49pm

re: #254 MandyManners

Here's the thing. I've saved all my Word documents.

I've been exploring a Recovery/Restoration thingy. I got nothing in my package when I bought it.

I was looking yesterday and found a "Recovery" thingy on a drive in my computer. Should I burn it onto a DVD?

A Recovery/Restoration will likely start you out from scratch, back to when you bought the machine, minus everything else you may have installed (including your LGF ID/PW) but as it's a Mac I'm not sure.

261 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:55:49pm

re: #146 LudwigVanQuixote

Wow (I am impressed with the level brilliance here!)

How does Ms. Palin pronounce "Baruch Spinoza?"

For that matter... If she is concerned about Spinoza, does that mean she agrees with Descartes? And what about Rambam and the defense of Rambam? Does Ms. Palin have a position about reduction of the Jewish code into a set of principles of faith much in tune with Greek notions like Platonic ideals, and moreover, does this confound an understand of the unknowable nature of G-d by making Him limited in some way by introducing parameters that He obeys?

I once had a sweet German lady professor who taught Jewish Philosophy. She said 'Shpinosa", and always prefaced it with a little sigh and exclamation: "Ach, ja, Shpinosa".

262 Mr. Crankypants  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:55:59pm

re: #254 MandyManners

Here's the thing. I've saved all my Word documents.

I've been exploring a Recovery/Restoration thingy. I got nothing in my package when I bought it.

I was looking yesterday and found a "Recovery" thingy on a drive in my computer. Should I burn it onto a DVD?

What brand PC? If it's an HP, they put the recovery files on a partition on the hard drive. You should be able to burn a recovery disk with a utility on the PC. Do that once you have your data files backed up.

WARNING: HP will not let you do a repair install of the OS, so if you have to start from scratch, you will lose all the data and programs on your drive and start with the hard drive in the state it was in when you bought the PC.

(I don't recommend HPs to my clients for this reason alone)

263 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:56:16pm

re: #251 Naso Tang

You are ahead of me, partly since I wasn't real fan the first year or so, but one thing about Ethan in the hospital (last episode) seemed to me that he was pulled into the room without prior connection and then started talking as if he already knew all about the pregnancy.

I'm going with simple, even though I hope I'll be surprisingly wrong, and think everyone on the island is a clone ala The Matrix.

No... the show is following the rules that they set for themselves... and "you can't change destiny... the universe will course correct" is one of the rules, and having Ethan working in that time line as a OB doc and taking care of Claire is the writers way of showing the "course corrections" that are taking place since Juliet detonated the bomb.

It's not just a coincident that Ethan was there.

And no, they are not clones.

264 Racer X  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:56:37pm

Weirod. LGF is working much better through Firefox now.

Fans and temps are much happier.

265 Silvergirl  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:58:09pm

Time for Dinner for One

266 Mr. Crankypants  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:58:10pm

Mandy:

If it's a Mac I can't tell you much at all...since I don't work with those, although Mrs. Barnum is getting a used iMac and a new cell phone for Valentines day.

267 albusteve  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:58:26pm

my daughter invented this gig...it's taken the upper mid west by storm...man, am I proud of that kid...
[Link: www.artprize.org...]

268 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:58:34pm

re: #256 talon_262

My guess is the the CPU fan/heatsink is probably crudded up with dust and crap, hence the fan noise and random lockups...if you've never taken the side panel off your computer to clean the dust out, I'd highly recommend it ASAP. On most machines, unplug all cables, place the machine on a good work surface, open/remove the left side case panel (looking at the computer from the front) and blow the interior and heat sinks out with canned air (available from almost anywhere). When as much crud has been blown out as you possibly can, close up the case, plug stuff back up, and you should be square...

Thank you. This, I can do.

BTW, what's a "heat sink"?

269 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:58:53pm

re: #257 Naso Tang

I thought we were going to cut out this fooling around.

*smoochy*

270 That's Sarah Palin's Science Advisor To You  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:58:55pm

re: #234 LudwigVanQuixote

Really, she likes Spinoza dude and dislikes Descartes... But isn't the essence of her philosophy based on Cartesian Dualism? I mean, how can she be so ant abortion without assuming that a body which can not yet house an intellect, i.e. an embryo without a developed brain none the less has a soul distinct but linked to the body?

There you go with your homocentric efforts to confuse things that are pretty clear to most people.

I especially like your attempt to get me to reject dualism in favor of, say, a phenomenological view that might get me to go down the road to Heidegger's metaphysics and post-modernism. All sorts of "homo-sink-holes" in that forest, like semiology!

And if I accept dualism then I go down a road of indulging and justifying all sorts of flesh-sin, don't I?

You might think you are clever, but we like to consult the Bible rather than Frenchies with girly names.

271 Mr. Crankypants  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:59:20pm

re: #268 MandyManners

Thank you. This, I can do.

BTW, what's a "heat sink"?

It's a piece of metal that acts as a heat conductor and pulls heat away from the CPU.

272 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:59:41pm

re: #262 PT Barnum

What brand PC? If it's an HP, they put the recovery files on a partition on the hard drive. You should be able to burn a recovery disk with a utility on the PC. Do that once you have your data files backed up.

WARNING: HP will not let you do a repair install of the OS, so if you have to start from scratch, you will lose all the data and programs on your drive and start with the hard drive in the state it was in when you bought the PC.

(I don't recommend HPs to my clients for this reason alone)

Yeah, it's an HP.

273 Varek Raith  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:59:54pm

re: #268 MandyManners

Thank you. This, I can do.

BTW, what's a "heat sink"?

Looks something like this.

274 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 5:59:55pm

re: #268 MandyManners

Thank you. This, I can do.

BTW, what's a "heat sink"?

It's a piece of metal that is attached to an any electronic component that gets hot... it absorbs heat from the component and dissipates it away from the component.

275 jaunte  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:00:06pm

re: #267 albusteve

my daughter invented this gig...it's taken the upper mid west by storm...man, am I proud of that kid...
[Link: www.artprize.org...]


That's very cool. Congratulations.

276 prairiefire  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:00:15pm

re: #267 albusteve

my daughter invented this gig...it's taken the upper mid west by storm...man, am I proud of that kid...
[Link: www.artprize.org...]

Very cool. My best friend is a high school art teacher and I will pass that link on to her tomorrow.

277 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:00:17pm

re: #266 PT Barnum

Mandy:

If it's a Mac I can't tell you much at all...since I don't work with those, although Mrs. Barnum is getting a used iMac and a new cell phone for Valentines day.

Oh, you sweet man!

DON'T FORGET THE ROSES.

278 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:01:17pm

re: #271 PT Barnum

It's a piece of metal that acts as a heat conductor and pulls heat away from the CPU.

I'm thinking I might just pay the Geek Squad $179.00.

279 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:02:02pm

re: #273 Varek Raith

Looks something like this.

Itsy-bitsy.

280 Charles Johnson  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:02:12pm

Hey, the shrieking harpy made it all the way onto Keith Olbermann's show tonight. She was in contention for the worst person award for her mind-bendingly horrific appearance on the Joy Behar show.

281 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:02:15pm

re: #267 albusteve

my daughter invented this gig...it's taken the upper mid west by storm...man, am I proud of that kid...
[Link: www.artprize.org...]

"gig"=the competition?

282 prairiefire  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:02:27pm

re: #261 SanFranciscoZionist

Hi, SFZ. I thought of you when I saw this article this morning: [Link: news.yahoo.com...]

283 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:02:32pm

re: #274 Walter L. Newton

It's a piece of metal that is attached to an any electronic component that gets hot... it absorbs heat from the component and dissipates it away from the component.

I know what "dissipates" means!

284 albusteve  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:02:48pm

re: #275 jaunte

That's very cool. Congratulations.

it took off like wildfire...she's deep into the annual blues fest up there too...she's VIP and checks out all the artists etc...daddy's little girl

285 Mr. Crankypants  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:03:03pm

re: #272 MandyManners

Yeah, it's an HP.

Okay..there should be a utility that you can run on the HP that will let you make a restore disk set from the restore partition.

You'll need about 5 or 6 CD-R or 2 or 3 DVD-R disks if you want to make it yourself, otherwise HP will sell you one for around $25.

I would do things in this order:
1) Back up the data
2) Blow out the inside of the PC. Make sure to blow out the Power Supply and the front of the Case as well, as they tend to collect a lot of dust.
3) Burn the restore disks in any case.

286 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:03:04pm

re: #280 Charles

Hey, the shrieking harpy made it all the way onto Keith Olbermann's show tonight. She was in contention for the worst person award for her mind-bendingly horrific appearance on the Joy Behar show.

Did she win?

287 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:03:05pm

re: #270 That's Sarah Palin's Science Advisor To You

Heh, homo-sink-holes. The Whitman is strong in you.

BEHOLD this swarthy face—these gray eyes,
This beard—the white wool, unclipt upon my neck,
My brown hands, and the silent manner of me, without charm;
Yet comes one, a Manhattanese, and ever at parting, kisses me lightly on the lips with robust love,
And I, on the crossing of the street, or on the ship’s deck, give a kiss in return;
We observe that salute of American comrades, land and sea,
We are those two natural and nonchalant persons.

-----
Here's a tip o' the glass to teh ghey,
it is the American whey.

288 Digital Display  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:03:26pm

re: #280 Charles

Hey, the shrieking harpy made it all the way onto Keith Olbermann's show tonight. She was in contention for the worst person award for her mind-bendingly horrific appearance on the Joy Behar show.

She lost? Who the hell beat her?

289 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:03:35pm

re: #283 MandyManners

I know what "dissipates" means!

I thought that's what people do that hate Foi Gras... "diss a pate"

290 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:03:49pm

re: #270 That's Sarah Palin's Science Advisor To You

There you go with your homocentric efforts to confuse things that are pretty clear to most people.

I especially like your attempt to get me to reject dualism in favor of, say, a phenomenological view that might get me to go down the road to Heidegger's metaphysics and post-modernism. All sorts of "homo-sink-holes" in that forest, like semiology!

And if I accept dualism then I go down a road of indulging and justifying all sorts of flesh-sin, don't I?

You might think you are clever, but we like to consult the Bible rather than Frenchies with girly names.

Heh heh--she said "semiology".

291 albusteve  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:04:12pm

re: #281 Decatur Deb

"gig"=the competition?

gig is a show, or performance, or a style that you do

292 Mr. Crankypants  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:04:42pm

re: #289 Walter L. Newton

Hey really bad puns are my gig..being cranky is yours...:)

293 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:05:10pm

re: #292 PT Barnum

Hey really bad puns are my gig..being cranky is yours...:)

Fuck you!

294 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:05:16pm

re: #285 PT Barnum

Okay..there should be a utility that you can run on the HP that will let you make a restore disk set from the restore partition.

You'll need about 5 or 6 CD-R or 2 or 3 DVD-R disks if you want to make it yourself, otherwise HP will sell you one for around $25.

I would do things in this order:
1) Back up the data
2) Blow out the inside of the PC. Make sure to blow out the Power Supply and the front of the Case as well, as they tend to collect a lot of dust.
3) Burn the restore disks in any case.

I have already bought a bunch of DVD-RW discs. Do I need to buy DVD-R discs for the Restore thingy?

295 Mr. Crankypants  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:05:21pm

re: #289 Walter L. Newton

I thought that's what people do that hate Foi Gras... "diss a pate"

or it's what you do if you don't like someone's toupee.

296 That's Sarah Palin's Science Advisor To You  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:05:44pm

re: #170 PT Barnum

He also had a bad case of equinophobia, hence the advice not to put Descartes before the horse

Well I caught a case of Equinophobia when I went and saw a production of Equus with that Harry Potter guy Daniel Radcliffe. I didn't know it was a nudie play.

297 Mr. Crankypants  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:05:46pm

re: #294 MandyManners

No you can use the RWs just fine.

298 Mr. Crankypants  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:06:34pm

re: #293 Walter L. Newton

And after I updinged you for that pun.... :(

299 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:06:41pm

re: #291 albusteve

Cool. You clarified in 284.

300 Varek Raith  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:07:05pm

re: #298 PT Barnum

And after I updinged you for that pun... :(

Well, you wanted cranky!
:P

301 albusteve  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:07:28pm

re: #294 MandyManners

I have already bought a bunch of DVD-RW discs. Do I need to buy DVD-R discs for the Restore thingy?

a few models back it took like 8 cd's...you need a tech, and get away from the browser you are using...is your security updated etc?

302 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:07:31pm

re: #300 Varek Raith

Well, you wanted cranky!
:P

You caught my point... I thought it was funny.

303 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:07:37pm

re: #282 prairiefire

Hi, SFZ. I thought of you when I saw this article this morning: [Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Ooooh. Nifty.

Thanks!

304 Mr. Crankypants  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:07:39pm

re: #300 Varek Raith

Well, you wanted cranky!
:P

True...I was kidding...actually I appreciate wordplay no matter who is doing it..

305 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:07:43pm

re: #289 Walter L. Newton

I thought that's what people do that hate Foi Gras... "diss a pate"

*falls over*

306 Achilles Tang  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:07:52pm

re: #263 Walter L. Newton

but if you call them probability lines instead of time lines there are more options since there may be a tendency to converge, but not necessarily a requirement; and then there is that vexing alien factor, in one probability line...

307 That's Sarah Palin's Science Advisor To You  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:07:58pm

Gotta Go Bye.

308 jaunte  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:08:12pm

re: #280 Charles

Hey, the shrieking harpy made it all the way onto Keith Olbermann's show tonight. She was in contention for the worst person award for her mind-bendingly horrific appearance on the Joy Behar show.

She's going to have to redouble her efforts, if she wants to win the prize.
That's going to be weird.

309 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:08:17pm

re: #293 Walter L. Newton

Fuck you!

FUCK YOU.

310 Mr. Crankypants  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:08:52pm

re: #309 MandyManners

You could have said Fuck You? which has a completely different meaning.

311 Varek Raith  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:08:55pm

re: #309 MandyManners

FUCK YOU.

Sure is a lot of fu...no, nevermind...
:)

312 Mr. Crankypants  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:09:10pm

I gotta say Pink Floyd makes great programming music...

313 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:09:26pm

re: #301 albusteve

a few models back it took like 8 cd's...you need a tech, and get away from the browser you are using...is your security updated etc?

Things are good!

314 prairiefire  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:09:35pm

Wow, we've got some interesting new hatchlings from yesterday's open reg. I wonder if there are more lurking.
Hi hatchlings, come out and introduce yourself!

315 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:09:44pm

re: #302 Walter L. Newton

You caught my point... I thought it was funny.

In bed?

316 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:10:31pm

re: #314 prairiefire

Wow, we've got some interesting new hatchlings from yesterday's open reg. I wonder if there are more lurking.
Hi hatchlings, come out and introduce yourself!

Go back!!! It's a trap.

317 albusteve  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:10:36pm

re: #312 PT Barnum

I gotta say Pink Floyd makes great programming music...

my favorite program music was 'Rawhide'

318 PhillyPretzel  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:10:50pm

re: #314 prairiefire

I believe one just left. Something about Sarah Palin's Science Advisor?

319 albusteve  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:11:33pm

re: #318 PhillyPretzel

I believe one just left. Something about Sarah Palin's Science Advisor?

some nic eh?....even worse than yours

320 Varek Raith  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:11:41pm

re: #318 PhillyPretzel

I believe one just left. Something about Sarah Palin's Science Advisor?

I don't think that's a 'new hatchling' if you know what I mean...
;)

321 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:11:45pm

re: #307 That's Sarah Palin's Science Advisor To You

Gotta Go Bye.

Yeah, well. Whatever. You're as significant as the leg on a flea on a dog's back.

322 reine.de.tout  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:11:57pm

re: #209 Naso Tang

Let us not forget the even more fun sound that comes from the hard drive, just before shit happens...

Last time my computer made a lot of noise, it was the hard drive. Crashing.


MANDY - take the computer in and let somebody look at it, wouldja? If you've never done it or if it's been awhile, it might just be time to let the professionals take a look and clean it up for you.

If it's your hard drive, they can back it up, install a new one and put all your stuff back. Or it might just be time to get a new one.

It'll be worth the time.

323 PhillyPretzel  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:12:00pm

re: #319 albusteve

Nic?

324 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:12:32pm

re: #262 PT Barnum

What brand PC? If it's an HP, they put the recovery files on a partition on the hard drive. You should be able to burn a recovery disk with a utility on the PC. Do that once you have your data files backed up.

WARNING: HP will not let you do a repair install of the OS, so if you have to start from scratch, you will lose all the data and programs on your drive and start with the hard drive in the state it was in when you bought the PC.

(I don't recommend HPs to my clients for this reason alone)

Since Vista came out, doing a repair install is not as strightforward as it was with XP and below...it's not something I'd recommend anyone that's not a geek to do anymore. A better solution is to save your valuable stuff to external media (burning to DVD is good, but saving it to an external hard drive is better), reinstall Windows from scratch, load all of the programs you use (like Office, etc.), and use a backup program to image your Windows partition after you have it set up like you like it (I use and recommend Acronis True Image Home) and save the image to DVD or an external hard drive.

325 prairiefire  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:12:37pm

re: #323 PhillyPretzel

Your LGF name.

326 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:12:38pm

re: #310 PT Barnum

You could have said Fuck You? which has a completely different meaning.

Yes, it does. According to you.

327 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:12:41pm

re: #306 Naso Tang

but if you call them probability lines instead of time lines there are more options since there may be a tendency to converge, but not necessarily a requirement; and then there is that vexing alien factor, in one probability line...

What alien factor?

And the producers are saying not to look at this years narrative technique as "alternate" time lines. They said "alternate" implies one is not valid, and they said that both time lines are very valid.

And you are right... probability lines... or more exact curved time like loops.

328 Varek Raith  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:12:47pm

re: #323 PhillyPretzel

Nic?

AKA, your username.

329 jaunte  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:12:51pm

re: #318 PhillyPretzel

I believe one just left. Something about Sarah Palin's Science Advisor?

I thought someone else was doing that channeling job.

330 prairiefire  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:12:55pm

re: #320 Varek Raith

A troll?

331 PhillyPretzel  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:13:03pm

re: #325 prairiefire

TY

332 Mr. Crankypants  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:13:22pm

re: #322 reine.de.tout

Last time my computer made a lot of noise, it was the hard drive. Crashing.

MANDY - take the computer in and let somebody look at it, wouldja? If you've never done it or if it's been awhile, it might just be time to let the professionals take a look and clean it up for you.

If it's your hard drive, they can back it up, install a new one and put all your stuff back. Or it might just be time to get a new one.

It'll be worth the time.

You're probably right about that, but then the way I learned all the stuff I know about PCs was by being too poor at the time to pay someone else to do it. I learned about plumbing that way too.

333 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:14:34pm

re: #324 talon_262

Since Vista came out, doing a repair install is not as strightforward as it was with XP and below...it's not something I'd recommend anyone that's not a geek to do anymore. A better solution is to save your valuable stuff to external media (burning to DVD is good, but saving it to an external hard drive is better), reinstall Windows from scratch, load all of the programs you use (like Office, etc.), and use a backup program to image your Windows partition after you have it set up like you like it (I use and recommend Acronis True Image Home) and save the image to DVD or an external hard drive.

My Penquinista kid beat my ears about Linux for years. Vista finally did it.

334 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:14:39pm

re: #312 PT Barnum

I gotta say Pink Floyd makes great programming music...

Might I introduce you to this?


Youtube Video
335 albusteve  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:14:53pm

re: #323 PhillyPretzel

Nic?

yes...like 'PhillyPretzel'....that's your nic

336 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:15:37pm

Supper... be back in a bit...

337 Varek Raith  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:15:58pm

Mandy, do you know how much ram your PC has?

338 Mr. Crankypants  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:16:02pm

re: #324 talon_262

Since Vista came out, doing a repair install is not as strightforward as it was with XP and below...it's not something I'd recommend anyone that's not a geek to do anymore. A better solution is to save your valuable stuff to external media (burning to DVD is good, but saving it to an external hard drive is better), reinstall Windows from scratch, load all of the programs you use (like Office, etc.), and use a backup program to image your Windows partition after you have it set up like you like it (I use and recommend Acronis True Image Home) and save the image to DVD or an external hard drive.

I'll take the recommendation for Acronis. I used Ghost for a while, but after the nightmares I've had with Norton, I don't buy Symantec products anymore.

339 albusteve  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:16:06pm

re: #336 Walter L. Newton

Supper... be back in a bit...

food is for whimps

340 Varek Raith  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:17:15pm

re: #339 albusteve

food is for whimps

Oh, go eat your words!
/:)

341 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:17:19pm

re: #270 That's Sarah Palin's Science Advisor To You

There you go with your homocentric efforts to confuse things that are pretty clear to most people.

I especially like your attempt to get me to reject dualism in favor of, say, a phenomenological view that might get me to go down the road to Heidegger's metaphysics and post-modernism. All sorts of "homo-sink-holes" in that forest, like semiology!

And if I accept dualism then I go down a road of indulging and justifying all sorts of flesh-sin, don't I?

You might think you are clever, but we like to consult the Bible rather than Frenchies with girly names.

I came back just to see your response...

That was brilliant.

I confess you saw all the way through my nested set of traps, though I was not going to pull Heidegger at you... even if he does not have a girly French name...

I was actually going to go the other route and in the course of you rejecting dualism, go for promoting German nihilism.

So let me get this clear... You like Dualism... However you also like Spinoza dude which implies a rejection of dualism....

Now... there being no transcendent to interface with the flesh, I was going to justify flesh sins through the rights of the individual to define morality as a local phenomena. After all, it is just a social construct followed by the weak willed and made by the ubermenschen.

Neitze is not girly...

SO I have to ask how do you use a bible you can not interface with on a spiritual level to reject the obvious rights of the individual to make his own morality?

342 Mr. Crankypants  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:18:22pm

re: #333 Decatur Deb

My Penquinista kid beat my ears about Linux for years. Vista finally did it.

I've got a spare PC running Linux, but I still have enough work related stuff that needs Windows, that I haven't spent any time on learning Linux. The learning curve is a little steep once you get past the pretty stuff, but I do like it.

343 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:18:29pm

re: #285 PT Barnum

Okay..there should be a utility that you can run on the HP that will let you make a restore disk set from the restore partition.

You'll need about 5 or 6 CD-R or 2 or 3 DVD-R disks if you want to make it yourself, otherwise HP will sell you one for around $25.

I would do things in this order:
1) Back up the data
2) Blow out the inside of the PC. Make sure to blow out the Power Supply and the front of the Case as well, as they tend to collect a lot of dust.
3) Burn the restore disks in any case.

Forgot to specifically say that, Mandy, but PT brought up a very good point about cleaning the power supply out real good (along with your heatsinks and all the nooks and crannies)...dust clogging up your power supply can potentially wreak havoc with your system (due to overheating) and possibly shorten its lifespan.

344 albusteve  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:18:35pm

re: #340 Varek Raith

Oh, go eat your words!
/:)

if I get hungry while I post, I just chew on an electric cord

345 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:18:48pm

re: #337 Varek Raith

Mandy, do you know how much ram your PC has?

Leave her alone!

//fellow non-techie here

346 albusteve  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:19:27pm

re: #345 SanFranciscoZionist

Leave her alone!

//fellow non-techie here

probably startled the poor girl...RAM?

347 Varek Raith  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:19:29pm

re: #345 SanFranciscoZionist

Leave her alone!

//fellow non-techie here

Heh...oops...

348 Mr. Crankypants  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:19:59pm

re: #346 albusteve

probably startled the poor girl...RAM?

Why is a Ram in the ass a goose?

349 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:20:09pm

re: #334 MandyManners

Beautiful girl, but it took "Monster" to prove her talent.

350 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:23:05pm

re: #324 talon_262

Since Vista came out, doing a repair install is not as strightforward as it was with XP and below...it's not something I'd recommend anyone that's not a geek to do anymore. A better solution is to save your valuable stuff to external media (burning to DVD is good, but saving it to an external hard drive is better), reinstall Windows from scratch, load all of the programs you use (like Office, etc.), and use a backup program to image your Windows partition after you have it set up like you like it (I use and recommend Acronis True Image Home) and save the image to DVD or an external hard drive.

We've all heard of polygamy.

I propose POLYANDRY.

351 albusteve  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:23:15pm

re: #343 talon_262

Forgot to specifically say that, Mandy, but PT brought up a very good point about cleaning the power supply out real good (along with your heatsinks and all the nooks and crannies)...dust clogging up your power supply can potentially wreak havoc with your system (due to overheating) and possibly shorten its lifespan.

I use my 8 gal compressor at 100lbs to clean out my machine...any loose parts just blow away

352 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:23:39pm

re: #338 PT Barnum

I'll take the recommendation for Acronis. I used Ghost for a while, but after the nightmares I've had with Norton, I don't buy Symantec products anymore.

Acronis TIH has its quirks too, but, by and large, it does what I want it to do (I'm a former Symantec/Norton user myself...haven't touched their crap in years, since they went all bloaty) .

353 Varek Raith  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:23:53pm

re: #351 albusteve

I use my 8 gal compressor at 100lbs to clean out my machine...any loose parts just blow away

Needz moar power!!11!

354 jaunte  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:24:50pm

re: #350 MandyManners

You're going to need a couple of guys just to keep up with the polylaundry.

355 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:25:05pm

re: #337 Varek Raith

Mandy, do you know how much ram your PC has?

Ram?

Are you some kinda' fucking sicko' who thinks my computer is dominated by RAHM EMMANUEL?

356 albusteve  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:25:15pm

re: #353 Varek Raith

Needz moar power!!11!

found my video card across the bunkhouse one time...memory chips down the hall

357 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:25:54pm

re: #355 MandyManners

Ram?

Are you some kinda' fucking sicko' who thinks my computer is dominated by RAHM EMMANUEL?

Would explain the FUs.

358 albusteve  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:26:03pm

re: #356 albusteve

found my video card across the bunkhouse one time...memory chips down the hall

they were dust free tho

359 Achilles Tang  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:26:04pm

re: #350 MandyManners

We've all heard of polygamy.

I propose POLYANDRY.

So that's why you keep saying fuck you.

360 PhillyPretzel  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:26:06pm

re: #355 MandyManners

Random Access Memory= RAM

361 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:26:30pm

re: #351 albusteve

I use my 8 gal compressor at 100lbs to clean out my machine...any loose parts just blow away

I've though about using my portable air compressor/tank to do PC cleanup with, but I've heard that compressor oil can do a real number on electrical components/motherboard traces, so I stick with (expensive) canned air for now.

362 Mr. Crankypants  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:26:39pm

re: #355 MandyManners

Ram?

Are you some kinda' fucking sicko' who thinks my computer is dominated by RAHM EMMANUEL?

Mandy is not fuckin' retarded..she's fuckin' disgusted...

363 albusteve  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:26:40pm

re: #355 MandyManners

Ram?

Are you some kinda' fucking sicko' who thinks my computer is dominated by RAHM EMMANUEL?

you need 8 megs of RAM....get some

364 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:27:03pm

re: #349 Decatur Deb

Beautiful girl, but it took "Monster" to prove her talent.

No. The WOMAN's talent was proved with her role in The Devil's Advocate.

WOMAN.

WOMAN.

WOMAN.

365 Achilles Tang  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:27:28pm

re: #357 Decatur Deb

Would explain the FUs.

seems like there is more complexity than meets the eye here.

366 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:27:35pm

re: #354 jaunte

You're going to need a couple of guys just to keep up with the polylaundry.

Yep.

367 albusteve  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:27:44pm

re: #361 talon_262

I've though about using my portable air compressor/tank to do PC cleanup with, but I've heard that compressor oil can do a real number on electrical components/motherboard traces, so I stick with (expensive) canned air for now.

mine is oiless...Campbell-Hausfeld...WHOOSH!

368 Mr. Crankypants  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:27:52pm

WEll I gotta go..you guys have fun..hope that helped Mandy..

369 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:28:12pm

re: #357 Decatur Deb

Would explain the FUs.

HA!

370 Varek Raith  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:28:16pm

re: #363 albusteve

you need 8 megs of RAM...get some

8megs?!?! Pffttt 640Kb is plenty enough!
/ignore this post non techie lizards!
:)

371 Achilles Tang  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:28:39pm

re: #363 albusteve

you need 8 megs of RAM...get some

What are you running, Windows 95, or Dos 6.0?

372 keloyd  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:28:47pm

Breaking news - Congressman Charlie Wilson, of Charlie Wilson's War died today. He was the coolest congressman ever, and I hope he's in the part of Heaven that has all the really talented moonshine distillers and girls went who were good, but not too good.

373 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:28:53pm

re: #364 MandyManners

No. The WOMAN's talent was proved with her role in The Devil's Advocate.

WOMAN.

WOMAN.

WOMAN.

If you weren't born in the FDR administration, you're a girl. Or a boy.

374 albusteve  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:29:43pm

re: #370 Varek Raith

8megs?!?! Pffttt 640Kb is plenty enough!
/ignore this post non techie lizards!
:)

my new HP 6210 comes with 8 megs...sweet

375 albusteve  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:31:10pm

re: #371 Naso Tang

What are you running, Windows 95, or Dos 6.0?

heh...Windows 95 was the last decent OS they made...all the rest are bells and whistles to clog you up

376 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:36:52pm

re: #375 albusteve

heh...Windows 95 was the last decent OS they made...all the rest are bells and whistles to clog you up

Bah...Windows 95/98 was nothing more than a 32-bit GUI shell for DOS. Good for its time, but woefully out-of date now.

Gimme that 64-bit Win7 Ultimate (which I do run on my main machine) or even 64-bit Vista SP2...I seriously think those are Microsoft's best OS offerings to date.

377 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:38:08pm

re: #158 LudwigVanQuixote

Wow!

Well I am a scholar... I believe that Hashem will provide.

You can look at that two ways...

1. I have the paltry salary of a scientist... but emunah...

OR

2. I will think that you and your husband are God!

Wrong answer!

You are supposed to think that my daughter is a goddess!

But, that's OK, as long as you can provide her with an environmentally friendly 6 bedroom home, on the beach, with a walk in closet in each bedroom for her shoe collection. And when I come to visit, I get the room with the jacuzzi. I'm sure that, as a brilliant scientist, you can come up with the plans for a green kitchen with all the top green appliances so my daughter shouldn't have to lift a finger. An environmentally-conscious maid who does windows and recycling will be appreciated.

Now, just send me your vaccinations and your most recent income tax statement and we can get down to business.

378 Varek Raith  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:44:04pm

re: #376 talon_262

Bah...Windows 95/98 was nothing more than a 32-bit GUI shell for DOS. Good for its time, but woefully out-of date now.

Gimme that 64-bit Win7 Ultimate (which I do run on my main machine) or even 64-bit Vista SP2...I seriously think those are Microsoft's best OS offerings to date.

I still like XP over Vista. 7, I don't have...yet. With Vista, I had to tweak the hell out of it to get it to my liking. To much unneeded crap running at startup or in the background...
:)

379 ryannon  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:47:47pm

re: #204 PT Barnum

There are only a few moving parts in the system, which all belong to things that go round and round.

Youtube Video
380 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 6:57:57pm

re: #378 Varek Raith

I still like XP over Vista. 7, I don't have...yet. With Vista, I had to tweak the hell out of it to get it to my liking. To much unneeded crap running at startup or in the background...
:)

I agree that Vista (and 7 as well, to some extent) are more needy for system resources than XP is, but the fact is that XP went gold almost 9 years ago and will be completely EOL'd for support real soon (pretty much all support cut off except for critical patches and hotfixes, IIRC). Besides, XP was considered resource-heavy IIRC when it debuted, so of course it's gonna run like a scalded cat on modern machines with much more computing power available.

Computing power today for consumers is dirt-cheap and I think that, out of the box, Win7 (and even the much-maligned Vista) are a more secure and user-friendly experience than XP ever was or could be (and I still dual-boot XP for certain special tasks, such as flashing the BIOS on my video card).

XP has had a good run, but it's time is pretty much done, IMO.

381 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Feb 10, 2010 7:11:39pm

re: #377 Alouette

Now, just send me your vaccinations and your most recent income tax statement and we can get down to business.

And a DNA sample so that we can match your ancestry to the Remulakian Zionist Overlord dynasty.

382 huggy77  Thu, Feb 11, 2010 4:58:46am

The contact at bitly-api seems very nice... I don't always agree with Charles politics but he is the code master. I started using Ajax when he started touting it a while ago. Thanks to him i am keeping my own hamsters motivated and working hard!


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