Man Charged with Stockpiling Weapons: Tea Partier and Palin Fan

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A Massachusetts man arrested Tuesday and charged with possessing explosives and a stockpile of weapons was a tea partier and a fan of Sarah Palin.

As we reported yesterday, Gregory Girard, a Manchester technology consultant, was found with a stash of military grade weapons, explosive devices including tear gas and pepper ball canisters, camouflage clothing, knives, handcuffs, bulletproof vests and helmets, and night vision goggles, say police. They believe Girard, who pleaded not guilty at his arraignment, was “preparing for domestic and political turmoil,” and feared martial law would soon be imposed.

Girard’s wife said her husband had recently told her: “Don’t talk to people, shoot them instead,” and “it’s fine to shoot people in the head because traitors deserve it.”

But it appears that Girard had lately found a community with which to share some of his growing fears. A “Greg Girard,” listing his location as Manchester, Mass., has a personal page on the “Patriots of America” online network, a popular site affiliated with the Tea Party movement. The phone number listed on the page is the same as the number listed on the website of Girard’s consulting firm, which appears to have been run out of his home.

Girard’s apparent apocalyptic anxiety about a coming effort by federal thugs to crack down on personal liberties surfaced frequently on his Tea Party page. His writings may shed light on the mindset that allegedly led him to assemble his arsenal.

For instance, just last week, after another Tea Partier wrote a post railing against gun registries, Girard responded by invoking a potential “murderous rampage” by “state and Federal gangsta’s (sic),” trying to take his weapons.

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84 comments
1 Varek Raith  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:02:11pm

What right wing extremists?
/
:eyeroll:

2 Ojoe  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:02:14pm

Feh.
You don't need a lot of weapons.

3 Obdicut  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:02:38pm

Oh, those federal Gangstas.

I wonder where he got that idea?

4 albusteve  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:02:52pm

re: #2 Ojoe

Feh.
You don't need a lot of weapons.

just plenty of ammo

5 Kragar  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:02:55pm

Who doesn't have a stockpile of miltiary grade weapons and explosives sitting around there home?

///

6 Kragar  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:03:22pm

re: #4 albusteve

just plenty of ammo

Or mad skills.

/flex

7 Obdicut  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:04:20pm

re: #5 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I'm half-hoping for significant GOP victories in 2010 just because I'm concerned that some of the guys like this dude will rampage if they don't.

8 Varek Raith  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:04:41pm

re: #5 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Who doesn't have a stockpile of miltiary grade weapons and explosives sitting around there home?

///

I have 7 Planetary Doomsday Machines, 3 Galactic Doomsday Machines and 2 Universal Doomsday Machines.

...and a mutated strain of anthrax...for duck hunting.
/

9 TampaKnight  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:05:31pm

I'm polishing my mounted 30mm Mk266 Bushmaster cannon as we speak.

It'll look great on my armored combat vehicle out back.

10 Political Atheist  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:06:49pm

Judging by the pictures the guns were too many to list!

11 Obdicut  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:07:25pm

re: #3 Obdicut

Man, I hadn't watched that in awhile.

She is goddamn crazy. And her talk is incredibly, dangerously irresponsible.

12 Political Atheist  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:07:25pm

re: #7 Obdicut

Not going to happen.

13 albusteve  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:08:42pm

re: #10 Rightwingconspirator

Judging by the pictures the guns were too many to list!

check out those land mines on the right...some serious home D there....I only have barbed wire and Claymores

14 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:08:50pm

From the first link:

On Monday, Girard's wife, a psychiatrist, contacted town police to express concern about her husband's increasing paranoia and apparent stockpiling of weapons, prosecutor Honor Segal said yesterday in court.

At least she's qualified to turn him in for paranoia. However, an "apparent stockpiling of weapons" seems to be something that had to get a bit out of hand before she noticed.

15 TampaKnight  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:08:51pm

PS Our Marines, along with NATO, is launching a major offensive tomorrow in Afghanistan.

God bless, boys.

16 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:10:23pm

re: #15 TampaKnight

May they be successful.

17 Varek Raith  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:10:24pm

re: #13 albusteve

check out those land mines on the right...some serious home D there...I only have barbed wire and Claymores

I modified my Claymores to blast Scottish Claymores at there targets.
Quite the sight.
:)

18 Kragar  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:10:51pm

If this were a Monty Python skit, this guy would fail rule one in how not to be seen.

19 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:11:14pm

*sigh* It's all there: Weapons, paranoia, hatred of the feds, survival preparations, racism ("federal gangsta's").

As I mentioned earlier, the idea of the feds as the Enemy of the right really seems to date from the mid-60s and the success of the Civil Rights movement. The various elements of this movement were solidly in place by the late 80s: Survivalism, racism and a consequent distrust of federal power, and apocalyptic religious fantasies. What we see now is simply an elaboration and a long-predicted move into the mainstream.

20 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:12:19pm

Sigh. Between people like him & the nutjobs running the NRA...

That said, I picked up a very nice 4" Smith & Wesson Model 64 today.

Willia

21 TampaKnight  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:12:51pm

re: #19 Shiplord Kirel

*sigh* It's all there: Weapons, paranoia, hatred of the feds, survival preparations, racism ("federal gangsta's").

As I mentioned earlier, the idea of the feds as the Enemy of the right really seems to date from the mid-60s and the success of the Civil Rights movement. The various elements of this movement were solidly in place by the late 80s: Survivalism, racism and a consequent distrust of federal power, and apocalyptic religious fantasies. What we see now is simply an elaboration and a long-predicted move into the mainstream.

I think a skepticism of huge accumulation of federal power is well justified....hate and unjustified paranoia is not.

22 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:14:12pm

The spooky thing is that the Tea Parties give these people a chance to get together. So far we've been very lucky that these guys have been caught before they can do any damage and they've been more or less acting alone. If a few of these guys get together and start making plans we could easily see a significant terrorist attack.

23 simoom  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:14:36pm

From the article:

I have studied the "National Security Force," which is Obama's name for the secret police force he is creating. I have read the new law that gives them the right to operate as an extension of the DoD, carrying firearms, and executing search warrants, executing arrest warrants, and the like. Needless to say, it's a secret police force of some kind, and it appears likely to be created from inner city youths.

The said thing about all this is that this guy's particular brand of crazy is pretty unexceptional these days. You find similar ravings in discussion forums and comment sections all across the internet.

24 UncleMonkey  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:15:37pm

And yet, show Captain America getting Hawkman to infiltrate a group based on them and everyone gets their panties in a bunch.

25 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:15:48pm

re: #21 TampaKnight

I think a skepticism of huge accumulation of federal power is well justified...hate and unjustified paranoia is not.

Unfortunately there isn't a real conversation about legitimate concerns from the American right. They are mostly living in a paranoid fantasy of conspiracies. There's not much of a conversation to be had.

26 simoom  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:16:02pm

re: #23 simoom

The said thing about all this is

err, sad thing even.

27 Kragar  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:16:29pm

re: #23 simoom

From the article:

The said thing about all this is that this guy's particular brand of crazy is pretty unexceptional these days. You find similar ravings in discussion forums and comment sections all across the internet.

The term "nuttier than a squirrel's turd" comes to mind.

28 jamesfirecat  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:16:34pm

Wait? Didn't we already talk about this story a while back? He had a grenade launcher.....

(I joke I know its a different kook, just about the same MO isn't it though?)

29 Kragar  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:17:24pm

re: #24 UncleMonkey

And yet, show Captain America getting Hawkman to infiltrate a group based on them and everyone gets their panties in a bunch.

Well yeah! Captain America is Marvel and Hawkman is DC. It could never happen.

Sheesh.

/

30 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:17:45pm

re: #23 simoom

You find similar ravings in discussion forums and comment sections all across the internet.


Not just the internet. Fox news has given ACORN conspiracies MSM coverage. Republican leaders also give the fear of "inner city" secret organizations legitimacy.

31 jamesfirecat  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:19:03pm

re: #7 Obdicut

I'm half-hoping for significant GOP victories in 2010 just because I'm concerned that some of the guys like this dude will rampage if they don't.

I say let them rampage it will bring all this uglyness out into the open where it can be dealt with and we can lance this boil once and for all.

If we let them win it'll only make the bill we end up paying that much worse since they'll be feeling even more entitled to victory and getting their way.

(Not that I don't feel bad about the cost of life, I'm just saying lets not kick this can down the road any further...)

32 TampaKnight  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:19:11pm

re: #25 Killgore Trout

Unfortunately there isn't a real conversation about legitimate concerns from the American Tea Party loudmouth right. They are mostly living in a paranoid fantasy of conspiracies. There's not much of a conversation to be had.

FIFY

33 UncleMonkey  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:19:23pm

re: #29 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Arrrgh! Yeah you're right. I meant Falcon.

Oops.

34 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:20:36pm

re: #20 wlewisiii

Sigh. Between people like him & the nutjobs running the NRA...

That said, I picked up a very nice 4" Smith & Wesson Model 64 today.

Willia

Very cool. I've always been an S&W fan though my daily choice remains an M-1911, as it has for 40 years.
In rifles, I am fond of single-shots and have two Ruger #1s, a .223 varminter and a 45/70 standard. I also have a good Martini-Henry .303 conversion. This isn't nearly as valuable as an original .455 type but it has the great advantage of using available ammo. I really like the cheap Rossi single-shot guns and have a couple of them. One is a .22/.410 combination (interchangeable barrels, not over/under) that I bought brand new for a little over a hundred bucks just two years ago.

35 albusteve  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:20:54pm

re: #31 jamesfirecat

I say let them rampage it will bring all this uglyness out into the open where it can be dealt with and we can lance this boil once and for all.

If we let them win it'll only make the bill we end up paying that much worse since they'll be feeling even more entitled to victory and getting their way.

(Not that I don't feel bad about the cost of life, I'm just saying lets not kick this can down the road any further...)

I say that's hyperbole

36 jamesfirecat  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:20:55pm

re: #29 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Well yeah! Captain America is Marvel and Hawkman is DC. It could never happen.

Sheesh.

/

He meant Hawkeye cut him some slack...

37 Stonemason  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:21:09pm

re: #31 jamesfirecat

They tried that in Philly with an armed group, it was a mess.

They tried that in Waco with an armed group, it was a mess.

They tried that at Ruby Ridge, with an armed group, it was a mess.


Nope, the best way to deal with this is for wives and husbands to wake up and turn in the nut-jobs.

38 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:22:07pm

Well if he were a True Patriot® he'd take an RPG and open carry into a Starbucks. You know those open carry rights - use em' or lose em'.

Since he hasn't open carried an RPG into a Starbucks he is just a decently armed RINO.

39 simoom  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:22:08pm

re: #28 jamesfirecat

Wait? Didn't we already talk about this story a while back? He had a grenade launcher...

No wait, wasn't it 'dirty bomb' components?

40 Racer X  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:22:09pm

Tea Parties= pile of shit? or are they the flies?

41 jamesfirecat  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:22:26pm

re: #37 Stonemason

They tried that in Philly with an armed group, it was a mess.

They tried that in Waco with an armed group, it was a mess.

They tried that at Ruby Ridge, with an armed group, it was a mess.

Nope, the best way to deal with this is for wives and husbands to wake up and turn in the nut-jobs.

I'm not saying we should turn a blind eye to what they're about to do.

I'm just saying I don't hope that people like this get what they want politically. I hope it is denied to them and if that makes them bubble over with crazy, so be it.....

42 Kragar  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:22:45pm

re: #36 jamesfirecat

He meant Hawkeye cut him some slack...

See 33

No slack will be cut.

43 Varek Raith  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:23:36pm

re: #42 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

See 33

No slack will be cut.

Comic Books Is Serious Business!
:)

44 Racer X  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:24:25pm

re: #37 Stonemason

Nope, the best way to deal with this is for wives and husbands to wake up and turn in the nut-jobs.

Mostly the wives I would guess. Women always seem to be the voice of reason in a civilized society.

45 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:24:36pm

re: #40 Racer X

Tea Parties= pile of shit? or are they the flies?

They are the odor which -

1) attracts many flies, and
2) indicates what you will find if you dig around a bit.

46 Stonemason  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:27:32pm

re: #41 jamesfirecat


Big brush painting hurts some very good ideas. Nut-jobs taking over anything hurts good ideas.

How many tea-partiers are armed like this?
How many CPUSA members are armed like this?
How many ELF members know how to make bombs?

There are nut-jobs, there will always be nut jobs. This one was caught before he went off, others will be too.

I understand there is a tendency to use incidents like this to degrade an entire group of people, but that doesn't work, it never has and never will.
I am glad the idiot was caught and will be stopped, I feel that the extremes on both sides of the aisle are nearing a breaking point, it scares me.

47 Stonemason  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:28:00pm

re: #44 Racer X

I was being politically correct

48 Racer X  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:28:19pm

re: #44 Racer X

Mostly the wives I would guess. Women always seem to be the voice of reason in a civilized society.

Perhaps not always.

/next thread.

49 prairiefire  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:28:48pm

re: #44 Racer X

What a great statement! I'm sure your wife is also sensible. I am not anti-male, just anti-idiot.

50 Silvergirl  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:29:28pm

re: #3 Obdicut

Oh, those federal Gangstas.

I wonder where he got that idea?


[Video]

I thought you were talking about Roland Martin urging Obama to go gangsta.

51 jamesfirecat  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:29:29pm

re: #46 Stonemason

Big brush painting hurts some very good ideas. Nut-jobs taking over anything hurts good ideas.

How many tea-partiers are armed like this?
How many CPUSA members are armed like this?
How many ELF members know how to make bombs?

There are nut-jobs, there will always be nut jobs. This one was caught before he went off, others will be too.

I understand there is a tendency to use incidents like this to degrade an entire group of people, but that doesn't work, it never has and never will.
I am glad the idiot was caught and will be stopped, I feel that the extremes on both sides of the aisle are nearing a breaking point, it scares me.

My point was in response to

"I'm half-hoping for significant GOP victories in 2010 just because I'm concerned that some of the guys like this dude will rampage if they don't."

I view this as a bad way of thinking. It is kicking the can down the road till the next time they're voted out of power in my opinion.

Does that make my point more clear?

52 prairiefire  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:32:18pm

I can't wait to tell my husband this was an IT guy, hee....

53 Irenicum  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:32:28pm

Damn! That nut lives only a few miles from me! Glad they stopped him before he did anything.

54 Silvergirl  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:33:04pm

re: #50 Silvergirl

I thought you were talking about Roland Martin urging Obama to go gangsta.

I meant to add this before I hit post.

Martin:

Obama's critics keep blasting him for Chicago-style politics. So, fine. Channel your inner Al Capone and go gangsta against your foes. Let 'em know that if they aren't with you, they are against you, and will pay the price.

55 researchok  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:33:14pm

People want to assign political affiliations to violent nutjobs, as if somehow their politics were the 'root cause'.

The truth is that these people, whoever they might be, are simply immoral.

Conservative beliefs and affiliation do not turn people into criminals any more than liberal beliefs and affiliations turn anyone into criminals. Prisons are filled with people who have espoused all kinds of political beliefs. The truth is that they are in prison because they behaved in an immoral way.

No matter what we believe, we have choices- we can live morally or we can choose to live immorally.

There have been saints and sinners since the beginning of time. Blaming bad behavior on politics or religion or race or creed says more about the finger pointer than anything else.

It really is that simple.

56 Stonemason  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:33:21pm

re: #51 jamesfirecat

I got your point, you feel that GOP policies are, for the lack of a better term, lousy. That's fine, some of them are and some of them are not.

You want the 'fight' to happen, you even went as far as to mention loss of life...

(Not that I don't feel bad about the cost of life, I'm just saying lets not kick this can down the road any further...)

You called for letting these nut-jobs out so they can be killed.

I simply pointed out that it had been tried, and it did not work.

As for the kicking the can down the road, I can only assume that you mean that the killing should happen now instead of later...

57 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:36:15pm

re: #34 Shiplord Kirel

Very cool. I've always been an S&W fan though my daily choice remains an M-1911, as it has for 40 years.
In rifles, I am fond of single-shots and have two Ruger #1s, a .223 varminter and a 45/70 standard. I also have a good Martini-Henry .303 conversion. This isn't nearly as valuable as an original .455 type but it has the great advantage of using available ammo. I really like the cheap Rossi single-shot guns and have a couple of them. One is a .22/.410 combination (interchangeable barrels, not over/under) that I bought brand new for a little over a hundred bucks just two years ago.

I keep eyeing those Nepalese Martini-Henry's that have been imported lately but shootables are too rich for my budget. Same with the 1871 Mausers that were reworked for the Tom Cruise Samurai flick a few years back.

My rifle is a Mauser 93 in 7x57 though I plan to upgrade to either a Ruger #1 or a Mauser 98 based rife in 7x57 someday. Probably the 98 sooner & the Ruger down the road. Something like a SU-16 for plinking would be fun too.

I need to get out and pattern my Ithaca 37 one soon - I picked in the wild turkey spring lottery so I get to go hunting in April :) Makes up for Happy Tax Day ;)

William

58 jamesfirecat  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:36:45pm

re: #56 Stonemason

I got your point, you feel that GOP policies are, for the lack of a better term, lousy. That's fine, some of them are and some of them are not.

You want the 'fight' to happen, you even went as far as to mention loss of life...

You called for letting these nut-jobs out so they can be killed.

I simply pointed out that it had been tried, and it did not work.

As for the kicking the can down the road, I can only assume that you mean that the killing should happen now instead of later...

By kicking the can down the road, I mean that does it make sense that the more these people see their particular political opinions gratified, the more harshly they'll react when things turn against them.

Thus the sooner we figure out how to deal with them the better.

Would you say that the craziness has been worse under Obama than it has been durring Clinton? I think that if we get a (god forbid) President Palin for 4 years, followed by her getting replaced by a democratic president in 2016 then the Crazy reaction would once again be even worse.

We need to find some kind of solution the sooner the better, and giving these people what they want isn't it.

59 Silvergirl  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:38:45pm

re: #23 simoom

From the article:

The said thing about all this is that this guy's particular brand of crazy is pretty unexceptional these days. You find similar ravings in discussion forums and comment sections all across the internet.

If the internet had been around in the volatile 60s, the brand of crazy (not the peacenik variety) rampant then would have picked up some real momentum. I wonder how large Manson's family could have been.

60 prairiefire  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:39:40pm

You folks talk about guns like I talk about vintage toys. Same enthusiasm, different items.

61 Lidane  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:42:22pm

re: #23 simoom

From the article:

The said thing about all this is that this guy's particular brand of crazy is pretty unexceptional these days. You find similar ravings in discussion forums and comment sections all across the internet.

And on C-SPAN, if that crazy rant from Michele Bachmann is anything to go by.

62 Lidane  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:48:34pm

re: #21 TampaKnight

I think a skepticism of huge accumulation of federal power is well justified...hate and unjustified paranoia is not.

Which should make this development that much more interesting:

Conservative manifesto coming soon

What they are calling “the Mount Vernon Statement” in homage to George Washington will be unveiled and signed Wednesday — on the eve of the annual gathering in Washington of the establishment right, the Conservative Political Action Conference.

The big names attached to it include former Attorney General Ed Meese, Heritage Foundation President Edwin Feulner, Family Research Council head Tony Perkins, Media Research Center leader Brent Bozell, Americans for Tax Reform President Grover Norquist and David Keene, head of the American Conservative Union, which is putting on CPAC, among others.

I'm curious to see what they consider a conservative manifesto. Should be quite the read.

63 jordash1212  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 3:50:55pm

Think the ACLU will defend him?

//sarcasm

64 fizzlogic  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 4:00:44pm

The confiscation of weapons during Katrina, is that true?

65 simoom  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 4:01:38pm

re: #62 Lidane

I'm curious to see what they consider a conservative manifesto. Should be quite the read.

I think this is where it will be posted:
[Link: www.contractfromamerica.com...]

The ticking countdown widget seems to say there's ~5Hrs until the document is release, though I could have sworn it said the same thing when I looked yesterday :P.

66 Stonemason  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 4:12:00pm

re: #58 jamesfirecat

You skipped 8 years of insanity from the left. Did you miss that?

There will always be nut-jobs, both left and right, it is human nature. I mentioned two on the left already, do I need to add more? I know the right has its share, I can list them too. I am not a part of that, but I do not simply ignore it either. By skipping over the eight years of calls for hanging President Bush you ignore the nuts in your own party.

These are isolated incidents, not attached to those of us who are relatively sane. I was pointing out the you called for the death of people, to be honest I should have ignored it, and not quoted it 'cause now I am going to have another post removed when Stinky finds both of them.
I don't want the extremes on either side to win elections, it happens sometimes, but for the most part we are a Center country and I like that.

67 Lidane  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 4:15:40pm

re: #65 simoom

I think this is where it will be posted:
[Link: www.contractfromamerica.com...]

The ticking countdown widget seems to say there's ~5Hrs until the document is release, though I could have sworn it said the same thing when I looked yesterday :P.

According to the Politico article I posted, that Contract From America thing is a completely separate statement from the Mount Vernon one that the article focuses on. That means that CPAC will have at least two different manifestos claiming to be the standard for conservatism.

I'll be interested in seeing the differences between the two when they come out.

68 jamesfirecat  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 4:34:53pm

re: #66 Stonemason

You skipped 8 years of insanity from the left. Did you miss that?

There will always be nut-jobs, both left and right, it is human nature. I mentioned two on the left already, do I need to add more? I know the right has its share, I can list them too. I am not a part of that, but I do not simply ignore it either. By skipping over the eight years of calls for hanging President Bush you ignore the nuts in your own party.

These are isolated incidents, not attached to those of us who are relatively sane. I was pointing out the you called for the death of people, to be honest I should have ignored it, and not quoted it 'cause now I am going to have another post removed when Stinky finds both of them.
I don't want the extremes on either side to win elections, it happens sometimes, but for the most part we are a Center country and I like that.

Either way regardless of which party is in power I wish the crazies on either fringe to be denied power.

To give it to them just because we're afraid of what they might do if they're denied it, that's more or less tantamount to giving into domestic terrorism isn't it?

69 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 5:00:38pm

re: #7 Obdicut

I'm half-hoping for significant GOP victories in 2010 just because I'm concerned that some of the guys like this dude will rampage if they don't.

I'm honestly not sure that's going to cool them down, especially if the GOP victories are, you know, victories of sane Republicans.

70 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 5:02:11pm

re: #14 wrenchwench

From the first link:

At least she's qualified to turn him in for paranoia. However, an "apparent stockpiling of weapons" seems to be something that had to get a bit out of hand before she noticed.

I don't know at what exact point I would think a husband had gone from 'collecting weapons' to 'kind of overdoing it' to 'call local cops, we have a problem'.

She may have been worried for some time, but...

71 Obdicut  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 5:02:21pm

re: #69 SanFranciscoZionist

Sigh. Good point.

I just hope the SS, the FBI, and everyone else is getting all the funding they need in these darker times.

72 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 5:05:24pm

re: #60 prairiefire

You folks talk about guns like I talk about vintage toys. Same enthusiasm, different items.

Perfume!

73 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 5:07:05pm

re: #63 jordash1212

Think the ACLU will defend him?

//sarcasm

If it's a free speech issue, sure. I don't think it's a free speech issue.

They did defend those horrible children who went to school with t-shirts that said "Islam is of the devil".

74 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 5:08:07pm

re: #70 SanFranciscoZionist

I don't know at what exact point I would think a husband had gone from 'collecting weapons' to 'kind of overdoing it' to 'call local cops, we have a problem'.

She may have been worried for some time, but...

The pile of weapons shown actually speaks more to "collector gone wild". He had too many similar weapons to make any useful sense for a lone wolf shootout scenario.

75 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 5:10:43pm

re: #74 Decatur Deb

The pile of weapons shown actually speaks more to "collector gone wild". He had too many similar weapons to make any useful sense for a lone wolf shootout scenario.

Could be a obsessive-compulsive thing, that sometimes manifests in spiralling collecting behavior. A friend of mine used to be married to a guy who accumulated more geckos and snakes than could reasonably share a double-wide trailer with them before she realized he was going haywire. Could also be he had some idea he'd be able to supply others in some future apocalyptic scenario.

76 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 5:11:35pm

re: #75 SanFranciscoZionist

Could be a obsessive-compulsive thing, that sometimes manifests in spiralling collecting behavior. A friend of mine used to be married to a guy who accumulated more geckos and snakes than could reasonably share a double-wide trailer with them before she realized he was going haywire. Could also be he had some idea he'd be able to supply others in some future apocalyptic scenario.

I mean, this guy may have imagined he could supply others with guns. I don't think my friend's ex had any idea that he could supply others with geckos.

77 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 5:12:35pm

re: #76 SanFranciscoZionist

I mean, this guy may have imagined he could supply others with guns. I don't think my friend's ex had any idea that he could supply others with geckos.

Herptopalyse.

78 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 5:13:19pm

re: #77 Decatur Deb

Blew it--Herptopalypse.

79 William of Orange  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 6:23:11pm

Karma is a bitch....

These folks are so stubborn not to accept a government, chosen for and by the people. They failed to realize they lost. In the process they also fail to see THEY are the domestic terrorists Bush warned them for. They were created by fear by the White House.


Heroes of the right..... Idiots!

80 William of Orange  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 6:27:32pm

re: #7 Obdicut

I'm half-hoping for significant GOP victories in 2010 just because I'm concerned that some of the guys like this dude will rampage if they don't.

So you're willing to give in to these extremists? What different are you then from the Afghan people suffering under the Taliban? Are you willing to live under the rule of religious fanatics who would rather crush you than live up to the creed of the United States?

Religious freedom is a great good. And if you don't believe that's fine too. It's your own choice. No one should suffer under a God.

81 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 6:30:56pm

re: #79 William of Orange

Willam--You are posting to a "dead" thread, so your comments probably won't be answered. Most people are moving up to the music thread.

82 William of Orange  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 6:34:24pm

re: #81 Decatur Deb

Yeah, I know. I'm living a few timezones ahead. ;)

83 Obdicut  Fri, Feb 12, 2010 6:40:01pm

re: #80 William of Orange

Nah. That's what the 'half' part is. Seriously, it's just a reflection on how twisted things are right now.

84 ulmsey123  Sat, Feb 13, 2010 6:04:07am

As a tea party attendee, I can tell you what I want: A government that adheres to the Constitution and elected representatives that do not lie, cheat and steal.
There are indeed "right wing nutbags". And from the left also.
But all of you, Charles included, had better remember that MOST of the Tea Party protesters are average people who are watching government at all levels grow out f control. To the average homeowner, government is THE biggest single expense.

Sure there are those who are trying to control or use the protests to advance themselves. Sure there are extremists. But they are not the rule. The American people, as a whole, are very very angry. And we are employing our right, as a people, to assemble. The Founding Fathers thought that important. You all may think you know better than they, I suppose.
Throwing insults at us and writing headlines equating extreme illegal behavior and the legitimate anger of American citizens is simply rude and ignorant.

There's nothing wrong with taking pretty pictures of the ocean. I do it too. But I would suggest finding a nice blue collar diner and hear what the real people are thinking. Not the elitists on television.


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