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The apple cannot be stuck back on the Tree of Knowledge; once we begin to see, we are doomed and challenged to seek the strength to see more, not less.
— Arthur Miller
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freetoken Thu, Feb 25, 2010 10:49:04pm |
But it was the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, and I'm not sure I want to see more...
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freetoken Thu, Feb 25, 2010 10:49:54pm |
SpaceJesus ought to get in on this act:
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Feb 25, 2010 10:54:13pm |
re: #3 freetoken
I swear I saw that dude at an airport once. He was wearing matching color thermals underneath the traditional robes or whatever they're called.
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Silvergirl Thu, Feb 25, 2010 10:57:49pm |
re: #3 freetoken
I like it. It could work for spacejesus. Probably not the right thing for an Islamic coffee shop. I'm not seeing cream cartoons of Mohammed as a popular item.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Feb 25, 2010 11:02:00pm |
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Velvet Elvis Thu, Feb 25, 2010 11:09:28pm |
Eric Clapton -- Smile (with George Harrison)
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Eclectic Infidel Thu, Feb 25, 2010 11:15:45pm |
I'm crazy thirsty tonight. Thank goodness I have all this chilled filtered water.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Feb 25, 2010 11:19:26pm |
The three rules of Real Estate.
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watching you tiny alien kittens are Thu, Feb 25, 2010 11:20:03pm |
Goodnight folks :)
Had to come up here to say it, the people currently downstairs might say I'm quitting, lol...
/and I am before I say anything I'll regret later. ;)
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Silvergirl Thu, Feb 25, 2010 11:23:23pm |
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Silvergirl Thu, Feb 25, 2010 11:25:28pm |
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Bagua Thu, Feb 25, 2010 11:26:52pm |
re: #13 ausador
Goodnight folks :)
Had to come up here to say it, the people currently downstairs might say I'm quitting, lol...
/and I am before I say anything I'll regret later. ;)
Goodnight ausidor, thank you for the dose of sanity.
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Silvergirl Thu, Feb 25, 2010 11:34:08pm |
Body odor is an odd thing to rate a city on. I found it surprising that so many are in AZ and TX and the dry climates. I thought it would be all about humidity and heat, so New Orleans makes some sense. Chicago, too?
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freetoken Thu, Feb 25, 2010 11:36:07pm |
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freetoken Thu, Feb 25, 2010 11:38:39pm |
re: #17 Silvergirl
We Beautiful People out here in California don't stink.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Feb 25, 2010 11:39:31pm |
Watching this on NOVA right now. That show is friggin' awesome.
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SpaceJesus Thu, Feb 25, 2010 11:39:36pm |
onion does sarah palin again
[Link: www.theonion.com...]
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Silvergirl Thu, Feb 25, 2010 11:41:07pm |
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Silvergirl Thu, Feb 25, 2010 11:42:17pm |
re: #19 freetoken
We Beautiful People out here in California don't stink.
We West Coasters are superior in so many ways. :-) I'm up north.
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Silvergirl Thu, Feb 25, 2010 11:43:40pm |
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freetoken Thu, Feb 25, 2010 11:50:29pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Feb 25, 2010 11:55:21pm |
re: #24 Silvergirl
These are the sort of shows that make me think about hooking up to cable again.
It was on PBS, which I get on the regular old airwaves. No cable needed.
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Silvergirl Fri, Feb 26, 2010 12:00:34am |
re: #27 Slumbering Behemoth
It was on PBS, which I get on the regular old airwaves. No cable needed.
I just turned it all off since I have no antenna. Between Hulu and Netflix I do okay.
The show is over now? Did you find it was overkill, overchill, overill, or overgrill?
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Silvergirl Fri, Feb 26, 2010 12:01:17am |
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Eclectic Infidel Fri, Feb 26, 2010 12:07:00am |
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Bagua Fri, Feb 26, 2010 12:07:01am |
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Silvergirl Fri, Feb 26, 2010 12:07:06am |
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Cato the Elder Fri, Feb 26, 2010 12:07:45am |
Good night, everyone. I promise to start saving the world tomorrow, right after breakfast.
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Silvergirl Fri, Feb 26, 2010 12:08:19am |
re: #32 eclectic infidel
Yes. I still haven't seen Avatar!!!
I may never see Avatar. I may want to stay away just to say I never saw it. It wasn't a draw for me.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Feb 26, 2010 12:08:46am |
re: #28 Silvergirl
The presence of nano-diamonds in geologically separate soil samples and ice core samples suggest that it was a cosmic event.
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Silvergirl Fri, Feb 26, 2010 12:09:15am |
re: #35 Cato the Elder
Good night, everyone. I promise to start saving the world tomorrow, right after breakfast.
Sweet dreams. I loved your comments at the end of that last thread.
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freetoken Fri, Feb 26, 2010 12:10:41am |
re: #34 Silvergirl
Are you ever? Are these others from the same soundtrack?
Probably not.
Tonight's selected music is from a variety of movies.
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Silvergirl Fri, Feb 26, 2010 12:10:43am |
re: #37 Slumbering Behemoth
The presence of nano-diamonds in geologically separate soil samples and ice core samples suggest that it was a cosmic event.
That must have been some show. I mean the cosmic event itself as well as the NOVA broadcast.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Feb 26, 2010 12:16:08am |
This is just... I mean... WTF?!?
This dude should get out of baking and go to work with a Hollywood F/X team, seriously.
What you see in this video is only baked bread, but it is so detailed and disturbing that it deserves a "NSFW" tag, and a perhaps a "NSFSanity" tag.
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Silvergirl Fri, Feb 26, 2010 12:28:52am |
re: #41 Slumbering Behemoth
With the rating you gave it, I'll hold off till tomorrow. I'm going to hang onto sanity for the night.
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SixDegrees Fri, Feb 26, 2010 12:29:17am |
re: #41 Slumbering Behemoth
This is just... I mean... WTF?!?
This dude should get out of baking and go to work with a Hollywood F/X team, seriously.
What you see in this video is only baked bread, but it is so detailed and disturbing that it deserves a "NSFW" tag, and a perhaps a "NSFSanity" tag.
That guy needs to be watched.
It's better if you imagine a Julia Child voiceover, though.
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Silvergirl Fri, Feb 26, 2010 12:30:58am |
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freetoken Fri, Feb 26, 2010 12:35:37am |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Feb 26, 2010 12:40:47am |
I thought this was a bit of fauxtography, but apparently not.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Feb 26, 2010 1:37:35am |
"When planning on going on a hunting trip right after work, it is best to leave your rifle locked in the car, and not carry it across the street to the high rise office building you work in, on the day the President of the U.S. is going to be at the hotel right next door. The Secret Service will ask you many, many, many questions."
G'nite Lizards.
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Sacred Plants Fri, Feb 26, 2010 1:49:58am |
What happens next
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Sol Berdinowitz Fri, Feb 26, 2010 1:55:13am |
re: #50 Slumbering Behemoth
G'nite Lizards.
Yunno, I amnot about to take issue with the right of Americans to keep arms in their homes to defend themselves and their prioperty. But a lot of people seem to want to expand this right to one to carry guns wherever they go in public, which is another matter entirley.
Just like I have no trouble with people smoking dope or engaging in most any sort of consensual sexual acts with other adults in their own homes - but not necessarily in public!
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iceweasel Fri, Feb 26, 2010 3:26:32am |
She tells her love while half asleep,
In the dark hours,
With half-words whispered low:
As Earth stirs in her winter sleep
And puts out grass and flowers
Despite the snow,
Despite the falling snow.
Robert Graves
Snow here. Everything's hushed.
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 3:55:01am |
But the ethics panel, the House Committee on Standards of Official Conduct, did not issue findings in its continuing inquiries into more serious matters concerning Mr. Rangel’s fund-raising, his failure to pay federal taxes on rental income from a Dominican villa, and his use of four rent-stabilized apartments provided by a Manhattan real estate developer.
SNIP
The committee’s findings, released Thursday night, admonished Mr. Rangel, even though it said it had no proof that he knew of the sponsorships. But it held him accountable because two members of his staff knew.
“Representative Rangel was responsible for the knowledge and actions of his staff and the performance of their official duties,” the report said.
Mr. Rangel, in a news conference Thursday night, disputed the findings. “Common sense dictates that members of Congress should not be held responsible for what could be the wrongdoing or mistakes or errors of staff unless there is reason to believe the members knew or should have known,” he said.
SNIP
So, the bosses should not know more than their employees?
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 3:59:53am |
"It is against unbelieving and apostate Switzerland that jihad (holy war) ought to be proclaimed by all means," Kadhafi said in a speech in the Mediterranean coastal city of Benghazi to mark the birthday of the Muslim Prophet Mohammed on Friday.
"Jihad against Switzerland, against Zionism, against foreign aggression is not terrorism," Kadhafi said.
SNIP
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iceweasel Fri, Feb 26, 2010 4:00:06am |
After Rep. Resigns In Sex Scandal, Georgia County Elects GOPer Who Had Affair With Mother-In-Law
Last December, Paulding County lost its representative in the Georgia House when he resigned in a high profile sex and conflict-of-interest scandal.
Glenn Richardson, the family-values Republican who represented the county and was speaker of the house, stepped down after his ex-wife publicly accused him of having "a full-out affair" with a lobbyist while he was married.
So when Paulding County voters went to the polls for a special election Tuesday, they selected ... another family-values conservative who had admitted to an extramarital affair!
Meet newly minted Rep. Daniel Stout.
His campaign Web site touts his conservative, pro-family bona fides. "I believe Paulding County wants someone who will stand strong for the conservative principles we've always believed in ... lower taxes, limited government, personal responsibility, and valuing Life from the womb until natural death," he says.
But, as the writer Tom Crawford of Capitol Impact noted this week, Stout "has been compelled to address a personal incident from 10 years ago: he had an affair with his first wife's mother while his first wife was pregnant with their daughter. Stout and his first wife subsequently divorced."
In a statement to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, Stout apologized and said, "This humbling experience changed my life dramatically."
He also said the relationship with his mother-in-law "was stopped short of 'sex.'"
Family values FAIL.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 26, 2010 4:01:02am |
The apple cannot be stuck back on the Tree of Knowledge; once we begin to see, we are doomed and challenged to seek the strength to see more, not less.
— Arthur Miller
Can't put the toothpaste back in the tube.
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Feb 26, 2010 4:01:46am |
re: #55 MandyManners
Another POS keeps on floating, while the whole tankfull continues to circle the drain.
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pederS Fri, Feb 26, 2010 4:03:18am |
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 4:04:28am |
re: #59 Spare O'Lake
Another POS keeps on floating, while the whole tankfull continues to circle the drain.
I just cannot fathom his saying that he's not responsible for his own actions.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 26, 2010 4:08:29am |
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Feb 26, 2010 4:08:57am |
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Feb 26, 2010 4:11:37am |
re: #58 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The apple cannot be stuck back on the Tree of Knowledge; once we begin to see, we are doomed and challenged to seek the strength to see more, not less.
— Arthur MillerCan't put the toothpaste back in the tube.
I guesws they didn't have duct tape back in Miller's day.
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 4:13:06am |
The road to Gaza is paved now.
The two narrow asphalt lanes that run through the vast plain of battlefield ruins that once was a promising industrial zone on the Israeli-Palestinian border are the most visible manifestation an unusual detente between Israel and Gaza's Hamas rulers.
Thirteen months after Israel ended a three-week military assault on the narrow coastal enclave, Palestinian militants rarely fire rockets at southern Israel — 3,000 rockets and mortar rounds claimed eight Israeli lives in 2008.
Israel hasn't launched a major military strike on Gaza in more than a year, and it's been more than two years since a Palestinian suicide bombing anywhere in Israel.
SNIP
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Taqyia2Me Fri, Feb 26, 2010 4:14:48am |
re: #55 MandyManners
Ladies and gentlemen, presenting Charlie Rangel, your Chairman of the House Ways and Means Comm.
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 4:17:06am |
re: #67 Taqyia2Me
Ladies and gentlemen, presenting Charlie Rangel, your Chairman of the House Ways and Means Comm.
He's thrown one staffer under the bus already. I wonder how many will follow.
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 4:19:54am |
re: #64 Spare O'Lake
This goes beyond the minaret debate. Kadaffi's son, Hannibal, got busted for abusing two domestic servants.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 26, 2010 4:20:25am |
re: #67 Taqyia2Me
If his constituents and his colleagues will give him a pass; ain't a damn thing we can do about it.
Live la vida loca, Charlie. America is full of little fiefdoms like the one you have made for yourself. Doesn't stop me from calling you a dishonest thieving motherfucker tho.
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Feb 26, 2010 4:20:39am |
re: #64 Spare O'Lake
When I read this shit I feel like I minaret.
Very bad pun:
I'm in a rut.
I minaret.
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Taqyia2Me Fri, Feb 26, 2010 4:20:56am |
re: #68 MandyManners
He's thrown one staffer under the bus already. I wonder how many will follow.
It's not his fault!
/sarc/
Your tax dollars at work.
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Feb 26, 2010 4:23:33am |
re: #69 MandyManners
This goes beyond the minaret debate. Kadaffi's son, Hannibal, got busted for abusing two domestic servants.
Maybe Kaddafi's house could use another wakeup call...by airmail like last time.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 26, 2010 4:24:12am |
re: #72 Taqyia2Me
It's not his fault!
/sarc/
Your tax dollars at work.
He is amazingly stupid or incredibly corrupt.
I do not for a moment believe he is both.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 26, 2010 4:24:51am |
re: #73 Spare O'Lake
Maybe Kaddafi's house could use another wakeup call...by airmail like last time.
He reads a different "Things that go bump in the night" story to his children, doesn't he.
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Taqyia2Me Fri, Feb 26, 2010 4:24:52am |
re: #70 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Remind me to continue to thank Speaker Nancy theLousey for keeping her pledge to have the most honest, ethical Congress in history.
Is her husband's company paying the hired help minimum wage yet?
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 4:25:51am |
re: #72 Taqyia2Me
It's not his fault!
/sarc/
Your tax dollars at work.
They're still looking into his use of four rent-controlled properties and his refusal to pay income tax on his own property.
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 4:27:13am |
re: #73 Spare O'Lake
Maybe Kaddafi's house could use another wakeup call...by airmail like last time.
Do we have any F-111s left?
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Feb 26, 2010 4:27:16am |
I'm on holidays, so I gotta go out soon to defrost my golf clubs.
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 4:28:16am |
re: #74 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
He is amazingly stupid or incredibly corrupt.
I do not for a moment believe he is both.
He knows what he's doing.
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windhorse Fri, Feb 26, 2010 4:28:59am |
I called the US Coast Guard yesterday during the lunch hour and heard their voice message that the office was closed for the Labor Day Weekend, until Tuesday September 8th.
Change!
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Feb 26, 2010 4:30:35am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 26, 2010 4:31:13am |
Is there a jail or prison in America with 435 inmates?
If we simply made a complete switcheroo with Congress would we be better off?
Completely bi-partisan statement there.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 26, 2010 4:31:45am |
re: #80 MandyManners
He knows what he's doing.
I am giving him the benefit of the doubt that he may be amazingly stupid.
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Taqyia2Me Fri, Feb 26, 2010 4:31:53am |
re: #81 windhorse
I called the US Coast Guard yesterday during the lunch hour and heard their voice message that the office was closed for the Labor Day Weekend, until Tuesday September 8th.
Change!
Wow
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 4:33:26am |
re: #81 windhorse
I called the US Coast Guard yesterday during the lunch hour and heard their voice message that the office was closed for the Labor Day Weekend, until Tuesday September 8th.
Change!
Labor Day's on the sixth this year.
Any way, I doubt they're closing down the ships.
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iceweasel Fri, Feb 26, 2010 4:33:52am |
Sally Quinn’s Column Dropped in Print Editions of The Washington Post
Just three months after it started, Sally Quinn’s weekly column on entertaining and social mores has been dropped from The Washington Post’s printed editions, after complaints about Ms. Quinn’s using it to air a dispute within her extended family.
DESCRIPTIONJoe Fornabaio for The New York Times Sally Quinn in 2007.
Good. That's some improvement. Sally Quinn is like Peggy Noonan lite.
However:
But the column, “The Party,” will continue to appear online. And Ms. Quinn, who is married to Ben Bradlee, former executive editor of The Post, will continue as co-moderator of “On Faith,” a segment of washingtonpost.com.
Baby steps....
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 26, 2010 4:34:01am |
"I called the suicide hot-line and they put me on hold...."
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 4:34:10am |
re: #82 Spare O'Lake
Is this the road that's paved with good intentions?
Hamas wouldn't know a good intention if it bit them on the butt.
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 4:34:58am |
re: #84 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I am giving him the benefit of the doubt that he may be amazingly stupid.
Look at the totality of his crimes.
Anyone *that* stupid wouldn't be able to find the floor in the morning.
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 4:35:11am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 26, 2010 4:35:29am |
OT... another story on TV about the killer whale.
FREE WILLY!
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 4:35:55am |
re: #88 windhorse
(It was from last year!)
Thanks for clarifying.
Their message now is about last year?
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Feb 26, 2010 4:37:00am |
re: #95 MandyManners
Thanks for clarifying.
Their message now is about last year?
File that one under the "Don't call us, we'll call you" heading.
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 4:37:21am |
So if Biden compares himself to a grandparent, does that mean he thinks BHO is the father of this nation?
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Bubblehead II Fri, Feb 26, 2010 4:37:30am |
re: #93 MandyManners
Just sitting here drinking coffee, trying to get the courage up to take a look at the Tom Petty thread. Did ya find my leg yet? Tapping cane.
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windhorse Fri, Feb 26, 2010 4:42:39am |
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 4:42:52am |
re: #98 Bubblehead II
Just sitting here drinking coffee, trying to get the courage up to take a look at the Tom Petty thread. Did ya find my leg yet? Tapping cane.
It was misfiled under "appendage".
*hands over leg*
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Bubblehead II Fri, Feb 26, 2010 4:47:04am |
re: #102 MandyManners
Thanks. *snaps back on and does a Snoopy Dance*
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 4:49:12am |
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 4:55:44am |
CNN-Turk and Haber-Turk televisions say 17 of the officers were on active duty. They say police detained them in 13 separate cities in a nationwide sweep on Friday.
SNIP
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Bubblehead II Fri, Feb 26, 2010 4:58:35am |
You know if you don't like the show, either change the channel or turn it off.
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 4:59:20am |
SNIP
In a telephone interview, a Taliban spokesman claimed responsibility for the attacks, which coincided with a major offensive by American-led coalition forces against militants in the southern province of Helmand, a central element in President Obama’s strategy in rural Afghanistan.
In one attack, a car bomb exploded outside a guesthouse popular with Indians while suicide bombers stormed another guesthouse frequented by Britons and Americans, triggering a firefight with security forces and other insurgents that lasted for more than 90 minutes.
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 5:01:03am |
re: #107 Bubblehead II
You know if you don't like the show, either change the channel or turn it off.
Democracy is messy.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 26, 2010 5:04:08am |
I remember a poster hanging on a wall in Jr. High School... Mr. Gross' class. (First Jewish person I ever met.)
Two buzzards perched, one says to the other one, "Patience? Hell. I'm going to kill something."
I'm feelin' kind of like that today.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 26, 2010 5:05:08am |
re: #107 Bubblehead II
I er... um... how do I say this... oh, heck.
I LOVE FAMILY GUY! WATCH IT WHENEVER I GET A CHANCE!
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Bubblehead II Fri, Feb 26, 2010 5:08:40am |
Poetic Justice?
Lights failure throws Chavez into darkness
"A televised speech by Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez was suddenly thrown into darkness when lights failed, at the Miraflores Palace in Caracas.
Power and light were restored after around 30 seconds, when Chavez immediately denied the incident had been caused by a power cut."
Riiiiigghhtt. It was just the janitor plugging in his buffer
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garhighway Fri, Feb 26, 2010 5:09:55am |
re: #81 windhorse
I called the US Coast Guard yesterday during the lunch hour and heard their voice message that the office was closed for the Labor Day Weekend, until Tuesday September 8th.
Change!
It's Obama's fault.
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Bubblehead II Fri, Feb 26, 2010 5:09:58am |
re: #109 MandyManners
As the HCR round table yesterday amply demonstrated.
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 5:15:08am |
re: #112 Bubblehead II
Poetic Justice?
Lights failure throws Chavez into darkness
"A televised speech by Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez was suddenly thrown into darkness when lights failed, at the Miraflores Palace in Caracas.
Power and light were restored after around 30 seconds, when Chavez immediately denied the incident had been caused by a power cut."Riiigghhtt. It was just the janitor plugging in his buffer
Let's oppress some more bourgeois.
Chavez said authorities must be "on the alert" and apprehend anyone who cuts electricity cables connected to the grid. Such sabotage has caused power failures in some regions and exacerbated the effects of severe energy shortages, he said.
"Be on the lookout! Patrols must be carried out to capture the saboteurs because those responsible must be caught and put in prison," Chavez said during his weekly television and radio program, "Hello President."
Referring to his government's adversaries, he said: "They think that's how they're going to topple Chavez, and that's what they're seeking, but if there's an electricity collapse, it won't be Chavez who is going to fall. Prepare yourselves, bourgeois folks, because it will be you who will fall."
The accusations were vague and Chavez provided no evidence supporting them.
SNIP
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cliffster Fri, Feb 26, 2010 5:15:54am |
re: #107 Bubblehead II
You know if you don't like the show, either change the channel or turn it off.
Family Guy is the AntiPC.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 26, 2010 5:20:54am |
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WindHorse Fri, Feb 26, 2010 5:21:12am |
re: #113 garhighway
(I said "Change!" as a joke... as in... change your message!)
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cliffster Fri, Feb 26, 2010 5:27:04am |
re: #118 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
G'morning Cliffy!
NORM!
(we really need a Norm)
You're right! Actually, we probably have plenty of Norms already. They're just not, y'know, named Norm.
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Bubblehead II Fri, Feb 26, 2010 5:28:32am |
re: #115 MandyManners
The guy is stark raving mad. Did you notice in the link I posted there is also a video of him asking the Queen Of England to to turn the Falkland Islands over to Argentina?
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Bubblehead II Fri, Feb 26, 2010 5:29:50am |
re: #121 Bubblehead II
The guy is stark raving mad. Did you notice in the link I posted there is also a video of him
askingdemanding the Queen Of England to to turn the Falkland Islands over to Argentina?
oops.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Feb 26, 2010 5:30:51am |
re: #121 Bubblehead II
The guy is stark raving mad. Did you notice in the link I posted there is also a video of him asking the Queen Of England to to turn the Falkland Islands over to Argentina?
They already fought a war over that one. I guess old grudges never die, do they?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 26, 2010 5:31:18am |
Snowing like hell in Vancouver these days, just in time for the closing ceremonies?
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Bubblehead II Fri, Feb 26, 2010 5:36:16am |
re: #123 thedopefishlives
Nope. But I have a feeling if the Argentine Navy tries anything it will be a repeat of the last episode
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Bubblehead II Fri, Feb 26, 2010 5:37:45am |
re: #124 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Not looking to good for the North East today either.
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Jadespring Fri, Feb 26, 2010 5:38:22am |
re: #124 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Snowing like hell in Vancouver these days, just in time for the closing ceremonies?
I think they finally got some snow up on the local mountains. It doesn't usually snow right in Vancouver anyways. Winter in Van is mostly rain.
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cliffster Fri, Feb 26, 2010 5:43:34am |
re: #124 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Snowing like hell in Vancouver these days, just in time for the closing ceremonies?
That's exactly my last ski trip. Needed snow badly the whole time and got nothing (despite repeated forecasts for 60% chance of snow). Snowed 5 inches the day after we left.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Feb 26, 2010 5:44:51am |
re: #53 iceweasel
She tells her love while half asleep,
In the dark hours,
With half-words whispered low:
As Earth stirs in her winter sleep
And puts out grass and flowers
Despite the snow,
Despite the falling snow.
Robert GravesSnow here. Everything's hushed.
Here too.
A few light taps upon the pane made him turn to the window. It had begun to snow again. He watched sleepily the flakes, silver and dark, falling obliquely against the lamplight. The time had come for him to set out on his journey westward. Yes, the newspapers were right: snow was general all over Ireland. It was falling on every part of the dark central plain, on the treeless hills, falling softly upon the Bog of Allen and, farther westward, softly falling into the dark mutinous Shannon waves. It was falling, too, upon every part of the lonely churchyard on the hill where Michael Furey lay buried. It lay thickly drifted on the crooked crosses and headstones, on the spears of the little gate, on the barren thorns. His soul swooned slowly as he heard the snow falling faintly through the universe and faintly falling, like the descent of their last end, upon all the living and the dead.
--James Joyce, "The Dead"
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cliffster Fri, Feb 26, 2010 5:45:13am |
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Ericus58 Fri, Feb 26, 2010 5:46:25am |
Good morning everyone.
I'm starting off this morning with a cleansing music video, thinking of pleasant memories...
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 26, 2010 5:47:23am |
re: #131 Cato the Elder
Charles had a thread dedicated to that excerpt a while back. Thanks for posting that. Lovely writing.
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Nervous Norvous Fri, Feb 26, 2010 5:48:22am |
re: #132 cliffster
Howdy back atcha. You look nice today. I'm just guessing, of course.
I was gonna make a much more flamboyant entrance, something about Sarah Palin burning through her 15 minutes of fame, because there was too much at stake to let her hold national office, but then I thought better of it.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 26, 2010 5:49:20am |
re: #133 Ericus58
Got another? I can't stand Bocelli (if he wasn't blind we would have never heard of him) or Brightman (just ugh)...
You're cool tho.
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cliffster Fri, Feb 26, 2010 5:49:27am |
re: #53 iceweasel
re: #131 Cato the Elder
Those are real nice. But this one tops all. You might have read it..
Oh, the weather outside is frightful,
But the fire is so delightful,
And since we've no place to go,
Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow.
It doesn't show signs of stopping,
And I brought some corn for popping;
The lights are turned way down low,
Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow
-- Sammy Cahn, Jule Styne
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Cato the Elder Fri, Feb 26, 2010 5:50:22am |
re: #138 cliffster
You bring the popcorn, I'll make the hot toddies.
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Nervous Norvous Fri, Feb 26, 2010 5:50:56am |
re: #132 cliffster
Howdy back atcha. You look nice today. I'm just guessing, of course.
I just woke up, so it's probably good that there are no Webcams on LGF..or there would be large quantities of screaming and running going on from anyone who gets my feed.
Of course I'm the guy who when I was visiting a friends house and they told me to make myself at home, replied "You mean you want me to sit around in my underwear and drink beer?"
For some reason I never got another invite..:)
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WindHorse Fri, Feb 26, 2010 5:52:25am |
an early morning (late night) song....
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SteveC Fri, Feb 26, 2010 5:52:59am |
re: #140 PT Barnum
Of course I'm the guy who when I was visiting a friends house and they told me to make myself at home, replied "You mean you want me to sit around in my underwear and drink beer?"
I would have said "Great, just get comfy. After dinner we'll have a farting contest."
.... and there would be two of us sitting outside in the snow!
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Cato the Elder Fri, Feb 26, 2010 5:53:10am |
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cliffster Fri, Feb 26, 2010 5:55:02am |
re: #139 Cato the Elder
You bring the popcorn, I'll make the hot toddies.
Perfect. No goodnight kiss for you, though
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Nervous Norvous Fri, Feb 26, 2010 5:55:25am |
Snow business like show business
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Nervous Norvous Fri, Feb 26, 2010 5:56:38am |
Although it seems like you guys are getting kind of flaky...
But I'm sure you'll plow right through and keep shovelling your way out.
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Bubblehead II Fri, Feb 26, 2010 5:56:56am |
They found Walter Koenig's missing son.
Not an happy ending.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Feb 26, 2010 5:57:49am |
re: #147 PT Barnum
Although it seems like you guys are getting kind of flaky...
But I'm sure you'll plow right through and keep shovelling your way out.
Snow way I'm digging out until the flakes stop falling.
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Jeff In Ohio Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:00:13am |
re: #138 cliffster
re: #131 Cato the Elder
Those are real nice. But this one tops all. You might have read it..
Oh, the weather outside is frightful,
But the fire is so delightful,
And since we've no place to go,
Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow.It doesn't show signs of stopping,
And I brought some corn for popping;
The lights are turned way down low,
Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow-- Sammy Cahn, Jule Styne
Especially when sung by Rose Clooney!
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Nervous Norvous Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:00:41am |
re: #149 Ericus58
[Video]
You know I would think that would be even harder to learn than a regular song, in that there are no words to remember. How do you remember to sing eeeha-eeha-eeha
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SteveC Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:11:46am |
Had an appointment with my Cardiologist in Atlanta this past Wednesday that went great! I am doing very good, could stand to drop a few pounds (when you are in heart failure, they are always wanting you to drop a few pounds, but this time I agree with them) and all is well in my world.
Back in 1988, my Cardiologist recommended that I have a heart operation known as the Fontan Procedure. I was in the operating room actually being opened up when old scar tissue tore and I almost bled out. They had to stop the operation to save my sorry butt.
Time passes....
Today, that same cardiologist recommends the Fontan only as a last resort. He does his best to manage your health through medication and lifestyle changes before resorting to the Fontan, because the Fontan puts a lot of pressure on the liver. A good number of people who have had the Fontan and needed a heart transplant later can't get on the list, because the operation has wrecked their liver function. :(
The Fontan is often the last operation you have. You almost "paint yourself in a corner" when you have it, because it is so difficult to "take down and do anything else.
But they still use it because quite often, there is no other choice. You have to learn to manage your lifestyle and live with it. Thankfully, I got away without and I'm doing good - but in 1988, we were all disappointed that it *didn't* work.
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Ericus58 Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:13:57am |
re: #152 PT Barnum
You might be on to something there.....
How about we real switch things up in here then this morning, shift the gears and light the fires.
Fair Notice: Might NOT be suitable for work.
Animated Band that makes fun of the blatant sexuality in music videos. Enjoy!
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reine.de.tout Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:14:25am |
re: #153 SteveC
Glad to hear all is well! And that things turned out so well for you!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:14:45am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:16:50am |
re: #157 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The line from Philadelphia... Tom Hanks...
This is my favorite aria. This is Maria Callas. This is "Andrea Chenier", Umberto Giordano. This is Madeleine. She's saying how during the French Revolution, a mob set fire to her house, and her mother died... saving her. "Look, the place that cradled me is burning." Can you hear the heartache in her voice? Can you feel it, Joe? In come the strings, and it changes everything. The music fills with a hope, and that'll change again. Listen... listen..."I bring sorrow to those who love me." Oh, that single cello! "It was during this sorrow that love came to me." A voice filled with harmony. It says, "Live still, I am life. Heaven is in your eyes. Is everything around you just the blood and mud? I am divine. I am oblivion. I am the god... that comes down from the heavens, and makes of the Earth a heaven. I am love!... I am love."
I've watched that scene many, many times...
Listen to the color of her voice...
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cliffster Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:18:47am |
re: #153 SteveC
Had an appointment with my Cardiologist in Atlanta this past Wednesday that went great! I am doing very good, could stand to drop a few pounds (when you are in heart failure, they are always wanting you to drop a few pounds, but this time I agree with them) and all is well in my world.
Keep up the good work! Sounds like you've been a long time with this thing. Living a normal life despite? Mind if I ask what pissed your ticker off?
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Obdicut Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:18:50am |
The weirdos are lively.
This was posted on Craigslist here in SF:
The enemy is all around us in complacent workers and TV news anchors that know what they do is wrong, only to scared to speak out.
This is our country we need to revive and awake from a deep slumber the will cost us.
The cost of change will be hard and sad it will be neighbors and some friends and family that is what civil war is.
Something greater than our own lives is at stake here though…….. the future of this country the ideals the liberty all that we see worth living for is at stake.
If you ever wondered how what happened in Germany happened look around at the people that should know better and just sleep walk through their days.
This is what we are fighting for the future don’t let these idiots give our country away stand up.
The headline, of course, was: JOE STACK 1ST CASUALTY IN NEW CIVIL WAR.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:20:43am |
re: #159 cliffster
Birth infuriated his ticker.
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SteveC Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:22:41am |
re: #159 cliffster
Mind if I ask what pissed your ticker off?
I was born in '66 with a Congenital Heart Defect (Tricuspid Atresia) so you could say it got here pissed off.
Like The Sons of Katie Elder:
"I think I hit him, he left here limping!"
"Son, he came here limping!"
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:22:46am |
re: #121 Bubblehead II
The guy is stark raving mad. Did you notice in the link I posted there is also a video of him asking the Queen Of England to to turn the Falkland Islands over to Argentina?
I don't think he's crazy. He's a socialist demagogue.
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cliffster Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:23:29am |
re: #158 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Great movie. I cried like a little girl watching it, and I'm an insensitive asshole. Of course, I saw it maybe 6 months after my bro told me he had contracted HIV, which was a death sentence back then. So can't claim too many in-touch-with-my-sensitive-side points there.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:23:35am |
re: #160 Obdicut
The weirdos are lively.
This was posted on Craigslist here in SF:
The headline, of course, was: JOE STACK 1ST CASUALTY IN NEW CIVIL WAR.
San Francisco is, of course, a hotbed of weird.
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SteveC Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:23:40am |
re: #161 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Birth infuriated his ticker.
I knew I shoulda saved that receipt....
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:24:04am |
Okay. I've gotta run. But I have a startling admission to make.
I watched the movie, "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance" for the first time last night.
As a movie buff? I am ashamed.
And holy shit! Was it good.
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SteveC Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:25:18am |
re: #167 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
And holy shit! Was it good.
"Ain't nothin' too good for the man who shot Liberty Valence!"
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Obdicut Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:25:20am |
re: #165 thedopefishlives
That's not our normal brand of weird, though.
This is a more normal bit of SF weirdness:
This letter may be a bit overwhelming for those who are still soundly asleep in a world of make-believe and television and who don't want to hear how some deep void within the music industry makes it necessary for it to bring widespread death and degradation to millions of human beings across the face of the Earth. There are a number of reasons it isn't telling us as to why it wants to sell otherwise perfectly reasonable people the idée fixe that it can convince criminals to fill out an application form before committing a crime. In this letter, I will expose those reasons one-by-one, on the principle that it says that skin color means more than skill, and gender is more impressive than genius. But then it turns around and says that it values our perspectives. You know, you can't have it both ways, the music industry. Anyway, that's it for this letter. Let the music industry read it and weep.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:25:22am |
re: #167 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Okay. I've gotta run. But I have a startling admission to make.
I watched the movie, "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance" for the first time last night.
As a movie buff? I am ashamed.
And holy shit! Was it good.
I recorded it on my DVR. I will watch it this weekend. I never seen it either.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:25:34am |
Hey everyone. Have I ever told you how much I hate my computer at work? It's taking like two minutes to open a 4 page Word file. Stupid government.
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cliffster Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:25:39am |
re: #162 SteveC
I was born in '66 with a Congenital Heart Defect (Tricuspid Atresia) so you could say it got here pissed off.
Like The Sons of Katie Elder:
"I think I hit him, he left here limping!"
"Son, he came here limping!"
Word. Glad you're doing ok.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:26:25am |
re: #167 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Okay. I've gotta run. But I have a startling admission to make.
I watched the movie, "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance" for the first time last night.
As a movie buff? I am ashamed.
And holy shit! Was it good.
I still haven't seen it.
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Jadespring Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:26:36am |
I just discovered another joy of rural living.
Coyotes in heat that.... um....'bug'....your dog.
Thought I would share because it's just really bizarre and bit funny. My dog is not yet a year old and he's really confused as to why these 'weird' things keep happening whenever he goes outside.
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Obdicut Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:26:37am |
re: #167 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The first time I watched it, I thought that Jimmy Stewart was the hero, instead of the horse's ass.
"Hallie, haven't you ever seen a real rose?"
And Pompey is the most ethical character in the movie.
One of my favorites.
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cliffster Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:26:53am |
re: #171 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Oh, gee. So sorry.
He's still here, fat and happy. Cocktail's a bitch, but gotta love space-age medicine.
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:27:54am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:28:03am |
re: #170 NJDhockeyfan
Hold on to your fucking hat, pilgrim.
Reporter; "Who are the three greatest movie directors of all time?"
Orson Welles; "John Ford. John Ford. And John Ford.
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Obdicut Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:28:49am |
re: #179 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
And what movies did you watch before making Citizen Kane, Mr. Welles?
"Stagecoach, stagecoach, and stagecoach."
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Ericus58 Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:30:22am |
re: #162 SteveC
I was born in '66 with a Congenital Heart Defect (Tricuspid Atresia) so you could say it got here pissed off.
Like The Sons of Katie Elder:
"I think I hit him, he left here limping!"
"Son, he came here limping!"
I liked that movie!
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SteveC Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:33:26am |
re: #174 Mad Al-Jaffee
I still haven't seen it.
She: "I saw Titanic last night! What a movie! This - "
He: "Stop! I haven't seen it, don't give it away."
She: "The ship sinks in the end."
He: "Damn, woman! I asked you....!"
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ShaunP Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:35:58am |
This is interesting:
Study: Traffic congestion goes back up as economy recovers
There's really no good news about a recession, but if you really hate your commute (and you're not one of the millions of Americans out of work) at least traffic congestion subsides a bit. We don't know about you, but we'd rather see a strong economy even if it means a bit more cars on the road, and a new study by traffic and navigation services INRIX shows that may be what's happening.
The INRIX study shows modest improvements in traffic congestion as the country pulls out of its economic downturn. In 2008, traffic dropped off quite a bit from the all-time highs of 2007 due mostly to the recession coupled with $4 per gallon gasoline. The latest data for 2009 shows that four of the 10 most congested cites in the U.S. showed increased traffic in 2009, as drivers in New York, Los Angeles, Washington D.C. and Philadelphia all felt a bit more pain. Houston traffic actually decreased in 2009, as the Texas city dropped from fourth to sixth on the list of most congested cities. The areas with an at least a 10 percent increase in traffic congestion are Las Vegas, Baltimore and D.C. So in other words, gambling and lobbying likely increased in 2009.
The federal government's stimulus projects are also affecting traffic congestion. The INRIX study shows that construction projects have led to 25 percent higher traffic congestion during off-peak hours, and the majority of projects are courtesy of stimulus funds.
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:37:01am |
Last night Korea dropped a cute little nuke on the Japanese.
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cliffster Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:37:03am |
re: #182 SteveC
She: "I saw Titanic last night! What a movie! This - "
He: "Stop! I haven't seen it, don't give it away."
She: "The ship sinks in the end."
He: "Damn, woman! I asked you...!"
Rosebud was the sled...
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:37:13am |
South Africa's disclosure to the U.N. that it had confiscated North Korean arms marked the third interdiction since June, including weapons, above, that Thailand impounded in December.
The incident is likely to focus attention on China's role in enforcing sanctions against its ally and neighbor, with which it shares a long common border. China is by far North Korea's largest trading partner and its most important supplier of everything from food to fuel to consumer goods. China, a permanent member of the Security Council, voted in favor of the tighter sanctions that went into effect in June 2009.According a terse, two-page account delivered by the Pretoria government earlier this month to the U.N. committee overseeing the enforcement of U.N. Security Council sanctions imposed on North Korea, South African authorities in November seized two containers filled with tank parts and other military equipment from North Korea. The report said the containers, which were loaded on a ship in the Chinese port of Dalian and bound for the Republic of the Congo, contained gun sights, tracks and other spare parts for T-54 and T-55 tanks and other war material valued at an estimated $750,000.
The military equipment was concealed in containers lined with sacks of rice, said the confidential South African report, which was reviewed by The Wall Street Journal. Shipping documents identified the cargo as spare parts for a "bulldozer," according to the report, which said the goods were shipped by a North Korean company.
SNIP
This week's disclosure comes after Thailand in December seized a planeload of North Korean rocket-propelled grenades and other weapons apparently bound for Iran. Last summer, the United Arab Emirates seized a shipment of detonators and rocket launchers that U.N. officials say were shipped through Dalian and bound for Iran.
SNIP
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:37:35am |
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ShaunP Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:37:52am |
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:37:59am |
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Nervous Norvous Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:38:01am |
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:38:33am |
Rare Video Obtained By "60 Minutes" Shows Pentagon Employee Selling Secrets to Chinese Spy
...
In the videotape obtained by "60 Minutes", Gregg Bergersen, a civilian Pentagon worker with a high-security clearance, is shown taking money, about $2,000, from the Chinese spy, Tai Shen Kuo. Bergersen then discusses how he will let Kuo look at secret documents. The documents included the types of weapons the U.S. was selling to its ally Taiwan as well as plans for a classified command and control system that was going to be used by Taiwan.Bergersen clearly implicates himself on the videotape. "I'm very , very, very reticent to let you have it because it's all classified, but I will let you see it," he tells Kuo. "You know you can write all…the notes you want…it's just I can never let anyone know…I’d get fired for sure on that,” says Bergersen. "Well, not even get fired, I’d go to *** jail!"
That's where Bergersen is now, serving almost five years in federal prison for communicating national defense information. Kuo, a naturalized American citizen, was given 15 years for espionage. Both men pleaded guilty after being shown the tape and other evidence against them.
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SteveC Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:39:19am |
Anyone ever see A Night to Remember? I forgot what it was about.... :)
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Obdicut Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:40:57am |
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darthstar Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:42:10am |
re: #164 cliffster
Great movie. I cried like a little girl watching it, and I'm an insensitive asshole. Of course, I saw it maybe 6 months after my bro told me he had contracted HIV, which was a death sentence back then. So can't claim too many in-touch-with-my-sensitive-side points there.
There are two kinds of people who watched Philadelphia. Those who cried watching it, and those who lie and say they didn't cry when they watched it.
Good to hear your brother's still around.
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darthstar Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:42:54am |
re: #184 Alouette
Last night Korea dropped a cute little nuke on the Japanese.
Is that an Olympics metaphor?
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Bubblehead II Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:44:26am |
Well time to get ready for w*rk. Have a good day Lizards. Stay warm.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:45:18am |
Va. man accused of helping smuggle Somalis into U.S.
Authorities are searching for 270 Somalis believed to have entered the U.S. illegally with the help of a Virginia man who admitted contacts with an Islamic terrorist group.
An Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent said his agency had yet to locate any of the suspected illegal immigrants.
According to an affidavit filed in Alexandria's federal court, Anthony Joseph Tracy told authorities that he came in contact with the Somali terrorist organization Al-Shabaab, which announced an alliance with al Qaeda earlier this year.
ICE Agent Thomas Eyre testified during a hearing that authorities are "concerned" about the 35-year-old's dealings with the group.
In an e-mail, Tracy reportedly wrote, "i helped alot of somalis and most are good but there are some who are bad and i leave them to ALLAH," the affidavit said.
He has been held without bail. Tracy's attorney, Geremy Kamens, declined to comment for this story.
270 Somalis loose in the US. What could possibly go wrong?
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lawhawk Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:49:36am |
re: #182 SteveC
It's deep, and I don't think it's playable (kinda like the NYC metro area, which is continuing to get buried under this Nor'easter that just wont quit).
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lawhawk Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:50:00am |
re: #191 Obdicut
[Link: 2010games.nytimes.com...]
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:50:24am |
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lawhawk Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:50:48am |
re: #197 darthstar
Yes - the Korean won the ladies figure skating; the Japanese skater finished with the silver, and the Canadian won the bronze.
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:51:19am |
re: #199 NJDhockeyfan
Va. man accused of helping smuggle Somalis into U.S.
270 Somalis loose in the US. What could possibly go wrong?
His name doesn't indicate that he's a Muslim but, the bit about leaving them to "ALLAH" gives it away.
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:51:40am |
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:54:45am |
re: #203 lawhawk
Yes - the Korean won the ladies figure skating; the Japanese skater finished with the silver, and the Canadian won the bronze.
I was surprised that nobody mentioned the Japanese girl who won the gold medal four years ago, even though they did mention that a Japanese girl won the silver in 1994. Maybe her gold medal is "tainted" because the contending prima donnas fell on their butts.
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rwdflynavy Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:55:00am |
Good Morning Lizards!
I have a present for SanFranZionist....
"The problem with Socialism is that eventually, you run out of other people's money"
Margaret Thatcher.
Enjoy!!!!
//
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:55:29am |
re: #204 MandyManners
His name doesn't indicate that he's a Muslim but, the bit about leaving them to "ALLAH" gives it away.
Sounds like they were sent by Al-Shabaab. Of course they might just be tourists. Wouldn't want to jump to conclusions.
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:57:22am |
Yousef's book, "Son of Hamas," written with Ron Brackin, will be published next Tuesday (Salt River Press). In it, the 32-year-old tells his entire life story for the first time and reveals the great secret he harbored for 14 years.
I first met Mosab Yousef, a Muslim, in July 2008, in California. He told me then about the dramatic upheaval in his life. In 1999, he began to draw closer to Christianity and a few years later converted. Haaretz Magazine published his story at the time, and Hamas immediately denied it vehemently. A year and a half later, Yousef, son of the Hamas leader in the West Bank, has decided to reveal the whole picture: For more than a decade he was an agent of Israel's Shin Bet security service. He was motivated not by economic gain or self-interest, but by sheer ideology.
SNIP
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:58:09am |
re: #208 NJDhockeyfan
Sounds like they were sent by Al-Shabaab. Of course they might just be tourists. Wouldn't want to jump to conclusions.
Gives me the warm-and-fuzzies.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 26, 2010 6:59:52am |
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simoom Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:02:49am |
re: #107 Bubblehead II
You know if you don't like the show, either change the channel or turn it off.
From the article:
Usually, if a show generates that many complaints odds are it had some help from an advocacy group that got its membership to take part in a mass mailing. We're not playing connect the dots here, but the first quote in Doyle's story about the high number of complaints involving "Family Guy" is from Dan Isett, a director of the Parents Television Council, a media watchdog group that is no fan of the show.
A decade ago the FCC would get ~350 complaints a year and by 2003 it jumped to ~240,000 almost entirely because of the Parents Television Council. By late 2004 they were responsible for 99.9% of all complaints -- I wouldn't be at all surprised if that were still the case.
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:02:57am |
re: #211 NJDhockeyfan
Jimmy Carter was unavailable for comment.
Maybe he's gearing up to shoot more cats.
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lawhawk Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:03:27am |
re: #211 NJDhockeyfan
Yes, it does appear that Yousef gets it. He understands that Israel has everything to lose by engaging in yet more prisoner swaps when those prisoners include mass murdering terrorists who have no intention of stopping their jihad against Israel.
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Jadespring Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:04:12am |
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:04:28am |
re: #107 Bubblehead II
You know if you don't like the show, either change the channel or turn it off.
"Family Guy" is freaking lame. "South Park" rules!
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:05:10am |
re: #214 lawhawk
Yes, it does appear that Yousef gets it. He understands that Israel has everything to lose by engaging in yet more prisoner swaps when those prisoners include mass murdering terrorists who have no intention of stopping their jihad against Israel.
He must be incredibly frustrated.
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darthstar Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:05:34am |
re: #212 simoom
A decade ago the FCC would get ~350 complaints a year and by 2003 it jumped to ~240,000 almost entirely because of the Parents Television Council. By late 2004 they were responsible for 99.9% of all complaints -- I wouldn't be at all surprised if that were still the case.
The Family Guy execs should start selling advertising to these religious groups, as their members apparently watch the show more than anyone else.
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:07:11am |
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albusteve Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:08:01am |
Let’s be clear: Pelosi would like to see Rangel go. Railing against him – a tax cheat running the tax-writing committee! – is a political goldmine for the GOP (which has already tried to embarrass House Democrats by forcing floor votes on Rangel’s gavel status). But prying him from Ways and Means is trickier than you’d think.
donks, politics trumps ethics every time...the Rangle crimewave etc
[Link: www.salon.com...]
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:09:42am |
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Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:12:08am |
re: #222 MandyManners
Her cat was bugging his birds.
He wrote an incredible note to her about it.
5/13/90
To Sybil,
Lamentably, I killed your cat while trying just to sting it. It was crouched, as usual, under one of our bird feeders & I fired from some distance with bird shot. It may ease your grief somewhat to know that the cat was buried properly with a prayer & that I’ll be glad to get you another of your choice.
I called & came by your house several times. We will be in the Dominican Republic until Thursday. I’ll see you then.
Love, Jimmy
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Jadespring Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:12:23am |
re: #222 MandyManners
I thought it was some sort of political analogy or phrase that I hadn't heard before.
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Randall Gross Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:13:08am |
Frank says:Here I stand hoping against hope that it's a chick with a low voice. -- At a concert in Beloit, Wisconsin 1968 or 69, when a guy in the audience yelled out, "Eat me Zappa".
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:13:37am |
re: #222 MandyManners
Her cat was bugging his birds.
He wrote an incredible note to her about it.
There is a link somewhere at LGF to the whole think.
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:14:15am |
re: #224 Jadespring
I thought it was some sort of political analogy or phrase that I hadn't heard before.
I'm sure the cat wished it were.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:14:32am |
re: #223 Guanxi88
No one ever credited Jimmy Carter with an excess of tact. Or accuracy, for that matter.
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Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:15:21am |
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albusteve Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:18:56am |
WAR!...
Libya's Muammar Gaddafi has called for a jihad, or holy war, against Switzerland, as an ongoing diplomatic row between the two nations heats up.
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]
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Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:21:15am |
re: #232 albusteve
WAR!...
Libya's Muammar Gaddafi has called for a jihad, or holy war, against Switzerland, as an ongoing diplomatic row between the two nations heats up.[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]
Ha! How can ANYONE take his threats seriously - the guy don't even know how to spell his own name:
Gaddafi
Khadafy
Kadhafi
Qaddafi
etc, etc.
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:21:33am |
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Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:24:05am |
re: #233 Guanxi88
Ha! How can ANYONE take his threats seriously - the guy don't even know how to spell his own name:
Gaddafi
Khadafy
Kadhafi
Qaddafi
etc, etc.
In the photo at the article - he looks like an over-fed, over the hill version of the late lamented Michael Jackson. With weird(er) hair, and poor hygiene.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:24:44am |
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darthstar Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:24:48am |
Speaking of fucktards, James Dobson is leaving Focus on the Family, but he's not going away...he's starting a new radio show with his son called "James Dobson on the Family"...(story on NPR now).
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Ericus58 Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:25:47am |
re: #223 Guanxi88
So the Peace Prize Jimmy takes a gun to a family pet just doing what it does normally...
What a cavalier letter and attitude it presents.
I await the hue and cry from our fellow animal lovers on LGF....
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Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:26:05am |
re: #236 Mad Al-Jaffee
I can hirez killer rabbit?
we haz training program
[Link: icanhascheezburger.com...]
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:26:37am |
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Feline Fearless Leader Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:28:09am |
re: #176 Obdicut
A movie full of flawed characters.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:28:46am |
Off to more meetings, more signings, more ... BLEH. Enjoy the day, lizards.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:29:36am |
Trash Talking the Taliban During Firefights
It's a remarkable combination of psychological warfare, political roundtable and trash-talking. Afghan soldiers and Taliban fighters taunt each other, debate each other and try to persuade each other almost daily over their radios, at times while even shooting at each other.
I came across the astonishing facet of the Afghan War while spending time with the 302nd kandak, or battalion, of the Afghan National Army. The foes chatter with each other over their Vietnam-era, two-way radio system. It's such an antiquated system that the Taliban and the Afghan forces share radio frequencies, and verbal barbs, as they try to kill or capture one another.
I asked Maj. Said Rahim Hakmal what they talk about. Politics, he said. "The Taliban will say things like why do you side with the Americans? Why do you sell out your country? You love Obama more than Afghanistan."
Hakmal said the standard response goes something like, "The Americans are here to help our country function again. They don't want to stay. They want to help, then leave. You should help, too."
Then the shooting starts.
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:29:46am |
re: #238 Ericus58
So the Peace Prize Jimmy takes a gun to a family pet just doing what it does normally...
What a cavalier letter and attitude it presents.
I await the hue and cry from our fellow animal lovers on LGF...
It's been a few years.
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Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:30:06am |
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:30:21am |
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albusteve Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:31:04am |
Joke of the Day
U.S. says does not seek crippling sanctions on Iran
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States said on Thursday it does not aim to impose crippling sanctions on Iran but rather to pressure the Iranian government to change course on its nuclear program while protecting ordinary people.
[Link: www.swissinfo.ch...]
pressure Iran...get it?...pressure them
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Jadespring Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:32:06am |
re: #238 Ericus58
Trying to get outraged but it's not working. It's Carter, not someone I normally think about or particularly care about one way or another. I know he's still alive but to me it's comes off as a historical bit of bizzaro trivia that pretty much any President has or eventually gets attached to them.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:32:54am |
The best coverage I saw on the health care debate/summit was on Red Eye. On the latest show, Gufeld started talking about it and said "Who am I trying to kid, I didn't watch a second of it. But I did watch this cat food commercial." Then he played a somewhat surreal catfood commercial and had a panel discussion on it. That's journalism!
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:33:06am |
re: #247 albusteve
Joke of the Day
U.S. says does not seek crippling sanctions on Iran
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States said on Thursday it does not aim to impose crippling sanctions on Iran but rather to pressure the Iranian government to change course on its nuclear program while protecting ordinary people.
[Link: www.swissinfo.ch...]
pressure Iran...get it?...pressure them
Whoa! The mullahs must be shaking in their turbans after that threat.
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:33:21am |
re: #247 albusteve
Joke of the Day
U.S. says does not seek crippling sanctions on Iran
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States said on Thursday it does not aim to impose crippling sanctions on Iran but rather to pressure the Iranian government to change course on its nuclear program while protecting ordinary people.
[Link: www.swissinfo.ch...]
pressure Iran...get it?...pressure them
See No. 178.
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Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:33:25am |
re: #248 Jadespring
Trying to get outraged but it's not working.
Well, then you're not trying hard enough. Go have a cup of coffee and come back at it again.
//
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:33:58am |
re: #237 darthstar
Speaking of fucktards, James Dobson is leaving Focus on the Family, but he's not going away...he's starting a new radio show with his son called "James Dobson on the Family"...(story on NPR now).
And speaking of fucktards, Charlie Rangel, one of the Senate's head fucktards, has had his chicken's finally come home to roost.
This would be the proper time for Rangel to step down or loose his chairmanship.
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:35:01am |
re: #253 Walter L. Newton
And speaking of fucktards, Charlie Rangel, one of the Senate's head fucktards, has had his chicken's finally come home to roost.
This would be the proper time for Rangel to step down or loose his chairmanship.
He blamed his staff.
Asshole needs to be taught a lesson in responsibility.
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Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:35:05am |
re: #253 Walter L. Newton
And speaking of fucktards, Charlie Rangel, one of the Senate's head fucktards, has had his chicken's finally come home to roost.
This would be the proper time for Rangel to step down or loose his chairmanship.
And you and I both know that the likelihood of either eventuality is very slim indeed. It's very nice and collegial and chummy up there. He'll be more carfeul next time.
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Feline Fearless Leader Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:35:08am |
Good morning lizards from sunny* Philadelphia.
A wee-bit icy today, with blowing snow and other things that keep the commuters away in droves. Most of my department is off (there's a alternating Friday off policy in effect) or working from home as I am.
Cup of tea in hand, purring cats on the couch, and just monitoring the database this morning.
* - Much like the sun never sets on the British Empire, there is always some spot in Philadelphia with direct sunlight every day. I also have a bridge over the Delaware for sale. We only charge people for using it to get *out* of New Jersey, not for going in.
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Jadespring Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:35:27am |
re: #252 Guanxi88
Well, then you're not trying hard enough. Go have a cup of coffee and come back at it again.
//
I've already had two cups, but okay, I'll have another one and give it a whirl again.
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Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:35:58am |
re: #254 MandyManners
He blamed his staff.
Asshole needs to be taught a lesson in responsibility.
That's precisely what the Honorable Mr. Rangel will say or think shortly before he cans the first of them.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:36:01am |
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Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:36:26am |
re: #257 Jadespring
I've already had two cups, but okay, I'll have another one and give it a whirl again.
Drink it faster - I find caffeine can really help me get my rage on, as the young people say.
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:36:55am |
re: #254 MandyManners
He blamed his staff.
Asshole needs to be taught a lesson in responsibility.
Fucktards stick together. The Senate is full of them.
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albusteve Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:37:06am |
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has announced that while Democrats have a number of options to complete health-care legislation, he may use the budget reconciliation process to do so. This would be an unprecedented, dangerous and historic mistake.
more proof of democrat desperation to pass a bill that too few people want...historic disconnect...I don't even care anymore, but I enjoy the entertainment angle of watching the feds makes complete ass's of themselves...seems last summers town hall meetings meant nothing to these bone headed bozos
[Link: online.wsj.com...]
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:37:24am |
re: #258 Guanxi88
That's precisely what the Honorable Mr. Rangel will say or think shortly before he cans the first of them.
He's already fired one.
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:37:46am |
re: #256 oaktree
Good morning lizards from sunny* Philadelphia.
A wee-bit icy today, with blowing snow and other things that keep the commuters away in droves. Most of my department is off (there's a alternating Friday off policy in effect) or working from home as I am.
Cup of tea in hand, purring cats on the couch, and just monitoring the database this morning.
* - Much like the sun never sets on the British Empire, there is always some spot in Philadelphia with direct sunlight every day. I also have a bridge over the Delaware for sale. We only charge people for using it to get *out* of New Jersey, not for going in.
Hey... who won first place in the String Band Division in this years parade?
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:37:58am |
re: #261 Walter L. Newton
Fucktards stick together. The Senate is full of them.
When's he up for re-election?
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Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:38:06am |
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:38:08am |
re: #253 Walter L. Newton
And speaking of fucktards, Charlie Rangel, one of the Senate's head fucktards, has had his chicken's finally come home to roost.
This would be the proper time for Rangel to step down or loose his chairmanship.
Let's put another fucktard on the fire...
Paterson Bowing Out of Campaign for N.Y. Governor
ABC News’ Rick Klein reports: Embattled New York Gov. David Paterson has decided to end his campaign for a full term as governor, following a series of damaging revelations that had badly eroded his political standing, a Democrat close to the governor tells ABC News.
...
Paterson’s decision comes just days after The New York Times reported that the governor injected himself into the legal process surrounding a domestic violence episode involving a top aide. The Times also reported that the governor’s State Police security detail visited with the alleged victim despite not having jurisdiction.
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Feline Fearless Leader Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:38:14am |
re: #253 Walter L. Newton
We can hope I guess for the wrist-slaps without punishment to change to a more serious belief among our representatives that they act ethical. Seems often that the term "leading by exampled" is not understood and instead substituted for by "do as I say, not as I do".
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Jadespring Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:38:24am |
re: #260 Guanxi88
Drink it faster - I find caffeine can really help me get my rage on, as the young people say.
I find drinking lots just makes me spend more time in the bathroom.....
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Stonemason Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:38:40am |
re: #264 Walter L. Newton
Hey... who won first place in the String Band Division in this years parade?
Fralanger's
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Stonemason Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:39:26am |
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Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:39:30am |
re: #269 Jadespring
I find drinking lots just makes me spend more time in the bathroom...
Okay - here's another tip:
Start smoking, then suddenly stop, cold-turkey. That little tip has helped many a normal and stable person go absolutely berserk.
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:39:31am |
re: #266 Guanxi88
See? Problem solved.
//
I wonder whom he'll fire once the investigation into his tax problems and problems with those Manhattan apartments is completed.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:39:38am |
re: #254 MandyManners
He blamed his staff.
Asshole needs to be taught a lesson in responsibility.
The phrase "It's not my fault" is used from the WH on down through the ranks.
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:39:59am |
re: #262 albusteve
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has announced that while Democrats have a number of options to complete health-care legislation, he may use the budget reconciliation process to do so. This would be an unprecedented, dangerous and historic mistake.
more proof of democrat desperation to pass a bill that too few people want...historic disconnect...I don't even care anymore, but I enjoy the entertainment angle of watching the feds makes complete ass's of themselves...seems last summers town hall meetings meant nothing to these bone headed bozos
[Link: online.wsj.com...]
What's the problem, if I remember correctly, there has been 21 bill passed by using the reconciliation process, and 16 of those times it was instigated by the GOP.
What's good for the goose...
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darthstar Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:40:04am |
re: #244 MandyManners
It's been a few years.
It's only been twenty years...that's fresh meat for Republican outrage. And given their performance at the Health Care Summit yesterday, it wouldn't surprise me to see them reach that far back for some kind of distraction from their "Fuck, we asked for the cameras and got them again" reality check. From McCain's "oops I pooped my pants" look when President Obama agreed with him while he was in middle of his rant and he sat back down, silently befuddled to Cantor's "Damn, I do look like an idiot with a prop" realization when, before he spoke, the President called attention to said prop on the table before him, to Boehner's pouting as he got dressed down not just by the President, but by Speaker Pelosi....
So yeah, I can see why someone might want to make a big deal out of Jimmy Carter killing a cat in 1990...what else do they have?
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:40:08am |
re: #267 NJDhockeyfan
Some folks need to go to prison over that.
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Feline Fearless Leader Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:40:48am |
re: #264 Walter L. Newton
Hey... who won first place in the String Band Division in this years parade?
I presume you're referring to the Mummers. No idea. I'm not a native and a few years back I stumbled into that area on the wrong day and was wondering why the traffic was a total mess and why everyone was dressed weirdly... worked it out for myself right after I got back home.
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:40:49am |
re: #274 NJDhockeyfan
The phrase "It's not my fault" is used from the WH on down through the ranks.
Truman is spinning.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:41:12am |
re: #265 MandyManners
When's he up for re-election?
Doesn't matter
That district will send him back to congress for as long as he wants it (akin to a Kennedy running for anything in Massachusetts)
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:41:21am |
re: #271 Stonemason
Actually Fralinger's
I was going to correct. Most here on LGF knows I marked for Tribley and Duffy back in the 60'-early 70's.
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:42:10am |
re: #276 darthstar
It's only been twenty years...that's fresh meat for Republican outrage. And given their performance at the Health Care Summit yesterday, it wouldn't surprise me to see them reach that far back for some kind of distraction from their "Fuck, we asked for the cameras and got them again" reality check. From McCain's "oops I pooped my pants" look when President Obama agreed with him while he was in middle of his rant and he sat back down, silently befuddled to Cantor's "Damn, I do look like an idiot with a prop" realization when, before he spoke, the President called attention to said prop on the table before him, to Boehner's pouting as he got dressed down not just by the President, but by Speaker Pelosi...
So yeah, I can see why someone might want to make a big deal out of Jimmy Carter killing a cat in 1990...what else do they have?
Ummm...how about looking at the context this morning? No one's bringing it up in the MFM. I did. BFD.
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:42:31am |
re: #281 Walter L. Newton
I was going to correct. Most here on LGF knows I marked for Tribley and Duffy back in the 60'-early 70's.
MARKED... I mean marched.
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Stonemason Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:42:37am |
re: #281 Walter L. Newton
I was going to correct. Most here on LGF knows I marked for Tribley and Duffy back in the 60'-early 70's.
Then I saw you...I never missed a parade from about 1973 till 1984.
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ShaunP Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:42:41am |
re: #277 MandyManners
Some folks need to go to prison over that.
If there were real consequences for this crap, maybe corruption wouldn't be so common...
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:42:52am |
re: #280 sattv4u2
Doesn't matter
That district will send him back to congress for as long as he wants it (akin to a Kennedy running for anything in Massachusetts)
Don't look now but,...
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darthstar Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:43:08am |
re: #253 Walter L. Newton
And speaking of fucktards, Charlie Rangel, one of the Senate's head fucktards, has had his chicken's finally come home to roost.
This would be the proper time for Rangel to step down or loose his chairmanship.
Sorry...didn't realize you were a Dobson fan. Didn't mean to offend...wait...yes I did. never mind.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:43:13am |
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:43:44am |
re: #285 ShaunP
If there were real consequences for this crap, maybe corruption wouldn't be so common...
This is not just corruption. It's putting women at risk for further violence.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:44:03am |
re: #276 darthstar
Are you offended that Jimmy Carter's cat killing was brought up today?
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albusteve Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:44:06am |
re: #275 Walter L. Newton
What's the problem, if I remember correctly, there has been 21 bill passed by using the reconciliation process, and 16 of those times it was instigated by the GOP.
What's good for the goose...
I don't care anymore what happens...I'm planning ahead, I'm way out in front of this HCR clusterfuck...of course I have one leg up on most people
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:44:10am |
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:44:42am |
re: #278 oaktree
I presume you're referring to the Mummers. No idea. I'm not a native and a few years back I stumbled into that area on the wrong day and was wondering why the traffic was a total mess and why everyone was dressed weirdly... worked it out for myself right after I got back home.
Come on... You stumbled into that on the WRONG DAY. That was probably the most important day of your life and you missed a life changing opportunity. Go learn how to play the accordion or banjo or some other String Band instrument, join a band and march to a different drummer.
It will change your life (and you probably will look darling in sequins and lame')
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darthstar Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:44:46am |
re: #290 NJDhockeyfan
Are you offended that Jimmy Carter's cat killing was brought up today?
nah...I'm offended that he killed a cat...I like cats.
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albusteve Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:45:30am |
re: #276 darthstar
It's only been twenty years...that's fresh meat for Republican outrage. And given their performance at the Health Care Summit yesterday, it wouldn't surprise me to see them reach that far back for some kind of distraction from their "Fuck, we asked for the cameras and got them again" reality check. From McCain's "oops I pooped my pants" look when President Obama agreed with him while he was in middle of his rant and he sat back down, silently befuddled to Cantor's "Damn, I do look like an idiot with a prop" realization when, before he spoke, the President called attention to said prop on the table before him, to Boehner's pouting as he got dressed down not just by the President, but by Speaker Pelosi...
So yeah, I can see why someone might want to make a big deal out of Jimmy Carter killing a cat in 1990...what else do they have?
all that for nothing...try again
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:46:06am |
re: #284 Stonemason
Then I saw you...I never missed a parade from about 1973 till 1984.
Jan. 1974 would have been the last time I marched, moved from North Jersey to Texas in spring 1974. No one in Texas ever saw men in feathers, marching with accordions and banjo's.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:46:19am |
Hezbollah’s Nasrallah Met Syrian, Iranian Leaders in Damascus
Feb. 26 (Bloomberg) -- Hassan Nasrallah, Hezbollah’s leader, met Syrian President Bashar al-Assad yesterday who was hosting his Iranian counterpart, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
Assad held a banquet late yesterday for the Iranian president, who is on a two-day visit to Syria, and the head of the Shiite Muslim movement, the state-run Syrian Arab News Agency reported.
Nothing like a murderers summit to end the month.
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Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:46:43am |
re: #297 Walter L. Newton
Jan. 1974 would have been the last time I marched, moved from North Jersey to Texas in spring 1974. No one in Texas ever saw men in feathers, marching with accordions and banjo's.
Well, there's always Austin....
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:46:59am |
re: #290 NJDhockeyfan
Are you offended that Jimmy Carter's cat killing was brought up today?
Nah. Just 152 words.
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Jadespring Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:47:17am |
re: #272 Guanxi88
Okay - here's another tip:
Start smoking, then suddenly stop, cold-turkey. That little tip has helped many a normal and stable person go absolutely berserk.
Uh I quite cold turkey about a week and half ago and already went through that stage. Please don't suggest that I start again just to get some Carter rage going. It's tough enough as it is.
Though I suppose it would be a really interesting excuse to give into the cravings I still have. ''But, but...Carter...cats!!!"
///
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Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:47:20am |
re: #298 NJDhockeyfan
Hezbollah’s Nasrallah Met Syrian, Iranian Leaders in Damascus
Nothing like a murderers summit to end the month.
Regular meeting of Amalgamated Butchers, Local 666
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sattv4u2 Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:47:41am |
re: #292 MandyManners
That's not the point.
Sorry then. I must have missed it
My point was rangle gets re-elected in that district no matter what he did
a-la Barney Frank/ Ted Kennedy/ Gerry Studds
New York (like Massachusetts and elsewhere) has a long history of re-electing people back to office
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Stonemason Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:47:52am |
re: #297 Walter L. Newton
Jan. 1974 would have been the last time I marched, moved from North Jersey to Texas in spring 1974. No one in Texas ever saw men in feathers, marching with accordions and banjo's.
you would have been shot in Texas. Heck, anytime other than a few days around Jan.1 you would have been treated poorly in Philly as well.
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Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:47:57am |
re: #301 Jadespring
Uh I quite cold turkey about a week and half ago and already went through that stage. Please don't suggest that I start again just to get some Carter rage going. It's tough enough as it is.
Though I suppose it would be a really interesting excuse to give into the cravings I still have. ''But, but...Carter...cats!!!"
///
Good on ya - I've tried quitting many times, indeed. I eventually just moved over to substitution.
To each his own.
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Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:50:33am |
re: #301 Jadespring
Uh I quite cold turkey about a week and half ago and already went through that stage. Please don't suggest that I start again just to get some Carter rage going. It's tough enough as it is.
Though I suppose it would be a really interesting excuse to give into the cravings I still have. ''But, but...Carter...cats!!!"
///
Dammit! Don't talk to me about willpower and commitment and my health! Jimmy F*cking Carter shot a cat back in '90! I needs me a smoke!
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Stonemason Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:50:34am |
re: #305 Guanxi88
Good on ya - I've tried quitting many times, indeed. I eventually just moved over to substitution.
To each his own.
For those trying to quit (with stable minds) Chantix works. The dreams are great (in an LSD way) and about two weeks in you realize you are getting nothing from the cigarette you are smoking...over two years with out after one month of chantix.
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darthstar Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:50:44am |
re: #295 albusteve
all that for nothing...try again
Okay...
It's only been twenty years...that's fresh meat for Republican outrage. And given their performance at the Health Care Summit yesterday, it wouldn't surprise me to see them reach that far back for some kind of distraction from their "Fuck, we asked for the cameras and got them again" reality check. From McCain's "oops I pooped my pants" look when President Obama agreed with him while he was in middle of his rant and he sat back down, silently befuddled to Cantor's "Damn, I do look like an idiot with a prop" realization when, before he spoke, the President called attention to said prop on the table before him, to Boehner's pouting as he got dressed down not just by the President, but by Speaker Pelosi...
So yeah, I can see why someone might want to make a big deal out of Jimmy Carter killing a cat in 1990...what else do they have?
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:52:26am |
Good news!
WASHINGTON -- The House of Representatives reauthorized the Patriot Act for one year Thursday.
The vote was 315-97 .
Many liberals in the House opposed the controversial act, saying it tramps Constitutional protections and civil liberties.
Congress adopted the Patriot Act shortly after September 11th.
Many lawmakers wanted to rewrite or even kill some of the most controversial provisions in the act. But Congressional leaders didn’t have the appetite for a major battle with the economy and health care reform swinging in the balance.
Many of the renewed provisions involve wiretaps and eavesdropping measures.
The Senate ok'd the package earlier this week. President Obama is expected to sign the bill into law.
I expect massive outrage if Obama signs the bill.
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Feline Fearless Leader Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:54:05am |
re: #293 Walter L. Newton
You'd probably be right.
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albusteve Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:54:12am |
re: #308 darthstar
Okay...
It's only been twenty years...that's fresh meat for Republican outrage. And given their performance at the Health Care Summit yesterday, it wouldn't surprise me to see them reach that far back for some kind of distraction from their "Fuck, we asked for the cameras and got them again" reality check. From McCain's "oops I pooped my pants" look when President Obama agreed with him while he was in middle of his rant and he sat back down, silently befuddled to Cantor's "Damn, I do look like an idiot with a prop" realization when, before he spoke, the President called attention to said prop on the table before him, to Boehner's pouting as he got dressed down not just by the President, but by Speaker Pelosi...
So yeah, I can see why someone might want to make a big deal out of Jimmy Carter killing a cat in 1990...what else do they have?
really focused on that silly dog and pony show...it means nothing...people are spoofing on Carter, so what...he deserves it...your summit retorts are pretty whimpy, since in reality it's even less important
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Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:54:53am |
re: #308 darthstar
darth:
The Carter cat killin' thing came up in this thread, as part of a discussion of a Palestinian Arab from a prominent political family expressing his wish to joinm the IDF and liberate an Israeli soldier held hostage.
Given the estimable Mr. Carter's role in negotiating the slow-motion riot that is the Israeli-Palestinian problem, and his stated disdain for the "apartheid state" of israel, a little quip of "Carter was not available for comment" was tossed out there.
No one is suggesting that Carter shooting his sister's cat is a sufficiently important topic to preclude discussing the proposed health insurance reform. I will note, however, that Carter accomplished more that one day back in 1990 than has been accomplished, to date, on the matter of health care.
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darthstar Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:55:38am |
re: #309 NJDhockeyfan
Good news!
I expect massive outrage if Obama signs the bill.
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Yep...seeing as how a few of the provisions in that bill have been useful in recent months (more terrorists caught than in the previous eight years), it makes sense to keep it around...besides, where the hell are they going to find the time to fix the problems in the Patriot Act when they're still bogged down getting up the balls to pass Health Care Reform?
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Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:56:08am |
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MrSilverDragon Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:56:19am |
Good morning, folks!
I've discovered the formula for my life this week:
while (awake) do { work; }
I am ready for the week to be over.
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albusteve Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:56:33am |
NICE humps, full lips and a shiny body — these are just some of the qualities required for females
Read more: [Link: www.thesun.co.uk...]
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cliffster Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:56:34am |
re: #308 darthstar
Latest left-wing tactic: try to make it seem like the right wing is making a big deal out of something that it is not making a big deal out of.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:57:11am |
re: #313 darthstar
Yep...seeing as how a few of the provisions in that bill have been useful in recent months (more terrorists caught than in the previous eight years), it makes sense to keep it around...besides, where the hell are they going to find the time to fix the problems in the Patriot Act when they're still bogged down getting up the balls to pass Health Care Reform?
Maybe they should shelve health care reform and concentrate on jobs, economy, and security.
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Stonemason Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:57:38am |
re: #317 cliffster
Latest left-wing tactic: try to make it seem like the right wing is making a big deal out of something that it is not making a big deal out of.
outrageous outrage of the day, so to speak.
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Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:58:07am |
re: #318 NJDhockeyfan
Maybe they should shelve health care reform and concentrate on jobs, economy, and security.
Well, two of those three haven't exactly performed to expectations in all cases. Maybe just stick to security - they inherited a pretty good apparatus there.
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albusteve Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:58:53am |
re: #319 Stonemason
outrageous outrage of the day, so to speak.
it's latent anger...they just can't join in the fun, they are too sensitive
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darthstar Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:59:35am |
re: #317 cliffster
Latest left-wing tactic: try to make it seem like the right wing is making a big deal out of something that it is not making a big deal out of.
Guilty as charged, your honor.
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Randall Gross Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:59:38am |
re: #313 darthstar
Ok let's keep it honest here.
Obama is doing a great job on terror, and if he continues the pace of killing and capturing AQAM members then he will end up capturing and killing more than President Bush did after 8 yrs. President Obama's pace in matters pertaining to killing terrorists is commendable. He still has not killed or captured more terrorists than Bush did in his 8 years however.
A lizards we have a duty to be honest, please try to keep up the tradition.
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lawhawk Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:59:41am |
re: #253 Walter L. Newton
The proper time for him to have stepped down was following the multiple revelations that he didn't pay his taxes - as Chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee he was the one responsible for writing US tax policy in the House. That he couldn't figure out his own taxes shows just how screwed up everything tax related truly is. Of course, he thought he was above the law in multiple jurisidictions where he failed to pay taxes or considered himself a resident to take tax breaks that he wasn't entitled to.
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Obdicut Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:59:56am |
Sometimes the solution is to say "Fuck it" and plow straight ahead.
[Link: www.frogsoda.com...]
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simoom Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:00:08am |
re: #275 Walter L. Newton
What's the problem, if I remember correctly, there has been 21 bill passed by using the reconciliation process, and 16 of those times it was instigated by the GOP.
What's good for the goose...
It's a spin war in the media that I think the GoP is currently winning.
The way they would like it framed, and the way I've mostly seen it reported in the media, is that it would be an unprecedented use of reconciliation "ramming" a 2000+ page bill through with a simple majority in the Senate. The reason I put ramming in quotes is that seems to be the verb of choice used by reporters yesterday.
What actually is likely to happen though, is the 2000+ page Senate bill, that already passed the Senate by that oh-so-important 60 vote margin, would be passed by the House as is and signed into law by the President. Shortly after a new, much smaller bill (based off of the 11 page document the President put out recently), which is essentially a number of tweaks to the first bill, would be passed through Senate reconciliation. Both the scope of that follow-on bill and the fact that it deals with healthcare would be consistent with previous uses of reconciliation.
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Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:01:49am |
re: #326 simoom
In summary, then - both houses are majoritarian. Why not just have one body, in that case?
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lawhawk Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:02:15am |
re: #313 darthstar
See Thanos' comments above. Further, note that the Bush Administration pretty much had to start from square 1 on how to gather intel on AQ and the Taliban, so that eight years later we now have a serious capability in place that the Obama Administration can build on. Intel gathered in the past nine years makes it easier for the Obama Administration to get more terrorists - as we've figured out how and where they communicate, travel, and hide.
Intel builds on successful intel gathering - it's a multiplier effect. Kudos go to the Obama Administration for getting it done and keeping up the pace.
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Stonemason Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:02:34am |
re: #323 Thanos
Ok let's keep it honest here.
Obama is doing a great job on terror, and if he continues the pace of killing and capturing AQAM members then he will end up capturing and killing more than President Bush did after 8 yrs. President Obama's pace in matters pertaining to killing terrorists is commendable. He still has not killed or captured more terrorists than Bush did in his 8 years however.
A lizards we have a duty to be honest, please try to keep up the tradition.
I always buy into that number because I like the fact that the killing of terrorists has not stopped. It is fun to make a true liberal realize they are using this as a plus for Mr. Obama, and that I agree with them.
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cliffster Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:02:56am |
re: #322 darthstar
Guilty as charged, your honor.
I sentence you to one year of CHILLING THE F*** OUT!! ahem ;)
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simoom Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:03:02am |
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Jadespring Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:03:18am |
re: #317 cliffster
Latest left-wing tactic: try to make it seem like the right wing is making a big deal out of something that it is not making a big deal out of.
There's no tactic. The whole line of the 'cat' discussion started because I didn't know what Mandy was referring too with her comment so I asked. I though it was some political phrase that I just hadn't heard before. I wasn't suggesting that Mandy or anyone was trying to make a big deal about anything or trying to do anything. From there it just turned into a silly little riff about Carter and cats and whatever.
Don't make a big deal about people trying to make a big deal about people who are not trying to make big deal and turning into into some sort of partisan bull deal. There is no deal.
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ShaunP Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:03:54am |
re: #328 lawhawk
See Thanos' comments above. Further, note that the Bush Administration pretty much had to start from square 1 on how to gather intel on AQ and the Taliban, so that eight years later we now have a serious capability in place that the Obama Administration can build on. Intel gathered in the past nine years makes it easier for the Obama Administration to get more terrorists - as we've figured out how and where they communicate, travel, and hide.
Intel builds on successful intel gathering - it's a multiplier effect. Kudos go to the Obama Administration for getting it done and keeping up the pace.
That and pointing your resources where your real enemies are make for a successful strategy...
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Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:03:56am |
re: #332 Jadespring
Don't make a big deal about people trying to make a big deal about people who are not trying to make big deal and turning into into some sort of partisan bull deal. There is no deal.
That coffee finally kicked in, eh?
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lawhawk Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:04:09am |
re: #318 NJDhockeyfan
Pelosi tried to frame the health care debate as a jobs bill - that it would create more jobs.
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:04:37am |
re: #298 NJDhockeyfan
Hezbollah’s Nasrallah Met Syrian, Iranian Leaders in Damascus
Nothing like a murderers summit to end the month.
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albusteve Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:05:05am |
re: #325 Obdicut
Sometimes the solution is to say "Fuck it" and plow straight ahead.
[Link: www.frogsoda.com...]
gotta give 'em credit for the waterproof engine!
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:05:32am |
Exclusive: What happens next in health care
After a brief period of consultation following the White House health reform summit, congressional Democrats plan to begin making the case next week for a massive, Democrats-only health care plan, party strategists told POLITICO.
A Democratic official said the six-hour summit was expected to “give a face to gridlock, in the form of House and Senate Republicans.”
Democrats plan to begin rhetorical, and perhaps legislative, steps toward the Democrats-only, or reconciliation, process early next week, the strategists said.
Surprise!
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:05:34am |
re: #303 sattv4u2
Sorry then. I must have missed it
My point was rangle gets re-elected in that district no matter what he did
a-la Barney Frank/ Ted Kennedy/ Gerry StuddsNew York (like Massachusetts and elsewhere) has a long history of re-electing people back to office
If it can come to an end in Massachusetts, it can come to an end elsewhere.
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:05:34am |
re: #324 lawhawk
The proper time for him to have stepped down was following the multiple revelations that he didn't pay his taxes - as Chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee he was the one responsible for writing US tax policy in the House. That he couldn't figure out his own taxes shows just how screwed up everything tax related truly is. Of course, he thought he was above the law in multiple jurisidictions where he failed to pay taxes or considered himself a resident to take tax breaks that he wasn't entitled to.
I really don't want him to step down. I prefer to have him standing there all the time as a reminder of the total dishonesty of our politicians.
I don't want to make Rangel go away. I don't want any politician that has been guilty of anything to go away.
The longer we let them run slipshod all over the citizens of this country, the harder they will fall when the public finally has enough.
Rangel is another poster child for the kleptocracy.
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Jadespring Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:05:49am |
re: #334 Guanxi88
That coffee finally kicked in, eh?
Ha! It must have. Now if you'll excuse me I have to take a bathroom break....
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:06:22am |
re: #308 darthstar
Oh, for fuck's sake. The whole thing started as a bit of humor.
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windsagio Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:07:08am |
re: #339 MandyManners
You realize right, that it ended in MA because the guy died :p
/unless you think Brown would have beaten Kennedy >>
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cliffster Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:07:26am |
re: #332 Jadespring
Don't make a big deal about people trying to make a big deal about people who are not trying to make big deal and turning into into some sort of partisan bull deal. There is no deal.
Deal? What deal?
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:08:00am |
re: #338 NJDhockeyfan
Exclusive: What happens next in health care
Surprise!
This would be a good time for the President to put in the public option and all the other things the House wanted. This thing is going to happen, so why don't the Dems take advantage of it and fulfill their promises to the voters?
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Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:08:10am |
re: #342 MandyManners
Oh, for fuck's sake. The whole thing started as a bit of humor.
How can anyone laugh when Americans are having to use their dead sister's dentures? Not, mind you, that there's any dental coverage, but still......
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sattv4u2 Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:09:11am |
re: #335 lawhawk
Pelosi tried to frame the health care debate as a jobs bill - that it would create more jobs.
It will
Government ones!
I'm starting a pool. Kick in $10. Guess the date when there are more people in the US that work for the gov't than the private sector. Closest person to the actual date takes all the cash (subject to tax withholding!!!)
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Randall Gross Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:09:24am |
re: #344 cliffster
Deal? What deal?
Isn't that Frederick Delancy Rumsfeld's "No Deal" -- gosh where were you in History class?
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windsagio Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:09:29am |
re: #346 Guanxi88
Oh god, I have to leave for my first dental appointment in like... forever in about 10 minutes. My 'dental insurance' covers 1000$ max a year, and I'm looking at several thousand dollars of work.
/not pleased.
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:09:48am |
re: #346 Guanxi88
How can anyone laugh when Americans are having to use their dead sister's dentures? Not, mind you, that there's any dental coverage, but still...
?
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Jadespring Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:10:14am |
re: #344 cliffster
Deal? What deal?
The deal about making a big deal about something that's not a big deal and therefore adding to the bigness of the illusionary deal that was never a deal in the first place.
Deal?
:D
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simoom Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:10:33am |
re: #327 Guanxi88
If the House passes the Senate bill as is, that particular bill will have already made it over the Senate Three-fifths majority hurdle. Or are you your making an argument against ever using reconciliation to modify existing legislation?
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Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:11:15am |
re: #349 windsagio
Oh god, I have to leave for my first dental appointment in like... forever in about 10 minutes. My 'dental insurance' covers 1000$ max a year, and I'm looking at several thousand dollars of work.
/not pleased.
Dental insurance is, in most cases, not worth the premiums.
Pay outta pocket whenever possible, and try to hammer out a better price for cash.
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goddamnedfrank Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:11:40am |
Sure, Atticus Finch shoots a rabid dog and he's the hero of Maycomb, but when Jimmy Carter shoots his sister-in-laws cat nobody considers that the cat might have been Hitler reincarnated?
Think sheeple!
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windsagio Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:11:54am |
re: #354 Guanxi88
the good news is the premium is almost nothing.... just so are the benefits :p
*just wanted to complain to somebody. goddamn dentists.
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albusteve Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:12:13am |
re: #345 Walter L. Newton
This would be a good time for the President to put in the public option and all the other things the House wanted. This thing is going to happen, so why don't the Dems take advantage of it and fulfill their promises to the voters?
chicken shit...image is more important, it's what gets you re-elected...AmIdol...they all turn guttless when their Seat is in jeopardy
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windsagio Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:12:25am |
re: #355 goddamnedfrank
Cut them some slack >> He's the most beloved President in US history!
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:12:41am |
re: #345 Walter L. Newton
This would be a good time for the President to put in the public option and all the other things the House wanted. This thing is going to happen, so why don't the Dems take advantage of it and fulfill their promises to the voters?
I hope they pass it immediately or else I might have to wear a dead relatives teeth.
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Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:12:55am |
re: #353 simoom
If the House passes the Senate bill as is, that particular bill will have already made it over the Senate Three-fifths majority hurdle. Or are you your making an argument against ever using reconciliation to modify existing legislation?
The Senate bill isn't the House bill, and vice versa. The proposal for reconciliation - as obvious a misuse of the term as possible - amounts to, in this case, little more than a simple majoritarianism facilitated by the executive branch.
I mean, it's all right if that's the way we're going to do things, but there's no point in pretending that's how these things are supposed to be done.
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brennant Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:13:31am |
re: #345 Walter L. Newton
You make a good point. If you are going to ignore the other side completely, you might as well just go balls to the wall.
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:13:38am |
BBIAB... one of the step-critters has decided that they don't want to spend the day at school... funny today is a math class... gotta go pick up the critter.
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Political Atheist Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:13:56am |
The data here is not so surprising, but the fact Drudge has a link to it is-An article in support of AGW!
[Link: www.dailyexpress.co.uk...]
CLIMATE scientists yesterday stunned Britons suffering the coldest winter for 30 years by claiming last month was the hottest January the world has ever seen.
SNIP
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windsagio Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:15:01am |
re: #363 Rightwingconspirator
Drudge should change his page to 2 spinning lights and a huge link that says
CLICK TO ACCESS THE ENTIRE INTERNET!
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lawhawk Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:16:27am |
NYS Governor Paterson is not running for reelection and may have bought himself an additional month in office by calling for AG Cuomo to investigate his contemptible actions in contacting the accuser of his top adviser (among other things).
Impeachment or resignation isn't out of the question - and if that happens, say hello to Richard Ravitch, the accidental lieutenant governor (who coincidentally was appointed by Paterson amid a flurry of lawsuits arguing that he didn't have that power - the courts ruled he did).
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:17:11am |
Woman: I Was Fired for Islamic Head Scarf
A Muslim woman claims that she was fired from her job at the Hollister store in San Mateo for refusing to take off her Islamic head scarf.
The woman, who asked to be identified only with her first name, Hani, said her manager fired her Monday for not following the company's dress code, called the "look policy." She says her Hajib, or Islamic head scarf, was not permitted by the dress code.
"I was really surprised, especially in the Bay Area, where everyone is so receptive and kind, that someone would discriminate against a religious group," she said.
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The Sanity Inspector Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:17:26am |
re: #19 freetoken
We Beautiful People out here in California don't stink.
"Welcome to Los Angeles. Do you have any physical imperfections to declare?"
-- airport customs official, in a John Callahan cartoon
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simoom Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:17:39am |
re: #345 Walter L. Newton
This would be a good time for the President to put in the public option and all the other things the House wanted. This thing is going to happen, so why don't the Dems take advantage of it and fulfill their promises to the voters?
I'd be shocked if it gets included. They're threading a needle between the Senate Blue Dogs, Stupak's House anti-abortion coalition and the more liberal House Dems. Of those groups, the latter seems most desperate to pass a bill, so I'm guessing: no public option, and abortion language that is going to infuriate the base.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:17:45am |
Joe Biden
"It's easy being vice president — you don't have to do anything."
At least he's qualified!
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lawhawk Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:18:08am |
re: #363 Rightwingconspirator
He's trying to claim that the science isn't in touch with what people in a particular region are experiencing.
Given that satellites can monitor temps around the entire globe - it's relatively easy to track temperature fluctuations now. So, just because the UK or the NE US is getting hammered by a bad winter (and currently experiencing another major snowstorm in NYC), it doesn't mean that temps globally aren't warmer than they have been on average.
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Feline Fearless Leader Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:18:58am |
re: #355 goddamnedfrank
Rabid dogs are threats, cats are your overlords. Carter is a threat to the status quo and he will be put down with an iron paw.
- "Patches" (having taken over the keyboard temporarily)
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darthstar Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:20:07am |
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:20:23am |
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:21:20am |
Cal Protesters Clash With Cops
Hundreds of student protesters in Berkeley took on riot police early Friday morning.
It was supposed to be a protest over fee hikes, but just after midnight, the students poured into the streets and the action became violent. Some of the protesters smashed windows, tossed news stands into the streets, turned over trash cans -- setting several of them on fire.
Some of the protesters dragged police barricades through the streets and were seen riding on cars and throwing objects at cops.
...Videographer Josh Wolff told us the protest started as a dance party at Sproul Plaza that spread to Durant Hall. Protesters took over the building and eventually filed out and marched up Telegraph Ave. A spokesman for the protesters who took over the building told The Daily Californian that the the protest was organized in support of a March 4 day of action against tuition fee hikes.
Campus police were overwhelmed and called in help from police across the East Bay. Video from the scene shows police hitting some of the protesters with batons. Oakland police are among those who sent assistance with more than a dozen officers on scene. The CHP also sent officers to assist.
On a blog, one protester said it's a "Real battle with cops, rioters winnin [sic]".
Police say the streets finally quieted down at about 3:30 a.m. The students said there were 300 rioters and only 25 police.
Berkeley police are telling NBC Bay Area that it was more like 200 protesters and three dozen officers.
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ShaunP Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:21:24am |
re: #371 lawhawk
He's trying to claim that the science isn't in touch with what people in a particular region are experiencing.
Given that satellites can monitor temps around the entire globe - it's relatively easy to track temperature fluctuations now. So, just because the UK or the NE US is getting hammered by a bad winter (and currently experiencing another major snowstorm in NYC), it doesn't mean that temps globally aren't warmer than they have been on average.
There was actually a pretty serious heat wave in Australia this past November...
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
"...The heat wave was caused by a combination of factors, including hot, dry winds caused by a slow-moving high-pressure system that had settled over the Tasman Sea, an El Niño event occurring in the pacific ocean, and gradually rising temperatures across southern Australia, probably as a result of global warming."
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Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:21:54am |
re: #369 simoom
I'd be shocked if it gets included. They're threading a needle between the Senate Blue Dogs, Stupak's House anti-abortion coalition and the more liberal House Dems. Of those groups, the latter seems most desperate to pass a bill, so I'm guessing: no public option, and abortion language that is going to infuriate the base.
In which case - why the Hell bother?
I mean, if he can't get even a half of a loaf with both houses of congress supposedly on-board, and with an American public crying out for the sweet saving balm of the Obama plan, then why even bother?
Threading a needle is harder than this should be. This ought o be like tying your shoes.
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Political Atheist Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:21:54am |
re: #371 lawhawk
Hi!
Well here we have a clear cut example of how additional energy in has all kinds of effects. The energy comes out and gets shifted around in unpredictable ways. Unpredictable in detail, I mean.
How are you doing with your big storm today?
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simoom Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:22:00am |
re: #360 Guanxi88
The Senate bill isn't the House bill, and vice versa.
It becomes the House bill if they pass it with no changes. It can then go to the President's desk for signing.
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:22:11am |
re: #372 oaktree
Rabid dogs are threats, cats are your overlords. Carter is a threat to the status quo and he will be put down with an iron paw.
- "Patches" (having taken over the keyboard temporarily)
Is Patches kin to Toonces?
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Stonemason Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:22:44am |
re: #371 lawhawk
He's trying to claim that the science isn't in touch with what people in a particular region are experiencing.
Given that satellites can monitor temps around the entire globe - it's relatively easy to track temperature fluctuations now. So, just because the UK or the NE US is getting hammered by a bad winter (and currently experiencing another major snowstorm in NYC), it doesn't mean that temps globally aren't warmer than they have been on average.
This is a warm winter in SE PA. Yeah, we got snow, but the local streams and rivers have almost no ice in them, which points to a warm winter. This is not to say that this is abnormal though, the local climate around here varies quite a bit.
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:23:10am |
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Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:23:42am |
re: #379 simoom
It becomes the House bill if they pass it with no changes. It can then go to the President's desk for signing.
And so, why don't both houses then vote on the thing, if it's the same damned bill?
Again, if we're going to use simple majority votes in both houses of congress, then the distinction becomes little more than one of office space and meeting places.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:23:56am |
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Stonemason Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:24:29am |
re: #375 NJDhockeyfan
Must have been some right wing tea party members in the crowd, that's the only way a riot would have started.
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albusteve Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:25:06am |
re: #382 MandyManners
When Moonbats go wild.
getting pissy?...smash window, burn cars and destroy someone else's property...it the Leftist Way
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:25:21am |
Diplomats from two major European allies said this week that China had refused even to “engage substantively” on the issue of sanctions, preferring to continue diplomatic efforts with Tehran. And one senior diplomat said he believed that the most likely outcome might be a decision by China to abstain from voting on a resolution in the United Nations Security Council.
“An abstention is better than a veto,” said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, citing the delicacy of the matter.
Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton expressed optimism this week that China was edging toward the American view that the time had come for tougher measures against Iran. But other administration officials acknowledged that her optimism was based less on tangible evidence than on a belief that China would not want to end up diplomatically isolated.
SNIP
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The Sanity Inspector Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:25:41am |
re: #367 NJDhockeyfan
The Daily Star of Lebanon chews over France's attempted ban on the Muslim headcoverings.
On the face of it, the French stand is hard to defend. Fewer than 2,000 women – the barest fraction of France’s estimated 5 million Muslims – actually wear the burqa. Taking away their freedom to make that choice contradicts the respect for individual rights which is at the heart of liberal democracy, argue the opponents of the ban. That many women appear to view their decision to wear the burqa as a religious obligation – according to orthodox Salafist tradition, the Prophet Mohammad’s wives dressed in that manner – only complicates the matter. In effect, it sets up any attack on the garment as an assault on the freedom of worship. Identifying the burqa as alien to French culture, say critics of the ban, will also fan xenophobic sentiment. What will be declared un-French next, they ask? The sari? The Sikh turban? Day-Glo bicycle shorts?[...]
However,[...] unlike the Americans, the French recognize that both the burqa and the hijab can be as much a political statement as a personal one. Islamists around the world – from national governments in Iran and Saudi Arabia to local authorities in Sharia-friendly places such as Indonesia’s Aceh province to non-governmental organizations like the Muslim Brotherhood and Pakistan’s Jamaat-e-Islami – uniformly demand that women cover their hair. For those adhering to such an outlook, the sight of a burqa on a Parisian bus or in a public hospital in Lyon is a sign that their cause is gaining ground. Like all utopian movements that seek to create the perfect society – in this case by seeking to impose God’s law on earth – radical Islam feeds off of symbols that appear to signal the ultimate victory of its advocates. Rolling back the wearing of the burqa, therefore, serves to contradict this triumphalist narrative.
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:25:48am |
re: #386 albusteve
getting pissy?...smash window, burn cars and destroy someone else's property...it the Leftist Way
Speaking troof to power.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:26:11am |
re: #385 Stonemason
Must have been some right wing tea party members in the crowd, that's the only way a riot would have started.
I swore I thought that was a story about the Berkeley Tea Party.
///
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:26:27am |
re: #385 Stonemason
Must have been some right wing tea party members in the crowd, that's the only way a riot would have started.
Ssshhh.
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darthstar Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:26:30am |
Jim Bunning shows his love for the unemployed:
Jim Bunning, a Republican from Kentucky, is single-handedly blocking Senate action needed to prevent an estimated 1.2 million American workers from prematurely losing their unemployment benefits next month.As Democratic senators asked again and again for unanimous consent for a vote on a 30-day extension Thursday night, Bunning refused to go along.
And when Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.) begged him to drop his objection, Politico reports, Bunning replied: "Tough shit."
Sweet. /
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Feline Fearless Leader Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:27:53am |
re: #380 MandyManners
Don't think so. She doesn't drive. Has fun riding in the elevator though.
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lawhawk Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:28:38am |
Current weather - live cams in NYC metro area:
[Link: www.myfoxny.com...]
This storm is expected to continue through the weekend in parts...
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darthstar Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:29:04am |
re: #385 Stonemason
Must have been some right wing tea party members in the crowd, that's the only way a riot would have started.
Can't blame the tea party for everything. Besides...how many tea party types are going to get accepted to Berkeley? You kind of have to have a high school diploma for that...and a decent SAT.
(/gross overgeneralization)
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Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:29:13am |
re: #392 darthstar
Jim Bunning shows his love for the unemployed:
Sweet. /
Do you think it's because he hates the unemployed, is deranged in some way, or might it be he had some other reason for blocking the LATEST extension of deficit-building unemployment benefits? Ya think maybe he had another idea?
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Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:29:43am |
re: #397 darthstar
Can't blame the tea party for everything. Besides...how many tea party types are going to get accepted to Berkeley? You kind of have to have a high school diploma for that...and a decent SAT.
(/gross overgeneralization)
Yeah - Berkeley dropped those standards ages ago.
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Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:30:06am |
re: #397 darthstar
Can't blame the tea party for everything. Besides...how many tea party types are going to get accepted to Berkeley? You kind of have to have a high school diploma for that...and a decent SAT.
(/gross overgeneralization)
Although I give ya an upding - that was pretty good.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:30:32am |
re: #398 Guanxi88
Do you think it's because he hates the unemployed, is deranged in some way, or might it be he had some other reason for blocking the LATEST extension of deficit-building unemployment benefits? Ya think maybe he had another idea?
Not to mention whatever else was attached to the bill
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:30:35am |
re: #398 Guanxi88
Do you think it's because he hates the unemployed, is deranged in some way, or might it be he had some other reason for blocking the LATEST extension of deficit-building unemployment benefits? Ya think maybe he had another idea?
Isn't it obvious? He's an eeevil right-wing Rethuglican who hates the working class. ///
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Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:30:51am |
re: #401 sattv4u2
Not to mention whatever else was attached to the bill
That's irrelevant - he had an R by his name. No other data are required.
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darthstar Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:31:10am |
re: #398 Guanxi88
Do you think it's because he hates the unemployed, is deranged in some way, or might it be he had some other reason for blocking the LATEST extension of deficit-building unemployment benefits? Ya think maybe he had another idea?
He argues he doesn't want to add the money to the deficit. Fiscal responsibility...apparently it can be applied on an ad hoc basis.
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Political Atheist Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:31:17am |
I suppose if we were in a AG Cooling trend many in a heat wave would claim bulls&*t. Of course the local conditions vary from the global! Duh. Ever observe the Sahara and the Arctic!!! )Rant off)
Something worth discussion with LVQ & some others around here-
Assemble a ranked list of many of the best reasons to embrace AGW as a problem to solve. From the strict science to the general quality of life.
Then assemble this parallel list of the most likely persuasive reasons to embrace, drawn from the above. See how the two lists rank differently.
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garhighway Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:31:28am |
re: #397 darthstar
Can't blame the tea party for everything. Besides...how many tea party types are going to get accepted to Berkeley? You kind of have to have a high school diploma for that...and a decent SAT.
(/gross overgeneralization)
Simple test: were there any misspelled racist signs on display? If not, no teabaggers.
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Stonemason Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:31:39am |
re: #397 darthstar
Can't blame the tea party for everything. Besides...how many tea party types are going to get accepted to Berkeley? You kind of have to have a high school diploma for that...and a decent SAT.
(/gross overgeneralization)
Oh my, sheesh, how could I forget that republicans are gullible, racist idiots. Please, forgive me.
No, I am not going to add the sarc tag. Some here really need to ratchet down the rhetoric. And no this is not directly pointed at you DeathStar.
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albusteve Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:31:53am |
re: #392 darthstar
Jim Bunning shows his love for the unemployed:
Sweet. /
then there's this part...
Bunning says he doesn't oppose extending benefits -- he just doesn't want the money that's required added to the deficit. He proposes paying for the 30-day extension with stimulus funds.
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simoom Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:32:08am |
re: #377 Guanxi88
Threading a needle is harder than this should be. This ought o be like tying your shoes.
It is harder than it should be, you're right. The needle hole would be much larger if the GOP wasn't enforcing party discipline on this issue (as it would likely have been far easier to find common ground with Sen. Snowe, Sen. Collins, Rep. Cao, Rep. Issa, etc instead of having to try and corral Baccus, Nelson, Landrieu, Stupak, etc).
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Donna Ballard Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:32:46am |
re: #402 NJDhockeyfan
Isn't it obvious? He's an eeevil right-wing Rethuglican(???) who hates the working class. ///
Ooooh now there's a new one I have not heard before! Since I'm jumping parties I'll have to wait to use that one but Ooooh the possibilities! :-)
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lawhawk Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:33:11am |
Get your snow totals here... get your snow totals here... I figure between last night and this morning, I had to shovel about 12-14 inches... and the batch I did last night was the concrete variety (the super heavy super wet variety). Overnight's accumulations are the lighter kind.
My folks lost power briefly overnight, along with quite a few Rockland Cty residents... Power is an issue all over the place because of downed trees, with a tree falling and killing a pedestrian in Central Park. And the snow keeps coming - some areas close to the city are looking at 2+ feet.
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Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:33:21am |
re: #404 darthstar
He argues he doesn't want to add the money to the deficit. Fiscal responsibility...apparently it can be applied on an ad hoc basis.
Frankly, at this point, I don't see why anyone would object to adding to the deficit. It's not as if anyone seriously expects us ever to be able to pay even the interest on it.
Piss it away, piss it away, piss it away now!
(His proposal was to use some of the unspent stimulus money. Didn't want anyone to go without benefits, but thought it might be nice to use a pool of funds that has already bloated the deficit rather than add yet another item to the tab.)
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:33:25am |
Marine Corps Commandant: Don't Change 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell'
One of the military's senior officers did not shy away from telling Congress this week that he thinks the current "don't ask, don't tell", law barring gays and lesbians from serving openly in the military should not be repealed.
Marine Corps Commandant Gen. James Conway told the Senate Armed Services Committee Thursday that he does not think the law should be changed.
"At this point, I think that the current policy works," Conway said. "My best military advice to this committee, to the secretary, to the president would be to keep the law such as it is."
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:33:46am |
re: #395 oaktree
Don't think so. She doesn't drive. Has fun riding in the elevator though.
I bet she'd surf it if she could lift up the panels.
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Stonemason Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:34:23am |
re: #409 simoom
It is harder than it should be, you're right. The needle hole would be much larger if the GOP wasn't enforcing party discipline on this issue (as it would likely have been far easier to find common ground with Sen. Snowe, Sen. Collins, Rep. Cao, Rep. Issa, etc instead of having to try and corral Baccus, Nelson, Landrieu, Stupak, etc).
wow...democrats force party line votes and that is a good thing, on the other side though, it shows some sort of deficiency. remember 60 to 40. That is lockstep on both sides.
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Donna Ballard Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:34:35am |
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simoom Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:35:02am |
re: #383 Guanxi88
And so, why don't both houses then vote on the thing, if it's the same damned bill?
That's exactly what will have happened. The Senate will have already passed the bill with a 60 vote margin. By passing a bill with identical language in the House, both bodies will have passed the legislation and the President can sign it.
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The Sanity Inspector Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:35:06am |
re: #375 NJDhockeyfan
Hey, they were informed that they'd actually have to pay for services received. Given their Berkeleyoid indoctrination, what else could they do but riot?
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Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:36:04am |
re: #419 simoom
That's exactly what will have happened. The Senate will have already passed the bill with a 60 vote margin. By passing a bill with identical language in the House, both bodies will have passed the legislation and the President can sign it.
Is this the usual procedure? Hardly.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:36:26am |
re: #408 albusteve
then there's this part...
Bunning says he doesn't oppose extending benefits -- he just doesn't want the money that's required added to the deficit. He proposes paying for the 30-day extension with stimulus funds.
Geee ,,, why didn't Darth mention that part !?!?!
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:36:48am |
re: #420 The Sanity Inspector
Hey, they were informed that they'd actually have to pay for services received. Given their Berkeleyoid indoctrination, what else could they do but riot?
They thought Obama was supposed to pick up the tab on their education, rent, car payments, cable, medical marijuana, etc...
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garhighway Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:37:00am |
re: #417 Stonemason
wow...democrats force party line votes and that is a good thing, on the other side though, it shows some sort of deficiency. remember 60 to 40. That is lockstep on both sides.
Any look at Congressional voting patterns over the last several years has to lead you to the conclusion that the Congressional R's are considerably more disciplined than the Congressional D's. I make no conclusion as to whether that is a good thing or bad thing, but to pretend that there is equivalence on that point is to ignore mathematical reality.
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Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:37:31am |
re: #422 sattv4u2
Geee ,,, why didn't Darth mention that part !?!?!
Gotta save the stimulus money for vote-buying client-bribing infrastructure improvements before the next election.
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albusteve Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:37:49am |
re: #422 sattv4u2
Geee ,,, why didn't Darth mention that part !?!?!
apparently he thinks nobody is looking while he jabs away...
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:38:07am |
re: #420 The Sanity Inspector
Hey, they were informed that they'd actually have to pay for services received. Given their Berkeleyoid indoctrination, what else could they do but riot?
Ah yes, Cal Berkeley. A laughable school, with no real scholars attached to it, or research or education taking place.
//
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William Barnett-Lewis Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:38:46am |
re: #384 NJDhockeyfan
How to buy and register a handgun in the District of Columbia: a survival guide
Yeesh. This is ridiculous. I hope the McDonald et al Vs. City of Chicago case will blow this kind of garbage even further away than Heller did. It would probably be best if we could get back to the post-34 pre-68 situation with respect to gun laws ...
William
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albusteve Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:38:48am |
re: #425 Guanxi88
Gotta save the stimulus money for
vote-buying client-bribinginfrastructure improvements before the next election.
Recovery!
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darthstar Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:39:17am |
re: #412 Guanxi88
Full economic recovery will require adding another couple of trillion dollars to the deficit. Whether it's done by this administration (egad, the black dude!) or by a Republican administration in the future (this would require the GOP be successful in blocking all legislation for the next four to eight years), it will have to be done. Quite frankly, it'd be easier to just let the Republicans take over and fix the economy (one big-assed permanent tax cut, or an end to taxes altogether) and let the free market do its magic (sell Oklahoma and Texas to Dubai and Saudi Arabia, and we can pay for health care!).
Yeah, I'm talking nonsense. But thinking we'll get out of this without spending more money is just as nonsensical.
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simoom Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:39:38am |
re: #421 Guanxi88
Is this the usual procedure? Hardly.
It isn't some novel parliamentary idea the Dems just came up with. It's always been an option if the House is willing to pass the Senate version of a bill as is.
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darthstar Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:40:04am |
re: #422 sattv4u2
Geee ,,, why didn't Darth mention that part !?!?!
Because I have an agenda...a nice one, with a leather cover.
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Feline Fearless Leader Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:40:33am |
re: #415 MandyManners
Given her previous encounters with dogs* I'd suspect that if she had her way she would get the door safeties removed, sharpen the doorways and sit with a paw on the "door close" button to see whether she could gullotine a few of the resident ones.
* - Patches came from a family that had another cat, a collie, and four shelties. The shelties herded her in a pack; e.g. whenever she left the safe room to eat or do something the dog pack would eventually appear and chase her back there. One reason I was willing to adopt her to act as the new roomie for the older cat whose picture I occasionally use as a avatar.
(And personally I don't think "Patches" is a good cat name. Beneath her dignity.)
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albusteve Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:41:24am |
re: #430 darthstar
Full economic recovery will require adding another couple of trillion dollars to the deficit. Whether it's done by this administration (egad, the black dude!) or by a Republican administration in the future (this would require the GOP be successful in blocking all legislation for the next four to eight years), it will have to be done. Quite frankly, it'd be easier to just let the Republicans take over and fix the economy (one big-assed permanent tax cut, or an end to taxes altogether) and let the free market do its magic (sell Oklahoma and Texas to Dubai and Saudi Arabia, and we can pay for health care!).
Yeah, I'm talking nonsense. But thinking we'll get out of this without spending more money is just as nonsensical.
typical liberal tripe...ho hum
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darthstar Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:41:24am |
re: #426 albusteve
apparently he thinks nobody is looking while he jabs away...
Truth is...I missed it in my haste to post something negative about a Republican.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:41:34am |
re: #430 darthstar
Full economic recovery will require adding another couple of trillion dollars to the deficit.
Spend, spend, spend!
Hove you ever spent you way out of debt?
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darthstar Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:41:58am |
re: #436 NJDhockeyfan
Spend, spend, spend!
Hove you ever spent you way out of debt?
Still working on it. :)
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:42:01am |
Fresh from an inconclusive meeting at the UN, where Argentina failed to secure anything other than a vague acknowledgement of its concerns, Buenos Aires has turned its gaze to Washington in its attempt to stop what it says are illegal British activities in the disputed islands.
The hastily scheduled meeting, announced by Hector Timerman, the Argentine Ambassador to Washington, will take place in Uruguay on Monday, when Mrs Clinton will attend the presidential inauguration of José Mujica. Argentina will be pressing the White House to drop its declared neutrality and support Buenos Aires in the dispute, which looks set to deteriorate further.
Why not? We sided with Chavez and Castro in Honduras.
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:42:34am |
re: #422 sattv4u2
Geee ,,, why didn't Darth mention that part !?!?!
The better to demonize Republicans, that's why.
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darthstar Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:42:51am |
re: #436 NJDhockeyfan
Spend, spend, spend!
Hove you ever spent you way out of debt?
It's the recovery that requires spending. The debt is a consequence of our actions to date.
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jaunte Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:42:53am |
re: #437 darthstar
The trick is to use someone else's credit card.
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darthstar Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:44:00am |
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albusteve Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:44:08am |
re: #440 darthstar
It's the recovery that requires spending. The debt is a consequence of our actions to date.
sure...talk to lawhawk about that
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:44:12am |
Al Gore in line for honorary doctorate from UT
MARTIN, Tenn. - University of Tennessee Interim President Jan Simek this morning presented a proposal to trustees to award an honorary doctoral degree from UT Knoxville to former vice president and Nobel Peace Prize winner Al Gore.
The proposal was approved by the UT Board of Trustees Academic Affairs and Student Success Committee, but the proposal will go before the full board for final approval this afternoon. Trustees are on the UT Martin campus for their winter board meeting.
If approved, Gore, a native of Carthage, Tenn., will receive an honorary Doctor of Laws and Humane Letters at the UT Knoxville College of Arts and Sciences spring commencement ceremony on May 14. He also would be the featured speaker at the ceremony.
Entertainer and philanthropist Dolly Parton and former Sen. Howard H. Baker Jr. are the only other recipients of honorary degrees from UT Knoxville.
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darthstar Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:44:33am |
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:44:42am |
re: #433 oaktree
Given her previous encounters with dogs* I'd suspect that if she had her way she would get the door safeties removed, sharpen the doorways and sit with a paw on the "door close" button to see whether she could gullotine a few of the resident ones.
* - Patches came from a family that had another cat, a collie, and four shelties. The shelties herded her in a pack; e.g. whenever she left the safe room to eat or do something the dog pack would eventually appear and chase her back there. One reason I was willing to adopt her to act as the new roomie for the older cat whose picture I occasionally use as a avatar.
(And personally I don't think "Patches" is a good cat name. Beneath her dignity.)
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:45:21am |
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Donna Ballard Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:45:53am |
re: #433 oaktree
Given her previous encounters with dogs* I'd suspect that if she had her way she would get the door safeties removed, sharpen the doorways and sit with a paw on the "door close" button to see whether she could gullotine a few of the resident ones.
* - Patches came from a family that had another cat, a collie, and four shelties. The shelties herded her in a pack; e.g. whenever she left the safe room to eat or do something the dog pack would eventually appear and chase her back there. One reason I was willing to adopt her to act as the new roomie for the older cat whose picture I occasionally use as a avatar.
(And personally I don't think "Patches" is a good cat name. Beneath her dignity.)
Oh somehow with a loving owner like you I don't think she minds her name. We have a sweet but dim kitty by the name of Peanut, whom we call Peanut Butter that actually likes being called Peanut Butter better than Peanut. I say that because she responds better to her name with the addition of Butter to her original name. She's a tiny little kitty, only 5 lbs or so who stands up to our 12 lb Maine Coon just fine! Dim, but feisty!
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albusteve Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:46:09am |
re: #445 darthstar
That's so last administration.
explain how the feds can create private sector jobs by raising taxes and increasing the deficit
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cliffster Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:47:13am |
What an amazingly gorgeous day here in Austin. Sun is out, air is chill but nice. Sorry about all that snow, you NE suckers.
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Donna Ballard Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:47:20am |
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lawhawk Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:47:46am |
re: #445 darthstar
Right, because the current administration is using our great grandkids' credit cards. /
If you think that the spending of the prior administration was out of control, the current Administration is doubling down on it.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:49:17am |
re: #452 lawhawk
Right, because the current administration is using our great grandkids' credit cards. /
If you think that the spending of the prior administration was out of control, the current Administration is doubling down on it.
Except the current admin is spending money on things like roads and - maybe - health care, instead of blowing shit up.
Oh, wait...
I'm so confused.
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garhighway Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:50:09am |
re: #452 lawhawk
Right, because the current administration is using our great grandkids' credit cards. /
If you think that the spending of the prior administration was out of control, the current Administration is doubling down on it.
Do you detect any difference in context?
The running up of the deficit in 2000 - 2008 was, for the most part, optional.
The stimulus spending of 2009 was done to help avoid a depression. Do those things seem equivalent to you?
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darthstar Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:50:17am |
re: #449 albusteve
explain how the feds can create private sector jobs by raising taxes and increasing the deficit
Beats the shit out of me. But I never understood how spending more money while reducing tax revenue helped keep the deficit down in the last eight years...I mean, the debt went from like 16 trillion down to 12 trillion...right? Of course, it's back up to 12.4 trillion now.
Honestly, I don't know why you ask me for financial advice. I'm really not an expert, nor have I ever claimed to be one.
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cliffster Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:51:37am |
re: #452 lawhawk
Right, because the current administration is using our great grandkids' credit cards. /
If you think that the spending of the prior administration was out of control, the current Administration is doubling down on it.
Doubling down? Wait a few years.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:51:51am |
re: #20 Cato the Elder
Except the current admin is spending money on things like roads and - maybe - health care, instead of blowing shit up.
Oh, wait...
I'm so confused.
with munitions and plabes they bought from private sector companies that employed people!!
just sayin!
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sattv4u2 Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:52:15am |
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:52:50am |
re: #453 Cato the Elder
Except the current admin is spending money on things like roads and - maybe - health care, instead of blowing shit up.
Oh, wait...
I'm so confused.
They blew up the economy & employment. The previous administration blew up jihadists.
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Decatur Deb Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:53:39am |
I don't feel safe posting to the Orly T. Website, but she has a response to the John McCain primary ad (add). Approach w/ care, the site is supposedly full of evil bugs. TPM quotes the text, I think.
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Donna Ballard Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:53:41am |
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The Sanity Inspector Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:54:14am |
re: #427 SanFranciscoZionist
Ah yes, Cal Berkeley. A laughable school, with no real scholars attached to it, or research or education taking place.
//
Being the flagship school of the UC system costs a lot of money, and the state can't afford to be as big of a sugar daddy as formerly. What else could they do, except for a tuition hike?
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lawhawk Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:54:27am |
re: #454 garhighway
Optional? Recession and the 9/11 attacks brought about the 2001 and 2003 tax acts - to stave off a deeper recession and get the economy going again at the end of the .com bust, or is your history off because all you see as far as optional spending is the Iraq war?
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sattv4u2 Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:54:58am |
re: #28 Dragon_Lady
I liked it better spelled plabes... kinda made me put my own spin on it... I'm just sayin...
I need one of those keyboards where the letters are in alphabetical order
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garhighway Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:55:17am |
re: #459 NJDhockeyfan
They blew up the economy & employment. The previous administration blew up jihadists.
Quick refresher: economy blew up in 2008. BHO inaugurated in 2009.
In case you'd forgotten.
If you want a more detailed timeline, with the dates of TARP bailouts and the like, just say so.
But I have a hunch you know what dates attach to those as well.
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lawhawk Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:56:08am |
re: #460 Decatur Deb
ohh... the nutter doesn't like that McCain called out Haysworth on his trooferism? I'm shocked...
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darthstar Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:56:18am |
re: #459 NJDhockeyfan
They blew up the economy & employment. The previous administration blew up jihadists.
You do realize, of course that you're also a jihadist (not that it's a bad thing...I'm also a jihadist by default). Jihad simply means 'holy war'(actually, it means struggle, but Americans are much more inspired by the words "holy war")...so when you label the bad guy as a 'jihadist', you're engaging in the holy war against him...hence you're one too.
Ain't that wonderful?
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:56:37am |
CNN Poll: Majority says government a threat to citizens' rights
Washington (CNN) – A majority of Americans think the federal government poses a threat to rights of Americans, according to a new national poll.
Fifty-six percent of people questioned in a CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey released Friday say they think the federal government's become so large and powerful that it poses an immediate threat to the rights and freedoms of ordinary citizens. Forty-four percent of those polled disagree.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:57:21am |
re: #467 darthstar
You do realize, of course that you're also a jihadist (not that it's a bad thing...I'm also a jihadist by default). Jihad simply means 'holy war'(actually, it means struggle, but Americans are much more inspired by the words "holy war")...so when you label the bad guy as a 'jihadist', you're engaging in the holy war against him...hence you're one too.
Ain't that wonderful?
You getting your talking points from CAIR?
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Decatur Deb Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:57:31am |
re: #466 lawhawk
ohh... the nutter doesn't like that McCain called out Haysworth on his trooferism? I'm shocked...
The McCain ad used her as the poster child for birther nutcase.
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Donna Ballard Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:57:35am |
re: #464 sattv4u2
I need one of those keyboards where the letters are in alphabetical order
I wish they made the that way! Typing would be so much easier... My hunting and pecking would improve immensely! And my nose wouldn't be so sore...Ha!
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:57:47am |
re: #468 NJDhockeyfan
CNN Poll: Majority says government a threat to citizens' rights
The survey indicates a partisan divide on the question: only 37 percent of Democrats, 63 percent of Independents and nearly 7 in 10 Republicans say the federal government poses a threat to the rights of Americans.
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cliffster Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:58:10am |
re: #467 darthstar
You do realize, of course that you're also a jihadist (not that it's a bad thing...I'm also a jihadist by default). Jihad simply means 'holy war'(actually, it means struggle, but Americans are much more inspired by the words "holy war")...so when you label the bad guy as a 'jihadist', you're engaging in the holy war against him...hence you're one too.
Ain't that wonderful?
I hate people on here who say things just to push people's buttons. Oh wait...
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sattv4u2 Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:58:29am |
re: #465 garhighway
Quick refresher: economy blew up in 2008. BHO inaugurated in 2009.
In case you'd forgotten.
If you want a more detailed timeline, with the dates of TARP bailouts and the like, just say so.
But I have a hunch you know what dates attach to those as well.
QUICKER REFRESHER
(to stay as snotty)
TARP monies given to halt said recession, stabilize the economy AND are getting paid back WITH interest all started prior to January 2009
"Stimulus" spending ,, not so much!
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:58:31am |
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:58:48am |
re: #472 MandyManners
The survey indicates a partisan divide on the question: only 37 percent of Democrats, 63 percent of Independents and nearly 7 in 10 Republicans say the federal government poses a threat to the rights of Americans.
The Dems are losing the Independents. That's bad news for them.
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garhighway Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:58:55am |
re: #463 lawhawk
Optional? Recession and the 9/11 attacks brought about the 2001 and 2003 tax acts - to stave off a deeper recession and get the economy going again at the end of the .com bust, or is your history off because all you see as far as optional spending is the Iraq war?
Now we are getting somewhere: the tax cuts were in the 2000 platform. Blaming them on subsequent events is ex post facto bullshit.
Was the Iraq war optional? Of course it was. And cutting taxes in wartime? Unprecedented.
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albusteve Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:59:21am |
re: #450 cliffster
What an amazingly gorgeous day here in Austin. Sun is out, air is chill but nice. Sorry about all that snow, you NE suckers.
ABQ will be a balmy 50deg, with bright blue skies and clear, clean air....the Sandias are five miles away looming up over 10k feet with some snow up there....heh, I could go on and on amigo
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 26, 2010 9:01:20am |
re: #477 garhighway
Now we are getting somewhere: the tax cuts were in the 2000 platform. Blaming them on subsequent events is ex post facto bullshit.
Was the Iraq war optional? Of course it was. And cutting taxes in wartime? Unprecedented.
And I wish Obama would get the military out of Iraq, I wish he would close Gitmo, I wish he would stop renditions to other countries, I wish he would get the unemployment rate down... I wish he would keep his promises.
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Decatur Deb Fri, Feb 26, 2010 9:01:25am |
re: #478 albusteve
ABQ will be a balmy 50deg, with bright blue skies and clear, clean air...the Sandias are five miles away looming up over 10k feet with some snow up there...heh, I could go on and on amigo
Same wx here in Lower Alabama, but we call it "freakin' cold".
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The Sanity Inspector Fri, Feb 26, 2010 9:01:32am |
re: #467 darthstar
You do realize, of course that you're also a jihadist (not that it's a bad thing...I'm also a jihadist by default). Jihad simply means 'holy war'(actually, it means struggle, but Americans are much more inspired by the words "holy war")...so when you label the bad guy as a 'jihadist', you're engaging in the holy war against him...hence you're one too.
Ain't that wonderful?
Not quite. It doesn't take two for this tango. They could still wage jihad against us even if we just sat back and made ineffectual gestures in response. They could, and in the 90s, they did.
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cliffster Fri, Feb 26, 2010 9:01:45am |
re: #478 albusteve
ABQ will be a balmy 50deg, with bright blue skies and clear, clean air...the Sandias are five miles away looming up over 10k feet with some snow up there...heh, I could go on and on amigo
You said it. We'll be hating life come July, but right now it's good to be close to the equator
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darthstar Fri, Feb 26, 2010 9:01:58am |
re: #469 NJDhockeyfan
You getting your talking points from CAIR?
Nah...it's just that war requires two sides to play...
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 26, 2010 9:02:02am |
re: #478 albusteve
ABQ will be a balmy 50deg, with bright blue skies and clear, clean air...the Sandias are five miles away looming up over 10k feet with some snow up there...heh, I could go on and on amigo
We had 3 inches over night. NE isn't the only snow.
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The Sanity Inspector Fri, Feb 26, 2010 9:02:22am |
re: #478 albusteve
ABQ will be a balmy 50deg, with bright blue skies and clear, clean air...the Sandias are five miles away looming up over 10k feet with some snow up there...heh, I could go on and on amigo
Clear and low 40s here in Atlanta, no scenery of course.
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garhighway Fri, Feb 26, 2010 9:02:30am |
re: #474 sattv4u2
QUICKER REFRESHER
(to stay as snotty)
TARP monies given to halt said recession, stabilize the economy AND are getting paid back WITH interest all started prior to January 2009"Stimulus" spending ,, not so much!
So you are saying the stimulus spending caused the near-depression?
Really?
Understand, I have no quarrel with TARP. Paulson did what he had to do, and under extraordinary pressure. Did he pick the absolute most elegant solution? Probably not, as is reflected by the fact that he changed his own mind a couple of times about how best to apply TARP funds.
BUT, to claim that the economic meltdown we are all now experiencing is this administration's fault is complete and utter horseshit. It happened in 2008. Period.
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 26, 2010 9:02:31am |
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albusteve Fri, Feb 26, 2010 9:02:44am |
re: #467 darthstar
You do realize, of course that you're also a jihadist (not that it's a bad thing...I'm also a jihadist by default). Jihad simply means 'holy war'(actually, it means struggle, but Americans are much more inspired by the words "holy war")...so when you label the bad guy as a 'jihadist', you're engaging in the holy war against him...hence you're one too.
Ain't that wonderful?
hahaha!...playing with words does change reality...so we are all jihadis? so what?
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 26, 2010 9:02:51am |
Zogby Interactive: Americans Divided About What Ails Washington
UTICA, New York - As Democratic and Republican party leaders prepare to meet over healthcare reform in an attempt to strike some measure of bi-partisan consensus, a new Zogby Interactive survey finds little common ground among Americans in opinions toward Washington and the political process.
The Zogby Interactive survey of 2,068 adults nationwide offered three sets of contrasting statements about the actions, beliefs and behaviors of elected officials in Washington. The survey was conducted Feb. 17 through Feb. 19, 2010 and carries a margin of error of +/- 2.2 percentage points.
The survey found that nearly half (49%) are more likely to cite Congress "passing bad bills" as more of a problem than getting nothing done (37%.) By nearly the same margin, 48% believe politicians "fighting too much" is more problematic than their being "cozy to each other rather than stick to their principles" (39%). Lastly, 50% are more bothered by people in Washington "who think they are smarter than the rest of us" than they are by "partisan bickering" (41%).
| 490 |
lawhawk Fri, Feb 26, 2010 9:03:17am |
re: #453 Cato the Elder
Except the current admin is spending money on things like roads and - maybe - health care, instead of blowing shit up.
Oh, wait...
I'm so confused.
They're building stuff like roads? Out of the trillion dollar deficit that is being rung up as part of ARRA of 2009, how much has gone to roads and infrastruction - a pittance has been spent to date.
The $787 billion stimulus package signed into law last month includes $80.5 billion to fix roads, bridges, mass transit and waterways. President Barack Obama also put $72.5 billion for transportation spending in his budget proposal for 2010.
10% of the amount was roughly set aside for infrastructure, but much of the spending is backloaded for 2011 and 2012. A fraction of the $80.5 billion has been spent thus far. I don't have a problem with spending on infrastructure, but most of the ARRA of 2009 did not go to infrastructure.
And it's not like the Bush Administration didn't spend on infrastructure either.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Feb 26, 2010 9:04:02am |
re: #486 garhighway
So you are saying the stimulus spending caused the near-depression
Where did I say or even intimate that !?!?!?!?!
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Donna Ballard Fri, Feb 26, 2010 9:04:03am |
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darthstar Fri, Feb 26, 2010 9:04:32am |
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Obdicut Fri, Feb 26, 2010 9:04:42am |
re: #476 NJDhockeyfan
It's kind of a dumb question. The government is always a threat to our rights. It's always a protector of our rights as well.
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albusteve Fri, Feb 26, 2010 9:05:01am |
re: #462 The Sanity Inspector
Being the flagship school of the UC system costs a lot of money, and the state can't afford to be as big of a sugar daddy as formerly. What else could they do, except for a tuition hike?
those profs make damned good money and the perks and bennies are out of this world, not to mention million dollar presidents who do virtually nothing that some goof couldn't do to earn their pay...prestige is expensive these days
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cliffster Fri, Feb 26, 2010 9:05:22am |
re: #494 Obdicut
It's kind of a dumb question. The government is always a threat to our rights. It's always a protector of our rights as well.
How very libertarian of you.
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darthstar Fri, Feb 26, 2010 9:05:28am |
re: #488 albusteve
hahaha!...playing with words does change reality...so we are all jihadis? so what?
Well, there is one down-side...no booze. Oh, and take your eyes off of Mandy's tits. Also not allowed.
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 26, 2010 9:06:40am |
re: #490 lawhawk
10% of the amount was roughly set aside for infrastructure, but much of the spending is backloaded for 2011 and 2012. A fraction of the $80.5 billion has been spent thus far. I don't have a problem with spending on infrastructure, but most of the ARRA of 2009 did not go to infrastructure.
And it's not like the Bush Administration didn't spend on infrastructure either.
And most of these infrastructure projects have been on the books, contractors selected and employees already on site before any of the ARRA money came don the pike.
If you know ANYTHING about local politics, contractors, bidding and project, you know that in most places the same engineers and construction firms get the projects over and over.
This money for infrastructure didn't create much of anything new, but it sounds good.
| 499 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 26, 2010 9:06:43am |
House Leaders stop vote to ban degrading treatment
The House Democratic leadership stopped a vote Thursday night on the $50 billion classified intelligence budget after Republicans mounted a campaign against one of its provisions to ban degrading treatment of detainees and some moderate Democrats indicated they would not vote for the bill.The Republican lawmakers, led by Rep. Pete Hoekstra, Michigan Republican, opposed what they saw as backdoor legislation that would impose fines and prison terms on intelligence officers who abuse captured terrorism suspects.
A Democratic House aide told The Washington Times that the leadership supported the amendment and urged the House Rules Committee to place it in a slate of provisions to the bill known as a managers amendment.
Courtney Littig, a spokeswoman for the House intelligence committee said, "To my knowledge the first time we learned of the McDermott amendment was when we received copies of the amendments from the Rules Committee [Wednesday] afternoon." Rep. Jim McDermott, Washington Democrat, was the original author of the provision, known as the Cruel, Inhuman and Degrading Interrogation Prohibition Act of 2010.
The amendment would authorize federal sentences of up to life in prison for cruel interrogation if it led to a detainee's death or other penalties for lesser offenses.
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 26, 2010 9:07:40am |
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Obdicut Fri, Feb 26, 2010 9:07:43am |
re: #496 cliffster
I don't think it's particularly libertarian. The government protects our rights when it enforces contracts, catches criminals, et al. It violates our rights with stuff like asset seizure with no convictions in drug busts, et al.
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albusteve Fri, Feb 26, 2010 9:08:29am |
re: #484 Walter L. Newton
We had 3 inches over night. NE isn't the only snow.
you are 3000ft higher than me...I hope you get smothered in snow, and when it melts it runs right past my bunkhouse down here
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garhighway Fri, Feb 26, 2010 9:08:52am |
re: #491 sattv4u2
So you are saying the stimulus spending caused the near-depression
Where did I say or even intimate that !?!?!?!?!
I thought your juxtaposition of causes and timing of the near-depression and the stimulus spending implied cause-and-effect. If I misconstrued, I apologize.
Now where are you on the timing issues? You get that the near-depression was a 2008 event, right?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Feb 26, 2010 9:08:54am |
Don't know what the topic is. Don't care, either. I was away from my house for 2 days and here is what they got (burglars):
2004 John Deere Lawn Tractor
New Stereo
Kawasaki Jet Ski.
350 Chevy Engine
Tried to steal my little truck.
Truck battery.
What they left:
Air compressor, big fucker.
Dell Lap Top
$200 Wireless printer.
And they tried to rip the lighting out of the dining room. If I was home, this story would be different.
| 505 |
Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 26, 2010 9:09:13am |
re: #502 albusteve
you are 3000ft higher than me...I hope you get smothered in snow, and when it melts it runs right past my bunkhouse down here
All our water is MINE.
| 506 |
Obdicut Fri, Feb 26, 2010 9:09:49am |
re: #504 Cannadian Club Akbar
That fucking sucks, man. I'm really fucking sorry. I hope they fuck up and try to sell the shit too obviously, get caught, and you get it all back.
Fuckers.
| 507 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 26, 2010 9:10:11am |
Obama names labor leader to fiscal commission
President Obama announced today his appointees to a recently created bipartisan fiscal commission, including prominent labor leader and Democratic activist Andy Stern.
Stern, chairman of the Service Employees International Union, is one of the most powerful figures in the labor movement and has pushed aggressively for a number of Democratic causes, including healthcare reform.
Other appointees include Alice Rivlin, former vice chairman of the Federal Reserve, Ann Fudge, former CEO of Young and Rubicam Brands, and Dan Cote, CEO of Honewell. Obama had previously named former Sen. Alan Simpson (R-Wyo.) and Clinton official Erskine Bowles to co-chair the group, which wil make recommendations for reducing the nation's long-term debt.
The choice of Stern is already drawing fire from business groups.
The Workforce Fairness Institute, which has steadfastly opposed major labor legislation supported by SEIU, blasted the decision in a statement Friday morning.
“Either the White House doesn’t read the newspaper or simply doesn’t care, but naming Andy Stern as a member of the National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility doesn’t pass the laugh test,” said Katie Packer, the group's executive director.
| 508 |
cliffster Fri, Feb 26, 2010 9:10:38am |
re: #502 albusteve
you are 3000ft higher than me...I hope you get smothered in snow, and when it melts it runs right past my bunkhouse down here
You're forgetting about all that yellow snow around Walter's place.
| 509 |
darthstar Fri, Feb 26, 2010 9:10:43am |
re: #504 Cannadian Club Akbar
Don't know what the topic is. Don't care, either. I was away from my house for 2 days and here is what they got (burglars):
2004 John Deere Lawn Tractor
New Stereo
Kawasaki Jet Ski.
350 Chevy Engine
Tried to steal my little truck.
Truck battery.What they left:
Air compressor, big fucker.
Dell Lap Top
$200 Wireless printer.And they tried to rip the lighting out of the dining room. If I was home, this story would be different.
Shit, man...that sucks. Sorry. Insurance going to cover it? I hate thieves. They rank the lowest in my book.
| 510 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Feb 26, 2010 9:10:59am |
re: #504 Cannadian Club Akbar
Sorry to hear that.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Feb 26, 2010 9:11:10am |
re: #506 Obdicut
Me smarter than them. Trust me. I thank you.
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darthstar Fri, Feb 26, 2010 9:11:54am |
re: #505 Walter L. Newton
All our water is MINE.
We've got plenty of water here in Northern California as well...well, for the most part. Our southern brethren just steal their water from Arizona.
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The Sanity Inspector Fri, Feb 26, 2010 9:12:17am |
re: #504 Cannadian Club Akbar
{{CCA}} I hope the insurance treats you right. Did you have photos of everything, for proof? Fortunately for me, when I was burglarized, I had plenty of pictures, me being a photo hound.
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Donna Ballard Fri, Feb 26, 2010 9:12:29am |
re: #504 Cannadian Club Akbar
Don't know what the topic is. Don't care, either. I was away from my house for 2 days and here is what they got (burglars):
2004 John Deere Lawn Tractor
New Stereo
Kawasaki Jet Ski.
350 Chevy Engine
Tried to steal my little truck.
Truck battery.What they left:
Air compressor, big fucker.
Dell Lap Top
$200 Wireless printer.And they tried to rip the lighting out of the dining room. If I was home, this story would be different.
I'm so sorry you are having to go through that feeling of violation! My parents house was burglarized when I was in my early 20's and It still haunts me, the feeling of vulnerability and violation. You have my empathy.
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Decatur Deb Fri, Feb 26, 2010 9:14:29am |
re: #504 Cannadian Club Akbar
Don't know what the topic is. Don't care, either. I was away from my house for 2 days and here is what they got (burglars):
2004 John Deere Lawn Tractor
New Stereo
Kawasaki Jet Ski.
350 Chevy Engine
Tried to steal my little truck.
Truck battery.What they left:
Air compressor, big fucker.
Dell Lap Top
$200 Wireless printer.And they tried to rip the lighting out of the dining room. If I was home, this story would be different.
They sound sophisticated (leaving the laptop). At least your heirs aren't making the list. Are the local cops of use?
| 518 |
sattv4u2 Fri, Feb 26, 2010 9:14:30am |
re: #503 garhighway
You get that the near-depression was a 2008 event, right?
duuhh ,,, huh !?!?!wha!?!? can you please stop using such big words!!
Ggeeezz ,, if you want to have a discussion, lose the condescending tonality
Yes ,, the "near depression" (cute phrase, btw ,,is that like kind of pregnant!?!?) was a culmination of many things, gears in motion as far back as 9/11 (which, btw, was Bin Ladens real goal,,, the 3,000 deaths was icing on the cake).
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 9:14:55am |
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 9:15:50am |
re: #504 Cannadian Club Akbar
Didn't your neighbors notice them taking the John Deere?
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 9:16:18am |
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albusteve Fri, Feb 26, 2010 9:17:33am |
re: #512 darthstar
We've got plenty of water here in Northern California as well...well, for the most part. Our southern brethren just steal their water from Arizona.
stupid CA...they should be world leaders in desalination...but they are scared to death of nuclear power
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garhighway Fri, Feb 26, 2010 9:18:44am |
re: #518 sattv4u2
Yes ,, the "near depression" (cute phrase, btw ,,is that like kind of pregnant!?!?) was a culmination of many things, gears in motion as far back as 9/11 (which, btw, was Bin Ladens real goal,,, the 3,000 deaths was icing on the cake).
If "near-depression" doesn't work for you, feel free to substitute "severe recession". I like "near-depression" because it conveys the fact that but for the intervention by Bernanke and Paulson, it probably would have been a depression. It was a near miss.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 26, 2010 9:19:42am |
re: #504 Cannadian Club Akbar
There is no other feeling like the feeling you get when you get robbed. I didn't understand what the term 'violated' meant until I was robbed. I hope they catch the bastards who took your stuff.
| 526 |
Randall Gross Fri, Feb 26, 2010 9:20:58am |
re: #388 The Sanity Inspector
If you must link to Lebanon Daily Star please use the cache option from Google, it used to flag regularly as an "attack site" in my various virus and phish guard software. Right now it seems ok but it's got a long history...
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sattv4u2 Fri, Feb 26, 2010 9:22:39am |
re: #524 garhighway
If "near-depression" doesn't work for you, feel free to substitute "severe recession". I like "near-depression" because it conveys the fact that but for the intervention by Bernanke and Paulson, it probably would have been a depression. It was a near miss.
That it was, and as stated TARP staved it off (imho)
I think, as Rahm stated, the Stimulus is just a (paraphrrasing) "chance to do things you normally wouldn't get to do"
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The Sanity Inspector Fri, Feb 26, 2010 9:23:39am |
re: #526 Thanos
If you must link to Lebanon Daily Star please use the cache option from Google, it used to flag regularly as an "attack site" in my various virus and phish guard software. Right now it seems ok but it's got a long history...
Will do.
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 26, 2010 9:24:14am |
re: #528 sattv4u2
That it was, and as stated TARP staved it off (imho)
I think, as Rahm stated, the Stimulus is just a (paraphrrasing) "chance to do things you normally wouldn't get to do"
Crisis!!!
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Why Did More Than 1,000 People Die After Police Subdued Them With Force That Isn’t Meant to Kill? An investigation led by The Associated Press has found that, over a decade, more than 1,000 people died after police subdued them through physical holds, stun guns, body blows and other force not intended to be lethal. More: Why ... Cheechako
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Views: 517 • Comments: 1 • Rating: 5- A Closer Look at the Eastman State Bar DecisionTaking a few minutes away from work things to read through the Eastman decision. As I'm sure many of you know, Eastman was my law school con law professor. I knew him pretty well because I was also running in ...KGxvi
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Abortions Outside Medical System Increased Sharply After Roe Fell, Study Finds The number of women using abortion pills to end their pregnancies on their own without the direct involvement of a U.S.-based medical provider rose sharply in the months after the Supreme Court eliminated a constitutional right to abortion, according ... Cheechako
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Once Praised, the Settlement to Help Sickened BP Oil Spill Workers Leaves Most With Nearly Nothing When a deadly explosion destroyed BP’s Deepwater Horizon drilling rig in the Gulf of Mexico, 134 million gallons of crude erupted into the sea over the next three months — and tens of thousands of ordinary people were hired ... Cheechako
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Texas County at Center of Border Fight Is Overwhelmed by Migrant Deaths EAGLE PASS, Tex. - The undertaker lighted a cigarette and held it between his latex-gloved fingers as he stood over the bloated body bag lying in the bed of his battered pickup truck. The woman had been fished out ... Cheechako
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