It would seem, by their absence, that the birds don't like being on the edge... but man does?

re: #1 freetoken

The complete lack of supertankers makes him depressed.

The Ocean Doesn't Want Me Today

absolutely, by far... the very best photo yet Charles.....

re: #2 Killgore Trout

The complete lack of supertankers makes him depressed.

Without oil, what is a man?

the composition is awesome.....

re: #5 freetoken

Without oil, what is a man?

Unlubricated.

....the dark... the light.... the head down... the title.... man....

re: #5 freetoken

Without oil, what is a man?

Can't imagine it. Nothing to kill or die for, and no religion too...hmm, was that song about the middle east or something?

I come from the water.

A beautiful pic. Expresses something of my own feelings lately.

So here is a new conspiracy theory, new to me anyway. I have no idea what the source of this CT is, for all I know the person I heard it from is the sole source of this CT.

Anyhow, this conspiracy theory is regarding all the Toyota recalls. The gist...

It is a plot by the Obama admin. to discredit Toyota, a company traditionally known for reliable cars with higher than average resale values. The goal? To destroy Toyota's reputation, which will somehow magically elevate GM's rep. Just GM's rep, not all the other car manufacturers.

The reason? GM is now owned by The Government^TM, and The Government^TM will make a ton of money if they just ruin the rep of one of many car manufacturers.

If I were more interested in this person's blather than I was my own beer, I would have said "That's fucking stupid" rather than "Meh".

Well, I think Toyota is proof that well paid union labor can still do it better but I seriously doubt there are any conspiracies.

re: #13 Slumbering Behemoth

Sounds like hardcore ODS to me. That mindset just fascinates me. It's so end timey/us vs them/Manichean. Ultimately it tells me more about the person spouting the view than anything objectively true. I guess the person wouldn't be so amenable to hearing me (or you) say to them "You're so psychiatrically fascinating"?

re: #13 Slumbering Behemoth

I wouldn't go any farther than to say that this whole deal smacks of a hate-on-foreigners approach, an outlet to assign blame.

re: #13 Slumbering Behemoth

Well one of the accelerator probs happened here in San diego - a horrific accident. Tell the kook that.

re: #17 Stanley Sea

Is that the one with the awful 911 audio? It was sickening to listen to that.

re: #18 Irenicum

Is that the one with the awful 911 audio? It was sickening to listen to that.

Yah. The driver was chp too. I thought that's where it started, but there were prob others before

If I gave 1/8th of a shit, I would have asked "Where did you hear that"? Instead, I let my mind wander off into something more mellow.

There's no convincing a kook that they're being kooky.

re: #20 Slumbering Behemoth

Go cello,
to maximize your mellow:

re: #19 Stanley Sea

Didn't know the chp part. Glad they finally decided to do the right thing, even if far too long after the fact. I'm constantly amazed at how many people don't seem to realize that corporations are just as prone to short sighted selfish behaviour as anything the government can do.

re: #22 Irenicum

Didn't know the chp part. Glad they finally decided to do the right thing, even if far too long after the fact. I'm constantly amazed at how many people don't seem to realize that corporations are just as prone to short sighted selfish behaviour as anything the government can do.

Yeah-that's the truth. Night all!

re: #20 Slumbering Behemoth

I find that the only people worth engaging are the fence sitters. Those totally committed are already settled into their opinions and typically won't listen to anything that contradicts what they already believe. BTW, cool music. I like the sound.

re: #22 Irenicum

Didn't know the chp part. Glad they finally decided to do the right thing, even if far too long after the fact. I'm constantly amazed at how many people don't seem to realize that corporations are just as prone to short sighted selfish behaviour as anything the government can do.

Or they just willfully ignore their own experiences (who HASN'T worked for a company that has been woefully inefficient, wasted money, or made awful decisions?) because it doesn't match their preconceptions.

re: #20 Slumbering Behemoth

Thievery Corp is good stuff. ^^

re: #21 freetoken

You definitely enhanced my mellow with that piece. Thank you!

re: #27 Irenicum

You're welcome. Cellos are a good late night choice.

G'nite fellow lizards on this quiet wee hours thread. Tomorrow beckons.

Just found a photo of my dad, a native midwesterner, standing on the beach in California for the first time in 1967. Those can be life-changing moments.

re: #13 Slumbering Behemoth

What's funny is that's pretty much the exact opposite of what's been going i: [Link: jalopnik.com...]

Toyota's been basically negotiating sweetheart deals to avoid recalls, which the government was happy to provide, it seems. until the pressure of all the accel problems became too much to ignore.

re: #24 Irenicum

BTW, cool music. I like the sound.

You may well dig this then. From the same dudes, it's one of my favs.

re: #26 WindUpBird

Nice to know another metal head that digs TC. :)

NEUROSIS -- Through Silver and Blood -- Roadburn 2009

re: #32 Slumbering Behemoth

Thanks. It's an interesting mix. Mellow with an electronic feel.

I don't really go for electronica the beats just get on my nerves

re: #34 Conservative Moonbat

My favorite will always be the "Word As Law" album. Always.

re: #37 Slumbering Behemoth

Never owned a physical copy of that one, just a downloaded copy in fairly low bitrate mp3s. I might like it better if I heard a better quality copy.

Through Silver and Blood has always been my favorite.

My 12 year old nephew posted to facebook a few weeks ago asking if anyone knew of any "headbanging bands better than slipknot." I've been working on burning him off a DVD and rediscovering all kinds of crap.

re: #38 Conservative Moonbat

My 12 year old nephew posted to facebook a few weeks ago asking if anyone knew of any "headbanging bands better than slipknot."

I wouldn't even know how to respond to that. There are so many to choose from. Big props to you on trying to school the boy.

Slipknot? Really?

Republican Legislator: Disabled kids are God's punishment

State Delegate Bob Marshall of Manassas says disabled children are God's punishment to women who have aborted their first pregnancy.

He made that statement Thursday at a press conference to oppose state funding for Planned Parenthood.

"The number of children who are born subsequent to a first abortion with handicaps has increased dramatically. Why? Because when you abort the first born of any, nature takes its vengeance on the subsequent children," said Marshall, a Republican.

"In the Old Testament, the first born of every being, animal and man, was dedicated to the Lord. There's a special punishment Christians would suggest."

[...]

Remind me to never register again as a Republican...

re: #40 Conservative Moonbat

1. You misspelled "Mastodon".
2. Nice selection.
3. Don't do that again. It's foolhardy.

I know there isn't many here, but has anyone gone into the Kos or DU swamps to see what they have said about Dick Cheney's heart attack or whatever it was?

re: #43 Cannadian Club Akbar

I'll tell you what I say: If Cheney didn't have a personal blue code team standing by at all times, he would have been dead ten years ago.

Health care!

re: #44 Cato the Elder

C'mon, Cato. He's only had 4 heart attacks.

re: #45 Cannadian Club Akbar

C'mon, Cato. He's only had 4 heart attacks.

And a built-in defibrillator. Because he's special and important!

G'nite Lizards. Time for Sleep.

re: #42 Slumbering Behemoth

1. You misspelled "Mastodon".
2. Nice selection.
3. Don't do that again. It's foolhardy.

I thought about that some more after I did it. I blame the booze.

re: #41 freetoken

Republican Legislator: Disabled kids are God's punishment

Remind me to never register again as a Republican...

What does this asshole think about people whose firstborn children are disabled?

Wait, I don't want to know.

re: #46 Cato the Elder

And a built-in defibrillator. Because he's special and important!

Ya know, if I were to go through all the BS he has with the heart issues, I would probably just sit in a chair all day long and move as little as possible. At this point the question isn't if, but when.

re: #51 Cannadian Club Akbar

Ya know, if I were to go through all the BS he has with the heart issues, I would probably just sit in a chair all day long and move as little as possible. At this point the question isn't if, but when.

Yeah, props to him for still finding the energy to be an evil bastard.

re: #52 Cato the Elder

Yeah, props to him for still finding the energy to be an evil bastard.

Well, being part of the dark side probably gives you extra incentive. You don't want to piss off the guy leading the dark side.

Out of work? Are you a male? Well, Harry Reid says you are more likely to beat your woman.
[Link: thehill.com...]

Need to restart.

re: #54 Cannadian Club Akbar

He's probably read the Atlantic article I linked to a while back, which was an in depth look of the long term consequences of economic recession, and especially the effects of joblessness on males.

Charlie Crist at one point had a large double digit lead in the Florida Senate race. Now, not so much.
[Link: www.rasmussenreports.com...]

Hi all,

I get so dreadfully few moments to post but I have been lurking. I found this article in the Times by David Aaronovich; thought it might be interesting amongst the boffins here at LGF.

The article itself simply highlights various instances of recent memory of scientific denialism as practiced by various groups. The irony the author does give bit of attention to is how proponents of anthropogenic climate change (most environmentalists) are quick to cite scientific evidence for this development. However the same group of people (tenuously) were quick to deny the science in genetically modified (GM) foods.

I suppose that the overall theme is something that translates into all policy and government making: one cannot crunch/disregard facts in order to perpetuate a a erroneous view.

One of the great features of modern thought is the reliance on evidence, otherwise known as the scientific method. This is what propelled technology to the heights we are seeing today. There is no shame in being wrong about an assumption; that only comes when ideas are held onto even though such ideas are shown to be patently wrong in the light of evidence.

So what of that policy making I was on about a paragraph or so back? Often I have written that political parties cannot seriously regard themselves as simply liberal or conservative. The Republicans, for example, haven't shred of conservatism left aside from some vague notions of tax cuts and 'limited government'. Yet, in the same breath many Republicans will talk of protecting social values. This is anomolous since the only way a political party may achieve its ends are through legislation (which means more government!). This small and highly generalised example is only to demonstrate that we are left with 'blue team-red team' politics. The parties identify themselves by what the other isn't.

So my link with the article - yes, right away. Holding on to principle is a admirable quality in many situations. However, this is not the case when dealing with public policy. One must be flexible enough to examine a conflicting view without the sole aim of destroying that counter-point. Where is comes to science, we only have the evidence to rely upon, nothing more.

If a person feels that a study seems flawed, then point out the flaws but at least constructively. We needn't go on a rampage against the producer(s) of reports. Fight evidence with evidence. Only in the realm of morality are principles to be truly admired. In science (and subsequent public policy), strict devotion to principle and ideals is self-defeating.

And with that, I am off to work out here in London. Good day all.

re: #58 walahi

The anti-GM movement has had more success in the UK than here in the US, I think. While the "organic" term as a label on items is chic, I've not seen a lot of active anti-GM protesting going on here, unlike in Europe.

What's a boffin?

re: #60 Cannadian Club Akbar

What's a boffin?

chiefly British : a scientific expert; especially : one involved in technological research

Oh, for the love of Pete. Some doctors group wants to put warning labels on hot dogs. Because kids choke on them. I have a great idea. Cut the fuckin' things up.

More good news:

80% Of Today's Delinquent Homeowners Will Lose Their Houses -- 6 Million In All

[Link: www.businessinsider.com...]

....Another startling assumption here: 80% of homeowners who are currently delinquent on their mortgages will end up losing their houses. Mortgage mods, meanwhile, will just delay the inevitable.

(From the perspective of the homeowners, it's probably best to get the inevitable out of the way sooner rather than later, before throwing more money down the negative-equity rat hole.)

re: #62 Cannadian Club Akbar

They suggest you cut them lengthwise. If you do it slowly you can hear them scream.

re: #64 RogueOne

They suggest you cut them lengthwise. If you do it slowly you can hear them scream.

I bet the same people who want to put warning labels on hot dogs will approve of a kid eating stringy celery or rhubarb.

re: #62 Cannadian Club Akbar

Oh, for the love of Pete. Some doctors group wants to put warning labels on hot dogs. Because kids choke on them. I have a great idea. Cut the fuckin' things up.

but ,, But ,,, BUT ,,that would put the onus on the parents ,,,, you know , all that personal responsibility and stuff!
How would they ever be able to brimg frivolous lawsuits!!

re: #66 sattv4u2

but ,, But ,,, BUT ,,that would put the onus on the parents ,,, you know , all that personal responsibility and stuff!
How would they ever be able to brimg frivolous lawsuits!!

We need to stand up against BIG HOT DOG!!

Name brands getting the heave-ho:

[Link: money.cnn.com...]

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Don't be shocked if you can't find your favorite salad dressing or mouthwash on your next trip to Wal-Mart.

Large retailers -- including Wal-Mart (WMT, Fortune 500), the world's biggest -- are wrestling with having too many types of brand-name products. At the same time, shoppers are buying less and looking for bargains.

Something else for people to consider, the brand name is just a name. Most off-brand products are made in the same factories, with the same materials and processes with just a different name slapped on the packaging.

For example, Wal-Mart recently removed Glad and Hefty-branded storage bags from shelves, replacing them with its own lower-priced Great Value brand, according to the parent companies of both products.

In the case of Hefty, parent Pactiv Corp. (PTV) told CNNMoney.com that Wal-Mart reversed its decision, and will return its products to shelves this spring -- after Pactiv agreed to make the Great Value bags that will sell alongside the competing Hefty product.

re: #67 Cannadian Club Akbar

We need to stand up against BIG HOT DOG!!

Isn't that what one of Gloria Alreds' clients is doing against Tiger Woods!?!?

re: #67 Cannadian Club Akbar

We need to stand up against BIG HOT DOG!!

Big Hot Dog hates children!

Apparently, the Vanderslooth (sp?) kid confessed to killing Natalie Holloway in Aruba. Thank God, now I can get a good nights sleep.

re: #71 Cannadian Club Akbar

Apparently, the Vanderslooth (sp?) kid confessed to killing Natalie Holloway in Aruba. Thank God, now I can get a good nights sleep.

I'll bet her parents still can't!

bbl

Ah, kids birthday parties. Pizza, whack-a-mole, and gunfire. So precious!!
[Link: www.toledoonthemove.com...]

re: #72 sattv4u2

although i feel great sympathy for her parents(losing a child under any circumstances is the worst thing a parent can go through)
i do have to ask who the fuck sends their kid to aruba without being there with them?(yeah i know it was a school trip...remember how those things were supervised when you went to school?)

re: #61 Cannadian Club Akbar

chiefly British : a scientific expert; especially : one involved in technological research

What we'd call an "egghead".

re: #62 Cannadian Club Akbar

Oh, for the love of Pete. Some doctors group wants to put warning labels on hot dogs. Because kids choke on them. I have a great idea. Cut the fuckin' things up.

Put warning label on everything edible: "Danger! May cause serious injury or death if inhaled instead of swallowed. Use special caution with infants and small children."

I'm waiting for mandatory notices on all envelopes about possible paper cuts.

re: #76 Cato the Elder

What we'd call an "egghead".

We have a few of those here. We should also add, long winded.

re: #78 Cannadian Club Akbar

i'd rather hang out with smart people(long winded or otherwise)than idiots....just sayin"

re: #79 Boondock St. Bender

i'd rather hang out with smart people(long winded or otherwise)than idiots...just sayin"

Oh, I agree. But this is a blog, not an actual oral conversation.

re: #80 Cannadian Club Akbar

true,my typing skills aren't up to much more than the quick comment,so i generally appreciate a good screed.(if only to marvel at folks quick typing ability...lol)

Brevitas verbositatem vincit.

re: #82 Cato the Elder

this is americer'use dalgum english!!!!!!eleventy!1

re: #81 Boondock St. Bender

true,my typing skills aren't up to much more than the quick comment,so i generally appreciate a good screed.(if only to marvel at folks quick typing ability...lol)

I will say this. If I need an answer or a resource to a question or subject, I'd rather ask here than Google it. We gots some smart people.

re: #84 Cannadian Club Akbar

yes we do.one of the reasons i love coming here!
(that Latin spouting guy up there is definitely one of them....lol)

Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

--Samuel Beckett

gotta bring the kids to school...brb

re: #84 Cannadian Club Akbar

I will say this. If I need an answer or a resource to a question or subject, I'd rather ask here than Google it. We gots some smart people.

WHAT is your quest?

re: #84 Cannadian Club Akbar

I will say this. If I need an answer or a resource to a question or subject, I'd rather ask here than Google it. We gots some smart people.

42, my friend. That is all ye need to know.

re: #88 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

WHAT is your quest?

What?

re: #89 Cato the Elder

42, my friend. That is all ye need to know.

What?

re: #82 Cato the Elder

Huh?

re: #89 Cato the Elder

Thanks, Deep Thought. Now, translate what you typed earlier... can't find a translation and don't speak that there Latin. Looks purdy tho.

re: #82 Cato the Elder

Brevitas verbositatem vincit.

Short words are better?

re: #62 Cannadian Club Akbar

Oh, for the love of Pete. Some doctors group wants to put warning labels on hot dogs. Because kids choke on them. I have a great idea. Cut the fuckin' things up.

The next thing ya know they will put warning labels on zippers.

re: #94 NJDhockeyfan

The next thing ya know they will put warning labels on zippers.

FRANKS AND BEANS!

re: #94 NJDhockeyfan

The next thing ya know they will put warning labels on zippers.

Too late for me. I've learned my lesson.

Brevity is the soul of wit?

re: #84 Cannadian Club Akbar

I will say this. If I need an answer or a resource to a question or subject, I'd rather ask here than Google it. We gots some smart people.

When I was having problems with computer weirdness the other night LGF saved me from going insane and helped me figure it out. Yes I could have googled but during the computer madness I could barely google. Just writing a post here was hard enough.

Small thing that it was it was really great to have somewhere to get some real time help.

re: #97 Taqyia2Me

Brevity is the soul of wit?

But, that was Shakespeare!! You can't translate backwards! Not fair!

re: #98 Jadespring

We do have a lot of computer geeks here. And me think that makes Charles look good. There are plenty of blogs to hang around on, but the LGF set up is quite nice. And for morons like me, user friendly.

re: #99 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

But, that was Shakespeare!! You can't translate backwards! Not fair!

Uh oh! I must be incorrect then...
Maybe:
short and sweet; hard to beat

Morning Lizards,
It's snowing in Texas! I do not like cold weather! Would you people up north please come get this stuff? Now?

re: #102 Cathypop

Morning Lizards,
It's snowing in Texas! I do not like cold weather! Would you people up north please come get this stuff? Now?

This has been quite the cold winter. Even in Florida. We have another cold front later this week.

re: #102 Cathypop

Morning Lizards,
It's snowing in Texas! I do not like cold weather! Would you people up north please come get this stuff? Now?

It's a Canadian plot I think. There was some sort of 'leaked' memo from a Canadian scientist about some major weather control techniques. I think we're testing on the US right now.

It does seem to be working. It's been unseasonably warm up here and we have maybe a quarter of the snow we usually have.

/// of course

FUCKING HARRY REID IS BLAMING DV ON THE ECONOMY.

re: #105 MandyManners

DV?

re: #54 Cannadian Club Akbar

Out of work? Are you a male? Well, Harry Reid says you are more likely to beat your woman.
[Link: thehill.com...]

re: #105 MandyManners

FUCKING HARRY REID IS BLAMING DV ON THE ECONOMY.

Yep.

re: #106 Jadespring

DV?

Domestic violence.

Low-life motherfucker.

re: #108 Cannadian Club Akbar

Thanks.

Gonna' stop now before I lose my temper.

re: #105 MandyManners

FUCKING HARRY REID IS BLAMING DV ON THE ECONOMY.

Harry Reid, former Senator walking, the perfect dbagger's dbagger.

What exactly did he say?

re: #111 MandyManners

Gonna' stop now before I lose my temper.

/ducks behind barricades just in case

re: #113 Jadespring

What exactly did he say?

Link in my #107.

re: #105 MandyManners

FUCKING HARRY REID IS BLAMING DV ON THE ECONOMY.

He's working on his poll numbers in NV. They aren't low enough.

re: #113 Jadespring

What exactly did he say?

re: #116 NJDhockeyfan

He's working on his poll numbers in NV. They aren't low enough.

If the TPers run a 3rd party candidate and Reid wins because of it, I will never go there.

re: #118 Cannadian Club Akbar

You mean it's not gonna stay in Vegas anymore?

If Reid is correct then I pity his wife. When he is kicked out of the Senate and is unemployed he will be very cranky.

No splitting hairs with Shebab fashion police

MOGADISHU (AFP) – Armed with assault rifles and scissors, the Shebab's religious police are imposing a reign of terror -- as well as crew cuts and bushy beards -- on Somalia's youth.

Wearing a T-shirt with a Western print, a pair of tight jeans and wavy gelled back hair, Ahmed Aydarus Abdi is a dedicated follower of fashion, but not the style advocated in the Shebab's hardline Wahhabi brand of Islam.

"I was stopped by Shebab gunmen who asked me questions about my haircut. They said the way I designed my hair was very silly," he said.

"Without waiting for my reply, one of the gunmen pulled out a pair of scissors and cut off huge locks on one side of my head. He was dealing with it like it was grass, not human hair," Abdi said.

As he recounted how he reluctantly had to finish the job himself, the 19-year-old cast worried glances around him, aware that his appearance was likely still offensive to the canons of Shebab sartorial elegance.

His friends encouraged him to comply.

"If he had attempted to defend his right to wear his hair the way he chooses, he would have been lashed in public, so we restrained our friend," 20-year-old Mohamoud Hassan said.

"He was humiliated and cried after we left the Shebab behind," he added.

U.S. Navy rescues Tanzanian ship, nabs 8 pirates

NAIROBI (Reuters) – A U.S. Navy warship prevented an attack on a Tanzanian ship and apprehended eight suspected pirates in the process, the U.S. Embassy in Tanzania said on Tuesday.

USS Farragut dispatched an SH-60B Seahawk helicopter to MV Barakaale 1 after it raised a distress call saying it was under attack from a gang on a skiff, the embassy said in a statement.

"The helicopter then stopped the ... skiff as it attempted to speed away, by firing warning shots across its bow," it said.

"A boarding team from USS Farragut boarded the vessel and the eight suspected pirates were taken aboard the Farragut."

re: #122 NJDhockeyfan

I hope they sunk the skiff.

re: #93 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Short words are better?

Brevity beats wordiness.

re: #92 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Thanks, Deep Thought. Now, translate what you typed earlier... can't find a translation and don't speak that there Latin. Looks purdy tho.

See my #124.

re: #120 Cathypop

If Reid is correct then I pity his wife. When he is kicked out of the Senate and is unemployed he will be very cranky.

He's not correct at least not in the sense of what he actually said. There are coralations between social and economic pressure with intensity of abuse of but those corelations do not = 'Men out of work 'tend' to become abusive' as some sort of trigger that changes something that was not already there before hand.

Abusers are abusers, full stop.

re: #94 NJDhockeyfan

The next thing ya know they will put warning labels on zippers.

Or zippers on hot dogs.

State: West Phila. doctor’s practice ‘deplorable’

State authorities last night suspended the medical license of a West Philadelphia doctor whose practice was raided last week by federal drug agents.

The suspension came after a hours-long search of Kermit B. Gosnell's practice, Women's Medical Society, at 3801 Lancaster Ave. in Powelton Village.

The suspension order says the conditions of the clinic were "deplorable and unsanitary."

It states: "There was blood on the floor, and parts of aborted fetuses were displayed in jars."

The order calls Gosnell's continued practice of medicine "an immediate and clear danger to the public health and safety."

Calls to Gosnell at his clinic were not answered last night.

"Concern Troll" my ass.
Good Morning LGF.

re: #129 Spare O'Lake

"Concern Troll" my ass.
Good Morning LGF.

Wait, what? Am I missing the fun?

re: #105 MandyManners

FUCKING HARRY REID IS BLAMING DV ON THE ECONOMY.

It is an indisputable fact that it's a factor.

re: #130 thedopefishlives

Wait, what? Am I missing the fun?

It's code for something...

re: #124 Cato the Elder

Brevity beats wordiness.

Better to be thought a fool and remain silent than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

UAE identifies four more over Mabhouh killing in Dubai

The United Arab Emirates (UAE) has identified four more users of European passports suspected of involvement in the killing of a Hamas leader in Dubai.

Mahmoud al-Mabhouh, one of the founders of Hamas' military wing, was found dead in a hotel on 20 January.

The killing has been widely blamed on the Israeli secret service. Israel has refused to confirm or deny involvement.

At least 15 people using European passports have been identified as suspects in the case.

The British Foreign Office has confirmed it has received information from the UAE about another two suspects carrying British passports, bringing the total number of British passports used to eight.

The Irish Foreign Ministry has said it too has been informed about two more suspects who used Irish passports with genuine numbers but fake names and photographs.

A total of five Irish identities were used.

re: #131 Cato the Elder

It is an indisputable fact that it's a factor.

I thought poor sandwich making skills were the cause.

re: #134 NJDhockeyfan

UAE identifies four more over Mabhouh killing in Dubai

These guys are gonna keep chasing their tails.

re: #136 Cannadian Club Akbar

These guys are gonna keep chasing their tails.

It'll be interesting to see how this shakes out.

Hey!!! Want your head to explode? I know it's early, but that just leaves more time for clean up!!! This pisses me right the fuck off. Just read the headline.
[Link: www.washingtonexaminer.com...]

re: #134 NJDhockeyfan

"Gail" was hot.

re: #139 laZardo

"Gail" was hot.

Someone here keeps calling for "Gail" to be Secretary of State. Heh.

re: #138 Cannadian Club Akbar

I read that last night, reason has a piece on it. If you look through their list of black people they'd like to erase from history it's pretty pathetic. I can't imagine the uproar if Slate/Reason or one of the other online mags did a list like this.

Our Mission is Finally Accomplished… Anyone Care?

I am not naive. I understand that there are individuals who opposed the war in Iraq from the very beginning and I believe their passion, although misguided at times, is rooted in a deep desire for peace. What always baffled me was the reaction they had to pro-victory veterans when we came home. As if we were some robotic arm of the Bush White House. It was foreign for them to understand why winning in Iraq was so important.

Our friends died in this cause. There is no honor in their death unless we complete the mission they died fighting.

Everyone is exposed to the death of someone close to them at least one time in their lives. Cancer, accidents, sometimes it is sudden or violent. Rarely do we see it. But when we do our lives are affected forever because of it. We live in a culture where there must be a reason for everything that goes wrong. Obama is responsible for job loss. Bush ruined the housing market. The tires that blew out on my car that I was driving was a manufacturing error and not due to the fact that I was driving on the sidewalk.

Someone is responsible for everything that goes wrong in America. It makes us feel better to know it wasn’t our fault.

The war in Iraq was no different. While many scurried to blame Donald Rumsfeld, General Franks or President Bush for losing the war in Iraq, they bet against the American fighting men and women to turn the tide of the war. “The mission” in Iraq was evil. The troops would never be maligned as they were in Vietnam.

I don’t begrudge these people. They simply will never get it. They are the type of people you need to protect in a society. They are innocent and naive.

It is the job of the warrior to hide them under the bed and tell them it will be okay, before we run off to combat the threat.

The ones that hold my contempt are those who, even today, know of the sacrifice made, the incredible progress gained and still will not acknowledge what was won on the ground in Iraq. They cheapen the sacrifice of how it was earned. Operation Iraqi Freedom is no more.

[snip]

re: #138 Cannadian Club Akbar

Goddammit.

re: #58 walahi

The people involved in GM foods and AGW are very, very different groups, for the most part.

re: #138 Cannadian Club Akbar

Hey!!! Want your head to explode? I know it's early, but that just leaves more time for clean up!!! This pisses me right the fuck off. Just read the headline.
[Link: www.washingtonexaminer.com...]

What I find disturbing is the "remove from history" but. Very Stalin-ish.

Good morning everyone.

re: #138 Cannadian Club Akbar

Hey!!! Want your head to explode? I know it's early, but that just leaves more time for clean up!!! This pisses me right the fuck off. Just read the headline.
[Link: www.washingtonexaminer.com...]

Hell, why stop at just Thomas... lump in two of our past Sec. of State that are black too... cuz we all know that no self-respecting black person would be conservative or *gasp* Republican....

Freakin' MORON.

re: #138 Cannadian Club Akbar

Hey!!! Want your head to explode? I know it's early, but that just leaves more time for clean up!!! This pisses me right the fuck off. Just read the headline.
[Link: www.washingtonexaminer.com...]

Clarence Thomas, The Mugabe of the Court
[Link: reason.com...]

re: #138 Cannadian Club Akbar

That's twisted. Celebrating African-American's achievements is a cool thing. Picking out specific African-Americans and saying that they let their 'race' down or something is stupid as shit.

I think Clarence Thomas is an awful justice and wish he was never on the supreme court. But it's not because he's a bad example of a black historical figure. It's because I disagree with most of his rulings.

re: #138 Cannadian Club Akbar

Hey!!! Want your head to explode? I know it's early, but that just leaves more time for clean up!!! This pisses me right the fuck off. Just read the headline.
[Link: www.washingtonexaminer.com...]

My head didn't really explode, but that's because there is a very large contingent of the "black rights" community that keeps pushing for government handouts. I don't want to paint with too broad a brush, but there is significant support out there for it. Clarence Thomas has always been singled out by this crowd to get drilled for his independent achievements.

re: #146 Ericus58

And to address YOUR point, the same group(s) that I specified in #149 are also vehemently against Condi Rice, for the same reason. The idea that a smart, savvy black woman could make her own way into being Secretary of State is absurd to them, and they hate her for her success.

re: #138 Cannadian Club Akbar

Fucking Joe Biden musta wrote it.

re: #148 Obdicut

Do ya like Ruth Bader Ginsberg?

re: #133 thedopefishlives

Better to be thought a fool and remain silent than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

After I'm dead, I would rather people ask why I have no monument than why I have one.

re: #149 thedopefishlives

Um, can you give an example of who is part of the 'black rights' community, and who keeps pushing for government handouts?

Would this qualify? I've been working with a local group who's trying to get compensation for the shipyard, mutions, and other workers who worked here in the Bay Area during WWII, making an enormous contribution to the war effort, and then were forced out of their jobs when white soldiers returned home and needed jobs. It turned a prosperous middle-class black community here in the Bay Area into an impoverished one, and the economic effects are still here today.

Not many of that generation are left alive, but some of their widows are, often the most stable matriarchs in the black community.

So is their seeking compensation for their unjust firing looking for a government handout?

re: #148 Obdicut

That's twisted. Celebrating African-American's achievements is a cool thing. Picking out specific African-Americans and saying that they let their 'race' down or something is stupid as shit.

I think Clarence Thomas is an awful justice and wish he was never on the supreme court. But it's not because he's a bad example of a black historical figure. It's because I disagree with most of his rulings.

What makes Clarence Thomas an awful justice?

re: #149 thedopefishlives

My head didn't really explode, but that's because there is a very large contingent of the "black rights" community that keeps pushing for government handouts. I don't want to paint with too broad a brush, but there is significant support out there for it. Clarence Thomas has always been singled out by this crowd to get drilled for his independent achievements.

His independent achievements were made possible by affirmative action. Fact.

re: #154 Obdicut

I mean people who think the government is obligated to give them jobs because they're black. Black nationalists are the most common types of people to fall into this category.

re: #152 Cannadian Club Akbar

Better than Thomas? Yes. Especially on abortion rights and litigation rights.

But close to my ideal? Not really.

Regardless your thoughts on Clarence Thomas, I think comparing him to Idi Amin and Robert Mugabe shows complete ignorance.

re: #155 NJDhockeyfan

Consistent ruling in favor of authoritarianism and against individual citizen's liberty. Favoring groups and organizations over individuals.

re: #159 Cannadian Club Akbar

Regardless your thoughts on Clarence Thomas, I think comparing him to Idi Amin and Robert Mugabe shows complete ignorance.

Agreed. They were/are leaders. Thomas is a follower.

re: #157 thedopefishlives

I mean people who think the government is obligated to give them jobs because they're black. Black nationalists are the most common types of people to fall into this category.

Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton come to mind.

re: #148 Obdicut

He's the best justice on the court. The only one with actual libertarian views. He was the only correct vote on the court in both Gonzalez vs Reich and the Kelo decisions.

re: #162 NJDhockeyfan

Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton come to mind.

That's precisely the sort of crowd to which I refer. They do have a rather significant following, even though they're both buffoons. Unfortunately, they seem to have corrupted the remains of the civil rights movement and twisted it into a "give me free stuff 'cuz I'm black" campaign.

re: #161 Cato the Elder

Agreed. They were/are leaders. Thomas is a follower.

Who does Thomas follow when making a SC decision?

re: #159 Cannadian Club Akbar

Well, yeah. Stupid as shit, likely to inflame, and insidiously racist, given that the comparisons are to dictators of mostly-black countries, and Thomas is a Supreme Court justice in a much more mixed society. I can see someone calling Adi a disgrace to his people. Clarence Thomas was fairly appointed to the Supreme Court and fairly confirmed, and is perfectly well-qualified to sit on the Court.

re: #160 Obdicut

Consistent ruling in favor of authoritarianism and against individual citizen's liberty. Favoring groups and organizations over individuals.

Name a court member who votes more consistently than thomas regarding individual rights and limiting federal authority. Name one justice that has consistently come down against the federal commerce clause abuses more fervently than Thomas. Thomas is easily the favorite justice amongst libertarians.

re: #164 thedopefishlives

That's precisely the sort of crowd to which I refer. They do have a rather significant following, even though they're both buffoons. Unfortunately, they seem to have corrupted the remains of the civil rights movement and twisted it into a "give me free stuff 'cuz I'm black" campaign.

They are both race-baiting shakedown artists and for some reason are considered leaders in the black community.

re: #165 Cannadian Club Akbar

Who does Thomas follow when making a SC decision?

Whomever is most conservative (read: reactionary) that particular day. Then he adds a note about how the decision wasn't reactionary enough.

re: #169 Cato the Elder

Whomever is most conservative (read: reactionary) that particular day. Then he adds a note about how the decision wasn't reactionary enough.

So, Scalia?

re: #163 RogueOne

He is in way, shape, or form a libertarian. He's great on the first amendment, but terrible on the fourth.

re: #170 Cannadian Club Akbar

Roberts.

/

re: #171 Obdicut

He's the only member of the court that believes the power of the federal government has limitations. The rest go back and forth depending on their ideology but he's the only consistent voice we have. Down with the Man!

re: #167 RogueOne

That he's a favorite justice among libertarians doesn't mean that he's a libertarian. Anyway, I'm not trying to get into an argument about what I don't like about Thomas, and I shouldn't have said anything critical in the first place, given this stupid attack on him.

All I meant to convey was even though I disagree with Thomas' politics, comparing him to dictators is stupid as shit. He's a Supreme Court Justice who got into his seat without any shenanigans whatsoever, and any talk of 'removing him from history' is asinine, not to mention smacking of authoritarian revision of history.

re: #174 Obdicut

Thomas's. Not Thomas'.

re: #173 RogueOne

I'm surprised to hear you say that, given his record on favoring police over citizens almost exclusively. But again: He's a Supreme Court Justice, he got there appropriately, he went through the hell of Senate confirmations and public scrutiny, and comparing him to actual murders and brutal tyrants is eye-rollingly idiotic. I also think that Thomas has honest intentions, unlike those he's being compared to.

re: #175 Cato the Elder

Apologies, Cato. My orthographic precision has gone to fucking shit lately. Sorry for the winces.

re: #134 NJDhockeyfan

At least 15 people using European passports have been identified as suspects in the case.

Next time Mossad needs to borrow passports, I volunteer mine. It would be an honor.

SNOW!!!! IN AUSTIN!!!!

re: #178 cliffster

SNOW!!! IN AUSTIN!!!

Dogs and cats, living together!

re: #179 Mad Al-Jaffee

Dogs and cats, living together!

Oh look! A Scotch-Korean!

re: #178 cliffster

ONLY IN AMERICUH.

re: #174 Obdicut

Too late, you've already been drawn in.

Tick...tock...tick...tock...

Editors of Arab Dailies Assess: A War between Iran and the West Is Imminent

re: #179 Mad Al-Jaffee

Mass....Hysteria...

re: #181 laZardo

ONLY IN AMERICUH.

Well, given that Texas is in fact, in America, then snow in Texas can indeed only happen in America... !

re: #174 Obdicut

That he's a favorite justice among libertarians doesn't mean that he's a libertarian. Anyway, I'm not trying to get into an argument about what I don't like about Thomas, and I shouldn't have said anything critical in the first place, given this stupid attack on him.

All I meant to convey was even though I disagree with Thomas' politics, comparing him to dictators is stupid as shit. He's a Supreme Court Justice who got into his seat without any shenanigans whatsoever, and any talk of 'removing him from history' is asinine, not to mention smacking of authoritarian revision of history.

I like Thomas; I've updinged you because I appreciate your lack of Clarence Thomas Derangement Syndrome.

I wish the occasional criticism of Obama in these threads wasn't seen as ODS, as it almost always seems to be.

re: #185 cliffster

You guys didn't secede yet? Thought it was in the works...

re: #185 cliffster

Well, given that Texas is in fact, in America, then snow in Texas can indeed only happen in America... !

I was gonna say that, but I couldn't come up with a good enough, smart ass answer. Kudos!!

re: #188 Cannadian Club Akbar

I was gonna say that, but I couldn't come up with a good enough, smart ass answer. Kudos!!

I'm a morning person, so I was on it.

L.A. school district spent millions firing just seven teachers; paid $50,000 bribes to dozens more

...In the past decade, LAUSD officials spent $3.5 million trying to fire just seven of the district's 33,000 teachers for poor classroom performance — and only four were fired, during legal struggles that wore on, on average, for five years each. Two of the three others were paid large settlements, and one was reinstated. The average cost of each battle is $500,000.

During our investigation, in which we obtained hundreds of documents using the California Public Records Act, we also discovered that 32 underperforming teachers were initially recommended for firing, but then secretly paid $50,000 by the district, on average, to leave without a fight. Moreover, 66 unnamed teachers are being continually recycled through a costly mentoring and retraining program but failing to improve, and another 400 anonymous teachers have been ordered to attend the retraining.

re: #186 reine.de.tout

I regularly criticize Obama and get away with it, because I'm seen as being generally 'leftist', even though I think such divisions are silly.

Imagine the outrage, imagine the fucking shitstorm if anyone in an article compared Obama to any of these people? I know some morons on the fringes probably have, but can you imagine if someone talked about wanting to erase Obama from history?

Here comes the next bubble – carbon trading

Forget CDOs and other inventions of the great credit bubble. That’s all old hat. Investment bankers are moving on to an area of securities trading that is potentially even more lucrative, and what’s more, even has a social value – saving the planet. Or supposedly so, anyway. I’ve long had my suspicions about the great carbon trading bubble, and I’ve had them pretty much confirmed by a brilliant article which has been drawn to my attention by one Mark Schapiro in Harper’s magazine.

According to Mr Schapiro, carbon trading is now the fastest growing commodities market on earth. Since Kyoto signatories bought in to the cap and trade concept in 2005, there have been more than $300bn carbon transactions, prompting several investment banks, including Goldman Sachs and Barclays, to set up their own carbon trading desks. But that’s just the start. If President Obama and his supporters can institute a cap-and-trade system in the United States – and that’s a big if for this increasingly marooned presidency – demand could explode into a $2 to $3 trillion market.

And here’s the great thing about it. Unlike traditional commodities markets, which will eventually involve delivery to someone in physical form, the carbon market is based on lack of delivery of an invisible substance to no-one. Since the market revolves around creating carbon credits, or finding carbon reduction projects whose benefits can then be sold to those with a surplus of emissions, it is entirely intangible.

re: #191 Obdicut

I regularly criticize Obama and get away with it, because I'm seen as being generally 'leftist', even though I think such divisions are silly.

Imagine the outrage, imagine the fucking shitstorm if anyone in an article compared Obama to any of these people? I know some morons on the fringes probably have, but can you imagine if someone talked about wanting to erase Obama from history?

I'm liking you a lot!
Glad you're here.

re: #192 NJDhockeyfan

Here comes the next bubble – carbon trading

The whole notion of a "carbon market" is the definition of voodoo economics.

re: #40 Conservative Moonbat

I'll report this and try and get it deleted because you can download the tracks off my PC from here:

This is how I've got it right now:

[Link: ve.static.net...]

Dude...I haven't listened to the Butthole Surfers in years...mind if I pull a couple songs?

re: #194 Cato the Elder

It's like people paying for "carbon offsets" to ease their guilt about driving and flying. Most of those so-called offsets are just scams.

re: #195 darthstar

Dude...I haven't listened to the Butthole Surfers in years...mind if I pull a couple songs?

You like the Butthole Surfers? No wonder we get along so well.

re: #129 Spare O'Lake

"Concern Troll" my ass.
Good Morning LGF.

*smooch*

re: #195 darthstar

Dude...I haven't listened to the Butthole Surfers in years...mind if I pull a couple songs?

We're all in love with dying. And we're doing it in Texas.

re: #196 Cato the Elder

It's rent-seeking again. And promoting such things as cap-and-trade takes force away from driving the real changes that we need.

I do think a lot of the people promoting them honestly do think that they will do good, and just haven't done the math.

I hate people who haven't done the math.

re: #131 Cato the Elder

It is an indisputable fact that it's a factor.

It is an indisputable fact that you are full of shit on this.

re: #194 Cato the Elder

Fictitious Capital. Fictitious income. Exactly what got us in this jam.

re: #200 Obdicut

I'm the only person in my immediate family that apparently enjoyed AND passed math class in school.

/i'm so ashamed. ;_;

re: #202 Rightwingconspirator

Fictitious Capital. Fictitious income. Exactly what got us in this jam.

Did someone say "jam"?

I like strawberry jam on my toast.

Nearly 20 percent of U.S. workers underemployed

Nearly 20 percent of the U.S. workforce lacked adequate employment in January and struggled to make ends meet with reduced resources and bleak job prospects, according to a Gallup poll released on Tuesday.

In findings that appear to paint a darker employment picture than official U.S. data, Gallup estimated that about 30 million Americans are underemployed, meaning either jobless or able to find only part-time work.

Underemployed people spent 36 percent less on household purchases than their fully employed neighbors in January, while six out of 10 were not hopeful about their chances of finding adequate work in the coming month, the poll said.

re: #199 cliffster

We're all in love with dying. And we're doing it in Texas.

I'm toasty warm and stuck at home in Texas. Just enjoyed a cheese omelet so I refuse to die right now

re: #205 NJDhockeyfan

Nearly 20 percent of U.S. workers underemployed

It's OK!! We gots a job bill!!!

re: #197 Cannadian Club Akbar

You like the Butthole Surfers? No wonder we get along so well.

Before I found the Grateful Dead I was really into country music. Before that, I was into 80s club bands (Plimsouls, Red Hot Chili Peppers--yes, they were a club band when I saw them, etc.). Before that, I was a total wannabe punk...the only one in the small town I grew up in, as the looks I got when I shaved the side of my head were pretty severe.

re: #131 Cato the Elder

Disputable until we see a good study, or at least far better evidence than "Harry says so".

Maybe seeing Harry talk crap incites violent acts of sheer frustration. ;)

re: #204 MandyManners

Did someone say "jam"?

I like strawberry jam on my toast.

Now you're talking preserves.

re: #201 MandyManners

It is an indisputable fact that you are full of shit on this.

You now what causes domestic violence? People abusing their spouse.

re: #201 MandyManners

It is an indisputable fact that you are full of shit on this.

Right. Because unemployment and poverty have nothing to do with people getting cranky and beating up their spouses. They would do that even if they won the lottery that day.

Ignore all sociological studies and carry on with your bullshit.

re: #210 darthstar

Now you're talking preserves.

Aw, can it!

re: #208 darthstar

Before I found the Grateful Dead I was really into country music. Before that, I was into 80s club bands (Plimsouls, Red Hot Chili Peppers--yes, they were a club band when I saw them, etc.). Before that, I was a total wannabe punk...the only one in the small town I grew up in, as the looks I got when I shaved the side of my head were pretty severe.

I ran lights for a band years ago. Down the way (warehouses for practicing) was a punk band. There was a girl with one side of her head shaved, the other side was purple. She was hot.

re: #213 Mad Al-Jaffee

Aw, can it!

Sorry...didn't mean to jar you.

re: #122 NJDhockeyfan

U.S. Navy rescues Tanzanian ship, nabs 8 pirates

One of my sister squadrons' helos, same one I fly. Go LAMPS!!!

re: #213 Mad Al-Jaffee

Aw, can it!

I've been noticing - you are one of the foremost inciters of pun runs around here. You should be ashamed.

Happy Birthday, Peter Fonda!

re: #210 darthstar

Now you're talking preserves.

Don't fuck with me today, Darthstar.

Thank you.

re: #211 cliffster

You now what causes domestic violence? People abusing their spouse.

IT'S BUSH'S FAULT.

re: #216 rwdflynavy

One of my sister squadrons' helos, same one I fly. Go LAMPS!!!

Question: Would the boarding crew sink the skiff after taking the pirates into custody?

Man, my knickers are in a twist.

A prominent senator is blaming something other than an abuser for DV.

The rage I feel is indescribable.

re: #217 cliffster

I've been noticing - you are one of the foremost inciters of pun runs around here. You should be ashamed.

I would say smuck(ers) you, but that would be rude.

re: #186 reine.de.tout

You'd probably see a lot more participation from independents and even lefties if what we being criticized were policy issues and such. The overwhelming tone of Obama criticism on here, though, seems to be about him being a narcissist or being elite and garbage like that.

There are a number of Obama decisions/issues on which I do not agree or approve of but the last thing I'm going to do is jump on the bandwagon when an overwhelming tone of ODS appears in a comment.

re: #222 MandyManners

Man, my knickers are in a twist.

A prominent senator is blaming something other than an abuser for DV.

The rage I feel is indescribable.

The blame game mentality, scaled up to a ridiculous level.

re: #219 MandyManners

Little Miss Mary Fucking Marmalade has a ring to it though.

/braces

Whatever its merits, if there's going to be a carbon bubble, I'm going to try and get in on it early and make some money.

I missed out on the dot-coms and the housing BS, but dammit, even if I think it's horseshit, making butt-tons of money on a scam that gives me the sanctified odor of one who cares about the planet is just too good an opportunity to ignore.

Then I can buy that beachfront property in the Smokey Mountains when it all fails miserably and AGW swamps Baltimore anyway. And laugh.

If a Republican had said that, it'd be the talk of the blogosphere today.

How much you wanna' bet it'll not make even a fucking blip?

re: #224 Locker

I also believe President Obama get props here when he deserves it. (nuke plants, killing Somali pirates, etc.)

re: #219 MandyManners

Don't fuck with me today, Darthstar.

Thank you.

Good morning to you too, Ms Mandy. And no, I certainly wouldn't dream of fucking with you on such a beautiful day.

re: #226 laZardo

Little Miss Mary Fucking Marmalade has a ring to it though.

/braces

*smooch*

re: #222 MandyManners

Man, my knickers are in a twist.

A prominent senator is blaming something other than an abuser for DV.

The rage I feel is indescribable.

Which prominent senator? I'll call the fucker's office myself.

re: #230 darthstar

Good morning to you too, Ms Mandy. And no, I certainly wouldn't dream of fucking with you on such a beautiful day.

*sigh*

re: #227 Cato the Elder

Hey, while you're at it, how about buying up a bunch of beachfront property along the California/Nevada border, Mr. Luthor. //// :)

re: #222 MandyManners

Man, my knickers are in a twist.

A prominent senator is blaming something other than an abuser for DV.

The rage I feel is indescribable.

There's nothing new about indescribable rage on your part. That's when you revert to four-letter Anglo-Saxon words.

If you don't think socio-economic factors play a role in abuse, you're a fool.

re: #232 darthstar

Which prominent senator? I'll call the fucker's office myself.

HARRY REID.

re: #212 Cato the Elder

Right. Because unemployment and poverty have nothing to do with people getting cranky and beating up their spouses. They would do that even if they won the lottery that day.

Ignore all sociological studies and carry on with your bullshit.

Maybe if you spent some time in a battered women's shelter, you would understand how infuriating it can be to hear people making excuses for abusers. Especially high-profile public figures.

re: #235 Cato the Elder

There's nothing new about indescribable rage on your part. That's when you revert to four-letter Anglo-Saxon words.

If you don't think socio-economic factors play a role in abuse, you're a fool.

If you don't think that's a cheap cop-out for guys who are predisposed to be violent when things don't go their way, you're a fool.

CCA in No. 54 has it.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

re: #231 MandyManners

*smooch*

re: #228 MandyManners

If a Republican had said that, it'd be the talk of the blogosphere today.

How much you wanna' bet it'll not make even a fucking blip?

Probably not, he/she would just say "I was joking and you can all forget about it now."

re: #235 Cato the Elder

Fuck you, you goddamned misogynist.

re: #237 cliffster

Maybe if you spent some time in a battered women's shelter, you would understand how infuriating it can be to hear people making excuses for abusers. Especially high-profile public figures.

Nobody's making excuses, least of all me. But if you don't think circumstances play a role, you're an idiot.

re: #236 MandyManners

HARRY REID.

My guess is he's got my number blocked by now, but sure...another call or email is certainly in order.

re: #242 MandyManners

Fuck you, you goddamned misogynist.

That's right, bring out the "M" word.

The last resort of a woman with no argument.

re: #243 Cato the Elder

Nobody's making excuses, least of all me. But if you don't think circumstances play a role, you're an idiot.

You can call "circumstances" to justify everything. My dad beat me, so that's why I beat my wife. It's all my dad's fault...

re: #242 MandyManners

Fuck you, you goddamned misogynist.

It's interesting that it's perfectly fine for you to act however you want but your judgments of others are some of the most harsh I've seen on here. You really think you are so specially that everyone has to get out of your way when you are in a bad mood? Hilarious.

I'm Rick James, bitch!!
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Why is it that every time that AG Holder opens his mouth, he says something stupid and insulting the intelligence of all those around him? His latest is that the Zazi plea deal somehow inures benefits to trying KSM in federal court. That's even though they were two wholly different situations, starting with how both men came into US custody.

Zazi was arrested by the NYPD and the JTTF. He was Mirandized. Different levels of evidence gathered. Meanwhile, KSM was held incommunicado for years and harsh interrogation methods were used, and despite all that, Holder decided to short circuit the tribunal system designed to deal with scum like KSM (who actually confessed to plotting and planning the 9/11 attacks among other things) by plucking him from the tribunal system to try him in federal court. KSM was planning a guilty plea before the military tribunal. The very fact that Holder thinks that a federal court could get plea deals is undermined by the fact that KSM sought the same from the tribunal.

re: #247 Locker

Bite me.

Meet Giant George, the world's tallest dog.

re: #236 MandyManners

Linky:
[Link: www.politico.com...]

What a piece of garbage. Economics is the reason for domestic violence? Nope - it's the fact that person A decides to whack person B and engages in an abusive relationship.

Wowza. Progs lining up to defend Harry Reid and the notion that money is to blame for DV.

re: #252 lawhawk

Linky:
[Link: www.politico.com...]

What a piece of garbage. Economics is the reason for domestic violence? Nope - it's the fact that person A decides to whack person B and engages in an abusive relationship.

*smooch*

TPC: Obama's Tax Proposals Yield $4.9 Trillion (Not the Claimed $1.1 Trillion) Shortfall

The Tax Policy Center has released a detailed 49-page analysis of the key tax proposals in President Obama’s 2011 budget:

Separate discussions below describe each of the proposals including current law, proposed changes, and, when appropriate, the distributional effects. ...

The budget assumes a baseline in which the 2001-2003 tax cuts are permanent (including the estate tax at its 2009 level), the exemption in the alternative minimum tax (AMT) is permanently indexed for inflation from its 2009 level, and that temporary expansions of refundability of the child tax credit and of the earned income credit are permanent. Those provisions would reduce revenues by $3.8 trillion over the 2010-2020 period. TPC’s analysis measures the impact of the tax proposals not against the administration baseline but rather against a current law baseline that assumes the 2001-2003 tax cuts expire as scheduled in 2011 and that the AMT exemption maintains its permanent level. Against that baseline, the administration’s tax proposals would cause much greater revenue losses than official budget estimates show [$4.9 trillion v. $1.1 trillion].

That's quite a difference...$3.8 trillion...fuck!

I'm outta' here before I post something that will get my Conservative ass banned.

re: #247 Locker

Why are you interjecting into an issue between those two with your snarky comment? just use your dinger and move on, don't be a troll.

re: #248 Cannadian Club Akbar

I'm Rick James, bitch!!
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Cocaineizahelluvadrug.

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