Avlon: The Return of the Fright Wing

John Avlon has a piece at The Daily Beast on the appalling rise in conservative circles of the once marginalized John Birch Society, and their co-sponsorship of CPAC: Return of the Fright Wing.

When the John Birch Society announced that it would be co-sponsoring CPAC, its press release declared that “true conservative leaders are hard to find these days, especially in a movement dominated by neoconservatives and RINOs (Republicans in Name Only).” With all the enthusiasm for RINO hunting these days, it’s worth remembering that the Birchers initiated some of the first obsessive attempts to characterize any dissidents as heretics. They introduced the term “ComSymp”—for “communist sympathizer”—that allowed any skeptic to be stigmatized without the difficulty of proving he or she was communist. At the time, Republican Senator Milton R. Young of North Dakota reflected on the Birchers’ obsession with what would become known as RINO hunting: “Strangely enough, most of the criticism is leveled not against liberal public officials but against more middle of the road, and even conservative Republicans.”

The re-emergence of the John Birch Society with a veneer of respectability given to it by co-sponsorship of CPAC is a troubling sign of the times, a decision on par with the National Tea Party Convention giving prime-time speaking slots to Tom Tancredo and WorldNet Daily editor Joseph Farah. It is an invitation to isolation and ridicule. As a report by the California attorney general’s office on the John Birch Society in 1961 stated, “In America, preposterousness prevents the acceptance but not the expression of ideas.” The question for those at CPAC is: Are they tolerating the Birchers? Or accepting them?

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1 Kragar  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:15:30am

Paranoid conspiracy driven fear mongers attempting to exercise control over a major political party? What could go wrong?

2 Obdicut  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:15:47am

Here's a little sampling from the Birch newspaper:

Antiwar Catholics on Ash Wednesday

Toy Maker Targets Young Girls With Occult Board Game

Martin Luther King: The Celebration of a Myth

The Crusades: When Christendom Pushed Back

[Link: www.thenewamerican.com...]


Fucking ugly.

3 Locker  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:16:52am

It sure seems like these positions and attitudes will polarize and split the right thus reducing their chances of winning elections. Things happen in waves and I'm sure we'll see the pendulum swing back but until then it seems like strange things are afoot with the Circle R.

4 Charles Johnson  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:17:35am

CPAC is now being broadcast on C-SPAN. Tea party kook Dana Loesch is currently speaking, telling people to harass liberals everywhere -- at work, in restaurants, etc. She's telling people they should bring Gadsden flags to work.

5 Charles Johnson  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:18:02am

There's an audience shot -- every single face is white.

6 American-African  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:18:18am

re: #2 Obdicut

Here's a little sampling from the Birch newspaper:

Antiwar Catholics on Ash Wednesday

Toy Maker Targets Young Girls With Occult Board Game

Martin Luther King: The Celebration of a Myth

The Crusades: When Christendom Pushed Back

Wow, just... wow.

7 Kragar  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:20:54am

re: #4 Charles

CPAC is now being broadcast on C-SPAN. Tea party kook Dana Loesch is currently speaking, telling people to harass liberals everywhere -- at work, in restaurants, etc. She's telling people they should bring Gadsden flags to work.

Because we all know if there is one way to get people to embrace your cause, its to harass them everywhere they go in a hostile and combatitive way.

8 MandyManners  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:23:04am

I'd like to attend and hold up a poster with photographs of Gus Hall and Angela Davis on it. I wonder how long it would take for somone to realize who they are.

9 Kragar  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:23:04am

re: #5 Charles

There's an audience shot -- every single face is white.

Going to go out on a limb and say not a lot of people with Jewish, Buddhist, Hindu or Muslim backgrounds in attendence.

10 MandyManners  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:23:49am

re: #2 Obdicut

Here's a little sampling from the Birch newspaper:

Antiwar Catholics on Ash Wednesday

Toy Maker Targets Young Girls With Occult Board Game

Martin Luther King: The Celebration of a Myth

The Crusades: When Christendom Pushed Back

[Link: www.thenewamerican.com...]


Fucking ugly.

What? Nothing about Jews?

11 Kragar  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:24:09am

re: #10 MandyManners

What? Nothing about Jews?

Its implied.

12 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:25:02am
13 Political Atheist  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:25:15am

Any online video coverage?

14 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:25:30am

OT: The NTSB is saying the plane crash in Austin may have been intentional. The pilot set his house on fire before flying the plane.

15 cliffster  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:27:25am

re: #14 NJDhockeyfan

OT: The NTSB is saying the plane crash in Austin may have been intentional. The pilot set his house on fire before flying the plane.

My buddy got a picture:

Building is gutted

16 avanti  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:28:08am

O.T. Office plane crash in Austin was intentional, the guy set fire to his house before the crash. (Fox news)

17 Kragar  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:28:19am

Arrest the head of Mossad, says Dubai police chief

Dahi Khalfan Tamin, the emirate's police chief, called for such a warrant to be used against the head of Mossad as well because he belives it is likely that the Israeli spy agency was behind the killing.

In pre-recorded comments to Dubai TV he called on the organisation to issue “a red notice against the head of Mossad ... as a killer in case Mossad is proved to be behind the crime, which is likely now”.

18 shiplord kirel  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:28:42am

Not coincidentally, the wingnut net is rife with Paulian/JBS anti-war propaganda.
For those who don't know, the JBS has opposed every US war since its founding in 1958, including Vietnam and the First Persian Gulf War. It retroactively opposes US participation in WW2. Paul, of course, is an ostritch like isolationist. It plays well to resurgent antisemites that much of our current trouble centers in the Middle East, allowing them to blame Israel at every turn.
What is new is the widespread acceptance of these positions among the right-wing base, quite a change from a few years ago when GWB and Rumsfeld could do no wrong.

19 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:28:47am

re: #15 cliffster

My buddy got a picture:

Building is gutted

WOW.

20 Buck  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:28:58am

re: #10 MandyManners

What? Nothing about Jews?

Actually that is the specialty from the far left....

Have we forgotten this already?

protocols of Kos, John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt · The Israel Lobby, everything we saw at all the anti-war protests?

21 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:33:37am

re: #2 Obdicut

Toy Maker Targets Young Girls With Occult Board Game

Come on, that HAS to be from The Onion! (I know it's not, I just checked out the story)

22 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:34:51am

re: #20 Buck

Actually that is the specialty from the far left...

Have we forgotten this already?

protocols of Kos, John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt · The Israel Lobby, everything we saw at all the anti-war protests?

A Moronic Convergence, we called the meeting of the twains, back then.

23 shiplord kirel  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:36:20am

The JBS does a good job of concealing its actual (and batshit crazy) beliefs. I have a rare copy of The Hidden Hand, which was virtually the Bible of JBS conspiracism in the 1960s.
According to this, the international monetary (ie Jewish) conspiracy goes all the way back to the 18th century and the various Masonic plots to overthrow the traditional systems of European monarchy. This, in turn, is an extension of an even older effort whose ultimate objective is the destruction of Christianity. The Enlightenment, the American Revolution, communism, fascism, and secularism are all aspects of this centuries-old conspiracy.

24 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:36:51am

I once saw a John Birch pamplet from the very early 60s. It was accusing John Kennedy of being soft on communism, and openly wondering what could be done to keep him from giving away the store.

25 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:38:32am

re: #1 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Paranoid conspiracy driven fear mongers attempting to exercise control over a major political party? What could go wrong?

Ausland, ausland, nur nicht hier
sagen alle heute wir.

26 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:38:59am

re: #23 shiplord kirel

The JBS does a good job of concealing its actual (and batshit crazy) beliefs. I have a rare copy of The Hidden Hand, which was virtually the Bible of JBS conspiracism in the 1960s.
According to this, the international monetary (ie Jewish) conspiracy goes all the way back to the 18th century and the various Masonic plots to overthrow the traditional systems of European monarchy. This, in turn, is an extension of an even older effort whose ultimate objective is the destruction of Christianity. The Enlightenment, the American Revolution, communism, fascism, and secularism are all aspects of this centuries-old conspiracy.

The American Revolution? For serious? Look, I know Teh Crazy (tm) is strong with these guys, but I fail to see how a country which was partially founded by Christian religious dissidents would be part of a massive conspiracy to, er, destroy Christianity.

27 MandyManners  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:39:08am

re: #20 Buck

Actually that is the specialty from the far left...

Have we forgotten this already?

protocols of Kos, John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt · The Israel Lobby, everything we saw at all the anti-war protests?

They all meet at Jew-Hate Junction.

28 SteveC  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:39:54am

re: #10 MandyManners

What? Nothing about Jews?

The front page is only so large! As Paul Harvey would say, "Page two!"

29 MandyManners  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:41:03am

re: #23 shiplord kirel

The JBS does a good job of concealing its actual (and batshit crazy) beliefs. I have a rare copy of The Hidden Hand, which was virtually the Bible of JBS conspiracism in the 1960s.
According to this, the international monetary (ie Jewish) conspiracy goes all the way back to the 18th century and the various Masonic plots to overthrow the traditional systems of European monarchy. This, in turn, is an extension of an even older effort whose ultimate objective is the destruction of Christianity. The Enlightenment, the American Revolution, communism, fascism, and secularism are all aspects of this centuries-old conspiracy.

Nothing about Adam Weishaupt?

30 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:42:51am

re: #26 thedopefishlives

The American Revolution? For serious? Look, I know Teh Crazy (tm) is strong with these guys, but I fail to see how a country which was partially founded by Christian religious dissidents would be part of a massive conspiracy to, er, destroy Christianity.

See how devious it all is?

31 Cokezero  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:43:40am

re: #23 shiplord kirel

What they don't tell you is that the John Birch Society is part of the conspiracy as well...

We are through the looking glass here, people!

32 garhighway  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:43:42am

re: #8 MandyManners

I'd like to attend and hold up a poster with photographs of Gus Hall and Angela Davis on it. I wonder how long it would take for somone to realize who they are.

They wouldn't. But the fact that one is a black woman would alarm them, and probably get you escorted out.

33 Guanxi88  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:43:44am

re: #15 cliffster

My buddy got a picture:

Building is gutted

[Link: www.myfoxaustin.com...]

Live feed

34 MandyManners  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:44:28am

re: #32 garhighway

They wouldn't. But the fact that one is a black woman would alarm them, and probably get you escorted out.

I doubt it. If they knew who she is, that would do the trick.

35 Kragar  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:44:44am

re: #26 thedopefishlives

The American Revolution? For serious? Look, I know Teh Crazy (tm) is strong with these guys, but I fail to see how a country which was partially founded by Christian religious dissidents would be part of a massive conspiracy to, er, destroy Christianity.

ITS A TRAP!

36 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:46:36am

re: #30 The Sanity Inspector

See how devious it all is?

"So what are we going to do tonight, Brain?"

"The same thing we do every night, Pinky... Try to take over the world!"

37 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:47:17am

Considering this quote from their press release...

“true conservative leaders are hard to find these days, especially in a movement dominated by neoconservatives and RINOs (Republicans in Name Only).”

... it appears that the JBS are the ones who are being marginalized, they can't find the sycophants they though were available. The JBS admits above that the party is dominated by moderates.

38 shiplord kirel  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:47:38am

CNN update
A federal official has confirmed that the pilot who crashed into the building in Austin had set his own house on fire, stolen the plane, and crashed it deliberately.
The building houses IRS offices and the FBI is next door.

39 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:47:40am

re: #26 thedopefishlives

The American Revolution? For serious? Look, I know Teh Crazy (tm) is strong with these guys, but I fail to see how a country which was partially founded by Christian religious dissidents would be part of a massive conspiracy to, er, destroy Christianity.

When you've got Kool-Aid in your veins, anything is possible.

40 Kragar  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:48:09am

re: #36 thedopefishlives

"So what are we going to do tonight, Brain?"

"The same thing we do every night, Pinky... Try to take over the world!"

So they were Jews all along?

/

41 SteveC  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:48:49am

re: #35 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

ITS A TRAP!

RETREAT! Everyone retreat on the Admiral's command!

42 albusteve  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:49:33am

re: #24 The Sanity Inspector

I once saw a John Birch pamplet from the very early 60s. It was accusing John Kennedy of being soft on communism, and openly wondering what could be done to keep him from giving away the store.

hmmm...never considered that angle....yikes!

43 Claire  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:49:57am

re: #7 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Because we all know if there is one way to get people to embrace your cause, its to harass them everywhere they go in a hostile and combatitive way.

Didn't Obama establish that the first rule of community organizing is to "get in their faces and don't back down?"

44 Guanxi88  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:50:22am

re: #24 The Sanity Inspector

I once saw a John Birch pamplet from the very early 60s. It was accusing John Kennedy of being soft on communism, and openly wondering what could be done to keep him from giving away the store.

Don't kmow if you heard - but a disturbed guy who called himself a communist was the triggerman on that one.

45 Kragar  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:50:27am

re: #41 SteveC

RETREAT! Everyone retreat on the Admiral's command!

We have no choice, General SteveC! Our cruisers can't repel firepower of that magnitude!

46 Guanxi88  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:50:58am

re: #43 Claire

Didn't Obama establish that the first rule of community organizing is to "get in their faces and don't back down?"

That's different, and he'd be pleased to tell you why.

47 Charles Johnson  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:51:22am

And Dick Cheney takes the stage to wild applause and hard rock music.

48 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:51:55am

re: #47 Charles

And Dick Cheney takes the stage to wild applause and hard rock music.

From the ridiculous to the sublime, as the saying goes.

49 Kragar  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:52:33am

re: #47 Charles

And Dick Cheney takes the stage to wild applause and hard rock music.

I was expecting the Imperial march from Star Wars.

50 albusteve  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:53:31am

looks like the TPs didn't implode from their own reckless ideology after all....question is, how much juice do they have at election time

51 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:53:43am

re: #49 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I was expecting the Imperial march from Star Wars.

Just as long as he doesn't open with "I find your lack of faith disturbing."

/Wait for that one to sink in just a bit

52 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:54:12am

re: #49 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I was expecting the Imperial march from Star Wars.

Gah, NO, that's my theme. Cheney is not, and never was, a Sith!
*Force Throws various objects angrily about the room*
/:)
Good afternoon, LGF.

53 Lidane  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:54:39am

re: #15 cliffster

My buddy got a picture:

Building is gutted

Oh my god. I've been there. My university offers evening classes in the building next to the one that was hit. I've taken classes out there in the past.

54 Guanxi88  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:55:08am

re: #53 Lidane

Oh my god. I've been there. My university offers evening classes in the building next to the one that was hit. I've taken classes out there in the past.

Hilltopper, are you? I work at the South Campus.

55 Lidane  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:56:36am

re: #54 Guanxi88

Hilltopper, are you? I work at the South Campus.

Just graduated in December. I'm now trying to get into the DMBA program. With any luck, I will. :)

56 cliffster  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:56:56am

re: #53 Lidane

Oh my god. I've been there. My university offers evening classes in the building next to the one that was hit. I've taken classes out there in the past.

It's awful.

57 Kragar  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:57:19am

re: #52 Varek Raith

Gah, NO, that's my theme. Cheney is not, and never was, a Sith!
*Force Throws various objects angrily about the room*
/:)
Good afternoon, LGF.

I always liked this for a theme.

58 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:57:38am

OT: I'm getting tired of blaming the deed and not the deed. Pit bulls have got to go!

59 Guanxi88  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 9:57:43am

re: #55 Lidane

Just graduated in December. I'm now trying to get into the DMBA program. With any luck, I will. :)

OOH! DMBA is spendy, spendy and very freakin' hard. You end up with what amounts to an MA & an MBA, and you do it at an accelerated pace.

Make sure you explore all your options to pay for it.

60 Lidane  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 10:01:34am

re: #59 Guanxi88

OOH! DMBA is spendy, spendy and very freakin' hard. You end up with what amounts to an MA & an MBA, and you do it at an accelerated pace.

I've got the grades, the GRE score, and the desire. I just need to get my recommendations in, which hasn't happened yet. Blargh.

I want that degree so badly. It's right up my alley. And I thrive on stress and on deadlines beating me over the head. I might get consumed by my stress and think I'm failing at everything while it happens, but then I end up throwing everything I have at it and end up getting straight A's.

I'm looking forward to the challenge if I get in. :)

Make sure you explore all your options to pay for it.

Heh. I'm already on that. I looked at the cost and wanted to cry, but it will be SO worth if I can get it.

62 Guanxi88  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 10:01:57am

re: #57 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I always liked this for a theme.


[Video]

To be played at my coronation, and in order:

63 Guanxi88  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 10:03:06am

re: #61 reine.de.tout

What?

Obama-obsessed Amy Bishop is a racist tea-partier in disguise?

Gotta be - there's not now, nor has there ever been, any violence or threat of violence originating anywhere other than from the Right.

64 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 10:03:30am

re: #61 reine.de.tout

What?

Obama-obsessed Amy Bishop is a racist tea-partier in disguise?

My Navigational Computer just exploded trying to plot that article's course.
:/

65 reine.de.tout  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 10:04:06am

re: #64 Varek Raith

My Navigational Computer just exploded trying to plot that article's course.
:/

The article doesn't quite say that.
But I thought it was pretty convoluted.

66 cliffster  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 10:05:03am

re: #61 reine.de.tout

What?

Obama-obsessed Amy Bishop is a racist tea-partier in disguise?

Heh, typical. The article certainly tries to tie the TP in with it.

67 Lidane  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 10:05:03am

re: #61 reine.de.tout

What?

Obama-obsessed Amy Bishop is a racist tea-partier in disguise?

Ugh. Why can't "She's a batshit loony who's been violent before" be enough of an explanation? Why bring anything else into it?

68 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 10:05:39am

Fuck the JBS trash and those who choose not to condemn them.

69 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 10:08:17am

re: #8 MandyManners

I'd like to attend and hold up a poster with photographs of Gus Hall and Angela Davis on it. I wonder how long it would take for somone to realize who they are.

What would the point of that be, exactly? I mean, I'm not discouraging you, I just don't see the immediate connection.

70 reine.de.tout  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 10:08:26am

re: #67 Lidane

Ugh. Why can't "She's a batshit loony who's been violent before" be enough of an explanation? Why bring anything else into it?

Exactly.
I've seen more stories of her shenanigans as this story proceeds, including interviews with former neighbors, and she was full-out insane, and it should have been obvious to anyone.

71 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 10:08:39am

re: #65 reine.de.tout

The article doesn't quite say that.
But I thought it was pretty convoluted.

Indeed.

72 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 10:11:08am

re: #26 thedopefishlives

The American Revolution? For serious? Look, I know Teh Crazy (tm) is strong with these guys, but I fail to see how a country which was partially founded by Christian religious dissidents would be part of a massive conspiracy to, er, destroy Christianity.

They were Freemasons, ya know. And connected to the Templars.

/

73 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 10:13:32am

re: #43 Claire

Didn't Obama establish that the first rule of community organizing is to "get in their faces and don't back down?"

Is there any context to indicate that that meant harassing people in restaurants?

74 Lidane  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 10:16:31am

re: #43 Claire

Didn't Obama establish that the first rule of community organizing is to "get in their faces and don't back down?"

Because that directly translates into harassment in restaurants and being a belligerent asshole to get your point across. Oh, and hanging this up at work is totally like trying to bring people together to improve a community. *eyeroll*

75 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 10:18:12am

re: #74 Lidane

Because that directly translates into harassment in restaurants and being a belligerent asshole to get your point across. Oh, and hanging this up at work is totally like trying to bring people together to improve a community. *eyeroll*

Heh, it's like they don't want anyone who disagrees with them on their side.
Hmmm, yeah, that'll work.
9_9

76 zora  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 10:19:12am

re: #61 reine.de.tout

big jump there, unless they are privy to additional info. she also killed her brother years ago. he was not a minority. the woman seems plain ol' crazy.

77 Cokezero  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 10:22:03am

OT: Not sure if this is real or a hoax, but this is floating around fark as supposedly being the manifesto of the guy who crashed the plane in Austin.

[Link: embeddedart.com...]

79 Kragar  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 10:30:10am

Testing something to compare it to the next thread.

80 Kragar  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 10:30:25am

re: #79 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Testing something to compare it to the next thread.

Second test.

81 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 10:35:31am

re: #77 Cokezero

OT: Not sure if this is real or a hoax, but this is floating around fark as supposedly being the manifesto of the guy who crashed the plane in Austin.

[Link: embeddedart.com...]

from the CNN article:

1:18 p.m.: A federal law enforcement official tells CNN that they believe the plane belonged to Joseph Andrew Stack.

WHOIS info on embeddedart.com matches the name, and the city is near Austin.

82 Hawkins  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 10:36:45am

Goddammit! I consider myself to be reasonably conservative. I would love it if there was a Conservative Political Action Conference for me to go to.

I believe that Reasonable Conservative is the opposite of most of what I see these folks are raging about.

Yes, I'm pissed off about what's happened over the last ten years, and I like small, efficient government. But I do NOT hate gay folks, and I do NOT want a theocracy, and I think that cooperation is a GOOD thing.

I guess I'm going to get harassed in restaurants now.

83 Cokezero  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 10:38:54am

re: #81 negativ

Yep, looks like it is legit.

[Link: www.statesman.com...]

84 Lidane  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 10:44:31am

re: #82 Hawkins

I guess I'm going to get harassed in restaurants now.

At least you'll be among more reasonable company when it happens. Take comfort in that. :)

85 Lidane  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 10:46:04am

re: #83 Cokezero

Yep, looks like it is legit.

[Link: www.statesman.com...]

Oh geez. If that's real, I just...I can't even wrap my head around that.

86 fizzlogic  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 11:26:31am

I was a RINO for a while before I left the GOP. But I don't think a RINO is really a Republican IN Name Only. It's a Republican who tries to actually govern while in office. Short of deregulating, cutting taxes, and cutting spending there's not much left for a true Republican to do. Although, I guess they can rant about abortion, homos, and school prayer.

87 Vambo  Thu, Feb 18, 2010 5:20:35pm

re: #43 Claire

Didn't Obama establish that the first rule of community organizing is to "get in their faces and don't back down?"

yes, to get off their asses and FIND JOBS.

but I'm sure you knew that. someone has to be the contrarian, right?


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#Thegreatpoolpondconversion - 201122 Saturday was general maintenance around the place.Mowing, weed whacking, palm tree trimming, etc.Nothing picture worthy or really, even pond related. Sunday was more rain. We really were lucky for that first year. Not one Sunday did we get rained ...
dangerman
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Nduduzo Makhathini - UmlothaMusic video by Nduduzo Makhathini performing Umlotha. © 2020 Universal Music (Pty) Ltd South Africa vevo.ly
Thanos
1 week, 1 day ago
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Brian Eno - Decline and Fall (From ‘O Nome Da Morte’) The official music video for "Decline and Fall”, a track from the new album “Film Music 1976 - 2020”, is a cinematic collaboration between Brian Eno and acclaimed Brazilian film director Henrique Goldman which contemplates rain and fire, fiction ...
Thanos
1 week, 5 days ago
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Brian Eno - Like I Was a Spectator 'Like I Was A Spectator', a brand new track by Brian Eno with Daniel Lanois and Roger Eno from ‘Apollo – Atmospheres & Soundtracks – Extended Edition’. The video was created using rare N.A.S.A. footage.Order now: brianeno.lnk.to Follow Brian ...
Thanos
1 week, 5 days ago
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#Thegreatpoolpondconversion - 201115After two really sunny and swell days since Eta left, Saturday was a mix of mostly sun and a bit of rain.We still managed to be really productive both days anyway. Got all the lava rock washed and shoveled into ...
dangerman
2 weeks ago
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Michael Kiwanuka - Solid Ground (Live at the V&A) Listen to the Mercury Prize winning album ’KIWANUKA' now: michaelkiwanuka.lnk.to Michael Kiwanuka performing Solid Ground taken from the Mercury Prize winning album 'KIWANUKA' live at the Victoria & Albert museum in London. Sign up to Michael's mailing list: michaelkiwanuka.lnk.toFollow ...
Thanos
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Deep Sea Diver - Impossible Weight Featuring Sharon Van Etten (Official Video) “Impossible Weight” off Deep Sea Diver’s new album 'Impossible Weight' out now. Order 'Impossible Weight' here smarturl.it Distributed by ATO Records ~~~~~~~~~ Directors: Jessica Dobson, Peter Mansen, Tyler KalbergArt direction: Jessica Dobson, Tyler KalbergDirector of photography: Tyler KalbergCamera operator ...
Thanos
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