Each minute bursts in the burning room,
The great globe reels in the solar fire,
Spinning the trivial and unique away.
(How all things flash! How all things flare!)
What am I now that I was then?
May memory restore again and again
The smallest color of the smallest day:
Time is the school in which we learn,
Time is the fire in which we burn.
— Delmore Schwartz, “Calmly We Walk Through This April’s Day”
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jamesfirecat Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:13:55pm |
So anyone else looking forward to watching the CSPAN debate on healthcare?
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Obdicut Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:14:54pm |
Hey, I asked this in the last thread, but I’ll re-ask it here:
A friend of mine is having difficulty adjusting to civilian life after having been a sniper in the Army. Lizards, do you know, outside of what the Army already provides, of good resources for ex-military people having difficulty adjusting to civilian life? I don’t mean, like, direct therapy or anything, but more someone who can figure out some career path or something. He did okay for awhile as a trainer for police departments, but he doesn’t like it, for some reason he can’t even express.
He needs someone who knows what he’s going through, I guess, and help him figure out a next step from here.
Any advice gladly taken.
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iceweasel Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:15:30pm |
re: #1 jamesfirecat
So anyone else looking forward to watching the CSPAN debate on healthcare?
Sure am! Because that’s how I roll.
Looking forward to the wailing and gnashing of teeth after, too. Some of it may even be my own.
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windsagio Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:17:43pm |
re: #3 Obdicut
I’ll pimp my dad’s company again then :p
[Link: www.verticalpathrecruiting.com…]
they have relationships with other companies, so it might be a good resource.
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jamesfirecat Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:17:47pm |
re: #4 iceweasel
Sure am! Because that’s how I roll.
Looking forward to the wailing and gnashing of teeth after, too. Some of it may even be my own.
I’m sure some of it will be my own. But like I said I find some solace in my memory of how the Q&A played out.
Lets see O can “Bar-rock” their world a second time…
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iceweasel Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:17:48pm |
re: #3 Obdicut
Obdi, I don’t know, but I’ll ask some friends/family who were in the military. One of them still works in the (non VA) health system, so she might be a good source.
I’ll let you know anything I find out— lots of lizards here will have info. (Hoops, I bet, others too).
Best of luck to you and your friend.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:18:07pm |
While we’re discussing religion: Newsweek has a really interesting article this week about an archaeological dig in Turkey, about eleven thousand years old. It’s a giant, very elaborate worship complex, and the guy digging it out has a hypothesis that rather than agriculture and cities giving rise to formal religion, this indicates that hunter-gatherers drew together to worship, and that this in turn gave rise to agriculture et al.
Very neat stuff, regardless of whether you buy his concept or not.
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jamesfirecat Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:20:01pm |
re: #8 SanFranciscoZionist
While we’re discussing religion: Newsweek has a really interesting article this week about an archaeological dig in Turkey, about eleven thousand years old. It’s a giant, very elaborate worship complex, and the guy digging it out has a hypothesis that rather than agriculture and cities giving rise to formal religion, this indicates that hunter-gatherers drew together to worship, and that this in turn gave rise to agriculture et al.
Very neat stuff, regardless of whether you buy his concept or not.
Weren’t some people suppose to be looking Noah’s Ark around there?
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Obdicut Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:20:02pm |
re: #5 windsagio
Thanks. Do you know, then, if it’s true that snipers are kind of pariahs even amongst military guys, or is that just civilian perception?
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:21:00pm |
re: #8 SanFranciscoZionist
While we’re discussing religion: Newsweek has a really interesting article this week about an archaeological dig in Turkey, about eleven thousand years old. It’s a giant, very elaborate worship complex, and the guy digging it out has a hypothesis that rather than agriculture and cities giving rise to formal religion, this indicates that hunter-gatherers drew together to worship, and that this in turn gave rise to agriculture et al.
Very neat stuff, regardless of whether you buy his concept or not.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:21:01pm |
re: #1 jamesfirecat
So anyone else looking forward to watching the CSPAN debate on healthcare?
I’m not expecting much but it might be interesting. I suspect the GOP isn’t going to get pwnded this time, they know what to expect this time.
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freetoken Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:21:11pm |
re: #8 SanFranciscoZionist
There have been several publications/articles over the past couple of years about excavations in southern Turkey, on sites that appear to be for religious purposes before what has traditionally been thought of as cities.
Agree that it is fascinating, thanks for bringing it to attention… I’ll go dig it up.
From previous articles it appears as if some of the symbolic figures include lions, which would make lots of sense given they would have been the apex predators in that region (before modern man took over that role.)
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windsagio Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:21:11pm |
re: #11 Obdicut
You know, I have no idea. I know they tend to have severe ptsd problems once they get out, but in service…? Not sure.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:21:51pm |
re: #10 jamesfirecat
Weren’t some people suppose to be looking Noah’s Ark around there?
I thought that was in Armenia, but what do I know? You could very well be right.
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Political Atheist Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:22:10pm |
re: #1 jamesfirecat
Yeah, actually. Lets see how this goes.
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freetoken Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:22:30pm |
re: #12 SanFranciscoZionist
I seem to recall Gobekli being in some recent TV science/archeology specials, though I can’t recall exactly where.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:23:12pm |
re: #10 jamesfirecat
Weren’t some people suppose to be looking Noah’s Ark around there?
If the Ark existed, you could see it from orbit with the naked eye. It’d be easier to spot than the Great Wall of China.
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jaunte Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:24:45pm |
re: #3 Obdicut
These people have a program; contact numbers at the link:
The American Sniper Association SPOTTER program
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HoosierHoops Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:24:48pm |
re: #3 Obdicut
Hey, I asked this in the last thread, but I’ll re-ask it here:
A friend of mine is having difficulty adjusting to civilian life after having been a sniper in the Army. Lizards, do you know, outside of what the Army already provides, of good resources for ex-military people having difficulty adjusting to civilian life? I don’t mean, like, direct therapy or anything, but more someone who can figure out some career path or something. He did okay for awhile as a trainer for police departments, but he doesn’t like it, for some reason he can’t even express.
He needs someone who knows what he’s going through, I guess, and help him figure out a next step from here.
Any advice gladly taken.
This post pains me…
I have seen so much of this posted.. Veterans coming home messed up..
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:25:10pm |
re: #11 Obdicut
Thanks. Do you know, then, if it’s true that snipers are kind of pariahs even amongst military guys, or is that just civilian perception?
It’s complicated. Snipers are appreciated and respected for the work they do. However, the way they kill deliberately often makes other soldiers reluctant to associate with them. What is true is that snipers are almost never taken prisoner, even in our current wars. They are normally shot out of hand, not given any chance to surrender.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:26:43pm |
I am exhausted. See you in a few hours. Y’all play nice.
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Stanghazi Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:27:01pm |
re: #1 jamesfirecat
So anyone else looking forward to watching the CSPAN debate on healthcare?
Hell, I don’t recall anything like this happening before, or if it did I wasn’t interested, so YES, I’m looking forward to it.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:27:49pm |
re: #18 freetoken
I seem to recall Gobekli being in some recent TV science/archeology specials, though I can’t recall exactly where.
National Geo for one, about a year ago, this weeks Newsweek has an article too.
Very strange place. Most of the “art” and artifacts seem very “out of place.” for the time period that they believe it was settled (I believe 13000bce-10000bce).
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Obdicut Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:28:29pm |
re: #20 jaunte
Thanks! That looks to be exactly what he needs. Thanks so much.
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Obdicut Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:29:57pm |
re: #21 HoosierHoops
Sorry to make you sad, Hoops. He’s a great man. Looks just like Sandy Koufax, too. He did his family and friends proud with his service. He’ll find his way, he’s just a little strained right now.
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jamesfirecat Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:30:47pm |
By the way, you guys want to notice something interesting? I think Charles is watching the Daily Show a lot more than he used to…
There was ONE post about it in 2008 (maybe) eight posts about it in all of 2009, and in only two months of 2010 we’ve already have 6 posts about it….
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:30:53pm |
I’ve got to go. I’m testifying in civil case tomorrow, so I may not be back till tomorrow evening. Play nice, everylizard.
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windsagio Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:31:44pm |
heh, every person who signs off says ‘play nice’ >>
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Political Atheist Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:31:49pm |
re: #32 Dark_Falcon
Be cool, sleep well my friend.
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laZardo Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:31:55pm |
re: #32 Dark_Falcon
Remember, you saw Gennoli burying the body and that dead fish was sent from him.
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jaunte Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:32:32pm |
I’m off too. Goodnight all, time for some Chambers Brothers.
Time Has Come Today
| 37 |
Political Atheist Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:33:24pm |
Usually these overnight threads start after I’m in bed.
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Obdicut Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:33:49pm |
This one’s for you, HoosierHoops:
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:34:21pm |
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Obdicut Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:34:30pm |
re: #37 Rightwingconspirator
Well, uh, Charles does have a fiancee now.
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HoosierHoops Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:35:06pm |
re: #37 Rightwingconspirator
Usually these overnight threads start after I’m in bed.
Me too! the Olympics are on tonight….The best 2 weeks of winter!
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Political Atheist Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:35:12pm |
re: #40 Obdicut
I had not heard! Seriously?
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Obdicut Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:37:18pm |
re: #42 Rightwingconspirator
I am 99.76% sure. Someone back me up and reassure me I’m not going crazy.
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jamesfirecat Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:38:32pm |
re: #44 iceweasel
Sure does!
Mentioned in the NYT interview.
Didn’t they also mention that she might secretly be a member of the Trilateral Comission hired to seduce Charles away from the right wing?
Or was that a different interview?
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Political Atheist Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:39:42pm |
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albusteve Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:40:27pm |
| 48 |
Political Atheist Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:41:26pm |
re: #47 albusteve
My very progressive friend calls this Bush’s 3rd term. (Fail, by his measures)
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Racer X Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:41:56pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:42:21pm |
re: #47 albusteve
he tapped some pirates…so I give him a D
And plenty of terrorists. Could you see your way into at least giving him a D+?
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Obdicut Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:43:01pm |
re: #47 albusteve
I see the polls are getting swamped by Fs. Probably the Paulians.
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iceweasel Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:43:28pm |
Yeah, my guess is not to expect CJ to update us on his personal life, and who the hell can blame him, with the various stalking freaks. (Don’t forget that since-convicted stalker neoNazi Bill White targeted CJ and his family at one point.)
If I were him I’d keep all mention of private matters off, off, off the blog.
But, NYT interview said he was engaged, various of us congratulated him there, and that’s all I know.
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Stanghazi Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:43:29pm |
re: #45 jamesfirecat
Didn’t they also mention that she might secretly be a member of the Trilateral Comission hired to seduce Charles away from the right wing?
Or was that a different interview?
Mata Hari was who she didn’t appear to be, iirc.
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jamesfirecat Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:43:31pm |
re: #51 Obdicut
I see the polls are getting swamped by Fs. Probably the Paulians.
Internet polls are a fickle mistress.
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albusteve Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:44:03pm |
re: #48 Rightwingconspirator
My very progressive friend calls this Bush’s 3rd term. (Fail, by his measures)
the pirate thing was a no brainer…so if he’s judged by brainers, he’s failed
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jamesfirecat Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:44:07pm |
re: #53 Stanley Sea
Mata Hari was who she didn’t appear to be, iirc.
Well they said that she didn’t seem to be those things but there was about a 1% chance she might be….
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sngnsgt Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:44:43pm |
Alright, alright, already, I’m trying Firefox for the first time.
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Nervous Norvous Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:45:03pm |
re: #56 albusteve
the pirate thing was a no brainer…so if he’s judged by brainers, he’s failed
Actually, he’s mostly being judged by no brainers so far, more interested in labeling him a socialist than actually discussing substantive policy issues.
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albusteve Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:45:05pm |
re: #51 Obdicut
I see the polls are getting swamped by Fs. Probably the Paulians.
there are hordes of us with BDS….ha!
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windsagio Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:45:27pm |
re: #51 Obdicut
It should be a surprise to no one that the results of that poll will be utter crap >
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Racer X Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:45:53pm |
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albusteve Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:45:56pm |
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windsagio Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:45:57pm |
re: #59 PT Barnum
A diss AND a pun! You’re in fine form tonight!
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Nervous Norvous Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:46:10pm |
re: #61 windsagio
It should be a surprise to no one that the results of that poll will be utter crap >
internet polls are self selecting for the extremes, methinks.
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The Sanity Inspector Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:46:13pm |
re: #58 sngnsgt
Alright, alright, already, I’m trying Firefox for the first time.
Doing fine so far!
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albusteve Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:46:31pm |
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jamesfirecat Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:46:43pm |
re: #61 windsagio
It should be a surprise to no one that the results of that poll will be utter crap >
You’ll support any poll that support what you supports.
That’s why I love to bring up that internet poll which said Jon Stewart is the most trusted name in news these days…
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windsagio Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:46:48pm |
re: #65 PT Barnum
thereabouts yeah. Or whatever school wants to hack the poll and make Obama’s grade “Mickey Mouse”.
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Stanghazi Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:46:49pm |
GM kills the Hummer.
[Link: www.nytimes.com…]
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Racer X Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:47:26pm |
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Nervous Norvous Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:47:43pm |
re: #64 windsagio
A diss AND a pun! You’re in fine form tonight!
Wait’ll I start in on how too much is at stake to let Sarah Palin burn the country to the ground in support of her dominionist political views. Is cliffster here?
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windsagio Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:48:18pm |
re: #73 PT Barnum
albusteve
Alouette
Buck
Dark_Falcon
eclectic infidel
Fat Bastard Vegetarian
freetoken
goddamnedfrank
…
no :p
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albusteve Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:48:22pm |
re: #59 PT Barnum
Actually, he’s mostly being judged by no brainers so far, more interested in labeling him a socialist than actually discussing substantive policy issues.
haha!…good one!…I think we should start a political party….what’s the difference?
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Varek Raith Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:48:32pm |
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Stanghazi Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:48:39pm |
re: #71 windsagio
good things can’t come too soon :)
I ran across a blog awhile ago, who knows where, where the guy took photos of himself shooting the bird to every hummer he saw. Photos included his hand shooting the bird and hummers. All over the states.
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Nervous Norvous Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:48:48pm |
re: #70 Stanley Sea
GM kills the Hummer.
[Link: www.nytimes.com…]
They must have talked to my ex-wife…oh..wrong kind of hummer.. If that was over the line, I’ll report myself to Charles.
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The Sanity Inspector Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:49:52pm |
re: #21 HoosierHoops
This post pains me…
I have seen so much of this posted.. Veterans coming home messed up..
I am restless. I hate the kitchen table at which I am writing. I lost patience over a book. I should like to push the landscape aside as if it irritated me. I must get to the Front. I must again hear the shells roaring up into the sky and the desolate valley echoing the sound. I must get back to my Company…live once again in the realm of death.
— Helmut Zschulte, 1917
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windsagio Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:51:03pm |
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jamesfirecat Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:51:22pm |
re: #80 The Sanity Inspector
I am restless. I hate the kitchen table at which I am writing. I lost patience over a book. I should like to push the landscape aside as if it irritated me. I must get to the Front. I must again hear the shells roaring up into the sky and the desolate valley echoing the sound. I must get back to my Company…live once again in the realm of death.
— Helmut Zschulte, 1917
Its sad to reflect on how the battfield may end up claiming even those who don’t end up getting wounded or killed upon it….
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jamesfirecat Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:52:13pm |
re: #82 albusteve
beat her…blow jobs are a human right
Have a down ding for suggesting violence against women if they refuse to give you sexual gratification.
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Nervous Norvous Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:52:15pm |
| 88 |
Stanghazi Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:52:57pm |
re: #80 The Sanity Inspector
I am restless. I hate the kitchen table at which I am writing. I lost patience over a book. I should like to push the landscape aside as if it irritated me. I must get to the Front. I must again hear the shells roaring up into the sky and the desolate valley echoing the sound. I must get back to my Company…live once again in the realm of death.
— Helmut Zschulte, 1917
Excellent book I just read: Soldier from the War Returning. Profiled 4 soldiers after WWII and the trials they faced.
[Link: insight.newbeacon.org…]
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The Sanity Inspector Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:53:23pm |
re: #3 Obdicut
Hey, I asked this in the last thread, but I’ll re-ask it here:
A friend of mine is having difficulty adjusting to civilian life after having been a sniper in the Army. Lizards, do you know, outside of what the Army already provides, of good resources for ex-military people having difficulty adjusting to civilian life? I don’t mean, like, direct therapy or anything, but more someone who can figure out some career path or something. He did okay for awhile as a trainer for police departments, but he doesn’t like it, for some reason he can’t even express.
He needs someone who knows what he’s going through, I guess, and help him figure out a next step from here.
Any advice gladly taken.
Even though you say he rejects the direct therapy, there may be something for him in some of the programs on offer here. Even if no one can draw him a map, it may help to know that other people have gotten over this mountain before him.
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srb1976 Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:53:26pm |
Evening folks, waiting for the munchkins to wind down so that I can pack it in for the night…..
Hope everyone is OK…
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Political Atheist Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:53:34pm |
re: #87 PT Barnum
Consecrated smoke to hide in perhaps… Stood to close to a radioactive humor post.
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Nervous Norvous Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:53:37pm |
re: #86 jamesfirecat
Have a down ding for suggesting violence against women if they refuse to give you sexual gratification.
I quite agree…actually trying to get busy with my ex was like pledge week on your local public radio station…took 20 minutes of begging before I got to anything I cared about!
| 93 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:54:05pm |
re: #82 albusteve
That’s generally not the sort of thing we joke about around here, bro. You’re lucky Mandy is out for the night.
| 95 |
Nervous Norvous Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:54:19pm |
re: #91 Rightwingconspirator
Consecrated smoke to hide in perhaps… Stood to close to a radioactive humor post.
which one?
| 96 |
Stanghazi Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:54:45pm |
| 98 |
Nervous Norvous Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:55:08pm |
re: #93 Slumbering Behemoth
That’s generally not the sort of thing we joke about around here, bro. You’re lucky Mandy is out for the night.
I find that chocolate and cleaning the kitchen works better anyway..
| 100 |
Racer X Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:55:56pm |
| 101 |
Nervous Norvous Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:56:03pm |
re: #97 Rightwingconspirator
was that steve’s response? I’m really punchy tonight..so probably not to quick on the uptake..
| 102 |
Nervous Norvous Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:57:03pm |
re: #100 Racer X
I found a new video I thought you may enjoy.
[Video]
Good lord…that was hysterical!
| 103 |
Political Atheist Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:57:28pm |
re: #101 PT Barnum
Yes, and I thought Mandy was in.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:57:40pm |
re: #82 albusteve
I hope you’re drunk, and don’t remember what you posted in the morning.
| 105 |
Nervous Norvous Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:58:12pm |
re: #103 Rightwingconspirator
Yes, and I thought Mandy was in.
ah..yeah, he would have gotten his ass handed to him…after she pulled off the thing he would be using to piss up the rope.
| 106 |
Political Atheist Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:58:13pm |
re: #98 PT Barnum
69 ways to work that out I think.
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Ojoe Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:58:19pm |
The great globe reels in the solar fire,
Spinning the trivial and unique away.
The link is to the latest full resolution image of the sun today, from the SOHO extreme ultraviolet imaging telescope at 304Å.
| 108 |
jamesfirecat Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:58:32pm |
re: #104 Alouette
I hope you’re drunk, and don’t remember what you posted in the morning.
What I want to know is what was the guy who updinged him thinking/drinking?
| 109 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:59:22pm |
re: #100 Racer X
Damn you, Racer. That was another one I had in my arsenal, bookmarked and waiting for just the right time to spring on you. You’ve been getting the upper hand lately with these, totally dunking on me, but mark my words.
I will have my revenge!
| 110 |
iceweasel Wed, Feb 24, 2010 8:59:58pm |
re: #82 albusteve
beat her…blow jobs are a human right
No, but there’s a right to bite your pencil dick off.
| 111 |
Varek Raith Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:00:13pm |
re: #109 Slumbering Behemoth
Damn you, Racer. That was another one I had in my arsenal, bookmarked and waiting for just the right time to spring on you. You’ve been getting the upper hand lately with these, totally dunking on me, but mark my words.
I will have my revenge!
…Will it involve bonsais???
| 113 |
windsagio Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:00:47pm |
| 114 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:01:00pm |
re: #98 PT Barnum
I find being generous in the same dept. also works well.
| 115 |
Nervous Norvous Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:01:16pm |
well I’m off to bed…spent most of yesterday trying to get a mac os 9 emulator to work on my wife’s mac, because it won’t run the mac os 9 software because it’s one of the new Intel based machines. So now I gotta try to find a copy of Quark Xpress 6 or 7 cheap so she can work at home once in a while…damn…..
On the other hand, Titan Quest is a lot of fun on my PC. (finished BioShock, but prefer the RPG type games to the FPS’ers)
| 116 |
webevintage Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:03:09pm |
re: #1 jamesfirecat
So anyone else looking forward to watching the CSPAN debate on healthcare?
Yep.
I hope the table is the wrong size and Bohner spazzes out within the first 5 min.
For your viewing pleasure, Imaginary Tea Party:
Image: 6a01053651288d970c01310f34b445970c-800wi.jpg
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Nervous Norvous Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:03:14pm |
re: #114 Slumbering Behemoth
I find being generous in the same dept. also works well.
I can reel out at least 3 or 4 linguistically cunning puns, but this probably isn’t the right place to do it…
Although I do hear that the chinese term for that particular reciprocity is Tu Kan Chu
| 118 |
albusteve Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:04:30pm |
re: #93 Slumbering Behemoth
That’s generally not the sort of thing we joke about around here, bro. You’re lucky Mandy is out for the night.
okay, don’t beat her…deny her food and water then
| 119 |
Political Atheist Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:04:34pm |
re: #117 PT Barnum
You got a head of me.
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Stanghazi Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:04:38pm |
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jamesfirecat Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:05:07pm |
re: #118 albusteve
okay, don’t beat her…deny her food and water then
You’re really on a “Taming of the Shrew” kick tonight aren’t you?
| 122 |
Political Atheist Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:05:16pm |
| 123 |
The Sanity Inspector Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:05:27pm |
Midnight? Gotta cruise. ‘Night, all.
| 124 |
Nervous Norvous Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:05:59pm |
re: #119 Rightwingconspirator
You got a head of me.
When I was a doctor I used to kiss it and make it better.
Were you a pediatrician then?
No a gynecologist.
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webevintage Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:06:22pm |
re: #70 Stanley Sea
GM kills the Hummer.
[Link: www.nytimes.com…]
What will guys with the small penis do now?
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Political Atheist Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:06:53pm |
re: #122 Rightwingconspirator
Long ago I dated this religious girl. Always went for a lick and a prayer.
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albusteve Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:06:53pm |
re: #104 Alouette
I hope you’re drunk, and don’t remember what you posted in the morning.
stone cold sober…when somebody uses their wife like that to get a few laughs, I thought I’d just riff on it
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Nervous Norvous Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:06:56pm |
re: #125 webevintage
What will guys with the small penis do now?
What they’ve always done, buy large handguns..
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Racer X Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:07:00pm |
re: #109 Slumbering Behemoth
Damn you, Racer. That was another one I had in my arsenal, bookmarked and waiting for just the right time to spring on you. You’ve been getting the upper hand lately with these, totally dunking on me, but mark my words.
I will have my revenge!
Bring it!
I had to watch that Russian guy the whole way though - I could not look away. It is evil.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:07:22pm |
re: #118 albusteve
I like you, but I ain’t going down into that hole with you. You should knock it off. This ain’t the sort of blog that finds humor in such things.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:07:23pm |
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jamesfirecat Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:07:37pm |
re: #125 webevintage
What will guys with the small penis do now?
I bet the military has some spare decommissioned and disarmed tank they could part with for a few hundred grand…
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albusteve Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:07:39pm |
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Political Atheist Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:08:06pm |
re: #124 PT Barnum
Long ago I dated this religious girl. Always went for a lick and a prayer.
Reply PIMF!
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Nervous Norvous Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:08:07pm |
re: #127 albusteve
stone cold sober…when somebody uses their wife like that to get a few laughs, I thought I’d just riff on it
I believe I mentioned it was my ex wife…ex wives are fair game as far as I’m concerned..
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jamesfirecat Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:08:33pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:08:54pm |
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Nervous Norvous Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:09:21pm |
re: #135 Rightwingconspirator
Long ago I dated this religious girl. Always went for a lick and a prayer.
Reply PIMF!
I knew a pervert who got Lyme Disease..
He took a ticking and kept on licking…
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Stanghazi Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:09:45pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:10:10pm |
re: #129 Racer X
Just you wait. That “Trololololo” verse will be stuck in your head for weeks. WEEKS!
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Locker Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:10:13pm |
re: #117 PT Barnum
I can reel out at least 3 or 4 linguistically cunning puns, but this probably isn’t the right place to do it…
Although I do hear that the chinese term for that particular reciprocity is Tu Kan Chu
It’s impossible for me to read the phrase “linguistically cunning” and not see cunilingus which got me to thinking. Could that be the root of the word?
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Nervous Norvous Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:10:36pm |
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albusteve Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:11:54pm |
re: #136 PT Barnum
I believe I mentioned it was my ex wife…ex wives are fair game as far as I’m concerned..
sorry, I missed that part…my second wife was such an awful human being that no joke could be rude enough
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Nervous Norvous Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:12:01pm |
re: #143 Locker
It’s impossible for me to read the phrase “linguistically cunning” and not see cunilingus which got me to thinking. Could that be the root of the word?
Balloon-juice has a regular poster named curtilingus who usually adds creative emoticons like :)~ %P%/ to his post titles..
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Political Atheist Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:13:05pm |
re: #144 PT Barnum
Send that to Lisa Nowak right away!
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Nervous Norvous Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:13:15pm |
re: #145 albusteve
sorry, I missed that part…my second wife was such an awful human being that no joke could be rude enough
my first was pretty bad while we were getting divorced, but now that we’ve been apart longer than we were married, we get along okay..
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Racer X Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:13:15pm |
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Nervous Norvous Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:14:02pm |
re: #149 Racer X
Whew!
I thought that might be a phony baloney pony.
no..I thought about that, but felt that would be going over the top…I try not to post NSFW stuff if I can help it..at least not without a warning.
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albusteve Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:14:41pm |
re: #148 PT Barnum
my first was pretty bad while we were getting divorced, but now that we’ve been apart longer than we were married, we get along okay..
my third wife is an angel and easily the best friend I could ever have…shit happens
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:14:58pm |
re: #143 Locker
It’s impossible for me to read the phrase “linguistically cunning” and not see cunilingus which got me to thinking. Could that be the root of the word?
No, Merriam-Webster tells us that it is derived from the Latin cunnus, ‘vulva’ and lingere ‘to lick’. I assume, though, that ‘lingere’ and ‘lingua’ are both derived from the word for ‘tongue’.
‘Cunning’ is Middle English, from the same root as ‘ken’. The base word means ‘to know’.
Gawd. I is a total geek.
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Nervous Norvous Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:15:23pm |
re: #150 PT Barnum
no..I thought about that, but felt that would be going over the top…I try not to post NSFW stuff if I can help it..at least not without a warning.
Although I did find a company that specializes in animal penis dildos once in the process of reading cracked.com..they post a lot of lists of very very strange stuff….most disturbing sex toys I think was the list…was right next to the Hello Kitty vibrator.
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albusteve Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:15:46pm |
re: #150 PT Barnum
no..I thought about that, but felt that would be going over the top…I try not to post NSFW stuff if I can help it..at least not without a warning.
I always felt that if you were blogging from work, then you take the risk
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Stanghazi Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:16:29pm |
re: #152 SanFranciscoZionist
No, Merriam-Webster tells us that it is derived from the Latin cunnus, ‘vulva’ and lingere ‘to lick’. I assume, though, that ‘lingere’ and ‘lingua’ are both derived from the word for ‘tongue’.
‘Cunning’ is Middle English, from the same root as ‘ken’. The base word means ‘to know’.
Gawd. I is a total geek.
We learn from you. Gracias.
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Locker Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:17:05pm |
re: #146 PT Barnum
Balloon-juice has a regular poster named curtilingus who usually adds creative emoticons like :)~ %P%/ to his post titles..
Creative emoticons huh? I have one I use all the time but it’s not Vsmile action like shown above:
{{{d(^-^)b}}}
Personally designed DJ emoticon ala a la Antoine. Definitely not as good as Louisiana Back-bay Bayou Bunny Bordelaise but it works for me. (And if you get that reference you are old as dirt)
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Nervous Norvous Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:17:06pm |
well that being said, I’m gonna hit the hay for real this time, unless someone says something incredibly funny that I can’t help responding too in the time it takes me to post this and log out…
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Nervous Norvous Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:17:43pm |
re: #157 PT Barnum
well that being said, I’m gonna hit the hay for real this time, unless someone says something incredibly funny that I can’t help responding too in the time it takes me to post this and log out…
nope guess not…gnite everybody
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albusteve Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:17:45pm |
re: #152 SanFranciscoZionist
No, Merriam-Webster tells us that it is derived from the Latin cunnus, ‘vulva’ and lingere ‘to lick’. I assume, though, that ‘lingere’ and ‘lingua’ are both derived from the word for ‘tongue’.
‘Cunning’ is Middle English, from the same root as ‘ken’. The base word means ‘to know’.
Gawd. I is a total geek.
I thought the word had something to do with flavor or satiation…apparently not
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Locker Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:18:12pm |
re: #152 SanFranciscoZionist
No, Merriam-Webster tells us that it is derived from the Latin cunnus, ‘vulva’ and lingere ‘to lick’. I assume, though, that ‘lingere’ and ‘lingua’ are both derived from the word for ‘tongue’.
‘Cunning’ is Middle English, from the same root as ‘ken’. The base word means ‘to know’.
Gawd. I is a total geek.
Hehe oh well my hopes and dreams are smashed. I was thinking about some sort of Greek hip hop slang… something like “Baby I’m going to get cunningly linguistic on your vsmile.”
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srb1976 Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:19:34pm |
re: #160 Locker
Hehe oh well my hopes and dreams are smashed. I was thinking about some sort of Greek hip hop slang… something like “Baby I’m going to get cunningly linguistic on your vsmile.”
I thought that was a fairly old one….”Every woman should know a cunning linguist” or something along that line….
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Interesting Times Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:19:46pm |
re: #152 SanFranciscoZionist
No, Merriam-Webster tells us that it is derived from the Latin cunnus, ‘vulva’
…which means that a certain highly vulgar 4-letter word has fancy Latin origins - who knew? :)
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Varek Raith Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:20:39pm |
What interesting turns the comments take.
;)
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Gus Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:21:14pm |
re: #144 PT Barnum
They buy one of these:
OK, I can see where that might come in handy. It’s not a new idea and all that jazz. But that website managed to turn a pee funnel into a lifestyle experience. T-shirts and hats included. That’s like if I bought a hat that screams to the world “I use a pee cup!” Kind of weird.
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Locker Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:22:25pm |
re: #163 Jimmah
It’s like playing Tron in slow motion and she’s kind of foxy. Ultimately I think I prefer the strain of cannabis to the song but hey, to each his own. ;)
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albusteve Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:23:40pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:24:04pm |
re: #162 publicityStunted
…which means that a certain highly vulgar 4-letter word has fancy Latin origins - who knew? :)
Merriam-Webster traces that one to Middle English, but the coincidence makes me think that both words must come from a common Indo-European root.
Incidentally, the
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:25:06pm |
re: #168 SanFranciscoZionist
Merriam-Webster traces that one to Middle English, but the coincidence makes me think that both words must come from a common Indo-European root.
Incidentally, the
Incidentally, the early Indo-European word from which ‘mouse’ is derived means ‘thief’. We’ve been duking it out with those little guys a LONG time.
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darthstar Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:25:56pm |
re: #138 Slumbering Behemoth
Or women with penis envy?
I liked Margaret Atwood’s take on it in “The Handmaid’s Tale”…
The pen is envy.
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iceweasel Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:25:58pm |
re: #166 Locker
It’s like playing Tron in slow motion and she’s kind of foxy. Ultimately I think I prefer the strain of cannabis to the song but hey, to each his own. ;)
Haha— KNEW we liked you, we were just talking about the cannabis. :)
heh.
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albusteve Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:27:19pm |
from Northern Lights Southern Cross
the Band
Acadian Driftwood
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Jimmah Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:30:06pm |
re: #166 Locker
It’s like playing Tron in slow motion and she’s kind of foxy. Ultimately I think I prefer the strain of cannabis to the song but hey, to each his own. ;)
Ice-ski happens to be a dead ringer for that singer :) I know about the pot - I just wish I had some right now to appreciate the song even more!
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:30:13pm |
re: #152 SanFranciscoZionist
I prefer to simply call it “The Behemoth Special”. Two for one deals on the right night.
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windsagio Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:32:25pm |
Amazing and creepy presentation on the future of games and life.
The guys a bit too high tempo for me, but the presentation is well worth seeing.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:34:29pm |
re: #165 Gus 802
OK, I can see where that might come in handy. It’s not a new idea and all that jazz. But that website managed to turn a pee funnel into a lifestyle experience. T-shirts and hats included. That’s like if I bought a hat that screams to the world “I use a pee cup!” Kind of weird.
The genius is marketing an “I use a pee cup!” hat and getting it to sell. Capitalism is freaking awesome!
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srb1976 Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:36:24pm |
Think that does it for the munchkins…maybe it was pure exhaustion, but it looks like lullabies really do work…..even on 5 year olds….
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Gus Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:37:35pm |
re: #178 Slumbering Behemoth
The genius is marketing an “I use a pee cup!” hat and getting it to sell. Capitalism is freaking awesome!
Do you have one that say “I pee on the floor?”
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albusteve Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:39:01pm |
re: #180 iceweasel
What the heck?
It’s pink of course. Aww. Do they have one with Hello Kitty on it?
(no answers pls, Rule 34 violation pending I’m sure…)
hahaha!…gawd
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Political Atheist Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:39:26pm |
re: #180 iceweasel
Hello Kitty?! Thats funny on so many levels.
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Soap_Man Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:40:03pm |
re: #51 Obdicut
I see the polls are getting swamped by Fs. Probably the Paulians.
According to RCP, his approval rating is 47.4, yet this poll indicates that 64.12 percent give him an F.
So yeah, they are right. The poll is not scientific.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:40:22pm |
re: #177 windsagio
The idea of games being part of the real world is what’s taking hold: games that have you jumping around in the real world, games that have you connecting with people in the real world.
You mean, like, Monopoly?
;)
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jamesfirecat Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:42:38pm |
re: #187 Slumbering Behemoth
You mean, like, Monopoly?
;)
Now if you manage to humiliate someone in WOW you now have a right to drive over to their house and claim one piece of their furniture!
On that note I’m off to bed.
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iceweasel Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:42:49pm |
re: #174 Jimmah
Ice-ski happens to be a dead ringer for that singer :) I know about the pot - I just wish I had some right now to appreciate the song even more!
What the heck? She looks like a Manson Family member.
Jim-ski, of course, is a dead ringer for Mel Gibson in Braveheart.
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albusteve Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:44:28pm |
re: #187 Slumbering Behemoth
You mean, like, Monopoly?
;)
I always cut the Go to Jail card…then have to dump Baltic Ave to get out
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:44:47pm |
re: #181 Gus 802
Do you have one that say “I pee on the floor?”
No, but used to have a t-shirt that said “78 cents or I piss on your flowers.”
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albusteve Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:45:19pm |
re: #190 iceweasel
What the heck? She looks like a Manson Family member.
Jim-ski, of course, is a dead ringer for Mel Gibson in Braveheart.
right…and I’m Duke Nukem
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iceweasel Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:45:22pm |
re: #192 Slumbering Behemoth
No, but used to have a t-shirt that said “78 cents or I piss on your flowers.”
REID FLEMING! YEA!
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:46:20pm |
re: #144 PT Barnum
They buy one of these:
There’s a chapter in this very, very useful book one those things.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:47:00pm |
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Varek Raith Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:47:25pm |
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albusteve Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:48:25pm |
re: #197 Slumbering Behemoth
I hear there is a new game coming out.
/
I wish…they have been saying that for years
“come get some”
DN
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Jimmah Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:48:33pm |
re: #190 iceweasel
What the heck? She looks like a Manson Family member.
Jim-ski, of course, is a dead ringer for Mel Gibson in Braveheart.
No way - he just looks like a mad fucker…lol
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:48:50pm |
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albusteve Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:49:27pm |
re: #200 Jimmah
No way - he just looks like a mad fucker…lol
“your face, your ass…what’s the difference?”
Duke
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:49:33pm |
re: #198 Varek Raith
“It’ll be ready when its ready!”
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Varek Raith Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:50:26pm |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:51:58pm |
re: #153 PT Barnum
Although I did find a company that specializes in animal penis dildos once in the process of reading cracked.com..they post a lot of lists of very very strange stuff…most disturbing sex toys I think was the list…was right next to the Hello Kitty vibrator.
man, it gets SO MUCH MORE DISTURBING than Zeta Creations and Hello Kitty vibrators. :D
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:52:15pm |
re: #204 Varek Raith
That’s on series I’ve never played. I am so deprived.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:53:04pm |
re: #197 Slumbering Behemoth
I hear there is a new game coming out.
/
DNF = Duke Nukem Forever = Did Not Finish :D
George Broussard should honestly be in fucking jail for what he did to his developers. The guy is swine.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:54:00pm |
re: #207 Slumbering Behemoth
That’s on series I’ve never played. I am so deprived.
Just go hunt for them, all the Elite games are on abandonware site sIIRC. DOSBox rules!
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albusteve Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:54:42pm |
Alvin Lee, one more time
Bluest Blues…yup
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sngnsgt Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:54:55pm |
How do I tell Firefox to open my home page when I open a new tab?
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Killgore Trout Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:55:09pm |
Senate votes to extend USA Patriot Act for 1 year
The Senate voted Wednesday to extend for a year key provisions of the nation’s counterterrorism surveillance law that are scheduled to expire at the end of the month. In agreeing to pass the bill, Senate Democrats retreated from adding new privacy protections to the USA Patriot Act.
The Senate approved the bill on a voice vote with no debate. It now goes to the House.
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albusteve Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:55:53pm |
re: #211 sngnsgt
How do I tell Firefox to open my home page when I open a new tab?
offer it a drink, go from there
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freetoken Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:57:30pm |
re: #212 Killgore Trout
I really dislike the terminology of that law… the Patriot Act.
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Locker Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:58:03pm |
re: #174 Jimmah
Ice-ski happens to be a dead ringer for that singer :) I know about the pot - I just wish I had some right now to appreciate the song even more!
Then you should be “Going to California with an aching… in your heart… la la la la…” We’ll get you fixed up quick.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:58:52pm |
re: #214 freetoken
I really dislike the terminology of that law… the Patriot Act.
The name “Lemon Party” was already taken.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:59:05pm |
re: #212 Killgore Trout
Tea Party stalwarts accuse the Obama administration of taking away their rights in 5, 4, 3, 2…
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albusteve Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:59:25pm |
New $1 Billion Embassy in London Called ‘Ridiculous’ Waste of Taxpayer Money
indoor Caribbean islands etc…
[Link: www.foxnews.com…]
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:59:26pm |
re: #209 WindUpBird
I can’t believe I missed snatching up this hard-copy collection nine years ago, just for the POR series alone.
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albusteve Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:00:24pm |
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avanti Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:00:28pm |
This will turn out well:
“Senator James Inhofe (R-OK) today asked the Obama administration to investigate what he called “the greatest scientific scandal of our generation” — the actions of climate scientists revealed by the Climategate files, and the subsequent admissions by the editors of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) Fourth Assessment Report (AR4).
Senator Inhofe also called for former Vice President Al Gore to be called back to the Senate to testify.
“In [Gore’s] science fiction movie, every assertion has been rebutted,” Inhofe said. He believes Vice President Gore should defend himself and his movie before Congress. “
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:01:57pm |
re: #218 albusteve
New $1 Billion Embassy in London Called ‘Ridiculous’ Waste of Taxpayer Money
indoor Caribbean islands etc…
[Link: www.foxnews.com…]
Well…it’s…cube-y.
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Varek Raith Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:02:45pm |
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iceweasel Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:03:35pm |
re: #214 freetoken
I really dislike the terminology of that law… the Patriot Act.
No kidding. Its full name is the USA PATRIOT Act, and it was always 20 pounds of bullshit in a tortured (whoops!) fake acronym:
Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism Act of 2001
I feel safer already.— Feels itchy.
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freetoken Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:05:12pm |
re: #221 avanti
Put up a spin-off on this topic.
Inhofe has compiled a list of prominent names he wants to refer to Justice for possible criminal charges.
This comes after certain House Republicans want to explicitly blacklist some scientists for being involved in the IPCC.
The GOP has gone full on McCarthy.
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Varek Raith Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:05:15pm |
re: #224 iceweasel
No kidding. Its full name is the USA PATRIOT Act, and it was always 20 pounds of bullshit in a tortured (whoops!) fake acronym:
Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism Act of 2001
I feel safer already.— Feels itchy.
Huh, I did no know this…
:/
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albusteve Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:06:19pm |
re: #224 iceweasel
No kidding. Its full name is the USA PATRIOT Act, and it was always 20 pounds of bullshit in a tortured (whoops!) fake acronym:
Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism Act of 2001
I feel safer already.— Feels itchy.
they should change the name to the Airport Shoe Removal Act…get real for once
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avanti Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:07:43pm |
re: #225 freetoken
Put up a spin-off on this topic.
Inhofe has compiled a list of prominent names he wants to refer to Justice for possible criminal charges.
This comes after certain House Republicans want to explicitly blacklist some scientists for being involved in the IPCC.
The GOP has gone full on McCarthy.
I have no idea of what a spin off is, but here’s more:
BTW, he wants him to give back the Nobel prize too.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:07:52pm |
re: #221 avanti
I’ll take them seriously when the haul Corey Feldman before congress to answer for this pile of crap.
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albusteve Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:08:34pm |
re: #225 freetoken
Put up a spin-off on this topic.
Inhofe has compiled a list of prominent names he wants to refer to Justice for possible criminal charges.
This comes after certain House Republicans want to explicitly blacklist some scientists for being involved in the IPCC.
The GOP has gone full on McCarthy.
gotta get to the bottom of the Carbon Offset Scam…
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iceweasel Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:09:28pm |
re: #226 Varek Raith
Huh, I did no know this…
:/
Well, they could have called it the F UR FREEDUMS Act, but I guess they thought the commies in congress might not have voted for it then.
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albusteve Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:09:31pm |
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freetoken Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:09:52pm |
re: #228 avanti
Each LGF article has a “spin-off” section, of links. Look up, it’s right after the body of the entry.
Also, there is a composite of all spin-offs, at the very top of the entries, allowing you to filter for what you want.
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iceweasel Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:10:16pm |
re: #231 iceweasel
Well, they could have called it the F UR FREEDUMS Act, but I guess they thought the commies in congress might not have voted for it then.
Not enough furries in congress, obv.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:13:18pm |
Today was my school’s Black History Month assembly.
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iceweasel Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:14:23pm |
re: #227 albusteve
they should change the name to the Airport Shoe Removal Act…get real for once
We didn’t even start with the shoe removal crap til Richard Reid.
And I must say, it’s still the case that US flights and airports have nowhere near the kind of security that others do, even now. Partly because Americans bitch over any delay or any security process.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:15:56pm |
re: #236 iceweasel
We didn’t even start with the shoe removal crap til Richard Reid.
And I must say, it’s still the case that US flights and airports have nowhere near the kind of security that others do, even now. Partly because Americans bitch over any delay or any security process.
I don’t get the moaning about the shoe thing. I just wear slip-ons. It takes, like, forty-five seconds.
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albusteve Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:16:19pm |
re: #235 SanFranciscoZionist
Today was my school’s Black History Month assembly.
I hope they gave some time to this guy
[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]
a friggin genius
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avanti Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:16:55pm |
re: #233 freetoken
Each LGF article has a “spin-off” section, of links. Look up, it’s right after the body of the entry.
Also, there is a composite of all spin-offs, at the very top of the entries, allowing you to filter for what you want.
Thanks, learned something new.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:17:14pm |
re: #239 albusteve
I hope they gave some time to this guy
[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]
a friggin genius
He got a mention, but not much time.
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iceweasel Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:18:48pm |
re: #238 SanFranciscoZionist
I don’t get the moaning about the shoe thing. I just wear slip-ons. It takes, like, forty-five seconds.
I don’t get it either. It’s ridiculous. Just wear something that comes off super easily if you’re lazy or in a rush. But we’ll have a round of complaints over minimal airline security measures, and none whatsoever about the Patriot Act.
Taking my shoes off? Oh hell no, now it’s gone too far! ///
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albusteve Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:19:45pm |
re: #236 iceweasel
We didn’t even start with the shoe removal crap til Richard Reid.
And I must say, it’s still the case that US flights and airports have nowhere near the kind of security that others do, even now. Partly because Americans bitch over any delay or any security process.
the public has little confidence in the TSA….maybe a part of it…perception is everything…personally I like lots of armed security guys etc
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Jimmah Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:20:59pm |
re: #238 SanFranciscoZionist
I don’t get the moaning about the shoe thing. I just wear slip-ons. It takes, like, forty-five seconds.
I actually just thought of that on my last airport ordeal - where foolishly wore boots that took 25 minutes to loosen.
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albusteve Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:22:06pm |
re: #238 SanFranciscoZionist
I don’t get the moaning about the shoe thing. I just wear slip-ons. It takes, like, forty-five seconds.
my travel heels are not easy to take off and put on without showing my slip…it’s terribly annoying
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freetoken Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:22:08pm |
Well, this should help fight societal decay:
No Cussing movement up for state recognition
California is one step closer to cleaning up its language while at the same time achieving a legislative miracle.
This morning, legislators will vote on a bill to declare next week California Cuss Free Week. The bill is the idea of South Pasadena High School student McKay Hutch, who started a No Cussing Club at his junior high in 2007.
“I want to bring awareness to people about how we speak to each other,” he said. “Your words become your actions, your actions become your behavior, your behavior becomes your character and your character becomes your destiny.”
In other words, those dirty words lead to dirty deeds and a bleak future, Hutch said.
But beyond washing out California’s collective mouth with soap for one week, Hutch has united political rivals for a common cause.
The bill is co-sponsored by Anthony Portantino, a Democrat from Pasadena, and Cameron Smyth, a Republican from Santa Clarita.
Instead of lobbing cuss words at each other in Sacramento, the two California Assemblymen are trying to bring civility back for at least one week, Portantino said.
But if today’s vote doesn’t go Portantino’s way, he said he might let a four-letter word slip out.
California… our air may be dirty, but our language is clean!
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Jimmah Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:22:16pm |
re: #242 iceweasel
I don’t get it either. It’s ridiculous. Just wear something that comes off super easily if you’re lazy or in a rush. But we’ll have a round of complaints over minimal airline security measures, and none whatsoever about the Patriot Act.
Taking my shoes off? Oh hell no, now it’s gone too far! ///
I’m defintiley wearing easy off shit next time :)
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iceweasel Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:23:32pm |
re: #247 Jimmah
I’m defintiley wearing easy off shit next time :)
It’s my fault; I’ll warn you next time and give you iceweasel’s handy tips for transatlantic flights. :)
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Locker Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:23:40pm |
re: #247 Jimmah
I’m defintiley wearing easy off shit next time :)
I think you should leave the easy off shit for icy ;)
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Gus Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:24:14pm |
re: #222 SanFranciscoZionist
Well…it’s…cube-y.
The US embassy in Iraq cost about 800 million all told. Keeping in mind that the new embassy in London is in the heart of that city in one of the best locations it’s easy to see why the price tag is up to 1 billion. Also considering that ground breaking won’t take place until 2013 so you have inflation taking place for construction.
Here is the winning design from KieranTimberlake. As you can see from the rendering there is no moat that was alleged by the critics. It’s pond located in the park grounds adjacent to the building. You can see an aerial rendering there which I’m pretty sure is being overlayed with a flag of Turkey by some wingnuts as we type. It does have a bit of a crescent shape in the park plan view.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:24:34pm |
re: #245 albusteve
my travel heels are not easy to take off and put on without showing my slip…it’s terribly annoying
Give the hard-working lads of TSA a thrill, then!
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iceweasel Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:26:20pm |
re: #249 Locker
I think you should leave the easy off shit for icy ;)
Now you know why icy loves the kilt. ;)
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albusteve Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:27:27pm |
re: #251 Gus 802
The US embassy in Iraq cost about 800 million all told. Keeping in mind that the new embassy in London is in the heart of that city in one of the best locations it’s easy to see why the price tag is up to 1 billion. Also considering that ground breaking won’t take place until 2013 so you have inflation taking place for construction.
Here is the winning design from KieranTimberlake. As you can see from the rendering there is no moat that was alleged by the critics. It’s pond located in the park grounds adjacent to the building. You can see an aerial rendering there which I’m pretty sure is being overlayed with a flag of Turkey by some wingnuts as we type. It does have a bit of a crescent shape in the park plan view.
whatever…it’s gawd awful ugly…it’s like ugly is the new pink for architecture….have you seen the Giant Dildo in London?…highly acclaimed….good grief
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:28:28pm |
re: #246 freetoken
Ain’t gonna work. I live there.
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Gus Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:28:29pm |
re: #254 albusteve
whatever…it’s gawd awful ugly…it’s like ugly is the new pink for architecture…have you seen the Giant Dildo in London?…highly acclaimed…good grief
Deep man.
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Jimmah Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:29:13pm |
At Heathrow in London, even after you have cleared all security, they quiz you at the newsagent in the airport. “Where the fuck are you flying to? Lets see your bloody passport” Excuse me - but I’ve been through security and I’m just trying to buy a fucking newspaper. I didnt have to come in this shop. Do you mind?” lol
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iceweasel Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:30:24pm |
re: #246 freetoken
Well, this should help fight societal decay:
No Cussing movement up for state recognition
California… our air may be dirty, but our language is clean!
What’s up with the coyness over saying ‘curse’? Is that also a bad word? We have to say ‘cuss’?
Fuck that.
My serious point here is that euphemism in speech is a kind of doublethink in the Orwellian sense. NewSpeak consists of nothing but euphemisms; that is, in fact, its defining characteristic. Euphemisms should be shunned.
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albusteve Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:33:56pm |
re: #259 iceweasel
What’s up with the coyness over saying ‘curse’? Is that also a bad word? We have to say ‘cuss’?
Fuck that.
My serious point here is that euphemism in speech is a kind of doublethink in the Orwellian sense. NewSpeak consists of nothing but euphemisms; that is, in fact, its defining characteristic. Euphemisms should be shunned.
it’s Kalifornia…next they will tax your speach
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Gus Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:35:32pm |
re: #259 iceweasel
What’s up with the coyness over saying ‘curse’? Is that also a bad word? We have to say ‘cuss’?
Fuck that.
My serious point here is that euphemism in speech is a kind of doublethink in the Orwellian sense. NewSpeak consists of nothing but euphemisms; that is, in fact, its defining characteristic. Euphemisms should be shunned.
The fear of the word curse is probably associated with its use during more archaic time when it was associated with supernatural powers and other magic. Some people consider the word darn a curse. From the Online Etymology Dictionary:
curse
O.E. curs “a prayer that evil or harm befall one,” of uncertain origin, perhaps O.Fr. curuz “anger,” or L. cursus “course.” Connection with cross is unlikely. No similar word exists in Gmc., Romance, or Celtic. Meaning “to swear profanely” is from c.1230. Curses as a histrionic exclamation is from 1885. The curse “menstruation” is from 1930.
darn
tame curse word, 1781, Amer.Eng. euphemism for damn, said to have originated in New England when swearing was a punishable offense; if so, its spread was probably infl. by ‘tarnal, short for Eternal, as in By the Eternal (God), favorite exclamation of Andrew Jackson, among others. Related: Darndest (superl., 1844).
The religious origins are obvious.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:35:34pm |
re: #259 iceweasel
Euphemisms should be shunned.
What?!? You don’t have a raging clue of what you’re talking about.
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Gus Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:36:48pm |
re: #260 albusteve
it’s Kalifornia…next they will tax your speach
They’ll fine you for cursing in right wing Colorado Springs.
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iceweasel Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:37:13pm |
re: #260 albusteve
it’s Kalifornia…next they will tax your speach
Not bloody likely.
BTW, It’s not the Giant Dildo, but the Gherkin, Giant Gherkin, Erotic Gherkin, or similar.
Image: 30-st-mary-axe-gherkin-london.jpg
Don’t tell Malkin though. She thinks a Gherkin is a commie thing. /
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albusteve Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:37:30pm |
“I want to bring awareness to people about how we speak to each other,” he said. “Your words become your actions, your actions become your behavior, your behavior becomes your character and your character becomes your destiny.”
w00t!…high school students in CA put up legislation!
Read more: [Link: www.pasadenastarnews.com…]
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:38:05pm |
re: #259 iceweasel
What’s up with the coyness over saying ‘curse’? Is that also a bad word? We have to say ‘cuss’?
Fuck that.
My serious point here is that euphemism in speech is a kind of doublethink in the Orwellian sense. NewSpeak consists of nothing but euphemisms; that is, in fact, its defining characteristic. Euphemisms should be shunned.
I associate the word “cuss” with older people and my grandfather in particular, who would hassle me about my language as a kid. (he was right to do so, I was a foul-mouthed kid, haha) My parents never referred to it as cussing, they always said “swearing”. Maybe it’s a regional thing? Pop versus soda versus coke…
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:39:43pm |
re: #258 Jimmah
At Heathrow in London, even after you have cleared all security, they quiz you at the newsagent in the airport. “Where the fuck are you flying to? Lets see your bloody passport” Excuse me - but I’ve been through security and I’m just trying to buy a fucking newspaper. I didnt have to come in this shop. Do you mind?” lol
Wow, really? God damn. o_O
(have I mentioned lately that my favorite UK export is Top Gear? That show is about the most fun I have ever had watching TV)
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albusteve Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:39:49pm |
re: #264 iceweasel
Not bloody likely.
BTW, It’s not the Giant Dildo, but the Gherkin, Giant Gherkin, Erotic Gherkin, or similar.
[Link: roadsofstone.files.wordpress.com…]Don’t tell Malkin though. She thinks a Gherkin is a commie thing. /
the Horny Commie Gherkin assaults the skyline!…
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iceweasel Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:39:59pm |
re: #266 WindUpBird
I associate the word “cuss” with older people and my grandfather in particular, who would hassle me about my language as a kid. (he was right to do so, I was a foul-mouthed kid, haha) My parents never referred to it as cussing, they always said “swearing”. Maybe it’s a regional thing? Pop versus soda versus coke…
Doesnt explain the 2010 CA usage, though. Really, why should the word ‘curse’ itself be too ‘bad’ to use? Or why not ‘profanity’? Or ‘obscenity’? Etc.
“cuss” is just bizarrely prudish in the CA situation imo.
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albusteve Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:40:58pm |
re: #263 Gus 802
They’ll fine you for cursing in right wing Colorado Springs.
streams of gross liquid tobacco, spit at your feet are within the law I bet
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Jimmah Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:41:19pm |
re: #259 iceweasel
What’s up with the coyness over saying ‘curse’? Is that also a bad word? We have to say ‘cuss’?
Fuck that.
My serious point here is that euphemism in speech is a kind of doublethink in the Orwellian sense. NewSpeak consists of nothing but euphemisms; that is, in fact, its defining characteristic. Euphemisms should be shunned.
Jesus tittyfucking christ.
In my experience the very worst sort of people practice this kind of pious faux civility- they express the vilest ideas but change a couple of letters so that the actual sequence of letters is different. Classic example would be those religious types who express their mysogyny by calling women ‘scrunts’.
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Gus Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:42:57pm |
re: #270 albusteve
streams of gross liquid tobacco, spit at your feet are within the law I bet
Maybe. It’s really not like that in the Springs. Kind of like suburbia.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:43:10pm |
re: #268 albusteve
the Horny Commie Gherkin assaults the skyline!…
“Like a giant dildo crushing the sun”
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:43:28pm |
re: #263 Gus 802
They’ll fine you for cursing in right wing Colorado Springs.
Simon Phoenix: Look I don’t need a history lesson! C’mon, HAL, where are the god damn guns?
Moral Statute Machine: You are fined one credit for a violation of the Verbal Morality Statute.
Simon Phoenix: What? Fuck you!
Moral Statute Machine: Your repeated violation of the Verbal Morality Statute has caused me to notify the San Angeles Police Department. Please remain where you are for your reprimand.
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Varek Raith Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:44:21pm |
re: #274 WindUpBird
Simon Phoenix: Look I don’t need a history lesson! C’mon, HAL, where are the god damn guns?
Moral Statute Machine: You are fined one credit for a violation of the Verbal Morality Statute.
Simon Phoenix: What? Fuck you!
Moral Statute Machine: Your repeated violation of the Verbal Morality Statute has caused me to notify the San Angeles Police Department. Please remain where you are for your reprimand.
Three seashells.
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Gus Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:44:31pm |
re: #274 WindUpBird
Simon Phoenix: Look I don’t need a history lesson! C’mon, HAL, where are the god damn guns?
Moral Statute Machine: You are fined one credit for a violation of the Verbal Morality Statute.
Simon Phoenix: What? Fuck you!
Moral Statute Machine: Your repeated violation of the Verbal Morality Statute has caused me to notify the San Angeles Police Department. Please remain where you are for your reprimand.
I remembered that but had to Google…
Demolition Man
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albusteve Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:44:31pm |
re: #271 Jimmah
Jesus tittyfucking christ.
In my experience the very worst sort of people practice this kind of pious faux civility- they express the vilest ideas but change a couple of letters so that the actual sequence of letters is different. Classic example would be those religious types who express their mysogyny by calling women ‘scrunts’.
scrunts?…wtf? are you talking about now?…can I use this term safely?, never heard it
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iceweasel Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:44:34pm |
re: #263 Gus 802
They’ll fine you for cursing in right wing Colorado Springs.
I had a (Mormon) friend from CO Springs. It’s a very weird place.
Also, IIRC, home to every shipping address for latenight infomercials. Weird town according to her.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:45:27pm |
re: #275 Varek Raith
Three seashells.
ILLUMINATE!
DELUMINATE!
I love that movie so much. It always cracks me up.
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albusteve Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:46:20pm |
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Gus Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:46:50pm |
re: #278 iceweasel
I had a (Mormon) friend from CO Springs. It’s a very weird place.
Also, IIRC, home to every shipping address for latenight infomercials. Weird town according to her.
Yeah. It’s not really Western, not really suburbia, not really a city. They have a lot of thumpers but they also have their own version of “the underground.”
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:46:51pm |
re: #271 Jimmah
Sort of like the loudest voices objecting to the term “teabagger” for Tea Party Activists are always the ones who constantly, and descriptively, bring up it’s sexual definition.
Okay, maybe not. But close, I think.
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Jimmah Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:47:03pm |
re: #267 WindUpBird
Wow, really? God damn. o_O
(have I mentioned lately that my favorite UK export is Top Gear? That show is about the most fun I have ever had watching TV)
For you, WUB - Clarkson Island :
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:48:36pm |
re: #281 Gus 802
Yeah. It’s not really Western, not really suburbia, not really a city. They have a lot of thumpers but they also have their own version of “the underground.”
I have heard the wildest stories about the goth/counterculture underground of Salt Lake City, just people taking everything to the absolute limits, like a depraved secret society.
I’d like to believe that Co. Springs has a similar thing happening. :D
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Gus Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:48:44pm |
The ain’t gonna be none of that cussin’. Otherwise I’s gonna wash out your mouth with soap. If that don’t work well once your poppa comes home from the lumber yard he’s gonna take you right out to the wood shed.
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albusteve Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:49:02pm |
re: #281 Gus 802
Yeah. It’s not really Western, not really suburbia, not really a city. They have a lot of thumpers but they also have their own version of “the underground.”
CO Springs is meaningless…I say get rid of it
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iceweasel Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:49:40pm |
re: #282 Slumbering Behemoth
Sort of like the loudest voices objecting to the term “teabagger” for Tea Party Activists are always the ones who constantly, and descriptively, bring up it’s sexual definition.
Okay, maybe not. But close, I think.
I’d say it’s close. They’re obsessed with the notion it’s a homosexual act — which, duh, it is not.
Kinda like the whole FistGate Freakout, to be honest. I’ve read quite a few insanely lurid wingnut posts on that, and once again, they’re fixated on a very specific, and exclusively male homosexual, meaning.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:50:01pm |
re: #283 Jimmah
For you, WUB - Clarkson Island :
[Video]
I HAVE SEEN IT AND I LAUGH EVERY TIME :D
“Fed a diet of raw meat and nonsense…”
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albusteve Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:50:42pm |
re: #284 WindUpBird
I have heard the wildest stories about the goth/counterculture underground of Salt Lake City, just people taking everything to the absolute limits, like a depraved secret society.
I’d like to believe that Co. Springs has a similar thing happening. :D
why?…that’s just sort of strange…goth/counterculture is so retro
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:51:40pm |
re: #280 albusteve
the next Dylan?
I dunno, but the absurdity of his early lyrics (’90s) always cracked me up.
Lyrics like “saving all your food stamps for burning down the trailer park”, “bargain hunting smurf finger”, and “my time is a piece of wax falling on a termite, that’s choking on the splinters” are among my favorite “WTF?” lyrics.
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Jimmah Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:52:38pm |
re: #277 albusteve
scrunts?…wtf? are you talking about now?…can I use this term safely?, never heard it
It’s actually quite common in wingnuttia these days.
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Gus Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:52:46pm |
re: #284 WindUpBird
I have heard the wildest stories about the goth/counterculture underground of Salt Lake City, just people taking everything to the absolute limits, like a depraved secret society.
I’d like to believe that Co. Springs has a similar thing happening. :D
You ever see SLC Punk! Pretty good movie about two punk rockers in SLC.
What happens is that in the more repressed communities you will find more of what could be called extreme because of the repression. Something akin to “absence makes the heart grow fonder.” I guess you can add abstinence make the log grow harder. My bad.
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albusteve Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:53:02pm |
re: #291 Slumbering Behemoth
I dunno, but the absurdity of his early lyrics (’90s) always cracked me up.
Lyrics like “saving all your food stamps for burning down the trailer park”, “bargain hunting smurf finger”, and “my time is a piece of wax falling on a termite, that’s choking on the splinters” are among my favorite “WTF?” lyrics.
profound?…I think not…I blame the NEA
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:54:19pm |
re: #290 albusteve
why?…that’s just sort of strange…goth/counterculture is so retro
I think everything is becoming retro and current all at once. The radio dial is filled with successful retro bands. Look at The Sword: retro Black Sabbath-ish band. Wolfmother: Retro Zeppelin. Muse: sounds like a heavier Styx with some spaced out Rush and Floyd thrown in.. Jet: sounds like AC-DC. Avenged Sevenfold: Hair metal with some punk thrown in.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:55:08pm |
re: #293 Gus 802
You ever see SLC Punk! Pretty good movie about two punk rockers in SLC.
What happens is that in the more repressed communities you will find more of what could be called extreme because of the repression. Something akin to “absence makes the heart grow fonder.” I guess you can add abstinence make the log grow harder. My bad.
I loved SLC Punk. Surprisingly touching little movie. I love the sort of spacey Robert Smith guru dude. “I treasure these talks!”
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Jimmah Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:56:36pm |
re: #288 iceweasel
I’d say it’s close. They’re obsessed with the notion it’s a homosexual act — which, duh, it is not.
Kinda like the whole FistGate Freakout, to be honest. I’ve read quite a few insanely lurid wingnut posts on that, and once again, they’re fixated on a very specific, and exclusively male homosexual, meaning.
There was an example of it in a lower thread from that freak “bunny thief” or whatever his nic was. The mere mention of the word ‘teabagger’ was enough to make him ask how many scrotums someone had in their mouth - or something like that.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:58:52pm |
re: #291 Slumbering Behemoth
I dunno, but the absurdity of his early lyrics (’90s) always cracked me up.
Lyrics like “saving all your food stamps for burning down the trailer park”, “bargain hunting smurf finger”, and “my time is a piece of wax falling on a termite, that’s choking on the splinters” are among my favorite “WTF?” lyrics.
Did you ever see the movie Walk Hard? Dewey Cox’s Dylan phase had me gasping for air from laughing so hard:
The mouse with the overbite
explained how the rabbits were ensared
the skinny scanty sylph trashed the apothecary diplomat
inside the three eyed moneky within inches of his toaster oven life
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:59:09pm |
re: #297 Jimmah
There was an example of it in a lower thread from that freak “bunny thief” or whatever his nic was. The mere mention of the word ‘teabagger’ was enough to make him ask how many scrotums someone had in their mouth - or something like that.
WHY WASN’T I THERE FOR THIS
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iceweasel Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:59:39pm |
re: #297 Jimmah
There was an example of it in a lower thread from that freak “bunny thief” or whatever his nic was. The mere mention of the word ‘teabagger’ was enough to make him ask how many scrotums someone had in their mouth - or something like that.
Saw that. The Rabbit Robbler or whoever beclowned himself mightily in that thread.
ACoRn! etc.
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Gus Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:00:40pm |
re: #296 WindUpBird
I loved SLC Punk. Surprisingly touching little movie. I love the sort of spacey Robert Smith guru dude. “I treasure these talks!”
I liked the road trip to get beer.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:01:04pm |
re: #300 iceweasel
Saw that. The Rabbit Robbler or whoever beclowned himself mightily in that thread.
ACoRn! etc.
The Lapine Larcenist!
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iceweasel Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:03:10pm |
re: #302 WindUpBird
The Lapine Larcenist!
You were pretty busy yourself today!
I favourited one of your comments and plan on stealing part in the future (with acknowledgement of course)
Could NOT stop laughing! :)
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windsagio Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:05:38pm |
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albusteve Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:07:25pm |
re: #295 WindUpBird
I think everything is becoming retro and current all at once. The radio dial is filled with successful retro bands. Look at The Sword: retro Black Sabbath-ish band. Wolfmother: Retro Zeppelin. Muse: sounds like a heavier Styx with some spaced out Rush and Floyd thrown in.. Jet: sounds like AC-DC. Avenged Sevenfold: Hair metal with some punk thrown in.
I get alot of shit about music here, and rightly so I suppose, because I’m so rigid and old fashioned…that said, 99.5% of all riffs have already been played…somebody stole it from someone before them and that was always true…that’s why I go all the way back to the beginning and have so much respect for the cats that dreamed up that stuff…you can change the sound, the beat, the attack, but nothing is original anymore, if it’s played on real instruments by real people…innovation is a hard fought commodity now days…I’m a guitar/keyboard RB guy, and don’t care much for anything that cannot be played on stage…but I like new talent and am always looking out for something fresh sounding, even tho it’s the same old riff again….kinda hard to explain I guess
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windsagio Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:08:06pm |
also! Random music link:
Very odd version of one of my favorite songs ever
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albusteve Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:11:56pm |
re: #306 windsagio
also! Random music link:
Very odd version of one of my favorite songs ever
[Video]
doesn’t freak me out like some of the bizarre stuff posted here…kinda cool
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windsagio Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:14:07pm |
re: #307 albusteve
Its not like the stuff I usually post I admit. Also, the most accessable Hawkwind song by like a million degrees.
…. since I love it so much, the original, for comparison
The guy in the first link actually wrote it himself, he was part of the band for a while.
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Jimmah Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:14:21pm |
re: #305 albusteve
And Kraftwerk totally ripped off the Stones. This for example , is just “Satisfaction” with a few twiddly effects added :
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windsagio Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:16:50pm |
I think the things that distinguish new acts nowadays are the mixture of influences; like WUB saying a band “sounds like a heavier Styx with some spaced out Rush and Floyd thrown in”. With occasionally something new.
There was very little like Skinny Puppy before there was Skinny Puppy ;)
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iceweasel Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:17:57pm |
re: #305 albusteve
I get alot of shit about music here, and rightly so I suppose, because I’m so rigid and old fashioned…that said, 99.5% of all riffs have already been played…somebody stole it from someone before them and that was always true…that’s why I go all the way back to the beginning and have so much respect for the cats that dreamed up that stuff…you can change the sound, the beat, the attack, but nothing is original anymore, if it’s played on real instruments by real people…innovation is a hard fought commodity now days…I’m a guitar/keyboard RB guy, and don’t care much for anything that cannot be played on stage…but I like new talent and am always looking out for something fresh sounding, even tho it’s the same old riff again…kinda hard to explain I guess
Aw, albusteve….I like your music, and when I tease you about it it’s done affectionately, really.
That being said, you’re right about innovation too…
(I’m even putting in ellipses for affection, btw)
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windsagio Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:18:43pm |
re: #311 iceweasel
Music taste is like the most fun thing to chaff somebody about :p
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windsagio Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:21:17pm |
Somebody link some music or I’m gonna start spamming >>
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iceweasel Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:21:45pm |
re: #312 windsagio
Music taste is like the most fun thing to chaff somebody about :p
Well, yeah. Especially when you’re just gently teasing someone who does know music and it’s just a difference in tastes, not some kind of put-down issue. As opposed to when we were 13 or so, etc. :P
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windsagio Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:23:31pm |
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albusteve Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:23:39pm |
re: #309 Jimmah
And Kraftwerk totally ripped off the Stones. This for example , is just “Satisfaction” with a few twiddly effects added :
[Video]
the one guy does look like Charlie Watts
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Gus Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:24:19pm |
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windsagio Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:26:44pm |
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iceweasel Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:27:43pm |
re: #318 windsagio
I dunno, you like Tatu :p
Heehee…Tatu is a private joke between me and Jim-ski. :)
Back in the days before we were officially in love, and wingnuts here roamed free, we’d post Tatu and Russian to freak out those who genuinely believed we were seekrit commies. Still do, sometimes. Just to leave Russian messages for each other. :p
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Gus Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:28:27pm |
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windsagio Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:28:41pm |
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albusteve Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:29:28pm |
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Jimmah Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:29:44pm |
re: #323 windsagio
Argh, is that Auto-tuned?
In places, for effect. Believe me, she can sing. Very talented. ;-)
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windsagio Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:30:55pm |
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Gus Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:32:03pm |
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windsagio Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:32:48pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:32:56pm |
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Killgore Trout Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:33:00pm |
re: #280 albusteve
the next Dylan?
Not really. He had the potential but never followed up. His work over the past 15 years or so has been good but the following just isn’t there. Good music though.
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Gus Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:33:36pm |
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iceweasel Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:34:21pm |
re: #333 Gus 802
Classic! I love the intro.
Band I was in once did a set where we just covered some Ramones tunes. It was Halloween and we opened for ourselves dressed as them, lol.
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Gus Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:36:24pm |
re: #338 iceweasel
Band I was in once did a set where we just covered some Ramones tunes. It was Halloween and we opened for ourselves dressed as them, lol.
Jeans, biker jacket, t-shirt, Converse sneakers. Also have to have the black hair and the bangs.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:37:38pm |
re: #305 albusteve
In the ’80s, the joke was that neo-nazi, skinhead punks stole their riffs from The Stones, who in turn had stolen their riffs from the old blues/R&B bands.
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Jimmah Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:38:14pm |
re: #330 windsagio
Youre just gonna get hit with more and more Chung King till you submit, bastard :)
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iceweasel Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:38:34pm |
re: #339 Gus 802
Jeans, biker jacket, t-shirt, Converse sneakers. Also have to have the black hair and the bangs.
Yep. I wore a wig. Freaking HOT. (not ‘hawt’, i mean, sweaty Jesus.).
KKK Took My Baby Away
If I were still in a band I’d totally write a version of this and call it the JBS took my baby away.
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Gus Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:38:41pm |
re: #337 Gus 802
Ugh, and their manager, Linda Stein, was murdered in 2007. Recent news:
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Jimmah Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:39:49pm |
re: #329 iceweasel
yes!
Sheena is a punk rocker.
[Video]
Wonderful :)
Sheena is also a parasite though ;-)
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Gus Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:40:00pm |
re: #342 iceweasel
Yep. I wore a wig. Freaking HOT. (not ‘hawt’, i mean, sweaty Jesus.).
KKK Took My Baby Away
[Video]If I were still in a band I’d totally write a version of this and call it the JBS took my baby away.
You know it’s hot when the sweat start rolling into your eyes and you can taste the salt on your lips.
The JBS took my baby away…
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windsagio Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:40:07pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:40:52pm |
re: #310 windsagio
There was very little like Skinny Puppy before there was Skinny Puppy ;)
Thank goodness, otherwise the nazis might have won.
/no, I am not calling Skinny Puppy or their fans nazis
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windsagio Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:40:54pm |
re: #343 Gus 802
I hate to joke at that kind of tragedy, but will we some day be talking about the Curse of the Ramones?
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Jack Burton Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:41:51pm |
re: #347 Slumbering Behemoth
/no, I am not calling Skinny Puppy or their fans nazis
Good, I would have had to declare Shenanigans.
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iceweasel Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:42:03pm |
re: #343 Gus 802
Ugh, and their manager, Linda Stein, was murdered in 2007. Recent news:
Oh i remember that. Very, very ugly.
More happily, the corner of Bowery and 2nd is named for Joey Ramone now:
[Link: www.thevillager.com…]
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windsagio Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:42:22pm |
re: #347 Slumbering Behemoth
They just sap your will to fight, I know :)
PS: Best use of sampling ever!
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Gus Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:42:24pm |
re: #348 windsagio
I hate to joke at that kind of tragedy, but will we some day be talking about the Curse of the Ramones?
I don’t know but it almost sounds like a curse. I don’t really believe in those things though. I mean, look at Chris and Dana Reeve.
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iceweasel Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:43:31pm |
re: #349 ArchangelMichael
Good, I would have had to declare Shenanigans.
W00t! The DJ is IN!
S’up? Missed you!
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Gus Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:43:36pm |
re: #350 iceweasel
Oh i remember that. Very, very ugly.
More happily, the corner of Bowery and 2nd is named for Joey Ramone now:
[Link: www.thevillager.com…]
New Yawk! I like the B-W photo.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:45:02pm |
re: #305 albusteve
I get alot of shit about music here, and rightly so I suppose, because I’m so rigid and old fashioned…that said, 99.5% of all riffs have already been played…somebody stole it from someone before them and that was always true…that’s why I go all the way back to the beginning and have so much respect for the cats that dreamed up that stuff…you can change the sound, the beat, the attack, but nothing is original anymore, if it’s played on real instruments by real people…innovation is a hard fought commodity now days…I’m a guitar/keyboard RB guy, and don’t care much for anything that cannot be played on stage…but I like new talent and am always looking out for something fresh sounding, even tho it’s the same old riff again…kinda hard to explain I guess
There’s plenty of music I like that isn’t really able to be performed truly live, but at my core I am most of all about live music. I was hostile to anything without live drums until I found a band with a drum machine I really could not deny was brilliant. There’s finite riffs and finite chord progressions, but I think there’s an infinite number of ways to approach rock music. It’s like, the English language is still the same, and it’s been said by lit geeks that there’s only, what 8 basic plots? But there’s still always new stories to be told. There’s still originality, it’s just not perfect originality, it’s building on other things. Music evolves, we still use the same basic principles the Beatles came up with for multi-track recording and tape-loops.
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windsagio Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:45:39pm |
re: #351 windsagio
A year ago exactly on this same night we were assembled here in this very room. I your pastor and you my beloved flock. With hopefulness in my heart, I told you then that with Lucifer’s aid we might look forward to a more succulent occasion. Cast back your mind. There we were, gathered together gloomy and despondent, around that single…
meager…
woodcutter…
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:45:41pm |
re: #338 iceweasel
Band I was in once did a set where we just covered some Ramones tunes. It was Halloween and we opened for ourselves dressed as them, lol.
Gwar did that once for a tour! I saw them as their own opening act, X-Cops.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:45:57pm |
re: #351 windsagio
They just sap your will to fight, I know :)
PS: Best use of sampling ever!
[Video]
PUPPY :D
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Gus Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:46:26pm |
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windsagio Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:46:41pm |
re: #359 WindUpBird
I sent it to you and linked it above, did you see that Cover of Moonglum I found? Curious what you think >
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windsagio Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:47:45pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:48:39pm |
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Jimmah Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:49:00pm |
re: #340 Slumbering Behemoth
In the ’80s, the joke was that neo-nazi, skinhead punks stole their riffs from The Stones, who in turn had stolen their riffs from the old blues/R&B bands.
Funniest thing of all was that the whole skinhead movement was kicked off in Jamaica! And was in the main, in terms of music culture, continued by reggae loving anti-racist skinheads. The racist skin heads were always just a sad sideshow, culturally speaking. The only band the racist ones - properly known as boneheads - had was Skrewdriver. Yes, you’ve never heard of them - no one has. Here’s the real thing:
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iceweasel Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:49:02pm |
re: #358 WindUpBird
Gwar did that once for a tour! I saw them as their own opening act, X-Cops.
I think a bunch of people have done it— in our case the actual opening act cancelled a couple of days before, but it was for a gig on halloween, and I can’t remember but it might have been my idea that we just open for ourselves. We had a banner saying Gabba Gabba Hey too, heh.
I was a huge Ramones fan at the time. (still am)
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:49:10pm |
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Jack Burton Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:49:10pm |
re: #353 iceweasel
W00t! The DJ is IN!
S’up? Missed you!
Well let me see, I’m sick again (for the 3rd time this year) and still single, and dealing with a couple epic FAILs in that arena. That’s been keeping me busy and broke for a few weeks.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:50:20pm |
re: #361 windsagio
I sent it to you and linked it above, did you see that Cover of Moonglum I found? Curious what you think >
Fuck! I did not! Going to find it now
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windsagio Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:50:28pm |
re: #363 Slumbering Behemoth
I love all their stuff >>
I think that Demon Days was the best Album of the 2000’s, not stupid Crack the Skye
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Gus Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:51:17pm |
re: #350 iceweasel
Oh i remember that. Very, very ugly.
More happily, the corner of Bowery and 2nd is named for Joey Ramone now:
[Link: www.thevillager.com…]
Joey Ramone’s mom, Charlotte Lesher, in the middle here. 1926-2007.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:51:36pm |
Once Upon a Time in The West - Opening sequence
Nobody has the patience for this stuff anymore. Too bad.
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Jimmah Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:52:05pm |
re: #346 windsagio
You’ve not been paying attention, guy.
I NEVER SUBMIT!
but just for that:
[Video]
Good stuff - ty - havent heard of them before :)
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windsagio Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:52:34pm |
re: #371 Killgore Trout
They used to have the Finale of “A few Dollars More” on Youtube, but the stupid studio nuked it. Thats my favorite of the Leone flicks.
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iceweasel Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:53:10pm |
re: #360 Gus 802
And go back to New Joisy!
/
I was once in a cab years ago in manhattan where the driver spoke no English (yes, that’s a constant) — until some guy in front of us tried to make an illegal turn, blocking the street.
Driver slammed on the brakes, unleashed a stream of (what I assume were curses), gestured violently out the window, and in the only English he would say to me, gestured at the license plate and said, in a tone dripping with contempt and heavily tinged with an unknown accent:
YOU SEE? NEW JERSEY!
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:53:13pm |
re: #369 windsagio
I love all their stuff >>
I think that Demon Days was the best Album of the 2000’s, not stupid Crack the Skye
:(
(Demon Days is pretty fantastic)
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windsagio Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:54:24pm |
re: #376 WindUpBird
IM’d you the song,
And the Crack crack was just for you (and maybe SB, I just presume he likes Mastodon :p)
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Gus Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:54:30pm |
re: #375 iceweasel
I was once in a cab years ago in manhattan where the driver spoke no English (yes, that’s a constant) — until some guy in front of us tried to make an illegal turn, blocking the street.
Driver slammed on the brakes, unleashed a stream of (what I assume were curses), gestured violently out the window, and in the only English he would say to me, gestured at the license plate and said, in a tone dripping with contempt and heavily tinged with an unknown accent:YOU SEE? NEW JERSEY!
I love it.
Damn Connecticut drivers! //
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:57:04pm |
re: #372 Jimmah
Good stuff - ty - havent heard of them before :)
Katatonia’s is my OTHER favorite album of the year besides Mastodon’s. :D
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iceweasel Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:57:58pm |
re: #378 Gus 802
I love it.
Damn Connecticut drivers! //
The best part was that this guy really didn’t speak english, but NEW JERSEY! was uttered with at least as much loathing as any noo yawker could pack in— and with a distinctly Noo Yawkian accent, even with his own accent. Nooo Joisey!
I gave him a huge tip. heh.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Feb 25, 2010 12:02:18am |
re: #364 Jimmah
I’ve heard of Skrewdriver. I was a teen in the ’80s, you know. Skinny suspenders, eighteen eyed Docs, an absolutely no tattoos. I wasn’t one of them, but me and my hessian buddies had our run ins with those types.
Much like Ozzy and his buds did.
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Gus Thu, Feb 25, 2010 12:02:23am |
re: #371 Killgore Trout
Once Upon a Time in The West - Opening sequence
[Video]Nobody has the patience for this stuff anymore. Too bad.
Once Upon a Time in America. Same director, Sergio Leone and music score by Ennio Morricone.
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Jimmah Thu, Feb 25, 2010 12:06:18am |
re: #378 Gus 802
I love it.
Damn Connecticut drivers! //
In NYC, ice and I got a cab - which was stopped by the fuzz before we got to our destination. Argument ensued between tiny napoleonesque Italian cop and Caribbean driver, with the meter still running, which iceweasel took serious umbrage at. I got to hear her in full flow, with the Noo Yawk accent to the fore. It just made me want to marry her even more :)
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Gus Thu, Feb 25, 2010 12:07:08am |
re: #382 Gus 802
Once Upon a Time in America. Same director, Sergio Leone and music score by Ennio Morricone.
Clip here.
If you listen closely you can always hear the signature use of sounds known for the work of Sergio Leone. Especially when people are eating. The clip that KT posted also has a lot of great natural sounds.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Feb 25, 2010 12:07:56am |
re: #382 Gus 802
I can’t believe I have never heard of that. Want. Now.
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Gus Thu, Feb 25, 2010 12:08:49am |
re: #384 Jimmah
In NYC, ice and I got a cab - which was stopped by the fuzz before we got to our destination. Argument ensued between tiny napoleonesque Italian cop and Caribbean driver, with the meter still running, which iceweasel took serious umbrage at. I got to hear her in full flow, with the Noo Yawk accent to the fore. It just made me want to marry her even more :)
Next time you’re in NY take a drive to meet some New Jersey State Troopers. On second thought you might not want to do that. ;)
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Gus Thu, Feb 25, 2010 12:09:01am |
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Jimmah Thu, Feb 25, 2010 12:10:23am |
re: #381 Slumbering Behemoth
I’ve heard of Skrewdriver. I was a teen in the ’80s, you know. Skinny suspenders, eighteen eyed Docs, an absolutely no tattoos. I wasn’t one of them, but me and my hessian buddies had our run ins with those types.
Much like Ozzy and his buds did.
That song is about nazi skinheads? I thought it was just a trippy heavy metal bad mushroom deal.
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iceweasel Thu, Feb 25, 2010 12:12:00am |
re: #384 Jimmah
In NYC, ice and I got a cab - which was stopped by the fuzz before we got to our destination. Argument ensued between tiny napoleonesque Italian cop and Caribbean driver, with the meter still running, which iceweasel took serious umbrage at. I got to hear her in full flow, with the Noo Yawk accent to the fore. It just made me want to marry her even more :)
Heh. It was Christmastime and massive traffic issues, and I don’t have a new york accent normally, just under stress — but I do consciously employ it in certain situations.
Anyway, yeah, meter still running and I just let loose in very NY fashion.
And you married me anyway. Wow. :-)
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Gus Thu, Feb 25, 2010 12:14:25am |
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Jimmah Thu, Feb 25, 2010 12:15:33am |
Oh btw - I’d like to nominate the most pathetic heavy metal song of all time at this point : Enter Sandman, by Metallica.
Actually hilarious - a bunch of grown heavy metal dudes singing about being scared to go to sleep at night - because it’s all dark and stuff. Don’t tell me you haven’t all laughed raucously about that one.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Feb 25, 2010 12:20:05am |
re: #389 Jimmah
That song is about nazi skinheads? I thought it was just a trippy heavy metal bad mushroom deal.
As legend tells it, the song was written after an altercation a couple of them had with Docs-wearing skin-heads. Though the “trippin’ on mushrooms” thing is probably closer to the truth.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Feb 25, 2010 12:22:59am |
re: #392 Jimmah
Oh btw - I’d like to nominate the most pathetic heavy metal song of all time at this point : Enter Sandman, by Metallica.
Actually hilarious - a bunch of grown heavy metal dudes singing about being scared to go to sleep at night - because it’s all dark and stuff. Don’t tell me you haven’t all laughed raucously about that one.
WTF are you talking about. There is no such song in the Metallica discography. You must be thinking of a cover band or something. Metallica split up after the death of Cliff Burton.
/lalalala, I can’t hear you, lalalala!
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Gus Thu, Feb 25, 2010 12:23:14am |
re: #392 Jimmah
Oh btw - I’d like to nominate the most pathetic heavy metal song of all time at this point : Enter Sandman, by Metallica.
Actually hilarious - a bunch of grown heavy metal dudes singing about being scared to go to sleep at night - because it’s all dark and stuff. Don’t tell me you haven’t all laughed raucously about that one.
I was never a fan. I do remember watching a documentary about them once and finding James Hetfield to be rather normal. People tend to mellow with age so with rock musicians the changes sometimes seem rather stark or contrasting to their earlier youthful persona. Sort of like listening to Robert Plant talk these days compared to when I first saw him in magazine when I was a kid.
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Gus Thu, Feb 25, 2010 12:24:25am |
I’m still dropping the “s” from my plurals. Weird.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Feb 25, 2010 12:27:40am |
re: #396 Gus 802
I’m still dropping the “s” from my plurals. Weird.
No dude… … … … … … its right there^
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Feb 25, 2010 12:28:04am |
re: #395 Gus 802
I was never a fan. I do remember watching a documentary about them once and finding James Hetfield to be rather normal. People tend to mellow with age so with rock musicians the changes sometimes seem rather stark or contrasting to their earlier youthful persona. Sort of like listening to Robert Plant talk these days compared to when I first saw him in magazine when I was a kid.
I’m a fan, mostly of Master of Puppets :D I did like Sandman when it came out, it was one of the first songs I ever learned on drums. But I’m a bit tired of it now, it was impossible to escape in the 90’s
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iceweasel Thu, Feb 25, 2010 12:28:10am |
re: #395 Gus 802
I was never a fan. I do remember watching a documentary about them once and finding James Hetfield to be rather normal. People tend to mellow with age so with rock musicians the changes sometimes seem rather stark or contrasting to their earlier youthful persona. Sort of like listening to Robert Plant talk these days compared to when I first saw him in magazine when I was a kid.
I never liked Metallica and still don’t. But was this the doc? Some Kind of Monster?
I saw that and did think it was a great documentary. I’d recommend it to people who know nothing about Metallica and don’t even like them.
The friend who dragged me along to see it did convince me to listen to them a bit more, and I still don’t like them, but the doc was great.
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Gus Thu, Feb 25, 2010 12:29:54am |
re: #400 iceweasel
I never liked Metallica and still don’t. But was this the doc? Some Kind of Monster?
I saw that and did think it was a great documentary. I’d recommend it to people who know nothing about Metallica and don’t even like them.
The friend who dragged me along to see it did convince me to listen to them a bit more, and I still don’t like them, but the doc was great.
Yeah, I think that was the one. It’s a good film.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Feb 25, 2010 12:32:32am |
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Gus Thu, Feb 25, 2010 12:32:36am |
re: #399 WindUpBird
I’m a fan, mostly of Master of Puppets :D I did like Sandman when it came out, it was one of the first songs I ever learned on drums. But I’m a bit tired of it now, it was impossible to escape in the 90’s
Yeah, they were hard to miss. Although I do know some people still never heard of Boston or Kansas. The bands that is. ;)
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Feb 25, 2010 12:32:57am |
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iceweasel Thu, Feb 25, 2010 12:35:58am |
re: #405 Gus 802
Yeah, they were hard to miss. Although I do know some people still never heard of Boston or Kansas. The bands that is. ;)
We went up to the attic and he sang me songs. “Classics,” I was informed. The bands were new to me: Boston, Kansas, America, Europe, Asia.
I put my hand on his strings. “Travel exhausts me.”
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Feb 25, 2010 12:36:14am |
re: #405 Gus 802
Yeah, they were hard to miss. Although I do know some people still never heard of Boston or Kansas. The bands that is. ;)
I was at karaoke a few weeks a go where a guy did about the best version of Wayward Son I ave ever heard. Whole bar erupted when he was done :D
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Feb 25, 2010 12:36:38am |
re: #404 WindUpBird
It’s over, you win the thread.
/I almost wet myself laughing, you bastard! Are you happy?!
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Feb 25, 2010 12:37:17am |
re: #409 Slumbering Behemoth
It’s over, you win the thread.
/I almost wet myself laughing, you bastard! Are you happy?!
I was cackling like a hyena when i first found that :D
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Gus Thu, Feb 25, 2010 12:38:01am |
re: #408 WindUpBird
I was at karaoke a few weeks a go where a guy did about the best version of Wayward Son I ave ever heard. Whole bar erupted when he was done :D
ABBA moment? Wait, make that Muriel’s Wedding. ;)
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freetoken Thu, Feb 25, 2010 12:40:08am |
A fan review of Once Upon A Time In The West:
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Feb 25, 2010 12:40:32am |
re: #410 WindUpBird
Lizard Boy looks a little uncomfortable in that pic. Almost like he is thinking “This is not the Metallica I thought I knew”.
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Gus Thu, Feb 25, 2010 12:41:39am |
re: #407 iceweasel
We went up to the attic and he sang me songs. “Classics,” I was informed. The bands were new to me: Boston, Kansas, America, Europe, Asia.
I put my hand on his strings. “Travel exhausts me.”
[Video]
Ryan Sobra would enjoy that.
//
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Gus Thu, Feb 25, 2010 12:46:38am |
re: #407 iceweasel
We went up to the attic and he sang me songs. “Classics,” I was informed. The bands were new to me: Boston, Kansas, America, Europe, Asia.
I put my hand on his strings. “Travel exhausts me.”
[Video]
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Gus Thu, Feb 25, 2010 12:51:08am |
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iceweasel Thu, Feb 25, 2010 12:57:02am |
re: #414 Gus 802
Ryan Sobra would enjoy that.
//
Haha— oh yes, he would. I think I’m just going to call him Tommy Gnosis from now on.
I love the vid, btw. Thank you!
Such a great movie. Made jimmah watch it while he was here.
Midnight Radio and Wig in a Box are probably my faves.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Feb 25, 2010 12:58:31am |
400 plus comments on a LNDT? I saw it was posted early. Charles musta had some business to take care of last night.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Feb 25, 2010 1:00:39am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Feb 25, 2010 1:01:42am |
re: #419 Slumbering Behemoth
Tonight! Watch you damn time zones, kid.
/aww, damnit!
I got my 6 hours sleep, so, good morning!!
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Gus Thu, Feb 25, 2010 1:04:20am |
re: #417 iceweasel
Haha— oh yes, he would. I think I’m just going to call him Tommy Gnosis from now on.
I love the vid, btw. Thank you!
Such a great movie. Made jimmah watch it while he was here.Midnight Radio and Wig in a Box are probably my faves.
[Video]
John Cameron Mitchell does a really good job in that movie all around. Never saw it. Looks interesting.
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iceweasel Thu, Feb 25, 2010 1:04:24am |
re: #418 Cannadian Club Akbar
400 plus comments on a LNDT? I saw it was posted early. Charles musta had some business to take care of last night.
Maybe he should always post the LNDT thread early.
Seriously. Been a very nice thread, I note.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Feb 25, 2010 1:04:34am |
re: #420 Cannadian Club Akbar
That’s the joke, I made my silly rant after the strike of twelve. So I am… never mind. It’s not as funny as I thought it was in my head.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Feb 25, 2010 1:07:05am |
re: #422 iceweasel
Maybe he should always post the LNDT thread early.
Seriously. Been a very nice thread, I note.
Good to hear. Beats 6-7 hours of flame throwing. And I didn’t know Charles had a fiancee. Good for him.
re: #423 Slumbering Behemoth
That’s the joke, I made my silly rant after the strike of twelve. So I am… never mind. It’s not as funny as I thought it was in my head.
I got it, don’t worry.:)
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iceweasel Thu, Feb 25, 2010 1:07:51am |
re: #421 Gus 802
John Cameron Mitchell does a really good job in that movie all around. Never saw it. Looks interesting.
Oh it’s great. I even own it on DVD rather than just torrenting it. It’s terrific. You’d like it!
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Gus Thu, Feb 25, 2010 1:09:41am |
re: #425 iceweasel
Oh it’s great. I even own it on DVD rather than just torrenting it. It’s terrific. You’d like it!
The back up band sound great too. Really capture the feel of a lot popular music from the 70s and 80s.
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iceweasel Thu, Feb 25, 2010 1:17:03am |
re: #426 Gus 802
The back up band sound great too. Really capture the feel of a lot popular music from the 70s and 80s.
Yeah, I’m restraining myself from posting more of the videos, because it’s a movie (orig a Bway play) with loads of music, excellent music, — lots of stuff going on too. It’s a commentary on musical styles, but also international politics, and finally (most of all) gender.
Really brilliant. I linked that specific Origin of Love song when I was making the cheap joke about Boston, Kansas, Asia— “travel exhausts me” — but the screenplay is hella witty. The person who says ‘travel exhausts me” is someone who was trapped in east berlin and is now in america, speaking to a teenager who never left Bilgewater USA.
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iceweasel Thu, Feb 25, 2010 1:20:32am |
Oh also, I assume people know, but the video from Hedwig and the Angry Inch that I linked, the “Origin of Love” song, has great animation, and the story about the ‘origin of love’ comes direct from Plato— the Symposium. It’s an animated rendition of one of the stories in that Platonic dialogue.
Also it’s the key to the movie and the central character as well as the opening scene.
Anyway— Hedwig and the Angry Inch. If you don’t already know it, rent it.
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Gus Thu, Feb 25, 2010 1:28:34am |
Went off searching for things and came upon Elizabeth Montgomery. I couldn’t help but notice that three of the main actors died so close in age:
Elizabeth Montgomery - 62
Dick York - 63
Dick Sargent - 64
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freetoken Thu, Feb 25, 2010 1:33:42am |
re: #429 Gus 802
Sad to see them go at such a young age.
It was a fun show in its day, but the latter day remakes/exploitation of it have fallen far short, IMO.
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iceweasel Thu, Feb 25, 2010 1:34:43am |
Should also add here: the lyrics are essentially the same as this one person in the Symposium— the idea that humans were once two. Some of us all male, some of us all female, some of us both.
Then the gods grew afraid and split us— and so now we’re ‘poor two legged creatures’, some of us drawn to the same sex and some of us to the other, but what each of us is looking for is our other half.
This is greek and so ok with homosexuality, but it’s also deeply western w/r/t the idea of looking for the other half to complete us.
It’s really not a coincidence that the Christian philosophers plundered Plato, and specifically this text. They cut out everything about homosexuality or tolerating it, accepting it, and kept the idea that man and woman are ‘one flesh’ when married. Romantic love, chivalry — all this comes from that.
Just sayin.
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Gus Thu, Feb 25, 2010 1:35:45am |
re: #430 freetoken
Sad to see them go at such a young age.
It was a fun show in its day, but the latter day remakes/exploitation of it have fallen far short, IMO.
True, I was never a fan of remakes. Once the flower blooms and is gone it is gone forever. I’ve said it once before. The actors become actors acting like actors acting.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Feb 25, 2010 1:43:29am |
My shift is over, and I am punching out. G’nite Lizards, hope this sticks in your heads they way it has stuck in mine.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Feb 25, 2010 1:46:15am |
This is impressive.
[Link: www.independent.co.uk…]
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Feb 25, 2010 1:56:39am |
This is more impressive. I don’t watch much TV, so some of you might already know the story.
[Link: www.cbsnews.com…]
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Jeff In Ohio Thu, Feb 25, 2010 4:23:33am |
Goodness, some Delmore Schwartz in the morning. Along with Freedy Johnston spilling from my daughters room, a light dusting of large snowflakes and the aroma of fresh coffee, maybe there is a god.
—-
So that when the great blue bell of silence is stilled and stopped or broken
By the babel and chaos of desire unrequited, irritated and frustrated,
When the heart has opened and when the heart has spoken
Not of the purity and symmetry of gratification, but action of insatiable distraction’s dissatisfaction,
Then the heart says, in all its blindness and faltering emptiness:
There is no God. Because I am hope. And hope must be fed.
And then the great blue bell of silence is deafened, dumbed,
and has become the tomb of the living dead.
- from The Choir And Music Of Solitude And Silence
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Boondock St. Bender Thu, Feb 25, 2010 4:27:05am |
snowing like crazy here in jersey now.looks pretty
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Feb 25, 2010 4:31:01am |
re: #442 Boondock St. Bender
We have what will probably be our last cold front coming through tonight. I might grab some beer and sit on the porch, knowing 93 degrees is right around the corner.:(
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Boondock St. Bender Thu, Feb 25, 2010 4:33:48am |
re: #443 Cannadian Club Akbar
lol,yeah,winter will be over soon.right now this is good snow looks like a snow globe outside,but its melting as it hits the ground.kinda like pretty rain.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Feb 25, 2010 4:38:05am |
re: #444 Boondock St. Bender
When I bought the movie “Fargo,” it came with a snow globe. The snow globe has a wrecked car next to the Fargo sign with a guy shot in the head and a cop kneeling over the body. I love that thing.
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Boondock St. Bender Thu, Feb 25, 2010 4:40:36am |
reading carl sagans “this demon haunted world”what a great book.we could really use someone like him now.
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Boondock St. Bender Thu, Feb 25, 2010 4:42:00am |
re: #445 Cannadian Club Akbar
that must start some interesting conversations!
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Boondock St. Bender Thu, Feb 25, 2010 4:43:19am |
re: #445 Cannadian Club Akbar
i always thought how can that dude abandon his trapped pregnant wife?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Feb 25, 2010 4:43:29am |
re: #445 Cannadian Club Akbar
“My precious! I want’s it, my precioussss!!!”
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Feb 25, 2010 4:43:38am |
re: #447 Boondock St. Bender
that must start some interesting conversations!
When my niece was 7 she said, “Uncle CCA, why is that guy shot in the head?” Not kidding. D’oh!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Feb 25, 2010 4:55:53am |
Guy in Tampa was sent to prison for life for stealing a purse yesterday. Why? The woman he stole the purse from fell during the robbery, hit her head and died. In Florida, if someone dies during the commission of a felony, charges are automatically jacked to first degree murder.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Feb 25, 2010 5:02:43am |
How long ‘til the Sea World video hits YouTube? Any bets?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Feb 25, 2010 5:07:29am |
re: #453 Cannadian Club Akbar
The news just said it was the third such incident?
Think the whales trying to tell y’all something?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Feb 25, 2010 5:09:41am |
re: #454 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The news just said it was the third such incident?
Think the whales trying to tell y’all something?
If a dog kills a person, they put it down. The whale has killed one more person than OJ. Will they put it down?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Feb 25, 2010 5:10:07am |
re: #454 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The news just said it was the third such incident?
Think the whale’s trying to tell y’all something?
I seem to be misusing apostrophes this morning.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Feb 25, 2010 5:11:08am |
re: #455 Cannadian Club Akbar
If a dog kills a person, they put it down. The whale has killed one more person than OJ. Will they put it down?
FREE WILLY!
(the damn thing’ll probably starve within a few months, if they do)
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Feb 25, 2010 5:12:22am |
The health care debate will be on C-SPAN 3. I didn’t know there was a C-SPAN 3.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Feb 25, 2010 5:13:02am |
re: #458 Cannadian Club Akbar
(closed circuit?)
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Feb 25, 2010 5:16:57am |
re: #459 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
(closed circuit?)
Got me. This thing is supposed to be 6 hours long. I would watch but I’m going to the Snail races today.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Feb 25, 2010 5:18:13am |
re: #455 Cannadian Club Akbar
“I must’ve killed more men than Cecil B. Demille.”
-The Waco Kid
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Feb 25, 2010 5:19:04am |
re: #460 Cannadian Club Akbar
Saw a funny comic once. Snail sitting up on a turtle’s back.
Snail says, “Wheee!”
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Feb 25, 2010 5:21:50am |
re: #462 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Saw a funny comic once. Snail sitting up on a turtle’s back.
Snail says, “Wheee!”
There is a ditch near the house where I grew up. We had a crazy old lady in the neighborhood that used to catch the turtles and make soup.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Feb 25, 2010 5:27:54am |
Morning lizards. Well, today’s the day I close on the house. Yay fun, if that’s what you want to call it.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Feb 25, 2010 5:29:53am |
re: #464 thedopefishlives
Morning lizards. Well, today’s the day I close on the house. Yay fun, if that’s what you want to call it.
Well, that is a good thing. Now you can say, “Get off my lawn!!” And mean it.:)
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Feb 25, 2010 5:30:27am |
re: #465 Cannadian Club Akbar
Well, that is a good thing. Now you can say, “Get off my lawn!!” And mean it.:)
Yes, much more effective than “Get off the lawn of the people that are letting me live here while they vacation in a warmer climate!”
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Feb 25, 2010 5:33:27am |
re: #466 thedopefishlives
Yes, much more effective than “Get off the lawn of the people that are letting me live here while they vacation in a warmer climate!”
But, much, much more expensive.
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Cato the Elder Thu, Feb 25, 2010 5:33:41am |
re: #466 thedopefishlives
Yes, much more effective than “Get off the lawn of the people that are letting me live here while they vacation in a warmer climate!”
Just out of curiosity, what percentage did you have to put down in this post-subprime climate?
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Feb 25, 2010 5:34:48am |
re: #468 Cato the Elder
Just out of curiosity, what percentage did you have to put down in this post-subprime climate?
You’re going to be shocked, but you can still get a loan as far down as 3.5%. Now, the interest rate is a bit above prime in order to do that, which sucks, but rates are really favorable right now anyway, so the equation sorta balanced.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Feb 25, 2010 5:36:44am |
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Feb 25, 2010 5:38:58am |
re: #470 Cannadian Club Akbar
That was epic. I should show that to the Mrs. Fish.
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RogueOne Thu, Feb 25, 2010 5:40:19am |
Morning folks. I went and got myself a droid last night. It was a toss-up between that and the BB Storm2. I’m thinking I’m going to take this POS back and swap it out for the BB.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Feb 25, 2010 5:40:49am |
re: #472 RogueOne
Morning folks. I went and got myself a droid last night. It was a toss-up between that and the BB Storm2. I’m thinking I’m going to take this POS back and swap it out for the BB.
R2D2?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Feb 25, 2010 5:42:45am |
I actually think my cell phone is broken. I keep sending out resumes and it still isn’t ringing. Hmm.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Feb 25, 2010 5:44:20am |
re: #474 Cannadian Club Akbar
I actually think my cell phone is broken. I keep sending out resumes and it still isn’t ringing. Hmm.
Kick It (tm).
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RogueOne Thu, Feb 25, 2010 5:44:24am |
re: #473 Cannadian Club Akbar
It has a beautiful screen and a ton of free apps but the email sux ass. Plus, for some unknown reason you cannot change any of the system font or icon sizes. Flash support is supposed to be coming this quarter but I can’t use my slingbox with it. It may grow on me so I’m going to try to give it at least a week before I toss it.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Feb 25, 2010 5:51:38am |
re: #473 Cannadian Club Akbar
R2D2?
These are not the droids you’re looking for. He can go about his business.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Feb 25, 2010 5:51:41am |
re: #476 RogueOne
I only use my phone for phone calls, so I have a Net10 phone. I buy 300 minutes at a time for $30. I use less than 100 minutes a month. Sure beats Verizon. I hate them.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Feb 25, 2010 5:52:56am |
re: #478 Cannadian Club Akbar
Hundred and 150 a month. 4 phones.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Feb 25, 2010 5:53:56am |
re: #479 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Hundred and 150 a month. 4 phones.
I didn’t realize you had so many friends.
/
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Cato the Elder Thu, Feb 25, 2010 5:54:30am |
re: #472 RogueOne
Morning folks. I went and got myself a droid last night. It was a toss-up between that and the BB Storm2. I’m thinking I’m going to take this POS back and swap it out for the BB.
“This is not the droid you’re looking for.”
Told ya - iPhone.
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RogueOne Thu, Feb 25, 2010 5:57:24am |
re: #481 Cato the Elder
I use my phone for work and my BB was the handiest invention ever. I knew I’d regret switching platforms.
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Cato the Elder Thu, Feb 25, 2010 5:59:26am |
re: #482 RogueOne
I use my phone for work and my BB was the handiest invention ever. I knew I’d regret switching platforms.
I use my iPhone for work, too. In fact, with all the dictionary apps and stuff, I can to translations on the bus.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Feb 25, 2010 6:00:39am |
re: #483 Cato the Elder
Thanks. When you have typos? Makes me feel much better.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Feb 25, 2010 6:00:47am |
re: #483 Cato the Elder
I use my iPhone for work, too. In fact, with all the dictionary apps and stuff, I can to translations on the bus.
Does it have a preview button?
/
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Cato the Elder Thu, Feb 25, 2010 6:03:10am |
re: #484 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Thanks. When you have typos? Makes me feel much better.
Typos? Where?
[reaches for second cuppa joe]
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Cato the Elder Thu, Feb 25, 2010 6:03:45am |
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Feb 25, 2010 6:04:53am |
re: #486 Cato the Elder
Hey Cato, my band is playing a Baltimore Blues Society show this Saturday in Rosedale (our first gig of the year.) Come out if you can. I can’t remember who the other Baltimore lizard is who wants to see us.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Feb 25, 2010 6:10:02am |
“I’ll give you a winter prediction. It’s gonna’ be cold. It’s gonna’ be gray, and it’s gonna’ last you for the rest of your life.”
-Groundhog Day
That’s my son’s facebook thingy this morning.
I think he’s having a bad day.
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Cato the Elder Thu, Feb 25, 2010 6:19:35am |
re: #488 Mad Al-Jaffee
Hey Cato, my band is playing a Baltimore Blues Society show this Saturday in Rosedale (our first gig of the year.) Come out if you can. I can’t remember who the other Baltimore lizard is who wants to see us.
What time? I’m supposed to go to a kid’s birthday party and bring Haku for entertainment, but that’s in the afternoon.
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RogueOne Thu, Feb 25, 2010 6:20:38am |
re: #483 Cato the Elder
I use my iPhone for work, too. In fact, with all the dictionary apps and stuff, I can to translations on the bus.
I love the apps on this but my biggest daily issue is email. The droid will only push gmail accts where the bb handles them all. I guess I can live with checking it every 5 mins and I’ll eventually figure out how to set up all of my different signatures. I had to do some searching to figure out how to set up a yahoo acct on my droid where the bb all I had to do was type in the address and my password and it took care of everything for me. I don’t like having to do unnecessary steps, I’m lazy that way.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Feb 25, 2010 6:20:47am |
The show starts at 9:00. We’re the opening act. Details are here:
www.mojoworkin.com
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RogueOne Thu, Feb 25, 2010 6:22:27am |
On the plus side, the droid handles Lgf very nicely especially when I have wifi access. I tested it on yesterdays morning thread and it loaded it perfectly. I need to try to sign in and post from it to see if that works too, I’m just assuming it does.
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Cato the Elder Thu, Feb 25, 2010 6:24:50am |
re: #491 RogueOne
I love the apps on this but my biggest daily issue is email. The droid will only push gmail accts where the bb handles them all. I guess I can live with checking it every 5 mins and I’ll eventually figure out how to set up all of my different signatures. I had to do some searching to figure out how to set up a yahoo acct on my droid where the bb all I had to do was type in the address and my password and it took care of everything for me. I don’t like having to do unnecessary steps, I’m lazy that way.
The iPhone setup for my various Gmail accounts was smooth and trouble-free. Everything gets pushed, and there’s nary an attachment I can’t read. But I know getting a BB fan away from his crackberry is like trying to teach AGW to a creationist… ;^)
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PhillyPretzel Thu, Feb 25, 2010 6:26:00am |
I am home today too. I have given myself the assignment of getting my mortgage company to give me my 1098 so that I can get my accountant to finish my taxes.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Feb 25, 2010 6:26:55am |
re: #491 RogueOne
Vendor lock-in is annoying. I mean, yeah, I understand the business principle of making all “your” products work nicely together. But in a world where there’s so many different products to choose from, it should be a basic operating principle to make sure the other guys’ stuff works just as well, so that you make your new product look smokingly good no matter whose email client, document reader, etc., is being used.
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Political Atheist Thu, Feb 25, 2010 6:27:37am |
re: #492 Mad Al-Jaffee
Looks like s good show.
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Jadespring Thu, Feb 25, 2010 6:29:30am |
re: #489 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
“I’ll give you a winter prediction. It’s gonna’ be cold. It’s gonna’ be gray, and it’s gonna’ last you for the rest of your life.”
-Groundhog DayThat’s my son’s facebook thingy this morning.
I think he’s having a bad day.
Sounds like me last week. I got myself out of it by starting to really plan for spring. I’m just about finished putting my seed orders together and have gone over my inventory from last season. I starting planting indoors next week. I find it hard to remain winter blah when looking at hundreds of pretty plants and imagining all the fresh food that’s going to start up again in a few months.
I am really impatient though. At the end of last summer we put in a new well which meant digging up a perennial bed and huge part of the lawn. The silver lining in that was that I planted a huge new perennial bed and about 400 spring bulbs. I’m like a kid waiting for Christmas to come. :)
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Feb 25, 2010 6:30:23am |
re: #497 Rightwingconspirator
Looks like s good show.
It should be. The Holmes Brothers are awesome.
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Political Atheist Thu, Feb 25, 2010 6:33:06am |
re: #499 Mad Al-Jaffee
I wish I could be there. It’s been a while since I photographed a concert, kinda getting the itch.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Feb 25, 2010 6:34:36am |
re: #500 Rightwingconspirator
I wish I could be there. It’s been a while since I photographed a concert, kinda getting the itch.
Looking at your blog right now. Excellent work!
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Political Atheist Thu, Feb 25, 2010 6:36:40am |
re: #501 Mad Al-Jaffee
Well thank you very much. I anxiously await the return of Crossed Keys to the stage.
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The Sanity Inspector Thu, Feb 25, 2010 6:39:59am |
Nationwide ranking of best cities in which to get your car fixed.
Top 5: Memphis, Jacksonville, Omaha, San Antonio, Austin
Bottom 5: Raleigh, Washington DC, Albuquerque, Honolulu, Chicago
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Feb 25, 2010 6:44:06am |
re: #503 The Sanity Inspector
Nationwide ranking of best cities in which to get your car fixed.
Top 5: Memphis, Jacksonville, Omaha, San Antonio, Austin
Bottom 5: Raleigh, Washington DC, Albuquerque, Honolulu, Chicago
Best in Florida: My garage.:)
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Spider Mensch Thu, Feb 25, 2010 6:44:15am |
Olympis womens skier rant..
why did i get pleasure of watching the two American princesses fail on the downhill yesterday? Because they are both drama queens to the max. Vonn and Mancuso, I know nbc plays it up for tv ratings, but it’s now taken a turn into reality tv. but both of them really know how to up the theatrics for the cameras.. the way they both act when the cameras are on them at the finish line is acting class 101. Mancuso with the tiara on her head, Vonn just well taking the limelight..like I said it’s nbc playing it to the hilt, and I guess it works..I’m here talking about it instead of health care, auto recalls, war, etc… ah well I guess I’m just another tv watching sheeple :)))) but i did enjoy seeing them fail, I gotta admit it.
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Boondock St. Bender Thu, Feb 25, 2010 6:51:47am |
re: #505 Spider Mensch
biggest waste of money ever concieved.
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Spider Mensch Thu, Feb 25, 2010 6:56:44am |
re: #506 Boondock St. Bender
biggest waste of money ever concieved.
I suppose it is, but I do enjoy the events, I just wish I had sattellite tv so I could get a more balanced coverage than the nbc suck-a-thon that is broadcasted here in the states.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Feb 25, 2010 6:56:58am |
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Ericus58 Thu, Feb 25, 2010 6:58:51am |
Why the Hatin’ on Olympic competitors and the events?
So, they idea of someone who dedicates their lives in the pursuit of excellence is a buzzkill to some…
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Feb 25, 2010 6:59:33am |
re: #510 Cannadian Club Akbar
Womens hockey tonight. What’s the bet?
Women’s hockey?! Come on, you’re making that up!
/
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:00:22am |
re: #512 Mad Al-Jaffee
Women’s hockey?! Come on, you’re making that up!
/
I know. They’re even allowed to drive now.
///
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:03:27am |
Guy on my radio just called the Sea World killer whale an “Okra” whale, not “Orca.” Heh.
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Spare O'Lake Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:04:09am |
re: #510 Cannadian Club Akbar
Womens hockey tonight. What’s the bet?
Canada - Gold
USA - Silver
WGAS* - Bronze
* Who gives a shit
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Spare O'Lake Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:05:35am |
Canada’s thrashing of the Russkies last night was sweeet!
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:06:18am |
re: #513 Cannadian Club Akbar
I know. They’re even allowed to drive now.
///
Soon they might even be able to vote!
/
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:06:34am |
re: #516 Spare O’Lake
Canada’s thrashing of the Russkies last night was sweeet!
Dan Boyle (Tampa Bay Lightning) had a goal an 2 helpers. Nice.
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Boondock St. Bender Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:10:16am |
re: #511 Ericus58
not feeling it.just a self indulgent waste of money and time on “sports noone gives a rats ass about any other time.crooked judges,doped athletes,desending into a stew of nationalistic dick-waving deuchbaggery.
sorry but i ain’t feeling it.
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Spider Mensch Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:11:05am |
re: #511 Ericus58
Why the Hatin’ on Olympic competitors and the events?
So, they idea of someone who dedicates their lives in the pursuit of excellence is a buzzkill to some…
not hating the competitors or events, I just wish they didn’t play up the theatrics so much. and I’d like to see a more balanced coverage, but as I said I blame the media because it’s all about tv ratings. But it’s all in good sport and competition and it’s a topic for conversation. I’m allowed an opinion. if you don’t like it, tough..
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:12:32am |
re: #520 Spider Mensch
not hating the competitors or events, I just wish they didn’t play up the theatrics so much. and I’d like to see a more balanced coverage, but as I said I blame the media because it’s all about tv ratings. But it’s all in good sport and competition and it’s a topic for conversation. I’m allowed an opinion. if you don’t like it, tough..
But you get to see curling! CURLING!!!!
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Donna Ballard Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:13:47am |
Good Morning Everyone, Happy Thursday to you! :-)
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Spider Mensch Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:15:01am |
re: #521 Mad Al-Jaffee
But you get to see curling! CURLING!!!
I gotta tell ya..I was watching it the other day, Sweden vs US, it did keep my interest. like shuffleboard on ice :)
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:17:00am |
Florida Winter Sports:
Avoid Snowbirds on the Road
Precision Middle Finger
Margarita Mixing
Heh…
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Donna Ballard Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:18:36am |
re: #521 Mad Al-Jaffee
But you get to see curling! CURLING!!!
I’ve watched curling and I can honestly say “I don’t get it!” Is it like chess on ice or something? I don’t see how they can call it a sport, throwing rocks with handles and sweeping the ice don’t seem too athletic to me. Anyone care to enlighten me as to the object of the game?
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Ericus58 Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:18:53am |
re: #519 Boondock St. Bender
not feeling it.just a self indulgent waste of money and time on “sports noone gives a rats ass about any other time.crooked judges,doped athletes,desending into a stew of nationalistic dick-waving deuchbaggery.
sorry but i ain’t feeling it.
Nice… guess that qualifies as a rant ;)
Have you ever been involved with youth sports? Coached or participated? One of your kids, or family?
It’s easy to allow cynicism to cloud that picture, but the achievements and rewards are pretty lofty goals to have.
As far as the ‘faults’ you cite… I think it’s a fairly low percentage of overall participants - welcome to the Human Race.
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Donna Ballard Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:19:15am |
re: #524 Cannadian Club Akbar
Florida Winter Sports:
Avoid Snowbirds on the Road
Precision Middle Finger
Margarita Mixing
Heh…
Oh you are in fine form this morning! Very funny! :-)
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:19:19am |
Morning Lizards!
I have ten minutes.
what’s up?
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:20:07am |
re: #525 Dragon_Lady
I’ve watched curling and I can honestly say “I don’t get it!” Is it like chess on ice or something? I don’t see how they can call it a sport, throwing rocks with handles and sweeping the ice don’t seem too athletic to me. Anyone care to enlighten me as to the object of the game?
To drink lots of beer and manage not to fall on the ice?
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Donna Ballard Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:20:43am |
re: #528 ggt
Morning Lizards!
I have ten minutes.
what’s up?
Good Morning ggt! How are you this lovely day?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:21:02am |
re: #529 ggt
To drink lots of beer and manage not to fall on the ice?
Hell, I fall on carpet. Wouldn’t want to try ice.
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Varek Raith Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:21:58am |
re: #525 Dragon_Lady
I’ve watched curling and I can honestly say “I don’t get it!” Is it like chess on ice or something? I don’t see how they can call it a sport, throwing rocks with handles and sweeping the ice don’t seem too athletic to me. Anyone care to enlighten me as to the object of the game?
Moe Meguro
;)
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sattv4u2 Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:22:23am |
re: #531 Cannadian Club Akbar
Hell, I fall on carpet. Wouldn’t want to try ice.
Yeah ,,, but it’s hard to slide those stones on a carpet!
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:22:27am |
re: #525 Dragon_Lady
I’ve watched curling and I can honestly say “I don’t get it!” Is it like chess on ice or something? I don’t see how they can call it a sport, throwing rocks with handles and sweeping the ice don’t seem too athletic to me. Anyone care to enlighten me as to the object of the game?
Put the rock in the circle.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:23:30am |
re: #534 thedopefishlives
Put the rock in the circle.
Whats next ,,,, the Olympic Rock/Paper/Scissors competition!?!!?
/
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:23:56am |
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Donna Ballard Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:24:00am |
re: #535 sattv4u2
Whats next ,,, the Olympic Rock/Paper/Scissors competition!?!!?
/
Very funny! Upding for you!
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Ericus58 Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:24:14am |
re: #520 Spider Mensch
not hating the competitors or events, I just wish they didn’t play up the theatrics so much. and I’d like to see a more balanced coverage, but as I said I blame the media because it’s all about tv ratings. But it’s all in good sport and competition and it’s a topic for conversation. I’m allowed an opinion. if you don’t like it, tough..
Playing to ratings is what the media does. I”ve found the coverage on MSNBC to be much more enjoyable to watch due to less side-bar interviews and stories (I did enjoy the story on the blind Husky sled dog on NBC though last night).
Awww, now why did you have to end your post with the brush-off….
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Donna Ballard Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:24:39am |
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Spider Mensch Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:24:58am |
re: #529 ggt
To drink lots of beer and manage not to fall on the ice?
I mentioned it’s like shuffleboard, it’s really like bar shuffleboard, or “weights” as the game was called in the drinking establishments I used to frequent. popular in neighberhood bars here in the Northeast, not so sure about elsewhere.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:26:30am |
re: #540 Spider Mensch
We have shuffleboard down here. The uniforms are white pants, white shoes, white belt and a plaid shirt.
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:26:50am |
re: #540 Spider Mensch
I mentioned it’s like shuffleboard, it’s really like bar shuffleboard, or “weights” as the game was called in the drinking establishments I used to frequent. popular in neighberhood bars here in the Northeast, not so sure about elsewhere.
I thought it was more like bowling on ice with help.
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Donna Ballard Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:27:03am |
re: #536 ggt
It’s morning.
Oh so serious! Smile! :-) You up, your walking (I assume) and your healthy! (I’m assuming again) whats not to celebrate? Every day I can get out of bed and function normally is a day to celebrate to me! :-)
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:27:39am |
re: #543 Dragon_Lady
Oh so serious! Smile! :-) You up, your walking (I assume) and your healthy! (I’m assuming again) whats not to celebrate? Every day I can get out of bed and function normally is a day to celebrate to me! :-)
You are a morning person, eh?
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Varek Raith Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:28:05am |
re: #543 Dragon_Lady
Oh so serious! Smile! :-) You up, your walking (I assume) and your healthy! (I’m assuming again) whats not to celebrate? Every day I can get out of bed and function normally is a day to celebrate to me! :-)
Positive energy is toxic to my vampire physiology.
/;)
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Boondock St. Bender Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:28:43am |
re: #542 ggt
if only you could combine the curling with the figure skating….now that i would watch.
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:29:18am |
re: #546 Boondock St. Bender
if only you could combine the curling with the figure skating…now that i would watch.
knock down 10 skaters for a strike?
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sattv4u2 Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:29:27am |
re: #520 Spider Mensch
I just wish they didn’t play up the theatrics so much.
Years ago, they just showed the events, the sport itself. That mostly played to male audiences. to increase viewership they give the human side of the stories to entice women to watch who normally wouldn’t be interested in much more than the skating venues
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Donna Ballard Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:29:50am |
re: #544 ggt
You are a morning person, eh?
Not really, I’m a realist. I have so much to be thankful for, like being able to walk, that I have to celebrate each and every day like it was my last. :-)
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:30:06am |
re: #547 ggt
knock down 10 skaters for a strike?
My wife complains when I say I only watch figure skating for the crashes, but you have to admit - sometimes it’s spectacular. The only thing that gets me is the pitiful looks on their faces after they realize they’ve blown the biggest event of their career.
| 551 |
FemNaziBitch Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:30:43am |
re: #547 ggt
knock down 10 skaters for a strike?
While the skaters are moving? Bank the stone off the sides, it would be like pool.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:30:46am |
re: #546 Boondock St. Bender
if only you could combine the curling with the figure skating…now that i would watch.
How about combining paint ball guns and ice dancing… the spectators get the paint ball gun… and the spectators are part of the competition?
| 553 |
Boondock St. Bender Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:31:25am |
re: #547 ggt
yeah something like that.
“Ohhh…that triple axel ended badly!”
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Donna Ballard Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:31:27am |
re: #545 Varek Raith
Positive energy is toxic to my vampire physiology.
/;)
Poor Baby! You bein abused again? // Smile! let me see those sharp and pointy pearly whites gleam!
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sattv4u2 Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:31:35am |
FULL CONTACT CURLING
As the rock is sliding down the ice, and your teammates are brushing furiously to help it, the OTHER team gets to take their brooms and whack you!
So the cunundrum becomes, do we use our brooms to help our rock or to defend ourselves !?!?!
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Stonemason Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:32:21am |
re: #548 sattv4u2
How many years ago though, I am 43, I remember making fun of the ‘up close and personal’ interviews in the 1970’s. There needs to be filler for some people to watch, much like some people need to have a wager on a football game to be able to watch.
| 559 |
Donna Ballard Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:33:00am |
re: #550 thedopefishlives
My wife complains when I say I only watch figure skating for the crashes, but you have to admit - sometimes it’s spectacular. The only thing that gets me is the pitiful looks on their faces after they realize they’ve blown the biggest event of their career.
Personally I like to watch the men’s figure skating. The jumps are mind boggling and the bodies in motion are rather , shall we say remarkable?
| 560 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:33:28am |
How about the “is there snow on the other side of this ski jump to land on?”
| 561 |
Varek Raith Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:33:36am |
Repost, Red vs. Blue - The Winter Lames.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:33:39am |
re: #557 Stonemason
How many years ago though, I am 43, I remember making fun of the ‘up close and personal’ interviews in the 1970’s. There needs to be filler for some people to watch, much like some people need to have a wager on a football game to be able to watch.
I’m 56. Yes, jim McKay would do some “up close and personals”, but they were few and far between. Mostly “THE” American Olympic story of that year
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Donna Ballard Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:34:30am |
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Stonemason Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:34:47am |
re: #562 sattv4u2
Ahhh, but they alaways happened at a pivitol moment (most of the games were tape delayed) and it drove my father and me nuts!
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:35:09am |
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:35:55am |
re: #562 sattv4u2
I’m 56. Yes, jim McKay would do some “up close and personals”, but they were few and far between. Mostly “THE” American Olympic story of that year
I think everyone here know that Jim McKay is a registered Lizard here. He also divides his time now a days between Denver and Wy.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:36:22am |
re: #550 thedopefishlives
My wife complains when I say I only watch figure skating for the crashes, but you have to admit - sometimes it’s spectacular. The only thing that gets me is the pitiful looks on their faces after they realize they’ve blown the biggest event of their career.
The ski and bobsled crashes are way more spectacular. The figure skating falls are just embarrassing.
| 568 |
Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:37:15am |
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Boondock St. Bender Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:38:02am |
re: #566 Walter L. Newton
i loved when he hit a golf ball over the great wall of china.how many people can say they did that?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:38:48am |
re: #567 Alouette
The ski and bobsled crashes are way more spectacular. The figure skating falls are just embarrassing.
I saw a story where there was another crash on the luge track (or whatever it’s called) that the one guy died on. Can’t remember where I saw it.
| 572 |
cliffster Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:38:50am |
re: #568 Killgore Trout
Pelosi is spewing her bullshit, having sat through Alexander go past his allotted time to spew his bullshit.
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Spider Mensch Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:38:50am |
re: #565 Mad Al-Jaffee
Tiddly Winks
if they can get people to enthusiastically watch animated beer bottles playing football, during breaks in a real football game, anything is in the realm of possibilities…
| 575 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:40:00am |
re: #574 Mad Al-Jaffee
When did Carrot Top become an athlete?
From what I gather, he has always been into that buff, exercise stuff, but he wasn’t as public about it until now.
| 576 |
Donna Ballard Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:40:12am |
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Boondock St. Bender Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:40:17am |
re: #574 Mad Al-Jaffee
the more muscle you have the funnier you ain’t(ask joe piscapo)
| 578 |
Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:40:35am |
My new granddaughter’s name is Chaya Moussia.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:40:36am |
re: #572 cliffster
Pelosi is spewing her bullshit, having sat through Alexander go past his allotted time to spew his bullshit.
Yeah, Dopey Joe Biden is there too. I might not stick with this very long. It looks like prepared speeches.
| 581 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:41:20am |
re: #576 Dragon_Lady
Strange. Funny but very strange.
It’s a funny strip. The cartoonist is very liberal, but I still like her work. She was at the wedding of one of my best friends a couple of years ago, but I didn’t meet her. Didn’t even know there was a “celebrity” there.
| 582 |
Varek Raith Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:41:26am |
re: #578 Alouette
Congrats! How many do you have?
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brennant Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:41:33am |
re: #579 Killgore Trout
I am tending to the agree to the prepared speech part. I am hoping some real dialog starts
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Donna Ballard Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:41:52am |
re: #574 Mad Al-Jaffee
When did Carrot Top become an athlete?
Looks like him a bit don’t he? I think Shaun White is cuter though…
| 585 |
Boondock St. Bender Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:41:54am |
re: #579 Killgore Trout
as we all know joe works best “by the seat of his pants”
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:41:57am |
re: #574 Mad Al-Jaffee
When did Carrot Top become an athlete?
Wait… that’s not Carrot Top… but here is buffed Carrot Top…
Maybe not safe for anyone…
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cliffster Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:42:12am |
re: #579 Killgore Trout
Yeah, Dopey Joe Biden is there too. I might not stick with this very long. It looks like prepared speeches.
Well, it is right now, but I think they’re doing opening statements. Give it an hour or so
| 589 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:42:36am |
re: #584 Dragon_Lady
Looks like him a bit don’t he? I think Shaun White is cuter though…
Carrot Top is a body builder…
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Donna Ballard Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:42:47am |
re: #586 Walter L. Newton
Wait… that’s not Carrot Top… but here is buffed Carrot Top…
Maybe not safe for anyone…
[Link: pentacles.files.wordpress.com…]
Oh gee thanks! Now I’m gonna have nightmares tonight!//
| 592 |
subsailor68 Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:43:08am |
Morning all! Saw the snail joke up-thread and it reminded me of another one:
Guy’s sitting in his chair when there’s a knock at the door. He opens the door, looks around, doesn’t see anything.
He goes back to his chair, when there’s another knock at the door. He opens it, looks around, doesn’t see anything. Then he happens to look down, and sees a snail on the stoop. He picks it up and throws it as hard as he can.
A year later, the guy’s sitting in his chair and there’s a knock at the door. He opens it, looks around, doesn’t see anything. He looks down, and there’s the snail.
And the snail says, “What the hell was that all about?”
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cliffster Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:43:23am |
re: #574 Mad Al-Jaffee
When did Carrot Top become an athlete?
I don’t know what you sent, but I do know that he is fucking buff now.
Gotta love steroids
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Varek Raith Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:43:28am |
re: #591 Dragon_Lady
Oh gee thanks! Now I’m gonna have nightmares tonight!//
Laugh at my comedy routine…or else!
/
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:43:58am |
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:44:46am |
re: #593 cliffster
I don’t know what you sent, but I do know that he is fucking buff now.
Gotta love steroids
This is Carrot Top, the other picture wasn’t… only looked a bit like him…
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Donna Ballard Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:45:19am |
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Donna Ballard Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:46:13am |
re: #595 Alouette
This makes 25 grandbabies for me and Zedushka.
Oh my goodness! You have your own private population explosion! WOW! Impressive!
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:46:19am |
Wait, so Carrot Top didn’t change his name to Shaun White and become a snowboarder?! Next you’re gonna tell me the Easter Bunny isn’t real and I’ll never get my hope and change unicorn!
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Ericus58 Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:46:23am |
re: #579 Killgore Trout
Yeah, Dopey Joe Biden is there too. I might not stick with this very long. It looks like prepared speeches.
Now THIS is theatrics in action by all….
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cliffster Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:46:34am |
re: #597 Walter L. Newton
This is Carrot Top, the other picture wasn’t… only looked a bit like him…
[Link: pentacles.files.wordpress.com…]
That’s the third time you’ve sent that link. I don’t mean to beat a dead horse, but I’m really starting to wonder about you! ;)
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:47:12am |
re: #602 cliffster
That’s the third time you’ve sent that link. I don’t mean to beat a dead horse, but I’m really starting to wonder about you! ;)
Did you see Carrot Top?
| 604 |
Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:47:36am |
Harry Reid = Les Nessman
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:49:18am |
re: #604 Killgore Trout
Harry Reid = Les Nessman
Harry Reid- knows pork
Les Nessman- knows pork belly futures.
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Donna Ballard Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:49:30am |
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cliffster Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:49:42am |
re: #603 Walter L. Newton
Did you see Carrot Top?
Yeah, and I’ve been seeing pictures for a while now. The guy is beefed up.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:50:11am |
re: #490 Cato the Elder
What time? I’m supposed to go to a kid’s birthday party and bring Haku for entertainment, but that’s in the afternoon.
That sounds much better than a guy who makes balloon animals.
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gregb Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:50:40am |
I know everyone’s talking about the healthcare summit, but are they going to have beer there?
On other drink news….
[Link: www.forbes.com…]
I think it’s interesting that people confuse cause and effect. I had a nice conversation the other year with the guy who launched bmwfilms. He told me the reason they launched the site is that independent of rational consumer choices about cost and features, the number one factor for buying their cars is “lifestyle association”. So, now I have to make a lifestyle association about my politics if I want to buy a McCafe, Dunkin Donuts, or Starbucks in the morning?
I got downdinged for a “slouching towards a totalitarian democracy” post long ago, but isn’t that the very essence?
I’m gonna need some more coffee. :-)
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Donna Ballard Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:52:52am |
re: #609 gregb
I know everyone’s talking about the healthcare summit, but are they going to have beer there?
On other drink news…
[Link: www.forbes.com…]I think it’s interesting that people confuse cause and effect. I had a nice conversation the other year with the guy who launched bmwfilms. He told me the reason they launched the site is that independent of rational consumer choices about cost and features, the number one factor for buying their cars is “lifestyle association”. So, now I have to make a lifestyle association about my politics if I want to buy a McCafe, Dunkin Donuts, or Starbucks in the morning?
I got downdinged for a “slouching towards a totalitarian democracy” post long ago, but isn’t that the very essence?
I’m gonna need some more coffee. :-)
I finally found a beer that I can tolerate with out gagging! Leinenkugels Sunset Wheat. RWC’s so proud… Normally I can’t even smell the stuff but this ones not bad!
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:53:38am |
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:53:42am |
re: #608 SanFranciscoZionist
That sounds much better than a guy who makes balloon animals.
Whoa… I use to do balloon animals at kids BD parties… I was Apples the Clown… good money in it. Now we are going to have a thread making fun of balloon animal tiers?
What next… chalk talk artists? Damn… why don’t you just go down the guest list of any airing of the Ed Sullivan show. You can find all sorts of variety artist to make fun of. (hands off Senor Wences).
Geeessshhhh.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:55:06am |
re: #612 Walter L. Newton
Whoa… I use to do balloon animals at kids BD parties… I was Apples the (hands off Senor Wences).
Geeessshhh.
S’Aright?
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jaunte Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:55:12am |
re: #609 gregb
independent of rational consumer choices about cost and features, the number one factor for buying their cars is “lifestyle association”.
There are doubtless some evolutionary signals about ‘fitness to mate and protect offspring’ going on with those consumer choices too.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:57:24am |
re: #600 Mad Al-Jaffee
Wait, so Carrot Top didn’t change his name to Shaun White and become a snowboarder?! Next you’re gonna tell me the Easter Bunny isn’t real and I’ll never get my hope and change unicorn!
I actually think White is very good-looking in a sort of quirky way.
And the hair is spectacular.
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gregb Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:57:56am |
re: #610 Dragon_Lady
Thx, will try it.
I’ve access to so many exotic beers, but my allergies seem to prevent enjoying most of them.
For example, they just launched the new angel’s share special edition. I can’t drink any of it, but love it to death.
[Link: www.lostabbey.com…]
| 617 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:58:49am |
re: #612 Walter L. Newton
Whoa… I use to do balloon animals at kids BD parties… I was Apples the Clown… good money in it. Now we are going to have a thread making fun of balloon animal tiers?
What next… chalk talk artists? Damn… why don’t you just go down the guest list of any airing of the Ed Sullivan show. You can find all sorts of variety artist to make fun of. (hands off Senor Wences).
Geeessshhh.
Walter, I apologize for insulting your art, but to my mind, a dog beats pretty much everything.
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cliffster Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:59:14am |
re: #614 jaunte
There are doubtless some evolutionary signals about ‘fitness to mate and protect offspring’ going on with those consumer choices too.
well said
| 620 |
Political Atheist Thu, Feb 25, 2010 7:59:37am |
Latest on California Elections
GOP Senate race grows heated over Israel
Fiorina and DeVore question Campbell’s level of commitment to the U.S. ally. Former Secretary of State George P. Shultz calls Campbell’s support for the nation ‘unwavering.’
The two other major Republican primary contestants, former businesswoman Carly Fiorina and Orange County Assemblyman Chuck DeVore, have launched criticisms of Campbell. The rhetoric has grown so heated that a prominent supporter of Campbell’s has accused Fiorina’s campaign manager of calling Campbell an “anti-Semite.” The campaign manager denies the accusation.
SNIP
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gregb Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:00:00am |
re: #610 Dragon_Lady
Just to follow up:
Angel’s Share Grand Cru.
A blend of the best barrels from 2006 - 2009
$100/bottle if you can get one.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:00:47am |
I was wondering which tactic the Republicans were going to use. It’s looks like they’re going to stick with easily debunked talking points. If they continue they’re going to get pwned again.
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brennant Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:01:30am |
re: #622 Killgore Trout
Agreed… add in the President having to talk over you is not good for either party.
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cliffster Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:01:30am |
Hmmmm, cut people off, then change the subject and don’t let them respond to what they said. Nice debate tactic
| 625 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:02:07am |
re: #613 Mad Al-Jaffee
S’Aright?
Yea… ok… I’m sorry… it’s just that I get emotional about these things. Do you know how many plate spinners and ventriloquists and insult artist and all sort of other variety artists are out of work?
Check those people you call “street people” roaming around the alleys and dumpsters of your city. If you ask them, you will find out that many of them are ex-variety artist who have been put out of a job because of things like MTV and American Idol.
How can a balloon animal tier compete with a Janet Jackson wardrobe malfunction? Do you know how many trained poodle acts were put out of work by PETA?
So, be kind to old variety artists. You never know when you may need one. And if birthday clowns ever become popular again, you certainly don’t want one that you abused when they were a bum to come back to your kids birthday party and terrorize the little jerks.
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Varek Raith Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:02:10am |
re: #622 Killgore Trout
I was wondering which tactic the Republicans were going to use. It’s looks like they’re going to stick with easily debunked talking points. If they continue they’re going to get pwned again.
The R’s definition of insanity winning is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.
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Donna Ballard Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:03:08am |
re: #616 gregb
Thx, will try it.
I’ve access to so many exotic beers, but my allergies seem to prevent enjoying most of them.
For example, they just launched the new angel’s share special edition. I can’t drink any of it, but love it to death.
[Link: www.lostabbey.com…]
It’s sweeter and fruitier than most beers, and a lot less hoppy. I can’t even stand the smell of hoppy beers, got sick (*shutter*) as a youngster on the stuff and haven’t been able to stand it since. I’ve found the wheat bears, especially the honey wheat’s, are a lot more tolerable to my palate. They are also less bitter. And since it’s made here in the U.S. I don’t feel guilty about drinking a foreign beer.
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brennant Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:03:13am |
Woo - now they won’t talk their points in public. C’mon!
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:03:23am |
re: #620 Rightwingconspirator
Latest on California Elections
GOP Senate race grows heated over Israel
Fiorina and DeVore question Campbell’s level of commitment to the U.S. ally. Former Secretary of State George P. Shultz calls Campbell’s support for the nation ‘unwavering.’The two other major Republican primary contestants, former businesswoman Carly Fiorina and Orange County Assemblyman Chuck DeVore, have launched criticisms of Campbell. The rhetoric has grown so heated that a prominent supporter of Campbell’s has accused Fiorina’s campaign manager of calling Campbell an “anti-Semite.” The campaign manager denies the accusation.
SNIP
Meanwhile, Moonbeam is…well, not out there.
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wrenchwench Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:03:25am |
| 633 |
Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:03:49am |
re: #626 Varek Raith
The R’s definition of
insanitywinning is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.
I thought for sure they’d try something different. There’s a lot of insurance and pharmaceutical company money, I would have thought they were going to come up with something better.
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Donna Ballard Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:04:04am |
re: #621 gregb
Just to follow up:
Angel’s Share Grand Cru.
A blend of the best barrels from 2006 - 2009$100/bottle if you can get one.
A little outta my price range right now, but it sounds interesting!
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Silvergirl Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:04:31am |
re: #618 Killgore Trout
Ok, it’s getting interesting now.
I’m not going to watch unless you tell me they’re making balloon animals.
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Varek Raith Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:04:36am |
| 641 |
Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:05:58am |
Oh, no. It looks like the Republicans are going to appeal to their base with buzzwords and stupid talking points. They aren’t going to come off looking very good.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:06:41am |
re: #639 MikeySDCA
My respectful nickname for the Beloved Leader. Biden is Thumper.
And Cheney…well, I guess we know.
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Political Atheist Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:06:41am |
re: #629 SanFranciscoZionist
Laying low early to spend his few $$ in the General I’m guessing.
[Link: www.jerrybrown.org…]
Thanks for reminding me to keep an eye on the Dem side of the aisle.
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Political Atheist Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:07:25am |
re: #627 Dragon_Lady
It’s sweeter and fruitier than most beers, and a lot less hoppy. I can’t even stand the smell of hoppy beers, got sick (*shutter*) as a youngster on the stuff and haven’t been able to stand it since. I’ve found the wheat bears, especially the honey wheat’s, are a lot more tolerable to my palate. They are also less bitter. And since it’s made here in the U.S. I don’t feel guilty about drinking a foreign beer.
Shutter?
| 645 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:07:38am |
re: #641 Killgore Trout
Oh, no. It looks like the Republicans are going to appeal to their base with buzzwords and stupid talking points. They aren’t going to come off looking very good.
Then I would advise that everyone stop watching, they cancel the conference and Obama get back over to the White House and just sign the damn bill, why waste time with democracy.
| 646 |
Varek Raith Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:07:59am |
re: #642 SanFranciscoZionist
And Cheney…well, I guess we know.
Do not refer to him as a Sith. Please. Demeans our badass heritage.
/;)
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Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:08:54am |
I don’t know much about Mayor Bing of Detroit, but I will say this:
His neighborhood “triage” proposal might be just the ticket to save what’s left of Detroit; he’ll face opposition from all sides on this proposal, but the idea of contracting and concentrating the areas serviced by the City makes a Hell of a lot of sense.
Hat tip to the man, for being bold enough to recommend something so intellingent:
[Link: www.detnews.com…]
I know I wouldn’t want his job, that’s for damned sure.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:09:05am |
re: #646 Varek Raith
Do not refer to him as a Sith. Please. Demeans our badass heritage.
/;)
No, I thought he would be the guy with the gun who shoots Bambi’s mother.
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Varek Raith Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:09:10am |
re: #645 Walter L. Newton
Then I would advise that everyone stop watching, they cancel the conference and Obama get back over to the White House and just sign the damn bill, why waste time with democracy.
I’m more annoyed with them wasting my time with bullshit talking points and platitudes.
| 650 |
Donna Ballard Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:09:26am |
re: #644 Rightwingconspirator
Shutter?
Yup! Bad memories of that event have my poor tummy rejecting all beer except the wheats. As you very well know! :-P
| 651 |
gregb Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:09:27am |
re: #641 Killgore Trout
I think the problem is that they are still talking past each other.
Democrats want a plan to insure another 30 million. A secondary effect is that some percentage of emergency room cost and impaction will reduce, thus reducing the occurrences of the most expensive treatments. This would be combined with non-market cost controls.
Republicans want reduced costs independent of expanded coverage.
The two goals seem to overlap only by a little.
| 652 |
Varek Raith Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:09:34am |
re: #648 SanFranciscoZionist
No, I thought he would be the guy with the gun who shoots Bambi’s mother.
Oh…went right over my head.
;)
| 653 |
Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:09:53am |
re: #648 SanFranciscoZionist
No, I thought he would be the guy with the gun who shoots Bambi’s mother.
No, Cheney shoots lawyers. It’s easy to get these things mixed up, though.
| 654 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:10:17am |
| 656 |
Donna Ballard Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:11:10am |
re: #646 Varek Raith
Do not refer to him as a Sith. Please. Demeans our badass heritage.
/;)
Oh Varek, I just clicked on your avatar and I love it! Its perfect! LOL!
| 657 |
Spider Mensch Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:12:08am |
re: #645 Walter L. Newton
Then I would advise that everyone stop watching, they cancel the conference and Obama get back over to the White House and just sign the damn bill, why waste time with democracy.
yup, doesn’t everyone like having their arms twisted behind their backs and made to accept things? They don’t? well they better get used to it…remember the one twisting your arm behind your back knows whats good for you…now you all shut up and take your medicine…lol..excuse the medicine pun…lol
| 658 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:12:25am |
re: #649 Varek Raith
I’m more annoyed with them wasting my time with bullshit talking points and platitudes.
I’m not listening or watching. This is nothing more than a media event, being used by both sides to make browny points. Nothing that passes across the table is going to change either sides positions or policy.
| 659 |
Silvergirl Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:12:31am |
On the summit—Have they told any of those sob stories yet? The ones based on true stories, but dramatized for prime time?
| 660 |
Varek Raith Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:13:28am |
WTH? My cable just went out… Damn you, Comcast! :shakes fist:
Sigh.
| 661 |
Varek Raith Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:13:49am |
re: #658 Walter L. Newton
I’m not listening or watching. This is nothing more than a media event, being used by both sides to make browny points. Nothing that passes across the table is going to change either sides positions or policy.
QFT.
| 663 |
cliffster Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:14:20am |
blah, blah, blah, blah. I hate almost every person in that room. Pretending to debate; making a fucking public spectacle to sugarcoat how they are going to go make all their rich buddies even richer, and make us pay for it. Fuck them.
| 665 |
Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:14:43am |
So, a fellow from back east is out in Texas, shooting quail. One of the birds he pots lands inside a rancher’s fence and back easter prepares to hop the wire and retrieve his bird.
Rancher’s there. “Now hold up a minute, sir,” sez he. “That bird’s on my land. It’s mine, unless I give it to you.”
Back easter sez: “Listen, buddy, I’m a lawyer, and where I’m from, we settle these things with a little negotiation and such. Let’s talk about it.”
Rancher: “Fellow, out here in Texas, we don’t use lawyers or such like. We settle it like men.”
Back easter: “Ok, how do we do it?” Back easter is 20 years younger and a hell of a lot stronger than the rancher.
Rancher explains: Each man gets to land 3 blows on the other, Rancher, as the oldest, goes first.
He walks up to back-easter, toe-kicks him in the groin, drives his knee into the guy’s face, and boots him once in the ribs at full-force.
Back easter staggers to his feet, wipes blood away and fixes his eyes with deadly intent on the rancher.
Rancher sez: “Ya know what? The bird’s all yours, son. You win.”
| 666 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:14:55am |
re: #659 Silvergirl
On the summit—Have they told any of those sob stories yet? The ones based on true stories, but dramatized for prime time?
You can’t have a healthcare debate without ‘em. No one can resist. And there’s always one to suit whatever point you’re making.
| 667 |
Varek Raith Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:15:20am |
| 668 |
Obdicut Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:16:15am |
re: #659 Silvergirl
I don’t think calling real pain and suffering ‘sob stories’ is a very nice thing to do. Sob story normally implies that it’s made up.
There is really no need to dramatize a lot of stories of struggles with insurance companies. For example, a friend of mine has a fucked-up wrist that needs re-constructive surgery, but his insurance won’t pay for it. They’ll only pay for pain meds. So he gets to slowly develop an addiction while suffering.
Do you consider that a ‘sob story’?
| 669 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:16:59am |
re: #665 Guanxi88
Reminds me of Cartman’s game “Roshamboo” on South Park.
| 670 |
Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:18:02am |
re: #668 Obdicut
I don’t think calling real pain and suffering ‘sob stories’ is a very nice thing to do. Sob story normally implies that it’s made up.
There is really no need to dramatize a lot of stories of struggles with insurance companies. For example, a friend of mine has a fucked-up wrist that needs re-constructive surgery, but his insurance won’t pay for it. They’ll only pay for pain meds. So he gets to slowly develop an addiction while suffering.
Do you consider that a ‘sob story’?
I think ‘sob story’ generally means a tale - true or not, it hardly matters - shared with the intent to evoke emotion in order to manipulate the hearer into a course of action to the benefit of the one telling the tale.
| 673 |
Obdicut Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:19:21am |
re: #670 Guanxi88
Sure. So it’s the most negative way you could describe people talking about their actual experiences and problems with our current health insurance system. It implies the story might be true, might not be, and the person telling it is only doing so for their benefit, not to actually inform.
| 674 |
Silvergirl Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:19:37am |
re: #668 Obdicut
I don’t think calling real pain and suffering ‘sob stories’ is a very nice thing to do. Sob story normally implies that it’s made up.
There is really no need to dramatize a lot of stories of struggles with insurance companies. For example, a friend of mine has a fucked-up wrist that needs re-constructive surgery, but his insurance won’t pay for it. They’ll only pay for pain meds. So he gets to slowly develop an addiction while suffering.
Do you consider that a ‘sob story’?
Of course not! There’s really no need to assume heartlessness on my part.
I was making the point that these stories are told not so much out of pity or concern for the people involved, but simply to reinforce the argument. As we have seen, many of these stories that have been told have been grossly exaggerated until they no longer resemble the original.
| 675 |
Obdicut Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:19:57am |
| 676 |
Silvergirl Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:20:11am |
re: #666 SanFranciscoZionist
You can’t have a healthcare debate without ‘em. No one can resist. And there’s always one to suit whatever point you’re making.
You have that exactly right, SFZ.
| 677 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:21:09am |
re: #675 Obdicut
just curious. Is it an old sports injury or something?
| 678 |
Obdicut Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:21:15am |
re: #674 Silvergirl
As I said, there’s really no reason to exaggerate. There are plenty of absolutely fucking heartbreaking stories out there. If the stories being told are exaggerated, they don’t have to be.
And ‘sob story’ is dismissive.
| 679 |
Donna Ballard Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:21:31am |
re: #668 Obdicut
I don’t think calling real pain and suffering ‘sob stories’ is a very nice thing to do. Sob story normally implies that it’s made up.
There is really no need to dramatize a lot of stories of struggles with insurance companies. For example, a friend of mine has a fucked-up wrist that needs re-constructive surgery, but his insurance won’t pay for it. They’ll only pay for pain meds. So he gets to slowly develop an addiction while suffering.
Do you consider that a ‘sob story’?
I agree! I have found that most people do not get the chronic pain phenomenon, if you look normal even though you suffer from chronic pain you must be a hypochondriac. I have seen that look in a lot of faces, especially former bosses and co-workers and let me tell you is infuriating to know that no matter what you say they wont believe you. I have even taken copies of Doctors reports to former bosses and they still don’t believe me. Sob story indeed! Makes me mad to this day. Okay rant over. :-)
| 681 |
Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:21:48am |
re: #673 Obdicut
Sure. So it’s the most negative way you could describe people talking about their actual experiences and problems with our current health insurance system. It implies the story might be true, might not be, and the person telling it is only doing so for their benefit, not to actually inform.
Well, yeah, that’s why it’s called what it is. The truth of the tale hardly matters one way or another. No one listens to such talk in order to be informed about the matters involved - they listen to be moved by it.
It’s human nature, after all, to attempt to put an individual face or story to a larger problem, in order to give a sense of scale or perspective to a thing too abstract to be understood otherwise.
Then again, there’s hardly any point in pretending that the stories aren’t presented with the intent of swaying the audience, on the basis of an emotional appeal, to some action or other.
| 682 |
Obdicut Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:22:06am |
re: #677 Cannadian Club Akbar
No, it’s a recent injury from a home accident. He can use the wrist just fine, he just has a lot of pain, so they consider surgery to fix that pain elective surgery, since the pain can be controlled with meds.
And surgery is far more expensive than the meds are.
| 683 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:22:36am |
re: #668 Obdicut
[snip]
Sob story normally implies that it’s made up.
[snip]
Where is that rule? You just make things up, don’t you?
| 684 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:22:40am |
re: #674 Silvergirl
Of course not! There’s really no need to assume heartlessness on my part.
I was making the point that these stories are told not so much out of pity or concern for the people involved, but simply to reinforce the argument. As we have seen, many of these stories that have been told have been grossly exaggerated until they no longer resemble the original.
They also come from both sides of the aisle. There’s a special category of stories set in Canada or Britain, where something HAPPENED that happens every day in the United States as well, but which is meant to scare you away from anything that could ever even start to lead to ‘socialized medicine’.
| 685 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:23:12am |
re: #682 Obdicut
No, it’s a recent injury from a home accident. He can use the wrist just fine, he just has a lot of pain, so they consider surgery to fix that pain elective surgery, since the pain can be controlled with meds.
And surgery is far more expensive than the meds are.
I would recommend going to a regular doctor and seeing if cortisone shots would help.
| 686 |
Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:23:47am |
re: #679 Dragon_Lady
I agree! I have found that most people do not get the chronic pain phenomenon, if you look normal even though you suffer from chronic pain you must be a hypochondriac. I have seen that look in a lot of faces, especially former bosses and co-workers and let me tell you is infuriating to know that no matter what you say they wont believe you. I have even taken copies of Doctors reports to former bosses and they still don’t believe me. Sob story indeed! Makes me mad to this day. Okay rant over. :-)
The existence Chronic Pain is one of the hardest things to persuade people of. At one of my gigs, we see a TON of clients for nothing but this - they’re treated like they’re hysterical or hypochondriacs - as you noted - bu these people are suffering, and suffering big-time.
| 687 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:24:59am |
re: #678 Obdicut
As I said, there’s really no reason to exaggerate. There are plenty of absolutely fucking heartbreaking stories out there. If the stories being told are exaggerated, they don’t have to be.
And ‘sob story’ is dismissive.
“sob story (plural sob stories) (idiomatic) A sad story, especially one intended elicit sympathy.”
Gee, nothing there about making it up, is there. Or does your definition only appear in the Obdicut Rhetoric Dictionary?
| 688 |
Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:25:01am |
re: #682 Obdicut
No, it’s a recent injury from a home accident. He can use the wrist just fine, he just has a lot of pain, so they consider surgery to fix that pain elective surgery, since the pain can be controlled with meds.
And surgery is far more expensive than the meds are.
Acupuncture has some remarkable effects for chronic pain. It can’t treat the underlying condition, but it’s a damned sight cheaper than medication, and isn’t addictive.
| 689 |
Donna Ballard Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:25:14am |
re: #682 Obdicut
No, it’s a recent injury from a home accident. He can use the wrist just fine, he just has a lot of pain, so they consider surgery to fix that pain elective surgery, since the pain can be controlled with meds.
And surgery is far more expensive than the meds are.
I feel for you friend! Insurance company’s can be self-centered S.O.B.’s! Who care if the patient is in pain! Were not putting money out just because he say’s he hurts! Sanctimonious S.O.B.’s.
| 690 |
albusteve Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:25:44am |
re: #686 Guanxi88
The existence Chronic Pain is one of the hardest things to persuade people of. At one of my gigs, we see a TON of clients for nothing but this - they’re treated like they’re hysterical or hypochondriacs - as you noted - bu these people are suffering, and suffering big-time.
I’m convinced
| 691 |
Obdicut Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:26:14am |
re: #681 Guanxi88
No one listens to such talk in order to be informed about the matters involved - they listen to be moved by it.
See, I knew your interwebs psychiatry degree would come in handy.
Then again, there’s hardly any point in pretending that the stories aren’t presented with the intent of swaying the audience, on the basis of an emotional appeal, to some action or other.
Of course they are. When we’re talking about pain, suffering, and health, we’re talking about emotional subjects. That doesn’t mean that the stories can’t communicate real, actual problems with the health insurance setup in this country, nor does it mean these stories are useless for informing us about possible solutions.
For example, one of the reasons in the above example that the insurance company is not fixing my friend’s wrist is they have no particular reason to believe he’ll be on their insurance forever. Extended out twenty years, it’d probably be cheaper for them to pay for the surgery and not the meds, but since he’ll probably eventually switch jobs and switch insurance, it can be someone else’s problem.
Thinking about that can lead you, whatever your feelings are about health insurance, to a realization that in the current setups insurance companies delaying the providing of care can often mean that they don’t have to actually pay for the care. So, you could reasonably conclude that as long as patients switch between insurances as they do now, insurance companies have an economic incentive to provide short-term rather than long-term solutions.
| 692 |
Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:26:17am |
re: #689 Dragon_Lady
I feel for you friend! Insurance company’s can be self-centered S.O.B.’s! Who care if the patient is in pain! Were not putting money out just because he say’s he hurts! Sanctimonious S.O.B.’s.
Some of the steadiest clients acupuncturists by me see are chronic pain cases rejected by insurers. It does work much of the time, and it gives these poor people real relief.
| 693 |
Donna Ballard Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:26:53am |
re: #686 Guanxi88
The existence Chronic Pain is one of the hardest things to persuade people of. At one of my gigs, we see a TON of clients for nothing but this - they’re treated like they’re hysterical or hypochondriacs - as you noted - bu these people are suffering, and suffering big-time.
Now you understand why I celebrate every day I can get out of bed. To me everyday I can move without pain is a miracle, and there are darn few of those. :-)
| 694 |
ShaunP Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:26:59am |
re: #687 Walter L. Newton
“sob story (plural sob stories) (idiomatic) A sad story, especially one intended elicit sympathy.”
Gee, nothing there about making it up, is there. Or does your definition only appear in the Obdicut Rhetoric Dictionary?
Words sometimes have additional meaning beyond what’s in the dictionary. How about this, use the term “sob story” in a positive way…
| 695 |
Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:27:33am |
re: #690 albusteve
I’m convinced
Then you’re easily persuaded, in which case, I’ve got an investment opportunity for you….
| 696 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:28:08am |
re: #695 Guanxi88
Then you’re easily persuaded, in which case, I’ve got an investment opportunity for you…
Or he lives with chronic pain.
| 697 |
Obdicut Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:28:08am |
re: #683 Walter L. Newton
Dictionary definitions are available for you to look up at no cost, you know. They won’t charge you a dime.
[Link: dictionary.reference.com…]
| 698 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:28:20am |
re: #694 ShaunP
Words sometimes have additional meaning beyond what’s in the dictionary. How about this, use the term “sob story” in a positive way…
Connotation, children. Connotation.
| 699 |
Varek Raith Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:28:49am |
re: #693 Dragon_Lady
Now you understand why I celebrate every day I can get out of bed. To me everyday I can move without pain is a miracle, and there are darn few of those. :-)
*Dragon_Lady does 100d6 Positive energy damage to Varek*
*Dragon_Lady defeats the vampire Varek*
*Dragon_Lady gains 150XP*
/:)
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Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:28:58am |
re: #696 Cannadian Club Akbar
Or he lives with chronic pain.
It may also be. But I doubt my single anecdotal bit would be persuasive on its own. Now, if I had a congresscritter with me, looking grave and sympathetic….
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Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:30:28am |
re: #690 albusteve
I’m convinced
You got chronic pain, by any chance - sorry if it’s too intrusive a question.
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albusteve Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:30:34am |
re: #695 Guanxi88
Then you’re easily persuaded, in which case, I’ve got an investment opportunity for you…
I have less than 30% oxygen flow down my leg…from my knee to the tip of my barely alive toes there is a burning throb, 24/7….I didn’t need to be persuaded about anything
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Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:31:21am |
re: #702 albusteve
I have less than 30% oxygen flow down my leg…from my knee to the tip of my barely alive toes there is a burning throb, 24/7…I didn’t need to be persuaded about anything
Oh jeez! I had no frikkin’ idea. I thought you were ribbing me on my little bit of evangelism there. My apologies.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:31:28am |
re: #701 Guanxi88
You got chronic pain, by any chance - sorry if it’s too intrusive a question.
And I can back up what Steve has said, since I know he is speaking the truth, better than most Lizards.
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albusteve Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:32:20am |
re: #701 Guanxi88
You got chronic pain, by any chance - sorry if it’s too intrusive a question.
nothing intrusive about it…I’m not embarrassed
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Silvergirl Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:32:55am |
re: #694 ShaunP
Words sometimes have additional meaning beyond what’s in the dictionary. How about this, use the term “sob story” in a positive way…
I have about three minutes before I need to get ready for work, so this has to be quick—
Since I’m the one who brought ‘sob story’ into the discussion, I want to have you understand that way too much emotion and weight is being put into the term. I can love a movie I’ve watched and hand it to a friend and say, “Watchthis with a box of Kleenex cuz it’s a real tear-jerker.” I think it I had used tear-jerker in place of sob story, we would still have the same objections.
Must move on!
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Obdicut Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:33:21am |
re: #685 Cannadian Club Akbar
Dude— he’s gone to a doctor already. That is not the point. He has had steroid treatment— which is hardly without side effects— already. The diagnosis is that only re-constructive surgery will be effective in actually treating the pain, rather than controlling it.
The solution is known. The insurance company won’t pay for it. That’s the situation. And, instead of garnering sympathy for my friend, the point of this story is that insurance companies are market-driven to deliver short-term solutions rather than long-term ones, given the way health insurance is structured.
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Donna Ballard Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:34:00am |
re: #692 Guanxi88
Some of the steadiest clients acupuncturists by me see are chronic pain cases rejected by insurers. It does work much of the time, and it gives these poor people real relief.
Yeah it can help, some. In my experience they only last for a short while and to be honest with you I had an medical lab tech scare the heck outta me as a child and ever since I’m needle phobic, so acupuncture would be a subtle form of torture for me. Yeah, I know you can hardly feel the needles. But they are still needles! And as such keep them the heck away from me! Yuck!
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:34:08am |
re: #627 Dragon_Lady
Try to find a nice Berliner weisse if you can. My sister-in-law is not a beer drinker (and doesn’t handle alcohol well at all.) Had a dinner out at a restaurant in Rochester with her and my brother and she asked to sample my Berliner weisse, then a second time, then a third time. At that point I gave the whole thing to her and ordered another.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:34:25am |
re: #704 Walter L. Newton
And I can back up what Steve has said, since I know he is speaking the truth, better than most Lizards.
My wording was terrible in that statement. I don’t mean Steve know truth better than most Lizards, I meant I know Steve, personally, and I can back up what he is saying about having 24/7 pain.
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Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:34:33am |
re: #705 albusteve
nothing intrusive about it…I’m not embarrassed
Glad to know I didn’t embarrass on that. I’d hate to offend without intending to do so.
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Varek Raith Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:34:57am |
re: #710 MikeySDCA
I don’t think that’s what Walter was saying.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:35:43am |
re: #707 Obdicut
I only asked because I was wondering about a pain relief without pills. That’s all.
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Donna Ballard Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:36:00am |
re: #709 oaktree
Try to find a nice Berliner weisse if you can. My sister-in-law is not a beer drinker (and doesn’t handle alcohol well at all.) Had a dinner out at a restaurant in Rochester with her and my brother and she asked to sample my Berliner weisse, then a second time, then a third time. At that point I gave the whole thing to her and ordered another.
Hey, I’ll look into that! Thanks for the info! :-)
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Obdicut Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:36:02am |
re: #711 Walter L. Newton
My wording was terrible in that statement. I don’t mean Steve know truth better than most Lizards, I meant I know Steve, personally, and I can back up what he is saying about having 24/7 pain.
I think anyone who has experience with chronic pain can tell that Steve is absolutely telling the truth.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:36:07am |
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:36:33am |
re: #716 Obdicut
I think anyone who has experience with chronic pain can tell that Steve is absolutely telling the truth.
Well, thank you for your blessing.
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Donna Ballard Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:37:00am |
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Obdicut Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:37:25am |
re: #714 Cannadian Club Akbar
No problem. But yes, every avenue has been explored, except for acupuncture, which would take awhile to convince him of and his insurance also won’t cover. And it’s not free.
Apologies for irascibility.
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albusteve Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:39:09am |
re: #712 Guanxi88
Glad to know I didn’t embarrass on that. I’d hate to offend without intending to do so.
I’ve even tried to make fun of it…I’m crippled more or less, I have a terrible time walking and have spoofed myself, I even have a handicap placard…I’m golden dude…get the fuck outa my cool parking spot
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Donna Ballard Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:39:12am |
re: #699 Varek Raith
*Dragon_Lady does 100d6 Positive energy damage to Varek*
*Dragon_Lady defeats the vampire Varek*
*Dragon_Lady gains 150XP*
/:)
You are the cutest Vampire I’ve ever known! Upding for you! :-)
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Obdicut Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:40:06am |
re: #724 albusteve
Have you ever watched House, and, if so, do you feel it portrays someone with chronic pain well?
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Bubblehead II Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:40:25am |
re: #721 Dragon_Lady
So far so good. It’s actually Sunday for me. (Friday-Tuesday work week).
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Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:41:34am |
re: #722 Obdicut
No problem. But yes, every avenue has been explored, except for acupuncture, which would take awhile to convince him of and his insurance also won’t cover. And it’s not free.
Apologies for irascibility.
Acupuncture’s cheap, dirt cheap. Most of my other gig’s clients pay outta pocket, although many policies do cover it.
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:42:34am |
re: #688 Guanxi88
Acupuncture has some remarkable effects for chronic pain. It can’t treat the underlying condition, but it’s a damned sight cheaper than medication, and isn’t addictive.
Maybe they should consider placebo acupuncture. Some have found it more effective still.
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Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:42:42am |
re: #724 albusteve
I’ve even tried to make fun of it…I’m crippled more or less, I have a terrible time walking and have spoofed myself, I even have a handicap placard…I’m golden dude…get the fuck outa my cool parking spot
You’re a better man than I, sir. I get a little indigestion, a touch of headache, and my usually sweet, sunny, and agreeable temperament goes right out the f*cking window.
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oldegeezr Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:43:02am |
re: #6 jamesfirecat
Ah yes…it was the epitome of good government when W. Bush and the GOP utilized reconciliation to deliver huge tax cuts for the very well-to-do amongst us in 2005…
Today it has suddenly morphed into the highest level of governmental tyranny when Obama and the Democrats want public health care for us all, the poor and rich alike.
Is there any greater hypocrisy; than to condemn reconciliation today as the darkest lair of those dastardly scoundrels the despicable, liberal, socialist, Democrats…?
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Donna Ballard Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:43:26am |
re: #727 Bubblehead II
So far so good. It’s actually Sunday for me. (Friday-Tuesday work week).
Ahh! I’m in the running for a job like that. Not really looking forward to that part of it but getting back to work will be nice…
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Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:43:28am |
re: #730 oaktree
Maybe they should consider placebo acupuncture. Some have found it more effective still.
Hey, a placebo effect is still an effect, this is the thing.
And, as it seems to work on the principle of counter-irritation, there does seem to be some neurological basis for the practice as well.
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Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:45:57am |
re: #734 Guanxi88
Hey, a placebo effect is still an effect, this is the thing.
And, as it seems to work on the principle of counter-irritation, there does seem to be some neurological basis for the practice as well.
lemme add, as well, that the reason for the durability of the practice in China and elsewhere is not merely a cultural phenomenon. Out in the Hill Country, and quietly in the City, there’s a lot of veterinary acupuncture practiced. So far as I can tell, the placebo effect doesn’t work on animals.
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subsailor68 Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:46:41am |
re: #728 Guanxi88
Acupuncture’s cheap, dirt cheap. Most of my other gig’s clients pay outta pocket, although many policies do cover it.
I can vouch for that. I’ve mentioned this before, but I had a situation where I had such pain in both shoulders that I couldn’t lift my arms much higher than my waist. Surgeon wanted to operate on both - singly or at once. My wife knew of an acupuncturist that came to our town twice a week. Decided to give it a try before having surgery.
He asked me to put my hands against the wall, and walk toward the wall, walking my hands up it until I couldn’t take any more. I did, and got a little over waist high.
He gave me two treatments. At the end of the second, he asked me to try the test again. I was able to walk right up to the wall, with my arms extended completely vertically. And no pain at all.
Total cost was $130 - $65 per visit. That was almost four years ago, and I’ve had no trouble since.
It’s not for everything, or everyone, but it is certainly worth looking at!
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Bubblehead II Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:46:58am |
re: #733 Dragon_Lady
I actually like it. Having two days off during the week allows me to conduct any needed business at my leisure instead of having to rush around to get things done before a business or Government office closes for the weekend.
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sngnsgt Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:47:04am |
I wish Obama would STFU! If we didn’t have to listen to him stutter, it would save at least an hour!
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Obdicut Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:47:08am |
re: #728 Guanxi88
Acupuncture is not in the least bit dirt cheap in San Francisco, no.
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darthstar Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:49:19am |
The GOP and their damn ‘step by step’ argument has Eddie Rabbit stuck in my head…so I’m passing that curse on to all of you. ;)
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Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:49:51am |
re: #739 Obdicut
Acupuncture is not in the least bit dirt cheap in San Francisco, no.
Ooh! Frisco! Damn! I think there’s a school there. Here it is: American College of TCM:
[Link: www.actcm.edu…]
They’ve got a student clinic.:
[Link: www.actcm.edu…]
Have your friend to ask if he could get in for one the Clinical Theatre (or comparable name) courses. These are the best-kept secret of acupuncture schools - free treatments by a professional while a room full of interns watch.
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Varek Raith Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:50:20am |
re: #741 darthstar
The GOP and their damn ‘step by step’ argument has Eddie Rabbit stuck in my head…so I’m passing that curse on to all of you. ;)
[Video]
Heh, nice try but, the curse is easily avoided as long as one doesn’t click the vid!
:P
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Donna Ballard Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:50:50am |
re: #726 Obdicut
Have you ever watched House, and, if so, do you feel it portrays someone with chronic pain well?
He’s a bit of a whiner but some people react like that. I have to force myself to not be like that or I’d never keep a job or my marriage intact. I tell myself to take it one moment at a time, day by day, year by year. It’s hard but somehow I manage. You should ask RWre: #737 Bubblehead II
I actually like it. Having two days off during the week allows me to conduct any needed business at my leisure instead of having to rush around to get things done before a business or Government office closes for the weekend.
C about how well…Yeah, I can see your point. But I think RWC’s gonna start feeling neglected after a while of my coming home late at night and crashing right away then not having anytime on the weekends to spent together. We’ll have to see what we see…
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Obdicut Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:51:27am |
re: #736 subsailor68
Acupuncture is the only thing I’ve ever found that actually works for RSI. However, given that my friends problem results from misaligned bones, I doubt that it would actually afford permanent relief. Anyway, a typical course of acupuncture treatment around here costs more than a grand.
I want him to do it even if it is temporary, just because it’d allow him to cut down or get off his meds for awhile, but a grand is not something he can spare easily.
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albusteve Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:51:49am |
re: #726 Obdicut
Have you ever watched House, and, if so, do you feel it portrays someone with chronic pain well?
have not seen it, I hear it is excellent…I do know that chronic pain will play hell with your attitude, your happy factor and anything else that gets in the way…it dominates, it’s part of everything you do or consider doing, gets inside your head…I take vicoden, in fact I have to go get more right now…it helps buts it becomes problematic itself…my liver is fine but six months or a year ago I had to constantly overdose myself for relief and there is an addiction factor as well…my alternative is to chop my leg off since after 4 bypass surgeries, there is no other option…I’m slowing healing from the last operation and trying to determine how much pain will be permanent, maybe I can deal with a low level but not what I have at the moment…this has dragged on for 18 months and I can tell you honestly, that as recently as a week ago I was crying…a grown man, tough guy, crying because it hurt so bad combined with frustration and despair…and it was far worse than that in the past….I’m far better than I was and don’t like the extra attention but that’s my story…I’m cool for now, but will probably end up with a wooden leg someday…chew on that
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ShaunP Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:52:23am |
re: #732 oldegeezr
Is there any greater hypocrisy; than to condemn reconciliation today as the darkest lair of those dastardly scoundrels the despicable, liberal, socialist, Democrats…?
It’s all part of the game.
reconciliation is the devil, unless your side is doing it.
filibuster is the devil, unless your side is doing it.
Both sides are equally hypocritical to push their agendas. Absolutely hypocritical though and childish to boot…
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Varek Raith Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:52:49am |
re: #746 albusteve
Wooden leg? Nah, you’d get a badass cybernetic leg.
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albusteve Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:52:56am |
re: #731 Guanxi88
You’re a better man than I, sir. I get a little indigestion, a touch of headache, and my usually sweet, sunny, and agreeable temperament goes right out the f*cking window.
I’m not better than anybody…some people are far worse off than me
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Donna Ballard Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:54:22am |
re: #746 albusteve
have not seen it, I hear it is excellent…I do know that chronic pain will play hell with your attitude, your happy factor and anything else that gets in the way…it dominates, it’s part of everything you do or consider doing, gets inside your head…I take vicoden, in fact I have to go get more right now…it helps buts it becomes problematic itself…my liver is fine but six months or a year ago I had to constantly overdose myself for relief and there is an addiction factor as well…my alternative is to chop my leg off since after 4 bypass surgeries, there is no other option…I’m slowing healing from the last operation and trying to determine how much pain will be permanent, maybe I can deal with a low level but not what I have at the moment…this has dragged on for 18 months and I can tell you honestly, that as recently as a week ago I was crying…a grown man, tough guy, crying because it hurt so bad combined with frustration and despair…and it was far worse than that in the past…I’m far better than I was and don’t like the extra attention but that’s my story…I’m cool for now, but will probably end up with a wooden leg someday…chew on that
I’m with you there… I’ve had to cut back on my meds for fear of doing damage to my liver. I’m not a kid anymore and my body just doesn’t metabolize the meds as well as it used to…
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Obdicut Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:54:36am |
re: #742 Guanxi88
See my 745. The problem is structural, so acupuncture is probably going to be of limited use. That’s if I could convince him to try it.
The point, again:
He has insurance. His doctor, and a specialist, both agree that an operation has a very high chance of ending his pain permanently. His insurance company will not pay for this treatment— nor will they pay for acupuncture. They will pay for pain medicine, despite the health risks from those. This demonstrates a common problem with health insurance; health insurers are used to patients switching insurance often enough that it is beneficial to an insurer to delay any expensive treatment as much as possible.
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subsailor68 Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:54:44am |
re: #745 Obdicut
Acupuncture is the only thing I’ve ever found that actually works for RSI. However, given that my friends problem results from misaligned bones, I doubt that it would actually afford permanent relief. Anyway, a typical course of acupuncture treatment around here costs more than a grand.
I want him to do it even if it is temporary, just because it’d allow him to cut down or get off his meds for awhile, but a grand is not something he can spare easily.
Hmmm…I honestly don’t know how effective it would be for misaligned bones. Ouch! A grand is pretty pricey, but to be honest, things aren’t nearly as expensive where I live. I like Guan’s idea of checking out the school, though - and I’ll keep my fingers crossed that your friend can get some treatment through something like that….
And that it works - even temporarily!
| 754 |
Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:56:03am |
re: #752 Obdicut
See my 745. The problem is structural, so acupuncture is probably going to be of limited use. That’s if I could convince him to try it.
The point, again:
He has insurance. His doctor, and a specialist, both agree that an operation has a very high chance of ending his pain permanently. His insurance company will not pay for this treatment— nor will they pay for acupuncture. They will pay for pain medicine, despite the health risks from those. This demonstrates a common problem with health insurance; health insurers are used to patients switching insurance often enough that it is beneficial to an insurer to delay any expensive treatment as much as possible.
Hey, of course acupuncture’s only gonna provide some analgesic effect. IN the short-term, that’s about the best thing that could be offered, pending the surgery. At a minimum, he might be able to avoid the medications, or at least reduce his dosages somewhat.
He’s in a lousy situation, no getting around it.
| 755 |
albusteve Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:56:16am |
re: #748 Varek Raith
Wooden leg? Nah, you’d get a badass cybernetic leg.
I’ve checked them out online…some cool stuff out there, but I want a wooden one so Walter can carve his name on it
| 757 |
Donna Ballard Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:56:52am |
I’ll BBL, my furry bosses are buggin to go out and I have to trail around behind them to keep the chances of french leave down. See ya later Lizards, Keep Laughing!
| 758 |
webevintage Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:57:13am |
God, I’m tired of hearing about how awesome HSA’s are from the Republicans. I bet they are if you have, you know, extra money laying around to put into one.
I’m sick of hearing about how business groups should be the ones creating insurance pools and not the Feds. EXCEPT most business organizations DO have insurance pools that people can buy into but they cost a lot. The exchanges would create a large pool because the Federal Gov can create a large fucking pool of people.
Why am I watching this, I knew I would get pissed off.
| 759 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:57:50am |
Can you imagine this remark as made by Dick Cheney…
“I would love to live in a world where the president could snap his fingers or even twist arms and make change happen, but in this great democracy of ours, that’s not the way it is.”
| 760 |
Varek Raith Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:58:09am |
re: #758 webevintage
God, I’m tired of hearing about how awesome HSA’s are from the Republicans. I bet they are if you have, you know, extra money laying around to put into one.
I’m sick of hearing about how business groups should be the ones creating insurance pools and not the Feds. EXCEPT most business organizations DO have insurance pools that people can buy into but they cost a lot. The exchanges would create a large pool because the Federal Gov can create a large fucking pool of people.
Why am I watching this, I knew I would get pissed off.
I got lucky, my cable went out!
:)
| 761 |
Obdicut Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:58:34am |
re: #753 subsailor68
Yeah. It would be a huge help for him to get off the meds for awhile, for all the reasons that Steve has said, but he already has to call into work occasionally due to the pain in his wrist being too great. So, he’s going to be very resistant to trying anything that might not be effacacious.
Which displays another banana-peel in our current health insurance setup in the US: people get insurance through their jobs. Being chronically sick makes it much more likely you’ll lose your job, even with legal protections in place. So, insurance companies also know that a switch (or a loss) of insurers is more common in people who are chronically ill than in the general population, giving them more reason to delay treatment.
| 762 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:58:35am |
re: #759 Walter L. Newton
Can you imagine this remark as made by Dick Cheney…
“I would love to live in a world where the president could snap his fingers or even twist arms and make change happen, but in this great democracy of ours, that’s not the way it is.”
No, Cheney just twisted arms and made change happen…
| 763 |
Bubblehead II Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:59:48am |
re: #740 MikeySDCA
I avoid malls/crowded shopping centers like the plague. I hate the public. Probably because I have to work with them in one of the worst environments there is. A Casino.
| 764 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Feb 25, 2010 9:01:01am |
re: #763 Bubblehead II
I avoid malls/crowded shopping centers like the plague. I hate the public. Probably because I have to work with them in one of the worst environments there is. A Casino.
I expect that would sour you a little on human nature, yes.
| 765 |
Spider Mensch Thu, Feb 25, 2010 9:02:19am |
re: #745 Obdicut
Acupuncture is the only thing I’ve ever found that actually works for RSI. However, given that my friends problem results from misaligned bones, I doubt that it would actually afford permanent relief. Anyway, a typical course of acupuncture treatment around here costs more than a grand.
I want him to do it even if it is temporary, just because it’d allow him to cut down or get off his meds for awhile, but a grand is not something he can spare easily.
why don’t you lend it to him?
| 766 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Feb 25, 2010 9:02:50am |
re: #762 SanFranciscoZionist
No, Cheney just twisted arms and made change happen…
That’s because Cheney never said that… but Axelrod did…
Wonderful sentiment… hey Axelrod, we are not a great democracy. Dumb shit.
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Obdicut Thu, Feb 25, 2010 9:04:02am |
re: #765 Spider Mensch
A) What makes you think I have a spare grand just lying around?
B) He’s never accepted money from me for anything. Proud guy.
The point, again, is not about my friend’s situation. It is about the fact that he has health insurance and they will not pay for an operation that his doctors agree is the best medical course of action for him.
| 768 |
Bubblehead II Thu, Feb 25, 2010 9:04:22am |
re: #764 SanFranciscoZionist
Losing money+free alcohol=instant asshole in some cases. Some people just don’t seem to understand what the word gamble actually means.
New thread alert ————->
| 769 |
Varek Raith Thu, Feb 25, 2010 9:04:33am |
re: #764 SanFranciscoZionist
I expect that would sour you a little on human nature, yes.
Stocking shelves at grocery stores has a similar effect.
“Dammit, do you know how long it took to stack those little jell-o boxes properly?!?!?111!1”
“Why the hell did you put the 25 pound charcoal bag on top of the toilet paper?!?!”
Sigh.
XD
| 770 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Feb 25, 2010 9:06:02am |
re: #769 Varek Raith
Stocking shelves at grocery stores has a similar effect.
“Dammit, do you know how long it took to stack those little jell-o boxes properly?!?!?111!1”
“Why the hell did you put the 25 pound charcoal bag on top of the toilet paper?!?!”
Sigh.
XD
“Otto, it’s come to my attention that you’re not paying attention to the way you space the cans…”
-Repo Man
| 771 |
Spider Mensch Thu, Feb 25, 2010 9:07:37am |
re: #767 Obdicut
A) What makes you think I have a spare grand just lying around?
B) He’s never accepted money from me for anything. Proud guy.
The point, again, is not about my friend’s situation. It is about the fact that he has health insurance and they will not pay for an operation that his doctors agree is the best medical course of action for him.
it was only a question. Thanks.
| 772 |
Varek Raith Thu, Feb 25, 2010 9:09:20am |
Or, “Hey, your kid is knocking stuff off the shelves left and right but, don’t let that distract you from you phone call!”
Heh, the joys of stocking perishable goods.
:)
| 773 |
Ericus58 Thu, Feb 25, 2010 9:10:05am |
re: #732 oldegeezr
.Is there any greater hypocrisy; than to condemn reconciliation today as the darkest lair of those dastardly scoundrels the despicable, liberal, socialist, Democrats…?
Only equal in hypocrisy to the same group of Democratic leadership that back in 2005 were condemning the use of the same process they themselves are ready to enact. No one is clean here.
| 774 |
jaunte Thu, Feb 25, 2010 9:10:58am |
re: #773 Ericus58
I am shocked, shocked to find politics here in Casablanca.
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Bubblehead II Thu, Feb 25, 2010 9:11:04am |
re: #772 Varek Raith
But how many drunk drivers do you get in the aisles of the store?
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Varek Raith Thu, Feb 25, 2010 9:11:53am |
re: #775 Bubblehead II
But how many drunk drivers do you get in the aisles of the store?
Heh, we had a drunk guy spend 30 minutes in the meat section holding a piece of steak… Had to call the cops…
XD
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Bubblehead II Thu, Feb 25, 2010 9:14:01am |
re: #776 Varek Raith
Anything like the chicken guy on the bus?
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Feb 25, 2010 9:14:02am |
re: #766 Walter L. Newton
That’s because Cheney never said that… but Axelrod did…
Wonderful sentiment… hey Axelrod, we are not a great democracy. Dumb shit.
Inappropriate. He should know better.
How is Cheney connected to this?
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Varek Raith Thu, Feb 25, 2010 9:14:37am |
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oldegeezr Thu, Feb 25, 2010 9:16:37am |
re: #747 ShaunP
Well then…I say, “let the games begin”!
It’s not for me or mine, I’m very fortunate, I have Medicare and the VA as my providers and “she who must be obeyed” is provided co-pay medical insurance through her employer.
In the rural community where we live most of the farming families can’t afford the exorbitant cost of health insurance for their families. The mother often must work outside the home just to be able to afford the cost… or if fortunate, have employment that provides co-pay, medical insurance for herself and her family.
It’s a very serious budgetary and humanitarian issue out here in the boondocks!
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Feb 25, 2010 9:16:50am |
re: #776 Varek Raith
Heh, we had a drunk guy spend 30 minutes in the meat section holding a piece of steak… Had to call the cops…
XD
There is a piece of surveillance tape floating around out there in the Kinko’s training program showing the day a woman came in to a Kinkos with a large, dead, squid, and began to photocopy it.
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oldegeezr Thu, Feb 25, 2010 9:22:31am |
re: #773 Ericus58
I agree, absolutely…
What’s good for the goose is also at least as good for the gander!
So may… “the games” commence anew, or at least I sincerely hope the Democrats have the cojones…!
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The Sanity Inspector Thu, Feb 25, 2010 9:24:51am |
re: #782 SanFranciscoZionist
There is a piece of surveillance tape floating around out there in the Kinko’s training program showing the day a woman came in to a Kinkos with a large, dead, squid, and began to photocopy it.
I once witnessed an uninformed somebody struggling with photocopying an enormous, heavy book. He picked it up and bodyslammed it onto the glass, smashing it to smithereens.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Feb 25, 2010 9:25:46am |
re: #784 The Sanity Inspector
I once witnessed an uninformed somebody struggling with photocopying an enormous, heavy book. He picked it up and bodyslammed it onto the glass, smashing it to smithereens.
Wow.
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Donna Ballard Thu, Feb 25, 2010 10:25:45am |
Hi folks I’m baaack!
Let me tell you about a little experience I had when working in a bead store…
I was working a ground level street front in a brand new store right in downtown L.A. A little boy about 4 years ran up to the door, which had a security buzzer on it, and started pounding had and yelling for me to let him in. I called out to him “wheres your Parents?” F**k my parents! Let me in! He screamed. A few moments after I shook my head at hes demand he was joined by three more little boys each about a year older then the others, 5, 6, and 7 years old if I had to guess if heights any indication of age that is, all doing the same thing, screaming and yelling for me to let them in as well as pounding on the door. Not only were they screaming and yelling they were threatening me with violence, making gang signs and grabbing themselves in a very insulting manor.
Now we had a strict policy of “No children allowed in the store without an accompanying parent” Because the beads were in easy reach of a child and we didn’t want them all over the floor and we had a sign to that effect on the door in large easy to read lettering.
I subsequently called the building security and when the guard walked out to confront he saw the Mother “on the phone” just out of sight of the windows watching her children make the huge scene. As soon as she saw the security guard she called the boy’s off and they all ran and caught a bus that conviently pulled up 20ft away.
I figure that the Mother was trying to get them inside the store, raise havoc and steal as much as they could then get out quickly. If I had let them in the destruction they would have caused was considerable. So much for “Parental Supervision”! Quite frankly I wish the LAPD had been there to take the kids from that so called Mother of theirs and put them in protective care. Future criminals in the making! Makes you just so proud, don’t it?///
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