Interview with a Nigerian Email Scammer

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Anyone with an email account connected to the Internet has received them — seemingly endless variations on weirdly phrased emails pretending to be from semi-famous people, offering millions of dollars if you’ll help do something that seems slightly shady. They often originate in Nigeria, and they’re a plague upon the web. And they actually do trick some people into giving away their money.

Want to know how a Nigerian email scammer thinks?

Scam-Detective: What kind of scams were you involved with?

John: Mainly advance fee fraud where we would tell people that someone has died and left millions in a bank or safety deposit box and that we needed help to get it out of the country. That is the most successful type of scam, but I also did Phishing to try and get user names and passwords for peoples online bank accounts.

Scam-Detective: How did you find victims for your scams?

John: First you need to understand how the gangs work. At the bottom are the “foot soldiers”, kids who spend all of their time online to find email addresses and send out the first emails to get people interested. When they receive a reply, the victim is passed up the chain, to someone who has better English to get copies of ID from them like copies of their passport and driving licenses and build up trust. Then when they are ready to ask for money, they are passed further up again to someone who will pretend to be a barrister or shipping agent who will tell the victim that they need to pay charges or even a bribe to get the big cash amount out of the country. When they pay up, the gang master will collect the money from the Western Union office, using fake ID that they have taken from other scam victims.

Scam-Detective: But where do the “foot soldiers” find the email addresses?

John: Lots of people sign guestbooks online and leave their email addresses all over the internet on forums and websites. We would just visit the guestbooks, forums and websites and harvest the email addresses. Some gangs have software that collects these emails automatically, so it cuts down on the work.

Scam-Detective: What percentage of emails would get a response?

John: Maybe 9 or 10 out of every thousand emails. Then maybe 1 out of every 20 replies would lead to us getting money out of the victim in the end.

Scam-Detective: And how much money would you expect to get from a victim?

John: On average, about $7,500 (£4,600) but the most I know about was $25,000 (£15,400). This would be taken in smaller amounts, starting with a couple of hundred, then there would be more “problems” with the transaction, which would mean that we needed more money to release the big payout. People would keep paying more because they were very small amounts compared to the big payout that they believed they would get in the end.

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295 comments
1 American-African  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:24:47pm

I make it my mission to protect people from these guys, but not like Ebola does. this guy toys with the scammers and beats them at their own game.

2 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:24:52pm

I’m glad the guy I’m talking to isn’t shady like THAT guy.

3 albusteve  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:25:26pm

like mining gold from 1% ore….if you process enough of it, you get rich

4 jamesfirecat  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:25:27pm

I never even got “passed up the line” the emails I got were always straight to the point….

5 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:25:33pm
Scam-Detective: What percentage of emails would get a response?

John: Maybe 9 or 10 out of every thousand emails. Then maybe 1 out of every 20 replies would lead to us getting money out of the victim in the end.

So 2,000 emails got one sucker. How many emails can they send out in a day?

AIN’T NOTHING FREE YOU BUNCH OF DUMB ASSES!

6 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:26:35pm

Those email are not real?

7 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:27:28pm

To bad we can’t get their account info, drain an account and throw a kegger.

8 jamesfirecat  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:27:42pm

re: #5 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

So 2,000 emails got one sucker. How many emails can they send out in a day?

AIN’T NOTHING FREE YOU BUNCH OF DUMB ASSES!

Sadly when you think about it, Emails actually are free, if they were running this kind of scam by regular mail they’d have to pay for stamps, paper, envelopes….

9 albusteve  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:29:01pm

re: #8 jamesfirecat

Sadly when you think about it, Emails actually are free, if they were running this kind of scam by regular mail they’d have to pay for stamps, paper, envelopes…

another gig is telemarketing…some astronomical phone bills if you have several phones going at once

10 cliffster  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:30:29pm

Ah, so we are cousins?

11 Political Atheist  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:31:02pm

I wish I could shre the real crazy ones we get as a gold refiner where I work. Makes these guys look like pikers. Funny nobody ever shows up or sends metal…

Urban legend maybe, but an American got killed following up in Nigeria (cache link)

12 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:32:09pm

re: #1 American-African

I make it my mission to protect people from these guys, but not like Ebola does. this guy toys with the scammers and beats them at their own game.

That is one mean dude.

heh… they get what they deserve.

13 darthstar  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:32:19pm

re: #1 American-African

I make it my mission to protect people from these guys, but not like Ebola does. this guy toys with the scammers and beats them at their own game.

Those are pretty good. I remember seeing once where someone sent a “Mac Book” to a scammer in the UK(who wanted to buy his computer from Craigslist, but needed it sent first before wiring the money), “accidentally” putting the value at $3,000 US (instead of $30 as requested) and forcing the guy to pay a 17% value added tax to the UK government…the “Mac Book” was a brick, a cardboard mouse, and a keyboard made of Legos.

14 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:34:54pm

re: #13 darthstar

WIN!

15 brookly red  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:35:01pm

Great article.

It has served me well so far to always be aware of the fact that some people really are stupid. I find this especially helpful when crossing the street and/or driving.

16 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:37:24pm

Been a while since I got a Nigerian Email. Last phish I remember getting was for my Ebay account information, saying I needed to verify my SSN, Credit card number and bank account information. I remember thinking it was suspect considering I never even had an Ebay account.

17 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:38:18pm

re: #16 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Been a while since I got a Nigerian Email. Last phish I remember getting was for my Ebay account information, saying I needed to verify my SSN, Credit card number and bank account information. I remember thinking it was suspect considering I never even had an Ebay account.

You do now.

18 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:39:09pm

re: #17 Walter L. Newton

heh

19 philosophus invidius  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:40:09pm

There was an interesting article about this in the Atlantic awhile back. It focused on people who try to exact revenge on the scammers through their own deceptions.

www.theatlantic.com

20 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:41:18pm

re: #17 Walter L. Newton

You do now.

When I ran the whois information for the IP address of the webpage, it came back to a ISP in the Czech Republic. I was unaware that Ebay conducted its major business and security transactions thru a small provider in Eastern Europe.

21 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:42:56pm

re: #17 Walter L. Newton

You do now.

Account name: Areyoufuckingkiddingme@youasshole.com
SSN: 123456789

22 RogueOne  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:43:16pm

I’m sure most of you have seen this site but it’s related, and funny

Scamming the scammers
www.419eater.com

23 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:45:00pm

re: #1 American-African

I make it my mission to protect people from these guys, but not like Ebola does. this guy toys with the scammers and beats them at their own game.

Here are some more scam-a-scammer pages:

419eater.com
Scamorama: The Lads from Lagos

24 cliffster  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:45:14pm

re: #22 RogueOne

I’m sure most of you have seen this site but it’s related, and funny

Scamming the scammers
[Link: www.419eater.com…]

Heh. If you are easily offended, then go here instead.

25 brookly red  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:47:19pm

You don’t need to go too far to be ripped off… I sent a 29.95 Pro Flowers special that actually billed to over 60 dollars just last week. The FedEx people after taking the recipients personal info including cell phone # dropped off the package on the door step, after dark, in Newark NJ & and neither rang the door bell or called. Guess what, the package was stolen. Who would have thunk it?

26 darthstar  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:48:33pm

re: #25 brookly red

You don’t need to go too far to be ripped off… I sent a 29.95 Pro Flowers special that actually billed to over 60 dollars just last week. The FedEx people after taking the recipients personal info including cell phone # dropped off the package on the door step, after dark, in Newark NJ & and neither rang the door bell or called. Guess what, the package was stolen. Who would have thunk it?

You sent flowers to New Jersey? Ha!

27 brookly red  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:48:39pm

re: #21 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Account name: Areyoufuckingkiddingme@youasshole.com
SSN: 123456789

DeaR mR. Areyoufuckingkiddingme, CONGRADULATIONS! YOU HAVE WON DA…

28 Olsonist  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:48:44pm

I wonder if Freedom Gold was Pat Robertson falling for a scam.

29 albusteve  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:49:27pm

re: #26 darthstar

You sent flowers to New Jersey? Ha!

reach out and touch someone….

30 brookly red  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:49:33pm

re: #26 darthstar

You sent flowers to New Jersey? Ha!

Yeah, and it wasn’t even a funeral…

31 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:49:42pm

Who needs Nigerian scams when we have Social Security.

32 The Sanity Inspector  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:52:08pm

re: #16 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Been a while since I got a Nigerian Email. Last phish I remember getting was for my Ebay account information, saying I needed to verify my SSN, Credit card number and bank account information. I remember thinking it was suspect considering I never even had an Ebay account.

The most contemptible one I ever got purported to be from some rogue American special forces soldiers, wanting a safe places to stash some of Saddam’s loot.

33 brookly red  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:53:07pm

re: #31 Cannadian Club Akbar

Who needs Nigerian scams when we have Social Security.

hey don’t knock it… I just got my statement today and if I live another 68 years I am eligible to share a park bench in Guatemala.

34 albusteve  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:53:53pm

re: #31 Cannadian Club Akbar

Who needs Nigerian scams when we have Social Security.

the grand daddy of them all

35 SpaceJesus  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:53:58pm

they were probably all southern white conservatives

36 The Sanity Inspector  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:54:39pm

re: #25 brookly red

You don’t need to go too far to be ripped off… I sent a 29.95 Pro Flowers special that actually billed to over 60 dollars just last week. The FedEx people after taking the recipients personal info including cell phone # dropped off the package on the door step, after dark, in Newark NJ & and neither rang the door bell or called. Guess what, the package was stolen. Who would have thunk it?

I hope you complained to FedEx. I’ve endured similar cases of dontgiveadamn-itis from the Postal Service, for which failings their complaints department could barely stifle a yawn.

37 HoosierHoops  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:54:40pm

How come these guys don’t have a blog yet?
Nigerian scams@ blog spot
I bet that would do huge traffic on the support page…

38 What, me worry?  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:54:52pm

And yet, people still fall for this stuff.

Years ago when it first started, I used to forward the emails to the FBI. There was an email address offered on their site to send the emails. I don’t know if that was ever helpful, but it made me feel better.

39 albusteve  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:54:54pm

re: #33 brookly red

hey don’t knock it… I just got my statement today and if I live another 68 years I am eligible to share a park bench in Guatemala.

ahaha!…if your crippled they give you money!….wheeee!

40 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:55:01pm

Nigerian scammers are lucky for 2 things:
Ted Kazinski was anti tech;
He was in jail before they got started.

41 RogueOne  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:55:10pm
This is the classic Monty Python “Dead Parrot” sketch we’ve all seen a million times before, but this time it is performed by two Nigerian scammers who were fooled into thinking they were producing the film for a motion picture production company

BTW, I didn’t know we could embed vimeo clips.

42 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:55:51pm

re: #32 The Sanity Inspector

Someone watched “Three Kings”.

43 albusteve  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:56:01pm

re: #38 marjoriemoon

And yet, people still fall for this stuff.

Years ago when it first started, I used to forward the emails to the FBI. There was an email address offered on their site to send the emails. I don’t know if that was ever helpful, but it made me feel better.

they’re probably in on it

44 RogueOne  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:56:48pm

re: #38 marjoriemoon

And yet, people still fall for this stuff.

Years ago when it first started, I used to forward the emails to the FBI. There was an email address offered on their site to send the emails. I don’t know if that was ever helpful, but it made me feel better.

It made you feel better to give the feds your email address? You’re now on a list somewhere.//

45 albusteve  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:56:54pm

re: #42 Obdicut

Someone watched “Three Kings”.

cool movie…and I hate 99% of the movies I watch, the new ones anyway

46 The Sanity Inspector  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:56:56pm

re: #38 marjoriemoon

And yet, people still fall for this stuff.

Years ago when it first started, I used to forward the emails to the FBI. There was an email address offered on their site to send the emails. I don’t know if that was ever helpful, but it made me feel better.

I did that for a while, until the messages started bouncing with the “mailbox full” error daemon.

47 cliffster  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:57:20pm

re: #35 SpaceJesus

they were probably all southern white conservatives

Jefferson Davis is watching over you, and wants you to know that he loves you.

48 brookly red  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:57:50pm

re: #36 The Sanity Inspector

I hope you complained to FedEx. I’ve endured similar cases of dontgiveadamn-itis from the Postal Service, for which failings their complaints department could barely stifle a yawn.

unfortunately since I did not consign FedEx my self, as they are a vendor of Pro Flowers, I have no recourse… except to tell others.

49 The Sanity Inspector  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:58:36pm

re: #41 RogueOne

Oh, my sides…

50 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:59:23pm

Lets not forget their annual conference: The 3rd Annual Nigerian
EMail Conference - “Write better emails. Make more moneys.”

“This conference is an investment in your future. Learn to take advantage of modern technology, and make a great deal of money with very little effort. If you have any question, please contact me and I will send you a proposal that may be of interest to you. I await your response by return while assuring you that the transaction is absolutely risk free.”

- Dr. Collins Mbadiwe

51 The Sanity Inspector  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:59:36pm

re: #48 brookly red

unfortunately since I did not consign FedEx my self, as they are a vendor of Pro Flowers, I have no recourse… except to tell others.

Consign, schmign—you can still call their 800 # and bitch at them.

52 Political Atheist  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:59:48pm

re: #24 cliffster

I love that these guys get scammed. Hah!

53 cliffster  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:00:12pm

re: #48 brookly red

unfortunately since I did not consign FedEx my self, as they are a vendor of Pro Flowers, I have no recourse… except to tell others.

Here’s an idea - go to the flower shop…

54 RogueOne  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:00:27pm

re: #49 The Sanity Inspector

Oh, my sides…

The guy in the overcoat might have some talent, I think walter should send him an offer letter.

55 The Sanity Inspector  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:01:11pm

Oh, and in case I don’t make it to the music thread, good evening hippies!

56 Bagua  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:01:26pm

BTW:

I just got an email notifying me that I’d won the lottery! So I may be busy for a while I submit my details.

57 brookly red  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:01:41pm

re: #51 The Sanity Inspector

Consign, schmign—you can still call their 800 # and bitch at them.

No, I work in advertising & PR… I have other plans ;)

58 wrenchwench  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:01:59pm
59 Tigger2005  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:03:01pm

A lady friend of mine was the victim of an attempted scam through a dating site. They chatted on Yahoo. The man claimed to be an engineer who was working on a job in, yes, Africa. He said he had a young son and that his wife had died. He invited her to visit him in Dallas when he returned home, and said he would make a hotel reservation for her. A couple days before her projected visit, he still had not made the reservation, then suddenly he said he needed money for one thing or another. She cut him off immediately.

What was interesting was how long he kept the scam going. She was chatting with him for over a month.

60 What, me worry?  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:03:10pm

re: #36 The Sanity Inspector

I hope you complained to FedEx. I’ve endured similar cases of dontgiveadamn-itis from the Postal Service, for which failings their complaints department could barely stifle a yawn.

Actually FedEx has a “new” thing, 2-3 years old, where unless you specifically request a signature from the recipient, they leave the package. FedEx charges extra for asking for a signature.

I don’t know how that would work since you’re not the sender, technically. The flower company is. It would be worth it to call FedEx though and ask about it.

61 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:03:54pm

OT- And well worth it- “Enter the Dragon” is on at 8 on AMC. Yippee!!

62 What, me worry?  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:04:04pm

re: #44 RogueOne

It made you feel better to give the feds your email address? You’re now on a list somewhere.//

What me worry :)

63 brookly red  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:04:28pm

re: #53 cliffster

Here’s an idea - go to the flower shop…

you know I thought about that, but I can’t be in 3 places at once so this seemed like a good idea at the time. F’n FedEx has sunk lower than the USPS.

64 albusteve  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:04:34pm

re: #55 The Sanity Inspector

Oh, and in case I don’t make it to the music thread, good evening hippies!


[Video]

heh…I liked it….just a bunch of goofs, noodling around in the barn…probably some Ripple and good erb somewhere

65 darthstar  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:04:38pm

re: #61 Cannadian Club Akbar

OT- And well worth it- “Enter the Dragon” is on at 8 on AMC. Yippee!!

“Hahns toonahment?” Love that movie.

66 arethusa  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:04:59pm

I believe that one year the Nigerian email scammers got the Ig Nobel prize for literature. Too bad it wasn’t for economics.

/

(channeling whatever Soviet statesman said “Too bad it wasn’t for economics” after Gorbachev won the Peace Prize)

67 Racer X  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:05:29pm

Some of them are real right? I mean there’s this one deal that I’m working on right now that is sweet! I can’t divulge too much info right now because we have to keep things hush hush in case the Royal Bank of Tanzania gets wind of it (it could spoil the deal).

Lets just say I will soon be able to afford that condo in Aspen I’ve been dreaming of. Can’t wait!

68 Why I Never!  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:05:52pm

re: #59 Tigger2005

A lady friend of mine was the victim of an attempted scam through a dating site. They chatted on Yahoo. The man claimed to be an engineer who was working on a job in, yes, Africa. He said he had a young son and that his wife had died. He invited her to visit him in Dallas when he returned home, and said he would make a hotel reservation for her. A couple days before her projected visit, he still had not made the reservation, then suddenly he said he needed money for one thing or another. She cut him off immediately.

What was interesting was how long he kept the scam going. She was chatting with him for over a month.

Something like that happened to a friend of a friend. The guy asked her to sign some money orders— of course she said no, and our mutual friend insisted she call the cops.
Packet of (apparently fake?) money orders showed up at her house anyway. So did the FBI.

69 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:06:12pm

re: #67 Racer X


You’ll be able to afford a condo in Aspen, Tanzania.

70 Cato the Elder  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:06:50pm

You mean the $200,000 I spent to help a poor widow get her money aren’t going to pay off?

71 HoosierHoops  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:07:15pm

re: #48 brookly red

unfortunately since I did not consign FedEx my self, as they are a vendor of Pro Flowers, I have no recourse… except to tell others.


FED-EX pissed me off….
So I go to this little FED-EX story to ship some Collectibles and I tell the little 18 year old kid I need these packed carefully.. So he starts wrapping and wrapping.. Fist bubble in each box and another box and more packing..And then another box…and more packing….The final box could have safely transported a small nuclear device across the country..
47 dollars for packing and like 13 dollars to ship.. I hadn’t had my morning coffee yet and just swiped the credit card and walking away groaning…
They got added to my Hall of Fame Evil Corporations list….

72 brookly red  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:07:39pm

re: #67 Racer X

Some of them are real right? I mean there’s this one deal that I’m working on right now that is sweet! I can’t divulge too much info right now because we have to keep things hush hush in case the Royal Bank of Tanzania gets wind of it (it could spoil the deal).

Lets just say I will soon be able to afford that condo in Aspen I’ve been dreaming of. Can’t wait!

/The Royal Bank of Tanzania has been buying bonds against our national debt… don’t quit your day job if you still got one.

73 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:08:37pm

re: #71 HoosierHoops

FED-EX pissed me off…
So I go to this little FED-EX story to ship some Collectibles and I tell the little 18 year old kid I need these packed carefully.. So he starts wrapping and wrapping.. Fist bubble in each box and another box and more packing..And then another box…and more packing…The final box could have safely transported a small nuclear device across the country..
47 dollars for packing and like 13 dollars to ship.. I hadn’t had my morning coffee yet and just swiped the credit card and walking away groaning…
They got added to my Hall of Fame Evil Corporations list…

Did they break?

74 ryannon  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:09:31pm

re: #55 The Sanity Inspector

Oh, and in case I don’t make it to the music thread, good evening hippies!


[Video]

I’ll see your Holy Modal Rounders and raise you a Country Joe and the Fish!

75 SteveMcGazi  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:10:04pm

re: #8 jamesfirecat

Sadly when you think about it, Emails actually are free, if they were running this kind of scam by regular mail they’d have to pay for stamps, paper, envelopes…

Originally, they were sent by mail. The envelopes were even postmarked Lagos. Then, they came by fax. I can’t remember the last time I got one of those solicitations.

76 Bagua  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:10:12pm

re: #70 Cato the Elder

You mean the $200,000 I spent to help a poor widow get her money aren’t going to pay off?

At least you helped the poor and unworthy.

77 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:10:30pm

You know those urban legend emails that you get in the mail? I have a few international friends, and last week I got one from Spain telling me about gang initiations involving flashing your lights, etc.

My Spanish is minimal, so I called in my husband (who speaks Castilian Spanish) to translate.

I’ve gotten a few more from her, but I’m not wasting the neurons to translate. Until I get emails using lower case letters, I won’t read them. How do I explain that it is no more likely to have happened over there than it did ten years ago here?

78 Achilles Tang  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:10:54pm

Sorry to say it; sorry I have to say it; sorry people are so; but there has been a sucker born every minute since the beginning of humanity, and maybe before. One might even say their fat is what makes many of the wheels turn.

If anyone knows a sucker, tell them to read LGF, if nothing else, and perhaps they will save a lot of money.

79 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:12:11pm

My son was victimized by a Nigerian scam on ebay that cost us a brand new ipod and about 30 bucks in shipping charges. what really pissed me off was that ebay is so cavalier about giving these scammers our email address and then doing nothing after the fact to make it right. that was nearly two years ago and I have never used ebay again. fuck them for being complicit in ripping off a 15 year old (at the time) kid.

80 darthstar  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:12:12pm

re: #61 Cannadian Club Akbar

A little warm-up, perhaps?

81 Political Atheist  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:12:24pm

re: #74 ryannon

Where are they now… A documentary sponsored by Ensure.

82 Cato the Elder  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:12:38pm

re: #75 stevemcg

Originally, they were sent by mail. The envelopes were even postmarked Lagos. Then, they came by fax. I can’t remember the last time I got one of those solicitations.

Check your “junk mail” file. You never see them because the email programs have gotten so good at filtering them out. But when I want a laugh, I dip in.

My favorites are the ones in Hebrew.

83 The Sanity Inspector  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:12:52pm

re: #57 brookly red

No, I work in advertising & PR… I have other plans ;)

*gasp!* You don’t mean…

84 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:13:06pm

re: #77 EmmmieG

You know those urban legend emails that you get in the mail? I have a few international friends, and last week I got one from Spain telling me about gang initiations involving flashing your lights, etc.

My Spanish is minimal, so I called in my husband (who speaks Castilian Spanish) to translate.

I’ve gotten a few more from her, but I’m not wasting the neurons to translate. Until I get emails using lower case letters, I won’t read them. How do I explain that it is no more likely to have happened over there than it did ten years ago here?

My mother sends me every scam and urban legend email. I told her to please stop and she said, “but I want you to debunk them for me.” I told her to go to snopes.com but apparently she can’t navigate that site so I have to do her snopesing for her.

85 What, me worry?  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:13:14pm

re: #59 Tigger2005

A lady friend of mine was the victim of an attempted scam through a dating site. They chatted on Yahoo. The man claimed to be an engineer who was working on a job in, yes, Africa. He said he had a young son and that his wife had died. He invited her to visit him in Dallas when he returned home, and said he would make a hotel reservation for her. A couple days before her projected visit, he still had not made the reservation, then suddenly he said he needed money for one thing or another. She cut him off immediately.

What was interesting was how long he kept the scam going. She was chatting with him for over a month.

Oh my sis-in-law was telling me about this. A co-worker of hers was involved with a guy like this, except that she constantly sent him money. Why? They prey on these lonely ladies from the dating sites. Everyone at work tried to tell her she was getting scammed, but she was in love and wouldn’t hear of it. Stupid yes, but sad, too.

86 arethusa  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:14:03pm

re: #79 _RememberTonyC

Consumers should watch out on Craigslist, too - people try to buy stuff with fake cashiers’ checks. Cash only is my motto.

87 Why I Never!  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:14:10pm

re: #79 _RememberTonyC

Here’s an awesome video of Judge Judy ripping into an ebay scammer (who mailed pictures of a cell phone to people who had bought cell phones)

88 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:14:16pm

re: #82 Cato the Elder

Check your “junk mail” file. You never see them because the email programs have gotten so good at filtering them out. But when I want a laugh, I dip in.

My favorites are the ones in Hebrew.

I also get spam in Chinese (or some Asian language. Maybe it’s Japanese or Korean. All those Asian alphabets look alike to me.) and Arabic.

89 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:14:16pm

re: #82 Cato the Elder

I got a bizarre “I’m a Jew stuck in Africa: get me out” email soliciting money from me.

It combined an awful lot of an awful bunch of different varieties of racism.

90 brookly red  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:14:22pm

re: #83 The Sanity Inspector

*gasp!* You don’t mean…

to live well is the best revenge…

91 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:15:03pm

re: #80 darthstar

I love Kentucky Fried Movie. Thanks for the reminder. Heh.

92 RogueOne  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:15:06pm

re: #84 Alouette

My mother sends me every scam and urban legend email. I told her to please stop and she said, “but I want you to debunk them for me.” I told her to go to snopes.com but apparently she can’t navigate that site so I have to do her snopesing for her.

I introduced my mom to snopes years ago and that cut down on her forwarding all that spam but it only came to a stop when I added her email address to my spam filter.

93 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:15:43pm

re: #87 iceweasel

thanks Ice …. I will check it out when I get home later tonight …. my work computer is terrible with video.

94 What, me worry?  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:16:02pm

re: #71 HoosierHoops

FED-EX pissed me off…
So I go to this little FED-EX story to ship some Collectibles and I tell the little 18 year old kid I need these packed carefully.. So he starts wrapping and wrapping.. Fist bubble in each box and another box and more packing..And then another box…and more packing…The final box could have safely transported a small nuclear device across the country..
47 dollars for packing and like 13 dollars to ship.. I hadn’t had my morning coffee yet and just swiped the credit card and walking away groaning…
They got added to my Hall of Fame Evil Corporations list…

hehe FedEx is actually the most reliable. I ship packages constantly. I receive them too. It’s really the best bet going, but you pay for it.

Now if you’re a pack-rat like me, you save all that bubble wrap and popcorn throughout the year. Well I do at work. I have a drawer full of the stuff. Next time call me :)

95 Cato the Elder  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:16:54pm

re: #89 Obdicut

I got a bizarre “I’m a Jew stuck in Africa: get me out” email soliciting money from me.

It combined an awful lot of an awful bunch of different varieties of racism.

I’m going to try that one: “Help! I’m a Catholic stuck in Kentucky!”

Expect your email shortly.

96 Jimmah  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:17:00pm

re: #78 Naso Tang

Sorry to say it; sorry I have to say it; sorry people are so; but there has been a sucker born every minute since the beginning of humanity, and maybe before. One might even say their fat is what makes many of the wheels turn.

If anyone knows a sucker, tell them to read LGF, if nothing else, and perhaps they will save a lot of money.

Speaking of suckers, some genius is making money from fundamentalist Christians who believe in the rapture, by offering a service which promises to re-home ‘left behind’ pets with caring atheist owners:

Caring for Pets Left Behind by the Rapture

97 Why I Never!  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:17:03pm

re: #93 _RememberTonyC

thanks Ice … I will check it out when I get home later tonight … my work computer is terrible with video.

It might give you a little gratuitous closure, anyway. These people are horrible. Judge Judy rocks!

“YOU’RE AN IDIOT! AND A SCAMMER!”
heh.

98 What, me worry?  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:17:07pm

re: #77 EmmmieG

You know those urban legend emails that you get in the mail? I have a few international friends, and last week I got one from Spain telling me about gang initiations involving flashing your lights, etc.

My Spanish is minimal, so I called in my husband (who speaks Castilian Spanish) to translate.

I’ve gotten a few more from her, but I’m not wasting the neurons to translate. Until I get emails using lower case letters, I won’t read them. How do I explain that it is no more likely to have happened over there than it did ten years ago here?

OMG that is so old! LOL Like the kidney harvesting in the hotel bathroom!

99 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:17:21pm

re: #92 RogueOne

I introduced my mom to snopes years ago and that cut down on her forwarding all that spam but it only came to a stop when I added her email address to my spam filter.

I also used to get all this spam crap from somebody who used to post on LGF. Since she flounced, the spam crap has stopped, except for an occasional “TELL CHARLES TO BAN CATO!!”

100 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:17:36pm

re: #86 arethusa

Consumers should watch out on Craigslist, too - people try to buy stuff with fake cashiers’ checks. Cash only is my motto.

I had someone try to buy a wrought iron table I was selling with that bullshit. He said his secretary would bring a check to me after I shipped it. I told him if he can afford a secretary, send her ass to the bank and get some cash.

101 The Sanity Inspector  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:17:44pm

re: #78 Naso Tang

Sorry to say it; sorry I have to say it; sorry people are so; but there has been a sucker born every minute since the beginning of humanity, and maybe before. One might even say their fat is what makes many of the wheels turn.

If anyone knows a sucker, tell them to read LGF, if nothing else, and perhaps they will save a lot of money.

Some people may be beyond help, in terms of suckerdom.

102 brookly red  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:17:47pm

re: #84 Alouette

My mother sends me every scam and urban legend email. I told her to please stop and she said, “but I want you to debunk them for me.” I told her to go to snopes.com but apparently she can’t navigate that site so I have to do her snopesing for her.

I have a credit card number that I have reported as stolen… I make sure to carry the card with me at all times in case my shit gets jacked & someone tries to use it :)

103 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:17:53pm

re: #95 Cato the Elder

Hearing “The Archdiocese of Louisville” always makes me chuckle.

104 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:18:20pm

re: #98 marjoriemoon

OMG that is so old! LOL Like the kidney harvesting in the hotel bathroom!

Yeah. Who knew that the Spanish gangs are getting their ideas from middle-aged former gang members in the US now?

105 Cato the Elder  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:18:38pm

re: #99 Alouette

I also used to get all this spam crap from somebody who used to post on LGF. Since she flounced, the spam crap has stopped, except for an occasional “TELL CHARLES TO BAN CATO!!”

Heh. I’m pretty sure I know who you’re talking about.

106 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:19:27pm

re: #92 RogueOne

I introduced my mom to snopes years ago and that cut down on her forwarding all that spam but it only came to a stop when I added her email address to my spam filter.

Does she know this? Isn’t that covered by a commandment?

107 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:19:43pm

re: #105 Cato the Elder

Heh. I’m pretty sure I know who you’re talking about.

You should be relieved to know that I did not ask Charles to ban you.

108 Bagua  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:19:51pm

re: #99 Alouette

I also used to get all this spam crap from somebody who used to post on LGF. Since she flounced, the spam crap has stopped, except for an occasional “TELL CHARLES TO BAN CATO!!”

Amusing, we should pay Cato for his valuable language lessons.

109 HoosierHoops  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:20:19pm

re: #73 Cannadian Club Akbar

Did they break?

No!
At least i can always rest assured that if a Tom Hanks FED-EX castaway crash would have happened.. That would have been the only box to survive…
And Tom Hanks would have had 4 Beatles Dolls to play with…They could jam together at night…More fun than talking to a ball…
And he could dressed them up doing the really boring parts of the movie…
you know like the parts where he runs around for 10 minutes and doesn’t say a word?
Hey..We get in it.. It’s a deserted Island.. You’re stuck there.. Try a little story
Remember that smoking hot girl you were going to marry? You peek at her picture every so often? Lame movie…

110 What, me worry?  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:20:20pm

re: #87 iceweasel

Here’s an awesome video of Judge Judy ripping into an ebay scammer (who mailed pictures of a cell phone to people who had bought cell phones)


[Video]

I’m a total Judge Judy fan. I saw that one LOL She’s had quite a few on the show actually, people cashing checks from Nigeria.

111 The Sanity Inspector  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:20:26pm

re: #88 Alouette

I also get spam in Chinese (or some Asian language. Maybe it’s Japanese or Korean. All those Asian alphabets look alike to me.) and Arabic.

Chinese script is very busy, pictograms full of crosshatches. Japanese looks simpler, with some characters being just two or three marks laid at an angle to each other. And Korean is full of circles and ovals. I can’t read any of them, but have learned to distinguish them.

112 Cato the Elder  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:21:31pm

re: #84 Alouette

My mother sends me every scam and urban legend email. I told her to please stop and she said, “but I want you to debunk them for me.” I told her to go to snopes.com but apparently she can’t navigate that site so I have to do her snopesing for her.

Your mom and mine should get together.

The latest thing going around my family is an earnest warning not to use cruise-control in the rain.

Wouldn’t you think, if that were a problem, the safety peoples would have forced the car companies to put that warning in the driver’s handbooks, oh, like, maybe 25 years ago?

113 What, me worry?  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:21:46pm

re: #96 Jimmah

Speaking of suckers, some genius is making money from fundamentalist Christians who believe in the rapture, by offering a service which promises to re-home ‘left behind’ pets with caring atheist owners:

Caring for Pets Left Behind by the Rapture

God bless America. Land that I love!

114 Bagua  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:23:00pm

re: #111 The Sanity Inspector

Is the Arabic alphabet similar to Hebrew?

If one learned the letters could one read the words that are similar?

115 ryannon  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:23:10pm

re: #81 Rightwingconspirator

Where are they now… A documentary sponsored by Ensure.

One of the band went on to law school

Duuude!

” Melton studied law while on the road as a musician and was admitted to practice by the State Bar of California in 1982. In 2009, he retired as the Public Defender of Yolo County, California…”.

en.wikipedia.org

116 Why I Never!  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:23:25pm

re: #110 marjoriemoon

I’m a total Judge Judy fan. I saw that one LOL She’s had quite a few on the show actually, people cashing checks from Nigeria.

Oh I loooove Judge Judy. I swear you can learn a lot about human nature from her show.

There are certain themes that turn up over and over. The saddest ones involve money: family relationships and 25 year friendships that just get tossed aside because someone doesn’t want to pay back some piddling amount of money, and goes on to treat the person who helped them out terribly.

117 Cato the Elder  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:23:38pm

re: #108 Bagua

Amusing, we should pay Cato for his valuable language lessons.

If Charles will let me post my PayPay details in my profile, you may soon get the chance. ;^)

118 Killgore Trout  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:23:52pm

I worked for a guy who fell for one of the Nigerian scams. Luckily his bank stepped in and stopped them from emptying his bank accounts. He was a complete idiot. Managing their computers was a nightmare. They didn’t know the basic of even sending an email, would open any attachment or click any link. They were always infested with viruses because he was too cheap to buy an anti-virus program.

119 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:24:04pm

re: #112 Cato the Elder

Your mom and mine should get together.

The latest thing going around my family is an earnest warning not to use cruise-control in the rain.

Wouldn’t you think, if that were a problem, the safety peoples would have forced the car companies to put that warning in the driver’s handbooks, oh, like, maybe 25 years ago?

My mother sends me all the LATEST VIRUS WARNINGS THAT MCAFEE AND NORTON DON’T KNOW ABOUT!1!1!1!1 SEND TO EVERYONE IN YOUR CONTACTS!1!1!1!1

I said, WHY would your 90-year-old IT illiterate girlfriends know about this but not McAfee?

120 Bagua  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:24:20pm

re: #117 Cato the Elder

If Charles will let me post my PayPay details in my profile, you may soon get the chance. ;^)

What are your rates for text translation?

121 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:25:03pm

re: #118 Killgore Trout

I worked for a guy who fell for one of the Nigerian scams. Luckily his bank stepped in and stopped them from emptying his bank accounts. He was a complete idiot. Managing their computers was a nightmare. They didn’t know the basic of even sending an email, would open any attachment or click any link. They were always infested with viruses because he was too cheap to buy an anti-virus program.

My husband refused to fix computers for my parents until after my brother left the house. He wasn’t illiterate; he would just download ANYTHING.

122 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:26:33pm

re: #121 EmmmieG

My brother’s father-in-law, invited to stay with my parents, downloaded all kinds of crap cards games onto it that were bundled with shitloads of sypware, onto my mom’s computer.

He’s an older dude, but I’d think that not installing stuff on someone else’s machine would be basic courtesy.

123 What, me worry?  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:27:09pm

re: #116 iceweasel

Oh I looove Judge Judy. I swear you can learn a lot about human nature from her show.

There are certain themes that turn up over and over. The saddest ones involve money: family relationships and 25 year friendships that just get tossed aside because someone doesn’t want to pay back some piddling amount of money, and goes on to treat the person who helped them out terribly.

Yes indeed. I think the most reoccurring themes are the gals loaning money to their loser boyfriends.

My favorites are the limo drivers that give someone the ride from hell and then demand to get paid LOL. She’s had a few of those.

124 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:27:19pm

re: #122 Obdicut

My brother’s father-in-law, invited to stay with my parents, downloaded all kinds of crap cards games onto it that were bundled with shitloads of sypware, onto my mom’s computer.

He’s an older dude, but I’d think that not installing stuff on someone else’s machine would be basic courtesy.

17 year old boy=kinda sorta stupid

125 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:27:22pm

My son is overly worried about viruses swarming his computer, but he lets his kids play interactive games on his computer.

I told him, if you are so freaking worried about viruses DO NOT LET YOUR 7 YEAR OLDS DOWNLOAD GAMES! I won’t mention that he didn’t get the little rug monkeys vaccinated until the latest mumps scare.

126 The Sanity Inspector  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:27:27pm

re: #114 Bagua

Is the Arabic alphabet similar to Hebrew?

If one learned the letters could one read the words that are similar?

I don’t know. Our Jewish contingent might be able to answer that.

127 RogueOne  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:27:42pm

re: #106 EmmmieG

Does she know this? Isn’t that covered by a commandment?

She knows. I’ve also set up a filter that sends anything with FWD in the subject line goes straight to my spam folder.

128 What, me worry?  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:28:08pm

re: #95 Cato the Elder

I’m going to try that one: “Help! I’m a Catholic stuck in Kentucky!”

Expect your email shortly.

OMG that was funny!

129 darthstar  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:28:23pm

re: #87 iceweasel

Here’s an awesome video of Judge Judy ripping into an ebay scammer (who mailed pictures of a cell phone to people who had bought cell phones)


[Video]

Wow…Judge Judy ripped her a new asshole in that one.

130 brookly red  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:28:53pm

re: #114 Bagua

Is the Arabic alphabet similar to Hebrew?

If one learned the letters could one read the words that are similar?

No, not similar. The spoken words maybe but not the written.

131 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:29:21pm

re: #114 Bagua

Is the Arabic alphabet similar to Hebrew?

If one learned the letters could one read the words that are similar?

Arabic and Hebrew alphabets are not even remotely similar.

132 Jimmah  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:30:42pm

re: #113 marjoriemoon

God bless America. Land that I love!

“Now at last ah understayand whah the good lawd put them atheeyists on this earth…”

133 Why I Never!  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:31:34pm

re: #123 marjoriemoon

Yes indeed. I think the most reoccurring themes are the gals loaning money to their loser boyfriends.

My favorites are the limo drivers that give someone the ride from hell and then demand to get paid LOL. She’s had a few of those.

Oh god, yeah, those are great! The filthy limo that shows up an hour late covered in puke. lol

The ones that make me sad are the wedding ones. When someone has spent a bundle hiring some wedding photographer and the guy’s a drunk or whatever and all the pictures are of his thumb.

It’s small in the grand scheme of things— you had a great day, married the right person, all your friends and family were there — but for some of these couples it’s like the whole event is now ‘ruined’ for them. Sad.

134 reine.de.tout  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:32:30pm

re: #95 Cato the Elder

I’m going to try that one: “Help! I’m a Catholic stuck in Kentucky!”

Expect your email shortly.

Hm.
That one might actually work.
I know my dad’s Kentucky family was disgusted and appalled beyond belief when he married that Catholic girl from New Orleans!

135 Why I Never!  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:32:34pm

re: #129 darthstar

Wow…Judge Judy ripped her a new asshole in that one.

Yeah- epic even by Judge Judy standards! I think that one went viral right away because so many people have been ripped off on ebay.

136 brookly red  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:33:30pm

re: #125 Alouette

My son is overly worried about viruses swarming his computer, but he lets his kids play interactive games on his computer.

I told him, if you are so freaking worried about viruses DO NOT LET YOUR 7 YEAR OLDS DOWNLOAD GAMES! I won’t mention that he didn’t get the little rug monkeys vaccinated until the latest mumps scare.

I don’t have much faith in the “world court” but if they want to make the penalty for creating viruses/worms death by stoning I could warm up to them…

137 HoosierHoops  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:34:11pm

re: #131 Alouette

Arabic and Hebrew alphabets are not even remotely similar.

I’ve been fascinated By the Hebrew writings.. How there was only constants in the old texts and only added the vowels with a series of dots above the texts.. Beautiful language…

138 Achilles Tang  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:35:21pm

re: #96 Jimmah

and in Business Week yet, at least you weren’t slumming for that one.

But I appreciate the honesty in there

“I’m trying to figure out how to cash in on this hysteria to supplement my income.”

I debated for years, and procrastinated, how to retire off of the Bermuda Triangle. I hope this guy greases his retirement; at least he is honest about motives…

139 Jimmah  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:35:43pm

re: #137 HoosierHoops

I’ve been fascinated By the Hebrew writings.. How there was only constants in the old texts and only added the vowels with a series of dots above the texts.. Beautiful language…

I didn’t know that. Interesting - I think the Arabic script/language followed a similar path of development with regard to vowels.

140 Bagua  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:35:44pm

re: #131 Alouette

Arabic and Hebrew alphabets are not even remotely similar.

I know, but what I mean is, do they have a symbol for each letter that would allow a Hebrew reader to understand the recognizable words? I find that if I listen to spoken Arabic I understand a fair number of words.

141 brookly red  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:36:13pm

re: #140 Bagua

I know, but what I mean is, do they have a symbol for each letter that would allow a Hebrew reader to understand the recognizable words? I find that if I listen to spoken Arabic I understand a fair number of words.

No

142 Achilles Tang  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:37:29pm

re: #129 darthstar

Wow…Judge Judy ripped her a new asshole in that one.

Your video didn’t work for me, but that’s OK; the only time I watch this is when I’m waiting for my tires to be rotated.

143 brookly red  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:39:05pm

re: #142 Naso Tang

Your video didn’t work for me, but that’s OK; the only time I watch this is when I’m waiting for my tires to be rotated.

I hate these judge whoever shows…

bring that crap into a real courtroom and see what happens…

144 Bagua  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:40:41pm

re: #141 brookly red

No

I just looked on Wikipedia and it says the first symbol in their alphabet is Alif, the second is B, and it says they are derivative of Proto-Semitic language.

So it appears that yes, if I knew which characters were for which letters I could read and understand the Arabic words that are very close to Hebrew.

145 arethusa  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:41:11pm

re: #143 brookly red

I generally agree with you about the judge shows, but I watch Judge Judy when I want a laugh, and I really like Judge Milian on the People’s Court, because I can usually see the legal logic behind her decisions - Judge Judy gets too personal for me.

146 brookly red  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:42:00pm

re: #144 Bagua

I just looked on Wikipedia and it says the first symbol in their alphabet is Alif, the second is B, and it says they are derivative of Proto-Semitic language.

So it appears that yes, if I knew which characters were for which letters I could read and understand the Arabic words that are very close to Hebrew.

that is the point, the characters are not similar, not even close.

147 Achilles Tang  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:42:16pm

re: #143 brookly red

I hate these judge whoever shows…

bring that crap into a real courtroom and see what happens…

I’m a blue collar landlord with plenty of eviction experience. Assholes in court leave me cold. I prefer COPS, at least that usually has a happy ending..

148 Cato the Elder  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:42:17pm

re: #114 Bagua

Is the Arabic alphabet similar to Hebrew?

If one learned the letters could one read the words that are similar?

Not similar at all.

149 Cato the Elder  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:43:07pm

re: #120 Bagua

What are your rates for text translation?

What you got?

I generally charge 60 bucks a page.

150 HoosierHoops  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:43:31pm

re: #139 Jimmah

I didn’t know that. Interesting - I think the Arabic script/language followed a similar path of development with regard to vowels.

A period of great language development… Hey you know a few vowels would really clean this up.. People might even understand it.. So they put a series of little dots above the text for the vowels…Saved alot of time of rn rin..ryn..run no..ran..could be rin.. What’s a rin? no ran…Could be ryn.. I ate one of those once.. no it’s ran.. I think…

151 The Sanity Inspector  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:43:32pm

re: #133 iceweasel

Oh god, yeah, those are great! The filthy limo that shows up an hour late covered in puke. lol

The ones that make me sad are the wedding ones. When someone has spent a bundle hiring some wedding photographer and the guy’s a drunk or whatever and all the pictures are of his thumb.

It’s small in the grand scheme of things— you had a great day, married the right person, all your friends and family were there — but for some of these couples it’s like the whole event is now ‘ruined’ for them. Sad.

At least you have recourse with a professional photog. Pity the newlyweds who hire a young snapshooting relative, and all the photos have his girlfriend in them.

152 brookly red  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:44:45pm

re: #145 arethusa

I generally agree with you about the judge shows, but I watch Judge Judy when I want a laugh, and I really like Judge Milian on the People’s Court, because I can usually see the legal logic behind her decisions - Judge Judy gets too personal for me.

Oh gawd, don’t get me started about what some really ignorant people think is the law, specifically “their rights”. Thankfully I don’t work in HR.

153 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:45:20pm

re: #151 The Sanity Inspector

I knew of a couple once who didn’t have money when they got married, so the next year she put the dress back on and took some photos then.

You don’t really look that different…not after one year…well, unless there was a honeymoon baby…

154 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:45:34pm

When I was in California I solved most of my mother’s tech problems. The most egregious were caused by her insistence on setting her screen resolution to 640 X 480, which causes browsers to behave erratically.

OK, I’m no spring chicken myself and I crank up the font size on my own screen, but 640 X 480 screen res and extra-large icons is just bullshit!

I reset the icon size to “medium” without telling anybody, this made the screen look “almost” normal but of course the browser still sucked huge ones, not to mention that my mother was still using AOL browser with that IM popup that will not let you turn it off!

I installed Firefox to save my own mental health.

155 Cato the Elder  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:46:22pm

re: #133 iceweasel

Oh god, yeah, those are great! The filthy limo that shows up an hour late covered in puke. lol

The ones that make me sad are the wedding ones. When someone has spent a bundle hiring some wedding photographer and the guy’s a drunk or whatever and all the pictures are of his thumb.

It’s small in the grand scheme of things— you had a great day, married the right person, all your friends and family were there — but for some of these couples it’s like the whole event is now ‘ruined’ for them. Sad.

The marital-industrial complex needs to be regulated so couples can get back to focussing on what’s really important.

156 arethusa  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:46:25pm

re: #149 Cato the Elder

Why not some spam in Latin, Cato? ;-)

157 Bagua  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:46:53pm

re: #146 brookly red

that is the point, the characters are not similar, not even close.

Yes I know, the shapes are completely different and just look like squiggles to me, so I tended to think of them as like hieroglyphs.

But now I can reckogise that it is an alphabet, and certain letters like the S and L, G and A are not far off from Hebrew and quite reckognisable to me now.

Arabic Alphabet

158 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:47:10pm

re: #153 EmmmieG

I knew of a couple once who didn’t have money when they got married, so the next year she put the dress back on and took some photos then.

You don’t really look that different…not after one year…well, unless there was a honeymoon baby…

My son got a real photographer, and between the ceremony and the reception they drove over to Prospect Park for some real romantic love-in-New York photos.

159 brookly red  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:47:13pm

re: #147 Naso Tang

I’m a blue collar landlord with plenty of eviction experience. Assholes in court leave me cold. I prefer COPS, at least that usually has a happy ending..

there are assholes in court & there are assholes with licences in court. I do not envy you.

160 Cato the Elder  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:48:11pm

re: #156 arethusa

Why not some spam in Latin, Cato? ;-)

That’s a damn good idea. I could fake a nihil obstat and an imprimatur from the Vatican to dupe the pious.

161 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:48:24pm

Currently having fun watching a piece on bad ice skating costumes. My favorite description: Taxi Collides with a Cow

162 Jeff In Ohio  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:48:32pm

I get these couples that come around to the house. They’re always talking about some crap, but I shut the door before they get to the money pitch. Jahoosa Witnesses, or something like that. Seems like a lot of walking around, haven’t the Jahoosa’s hear about The Internets?

163 Achilles Tang  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:48:33pm

re: #157 Bagua

Yes I know, the shapes are completely different and just look like squiggles to me, so I tended to think of them as like hieroglyphs.

But now I can reckogise that it is an alphabet, and certain letters like the S and L, G and A are not far off from Hebrew and quite reckognisable to me now.

Arabic Alphabet

Your pell cheker in an funk?

164 brookly red  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:48:46pm

re: #157 Bagua

Yes I know, the shapes are completely different and just look like squiggles to me, so I tended to think of them as like hieroglyphs.

But now I can reckogise that it is an alphabet, and certain letters like the S and L, G and A are not far off from Hebrew and quite reckognisable to me now.

Arabic Alphabet

go for it what can I say? you may be the one.

165 arethusa  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:48:55pm

re: #157 Bagua

Don’t forget, though, that some words will sound exactly the same or look exactly the same when you transliterate them, but will have totally different meanings.

166 RogueOne  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:48:55pm

Google Buzz Opens Doors To Phishing Scams

consumerist.com


It’s a new day, so there must be a new revelation about another way in which Google Buzz is an affront to the concept of personal privacy, right? But the latest complaint about the Internet giant’s unasked-for answer to Facebook and Twitter goes far beyond making your private contacts public or adding potential personal safety risks to your “followers” list. It looks like the phishers and botnet scammers have already begun taking advantage of the new feature.

Unseemly Internet crooks have begun introducing corrupted search result links into the cybersphere. When clicked on, your PC could become part of a Borg-like botnet, dealing out spam and possibly giving up your personal data in the process.

Security experts say that fake pharmaceuticals spammers are already taking advantage of Google Buzz with the ultimate intent of accessing the data available in the victim’s Gmail account.

167 What, me worry?  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:49:48pm

re: #133 iceweasel

Oh god, yeah, those are great! The filthy limo that shows up an hour late covered in puke. lol

The ones that make me sad are the wedding ones. When someone has spent a bundle hiring some wedding photographer and the guy’s a drunk or whatever and all the pictures are of his thumb.

It’s small in the grand scheme of things— you had a great day, married the right person, all your friends and family were there — but for some of these couples it’s like the whole event is now ‘ruined’ for them. Sad.

She was interviewed recently, right after the election? Was it Larry King? I’d have to google it. I don’t remember what it was about LOL But she’s such a smart lady. I love listening to her. Tiny little thing too.

168 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:50:11pm

re: #166 RogueOne

Google Buzz Opens Doors To Phishing Scams

[Link: consumerist.com…]

Not to mentiion Phacebook phishermen.

169 Jeff In Ohio  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:50:31pm

re: #134 reine.de.tout

Hm.
That one might actually work.
I know my dad’s Kentucky family was disgusted and appalled beyond belief when he married that Catholic girl from New Orleans!

Pshaw, there are lot’s of Catholics in Kentucky. I married one from Louisville.

170 Cato the Elder  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:50:59pm

re: #147 Naso Tang

I’m a blue collar landlord with plenty of eviction experience. Assholes in court leave me cold. I prefer COPS, at least that usually has a happy ending..

I once “allowed” a water pipe to break to get some particularly egregious tenants out of a basement apartment. The Baltimore city system was giving them a free ride. So they woke up one morning and stepped into cold water straight from the bed.

Had to replace all the carpet, but it was sooo worth it.

171 What, me worry?  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:51:44pm

re: #136 brookly red

I don’t have much faith in the “world court” but if they want to make the penalty for creating viruses/worms death by stoning I could warm up to them…

Hmm… beat them to death with a keyboard. Poetic justice.

172 Bagua  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:51:55pm

re: #148 Cato the Elder

Not similar at all.

It looks like they have a symbol for most of the same letters, and the sin and shin are very close in appearance to the Hebrew equivalent. re: #163 Naso Tang

Your pell cheker in an funk?

Egad, I see what you mean! Five minutes of gazing at the Arabic alphabet and I’m already illiterate. I’d better learn English first.

173 reine.de.tout  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:52:34pm

re: #157 Bagua

Yes I know, the shapes are completely different and just look like squiggles to me, so I tended to think of them as like hieroglyphs.

But now I can reckogise that it is an alphabet, and certain letters like the S and L, G and A are not far off from Hebrew and quite reckognisable to me now.

Arabic Alphabet

Wow.
That was interesting.
Each letter can have up to 4 “forms” depending on whether it stands alone, or is used at the beginning, or in the middle, or at the end of a word.

The article says there are 28 letters - but with all those forms for each letter, it’s no wonder it always looked to me like written Arabic must have had hundreds of different letters.

174 Bagua  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:53:20pm

re: #165 arethusa

Don’t forget, though, that some words will sound exactly the same or look exactly the same when you transliterate them, but will have totally different meanings.

I see. Do you know about how many words are similar? I can think of many that I think I understand, but their meaning may be more different than I am assuming.

175 Cato the Elder  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:53:48pm

re: #173 reine.de.tout

Wow.
That was interesting.
Each letter can have up to 4 “forms” depending on whether it stands alone, or is used at the beginning, or in the middle, or at the end of a word.

The article says there are 28 letters - but with all those forms for each letter, it’s no wonder it always looked to me like written Arabic must have had hundreds of different letters.

Hebrew has different forms for certain letters if they come at the end of a word. Arabic takes it to a whole different level.

176 brookly red  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:54:17pm

re: #171 marjoriemoon

Hmm… beat them to death with a keyboard. Poetic justice.

where is Monty Python when you need them?

177 reine.de.tout  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:54:21pm

re: #169 Jeff In Ohio

Pshaw, there are lot’s of Catholics in Kentucky. I married one from Louisville.

I hope your family was not as horrified as my Dad’s family was.
I have aunts, uncles and cousins I’ve never met.

178 What, me worry?  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:54:52pm

re: #143 brookly red

I hate these judge whoever shows…

bring that crap into a real courtroom and see what happens…

Judge Judy is the best. I used to watch Judge Joe, but it got to Jerry Springer for me. Judy runs a really tight ship.

179 Cato the Elder  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:55:07pm

re: #177 reine.de.tout

I hope your family was not as horrified as my Dad’s family was.
I have aunts, uncles and cousins I’ve never met.

In this day and age, that’s beyond sad.

180 brookly red  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:55:42pm

re: #178 marjoriemoon

Judge Judy is the best. I used to watch Judge Joe, but it got to Jerry Springer for me. Judy runs a really tight ship.

I respectfully disagree.

181 reine.de.tout  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:55:43pm

re: #175 Cato the Elder

Hebrew has different forms for certain letters if they come at the end of a word. Arabic takes it to a whole different level.

It actually looks to me now like it’s learnable.
I mean, it looks to me like even I could possibly learn it.

182 Achilles Tang  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:55:54pm

re: #170 Cato the Elder

They must have been stupider than most to move without you having to evict them, water or not. In my experience these people are smart as a fox in legal regards and dumber than an ox in others. They can acll a number and get free legal advice on how to screw landlords out of rent payments. For all I know it’s to Acorn.

183 RogueOne  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:56:36pm

The women are watching “Titanic” tonight so I get to play in my room. As I walked through to get a soda my sis-n-law just asked why they didn’t have their radar turned on. re: #169 Jeff In Ohio

Pshaw, there are lot’s of Catholics in Kentucky. I married one from Louisville.

Cincinnati is a catholic town.

184 reine.de.tout  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:56:38pm

re: #179 Cato the Elder

In this day and age, that’s beyond sad.

Now, and then too.
Really beyond sad.
But it was their choice, not ours.

185 Cato the Elder  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:57:46pm

re: #182 Naso Tang

They must have been stupider than most to move without you having to evict them, water or not. In my experience these people are smart as a fox in legal regards and dumber than an ox in others. They can acll a number and get free legal advice on how to screw landlords out of rent payments. For all I know it’s to Acorn.

In Baltimore, by law, a 12-month lease means nothing. They can stop paying after the first/last/security runs out and the most you can recover under the law is two months’ rent. Even if they hang on for 11.

186 RogueOne  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:57:53pm

re: #183 RogueOne

bad formatting, sorry ‘bout that.

187 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:57:54pm

re: #173 reine.de.tout

Wow.
That was interesting.
Each letter can have up to 4 “forms” depending on whether it stands alone, or is used at the beginning, or in the middle, or at the end of a word.

The article says there are 28 letters - but with all those forms for each letter, it’s no wonder it always looked to me like written Arabic must have had hundreds of different letters.

I am fluent in Hebrew, but Arabic writing looks like scribbles to me. Zedushka is teaching himself Arabic. I hope that goes better than Japanese.

As for myself I still have the Russian DVD’s that I ordered 3 years ago before my trip to Moscow, and now my son is no longer living in Russia.

188 Jimmah  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:58:14pm

re: #87 iceweasel

Here’s an awesome video of Judge Judy ripping into an ebay scammer (who mailed pictures of a cell phone to people who had bought cell phones)


[Video]

Gosh what a cheeky, shameless cow. I bet her husband has a mullet, and wears the same smelly grey vest at all times.

189 garhighway  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:58:15pm

OT: The NYT Online just put up a piece by Dave Leonhardt writing under the label “The Economic Scene” that tries to look dispassionately at the success or failure of the stimulus bill. (I would link to it but the NYT is sort of a pay site, and I am not sure how that works here.)

His take, based on reports by three different economic research firms, is that the bill accounted for a couple of million jobs in the last year. He notes that the bill had some garbage in it, as did some of the initial record-keeping surrounding the its results, but that for all that noise, it largely did what it was supposed to do.

It’s an interesting piece.

190 brookly red  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:58:20pm

re: #182 Naso Tang

They must have been stupider than most to move without you having to evict them, water or not. In my experience these people are smart as a fox in legal regards and dumber than an ox in others. They can acll a number and get free legal advice on how to screw landlords out of rent payments. For all I know it’s to Acorn.

well the dirty lil secret is acorn don’t work for you less you got some way of reciprocating… dirty begets dirty.

191 Achilles Tang  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:58:35pm

re: #173 reine.de.tout

Now multiply that by the different ways one can spell a name phonetically, in English, and there may be a reason why 5 year olds end up on the No Fly List.

192 arethusa  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:59:46pm

re: #174 Bagua

I see. Do you know about how many words are similar? I can think of many that I think I understand, but their meaning may be more different than I am assuming.

Sorry to say I only know Greek and Latin and no other Semitic languages. You want a book on comparative linguistics in Indo-European languages. Maybe “How to Kill a Dragon” by Calvert Watkins would interest you (but I’ve never read it and can’t attest to how good it is).

193 Bagua  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:59:47pm

re: #173 reine.de.tout

Wow.
That was interesting.
Each letter can have up to 4 “forms” depending on whether it stands alone, or is used at the beginning, or in the middle, or at the end of a word.

The article says there are 28 letters - but with all those forms for each letter, it’s no wonder it always looked to me like written Arabic must have had hundreds of different letters.

Fascinating isn’t it? Some of the letters look almost alike in the beginning, middle, end and isolated forms, but some are quite different. Still far easier than learning Chinese I would think, 28 basic letters with some having distinct ending forms.

194 reine.de.tout  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:59:58pm

re: #187 Alouette

I am fluent in Hebrew, but Arabic writing looks like scribbles to me. Zedushka is teaching himself Arabic. I hope that goes better than Japanese.

As for myself I still have the Russian DVD’s that I ordered 3 years ago before my trip to Moscow, and now my son is no longer living in Russia.

btw - finally got the pendant I ordered (silver, roman glass, star of David with a cross in the center).
It’s beautiful. I love it.

195 Cato the Elder  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:00:28pm

re: #187 Alouette

I am fluent in Hebrew, but Arabic writing looks like scribbles to me. Zedushka is teaching himself Arabic. I hope that goes better than Japanese.

As for myself I still have the Russian DVD’s that I ordered 3 years ago before my trip to Moscow, and now my son is no longer living in Russia.

You just gave me an idea for a rockin’ business.

Put up internet ads offering to buy all those “Teaching Company” courses that people bought and never listened to or watched. For five cents on the dollar.

Then resell them, at half retail, on a special website.

Seriously.

196 Political Atheist  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:00:43pm

Tonights music is just awesome, I just had to stop back here downstairs and encourage the stressed out among us to join me upstairs for Keith Jarrett

197 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:00:59pm

re: #194 reine.de.tout

btw - finally got the pendant I ordered (silver, roman glass, star of David with a cross in the center).
It’s beautiful. I love it.

We aim to please. :)

198 Cato the Elder  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:01:28pm

re: #192 arethusa

Sorry to say I only know Greek and Latin and no other Semitic languages.

FTFY

199 HoosierHoops  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:02:09pm

re: #161 EmmmieG

Currently having fun watching a piece on bad ice skating costumes. My favorite description: Taxi Collides with a Cow


I love the Winter Olympics!
I won’t be Happy until I see a Men’s Canadian Gold Metal Figure Skater standing on the podium in his Puffy Pirates Blouse holding his Gold Metal..
How come Curling gets more air time than those guys that ski down the mountains with guns and just shoot targets all the way down…Why not Shotguns and life sized targets of Protected wild life?
Why are these guys thinking?
Figure skating or guys with guns on skis shooting shit… My bet is the chicken wings, beer and the guns!
*wink*

200 brookly red  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:02:28pm

re: #195 Cato the Elder

You just gave me an idea for a rockin’ business.

Put up internet ads offering to buy all those “Teaching Company” courses that people bought and never listened to or watched. For five cents on the dollar.

Then resell them, at half retail, on a special website.

Seriously.

I think that fannie-mae has got that covered….

201 arethusa  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:02:32pm

re: #198 Cato the Elder

FTFY

thank you! long day.

202 What, me worry?  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:02:54pm

re: #180 brookly red

I respectfully disagree.

Don’t be dissing my Judge Judy.

203 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:02:58pm

re: #195 Cato the Elder

You just gave me an idea for a rockin’ business.

Put up internet ads offering to buy all those “Teaching Company” courses that people bought and never listened to or watched. For five cents on the dollar.

Then resell them, at half retail, on a special website.

Seriously.

Did you know that you can buy all those Russian class DVD’s, including Rosetta Stone, for about $4 at the Pirate Mall in Moscow? When I wanted to tour the Kremlin, Zedushka wanted to visit the Pirate Mall.

We could have been soooo busted going through customs.

204 Achilles Tang  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:03:13pm

re: #185 Cato the Elder

In Baltimore, by law, a 12-month lease means nothing. They can stop paying after the first/last/security runs out and the most you can recover under the law is two months’ rent. Even if they hang on for 11.

In Florida you can evict within 3 weeks if you don’t waste time filing. The only thing that can delay is a response, but it has to be accompanied by a payment to the court of rents due or it fails by default.

Want to move south?

205 brookly red  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:03:33pm

re: #202 marjoriemoon

Don’t be dissing my Judge Judy.

I said respectfully…

206 Bagua  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:03:53pm

re: #187 Alouette

I am fluent in Hebrew, but Arabic writing looks like scribbles to me. Zedushka is teaching himself Arabic. I hope that goes better than Japanese.

As for myself I still have the Russian DVD’s that I ordered 3 years ago before my trip to Moscow, and now my son is no longer living in Russia.

Wow, Zadie is taking on a difficult project from the looks of it. I wonder if he will have more luck as Japanese is so very different? I would look forward to any updates.

207 What, me worry?  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:07:10pm

re: #181 reine.de.tout

It actually looks to me now like it’s learnable.
I mean, it looks to me like even I could possibly learn it.

My mom teaches Hebrew in her synagogue. Too bad we live in different states. She’s using a book that she says could be used without a teacher. I could ask her about it. It’s always good to have a teacher with language, I suppose. Well there’s DVDs too heh.

I know biblical Hebrew which would be like speaking Shakespearean English, I guess. A few other words..

Eema - Mother
Abba - Father
Doda - Aunt
Cain - Yes
Lo - No

(Alloutte knows these lol)

208 Bagua  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:07:24pm

re: #203 Alouette

Did you know that you can buy all those Russian class DVD’s, including Rosetta Stone, for about $4 at the Pirate Mall in Moscow? When I wanted to tour the Kremlin, Zedushka wanted to visit the Pirate Mall.

We could have been sooo busted going through customs.

Actually, they are all pirated and available on the sites that cater to such things for free if one is not troubled by the ethics of pirated software and music.

209 What, me worry?  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:07:52pm

re: #187 Alouette

I am fluent in Hebrew, but Arabic writing looks like scribbles to me. Zedushka is teaching himself Arabic. I hope that goes better than Japanese.

As for myself I still have the Russian DVD’s that I ordered 3 years ago before my trip to Moscow, and now my son is no longer living in Russia.

Well there ya go lol

210 Achilles Tang  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:08:03pm

re: #195 Cato the Elder

You just gave me an idea for a rockin’ business.

Put up internet ads offering to buy all those “Teaching Company” courses that people bought and never listened to or watched. For five cents on the dollar.

Then resell them, at half retail, on a special website.

Seriously.

I just received a catalog from them. Special 70% off ‘till next month. That will piss off a lot of people on Ebay already. But seriously, some of those are cool and a few partials I’ve heard are really very good.

211 reine.de.tout  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:08:29pm

re: #207 marjoriemoon

My mom teaches Hebrew in her synagogue. Too bad we live in different states. She’s using a book that she says could be used without a teacher. I could ask her about it. It’s always good to have a teacher with language, I suppose. Well there’s DVDs too heh.

I know biblical Hebrew which would be like speaking Shakespearean English, I guess. A few other words..

Eema - Mother
Abba - Father
Doda - Aunt
Cain - Yes
Lo - No

(Alloutte knows these lol)

I would like to learn - or at least learn about - the alphabet and sounds - could you get the name of the book for me?

212 What, me worry?  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:09:43pm

re: #208 Bagua

Actually, they are all pirated and available on the sites that cater to such things for free if one is not troubled by the ethics of pirated software and music.

I bet the Nigerian guys could help you with that!

213 What, me worry?  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:10:00pm

re: #211 reine.de.tout

I would like to learn - or at least learn about - the alphabet and sounds - could you get the name of the book for me?

(I’m making a note to remind myself lol)

214 reine.de.tout  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:10:18pm

re: #213 marjoriemoon

(I’m making a note to remind myself lol)

Merci!

215 Bagua  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:10:28pm

re: #192 arethusa

Sorry to say I only know Greek and Latin and no other Semitic languages. You want a book on comparative linguistics in Indo-European languages. Maybe “How to Kill a Dragon” by Calvert Watkins would interest you (but I’ve never read it and can’t attest to how good it is).

That book looks very interesting. I wonder if it would be too over my head not having read that subject.

216 Cato the Elder  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:12:13pm

re: #204 Naso Tang

In Florida you can evict within 3 weeks if you don’t waste time filing. The only thing that can delay is a response, but it has to be accompanied by a payment to the court of rents due or it fails by default.

Want to move south?

After the past few weeks in Baltimore (hint: the snow is still not cleared even from the major street I live on), I just might.

The important thing is to always get a judgment. Even if it’s only for two crappy months, and even if they don’t pay.

I know a landlord who waited fifteen years and finally got a desperate call from some old deadbeat couple. They had cleaned up their act and wanted to buy a house. Trouble was this fifteen-year-old lien against them.

He was happy to tell them that the four hundred dollars they owed in 1993 was now several thousand, thanks to the magic of penalties and interest. “Just consider it part of your closing costs”, he said, when they begged and pleaded.

217 Achilles Tang  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:12:40pm

re: #195 Cato the Elder

Following up on that; the one brief one I listened to was The History of Language. Really interesting, and I bought the whole set for my mother at Xmas. She is 87 and claims she really enjoys it, after figuring out how the CD player works. I hope I can still make these highly intelligent posts at LGF when I’m 87.

Don’t know how well Charles will be doing though.

218 Olsonist  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:13:02pm

re: #195 Cato the Elder

You just gave me an idea for a rockin’ business.

Put up internet ads offering to buy all those “Teaching Company” courses that people bought and never listened to or watched. For five cents on the dollar.

Then resell them, at half retail, on a special website.

Seriously.

Why anyone would pay a nickel for the Teaching Company now when there is ITunesU for free is beyond me.

219 arethusa  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:13:39pm

re: #215 Bagua

That book looks very interesting. I wonder if it would be too over my head not having read that subject.

It seems to be used in college classes a lot, so I don’t think it’s totally intended for the specialist.

Oh, and it’s comparative linguistics for Semitic languages you want…pimf.

220 Cato the Elder  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:14:28pm

re: #210 Naso Tang

I just received a catalog from them. Special 70% off ‘till next month. That will piss off a lot of people on Ebay already. But seriously, some of those are cool and a few partials I’ve heard are really very good.

They’re an excellent company and really deliver the goods. I was just riffing on the number of people who must buy a course on mathematics for poets - “sure, I’ll do all 24 lessons in two weeks” - and never get beyond the introduction. Think of all that material waiting to be recycled by a savvy internet businessman.

221 brookly red  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:16:14pm

re: #220 Cato the Elder

They’re an excellent company and really deliver the goods. I was just riffing on the number of people who must buy a course on mathematics for poets - “sure, I’ll do all 24 lessons in two weeks” - and never get beyond the introduction. Think of all that material waiting to be recycled by a savvy internet businessman.

so your internet provider issues are solved I take it?

222 Cato the Elder  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:16:17pm

re: #218 Olsonist

Why anyone would pay a nickel for the Teaching Company now when there is ITunesU for free is beyond me.

Fill me in, please!

223 Jeff In Ohio  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:16:51pm

re: #177 reine.de.tout

I hope your family was not as horrified as my Dad’s family was.
I have aunts, uncles and cousins I’ve never met.

That’s a shame. My family is amazed I don’t live in a car.

224 What, me worry?  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:16:55pm

re: #214 reine.de.tout

Merci!

I’ve been in Miami 30 years and I don’t know Spanish. I can understand quite a lot but don’t remember how to put together sentences. I know the tenses of the verbs. Anyway, that’s got to be some kind of sin. Really. It’s embarrassing. There’s some adult ed classes, but just as me and Mr. Moon were about to sign up, something happened. The washer or the dryer broke, or the plumbing… whatever it was, we put it off. $200 for both of us to take the class. Not a world of money, but enough to have to put somewhere else.

I should make it my mission this year.

225 Cato the Elder  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:17:03pm

re: #221 brookly red

so your internet provider issues are solved I take it?

For now. It depends on how fast I get paid for the rare translation job I’m working on.

226 Donna Ballard  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:17:47pm

re: #194 reine.de.tout

btw - finally got the pendant I ordered (silver, roman glass, star of David with a cross in the center).
It’s beautiful. I love it.

Sounds beautiful. Enjoy it in good health! BTW Happy Tuesday! :-)

227 brookly red  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:17:55pm

re: #225 Cato the Elder

For now. It depends on how fast I get paid for the rare translation job I’m working on.

any pharma experience?

228 Cato the Elder  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:19:12pm

re: #227 brookly red

any pharma experience?

Plenty, actually. Medical, too. I have a whole book on epilepsy research under my belt.

229 Achilles Tang  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:20:01pm

re: #216 Cato the Elder

Liens need judgments, and that costs. Then they need to be renewed every 5 or 6 years, and that costs. As much as I would like to do these things sometimes, chasing trailer trash is not worth the blood pressure cost.

Hey, it was my screw up in human judgment to begin with!

230 Bagua  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:20:09pm

re: #225 Cato the Elder

Do you break down your per page rate by paragraph or word for things like web-pages?

231 brookly red  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:20:17pm

re: #228 Cato the Elder

Plenty, actually. Medical, too. I have a whole book on epilepsy research under my belt.

we may need to talk in the future… I know where to find you ;)

232 Donna Ballard  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:20:32pm

Good Afternoon Everyone and Happy Tuesday to you all!

233 Bagua  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:21:10pm

Top of the day to you Dragon Lady!

234 Achilles Tang  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:21:44pm

re: #220 Cato the Elder

Ebay, Ebay, Ebay.

235 Olsonist  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:22:41pm

re: #222 Cato the Elder

Fill me in, please!

Your life just ended.

ITunesU has Berkeley, Stanford, MIT, Yale, …, full length courses in video and audio. Some teachers gather a following and respond to questions. I’ve been following Isabelle Pafford for quite a while. She has a wonderful read on the Roman Republic.

Pull up ITunes (yes, even on a PC), open the store page, click the iTunes U tab.

But I warn you, your life just ended. It’s addictive.

236 Donna Ballard  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:23:38pm

re: #233 Bagua

Top of the day to you Dragon Lady!

Hi Bagua, how are you today? I see the topic is those lovely “send me money and I’ll make you rich” scams I keep getting? Every time I see something like that in my email inbox I mark it as spam.

237 HoosierHoops  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:25:12pm

re: #236 Dragon_Lady

Hi Bagua, how are you today? I see the topic is those lovely “send me money and I’ll make you rich” scams I keep getting? Every time I see something like that in my email inbox I mark it as spam.

Did you know you can make 50,000 dollars a month working from home?

238 Bagua  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:25:31pm

re: #236 Dragon_Lady

Yep, amazing how much commerce and crime which occurs on the dastardly intertubes!

239 Achilles Tang  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:25:35pm

re: #235 Olsonist

On favorites. Will look.

240 Cato the Elder  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:26:11pm

re: #230 Bagua

Do you break down your per page rate by paragraph or word for things like web-pages?

Yep. I also do special rates for people I like, interesting jobs, or because I’m starving.

Also hourlies for things that are hard to quantify.

And if you’re a famous German poet, it’s only $100 per stanza.

241 Donna Ballard  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:27:39pm

re: #235 Olsonist

Your life just ended.

ITunesU has Berkeley, Stanford, MIT, Yale, …, full length courses in video and audio. Some teachers gather a following and respond to questions. I’ve been following Isabelle Pafford for quite a while. She has a wonderful read on the Roman Republic.

Pull up ITunes (yes, even on a PC), open the store page, click the iTunes U tab.

But I warn you, your life just ended. It’s addictive.

I got an ipod touch for Christmas from RWC and I love it! I have over 400 songs and twenty or so games and apps. I only listens to the music when I’m outside walking the cats and or working on my plants. I think its rude to block out poor RWC with music, he gets so annoyed when I don’t answer his questions because I can’t hear him due to the plugs in my ears.

242 Donna Ballard  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:28:39pm

re: #237 HoosierHoops

Did you know you can make 50,000 dollars a month working from home?

If I could do that I wouldn’t need to be getting my unemployment checks now would I? :)

243 Bagua  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:28:52pm

re: #240 Cato the Elder

Yep. I also do special rates for people I like, interesting jobs, or because I’m starving.

Ouch, I guess that means no discount for Bagua?

244 Cato the Elder  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:29:36pm

re: #243 Bagua

Ouch, I guess that means no discount for Bagua?

Who the hell said I don’t like you?

245 Donna Ballard  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:30:26pm

re: #234 Naso Tang

Ebay, Ebay, Ebay.

Three little phrases for you:
Rip off, Rip off, Rip off!

246 Olsonist  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:31:02pm

Am I the only person who roots for the scammers? Really, the victims sound impenetrably stupid and I think the scammers are doing us a service by reducing the victims chances to multiply. They’re improving the gene pool, so to speak.

247 Bagua  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:31:43pm

re: #244 Cato the Elder

Who the hell said I don’t like you?

I believe it was Lucius Valerius Flaccus himself, but I’ll have to check my journal to be sure.

248 Donna Ballard  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:32:02pm

Gotta go P/u RWC now, BBL! :-)

249 brookly red  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:34:01pm

re: #237 HoosierHoops

Did you know you can make 50,000 dollars a month working from home?

well you need to be elected first…

250 Cato the Elder  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:34:36pm

Speaking of the vagaries of translation work, I just got an email from an underling at the place that hired me to do my current job: a short story, very interesting, by a German author.

Deadline when I took this job: February 21.

So now this lady’s writing me to find out if she can have the finished, polished, gleaming literary translation by no later than Thursday morning - February 18.

Why? Because they need lots of time to print, collate and copy the text for the event on the 22nd.

I’m going to plead insanity - theirs - as the reason I can’t comply.

251 Cato the Elder  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:35:12pm

re: #247 Bagua

I believe it was Lucius Valerius Flaccus himself, but I’ll have to check my journal to be sure.

Oh, screw him. He’s always makin’ stuff up.

252 Bagua  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:37:30pm

re: #251 Cato the Elder

Oh, screw him. He’s always makin’ stuff up.

Was he not your friend in the early days?

253 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:39:14pm

A while back some 419eater goons sent some deserving lads on an epic safari to the border of Darfur. For weeks. It caught the attention of “This American Life”.

The “short” (30-minute) audio version is here:
www.thisamericanlife.org

The vastly long and extremely NSFW message board thread is here:
forum.419eater.com

254 Olsonist  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:41:53pm

re: #246 Olsonist

But then I really like the 419eaters. The sport of it.

255 Decatur Deb  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:42:26pm

re: #169 Jeff In Ohio

Pshaw, there are lot’s of Catholics in Kentucky. I married one from Louisville.

Lily of the West

256 Achilles Tang  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:43:45pm

re: #245 Dragon_Lady

Three little phrases for you:
Rip off, Rip off, Rip off!

Three words for you:

Capitalism, capitalism, capitalism

257 reine.de.tout  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:44:15pm

re: #232 Dragon_Lady

Good Afternoon Everyone and Happy Tuesday to you all!

Happy Tuesday!
It’s a very special Tuesday today!
It’s … Mardi Gras!
And Lent begins at midnight.

258 reine.de.tout  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:45:38pm

re: #257 reine.de.tout

Happy Tuesday!
It’s a very special Tuesday today!
It’s … Mardi Gras!
And Lent begins at midnight.

Which means, I guess, that I’d better finish the choco ice cream tonight!

259 The Curmudgeon  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:46:21pm

Email scamming is lucrative and easy! Send me all your money and I’ll teach you how it’s done.

260 Achilles Tang  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:46:31pm

re: #257 reine.de.tout

Happy Tuesday!
It’s a very special Tuesday today!
It’s … Mardi Gras!
And Lent begins at midnight.

What’s the temperature in N.O?

And do the two have anything in common?

261 reine.de.tout  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:47:58pm

It’s 46 in New Orleans.

And … do what two have anything in common?

262 Cato the Elder  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:48:22pm

re: #252 Bagua

Was he not your friend in the early days?

Lots of friends from the early days are now busy trying to have me tried, convicted, sentenced and banished.

Good luck!

263 arethusa  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:50:43pm

re: #262 Cato the Elder

Lots of friends from the early days are now busy trying to have me tried, convicted, sentenced and banished.

Good luck!

But once you got to be Censor, you showed them! ;-)

264 Achilles Tang  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:52:51pm

re: #261 reine.de.tout

It’s 46 in New Orleans.

And … do what two have anything in common?

Lent and Mardi Gras; or is my ignorance showing?

265 Achilles Tang  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:53:43pm

re: #262 Cato the Elder

Lots of friends from the early days are now busy trying to have me tried, convicted, sentenced and banished.

Good luck!

Lost me there.

266 Donna Ballard  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:53:57pm

re: #258 reine.de.tout

Which means, I guess, that I’d better finish the choco ice cream tonight!

RWC wants to know if you got the LOL Cat he sent you?

267 reine.de.tout  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:54:46pm

re: #266 Dragon_Lady

RWC wants to know if you got the LOL Cat he sent you?

NO!
Resend.
Please!

268 reine.de.tout  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:55:46pm

re: #264 Naso Tang

Lent and Mardi Gras; or is my ignorance showing?

Mardi Gras = Fat Tuesday.
It’s the day one parties hard before the fasting of Lent begins on Ash Wednesday.

Really - did you not know that?

269 Cato the Elder  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:56:32pm

re: #265 Naso Tang

Lost me there.

It’s a Roman thing. Once you laid down an office, any jackanapes could hale you into court and charge you with malfeasance while you where proconsul for Hither Spain.

My friend Cicero made his pile as a lawyer on both sides - accuser and counsel for the defense.

270 Donna Ballard  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:59:05pm

re: #256 Naso Tang

Three words for you:

Capitalism, capitalism, capitalism

Yeah I got that part but I have yet to hear if anyone who buys something off ebay is truly happy with their purchases. A friend of mine actually bought something and tried to send it back and the package wast returned back to her unopened, recipient unknown. It was a bogus address and she lost her money. I’m going to have to log off now, RWC wants to log in. Take care everyone! :-)

271 Donna Ballard  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:00:33pm

re: #267 reine.de.tout

NO!
Resend.
Please!

Okay, will do. I’m logging out, take care my friend! Have a Happy Mardi Gras! :-)

272 ryannon  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:03:18pm

re: #149 Cato the Elder

What you got?

I generally charge 60 bucks a page.

If a standard page is approximately 250 words or 1,500 signs/symbols, those are extremely reasonable rates. Especially for someone with your background and linguistic expertise.

I very occasionally hear about German/English translating projects here and would be glad to pass the information on to you.

273 Political Atheist  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:04:50pm

re: #267 reine.de.tout

For you my friend…
icanhascheezburger.com

274 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:09:39pm

re: #8 jamesfirecat

Sadly when you think about it, Emails actually are free, if they were running this kind of scam by regular mail they’d have to pay for stamps, paper, envelopes…

They used to. My father’s business actually got a paper version of one of these, back in the days before e-mail was common.

275 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:12:44pm

re: #32 The Sanity Inspector

The most contemptible one I ever got purported to be from some rogue American special forces soldiers, wanting a safe places to stash some of Saddam’s loot.

I think the worst ones I got were right after the big tsunami, claiming to involve money from people who’d died.

Probably the most ILLEGAL one I ever got purported to be from the Director of the FBI. Even had a link to the FBI’s website, so you could see his picture, and that he was, in fact, the Director.

276 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:14:02pm

re: #39 albusteve

ahaha!…if your crippled they give you money!…wheee!

I was once in one of those meetings where they warn you about having to pay your student loans—‘unless you die or are maimed’. A kid actually raised his hand and inquired politely, “How badly maimed do you have to be?”

277 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:15:11pm

re: #44 RogueOne

It made you feel better to give the feds your email address? You’re now on a list somewhere.//

IIRC, we faxed the snail-mail Nigerian scam to the local FBI office.

278 reine.de.tout  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:16:33pm

re: #273 Rightwingconspirator

For you my friend…
[Link: icanhascheezburger.com…]

RWC, you still here!
That is too funny!
I’m about to put it up on my FB account!
THANKS!

279 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:19:26pm

re: #84 Alouette

My mother sends me every scam and urban legend email. I told her to please stop and she said, “but I want you to debunk them for me.” I told her to go to snopes.com but apparently she can’t navigate that site so I have to do her snopesing for her.

I used to be on a list with a bunch of middle-aged-to-elderly people I worked with on some activism projects. The age is important, because they would believe every hysterical thing someone sent them about how Pepsi is giving money to Hamas or something, and start beating the drums and organizing. Then I would Snopes it. They were never grateful, and they got really huffy when I suggested that people check this crap before sending it on.

280 Political Atheist  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:19:43pm

re: #278 reine.de.tout

You are so welcome! Yeah, I’m lurking two threads. Really loved the music post tonight. Right now its about just hanging with the Dragon and sipping some wine.

281 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:20:27pm

re: #89 Obdicut

I got a bizarre “I’m a Jew stuck in Africa: get me out” email soliciting money from me.

It combined an awful lot of an awful bunch of different varieties of racism.

My favorite was the one addressed “To My Islamic Brother”. All I could think of to say to that was, “Dude, you have the wrong e-mail address.”

282 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:22:20pm

re: #114 Bagua

Is the Arabic alphabet similar to Hebrew?

If one learned the letters could one read the words that are similar?

No, totally different.

283 reine.de.tout  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:22:45pm

re: #280 Rightwingconspirator

You are so welcome! Yeah, I’m lurking two threads. Really loved the music post tonight. Right now its about just hanging with the Dragon and sipping some wine.

{RWC and Lady Dragon}
Have a good evening!

284 reine.de.tout  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:23:19pm

re: #281 SanFranciscoZionist

My favorite was the one addressed “To My Islamic Brother”. All I could think of to say to that was, “Dude, you have the wrong e-mail address.”

You got an e-mail addressed to “My Islamic Brother”?
hahahahahahahahaha!
*snicker*
*snort*

285 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:24:46pm

re: #133 iceweasel

Oh god, yeah, those are great! The filthy limo that shows up an hour late covered in puke. lol

The ones that make me sad are the wedding ones. When someone has spent a bundle hiring some wedding photographer and the guy’s a drunk or whatever and all the pictures are of his thumb.

It’s small in the grand scheme of things— you had a great day, married the right person, all your friends and family were there — but for some of these couples it’s like the whole event is now ‘ruined’ for them. Sad.

My wedding was photographed by the same lady who photographed my bat mitzvah. She’s a lovely Jewish grandma. The photos were lovely. It took us almost a year to get them, due to a litany of circumstances that included her having to move, a new computer, and a deep desire to make each one perfect.

286 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:27:23pm

re: #180 brookly red

I respectfully disagree.

I like Judge Judy’s bailiff. I could use a bailiff.

287 Bagua  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:27:41pm

re: #282 SanFranciscoZionist

No, totally different.

It will be interesting to see what you post as you work through this one. :)

288 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:29:00pm

re: #192 arethusa

Sorry to say I only know Greek and Latin and no other Semitic languages. You want a book on comparative linguistics in Indo-European languages. Maybe “How to Kill a Dragon” by Calvert Watkins would interest you (but I’ve never read it and can’t attest to how good it is).

Arabic and Hebrew are Afro-Asiatic, actually.

Lots of words are similar, in my experience, don’t know about the grand total of the language.

289 Cheechako  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:32:24pm

re: #63 brookly red

you know I thought about that, but I can’t be in 3 places at once so this seemed like a good idea at the time. F’n FedEx has sunk lower than the USPS.


I’m late in the thread and this may already have been mentioned. File a dispute with the CC company. You paid for a product and service which was not fulfilled.

290 Achilles Tang  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:42:13pm

re: #268 reine.de.tout

Mardi Gras = Fat Tuesday.
It’s the day one parties hard before the fasting of Lent begins on Ash Wednesday.

Really - did you not know that?

Well, I kind of had an inkling, which is why I asked but honestly, no. I just never associated debauchery, drunkenness, beads and tits (in 46 degree weather) with religion.

On the other hand, I love Christmas and it’s trappings, and I’m not religious as you know, so I am not being critical by any means.

291 reine.de.tout  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:20:01pm

re: #290 Naso Tang

Well, I kind of had an inkling, which is why I asked but honestly, no. I just never associated debauchery, drunkenness, beads and tits (in 46 degree weather) with religion.

On the other hand, I love Christmas and it’s trappings, and I’m not religious as you know, so I am not being critical by any means.

LOL.
Yes, you see - it all ends at midnight. So the idea is to go full-out until then.

292 Why I Never!  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:20:57pm

re: #151 The Sanity Inspector

At least you have recourse with a professional photog. Pity the newlyweds who hire a young snapshooting relative, and all the photos have his girlfriend in them.

One of the most creative solutions I heard of was to give every guest a disposable camera. Then the newlyweds would go through the photos and pick their favourite ones.
Kind of a nice way to ensure you have lots of pictures of everyone there, especially as at a big reception, the couple often doesn’t get to see a lot of what’s going on or spend a lot of time with everyone.

293 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 8:56:15pm

re: #211 reine.de.tout

I would like to learn - or at least learn about - the alphabet and sounds - could you get the name of the book for me?

Teach yourself Hebrew (various levels).

294 Nemesis6  Wed, Feb 17, 2010 2:05:30am

Haha, countryman go chop dem mugu oyinbo mans dollar

295 Jerusalemyte  Wed, Feb 17, 2010 1:54:27pm

re: #257 reine.de.tout

Who Dat?

Purim Feb 28th

Purim in Jerusalem March 1st

Throw me somethin’ mister!!!!


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